Re: KDE
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Melkor wrote: Prueba, utilizando dpkg -i desde la shell, instalando primero las qt y despues los paquetes de Kde. Si lo haces en el orden correcto, que descubriras con tanteo, no deberias tener ningun problema. qt, kdesupport, kdelibs y a partir de ahí da lo mismo el orden. -- Los sueños no se descubren hasta que uno despierta (Abre los ojos) David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX - Linux 2.0.34 Linux Registered User no. 87069 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc
Re: La memoria se me empeta
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Antonio Castro wrote: No se si la culpa es de un swap demasiado chico: 32 Mb de swap y 64Mb RAM. Temas de micro no creo que sean pues dispongo de un PII 400. Tu swap es enana. Pon 150Mb de swap. Eso me parece una salvajada. Yo tengo XFree 3.3.2, con el servidor SVGA, 64 Mb RAM y también 32 de swap. Arranco las X, Netscape 4.07 y StarOffice 5.0 (con todo lo que pesa) y no pasa nada. Sí, tira un poco de swap pero no caen las X. Ah, y si cargo una imagen pesada en el Gimp tampoco cae. -- Los sueños no se descubren hasta que uno despierta (Abre los ojos) David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX - Linux 2.0.34 Linux Registered User no. 87069 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc
Configuracion de xfree86
Tengo una targeta S3Trio 64+ y un monitor SVGA del cual no tengo los datos. Al configurar xfree86 lo he hecho con el controlador S3 y ahora no puedo ver nada pues arranca X en el boot. Que puedo hacer para acceder a la configuración del xfree y cambiar los datos o quizás el controlador. Gracias. Pepe. Ah! Santiago funcionó la carga de esos paquetes.
Re: Drivers para tarjeta de vídeo
Hola, Has comprobado si esta tarjeta utiliza el bus AGP. Si es asi o si no encuentras drivers (pasate por www.xfree86.org), entonces solo tienes tres posibilidades: 1. Olvidarte de los graficos en linux por unos meses hasta que salga soporte para tu tarjeta. 2. Buscar en SUSE a ver si encuentras algun servidor que la soporte (SUSE hace servidores para tarjetas AGP que aun no estan en XFree86. 3. Instalar soportes FrameBuffer (si tu tarjeta es VESA). Es lo que yo estoy haciendo para mi S3 Trio 3D. Aunque tengo que advertirte que no es una tarea trivial y supone instalar kernels no estables (o por lo menos la 2.2.0-preX Hasta mas bits, - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez LAB. 2.3.4 Tlf.: (95) 2132863 http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html - La medida de programar es programar sin medida On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Salva Souto wrote: Tengo la distribución 2.0 de Debian, pero no puedo instalar las XWindows debido a que no hay drivers para mi tarjeta de vídeo. Ésta es una Winfast 700 con chipset SiS 6201. Quisiera que me indicarais donde puedo conseguir uno o que me lo faciliteis vosotros si teneis alguno disponible (en ese caso enviádmelo a mi dirección de correo electrónica: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Gracias por anticipado. y hasta luego. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Configuracion de xfree86
El fichero de configuración es el XF86Config que suele estar en /etc/X11. Este fichero lo crea el programa XF86Setup en la distribución de Debian. Para ver si tu servidor de X funciona bien prueba con el comando X -probeonly. X no es más que un enlace simbólico con el servidor que se arranca realmente en XWindow. Tambien puedes probar con diferentes servidores con el comando nombre_de_servidor -probeonly. El programa Superprobe tambien intenta detectar qué tipo de tarjeta tienes. Mucha más información viene en el Howto de Xfree en castellano en la distribución Debian. Saludos
Programación en C par XWindow
Hola a todos: Quisiera realizar alguna consulta relacionada con programación en C. Tengo alguna experiencia en programación en C (no C++) en entorno DOS y Windows 3.1 con el paquete de BorlandC. Quisiera saber si alguien me puede proporcionar información de como hacer algun programa para XWindow. Más concretamente, en Windows, el propio paquete Borlandc gestiona las API (digamos que librerias gráficas) para crear ventanas, ocultarlas, gestionar temporizadores, escribir en ventanas, etc, etc. Me imagino que para XWindow existe algún tipo de librerías para realizar las mismas cosas e incluso más. A ser posible no tengo intención de programar en C++ y quisiera que alguien me pudiera decir donde puedo encontrar información al respecto, con algún ejemplito de iniciación. Saludos.
Re: Configuracion de xfree86
Antonio Angel Sanz ArrXspide wrote: El fichero de configuración es el XF86Config que suele estar en /etc/X11. Este fichero lo crea el programa XF86Setup en la distribución de Debian. Para ver si tu servidor de X funciona bien prueba con el comando X -probeonly. X no es más que un enlace simbólico con el servidor que se arranca realmente en XWindow. .. últimamente estoy a vueltas con esto de las Xwindows y creo recordar que en Debian X no es un enlace a tu servidor. Me dijeron que es por seguridad. ¿alguien podría explicarlo un poquico? La verdad es que estas diferencias me despistan mucho. Leo howto y documentacion general y me suele entrar la duda de si me faltara por leer algo que indique que en Debian se deba hacer de otra forma. Saludos David
Re: Swap mayor o está bien, ¿en qué quedamos?
Como ya te han sugerido várias causas posibles a tu problema y parece que todavia no descubriste cual es la verdadera causa, voy a aportar otra idea a ver si por fin descubrimos que es lo que pasa: Verifica cuanto cache en memoria está usando netscape (edit -- preferences -- advanced -- cache). Yo también uso netscape 4.5 y en mi caso uso 5000 kb de cache en memoria RAM, que es mas que suficiente. Jaime Villate Universidad de Oporto
staroffice
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Re: Configuracion de xfree86
Antonio Angel Sanz Arróspide escribió: El fichero de configuración es el XF86Config que suele estar en /etc/X11. Este fichero lo crea el programa XF86Setup en la distribución de Debian. Para ver si tu servidor de X funciona bien prueba con el comando X -probeonly. X no es más que un enlace simbólico con el servidor que se arranca realmente en XWindow. Tambien puedes probar con diferentes servidores con el comando nombre_de_servidor -probeonly. El programa Superprobe tambien intenta detectar qué tipo de tarjeta tienes. Mucha más información viene en el Howto de Xfree en castellano en la distribución Debian. Saludos -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null El problema es que no veo nada pues arranca X en el boot, tanto desde hda2 como desde fd0. como puedo salir de X y que se ponga en texto para poder modificar la configuración. En el HOWTO xfree86_04b_txt.gz dice que con Ctrl+Alt+backspace se sale de X, pero no funciona y solo puedo salir con Ctrl+Alt+Supr. Un saludo. Pepe.
Re: Programación en C par XWindow
Antonio Angel Sanz Arróspide [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Me imagino que para XWindow existe algún tipo de librerías para realizar las mismas cosas e incluso más. A ser posible no tengo intención de programar en C++ y quisiera que alguien me pudiera decir donde puedo encontrar información al respecto, con algún ejemplito de iniciación. C++, rápido, simple, con ejemplos y documentación completa == FLTK http://fltk.easysw.com/ Paquetes libfltk0 y libfltk0-dev en slink Marcelo
Juegos
Hola:
Bueno como llega el fin de semana una pregunta:
Yo tenia en mi antigua debian 1.3.1 un juego llamado torres de Hanoi o
algo asi y no consigo encontrarlo en la distribucion de la 2.o de L.A.
¿esta este juego?
¿Si es asi, donde ?
Saludos.
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Fernando.
