NAVEGANTE NEÓFITA
Acudo a su prestigiosa institucin en busca de informacin respecto a: CONCILIACION ENTRE LO CONTABLE Y LO FISCAL SOBERANIA NACIONAL. Existen servidores pblicos que contengan temas contables y derecho internacional?. Dnde podra estar almacenada esta informacin?. Con cual servidor ftp me conecto?. Con quienes podra comunicarme para mayor informacin?. Agradezco sinceramente la ayuda que ustedes me puedan prestar ya que es esta informacin es de gran importancia para el buen desarrollo de mi trabajo acadmico. Deseandoles muchos xitos en sus labores me despido de ustedes. PATRICIA VEGA MOLANOProfesora UNIBOYACA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CUENTEN CON MI COLABORACION PARA EL INTERCAMBIO DE ARCHIVOS SOBRE CUALQUIER TEMA
Mirror de distribuciones
He intentado usar el paquete mirror pero tengo el problema de los links simbolicos de las narices. Es decir, que se baja los links simbolicos y no los ficheros a los que apunta. Esto es un problema cuando quiero bajarme unstable/main He probado con wget pero tambien me da ese problema. Hay una opcion en mirror que es: follow_local_symlinks none Regexp of pathnames of local symbolic links. Rather than treating them as symlinks the target files or directories they reference are used instead. This makes local symlinks invisible to mirror. ¿cómo se usa esto? qué he de poner en Regex? Gracias. Rafa C. Marcos BCN Art Directe (Promotora d'Art) http://www.bcnartdirecte.com Info on Euroart'99 and Index·Art at: http://www.bcnartdirecte.com
Netscape y rendimiento
Aviso: Ayer descubrí por qué el K62-3D que tenemos en el club de la facultad iba lentísimo. Resulta que el netscape-communicator hay veces que no muere y aunque el usuario haga un logout el netscape sigue Running chupando CPU. Total que tenía 3 netscapes funcionando a tutti plen y nada más matarlos todo volvió a la normalidad. Con ps aux salen los procesos y con who salen los usuarios que están login. Supongo que se podría hacer un script para poner en el cron que se cargara los netscapes que están colgados... a ver si me pongo. ;) Best regards, Rafa C. Marcos BCN Art Directe (Promotora d'Art) http://www.bcnartdirecte.com Info on Euroart'99 and Index·Art at: http://www.bcnartdirecte.com
Re: Netscape y rendimiento
Rafael Cordones Marcos wrote: Con ps aux salen los procesos y con who salen los usuarios que están login. Supongo que se podría hacer un script para poner en el cron que se cargara los netscapes que están colgados... a ver si me pongo. ;) Eso no es dificil, se enseña en cualquier asignatura de SO. Aqui tienes un ejemplo: --- #!/bin/sh # Programa para matar netscapes que no tienen usuarios conectados PROCESOS=`ps axh| grep netscape | cut -f 1 -d ' '` #echo Procesos: $PROCESOS for p in $PROCESOS do #echo Procesando: $p USUARIO=`ps auxh $p | cut -f 1 -d ' '` #echo Usuario: $USUARIO who | grep $USUARIO /dev/null if (($?)) then echo El proceso $p no tiene usuario activo kill -9 $p fi done -- Hasta mas bits, -- - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez LAB. 2.3.4 Tlf.: (95) 2132863 http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html - La medida de programar es programar sin medida
RE: modems
Queridos amigos: quiero elegir un modem para el debian me ayudan? cual funciona mejor? gracias un saludo de argentina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape y rendimiento
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Jose Luis Trivino wrote: Rafael Cordones Marcos wrote: Con ps aux salen los procesos y con who salen los usuarios que están login. Supongo que se podría hacer un script para poner en el cron que se cargara los netscapes que están colgados... a ver si me pongo. ;) Eso no es dificil, se enseña en cualquier asignatura de SO. Aqui tienes un ejemplo: Esto es todavía más facil: killall netscape Sin mosqueos porfa ;-) --- #!/bin/sh # Programa para matar netscapes que no tienen usuarios conectados PROCESOS=`ps axh| grep netscape | cut -f 1 -d ' '` #echo Procesos: $PROCESOS for p in $PROCESOS do #echo Procesando: $p USUARIO=`ps auxh $p | cut -f 1 -d ' '` #echo Usuario: $USUARIO who | grep $USUARIO /dev/null if (($?)) then echo El proceso $p no tiene usuario activo kill -9 $p fi done -- Hasta mas bits, -- - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez LAB. 2.3.4 Tlf.: (95) 2132863 http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html - La medida de programar es programar sin medida -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- En caso de contestar a la lista mandame copia personal. /\ /\ Los mas importantes desarrolladores de Bases de datos \\W//están portando sus productos a Linux. Porque crees tu _|0 0|_ que será ?Yo creo que Linux es el futuro. +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+
sonido+
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ¿No será que tu tarjeta es pnp y al venir de W95-dos la tienes inicializado y por eso funciona y cuando entras directamente en linux como no tienes inicializado el pnp no te funciona? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Creo que te has olvidado de decirnos que tarjeta tienes. Cierto, que torpe soy. Para poder usar el mixer (y cambiar el volumen y escuchar los CD's) tienes que cargar el módulo de la tarjeta. Si no te apetece meterte con el PnP, échale un vistazo al manual de tu tarjeta de sonido, a ver que valores toma por omisión Yo tengo funcionando una SoundBlaster 16 PnP con los valores por omisión sin utilizar las isapnotools para nada. Bueno, gracias por la ayuda. Lo cierto es que no tengo ninguna documentacion de mi vieja tarjeta, pero se que es una compatible sound blaster ISA, por eso supongo que es igual que tu 'SoundBlaster 16 PnP' ¿Qué es eso de isapnotools? ¿Puedo indicarle al kernel que cargue algún módulo estándar de sonido al arrancar? ¿Se puede inicializar PnP mediante algún comando? No me veo con valor de ponerme a recompilar el kernel ni cosas semejantes... Emilio
Re: Debian 2.1
Enrique Zanardi wrote: Aprovechando el retraso incorporaremos dos correcciones, una para el bug de seguridad que ha aparecido este fin de semana en el procmail (también es inoportuno el condenado) y otra para unos problemillas que tiene el dpkg cuando el superusuario tiene definido el locale como algo distinto de C o POSIX (lo cual por otro lado sigue siendo una práctica peligrosa en cualquier Linux porque puede producir efectos no deseados en otros programas/demonios. Se admiten informes de error y/o parches). :-) ¿Y esto ? ¿no es recomendable tener al root con el locale español? ¿que pasa con los su? -- Antonio Calvo Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vigo/Galicia/España --begin:vcard n:Calvo Rodriguez;Antonio x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Antonio Calvo Rodriguez end:vcard
pine y ispell
Hola! Alguien ha conseguido hacer funcionar el ispell en español con el pine? Yo lo he conseguido hacer funcionar, pero no me coge las palabras con acentos del pine. Gracias por adelantado por vuestra ayuda. -- p.
mkisofs
hola lista! donde puedo conseguir la version 1.2 de mkisofs,pues es la que sopporta la generacion de imagenes en formato joliet. cambiando de tema,he empezado a programar con la svgalib.segun el man de svgalib,si estoy leyendo el manual es que esta instalado,pero no encuentro ningun vga.h. alguien me puede ayudar?
Re: mkisofs
On Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 11:26:41PM +0100, jon wrote: donde puedo conseguir la version 1.2 de mkisofs,pues es la que sopporta la generacion de imagenes en formato joliet. joliet... ugh! ... usa mkhybrid. Marcelo
Re: Netscape y rendimiento
Antonio Castro wrote: Esto es todavía más facil: killall netscape Ya, pero con eso te fusilas también los procesos que estén funcionando correctamente, no sólo los que campen por ahí sin dueño. -- Un Saludo Han Solo The Rebel Alliance Conecto, luego existo. Desconecto, luego insisto. Soy usuario de infobirria+ P.D. La firma no es mía, sino de uno que trabajaba, precisamente, en M$. Vivir para ver.
Re: Mirror de distribuciones
Rafael Cordones Marcos wrote: He probado con wget pero tambien me da ese problema. Hay una opcion en mirror que es: Algo habrás hecho mal. Yo con el wget me he bajado un mirror completo del CPAN (670Mb), con múltiples enlaces simbólicos y ha funcionado sin problemas follow_local_symlinks none Regexp of pathnames of local symbolic links. Rather than treating them as symlinks the target files or directories they reference are used instead. This makes local symlinks invisible to mirror. ¿cómo se usa esto? qué he de poner en Regex? Se refiere a las expresiones regulares. De todas formas, ¿qué versión de wget tienes? En la(s) mía(a) pone: -m --mirror Turn on mirroring options. This will set recursion and time-stamping, combining -r and -N. Un Saludo Han Solo The Rebel Alliance Conecto, luego existo. Desconecto, luego insisto. Soy usuario de infobirria+ P.D. La firma no es mía, sino de uno que trabajaba, precisamente, en M$. Vivir para ver.
Re: Tradução dos potfiles da instalação da Debian par a português.
