RE: Más info sobre la ZIP i la impresora

1998-07-08 Thread J. Parera
Hola,


 Si pongo a los dos como modulos, utilizando kerneld, funcionará todo
bien?
 Es decir, al poner mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /floppy me funcionará sin
tener
 que teclear modprobe ppa. O si hago lpr fichero no tendré que hacer antes
 modprobe lp?

Sí. Tienes que añadir la línea
alias scsi_hostadapter ppa

a /etc/conf.modules


Hecho, pero no rula :-(.

Al hacer lpr fichero si me funciona (antes ya funcionaba) pero si hago
mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /floppy aún me continua poniendo:

mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device (maybe
`insmod driver'?)

Que he hecho mal?

 Tengo que poner los modulos a cargar en el /etc/modules? Tengo que
activar
 auto, solo, o tambien los modulos a cargar? O que hago?
auto únicamente.

Luis.

Un saludo,
  J. Parera


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Re: Conexión a internet mediante infovia

1998-07-08 Thread Josep Parera Miró
Hola,

Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:

  En el p??o win95 con este tipo de programas se puede navegar y leer
  offline (menos el irc!) en Linux tambien es asi? He oido que mucha gente
  se instala servidores en sus propias máquinas para leer el correo y news
  en modo local o que se instalan un servidor de web como proxy, es eso
  necesario? No consume muchos recursos? Recomendable?
 
 wwwoffled (nunca se como se llama este programa, comienza con tres www, y
 tiene una o dos f's, una l y una d). Hiperfantastico. Encadenado con el
 junkbuster funciona muy bien. (Pon el junkbuster de primero, creo)
 
 Marcelo


soy muy ignorante.. :( . me puedes explicar, por poco que
puedas, que es exactamente esta solución?

Existe documentación sobre estos programas en español?

Hasta pronto,
  J. Parera



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Re: Configurar Debian para que acepte conexiones telefónicas

1998-07-08 Thread Tomas Bautista
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:

 Yo me figuraba que alla la cosa era distinta y lo que infovirria venia solo
 por lo poco confiable del servicio mas que por otras cosas.

Si solo fuera por eso... Y me acuerdo de hasta una viñeta que sacaron al
poco de poner en marcha el invento, donde se veían dos amigos y uno le
decía al otro:

-- Por fin estoy accedediendo al ciberdespacio.
-- Será al *ciberespacio*.
-- No. Es *ciberdespacio*: me conecto a través de Infovía...

  Tomás.


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Directorio /usr/ulib

1998-07-08 Thread Antonio Calvo Rodriguez
Me ha aparecido en el disco el directorio /usr/ulib
contiene cosas del termcap, debe proceder de algun paquete que he
instalado pero con dpkg -S no consigo que me indique cual.
¿ De cual puede proceder ?
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Re: Directorio /usr/ulib

1998-07-08 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 09:46:22PM +0200, Antonio Calvo Rodriguez wrote:
 Me ha aparecido en el disco el directorio /usr/ulib
 contiene cosas del termcap, debe proceder de algun paquete que he
 instalado pero con dpkg -S no consigo que me indique cual.
 ¿ De cual puede proceder ?

Pues yo no lo tengo. :-?

Si viniese en algún deb debería aparecer con dpkg -S.  También podría
haberlo creado en algún {pre,post}inst, así que un 
grep /usr/ulib /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.{pre,post}inst detectaría al
culpable.

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RE: Hamm? Donde

1998-07-08 Thread Manu
Si, es cierto.
Yo lo he probado y salio todo a la primera
La actualizacion fue desde la 2.0.33 de la distribucion de SuSE 5.1

Saludos


-Mensaje original-
De: Narcis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: martes 7 de julio de 1998 10:57
Asunto: Re: Hamm? Donde


He visto en la caratula del CD-ROM de PROGRAMACIÓN ACTUAL (n.16) el
siguiente
titulo

Última versión del Kernel LINUX 2.0.34

Espero que sea lo que mas de uno esta esperando ... si alguien con un poco
de
tiempo lo comprueba que me/nos diga si es o no cierto.

Saludos,
Narcís.



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Re: Cambiar el mapa de teclado por defecto

1998-07-08 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Wed, Jul 08, 1998 at 07:55:37PM +0200, Angel Martin Alganza wrote:
 Hola a todos,
 
 Cómo puedo cambiar el mapa de teclado por defecto en Debian?
 He cambiado mi teclado US (se ha rompido) por uno DE.

/usr/sbin/kbdconfig

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xtoolplaces y nuevas sesiones con olwm

1998-07-08 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
Hola a todos,

La utilidad 'xtoolplaces' para xview (olwm) almacena en un ~/.xtoolplaces
la información sobre las aplicaciones en ejecución y su posición en el
escritorio. Hasta aquí me funciona perfectamente (ejecutándolo desde un
item llamado 'Save Workspace' en el menú del escritorio), pero cómo consigo
que al empezar una nueva sesión de trabajo el escritorio me aparezca
exáctamente así como ocurre en el 'olwm' en Solaris?

Gracias y un saludo,
Angel

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Re: bo--hamm: 'iso9660 not supported'

1998-07-08 Thread john
Nathan E Norman writes:
 Out of curiousity, what will happen to a PPP setup in a server
 environment?  (the linux box is the RAS)

The files that the ppp postinst messes with are only used by pon to dial
out.  However, you may still need to do some reconfiguration as some of the
changes in pppd are not downward compatible.
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TCP/IP Ports JDBC-mSQL Security

1998-07-08 Thread Marcus Johnson
I'm a newbie to Linux and I've run into a problem that I can't figure out. 
I'm using my ISP's Debian 1.1 system and mSQL with the JDBC-mSQL driver
via my shell account. I've set up an mSQL database and can query it
succesfully with mSQL tools, but I haven't successfully connected with
JDBC yet, not even with a local connection. I've checked the host URL and
I'm pretty certain I have it correct.  I asked my ISP's SysAdmin about why
could one locally running program access the database, but not another. He
said something about there being TCP/IP Port security set up within inetd
that he'd have to change -- and that he didn't have any time to do
anything about it -- so I'm dead in the water. But while I'm twiddling my
thumbs I'm still wondering if this is the correct explanation.  Like maybe
there's something I'm missing here and I could get it running without the
SysAdmin making TCP/IP ports publically available (I can understand his
reluctance, but it leaves me up the creek). Obviously there's a lot I
don't know, so I'm not sure if I've even given enough info for y'all to
help me or if I've confused things by the way I've framed the question. 
Maybe if someone asks me the right questions I'll be able to answer them
and get on the right track.  I'm really in the dark here and I'd really
appreciate any help or insights anyone could provide.

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Re: Making modem talk 3........................

1998-07-08 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Oh, we're almost there. That's just the info we need. Now, you need to create 
your
/etc/isapnp.conf file. The easiest way to do this is to have the pnpdump command
create a template file for you. As root run:

pnpdump  /etc/isapnp.conf

You'll then edit the file. Basically, your modem can be set up with a number of
different IO and IRQ values. You just have to tell it which one. pnpdump will 
create
the config file, with all possible values but commented out. You just need to
uncomment the right lines (and possible edit the lines a bit) and then run
'/etc/init.d/isapnp start'. If you're brave and confident go ahead and try 
this. If
you get muddled with the config file come on back.

Phillip Neumann wrote:

 Hi, again..

 This is getting interesting for me, because i have try to configure my
 modem since about 3 weeks, and i couldnt.
 Im my win95 modem prop. said its in COM3. In the Resources tab it said
 Input/Output 03E8 and Interrupt Request 05. Im a novice with that
 stuff and im not syre if thats the IRQ and OI.

I hope my modem will work !!

 Thanks , Phillip Neumann, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You wrote:

 Ok, making progress now. Here comes the hard part! You need to decide
 which IO address
 and IRQ port your PNP modem should use. In order to make things easy,
 let's first
 assume that using the same ones which Win95 assigns will work in Linux
 (which will
 most likely be true). In Win95, right-click My Computer and choose
 Properties from
 the popup menu. Now look at the device manager. You should be able to
 find your modem
 and see which IO port and IRQ are assigned. Gather this information and
 then we'll
 move on.
 
 Phillip Neumann wrote:
 
  Hi again
  Here i am with my computer open. I have see what is in the modem
 board,
  and there said com 1, com2, com3, com4, PNP, so i guess its a PNP
  modem. I have install the isapnptool package. I still cant make my
 modem
  do some noise !!! (dialing something in minicom)
 
  Thanksm for great help, Phillip Neumann
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  You wrote:
 
  Your modem is most likely Plug-N-Play. In order to initialize
  Plug-N-Play
  devices you
  need the isapnp package. Use dselect to install this package. You'll
  then need
  to
  customize the /etc/isapnp.conf file. Try to verify whether or not
 your
  modem is
  Plug-N-Play and get back to us.
 
  phillip Neumann wrote:
 
   Hi debian users,
  
  Im just starting with linux, and have done some configuration
  stuff.
   But i cannot still make my modem talk   I guess the first
 step
  to
   do, is dial a number with minicom. I cant even do this. Windows95
  said,
   my us. robotics 33.6k is in COM 3. So I have tried the /dev/ttyS2
  port;
   nothing hapened. I have try all the other ports, and nothing. What
  sould
   i do to make debian dial something ??
   (im using Hamm)
  
   this is going on in my system my system:
  
   -- Before debian ask me my name:
 Bla, bla
 Configuring serial portsfailed...
   Trying to load the serial module manually...
 Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
 tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
   Succses.. retrying configuration...done
 /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 Bla, bla
   
  
   -- setserial /dev/ttySX auto_irq autoconfig -v, where X go from 0
 to
  3:
  
messages:
/dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
/dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
/dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4
/dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3
  
Thanks for shearing your knoledgment,
  
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Re: Making modem talk 3........................

1998-07-08 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 03:48:59PM -0700, Phillip Neumann wrote:
 
 Hi, again..
 
 This is getting interesting for me, because i have try to configure my 
 modem since about 3 weeks, and i couldnt.
 Im my win95 modem prop. said its in COM3. In the Resources tab it said 
 Input/Output 03E8 and Interrupt Request 05. Im a novice with that 
 stuff and im not syre if thats the IRQ and OI.
 
I hope my modem will work !!

setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5

If that works, put it in /etc/rc.boot/0setserial

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Re: Micropolis

1998-07-08 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Keith Alen Vance wrote:
| 
| : I have a Micropolis scsi drive model 3243 and was wondering if anyone new 
| : of a site or a person that may have the jumper settings for this drive. 
| : The company has filed bankcrupsy(that is spelled wrong) and is not 
| : providing any tech support 
| : for their products. I know this has nothing to do with debian other than 
| : fact that debian will be on this drive when I get it working. Just 
| : remember if you needed 
| : the jumper setting for a ne2000 card or something I would give them to 
| : you so don't complain.
| 
| No complaining, eh?
| 
| Take a peek at
| http://www.donovan.com.sg/support/techinfo/data_sheets/490P3_1.html
| 
| (Altavista - http://www.altavista.digital.com - is your friend.  I
| searched with +Micropolis +3243)

I'm sure the link Nathan mentioned is fine, BUT, for future reference,
this one is INVALUABLE for disk drive information

http://www.blue-planet.com/tech

Every disk I've ever come across is listed there.

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Re: What's a good video card?

1998-07-08 Thread Lawrence Walton
You might take a look at this before saying that. 

http://www.xfree86.org/sponsors.html

Lawrence Walton
Otak
Network Manager
425.739.4247

On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Shaleh wrote:

 ATI does NOT support Linux or Xfree in ANY way.  All users should
 boycott them in general.  Besides, the cards are CHEAP not inexpensive. 
 There is a difference.  Spend the 20 extra bucks for a Matrox.  Or
 someone else's card.  The ATi all-in-one wonder card can not be used in
 Linux because they refuse to release any specs.  That is from Alan Cox,
 not me.
 
 
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Re: Making modem talk 3........................

1998-07-08 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Mike Schmitz wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 03:48:59PM -0700, Phillip Neumann wrote:
 
  Hi, again..
 
  This is getting interesting for me, because i have try to configure my
  modem since about 3 weeks, and i couldnt.
  Im my win95 modem prop. said its in COM3. In the Resources tab it said
  Input/Output 03E8 and Interrupt Request 05. Im a novice with that
  stuff and im not syre if thats the IRQ and OI.
 
 I hope my modem will work !!

 setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5

 If that works, put it in /etc/rc.boot/0setserial

This will not work. If the BIOS had already configured the PNP modem then the 
serial
device driver would have discovered the device at 3e8 since it probes there. It 
didn't
find it so this won't work.

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ps command in 2.0 frozen

1998-07-08 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
I noticed that the version of ps in the frozen Debian 2.0
distribution is different than what was in 1.3. The thing I miss most
about the version in 1.3 was the ability to define PS_PERSONALITY as
POSIX and ps would act like the Posix version (or SYSV). I'm much
more familiar with this but now that functionality appears to be gone
in 2.0. Anyone know why? What was the old version? I don't have a 1.3
system around anymore to find out. ps --version on the 2.0 system
yields procps version 1.2.7.

TIA,
Gary


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1998-07-08 Thread James


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Re: Debian Package Manager Worthless Junk???

1998-07-08 Thread Mark Mealman
On Tue, 07 Jul 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:

(To be fair, I haven't used Red Hat since 4.2 and it may have improved
since then, but they severely mismanaged the conversion to glibc.)

RH's gotten worse since then.

