Re: Puertos no encontrados

1999-03-31 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 12:31:08PM +0200, Luis M. Cruz dijo:
 
   ¿Para qué necesita Linux el hueco entre los 15 y 16 MB? ¿Quizás para el
 fb? 

Al revés. _NO_ se debe tener activada.

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Violacion de segmento

1999-03-31 Thread Correcaminos
Al actualizarme a Debian, no para de salirme este mensaje cada dos por
tres. ¿Alguien sabe a que viene...?

==8

elsa:/tmp/borrar$ dpkg -i libpam-doc_0.65-0.9.deb
(Reading database ... 88016 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libpam-doc 0.57b-0.2 (using
libpam-doc_0.65-0.9.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libpam-doc ...
Violación de segmento

elsa:/tmp/borrar$ dpkg -i doc-linux-html_98.09-1.deb
Selecting previously deselected package doc-linux-html.
(Reading database ... 88016 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace doc-linux-html 98.03-1 (using
doc-linux-html_98.09-1.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement doc-linux-html ...
Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish(forking to background)
Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock)
Violación de segmento

elsa:/tmp/borrar$ dpkg -i docbook-stylesheets_1.13-1.deb
(Reading database ... 88016 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace docbook-stylesheets 1.07-1 (using
docbook-stylesheets_1.13-1.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement docbook-stylesheets ...
Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish(forking to background)
Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock)
Violación de segmento

==8

Si alguien me puede dar un empujon, se lo agradecere...

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Re: MP3 - WAV

1999-03-31 Thread Rafael Cordones Marcos
On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 08:16:01PM -0500, Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote:
 El Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 10:17:21PM +, Rafael Cordones Marcos dijo:
 
  Hola,
 Hola...
 
 [Pasar de MP3 a WAV]
  
  lazlo:~$ mpg123 -s fichero.mp3
   
  Y ahora con sox quiero leer de la entrada standard pero no me sale!
  
  lazlo:~$ sox -t raw -u -r 44100 -w -c 2 - snd.wav
 
 Y si intentas `mpg123 -s fichero.mp3  archivo.wav`?

Esto no funciona pero

mpg123 -s fichero.mp3 | sox -t raw -s -r 44100 -w -c 2 - salida.wav

sí!

De hecho, uso salida.cdr para luego grabar el CD.

Gracias Paco Brufal!
 
Best regards,

Rafa C. Marcos
BCN Art Directe (Promotora d'Art)
http://www.bcnartdirecte.com


   Info on Euroart'99 and Index·Art at: http://www.bcnartdirecte.com


OFF-TOPIC : Impresion Postscript

1999-03-31 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos...

Estoy utilizando gs, magicfilter y lprng, para hacer queue bouncing, es
decir una cola de interpretación y transformacion de archivos, para imprimir
ficheros postscript en impresoras remotas que no soportan este formato (Win
3.11).

La impresion del archivo ps, la hace correcta, pero en la primera linea pone
siempre:

%%[ ProductName: GNU Ghostscript ]%%

Y luego al final

%%[Page: 1]%%
%%[LastPage]%%

Todo esto en modo texto. ¿Se puede eliminar esto de la impresion?

Saludos.


Re: Violacion de segmento

1999-03-31 Thread Francisco Callejo
On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 02:13:46AM +0100, Correcaminos wrote:
 Al actualizarme a Debian, no para de salirme este mensaje cada dos por
 tres. ¿Alguien sabe a que viene...?
 
 ==8
 
 elsa:/tmp/borrar$ dpkg -i libpam-doc_0.65-0.9.deb
 (Reading database ... 88016 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace libpam-doc 0.57b-0.2 (using
 libpam-doc_0.65-0.9.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement libpam-doc ...
 Violación de segmento
 

Al parecer es un problema de configuración de locale. Prueba esto:

LANG=C; export LANG

Después, inténtalo otra vez.

Un saludo,

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Re: Iomega ZIP 100

1999-03-31 Thread Coredumped
Juan Valdemoro Saiz wrote:
. Lo màximo que detecte 1 hosts scsi, pero no me
 deja montarla.

Bueno, mi zip no es scsi, pero el problema que tuve yo por lo que he
oido es bastante normal y por si acaso lo comento:
¿Que partición del zip montas?
Al parecer por compatibilidad con antigüos MAC los zip vienen
formateados en la partición 4, de modo que lo que tienes que montar es
hdd4 (en mi caso) o sdX4 (siendo scsi).
Lo mismo no tiene nada que ver con tu problema pero por si acaso...
Saludos Diego
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(Corrección) WindowMaker 0.51 en Debian 2.0

1999-03-31 Thread Xose Manoel Ramos
Hola a todos

Nada, pues como soy un despistado me he olvidado de un paquete, y
bastante importante (la libwraster).

Así que vuelvo a poner el aviso y aprovecho para decir cosas, que antes
he sido un poco parco:

  En mi página web he puesto unos paquetes del gestor de ventanas
  WindowMaker, versión 0.51.
  
  Estos paquetes han sido creados a partir de las fuentes que
  mantiene Marcelo. Yo sólo me he limitado a compilar los binarios
  para que estén enlazados con las versiones antiguas de las
  librerías. Por tanto estos paquetes se pueden instalar dentro de
  una Debian 2.0 (Hamm) y como hay compatibilidad descendente, con
  una Debian 2.1.

  O eso espero. No puedo poner mi mano en el fuego por estos
  paquetes. A mi me funcionan, y tendrían que funcionar. En cualquier
  caso estos paquetes no son oficiales. Sólo los dejo en mi página
  por si os pueden ser útiles.

La dirección es: 
  http://pagina.de/xmanoel/
Que en realidad apunta a: 
  http://www.teleline.es/personal/losramos/xose/linux.html

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Problema al inicializar particion

1999-03-31 Thread Hernan Mauricio Velasquez Nino
Hola a todos

Me encuentro instalando debian 2.1 en un disco duro de 6 gigas, tengo tres
particiones

Una de 1 giga para liunx booteable,
Una de 256 m para swap
El resto para linux (montada sobre /usr)

El hecho es cuando estoy instalando y me dice Inicializar particion linux,
al decirle que me revise sectores malos, el los revisa y en un punto me
sale segmentation fault con el estado de los registros y la pila.

Esto me pasa con cualquiera de las   particioes linux.

Alguien sabe que pasa ?  mi disco duro estara danado ?  sera un bug del
mkfs ?

Gracias

Hernan Mauricio Velasquez
Ingenieria de Sistemas y Computacion
Universidad de los Andes
Santafe de Bogota, Colombia


[Fwd: X com Cyrix XpressGraphics]

1999-03-31 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra
Joao Pissarro wrote:
 
 O problema e' que quando se corre o XF86setup, o monitor fica negro, e nao
 se vee mais nada (e isto com o server para VGA) como nao ha' para
 cyrix

Acho que orientei errado... só podes usar o XF86Setup se tiveres
instalado e funcionando o servidor X VGA16, que funciona em qualquer
interface padrão VGA.  Sem o VGA16, deves usar o xf86configure, que é
modo texto.

Mas antes tens de instalar o servidor correto.  Para isso, tens de
saber quel o chipset da tua interface de vídeo, e este tem de ser
suportado pelo XFree.  Confira a documentação de teu equipamento,
descubra a especificação exata, e confira o suporte em
http://metalab.unc.edu./LDP/HOWTO/, Hardware Compatibility How-to, e em 
http://www.xfree86.org./


  Estou a tentar utilizar o Debian 2.0 com uma motherboard Cyrix MediaGX
  (XpressGraphics), mas nao consigo instalar o XFree Parece que os
 drivers
  VGA e SVGA nao sao compativeis
 
  Não conheço essa placa-mãe específica, mas quanto aos drivers, falas
 dos servidores X (X servers), não?
 
  Os servidores X não entram em conflito, na verdade eles nunca estão
 carregados ao mesmo tempo.  Use o XF86Setup e veja qual deles está ativo.
 
  Aliás, nem é problema da placa-mãe em si, mas de sua interface de
 vídeo.  Tens de escolher o servidor X de acordo com o chipset da tua
 placa, algo como S3, ATI, Cirrus, etc.


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Re: Where is /etc/rc.d/rc.local on Debian?

1999-03-31 Thread Ed Cogburn
Marek Habersack wrote:
 
 On 28 Mar 1999, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 
  In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  Marek Habersack  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 28 Mar 1999, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
   The guys from the LSB (Linux Base Standard) are currently talking with
   Debian and RedHat to agree on one standard /etc/init.d structure. It
   will probably be abstracted and have symbolic names and dependencies.
  Eechh yet another standard?? Like it wasn't easier to chose one from 
  the
  existing ones...
 
  As you know, RedHat, Debian, Suse etc have very different bootup
  procedures. We don't want ISVs to bother with that. So we need a
  system that works across distributions.
 Hmm...  that's right, but it's only a matter of people talking to each other
 and agreeing upon one policy - the dists that don't follow the chosen
 standard, can rearrange their layout starting with the next release (yes, I
 know, it might be quite difficult, but worth the effort). There's no point in
 creating something new instead of using one of the few, very well tested and
 proven solutions.


The closer RH gets to becoming the 'de facto' standard, the less
likely they are to be inclined to talk to *anyone* about
'standards' for Linux distros.  I fear the point at which RH drops
its interest in LSB and other cooperative discussions about
standards and simply says: If you want the standard Linux, you
have to buy it from us.  Power corrupts, and absolute power
corrupts absolutely.  And yes, if you haven't figured out by now,
I *don't* trust RH.  :-)


 
  On debian-devel there has been talk about a better setup with dpkg-like
  dependancies. This is a good thing. You don't have to bother with at
  which priority to place a new service. You can just say this service
  must be started after networking and name services are available.
 That's certainly a good thing.
 
  The LSB people are seriously looking at a system already created by
  fellow Debian developers which does all this and more.
 
