sobre la relase del 2.1
BUENOS DIAS!!! hace poco, lei un mail donde comentaba que los cambios entre relases de debian venian indicados en un fichero Changelog , asi que mosqueado, ( me acabo de bajar las cuatro imagenes de CD de un mirror ) conecto y miro el fichero. El cambio es uno, y lo que yo quisiera saber es si se saco la relase solo por el cambio de un paquete ( aunque ya se que es un paquete masomenos importante con respecto a la seguridad y en eso debian pone mucho empeño ), nose, me parecio raro. ( da demasiado trabajo para mi gusto por un solo fichero ). Aparte de eso, en los CD viene directorios del contrib ¿Es el contrib entero? o solo algunos paquetes? La otra cuestion es ¿exactamente que es o para que vale el directorio de proposed-updates Gracias por el interes. -- File win.com not found A(bort), F(ail), C(ongratulate)? grettings_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] REGISTER of __ _| |___ __ _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiNUX Saludos/ _` | / -_) _` | http://pagina.de/alea USER de \__,_|_\___\__,_| ICQ#17770744 #66734
Re: smail 3.2
El Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 01:18:39AM +0200, Juanjo Martinez escribió: Hola a todos/as: Veamos si llega mi primer correo a la lista con mutt. Bueno lo que quiero comentaros es que smail se empeña en mandar el correo cada 20 minutos, pero lo que yo quiero es que lo encole hasta que hasta que haga runq, para lo cual he cambiado el valor de la variable FLAGS del /etc/init.d/smail, que estaba como -bd -q10m por -bd -q1w, pero no he conseguido nada, sigue haciéndolo cada 20 minutos, lo cual no me cuadraba antes ni ahora tampoco. ¿Cómo puedo solucionar esto? Vaya, pues creo que he encontrado al 'culpable', pero no estoy seguro de como solucionarlo. En /var/spool/crontabs/mail hay una linea tal que: 3,23,43 * * * * runq en fin, que esta claro, pero ese fichero advierte que no se edite a mano sino que se edite el 'master' y se reinstale... :-?... pero que se reinstale ¿el que? ¿smail? No lo entiendo. Gracias de nuevo. -- Salut!! # Juanjo Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/8904 [Por favor quita 'NOSPAM' para responder] [Please remove 'NOSPAM' to reply] # Debian GNU Linux 2.0 [2.0.34]Linux Registered User #68887 #
Network unreachable
Tengo la debian 2.0 y el kernel 2.2.1 y actualicé todos los paquetes necesarios. El kernel por ahora va bien, pero el otro día arranqué con el kernel 2.0.36 y resulta que cuando entro en el slrn me sale Network unreachable. Intento con el telnet comprobar si se puede conectar a algún puerto, y resulta que el telnet ¡me ha desaparecido! Además tampoco me va el sonido. ¿Es que la nueva versión de los modutils no es compatible con los anteriores kernels? Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft http://rvmsoft.findhere.com
problema con perl, creo
cuando ejecuto muchos 'programillas' en plan configuracion (el adduser es uno de ellos), me sale siempre este mensaje de error: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = ES, LC_CTYPE = ISO_8859_1, LANG = ES ¨ A que se debe y como puedo solucionarlo ? :? /The SoNiC RaVeR! | ICQ: 24460640 | 2:348/105.1980/
Re: Quitar xdm del arranque
La forma mas directa es cambiar el nivel de ejecucion del Sistema. Los diferentes niveles los puedes encontrar listados en el /etc/inittab; por lo que veo debes estar en el nivel 5 (X11), y para lo que necesitas deberas cambiarte al nivel 3 (modo multiusuario sin X11 automatico). Para hacer esto, ejecuta el comando init 3 desde el root. Ramon. --- Ing. Ramón Solano Barajas | Universidad de Colima Laboratorio de Percepción Remota| Aptdo. Postal # 44 Centro Universitario de Investigaciones | Tel. (331) 3 1165 en Ciencias del Ambiente| Fax (331) 3 0709 correo-e. : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Colima, Col. México --- On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Francisco Callejo wrote: On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 10:43:50AM +, Ubaldo Fernández Covelo wrote: He instalado Debian 2.1 y todo bien. Ejecuté xdm para probar y desde entonces el sistema me arranca en modo gráfico. Quiero arrancar en modo texto y pasar a la X cuando lo necesite nada más. ¿Cómo quito el xdm del arranque? He visto el /etc/profile y ahí no está, los rc.?? los tengo iguales que otra instalación que arranca en modo texto. Una ayuda por favor. En Debian 2.1, si instalas xdm arranca siempre con éste. Si no lo quieres, tienes dos opciones: a) Eliminar el paquete con dpkg --remove o dpkg --purge. b) Borrar el enlace S99xdm del directorio /etc/rc2.d (en Debian, el nivel de arranque suele ser el 2). De este modo, arrancará normalmente en modo texto. Si quieres que arranque con xdm, al arrancar escribe linux 3 cuando aparezca LILO boot: Un saludo, -- Francisco Callejo Giménez Bornos, Cádiz, España [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usuarios.bitmailer.com/fcallejo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
hellllpppppp 2
bueno hola a todos una vez mas, gracias a los que me explicaron como funciona esto y unas preguntatitas mas.. consegui en una revista un redhat, ya se que esta es la lista de otra distribucion pero, luego de instalarlo se puede actualizar al debian??? donde puedo conseguir copias en ARGENTINA respecto al hardware? tengo una placa de audio trident, una de vireo trident no se que 2000, una copatible 200 mmx, un modem US robottcs, y una lectora de cd pienner Todo esto es compatible?? y la ultimala mas jodida Quien me puede decir donde conseguir partition magic 4.0? y todavia no discuto cosas tecnicas jodidas como Uds. AHI SI ME VOY A PONER PREGUNTON :) espero respuestas ansioso alfredo goñi
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
On 3 Apr 1999, Stefan Nobis wrote: I get from time to time mails from friends and even from people i don't know with attachments some times greater than 1MB. And i'm always very angry about it, cause i do pay for my telphone connection (4 minutes costs me 12 german Pfennige, about 0,07US$). And none of these persons asked me, if i'm interested in the picture, large text, animation or the like. And never asked i someone of these to send me that thing. I talked to much other users and i often get excatly that complaint. And this has nothing to do with mailinglists. But if you are so happy about big emails, what about sending you the X11 sources? Without asking you about sending it. Will you be happy about that? The question is: What is big and what is too big? Everybody i can think of will get angry if i send him/her the X11 sources without being asked to do so. So X11 sources are clearly too big. What about a 50MB animation? What about a 5MB picture? What about a 100KB text? Do you get the point? To send emails bigger than about 40-80KB without being asked to do so and without asking the recipient is not very nice and i would call it an offence. Even though I have flat-rate telephone service, I also get upset with large emails. Since I use POP3 to retrieve my mail from my ISP, I found that using the limit parameter in my .fetchmailrc is a good way to keep those which are ridiculously long from being fetched. When I see that some have been kept back because of this I telnet into the ISP and check the mail in question. If I want it, I save the message into a file and ftp it; otherwise I delete the message. I have found this method quite useful. A few times I have gone over the ISP's quota on disk usage, but so far I haven't incurred any charges. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 10:43:00AM +0200, Stefan Nobis wrote: But if you are so happy about big emails, what about sending you the X11 sources? Without asking you about sending it. Will you be happy about that? If it is solicited, just fine. What is your point? I never claimed unsolicited attachments were acceptable, only that solicited ones of any size should work. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Newbie question on dselect
Hello, I just successfully installed slink 2.1 on a sparc machine. When I attempted to use dselect to install some other packages off the net, I ran into the following problem. Get http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages Get http://http.non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Packages Error http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages Couldn't lookup host http.us.debian.org Error http://http.non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Packages Couldn't lookup host http.non-us.debian.org . . . update available list script returned error exit status 1 Press RETURN to continue. I believe the errors in the above has to do with the fact that the machine is behind a firewall. How do set the proxy server information in the system. What program or tool is available for this? Thanks in advance. -Rick
Re: vi in Debian (slink)
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 06:18:57PM -, Pollywog wrote: vi is acting weird, and I just discovered that vi on my system is not really vim. Isn't vi really just a symlink to vim on most systems? vim works well, but vi is weird. It acts buggy. vi could be nvi, elvis, or vim, or another VI if we had one. I use nvi here and I've never found it to be buggy. Most likely you're used to the way vim does things. nvi is much more authentic. I've never seen an advantage to using vim personally. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: GNOME query
HM == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HM Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a nice panel. I have a /usr7doc/gnome dir with some info. README.Debian says: My .xsession file looks something like this: xsetroot -solid slategrey xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults fvwm2 exec /usr/bin/gnome-session HM Hamish (diehard fvwm2 user) You can continue useing it. See http://www.internet-treff.uni-koeln.de/~martin/shot.jpg for my fvwm2 desktop using gnome. Although I am not using gnome all the time. I noticed that moving between virtual desks (something I do quite often and fast) takes more time than without the panel running. Especially, if there are several overlapping windows. Ciao, Martin