Bad enough they broke libc with the 4.2 - 5.0 upgrade(I did NOT enjoy editing
the binary of my java compiler to get it to work under Glibc at that time), but
now they've pushed through another zapper by partially switching over to egcs.

Just the C++ part, mind you, C is still compiled by gcc.

Ever compile a C++ program that was authored under gcc with egcs' strictly ANSI
C++ compiler?

Not fun.

I ordered Bo last week so I can remove this RH beast from my hard drive before
it gets outta control.

I figured any distribution that's currently _beta_ testing a libc - glibc
transition has got to decently stable and organized.

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Re: SCSI Disk Farm

1998-07-08 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Michael Laing wrote:

 This success has lead us to experiment with 'electronic portfolios' in
 which kids create a multimedia record of things they create over the
 school year. We are just starting to burn CD's for each of them so they
 can take their portfolios home (and we can archive their work).
 
 However, it looks like we need to allocate .5-1 GB per kid for working
 storage...2500 kids in 7 schools...200-1000GB per school...

 Yeesh. I'd like your budget. :-

 At any rate, we want to pilot a debian-based disk farm at the high
 school, particularly to support the video program in the fall.

 For this sort of thing, you're going to want to go with external
SCSI-RAID setups. So far as Linux is concerned, it's just a large disk.
Both DPT and Mylex make these, and maybe others. Some are configured with
special software on the Linux box, some use a separate dumb terminal
hooked to the external enclosure.

 I am thinking of building a system based on a dual PII BX motherboard,

 I don't have experience with systems this large, but serving and storing
data is not usually processor-bound, but instead disk- and RAM-bound. You
could probably get away with spending less on processor and more on RAM
and *good* SCSI controllers. This is a good rule of thumb with most things
involving Linux anyway.

 You could ask on linux-net about any issues involved in 100MB Ethernet.
ISTR hearing about needing a fast enough processor to serve all those
interrupts, but for a pure disk farm, I think dual-PII may be overkill.
(Of course, if money's not tight, what the heck, go for it.) I don't have
any 100MB experience. :- Just a lowly 10MB coax net at home...


 Sincerely,

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Re: dual boot?? win98???

1998-07-08 Thread Christopher Barry
I use System Commander (v3) also and I think it's a really great piece of 
software.
Haven't tried v4, which gives you the functionality of Partition Magic built 
in. It's
much prettier than lilo. It brings up a nice colorful iconified menu and plays 
a cute
sound and you can configure it to do a number of things like manage which 
partitions
are visible to which OSes, provide additional boot time security, display a 
graphical
timeout to OS selection bar, etc., etc. It can provide different system 
configuration
files to different OSes or different configurations of the same OS on the same
partition, so you could boot DOS on the first primary partition with one 
autoexec.bat
file that includes win and another one that doesn't, and have a DOS and a 
Windows
3.11 entry in the menu, for example. I'm trying to think of good features to 
mention
off the top of my head, there are a lot. If you install A LOT of different OSes,
System Commander will serve you better than lilo, as you can pretty much 
install and
boot any OS on any partition hassle free and manage them. But for *just* 
win/linux/dos
I guess you'll be fine with lilo and you can use the cash to buy more RAM. I've 
had
hamm, RH 5.1, NT 4.0, NT 5.0, Win 98, Win 95, DOS, and DOS w/ win 3.11 all 
installed
at the same time, but found that all I ever use is Win 95 and hamm, so I 
removed all
of them except for Win 95, hamm, and DOS on a 16mb partition which I need for 
firmware
updates and for System Commander itself. Win 95 is next to go to :)

I thought Red Hat 5.1 was nice, but you really need to get the CD if you want to
install it right, as they make getting it via ftp a HUGE hassle. And you need 
to D/L
like 50mb+ files just for the base system it seems, and it's a large number of 
files
to, not just big tarball. And the package management sucks if you don't 
actually have
ALL the RPMs on a mounted medium, because it will spit error after error at you 
unless
you edit a file similar to Debian's Packages.gz by hand, which is a real pain. 
Red
Hat's web site is more like a big advertisement to, Debian's is s much 
nicer. It
lets you get to the meat right away, and there's more, better meat to. :)

It does seem though that Red Hat is the first to get cool new software in RPMs, 
or the
latest version. They've had Enlightenment and Gnome RPMs for some time now, and 
they
also get to use xfsft instead of the xfstt we are stuck with, and appears will 
be for
a good while.

Evan Van Dyke wrote:

  From: Len Cumbow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 12:19 PM
  To: S K; debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Re: dual boot?? win98???
 
  Look into System Commander.  It's a boot manager with
  specific support for
  Linux
  as well as the various flavors of Windows, DOS, OS/2 and
  other Unixes.  You
  can
  get it at any retail computer store for under $50.  Works great.

 Why not use LILO which comes Free with Linux and works fine for
 Linux/Windows/Dos booting?  If you're using OS/2 or NT, they come with
 bootloaders that can access Linux.  WHy spend money for what you can
 get free?

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Re: Debian Package Manager Worthless Junk???

1998-07-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 07:03:57PM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
 Just the C++ part, mind you, C is still compiled by gcc.
 
 Ever compile a C++ program that was authored under gcc with egcs' strictly 
 ANSI
 C++ compiler?

Debian 2.0 has this too -- gcc is the GNU standard one (2.7.2.3),
g++ is the egcs one (1.0.3a). egcs gcc is also available.


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Re: Installing gnome

1998-07-08 Thread Christopher Barry
What's the url to slink anyways?

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btw:
That's really nifty to know the install order. I downloaded and installed Gnome 
last
week, the last time I saw those two URLs posted to the list. I remember 
installing one
deb, then getting a ton of errors about dependencies on other debs, and then 
getting
tons of dependency errors by trying to install those debs that the other deb was
dependent on, but after spending awhile at it I got the order right.

Shaleh wrote:

 I never assume how much of a newbie you are (-:  Ok, step one.  Go to
 www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software and get the imlib packages, you only
 need the -dev ones if you intend to compile things.  Install them in
 this order: imlib-base, libimlib, libgdk-imlib, imlib-progs (then the
 -dev's if you want them).  Now go to www.jimpick.com.  You need libgnome
 (and the -dev if desired), libgtkxhtml, gnome-core.  This is enough to
 install (almost) any other package desired.  When you download a .deb if
 you run dpkg -I mydeb.deb where mydeb.deb is the deb package name,
 dpkg will tell you what files it depends on.

 OR you can wait another week and GNOME should be in slink, and you can
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laptop - Digital HiNote Ultra 2000

1998-07-08 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi,

I am just installing debian on a new laptop.  I've come across a couple of
problems so far.

1. When rebooting, it unmounts the disks and everything, and then just
hangs.  It doesn't reboot.  This is particularly annoying because to do a
hardware reboot, I need to remove the keyboard.

2. The installation instructions told me to disable shadow ram in BIOS -
but the bios menus didn't allow me to.  Is this important?

3. The laptop came with an integrated 10/100BaseT Ethernet and 56K Modem
Xircom Combo card.  Documentation doesn't say which port it is connected
to, but windows 95 says it's on COM4.  I set it up for ppp but when I
run pon I get:
tcgetattr: Input/output error(5)
What is wrong?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mark.

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possible to partition??

1998-07-08 Thread S K
thanks a lot for all the info on my last posting (win98?  dual boot...).  
but can one partition a hd that already has win98 installed without 
formatting it?  (i think i've tried that with fdisk without success.)  

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Re: laptop - Digital HiNote Ultra 2000

1998-07-08 Thread Mark Phillips

On 7 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ...windows 95 says it's on COM4.  I set it up for ppp but when I
  run pon I get:
  tcgetattr: Input/output error(5)
  What is wrong?
 
 That usually means that there isn't any hardware on that port.  What does
 'setserial /dev/ttyS3' say?

It says:
/dev/ttyS3 UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3

In fact, the only one that registers a known UART is /dev/ttyS0 which says
it is a 16550A.  But I doubt that this is the modem.

What could be wrong?  As I understand it, but modem is a pcmcia card
modem, except that it is built in, but I could be wrong on this.  Perhaps
for some reason the pcmcia driver hasn't recognised it???

Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Re: What's a good video card?

1998-07-08 Thread Shaleh
Well on Alan Cox's web page for TV in Linux he has a pretty GIF that has
the red circle w/ the slash on an ATi logo and specifically states that
until ATi gives out specs their all-in-wonder card will not do anything
more than X.  SO I refuse to support ATi.  And would ask all others to
do the same.  A capitalist society is the purest form of democracy.  You
vote with your money.  I refuse to gve ATi any of mine.


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REPOST: Diald routing (Help!)

1998-07-08 Thread Henrique Almeida
 Hi!
 
 Im using Debian for a year on 2 of my home boxes. One is my workstation
 and the other is a 486. This second box serves the local net with samba
 and internet connection through masquerading and squid.
 
 Last week I upgraded to 2.0 and started to play with diald so my father
 don't have to telnet the gateway every time he wants to do something on
 the net.
 
 Diald is already dialing when it should but the routing table is not
 being updated.
 
 Is there any problem with diald that prevents it from working out of the
 box with Debian? Im using the pon command as the dialer in
 diald.options.
 
 Thanks to all.
 
 BTW.: Sorry about my english. Im not a native speaker. ;^)


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Re: Mail gateway

1998-07-08 Thread jkern
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 10:27:30AM +0100, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:
  What I did was run the smailconfig program and chose option 2.  This 
  allows 
  you to specify the smarthost where all non-local mail is to be 
  transmitted. 
 
  When asked for a smarthost I gave the SMTP server that I get from my ISP.  
  That's what I have at home- is this what you are looking for?  Is this even
 
  the right way to go about it?
  The version I have is Smail-3.2.0.92 1997-Feb-9 #2. (from sendmail -V)

I use the smarthost option; however, the smailconfig program does not
do the job correctly for a typical dial-up isp account.  The resulting
configuration fails when you want to send email to a user on your isp.
You have to edit /etc/smail/config to make that work.

 Does this setup allow Smail to queue all non-local mail, until the link to the
 ISP becomes available? 

Perhaps due to my ignorance, I could only get smail to queue _all_ mail
or queue _none_.  If none, then smail generates an error message
(observe with a mailq) but queues the non-local mail until the system
does a runq.  If all, then all mail is queued until a runq.  The
only apparent difference for non-local mail sent while off-line is the
error message in the queue.

I use the queue_only option since I don't email myself often. :)
runq is executed frequently but only during ppp connections -- system
messages will still get delivered locally.

 How do you allow for the change of return email address when sending non-local
 mail? As wouldn't just setting the return address affect local mail as well. 

The following setup in /etc/smail/config, where klis.com is the domain
of the isp (visible_name), works to give the correct return address so
that replies can be routed through the isp pop-mail server (provided the
user name is the same on both systems -- without the intervention of
additional pop client configuration).  Local mail works fine this way.

queue_only
visible_name=klis.com
more_hostnames=localhost

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Re: Compiling error

1998-07-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
Nuno Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

When I try to compile some C program i got the following message:

   $ cc foo.c
   ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
   $

I already installed libc5-altdev, cpp, libg++27-dev packages and I still
   have this message !

Install libc5-dev then.


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Re: What's a good video card?

1998-07-08 Thread Alan Su
Shaleh wrote (Tue, 07 Jul 1998 21:59:32 -0400 ):
|Well on Alan Cox's web page for TV in Linux he has a pretty GIF that has
|the red circle w/ the slash on an ATi logo and specifically states that
|until ATi gives out specs their all-in-wonder card will not do anything
|more than X.  SO I refuse to support ATi.  And would ask all others to
|do the same.  A capitalist society is the purest form of democracy.  You
|vote with your money.  I refuse to gve ATi any of mine.
|

This is all well and good, but the fact remains that your original
statement (ATI does NOT support Linux or Xfree in ANY way) was
wrong.  This isn't really a black and white issue, and while ATI may
not be the most open-computing-friendly company, I really think there
are many more worthy targets for such boycotts.

As far as the original question goes, I'm running XFree86 on my
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and it works great.  If you're still wary about installing
hamm and opt for bo instead, you may want to upgrade to a later
version of the XFree86 Mach64 server (at least I did when I installed
it...the version being 3.3.2 I think).

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VideoCard

1998-07-08 Thread Rick Smith
Hi 


I was wondering if the Diamond 3D2000 was supported under Linux?

Thanks alot 

Rick



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Re: XF86Setup

1998-07-08 Thread Mark Panzer
Geoff Brimhall wrote:
 
 the problem is a reported bug. The actual problem is that 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled is a soft link which is set incorrectly. The 
 soft link is set to /var/../xkb/, when it should be set to 
 /var/.../xkb/compiled.
 

What would the proper soft link command be?  Would it be:

ln -s /var/lib/xkb/compiled/README /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled   


Sorry I'm kinda new to the soft/hard link thing (I have the basic idea,
it makes two names for one file and hardlinks cannot span separate file
systems).

Mark Panzer

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 3:13 PM
 Subject: Re: XF86Setup
 
 Check /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/compiled for the README file.
 If it's there, you can just copy it /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled.
 I believe this was reported as an error.
 
 On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 04:38:47PM -0500, Mark Panzer wrote:
  Debian users,
 
  When I originally configured X11 I decided to only allow 640 x 480
  resolution for my monitor (an old 14) but I now found out that it can
  do 800 x 600 and I tired to run XF86Setup but it keeps giving me the
  error:
 
  Not all of the X keyboard extension programs and configuration
  files are installed. The file
  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/README is missing.
 