  Normally I don't like changing something that's working either. I
  do not really like things like file-rc. But this is actually something
  that is not an alternative but a superiour solution.
 I agree. I used to think that what RH uses to setup the daemon startup order
 is good, but file-rc is much better. Well, it's one of those changes that make
 your life easier IMO.
 
 marek
 
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Re: Where is /etc/rc.d/rc.local on Debian?

1999-03-31 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:

   The point being, do NOT assume that the person trying to load the orignial
   Red Hat package even knows what a Makefile is.
  If he manages to understand how to convert an rpm to a tarball, he will 
  surely
  understand how to use alien to make a .deb package, and will be smart enough
  to understand the process.
 
 
   Marek, I think George's point is Joe Blow doesn't *have* to
 understand using alien to convert a .rpm to a .deb, alien does
 everything for him.  The problem starts when the newly created
 .deb still fails to work because of assumptions about the layout
 of the distro made by the creators of the .rpm.
Ok, I agree. I feel I have to explain myself a little bit. Working for an ISP,
I have contact with many people working on Winblows-equipped machines. Those
people have accounts on our Linux machines and when faced with the necessity
to actually read some documentation, they are completely shocked one HAS to
learn something! Winblows created a generation of totally ignorant power
users of PCs - M$ policy is to free people from thinking by creating software
which does almost everything for the user - either automatically or by
dictating all the steps required to achieve some goal. It may seem it is good
- an average user doesn't have to master obscure techniques to manage his data
and do his work, but what happens if the infallible Micro$oft software
reveals another undocumented feature (a.k.a a bug :-)))? Our power user
proud of his knowledge opens wide his eyes, stares at the Big Blue Screen(tm)
with disbelief in his eyes and finally dials the M$ support number (where he
will learn nothing new...). And the sad thing is that usually the problem is
quite obvious, easy to fix or work around - solution is at hand, but Joe Blow
hasn't been taught how to THINK when using a computer - he'd been given a
piece of software that CLAIMS it doesn't require ANY knowledge to use it, that
is supposed to work for ever and ever. Amen. Unfortunately, the software kicks
back at our Joe and he knows nothing about how to win that game, he has NO
resources (of some value) when he can read about the problem, even more - he
thinks the software is so perfect he doesn't need to know ANYTHING about it -
it will work, period... If he was told: Joe, the software will work in most
cases, but should it fail you have the documentation, right there, use this or
that command to read it, it's nothing hard, just a few tips - you will save
time and money by fixing most of the problems on your own I'm sure he'd
manage the situation...
  So, I think the way to go is NOT TO DO EVERYTHING FOR THE USER, but to GIVE
ADVICE, EXPLAIN, HELP and MAKE THEM THINK a little bit about what's happening
in their computer. Unix has never been and, I hope, it will never be an
operating system that frees people from thinking...  

   I've said this before and I'll say it again here:  alien does
 *NOT* solve the problem of an absence of a 'standard' for Linux
 distros.
Is such a standard possible at all? I mean, not on a paper - they already
exist, after all, but is it possible that RH, Debian and other dist vendors
will ever come to some agreement? It doesn't show on the surface, but there's
a war raging under the cover - some want to provide GOOD products, but some
just want to make money... Sad but true...

marek



Re: Where is /etc/rc.d/rc.local on Debian?

1999-03-31 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:

  Hmm...  that's right, but it's only a matter of people talking to each other
  and agreeing upon one policy - the dists that don't follow the chosen
  standard, can rearrange their layout starting with the next release (yes, I
  know, it might be quite difficult, but worth the effort). There's no point 
  in
  creating something new instead of using one of the few, very well tested and
  proven solutions.
 
 
   The closer RH gets to becoming the 'de facto' standard, the less
 likely they are to be inclined to talk to *anyone* about
 'standards' for Linux distros.  I fear the point at which RH drops
That's a sad truth... 

 its interest in LSB and other cooperative discussions about
 standards and simply says: If you want the standard Linux, you
 have to buy it from us.  Power corrupts, and absolute power
 corrupts absolutely.  And yes, if you haven't figured out by now,
 I *don't* trust RH.  :-)
Neither do I. I spent too much time making their dist a safe one to use on a
public access server...

marek



Re: RedHat = MS-Linux???

1999-03-31 Thread Ed Cogburn
Joey Hess wrote:
 
 George Bonser wrote:
  Yes, Red Hat is well on the way to becoming Microsoft-like Linux. They
  screech their shrill cries of But everything we do is open source but
  when you look at it you also find that it is also incompatable with every
  other distro and would take so much trouble to modify as to being just as
  easy to completely rewrite it ... the right way.
 
  I tried porting the Red Hat GUI printer management stuff to Debian once
  but gave up once I realized that it was going to take more than a couple
  of hours and involve modifying several files. That was about a year ago, I
  am not sure if they have cleaned it up since then.
 
 I can't see this as anything but redhat bashing. I happen to maintain the
 package of rpm for debian (since I maintain alien, which uses rpm). I
 haven't considered rpm expecially difficult to port (definitly a misnomer)
 to debian.
 
 Looking at the debianized source of rpm, I do notice I've modifed some 10 or
 20 files. Thinking back, this did take more than a couple of hours. But
 compared to many other things I've debianized, it was cake.
 
 I'm not interested in participating in yet another redhat flame war. I'm
 speaking up only to say that I think the fact you base this posting on are
 flawed.


The facts may not be here yet, although the 'Heinz ketchup'
remark is revealing, but that doesn't mean they won't happen in
short order.
I don't trust RH because they are RH, but because they have such
dominant position in the Linux market that they are on the verge
of a de facto monopoly.  The monopoly status will occur when Linux
application makers decide they can't afford to make different
packages for the different distros and just settle on RH as the
default (doesn't this sound familiar?).  This is why a basic
standard for Linux distros is so important.


-- 
Ed C.


Re: flying: not enough colours

1999-03-31 Thread george . russell
Graham Ashton wrote:

 not enough colors: I need 10 colors + 4 planes.
 
 xdpyinfo tells me;
 
 class:TrueColor

flying runs only in 8bpp .  startx -- -bpp 8

 depth:16 planes
 available colormap entries:64 per subfield
 red, green, blue masks:0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f
 significant bits in color specification:6 bits

HTH
George Russell
-- 
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, 
One Ring to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them,
In the Land of Mordor where the shadows lie.


Linux on a large disk

1999-03-31 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,

Nowadays, it is very common to have a disk ranging from 6.4GB to 10.1GB.

It is also common lots people will install both windoze and linux on the same

disk. I am just about to install debian on three computers for my friends. They

all have a large disk with the first partition being occupied by windoze. Due to

the fact that lilo cannot see anything beyond 1024 cylinders, what is the best

way to deal with this fact?

I have tried with the command something like append=hd=8400,16,63 in

/etc/lilo.conf, but has not luck.

Could someone please tell me how I can overcome this
problem???

Shao

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Re: RedHat = MS-Linux

1999-03-31 Thread Ed Cogburn
King Lee wrote:
 
 On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, eric Farris wrote:
  A point that should be brought up here, i think, is what the user stands
  to gain from a MS-ish distribution of Linux. A MS-Linux distro would be
  (1) overpriced, (2) underpowered, (3) buggy, and (4) popular. RH, from
  my explorations, fits this definition.
 
  So RH gets to become the definition of Linux, so what? unlike the
 
 snip
 
 No problem with me provided that third party non-free  software,
 i.e., Oracle, Infomax, etc are easily ported to Debian, FBSD,
 NetBSD, Slackware, etc.


In the short term, this may not be too much of a problem.  The
long term view, however, of a market dominated by 'MS-Linux' will
be much grimmer.  At some point, RH would make it harder and
harder for app developers to support more than one distro.
The issue is not that the Linux kernel would still be available
as open-source, the problem is what happens when 85-95% of app
developers are writing their software only for RH.  The 'open
source' community would not be terribly affected, and would
certainly continue support of Debian and others, but if RH can
wrap up the commercial side of the Linux phenomenon, Debian will
never go much farther than it is now.

 
 Different distros offer different adminstrative tools, and different
 packages. Distros  offering  different administrative tools is a good
 thing IMHO;  the tools for newbies should  be different than
 for the guru. However, if I want to run Oracle,
 I do not want to have to switch to RH.
 
 If third party software vendors  (that do not provide source)
 had a tree (like teTeX) and have envionmental variables point to parts
 of tree, it seems that any distro can easily include the software
 in a packge.  Is it that simple? If so, are the vendors doing this?
 
 King Lee
 
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Latex -- Plz help

1999-03-31 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
I know that I should not fight the layout against latex. But I
really like to do the following in latex for my resume.
I tried to use the tabular environment and not very pleased with the
outcome...
I want to do something like this in latex:

University Courses:
First Year
-Computing 1A(Functional Programming)
-Computing 1B(Procefure Programming)
-Higher Mathematics 1A
-

Work Experence:
-Programmer
at
-Administrator
at.
-help desk at the university of
  New South Walesl
   and ..

I use the following code in latex to produce the about format:

\begine{supertabular}{ll}
University Courses: \\
First Year \\
-\hspace{0.5cm} Computing 1A \\
..

Work Experence: \\
-\hspace{0.5cm} Programmer at.. \\

I cannot use the tabular with {lll} because I actually want the second
and the third column overlap. Also, with the above code, latex does not
automatically break the line for me it writes everything in one
line

Please help me


Thanks for any advise in advance(PS. I do have the latex companion
bood, but could not find anything useful to above)

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got plug and play?

1999-03-31 Thread Jayson Baird
When using isapnp with lspci it says it tries to find the directory
/proc/bus/pci/...
but cannot. when I then go in to make the directory, I get an operation not
permitted error. It's nuts. Any other way to install PnP devices? or is
this an easy fix and it's just over my Linux-semi-newbie head? :)


 

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What happened to put -C option in ncftp?

1999-03-31 Thread Mark Phillips

I used to be able to continue an interrupted ftp upload in ncftp just
by typing put -C filename.  It would continue the upload where it
left off.  But since upgrading to slink, ncftp no longer seems to have
this option.  Does anyone know what happened to it?