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Re: Configuracion de xfree86
David Charro Ripa wrote: Antonio Angel Sanz ArrXspide wrote: ... comando X -probeonly. X no es más que un enlace simbólico con el servidor que se arranca realmente en XWindow. .. últimamente estoy a vueltas con esto de las Xwindows y creo recordar que en Debian X no es un enlace a tu servidor. Me dijeron que es por seguridad. ¿alguien podría explicarlo un poquico? La verdad es que estas diferencias me despistan mucho. Leo howto y documentacion general y me suele entrar la duda de si me faltara por leer algo que indique que en Debian se deba hacer de otra forma. ... Efectivamente, en Debian no existe el enlace simbólico. Esta información se puede leer en el archivo: /usr/doc/X11/README.Debian En general las diferencias del paquete en su versión Debian están explicadas en: /usr/doc/nombre del paquete/README.Debian -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()=\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-944-45208, 54-944-45100 Fax: 54-944-45299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.edu.ar/darie/darie.htm
RE: Configuracion de xfree86
Mira, yo tengo la debian instalado donde X es un enlace al servidor y funciona 100%. Asi que... Saludos Gustavo -- De: David Charro Ripa[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Responder a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: viernes 22 de enero de 1999 6:13 Para: Debian Español Asunto: Re: Configuracion de xfree86 Antonio Angel Sanz ArrXspide wrote: El fichero de configuración es el XF86Config que suele estar en /etc/X11. Este fichero lo crea el programa XF86Setup en la distribución de Debian. Para ver si tu servidor de X funciona bien prueba con el comando X -probeonly. X no es más que un enlace simbólico con el servidor que se arranca realmente en XWindow. .. últimamente estoy a vueltas con esto de las Xwindows y creo recordar que en Debian X no es un enlace a tu servidor. Me dijeron que es por seguridad. ¿alguien podría explicarlo un poquico? La verdad es que estas diferencias me despistan mucho. Leo howto y documentacion general y me suele entrar la duda de si me faltara por leer algo que indique que en Debian se deba hacer de otra forma. Saludos David -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: La memoria se me empeta
Antonio Castro dixit: 300K de disco duro para swap es algo grande pero no es una salvajada. En 300Kbytes en pesetas es muy poca cosa y el sistema lo agradece. ¿Te refieres a 300MB de swap? Entonces no se trata de cuánto cuesta un disco dividido por su capacidad y multiplicado por 300, sino de cuánto cuesta un disco con la capacidad suficiente como para que puedas permitirte el lujo de hacer semejante partición sólo para swap... no es poca cosa en pesetas cuando muchos (¿la mayoría?) están funcionando con discos de 1.pocosGB. Yo recomiendo 150Mb no porque sean necesarios sino porque es una decisión que ha de tomarse al particionar el disco. La swap en un fichero es una chapucilla para salir de un aprieto. De todas formas no existiendo unos objetivos de rendimientos como podría ocurrir en un servidor de una empresa cada cual en su maquina puede hacer lo que guste. De todos modos tenía entendido que en una sola partición Linux tan sólo reconoce hasta 128MB de swap (a no ser que se recompile el núcleo para que reconozca más, o algo así). -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Fwd) Sobre smtpd
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:15:14 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: (Fwd) Sobre smtpd Resent-Date: 21 Jan 1999 16:17:54 - Resent-From: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hola a todos Tengo un problemita con spam, unos amigos me han dicho que en RedHat hay un paquete smtpd muy bueno. Perdonen la duplicidad pero me falto decir que busque en un espejo de debian y con ese nombre no he encontrado nada. Conocen si este existe para debian y donde puedo obtenerlo ? Existe alguna forma de debianizar un paquete de RedHat? Muchas gracias Saludos Para debianizar rpm, usa el alien, funciona realmente bien. En cuanto a lo del spam, yo no lo he usado, pero tienes: /debian/slink/non-free/binary-all/mail/rblsmtpd-src_0.70-1.deb que supongo que será el paquete a que te refieres, y luego tienes debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/mail/spamfilter_1.3-1.deb /debian/hamm/hamm/binary-all/mail/spamdb_1.1.deb Espero haberte ayudado, Saludos Benjamín Albiñana Pérez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User Nº78177 Espacio disponible para publicidad
Re: La memoria se me empeta
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 02:16:15PM +0100, Antonio Castro wrote: Has probado a aumentar el swap ? Tampoco pasa nada pero tiraras menos de swap. Yo tengo 64K y tres particiones de swap de 100K cada una. Megabytes, ¿no? En general no es una muy buena idea hacer particiones muy grandes de swap, porque el manejo de memoria virtual de Linux no es lo que llamaríamos eficiente. Lo que quiero decir es que Linux para manejar la memoria utiliza tablas que no pueden sacarse de la memoria lo cual quiere decir que si tenemos particiones para 'swap' mucho mayores que el tamaño físico de la memoria, habrá una cantidad de memoria empleada en manterner información referente a esa memoria extra, y esta cantidad aumenta según aumente el tamaño del 'swap' _mi_ regla de oro: nunca poner más swap que un poco más que la memoria de la máquina (con un límite superior suave de 1.5 veces la memoria y un límite duro de 2 veces la memoria). A menos que existan circunstancias atenuantes, la misma cantidad de memoria 'real' y 'swap' en lo que yo uso. ¿Por qué? Porque si realmente *necesito* el doble de memoria del que la máquina tiene, prefiero pagar por el doble de memoria y no pagar con 100+ veces el tiempo (8 ns vs 10 ms es una diferencia __nada__ despreciable) El otro detalle a considerar es que las tarjetas con chipset TX (bastante comunes hoy en día) no hacen 'cache' de la memoria sobre 64 MB. Marcelo
Re: No oigo MIDI
Pues yo también tengo la SB16 y mi configuración difiere. Podrías pasarme _todos_ los parámetros para la compilación, porque supongo que algunos se me pasaron por alto. El Thu, Jan 21, 1999, Gabriel B cat /dev/sndstat Installed drivers: Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM Type 2: Sound Blaster Type 7: SB MPU-401 Installed drivers: Type 2: Sound Blaster Type 7: SB MPU-401 Card config: Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1,5 SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 7 OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0 Card config: Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1,5 (SB MPU-401 irq 1 drq 0) Audio devices: 0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.13) Synth devices: 0: Yamaha OPL-3 Midi devices: 0: Sound Blaster 16 Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster Audio devices: 0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.13) Synth devices: Midi devices: Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster :-? Saludos. -- Cosme = -=-=- A través de Debian GNU/Linux -=-=- -=-=- Software Libre -=-=- -=-=- Computadora de 1992 -=-=- http://www.linux.org/ S.O. Multi-[plataforma, tarea, usuario] http://www.gnu.org/ Free Software Foundation http://LuCAS.ctv.es/ Linux Documentation Project CAStellano =
Gnome default dir is /usr/src
Hi, I installed gnome in my computer, and, I don't know why, every program that I start within the gnome-panel has the current dir = /usr/src. I could find no reason, and no documentation about it. Anyone knows what's going on? Debian Gnu/Linux 2.0.35 slink Pentium gnome-panel 0.30-2 Thanks in advance. -- Luiz Otavio L. ZorzellaComputer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unix98 pty system
i'm about to switch to kernel 2.2.0pre6, and in the configuration i saw that i can use the unix98 pty system rather than the old ptyxx/ttyxx. if i do this, will important things (i.e. xterm, incoming telnets) break? --jonathan 'phouchg' tomer
Re: Windows95 and Linux Installation
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Michael Stenner wrote: Don't know too much about this, but it seems odd to jump from hdb1 to hdb5 with no 2,3,4 in between. However, if it is working so far, it's hdb5 is the first extended partition number. hdb1 is the primary partition, hdb2 is an extended partition (no space for data), and hdb5 is the first [logical] partition inside of hdb2. now you know :) -ed
Re: unix98 pty system
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Jonathan P Tomer wrote: i'm about to switch to kernel 2.2.0pre6, and in the configuration i saw that i can use the unix98 pty system rather than the old ptyxx/ttyxx. if i do this, will important things (i.e. xterm, incoming telnets) break? IIRC, the unix98 pty system support is for use with glibc2.1 only (not glibc2.0, which most distros, debian included, use). I believe it mentions this in the config help. -ed
Re: what cd-writer ?
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:57:08PM -0500, Odin wrote: I want to buy a cd-writer. I don't need rewritable support at present time, but it would be a plus. I've seen a new Yamaha model that's affordable. Are they good and well supported with Linux ? Thanks in advance. If you found a yamaha model that's affordable, _Get_it!_ Those are excellent machines. They are closely followed in quality by Philips and HP if you see those, you might want to look into them as well. see www.goldenhawk.com/support/faq.htm has a very useful list detailing problems with firmware version numbers on various models, so check that list before buying anything, but basically everything yamaha makes anymore is excellent. The site is for a Windows program, but still contains very valid information for linux as it is mostly hardware info. Also, IMHO, a SCSI writer is vastly superior to an IDE. In general, they support more modes, can be external (so if for some reason it refuses to eject a disc--I've had that happen--you can power-cycle the driver w/o losing your uptime). There are many other reasons such as stability, but since I don't fully understand those reasons, I won't pretent to talk about them. Linux w/ cdrecord supports most if not all yamaha/philips/hp drives. The philips CDD-522 (I think) driver is the one I use on my CDD-2600 and it works fine for other philips models too (AFAIK all of them). Yamaha drivers are likely the same, so don't despair if you don't find your exact model. I'd call yamaha and ask them if the drive is supported in unix cdrecord before buying. Good luck! (subliminal message --- psst.. buy the yamaha) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Can you recommend an inexpensive PCI SCSI card to go with a Yamaha? Right now, I have two ATAPI hard drives and an ATAPI DVD drive connected to a motherboard IDE controller. I was planning on purchasing a HP ATAPI drive, but after hearing about several bad experiences with ATAPI drives, I'm interested in a SCSI-based external one. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: unix98 pty system
ok, so if i grab glibc2.1 i can use unix98 ptys? or will everything break on glibc2.1? --phouchg
kernel messages
Does anyone understand what caused the following error messages? I was running the following script on my system, which reads file names and check whether thse files in a directory exist. This directory includes a lot of files, more than 5000. #! /bin/sh while read f do if [ ! -f $f -o ! -s $f ] ; then echo $f fi done While this script runs, the system almost always hangs by printing the following messages on console. Problem: block on freelist at02750310 isn't free. IRQ DEADLOCK DETECTED BY CPU 0. Kernel panic: FORWARDED INTERRUPT TIMEOUT (AKP = 0, saved AKP = 1) Kernel panic: FORWARDED INTERRUPT TIMEOUT (AKP = 0, saved AKP = 255) In /var/log/kern.log Out of memory for galign-SF-SF-i.. Problem: block on freelist at 02750310 isn't free. In /var/log/syslog Problem: block on freelist at 02750310 isn't free. (In other cases, I got 1. Kernel panic: CPU #0:Attempted flush tlb IPI whennot AKP(=255) 2. Problem: block on freelist at 01ba8d90 isn't free. ) My questions are 1. Is this kernel's problem or is there some trouble in hardware? 2. Why are these error messages not output in /var/log/syslog? In /etc/syslog.conf *.*;auth,authpriv.none /var/log/syslog My system is Hardware: Tyan Tiger2, Pentium II 333Mhz x 2 SDRAM with ECC OS: kernel-source-2.0.36-1 + 2.0.37-pre-patch-3.gz Debian 2.0
Re: Gnome default dir is /usr/src
I installed gnome in my computer, and, I don't know why, every program that I start within the gnome-panel has the current dir = /usr/src. Similarly, the slink version starts everything in /etc. Boy, is that a pain in emacs. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | --
Re: kernel messages
I forgot to say: If this script is run on another pc with the same os, ( Tyan Titan Pro, Pentium Pro 200Mhz x 2, FastPage with parity) there is always no problem. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 22 10:22:53 1999 Does anyone understand what caused the following error messages? I was running the following script on my system, which reads file names and check whether thse files in a directory exist. This directory includes a lot of files, more than 5000. #! /bin/sh while read f do if [ ! -f $f -o ! -s $f ] ; then echo $f fi done While this script runs, the system almost always hangs by printing the following messages on console. Problem: block on freelist at02750310 isn't free. IRQ DEADLOCK DETECTED BY CPU 0. Kernel panic: FORWARDED INTERRUPT TIMEOUT (AKP = 0, saved AKP = 1) Kernel panic: FORWARDED INTERRUPT TIMEOUT (AKP = 0, saved AKP = 255) In /var/log/kern.log Out of memory for galign-SF-SF-i.. Problem: block on freelist at 02750310 isn't free. In /var/log/syslog Problem: block on freelist at 02750310 isn't free. (In other cases, I got 1. Kernel panic: CPU #0:Attempted flush tlb IPI whennot AKP(=255) 2. Problem: block on freelist at 01ba8d90 isn't free. ) My questions are 1. Is this kernel's problem or is there some trouble in hardware? 2. Why are these error messages not output in /var/log/syslog? In /etc/syslog.conf *.*;auth,authpriv.none /var/log/syslog My system is Hardware: Tyan Tiger2, Pentium II 333Mhz x 2 SDRAM with ECC OS:kernel-source-2.0.36-1 + 2.0.37-pre-patch-3.gz Debian 2.0
Re: what cd-writer ?