Oi gente, começamos a traduzir os potfiles do dinstall da Debian ontem, colocando no nosso CVS, mas lembrei que o Eduardo Macan tinha dito que já estava traduzindo. Em que pé você está? Digo mão ou qualquer coisa. :) Só pra lembrar, estou traduzindo o potfile do dpkg. Não quero pôr um prazo no meu trabalho, mas não devo levar mais de uma semana. -- Ja ne, Marcus Brito Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Que o amor não seja imortal, posto que é chama, Mas que seja infinito enquanto dure. -- Vinicius de Moraes
En: News Roundup for March 2, 1999
vale a pena tomar conhecimento!! t+ Clovis Sena -Mensagem original- De: Dave Whitinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: linux-news@linuxtoday.com linux-news@linuxtoday.com Data: Quarta-feira, 3 de Março de 1999 05:43 Assunto: News Roundup for March 2, 1999 -- Alan Cox reports on LinuxWorld Expo 2nd March 1999 will probably go down as the day proprietary Unix really died. http://www.uk.linux.org/ -- LWN reports on LinuxWorld Expo This conference is an interesting experience. Just look at the series of press releases that has come out this week to see how seriously the business world is now taking Linux. If there's one thing in the air here, it's that a lot of people are smelling money and want their part of it. Nothing too surprising there, I guess. http://lwn.net/daily/lw1.html -- AbiSource Pictures from LinuxWorld I just wanted to let everyone know that we're posting pictures from LinuxWorld on a href=http://www.abisource.com/~abi/;Abi's home page/a, including pictures from the SlashDot party last night. We update the photo gallery with new pix as often as we can. http://linuxtoday.com/stories/3651.html -- Call for Tradeshow Pictures If anyone has any pictures (of the LinuxWorld Conference and Expo) available on the web, use our A HREF=/contrib.plContrib form/A to tell us about them. http://linuxtoday.com/stories/3652.html -- PR Newswire: DecisionOne and VA Research Linux Systems Sign Letter of Intent To Form Technical Support Alliance DecisionOne Corporation and VA Research Linux Systems (VA) today signed a letter of intent for DecisionOne to provide twenty four-hours-a-day, seven-days-a-week North American support for VA's enterprise Linux solutions. Details are expected to be finalized within the next 30 days. The alliance will enable VA to scale its nationwide support to its thousands of existing customers and its growing base of enterprise Linux users. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CnTTWubWbueHuvtaYm -- Business Wire: Computer Associates and Red Hat Announce Far-Reaching Agreement to Accelerate Adoption of Linux in Corporate IT Environments CA And Red Hat Will Distribute One Million Copies Of Unicenter TNG. Framework Bundled With Red Hat Linux http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CnTTWubKbyte1ntC -- Highly Anticipated Linux Magazine to Debut at LinuxWorld Expo The much anticipated premier issue of Linux Magazine was announced today at LinuxWorld Expo in San Jose, California. According to Adam Goodman, the magazine's editor and publisher, Linux Magazine is a new publication focused on serving the growing number of Linux users worldwide. A Web site featuring news and links to other Linux sites will be launched concurrently with the magazine's print version. The aim for the Web site, http://www.linux-mag.com, is to become a Linux portal, a gateway to all of the news, information and technical data that will interest the Linux community. http://linuxtoday.com/stories/3628.html -- IBM launches biggest Linux lineup ever On March 2, at LinuxWorld, IBM announced support for Linux, the open-source operating system. The announcement, of planned key alliances, flagship products, and the industry's most comprehensive service offering, makes IBM the only company to provide complete solutions of hardware, software and technical support for Linux. http://linuxtoday.com/stories/3620.html -- Linux Gazette issue #38, March 1999 now available A HREF=http://www.linuxgazette.com;Linux Gazette/A...Making Linux just a little more fun! http://linuxtoday.com/stories/3619.html -- Corel to Bring Linux(R) to the Desktop Plans include 'invisible' Linux Operating System and user-friendly interface http://linuxtoday.com/stories/3618.html -- Already 20 Linux-related events scheduled in France for the `Fete de l'Internet' Already 20 Linux events (install parties, exhibitions, conferences,...) are scheduled in France for the a href=http://www.fete-internet.asso.fr/;Fete de l'Internet 1999/a (march 19 to 21). Check out a href=http://liberte.aful.org/fete-internet/actions.html;this page/a for a partial list. http://linuxtoday.com/stories/3616.html -- Business Wire: Softboat Inc. to Serve as Japanese Distributor for High C/C++/EC++ and SeeCode Software Partnership will offer Japanese Market a Local Distributor for Sales and Support of MetaWare Tools. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CnTTWubKbyteXmZu -- Business Wire: MetaWare Offers Integrated Development Environment for High C/C++ and SeeCode Integration with the CodeWright GUI and Editor Offers Developers a Complete Development Package. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CnTTWubKbyteXnd -- Business Wire: Linuxcare Launches World's Largest Open and Free Linux Information Repository Resource; Free Linuxcare Knowlegebase Designed to Serve Corporate Enterprises In Adoption of Linux Linuxcare, Inc. (www.linuxcare.com) the first company to provide a complete solution for Linux technical
Traducoes, inicio dos trabalhos. (LEIAM TODOS E DIVULGUEM)
Pessoal, vou dar inicio a coordenacao das traducoes do site e do que mais cair na minha mao para o Portugues. Preciso de voluntarios. Quem de voces estaria disposto a colaborar na traducao do Web Site da Debian? Uma outra tarefa, um pouco mais complexa, seria de coordenar a traducao da Documentacao do Debian. Eu digo um pouco mais complexa porque a documentacao do Debian esta em SGML e nao existe uma politica muito bem definida para traducoes ainda. O voluntario deveria se inscrever na lista debian-doc. Eu sugiro que o coordenador aprenda e seja capaz de ajudar os coordenados nas tarefas, mas que nao pegue muitas traducoes para si para nao se sobrecarregar e acabarmos tendo que nomear outro coordenador ;) Voltando a traducao da Web, o site foi escrito usando WML, um pacote fantastico para geracao de HTML( existe no Debian = 2.0 um pacote wml-blablabla.deb na secao web , com tutoriais e documentacao). Eu ja tenho a conta de acesso ao CVS do Debian, isso quer dizer que podemos iniciar os trabalhos imediatamente e publica-los on-line. Quanto aa documentacao Inedita que esta sendo escrita, sugiro que seja escrita segundo os padroes da Debian para que possamos torna-la parte do sistema. Enquanto isso, ofereco espaco no site linux.unicamp.br para abrigar a documentacao que voces tiverem produzido. O site do WML para os interessados e http://www.egenschall.com/wml Um abraco! --macan
Re: bash_profile in Debian same as .profile ?
On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 11:24:43PM -, Pollywog wrote: I just found out that in RedHat, .profile is called .bash_profile Is the same true in Debian? When I used OpenLinux, they were separate files. If I remember correctly, bash will look for .bash_profile first, and will fall through to using .profile if the former isn't found. You should be able to find the specifics with man bash - look for the INVOCATION section.
Re: Connection timed out Incorrect MD5Sum
At 01:17 PM 3/2/99 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I get this I switch sites in sources.list. Fixes it for me. I tried to do that but couldn't seem to find a site that would work for me. Does any ftp site work or do I have to use a http site. I couldn't get ftp sites to work and couldn't find any other http sites. Thanks for the help.
Re: Debian Packages compiled with PGCC
On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 02:41:03PM -0600, Eric wrote: I figure that they could have the important processor-intensive packages actually recompiled with PGCC and the rest of the things in binary-i686 would just be links to the packages in binary-i386. Definately. Pentium optimised vi or cp just isn't worth bothering about. I kind of prefer the build from source package option, though - it solves the much more general problem. As a side note, has anyone gotten PGCC to install _cleanly_? I got it functioning by copying files over from the expanded tarball...but it wasn't quite right. The --tell-gcc-lib (or something like that) with alien...that just didn't work well at all. It still installed itself in the /opt directory!?! What are you trying to install from? It builds perfectly happily from source into whatever directory you want (although I've not tried on Linux recently), and the last anyone told me the binary releases wanted to be put into /usr. It's not much hassle to build from source. [Reply-To: to me and the list, as the volume is killing me] -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
Re: Debian 2.1-Party: when?
So if the party was yesturday, when will the 2.1 be released ? The web page still says that 2.0 is the current release. __ Geoffrey Deasey/ /__ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / ( ) \ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / __ __ __ \ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / / / / _ \ / / / / / \ / /___ / / / / ) // (_/ / / /\ \ (__)(_/ (_/ (_/ \/ (_/ \_) _ On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, ktb wrote: It already happened, yesterday. Sorry, Kent Wolfgang Gernot Bauer wrote: Hi, I read in slashdot.org that there will be a party, celebrating Debian2.1. Just wondering why slashdot is faster than this list. So when and where will it happen (GMT, please). Tonight? Gery -- - Wolfgang Bauer SKWB Schoellerbank Aktiengesellschaft Sterneckstr. 5, 5024 Salzburg, Austria - Phone: ++43-662-8684-364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft does have a year 2000 problem - we're it. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian 2.1-Party: when?
humm on my birthday, do I get free cd's :) cool __ Geoffrey Deasey/ /__ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / ( ) \ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / __ __ __ \ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / / / / _ \ / / / / / \ / /___ / / / / ) // (_/ / / /\ \ (__)(_/ (_/ (_/ \/ (_/ \_) _ On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, ktb wrote: BTW there was an announcement on this list before it came out on /. You can read a transcript of part of the party at IRC #debian at, http://netgod.net/ I see the actual release will now be March 9th, so will there be another party? Kent Wolfgang Gernot Bauer wrote: Hi, I read in slashdot.org that there will be a party, celebrating Debian2.1. Just wondering why slashdot is faster than this list. So when and where will it happen (GMT, please). Tonight? Gery -- - Wolfgang Bauer SKWB Schoellerbank Aktiengesellschaft Sterneckstr. 5, 5024 Salzburg, Austria - Phone: ++43-662-8684-364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft does have a year 2000 problem - we're it. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: StarOffice 5
This is a HUGE difference. The multiuser patch was great! 12M for 4.0 to 140M with 5.0. Does anyone know if there was a multiuser patch for SO5 aswell? I like having a 12M user dir as opposed to a 140M dir. I haven't seen one. But at home here I'm only running the personal version and haven't toyed with the multiuser setup in 5.0. If you go to StarDivision's web site there is a link there somewhere to tied into their support newsgroups (lots of them). I'm sure someone in their support groups would be able to answer this specifically. -- Regards,| Microsoft -- innovative? Don't make me laugh. . | Randy | Subversion is always our best tactic. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | Microsoft Manager of Java Relations John Ludwig http://www.golgotha.net | (Quoted in Oct. 21, 1998 San Jose Mecury News)
Re: bash_profile in Debian same as .profile ?
On 02-Mar-99 Gregory T. Norris wrote: On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 11:24:43PM -, Pollywog wrote: I just found out that in RedHat, .profile is called .bash_profile Is the same true in Debian? When I used OpenLinux, they were separate files. If I remember correctly, bash will look for .bash_profile first, and will fall through to using .profile if the former isn't found. You should be able to find the specifics with man bash - look for the INVOCATION section. You are right. It comes as a surprise to me though. It will take me years to really know Linux. -- Andrew
Re: Debian Packages compiled with PGCC
I was trying to install from the rpms which I converted to debs using alien. I didn't try installing from the source...I didn't really want to because I don't really want it to take the place of my normal gcc...I'd like to be able to remove it from my system easily. How much of the pentium optimization is built into the egcc which is available in slink? eric. On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 09:03:43PM +, Mark Brown wrote: What are you trying to install from? It builds perfectly happily from source into whatever directory you want (although I've not tried on Linux recently), and the last anyone told me the binary releases wanted to be put into /usr. It's not much hassle to build from source.