Cheers,

Mark.



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Neal Stephenson uses debian

1999-03-31 Thread Joey Hess
http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning_print.html

I use a distribution called Debian
what really sold me on it was its phenomenal bug database
-- Neal Stephenson

If you have read Neal Stephenson's books, this probably makes you quite happy.
If you haven't read his books, I suggest you start with _Snow_Crash_. :-)

-- 
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ps man page

1999-03-31 Thread Albert D. Cahalan


 BTW, has anyone else noticed that the manpage for ps(1) is uglier
 than sin? Whose idea of nroff formatting is that?

It looks OK on the console and it looks OK in an xterm.

 Mine looks okay; well, other than it being a man page and I find
 most man pages ugly to begin with, but only because I speak English
 instead of Developer  :) (why don't they ever give real-life
 examples of the command instead of just techno-speak?)

I do give examples. Look near the end.

 It's not a man page at all. Especially, the author seems to be
 completely ignorant of any text formatiing system.

 Yeah, this is a bug report. ps (1) should be a man page formatted
 in the troff format.

It is a man page. It is formatted with troff. Look at the damn header,
and you will see troff. Obviously I am not ignorant of any text
formatting system. I know enough to beat troff into submission.

I didn't write the page like I did just for fun. I wrote it in that
strange way because a normal version looked horrid. I'd love to see
someone find a way to make a man page look good without my hack.

Check out this line from a normal version of the page:

--- begin junk ---
   For sorting, BSD Ooptionsyntaxis
--- end junk ---

I would be most grateful to anyone who can fix that abomination while
making productive use of the standard macro package. I do not consider
huge gaps of whitespace acceptable. Perfect justification is bad enough
on a system that supports kerning, but it is a complete joke in an xterm.

After you fix that, you need to kill the hyphenation. As you can see,
I fixed the problem using brute force. Hyhenation has no place in a
modern technical document.

Next, you need to make the option tables look good. Each option should
be displayed on exactly one line, not wrapped around. That means you
need to change the left and right margins to zero. All of the option
descriptions should line up too.

Messy non-alignment like this is not acceptable:

   -N   negate selection
   -pselect by PID
   t Select by tty
   -l long format
   -w wide output
   V   show version info
   Muse alternate core (try -n or N instead)

Note that those are in different sections; they should still line up.

There is one last problem, but I was not able to fix it either.
Page headers and footers should only appear on physical paper output.
When viewing a page in an xterm, page numbers are useless noise.


Re: Star Office 5 Potato/Glibc2.1??

1999-03-31 Thread David Stern
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:11:40 CST, wrote:
 Hello,
 I was the one who posted the original message for help with this.
 After reading your message, I played around with the soffice wrapper that
 calls soffice.bin.  Here's how I got mine to work...
 
 1) I got the libc deb from slink.
 2) I manually unpacked the archive (ar -x libc???.deb; tar xvfz data.tar.gz)
 3) I edited the soffice wrapper:
 a) In the section where it sets the LD_LIBRARY_PATH (I believe it is the
 *) option in the block that starts with case $sd_platform in), I
 added the path where my glibc2.0 is located to the BEGINNING of the
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/myuser/glibc2.0/lib:$sd_inst/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 
 b) The last line of the soffice script, I changed as follows:
 exec /home/myuser/glibc2.0/lib/ld-linux.so.2 $sd_inst/bin/$sd_binary $1 $2
  $3 $4 $5 $6 $7 $8 $9
 
 It took a *WHILE* (8-15 seconds) for it to load the first time (I run a
 P200 w/128M RAM), but it did load, and seems to function properly.  When the
 program first loads, it gives me a message box that says, Error opening
 document /home/myuser/Office50/bin/soffice.bin: Nonexistent object.  Filter
 not found.  I click the OK button, and it works.

That did it, *thanks!*

Very well written, too. ;-)
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Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98

1999-03-31 Thread mike shupp
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know how to mix FAT32/FAT16/Linux partitions on a single hard
 drive?

You can't convert drives of less than 256 Megabytes to FAT32, so if
your hard drive is partitioned with 256 Mb logical or primary 
partitions, Windows's FDISK will presumably not convert them 
automtically when you tell it you'd like large disk support.  More
practically, ignore FDISK and convert the partitions that you 
want to go to FAT32 individually.  It's not a lengthy process.

 I want to do this because my 99.9%-full 1.2GB FAT16 partition expanded to
 1.6GB when I copied it to a 2GB FAT16 partition(due to a larger cluster
 size, I guess), but took only 800MB on a FAT32 partition.

Hmmm.  Your 1.2 and 2.0 partitions would have the same size cluster size
-- 32 Kilobytes.  FAT32 brings that down to 4 Kb per cluster, which
explains your size reduction.  

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Re: No LILO Boot after Re-Install Windoze95

1999-03-31 Thread JW Park
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:34:04 -0500, you wrote:

It seems like I remember reading somewhere once that the solution was to boot
using the Windows Rescue/Reboot disk and go to command prompt and do an fdisk
/mbr and then re-install lilo. 

You have to reinstall LILO but at different place.  Look at your
lilo.config and find the line that starts with boot=.  Change it to
boot=/dev/hda  You probably have /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2 or something
like that. Then do lilo again.

But I've caused myself some extreme pain
mucking with the mbr on a guess. I've ran Linux servers for a couple of years
now, but setting up a dual-boot and making a desktop system is almost another
world.

heh, I am having devil of time setting up a server.  But I can set up
quad-boot(english,korean,japanese win95/NT, and linux)  machine blind
folded.  


Re: Samba question

1999-03-31 Thread Daniel J. Brosemer
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Peter Iannarelli wrote:

 Hello all:
 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to pull the
 password used to connect/logon to a samba share ?
 
 I know that the user ID can be acquired via %U.

Shouldn't be possible... passwords are passed as hashes from the client
and hashed again by the server and compared against a hash that it
keeps... yes, a hash of a hash, kinda strange, but... anyway, most of the
time the server is not given a plaintext password, so in short, no.

HTH

-Dano



Re: got plug and play?

1999-03-31 Thread Gregory T. Norris
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 08:09:55PM -0500, Jayson Baird wrote:
 When using isapnp with lspci it says it tries to find the directory
 /proc/bus/pci/...
 but cannot. when I then go in to make the directory, I get an operation not
 permitted error. It's nuts. Any other way to install PnP devices? or is
 this an easy fix and it's just over my Linux-semi-newbie head? :)

Wild guess... you'r running a 2.0.x kernel?  lspci only works with the
2.1.x/2.2.x kernels.  Just uninstall the pciutils package and that error
will disappear.  As for /proc/... - /proc is a virtual filesystem, not a
physical one, which makes information from the kernel available.  As
such, you can't create new files or directories there (though you can
write new values to a few of them in order to modify the kernel's
behaviour).

What you probably want to do in order to get your PnP devices configured
is to run pnpdump (as root), in order to create a config-file for
isapnp.  Then you'll want to view/update it, in order to be sure that
all the values are correct.  Finally, start isapnp and watch the
messages.


Upgrading slink - potato

1999-03-31 Thread jusak
Hi all,

I need some information about upgrading from slink to potato since I need 
to use some new (networking) features implemented in kernel 2.2.x.

I have been using slink quite for a while (before its release) .
The machine is now running kernel 2.2.3 and serves as web (apache-ssl), 
proxy/firewall, mail/pop (qmail), router/gateway as well as DNS servers.

What is the best way of upgrading without breaking the current system 
(I plan to use dselect) and how big is the risk?  
What about the incompatibility of Glibc 2.1 and Glibc 2.0?
Which programs have to be recompiled?

I couldnt find information on the web, so please help me.

Thanks,

jusak


Re: Using powersave Features on monitor

1999-03-31 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 30 Mar, Sean wrote about Re: Using powersave Features on monitor
 But does that really send it into powersave mode?  When setterm blanks the 
 screen,
 the CRT guns are still running, as the back of the monitor is still warm to 
 the
 touch, whereas when Windows puts the monitor into powersave mode, the back of 
 the
 monitor becomes cool.
 

setterm can do both, from the man page:

 setterm [ -blank [ 0-60 ] ]
 setterm [ -powersave [ on|vsync|hsync|powerdown|off ] ]
 setterm [ -powerdown [ 0-60 ] ]

blank just blanks the screen after [0-60] minutes.  powerdown shuts if
off after [0-60] minutes, and powersave does in now.  Try it an walk
away wait a few minuts before hitting a key.  If the monitor takes a
few seconds to come to life then it has shut it down.


 Sean
 
 
 Hamori Andras wrote:
 
 Jeff Katcher wrote:
 
  Hi all, I would like to use the PowerSave mode on my monitor (in win9x
  when i am idle for X minutes the screen goes into powersave mode) is
  there a way to do this in Linux?
 

 On a Linux console, you can enable this via setterm(1). For X, xset(1x)
 can do the job.

 András

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Re: xconsole placement

1999-03-31 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 30 Mar, ktb wrote about xconsole placement
 I have been working on this one for awhile and can't come up with an
 answer.  Xconsole is iconified when I start X and when I deiconify it,
 it opens off screen.  What I want is xconsole to be open and in view at
 the bottom of my screen when my X session starts.  Xconsole seems to be
 coming from xdm as it isn't present when I used the command startx. 
 There is a line for xconsole geometry in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
 
  fi
   rm -f /var/run/xconsole_0.pid
   # start fresh xconsole and store its PID
   xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -notify -verbose -fn fixed \
 -exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole 
   echo $!  /var/run/xconsole_0.pid
 fi
 
 I tried changing the geometry numbers but that just made xconsole load
 in the xdm loggin page and when I logged in to X xconsole was
 iconified.  I don't understand the programming strings of the file so
 maybe what I did was wrong.  
 
 I tried putting this line,
 
 + I exec xconsole -geometry =480x130+153+400 -exitOnFail -daemon
^
^
remove the equal sign

   
 
 in my ~/.fvwm2/init.hook file.  The xconsole icon briefly appeared and
 then no xconsole at all.  
 