  I find it kinda weird that it all of a sudden is missing a readme file
  (I've run XF86Setup more than once before and never had any problems).
  Thanks in advance.


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Re: VideoCard

1998-07-08 Thread Mark Panzer
Rick Smith wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I was wondering if the Diamond 3D2000 was supported under Linux?
 
Yes it is, I use the standard XF86SVGA driver (S3 works too I think).

Mark Panzer

 Thanks alot
 
 Rick



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tail and grep

1998-07-08 Thread Patrick Olson

when I try tail -f /var/log/messages | grep local  IP

it prints (with a real IP address instead of 123.123.123.123)

Jul  7 20:06:00 server2 pppd[587]: local  IP address 123.123.123.123

on my console.  That's exactly what it should do.  But if I try to
redirect it to a user's file (so he can see what his dynamic IP is) using

tail -f /var/log/messages | grep local  IP  /home/pppusers/dynamic.IP

it does nothing but create a 0 byte file.

Questions:

1. What am I doing wrong?

2. Is there a way I can put this in the background so I don't have to
remain logged in as root?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Debian Package Manager Worthless Junk???

1998-07-08 Thread Paul M. Foster

Debs:

snip
 
 Debian 1.3.1 is a year old.  Six months ago 2.0 was announced as Near
 Completion, when it was nearer inception than completion.
 
 I'm not ragging on the Debian team, just saying lighten up on Red Hat
 a little.  We're all on the same side, eh?  They chose to risk leaping
 before looking, while Debian risked hesitating.  Was the latter more
 prudent?  Maybe.  Are my Debian 1.3.1 systems prehistoric?  Yes.  Is
 that bad?  Sometimes.
 
snip

Is *that* what happened to Red Hat? I've been running 4.2 for a while with
no problems, but have heard nothing but problems regarding 5.0 and 5.1. So
I ordered Debian with the idea that it would be more stable, etc. I
ordered 1.3.1 to get a feel for the distribution before I go for the 
beta 2.0. (Still hasn't arrived yet; hello LSL?) I haven't been able to 
figure out why RH went so wrong when they were doing so well. How can you 
mismanage something like this?

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Re: VideoCard

1998-07-08 Thread Paul M. Foster

Debs/Rick:

 
 I was wondering if the Diamond 3D2000 was supported under Linux?
 

Yes. Under X, use the s3v server. I have one of these and that's what I
use.

Paul M. Foster



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Re: Debian Package Manager Worthless Junk???

1998-07-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Pete Harlan wrote:

 Bob Nielsen writes:
  (To be fair, I haven't used Red Hat since 4.2 and it may have
  improved since then, but they severely mismanaged the conversion to
  glibc.)

 He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones, methinks...

 Debian 1.3.1 is a year old.  Six months ago 2.0 was announced as Near
 Completion, when it was nearer inception than completion.

what an odd opinion.

i've been running hamm on my home machines and desktop box at work since
bo became frozen and hamm became unstable.  that's a good time to flag as
hamm's inception date.  It became good enough for me to trust on
production servers around six months later in September last year. IMO,
hamm was good enough for use by the general public since around Nov or
Dec. 

debian doesn't have the commercial pressures that RH has, so we can
afford to be perfectionist about what we do. i'd rather have it done
right than done hastily.


 I'm not ragging on the Debian team, just saying lighten up on Red Hat
 a little.  We're all on the same side, eh?  They chose to risk leaping
 before looking, while Debian risked hesitating.  Was the latter more
 prudent?  Maybe.  Are my Debian 1.3.1 systems prehistoric?  Yes.  Is
 that bad?  Sometimes.

i don't think bob was attacking RH at all. he was just stating a truth -
RH *did* mismanage the upgrade to glibcas everyone who risked RH5.0
found out.  They should not have released 5.0 in the state it was in.


if pre-historic software is a bigger concern to you than running
pre-release software is, then you could have upgraded to hamm at any
time in the last 6 to 9 months without facing any major problems. you
certainly would have had a better, more stable glibc system than if you
had tried RH5.

what did debian risk by taking the time to do it right? not a lot. a few
impatient users may have chosen to install RH5 rather than wait for hamm
or trial the pre-release version from the ftp site. big deal, like that
really hurts debian a lot.


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Making modem talk 4........................

1998-07-08 Thread phillip Neumann

Hi,

  YES, i (we) made it. My modem is making noises !!! But i bougth my 
modems not to do some noise, but to conect to internet. I have try the 
dip utility, but i dont like it very much. Maybe the problem is not from 
dip (and im almost sure the problem isnt from dip), but when i log to my 
ISP it is extreamly slow. i must wait about 1 minute to write my login 
and password!! How can i resolve this?? And can you recomend me a good 
ppp dialer (i prefer a Xwindow diales) ??


PD: I guess all this (pnp) configuration stuff goes to my soudcard too 
isnt?


 T H A N K S

   Phillip Neumann
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Oh, we're almost there. That's just the info we need. Now, you need to 
create your
/etc/isapnp.conf file. The easiest way to do this is to have the 
pnpdump command
create a template file for you. As root run:

pnpdump  /etc/isapnp.conf

You'll then edit the file. Basically, your modem can be set up with a 
number of
different IO and IRQ values. You just have to tell it which one. 
pnpdump will create
the config file, with all possible values but commented out. You just 
need to
uncomment the right lines (and possible edit the lines a bit) and then 
run
'/etc/init.d/isapnp start'. If you're brave and confident go ahead and 
try this. If
you get muddled with the config file come on back.

Phillip Neumann wrote:

 Hi, again..

 This is getting interesting for me, because i have try to configure 
my
 modem since about 3 weeks, and i couldnt.
 Im my win95 modem prop. said its in COM3. In the Resources tab it 
said
 Input/Output 03E8 and Interrupt Request 05. Im a novice with that
 stuff and im not syre if thats the IRQ and OI.

I hope my modem will work !!

 Thanks , Phillip Neumann, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You wrote:

 Ok, making progress now. Here comes the hard part! You need to 
decide
 which IO address
 and IRQ port your PNP modem should use. In order to make things 
easy,
 let's first
 assume that using the same ones which Win95 assigns will work in 
Linux
 (which will
 most likely be true). In Win95, right-click My Computer and choose
 Properties from
 the popup menu. Now look at the device manager. You should be able 
to
 find your modem
 and see which IO port and IRQ are assigned. Gather this information 
and
 then we'll
 move on.
 
 Phillip Neumann wrote:
 
  Hi again
  Here i am with my computer open. I have see what is in the modem
 board,
  and there said com 1, com2, com3, com4, PNP, so i guess its a 
PNP
  modem. I have install the isapnptool package. I still cant make my
 modem
  do some noise !!! (dialing something in minicom)
 
  Thanksm for great help, Phillip Neumann
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  You wrote:
 
  Your modem is most likely Plug-N-Play. In order to initialize
  Plug-N-Play
  devices you
  need the isapnp package. Use dselect to install this package. 
You'll
  then need
  to
  customize the /etc/isapnp.conf file. Try to verify whether or not
 your
  modem is
  Plug-N-Play and get back to us.
 
  phillip Neumann wrote:
 
   Hi debian users,
  
  Im just starting with linux, and have done some configuration
  stuff.
   But i cannot still make my modem talk   I guess the first
 step
  to
   do, is dial a number with minicom. I cant even do this. 
Windows95
  said,
   my us. robotics 33.6k is in COM 3. So I have tried the 
/dev/ttyS2
  port;
   nothing hapened. I have try all the other ports, and nothing. 
What
  sould
   i do to make debian dial something ??
   (im using Hamm)
  
   this is going on in my system my system:
  
   -- Before debian ask me my name:
 Bla, bla
 Configuring serial portsfailed...
   Trying to load the serial module manually...
 Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
 tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
   Succses.. retrying configuration...done
 /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 Bla, bla
   
  
   -- setserial /dev/ttySX auto_irq autoconfig -v, where X go from 
0
 to
  3:
  
messages:
/dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
/dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
/dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4
/dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3
  
Thanks for shearing your knoledgment,
  
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1998-07-08 Thread ej
Assuming that win98 is on one partition which takes up your entire
drive (which I assume you mean), you need a partitioning program which
can resize partitions.  AFAIK Partition Magic is the only one which
will do this.

On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 06:21:20PM -0700, S K wrote:
 thanks a lot for all the info on my last posting (win98?  dual boot...).  
 but can one partition a hd that already has win98 installed without 
 formatting it?  (i think i've tried that with fdisk without success.)  
 
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Re: tail and grep

1998-07-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 08:28:37PM -0700, Patrick Olson wrote:
 when I try tail -f /var/log/messages | grep local  IP
 
 it prints (with a real IP address instead of 123.123.123.123)
 
 Jul  7 20:06:00 server2 pppd[587]: local  IP address 123.123.123.123
 
 on my console.  That's exactly what it should do.  But if I try to
 redirect it to a user's file (so he can see what his dynamic IP is) using
 
 tail -f /var/log/messages | grep local  IP  /home/pppusers/dynamic.IP
 
 it does nothing but create a 0 byte file.
 
 Questions:
 
 1. What am I doing wrong?
 2. Is there a way I can put this in the background so I don't have to
 remain logged in as root?

tail -f will run forever; output to the file won't be flushed until you've
written a certain amount to the file -- one line obviously isn't enough.
The screen on the other hand is flushed immediately. I suspect you don't
really need the -f for tail, especially if you are just running this
from the ip-up script or something.

You can run any program in the background by putting an  on the end.

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Re: kernel canot find map file

1998-07-08 Thread fantomas
- My kernel has complained cannot find map file for as long as I've
- used it, but it seems to run fine anyway. I just saw your advice to copy
- /src/linux/System.map to /boot/System.map-ver so I tried it. The kernel
- boot message is unchanged. I then renamed it /boot/System.map  but the boot
- message still says cannot find map file. It really doesn't seem to matter
- but I'm trying to learn what I can. Should the kernel find it?  (It's 2.0.25
-  on Debian 1.1).  Thanks.

hmmm try look at /etc/init.d/sysklogd:

#  Use KLOGD=-k /boot/System.map-$(uname -r) to specify System.map
#
#KLOGD=-k /boot/System.map-$(uname -r)

uncomnent the last line
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GIMP seems to have hung SCSI bus??

1998-07-08 Thread Matt Thompson
Ok, here's a weird one:  I started GIMP today, and while it was trying to
load a plug-in, my Zip started spinning non-stop.  I did a ps alx to see
if I could find the process causing it, and there didn't seem to be one.
So I unplugged my Zip, plugged it back in, then tried to mount it, and it
wouldn't. I have done this before, even removing my Zip to take it to
work, and it mounted just fine after reconnecting, but not this time.  I
did another ps alx and saw the mount /zip command, so I tried to kill it
and couldn't (it's still there).  So I tried to mount my /syjet which is
on the same scsi chain, and couldn't do that either.  Now I have both
mount /zip and mount /syjet hanging as processes that can't seem to be
killed.  I tried -2 -3 -6 and -9, and even killall -9 mount, and nothing
would kill those two processes.

I could just reboot, but I shouldn't have to, should I?  Besides:

$ uptime
 11:53pm  up 13 days,  1:22,  6 users,  load average: 2.00, 1.83, 1.12

...I don't really want to stop now. :)

Any help you can give would be *much* appreciated.

Oh, yeah, FWIW, the plugin was whiptail (I think).

TIA,
Matt


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Re: Making modem talk........................

1998-07-08 Thread Mike Merten
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 02:05:10PM -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
 Your modem is most likely Plug-N-Play. In order to initialize Plug-N-Play 
 devices you
 need the isapnp package. Use dselect to install this package. You'll then 
 need to
 customize the /etc/isapnp.conf file. Try to verify whether or not your modem 
 is
 Plug-N-Play and get back to us.
 
 

Also, make sure your USR is a Sportster, or such and not a Winmodem...

Mike


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Re: IP address printing w/ LPRng

1998-07-08 Thread Waldemar Żurowski
Hello,
I just have one question -- when I print to LaserJet with lp (from
lprng package) command, it seems it didn't use spool directory. In
other words, when I do:

$ lp somefile.ps

lp waits until it sends whole file to the printer, instead to put the
file into queue. How to change it?

Thank you in advance,
  Waldemar Żurowski


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Re: dir /s *.* equivalent for unix.

1998-07-08 Thread joost



 On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 08:56:29AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
 
  How do you build the database for man -k? On the systems I've installed(RH, 
  I'm
  currently waiting for Bo to arrive) man-k wouldn't bring up any entries.

Have a look at the mandb(8) manpage.

Cheers,


Joost


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Where configuration is stored on Debian systems

1998-07-08 Thread joost


On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a reply to an installation question you said (in part) With Debian
 you With Debian you only have to keep a minimum of configuration data
 stored on a couple of floppies to completely rebuild a working system
 from scratch. 
 
 Is there a list somewhere of what those configuration data are?

/etc and everything below that is a good candidate.  In Debian all
packages are supposed to put their configuration data in (subdirectories
of) the /etc directory.

/var has theoretically only dynamic data, but some of that may be quite
valuable nevertheless; /var/www for instance is where (most) apache
configurations store webpages.  IIRC bind puts DNS data in /var/named.  If
you keep important mail in your inbox instead of saving it to a mail
folder, it's probably in /var/spol/mail/$USER

Of course, I left out user home directories, as they (should) contain no
data that is critical to rebuild a working system.  It greatly depends on
the user how many floppies you'd need to back up that data.

Cheers,


Joost



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Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!

