Using YARD to create boot floppies?

1998-07-05 Thread Gary L . Hennigan

I'm trying to use YARD to create a boot/root floppy pair for
emergencies. The trouble is that I can't seem to get them to work and
I believe I'm missing something. The boot floppy works fine and
prompts me to insert the root floppy. That goes fine, i.e., it gets to
the login prompt. But at that point I'm stuck. The login root, and
any login I try, yields the following message:

login[12]: invalid password for `UNKNOWN' on tty1

Where is the UNKNOWN coming from?

I've checked and double checked to /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files
before the root floppy is created and everything looks fine. I've also 
copied /etc/login.defs and modified the CONSOLE line to look like

CONSOLEconsole:tty1:tty2:tty3:tty4

with no success.

I suspect I'm missing some library necessary for /bin/login, or I'm
missing some security file somewhere.

Anyone have any ideas? Anyone ever used YARD before on a Debian
system? It wasn't packaged so I installed it from source.

Specifics: Debian 2.0 beta (everything is the latest available from
the frozen distribution).

Gary


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Bo pppd not support IPX?

1998-07-05 Thread Tim Thomson
Hi,

I've being trying to get a Win95 machine to dialin with a IPX connecting,
but adding the settings for IPX as per the man page, causes pppd to fail,
saying that the ipx settings are invalid.

I take it this means the pppd isn't compiled with IPX support, as ipx is
enables in the kernel.

Why not? Is it enabled in the hamm one?
I don't want to upgrade to hamm on this system yet, so I'll need to
download another pppd, where from?

Thanks,

Tim.

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Re: scsi drive recognition problems

1998-07-05 Thread Greg Norris
I've seen reports on the aic7xxx and linux-kernel mailing lists about
device-negotiation error under the more recent versions of the driver.
Many of them sounded quite similar to what you've described.  You might
try creating a custom install-disk, using an older version of the driver...
you can find them at ftp://ftp.dialnet.net/pub/linux/aic7xxx/OLD/.

 I've been having problems when (re)installing the Debian distribution using
 the 2.0.8_1998-06-23 *14* installation disk images.
 
 On two different systems, with two different Adaptec controllers (AHA-2940AU
 and AHA-7880), I have had major problems getting the rescue disk to recognize
 my second scsi drive.
 
 I have not had this problem (at all) with the 2.0.6_1998-05-12 distribution
 disks.
 
 At times, I have had to revert to using the 2.0.6_1998-05-12 set, rather than
 use the newer 2.0.8 set (it's only been recently - and even then, with 
 difficulty [I get timeout errors, if the second drive is recognized at all]) 
 to get both disks to be 'seen' by the installation media.
 
 I am using one IBM DCAS-34330W, and one IBM DCAS-34330 (drives a and b in that
 order).
 
 I don't know what the problem is, other than maybe a 'newer and better' 
 aic7xxx driver being used.  There are no errors generated when the second
 drive isn't found; only when it is, and then (sometimes) timeout errors.


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Re: Gnome gmc where?

1998-07-05 Thread Kevin Atkinson
Edward Betts wrote:
 
 On Fri, 03 Jul, 1998, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
  Hi there.  After a wonderful discussion in debian-devel :) I decided to
  try out gnome.  However I can't seam to find the gmc package in the
  incoming or slink directory?
 
  Does the package exist get?  And if so where
 
 no, it does not, Jim Pick, thought he would leave it to the maintainer of
 midnight commander to package, but on the last changelog of mc it said the
 maintainer felt gmc to be too experimental to included. It is not a part of
 debian :-(

Ok, thanks.
 
 get it and compile it yourself.

I might do that.


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xfstt final setup questions.

1998-07-05 Thread Christopher Barry
Hello everyone,

I found a nice large thread in the June archives that talks about xfstt
a good bit, it begins with

  http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9806/msg00176.html

I installed xfstt and copied over all the *.ttf fonts from the
windows/fonts directory on the win95 partition to /var/ttfonts/winfonts
and added the

FontPath   unix/:7100

entry to /etc/X11/XF86Config and when I first tried starting x it failed
and spewed a ton of errors so I switched to a new virtual console and
typed xfstt and then switched back and tried startx again and this time
it worked, and I am able to select ttf fonts in Netscape now and WOW!!!
what a difference, it's really nice. I'm assuming the problem lies with
init.d but the above thread seemed to suggest that the latest xfstt
installs the proper init.d for you so once you copy over the ttf fonts
and add the FontPath line to XF86Config you are set to go, but I'm not
there yet as I must manually start xfstt in another console. So what do
I need to do?

Thank you everyone,
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cannot get smail to install

1998-07-05 Thread Keith Alen Vance
I am trying to install and setup smail with a debian package but it will 
not install. I think I tried this a month or so ago and it did not work. 
I think it partially had gotten installed but not configured. When I try 
and install the package it tries to remove the last attempt I made at 
installing smail, but it fails everytime. Is there a way to force the 
debian package to install regardless of what it thinks I have tried to do 
in the past?

Thanks,
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modem problems

1998-07-05 Thread Micha Feigin
I tried to connect a 33600 modem to my system.
This is a deferent computer then the one the hardisk usually runs on
if that changes anything (on the regular computer there is a 14400
modem which works fine)
I tried to set up using pppconfig.
when i start pon i get a response (in plog)
pppd 2.3.3 started by root uid0
tcetattr invalid argument

It sends a connect string to the modem but gets no responce.
I tried every com port in case i got the port mistaken.
I know the modem works because it runs fine one win95 that i've got
installed on this computer.

I've also got another problem with setup on the running modem.
How do i enable pon to be run users other then root?
It works fine when i run it as root, but when i run it as another user
it just gets stuck


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how to write configuration file from fvwmconf

1998-07-05 Thread Micha Feigin
i tried to use fvwmconf to set up my fvwm2 window manager.
when i start it it reads the setup i made just fine and it also keeps
it when i exit fvwmconf, but i can't get it to use the configuration
on startup. when i comp the file it writes out to ~/.fvwm2rc the
system gets stuck after startup.


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a user list too big, a suggestion

1998-07-05 Thread Alexander Gutfraind
Hello fellow users.
The debian user lists are the most important source of
information for debian users,
especially in detailed problems. I believe we all agree to
that.
However the lists have grown too large. I receive about 80
MSG's per day from
the lists and I can't filter myself all those MSG's.
Wouldn't it be better if would split the lists to, for
example:
1) Software
2) Hardware
3) Debian  Linux discussion?

Hope to hear your oppinion. better organized lists will help
us all get what we need:
Answers to hardware problems/Answers to Software
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win95/NT vrs. Linux For profetional program development

1998-07-05 Thread Micha Feigin
we're now using a win 95 system in order to develop a comercial system
(software and hardware)
I am considering to try to move the system to a unix/linux base
instead. So i was wondering what are the pro's and cons of such a
switch.
That includes: How dificult is it for a programer to make the switch
to programing for X instead of win95.
Also what software is there to develop programs (Compiler
environments) and to develop man/machine interface.
I'm looking for a c/c++ based system. There is no problem with
purchasing commercial programs if they exist.
I'm looking for something of the sort of Visual c++.
any information is welcome.
Thanx


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Re: win95/NT vrs. Linux For profetional program development

1998-07-05 Thread aqy6633
 That includes: How dificult is it for a programer to make the switch
 to programing for X instead of win95.

Well, programming for X is much more verstile then Win programming.
The thing is that you have a choice in a GUI Toolkit.
The oldest and most popular is Motif. It is not free and available from
several vendors for ~$100 (e.g. http://www.metrolink.com)
There is also a free Motif clone which is not quite ready for a prime time
(http://www.lesstif.org)

There are also several newer toolkits - Qt (which also has a Win port),
GTK+, XForms, etc.