 If I try opening xconsole from the root menu of fvwm2 xconsole says
 Couldn't open console.  I've looked at the fvwm2 user's archives,
 debian user's archives and various man pages.  I could use some help.

Make sure that the permissions are good on /dev/xconsole, so that
regular users can read the fifo,  mine is also set to write but I
don't think that should be, I will have to check that.

% ls -l /dev/xconsole 
   0 prw-rw-rw-   1 root root0 Mar 30 21:28 /dev/xconsole|



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Re: got plug and play? (more)

1999-03-31 Thread Jayson Baird
upon uninstalling lspci, the error did disappear, but I get this one instead:

lspci not found, so PCI resource conflict not checked.

I did look at the isapnp webpage on this error, and it says, well if this
happens, it probably won't. Any more ideas?


At 02:24 AM 3/31/99 +, you wrote:
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 08:09:55PM -0500, Jayson Baird wrote:
 When using isapnp with lspci it says it tries to find the directory
 /proc/bus/pci/...
 but cannot. when I then go in to make the directory, I get an operation not
 permitted error. It's nuts. Any other way to install PnP devices? or is
 this an easy fix and it's just over my Linux-semi-newbie head? :)

Wild guess... you'r running a 2.0.x kernel?  lspci only works with the
2.1.x/2.2.x kernels.  Just uninstall the pciutils package and that error
will disappear.  As for /proc/... - /proc is a virtual filesystem, not a
physical one, which makes information from the kernel available.  As
such, you can't create new files or directories there (though you can
write new values to a few of them in order to modify the kernel's
behaviour).

What you probably want to do in order to get your PnP devices configured
is to run pnpdump (as root), in order to create a config-file for
isapnp.  Then you'll want to view/update it, in order to be sure that
all the values are correct.  Finally, start isapnp and watch the
messages.



 

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ddd and glibc2.1

1999-03-31 Thread Evan Van Dyke
Ever since upgrading to glibc2.1 my ddd has been segfaulting upon
startup... anyone know how this is doing in the 'fix' line?
I see that it's been reported to the buglist, but no recent
info...

--Evan

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Re: No LILO Boot after Re-Install -- Thanks to All!

1999-03-31 Thread Jeff Hill
Thank you  for your suggestion, JW Park, and to the suggestions of others . I 
tried
Park's suggestion, but that made it boot only to Linux, leaving no opportunity 
to boot
to Windoze. I tried others' suggestions, without any direct success. But it 
payed off
in the end.

I played around with fdisk, retagging the main ext2 partition (hda2) bootable, 
then
non-bootable, then re-tagging the Linux native partition (hda1) as bootable. 
The first
time I tagged the Linux native partition as bootable, I got a message back when 
I
rebooted that there was a partition error (and then the system froze). However, 
after
fooling around and trying it a second time, it worked.

I love computer science, as they use to call it when I went to school.

Thanks to all.

Jeff Hill

JW Park wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:34:04 -0500, you wrote:

 It seems like I remember reading somewhere once that the solution was to boot
 using the Windows Rescue/Reboot disk and go to command prompt and do an 
 fdisk
 /mbr and then re-install lilo.

 You have to reinstall LILO but at different place.  Look at your
 lilo.config and find the line that starts with boot=.  Change it to
 boot=/dev/hda  You probably have /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2 or something
 like that. Then do lilo again.

 But I've caused myself some extreme pain
 mucking with the mbr on a guess. I've ran Linux servers for a couple of years
 now, but setting up a dual-boot and making a desktop system is almost another
 world.

 heh, I am having devil of time setting up a server.  But I can set up
 quad-boot(english,korean,japanese win95/NT, and linux)  machine blind
 folded.

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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-03-31 Thread Jeff Hill
I'm sorry, did I miss something again? Lose with Linux over what?

Linux , originally designed (ala, Unix) to run on mini/mainframe computers, 
gave us
server and development capabilities to run on personal computers. Windows, 
designed to
run on personal computers, is now trying to give us server capabilities.

Hurray for those who wish to turn transport trucks into sedans, and those who 
want to
turn sedans into transport trucks.

For my part, I'll keep driving my sedan to visit clients, and have the truck do 
the
tough stuff.

Regards,

Jeff Hill

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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-03-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 07:58:00PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
 Ohh...  You mean make it easy for idiot users to send large
 attachments through a medium that wasn't designed for it, shouldn't be used
 in that manner, and causes more problems than is needed with each step of the
 way.
 If I were to do it I'd have the email client teach them how to send a
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@^%$# URL.

Wrong solution. Users should not have to adapt to technology (within
reason); the technology should allow users to send huge email attachments
if they need to. Otherwise it should be fixed.


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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-03-31 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:38:20 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

Wrong solution. Users should not have to adapt to technology (within
reason); the technology should allow users to send huge email attachments
if they need to. Otherwise it should be fixed.

This is not within reason.  5 years ago it was called a Denial of Service
attack to send large attachments via email to someone.  Today it is *STILL* a
denial of service attack and will still be a DoS 5 years from now.  Yes,
technology should be adapted to work for people, not the other way around. 
But people should also be aware of the technology presented to them and use
all of the alternatives before demanding that something they barely know,
much less understand, should be changed.

The technology is there to send large files easily.  Embed a URL into an
email message and most email clients will automatically launch either the FTP
client to get the file, or the browser which has FTP capabilities to get the
file.  

This is the proper thing to do since it then lets the other end decide
not only *IF* they want the file, but *when* then want the file.  
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Re: MTA and SMTP ident

1999-03-31 Thread G. Crimp
On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 07:32:52PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
 
  GC == G Crimp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 GC I think you are right, though, that it is the list software and
 GC not the MTA that is silently discarding my mail.
 
 Also note that the list software doesn't see the SMTP envelope (it is
 not passed on final delivery).
 
 GC My From: field is not a problem (thanks mutt !) but I'll give the
 GC Sender header a crack and see if that makes a difference.
 
 Good Luck. It is not failure to have the Sender different from the
 From:-header. Actually the Sender should be the correct mailbox of
 the sender, even if he changes the From-header. Maybe you don't have a 
 registred hostname for your box, and the list software tries to
 resolve it and fails (or such some).
 
No I don't have a registered name for my box, but my box's name doesn't
appear anywhere,  I have visible_name set to the name of my ISP.  It is just
the local user name that gets sent out (ie, my user name on my local box)
and appended to my ISP domain.  My local user name is not the same as my
user name on any of my exteranl acounts, so the resulting combination is
illegal.  BTW, you have spoken a couple of times of the acceptable behaviour
of mail agents in handling of From: and Sender: header etc.  Where are you
getting this information ?  I have looked at 4 or 5 RFCs and have seen
nothing of the sort.  I have discovered a couple of sources of RFCs but none
so far that does nice indexing according to topic.  Any help in trying to
find info ?

Thanks again,

Gerald


Re: Latex -- Plz help

1999-03-31 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 1999-03-31 12:08, Shao Zhang wrote:

 I want to do something like this in latex:
 
 University Courses:
 First Year
 -Computing 1A(Functional Programming)
 -Computing 1B(Procefure Programming)
 -Higher Mathematics 1A
 -
 
 Work Experence:
 -Programmer
 at
 -Administrator
 at.
 -help desk at the university of
   New South Walesl
and ..

Consider this (which is pretty closely to what I use myself):

...
\documentclass{article}
...

\section*{Education.}

\begin{itemize}
\end{itemize}


\section*{Work Experience.}

\noindent Job1
\begin{itemize}
\item {\bf Function1} some description
\item {\bf Function2} some other description
\end{itemize}

\noindent Job2
\begin{itemize}
\item {\bf Function1} some description
\item {\bf Function2} some other description
\end{itemize}
...


Also, there must be resume documentclasses out there as well.


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Handheld-Organizer connected

1999-03-31 Thread matthschulz
I'm looking for a recommendation for an Handheld-Organizer like SHARP
Wizard OZ-650 or YO-470.
Does someone know about the support in LINUX or can recommend a
supported Organizer ?

Matth


Re: No LILO Boot after Re-Install Windoze95

1999-03-31 Thread Jason Willoughby
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Jeff Hill wrote:

 After re-installing Windows95 on a dual-boot set-up, the machine
 now boots directly to Windows. I tried booting to Debian from
 floppy and then re-installing lilo, but that didn't help --
 machine still goes directly to Windows. I think I need to mess
 with the MBR, but not certain how to proceed.

Make sure boot=/dev/hda (or your scsi drive, whatever) is in
/etc/lilo.conf.  I had this problem as well some time back.  The original
Debian install wrote the MBR correctly, but after that I always wrote to
the boot record of /dev/hda4 (my root disk).


Failed partition check

1999-03-31 Thread Robbie Huffman

What would cause a 2.2.5 kernel to fail at bootup time when it reaches
the Parition Check section? It says it can't find the driver for HDA,
and subsequently panics. This is a standard PC with IDE drive. I have
the ext2 stuff built into the kernel. What else could I be missing? It
doesn't make any sense to me.

Thanks much,
Robbie


OT?: What to install for Python??

1999-03-31 Thread Kenward Vaughan
I am looking at several packages which require Python.  I know zilch
about it.  There appear to be around 3 zillion python debs :)  ... are
there any I probably _shouldn't_ install?

(The apps are pysol and siag, FWIW.)

Thanks from this rank amateur!

Kenward


Re: Handheld-Organizer connected

1999-03-31 Thread Mitch Blevins
In foo.debian-user, you wrote:
 I'm looking for a recommendation for an Handheld-Organizer like SHARP
 Wizard OZ-650 or YO-470.
 Does someone know about the support in LINUX or can recommend a
 supported Organizer ?

Palm.  I gave up my Sharp 2 years ago and haven't regretted it.
Debian has good support for synchronizing and programming the Palm Pilot.
You can even run Linux in a simulated PalmPilot on Debian if you want
(althought it doesn't really do much yet..)