Re: Newbie question on dselect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Tan) writes: I just successfully installed slink 2.1 on a sparc machine. When I attempted to use dselect to install some other packages off the net, I ran into the following problem. Get http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages Get http://http.non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Packages Error http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages Couldn't lookup host http.us.debian.org Error http://http.non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Packages Couldn't lookup host http.non-us.debian.org I believe the errors in the above has to do with the fact that the machine is behind a firewall. Um, no, the errors are because it can't resolve the host names. You have to have a working DNS configuration (man resolv.conf). Alternatively, try IP numbers but I'm not sure if that will work or not. How do set the proxy server information in the system. What program or tool is available for this? Well, this depends on your backend. I deduce you are using apt. In that case, set the 'http_proxy' variable. I do: export http_proxy=http://burrito:3128/ dselect -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/
Help with /etc/printcap
I'm having problems getting my remote printing to work when I use true type fonts. When i was on the #debian irc channel, someone suggested that I process the print job to raw printer data, and then send it to the printer. However, I have no idea how to do this. Could someone please help me setup the proper printcap file to do this? TIA, chris P.S. Here is my current /etc/printcap which is working fone for all other things: lp|hpdj672c|HP Deskjet 672C:\ :lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hpdj672c:\ :rm=192.168.1.1:\ :rp=hpdj672c:\ :sh:
Re: lossless partitioning
I believe FIPS works very well with lossless partitioning. I'm very much a newbie (is that close to dumb end-user?) but I was able to partition a hard drive for Linux and swap without losing my DOS partition. Carl Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME query
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:07:49 -0800 (PST), Gary Singleton wrote: Does icewm-gnome offer anything that icewm doesn't? I like icewm primarily for it's simplicity and apparent low resource usage. Is the gnome version just built using the gnome libraries? Exactly. There really isn't much change at all. I run icewm on my laptop and icewm-gnome on my main machine. No real difference in look or feel. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNwbcsHpf7K2LbpnFEQL9EQCfZHRmTPtOGepi6qLcP9gN2YAoimsAn04W DOFMZK7DHlqLLRCPUBvPwS7C =9W/a -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: GNOME query
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0500 (EST), William R Pentney wrote: I just installed GNOME and use it with fvwm2, and it seems to work nicely, but I haven't tried it with others yet. Am I missing out on anything? Is this a particularly bad choice? Well, AFAIK fvwm2 isn't compiled for use with Gnome. It would be like installing KDE and not using KWM. It'll work, just not with all the bells and whistles. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNwbc7Xpf7K2LbpnFEQLi0gCdFV3U4CtVqAWgjfv1KdVXNA2V2EMAoIcR uKF2fWIQm1qsAVE+r2eTLPOc =MhYl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: fs type iso9660 not supported by kernel
I had the same problem. I couldn't get a viable solutions so the way I solved the problem (I cheated): I remembered that I had a RedHat installation on another patition. I mounted that partition, copied the isofs.o file into my debian partition into /lib/modules/version/fs (or something like that) edited modules.dep and ran modprobe isofs. That's it. Deselect could load the cd's just fine. If you aren't as fortunate to have another linux partition to get the file put it on a floppy and load it during your install. Just an idea. Good luck! marlon On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Johann Spies wrote: I am trying to install hamm and get this message from dselect or when I want to mount the cdrom. I did install a cdrom as a device and did not see iso9660 as an option amongst the filesystems during the installation process. Can somebody help me please? It is not the first time I install Linux from this CD, but it is the first time I get this error. Johann. -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.I Corinthians 10:13 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: lossless partitioning
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 09:17:09PM -0600, Carl Wiebe wrote: I believe FIPS works very well with lossless partitioning. I'm very much a newbie (is that close to dumb end-user?) but I was able to partition a hard drive for Linux and swap without losing my DOS partition. I've used it on multiple ocasions, including ones with stupid dos extenders (which wouldn't run linux of the era, however), and fat32 partitions without any problems. However, it claims to be not completly safe. OTOH, I've never heard tail of it dieing. Use your own judgement. -=- James Mastros
Re: GNOME query
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 07:30:53PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0500 (EST), William R Pentney wrote: Well, AFAIK fvwm2 isn't compiled for use with Gnome. It would be like installing KDE and not using KWM. It'll work, just not with all the bells and whistles. In puticular, notably: 1) Things will maximize over the panel. 2) Things won't appear in the gnome-pager applet (taskbar like). 3) Things will get icons (assuming that fvwm2 uses icons, I wouldn't know) even if you use gnome-pager. -=- James Mastros
Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel
Somthing tells me that perhaps you don't have soundcore? (What, I couldn't say, as I don't have the kernel sources about.) Do you have a /proc/sound? Hmm, I'm not sure what a soundcore is. But I do not have a /proc/sound. -- Regards, | REDMOND, WA (API) --- MICROSOFT (MSFT) announced today . | the the official release date for the new operating Randy | system Windows 2000 will be delayed until the second | quarter of 1901 due to year 2000 problems.
Re: netscape ignore's clicks
That usually happens when a page is 'busy' (or has hanged, or is dowloading slow, etc). I've noticed that the problem is much worse with 4.51 than 4.08. I also think that 4.08 is more stable than 4.51, and it isn't quite as bad with hogging memory. It seems to me that 4.51 has a pretty sever memory leak, as it will continue to consume memory on my machine (the most I've seen it eat is 87MB !), and will not let ANY of it go until the whole process is terminated. With 4.08 the problem isn't as bad. It seems to ramp up to 30-50MB pretty quick, but doesn't seem to go above that, and will even occasionally release some of it. Sean John Leget wrote: Dang , id hoped this problem would dissapear, guess not. Netscape v4.51 ( 4.5 prior) on 2.2.5 , potato, windowmaker I occasionally find that netscape gets 'testy' and refuses to do anything about my clicking on links exept mark them as followed, it wont go anywhere unless i select to open the link in a new window. Gr. Sheesh its also a memory hog for sure. :) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Compassion -- that's the one things no machine ever had. Maybe it's the one thing that keeps men ahead of them. -- McCoy, The Ultimate Computer, stardate 4731.3
Re: GNOME query
On 4 Apr 1999, Martin Bialasinski wrote: My .xsession file looks something like this: xsetroot -solid slategrey xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults fvwm2 exec /usr/bin/gnome-session Is there anything in gnome besides the gnome pager that doesn't work with the (non gnome-compliant) fvwm2 window manager? I saw a link to fvwm2gnome on the themes.org site, but the link didn't work. Is there such a project? ...RickM...
Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 11:43:41PM -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: Somthing tells me that perhaps you don't have soundcore? (What, I couldn't say, as I don't have the kernel sources about.) Do you have a /proc/sound? Hmm, I'm not sure what a soundcore is. But I do not have a /proc/sound. That suguests to me that somthing is deeply wrong with sound. What kernel is this, exactly (if it really is a 2.1, you should probably upgrade)? Are you using compiled-in drivers, or modules? Does your .config file have a line that says CONFIG_SOUND=m (or 'y', as approprate)? -=- James Mastros
Re: Help Installing Linux
Andrei Ivanov wrote: As a wild guess, how do you enter the path where your linux kernel image is? Hope it's not C:\Debian or whatever like that. You have to use block devices, such as /dev/hda(b,c,d) You can get information on partitioning from fdisk. For example, if C is /dev/hda1, then your C:\Debian becomes /dev/hda1/Debian Andrew --- Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux. I believe he's using the install.bat file that has a line like loadlin linux /dev/ram initrd=root.bin. Bala, is this correct? Make sure you're not at the C:\ prompt and entering C:\Debian\Install; you need to actually be in the C:\debian directory. Also, try entering the line manually instead of running install.bat. Also, I've seen something similar to this when trying to run install.bat after exitting Win95 with the Start/Shutdown/Restart in MS-DOS Mode option. Try rebooting the PC and when you see Starting Windows 95, press the F8 key and then select Safe Mode Command Prompt Only. Then switch to the C:\Debian directory and run install.bat.