And of course, there is Java (tm).

 Also what software is there to develop programs (Compiler
 environments) and to develop man/machine interface.
 I'm looking for a c/c++ based system. There is no problem with
 purchasing commercial programs if they exist.

c/c++ compilers are free and good. (gcc/egcs)

 I'm looking for something of the sort of Visual c++.

I remeber that I heard of several GUI builders for Linux, both free and 
commercial, but I don't use them so can't be precise here.

For an example of the GUI in X/Motif anf GTK+, you may visit the page
of WXftp, the application I wrote, at http://www.wxftp.seul.org

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debian 2 binary-386.raw cd image file

1998-07-05 Thread Mike Murphy
I was downloading the CD image and got 99% done (628 mb) and it disappeared
from the debian.org/debian ftp site.  Does anyone know where it might be?

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From:   Alex Yukhimets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex
Yukhimets
Sent:   Saturday, July 04, 1998 10:06 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Re: win95/NT vrs. Linux For profetional program development

 That includes: How dificult is it for a programer to make the switch
 to programing for X instead of win95.

Well, programming for X is much more verstile then Win programming.
The thing is that you have a choice in a GUI Toolkit.
The oldest and most popular is Motif. It is not free and available from
several vendors for ~$100 (e.g. http://www.metrolink.com)
There is also a free Motif clone which is not quite ready for a prime time
(http://www.lesstif.org)

There are also several newer toolkits - Qt (which also has a Win port),
GTK+, XForms, etc.

And of course, there is Java (tm).

 Also what software is there to develop programs (Compiler
 environments) and to develop man/machine interface.
 I'm looking for a c/c++ based system. There is no problem with
 purchasing commercial programs if they exist.

c/c++ compilers are free and good. (gcc/egcs)

 I'm looking for something of the sort of Visual c++.

I remeber that I heard of several GUI builders for Linux, both free and
commercial, but I don't use them so can't be precise here.

For an example of the GUI in X/Motif anf GTK+, you may visit the page
of WXftp, the application I wrote, at http://www.wxftp.seul.org

Alex Y.
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Re: cannot get smail to install

1998-07-05 Thread Eric
Well, the dpkg manpage says to use dpkg --force-conflicts -i
filename.deb in order to install and ignore all conflicts (such as
overwriting the files from the partial installation).  Or, to force
removal, use dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r packagename (you could
also replace -r with --purge.)

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On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Keith Alen Vance wrote:

 I am trying to install and setup smail with a debian package but it will 
 not install. I think I tried this a month or so ago and it did not work. 
 I think it partially had gotten installed but not configured. When I try 
 and install the package it tries to remove the last attempt I made at 
 installing smail, but it fails everytime. Is there a way to force the 
 debian package to install regardless of what it thinks I have tried to do 
 in the past?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: modem problems

1998-07-05 Thread Eric
1) Is the modem plug and play, and if so, are you using isapnp?
2) What version of Debian are you using?

If you are using hamm you should be able to allow normal users to use
dial-up services by adding them to group dip.  This probably holds true in
bo also, but I'm not sure (I had to change some permissions in the version
of bo that I had, but that was a long time ago).

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On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Micha Feigin wrote:

 I tried to connect a 33600 modem to my system.
 This is a deferent computer then the one the hardisk usually runs on
 if that changes anything (on the regular computer there is a 14400
 modem which works fine)
 I tried to set up using pppconfig.
 when i start pon i get a response (in plog)
 pppd 2.3.3 started by root uid0
 tcetattr invalid argument
 
 It sends a connect string to the modem but gets no responce.
 I tried every com port in case i got the port mistaken.
 I know the modem works because it runs fine one win95 that i've got
 installed on this computer.
 
 I've also got another problem with setup on the running modem.
 How do i enable pon to be run users other then root?
 It works fine when i run it as root, but when i run it as another user
 it just gets stuck


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Re: a user list too big, a suggestion

1998-07-05 Thread Eric
I'd really like to be able to get the list in digest format.

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On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Alexander Gutfraind wrote:

 Hello fellow users.
 The debian user lists are the most important source of
 information for debian users,
 especially in detailed problems. I believe we all agree to
 that.
 However the lists have grown too large. I receive about 80
 MSG's per day from
 the lists and I can't filter myself all those MSG's.
 Wouldn't it be better if would split the lists to, for
 example:
 1) Software
 2) Hardware
 3) Debian  Linux discussion?
 
 Hope to hear your oppinion. better organized lists will help
 us all get what we need:
 Answers to hardware problems/Answers to Software
 problems/discussions and opinions.


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Re: a user list too big, a suggestion

1998-07-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jul 04, 1998 at 09:33:33PM -0400, Alexander Gutfraind wrote:
 Hello fellow users.
 The debian user lists are the most important source of
 information for debian users,
 especially in detailed problems. I believe we all agree to
 that.
 However the lists have grown too large. I receive about 80
 MSG's per day from
 the lists and I can't filter myself all those MSG's.
 Wouldn't it be better if would split the lists to, for
 example:
 1) Software
 2) Hardware
 3) Debian  Linux discussion?

It is much easier to read if you have a threaded mail reader
eg mutt, gnus. You can delete whole threads with one keystroke after
you discover you don't want to read it in mutt (Control-D).
I have no trouble keeping up with debian-user, debian-devel,
policy, mentors, etc with this.



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Re: Bo pppd not support IPX?

1998-07-05 Thread peloy
Tim Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've being trying to get a Win95 machine to dialin with a IPX connecting,
 but adding the settings for IPX as per the man page, causes pppd to fail,
 saying that the ipx settings are invalid.
 
 I take it this means the pppd isn't compiled with IPX support, as ipx is
 enables in the kernel.

Probably pppd in the Bo ppp package is not compiled with IPX support.
At least, the Bo ppp packages I used were crippled in terms of IPX,
but I don't know if a Bo update of package ppp solved this problem.

 Why not? Is it enabled in the hamm one?
 I don't want to upgrade to hamm on this system yet, so I'll need to
 download another pppd, where from?

The ppp package in Hamm has IPX support and in fact I am using it
(works perfectly).

If you want to stick to Bo you can always grab the source package for
ppp and compiled it yourself, enabling IPX support.

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Leafnode segfaulting in texpire fetch

1998-07-05 Thread Mike Orr
Texpire started segfaulting on me a couple days ago, right
at the very beginning of the program.  Today, fetch also started
segfaulting.  It's working now, but I just wanted to let people know in
case it happens to anyone else.

Purging and reinstalling leafnode (1.4-10) did not help, but deleting
/var/spool/news (230MB) and reinstalling fixed it.  I suspect one of the
configuration files got corrupted, but I'm not sure.  (I'll have to
re-download all the news, but a lot of it was supposed to have expired
anyway.)