-Mitch


Re: Latex -- Plz help

1999-03-31 Thread William Park
On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 12:08:41PM +, Shao Zhang wrote:
 Hi,
 I know that I should not fight the layout against latex. But I
 really like to do the following in latex for my resume.
 I tried to use the tabular environment and not very pleased with the
 outcome...
 I want to do something like this in latex:
 
 University Courses:
 First Year
 -Computing 1A(Functional Programming)
 -Computing 1B(Procefure Programming)
 -Higher Mathematics 1A
 -
 
 Work Experence:
 -Programmer
 at
 -Administrator
 at.
 -help desk at the university of
   New South Walesl
and ..
 
 I use the following code in latex to produce the about format:
 
 \begine{supertabular}{ll}
 University Courses: \\
 First Year \\
 -\hspace{0.5cm} Computing 1A \\
 ..
 
 Work Experence: \\
 -\hspace{0.5cm} Programmer at.. \\
 
 I cannot use the tabular with {lll} because I actually want the second
 and the third column overlap. Also, with the above code, latex does not
 automatically break the line for me it writes everything in one
 line
 
 Please help me
 
 
 Thanks for any advise in advance(PS. I do have the latex companion
 bood, but could not find anything useful to above)
 
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Why don't you use list?  Eg.
\begin{description}
\item[University Courses:] \\
\begin{description}
\item[First Year] \\
\begin{itemize}
\item Computing 1A (Functional Programming)
\item ...
\end{itemize}
\end{description}
\item[Work Experience:]
...
\item[at..]
...
\item[at..]
...
\end{description}


ISP Connection

1999-03-31 Thread Peter Ludwig
Hello peoples,

I've just transfered over to a new ISP, and I'm having some problems with
my connection to the ISP.

I've managed to manouver myself into a position where I can get online,
but it does not seem to be online fully... it's a little hard to
describe, sort of a funny feeling I've gotten :- i.e. not everything is
connecting correctly, ftp has to be in PASSIVE mode, etc...

I also have the occassional hassle that the connection does not happen...
oh, it dials in and everything but then just sort of stops and hangs up..
really weird... anyhow my new ISP does not support Linux (though I think
the guys who I talked to on the phone about it might be changing their own
systems soon grin).. but anyhow, as the ISP doesn't officially support
linux I'm in a bit of a bind here.

To connect under Windows here's all I have to do :-

setup the internet connection (dial-up networking, dns entries, etc.)
dial the ISP
enter username and password in box that appears onscreen (yep, a little
box comes up and asks me for my username and password).


To have it connect under Linux I've done the following :-

setup the internet connection (dns entries, pppconfig, etc.)
modified the PAP secrets file (this took a little bit of figuring out but
I finally figured it out).
dial the ISP
it connects... but with the problems I mentioned above..


I've since looked back at my win95 connection settings and it has the box
log onto remote network checked... I tried connecting that way, and yep
no funny box opening up...

If anyone has any clues on to what I can do to help configure the linux
setup so I can do it that way it would be prefered... I hate slow links,
that's why I bought a 56K modem for :)

Catch ya's l8r,
Peter Ludwig



Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.

1999-03-31 Thread JW Park
On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:48:21 -0800, you wrote:


One responder asked why would you not want to leave it fat32. My
experience is that lilo will not work on the mbr of a fat32 drive, 

huh???  Then I must be hallucinating right now.  LILO do work with
mbr of hdd with fat32 partition.



Re: flying: not enough colours

1999-03-31 Thread Graham Ashton
On Wednesday 31 March, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Graham Ashton wrote:
 
  not enough colors: I need 10 colors + 4 planes.
  
  xdpyinfo tells me;
  
  class:TrueColor
 
 flying runs only in 8bpp .  startx -- -bpp 8

oh damn. thanks for the info.

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Re: ISP Connection

1999-03-31 Thread Joop Stakenborg
On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Peter Ludwig wrote:
 Hello peoples,
 
 I've just transfered over to a new ISP, and I'm having some problems with
 my connection to the ISP.
 

[ cut some text away for sake of clarity ]

I would suggest the following:

Have a look at your /etc/ppp/options file, uncomment the #debug
line, bring up your ppp connection and have a look in /var/log/messages
to see if you can find any funny things.

Also, did you configure your serial port correctly?
Did you supply the speed for the serial line in your provider script?

Give us some more info, how does your chatscript look like,  what
options do you use for ppp?

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Re: Can apt-get work via a proxy?

1999-03-31 Thread Mark Phillips
 On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Mark Phillips wrote:
 
  I can gain http access via a proxy.  Is it possible to setup apt-get
  to download stuff via this proxy?
 
 export http_proxy=http://myproxy:port/;
 apt-get foo..

You sent me this reply a while ago.  Up till now I haven't had to use
it, but today I needed to, but had this problem with it:


Err http://www.au.debian.org stable/main stow 1.3.2-11
  407 Proxy authorization required
Failed to fetch http://www.au.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/a
dmin/stow_1.3.2-11.deb
  407 Proxy authorization required
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?


The problem is due to the fact that my http proxy sometimes asks for
authorization.  Under netscape it pops up a dialog box asking for my
name and a password.  I am presuming this capability hasn't been built
into apt.  Any chance that it will be soon?

Thanks,

Mark.



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Re: star office

1999-03-31 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Shawn Nguyen wrote:

 Hi,
 
   I am having some problem with Star Office 5.0, could someone shed some
 light on the situation?  Apparently when I try to update the mail box
 Star Office start to freeze up my computer.  What's happening is that my
 CPU is being overloaded when Star Office does this updating of the
 e-mail.  I have a K6 AMD 300 MHZ with 64 MB of RAM, I wonder if that's
 not enough for something as resource hungry as Star Office?

Star Office apparently makes a bug in S3 graphics cards to come alive. If
you are not using the S3 graphics card I think the problem might be
hardware if the computer freezes.

I use StarOffice and getting to like it better but I only use it as a
word-processor I have not even looked some features - never will.

 
 Shawn
 
 
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Re: Anybody have the time to help a newbie?

1999-03-31 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello.
 
 Ok.  I have a copy of Debian on disk.  I am attempting to install it on an
 IBM PS/2 386.  When I boot up using the rescue floppy, I can set up to the
 point where it asks me to partition the hard drive.  I select next, and I
 get an error stating  Problem - No hard disk drives could be found.  Make
 sure they are cabled correctly and are turned on before the system is
 started .  You may have to change driver setings when you start the system
 with a command at the boot: prompt, or you may have to load a driver
 that is in a loadable module to solve this problem.  
 I've tried all the other menu selections, and the only other one that
 works is the shell selection.
I am not sure if Linux works on PS/2 computers. Under correction: IBM did
not make the specs available on their microchannel computers? 

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Re: Can apt-get work via a proxy?

1999-03-31 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Mark Phillips wrote:

 Err http://www.au.debian.org stable/main stow 1.3.2-11
   407 Proxy authorization required
 Failed to fetch 
 http://www.au.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/a
 dmin/stow_1.3.2-11.deb
   407 Proxy authorization required
 E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?
 
 
 The problem is due to the fact that my http proxy sometimes asks for
 authorization.  Under netscape it pops up a dialog box asking for my
 name and a password.  I am presuming this capability hasn't been built
 into apt.  Any chance that it will be soon?

You need to specify authorization credentials in advance,

export http_proxy=http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

Read the sources.list man page for information about this.

Jason


Re: Can apt-get work via a proxy?

1999-03-31 Thread Mitch Blevins
In foo.debian-user, you wrote:
  export http_proxy=http://myproxy:port/;
  apt-get foo..
 
 You sent me this reply a while ago.  Up till now I haven't had to use
 it, but today I needed to, but had this problem with it:
 
 
 Err http://www.au.debian.org stable/main stow 1.3.2-11
   407 Proxy authorization required
 Failed to fetch 
 http://www.au.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/a
 dmin/stow_1.3.2-11.deb
   407 Proxy authorization required
 E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?
 
 
 The problem is due to the fact that my http proxy sometimes asks for
 authorization.  Under netscape it pops up a dialog box asking for my
 name and a password.  I am presuming this capability hasn't been built
 into apt.  Any chance that it will be soon?

just use http_proxy=http://mylogin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port/

This is documented in 'man sources.list'

-Mitch


Re: what exactly is a segmentation fault?

1999-03-31 Thread Frank Barknecht
rich hat gesagt: // rich wrote:

 I have just tried my 1st attempt at installing a non-debian package
 (multitrack-2.2.tgz). I followed the instructions...
 
 - place file in /usr/local
 
 - tar xvfz multitrack-2.2.tgz
 
 - cd multitrack-2.2
 
 - make install
 
 When I tried to run the program (by typing multitrack), I get a
 segmentation fault error...

multitrack depends on some old libraries that you will have to
install from the oldlibs directories on your debian mirror or CD. 

You can see what libs are needed with the ldd command:
$ ldd /usr/local/bin/multitrack
libvga.so.1 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libvga.so.1 (0x4000e000)
libvgagl.so.1 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libvgagl.so.1 (0x4004a000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40058000)
libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x400f6000)
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x400ff000)

Another thing that caused multitrack to segfault me was a setting in the
preferences file  ~/.multitrack/prefs

I changed this to read:

#=
# Audio buffers section
#=

o_nr_buffers = 10
i_nr_buffers = 10

Hope this helps.
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Re: Latex -- Plz help

1999-03-31 Thread Mamoun Alissali
Shao Zhang wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I know that I should not fight the layout against latex. But I
 really like to do the following in latex for my resume.
 I tried to use the tabular environment and not very pleased with the
 outcome...
 I want to do something like this in latex:
 
 University Courses:
 First Year
 -Computing 1A(Functional Programming)
 -Computing 1B(Procefure Programming)
 -Higher Mathematics 1A
 -
 
 Work Experence:
 -Programmer
 at
 -Administrator
 at.
 -help desk at the university of
   New South Walesl
and ..
 
 I use the following code in latex to produce the about format:
 
 \begine{supertabular}{ll}
 University Courses: \\
 First Year \\
 -\hspace{0.5cm} Computing 1A \\
 ..
 