Re: Newbie question on dselect
On 04-Apr-99 Adam Di Carlo wrote: Um, no, the errors are because it can't resolve the host names. You have to have a working DNS configuration (man resolv.conf). Alternatively, try IP numbers but I'm not sure if that will work or not. How do set the proxy server information in the system. What program or tool is available for this? Well, this depends on your backend. I deduce you are using apt. In that case, set the 'http_proxy' variable. I do: export http_proxy=http://burrito:3128/ dselect Can I use any other port for this? Squid is using port 3128 here. -- Andrew [PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37]
Re: RedHat = MS-Linux
John Hasler wrote: Ed Cogburn writes: For the issue of a software package that needs to get a daemon running at bootup, I don't think the problem is trivial. The layout and use of the /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d dirs is (I've read) far from compatible between RH and Deb. How about an install-rc tool? It would be essentially a generalization of update-rc.d. You would pass it a script and some parameters and it would install the script appropriately for the distribution. A) I'll remind everyone that, as I said earlier, I have no recent experience with RH, specifically no understanding of RH's bootup (init) sequence, and how it differs from Deb's init.d/rc*.d setup. Having said that ... If agreeing to a compromise between RH and Deb and other dists is possible, then the same system should be used. Note that the LSB says: Scripts used as part of the package install and uninstall may only use commands and interfaces that are specified by the LSB. So the LSB will define what system to use here. If a compromise is not possible, then an 'install-rc' tool *accepted by all dists* would be the only other choice, and it would essentially have to know the details about every dist that conforms to the LSB. Writing (and maintaining) the thing could be real hairy. Another bit of news: RPM is still listed as the package management tool for the LSB, which makes me wonder why we continue to develop dpkg. I wonder if the developers intend to support both? Or has Debian not officially accepted this decision? -- Ed C.
Confused about Cable modem/ NIC setup
Hi all: I had problems with the dhcp client that comes with slink, so I installed the version that's in potato. It installed okay, but it prompted me for a network device from a list that it apparently found. Unfortunately, it found none. I have a Linksys card and I've been to their site and followed instructions on making the latest version of their tulip driver available when I compile the kernel. I compiled my kernel, and I get this message about my nic when I rebooted: tulip.c:v0.90 10/20/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] eth0: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC at 0xe800, 00 a0 cc 22 71 e4, IRQ 12. eth0: MII transceiver #1 config 3100 status 7829 advertising 01e1. Is this right? Is my card being recognized? It looks similar to the example in the Cable-Modem-mini-HOWTO. However, ifconfig doesn't show eth0, I just get lo and ppp0 (right now). The linksys site mentions to do a cat /proc/pci, so I did and it looks like: PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Lite-on LNE100TX (rev 32). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 12. Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xe800. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xea00. for my NIC. The Linksys website mentions that if the output of the cat /proc/pci looks like this: Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Lite-on LNE100TX (rev 32). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. No bursts. I/O at 0x0. then my BIOS is configured wrong. Can anyone help me/point me in the right direction? I've read the Cable-Modem-mini-HOWTO, the Ethernet-HOWTO, and a couple other docs written by people at my local LUG, but they use redhat and do everything from the control panel and network configuration tools that redhat has. TIA -- __ _ Mark Wagnon Debian GNU/ -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
New Building Voice/Data Recommendations
I will soon be moving into a 32' x 58' 'manufactured' house. It is a 3 bedroom, with 1 room being 'the computer room'. I have several questions concerning the wiring for phone and networking. Using cat 5 cable, should I run 1 run for voice, and 1 for data? Or can I use 4 5 for the voice. I want to run 10/100. Should this/these be in pvc or metal conduit? Should the cat 5 be of shielded variety? Should the phone connection demark be in the same area as the data termination points? I would really like to have atleast 2 walls in each room of the house covered for voice and data. Cost is of some concern, but my employeer will cover the cost of the cable. Between the house and the office (300ft) we have an electrical line in pvc in a ditch. The will be wiring me up to work, and need to know if I: need to look at fiber or is it fibre? ;) Does a cat 5 or enhanced cat 5 cable need to be shielded and in a seperate conduit? Thanx for any ideas/opinions/recommendations, Walter L. Preuninger II
Re: vi in Debian (slink)
On 04-Apr-1999, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 06:18:57PM -, Pollywog wrote:
vi is acting weird, and I just discovered that vi on my system is not really
vim. Isn't vi really just a symlink to vim on most systems?
vim works well, but vi is weird. It acts buggy.
vi could be nvi, elvis, or vim, or another VI if we had one.
I use nvi here and I've never found it to be buggy. Most likely you're
used to the way vim does things. nvi is much more authentic. I've never
seen an advantage to using vim personally.
Major Advantages to using vim over nvi:
- multiple undo
- region select
- recordable macros
- :command history
- filename completion
- multiple buffers/split windows
- identifier completion (^P, ^N).
- intelligent reformatting (Q)
- syntax highlighting
- good online help
I believe vim is responsible for a large productivity increase over vi,
and has further pushed back any need to learn emacs. I haven't yet any
vi user who hasn't been converted after being shown a few major vim
conveniences.
--
The quantum sort:
while (!sorted) { do_nothing(); }
Tyson Dowd [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tyse.net/
Installing the Latest Version of Debian from a DOS partition
What am I doing wrong ? I tried to install Debian (latest, March 99) from a DOS partition without sucess. The messages I get on my screen are : uncompressing Linux ran out of input data --- system halted. The system does hang-up. I am not a Debian-user but would like to become one if I can figure out what I am doing wrong. Pls. reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] eek
Re: Installing the Latest Version of Debian from a DOS partition
On Sun, Apr 04, 1999 at 04:11:01AM -0400, Egwu Kalu wrote: uncompressing Linux ran out of input data --- system halted. It looks like the kernel you downloaded (into a file named linux, I belive) didn't quite make it. Try downloading the file again. -=- James Mastros
vmware/kernel
while doing a make menuconfig i get : There seems to be a problem with the lxdialog companion utility which is built prior to running Menuconfig. Usually this is an indicator that you have upgraded/downgraded your ncurses libraries and did not remove the old ncurses header file(s) in /usr/include or /usr/include/ncurses. It is VERY important that you have only one set of ncurses header files and that those files are properly version matched to the ncurses libraries installed on your machine. You may also need to rebuild lxdialog. This can be done by moving to the /usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog directory and issuing the make clean all command. can anyone help please? and also for vmware while a ./install.pl i get : Whoa, something is wrong with the system include files on your machine! The file linux/version.h is for a 2.2.1 Linux system but you are running a 2.2.5 kernel. This will not work for building the VMware device drivers; you must have include files that match the version of your operating system. Any help would be appreciated thnx
vmware/kernel
-- while doing a make menuconfig i get : There seems to be a problem with the lxdialog companion utility which is built prior to running Menuconfig. Usually this is an indicator that you have upgraded/downgraded your ncurses libraries and did not remove the old ncurses header file(s) in /usr/include or /usr/include/ncurses. It is VERY important that you have only one set of ncurses header files and that those files are properly version matched to the ncurses libraries installed on your machine. You may also need to rebuild lxdialog. This can be done by moving to the /usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog directory and issuing the make clean all command. can anyone help please? and also for vmware while a ./install.pl i get : Whoa, something is wrong with the system include files on your machine! The file linux/version.h is for a 2.2.1 Linux system but you are running a 2.2.5 kernel. This will not work for building the VMware device drivers; you must have include files that match the version of your operating system. Any help would be appreciated thnx
Linux installation help
I have an old CD of debian 1.3 and am trying to install packages from there. I just installed debian 2.1 after being downloaded from the internet. This was my first install but everything seemed allright. The problem is it seems the system (linux) doesn't recognize my CD drive, I think because it is a Sony DVD drive. Can I copy the files from the cd to my harddisk and install everything from there ??? Thanx in advance, Cyril Heck
SiS6326 chip and XFree86