The strace from both programs looks similar:

TEXPIRE:
execve(/usr/sbin/texpire, [texpire], [/* 38 vars */]) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x805298c
open(/etc/ld.so.preload, O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=10882, ...}) = 0
[2899 lines deleted]
open(/var/lib/leafnode/groupinfo, O_RDONLY) = 3
stat(/var/lib/leafnode/groupinfo, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=7168, ...}) 
= 0
brk(0x8056000)  = 0x8056000
open(/var/lib/leafnode/groupinfo, O_RDONLY) = 4
read(4, Very 0 1 1 -x-\nalabama 18 17 26..., 7168) = 7168
close(4)= 0
brk(0x8057000)  = 0x8057000
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

FETCH:
execve(/usr/sbin/fetch, [fetch], [/* 46 vars */]) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x8054c7c
open(/etc/ld.so.preload, O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[193 lines deleted]
lseek(7, 0, SEEK_CUR)   = 0
getdents(7, /* 2 entries */, 3933)  = 28
stat(., {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
stat(.., {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0775, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
lseek(7, 0, SEEK_CUR)   = 1024
getdents(7, /* 0 entries */, 3933)  = 0
close(7)= 0
open(/var/lib/leafnode/groupinfo, O_RDONLY) = 7
stat(/var/lib/leafnode/groupinfo, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=7168, ...}) 
= 0
open(/var/lib/leafnode/groupinfo, O_RDONLY) = 8
read(8, Very 0 1 1 -x-\nalabama 18 17 26..., 7168) = 7168
close(8)= 0
brk(0x805b000)  = 0x805b000
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

I wondered if the /var/lib/leafnode/groupinfo file could be the culprit,
but I don't have it anymore.  I pulled a copy from yesterday morning's
backup and fed it to leafnode, but no segfault.  

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Re: SOLUTION? how to hold mail in another machine temporarily

1998-07-05 Thread Pete Harlan
 is the next most preferred contact.  Host B knows that it is not the
 final destination (because of the MX record for host A) so it queues the
 mail in /var/spool/mqueue (if it's a linux box).  Host B will attempt to
 deliver that mail for as long as the timeout period allows.

That's correct.  I just thought I'd add that you don't want to list
host A in your sendmail.cw file (the list of domains for whom you want
to accept mail).  Since you said you have to put aliases on host B, it
made me wonder if you were doing that.  You don't want sendmail to
accept the mail, per se, you just want it to relay it [eventually] to
A.

(Note also that the MX record for B should have a higher number
(corresponding to a lower priority) than the MX record for A.)

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Re: Stopping and restarting mgetty.

1998-07-05 Thread Damon Muller
Greets,

 I have the following line in /etc/inittab:
 
   S1:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS1
 
 How can I stop it whenever I need to, do something (like changing some 
 parameter) and restart it again ?

Try 

'kill -HUP' init

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Question about debian sources

1998-07-05 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

I have a bo source CD. From time to time I use some files from there.
The problem is that it's still not completly clear to me how to apply
the patches. For the moment I do like this:

1. Unpack the .tar.gz in a directory.
2. Copy in that directory the xxx.diff file.
3. Pacth the files with patch -p1  xxx.dif

Is this the right way to do the things ? In the .diff files were some
lines that make me think some directory names should be changed, but,
after the change, no directory name is changed. What am I missing here ?

TIA,

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Re: Where is lapack-dev ?

1998-07-05 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Drake Diedrich wrote:
 
Lapack++ hasn't been packaged yet, but would be welcome.  The successor,
 NTL, might be a better time investment.  http://math.nist.gov/tnt/

After some strugle, I've managed to compile Lapack++. The tests included
in the distribution (the netlib one) said it's OK. I have also made the
shared libs. As this is my first attept to make a shared lib, please
tell me if the commnads are OK. Here are some lines from one of the
makefile:

$(BLASPP_LIB) : $(BLASPP_OBJS)
rm -f $(BLASPP_LIB).a $(BLASPP_LIB).so
ar cr $(BLASPP_LIB).a $(BLASPP_OBJS)
case x$(HASRANLIB) in xt ) echo ranlib; ranlib $(BLASPP_LIB).a
;; esac
g++ -shared -Wall -o $(BLASPP_LIB).so $(BLASPP_OBJS)

The last line is added by me. After the changes, the libs compiled
without any problem, but I want to be sure I didn't forget something.
The variables, for completness, are:

BLASS_LIB=libblas++
BLASPP_OBJS =  blas1++.o blas2++.o blas3++.o

If you are interested, I can send a diff file, if you explain me how to
make it :). The changes are quite many I think: I've changed by hand
the name of all the LAPACK and BLASS functions and removed all the
references to generic.h, a file which doesn't exist on my system. Do
you know what's this header about ? Nevertheless, as I've said, after
the changes the libs compiled OK. The examples still give some compile
warnings (I didn't change them to use shared libs). Those that are using
shared libs compiled without warnings and run OK.

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Re: Driver bug? 56k USR doesn't transmit properly?

1998-07-05 Thread kaynjay
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/04/98 
   at 07:24 PM, kenneth scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  Just a guess.  Make sure that you have specified a connection speed of
115200 (between computer and modem).  Of course you must have '550 uarts in
the serial port.

Thanks.  Have done that.  It's an internal, too, so has a '550A.  Seems to
be properly detected, etc, etc by setserial.  Have tried defining with both
115200 and the default 38400 with spd_vhi set by setserial.  I can't find
anything strange in the minicom setup strings, ppp.chatscript, options, or
other files laid out in serial or ppp docs.

Is there anything I should look for in the serial part of the kernal setup? 
Can such be addressed (for the moment) with setserial?

Kenward
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Re: Driver bug? 56k USR doesn't transmit properly?

1998-07-05 Thread kaynjay
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/04/98 
   at 07:24 PM, kenneth scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  Just a guess.  Make sure that you have specified a connection speed of
115200 (between computer and modem).  Of course you must have '550 uarts in
the serial port.

Thanks.  Have done that.  It's an internal, too, so has a '550A.  Seems to
be properly detected, etc, etc by setserial.  Have tried defining with both
115200 and the default 38400 with spd_vhi set by setserial.  I can't find
anything strange in the minicom setup strings, ppp.chatscript, options, or
other files laid out in serial or ppp docs.

Is there anything I should look for in the serial part of the kernal setup? 
Can such be addressed (for the moment) with setserial?

Kenward
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Re: Driver bug? 56k USR doesn't transmit properly?

1998-07-05 Thread kaynjay
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
07/05/98 
   at 09:26 AM, Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Hi,

You most likely have a bug in your chatscript.  Would you like me to vet it
for you?

Sure.  Thanks.  I've packed it up from OS/2 with Infozip's zip.  I presume
you mean ppp.chatscript?  Included other ones obvious from the names, and 2
plog's.  Log1 involves the low speed connection.  Log2 is what I get with
the x2 number.  FWIW ...

The file names come from an intermediary FAT drive ...  ;-)  I don't have
OS/2's etx2fs IFS installed.  Yet. Two files have 40 bytes of OS/2 EA's
attached to them for some unknown reason.

Kenward

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Re: Lapack question

1998-07-05 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:03:59 + Ionut Borcoman at debian writes:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use the cfortran header file from this location
 ftp://zebra.desy.de/cfortan
 to build prototypes for BLAS and Lapack functions.
 I've finally understood how to make the headers. Now I can make them by
 myself.
 
I A more general question: is there a way to find out what
I functions are in a lib and what argumenst do they need ?
 
 bash$ nm {libfilename}
 
 Any whay to find out the arguments the functions from a lib require ?
 The nm seems to output just the names of the functions.

In C++ libraries the argument types are encoded in the functions name.
In a normal library there is not way to get this information (This
is one of the reason header files are really neccessary).

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Re: slrnpull + trn?

1998-07-05 Thread Johann Spies
On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Trevor Barrie wrote:

 On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Johann Spies wrote:
 
  I use slrn --spool.  I can't remember the details, but I know at first I
  had a lot of trouble to get it to work.  If I remember correctly, I, as
  root, deleted the /var/news/ directory because of trouble getting the
  correct permissions.  Thereafter the slrnpull created the directory with
  the correct permissions.
 