 Work Experence: \\
 -\hspace{0.5cm} Programmer at.. \\
 
 I cannot use the tabular with {lll} because I actually want the second
 and the third column overlap. Also, with the above code, latex does not
 automatically break the line for me it writes everything in one
 line

  I didn't really figure out what you intend to do, but I think that
\multicolumn (with {lll}) should solve your problem. Please e-mail me
an example for more details (I'm not subscribed to the list any more for
the moment).

  Mamoun

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debian setup headaches

1999-03-31 Thread Lev Lvovsky

Hello,

OK, in trying to iron out that problem that I was having with not being 
able to boot from my IDE disk instead of my (non-bootable) SCSI disk, I've 
run into a problem in even getting Debian running at all.  I've started 
from scratch, repartitioned, and reformatted through the setup process, and 
made a boot floppy ( did I mention that the setup still doen't let me boot 
from the IDE drive?).  Problem is, and I've done this like 5 times already 
(from scratch), I try booting on the floppy, and I get crc errors.  This is 
using different floppoes every time (and they check out when scanned).  In 
case you're curious, my RAM timings are set to their defaults in BIOS, and 
there's nothign trciky about any of the other settings in BIOS.


To be perfectly honest, I thought Debian would be a thoughtful, and 
competent upgrade from Red Hat, but for something as simple, and probably 
very common as my setup, I cannot get it to work.  Just for kicks, I tried 
RH 5.1 to see if there was anything totally messed up in my setup.  Nope, 
setup just fine, w/o a hitch.  Hopefully someone can steer me in the right 
direction on this, or cheapbytes.com is getting another order, from me, and 
it ain't gonna be for Debian.


advTHANKSance
-lev


Re: dselect internal error

1999-03-31 Thread Remco van de Meent
Pieter-Tjerk de Boer wrote:

[dselect errors]
 Since then, this error message pops up every time I try [I]nstall. I'm
 telling all these details because I suspect that somehow this was not the
 right way to cope with the two changes (newer NFS server, and newer
 'stable' distribution).

As the co-maintainer of that NFS server you're talking about, I know the
contents of it (the directory layout, I mean) didn't change. It only got
moved to a new machine (with a different hostname). So that won't cause your
problem, I'd say.

As you're using a `hamm'-machine at the moment (the previous stable Debian
version), you should start with reading the hamm-to-slink-upgrade
instructions, I think. You can find them here:

 http://www.debian.org/releases/2.1/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html

Second, I suggest using apt when upgrading. Detailed instructions about
using apt to upgrade your system are in the same document. To use apt, you
need to create a /etc/apt/sources.list file as pointed out in that document.
At the University of Twente, this one is proven to work good:

   deb http://ftp.student.utwente.nl/debian slink main contrib non-free
   deb http://ftp.student.utwente.nl/debian-non-US slink non-US
   deb http://ftp.student.utwente.nl/debian dists/slink-proposed-updates/

Note that the last line includes the 'proposed updates' of slink, which are
not yet part of the 'stable' distribution, but I recommend installing them
anyway (security fixes etc).

Good luck!

Regards,
 -Remco


Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-03-31 Thread Bob Wilkinson
- Original Message -
From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Debian users Listserv debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

everything, provided I was willing to sacrifice other things, such as other
hobbies

^^
Sorry, please explain, this is a rather alien concept :-)

Bob
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Re: Bandwidth Control Program

1999-03-31 Thread Javier Castillo
Hola, ¿ qué tal ?

I think that this version is very old, and I don't know if this package has the 
'tc'
utility, which is the
program to manage bandwidths.

PD: Argentina - Holanda ?

Saludos.

Horacio J. Peña wrote:

 ¡Hola!

 With the new kernel 2.2, you can use IPROUTE2. The problem is that isn't a 
 .deb
 package, so you must compile and
 install it, becase it's .tgz.
 There is a .deb, and it's in slink. (it's not the newest version, but it works
 great here...)

 Look at this web:
 http://lrcwww.epfl.ch/linux-diffserv/

  We are probing this package, and i can asure you that is very interesting.

  Saludos.
 From .es? :-)

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Re: ddd and glibc2.1

1999-03-31 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 21:25:30 -0600, Evan Van Dyke wrote:
 Ever since upgrading to glibc2.1 my ddd has been segfaulting upon
 startup... anyone know how this is doing in the 'fix' line?

3.1.3-2, which is built on a potato system, has been installed in the
archive in yesterday's run; it should fix the segfaults.

Ray
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Re: perldap on debian linux

1999-03-31 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 14:24:22 -0700, Gary L. Hennigan wrote:
 Motif isn't free software. You'll have to purchase a copy from someone 

LessTif (http://www.lesstif.org) is an LGPL-ed implementation of Motif; it
is part of Debian since 1996 and is currently used in the Debian packages
for several Motif-using programs, for instance DDD. It's still under
development, but suffices in many cases.

Ray
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RE: star office

1999-03-31 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Shawn Nguyen wrote:

 I am using an S3 graphics card.  I guess I'm out of luck huh?  Thanks for 
 the info though even though I find it kind of strange that that would be 
 the case.  I guess I should do some research to see if there's any kind of 
 fix for this problem.
No you are not out of luck. There are two things you can do. Both of them
easy.

1. Use the SVGA drivers instead of the S3 drivers for X11.

2. (The simplest) Define a variable in your start-up files eg. .tcshrc of
.bashrc.

setenv  SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50 true

or 

export SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50=true

and everything will be fine. How do I know, because they mentioned this
some where in their installation documentation and I too have an S3 Virge
card.
You will love this Star Office its faster and better than 4.0 and now I
feel like I want to buy a copy. With 4.0 I felt like it was so useless I
was glad I did not cough up some money for it, but I am going to buy the
Windows version just so I can get my hand on their manuals.

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Re: RedHat = MS-Linux

1999-03-31 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:
   The issue is not that the Linux kernel would still be available
 as open-source, the problem is what happens when 85-95% of app
 developers are writing their software only for RH.  The 'open
 source' community would not be terribly affected, and would
 certainly continue support of Debian and others, but if RH can
 wrap up the commercial side of the Linux phenomenon, Debian will
 never go much farther than it is now.

If the 'open source' community would not be terribly affected,
why should the growth (go much farther) of Debian be affected?  

As long as RH remains OSS, the worst that can happen is that developers
have to translate everything from RH into Debian.  The fact that RH is
commercial doesn't enter into the equation.

Are you saying that Linux users will take a commercial product over a
free one, just because it is commercial? 

There is the commercial world and the free world; the free world has
been growing in spite of the commercial world, adding one more
commercially supported OS will not change that.  In fact, since the free
world gets most of its users from the commercial world... an increase in
the number of commercial Linux users should result in more converts to
free Linux distributions.

Consider this:
Did the arrival of a commercial Unix stagnate the free unix
distributions (in any way), or did the commercial Unix increase the size
of the unix user base (some of whom switched to the free products
when they realized that unix was ok)? 


later,

Bruce


Apache 1.3.3 rotating logfiles

1999-03-31 Thread Oliver Thuns
Hello!

Most of my Apache logfiles don't rotate. I think all logfiles which are
defined in external file which is included (via Include) in httpd.conf
don't rotate. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Oliver


Re: Bandwidth Control Program

1999-03-31 Thread Horacio J . Peña
¡Hola!

 Hola, ¿ qué tal ?
Muy bien, y tu? :-)

 I think that this version is very old, and 
It's old, but work fine.

 I don't know if this package has the 'tc'
 utility, which is the
 program to manage bandwidths.
Yes. It has it...

 PD: Argentina - Holanda ?
Paso del futbol...

 Saludos.

HoraPe
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Printing:connection to 'localhost' failed - Connection refused

1999-03-31 Thread Johann Spies
Hallo,

I made a mess of my printing.  I have magicfilter installed and everything
went well until I tried to install the printcap published by Wojciech
Zabolotny on this list which he is using to print economy mode on a HP 5L.

I could net get it working and I could not get my old configuration back.
I deleted the /var/spool/lpd/lpfin and /var/spool/lpd/lpdr I created to
install his programs.  Then I rerun magicfilterconfig.  Now, when I try to
print, I get the error message:

connection to 'localhost' failed - Connection refused
job 'cfA576Johann' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed

Can somebody help me urgently please?

Johann

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Re: Failed partition check

1999-03-31 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Robbie, I ran into this also the first time I compiled a 2.2.X kernel.
You need to make sure that IDE/ATA-2 support is compiled into the kernel
(not a module) if you are booting from an IDE hard drive. 

In the kernel config (I use xconfig), that feature is under block
devices.
Tom

Robbie Huffman wrote:
 
 What would cause a 2.2.5 kernel to fail at bootup time when it reaches
 the Parition Check section? It says it can't find the driver for HDA,
 and subsequently panics. This is a standard PC with IDE drive. I have
 the ext2 stuff built into the kernel. What else could I be missing? It
 doesn't make any sense to me.
 
 Thanks much,
 Robbie
 
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Re: Star Office 5 Potato/Glibc2.1??

1999-03-31 Thread Frank Rosendahl
David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:11:40 CST, wrote:
  Hello,
  I was the one who posted the original message for help with this.
  After reading your message, I played around with the soffice wrapper that
  calls soffice.bin.  Here's how I got mine to work...
  
  1) I got the libc deb from slink.
  2) I manually unpacked the archive (ar -x libc???.deb; tar xvfz data.tar.gz)
  3) I edited the soffice wrapper:
  a) In the section where it sets the LD_LIBRARY_PATH (I believe it is the
  *) option in the block that starts with case $sd_platform in), I
  added the path where my glibc2.0 is located to the BEGINNING of the
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/myuser/glibc2.0/lib:$sd_inst/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
  
  b) The last line of the soffice script, I changed as follows:
  exec /home/myuser/glibc2.0/lib/ld-linux.so.2 $sd_inst/bin/$sd_binary $1 
  $2
   $3 $4 $5 $6 $7 $8 $9
  
  It took a *WHILE* (8-15 seconds) for it to load the first time (I run a
  P200 w/128M RAM), but it did load, and seems to function properly.  When the
  program first loads, it gives me a message box that says, Error opening
  document /home/myuser/Office50/bin/soffice.bin: Nonexistent object.  Filter
  not found.  I click the OK button, and it works.
 