Hello: My PC is running slink. I just have installed a SiS6326 AGP video card and I don't know how can I to configure X-Window. I have intented with XF86_SVGA server but only I get 320x200 resolution and Ctrl-Alt-+, Ctrl-Alt-- dont't work. Can somebody help me?. Thanks. Best regards. Antonio - Antonio Ullan de Celis Departamento de Matemáticas Universidad de Extremadura. Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
irc help
Hi, I am using Zircon IRC to try to hook up to irc.debian.org but I can't seem to get there. Is there something special that I need to do in order to open the link to irc.debian.org? Does it work? Shawn
TR: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian
Syrus and Brian (and whoever else), I checked the page Brian recommended, and apparently ATI seem to have changed policy and there may soon be support for ATI-TV... -Message d'origine- De: Syrus Nemat-Nasser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: vendredi 2 avril 1999 13:16 À: David Nelson Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Objet: RE: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, David Nelson wrote: Do you reckon it would work with my ATI-TV card? And will xawtv support PAL/SECAM, etc? When I was looking at TV cards, the ATI was not supported, and there were no plans to support it due to NDA requirements, I believe. PAL/SECAM is an option for xawtv, so I think the answer is yes to the second question. I would suggest looking at the bttv web page to see if there is any mention of the ATI--you probably mean the All-in-wonder right? http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~rjkm/linux/bttv.html [bttv] http://roadrunner.swansea.uk.linux.org/v4l.shtml [video4linux] Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
TR: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian
-Message d'origine- De: David Nelson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: dimanche 4 avril 1999 13:45 À: 'Syrus Nemat-Nasser' Objet: RE: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian Hi Syrus, No, my card is the ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV, which I think differs from the All-In-Wonder in that the TV tuner is a separate ISA card (only takes power from the ISA bus) that connects to the PCI graphic card via a cable attached to the graphic card's feature connector, whereas I think the All-In-Wonder has the TV tuner onboard... Anyway thanks for the info, I'll take a look at the pages... David -Message d'origine- De: Syrus Nemat-Nasser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: vendredi 2 avril 1999 13:16 À: David Nelson Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Objet: RE: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, David Nelson wrote: Do you reckon it would work with my ATI-TV card? And will xawtv support PAL/SECAM, etc? When I was looking at TV cards, the ATI was not supported, and there were no plans to support it due to NDA requirements, I believe. PAL/SECAM is an option for xawtv, so I think the answer is yes to the second question. I would suggest looking at the bttv web page to see if there is any mention of the ATI--you probably mean the All-in-wonder right? http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~rjkm/linux/bttv.html [bttv] http://roadrunner.swansea.uk.linux.org/v4l.shtml [video4linux] Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Slink Install: Kernel Unpacking Sound Problems
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 09:51:44AM +0200, John Stevenson wrote: Hello, Hi John [..] I have had same problems after updating from 2.0.36-2 to 2.0.36-3 but , oops, I've still forgotten following steps: 1. configure kernel for sound - You have already done so 2. change to the `/usr/src/awedrv` directory - run `./install.sh` note: If You like AWE32-Mixer You must uncomment the line /* add mixer control of emu8000 equalizer */ #define CONFIG_AWE32_MIXER 3. configure kernel for AWE-Support 4. recompile 5. reboot 6. have fun with sound again cu -- Peter Berlau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
Hello, Stefan Nobis: Do you get the point? To send emails bigger than about 40-80KB without being asked to do so and without asking the recipient is not very nice and i would call it an offence. Your point being? Everyone knows that you shouldn't in general send files over about 50 KB (or at least everyone that's read RFC 1855). Everyone knows you shouldn't send large amounts of unsolicited information to people. Everyone also knows that you should end each line with a carriage return, except people who write web-browser mail facilities. Jiri -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll know the future has arrived when every mailer transparently quotes lines that begin with From , but no-one remembers why.
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
Steve Lamb: Ohh... You mean make it easy for idiot users to send large attachments through a medium that wasn't designed for it, shouldn't be used in that manner, and causes more problems than is needed with each step of the way. If I were to do it I'd have the email client teach them how to send a [EMAIL PROTECTED]@^%$# URL. Hamish Moffatt: Wrong solution. Users should not have to adapt to technology (within reason); the technology should allow users to send huge email attachments if they need to. Otherwise it should be fixed. The operative word being `need to'. It'd be a very good feature indeed if the e-mail client checked the size of the message and said, when appropriate, something along the lines of this is an unusually large message by Internet standards; are you sure? (y/N) and popped up a wizard for other ways of transferring the file. It's one thing to send Christmas gifs to people that are a couple of hundred bytes long; it's quite a different story when it's a huge, uncompressed bitmap which does exactly the same job. Sadly, in most e-mail clients either would be just a filename, with no immediate indication of how big it really is. Jiri -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll know the future has arrived when every mailer transparently quotes lines that begin with From , but no-one remembers why.
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:10:08 +1000 (EST), Jiri Baum wrote: Everyone knows that you shouldn't in general send files over about 50 KB (or at least everyone that's read RFC 1855). Everyone knows you shouldn't send large amounts of unsolicited information to people. Everyone doesn't know that, however. The uneducated people who start up on the Internet each day are the ones who don't know better and are demanding the capability even though there are solutions whivh have been available for over a decade. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNwdns3pf7K2LbpnFEQI9BACcCM+BPwnO3JC/C+I+fxK2F3hEg3kAoI6y zcLgJRwLbB0vrKVa7AqHqYsm =kzNg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: TR: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian
*- On 4 Apr, David Nelson wrote about TR: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian Syrus and Brian (and whoever else), I checked the page Brian recommended, and apparently ATI seem to have changed policy and there may soon be support for ATI-TV... That is amazing! That has been updated between the time I sent the reply and the time you looked at it. Way to go ATI! -- Brian
Re: Confused about Cable modem/ NIC setup
Hi Mark,
I have a Linksys and it seems like your card is identified right. However.
take a look at /etc/init.d/network. I am using IP 192.168.1.1 and have it
like this.
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -host 127.0.0.1 lo
IPADDR=192.168.1.1
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.1.0
BROADCAST=192.168.1.255
GATEWAY=192.168.1.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} up
route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} eth0
This code brings up the network. you might want to check if you have the
above statements in your file.
Let me know,
Cheers,
Vaidhy
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 11:31:08PM -0800, Mark Wagnon wrote:
Hi all:
I had problems with the dhcp client that comes with slink, so I
installed the version that's in potato. It installed okay, but it
prompted me for a network device from a list that it apparently found.
Unfortunately, it found none.
I have a Linksys card and I've been to their site and followed
instructions on making the latest version of their tulip driver
available when I compile the kernel.
I compiled my kernel, and I get this message about my nic when I
rebooted:
tulip.c:v0.90 10/20/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eth0: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC at 0xe800, 00 a0 cc 22 71 e4, IRQ 12.
eth0: MII transceiver #1 config 3100 status 7829 advertising 01e1.
Is this right? Is my card being recognized? It looks similar to the
example in the Cable-Modem-mini-HOWTO.
However, ifconfig doesn't show eth0, I just get lo and ppp0 (right now).
The linksys site mentions to do a cat /proc/pci, so I did and it looks
like:
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 9, function 0:
Ethernet controller: Lite-on LNE100TX (rev 32).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 12. Master
Capable. Latency=64.
I/O at 0xe800.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xea00.
for my NIC.
The Linksys website mentions that if the output of the cat /proc/pci
looks like this:
Bus 0, device 9, function 0:
Ethernet controller: Lite-on LNE100TX (rev 32).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable.
Master Capable. No bursts. I/O at 0x0.
then my BIOS is configured wrong.
Can anyone help me/point me in the right direction? I've read the
Cable-Modem-mini-HOWTO, the Ethernet-HOWTO, and a couple other docs
written by people at my local LUG, but they use redhat and do everything
from the control panel and network configuration tools that redhat has.