1998-07-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Shaleh wrote:

 What is running / not running at the time of the crash.  The ^@ could
 indicate a daemon overflowing its buffer -- it could be a symptom or a
 cause.

sounds more like a symptom to me. i've seen that lots of times after
crashes - my guess is it's a result of fsck allocating the remainder of
a block to the logfile or something like that.

 When I run Netscape and Enlightenment 13.3 I occasionally have this
 happen.  Seems that NS does some things that eventually torque off E
 and X.

netscape does weird shit. i've had it take down my X session a few times
and occasionally (rarely) lock up the whole machine.  what do you expect
from commercial/closed-source software? :-(  

unfortunately, netscape is much better than any alternative - too bad
it's so badly written.

craig

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Firewallsetup

1998-07-08 Thread johannes . tyve
My goal is to setup a firewall to protect my subnet like this:

Internet
|
Cisco router(192.12.120.254)
|
Local net 192.12.120.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
|
FIREWALL eth0 = 192.12.120.190, eth1 = 192.12.120.202
|
Protected subnet 192.12.120.200 netmask 255.255.255.252

This worked fine when I used masqurading and a fake net (192.168.2.0)
but not when I try to use real IP addresses and a subnet. This is the
firewall setup:

(outside)
eth0:
IP = 192.12.120.190
Netmask = 255.255.255.0
Network = 192.12.120.0
Broadcast = 192.12.120.255
Gateway = 192.12.120.254

(inside)
IP = 192.12.120.202
Netmask = 255.255.255.252
Network = 192.12.120.200
Broadcast = 192.12.120.203
Gateway = 192.12.120.190

Routing table:
Dest.   GatewayGenmask
192.12.120.200  *255.255.255.252 eth1
192.12.120.0*255.255.255.0eth0
127.0.0.0   *255.0.0.0   lo
default  192.12.120.0   *   eth0

I have tried to turn on arp and promiscus mode but that doesn´t help.
I'm able to ping both the Internet, localnet, and subnet from the
firewall. I'm able to ping the firewall (both addresses) from a host on
the subnet. Using tcpdump I see that when I ping a host from the subnet
to the local net then traffic I forwarded out but not back to the host
on the local net. My ipfw config is set to accept all traffic.

Anyone, please?

/Regards Johannes


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Fw: Problem setting interrupt and address on network adaptor for NC2501-3 Accton Lanstation

1998-07-08 Thread riaad


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Problem setting interrupt and address on network adaptor for
NC2501-3 Accton Lanstation
 Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 11:12 AM
 
 Hi There !!!
 
 
 First of all I would like to introduce myself to you as Riaad Isaacs.
 I am employed by POS INTERNATIONAL in CAPE TOWN SOUTH AFRICA which
 distributes your ACCTON Lanstation 586 MMX / PDA 2000 / NC2501-3.
 
 I would like to bring it to your attention that I was unable to change
the
 existing network card settings from Base address 6200 and interrupt 11 to
 anything else.
 
 I have been getting endless request from our clients to solve this
problem.
 
 PLEASE;PLEASE;PLEASE can you help 
 
 THIS IS REALLY VERY VERY VERY URGENT
 
 Thanking you in anticipation.
 
 
 
 Yours sincererly
 
 
 Riaad Isaacs
 Technician
 POS INTERNATIONAL ( Cape Town)
 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Problems with apt

1998-07-08 Thread Daniel Mashao
On a bo system, the only available perl is version 5.003. There is no .deb
for version 5.004 unlike for Hamm which has this version. 

Apt-get requires version 5.004. 

Question:
How can I install version 5.004 which requires libc6 (Hamm) on a
libc5 (bo) if I want to upgrade to Hamm using apt.



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Plattencrash - /var weg?

1998-07-08 Thread Dirk Luetjens
Hi,

mir ist gestern waehrend eines Backup die Platte gestorben. Leider war das
/var Verzeichnis noch nicht gesichert. (/var Verzeichnis lag auf der
defekten Platte, das restliche System auf einer anderen). Folglich sind
alle Verzeichnisse in /var und damint auch die Debian Datenbanken weg. Wie
kann ich jetzt das System wieder hochziehen, ohne die restliche
Konfiguration aus /etc zu verlieren.

1.) /etc sichern, neu installieren, /etc drueber kopieren
2.) Wie auch immer eine Neuinstallation ueber den vorhanden Daten starten.
Hier stellt sich die Frage, wie auf dem System
vorhandene Konfigurationsfiles erkannt werden. Ueber die Datenbank,
oder ueber einen Verglich der Konfigfiles aus dem Paket mit einem
vermeindlich vorhandenen auf der Platte?

Any ideas?

Dirk

P.S. Sorry wenn die mail zweimal ankommt. Die Stabilitaet des Systems ist
empfindlich gestoert und es kommt immerwieder zu unerwarteten Coredumps.
Wie auch waehrend des Abschickens der Vorgaengermail.



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Re: What's a good video card?

1998-07-08 Thread Marsh Ray

*-Shaleh ( 7 Jul)
|
| price range.  As a general comment I say avoid Diamond.  For a long time
| they have not supported any form of driver for their cards (even their
| Windows support is not all that great).

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Didn't this occur around 3 or 4 years ago?

Yes, but . . .
To this day we still don't have working Win95 drivers
for their Speedstar Pro VL product.  Our company received
several of these in new computers.  If they're going to abandon
their own products, my company will not be purchasing any more
of them.

Story goes they got into a finger-pointing contest with
Microsoft and Cirrus Logic over who should write the drivers.

- Marsh



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Re: I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!

1998-07-08 Thread Maarten Bezemer


On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Shiraz Sayani wrote:

 Thomas Apel wrote:
  
  [...]
 
  Just for the record: I also got this beanie-baby-thing twice the last
  month. But not from AOL. The first was from msn.com and the second from
  fuse.net. But as Somnolent already said I'm not 100% sure if this is
  somehow related to this list.
  
 
 Yep. It's probably an occupational hazard of using the net these days.
 
 I only mentioned it here as I couldn't think of how else the B!*%!$ds
 got my mail alias; I haven't posted anything else with this alias.

I'm sure my address was from one of my postings to this list, as I have an
account that's only for this list. Before that, I had the list-mail going
right into my own inbox, but after some days off I had to dig all through
my inbox of several hundreds of emails to see if there was something not
coming from the list... :-)
But sometimes I ask a question from my 'normal' account, and guess what: I
received the beanie stuff on both accounts... So if it's up to me I'd say
my addreses were taken from the list (or this list on usenet)

 
 So far, I've had 4 (from/subjects later if you're not interested)

Hmm.. strange, I had only the beanie one from msn.com (with strange, very
strange headers... received from A by B, received from C by B, etc)


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Re: tail and grep

1998-07-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Patrick Olson wrote:

 when I try tail -f /var/log/messages | grep local  IP
 
 it prints (with a real IP address instead of 123.123.123.123)
 
 Jul  7 20:06:00 server2 pppd[587]: local  IP address 123.123.123.123
 
 on my console.  That's exactly what it should do.  But if I try to
 redirect it to a user's file (so he can see what his dynamic IP is) using
 
 tail -f /var/log/messages | grep local  IP  /home/pppusers/dynamic.IP
 
 it does nothing but create a 0 byte file.
 
 Questions:
 
 1. What am I doing wrong?
 
 2. Is there a way I can put this in the background so I don't have to
 remain logged in as root?

i think you've got the wrong solution to the problemin other words,
there are better ways of doing what you want.

why not do this in /etc/ppp/ip-up (or /etc/ppp/ip-up.d if you are
running hamm)?

add lines like these to /etc/ppp/ip-up:

DYNFILE=/tmp/dynamic.IP

# first, delete the file just in case some evil user has it symlinked 
to 
# a system file (like /etc/passwd or /bin/bash):

rm -f $DYNFILE

echo $4 $DYNFILE
chmod a+r $DYNFILE

if this is for a dialin user (and not for a local console user who
you've given ppp dialout access to) then you probably need to find out
what their home directory is and put the dynamic.IP file in there.

try something like this instead:

USER=`w | grep $1 | awk '{print $1}'
DYNFILE=/home/$USER/dynamic.IP

rm -f $DYNFILE

echo $4 $DYNFILE
chown $USER $DYNFILE
chmod a+r $DYNFILE

(note: these sh script fragments are untested.  use as a guideline only.
don't expect them to work as is. RTFM and understand what it does before
you trust any random code posted by a complete stranger on a mailing list)


the /etc/ppp/ip-up script is passed the following parameters from pppd when
the connection is established.  that is where the $1 and $4 above come
from.

# This script is called with the following arguments:
#Arg  Name   Example
#$1   Interface name ppp0
#$2   The ttyttyS1
#$3   The link speed 38400
#$4   Local IP number12.34.56.78
#$5   Peer  IP number12.34.56.99

there's also a 6th argument for recent (hamm only, i believe) versions of
pppd.  i have no idea what it's for.


#$6   Optional ``ipparam'' valuefoo


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Re: Fw: Problem setting interrupt and address on network adaptor for NC2501-3 Accton Lanstation

1998-07-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  First of all I would like to introduce myself to you as Riaad
  Isaacs.  I am employed by POS INTERNATIONAL in CAPE TOWN SOUTH
  AFRICA which distributes your ACCTON Lanstation 586 MMX / PDA 2000 /
  NC2501-3.
 
  I would like to bring it to your attention that I was unable to
  change the existing network card settings from Base address 6200 and
  interrupt 11 to anything else.

you haven't really given much information about what the problem is, so
i'm going to make a few guesses.

if it's on io address 0x6200 then it's probably a PCI card. if it's a PCI
card, then the only reason i can think of why you'd want to change the io
(or more likely, the IRQ) is because you have an old ISA card which can't
be changed on that ioport/irq

if this is the case, then the best thing to do is to reboot the machine,
go into the bios, and set IRQ 11 to Legacy ISA rather than PCI PNP.
This will prevent the BIOS from allocating that IRQ to a PCI card.

then reboot linux. you may (but probably wont) have to change your
/etc/modules or /etc/conf.modules line telling linux the new IO address
or IRQ of your network card. 

most PCI card drivers in linux auto-detect the io address and IRQ so you
probably wont have to make any software changes.  if this is not the case
for your accton card (i've never heard of them before so have no idea what
they are like), then you can type cat /proc/pci to get a listing of pci
cards, and what IRQ they are using. 


hope this helps.


  I have been getting endless request from our clients to solve this
  problem.
 
  PLEASE;PLEASE;PLEASE can you help 
 
  THIS IS REALLY VERY VERY VERY URGENT
 
  Thanking you in anticipation.


craig


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Re: Firewallsetup

1998-07-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My goal is to setup a firewall to protect my subnet like this:
 
 Internet
 |
 Cisco router  (192.12.120.254)
 |
 Local net 192.12.120.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
 |
 FIREWALL eth0 = 192.12.120.190, eth1 = 192.12.120.202
 |
 Protected subnet 192.12.120.200 netmask 255.255.255.252
 
 This worked fine when I used masqurading and a fake net (192.168.2.0)
 but not when I try to use real IP addresses and a subnet. This is the
 firewall setup:
 
 (outside)
 eth0:
 IP = 192.12.120.190
 Netmask = 255.255.255.0
 Network = 192.12.120.0
 Broadcast = 192.12.120.255
 Gateway = 192.12.120.254
 
 (inside)
 IP = 192.12.120.202
 Netmask = 255.255.255.252
 Network = 192.12.120.200
 Broadcast = 192.12.120.203
 Gateway = 192.12.120.190

you've got mismatched netmasks on the internal subnet and the external
subnet. they won't be able to communicate with each other through the
firewall/gateway box because all the machines on eth0 think that they
have a full /24 (class C), and that 192.12.120.202/255.255.255.252 is on
the local eth0 ethernet, not routed through the fw box.

i'm not sure if i'm explaining this very clearly.

from the nature of the mistake you've made, i think you need to read
up on tcp/ip and on building firewalls before building one. subnetting
isn't that difficult but it's easy to make mistakes if you don't
understand how it works.

unless you've got a good reason not to, stick with using private
addresses (192.168.2.0) for your internal networkthat makes building
the firewall purely a routing and ipfw problem, and avoids the hassle of
calculating netmasks. 

if necessary (e.g. for accounting purposes), you can even route between
your external net and your internal 192.168.2.0 netbut then your
internal network can be reached if hosts on your external net are
compromised. security policies are always a tradeoff between convenience
vs. security.


 I have tried to turn on arp and promiscus mode but that doesn´t help.
 I'm able to ping both the Internet, localnet, and subnet from the
 firewall. I'm able to ping the firewall (both addresses) from a host
 on the subnet. Using tcpdump I see that when I ping a host from the
 subnet to the local net then traffic I forwarded out but not back
 to the host on the local net. My ipfw config is set to accept all
 traffic.

yes, that sounds consistent with messing up the subnetting. it's not
an ipfwadm or a routing problem, you have subnetted your IP space
incorrectly.


craig

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HELP: Setting up TeTeX

1998-07-08 Thread Max Lawson
Hi, 

I'm running Debian GNU/Linux 1.3.1 and have installed a few weeks 
ago, the Tetex package. 