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:57:08PM -0500, Odin wrote: snipped for obfuscation Can you recommend an inexpensive PCI SCSI card to go with a Yamaha? Right now, I have two ATAPI hard drives and an ATAPI DVD drive connected to a motherboard IDE controller. I was planning on purchasing a HP ATAPI drive, but after hearing about several bad experiences with ATAPI drives, I'm interested in a SCSI-based external one. Well, I can't in good conscience reccommend anything but an adaptec. I've heard (but not experienced) that a zip-plus will erase data on a scsi hdd when not connected to an adaptec. There are other reasons, though, like support, speed, _very_ nice bios, etc. You'll pay for the niceness, but in my opinion, well worth it. If you're planning on just using your CD-R on your SCSI chain, then you don't need Ultra Wide or even SCSI-3, just get yourself a good SCSI-2 (you don't even need that, but room to expand is good, and good luck finding a Narrow SCSI-1 anymore.) If you're not buying for a corporation, my suggestion would be to watch the online auctions, sometimes they have adaptec cards. -Dan
Re: Learning more/Linux programming books
Steve Lamb wrote: I don't know, I think if there were a language to start newbies out on, it is perl. Don't have to worry about many of the things that other languages force upon you yet gives you a good gounding in how those other languages work. Heaven, no! I think its quite a sinn to give perl to a newbie, perl corrupts. I use Perl since two years and I quite like it, but only because I can choose to use either imperative or oop thinking in perl and I dont have to every variable. And thats the reason why a newbie should start with a a structured language like java (oop), pascal (imperative) or scheme (functional/lists oriented), so she/he learns to order hers/his thoughts and get a habit of problem solving. Perl gives you every opportunity to everything in one or two or in any other way, and I don't think that this is a good start in programming ... soryy, my 2 euros mfg -- --- Andreas Sliwka --- http://emil.nef.wh.uni-dortmund.de/~goff talk to me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ICQ:13961062
Re: Lilo corrupted double-spaced Win95 drive
Hi, On Thu, 21 Jan, 1999 à 01:46:03PM -0600, Kent West wrote: This isn't exactly a Debian question, but maybe you can help. [snip] So I went back and reconfigured lilo.conf so that one or two of the lines that were referring to hdb1 now referred to hda1. (I don't have the No !!! You should have put hda, not hda1 for boot. Upon reboot, lilo came up and gave me my options of linux or Win95, and linux starts just fine. Win95 however does a repeating Loading Windows, LILO, Loading Windows, LILO . It's what you've asked in lilo.conf : the windows option in it ask to load the boot sector of /dev/hda1 so lilo load it an execute it. But it contains lilo... Does anyone know how I can recover my Win95 partition so my family can have their toy back? boot linux, look in /boot. If you have the file boot.0301 do as follow : dd if=/boot/boot.0301 of=/dev/hda1 bs=1b count=1 (or lilo -u should do the same effect) edit lilo.conf so as to have boot=/dev/hda instead of /dev/hda1 rerun lilo reboot. should work If you don't kept /boot/boot.301 I do not know a definitive way of restoring wintendo. You could try this : boot from a floppy and try sys c: but please try this as a last resort because it could wrac havoc your win1895 partition Thanks. HTH -- ( - Laurent PICOULEAU - ) /~\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /~\ | \)Linux : mettez un pingouin dans votre ordinateur !(/ | \_|_Seuls ceux qui ne l'utilisent pas en disent du mal. _|_/
Re: Desktop manager for X Window in a slow computer?
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:41:56PM +0100, Daniel González Gasull wrote: I have a potato i486 DX2 66 MHz with 8 MB RAM running X with Linux Debian 2.0. Which desktop manager for X Window may/must I use? You mean desktop environment, or window manager? A window manager is the thing that puts borders and titles on your windows and lets you move them around, resize them, iconify them, etc. Most (all?) also have pop-up menus that can be used to launch other applications if properly configured. A desktop environment is much more complicated thing with a really blue-sky definition. It does nifty things like let you drag and drop between different applications and more complcated stuff. KDE and GNOME are two prominent examples. You may not get satisfying performance out of either of them on an old 486. But I really can't say since I don't use either one. Assuming you mean window manager, well, there's always the old standby twm, but it's not very featureful and doesn't even support the Debian menuing system properly (yet). fvwm and fvwm2 are a couple of very popular alternatives based on twm, but are more featureful. fvwm (version 1) was designed to not hog too many system resources. I used it happily for a couple of years; I now use fvwm2. There are lots and lots of window managers out there. Your best bet is probably to experiment. -- G. Branden Robinson | What influenced me to atheism was Debian GNU/Linux | reading the Bible cover to cover. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Twice. cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | -- J. Michael Straczynski pgpAmWBbSYPTi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: configuring X
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 03:27:59PM -0600, Brian Morgan wrote: Can someone help me find the xf86setup graphical setup for X? I'm having trouble getting the mouse just right, and would like to use the graphical setup to make this work. If you're running hamm, it's in the xserver-vga16 package, and should be in as /usr/bin/X11/XF86Setup. If you're using slink or potato, XF86Setup has its own package, called (strangely) xf86setup. I'll caution you, though -- in my experience XF86Setup is not a great tool with which to configure the mouse. The X server expects the pointer device to be working when it starts, and if you have the protocol set wrong and then move the mouse, you can get bizarre results and you have to kill the X server. If you have a serial mouse, try putting ProtocolAuto in the Pointer section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config file. That autodetects a wide variety of serial mice. -- G. Branden Robinson | When dogma enters the brain, all Debian GNU/Linux | intellectual activity ceases. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Anton Wilson cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgp8yNyR12Hlm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Desktop manager for X Window in a slow computer?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:09:14 -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Assuming you mean window manager, well, there's always the old standby twm, but it's not very featureful and doesn't even support the Debian menuing system properly (yet). I'll throw in my suggestion for icewm. It looks much nicer than twm, isn't too configurable, but is nice and small. Mind you, this is the gnome version and I think the normal one would be smaller. USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND morpheus 15301 0.0 2.5 3864 1640 ? S Jan 10 0:14 icewm-gnome - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNqff+Xpf7K2LbpnFEQJ4kQCdFFsB9IFUteN4jnm39Z2KPEMdWv0AoKD+ dmSaLqYBR//F7vkNSPlVYYbI =yPwI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Desktop manager for X Window in a slow computer?