TIA
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Re: RedHat = MS-Linux
Ed C. writes: If a compromise is not possible, then an 'install-rc' tool *accepted by all dists* would be the only other choice, and it would essentially have to know the details about every dist that conforms to the LSB. Writing (and maintaining) the thing could be real hairy. The idea is that each distribution would provide its own install-rc. The interface would be standard, but the implementation would be entirely up to the distribution. Even if the LSB isn't interested, I think it would be useful to extend update-rc to hide more of the details of the init system. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
--- Jiri Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Stefan Nobis: Do you get the point? To send emails bigger than about 40-80KB without being asked to do so and without asking the recipient is not very nice and i would call it an offence. Your point being? Everyone knows that you shouldn't in general send files over about 50 KB (or at least everyone that's read RFC 1855). Everyone knows you shouldn't send large amounts of unsolicited information to people. No they don't! My wife routinely gets attachments in the 300-600K range from her friend back home. Yesterday, her friend sent a couple of files called something like easterbunny.exe both about 1.5M. Obviously this is a DOS|Windows executable file of no use to her anyway. Probably a stupid jumping bunny greeting card! This friend has a cable modem so doesn't notice the time it would take to download a file that size. I conversely have a 33.6 dialup connection. If I were fetching that file from pop3 I would have been really upset. Luckily my wife uses a yahoo.com webmail account like I do so I was able to see the message while it sat on yahoo's server and delete it when I saw what kind of file it was without having to download it. So, from experience, everyone does not know and most don't care. IMO all mailers should be _required_ to limit attachment size and inform the user of a proper way to handle file transfer. As an aside, this person sends .doc files regularly too; luckily we're not susceptible to their evils. Regards, G.S. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Keys in xterm, keys in rxvt...
I am confused by the keys in xterm and rxvt. I find that the F* keys and Home, End, don't work in xterm (and I can't see how to make them do so via xkeycaps). They do work in rxvt, unless I've run /etc/bash_profile in order to get the aliases, etc, after which the F keys no longer work. All very odd. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Re: what exactly is a segmentation fault?
ldd of multitrack: libvga.so.1 = /usr/lib/libvga.so.1 (0x4000c000) libvgagl.so.1 = /usr/lib/libvgagl.so.1 (0x40058000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40067000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40105000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4010e000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401cc000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40271000) ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4028a000) I think depending both on libc5 and libc6 shouldn't be a healthy situation. This one seems to be a libc5 program depending on svgalib, but maybe you haven't installed the libc5-compatible svgalib libraries (package 'svgalib1' in section 'oldlibs') so your program tries to use the libc6 ones, resulting in this conflict. That was it! Thanks Rich
Re: New Building Voice/Data Recommendations
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote: : I will soon be moving into a 32' x 58' 'manufactured' house. It is a 3 : bedroom, with 1 room being 'the computer room'. I have several questions : concerning the wiring for phone and networking. : : Using cat 5 cable, should I run 1 run for voice, and 1 for data? Or can I : use 4 5 for the voice. I want to run 10/100. Use seperate cables for data and phone. Phone doesn't have to be CAT 5 if cost is an issue. : Should this/these be in pvc or metal conduit? Should the cat 5 be of : shielded variety? Should the phone connection demark be in the same area as : the data termination points? Hmm ... not my area of expertise. However, I think interior conduit could be wahtever is most cost effective. I don't believe you need shielded cable inside, either. Most newer homes I've seen have a punchdown block for phone, a cable TV splitter, and a CAT 5 patch panel all in the same location, usually somewhere near the junction box. That way everything's in the same location. You're probably going to want to mount a hub or switch in this location, or your CAT 5 cable is fairly useless. : I would really like to have atleast 2 walls in each room of the house : covered for voice and data. Cost is of some concern, but my employeer will : cover the cost of the cable. : : Between the house and the office (300ft) we have an electrical line in pvc : in a ditch. The will be wiring me up to work, and need to know if I: : : need to look at fiber or is it fibre? ;) : Does a cat 5 or enhanced cat 5 cable need to be shielded and in a seperate : conduit? Now I'm losing you ... how exactly are you connecting data-wise to your employer? Some fiber solution? Cable modem? DSL? With cable modem or DSL, the way to go is to place the modem device in your demarc room - on top of the Ethernet switch is a good place! It's then a simple matter of plugging the modem into the switch, and you're ready to go (though some cable modem services require a proxy between the modem and the switch if you're using more than four devices - our cable modem service works this way, for example. I believe many DSL services have similar limits). Otherwise it would appear your employer has som alternate access mechanism in mind. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: irc help
Shawn Nguyen wrote: I am using Zircon IRC to try to hook up to irc.debian.org but I can't seem to get there. Is there something special that I need to do in order to open the link to irc.debian.org? Does it work? Hmm.. irc.debian.org was a sort of a round-robin thing; wasn't working anymore last I tried it either. Use irc.Openprojects.net to get to the #debian channel. Hope this helps. Shawn -- . . | /-\ (-) /-\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux
multiple mailings
I'm getting about 4 copies of every piece of mail to the list. I can't handle it. I'll unsubscribe for now. Maybe later. Carl Wiebe
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
Gary Singleton wrote: [..] As an aside, this person sends .doc files regularly too; luckily we're not susceptible to their evils. Don't get mad: get even. People that send me .doc files generally recieve a copy of the bash manpage or a big ole tarball. :-) Regards, G.S. -- . . | /-\ (-) /-\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux
lpd/lprng
Hi, in my /etc/init.d I have a lpd and a lprng script. What is the difference between them, and do I need them both? When I do a ps I have two instances of lpd running. Is that right? TIA --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe UIN 3945810 Date: 04-Apr-99 Time: 12:45:11 This message was sent by XFmail Powered by Debian GNU/Linux ---
Slink mail
I just did a minor upgrade of my system to slink (I had done a major upgrade before it was officially released), and am now having problems with mail. Everytime runq or in.smtpd run, they are going balistic, and taking up all of my processor (causing loads 2 or 3). Does anyone know what is going on and/or how to fix it? Everything was running perfectly until I did that minor upgrade yesturday (and I'm not sure what all was upgraded). Thanks, chris
Mutt 0.95.4-0.1
Hi there, I'm currently using Mutt 0.93i and would like to upgrade to 0.95.4-0.1, which I ftp'ed. The problem is that the dependencies for it are slang1 ( 1.3) and slang1 ( 1.2.2-0), whereas I only have slang0.99.38-6, am I supposed to install a slang version smaller than 1.3 but bigger than 1.2.2-0? sorry, the doubles `' `' confuse me here. TIA Horacio -- Claves - GnuPG/PGP - Keys : http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver o/or Envía un mensaje vacío a [EMAIL PROTECTED] con la línea de asunto: Send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject line: Tipo de Clave/Key Type Asunto:/Subject: DSA/ElGamal fetch dsa/elgamal DSS/Diffie-Hellman fetch dh/dss RSA fetch rsa
Re: Installing the Latest Version of Debian from a DOS partition
Egwu Kalu wrote: What am I doing wrong ? I tried to install Debian (latest, March 99) from a DOS partition without sucess. The messages I get on my screen are : uncompressing Linux ran out of input data --- system halted. The system does hang-up. I am not a Debian-user but would like to become one if I can figure out what I am doing wrong. Pls. reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] eek You'll need to run the install.bat from within the directory where your Debian files are (e.g. C:\DEBIAN). You'll need to have several files in that directory (install.bat, root.bin, linux, drv1440.bin, resc1440.bin, loadlin.exe, and base2_1.tgz (or something like that, I don't remember off-hand). Also, chances are that you downloaded the linux from a browser that automatically renamed it linux.htm; if so, rename the file back to just linux.