 Could you summarize what the correct permissions are? I'd rather not
 have to redownload what I've got now if I can help it.

In /var/spool:

drwxr-sr-x   5 news news 1024 Jun 11 20:49 slrnpull/

In /var/spool/slrnpull

drwxr-sr-x   5 news news 1024 Jun 11 20:49 ./
drwxrwSr-x  14 root root 1024 Jun 29 15:30 ../
drwxr-xr-x   2 news news 1024 Jul  4 23:29 data/
-rw-r--r--   1 root news   157899 Jul  4 23:29 log
drwxr-sr-x   3 root news 1024 Jun 24 21:48 news/
drwxrwxrwx   3 news news 1024 Jan 24 09:14 out.going/
-rw-r--r--   1 root news 1390 May 29 22:54 slrnpull.conf


Hope this helps.

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Using 2.1.108 kernel

1998-07-05 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Hello all:

Yesterday I tried to get the 2.1.108 kernel up and running.
I did get it running however I hand one problem, may ethernet
card (3Com 3C905 vortex) stopped. I am currently running
Debian's latest released kernel 2.0.34 and all is find. 

With the 2.1.108 kernel, ifconfig reports the NIC is up and running.
Additionally I can ping the network interface from the machine that
is running the 108 kernel, but I can't access anything on the
network. One note, the kernel seems to add a route and
the /etc/init.d/network file adds a route for that network interface.

Any ideas or thought on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Peter


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Re: [I98turboRI@aol.com: Newbie permissions question.]

1998-07-05 Thread Jack Kern
On Sat, Jul 04, 1998 at 02:53:45AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All you should have to do is add yourself to group dip.  Login as root (or
 su) and use 'usermod -G dip username'.  That should do it, you can check
 what groups you are in by logging in as yourself and typing 'groups'.  As
 for the permissions, type 'man chmod' to read all about them.

CAUTION:
'usermod -G dip username' appears to have the probably unwanted result
of removing username from all the other groups -- it did so when I
tried it.

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working minicom - gets stuck on initielizing modem

1998-07-05 Thread Micha Feigin
I tried to set up minicom. But as a start it would only start up as
root and then tell me that i shouldn't run it as root.
Then it gets stuck on the line initielizing modem.
The same modem works when i start it from win95
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Re: working minicom - gets stuck on initielizing modem

1998-07-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Jul 05, 1998 at 04:45:44AM -0700, Micha Feigin wrote:
 I tried to set up minicom. But as a start it would only start up as
 root and then tell me that i shouldn't run it as root.
 Then it gets stuck on the line initielizing modem.
 The same modem works when i start it from win95

crw-rw   1 root dialout4,  64 Jul  5 04:18 /dev/ttyS0
crw-r-   1 root dialout4,  65 Jul  5 12:05 /dev/ttyS1
crw-rw   1 root dialout4,  66 May 28  1997 /dev/ttyS2
crw-rw   1 root dialout4,  67 May 28  1997 /dev/ttyS3

pppd has this NASTY tendancy to screw up the permissions on the modem.  It
changes them to 640 and often forgets to put it back.  poff should fix this
IMO but it doesn't at this time.

That'll fix the must be root to run it problem.  Why it doesn't initialize I
don't know.


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Eithernet Cards on bo

1998-07-05 Thread ssnow
Hi

Currently I have a 386 running Debian 1.3.1 (BO) and it is running the
2.0.29 kernel. I was wanting to use a EtherLink III from 3 com, it is a
3c509b.k It has both BNC and AUI on it. It also has no jumpers. It is an
ISA card. I  was just wonderijng if there is a way to get that working on
teh 386 i have. Or if i can't get that working I would like to use a 3com
NW1000-TP I don't know what 3c* it is but it is from 3Com. It has jumper
settings on it i disabled the nemory and the i/o baes on it is 300.


Please help me out


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RE: Eithernet Cards on bo

1998-07-05 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Hello:

To the best of my knowledge there is no reason why the
3C509 card would not work. You will probably have to
do a kernel rebuild. I suggest you down load the 2.0.34
sources however.

Peter




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Sent: July 5, 1998 8:15 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Eithernet Cards on bo


Hi

Currently I have a 386 running Debian 1.3.1 (BO) and it is running the
2.0.29 kernel. I was wanting to use a EtherLink III from 3 com, it is a
3c509b.k It has both BNC and AUI on it. It also has no jumpers. It is an
ISA card. I  was just wonderijng if there is a way to get that working on
teh 386 i have. Or if i can't get that working I would like to use a 3com
NW1000-TP I don't know what 3c* it is but it is from 3Com. It has jumper
settings on it i disabled the nemory and the i/o baes on it is 300.


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Re: a user list too big, a suggestion

1998-07-05 Thread fantomas
- The debian user lists are the most important source of
- information for debian users,
- especially in detailed problems. I believe we all agree to
- that.
- However the lists have grown too large. I receive about 80
- MSG's per day from
- the lists and I can't filter myself all those MSG's.
- Wouldn't it be better if would split the lists to, for
- example:
- 1) Software
- 2) Hardware
- 3) Debian  Linux discussion?
- 
- Hope to hear your oppinion. better organized lists will help
- us all get what we need:
- Answers to hardware problems/Answers to Software
- problems/discussions and opinions.

hmmm what about usenet newqsgroup ? comp.os.linux.debian would be nice (note
that linux.* hierarchy is outdated)

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Re: a user list too big, a suggestion

1998-07-05 Thread fantomas
- The debian user lists are the most important source of
- information for debian users,
- especially in detailed problems. I believe we all agree to
- that.
- However the lists have grown too large. I receive about 80
- MSG's per day from
- the lists and I can't filter myself all those MSG's.
- Wouldn't it be better if would split the lists to, for
- example:
- 1) Software
- 2) Hardware
- 3) Debian  Linux discussion?
- 
- Hope to hear your oppinion. better organized lists will help
- us all get what we need:
- Answers to hardware problems/Answers to Software
- problems/discussions and opinions.

hmmm what about usenet newqsgroup ? comp.os.linux.debian would be nice (note
that linux.* hierarchy is outdated)

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Re: xcontrib problem

1998-07-05 Thread Ed Cogburn
David Flethcer wrote:
 
 On Fri, 03 Jul 1998, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
 I just ran apt-get to upgrade fully upgrade to hamm and everthing worked
 fine except
 that I got this on xcontrib:
 
 Setting up xcontrib (3.3.1-2) ...
 chown: /usr/X11R6/bin/xload: No such file or directory
 dpkg: error processing xcontrib (--install):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  xcontrib
 
 Is this a bug? Or is something set up wrong?
 
 If you want more info on my system just ask/
 
 Thanks, Kevin.
 
 I get the same problem.  I eagerly wait the responses to this.
 
 David  (unlurking)
 


This might be a bug.  Does it repeat every time you try to install
xcontrib?  Check on www.debian.org and see if this has been reported
already as a bug.  Since most people are running hamm+slink, few people
will be able to respond.  slink has updated X stuff including xcontrib
which doesn't have this error.


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Re: a user list too big, a suggestion

1998-07-05 Thread Ed Cogburn
Alexander Gutfraind wrote:
 
 Hello fellow users.
 The debian user lists are the most important source of
 information for debian users,
 especially in detailed problems. I believe we all agree to
 that.
 However the lists have grown too large. I receive about 80
 MSG's per day from
 the lists and I can't filter myself all those MSG's.
 Wouldn't it be better if would split the lists to, for
 example:
 1) Software
 2) Hardware
 3) Debian  Linux discussion?
 