Daniel González Gasull wrote: Hi! I have a potato i486 DX2 66 MHz with 8 MB RAM running X with Linux Debian 2.0. Which desktop manager for X Window may/must I use? Just take a window manager with a (very)small memory footprint, mw2, blackbox, or icewm mfg+ --- Andreas Sliwka --- http://emil.nef.wh.uni-dortmund.de/~goff talk to me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ICQ:13961062
Re: DeskJet 870
On 1999-01-21 16:21, Alec Smith wrote: Could anyone tell me how to make my DeskJet 870 operate under Debian? For example, a filter for Magicfilter or whichever. Either use dj550c-filer or use the ghostscript hpdj filter (magic filter included). /Allan -- Allan M. Wind Phone: 781.938.5272 (home) 687 Main St., 2nd fl. Fax:781.938.6641 (home) Woburn, MA 01801Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) #! /usr/sbin/magicfilter # PostScript 0 %! filter cat - | /usr/bin/pstops -q 1:-0 | /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=hpdj -sColorMode=CMYK -sModel=unspec -sPrintQuality=0 -sOutputFile=- - 0 \004%! filter cat - | /usr/bin/pstops -q 1:-0 | /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=hpdj -sColorMode=CMYK -sModel=unspec -sPrintQuality=0 -sOutputFile=- - # PDF 0 %PDFfpipe cat - | /usr/bin/pstops -q 1:-0 | /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=hpdj -sColorMode=CMYK -sModel=unspec -sPrintQuality=0 -sOutputFile=- $FILE # TeX DVI 0 \367\002fpipe /usr/bin/dvips -D 600 -R -q -f # compress'd data 0 \037\235pipe/bin/gzip -cdq # packed, gzipped, frozen and SCO LZH data 0 \037\036pipe/bin/gzip -cdq 0 \037\213pipe/bin/gzip -cdq 0 \037\236pipe/bin/gzip -cdq 0 \037\240pipe/bin/gzip -cdq # troff documents 0 .\?\?\040 fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` 0 .\\\ fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` 0 '\\\ fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` 0 '.\\\ fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` 0 \\\fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` # ditroff 0 x T pspipe/usr/bin/grops 0 x T dvi pipe/usr/bin/grodvi 0 x T ascii pipe/usr/bin/grotty 0 x T latin1pipe/usr/bin/grotty 0 x T lj4 reject Cannot print LaserJet 4 ditroff files. # Portable bit-, grey- and pixmaps 0 P1\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 600 2/dev/null 0 P2\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 600 2/dev/null 0 P3\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 600 2/dev/null 0 P4\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 600 2/dev/null 0 P5\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 600 2/dev/null 0 P6\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 600 2/dev/null # HP Printer Control Language (PCL) -- assume start with reset code 0 \033E\033 cat # HP Printer Job Language (PJL) 0 \033%-12345Xreject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 0 @PJL reject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 0 @PJL\t reject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 0 @PJL\r reject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 0 @PJL\n reject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. # GIF files 0 GIF87a pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm 2/dev/null 0 GIF89a pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm 2/dev/null # JFIF (JPEG) files 0 \377\330\377\340\?\?JFIF\0 pipe/usr/bin/djpeg -pnm # TIFF files (the last two bytes of the magic is really a version number; # but the magic is really lame and as far as I have understood the version # number has never changed and never will, so we include it.) 0 MM\0\x2afpipe /usr/bin/tiff2ps $FILE 0 II\x2a\0fpipe /usr/bin/tiff2ps $FILE # BMP files (even lousier magic -- Microsoft strikes again!) 0 BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x0c pipe\ /usr/bin/bmptoppm 2/dev/null 0 BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x40 pipe\ /usr/bin/bmptoppm 2/dev/null 0 BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x28 pipe\ /usr/bin/bmptoppm 2/dev/null # Garbage delivered from Windows via Samba # (donated by Andree Leidenfrost [EMAIL PROTECTED]) # 300 \033\052\157cat # later changed to # (Bug report #22866: magicfilter: Incorrect magic for Win95/Samba print jobs) 0 \000\000\000\000\000 cat # Sun rasterfiles 0 \x59\xa6\x6a\x95 pipe /usr/bin/rasttopnm 2/dev/null # SGI Imagelib (IRIS RGB) files 0 \x1\xda pipe/usr/bin/sgitopnm 2/dev/null 0 \xda\x1 pipe/usr/bin/sgitopnm 2/dev/null # FIG files; reported by Steven P. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 #FIGpipe/usr/bin/X11/fig2dev -Lps -P -l dummy # # Standard rejects... things we don't want to print # # Various archive formats 257 ustar\0 reject Attempted to print a tar file. 257 ustar \0 reject Attempted to print a tar file. 0 07070 reject Attempted to print a cpio file. 0 PK\3\4 reject Attempted to print a zip file. 20 \xdc\xa7\xc7\xfd reject Attempted to print a zoo file. # Binaries (Linux): reject with
Re: in-addr.arpa registration
On 1999-01-21 02:19, Chad A. Adlawan wrote: i was wondering if someone can help/give me guidelines on what do i do to register a block for reverse IP queries/reverse domain, my case is, a friend asked me why they can never do reverse lookups on their IP's (they own the whole block, i.e. 208.162.24.*) Are you sure that they OWN the block opposed to the ISP owning it? If they really own the block, check out www.internic.net. Otherwise, they will have to ask their ISP to registrate the reverse DNS for them. Try ftp to ftp.funet.fi, I beleive it complains when reverse dns is missing and direct you to some interesting documents. 162.208.in-addr.arpa origin = ns.cw.net mail addr = hostmaster.cw.net serial = 1999012001 refresh = 3600 (1H) retry = 600 (10M) expire = 360 (5w6d16h) minimum ttl = 3600 (1H) Looks like you're missing a 24 somewhere. The arpa line should be 24.162.208.in-addr.arpa (for your C class). Good luck! /Allan -- Allan M. Wind Phone: 781.938.5272 (home) 687 Main St., 2nd fl. Fax:781.938.6641 (home) Woburn, MA 01801Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)
re: what cd-writer ?
If you found a yamaha model that's affordable, _Get_it!_ Those are excellent machines. I just got a Yamaha CRW4416S internal SCSI 16/4/4 cd writer. I also got a cheap crappy Kouwell 10MB/s SCSI adapter to go with it. No problem getting it up and running with cdrecord under Debian Linux (custom compiles though, my package situation is fried). Burned my first CD no problem. My hard drive is sighing under the reduced load now. I haven't booted into NT since then so I don't know if it works under it yet. -- SEGVhttp://www.cgocable.net/~mlepage/
Netscape Toolbar Icon
I've installed Netscape and Navigator45 in my Debian system. I use WindowMaker and Enlightenment. But why icon images in Navigator's toolbar look bad ? only 2 color (black and white) Any suggestion ? Thanks, UFM
DB2 progress
Hi, I'm also struggling with the installation of DB2 under debian. Here's what I have so far: I created a /bin/rpm file as follows: #!/bin/sh alien --to-deb -i $2 I symlinked the following: /bin/awk - /usr/bin/gawk /bin/basename - /usr/bin/basename /bin/compress - /usr/bin/compress /bin/grep - /usr/bin/grep /bin/egrep - /usr/bin/egrep /bin/sed - /usr/bin/sed /bin/touch - /usr/bin/touch I found a news post that gives the following information: The problem with connecting using a userid and password if you are shadowing passwords turns out to be a bug in the install script. A couple of files in sqllib/security should have suid bits set but the install is not doing this. To fix this, cd to ~/sqllib/security on the instance id and do: chmod g+s db2flacc chmod u+s db2aud then su to root and do: chmod ug+s db2ckpw And I subscribed to the ibm.software.db2.udb.linux.beta newsgroup at news.software.ibm.com. Status: The thing's installed (appears to be, at least), but at the point it tries (or I try) to create the sample instance with this: db2icrt -a SERVER -u db2fenc1 db2inst1 I'm getting horrible errors, worst of which is this beauty: SQL10007N Message -1390 could not be retrieved. Reason code: 2 Which, I think, means that it got an error, but it can't tell me what it is :) Some problem with localisation, I surmise. I have netsearched newsgroups for some clue as to what -1390 might mean, and it appears to be this: SQL1390C The environment variable DB2INSTANCE is not defined or is invalid. (Can I just point out, for the easily amused, that -1390 is represented as 1390C in one of the horrible numeric formats they use for COBOL? Welcome to the 70s. :) Colin.
Re: Massaging Compiling SLiRP
Karl A. Krueger writes: I'm having a good deal of trouble getting SLiRP to compile under Debian 2.0. I'm using the slirp-1.0c source code, available from blitzen.canberra.edu.au, under /pub/slirp. configure runs fine; but when attempting to actually make the binary, I get a stream of errors. The first: gcc -I. -I. -DUSE_PPP -g -O -O2 -c ./ppp/pppdfncs.c In file included from slirp.h:264, from ppp/ppp.h:27, from ppp/pppd.h:29, from ./ppp/pppdfncs.c:39: ppp.p:21: conflicting types for `logwtmp' /usr/include/utmp.h:53: previous declaration of `logwtmp' make: *** [pppdfncs.o] Error 1 I believe that this is caused by the different utmp format in glibc2. So ... has anyone successfully massaged the SLiRP source to get it to compile under a modern Linux? Mind sharing your hints or patches? Has anyone picked SLiRP up where Dan Gasparovski left it off three years ago? Has anyone (for that matter) a good replacement for SLiRP's functionality? Why not fetch the debianized source codes and take a look at the diff.gz file? -- H Huang
slink vs. staroffice 5.0
I had staroffice 5.0 working under hamm, but it broke when I updated to slink. I am assuming due to differences in libc.so.6 between hamm and slink. Is this right? Is there a way to keep slink and still get staroffice working again? Everything else I use is working fine. -Ben
Re: Gnome default dir is /usr/src
Will Lowe writes: I installed gnome in my computer, and, I don't know why, every program that I start within the gnome-panel has the current dir = /usr/src. Similarly, the slink version starts everything in /etc. Boy, is that a pain in emacs. Will Mine *is* slink! I think that this is either a configurable option that I could not find where to configure, or something like: from the dir where you ran dpkg to install gnome... Should I report this as a bug? Thanks. -- Luiz Otavio L. ZorzellaComputer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DB2 progress
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 02:32:21PM +1100, Colin McCormack wrote: Hi, I'm also struggling with the installation of DB2 under debian. Here's what I have so far: I created a /bin/rpm file as follows: #!/bin/sh alien --to-deb -i $2 I symlinked the following: /bin/awk - /usr/bin/gawk /bin/basename - /usr/bin/basename /bin/compress - /usr/bin/compress /bin/grep - /usr/bin/grep /bin/egrep - /usr/bin/egrep /bin/sed - /usr/bin/sed /bin/touch - /usr/bin/touch I found a news post that gives the following information: rpm2deb for DB2 installations are not a good idea since it does a whole bunch ofstuff at the end like addusers and updates database configuration. Best thing to do would be to install a small redhat partition, install DB2, tar it up, copy the log and untar the db2 and run the commands at the end on debian. The problem with connecting using a userid and password if you are shadowing passwords turns out to be a bug in the install script. A couple of files in sqllib/security should have suid bits set but the install is not doing this. To fix this, cd to ~/sqllib/security on the instance id and do: chmod g+s db2flacc chmod u+s db2aud then su to root and do: chmod ug+s db2ckpw And I subscribed to the ibm.software.db2.udb.linux.beta newsgroup at news.software.ibm.com. Status: The thing's installed (appears to be, at least), but at the point it tries (or I try) to create the sample instance with this: db2icrt -a SERVER -u db2fenc1 db2inst1 I'm getting horrible errors, worst of which is this beauty: SQL10007N Message -1390 could not be retrieved. Reason code: 2 Which, I think, means that it got an error, but it can't tell me what it is :) Some problem with localisation, I surmise. I have netsearched newsgroups for some clue as to what -1390 might mean, and it appears to be this: SQL1390C The environment variable DB2INSTANCE is not defined or is invalid. Looks like you did not install the DB2 instance.. Second screen I guess or you did not run the follow-up commands. Look at the IBM newsgroup for the message called DB2 Install on Debian GNU/Linux and read its reply. It will help you. (Can I just point out, for the easily amused, that -1390 is represented as 1390C in one of the horrible numeric formats they use for COBOL? Welcome to the 70s. :) Colin. Hope it helps, Vaidhy
Re: DB2 progress
Here's what I have so far: I created a /bin/rpm file as follows: #!/bin/sh alien --to-deb -i $2 rpm2deb for DB2 installations are not a good idea since it does a whole bunch ofstuff at the end like addusers and updates database configuration. Best thing to do would be to install a small redhat partition, install DB2, tar it up, copy the log and untar the db2 and run the commands at the end on debian. Doesn't alien run the post installation instructions in the rpm? The hack I'm suggesting makes the db2inst process think it's running rpm, but if alien doesn't perform internal rpm commands, and IBM's put such things into the rpms, I guess that would cause some problems. Don't see why alien wouldn't do this, though. Colin.