This morning, before going to job, I've tried to run 'xdvi' on a file
and obtain this:


kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK cmti10 600 600 1+0/600 
kpsetool: psfonts.map not found.
MakeTeXnames: Could not map source abbreviation  for cmti10.
MakeTeXnames: Need to update /fontname/special.map?
mkdir: cannot make directory `fonts': Permission denied
/usr/bin/MakeTeXmkdir: could not create directory //fonts
MakeTeXPK: could not mkdir /fonts/pk/ljfour/unknown/unknown.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
xdvi: Can't find font cmti10.
kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK cmsy10 600 600 1+0/600 
kpsetool: psfonts.map not found.
MakeTeXnames: Could not map source abbreviation  for cmsy10.
MakeTeXnames: Need to update /fontname/special.map?
mkdir: cannot make directory `fonts': Permission denied
/usr/bin/MakeTeXmkdir: could not create directory //fonts
MakeTeXPK: could not mkdir /fonts/pk/ljfour/unknown/unknown.
xdvi: Can't find font cmsy10.
kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK cmmi10 600 600 1+0/600 
kpsetool: psfonts.map not found.
MakeTeXnames: Could not map source abbreviation  for cmmi10.
MakeTeXnames: Need to update /fontname/special.map?
mkdir: cannot make directory `fonts': Permission denied
/usr/bin/MakeTeXmkdir: could not create directory //fonts
MakeTeXPK: could not mkdir /fonts/pk/ljfour/unknown/unknown.
xdvi: Can't find font cmmi10.
kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK cmmi7 600 600 1+0/600 
kpsetool: psfonts.map not found.
MakeTeXnames: Could not map source abbreviation  for cmmi7.
MakeTeXnames: Need to update /fontname/special.map?
mkdir: cannot make directory `fonts': Permission denied
/usr/bin/MakeTeXmkdir: could not create directory //fonts
MakeTeXPK: could not mkdir /fonts/pk/ljfour/unknown/unknown.
xdvi: Can't find font cmmi7.
kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK cmr10 600 600 1+0/600 
kpsetool: psfonts.map not found.
MakeTeXnames: Could not map source abbreviation  for cmr10.
MakeTeXnames: Need to update /fontname/special.map?
mkdir: cannot make directory `fonts': Permission denied
/usr/bin/MakeTeXmkdir: could not create directory //fonts
MakeTeXPK: could not mkdir /fonts/pk/ljfour/unknown/unknown.
xdvi: Can't find font cmr10.
kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK cmr7 600 600 1+0/600 
kpsetool: psfonts.map not found.
MakeTeXnames: Could not map source abbreviation  for cmr7.
MakeTeXnames: Need to update /fontname/special.map?
mkdir: cannot make directory `fonts': Permission denied
/usr/bin/MakeTeXmkdir: could not create directory //fonts
MakeTeXPK: could not mkdir /fonts/pk/ljfour/unknown/unknown.
xdvi: Can't find font cmr7.
kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK cmr5 600 600 1+0/600 
kpsetool: psfonts.map not found.
MakeTeXnames: Could not map source abbreviation  for cmr5.
MakeTeXnames: Need to update /fontname/special.map?
mkdir: cannot make directory `fonts': Permission denied
/usr/bin/MakeTeXmkdir: could not create directory //fonts
MakeTeXPK: could not mkdir /fonts/pk/ljfour/unknown/unknown.
xdvi: Can't find font cmr5.
xdvi.bin: Not all pixel files were found


Are some environment variables missing ? 

I've had a look at the installation directories and everything 
seems to be there (though I've noticed that I don't have the 
MakeTeXls-R script in a bin-directory!)

What shall I do ?

After the xdvi experiment, I've tried to run a 'latex': nothing 
happens and it was due to missing base file(s) ? 

Was late, therefore, I didn't take the time to investigate further.

Thanx in advance.

Regards, Max


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Re: REPOST: Diald routing (Help!)

1998-07-08 Thread Randy Edwards
  Diald is already dialing when it should but the routing table is not
  being updated.

   I've had the same problem.  Somewhere (either a HOWTO or a Linux Journal 
article) I
found advice about setting the routing manually.  This is what I'm doing now.

   In /etc/ppp/ip-up (the script) I put a
route del default
route add default $1
   in just above the run-parts line.  This forces the default route to be made.

   Similarly, in /etc/ppp/ip-down I do a
route del default
route add default gw 207.140.8.1 metric 1
   also just before the run-parts command (perhaps that should be below it).
207.140.8.1 is just my ISP's gateway IP number.

   Once doing this, this cleared up all of my diald routing problems.

  Is there any problem with diald that prevents it from working out of the
  box with Debian? Im using the pon command as the dialer in
  diald.options.

   I found that using pon in /etc/diald/diald.options caused the link to 
disconnect
after 30-60 seconds or so.  I had to adopt a more conventional script which 
uses just
chat and which doesn't call pppd.

   But I agree.  So many people rely on diald it should work more seamlessly 
with
pppd.  This is an area which many people want to use, but one which is 
frustrating for
newbies (and even semi-newbies like myself;-).

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autoup.sh + deselect broke emacs

1998-07-08 Thread Edward J. Young


I have upgraded from 1.3.1 to hamm with some difficulty, but feel like
I'm getting there. My latest problem is that when invoking emacs from a
console, I get segmentation fault, and no emacs. 

I don't believe that emacs was upgraded during the deselect process so I
suspect that the version I had (v19.34.?) requires the old libc, though I
realy don't understand the issues here.

How do I rectify this?  By running deselect and upgrading Emacs. I'm loath
to try that since emacs is huge and a download would be epic, but if
absolutely necessary I will. 

If it matters, My upgrade went like this: 
-autoup.sh
-deselect with ACCESS UPDATE, INSTALL (No SELECT)
-several more iterations of INSTALL since the first ones resulted in
 brokenly uninstalled packages. 
-dselect and running SELECT to get X running (but that's another
 posting...)

Now deselect reports no brokenly installed packages and I believe that all
the necessary packages are now installed. 

So again, how do I fix emacs? 

Thanx in advance. 

Ed
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Re: tail and grep

1998-07-08 Thread Ted Harding
On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Patrick Olson wrote:
 when I try tail -f /var/log/messages | grep local  IP
 
 it prints (with a real IP address instead of 123.123.123.123)
 
 Jul  7 20:06:00 server2 pppd[587]: local  IP address 123.123.123.123
 
 on my console.  That's exactly what it should do.  But if I try to
 redirect it to a user's file (so he can see what his dynamic IP is) using
 
 tail -f /var/log/messages | grep local  IP  /home/pppusers/dynamic.IP
 
 it does nothing but create a 0 byte file.
 
 Questions:
 
 1. What am I doing wrong?

The reason the redirection doesn't work as expected is that tail -f doesn't
send EOF, so although /home/pppusers/dynamic.IP gets opened the buffer doesn't
get flushed, so the file doesn't get written to.

Cheers,
Ted.


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bo - hamm details

1998-07-08 Thread fantomas
Hello,

someone said autoup.sh will remove *-dev packages etc. 
is there any way to upgrade to hamm w/o this ? if I just set up dselect to
download from hamm directories and I'll start installing packkages, will
that be enough ? 

Thanks.
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[Debian] installing multiple PC's

1998-07-08 Thread Nico De Ranter

Hi,

I need to install a number of PC's with an identical (or allmost)
setup.  However, I don't want to have to choose the packages I want
to install every time again.  So I'm thinking of creating a 
iso9660 CD-ROM from the harddisk on one PC and then using the 
rescue disk to create a fs on the other PC's and just copy the
contents of the CD to those PC's.  Afterwards changing the hostname
of the name should be enough to have it up and running in the network
I figure.

However I'm not sure how to make an image of my initial harddisk.
If I simple create an iso9660 image using makeisofs I will probably
loose permissions, ownership and the /dev and /proc directories
wright?  Using tar should fix the permissions and ownership but I'm
still not sure what will happen with /dev and /proc.

Does anybody have any idea how to do this?

Thanks in advance,

Nico

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Re: What's a good video card?

1998-07-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Adam Klein hat gesagt: // Adam Klein wrote:

 I'm about to buy a new computer, and I'd like a recommendation for a
 mid-range ($100-$150) video card that works well with XFree86.
 
   Thanks,
   Adam Klein

I do like cards with the NVidia RIVA 128 chip like Diamond Viper, STB Velocity
or Elsa Erazor. (Yes, Elsa is supporting the XFree project) 
Vipers are really inexpensive and VERY fast under X. And they make QuakeII look 
great under Win95 if that is important to you ...

By the way: Is there any SVGATextmode and SVGAlib support for Riva chips? 
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Re: Problems with apt

1998-07-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jul 08, 1998 at 11:44:14AM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote:
 On a bo system, the only available perl is version 5.003. There is no .deb
 for version 5.004 unlike for Hamm which has this version. 
 
 Apt-get requires version 5.004. 
 
 Question:
   How can I install version 5.004 which requires libc6 (Hamm) on a
 libc5 (bo) if I want to upgrade to Hamm using apt.

1. Use the HTTP method, which doesn't use perl.
2. Grab perl 5.004 from the bo-unstable directory at the mirror sites.


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Re: [Debian] installing multiple PC's

1998-07-08 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Wed, Jul 08, 1998 at 02:21:35PM +0200, Nico De Ranter wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I need to install a number of PC's with an identical (or allmost)
 setup.  However, I don't want to have to choose the packages I want
 to install every time again.  So I'm thinking of creating a 
 iso9660 CD-ROM from the harddisk on one PC and then using the 
 rescue disk to create a fs on the other PC's and just copy the
 contents of the CD to those PC's.  Afterwards changing the hostname
 of the name should be enough to have it up and running in the network
 I figure.

Sounds like a plan :)

 However I'm not sure how to make an image of my initial harddisk.
 If I simple create an iso9660 image using makeisofs I will probably
 loose permissions, ownership and the /dev and /proc directories
 wright?  Using tar should fix the permissions and ownership but I'm
 still not sure what will happen with /dev and /proc.
 
 Does anybody have any idea how to do this?

yes...this sounds like you want to do basically what I do with
my tape drive every time I back up.
Try this (note: if anything you want is on a differnt mounted
partition from / then it must be separatly included)

tar clvf filename  /

then either make an iso9660 image or...
I think with linux CD writting tools you can just burn the file right onto the 
device...
thne you could tar xvf /dev/cdromdevice
as for /dev and /proc
this will copy /dev properly...but not proc...fortunatly thats what you
want... you don't need to copy ANYTHING from /proc/

as an alternative... you can (if you have a network) put this ina  directory
and get it through the network.
Tom's Unix On a FLoppy root-boot disk supports many ethernet cards and all
sorts of utilities (all sorts as in...I don't believe how muhc he got
on 1 floppy)
you can get it from:
http://www.clark.net/~toehser/

-Steve


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Re: bo - hamm details

1998-07-08 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Wed, Jul 08, 1998 at 02:14:29PM +0200, Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote:
 Hello,
 
 someone said autoup.sh will remove *-dev packages etc.

yes it will
 
 is there any way to upgrade to hamm w/o this ? if I just set up dselect to
 download from hamm directories and I'll start installing packkages, will
 that be enough ? 

Yikes no don't do that!
I mean..there isa chance that it will work...but a slim slim one
in fact AFAIK chances are much better you will get burned.

I THINK if you get the bo version of apt and point it at hamm...then just
apt-get dist-upgrade it might be able to do it right...
(I have used dist-upgrade 2 times in the last 2 weeks...once to go up to
latest hamm..then to goto unstable (slink)...even over a modem it works well)

IMHO autoup.sh is the way to go...
once you have hamm up and running..THEN worry about getting the dev packages
back. I mean...the old dev packages and old libraries are ALL not hamm
compatible...so they would need to be replaced anyway

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Re: Weird crash with dhcpcd and X11

1998-07-08 Thread Mark H. Mabry
 Brandon == Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote the following on Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:14:50 -0400 (EDT)

  Brandon On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Mark H. Mabry wrote:
   Running Debian 2.0beta and 2.0.34 with a cable-modem.  I'm in the
   process of converting from modem ISP access to using this
   cable-modem.
   
   I get a complete lock-up of Linux when I try to run both X11 and
   dhcpcd.  I can run either one alone and things are fine.  But
   when I start X, after dhcpcd, I see the X server spew stuff to
   the screen, then the screen blanks, and SILENCE.  No X, no hard
   disk activity, nothing.

  Brandon Maybe a hardware problem.  Check for irq conflicts with
  Brandon your ethernet card.

Thanks!  I believe that you are correct.  As soon as I read your
message, it rang true.  

Proving it wasn't as easy, though.  Looking in /proc/interrupts didn't
show any problem, because it didn't show my graphics card's (Riva 128
AGP) interrupt even when X was running.  Since I dual boot Win95 I
took a look there.  It showed that my ethernet card and my video card
share the same interrupt (IRQ 11).  Then I search DejaNews with the
new info and found people who had the exact ethernet card (3C905) and
video card and were having the same problem.  They suggesting moving
the ethernet card to a different PCI slot.

It was disappointing to see that Win95 can effectively share IRQ11 but
Linux cannot.  

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Re: IP address printing w/ LPRng

1998-07-08 Thread Brian Morgan
Jim:

Could you repost that message you sent yesterday?  My windows machine went 
crazy last
night and said I had 4,000+ messages this morning (mostly duplicates).  I then 
went a
little crazier, and just started deleting left and right, and somehow 
accidentally deleted
your last message.  Thanks,

Brian

Brian Morgan wrote:

 I've redone my printcap file to read:
 lp1|12.10.35.3|Remote printer entry:\
 :lp=:\
 :rm=12.10.35.3:\
 :rp=text:\
 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/12.10.35.3:\
 :mx#0:\
 :sf:\
 :sh:
 Shouldn't that lp line read lp=/dev/lp1:\   ???
 I also modified my hosts.lpd file to include 12.10.35.3
 I also created the 12.10.35.3 spool directory in /var/spool/lpd (anything I 
 need to do
 with that?)
 I still have 2 lpd print spooling services starting up when I boot my machine.
 Shouldn't that be changed?
 After all the changes, I've tried printing using
 cat [filename]  /dev/lp1
 and nothing happens.