Re: Mutt 0.95.4-0.1 and slang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: Hi there, I'm currently using Mutt 0.93i and would like to upgrade to 0.95.4-0.1, which I ftp'ed. The problem is that the dependencies for it are slang1 ( 1.3) and slang1 ( 1.2.2-0), whereas I only have slang0.99.38-6, am I supposed to install a slang version smaller than 1.3 but bigger than 1.2.2-0? sorry, the doubles `' `' confuse me here. ah, I could only find slang1-ja_1.2.2.j055-1.deb (with a Japanese patch), but it says nothing about slang-dev being required (which it was for slang0.99 will that be ok? TIA Horacio -- Claves - GnuPG/PGP - Keys : http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver o/or Envía un mensaje vacío a [EMAIL PROTECTED] con la línea de asunto: Send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject line: Tipo de Clave/Key Type Asunto:/Subject: DSA/ElGamal fetch dsa/elgamal DSS/Diffie-Hellman fetch dh/dss RSA fetch rsa
Re: irc help
Subject: irc help Date: Sun, Apr 04, 1999 at 01:30:41AM -1000 In reply to:Shawn Nguyen Quoting Shawn Nguyen([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, I am using Zircon IRC to try to hook up to irc.debian.org but I can't seem to get there. Is there something special that I need to do in order to open the link to irc.debian.org? Does it work? Shawn I have, in .zircon/netspaces/EFnet Server -host irc.cs.cmu.edu Server -host irc.us.debian.org Server -host irc.linux.org Server :: select irc.cs.cmu.edu There is a debian group on irc.cs.cmu.edu irc.us.debian.org. If you have not configured the netspaces yet, put those servers in the preferences file. HTH -- Nobody said computers were going to be polite. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new ICQ clone for Unix
A new ICQ clone for Unixes just appeared: http://www.chesapeake.net/~jacob/icqnix/download.html This one uses QT and comes in a deb package too. -- Andrew [PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37]
Trying to play a game....
Hi, I am trying to play Maelstrom, a game that comes with Debian Non-Free. When I try to start it I get the following after the window has opened and shut down again: Major opcode of failed request: 129 (MIT-SHM) Minor opcode of failed request: 3 (X_ShmPutImage) Serial number of failed request: 96 Current serial number in output stream: 97 What could be wrong? TIA --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe UIN 3945810 Date: 04-Apr-99 Time: 13:11:02 This message was sent by XFmail Powered by Debian GNU/Linux ---
upgrading libc6
I just tried to install the new ICQ clone ICQnix and got this: Selecting previously deselected package icqnix. (Reading database ... 42715 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking icqnix (from ICQnix-Beta-1-0.i386.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of icqnix: icqnix depends on libc6 (= 2.1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.0.7.19981211-6. icqnix depends on qt1g (= 1.42-2); however: Version of qt1g on system is 1.42-1. dpkg: error processing icqnix (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: icqnix My question is: Is it going to be a big problem upgrading libc6 or QT? I seem to recall reading on this list that libc 2.1 has some problems. thanks -- Andrew [PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37]
Re: Linux installation help
The thing is, I moved the files to c:\linux\ and when I give /dev/hda1/linux as installation path, I get a message that says that the directory cannot be found... -Message d'origine- De : Bruce Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : Cyril Heck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date : dimanche 4 avril 1999 20:04 Objet : Re: Linux installation help yes -- On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Cyril Heck wrote: I have an old CD of debian 1.3 and am trying to install packages from there. I just installed debian 2.1 after being downloaded from the internet. This was my first install but everything seemed allright. The problem is it seems the system (linux) doesn't recognize my CD drive, I think because it is a Sony DVD drive. Can I copy the files from the cd to my harddisk and install everything from there ??? Thanx in advance, Cyril Heck -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null later, Bruce
Re: Linux installation help
Cyril Heck wrote: The thing is, I moved the files to c:\linux\ and when I give /dev/hda1/linux as installation path, I get a message that says that the directory cannot be found... -Message d'origine- De : Bruce Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : Cyril Heck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date : dimanche 4 avril 1999 20:04 Objet : Re: Linux installation help yes -- On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Cyril Heck wrote: I have an old CD of debian 1.3 and am trying to install packages from there. I just installed debian 2.1 after being downloaded from the internet. This was my first install but everything seemed allright. The problem is it seems the system (linux) doesn't recognize my CD drive, I think because it is a Sony DVD drive. Can I copy the files from the cd to my harddisk and install everything from there ??? Thanx in advance, Cyril Heck I *think* that by the time you get to where it asks for files, the installation routine has already mounted the hard drive, so you should only enter /linux, not /dev/hda1/linux.
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
What's the accepted method of sending a file to a person that MUST not get into unfriendly hands, but needs to get between users that have no access to the other's machine, due to dynamic PPP and hostile ISPs, then? This method should be as easy and as transportable as POPmail, not involve other servers in any way save routing, be able to be used internationally, and ensure delivery to only the intended person. Give up? Well so do I. Solve this problem before you beef about how large attachments to email is evil. On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Gary Singleton wrote: --- Jiri Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Stefan Nobis: Do you get the point? To send emails bigger than about 40-80KB without being asked to do so and without asking the recipient is not very nice and i would call it an offence. Your point being? Everyone knows that you shouldn't in general send files over about 50 KB (or at least everyone that's read RFC 1855). Everyone knows you shouldn't send large amounts of unsolicited information to people. No they don't! My wife routinely gets attachments in the 300-600K range from her friend back home. Yesterday, her friend sent a couple of files called something like easterbunny.exe both about 1.5M. Obviously this is a DOS|Windows executable file of no use to her anyway. Probably a stupid jumping bunny greeting card! This friend has a cable modem so doesn't notice the time it would take to download a file that size. I conversely have a 33.6 dialup connection. If I were fetching that file from pop3 I would have been really upset. Luckily my wife uses a yahoo.com webmail account like I do so I was able to see the message while it sat on yahoo's server and delete it when I saw what kind of file it was without having to download it. So, from experience, everyone does not know and most don't care. IMO all mailers should be _required_ to limit attachment size and inform the user of a proper way to handle file transfer. As an aside, this person sends .doc files regularly too; luckily we're not susceptible to their evils. Regards, G.S. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: RedHat = MS-Linux
[I've made some big cuts. If I cut out anything you think I should have addressed then feel free to bring it up again.] On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: Bruce Sass wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: ... Anybody with better knowledge like to speak up here? ditto that question. Filesystem differences are trivial, that is what ln is for, right? For the issue of a software package that needs to get a daemon running at bootup, I don't think the problem is trivial. The layout and use of the /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d dirs is (I've read) far from compatible between RH and Deb. It is those kinds of differences that make Debian superior to RH (or so I've read ;) ). ... i386 RH and i386 Debian are compatible. I installed a pine 4.04 .rpm, using _RPM_, on my Debian system. It worked just fine. Once I told dpkg about it (by modifying the dpkg DB entry for the pine 3.96 .deb) you couldn't tell it was an alien unless you looked at the location of the config files. Now imagine a situation where a lib or program is only available as an RPM, which has other programs that depend on its config files and/or their location. Programs that hard code file locations are poorly written period. OSS programs that do so will be replaced by versions that do not. Non-OSS programs that do that will not be widely accepted in the Linux world because they cause too many problems. This is just one more issue I see as self regulating. Remember, this is the UNIX world, not the MS one world (although you'd never know it by looking at some of the programs out there). Are there not several .debs that have an install script that needs to look at or modify another packages config stuff? At the very least, .deb scripts would have to know about the multiple locations of config files and possibly even different syntax for config files. Is this problem solvable? Sure, with a quite of bit of hacking. Can you always get enough programmers/developers to work on this kind of problem every time RH decides to change something to a non-standard method? Even if the answer here is yes also, Deb will always be a step behind, which might be exactly where other distros (RH) would want us to be. This is a problem, environment variables are the solution. A program that is so closely tied to another that it needs to parse the config files itself will probably have synchronous releases (and perhaps even close coordination between them). Dpkg is a special case, either it needs to know the gory details about every package installable, or leave the config stuff up to the program it is installing (which is what it does). Trying to force programmers to use a specific format for config files will not work, identifying what needs to be exported so that the software can coexist with other tools on the system will. The real problem is not the multitude of config methods and file formats around, it is a lack of understanding on the programmers part with respect to the UNIX philosophy. Please keep in mind, though, that my main concern beyond technical incompatibilities is a situation where RH is so dominant, app makers simply decide not to even support other distros. ... This is not an issue because a properly written UNIX/Linux program will fit into any UNIX/Linux system with only minor tweaking. Also, if RH tries using proprietary libs on their system, its entirely possible for a group of Debian hackers to bang heads and come up with GPL clone of those libs, but this, to me, would be a bad signal anyway, as it would in essence suggest that Debian is becoming a clone of RH out of necessity. The way I see it... If you could take any package and install it on any system, and it works without tweaking stuff, then those systems are clones of each other on a very basic level. In the case of *applications*, whats wrong with compatibility at a 'very basic level'? System and utility packages can be different for different distros, but for apps the whole idea of LSB is to allow app packages be usable on different dists. Nothing, unless you think that your way is better than the other ways. ... Until, of course, OSS hits the mainstream in a big way, and OSS developers can make money/fame off of gamers. OSS will be a power to be reckoned with in the commercial world, but, despite being a supporter, I'm not sure if OSS can hit the *mainstream* in a 'big way'. The biggest problem is something you said above, the commercial world has never held much interest for me. I suspect most programmers in the OSS feel the same, and thus will not push OSS hard into the mainstream basically because of a lack of interest. If OSS goes mainstream it will be because the commercial world CEO's see an advantage to doing so, the programmers will have little choice in the
cdrom problems
Hi! I'm getting these reports whenever I access my new cdrom (Samsung 32x max). I'm using kernel 2.0.37prelatest. Everything works fine, I just get these annoying messages and the access to the CD-ROM is slower. Can anybody help? Thanks! -- p.