Re: cd_doEject[CDROMEJECT]: Device or resource busy
You're not by any chance running a CD player? Some of them have a habit of hogging the eject function. Just a thought... Cheers Dave On Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 00:32 +0100, Björn Elwhagen wrote: Hi! I have a strange problem. Even tho my cdrom is unmounted i can't get it to eject the CD. I'm currently using the IDE-SCSI emulation but the same problem occured when i used the ATAPI-driver. The only message i get is: cd_doEject[CDROMEJECT]: Device or resource busy Has anyone seen or heard of this problem before? Can anyone perhaps give me a hint to where i can look up locked/used devices and such? I've checked around a bit in /proc but haven't been able to spot anything that i can relate to this. Anything that might be useful would be greatly appreciated. Regards // Marwin -- | Björn Elwhagen aka Marwin Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Student at Wexio University for PGP public key. (broken) | | SwedenICQ: 356095 | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Dave Swegen | Debian 2.0 on Linux i386 2.2.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP key available on request [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation --
enlightenment-cvs bug: Enlightenment is removed from the menu system
Just to reassure everyone, I am quite happy to support the enlightenment-cvs package. I've just installed it, and it removed the Enlightenment option from the Menu/WindowManagers that enlightenment_0.14 put there. Pedro Guerreiro -- Diplomacy: the art of letting someone have your own way.
RE: VNC
I just got the VNC to work by setting the font paths in the vnc.conf file to use ';' instead of ',' . Once that change was done it thing accually worked, now I just need to figure out how to use it... --Dano -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 6:12 PM To: Gregory T. Norris Subject: Re: VNC On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 04:44:58PM -0600, Gregory T. Norris wrote: On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 12:24:00PM -0300, Phillip Neumann wrote: Im trying to run vnc, but i have some troubles. I want run vncserver as me (filsin). When i do it i get, inside the log file, this: _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 [snipped] /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/,unix/:7101' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' I was fighting a similar (sounding, at least) problem with vnc some time ago. Looks like you're using xfstt? Two things to try... firstly, do ps auwx | grep [x]fstt to make sure that xfstt is really running, followed by /etc/init.d/xfstt start (as root) if it isn't. If that's not it, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config and replace FontPath unix/:7101 with FontPath tcp/localhost:7101 I never found out why, but vnc absolutely would not get along with xfstt using unix-domain sockets on my system. Hi, Well actually that worked (editing the XF86Config file). But now i have the same error when tyring to run X: _FontTransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for Join/ failed to set default font path '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:u nscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts /Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/u sr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/ lib/X11/fonts/freefont/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/,tcp/Join/:7101 ' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' . I guess i have to disable true type fonts... :-( -- Phillip Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: PLEASE HELP: Can't access my system....
If you proceed into the installation process, it will mount the root under /target. If you switch immediately to a VC and mount it manually, it will mount it where you specify with the mount command. Bob On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, rich wrote: This is a good application for the rescue disk (of the installation floppy set). You can alt-F2 to get a console screen, mount the root partition to /mnt and edit /mnt/etc/fstab with ae. Bob Thanks - that did it... although it took me a while to figure out that when the program mounts the FS it mounts it not under /mnt but under /target On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Rich Hartman wrote: Hello, I was messing around w/ FSTAB, and apparently erased the ro from the defaults,errors=remount-ro field of my root filesystem entry Anyway, now I can't login even as root, and get all kinds of boot-up errors I've tried linux single at LILO, and I can login, but I can't edit my FSTAB file - it gives me a read-only error... So how do I fix my FSTAB if linux single won't let me do it? Thanks to everyone in advance! Rich -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Debian Packages compiled with PGCC
On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 05:16:51PM -0600, Eric wrote: That's true, it would most definitely be a symlink farm, but what's so bad about that? Priorities in apt would definitely be cool. Is that something that is definitely going to be incorporated? eric. On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 03:05:56PM -0600, Stephen Pitts wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the problem with doing it in the current situation is that you create another symlink farm. 99% of the packages will _not_ be compiled with PGCC, so you have maybe 50 deb packages and 2350 links. In the future, if I can give APT priorities in the source list, like Get packages from binary-i386/stable/man. If the same package exists in binary-i686/stable/man, then it gets precedence. That would be just as cool as apt-get compile-install pkg as a previous poster said. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Not sure, was just an idea I had off the top of my head. I'll forward the message to someone on the APT team. The problem with a sym-link farm is that it adds complexity to the archive. Right now, with 'priorities', the tree could be a lot simpler. I've had problems with APT-GET where the mirror I was using had bad symlinks that pointed to nowhere. I've seen several other people with similar problems (error message: not a plain file). -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: Debian Packages compiled with PGCC
On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 06:36:27PM -0600, Eric wrote: I was trying to install from the rpms which I converted to debs using alien. I didn't try installing from the source...I didn't really want to because I don't really want it to take the place of my normal gcc...I'd like to be able to remove it from my system easily. How much of the pentium optimization is built into the egcc which is available in slink? eric. On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 09:03:43PM +, Mark Brown wrote: What are you trying to install from? It builds perfectly happily from source into whatever directory you want (although I've not tried on Linux recently), and the last anyone told me the binary releases wanted to be put into /usr. It's not much hassle to build from source. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Correct me if I'm wrong, but slink still uses gcc 2.7.2.1 for C compilation (because pgcc/egcs hate the Linux 2.0 kernel). egcs is only used for C++ compilation. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
SOLVED -- Re: problem sending mail...
Folks, Thanks to Daniel J. Brosemer [EMAIL PROTECTED], I was able to solve my problem by running smailconf. Thanks to all who offered their help! :-) On Mon, 01 Mar 1999, William Park wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 07:03:17PM -0800, Jesse Evans wrote: Folks, Something chokes when I try to send mail, but only certain addresses. It looks like the recipient's mail server insists on legal sender's address on email envelope. For example, your envelope From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 1 23:47:45 1999 is rejected because '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is not legal internet address. I had similar problem, some time ago. My solution was to re-generate /etc/sendmail.cf from /usr/src/sendmail/cf/cf/linux.smtp.mc: include(`../m4/cf.m4') VERSIONID(`linux for smtp-only setup')dnl OSTYPE(linux) FEATURE(nouucp)dnl MASQUERADE_AS(better.net)dnl -- my ISP FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl-- my addition FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl It turned out the following section controls how sendmail writes an envelope: ### ### Ruleset 94 -- convert envelope names to masqueraded form ### ### S94 R$+ $@ $93 $1 #R$* @ *LOCAL* $* $: $1 @ $j . $2 --William. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- 'til next we type... HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse
Minimal requirements for xwindows and slave hard disk installation
Hi, I just got myself an old 270 MB hard disk...to supplement the 120Mb I have on my current disk. I've got debian Linux installed on it..Anyone knows how I should go about it. Also, I have about 72MB of free space left on the current disk. Add to that the 270MB(if I pass the smoke test!)..can someone tell me the minimal requirements for an xwindowing system ..I want to install netscape after that.. Thanks.. Michelle M. Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: +1-317-278-2948 Fax : +1-317-274-9742
Re: Minimal requirements for xwindows and slave hard disk installation
Hi, Hi. I just got myself an old 270 MB hard disk...to supplement the 120Mb I have on my current disk. I've got debian Linux installed on it..Anyone knows how I should go about it. Ok, one thing to do if you are running out of space is partition the new disk and make it your /usr For that you will have to copy the files from existing /usr partition onto a new partition you create, and change the /etc/fstab so that at boot you mount a new disk instead of old one. The old partition can be utilized for something else later. Also, I have about 72MB of free space left on the current disk. Add to that the 270MB(if I pass the smoke test!)..can someone tell me the minimal requirements for an xwindowing system ..I want to install netscape after that.. Hmm, you got about 440M total space. Scorpio:/home/ryn# df Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/hdb2 198123 9572492168 51% / /dev/hda11029872 96062469248 93% /windows /dev/hdc1 574626 216321 328621 40% /usr I have about 300M used up, add 90M swap to that, and I am running X, Netscape, gcc, got kernel source installed, etc. So you got enough space with that new disk. Andrew Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux.
XFree with S3 Trio3D AGP?
I have been trying to get XFree86 to work with a Trio3d AGP card, and it doesn't seem to be supported. Somebody sent me a link to an update for red hat to support it, but I would prefer to stick with Debian. I am using Debian 2.0 I have upgraded to the XFree86 from slink, and have download the S3 server 3.3.3.1 from xfree86.org, but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Cheers. Corey
Re: vim has no color after moving uo to slink
On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 09:39:30PM -0800, Mark Wagnon wrote: I found vim-rt on the debian site. It mentioned syntax highlighting in the description. I downloaded it and installed it. The error is gone (cuz I let it overwrite my /etc/vimrc), but I still get no syntax highlighting :( Could I replace my lost syntax.vim file with one from someone else's system? Or does anyone have another solution to my dilemma? The syntax highlighting was moved to vim-rt so you need that package. You did not need to overwrite your vimrc because it would have worked again after the update. cu Torsten pgp4BLlqgncxT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Permissions of the sysadmin
On Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 06:02:46PM -0600, Jonathan Guthrie wrote: underneath or not, they can't get to underneath. The superuser can get in, but root can always get in. Preventing that requires rethinking the concept of root. Hopefully root will stay as it is. I hate this message Access denied I get everytime I want to do something on the NT server in university (yes, I am the admin...) cu Torsten pgpgxWPs3Mqq4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: libm.so.#: where?