 Hope to hear your oppinion. better organized lists will help
 us all get what we need:
 Answers to hardware problems/Answers to Software
 problems/discussions and opinions.
 


This has come up before, but for now not enough people are having
problems to cause anything to be changed unfortunately.


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telnet/terminal key codes

1998-07-05 Thread Paul Miller

I'm trying to customize SecureCRT 2.2 so that the keys will be similar to
those of a VC.  Is there a reference page or somewhere that I can find the
strings that are sent when certain keys are pressed?  ie, what is sent
when F5 is pressed?  SecureCRT has VT_PFx codes, but the're only the first
four F keys... F5 through F10 don't work.

Also, what terminal setting works best w/ Linux (and what is the
difference)?

Thanks
-Paul


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Re: Question about debian sources

1998-07-05 Thread Shaleh
 1. Unpack the .tar.gz in a directory.
 2. Copy in that directory the xxx.diff file.
 3. Pacth the files with patch -p1  xxx.dif
 
 Is this the right way to do the things ? In the .diff files were some
 lines that make me think some directory names should be changed, but,
 after the change, no directory name is changed. What am I missing here ?

No actually it is not.  The correct way is to use dpkg-source.  The
command is 'dpkg-source -x package.dsc'.  This will recreate the
maintainers build environ completely.


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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-05 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 Jaakko Niemi writes:
  
   All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, the 
   secondary
   IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen shows the 
   IDE
   primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to boot. 
   How can
   I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary IDE 
   bus?
  
   Does the BIOS find your CD ? 
  
 
 Yes, The BIOS does properly identify the CDrom Drive. Funny thing , now that 
 I
 think about it, is that Win95 could not see the secondary IDE bus or the 
 CDROM
 drive until I loaded a driver under Win95 (supplied by the MB manufacturer).
 Perhaps the registers for the secondary IDE bus are sufficiently different
 from the norm that a special driver is needed.

 That's a reeaally old 95 'buglet' that it did not recognize the secondary IDE
 channel on Intel chipsets and at worst disabled it entarily. 

 If you do a cat /proc/interrupts , do you see int. 15 allocated to ide1 there?

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ISDN problem

1998-07-05 Thread Ramin Motakef
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Hi!
For some days now my ISDN connection doesn't go down automatically anymore due
to traffic on the line. First thougt was that some update caused this, but it
seems that the dial-in-server at my uni sends some routing info periodically.

This is what tcpdump shows me:

 uni  my box
 \/   \/
15:07:35.09 dialsrv1.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de.route  ascend19.hrz.uni-olden\\
 burg.de.route: rip-resp 25: 134.106.148.0(3) 134.106.149.0(2) 134.106.153.0\\
 (2) 134.106.154.0(2) 134.106.156.0(2) 134.106.162.0(2) 134.106.167.0(4) 134.\\
 106.170.0(4) 134.106.171.0(2) 134.106.194.0(2) 134.106.195.0(2) 134.106.226.0\\
 (2) 134.106.227.0(2) 134.106.228.0(2) 134.106.229.0(2) 134.106.230.0(2) 134.\\
 106.233.0(2) 134.106.234.0(2) 134.106.235.0(2) 134.106.237.0(2) 134.106.253.0\\
 (2) ascend19.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de(16) ascend46.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de(16) \\
 ascend49.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de(16) 134.106.49.154(16) (ttl 64, id 46912)

15:07:35.09 ascend19.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de  dialsrv1.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de:\
 icmp: ascend19.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de udp port route unreachable [tos 0xc0] \\
 (ttl 64, id 1591)

Is there anything i can do to stop this?? 
 (enabling routed doesn't help)

PS: I'm running hamm 2.0 beta from Heiko Schlittermann  CD-set. 
I updated this system and installed from scratch two other PC's 
without any trouble using the multicd-install method.
Great Work, many thanks to all the Developers!!!

Ramin 
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Re: a user list too big, a suggestion

1998-07-05 Thread Gary L . Hennigan
Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| I'd really like to be able to get the list in digest format.

Then why don't you subscribe to the digest version? That's what I
do. Just send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with subscribe as the only word in the message and viola, you're
subscribed to the digest version! I get about 3-4 messages a day from
the digest version, two of which usually come in overnight.

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autoup.sh availability

1998-07-05 Thread Bob Hilliard
 Craig Sanders' [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp|http sites at
debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ often have poor connectivity, at least for
North American users.  The following files are now available at
www.debian.org/~hilliard: 

autoup.sh  This differs from the version on Craig's site only in
   that the message giving the list of files required to run
   autoup is complete.

autoup-README  Instructions for using autoup.

autoup.tar.gz  All of the packages required to run autoup.  Users 
   without access to a local mirror will find it much more
   convenient to use this tarball than getting all the
   packages separately by ftp.

Bob
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Re: ISDN problem

1998-07-05 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 RM == Ramin Motakef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

RM For some days now my ISDN connection doesn't go down automatically
RM anymore due to traffic on the line. First thougt was that some update
RM caused this, but it seems that the dial-in-server at my uni sends some
RM routing info periodically.

RM This is what tcpdump shows me:

RM uni  my box
RM \/   \/
RM 15:07:35.09 dialsrv1.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de.route  
ascend19.hrz.uni-olden\\
RM burg.de.route: rip-resp 25: 134.106.148.0(3) 134.106.149.0(2) 
134.106.153.0\\

Looks like you are right.

Use the timru extensions from http://www.zls.de/~cal/timru/. You can tell
isdn4linux not to respect certain package-types or ports when calculating
the hangup time.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Using 2.1.108 kernel

1998-07-05 Thread Michael B. Taylor
Maybe you will find some helpful info at the NIC driver author's site:

http://cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/

Mike

On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Peter Iannarelli wrote:

 Hello all:
 
 Yesterday I tried to get the 2.1.108 kernel up and running.
 I did get it running however I hand one problem, may ethernet
 card (3Com 3C905 vortex) stopped. I am currently running
 Debian's latest released kernel 2.0.34 and all is find. 
 
 With the 2.1.108 kernel, ifconfig reports the NIC is up and running.
 Additionally I can ping the network interface from the machine that
 is running the 108 kernel, but I can't access anything on the
 network. One note, the kernel seems to add a route and
 the /etc/init.d/network file adds a route for that network interface.
 
 Any ideas or thought on this would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Peter
 
 
 


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Re: What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-05 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella
Shaleh writes:
   Another question would be which are the debian gnome compliant
   window-managers ?
  
  I expect a new verion of window maker (.16) and icewm to be coming into
  slink real soon.  Enlightenment will be GNOME compliant and will be in
  Debian as soon as it is released as version .14.  (I package this too)
 

Talking about enlightenment, can you enlighten me on a off-topic
question?

What does it mean something to be GNOME compliant?

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Kernel 2.0.34

1998-07-05 Thread Tomihisa \(Tom\) Welsh

I just installed Debian 2.0 Beta from CD but am still using my old
kernel (2.0.29).  The apt-get -f dist-upgrade downloaded source 2.0.34 for
me, but the cd contains version 2.0.34-2.  Any recommendations on which
one I should use?  Thanks,

Tom


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Re: SCSI Disk Farm

1998-07-05 Thread Michael Laing
I want to experiment with 'raidtools' to set up my disk farm (100-200GB)
and it requires a kernel version  2.1.62.

I haven't worked with experimental kernels before - where is a good
place to get them and how would I pick one that is not TOO experimental,
i.e. doesn't break too easily...