Re: Lilo corrupted double-spaced Win95 drive - Fixed
Kent West wrote: This isn't exactly a Debian question, but maybe you can help. First off, DOH! Secondly, I've got two drives in my box; the master is running Win95 and is apparently double-spaced. I know, I know, doublespace is just asking for trouble, but it was the only option I had for more drive space. I had forgotten the drive was doublespaced. I installed potato on the second drive, and then decided to install lilo. The first time around, lilo gave me the message that my BIOS might not boot from the second drive. I said OK and continued on. Upon reboot, Win95 came up just fine, but I never got a LILO prompt. So I went back and reconfigured lilo.conf so that one or two of the lines that were referring to hdb1 now referred to hda1. (I don't have the computer or files at hand right now.) I think it was either/both/allthree the boot= line and/or the install= line and/or the root= line. Upon reboot, lilo came up and gave me my options of linux or Win95, and linux starts just fine. Win95 however does a repeating Loading Windows, LILO, Loading Windows, LILO . When I try to mount the Win partition in Linux, it says there's no msdos type or vfat type partitions. About this time I start remembering that maybe the Win drive is double-spaced. So I boot off a Win95 floppy and try to access the C: drive and get an Invalid media type error. I run Win95's fdisk and it reports the partition as UNKNOWN. Great, I think, just great! Does anyone know how I can recover my Win95 partition so my family can have their toy back? Thanks. Just wanted to let everyone know, this is now fixed. Good ol' Norton Utilities for Win95 to the rescue. Saw I had a corrupt boot sector, offered to fix it, did, and now everything is dandy. Once I got the system up, I realized that the Win drive was NOT doublespaced. So what I did/lilo did to the MBR/partition is beyond me, but it's fixed now. Now I'm using the [menu] option in DOS/Windows' CONFIG.SYS for my boot manager, calling loadlin as needed to fire up Linux. Works great. Thanks everyone!
Re: XFIG in Debian recent release
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 08:44:46PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having some trouble with editing a picture object file in the XFIG of the recent Debian release. This is the first time I have loaded Debian GNU/Linux. I have experience with the slackware and Redhat. The picture object does not fill the space to which it expands on use original size The result -- I cannot edit or place other objects on the object. Am I setting some wrong option? Can someone help? Thanks Chitra Natarajan I am not sure what you mean by does not fill the space. I tried it today and it works fine.. However, I think you may be making one of the following errors: 1. Use apply button to preview. You have to use done button to get the changes on the screen. 2. your image might have a frame around it. Hope it helps, Vaidhy -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: SQL packages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Does anyone know if there are any SQL database servers that are MS SQL 6.5 compatible and work with Debian? Also, would it support integrated security and if not how hard do you expect it to be to write something like that?(I assume most of the work has already been done by the samba package.) If I can find something that does basically everything our current server does (or pretty close even), then I'm going to replace it with a Debian box that I can rely on. -- a) compatible with sql server? so far as odbc, mysql and postgreSQL offer odbc, which is probably how you connect to your server. the tables, however, are stored in a binary format in sql server (AFAIK), while mysql stores the data in flat text files. you're going to need to do some SQL trickery to move the data across; the data files cannot be copied from one system to another. my recommendation is to go with mysql, both for its enormous speed advantage, and also for it's great security. b) samba doesn't really do much you would want to do with a database, in all instances i've seen ,-. Adam Keys| That rug really brought the room together [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `-'
Re: DB2 progress
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 03:38:06PM +1100, Colin McCormack wrote: Here's what I have so far: I created a /bin/rpm file as follows: #!/bin/sh alien --to-deb -i $2 rpm2deb for DB2 installations are not a good idea since it does a whole bunch ofstuff at the end like addusers and updates database configuration. Best thing to do would be to install a small redhat partition, install DB2, tar it up, copy the log and untar the db2 and run the commands at the end on debian. Doesn't alien run the post installation instructions in the rpm? The hack I'm suggesting makes the db2inst process think it's running rpm, but if alien doesn't perform internal rpm commands, and IBM's put such things into the rpms, I guess that would cause some problems. Don't see why alien wouldn't do this, though. Colin. My thinking is that these are not the part of RPM, but a part of the script that installs the rpms. In that case, the post-inst scripts would work fine, but the commnads to run after the rpm installs would not work. I am planning to try a hack.. I am going to convert the scripts to deb, convert them back to RPM and use the DB2 installer to see if they work..
Re: DB2 progress
Colin McCormack wrote: Doesn't alien run the post installation instructions in the rpm? Not unless you convert it with alien --scripts. The chance that the postinst just won't work on a redhat system is too large (imho) to make it on by default. -- see shy jo
Re: Gnome default dir is /usr/src
Mine *is* slink! I think that this is either a configurable option that I could not find where to configure, or something like: from the dir where you ran dpkg to install gnome... Should I report this as a bug? Sure. But make it one with a pretty low priority. :) Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | --
Re: root telnet
- - How to make telnetd accept root login ? - - are you nuts ? - use ssh at least... - - If you really must allow root access, after adding the relevent entries to - the /etc/securrity file. You *could* then restrict root access to limited - hosts via the /etc/login.access file. (OK I guess you could do this via - hosts.allow/deny too). - - In login.access add a line like... - - -:root:ALL EXCEPT some.host1 some.other.host LOCAL - - That will allow root logins only from local (console) and some.host1 and - some.other.host and I'll recommend to define in sshd.conf: UseLogin yes - Might not be the best way, but better than just allowing root access from - anywhere (suicide). - Of course you could always login as another user and then 'su -' to root. That's the preferred way by 9 of 10 sysadmins ;-) -- Matus fantomas Uhlar, sysadmin at Telenor Internet Kosice, Slovakia BIC coord for *.sk; admin of netlab.irc.sk; co-admin of irc.felk.cvut.cz Silvester Stallone: Father of the RISC concept.
debian installation
I need some help. I have been trying to install debian for severl weeks. Today got me the most progress so far. I had my installation almost running but I think I put in a wrong video or monitor value and my system started blinking every half second. It was locked up so I rebooted. Same thing. Now, I have selected the packages for home user(graphics,sound,X yadda yadda), but when I install, I get too many errors, quitting install and as its installing the packages that do get installed, often it says error files missing. Do I have a bad CD? I have been fighting with this for a long time. I thought I almost had it, then I made a mistake, and now I can't get that far for nothin'. I have even d'loaded the floppy images from the site to see if they work. Nope. Maybe I'm not meant to run Linux.
Re: Kernel make config
Hi, kernel-package dcontains what I think are the official config files in /usr/lib/kernel-package/Config, and those get used if you do not already have a .config file. I think you can run make-kpkg kernel_image, hit control C after a minute or so, and voila, you should have a proper .config file to use as default. manoj -- My sense of purpose is gone! I have no idea who I AM! Oh, my God... You've.. You've turned him into a DEMOCRAT! Doonesbury Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
Re: making symlinks in cvs
Hi, Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey I know cvs doesn't do symlinks, but I need some symlinks to be Joey created when a cvs directory is checked out, and I know that's Joey possible because Manoj told me how once... but I've forgotten Joey the details. Could anyone fill me in on how to do it? Here is an excerpt from my modules file. Two packages, latex2html and pkg-order, contain symlinks. The modules file entries are noted below. I am enclosing the (simple) scripts as well. manoj == # Debian Packages latex2html -s manoj -e $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/latex2html -o $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/lat ex2html debian/latex2html make -s manoj debian/make pkg-order-s manoj -e $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/pkg-order -o $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/pkg- == $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/latex2html = #! /bin/sh set -e echo 2 `pwd` (cd $1/docs; test -f html.sty || ln -s ../texinputs/html.sty; \ test -f htmllist.sty || ln -s ../texinputs/htmllist.sty) (cd $1/styles; test -f francais.perl || ln -s french.perl francais.perl; test -f germanb.perl || ln -s german.perl germanb.perl) (cd $1/texinputs; test -f html.sty || ln -s html2e.sty html.sty) == $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/pkg-order== #! /bin/sh set -e echo 2 `pwd` (cd $1; test -f Package || ln -s Debian/Package; ) == -- The price of success in philosophy is triviality. Glymour. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
Re: Netscape Toolbar Icon
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:27:58AM +0700, UF Marpaung wrote: I've installed Netscape and Navigator45 in my Debian system. I use WindowMaker and Enlightenment. But why icon images in Navigator's toolbar look bad ? only 2 color (black and white) Any suggestion ? What color depth are you using in X? Probably 8 bit (default). Netscape is a colour hog. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: SQL packages
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 10:51:28PM -0600, Adam Keys wrote: a) compatible with sql server? so far as odbc, mysql and postgreSQL offer odbc, which is probably how you connect to your server. the tables, however, are stored in a binary format in sql server (AFAIK), while mysql stores the data in flat text files. you're going to need to do some SQL trickery to move the data Err, it does? It doesn't here. There's just no way you can get decent speed from text files. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: slink vs. staroffice 5.0
Ben Messinger wrote: I had staroffice 5.0 working under hamm, but it broke when I updated to slink. I am assuming due to differences in libc.so.6 between hamm and slink. Is this right? Is there a way to keep slink and still get staroffice working again? Everything else I use is working fine. False alarm. Somehow I lost an environment variable I had previously set. All is well now.