On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 03:12:08AM -0500, Shaleh wrote: remember to install the -dev packages too. Why? All you need to run programs that require libm.so is in libc6 (which is in base). You might need libc5 for old programs and you will need libc[56]-dev for development. cu Torsten pgpuOKb65pCNc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: StarOffice 5
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Robert V. MacQuarrie wrote: I've installed each version of SO and have never had any problems using the provided 'setup' utility. I really only have 1 minor complaint with SO5 and thats the fact that it takes up so much disk spack in the users account. I remember one of the SO developers had hacked a multiuser patch for the in SO4 called AutoMultiUserSetupForSO40Linux.tar.gz I think. This patched the /net option if i remember correctly and worked beautifully. Here are the diffs in size of my SO5 and SO4 installs: [timberwolf:adren:~$] du -hs /usr/local/Office40/ 113MOffice40 [timberwolf:adren:~$] du -hs ~/StarOffice (this is 4.0) 12M StarOffice [timberwolf:adren:~$] du -hs ~/Office50 140MOffice50 [timberwolf:adren:~$] This is a HUGE difference. The multiuser patch was great! 12M for 4.0 to 140M with 5.0. Does anyone know if there was a multiuser patch for SO5 aswell? I like having a 12M user dir as opposed to a 140M dir. You don't need patch, /net option is already there, just use it. In the home directory it uses only 4 MB. Sergey.
Re: Hamm--Slink, now fetchmail/exim behaves strangely
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Graham Ashton wrote: On Tuesday 02 March, Mark Phillips wrote: I've just upgraded from Hamm to Slink. Fetchmail seems to work the same as before, except that now, only the first 10 messages get to my mail box straight away. I've got the same problem. Strange, isn't it. This makes me think twice about upgrading my whole system again even if Debian is supposed to make that easy. On my previous upgrade 1.3 to Hamm, it took me nearly 3 days and many hours to get all my user programs running again and fixing all the broken configurations. Getting my mail system to work again was a real pain in the neck. I would not like to go through that again. Johann. -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help. My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth. Psalms 121:1,2
Re: ANNOUNCE: debian party in San Jose, Marth 3rd
The location I suggest for the party tomorrow night is at Chili's. The atmosphere is good, not too loud, not too soft, and the food is fairly decent. From the show, it's also fairly easy to get to. Directions to the one I'm the most familiar with are as follows: From the Expo Center, take 280 north(toward San Francisco) On 280, take the 880(north) exit. As you come off the ramp, you will have the option to continue to the right to go onto 880, or to go straight. Go straight, then take the next right, which will bring you to Steven's Creek. At the end of the ramp is a traffic light. Make a right at the light(onto Steven's Creek). Take a left onto Winchester Blvd(the third light I think). Chili's will be on the left hand side, approximately 1/8th-1/4 mile down Winchester. I will be at the show at 9am tomorrow morning, and will be at or around the booth most of the day. If anyone has any questions, feel free to stop by and ask. See ya there. Dave Bristel [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Joey Hess wrote: Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:54:59 -0800 From: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org To: Bay Area Debian [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ANNOUNCE: debian party in San Jose, Marth 3rd All debian people in town for LinuxWorld Expo are invited to a party, following the expo on Wednesday, March 3rd. We will be going out to a restraunt or some other venue in San Jose (to be determined, suggestions welcome), and celebrating the release of debian 2.1 (or if it isn't released on time, just celebrating). A featured guest is Wichert Akkerman, leader of the debian project. To attend, stop by the Debian booth (#1445) on Wednesday just before the expo closes, at 6pm. We will gather there and drive to the party location. Or drop by our website at http://kitenet.net/~bad/linuxworld.html in the next few days for further details. Attention debian developers and developers to be: bring your pgp keys! -- see shy jo
User Directories
What do I have to do to move my user directories to a different partition/drive? I have looked around but I can not find what file (?) that user info like home directory is stored. Also I was wonder what the most dependable way to mount a drive on boot was? Can you do this with in a standard '/etc/rcX.d' file or with the kernel or something? When my machine boots one of the messages that comes up is 'not mounting anthing . . . ' (or something like that). I know I could do it by putting a mount /dev/hdXX in my /etc/profile file but I get a feeling there is a more system smart method of doing this. Thanks MT.
debian dinner wednesday night
[ Sorry about the massive crosspost, last one I swear. Please honor the Reply-To. ] For those attending LinuxWorld expo in San Jose: Wednesday night starting at 7pm, we will be having a debian dinner at Chili's in San Jose. This event is open to both users and developers alike. Developers: bring your pgp keys, a keysigning will be held. Wichert Akkerman, the leader of debian, will be giving a short talk about all the people and companies he's been talking to at the expo who want to get involved with the debian project, or use debian, or help debian out in various ways. Wichert can't yet tell us *everything* he's talking about with various people, but what he can is sure to be fascinating! Directions to Chili's follow (from the San Jose convention center): From the Expo Center, take 280 north (toward San Francisco) On 280, take the 880(north) exit. As you come off the ramp, you will have the option to continue to the right to go onto 880, or to go straight. Go straight, then take the next right, which will bring you to Steven's Creek. At the end of the ramp is a traffic light. Make a right at the light(onto Steven's Creek). Take a left onto Winchester Blvd(the third light I think). Chili's will be on the left hand side, approximately 1/8th-1/4 mile down Winchester. The address is 2980 Stevens creek Phone number for chili's: 241-8833 For more infomation, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bristel). -- see shy jo
Re: [svlug] debian dinner wednesday night
From: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Sorry about the massive crosspost, last one I swear. Please honor the Reply-To. ] For those attending LinuxWorld expo in San Jose: Wednesday night starting at 7pm, we will be having a debian dinner at Chili's in San Jose. [...] Ahem. That's exactly the same time the SVLUG meeting will be held at the Convention Center... -- Ian Kluft KO6YQ PP-ASEL Cisco Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) San Jose, CA
Re: StarOffice 5
Robert V. MacQuarrie wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Damir J. Naden wrote: Hi Micha Feigin; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Frankie wrote: Is there a recommended way of installing SO5 under debian? there doesn't seem to be an install Package for it (like there is for SO3)? If its like staroffice 4, Then use the setup supplied with staroffice, and then install it with the net option as root (although it still takes quite some space for each user); I've installed it simply following the setup provided by StarOffice (part of the download), following the instructions in their README. It worked flawlessly. I've installed each version of SO and have never had any problems using the provided 'setup' utility. I really only have 1 minor complaint with SO5 and thats the fact that it takes up so much disk spack in the users account. I remember one of the SO developers had hacked a multiuser patch for the in SO4 called AutoMultiUserSetupForSO40Linux.tar.gz I think. This patched the /net option if i remember correctly and worked beautifully. Here are the diffs in size of my SO5 and SO4 installs: [timberwolf:adren:~$] du -hs /usr/local/Office40/ 113MOffice40 [timberwolf:adren:~$] du -hs ~/StarOffice (this is 4.0) 12M StarOffice [timberwolf:adren:~$] du -hs ~/Office50 140MOffice50 [timberwolf:adren:~$] This is a HUGE difference. The multiuser patch was great! 12M for 4.0 to 140M with 5.0. Does anyone know if there was a multiuser patch for SO5 aswell? I like having a 12M user dir as opposed to a 140M dir. --Rob -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Yeah i thought so too, so i read the docs ( back with SO 4 and i came across the /net option) And now with SO5 as root run setup /net and select a dir ( ie /usr/local/SO ) then when install is finished LOGON AS THE USER and goto to /usr/local/SO/bin dir and run setup in that dir, this will setup SO for in the users home dir using only 3.8MB (on my system anyway.) Cheers
Re: User Directories
What do I have to do to move my user directories to a different partition/drive? Try cp -a .. Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
RE: User Directories
On 03-Mar-99 Mark Yobb wrote: What do I have to do to move my user directories to a different partition/drive? I have looked around but I can not find what file (?) that user info like home directory is stored. cp -a /home /wherever/ mv /home /home.bak ln -s /wherever/home /home ... TEST ... rm -r /home.bak Also I was wonder what the most dependable way to mount a drive on boot was? Can you do this with in a standard '/etc/rcX.d' file or with the kernel or something? When my machine boots one of the messages that comes up is 'not mounting anthing . . . ' (or something like that). I know I could do it by putting a mount /dev/hdXX in my /etc/profile file but I get a feeling there is a more system smart method of doing this. Add the entry to /etc/fstab. Do a man fstab and read what is there, should get you going.