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
--- John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the accepted method of sending a file to a person that MUST not get into unfriendly hands, but needs to get between users that have no access to the other's machine, due to dynamic PPP and hostile ISPs, then? Dynamic IP addresses can be taken care of using services like dyndns.org, ddns.org many others. My machine is online several hours a day using dyndns, I have the proftpd server running and can allow secure access via this or even using Apache. If I was to have such a hostile ISP I would switch to one of the many available in most areas of the world. Many ISPs however might be considered hostile by newbies for not allowing large attachments or charging for excess mail storage. This method should be as easy and as transportable as POPmail, not involve other servers in any way save routing, be able to be used internationally, and ensure delivery to only the intended person. Why, just to bend the rules to your definition of what the method should be? That's a little like saying I'm now using the internet, you must all bend to my definition of what e-mail should be. Give up? Well so do I. Solve this problem before you beef about how large attachments to email is evil. You can give up if you like, but I'll continue to take the position that e-mail is for message exchange not file exchange. There are established methods for secure file transfer by the way, e-mail is most definitely not the most secure method of transfer for any file that MUST not get into unfriendly hands. I will continue to beef about large attachments when they are sent to me and mine unrequested unwelcome. There are solutions available if you would look, perhaps they're not as easy and transportable but they are there, they are established and they are the proper way of handling large file transfer, secure or not. Regards, G.S. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
writing gnome-gtk-programs-questions
Hi, I've just download the gnome and gtk-stuff from http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink /dists/unstable/main/binary-i386' I've sucked almost every stuff from this and installed: -gnome -enlightenment my personally preferency is, however, - gnome or -iceWM-GNOME (with theme gnomeish) I usually writing apps using the qt-1.44 - Library from Troll Techhttp://www.troll.no I like the gnome-feel. KDE is for me to much I not needed this at all, so should I change my gui-tool from qt to gtk-- (hope this is the c++-part of gtk ?) to make the program-line more straight ahead ? some question: What do I need if I like to develop my application for gnome, I preffer C++ not C, however, ... is there a tutorial, a manual, anything else, ... qt comes with several very clear examples(program-codes included) and a 800 pg. Handbook + tutorial , and last but not least it's very easy to use in C++. I've tried g++ -o hello hello.cc -I/usr/lib/Gtk--/include -lgtkmm `gtk-config --cflags` that produced In file included from hello.cc:1: /usr/include/gtk--.h:203: gtk--/accelgroup.h: No such file or directory In file included from ./../widget.gen_h:5, from /usr/include/gtk--/container.h:7, from /usr/include/gtk--/bin.h:8, from /usr/include/gtk--/alignment.h:8, from /usr/include/gtk--.h:208, from hello.cc:1: /usr/include/gtk--/accelerator.h:8: gtk/gtkaccelerator.h: No such file or directory In file included from hello.cc:1: /usr/include/gtk--.h:239: gtk--/itemfactory.h: No such file or directory What do I wrong or what I must additional install on to my system ? I have running: Debian/Gnu Linux 2.1 slink Thanks for help and information cu, Peter -- Peter Berlau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel
What kernel is this, exactly (if it really is a 2.1, you should probably upgrade)? Are you using compiled-in drivers, or modules? I was running the 2.2.1 kernel which is in potato. Since your message I jumped over to netgod.net and grabbed the debs for 2.2.5. Installed them, configured and compiled (all went nicely), installed and rebooted, and I get the exact same thing (no sound, no /proc/sound). Does your .config file have a line that says CONFIG_SOUND=m (or 'y', as approprate)? CONFIG_SOUND=y CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370=y is what I have in the /usr/src/linux/.config file. -- If the current stylistic distinctions between open-source and commercial software persist, an open-software revolution could lead to yet another divide between haves and have-nots: those with the skills and connections to make use of free software, and those who must pay high prices for increasingly dated commercial offerings. -- Scientific American
Re: Confused about Cable modem/ NIC setup
Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote: Hi Mark, I have a Linksys and it seems like your card is identified right. However. take a look at /etc/init.d/network. I am using IP 192.168.1.1 and have it like this. [Config info clipped] This code brings up the network. you might want to check if you have the above statements in your file. Thanks Vaidhy, In reading some of the HOWTOs, there was mention of using Redhat utils to accomplish setting up the network. I just didn't know where to put the info that was given to me by Cox. I'll edit my /etc/init.d/network file and work from there. I'll keep you and the list posted. Thanks again, Mark
Configure Mouse
I just installed Debian 2.1 on /dev/hdb1 (/dev/hda has Windows 98). I have a K6-233, 32Mb RAM machine. My mainboard manual says my mouse port is a PS/2 Mouse. I installed the IBM PS/2 bus mouse driver during the install. I also tried to install the the Microsoft bus mouse driver but the install failed with a device busy message. When I try to run vga_solitaire to test the mouse, no mouse cursor appears. When I exit the program, I see a message saying my mouse has not been configured. What do I need to do to get my mouse working? BTW, I searched the archives a lot prior to installing debian and learned a great deal. Thank you. Greg
Installing problems
I do not understand this. This is about the 4th time I am installing debian 2.0 from the same CD and I never had this problems before: 1. I am not able to access any other filesystem than ext2 so I cannot access my CDROM or Dos harddisk or even the floppy after the initial installation script. 2. The menu does not allow me to choose msdos or isofs as a filesystem during the installation. It does allow umsdos however. When I do a insmod umsdos, I get a lot of error messages about unresolved symbols. The same happens with the ppp-module. I did install have linux installed partly on this machine (Pentium 166) before, but decided to reinstall it because of some wrong choices I made during the installation process. Now this happens. What am I doing wrong? Johann. -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- Thou will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee, because he trusts in thee. Isaiah 26:3
Re: Configure Mouse
Greg Scharrer wrote: I just installed Debian 2.1 on /dev/hdb1 (/dev/hda has Windows 98). I have a K6-233, 32Mb RAM machine. My mainboard manual says my mouse port is a PS/2 Mouse. I installed the IBM PS/2 bus mouse driver during the install. I also tried to install the the Microsoft bus mouse driver but the install failed with a device busy message. When I try to run vga_solitaire to test the mouse, no mouse cursor appears. When I exit the program, I see a message saying my mouse has not been configured. What do I need to do to get my mouse working? BTW, I searched the archives a lot prior to installing debian and learned a great deal. Thank you. Greg I believe you need to edit /etc/vga/svgalib.conf and uncomment (remove the # from) the line that matches your mouse type and comment out the mouse unconfigured line.