 Lewis, James M. wrote:

  Brian,
 
  Those things have 2 printer names configured.  They are text and
  raw.  The text one adds cr when it sees an lf and the raw one does
  not.  I don't know if there is a way to make new printer names for
  those things.  You might telnet into it to see if you can.
 
  Umm, I just checked one and you don't seem to be able to change the
  printer names...
 
  Second to last line needs a :\.  You might also try using a null
  entry for the device.  My printcap looks like this:
 
  lp1|rm164_hp|Remote printer entry:\
  :lp=:\
  :rm=rm164_hp:\
  :rp=raw:\
  :sd=/var/spool/lpd/rm164_hp:\
  :mx#0:\
  :sf:\
  :sh:
 
  You have to make sure the spool directory exists.  You also have to
  have an entry in the hosts file or dns for the name in the rm= entry.
  You can also use an ip-addr.  Depending on your situation, one usually
  works better than the other.  For places that have a bunch of printers, the
  dns entry makes life easier.  You can swap out hardware and change
  the dns entry without having to change a bunch of servers hosts files
  (or printcap files).  Doing it with dns is a pain if you only have one
  or two servers/workstations (like a home network)...
 
  I'm using lpr, not lprng, but they should work the same.
 
  jim
 
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  I posted some questions about printing to an ip address earlier.  Thanks
  for those who have helped so far.
 
  More questions:
 
  I'm running hamm, 2.0.33 and LPRng print spooling package.  I'm trying
  to print to
  an HP laserjet through a jetdirect card with an ip address.
 
  I've edited my /etc/printcap file to look like this:
  rlp|Remote printer entry:\
  :lp=/dev/lp1:\
  :rm=12.10.35.3:\
  :rp=debian test printer:\
  :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\
  :mx#0
  :sh:
 
  Does that look right so far?  Are the :\ marks correct?  They weren't in
  the file origianally, but I added them from a Unix machine's example.
 
  Also, on startup, it appears that there are 2 lpd print spoolers started
  since I installed the LPRng package.  This doesn't seem right.  What can
  I do about it?
 
  In /var/spool/lpd directory, I have the following directories and files:
 
  lp lp1 lpd.lock.debian.printer
  Shouldn't there be an rlp directory?  I created the lp1 directory.  Is
  that right?
  In the lp directory, the status.lp file contains many /dev/lp1 cannot
  connect errors
 
  I've modified the /etc/hosts.lpd file to include 2 computers that I want
  to be able to connect to the printcap file.  Is there a way to set this
  so all computer can connect, and not just a limited few?
 
  From what I've indicated here, is there anything else I need to do to be
  able to print?  Any permissions I need to check out, esp. in the spool
  directory?  Make your answers as simple as possible, because I'm still
  fairly new at this.
 
  Thanks for your help,
 
  Brian
 
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MCA support?

1998-07-08 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
Does the upcoming distribution support Micro Channel installations?

On the MCA Linux page, at 
http://glycerine.itsmm.uni.edu/mca/
is made the statement that the next debian should include MCA
support.  Is it?

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Re: REPOST: Diald routing (Help!)

1998-07-08 Thread Chea Prince

i'm having the same problem with slirp/ppp connection (connection gets
dropped).  pon scripts log in OK and slirp starts up but LCP negotiation
fails with error message No Network Protocols Running

tried disabling 'defaultroute' and adding the default route myself before
running pon, but doing 'route add default ppp0' results in message: 

SIOCADDRT:  Operation not supported by device

on another machine running an older version of linux (1.2/2.0.27) and
older version of ppp (2.2.0f) adding and deleting the default route
with 'route add/del default ppp0' works as it should and updates the
routing table.  any ideas about what's causing the error message above?

TIA--chea

  Diald is already dialing when it should but the routing table is not
   being updated.
 
I've had the same problem.  Somewhere (either a HOWTO or a Linux Journal 
 article) I
 found advice about setting the routing manually.  This is what I'm doing now.
 
In /etc/ppp/ip-up (the script) I put a
 route del default
 route add default $1
in just above the run-parts line.  This forces the default route to be 
 made.
 
Similarly, in /etc/ppp/ip-down I do a
 route del default
 route add default gw 207.140.8.1 metric 1
also just before the run-parts command (perhaps that should be below it).
 207.140.8.1 is just my ISP's gateway IP number.
 
Once doing this, this cleared up all of my diald routing problems.
 
   Is there any problem with diald that prevents it from working out of the
   box with Debian? Im using the pon command as the dialer in
   diald.options.
 
I found that using pon in /etc/diald/diald.options caused the link to 
 disconnect
 after 30-60 seconds or so.  I had to adopt a more conventional script which 
 uses just
 chat and which doesn't call pppd.
 
But I agree.  So many people rely on diald it should work more seamlessly 
 with
 pppd.  This is an area which many people want to use, but one which is 
 frustrating for
 newbies (and even semi-newbies like myself;-).
 
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Re[2]: I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!

1998-07-08 Thread Bob Bernstein
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 I haven't received that spam, but my guess is it may not be targeted at
 you (do you think an AOL user can manage it?) 

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Re: GIMP seems to hang SCSI Bus

1998-07-08 Thread Matt Kopishke
Whoa, never, ever, ever, un plug a SCSI device while the system has
power, I saw a machine get fried doing this!  Reboot, and see if things
work, and rember to shutdown your system next time! 

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RE: dual boot?? win98???

1998-07-08 Thread Richard Pemberton

Hi,
I am duel booting win98 and linux using IBM's boot manager (and lilo, and
loadln) my had is partitioned fat32 for win 98, one 400mb fat 16 partition
(for sharing files between win and linux)and then the usual linux
partitions.

I find it works great.

But to begin with i suggest using loadln, to exit win and boot into linux,
it is the simplest option, with no possability of screwing u your hd.

Rick

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 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: dual boot?? win98???


 i'm trying to install debian linux, but not entirely ready to throw away
 my windows 98.  is it possible to use both on a single machine, perhaps
 through dual boot?  (if so, how?)  does win98's fat32 cause any trouble
 for this?

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RE: What's a good video card?

1998-07-08 Thread Richard Pemberton
I am running a mystique 2 4mb, is damn fast, with both windows and Xfree86,
it is a good fast 2d card.

BUT

It does not support a lot of the lower VESA2 resououtions (eg 400x300), this
will not cause any problems with linux, but in dos\windows stuff it can be a
real sh*t. - especially with games and PC-Demos (not game demos) - and
scitech dd only just helps to recitfy this problem some of the time - ie
hardly ever.

some programs have difficulty accesing the liner farme buffer, and hence
hang the machine. (again not linux specific)

its direct X, 3D accel. is naf, again not a problem with linux.

despite ati's refusal to release info, i believ the rage pro series do run
Xfree, the windows drivers are ok - the new drivers will be very welcome
tho. direct X 3D accel is very damn good, and full vesa 2 support.

Rick

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 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: What's a good video card?


 I'm about to buy a new computer, and I'd like a recommendation for a
 mid-range ($100-$150) video card that works well with XFree86.

   Thanks,
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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-08 Thread tko
Jaakko Niemi writes:
 
  Jaakko Niemi writes:
   
Jaakko Niemi writes:
 
  All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, 
  the secondary
  IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen 
  shows the IDE
  primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to 
  boot. How can
  I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary 
  IDE bus?
 
  Does the BIOS find your CD ? 
 

Yes, The BIOS does properly identify the CDrom Drive. Funny thing , 
now that I
think about it, is that Win95 could not see the secondary IDE bus or 
the CDROM
drive until I loaded a driver under Win95 (supplied by the MB 
manufacturer).
Perhaps the registers for the secondary IDE bus are sufficiently 
different
from the norm that a special driver is needed.
   
That's a reeaally old 95 'buglet' that it did not recognize the 
   secondary IDE
channel on Intel chipsets and at worst disabled it entarily. 
   
If you do a cat /proc/interrupts , do you see int. 15 allocated to ide1 
   there?
  
  NO, only IDE0 is present. A stand-alone PCI bus probe program would come in
  handy right about now 8-)
 
  Hmm. if the cd works fine in 95, you might want to check the relevant kernel
  settings. What is the chipset used with that mb ? TX? Do you have any pnp 
  cards ?

Kernel settings? I'll have a look at it since I compile my own kernel. You may
have hit on something with the chipset - Intel 430TX PCIset with PCI Bus
Master IDE controller. I do have PNP cards on the PCI bus, but all of them
are recognized and initialized properly. If I upgrade the kernel to 2.0.34, do
you think that might fix this situation?

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Re: Missing (files)

1998-07-08 Thread tko
Brandon Mitchell writes:
 
 On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Syed Huq wrote:
 
  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/stable/disks-i386/current/
  
  All the files are there except base14-1.bin ... base14-6.bin. Instead of
  these, I see the files base-1.bin ... base-5.bin.
  
  Q1)Should I download the base-1.bin ... base-5.bin instead of the missing
  base14-1.bin ... base14-6.bin ? My floppy drive is 1.44MB.
 
 ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/disks-i386/current/
 It's not stable yet.  I think the instructions need a little touch up.
 
  I intend to buy a Debian CD and install from there. What was not clear in
  the 'Installing Debian Linux 2.0' documentation is if I still need to
  use all the floppies mentioned in section6.1 or are all these files for a 
  floppy installation only.
 
 I guess this may be considered a bit confusing (it's hard to tell when
 you've done it several times).  If you have the cd, all of these files
 will be one it.  You will need the resc1440 and drv1440 disks.  root 
 isn't needed for 1.44 disks, and you only need the tecra for goofy
 laptops.  You can mount your cdrom and access base2.0.tgz from there.  Ok,
 I guess it is a little confusing.  The nice thing about the cd is that you
 can do a 0 floppy install by clicking on the install.bat if you have dos. 
 Also, newer systems can boot from the cdrom, acheiving the same effect. 
 

True, but in the wacky world of win9x and laptops, a 0 floppy install might
not be possible. I just installed Debian on a Compac laptop. The system came
pre-loaded with Win95. The problem was that the DOS mode lacked the proper
CDrom driver. Thanks to the floppy install available with Debian, I was able
to tame that wrascly wabbit and get a decent operating system on board.

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Re: autoup.sh + deselect broke emacs

1998-07-08 Thread Edward J. Young


I should mention that in the deselect screen, there are headings for
packages that are headed as obsolete, one being emacs. Does this mean
what I think: that emacs 19.34.? is now obsolete because I've upgraded
around it and now it needs upgrading too? Probobly. 

There are some other packages labeled obsolete as well. 

How should this be handled? 


One other question:
Where can I get a CD in the Denver area? I would order a CD of 2.0 but it
seems to still be in a state of flux and I don't want to have a CD which
may or may not have a fully stable Debian system. 

Thanx, 

Ed

On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Edward J. Young wrote:

 
 
 I have upgraded from 1.3.1 to hamm with some difficulty, but feel like
 I'm getting there. My latest problem is that when invoking emacs from a
 console, I get segmentation fault, and no emacs. 
 
 I don't believe that emacs was upgraded during the deselect process so I
 suspect that the version I had (v19.34.?) requires the old libc, though I
 realy don't understand the issues here.
 
 How do I rectify this?  By running deselect and upgrading Emacs. I'm loath
 to try that since emacs is huge and a download would be epic, but if
 absolutely necessary I will. 
 
 If it matters, My upgrade went like this: 
 -autoup.sh
 -deselect with ACCESS UPDATE, INSTALL (No SELECT)
 -several more iterations of INSTALL since the first ones resulted in
  brokenly uninstalled packages. 
 -dselect and running SELECT to get X running (but that's another
  posting...)
 
 Now deselect reports no brokenly installed packages and I believe that all
 the necessary packages are now installed. 
 
 So again, how do I fix emacs? 
 
 Thanx in advance. 
 
 Ed
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RE: MCA support?

1998-07-08 Thread Richardson,Anthony

I don't know about the next version (hamm) but did you
know that the current version (bo) already includes
MCA support? It works beautifully on my PS2 Model 85
(386 with 11 MB RAM and 2 GB IDE HD and ATAPI CDROM.) I
just needed to use a couple of boot options so the
kernel could find my disk controller. (I use
the ARCO MCA IDE controller.)

Tony Richardson

 -Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 9:14 AM
To: Debian-user
Subject: MCA support?

Does the upcoming distribution support Micro Channel installations?

On the MCA Linux page, at
http://glycerine.itsmm.uni.edu/mca/
is made the statement that the next debian should include MCA
support.  Is it?

Alan Davis


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Re: autoup.sh + deselect broke emacs

1998-07-08 Thread Chea Prince

i had the same thing happen and i had selected to upgrade emacs to
20.xx...made a mess.  it was the only really broken package.
had been wanting to check out xemacs so ended up purging emacs and
installing xemacs-20.whatever and like it.  anyway, suspect you will need
to purge emacs and do a clean install.  i had to abandon dselect and use
dpkg to remove emacs, then ftp'd xemacs packages and used dpkg to
install them. 

best--c
  
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Edward J. Young wrote:

 
 
 I should mention that in the deselect screen, there are headings for
 packages that are headed as obsolete, one being emacs. Does this mean
 what I think: that emacs 19.34.? is now obsolete because I've upgraded
 around it and now it needs upgrading too? Probobly. 
 