The web based package tree and dpkg, and GIT
Note: If you have no interest in the package tree but use GIT, or are interested in a file system centered interface to dpkg, you may want to skip to the end of this message. What I am about to describe is not feasible for initial installations or system upgrades... but if you are checking out individual packages or software functions, and would like to climb up the learning curve a bit - read on. The advantage to programs like dselect is that they take most of the drudge work out of installing software onto your system; but in doing so you sometimes don't get to see what is going on, or where it is going on. The loss of that information hampers your ability to understand how the system works, and as such your ability to recognize exactly what the problem is when a problem does arise. This results in a tendency to blame everything on dselect, and potential confusion when your question about dselect gets answered with, let's say, something about symlinks in the ftp mirror site. You could learn more and gain control over problems by working `closer to the machine', but if you think dselect has a lot of packages to list through to find what you are looking for, then you will not like an ftp directory any better. One way to avoid being overwhelmed by the cornucopia of packages is to use the web based package tree[1] and dpkg, instead of dselect. Of course there is nothing stopping you from using the web based tree in conjunction with dselect (just point dselect to the directory containing the downloaded packages and tell it to install), but it adds an unnecessary layer of complexity to the whole operation. The disadvantages are that it is not as simple as having dselect fetch and install packages for you, it takes more time online, you don't see quite as much detail about each package, and you are limited to the stable, frozen, and unstable distributions on primary ftp sites. [2] The advantages include: a simple and intuitive view of the package tree; a better chance of knowing when and where a problem originates; and the ability to jump to the same position in a different distribution, returning to exactly where you before you went off on a tangent (good for examining the evolution of a package if you are not sure which version you want)[3]. This is how it works: point your browser at the package tree, download what you want, then feed the packages into dpkg. I'll admit that this can be a pretty messy procedure, if you approach it in a haphazard manner. Try doing it this way... Empty out your download directory and get online. When you get to the first page of a package you want, give it `the once over' just to see what other packages are in the dependency list, then go back to the top of the page and work your way towards the Download Page link at the bottom. Follow all links to packages that you need or want[4], *in the order you come across them*. When you hit a link to a download page, download the file, then backup one level and continue. When you backup into the index you will have downloaded all the files for the package you are after, in the order that they should be installed. A cd /the/download/directory; dpkg -i `ls -fA *.deb` command will install everything; and if you followed the procedure described, all dependencies will be met on the first pass because `ls -fA` ensures that dpkg processes the files in the order you downloaded them, skipping over . and ... If you like to snoop around the system after a new installation, or unpack a package, check it out, then configure it, you may want to use a file browser like GIT and setup some key bindings to cut down on the typing. For example, putting... ^Ci = DPKG-install; dpkg -i `ls -fA *.deb` into a .gitrc.TERM file will result in dpkg trying to install every .deb in the current directory whenever the CTRL-c, i sequence is used (it will also overwrite the RPM install command which is bound to that mapping by default ;). Hmmm, I have a set of GIT key-bindings for DPKG. Almost everything that dpkg can do is supported, along with backgrounding stuff and some interactive selection (via iSelect). I find it very useful to be able to tour around the file system with the utility of dpkg just a few keystrokes away. If anyone is interested let me know and I'll email them to you. If enough people are interested I'll extend the set, do some docs, and put them on the web. later, Bruce [1] http://www.ca.debian.org/Packages.html where ca gets replaced with the country code for the server nearest to you (ca, de, us). [2] The last three can be fixed by adding a web method to dselect's update function, and a little more information to the html based package tree. [3] This is a browser function; with Lynx 2.8.1 you use E to edit the current selected URL and change the distribution element of the path (stable, frozen or unstable - it sounds worse than it is), you get
was Re: Debian Packages compiled with PGCC
I agree with Ben here - the binary distribution should remain _at least_ 486 compatible, if not 386 compatible. It should be compatible with anything Linux can run on... say a i386, 4M RAM, 20M(?) flash drive and late '80s video. - Bruce
Re: enlightenment-cvs bug: Enlightenment is removed from the menu system
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Pedro Guerreiro wrote: Just to reassure everyone, I am quite happy to support the enlightenment-cvs package. I've just installed it, and it removed the Enlightenment option from the Menu/WindowManagers that enlightenment_0.14 put there. Yeah. I haven't integrated it properly with the menu package yet. Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/
Re: Debian Packages compiled with PGCC
Why not add a kind of VIEWPATH environment variable to the install tool. (like in some compilers) The package that is found first in the list of directories will be installed Joop
Re: Minimal requirements for xwindows and slave hard disk installation
On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 11:39:15PM -0500, Michelle Coelho wrote: I just got myself an old 270 MB hard disk...to supplement the 120Mb I have on my current disk. I've got debian Linux installed on it..Anyone knows how I should go about it. Also, I have about 72MB of free space left on the current disk. Add to that the 270MB(if I pass the smoke test!)..can someone tell me the minimal requirements for an xwindowing system ..I want to install netscape after that.. You might appreciate the X reorganization that took place for slink, then -- one of its advantages is the ability to strip X down a lot more than you used to. You'll need: xfree86-common xserver-common xserver-vga16 (only if you want to use the XF86Setup tool) xf86setup (only if you want to use it) xserver-something (probably xserver-svga, but this depends on the video card) xlib6g xbase-clients xfonts-base xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scaled (maybe) xterm (or some other X terminal emulator, like rxvt -- which is smaller) twm (or some other window manager, like fvwm) I think that should do it. If I forgot something, apt should haul it in for you. If you decide to use XF86Setup, you can remove it and xserver-vga16 once you have configured the X server. This may look like a long list of packages, but the old X arrangement required xbase, and xbase had a *lot* of stuff in it. I do suggest, however, moving your entire /usr over to the new drive. Debian does not support, for instance, /usr/bin on one disk partition and /usr/X11R6 on another. (It's an issue of symbolic links mandated in the Policy Manual.) -- G. Branden Robinson | Why do we have to hide from the police, Debian GNU/Linux | Daddy? [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Because we use vi, son. They use cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | emacs. pgpz576It1Vlw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LinuxWorld
I was able to shoot down to SJ to make the last 2 hours of the exhibits. The RedHat, LinuxCare, and Compaq booths were all very flashy and cool. I was gawking at this really cool Compaq display, when I realized the crowd was not for the servers, but for Linus. Very Cool. I didn't get an autograph because I'm not comfortable idolizing people. But it was great to see him there. Rob Malda struck me as being a little full of himself, but I guess he has a right to be since slashdot is what it is. I asked him how much he's selling the T-Shirts for, and he said he doesn't handle marketing. OK-then Whatever, I saw the much cooler Debian guys there, Wichert is a real stand up cat... I was excited about Wordmarc, a unix based console word processor wp clone thing. The guy said their going to overhaul the license, I think that their gonna GPL it (I hope). Abi-Word by Abi-Source is looking good too; the guy said a debian cat is going to package it... cool... I had to run back to Sacramento and write a paper for tomarrow, but it was a really really cool deal... Later... NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ompages.com On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote: Had a really cool funny at Linux World ... met Linus at the end of the aisle signing stuff for people. My friend digs around in his pocket for something and whips out a CD for Linus to autograph. He hands it over and laughter rips through the crowd. My friend's face grows red as he realised that he just gave Linus Torvalds a SCO UnixWare CDROM to sign. Linus takes it all in stride and signs it I hope you get better. I had to drag my friend back down the aisle to the Debian booth to touch the MAC for redemption (don't ask ... you just had to be there). It was really great seeing a lot of the Debian folks there along with such folks as the Slashdot crew in the booth next door. Even finally getting to talk with people from other distros that I had email contact with (such as some of the people from Red Hat) was a real gas. I can't wait until the reprise in August. Linus gave a great speach and the party in Exhibit Hall 3 is probably still going on. The Linux community is really a great bunch of people. I heard vendors commenting that they were really amazed at the crowd. The quality of the questions they were being asked, the level of technical expertise and the fact that they were speaking with people that REALLY understood the technologies of this stuff was really a refreshing change to them. I am proud to associate myself with this community of computer users and with the Debian community in particular. Nice job to all. I think it is a really great show. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: User Directories
What do I have to do to move my user directories to a different partition/drive? I have looked around but I can not find what file (?) that user info like home directory is stored. The home directory of a user is written in /etc/passwd. In that file you can change the directory, then copy the stuff with cp -a, and remove the old one with rm -rf. You may want to check man cp man 5 passwd and you may want to make backups. In any case, I would not remove the old directory before verifying that the new setup worked. Also I was wonder what the most dependable way to mount a drive on boot was? Can you do this with in a standard '/etc/rcX.d' file or with the kernel or something? When my machine boots one of the messages that comes up is 'not mounting anthing . . . ' (or something like that). I know I could do it by putting a mount /dev/hdXX in my /etc/profile file but I get a feeling there is a more system smart method of doing this. There definitely is. Drives that are mounted are specified in /etc/fstab (File System TABle). This file too has a man page, so try man fstab If anything remains unclear, do post on this list again. If you want to know more about basic unix administration tasks, you may want to read (buy) a book like `Running Linux' by Matt Welsh (sp?). HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: web based mail
On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 09:17:10 -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: i was wondering if there's anyone here who gives web based mail services to their customers. if so, what package/application can you suggest w/c, based on ur experiences is proven to work in a nice and stable way. This is getting to be a FAQ. :-) Nice is easy, stable is the difficult part (meaning non-stable as in rapidly developing). First choice: Run over to http://www.tdyc.com/~rkrusty/Debian/ and grab Ivan Moore's IMP package. Ivan has a deb created of http://horde.org's IMP and is planning on getting it into the potato release. I have tried to do so, but this page does not seem to exist any more. Does anyone have a suggestion where to find this .deb? Regards -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: web based mail
The link does work if you take off the 's... http://web.horde.org/ Will - Original Message - From: Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 8:13 AM Subject: Re: web based mail On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 09:17:10 -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: i was wondering if there's anyone here who gives web based mail services to their customers. if so, what package/application can you suggest w/c, based on ur experiences is proven to work in a nice and stable way. This is getting to be a FAQ. :-) Nice is easy, stable is the difficult part (meaning non-stable as in rapidly developing). First choice: Run over to http://www.tdyc.com/~rkrusty/Debian/ and grab Ivan Moore's IMP package. Ivan has a deb created of http://horde.org's IMP and is planning on getting it into the potato release. I have tried to do so, but this page does not seem to exist any more. Does anyone have a suggestion where to find this .deb? Regards -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: modem
I need help to choise a modem that works on debian can somebody tellme about? thanks good day
Re: User Directories
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: What do I have to do to move my user directories to a different partition/drive? I have looked around but I can not find what file (?) that user info like home directory is stored. The home directory of a user is written in /etc/passwd. In that file you can change the directory, then copy the stuff with cp -a, and remove the old one with rm -rf. You may want to check man cp man 5 passwd you'd also need a -p to keep permissions. AFAIK, though, cp -p doesn't respect symlinks and just makes duplicates, in this case you'd want to use tar basically a 'tar -cpf - -C homedirlocation|tar -xvpf -' but as I haven't just tested that, you should man tar to make sure I'm right. and you may want to make backups. In any case, I would not remove the old directory before verifying that the new setup worked. Excellent piece of advice! Also I was wonder what the most dependable way to mount a drive on boot was? Can you do this with in a standard '/etc/rcX.d' file or with the kernel or something? When my machine boots one of the messages that comes up is 'not mounting anthing . . . ' (or something like that). I know I could do it by putting a mount /dev/hdXX in my /etc/profile file but I get a feeling there is a more system smart method of doing this. There definitely is. Drives that are mounted are specified in /etc/fstab (File System TABle). This file too has a man page, so try man fstab If anything remains unclear, do post on this list again. If you want to know more about basic unix administration tasks, you may want to read (buy) a book like `Running Linux' by Matt Welsh (sp?). Or Essential System Administration by O'Reilly and Associates (my personal favorite) HTH -Dano
RE: modem
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Pablo Cernadas wrote: I need help to choise a modem that works on debian can somebody tellme about? Avoid any modem that is a win modem These do not and can not be made to work under Linux. Primarily because the CPU does most of the work, and the specifications are kept a propriatary secret, so no drivers can be written. I use external modems with a serial port. Others will have internal modems that they like. I have heard, but cannot promise, that Multitech makes non-win modems. Wishing you luck, David David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Because reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.