Michael


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A Stupid new in Linux

1998-07-05 Thread Ren Zha
Dear Debian Com
Is that Linux Debian support Pentium 2 ,AGP card,PCI  Sound card
,i am new in Linux, i just heard Linux from internet, 
i no like Microsoft Windows, but i no have choose, in my country is no
a Openmine country, 

Please Help
Thank You

From
RenZha


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Trying to install ELM

1998-07-05 Thread Keith Alen Vance
I am running Debian 1.3 and kernel 2.0.33 and I am trying to install ELM 
I go through the sh /Configure but when I try tail -f MAKELOG it gives me 
the following error message:

cc  -O -I../hdrs  -c mcprt.c -o mcprt.o
mcprt.c: In function `MCprintf':
mcprt.c:64: `__builtin_va_alist' undeclared (first use this function)
mcprt.c:64: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
mcprt.c:64: for each function it appears in.)
mcprt.c: In function `MCfprintf':
mcprt.c:87: `__builtin_va_alist' undeclared (first use this function)
mcprt.c: In function `MCsprintf':
mcprt.c:110: `__builtin_va_alist' undeclared (first use this function)
make[1]: *** [mcprt.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/elm/lib'
make: *** [all] Error 2

All I want to do is send email through the internet. Is there another 
program that may be easier to install.

Thanks,
Keith
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Re: a user list too big, a suggestion

1998-07-05 Thread Eric
Oh...hehehe...sorry.  I didn't know there was a digest.  Thanks.

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Re: Stopping and restarting mgetty.

1998-07-05 Thread peloy
Damon Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try 
 
 'kill -HUP' init

I don't think this will work unless you make changes to /etc/inittab
before killing init with -HUP. The best way to do what he wants is to
do killall -TERM mgetty. This will kill all running mgetty's and
init will respawn them again, and they will run loading the new
configuration.

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Re: working minicom - gets stuck on initielizing modem

1998-07-05 Thread W Paul Mills
On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Micha Feigin wrote:

 I tried to set up minicom. But as a start it would only start up as
 root and then tell me that i shouldn't run it as root.
 Then it gets stuck on the line initielizing modem.
 The same modem works when i start it from win95

Did you add yourself to the group dialout?

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modem works now - but modem-computer comunication really slow

1998-07-05 Thread Micha Feigin
I am trying to connect a zoltrix 33600 modem to a hamm machine.
The modem is an internal modem running on ttyS3
I managed to get the modem dialing, only the comunication is really
slow. It takes 20-30 seconds to get the OK answear from the init
string (ATZ). Then the modem dials (minicom also takes the dial
command real slow). It then connects to the provider (used minicom and
also checkes with plog using pon). The inoput comes at about 30
seconds for half a line to load. I get the login and password promts
(only using minicom - pon hangs up before they apear) and after
connecting the modem hangs up in the middle of the coming from the
provider to start ppp connection.




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Re: xcontrib problem

1998-07-05 Thread David Flethcer
I uninstalled and re installed and the problem seemed to go away. :)

On Sun, 05
Jul 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote: David Flethcer wrote:
 Setting up xcontrib (3.3.1-2) ...
 chown: /usr/X11R6/bin/xload: No such file or directory
 dpkg: error processing xcontrib (--install):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  xcontrib
I get the same problem.  I eagerly wait the responses to this.
 
 David  (unlurking)
 


   This might be a bug.  Does it repeat every time you try to install
xcontrib?  Check on www.debian.org and see if this has been reported
already as a bug.  Since most people are running hamm+slink, few people
will be able to respond.  slink has updated X stuff including xcontrib
which doesn't have this error.


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Re: Driver bug? 56k USR doesn't transmit properly?

1998-07-05 Thread kaynjay
The changes made no difference.  Thanks for the suggestions, though.  

Last thing I can think of is whether the serial driver is setting up the
cua1/ttyS1 file correctly.  Following is output from setserial (I'd already
reset the speed to vhi from normal):

/dev/ttyS1, Line 1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
Flags: spd_vhi skip_test session_lockout

Can anyone tell whether there's anything odd about this w.r.t. a 56k modem
connected as follows:  CONNECT 41333/ARQ/x2/LAPM/V42BIS  ???


In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
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ABORTBUSY
ABORTNO CARRIER
ABORTVOICE
ABORTNO DIALTONE
   atz
OK   ATW1M0DT2823500
CONNECT  \c
ogin i421441
word \q
   \q

Not much help, sorry, but get back to me if you think I can help.  Not that
I put W1 into the dial string to try to find out what speed you get
connected at. 

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Problem: upgrade to hamm from CD with APT

1998-07-05 Thread Tomihisa \(Tom\) Welsh

Hi,
I upgraded to hamm from a Debian 2.0 beta using apt the other day
and everything WORKS ok BUT I am getting dependency problems with dselect.
If I run apt-get update I get a message that the system integrety is ok.
But I was attempting to install kernel 2.0.34 using dselect and I
discovered the following dependency problem:

A number of important packages (gcc, glut3, dpkg-dev, alien, kernel 2.0.34 
etc) all recommend (if not require) libc-dev.  This appears to provided by
libc5-dev or libc6-dev.  I assume I want libc6-dev?!

However,  whenever I select libc6-dev in deselect it gives me a dependency
error with libc6!  The corresponding error with apt-get dselect-upgrade is
the following: 
--
Updating package status cache...done
Checking system integrity...ok
Sorry, but the following packages are broken - this means they have unmet
dependencies:
  libc6-dev: Depends:libc6


-

AND if I dont select libc6-dev then dselect unmarks alien, rpm, gcc ,etc!

This is definitely a vicous circle!

Has anyone else had these problems? The apt-get -f dist-upgrade went 
pretty much ok- it kicked me out near the very end without installing
imagemagick4g but I used dpkg for this and everything else seems ok.


Thanks for any insight

Tom


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Customize Xemacs in text mode

1998-07-05 Thread Dan Pomohaci
How can I customize Xemacs to have colors and menus in text mode? I read all
the stuff about faces, I try with customize-face but no success. I have a
hamm distribution.

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Re: Problem: upgrade to hamm from CD with APT

1998-07-05 Thread Martin Bialasinski


TW However, whenever I select libc6-dev in deselect it gives me a
TW dependency error with libc6!  The corresponding error with apt-get
TW dselect-upgrade is

libc6 and libc6 have to be the same version IIRC. Please check this.

Ciao,
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Re: adding, changing, using true type fonts under X11

1998-07-05 Thread Shaul
1) Adding fonts to X11 (in existing directories):
If I wanted to add the file courR14h.pcf.gz to the (existing) directory 
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, I would:

chmod 444 *.pcf.gz
mv courR14h.pcf.gz /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
mkfontdir /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
xset fp rehash

 
 anyone knows how to add new fonts to X11 (in existing directories)
 How to change fonts and default fonts
 and how to use true type fonts / xfstt?







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1998-07-05 Thread Nuno Carvalho


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Apt upgrade

1998-07-05 Thread Daniel Mashao
Has anyone been able to use the apt upgrade method to Hamm? I get all
sorts of problems. First of all the installed system says it wants perl
5.004 I think. It has the following questions
require 5.004;
Now my poor self is trying to reamin truly Debian and I have not seen perl
version 5.004. 

Then it complains about there not being File::stat; I guess its because
there is no correct perl version. 

Secondly using the sources.list file
deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/binary-$(ARCH)/

which was the example file posted by someone on how to upgrade using apt I
get the following error messages:
Fetched 1420k in 0s (4282k/s)   
Updating package file cache...
E: Opening
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_frozen_main_binary-i386_Packages
- ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)

Anybody knows what is going on? And where can I get the required version
of perl short of compiling one myself.