 There are some other packages labeled obsolete as well. 
 
 How should this be handled? 
 
 
 One other question:
 Where can I get a CD in the Denver area? I would order a CD of 2.0 but it
 seems to still be in a state of flux and I don't want to have a CD which
 may or may not have a fully stable Debian system. 
 
 Thanx, 
 
 Ed
 
 On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Edward J. Young wrote:
 
  
  
  I have upgraded from 1.3.1 to hamm with some difficulty, but feel like
  I'm getting there. My latest problem is that when invoking emacs from a
  console, I get segmentation fault, and no emacs. 
  
  I don't believe that emacs was upgraded during the deselect process so I
  suspect that the version I had (v19.34.?) requires the old libc, though I
  realy don't understand the issues here.
  
  How do I rectify this?  By running deselect and upgrading Emacs. I'm loath
  to try that since emacs is huge and a download would be epic, but if
  absolutely necessary I will. 
  
  If it matters, My upgrade went like this: 
  -autoup.sh
  -deselect with ACCESS UPDATE, INSTALL (No SELECT)
  -several more iterations of INSTALL since the first ones resulted in
   brokenly uninstalled packages. 
  -dselect and running SELECT to get X running (but that's another
   posting...)
  
  Now deselect reports no brokenly installed packages and I believe that all
  the necessary packages are now installed. 
  
  So again, how do I fix emacs? 
  
  Thanx in advance. 
  
  Ed
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Re: Making modem talk 4........................

1998-07-08 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Right, well, it goes to your PNP ISA devices anyway. For an ISP dialer perhaps 
you
could try xisp. I use diald myself. About the slowness, perhaps you are just 
running
at a low serial rate. Make sure when you run comm programs your serial speed is
115200. The default on the port if you don't specify it is probably 9600. Good 
luck.

phillip Neumann wrote:

 Hi,

   YES, i (we) made it. My modem is making noises !!! But i bougth my
 modems not to do some noise, but to conect to internet. I have try the
 dip utility, but i dont like it very much. Maybe the problem is not from
 dip (and im almost sure the problem isnt from dip), but when i log to my
 ISP it is extreamly slow. i must wait about 1 minute to write my login
 and password!! How can i resolve this?? And can you recomend me a good
 ppp dialer (i prefer a Xwindow diales) ??

 PD: I guess all this (pnp) configuration stuff goes to my soudcard too
 isnt?

  T H A N K S

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Re: strange lock up problem

1998-07-08 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 Hello, just started with this list so hope this msg gets there.
 
 I ahve a pII/266 system with 256MB RAM, 4 IDE hard disks, and 1 4.3GB SCSI
 and 1 23GB SCSI disk, onboard AIC7888 SCSI controller, 3c905 card, floppy
 drive, (can't remember which chipset we are using on this board).
 
 Running low loads 0.2 or so, using httpd 1.2.6 apache (not a package).
 
 Randomly it will print
 AIEE: scheduling in interrupt
 multiple times on the screen and lock up to the point where power down/
 power up is required.
 
 Any thoughts are welcome.  If this is a motherboard issue, I'd be more
 than appreciative for recommended board for this speed CPU.

 Check that you don't have something else using the same irq that 
 the scsi adapter uses. Also this might be a kernel bug, which
 version are you running ?

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Re: Weird crash with dhcpcd and X11

1998-07-08 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Mark H. Mabry wrote:

  Brandon == Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote the following on Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:14:50 -0400 (EDT)

   Brandon On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Mark H. Mabry wrote:
Running Debian 2.0beta and 2.0.34 with a cable-modem.  I'm in the
process of converting from modem ISP access to using this
cable-modem.
   
I get a complete lock-up of Linux when I try to run both X11 and
dhcpcd.  I can run either one alone and things are fine.  But
when I start X, after dhcpcd, I see the X server spew stuff to
the screen, then the screen blanks, and SILENCE.  No X, no hard
disk activity, nothing.

   Brandon Maybe a hardware problem.  Check for irq conflicts with
   Brandon your ethernet card.

 Thanks!  I believe that you are correct.  As soon as I read your
 message, it rang true.

 Proving it wasn't as easy, though.  Looking in /proc/interrupts didn't
 show any problem, because it didn't show my graphics card's (Riva 128
 AGP) interrupt even when X was running.  Since I dual boot Win95 I
 took a look there.  It showed that my ethernet card and my video card
 share the same interrupt (IRQ 11).  Then I search DejaNews with the
 new info and found people who had the exact ethernet card (3C905) and
 video card and were having the same problem.  They suggesting moving
 the ethernet card to a different PCI slot.

 It was disappointing to see that Win95 can effectively share IRQ11 but
 Linux cannot.

Ah, but Mark both these cards are PCI. Interrupts are almost always shared for
PCI cards. PCI actually has its own interrupt levels A, B, C,  D. Actual
IRQ(s) is (are) assigned at runtime. Unlike ISA, PCI was designed to allow the
sharing of interrupts and provides an easy way to identify which device issued
the interrupte. Linux handles this just fine. The problem must have to do with
Linux getting confused about the devices since it isn't aware that your RIVA
128 exists. Switching the slots the cards are in might work indeed.

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diskcrash - /var gone, was: Re: Plattencrash - /var weg?

1998-07-08 Thread Dirk Luetjens
Hello,

On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 I would politely ask you to pose your question in english as this is an
 english-language list.
Oh, I´m sorry. This message should have gone to the german debian user
list.

Nevertheless, the problem was, that after a diskcrash my /var directory
was gone. I was asking how to reinstall the system without doing a full
reinstall. 

I have solved it by 

1.) making a backup of the /etc directory
2.) installing the base system via the rescue floppies
3.) got a list of installed packages from /usr/doc/* directories.
4.) set the list with dpkg --set-selections
5.) and finally reinstalled everything.

Now I´m in the state of fixinig a few problems left over, but the system
is up und stable again.

Dirk


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RE: Firewallsetup

1998-07-08 Thread johannes . tyve
  My goal is to setup a firewall to protect my subnet like this:
  
  Internet
  |
  Cisco router(192.12.120.254)
  |
  Local net 192.12.120.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
  |
  FIREWALL eth0 = 192.12.120.190, eth1 = 192.12.120.202
  |
  Protected subnet 192.12.120.200 netmask 255.255.255.252
  
  This worked fine when I used masqurading and a fake net 
 (192.168.2.0)
  but not when I try to use real IP addresses and a subnet. 
 This is the
  firewall setup:
  
  (outside)
  eth0:
  IP = 192.12.120.190
  Netmask = 255.255.255.0
  Network = 192.12.120.0
  Broadcast = 192.12.120.255
  Gateway = 192.12.120.254
  
  (inside)
  eth1:
  IP = 192.12.120.202
  Netmask = 255.255.255.252
  Network = 192.12.120.200
  Broadcast = 192.12.120.203
  Gateway = 192.12.120.190
 
 you've got mismatched netmasks on the internal subnet and the external
 subnet. they won't be able to communicate with each other through the
 firewall/gateway box because all the machines on eth0 think that they
 have a full /24 (class C), and that 
 192.12.120.202/255.255.255.252 is on
 the local eth0 ethernet, not routed through the fw box.
 
 i'm not sure if i'm explaining this very clearly.
 
 from the nature of the mistake you've made, i think you need to read
 up on tcp/ip and on building firewalls before building one. subnetting
 isn't that difficult but it's easy to make mistakes if you don't
 understand how it works.
 
 unless you've got a good reason not to, stick with using private
 addresses (192.168.2.0) for your internal networkthat 
 makes building
 the firewall purely a routing and ipfw problem, and avoids 
 the hassle of
 calculating netmasks. 
 
 if necessary (e.g. for accounting purposes), you can even 
 route between
 your external net and your internal 192.168.2.0 netbut then your
 internal network can be reached if hosts on your external net are
 compromised. security policies are always a tradeoff between 
 convenience
 vs. security.
 
Thanx Craig.

I do need (I think) to use real IP addresses because I need to have
multiple web-servers (accessible from the Internet) inside the firewall
that should be protected. I thought it was possible to tell my fw box to
route all trafic between the two subnets. Is it possible to route eg
192.12.12.202 to a host on the private network eg 192.168.2.202? 

Other solutions how to protect just a part of my C-net?

Best regard
Johannes.


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Re: diskcrash - /var gone, was: Re: Plattencrash - /var weg?

1998-07-08 Thread Will Lowe
 2.) installing the base system via the rescue floppies
I've several times managed to hose my /etc directory,  once while trying
to install a tape drive so I could back the same directory up ...

I generally install the base system onto a spare partition and copy the
/etc directory from it into the bunged-up one.   This lets me get the
system to boot ok (but most of the software doesn't work),  so then I can
boot up,  fix the network by hand,  and let dselect update ALL of the
packages on the system.

 3.) got a list of installed packages from /usr/doc/* directories.
should be possible to do this with dpkg --get-selections,  which can of
course then just be redirected into a file:
dpkg --get-selections  filename
and then
dpkg --set-selections  filename

Will


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Re: autoup.sh + deselect broke emacs

1998-07-08 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Edward J. Young wrote:

 
 
 I should mention that in the deselect screen, there are headings for
 packages that are headed as obsolete, one being emacs. Does this mean
 what I think: that emacs 19.34.? is now obsolete because I've upgraded
 around it and now it needs upgrading too? Probobly. 
 
 There are some other packages labeled obsolete as well. 
 
 How should this be handled? 

I don't know about emacs (not installed here), but any installed packages
not listed in a Packages file are displayed as obsolete/local.  This
only means that these packages are not part of the current distribution.

I have several of these, such as apt, pine (the old pre-compiled version), 
my custom kernel-image, etc.  Not to worry.

Bob


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Fw: REPOST: Diald routing (Help!)

1998-07-08 Thread Russ Cook
I too have had difficulty with ppp and diald since upgrading.  With the
help of
Linux The Complete Reference I have edited my network and ppp scripts so
that pon
now connects and sets up my route correctly, and I can connect to the W95
machine
on my lan.  However, diald does not make a connection.  It dials, connects
for
about 30 seconds, then the line disconnects.

I too was wondering if pon could be called by diald, since pon does work. 
Has anyone
done this successfully?

Thanks,
Russ

Russell Cook, Engineering Branch
WSR-88D Operational Support Facility
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 Subject: Re: REPOST: Diald routing (Help!)
 Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 6:44 AM
 
   Diald is already dialing when it should but the routing table is not
   being updated.
 
I've had the same problem.  Somewhere (either a HOWTO or a Linux
Journal article) I
 found advice about setting the routing manually.  This is what I'm doing
now.
 
In /etc/ppp/ip-up (the script) I put a
 route del default
 route add default $1
in just above the run-parts line.  This forces the default route to be
made.
 
Similarly, in /etc/ppp/ip-down I do a
 route del default
 route add default gw 207.140.8.1 metric 1
also just before the run-parts command (perhaps that should be below
it).
 207.140.8.1 is just my ISP's gateway IP number.
 
Once doing this, this cleared up all of my diald routing problems.
 
   Is there any problem with diald that prevents it from working out of
the
   box with Debian? Im using the pon command as the dialer in
   diald.options.
 
I found that using pon in /etc/diald/diald.options caused the link
to disconnect
 after 30-60 seconds or so.  I had to adopt a more conventional script
which uses just
 chat and which doesn't call pppd.
 
But I agree.  So many people rely on diald it should work more
seamlessly with
 pppd.  This is an area which many people want to use, but one which is
frustrating for
 newbies (and even semi-newbies like myself;-).
 
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What should I mirror?

1998-07-08 Thread Fernando Fernandez
Hi!

I have a private mirror of debian in one of our servers so that I
can install/update a machine fast with the *latest* versions.

The problem is that I have not much disk space and I would like
to keep the mirrored files to a minimum. With my current mirror
configuration I seem to be mirroring two copies of hamm, one
in /hamm and other in /dists/hamm. 

Are these directories both necessary? What is the minimum to have
a Debian 2.0 full mirror?

Thanks in advance,

Fernando


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xemacs-20 HTML mode

1998-07-08 Thread Paul Reavis
Sometimes the HTML mode in xemacs will allow the omission of closing
tags
(/p, for example), indenting correctly. Sometimes it doesn't. It seems
like it just flips and flops between updates to my installation. This is
under hamm.

For example, when it works the way I want it to, it autoindents like
such:

h1top header/h1
pSome stuff here.

h2next header/h2
ul
lian item.
lianother item.
/ul

And when it doesn't I get:

h1top header/h1
pSome stuff here.

h2next header/h2
ul
lian item.
lianother item.
/ul

Or similar - basically, it doesn't undent unless there's a closing tag.

I tried the various option settings - OMITTAG, omit tag transparent,
etc.
No soap.

I also get this message when I C-x html-mode:

External entity html not found
  Public identifier -//IETF//DTD HTML//EN

What does it all mean?

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RE: What's a good video card?

1998-07-08 Thread Lars Steinke
A brilliant card for Xfree and a real steal at the moment is the
Xpert series from ATI: The XFree support is fab - all res, acceleration
features, most color depths (apart from 24 bit, that is) are supported
with 230MHz RAMDAC. Only drawback: No SVGAlib support (hardly any of the
new chips have...)

It's a very good card for DOS/Win9X gaming as well and features DVD
support (not in LinUX...). Win9X drivers are stable and performant, MPEG
decoding looks extremely well. Makes it a brilliant allround card -
lightning fast 2D, pretty decent 3D performance with high quality !
Have a look at http://www.angelfire.com/ca/rchau/ and
http://www.xfree86.org for more infos...