Re: User Directories
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: What do I have to do to move my user directories to a different partition/drive? I have looked around but I can not find what file (?) that user info like home directory is stored. The home directory of a user is written in /etc/passwd. In that file you can change the directory, then copy the stuff with cp -a, and remove the old one with rm -rf. You may want to check man cp man 5 passwd you'd also need a -p to keep permissions. AFAIK, though, cp -p doesn't respect symlinks and just makes duplicates, in this case you'd want to use tar basically a 'tar -cpf - -C homedirlocation|tar -xvpf -' but as I haven't just tested that, you should man tar to make sure I'm right. I suggested using cp -a. In the man page it says: OPTIONS -a, --archive Preserve as much as possible of the structure and attributes of the original files in the copy. The same as -dpR. So this includes -p (keep permissions), -R (recurse), and -d (copy symbolic links, do not dereference). I like the tar approach a lot from a geek point of view :), but I do believe cp -a is simpler. I also seem to remember there was a problem with tar that cp -a didn't have (maybe this was with device files?), but we are entering the realm of religious warfare here... HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: User Directories
In a message dated 3/3/99 12:25:43 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do I have to do to move my user directories to a different partition/drive? I have looked around but I can not find what file (?) that user info like home directory is stored. All home directories are stored in the /home directory (with the exception of the root's home dir in /root). Those are the directories you'd need to copy. Also I was wonder what the most dependable way to mount a drive on boot was? Can you do this with in a standard '/etc/rcX.d' file or with the kernel or something? When my machine boots one of the messages that comes up is 'not mounting anthing . . . ' (or something like that). I know I could do it by putting a mount /dev/hdXX in my /etc/profile file but I get a feeling there is a more system smart method of doing this. Drives mounted at boot time are identified by /etc/fstab. -jay
Re: modem
Be careful. The Motorola SM56 is a winmodem but it does not say so anywhere on the box! At the web site, it is called a software modem or a HSP The AOpen FM-56 is also a winmodem but it does not advertize it in big letters on the box. I discovered this at the web site in a footnote. These are both internals. Get an external, real modem. Pablo Cernadas wrote: I need help to choise a modem that works on debian can somebody tellme about? thanks good day -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Hard Drive Question....
Greetings, I know I've seen this addressed before, but for the life of me I can't seems to find it, so I will ask the group. I have several machine, now running DOS 6.2. The system BIOS doesn't support large drives, 540MB is the max. I have several 630-1000MB drives and wish to use them on these machines then boot the machines up with LINUX. What do I set the BIOS to in order to correctly partition the drives with Linux? Thanks in advance. Anthony Landreneau Network Administrator Infinity Data Systems New Orleans Louisiana (504)455-8973
Re: Fw: Mitsumi FX001D CD-ROM drv. Need help...
Larry Shields WD9ESU wrote: If I boot right from the linux floppy disk, when it gets to the point of mounting my CD-ROM drive I get this: MCD=0X360,11: init Failed. No mcd device at 0x360 irq 11 But if I let the system boot up using MSDOS, it then loads everything encluding my cd-rom drive, then once I get the msdos prompt, I insert the Bootable linux disk into the floppy drive, and do a soft reboot CTRL-ALT-DEL and then it boots up using the Linux floppy... When it gets to the point of loading of the cd-rom drive it then loads in and shows this: MCD=0X360,11: Mitsumi Status type and version: 10 D 2 Double Speed CD ROM Does this mean that when I am asked when installing Debian Modules select Category for cdrom driversthat when it shows the different types like sony, etc, and mcd or MCDX, that it is looking for mcd=0x360,11 10 D 2??? The program for installing modules which is used during installation of Debian is /usr/sbin/modconf. You can start it as root whenever You want. If You select mcd or mcdx You are asked if you want to supply some options. There You can try to add 0x360,11. I would suggest to use mcdx. Using mcdx instead of mcd I don't have to add any options. Also I would like someone to show me the correct way of editing my FSTAB file using the /dev/mcd since I have tried three different ways and have had no luck in doing so... Try to put a line like /dev/mcdx /cdrom iso9660 ro,user in your /etc/fstab. user means that every user can (un)mount the CD. Hope this will be of same help. (I am using a machine with this Mitsumi-Drive very seldom. Therfore I'm not sure.) Markus.
x-window won't start
Hi all, I just installed Debian2.0 from official CD. The installation went ok except problems with serveral packages(defualt chosen). One problem is that when I install I saw no 'xinit' and I couldn't write anything to X config file. I start XF86Setup manually and get it worked ( I know all the devices about my PC). My video care is Dimond Steeth 3D 2000 and I used s3v driver. I configured it right then saved and exited. However, when I do 'startx', I can not got x window. Error message insludes no screens found... I have S3V xserver installed right. But I don't see it at /etc/X11/XF86config. Any ideas, thanks! Chen
Re: XFree with S3 Trio3D AGP?
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Corey Ralph wrote: |I have been trying to get XFree86 to work with a Trio3d AGP card, and it |doesn't seem to be supported. indeed, it isn't |Somebody sent me a link to an update for red hat to support it, but I would |prefer to stick with Debian. no, redhat doesn't support. |I am using Debian 2.0 I have upgraded to the XFree86 from slink, and have |download the S3 server 3.3.3.1 from xfree86.org, but it doesn't seem to |work. |Any ideas? Oh, yes, i have it too and it works good in 1024x768 and 32 bit color. But, you have to upgrade to kernel 2.2.x and use the framebuffer device. This gives you that nice little pinguin at boottime ;-) you can find all necessary info in the source docs: linux/Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt and linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt Than you can use X with XF86_FBDev X-server. I'v read in dejanews that some others have it running also. There's also a howto somewhere on the net, but i lost the bookmark :-( It's just a pity that those framebuffers don't work with frequency's above 60Hz. Success! -- Bernhard DobbelsStudent Electronic Engineer option Automation and Computersystems. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 25783372
Re: rescue disk doesn't rescue me
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Werner Reisberger wrote: I am using Debian 2.0r4 and trying to boot my brand new PC since 4 days with several rescue disks I prepared with dd on my good old Linux PC. I even tried to boot with a self prepared root.bin disk but a reader of this list told me that I don't need to do this with a fairly new dist (yes I have a 1.44 floppy drive). The following happens when I insert the rescue disk in my brand new PC pressing enter at the boot prompt: It recognizes the hardware (including the SCSI controller and the SCSI disk) but at the end it issues the following: Partition check: sda:Dev 08:00 Sun disklabel: bad magic unknown partition table # this line is probably caused because my HD is completely untouched This is probably a bad advice :-), but anyway: I would try to boot from a MS-DOS floppy and then try to fdisk the disk from DOS first (only to have a consistent partition table). RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem) # until now it's looks good but the boot process hangs at this stage This seems a bug in the Linux kernel. As a workaround you could replace the linux file in the boot floppy by a custom made one, by using the good old Linux PC.
Re: Fw: Mitsumi FX001D CD-ROM drv. Need help...
With regard to mounting cdrom filesystems, I believe there is something called amd that can automate this so that you do not have to type mount... each time. Maybe someone has the details?? Markus M. Schneider wrote: Larry Shields WD9ESU wrote: If I boot right from the linux floppy disk, when it gets to the point of mounting my CD-ROM drive I get this: MCD=0X360,11: init Failed. No mcd device at 0x360 irq 11 But if I let the system boot up using MSDOS, it then loads everything encluding my cd-rom drive, then once I get the msdos prompt, I insert the Bootable linux disk into the floppy drive, and do a soft reboot CTRL-ALT-DEL and then it boots up using the Linux floppy... When it gets to the point of loading of the cd-rom drive it then loads in and shows this: MCD=0X360,11: Mitsumi Status type and version: 10 D 2 Double Speed CD ROM Does this mean that when I am asked when installing Debian Modules select Category for cdrom driversthat when it shows the different types like sony, etc, and mcd or MCDX, that it is looking for mcd=0x360,11 10 D 2??? The program for installing modules which is used during installation of Debian is /usr/sbin/modconf. You can start it as root whenever You want. If You select mcd or mcdx You are asked if you want to supply some options. There You can try to add 0x360,11. I would suggest to use mcdx. Using mcdx instead of mcd I don't have to add any options. Also I would like someone to show me the correct way of editing my FSTAB file using the /dev/mcd since I have tried three different ways and have had no luck in doing so... Try to put a line like /dev/mcdx /cdrom iso9660 ro,user in your /etc/fstab. user means that every user can (un)mount the CD. Hope this will be of same help. (I am using a machine with this Mitsumi-Drive very seldom. Therfore I'm not sure.) Markus. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Trouble updating (trashed my X setup)
I was doing a apt-get dist-upgrade to update to the latest versions, when installing the xserver-common package didn't work. This has now trashed my X installation completely, so it doesn't work at all. This is what happens when I try to install it: # dpkg --install /tmp/xserver-common_3.3.2.3a-11.deb (Reading database ... 54635 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace xserver-common 3.3.2.3a-8 (using .../xserver-common_3.3.2.3a-11.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xserver-common ... Segmentation Fault I have tried a lot of things to get it to work, but not yet succeeded :-/ I'm using the frozen dist for the packages. -- \\// Peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Bored of spam? Try Fidonet. http://www.fidonet.org/ http://www.fidonet.pp.se/
Re: x-window won't start
First, try to get it to work with SVGA server. It might work better. (S3v doesnt work for me, I have S3 ViRGE/DX card). As to your problem: it just doesnt find any valid modes to run in. I've got the little walk-through on my homepage, (URL underneath), but basic idea is to change the order of modes to go from the least resolution to the most resolution when you get to modes screen in xf86config. This will ensure that if you can get X running, it will run on the lowest resolution possible. Then just experiment with it by changing either XF86Setup file, section where your valid screen modes reside, or rerunning xf86config. Andrew --- Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux.
the debian install process...
I just read the Bob Young essay linked on slashdot. It made me think. How come no debian folks have attempted to take RH's GPLed install app and make it work in debian. Or does debian have other plans to develop an equally good install app? If debian had an install app that autodetected hardware in the manner that RH's does, our distro would not have a perceivable flaw when held against RH. Then again, RH's install could be our install since they already autodetect tons of hardware... Just some thoughts... NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ompages.com
module errors
I have Debian 2.0 (Hamm) installed (2.0.35 kernel) and I have one small problem that might not really be a problem. If I reboot the machine, I get several errors about not finding modules, yet everything (including IP Masquerade) is working. Why do I see these errors? I would copy the errors if I could catch them, but they go by too fast and I don't see them with dmesg. thanks -- Andrew -- PGP Key ID 0x5EE61C37 PGP5.0 --
RE: module errors
On 03-Mar-99 Pollywog wrote: I have Debian 2.0 (Hamm) installed (2.0.35 kernel) and I have one small problem that might not really be a problem. If I reboot the machine, I get several errors about not finding modules, yet everything (including IP Masquerade) is working. Why do I see these errors? I would copy the errors if I could catch them, but they go by too fast and I don't see them with dmesg. Something about char-major or net-pf?