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Re: Trying to install ELM

1998-07-05 Thread Jack Kern
On Sun, Jul 05, 1998 at 01:08:56PM -0400, Keith Alen Vance wrote:
 I am running Debian 1.3 and kernel 2.0.33 and I am trying to install ELM 
 I go through the sh /Configure but when I try tail -f MAKELOG it gives me 
 the following error message:
 
 cc  -O -I../hdrs  -c mcprt.c -o mcprt.o
 [...]

Is there a particular reason that you need to _compile_ elm?  If not,
then you can get the elm-me+ package from the Debian 1.3 distribution
and use dpkg -i elm-me+_*.deb to install the package.

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Re: autoup.sh availability

1998-07-05 Thread treacy
  Craig Sanders' [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp|http sites at
 debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ often have poor connectivity, at least for
 North American users.  The following files are now available at
 www.debian.org/~hilliard: 
 
[snip]

Is there any reason you don't just use http://www.debian.org/2.0/autoup/ ?
In fact you can even use any of the www.{country}.debian.org mirrors.

This location is linked from the Developers Corner and from the 2.0 beta
release announcement.

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Compiling the kernel?

1998-07-05 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Hello,

I'm a fairly new Linux user, and am really starting to enjoy Linux and
the Debian distribution. I'm running Hamm which I have downloaded and
installed in bits and pieces with the help of dftp and dpkg. I also have
the KDE beta4 desktop, the glib version of Communicator 4.05, and the
Tkdesk file manager. I'm impressed - not bad at all!

Anyway, I'm trying to learn how to configure and compile the kernel. I
have the 2.0.33 kernel source and header packages properly installed
(dpkg is happy anyway), and the /usr/include links set up correctly as
stated in the source documentation. I then do the following:

cd /usr/src/linux
make mrproper
make xconfig  (then configure, save, and exit)
make dep
make clean
make zImage

The compile proceeds for a few minutes, and then exits with these lines:

as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s
make[1]: as86 Command not found
make[1]: *** [bootsect.o] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory 'usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [zImage] Error 2

It does leave a vmlinuz image file in /usr/src/linux which is about the
same size as my current kernel, but when I install it in /boot and run
lilo, it complains about kernel image too large, or similar words. I
restored the original so it's no problem as far as running, but does
anyone have an idea what the problem might be, or where to read up on
it?

Will appreciate any help. Thanks

Tom


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Sound Card

1998-07-05 Thread Joe Lillibridge
Just a quick question... I have a plug  play soundcard (sb clone).
Right now I have the kernel using it as WSS.  The sound often cracks,
and I can only control DSP  Mic volume with mixers.  Is this a problem
with WSS, or could it be a problem with my isapnp.conf file?  I just
want to know before I spend 8 hours trying to fix it. :)

BTW, I'm pretty sure the brand is Crystal, but that's all I remember.

joe


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Re: Compiling the kernel?

1998-07-05 Thread Reinhold Fischer
On Sun, 05 Jul 1998, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
Hello,

I'm a fairly new Linux user, and am really starting to enjoy Linux and
the Debian distribution. I'm running Hamm which I have downloaded and
installed in bits and pieces with the help of dftp and dpkg. I also have
the KDE beta4 desktop, the glib version of Communicator 4.05, and the
Tkdesk file manager. I'm impressed - not bad at all!

Anyway, I'm trying to learn how to configure and compile the kernel. I
have the 2.0.33 kernel source and header packages properly installed
(dpkg is happy anyway), and the /usr/include links set up correctly as
stated in the source documentation. I then do the following:

cd /usr/src/linux
make mrproper
make xconfig  (then configure, save, and exit)
make dep
make clean
make zImage

The compile proceeds for a few minutes, and then exits with these lines:

as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s
make[1]: as86 Command not found
make[1]: *** [bootsect.o] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory 'usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [zImage] Error 2

It does leave a vmlinuz image file in /usr/src/linux which is about the
same size as my current kernel, but when I install it in /boot and run
lilo, it complains about kernel image too large, or similar words. I
restored the original so it's no problem as far as running, but does
anyone have an idea what the problem might be, or where to read up on
it?

Will appreciate any help. Thanks

Tom


Hi Tom,

you should install the following package (pasted from dselect description):

+bin86 - 16-bit assembler and loader

+This is the as86 and ld86 distribution written by Bruce Evans. It's a
+complete 8086 assembler and loader which can make 32-bit code for the 386+
+processors (under Linux it's used only to create the 16-bit bootsector and
+setup binaries).  

usually if you compile the kernel with make zImage the compressed
(installable) kernel image is in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage.

use this one for lilo, loadlin or however you start your system. 

don't forget to compile (make modules) and install (make modules_install) the
kernels modules also 



Cheers

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Re: Compiling the kernel?

1998-07-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Tom Pfeifer wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm a fairly new Linux user, and am really starting to enjoy Linux and
 the Debian distribution. I'm running Hamm which I have downloaded and
 installed in bits and pieces with the help of dftp and dpkg. I also have
 the KDE beta4 desktop, the glib version of Communicator 4.05, and the
 Tkdesk file manager. I'm impressed - not bad at all!
 
 Anyway, I'm trying to learn how to configure and compile the kernel. I
 have the 2.0.33 kernel source and header packages properly installed
 (dpkg is happy anyway), and the /usr/include links set up correctly as
 stated in the source documentation. I then do the following:

The source documentation is incorrect for a Debian libc6 installation.
You should have left it alone.  As root, do 

mv /usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux-2.0.33 (if /usr/src/linux is a link to
this, just remove it.)
ln -s /usr/source/kernel-headers-2.0.32 /usr/src/linux' 

 
 cd /usr/src/linux
 make mrproper
 make xconfig  (then configure, save, and exit)
 make dep
 make clean
 make zImage
 
 The compile proceeds for a few minutes, and then exits with these lines:
 
 as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s
 make[1]: as86 Command not found
 make[1]: *** [bootsect.o] Error 127
 make[1]: Leaving directory 'usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/boot'
 make: *** [zImage] Error 2

Install the bin86 package

 
 It does leave a vmlinuz image file in /usr/src/linux which is about the
 same size as my current kernel, but when I install it in /boot and run
 lilo, it complains about kernel image too large, or similar words. I
 restored the original so it's no problem as far as running, but does
 anyone have an idea what the problem might be, or where to read up on
 it?

Use 'make bzImage' instead of 'make zImage'.

To ease compilation and automate the lilo setup, install
kernel-package and read its documentation.

Bob


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Re: Compiling the kernel?

1998-07-05 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Bob,

Thanks. Looks like I had more than one problem here.

I take it I should reinstall the 2.0.32 kernel headers package then
also? I was confused about that and it didn't look right so I removed
it. This whole setup isn't very clear, but I think you've got me headed
in the right direction.

Tom


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Re: Compiling the kernel?

1998-07-05 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Reinhold,

Yes I did the make modules and make modules_install, but I left that out
since I didn't get far enough for that to be an issue.

There was no image file in the arch/i386/boot directory (where I was
expecting it to be), only in /usr/src/linux, which was strange, but is
likely caused by my incorrect setup.

Thanks for the tip on bin86. I don't know how I missed that, as it
wasn't a dependancy for any package I installed. Between you and Bob,
I've got some things to look into. Thanks

Tom


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Re: Sound Card (fwd)

1998-07-05 Thread Eric
There is a sound driver in the standard kernel source for a few of the
Crystal cards including the CS4232.  I believe that it even takes care of
the PnP stuff for you (???).  You may want to try that.