Re: DB2 progress - success!
DB2 success! Joey Hess clued me in, the RPM scripts weren't being run, so I changed the /bin/rpm hack script to this: #!/bin/sh alien --to-deb --scripts -i $2 With the noted symlinks: /bin/awk - /usr/bin/gawk /bin/basename - /usr/bin/basename /bin/compress - /usr/bin/compress /bin/grep - /usr/bin/grep /bin/egrep - /usr/bin/egrep /bin/sed - /usr/bin/sed /bin/touch - /usr/bin/touch Installation proceeded. I can now start the database, catalog a node, connect to the sample database ... it's looking pretty healthy. Next, getting the web control center to work :) Colin.
Re: Netscape Toolbar Icon
On Fri Jan 22, 1999 at 06:54:05PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:27:58AM +0700, UF Marpaung wrote: I've installed Netscape and Navigator45 in my Debian system. I use WindowMaker and Enlightenment. But why icon images in Navigator's toolbar look bad ? only 2 color (black and white) Any suggestion ? What color depth are you using in X? Probably 8 bit (default). Netscape is a colour hog. It also tends to do this with some X servers in 24 bit colour. Try 16 or 32 bit colour instead. Pat
video_TV cards help
Hello For few days now, I've been honted by a 'need to upgrade' video out of my PII engine... I would like to know some of Your views/experiences on my list of 'would_be' solutions: (ASUS P2L97 AGP Mainboard rev 2.04; I am looking for AGP card with optional TV tuner and/or grabb./video_conf. functinality) AGP V3400TNT , 128bit RIVA-TNT based AGP V1326, SiS 6326 based AGP V2740, Intel 740 based AGP V385GX2 , S3 ViRGE/GX2 based Or should I settle for say Matrox G200 AGP and look for grabber_card only? ..and yes, I've read all that can be found on V4L pages, and like what is there...right now I'd like to know about Your working slutions with upper listed...if any? jk --- Expirience is something you don't get until just after you need it! ---
Re: Learning more/Linux programming books
Andreas Sliwka wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: I don't know, I think if there were a language to start newbies out on, it is perl. Don't have to worry about many of the things that other languages force upon you yet gives you a good gounding in how those other languages work. Heaven, no! I think its quite a sinn to give perl to a newbie, perl corrupts. I use Perl since two years and I quite like it, but only because I can choose to use either imperative or oop thinking in perl and I dont have to every variable. And thats the reason why a newbie should start with a a structured language like java (oop), pascal (imperative) or scheme (functional/lists oriented), so she/he learns to order hers/his thoughts and get a habit of problem solving. Perl gives you every opportunity to everything in one or two or in any other way, and I don't think that this is a good start in programming ... soryy, my 2 euros May I add my 2 euros as well, though I didn't read everything in this discussion? I think that OO analysis and design is fundamental for mastering OO programming. My prefered refernces are Meyer, Booch and Raumbaugh (OMT). I think I'd better hide under the table to avoid the flames :-). Mamoun -- Mamoun ALISSALI LIUM Tel: (33-2) -02-43 83 38 47 UNIVERSITE DU MAINEFax: (33-2) -02-43 83 38 68 Avenue Olivier MessiaenE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 72085 LE MANS CEDEX 9 http://www-ic2.univ-lemans.fr/~alissali
Re: Debian goes big business?
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: Laurent Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ChL == Christian Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ChL Bottom line: Debian should remain developer controlled. What about non-developper users ? Shouldn't they have a word to say, even if they can't or do not have the time to contribute with code ? They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are free to follow or ignore. But they do not, and should not, IMO, have the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy. Users are not developers and shouldn't presume to be. i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly. users are not developers, but they might be one day. one of the good things about debian is that users who are willing to put in some work CAN join up as developers. i started that way a few years ago, and i'll bet that most debian developers did too. craig -- craig sanders
Re: Debian goes big business?
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 20:26:12 +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: Laurent Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about non-developper users ? Shouldn't they have a word to say, even if they can't or do not have the time to contribute with code ? They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are free to follow or ignore. But they do not, and should not, IMO, have the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy. Users are not developers and shouldn't presume to be. i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly. I would. Ben's phrasing strongly reminds me of Robert A. Heinlein; especially of the concept of TANSTAAFL and the political system he describes in Starship Troopers, where the right to vote must be earned through a tour of duty of public (not necessary military) service. In the case of Debian, users do not have the right of vote, but can earn it by becoming developers (i.e. by maintaining packages, but also by writing documentation, maintaining the website etc.). Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
HotWire Fax software
I was looking for some decent fax software that I could use in the X enviroment and came across the HotWire link at http://www.linuxresources.com Good I thought and downloaded the file into my home directory. I tarred the fileand did ./lxinstall, then started x and did ./HotWire. The programme seemed to initialise but then nothing. Now i'm getting local mail with the following format: Subject: Cron PATH=$PATH; 'cat /etc/HotWire' /bin:;export PATH; hwdespool.sh X-Cron-Env:SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env:PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin X-Cron-Env:HOME=/root X-Cron-Env:LOGNAME=root cat:/etc/HotWire:Nosuch file or directory /bin/sh:hwdespool.sh:command not found _ It is not a .deb package but claims to work on all Linux flavours. My Unix experience is limited so if anyone can help me with the install and configuration i'd be grateful. Best Regards, Stephen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unix98 pty system
hi Ship's Log, Lt. Jonathan P Tomer, Stardate 210199.1948: ok, so if i grab glibc2.1 i can use unix98 ptys? or will everything break on glibc2.1? I have it swiched on for quit a while (2.1.*) without a prob. I use libc 2.0.7v right now. Greetings -- Alexander N. Benner[EMAIL PROTECTED]#Ixthys,#Baptist What is the chance of us living Some of our simplest dreams Are all the structures we build here Really as frail as they seem Anne Clark NOTHING AT ALL Joined Up Writeings
Compiling my own kernel
Hi I finnaly did it! I compiled my first kernel! Everything went (sort of) smoothly except for one thing. I got the kernel-source package from potato (2.0.36) and kernel-headers (is this one necessary?). I also got kernel-package! I made make xconfig. make dep; make clean. and then make-kpgp --revision=0.1 kernel_image it compiles ok but in the end i get : test -f System.map cp System.map \ debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.36 test -f System.map chmod 644 \ debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.36 dpkg-gencontrol -pkernel-image-2.0.36-i586 -Pdebian/tmp-image/ dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.0.36-i586 not in control info make: *** [stamp-image] Error 29 So i dont have a deb of my kernel, but i got it in debian/tmp-image/boot so everything is ok. I just wanted to know what did i do wrong! Thanks -- Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf
Re: bash programming question
You could put the find in a separate script:
find . -print0 | xargs -r0 somestuff.sh
If you go that way, you can just
find . -exec somestuff.sh {} \;
(You might need quotes around the {}.)
Jiri
what is /dev/rvndiptcomsk
Hi, yesterday i installed mtr on my debian 2.0 hamm system today (as reported by Tripwire) i see a new file on my system: /dev/rvndiptcomsk ls -al /dev/rvndiptcomsk gives : srwxr-xr-x root root 0 from where did that file come ? what is it's use ? (it's not in dpkg -L mtr nor in Contents-i386) Thanks for your help Patrick
lilo config
As far as I noticed I didn t see any to to config lilo with a windows partition. I done it by hand few month ago but I needed and initrd file If I am right. On my actual installation which is lighter I don t get it any more. What can i do !! Thomas -- Today's thinking : I'am not able to think Today .. (Recursively) Thomas MANGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maitrise Informatique de Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] +33 6 60 97 91 01 http://www.kernel.org http://themes.org http://www.berlin-consortium.org http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html
part 2 of what is /dev/rvndiptcomsk
Ok sorry guys, i think i've found just after sending the email... i forgot to tell you i installed iptraf also and /dev/rvndiptcomsk seems to be used by rvnamed which is used by iptraf to do reverse DNS lookup without blocking if that was written somewhere in the documentation of iptraf sorry Patrick
Re: slink vs. staroffice 5.0
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 07:50:49PM -0800, Ben Messinger wrote: I had staroffice 5.0 working under hamm, but it broke when I updated to slink. I am assuming due to differences in libc.so.6 between hamm and slink. Is this right? Is there a way to keep slink and still get staroffice working again? Everything else I use is working fine. I'm using Debian/GNU Linux 2.1 slink - system with some potato: wmaker, libwraster1 because the wmaker from slink breaks during installation the wmaker from potato not, however, ?? last update made on 22.01.1999 soffice 5.0 still works, very slow I think but works I have had some problems using it under wmaker, but I think that was on a Debian/GNU 2.0 (hamm), can't remember correctly. eventually You should try icewm, I'm using so5 with no problems under icewm(my favorite) maybe You must update some packages, or did You use the libc6 which come with the staroffice-package if so try using the normally libc6, which is +++-===-==- ii libc6 2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: shared libraries ii libc6-dbg 2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: Debugging and Profiling libraries. ii libc6-dev 2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: Development libraries and header f ii libc6-pic 2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: PIC archive library -- Peter Berlau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slink vs. staroffice 5.0
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:05:35AM -0800, Ben Messinger wrote: Hi Ben, saw Your message false alarm sorry, -- Peter Berlau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jdk1.1 java and Swing (JFC1.1)
I tried the SwingSet and another example. I could not do the windows look and feel. The windows.tar file is there, but it did not work. It said that look and feel is not supported. Ever have that happen? What's the solution? Thanks, Michael
AWE32_SYNTH
Hi, Im upgrade my Debian/GNU 2.1 (slink) to kernel 2.0.36-2, unfortuanelety I lost sound-support for my SaoundBlaster AWE 64 (plug and pray) ISA-Slot-Card, however. I could restore the awe-drv and rerun the install.sh script Sound Driver:3.5.4-960630 (Thu Jan 21 16:31:02 CET 1999 root, Linux pmurmel 2.0.36 #1 Thu Jan 21 16:14:29 CET 1999 i586 unknown) Kernel: Linux pmurmel 2.0.36 #1 Thu Jan 21 16:31:20 CET 1999 i586 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM Type 2: Sound Blaster Type 7: SB MPU-401 Card config: Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 9 drq 3,7 SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 9 OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0 Audio devices: 0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.16) Synth devices: 0: Yamaha OPL-3 Midi devices: 0: Sound Blaster 16 Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster therefore it looks ok, if system comes up isapnp initializes the wavetables, gameport, etc ok-status but one problem stays in the kernelconfiguration I never see a: Config for AD_LIB Config for AWE32_SYNTH, so I have no awe specific midi-output what do I wrong, please help thanks a lot -- Peter Berlau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]
I wrote: [...] Only if we let it. We're not animals. We're human. We can control ourselves. Just because it rarely happens doesn't mean it can't happen. It can happen, of course, it's just that it's different. Such a situation most likely deteriorates into soem are more equal than others, as known from Aldous Huxley. ^ Actually George Orwell. Sorry. But both are phantastic :-) I do think it possible, mind you, but I also think it would pose some problems that otherwise would never arise. But then, with the right attitude anything is possible. [...]