Help, I can only download ~ 120M chunks over PPP on kernel 2.2.2
I am running slink with the 2.2.2 kernel and I can't seem to download more than about 120M of data at once. Downloads just stop and do not start up again. If I abort and resume then things pick up where I left off but only for another chunk and it stops again. An example is when I am trying to update my Package files with apt. Below cut and paste of what is happening. This is not an apt issue because I get the same result with wget, Netscape, etc. This is just a good example. Has anyone else seen this? What is the cause/fix? Thanks. Get http://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/contrib Packages Get http://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/main Packages 16% [Packages 97500/490k 19%] update available list script was interrupted. === it stopped so I ^C'ed Press RETURN to continue. (note: I change my sources.list to use ftp instead of http to see if it made a difference) [EMAIL PROTECTED]dselect Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/contrib Packages Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/main Packages 20% [Packages `Resuming (97500)' 128000/490k 26%] update available list script was interrupted. Press RETURN to continue. Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/contrib Packages Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/main Packages 41% [Packages `Resuming (128000)' 291000/490k 59%] update available list script was interrupted. Press RETURN to continue. Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/contrib Packages Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/main Packages 52% [Packages `Resuming (291000)' 369000/490k 75%] update available list script was interrupted. Press RETURN to continue. Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/contrib Packages Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/main Packages 62% [Packages `Resuming (369000)' 448000/490k 91%] update available list script was interrupted. Press RETURN to continue. Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/contrib Packages Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/main Packages Get ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov frozen/non-free Packages Fetched 584k in 14s (40.5k/s) Updating package file cache...done Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...ok Merging Available information Replacing available packages info, using /var/cache/apt/available. Information about 2651 package(s) was updated. -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Pine: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
This is a non-Linux question, but I was hoping someone could help me with a problem I'm having in pine. We recently put the new version of pine on our Digital Unix machine which supplies email accounts for about 1000 users. Many users use POP clients to access their mail, while our students use pine. Since the upgrade to the newest pine, users who normally use POP clients get the message (below) when they check their mail through pine. The message only shows up when they go back to their POP client again (after using pine) to check mail. Is there a setting in pine to not send out these FOLDER INTERNAL DATA messages? Our POP users get really confused about such cryptic messages, and often swarm the help-line with fears of viruses and other nonsense! Can anyone help? Thanks, Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-POP3-Rcpt: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:48:40 -0600 (CST) From: Mail System Internal Data [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 0920418395 02 This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values.
Re: Pine: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Brian Morgan wrote: This is a non-Linux question, but I was hoping someone could help me with a problem I'm having in pine. We recently put the new version of pine on our Digital Unix machine which supplies email accounts for about 1000 users. Many users use POP clients to access their mail, while our students use pine. Since the upgrade to the newest pine, users who normally use POP clients get the message (below) when they check their mail through pine. The message only shows up when they go back to their POP client again (after using pine) to check mail. Is there a setting in pine to not send out these FOLDER INTERNAL DATA messages? Our POP users get really confused about such cryptic messages, and often swarm the help-line with fears of viruses and other nonsense! Can anyone help? The answer to your question can be found in the release notes for pine 4 or at the Pine website: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ Scroll down to 'Noteworthy Items' and click on 'What are the messages with the subject DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA about?' Fyi, Dennis -- Dennis Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Adminstrator College of Engineering, MSU 353-4844 (phone) 222-5875 (pager) X-POP3-Rcpt: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:48:40 -0600 (CST) From: Mail System Internal Data [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 0920418395 02 This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values.
Re: Pine: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Brian == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian cryptic messages, and often swarm the help-line with fears of Brian viruses and other nonsense! Can anyone help? The only fix I know of is to use the pop3 daemon that comes with imapd -- unlike other poppers Debian has, it quietly suppresses that message. - PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C __ _Debian GNU Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] mm mm / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ www.netgod.net irc.debian.org mm mm / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / m m m / /__| | | | | |_| |World Domination, of course. mm mm \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ And scantily clad females. GO BLUE
Re: Pine: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
There's a FAQ on pine's website that answers your question. http://www.washington.edu/pine/overview/non-UW.html Regards Sarel Botha On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Brian Morgan wrote: This is a non-Linux question, but I was hoping someone could help me with a problem I'm having in pine. We recently put the new version of pine on our Digital Unix machine which supplies email accounts for about 1000 users. Many users use POP clients to access their mail, while our students use pine. Since the upgrade to the newest pine, users who normally use POP clients get the message (below) when they check their mail through pine. The message only shows up when they go back to their POP client again (after using pine) to check mail. Is there a setting in pine to not send out these FOLDER INTERNAL DATA messages? Our POP users get really confused about such cryptic messages, and often swarm the help-line with fears of viruses and other nonsense! Can anyone help? Thanks, Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-POP3-Rcpt: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:48:40 -0600 (CST) From: Mail System Internal Data [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 0920418395 02 This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: module errors
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:38:53 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: module errors Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org On 03-Mar-99 Pollywog wrote: I have Debian 2.0 (Hamm) installed (2.0.35 kernel) and I have one small problem that might not really be a problem. If I reboot the machine, I get several errors about not finding modules, yet everything (including IP Masquerade) is working. Why do I see these errors? I would copy the errors if I could catch them, but they go by too fast and I don't see them with dmesg. I think you can find these messages in /usr/adm/messages or /var/log/messages. Something about char-major or net-pf? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
1 more Digital Unix question
Thanks to all who helped me with the pine FOLDER INTERNAL DATA issue. Got that taken care of. 1 more question that doesn't necessarily directly relate to Debian: POP users on our Digital Unix system (on an Alpha box) often have trouble receiving attachments. If an attachment appears in certain users' email boxes, they simply aren't able to retrieve any mail whatsoever. Their systems will just hang and not get past the message with the attachment. However, using a telnet mail program (like pine) is able to access the messages just fine, delete the attachment, and then allow the user to once again retrieve mail with their POP client. Any suggestions that might help allow users to retrieve these attachments? thanks in advance, Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smail and time
Hi! Does anyone know how to make smail put your local time in the emails and not the GMT time plus your time. For example, to put 22:00 CET and not 23:00 GMT-1. Thanks in advance for your help! -- p.
RE: module errors
On 03-Mar-99 Shaleh wrote: On 03-Mar-99 Pollywog wrote: I have Debian 2.0 (Hamm) installed (2.0.35 kernel) and I have one small problem that might not really be a problem. If I reboot the machine, I get several errors about not finding modules, yet everything (including IP Masquerade) is working. Why do I see these errors? I would copy the errors if I could catch them, but they go by too fast and I don't see them with dmesg. Something about char-major or net-pf? I don't believe I saw anything like that. The errors are about modules such as IP forwarding, the modules I installed when I recompiled the kernel. I believe another error is about SLIP or PPP but both seem to work. -- Andrew
NFS problems making system unusable
I have sunsite mounted via nfs on sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk I've lost the connection to sunsite (network problems elsewhere in the university), but whenever mcv21 tries to do anything that involves running a shell, I just get the error nfs: task 358 the number varies can't get a request slot and the thing just hangs: root can call up shells fine tho. The load is steadily rising as well. It's now about 8 :(. Any ideas? will unmounting /sunsite do anything, or will I just get a /sunsite: device busy message? Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte
Re: PINE permission...
Hey! UW has given me permission to distribute PINE. COOL. You sure are a dedicated dude. I am getting sick of exmh, so I think I switch back to pine.
Re: Xfig question
I am forced to use a lo-res X server (basically, a VGA server with 16 colours). Recently, I have had need to use xfig.The problem is that xfig enjoys using hi reesolution servers, and I am left with only a handful of icons on the left hand side toolbar, and none underneath. I have been trying to fiddle around with .Xdefaults, and the --geometry tag, but to no avail. Any ideas? I think the minimum screen size for the default xfig is 800x600. If you look at the xfig man pages you will find some options like -but_per_row , -pwidth and -pheight which are used for small screens. You should never use -geometry as it screws up some of the dialog windows.
Re: Big HD problems - How stuffed am I?
I've also been having problems with a Quantum... this one is detected as Quantum BIGFOOT_CY4320A. It was first installed as a Win95 drive. Wasn't long before Windows started detecting errors at the beginning of the drive, and it finally became unusable. I'm using it for linux now. When I partitioned it, I created a junk partition of 100M at the beginning (where the errors were occuring), then created a 500M root partition after that. Then I deleted the first partition and created the remaining ones after the root. This left 100M unused. I still get error messages, occasionally, but it doesn't seem to be getting any worse. I have had a quantum go down recently. After my experiences I recommend ditching the drive as soon as these problems appear. Things will only get worse. The local supplier mentioned that this appears to be a batch quality issue. Some batch shipments from quantum have a 100% failure rate over 12 months, whereas others are fine. Providing the drive is not too old you can put in a warranty claim with quantum. Yours in common grief
Further problems
the nfs server continues not to respond, still causing the same problems. Trying to umount /sunsite gets: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out umount: /sunsite: device is busy The kernel logs also contain: nfs_revalidate_inode: /// getattr failed, ino=2, error=-512 Is this a kernel bug? surely a dead nfs server shouldn't cause such problems? Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte
RE: 1 more Digital Unix question
Our users are using newest version of Outlook 98 and netscape mail on win95 / 98 stations. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Aras Paskus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:14 PM To: Brian Morgan Cc: Debian User Group; recipient list not shown: Subject: Re: 1 more Digital Unix question Hey, I work at an ISP and I've noticed that older Microsoft mail programs (Internet Mail, Exchange, etc.) crap out on certian messages (usually ones with incorrectly formatted headers). hope that helps, --- Aras Paskus [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no absolutes to human misery, things CAN get worse. -Art Bergmann --- On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Brian Morgan wrote: Thanks to all who helped me with the pine FOLDER INTERNAL DATA issue. Got that taken care of. 1 more question that doesn't necessarily directly relate to Debian: POP users on our Digital Unix system (on an Alpha box) often have trouble receiving attachments. If an attachment appears in certain users' email boxes, they simply aren't able to retrieve any mail whatsoever. Their systems will just hang and not get past the message with the attachment. However, using a telnet mail program (like pine) is able to access the messages just fine, delete the attachment, and then allow the user to once again retrieve mail with their POP client. Any suggestions that might help allow users to retrieve these attachments? thanks in advance, Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: module errors
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Pollywog wrote: I don't believe I saw anything like that. The errors are about modules such as IP forwarding, the modules I installed when I recompiled the kernel. I believe another error is about SLIP or PPP but both seem to work. If you compile something into the kernel that could also have been compiled as a module and then try to load that module, you get an error message. Just edit /etc/modules and remove the modules you don't want to be loaded. Regards Sarel Botha
Re: PINE permission...