 That did it, *thanks!*

Really good job !!! Now my StarOffice works again too !!!

But, do you know, how to supress this mad message ???

CU
Frank


enlightenment/slink .xinitrc

1999-03-31 Thread Vincent Murphy
 could someone who is running gnome on top of enlightenment on top of X
send me their .xinitrc or .xsession please?

 i'm having trouble starting gnome.  here's what i'm using:

#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/X11/enlightenment
exec /usr/bin/gnome-session

 i've tried putting '' on the end of the enlightenment line, but that
brings the Xserver down just after it starts.

TIA..
vinny

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writing c/c++ programs under debian

1999-03-31 Thread Micha Feigin
I am looking to start writing c/c++ programs under debian.
The question is  what utilitys are availble to maintain and write
projects.
also are there any online ducumentation about the options.
I also interested about how to write graphical programs (not neseserily
complicated ones, just to display images) and i was wondering how to do
it under linux/X11.
Also is there some way to get help about functions (something like
clicking on a function in borland c) through some external  program.
How do i get a list of available functions and library's, and what
function is in each library?
Thanx 

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libraries documentations

1999-03-31 Thread Armin Wegner
Hi,

there are a lot of nice libraries in /usr, but where are the documentations for
the c/c++ libraries?

Armin


SMTP Error

1999-03-31 Thread Anthony Landreneau
Greetings, 
After upgrading to the lastest greatest Debian Sendmail my sendmail
doesn't work any longer.  Using Qpopper is not a problem to retrieve the
mail, but when I try to send something out I get an error:

The recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not acceptable to your SMTP
server.  The message is not sendable until the recipient has been changed.

I am assuming that this is a SPAM feature, but for the life of me I 
can't
find the switch that would let me send this stuff out.  And insight to this
would be much appreciated.

Anthony Landreneau
Network Administrator
Infinity Data Systems
New Orleans Louisiana
(504)455-8973


Re: libraries documentations

1999-03-31 Thread Graham Ashton
On Wednesday 31 March, Armin Wegner wrote:

 there are a lot of nice libraries in /usr, but where are the
 documentations for the c/c++ libraries?

humbug% dpkg --list * | grep libc | grep doc
pn  glibc-doc   none (no description available)
un  glibcdocnone (no description available)
un  libc-docnone (no description available)
pn  libc6-doc   none (no description available)

I think they're in 'info' format. you can get them from
http://www.fsf.org/manual/ in other formats.

-- 
Graham


Re: Latex -- Plz help

1999-03-31 Thread Jens Ritter
Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 I know that I should not fight the layout against latex. But I
 really like to do the following in latex for my resume.
 I tried to use the tabular environment and not very pleased with the
 outcome...
 I want to do something like this in latex:
 
 University Courses:
 First Year
 -Computing 1A(Functional Programming)
 -Computing 1B(Procefure Programming)
 -Higher Mathematics 1A
 -

Make it like this:

 col 1col2 col3
   

Use the standard \multicolumn{2}{l}{First Year} for overlapping. 

Use a tabular environment which supports fixed column width and which
does line breaking automatically in the fields.

HTH,

Jens



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Re: Linux on a large disk

1999-03-31 Thread Jens Ritter
Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 

 Nowadays, it is very common to have a disk ranging from 6.4GB to
 10.1GB.  It is also common lots people will install both windoze and
 linux on the same disk. I am just about to install debian on three
 computers for my friends. They all have a large disk with the first
 partition being occupied by windoze. Due to the fact that lilo
 cannot see anything beyond 1024 cylinders, what is the best way to
 deal with this fact?

Start linux by using loadlin (DOS program).
You can setup a menu in DOS/WIN.

HTH,

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Re: ISP Connection

1999-03-31 Thread John Hasler
Joop Stakenborg writes:
 Have a look at your /etc/ppp/options file, uncomment the #debug line ...

He needn't do this.  pppconfig has already put 'debug' in
/etc/ppp/peers/provider.

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Re: ISP Connection

1999-03-31 Thread John Hasler
Peter Ludwig writes:
 ...not everything is connecting correctly, ftp has to be in PASSIVE mode,

That implies that your ISP may be running proxies.

 ...modified the PAP secrets file...

What did you have to do to it?  pppconfig should have set it up for you
assuming that you chose PAP.

Post your /etc/chatscripts/providers, /etc/ppp/peers/providers,
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets, and the relevant parts of /var/log/ppp.log.
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Netscape Installer??

1999-03-31 Thread Ian Keith Setford

I'd like to re-install Netscape but I can no longer find the Debian
installer script/package.  Where did it go?  What are all the other
packages, now in Slink, that mention Netscape?  I just want something to
do what the older installer did:

1) Extract the .tar.gz from /tmp
2) Install in proper place.
3) Update the menu.

Does nothing like this exist anymore or have I not found the right
package?

TIA.

-Ian

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Re: NSDIRSECUG: perldap on debian linux

1999-03-31 Thread David Boreham


Aaron M. Stromas wrote:
 
 i'd like to build perldap on debian linux. as it uses netscape c sdk i
 decided that the fastest way would be to build  it first.
 unfortunately, the configuration failed because it didn't find
 Xm/Xm.h.
 
 is there a debian package with that (motif?) include file? what is it?
 tia,

The C LDAP SDK needs a motif header file ???
This doesn't pass my sanity checker :)


How to open xterm with and a program at once

1999-03-31 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hi,

how do I open xterm with a program? Let's say I want an icon on my desktop
opening mc or mutt. What would the command be to have an xterm with one of
these programs open automatically with xterm?

TIA


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Partitioning help

1999-03-31 Thread Network Admin
I am installing Debian and having problems partitioning the drive properly.
During the bad block scan, it starts counting by '10' and is taking forever.
Do I have my drive partitioned wrong?  Is the drive bad perhaps?  How should
it be set in my bios?


Re: what exactly is a segmentation fault

1999-03-31 Thread rich
 When I tried to run the program (by typing multitrack), I get a
 segmentation fault error... I have heard this phrase before, but do
 not know what it means... can anyone help, or at least point me in the
 right direction?
 

A segmentation fault means that the program made an illegal memory
access.  This can be done in many ways and it is now always the
author's fault, it could be a library problem.

First, run ldd /path/to/my program

Every item in the list should have a left and right side.



Here is what that tells me - it seems like everything is okay?

libvga.so.1 = /usr/lib/libvga.so.1 (0x4000c000)
libvgagl.so.1 = /usr/lib/libvgagl.so.1 (0x40058000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40067000)
libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40105000)
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4010e000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401cc000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40271000)
ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4028a000)



Next, run strace -o output program.  At the bottom of the file called
output you will see some cryptic function calls.  They may offer a
clue.


... bunch of stuff followed by...
geteuid()   = 0
getuid()= 0
getgid()= 0
getegid()   = 0
getpid()= 1201
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

Does this tell me anything?

This also seems similar to an error that I get when I try to run
emusic - nothing happens until I  ^C, then I get the next message...

Gdk-Message: 
** ERROR **: sigint caught

All other sound stuff seems to work...

Any clues?

also

Another thing that caused multitrack to segfault me was a setting in the
preferences file  ~/.multitrack/prefs

I changed this to read:

#=
# Audio buffers section
#=

o_nr_buffers = 10
i_nr_buffers = 10


I don't have this file - I guess because the program hasn't fully run
yet?


Thanks,

Rich


Re: How to open xterm with and a program at once

1999-03-31 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 Hi,
 
 how do I open xterm with a program? Let's say I want an icon on my desktop
 opening mc or mutt. What would the command be to have an xterm with one of
 these programs open automatically with xterm?

xterm -e program

This, by the way, is in the man page of xterm.  If you'd type `man
xterm', and then `/execute', you'd find yourself in the middle of the
description of this option.

HTH,
Eric

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Re: How to open xterm with and a program at once

1999-03-31 Thread Dpk
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote:

   Hi,
   
   how do I open xterm with a program? Let's say I want an icon on my
   desktop opening mc or mutt. What would the command be to have an
   xterm with one of these programs open automatically with xterm?

This will execute mutt, setting the Title bar and the icon name to
'mutt':

xterm -n mutt -T mutt -e mutt 

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How to open xterm with and a program at once

1999-03-31 Thread Frederic Parain
Christian Dysthe writes:
  Hi,
  
  how do I open xterm with a program? Let's say I want an icon on my desktop
  opening mc or mutt. What would the command be to have an xterm with one of
  these programs open automatically with xterm?
  
  TIA

Just read the xterm manuel with the 'man xterm' command, you'll find
the following option of xterm:

[...]
 -e program [arguments ...]
 This option specifies the program (and  its  command
 line  arguments)  to be run in the xterm window.  It
 also sets the window title and icon name to  be  the
 basename of the program being executed if neither -T
 nor -n are given on the command line.  This must  be
 the last option on the command line.   
[...]


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Re: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!!!!!!!!!!

1999-03-31 Thread franco catena
hi,

i got a file and I'd installed it but all the time I tryed to run dpkg -i
kdebase I receive a msg taht tolme that qt1g is not installed.

In the env  command I got :

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/qt/lib
QTDIR=/usr/local/qt
MANPATH=/usr/local/qt/man
PS1=\h:\w\$
USER=root
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Any help
-Mensagem original-
De: Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: rod peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian debian-user@lists.debian.org
Data: Domingo, 7 de Fevereiro de 1999 11:20
Assunto: Re: UGH!!


On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, rod peters wrote:

 I can't find qt1.42 anywhere.  What directory under potato is it in?  Is
that only a partial file name?  Is it in an archive file?  If I wasn't
wearin' my good socks I'd smack my computer up side the head with my wiffle
bat.  I'm gettin kinda desperate.  Please, help me out.  Just give me the
last known url for this file.  In the meantime, I will continue my endless
search.