Re: debian installation
rod peters wrote: I need some help. I have been trying to install debian for severl weeks. Today got me the most progress so far. I had my installation almost running but I think I put in a wrong video or monitor value and my system started blinking every half second. It was locked up so I rebooted. Same thing. Now, I have selected the packages for home user(graphics,sound,X yadda yadda), but when I install, I get too many errors, quitting install and as its installing the packages that do get installed, often it says error files missing. Do I have a bad CD? I have been fighting with this for a long time. I thought I almost had it, then I made a mistake, and now I can't get that far for nothin'. I have even d'loaded the floppy images from the site to see if they work. Nope. Maybe I'm not meant to run Linux. It sounds like you've gotten through the base install okay. After partitioning your drive and selecting device drivers and configuring your keyboard and installing the base system, you rebooted and then were given the option to choose a type of system (home user (graphics, sound, X, yadda yadda)). This indicates that the basic Linux system is there (and when I say basic, I mean just barely functional; no man pages nor 'nuthin'). This is good. Now the post-installer script has chosen a number of packages for you that are suitable for home use and has copied them from the CD to a directory on your system as .deb files. Then the script calls dpkg/dselect (the Debian installer/maintenance program) to install those .deb packages. Probably most of the packages have been successfully installed. If you as root run dselect and choose the Install and/or Configure options, dselect will again try to install/configure the packages that haven't been successfully installed. When it dies due to too many errors (or for whatever reason), it should give you a list of the things it couldn't install. Most likely it's the X Window system/XF86Configure file that is one of the problem packages. Let us know that list says, and we'll have a little bit better idea of where to go from there. Or, of my assumptions are all wrong, let us know better where you're at in the installation process.
Re: Debian goes big business?
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are free to follow or ignore. But they do not, and should not, IMO, have the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy. Users are not developers and shouldn't presume to be. i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly. users are not developers, but they might be one day. one of the good things about debian is that users who are willing to put in some work CAN join up as developers. I guess that that's the corollary to what I'm saying. If users want to have a stronger in say in whether their advice is followed, they should be become developers. It's not that hard, and doesn't take that long. -- ...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver. --Daniel Pead
Re: Mount cd
Henrik Hundebøl wrote: How do i mount cd and floppy in debian and how do i get my internet to work Please ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *** Fatal Error: Found [MS-Windows], repartitioning Disk for Linux ... Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: lilo config
As far as I noticed I didn t see any to to config lilo with a windows partition. I done it by hand few month ago but I needed and initrd file If I am right. On my actual installation which is lighter I don t get it any more. What can i do !! Thomas Say again? It's kind of hard to understand what you tried to say here. You don't have to do anything with initrd, just write lilo.conf and run lilo. Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
Re: what cd-writer ?
I hate to disagree but... the symbios cards are great and they are generaly cheaper, faster and less trouble. *--* Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *--* Voice: 425.739.4247 *--* Fax: 425.827.9577 *--* HTTP://www.otak-k.com/~lawrence/ -- - - - - - - O t a k i n c . - - - - - On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Daniel J. Brosemer wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:57:08PM -0500, Odin wrote: snipped for obfuscation Can you recommend an inexpensive PCI SCSI card to go with a Yamaha? Right now, I have two ATAPI hard drives and an ATAPI DVD drive connected to a motherboard IDE controller. I was planning on purchasing a HP ATAPI drive, but after hearing about several bad experiences with ATAPI drives, I'm interested in a SCSI-based external one. Well, I can't in good conscience reccommend anything but an adaptec. I've heard (but not experienced) that a zip-plus will erase data on a scsi hdd when not connected to an adaptec. There are other reasons, though, like support, speed, _very_ nice bios, etc. You'll pay for the niceness, but in my opinion, well worth it. If you're planning on just using your CD-R on your SCSI chain, then you don't need Ultra Wide or even SCSI-3, just get yourself a good SCSI-2 (you don't even need that, but room to expand is good, and good luck finding a Narrow SCSI-1 anymore.) If you're not buying for a corporation, my suggestion would be to watch the online auctions, sometimes they have adaptec cards. -Dan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Gnome
Hi people I want to install Gnome on Slink but don't want to scatter new versions of the libraries (eg gtk) arround anywhere. Does anyone know if you can compile it like KDE where it looks for all libraries relative to a partciular install path (eg /usr/local/gnome) so the apps that come with Slink can continue using the old libraries. Also this would be usefull for cleanup if when the next release is out (rm -Rf /usr/local/gnome). Thanks Pat
Re: Gnome
Hi Pat, I want to install Gnome on Slink but don't want to scatter new versions of the libraries (eg gtk) arround anywhere. Does anyone know if you can compile it like KDE where it looks for all libraries relative to a partciular install path (eg /usr/local/gnome) so the apps that come with Slink can continue using the old libraries. Also this would be usefull for cleanup if when the next release is out (rm -Rf /usr/local/gnome). Just run every configure script with option --prefix=/opt/gnome or whatever. Some tweaking in /etc/ld.so.conf and /etc/profile might be neccessary then. Bye, Tino.
lilo.conf~ syntax question??
olleh i am trying to configure Lilo to give me a choice between booting NT,win98, and Linux...first, how do i determine what partition the MS O.S.'s (i.e. hda2,3, etc...) reside on...once i have determined where they dwell, should i use the following syntax in lilo.conf to give me the choice between O.S.'s? other = /dev/hda4 # your dos partition, if any table = /dev/hda # the current partition table label = dos # or any non-fancy name If this syntax is correct...i guess i only need to know how to determine where nt and 98 are...thanks in advanced ramon
Debian on a ThinkPad 380Z
Has anyone installed Linux on a ThinkPad 380z ? Any problems, suggestions...? Matthew
Re: Gnome
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Patrick Colbeck wrote: I want to install Gnome on Slink but don't want to scatter new versions of the libraries (eg gtk) arround anywhere. Does anyone know if you can compile it like KDE where it looks for all libraries relative to a partciular install path (eg /usr/local/gnome) so the apps that come with Slink can continue using the old libraries. Also this would be usefull for cleanup if when the next release is out (rm -Rf /usr/local/gnome). Gnome uses GNU configure, I think. So when you untar a package, one of the first things the installation will tellyou to do is run ./configure -- you can just run ./configure --prefix==/usr/local/gnome to make everything end up in /usr/local/gnome. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | --
[kirk@braille.uwo.ca: question on keyboard menu choice.] (fwd)
hello my debian friends, can somebody on this list help me and/or us. Paul -- Forwarded message -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Kirk Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: question on keyboard menu choice.] --- Start of forwarded message --- From: Kirk Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-boot@lists.debian.org Subject: question on keyboard menu choice. Dear Sir: I was hoping you might be able to answer a question or two, and help me solve a problem I am having building a special boot disk set. We have written a set of kernel drivers to provide speech output on the console. As part of these patches we build special keymaps to build into the kernel or load with loadkeys. We have started making a set of debian distribution disks with our modified kernel on them. We have no problem until we get to the select keyboarde choice in the installation menu. If we select u.s. our keyboard review functions are overwritten. What we have done is dump a binary keymap file and named it us.bmap to try to get around the problem. I assumed that the us.bmap file was unpacked and loaded once a person selected us keymap at the menu choice. Unfortunately, it just appears to clear the keymap and not actually load the keymap. At least I don't think so because the keymaps.tgz file is still intact after that point and there does not seem to be any sign of the keymaps being unpacked. If we try to by pass the menu choice, things go fine until we get down to installing the base system. We get an unable to find kbdconf, I believe at the time zone prompt. The system seems to just go back to the menu at that point. If you could clear up exactly what goes on at the keyboard choice, that would be very useful. I have looked through as much documentation as I have found so far, and have not been able to find a discussion of the actual installation process. That is not to say one doesn't exist, I just ain't found it yet. Anyway, any help you could give me would certainly be appreciated. Kirk --- End of forwarded message ---
Re: lilo config
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:51:30PM +0100, Thomas MANGIN wrote: As far as I noticed I didn t see any to to config lilo with a windows partition. I done it by hand few month ago but I needed and initrd file If I am right. On my actual installation which is lighter I don t get it any more. What can i do !! Thomas, I'm not sure what you are asking. Maybe you are just asking simply for an example of lilo.conf that boots Linux or Windows? If so, this may help. If not, this dialog may at least clear up what you need. boot=/dev/hda3 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=50 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux root=/dev/hda3 read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=Win95 Regards, MikeT -- Michael E. Touloumtzis mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ingres Product Development Computer Associates International
gnome
I have been meaning to ask this for a while; I have installed what I believe are all the most recent gnome libs and apps from potato. The apps that I would like to use the most are gnomecard and balsa both range from moderately broken to just broken. I got the cvs versions of both and tried to compile them, they both stop when they look for gnome.h what package has it? *--* Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *--* Voice: 425.739.4247 *--* Fax: 425.827.9577 *--* HTTP://www.otak-k.com/~lawrence/ -- - - - - - - O t a k i n c . - - - - -
Re: Mount cd
Henrik Hundebøl wrote: How do i mount cd and floppy in debian and how do i get my internet to work If you have got IDE cdrom you have to do : mount /dev/hdx /cdrom where x=a primary IDE master x=b primary IDE slave x=c secondary IDE master x=d secondary IDE slave (the /cdrom directory have to exist) To mount floppy just do nearly the same : mount /dev/fd0 /floppy If you have gor scsi cdrom, the device is different. Franck --- Franck Le Gall 147, rue basse - 14000 Caen tél. : 02-31-93-29-09 mobile : 06-62-34-03-52 e.mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
floppy disk multitasking problems
Hello fellow users! I've a rather general technical question. Floppy drives have been around for who knows how much time. But even more, it seems that they originated not from multitasking OSs like UN*X and Linux, but from Macs and PCs running DOS. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that whenever I mount a floppy, the whole Linux multitsking stops. It is as though the mounting of a floppy is an uninteruptable process. Maybe HDDs are relatively fast, but I never notice such problems when mounting them. What is the reason for the delay in the system when floppies are mounted? why it doesn't effect HDDs, they are also physical drives? Buffer problems? TIA. sasha. _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file:
What should I do to avoid the following error? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ gtop gtop: error in loading shared libraries libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ dpkg --status gtop Package: gtop Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 176 Maintainer: Ian Lynagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 0.28.1-5 Depends: gdk-imlib1, libc6 (= 2.0.7u), libglib1.1 (= 1.1.3-2), libgnome0 (= 0.30.1-2), libgtk1.1 (= 1:1.1.2-2), libgtop1 (= 0.26.2-4), libjpeg62, libjpegg6a, libpng2, libtiff3g, libungif3g (= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (= 3.0-5.2), xlib6g (= 3.3-5), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3) Description: Graphical TOP variant The graphical version of top provides an easy interface to process control on a GNU/Linux system. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ -- Looking for a cutting edge | Christophe Broult software validation technology? | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Check http://www.info.unicaen.fr/lpv | ``Smile, chuckle, giggle''
vfat - cp: file: Operation not permitted
Hi! I've mounted a vfat partition with these options: /dev/hda2 /mnt/dos vfatdefaults,gid=101,umask=0007 and whenever a user in the 101 group tries a copy a file within the filesystem it gets the following error: cp: file: Operation not permitted Altough the file actually gets copied. Is there any way to avoid this message? TIA! -- p.