Personally I am running the [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 8MB SGRAM, there is also the
cheaper little brother, Xpert98, same RagePro chip but EDORAM I
think (and no TV-out, which is a bit pointless with LinUX anyway, as
it's certainly not the premier gaming platform, yet)...

Regards,

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Re: diskcrash - /var gone, was: Re: Plattencrash - /var weg?

1998-07-08 Thread Dirk Luetjens
hello,

  3.) got a list of installed packages from /usr/doc/* directories.
 should be possible to do this with dpkg --get-selections,  which can of
 course then just be redirected into a file:
 dpkg --get-selections  filename
 and then
 dpkg --set-selections  filename

Ok, I haven´t tired it, but how can dpkg get the selectons, when the /var
directory is missing? All invocations of dpkg -i or deselect didn´t worked
due to the msising directory.

Thanks for your answer

Dirk


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RE: Firewallsetup

1998-07-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   (outside) eth0:  IP = 192.12.120.190 Netmask = 255.255.255.0
   Network = 192.12.120.0 Broadcast = 192.12.120.255 Gateway =
   192.12.120.254
  
   (inside) eth1:  IP = 192.12.120.202 Netmask = 255.255.255.252
   Network = 192.12.120.200 Broadcast = 192.12.120.203 Gateway =
   192.12.120.190
 
  you've got mismatched netmasks on the internal subnet and the
  external subnet. they won't be able to communicate with each
  other through the firewall/gateway box because all the machines
  on eth0 think that they have a full /24 (class C), and that
  192.12.120.202/255.255.255.252 is on the local eth0 ethernet, not
  routed through the fw box.

 Thanx Craig.

 I do need (I think) to use real IP addresses because I need to have
 multiple web-servers (accessible from the Internet) inside the
 firewall that should be protected. I thought it was possible to
 tell my fw box to route all trafic between the two subnets. Is it
 possible to route eg 192.12.12.202 to a host on the private network eg
 192.168.2.202?

you must have misunderstood what i said (not surprising, because i didn't
explain it very well)

you *can* use 192.12.20 addresses on both sides of the firewall (i.e.
internal and external), as long as they are subnetted properly. this
generally means splitting the net into two or more equally sized
subnets.

for example... 

  two subnets: .0-127 and .128-255, or
 four subnets: .0-63, .64-127, .128-195, and .196-255, or
eight subnets: .0-31, .32-63, .64-96, ..., and .224-255

note it is possible to run more than one subnet on a single ethernet
segment. for example, you could run .0-63, .64-.127, .128-.195 on eth0
and .196-.255 on eth1, as long as you always remember that eth0 actually
had three subnets on it and not just one network. the three eth0 subnets
would only be able to communicate with each via a router (i.e. your
firewall box)...they are completely separate networks even if they
happen to be on the same cable segment!




what you can't do is just take a chunk out of the middle of a net, stick
it on the other side of a firewall and expect that it will work.

(actually, if you're careful and know what you are doing you might be
able to fake it by publishing arp entries for each of the hosts that
'belong' on eth0 but are actually physically located on eth1. possible,
but tricky and complicated and easy to mess up. this is the sort of
thing that evolves - mutates is more accurate - into an undocumented
nightmare)


 Other solutions how to protect just a part of my C-net?

one idea that occurs to me is that you could connect your firewall box
directly to the cisco router (use a cross-over 10baseT cable or coax),
and use 192.168.x address for that network segment. all of your hosts
could then be on 192.12.120.0/24. use ipfwadm firewall rules to protect
specific hostsor protect them all (default policy deny) and use
allow rules to unprotect certain hosts/ports.


something like this:

   192.168.1.0
   +--+ 
   |  |
   |  |eth0
+-+  +-+
inet  :cisco:  :linux:
+-+  +-+
  |eth1
  |
  +--.
   192.12.120.0/24 segment (your hosts)

it would simplify things if your ISP could allocate you an IP address
for the cisco's internet (isdn??) interface. your ISP would route
your /24 net to your cisco, and your cisco would know to route it to
the linux box. the linux box would apply firewall rules to filter out
undesirable connections.

it would simplify things even further if you could replace the cisco
with an ISDN card for your linux box. that's assuming your internet
connection is ISDN, of course. if it's some other connection type it may
be worth your while finding out whether linux supports it.

craig

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Rescue Disk

1998-07-08 Thread timothy
Ok, I've never done this before, so can someone guide me thru the process of
making a Debian boot/rescue disk. And explain how to use it in the event that
my normal bootloader partition gets fried.
Thanks!
Timothy
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where in the world is /usr/bin/rpc.bootparamd?

1998-07-08 Thread Hilton Fernandes
Hello!

I'm installing Debian Linux 1.3.1 the hard way, package by package, floppy by
flloppy.  Yes, i'm a masochist! :-)  But it is very instructive, since i have
never installed any Linux in my life. :-( The PC i'm trying to do this is a
dusty 486, w/o any network connections and w/o a CD-ROM.

I'd like to make it run LAM MPI, a message-passing environment for workstation
networks, in single node mode.  LAM MPI needs some TCP/IP services that i
tried to provide with the packages netbase and netstd.  The fact is it
complains about a missing /usr/bin/rpc.bootparamd.  Since i couldn't find it in
any package, i guess it is in the installation packages; possibly a misinformed
answer to an installation question prevented from being installed.  However, i
don't know which is the package that rpc.bootparamd belongs to, and wouldn't
like to install everything again, for obvious reasons. :-)

So, my two questions are: 

1) is the above exposition true?  Does rpc.bootparamd really lie in some base
package that belongs to the installation?  

2) how can i install it w/o having to reinstall everything i have in my dusty
and trusty 486 computer?

BTW two hurrahs for Debian Linux: 

1) Debian is really easy to install.  Maybe even easier than Windows 95.  And
has more intelligent installer, i'm sure. 

2) The dusty and trusty 486 was not a good computer to run Win95, but it had 
its revival: it runs Linux very fast!

I thank you in advance!


Regards,
--Hilton


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Xserver lockup with Mystique

1998-07-08 Thread pjo
Hi,
I am having and have had problems running XF86s 
xserver on a Matrox Mystique. 

The problem is this :
Either the xerver is started by startx or xdm.
Xserver starts,  I log in. I open  and close
a couple of xterms. Fine. Do a bit of cd to
various directories. Fine.
I get advanced,  I do ls in various directories
it might work or the xserver locks up denying
me keyboard and mouse and text stops scrolling
in xterms. After rebooting I find no errors in
/var/log section. X -probeonly returns nothing
strange. I implement isapnp for all things on my 
soundcard. No help there.

A variation on the problem on the lockup
is that ls seems to work. I put it to test
by zcat /usr/doc/HOWTO/*
which most definitely kills my xserver.

Clarification, at lockups I see a still picture
of the X environment unable to leave with
ctrl alt  F1 F2 etc

In debian stable 1.2 I noticed that
my programs kept running in such cases since
my harddrive was accessed and when rebooting
when harddrive finished. My output data files
are complete.  I have not tried this with Debian2.0

I leave things be buy myself 2  other pci cards
(mpeg  and a vodoo2 I run win95 with no problems).
Decide to upgrade bios in motherboard and mystique
to latest versions. I upgrade to Debian 2.0.
Nothing has changed. Right now I run a non-modified kernel
2.0.34 after having a 2.0.30 both custom and not.


What is wrong ? How can I trace the problem ?
X -probeonly, xdm-errors shows nothing of interest.


Anxiously waiting for som help.

Thanx so far for your interest.

Greetings from Stockholm !!

Pjo

Per Olsson
e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

p.s.
Below from /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device  19, function  0:
Multimedia video controller: 3Dfx Voodoo2 (rev 2).
  Fast devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfb00.
  Bus  0, device  17, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: Matrox Mystique (rev 2).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 11.  Master Capable.  
Latency=32.  
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xffbec000.
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xff00.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfe00.
  Bus  0, device  15, function  0:
Multimedia video controller: Unknown vendor VXP524 (rev 0).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 10.  Master Capable.  
Latency=32.  
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xffe0.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  1:
IDE interface: Intel 82371SB PIIX3 IDE (rev 0).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  
  I/O at 0xffa0.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
ISA bridge: Intel 82371SB PIIX3 ISA (rev 1).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  No bursts.  
  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
Host bridge: Intel 82441FX Natoma (rev 2).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  




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repost: RE:XF86Setup

1998-07-08 Thread Mark Panzer
Sorry for the repost but none of my e-mail went out last night!!!

Geoff Brimhall wrote:
 
 the problem is a reported bug. The actual problem is that 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled is a soft link which is set incorrectly. The 
 soft link is set to /var/../xkb/, when it should be set to 
 /var/.../xkb/compiled.
 

What would the proper soft link command be?  Would it be:

ln -s /var/lib/xkb/compiled/README /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled   


Sorry I'm kinda new to the soft/hard link thing (I have the basic idea,
it makes two names for one file and hardlinks cannot span separate file
systems).

Mark Panzer


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RE: Firewallsetup

1998-07-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I do need (I think) to use real IP addresses because I need to have
 multiple web-servers (accessible from the Internet) inside the
 firewall that should be protected. I thought it was possible to tell
 my fw box to route all trafic between the two subnets.

route, no.  redirect or masquerade or proxy traffic, yes.

 Is it possible to route eg 192.12.12.202 to a host on the private
 network eg 192.168.2.202?

you could use redir or ipportfw or rinetd or similar programs to
transparently redirect connections to a certain host:port to another
machine.

e.g. set up an ip_alias on the linux box for 192.12.120.202, and then
configure one of the above programs to redirect/proxy/masquerade all
port 80 (www) connections for that IP address to 192.168.2.202

this may be your simplest solution.

all of the above mentioned programs are available as debian packages.
read the documentation for all of them to see which best suits your
needs. they are all in hamm. i think only redir was available for bo.

(i haven't used any of them, i only know of their existence...not the
details of how to configure them)


craig

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Re: What package has patch?

1998-07-08 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 02:46:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It is in the patch package (a fact other people already pointed out), and it
  has nothing special to do with perl at all. Perl is a script programming
  language, patch a development tool. 
 
 There is a relation: they were both conceived by Larry Wall.  
 
 That's still no reason to but them in one Debian package of course :-) 
Hello Joost!

Thank you for this nice information. I apologize for my dumbness :)

Really, this info is why I love the Debian lists!

Greetings,
Marcus

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RE: autoup.sh + deselect broke emacs

1998-07-08 Thread Young, Ed


Ok, I'm still confused...

Emacs? Not part of the current distribution? This is alarming. 

I'm not sure what you mean by not to worry since the upgrade has broken
Emacs and now it is catagorized as obsolete meaning it is not part of the
current distrubution. 

I'm certain that there must be a way to fix emacs in hamm. Is it by using
Deselect, and just selecting it for upgrade? (a loathsome download
nightmare). 

Perhaps I should get a clue on the use of dpkg or apt since it seems most on
this list avoid deselect in favor of dpkg if only one package is to be
installed, emacs in this case. 

Ed

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 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Nielsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 9:01 AM
 To:   Edward J. Young
 Cc:   debian list
 Subject:  Re: autoup.sh + deselect broke emacs
 
 On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Edward J. Young wrote:
 
  
  
  I should mention that in the deselect screen, there are headings for
  packages that are headed as obsolete, one being emacs. Does this mean
  what I think: that emacs 19.34.? is now obsolete because I've upgraded
  around it and now it needs upgrading too? Probobly. 
  
  There are some other packages labeled obsolete as well. 
  
  How should this be handled? 
 
 I don't know about emacs (not installed here), but any installed packages
 not listed in a Packages file are displayed as obsolete/local.  This
 only means that these packages are not part of the current distribution.
 
 I have several of these, such as apt, pine (the old pre-compiled version),
 
 my custom kernel-image, etc.  Not to worry.
 
 Bob
 
 
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RE: pon troubles

1998-07-08 Thread Wandersmann
Thanks, John, for such a quick and pointed reply. Yes, I'm running pon as root. 
I don't know what minicom is, and as far as I can tell I don't yet have it on 
my system. I'll get back to you once I have downloaded it.

'setserial -a /dev/ttyS2' gave me this:

/dev/ttyS2, Line 2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
Flags: spd_normal skip_test

I also tried setserial -a /dev/ttyS0:

/dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
Flags: spd_normal skip_test session_locked

and setserial -a /dev/ttyS1:

/dev/ttyS1, Line 1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
Flags: spd_normal skip_test session_locked

setserial -a /dev/ttyS3 was similar, although without the skip_test and 
session_locked flags.

Incidentally, if you could take a moment to explain to me what UART, IRQ, and 
the session_locked flag all signify, that would be great.

One other thing: As far as I can tell from the Win95 modems ctrl panel, my 
modem is actually two modems. The first is a Game  Data Line on COM3; that's 
the one I have been trying to access through linux. The second is a Voice  
Fax Line on COM5, which I have been unable to access through linux; every 
reference I make within linux to /dev/ttyS4 gives me back a not found error, 
which I have taken to mean that linux can't see more that four ports.

Thanks again,

W

 Yet when I try pon, no luck. =
 plog tells me the following:

  pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
  tcgetattr: input/output error (5)
  Exit.

 Type 'setserial -a /dev/ttyS2' and send me the output.

 You are running 'pon' as root. right?

 Can you dial out with minicom?
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 Dancing Horse Hill
 Elmwood, WI



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