It's not in main due to the licence. It's in non-free. Try the libs
directory. You may also be interested in the doc and dev packages which
are both in non-free/devel for some reason.

Thanks. Syrus.

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Re: How to open xterm with and a program at once

1999-03-31 Thread Ian Keith Setford

Try $xterm -e mutt 

That should do it.  Also try man xterm for a plethora of other options you
can give to the xterm program.  Might also want to take a look a RXVT.

BTW, the command above is just a beginning, if you need a login shell,
different colors, or title you should get thse parameters from the man
page.

HTH

-Ian

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote:

 how do I open xterm with a program? Let's say I want an icon on my desktop
 opening mc or mutt. What would the command be to have an xterm with one of
 these programs open automatically with xterm?

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Re: Printing:connection to 'localhost' failed - Connection refused

1999-03-31 Thread Ulrik Haugen
* Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 connection to 'localhost' failed - Connection refused
 job 'cfA576Johann' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed

I had the same problem, I used the lprng package. This package I understand
has more features for use in networks, however if you only use one local
printer you're better off with the lpr package witch is easier to setup.
I tried for a couple of weeks to get lprng to work and then gave up.
As soon as I had installed lpr instead my printer began working.

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/etc/lynx.cfg - ~/.lynxrc

1999-03-31 Thread homega
Hi,

how can I have lynx to use each home user's configuration file instead of
/etc/lynx.cfg?  I mean to default to:

$ lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc

TIA

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NAG F95 compiler is broken after upgrade.

1999-03-31 Thread Karsten Bolding
I just ran dselect on my laptop taking both stable and unstable and
realized that the NAG F95 compiler does not work anymore. Compilation
works but linking fails:

f95 -o model  main.o initialise.o timeloop.o cleanup.o \
domain/domain.o

/usr/local/lib/NAGWare/libf95.so: undefined reference to `_fxstat'
/usr/local/lib/NAGWare/libf95.so: undefined reference to `__setfpucw'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [model] Error 1

I guess it is related to the updated gcc compiler..

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Kernel Panic

1999-03-31 Thread lanceh
I had my system hang last night while running a statistical process.  I used 
Ctrl-Alt-Delete to 
reboot.  Now I get a kernel panic.

UMSDOS: msdos_read_super failed, mount aborted ...

HPFS: hpfs_read_super: Not HPFS ...

Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05

Does 03:05 mean 3rd harddisk, 5th partition?  Linux is on Harddisk 1, partition 
05.

Other things I have tried.

Booting from floppy, same error.

I have OS2 on my system as well. I dualboot to DOS and try the Debian install 
CD, but I get

boot from dos install
  ran out of input data   ---system halted

When I was compiling a kernel before I was able to use this to reset lilo but 
now it won't
work.


I have ext2-os2 so I should be able to read my linux partitions from OS2, but I 
am not able to
read the Linux partition.


Any suggestions on how to solve this problem?



Re: Star Office 5 Potato/Glibc2.1??

1999-03-31 Thread Ryan Losh
Hello:
Well, now that we've all got Star Office 5.0 running on the latest
cutting-edge potato systems, can anyone print from it??  When I try, I get
the following messages:


sh: /home/myuser/Office50/glibc2/libdl.so.2: no version information available 
(required by sh)
sh: /home/myuser/Office50/glibc2/libdl.so.2: no version information available 
(required by sh)
sh: /home/myuser/Office50/glibc2/libc.so.6: no version information available 
(required by sh)
sh: /home/myuser/Office50/glibc2/libc.so.6: no version information available 
(required by sh)
sh: /home/myuser/Office50/glibc2/libc.so.6: no version information available 
(required by /lib/libreadline.so.2)
sh: /home/myuser/Office50/glibc2/libc.so.6: no version information available 
(required by /lib/libreadline.so.2)
sh: /home/myuser/Office50/glibc2/libc.so.6: no version information available 
(required by /lib/libncurses.so.4)
sh: /home/myuser/Office50/glibc2/libc.so.6: no version information available 
(required by /lib/libncurses.so.4)
sh: error in loading shared libraries: /home/myuser/Office50/glibc2/libc.so.6: 
undefined symbol: _dl_global_scope_end


Anyone else run into this???  If so, how do we fix it???

Ryan
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Re: Anybody have the time to help a newbie?

1999-03-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Daniel Mashao wrote:

 : On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 : 
 :  Hello.
 :  
 :  Ok.  I have a copy of Debian on disk.  I am attempting to install it on an
 :  IBM PS/2 386.  When I boot up using the rescue floppy, I can set up to the
 :  point where it asks me to partition the hard drive.  I select next, and I
 :  get an error stating  Problem - No hard disk drives could be found.  Make
 :  sure they are cabled correctly and are turned on before the system is
 :  started .  You may have to change driver setings when you start the system
 :  with a command at the boot: prompt, or you may have to load a driver
 :  that is in a loadable module to solve this problem.  
 :  I've tried all the other menu selections, and the only other one that
 :  works is the shell selection.
 : I am not sure if Linux works on PS/2 computers. Under correction: IBM did
 : not make the specs available on their microchannel computers? 

It works fine, though the token ring drivers are a bit dodgy.  I've
successfully installed linux on a model 80, 90, and 53.

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problem with xwindow

1999-03-31 Thread khadija.boumahdi
hi,
when i try to execute startx; following message of errors occured:
ld.so failed: can't find shared library libXmu.so.6.0; but ythis file
exist in /usr/X11R6/lib what i can do?


about xwindow

1999-03-31 Thread khadija.boumahdi
i try to excute startx, but following errors occured:
ld.so failed: can't find shared library libXmu.so.6.0
but this file exist in /usr/X11R6/lib 
what can i do please??


Re: Kernel Panic

1999-03-31 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had my system hang last night while running a statistical process.  I used 
 Ctrl-Alt-Delete to
 reboot.  Now I get a kernel panic.

 UMSDOS: msdos_read_super failed, mount aborted ...

 HPFS: hpfs_read_super: Not HPFS ...

 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05

 Does 03:05 mean 3rd harddisk, 5th partition?  Linux is on Harddisk 1, 
 partition 05.

03:05 means the device with major number 3, minor number 5. This is in fact 
/dev/hda5.

 Other things I have tried.

 Booting from floppy, same error.

 I have OS2 on my system as well. I dualboot to DOS and try the Debian install 
 CD, but I get

 boot from dos install
   ran out of input data   ---system halted

 When I was compiling a kernel before I was able to use this to reset lilo but 
 now it won't
 work.

 I have ext2-os2 so I should be able to read my linux partitions from OS2, but 
 I am not able to
 read the Linux partition.

 Any suggestions on how to solve this problem?

Boot the rescue disk. After you get to the menus go down all the way to the 
option to exit to a
shell. At the shell prompt run: 'e2fsck /dev/hda5' to fix the file system.

Good luck!

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RE: How to open xterm with and a program at once

1999-03-31 Thread Alexandre DEVAURE
Hello
To start a program with an xterm, you need to use the -e option:
xterm -e program name.
I am sorry my PC at office run m$ os but it's changing : our system 
administrator want to use Linux boxes first to read mail and then as file 
server.

Alexandre Devaure

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A : debian-user
Objet : How to open xterm with and a program at once

Hi,

how do I open xterm with a program? Let's say I want an icon on my desktop
opening mc or mutt. What would the command be to have an xterm with one of
these programs open automatically with xterm?

TIA


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dselect.... missing the obvious?

1999-03-31 Thread Chris Brown
Hello again and thanks for all the help this debian-newbie is getting!

I've done several (custom) installs of slink using dselect, and each 
time I waste a bunch of time searching for certain packages I 
want  for instance ntp, sendmail, snmp, pine, joe

I am getting a little more familiar with the organization of the 
packages but it seems I must be doing it the difficult way, manually 
searching through the entire list!

I know about the re-order list options, but there must be a way to 
search the package list for a keyword, package name or catagory, 
how do I do this?

Second, once I have a favorite base system, can I integrate that 
into the dselect program for future installs?

TIA,
Chris



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Re: Netscape Installer??

1999-03-31 Thread Richard Harran
As I understand it, Netscape have changed their licencing rules, to the
effect that Debian can now distribute Netscape binaries.  Thus you no
longer have to get the binary from netscape and then use the installer,
you just need the correct packages.  I think the packages you want are:
netscape-base-4 and
netscape-base-4? (depending on version).
If you want to use the tarball + installer, the installer is still in
stable (under contrib/web, not non-free/web) as:
netscape3_version.deb or
netscape3_version.deb
depending on which tarball you have.
HTH 
Rich

Ian Keith Setford wrote:
 
 I'd like to re-install Netscape but I can no longer find the Debian
 installer script/package.  Where did it go?  What are all the other
 packages, now in Slink, that mention Netscape?  I just want something to
 do what the older installer did:
 
 1) Extract the .tar.gz from /tmp
 2) Install in proper place.
 3) Update the menu.
 
 Does nothing like this exist anymore or have I not found the right
 package?
 
 TIA.
 
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Re: dselect.... missing the obvious?

1999-03-31 Thread Kevin Lee
Chris,

When you choose option number 2 in dselect, press the space bar to clear
the help screen and then press the slash key (/).  This will put you in a
search mode.  Just type in the name of the package you wish to install at
the Search for ? prompt.

At 11:01 AM 3/31/99 -0500, you wrote:
Hello again and thanks for all the help this debian-newbie is getting!

I've done several (custom) installs of slink using dselect, and each 
time I waste a bunch of time searching for certain packages I 
want  for instance ntp, sendmail, snmp, pine, joe

I am getting a little more familiar with the organization of the 
packages but it seems I must be doing it the difficult way, manually 
searching through the entire list!

I know about the re-order list options, but there must be a way to 
search the package list for a keyword, package name or catagory, 
how do I do this?

Second, once I have a favorite base system, can I integrate that 
into the dselect program for future installs?

TIA,
Chris



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