Re: libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file:
In foo.debian-user, you wrote: What should I do to avoid the following error? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ gtop gtop: error in loading shared libraries libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ dpkg --status gtop Package: gtop Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 176 Maintainer: Ian Lynagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 0.28.1-5 Depends: gdk-imlib1, libc6 (= 2.0.7u), libglib1.1 (= 1.1.3-2), libgnome0 (= 0.30.1-2), libgtk1.1 (= 1:1.1.2-2), libgtop1 (= 0.26.2-4), libjpeg62, libjpegg6a, libpng2, libtiff3g, libungif3g (= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (= 3.0-5.2), xlib6g (= 3.3-5), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3) Description: Graphical TOP variant The graphical version of top provides an easy interface to process control on a GNU/Linux system. You can try upgrading or reinstalling libglib1.1 (note: this may require other upgrades... gtk, etc) -Mitch
..de.debian.org
What's up with the ...de.debian.org servers? A DNS problem perhaps?
Re: ..de.debian.org
Thomas Adams wrote: What's up with the ...de.debian.org servers? A DNS problem perhaps? No, there is no DNS problem, but apparently their uplink is broken at the moment. Please try other mirrors for the time being. bye, -Remco
Re: vfat - cp: file: Operation not permitted
Hi there, I've mounted a vfat partition with these options: /dev/hda2 /mnt/dos vfatdefaults,gid=101,umask=0007 and whenever a user in the 101 group tries a copy a file within the filesystem it gets the following error: cp: file: Operation not permitted Altough the file actually gets copied. Is there any way to avoid this message? No, there is probably not. It comes from the fact that cp tries to set some permissions on the destination file. That is actually not possible for VFAT. (I would prefer VFAT to silently ignore that) Bye, Tino.
xdm
Thanks to all who have helped me get X up and running. I'm using xdm to start my X sessions (not sure if I'll keep it). A few more questions: 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the graphical xdm login? 2. If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx). .3 Does xdm put any limitations on using gnome if I decide to use that in the future? Thanks, Brian Morgan
Re: DeskJet 870
At 1/21/99 04:21 PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote: Could anyone tell me how to make my DeskJet 870 operate under Debian? For example, a filter for Magicfilter or whichever. My Djet 870Cxi is on a NT system that Debian still accesses via LPR. But I did at one point have it hooked up and shared from Debian. Here is how it looked in my printcap: dj|djet870|HP Deskjet 870:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/djet870:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: I will say that I did have problem with the magicfilter program. The actual 550c driver that it installed filter would not execute. I don't know if that was a bug or not, I got a new copy of that filter (older version maybe) and put it in its place, and I have never had a problem. I will attach the driver I use (4.73k). Other than that, you need to have the queue created in /var/spool/lpd: drwxrwxr-x 2 lp lp 1024 Dec 16 09:36 djet870/ ..you can use a 'cp -a lp djet870' in the /var/spool/lpd directory, and that should handle it for you. I know all of this sounds manual, but if the magicfilter install was a bit much, this could be an easier route for you. Hope it helps --Jay#! /usr/sbin/magicfilter # # Magic filter setup file for HP DeskJet 500 series color printers with # only CMY cartridge installed # # This file has been automatically adapted to your system. # # PostScript 0 %! filter /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 -sDEVICE=cdj500 -sOutputFile=\|cat 13 - 31 12 0 \004%! filter /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 -sDEVICE=cdj500 -sOutputFile=\|cat 13 - 31 12 # PDF 0 %PDFfpipe /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 -sDEVICE=cdj500 -sOutputFile=\|cat 13 $FILE 31 12 # TeX DVI 0 \367\002fpipe /usr/bin/dvips -D 300 -R -q -f # compress'd data 0 \037\235pipe/bin/gzip -cdq # packed, gzipped, frozen and SCO LZH data 0 \037\036pipe/bin/gzip -cdq 0 \037\213pipe/bin/gzip -cdq 0 \037\236pipe/bin/gzip -cdq 0 \037\240pipe/bin/gzip -cdq # troff documents 0 .\?\?\040 fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` 0 .\\\ fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` 0 '\\\ fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` 0 '.\\\ fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` 0 \\\fpipe `/usr/bin/grog -Tps $FILE` # ditroff 0 x T pspipe/usr/bin/grops 0 x T dvi pipe/usr/bin/grodvi 0 x T ascii pipe/usr/bin/grotty 0 x T latin1pipe/usr/bin/grotty 0 x T lj4 reject Cannot print LaserJet 4 ditroff files. # Portable bit-, grey- and pixmaps 0 P1\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 300 2/dev/null 0 P2\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 300 2/dev/null 0 P3\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 300 2/dev/null 0 P4\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 300 2/dev/null 0 P5\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 300 2/dev/null 0 P6\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops -scale 1000 -dpi 300 2/dev/null # HP Printer Control Language (PCL) -- assume start with reset code 0 \033E\033 cat # HP Printer Job Language (PJL) 0 \033%-12345Xreject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 0 @PJL reject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 0 @PJL\t reject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 0 @PJL\r reject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 0 @PJL\n reject Cannot print PJL files on this printer. # GIF files 0 GIF87a pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm 2/dev/null 0 GIF89a pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm 2/dev/null # JFIF (JPEG) files 0 \377\330\377\340\?\?JFIF\0 pipe/usr/bin/djpeg -pnm # TIFF files (the last two bytes of the magic is really a version number; # but the magic is really lame and as far as I have understood the version # number has never changed and never will, so we include it.) 0 MM\0\x2afpipe /usr/bin/tiff2ps $FILE 0 II\x2a\0fpipe /usr/bin/tiff2ps $FILE # BMP files (even lousier magic -- Microsoft strikes again!) 0 BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x0c pipe\ /usr/bin/bmptoppm 2/dev/null 0 BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x40 pipe\ /usr/bin/bmptoppm 2/dev/null 0 BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x28 pipe\ /usr/bin/bmptoppm 2/dev/null # Garbage delivered from Windows via Samba # (donated by Andree Leidenfrost [EMAIL PROTECTED]) # 300 \033\052\157cat # later changed to # (Bug report #22866: magicfilter: Incorrect magic for Win95/Samba print jobs) 0 \000\000\000\000\000 cat #
Re: xdm
In a message dated 1/22/99 12:05:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the graphical xdm login? You should already have both - starting xdm doesn't prevent the console login from starting, it just switches your display window. To get to your console login, hit CTL-ALT-F1 (F1 thru F6, actually). To switch back to your X session, hit CTL-ALT-F6. 2. If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx). /etc/X11/window-managers .3 Does xdm put any limitations on using gnome if I decide to use that in the future? I can't imagine it would, but I don't use GNOME. However I do use KDE and have no problems with that environment. Also, I can use either xdm or kdm with KDE for my logins. -Jay
Re: xdm
1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the graphical xdm login? /etc/X11/config file has one/more lines, depending on the version you use, that mention xdm. For example, start-xdm If you want to get rid of xdm, comment that line out. 2. If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx). /etc/X11/windows-managers holds a path to window manager that gets started at the startup. I also modified the Xsession file in there, at the very end, where it executed twm in some cases. Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