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On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Joe Lillibridge wrote:

 Just a quick question... I have a plug  play soundcard (sb clone).
 Right now I have the kernel using it as WSS.  The sound often cracks,
 and I can only control DSP  Mic volume with mixers.  Is this a problem
 with WSS, or could it be a problem with my isapnp.conf file?  I just
 want to know before I spend 8 hours trying to fix it. :)
 
 BTW, I'm pretty sure the brand is Crystal, but that's all I remember.
 
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I hate smail and everything else!!!!

1998-07-05 Thread Keith Alen Vance
I am trying and trying and trying so hard to get my email to work on my 
Debian 1.3 system, but nothing I ever do seems to work. I am going nuts. 
Smail has somehow gotten halfway installed on my system and it wont go 
away. If I try and remove smail with this command:

dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --purge smail

I get this error:

(Reading database ... 18666 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing smail ...
Stopping smail daemon...failed.
no crontab for mail
dpkg: error processing smail (--purge):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
... hmm, can't open /etc/smail/config?
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 smail

I really want to get smail off my system and never want to see it again. 
What I have been trying to do is set qmail, which I think I have gotten 
set up but I don't know. I have tried to install Elm about 300 times 
today with debian packages and compiling it myself, but none of that 
works either. If I try and install the Debian package for Elm it 
complains that smail is not configured. Do I have to have smail 
configured in order to use Elm. I would really like to use qmail. I have 
also tried to install Pine. I just need a MUA running so I can see if 
qmail is setup right. Any help on this problem would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: working minicom - gets stuck on initielizing modem

1998-07-05 Thread Tom Malloy
On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Micha Feigin wrote:

 I tried to set up minicom. But as a start it would only start up as
 root and then tell me that i shouldn't run it as root.
 Then it gets stuck on the line initielizing modem.
 The same modem works when i start it from win95
 _

1. Write down the initalizing string that works in win95 and use
the same one in minicom.
2. Remember to start the minicom with the setup flag when you are
root.   minicom -s
3. Make sure this is not a windoz only modem.



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Re: Compiling the kernel?

1998-07-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
Well, the official Debian position is to link to the 2.0.32 headers,
however it should probably also work with 2.0.3{3|4}, as I doubt that
there are any significant changes (although I haven't checked).

See /usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.Debian.gz for the details (this is somewhat
controversial, particularly among non-debianites).

Here's what I have in /usr/src (as installed by default when I upgraded to
hamm):

drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 1024 Mar 23 21:11 kernel-headers-2.0.32
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root src21 Jun  5 11:06 linux - 
kernel-headers-2.0.32
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root src21 Mar 23 21:52 linux-2.0.32 - 
kernel-headers-2.0.32

Bob

On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Tom Pfeifer wrote:

 Bob,
 
 Thanks. Looks like I had more than one problem here.
 
 I take it I should reinstall the 2.0.32 kernel headers package then
 also? I was confused about that and it didn't look right so I removed
 it. This whole setup isn't very clear, but I think you've got me headed
 in the right direction.
 
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Re: I hate smail and everything else!!!!

1998-07-05 Thread aqy6633
 I am trying and trying and trying so hard to get my email to work on my 
 Debian 1.3 system, but nothing I ever do seems to work. I am going nuts. 
 Smail has somehow gotten halfway installed on my system and it wont go 
 away. If I try and remove smail with this command:

To do it cleanly, I would suggest downloading smail*.deb file from
ftp.debian.org and installing it with dpkg -i smail*.deb
The just do dpkg --purge smail.

  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
 ... hmm, can't open /etc/smail/config?

Another way is to look into /var/lib/dpkg/info/smail.prerm
and see what causing the problem. No-brainer approach would be to edit this
file and put exit 0 right after #!/bin/sh line. I would hightly recommend
execute the following:
/etc/init.d/smail stop
update-inetd --comment-chars \#disabled\# --disable smtp

I myself wouldn't do it this way, but try to understand what does the
smail.prerm wants to make it happy.

Alex Y.
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Re: [Debian] Urgent: how to create Debian CD from non-debian UNIX system

1998-07-05 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Nico De Ranter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
 we have a local mirror of the debian distribution that we use
 to install our Debian PC's.  However next week we will have to 
 install Debian on a PC which has no access to our network so
 we want to create a CD starting from the current mirror.  
 unfortunately the mirror is located on a SUN and none of my
 Linux machines has enough harddisk to contain a CD.
 
 I tried installing the sources for debian-cd but they don't seem
 to contain any documentation. -(
 
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Nico

Well, it is also possible to use CD images that other people have
created (assuming that your SUN has good network connectivity and that
it has hard drive space to spare) - if you want to make a CD for
installing a bo (aka 1.3 or 1.3.1) Debian system you can get the
official CD image in any number of places - the www.debian.org site
should tell you where in detail.

If instead you want a CD that can create a hamm (aka 2.0, or at this
point really 2.0-beta, since officially 2.0 doesn't exist yet)
system, you can look at the webpage
http://www.uk.debian.org/debian-cd/cd-images/ , where Phillip Hands
has put his 2.0-beta CD images (I'd suggest only using the 2.0beta1
images on that site, however).

I know this isn't exactly what you asked about, but it may be much
easier to go get someone else's CD image than trying to nudge the
debian-cd scripts into working on a SUN.

DANIEL MARTIN


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dos partition long filenames

1998-07-05 Thread David B. Wilson
Hi, I'm running a kernel (2.0.3something) with the FAT32 patch.
Do I need another patch in order to see filenames as they appear
under w95, or will the filenames always appear truncated under Linux?
Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  David


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Re: dos partition long filenames

1998-07-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, David B. Wilson wrote:

 Hi, I'm running a kernel (2.0.3something) with the FAT32 patch.
 Do I need another patch in order to see filenames as they appear
 under w95, or will the filenames always appear truncated under Linux?
 Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Compile with vfat enabled.

Bob


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Re: Problem: upgrade to hamm from CD with APT, SOLVED

1998-07-05 Thread Tomihisa \(Tom\) Welsh

TW However, whenever I select libc6-dev in deselect it gives me a
TW dependency error with libc6!  The corresponding error with apt-get
TW dselect-upgrade is

libc6 and libc6 have to be the same version IIRC. Please check this.

Ciao,
Martin


The revision was slightly different between libc6 (v. 2.0.7r-3)
and libc6-dev (v. 2.0.7.r-2).  Everything looks good now- Thanks!

Tom


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Mutt configuration

1998-07-05 Thread Mike Merten
Hi everyone,

I have a problem configuring Mutt.  All mail, unless I delete it,
is saved in my spoolfile.  I'm trying to configure the mbox-hook
command to move all read mail to a different folder (mbox) but
am unable to get it to work.  

The spool file is the users default mail file in /var/spool/mail/.
The mbox file is the usual ~/mbox.  In /etc/Muttrc I added the line

mbox-hook $spoolfile ~/mbox

I've also tried specifying the full pathname in place of $spoolfile
and ~/mbox.  I've tried swapping the spoolfile and mbox args in case
I misread the syntax in the docs.  Obviously I'm not doing something
right.  Any suggestions?


Mike



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Re: dos partition long filenames

1998-07-05 Thread Tom Pfeifer
You also need to specify the vfat file system when you mount a
partition. For example to mount hda1 as vfat:

mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt

I think if you don't specify vfat, it will mount as msdos by default,
which will give you the truncated file names.

Run the command df -T to see the file system of each mounted partition.

Tom

David B. Wilson wrote:
 
 Hi, I'm running a kernel (2.0.3something) with the FAT32 patch.
 Do I need another patch in order to see filenames as they appear
 under w95, or will the filenames always appear truncated under Linux?
 Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   David
 
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