Hey! UW has given me permission to distribute PINE. COOL. So Pine will be included in the Debian distro now? *excited look* btw, i usually got pine from debs.fuller.edu but it refuses ftp connects now, can someone tell me where i can find it please? Regards Sarel botha
netbase bug?
Can someone try to duplicate this problem please? I have 2 Debian boxes with 3c905b NICs. Both are running 2.2.2 but with netbase 3.1-1.21 the ip-aliasing stuff works, as in the ip alias is created but ifconfig will not show the alias unless you call it explicitly with the interface name. When netbase 3.12-2.1 is installed this behavior is gone and the ifconfig command shows all ip-aliased interfaces when called without flags. I checked the bug database and didn't see a report related to this so I'm wondering if the maintainer caught it and didn't file a report or if I am missing something. Either way, why hasn't a patched version (i.e 3.12-2.1) of netbase been moved to the stable/frozen/slink tree? -Ian __ Ian Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP = F2 92 50 E3 CD D7 A2 D9 C4 CE 08 A6 98 E0 0F 58
Linux CDROM problems
I am running Debian 2.0 and am expriencing problems with my CDROM. Previously all was going well and I could add packages via the 2.0 CD, however recently my CD player has been giving problems (when I power up the active light is flashing constantly and never stops). When I boot into debian the kernel finds that the device is not ready with error (I've appended the dmesg report below) hdb: no response (status = 0x90)Is there any way in which I can manually reset the CD drive from the prompt, because dselect tells me that hdb is not a valid block device. I have a Samsung CDROM which is normally on /dev/hdb - the active light flashes from the moment I power on - could this be a problem with the BIOS settings? I unfortunately lost (i.e. wasn't clever enough to write down) the BIOS settings I had when the CD was working. I believe this may be the case since I am now having similar problems under Windows NT. Many thanks, Dr Iain Scott, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mesg Description: Binary data
Re: fig2dev (fig - gif)
I'm trying to use fig2dev to convert fig format images into gifs, but I keep getting empty gif files. Your right! It's actually the transfig package as a whole which appears to have no support for the generation of gif. If you look at the source code you will find there is support for reading gifs, but none for generating them. gif is a proprietry non-free format. You have to pay a license fee if you want to distribute applications which generate gifs. You can however distribute code which reads gifs for free. The alternatives are to use png or jpeg formats. I can't remember all the details, but all of this is due to some rather famous legal moves initiated a few years ago by a large US corporation. The PNG format was developed as a direct response. By not using gifs you are indirectly promoting the use of open standards/protocols/formats. Some others may have a clearer recollection of the details. Regards ...
Maximal Mount Check
I know a maximal mount check is a normal system check but, is there any percentage of non-contiguous files worrying? Last check I had 1.0% on / and /opt, and 7.3% on /home. TIA Horacio.
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
Frankie wrote: snip You are perhaps referring the Linux Standard Base that RH and Deb have, for the moment, agreed to? The problem is that the greater RH's dominance becomes, the greater the chance that they will no longer see this kind of cooperation as desirable, and in effect decide on their own that RH *is* the Linux Standard Base. If they don't try too hard too quickly, then I fear they just might get away with it. This is exactly what I meant in my original post, when I asked if redhat were the next MS. The thing that worried me most about the poll I saw, was that there was only one major distro, and such a huge gap between the others: If all of the distros are growing at a rate of, say, 30%, then where does that leave us in 1 years time? the bigger get bigger and the smaller get smaller, relatively. That is, debian has to grow at 130% just to stay in the same league as redhat. This is, perhaps, an inherent flaw of capitalism, although lets not go into that. With MS, once they were the biggest, (corporation/market share/whatever) it became very hard for them to be knocked. They always had the upperhand against any of their competitors. (Plus they may (pending result of US suit against MS) have been prepared to play dirty) Thus Redhat, being 3 times as large as debian will be able to push debian aside if it desires, or to impose conditions on debian if it decides to do so. At the moment that seems impossible, and I think it is, but as linux stops being a geeky sideline OS (as is happening at the moment), but becomes a serious player, both in the server and desktop markets, then linux will be mainstream, and then there will be no more friendly cooperation between the distros. This is why debian needs to expand its user base, apart from anything else. We're in agreement, although I'm more pessimistic about Linux's chances in the desktop market. The problem is how can Debian grow its user base any faster? Debian is not a commercial company that defines its success by its market share. Even if Debian had the money to spend on advertising, I'm willing to bet there will be a significant number of developers who would consider paying for advertising as a waste of money. Like George Bonser has said previously, I think the only way that Debian is going to grow its market share better than its currently growing is for the creation of a commercial company which adopts Debian as its base distribution. This company can provide corporate support to enhance Debian's position in the corporate world, and improve the install and maintenance of the system, by adding new software which isn't a priority for current Debian developers. When potential customers discover Debian is purely a volunteer effort, they will assume that Debian is some kind of slap-dash, low quality product. Most of these companies will want a distribution that has corporate support available for it. Unfortunately, I don't see any improvement of the situation, unless such a commercial company actually gets established. -- Ed C.
Re: PINE permission...
http://ompages.com/debian/pkgs/pine/pine.html When I can get around to getting UW to extend distribution permission to debian.org, it will likely be available in non-free. NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ompages.com On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Sarel Botha wrote: Hey! UW has given me permission to distribute PINE. COOL. So Pine will be included in the Debian distro now? *excited look* btw, i usually got pine from debs.fuller.edu but it refuses ftp connects now, can someone tell me where i can find it please? Regards Sarel botha
GNOME.debs
I can't wait, I can't wait please, someone tell me they'll be out any time... NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ompages.com
Re: root doesn't have permission?
Person, Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would cause root not to have permission to delete a file, directory or symlinks. Is there anyway to correct this problem. I've tried chown and chmod and everthing I can think of. Checkout lsattr and chattr (ext2fs), especially the immutable bit. Also check if the directory is on a NFS mounted partition mounted with root_squash option. Torsten -- Homepage: http://www.in-berlin.de/User/myrkr
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: Like George Bonser has said previously, I think the only way that Debian is going to grow its market share better than its currently growing is for the creation of a commercial company which adopts Debian as its base distribution. This company can provide corporate support to enhance Debian's position in the corporate world, and improve the install and maintenance of the system, by adding new software which isn't a priority for current Debian developers I dunno. There's a lot of people who would like to find out about Linux, but aren't prepared to bet the whole farm on it sight unseen. They'll pay say 1100 bucks for a white box PII machine with Windows 98 installed without a qualm however (I did anyhow a couple months ago). Would they demur at paying say 1115 dollars for the same machine with Win 98 on one partition and Debian on another? Of course not-- and some dealers would even think WINDOWS AND LINUX!!! worthy of advertising. I don't see any great problem getting Debian onto a million new boxes, in other words, if someone takes the trouble to assure PC sellers that installing Debian is simple and easy and exceptionally cheap. There'd be a potential problem dealing with newby customers who had Debian on their systems and weren't quite hip on the subject of Linux, but that's another issue. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Shupp California State University, Northridge Graduate Student, Dept. of Anthropology http://www.csun.edu/~ms44278/index.htm
Re: Trouble updating (trashed my X setup)
On Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 06:00:10PM +0100, Peter Karlsson wrote: I was doing a apt-get dist-upgrade to update to the latest versions, when installing the xserver-common package didn't work. This has now trashed my X installation completely, so it doesn't work at all. This is what happens when I try to install it: # dpkg --install /tmp/xserver-common_3.3.2.3a-11.deb (Reading database ... 54635 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace xserver-common 3.3.2.3a-8 (using .../xserver-common_3.3.2.3a-11.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xserver-common ... Segmentation Fault Urp. This looks a lot like dpkg bug #30090. Just for grins, I note you're in .se. Do you happen to have the LANG or any of the LC_* variables set? If so, try unsetting them and PLEASE let me know if that fixes the problem or changes nothing. I suspect it won't, though. The next thing to do is try the --debug option to dpkg, and/or use strace to find out exactly where this problem is occuring. If we can track down this awful bug, maybe Ian Jackson (dpkg author) can fix it. -- G. Branden Robinson | America is at that awkward stage. It's Debian GNU/Linux | too late to work within the system, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] | too early to shoot the bastards. cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | --Claire Wolfe pgpmj7yGE1JmP.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: XFree with S3 Trio3D AGP?
Thanks for your help, I am going to set that up. I have the 2.2 kernel compiled and about to go, and I have downloaded the XF_FBDev. Next thing is how do I configure it? XF86Setup doesn't seem to have the FB listed in the drivers. Do I need to edit XF86Config manually? Can you send me an example? Cheers. Corey -Original Message- From: Bernhard Dobbels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 3:28 AM To: Corey Ralph Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: XFree with S3 Trio3D AGP? On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Corey Ralph wrote: |I have been trying to get XFree86 to work with a Trio3d AGP card, and it |doesn't seem to be supported. indeed, it isn't |Somebody sent me a link to an update for red hat to support it, but I would |prefer to stick with Debian. no, redhat doesn't support. |I am using Debian 2.0 I have upgraded to the XFree86 from slink, and have |download the S3 server 3.3.3.1 from xfree86.org, but it doesn't seem to |work. |Any ideas? Oh, yes, i have it too and it works good in 1024x768 and 32 bit color. But, you have to upgrade to kernel 2.2.x and use the framebuffer device. This gives you that nice little pinguin at boottime ;-) you can find all necessary info in the source docs: linux/Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt and linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt Than you can use X with XF86_FBDev X-server. I'v read in dejanews that some others have it running also. There's also a howto somewhere on the net, but i lost the bookmark :-( It's just a pity that those framebuffers don't work with frequency's above 60Hz. Success! -- Bernhard Dobbels Student Electronic Engineer option Automation and Computersystems. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 25783372 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