netscape crashes on mail-to
Been away from the list for awhile and missed everybody. Running Debian 2.1 and everything is pretty stable except one annoying problem in netscape, and it happens in every version of netscape (4.5, older, newer, communicator, navigator, mozilla) Whenever I visit a website which has a mail-to tag, the browser bites the dust. I've checked the html source of the sites, and they're just simple mail-to tags. My mail works fine otherwise, I send and recieve, I don't get ithelp! Kathy
Re: Configure Mouse
Greg Scharrer wrote: I just installed Debian 2.1 on /dev/hdb1 (/dev/hda has Windows 98). I have a K6-233, 32Mb RAM machine. My mainboard manual says my mouse port is a PS/2 Mouse. I installed the IBM PS/2 bus mouse driver during the install. I also tried to install the the Microsoft bus mouse driver but the install failed with a device busy message. When I try to run vga_solitaire to test the mouse, no mouse cursor appears. When I exit the program, I see a message saying my mouse has not been configured. What do I need to do to get my mouse working? My mouse is working fine but doesn't work with vga_solitaire so I don't know if that is the best way to test your mouse. Have you run gpm config yet? That will get your mouse working in console. hth, Kent
Re: netscape crashes on mail-to
*- On 4 Apr, Kathy Miles wrote about netscape crashes on mail-to Been away from the list for awhile and missed everybody. Running Debian 2.1 and everything is pretty stable except one annoying problem in netscape, and it happens in every version of netscape (4.5, older, newer, communicator, navigator, mozilla) Whenever I visit a website which has a mail-to tag, the browser bites the dust. I've checked the html source of the sites, and they're just simple mail-to tags. My mail works fine otherwise, I send and recieve, I don't get ithelp! Kathy It is a known bug (sorry I don't have any references) but to work around it you need to have the Messenger window open(it can be iconified). -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: Configure Mouse
ktb wrote: Greg Scharrer wrote: I just installed Debian 2.1 on /dev/hdb1 (/dev/hda has Windows 98). I have a K6-233, 32Mb RAM machine. My mainboard manual says my mouse port is a PS/2 Mouse. I installed the IBM PS/2 bus mouse driver during the install. I also tried to install the the Microsoft bus mouse driver but the install failed with a device busy message. When I try to run vga_solitaire to test the mouse, no mouse cursor appears. When I exit the program, I see a message saying my mouse has not been configured. What do I need to do to get my mouse working? My mouse is working fine but doesn't work with vga_solitaire so I don't know if that is the best way to test your mouse. Have you run gpm config yet? That will get your mouse working in console. hth, Kent Kent makes a good point; there are two mouse drivers; one for the console (configured with gpmconfig), and one for the svga stuff (/etc/vga/libvga.conf).
Re: Good MP3 encoder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a good MP3 encoder for linux? I have an old copy of 8hz-mp3, but it takes like 10hrs to rip and encode a cd. I'd prefer an open source encoder, but am not opposed to a commercial one. I just want to get one that is fast. TIA, chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I use cdgrab (debian package) and an encoder (dist10 or lsf maybe??), which is not available as a .deb On my P-60 it takes ~1 hour for a track. You didn't mention what processor you have, so it may or may not be faster than the one you already have. Anyway there are two files you need for this encoder - dist10.tar.gz and dist10patch-2.1f.gz frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Confused about Cable modem/ NIC setup
Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote: Hi Mark, I have a Linksys and it seems like your card is identified right. However. take a look at /etc/init.d/network. I am using IP 192.168.1.1 and have it like this. [config info snipped] This code brings up the network. you might want to check if you have the above statements in your file. Let me know, Cheers, Vaidhy I've entered the info into my /etc/init.d/network file. I've set up my /etc/hosts file to reflect my ip address and hostname. I was confused on what to enter into my /etc/resolv.conf. Originally I had a line that read search . then my two dns entries. I have some documentation that instructs me to insert search domain.im.in.home.com as the example. I only have a subdomain listed. I tried the search . to start. I was able to ping my ip address and my gateway, but not the nameservers. Also, in order to do so, I had to stop and restart the network using /etc/init.d/network stop (start). I had to do this even after I rebooted. um, what else... I tried replacing the line in my resolv.conf with search ., but got the same results. I should have written this down, as I'm flipping between Linux and Windows to correspond now. Any ideas? Thanks again (because I couldn't have come this far on my own). Mark
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:42:58 -0700, you wrote: Gary Singleton wrote: [..] As an aside, this person sends .doc files regularly too; luckily we're not susceptible to their evils. Don't get mad: get even. I think public needs to be educated on the issue but the marketing effort has been weak thus far. And I don't think the usual linux dogmatism is such a good idea. hmmm I think I have solution. Creat a buzz word like RFC 824 ( or whatever the number) Compliance or something like that and give the moniker to compliant linux mailer, list it as a feature etc. Generally make an issue out of it. Then some 2 bit twee so-called-journalist sees it and starts parroting it in maggotzines. All of sudden, every 2 bit luser, IT (blow-)heads, and CEOs (= Cheap Excretion Offspring) who read the said maggotsines seriously and will want to be compliant! So the first step is creating is a buzz word that sounds important/cool, and easy to memorize ( remember we are dealing with hoards of idiots). Any ideas?
Re: Trying to play a game....
I had that error too. You can't run Marlstrom in 24 bpp, it must be in 16 or less. That should fix your problem. It took me a while to get it fixed, so this might not be the answer that fixes that one problem. Rob On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote: Hi, I am trying to play Maelstrom, a game that comes with Debian Non-Free. When I try to start it I get the following after the window has opened and shut down again: Major opcode of failed request: 129 (MIT-SHM) Minor opcode of failed request: 3 (X_ShmPutImage) Serial number of failed request: 96 Current serial number in output stream: 97 What could be wrong? TIA --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe UIN 3945810 Date: 04-Apr-99 Time: 13:11:02 This message was sent by XFmail Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled. ===
Re: RedHat = MS-Linux
John Hasler wrote: Ed C. writes: If a compromise is not possible, then an 'install-rc' tool *accepted by all dists* would be the only other choice, and it would essentially have to know the details about every dist that conforms to the LSB. Writing (and maintaining) the thing could be real hairy. The idea is that each distribution would provide its own install-rc. The interface would be standard, but the implementation would be entirely up to the distribution. Ok, I see this. Everyones install-rc would be called by the system's RPM manager to handle packages needing to modify the init system, for adding a daemon as an example. The install-rc interface to the user/package manager scripts would work in a manner specified by the LSB. Even if the LSB isn't interested, I think it would be useful to extend update-rc to hide more of the details of the init system. -- Ed C.
RE: netscape crashes on mail-to
On 04-Apr-99 Kathy Miles wrote: Been away from the list for awhile and missed everybody. Running Debian 2.1 and everything is pretty stable except one annoying problem in netscape, and it happens in every version of netscape (4.5, older, newer, communicator, navigator, mozilla) Whenever I visit a website which has a mail-to tag, the browser bites the dust. I've checked the html source of the sites, and they're just simple mail-to tags. My mail works fine otherwise, I send and recieve, I don't get ithelp! Kathy That is a Netscape bug; it's not just you. I want to try 4.51 but cannot find a glibc version, only libc5. -- Andrew [PGP5.0 KeyID 0x5EE61C37] [ICQ#175285]
Re: Confused about Cable modem/ NIC setup
Hi Mark, Couple of things. /etc/init.d/network is not your normal stop, start, restart stuff.. It just executes a series of command. your resolv.conf should have search your.domain.com nameserver 1 nameserver 2 nameserver 3 .. For eg, I call my network at home loonys.net. so my resolv.conf will look like this search loonys.net; my domain name nameserver 127.0.0.1 ; local machine nameserver 205.152.0.20 ; Primary DNS from isp nameserver 205.152.0.5 ;secondary DNS from isp My /etc/hosts will have something like this .. For eg, I call my network at home loonys.net. so my resolv.conf will look like this search loonys.net; my domain name nameserver 127.0.0.1 ; local machine nameserver 205.152.0.20 ; Primary DNS from isp nameserver 205.152.0.5 ;secondary DNS from isp My /etc/hosts will have something like this 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.1.1 www.loonys.net 192.168.1.1 loony1.loonys.net loony1 192.168.1.2 loony2.loonys.net loony2 loony1 is my first machine and loony2 is my second machine. Hope this helps.. Cheers, Vaidhy BTW, all this is explained in very detail in NET-3.HOWTO On Sun, Apr 04, 1999 at 01:37:36PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote: Hi Mark, I have a Linksys and it seems like your card is identified right. However. take a look at /etc/init.d/network. I am using IP 192.168.1.1 and have it like this. [config info snipped] This code brings up the network. you might want to check if you have the above statements in your file. Let me know, Cheers, Vaidhy I've entered the info into my /etc/init.d/network file. I've set up my /etc/hosts file to reflect my ip address and hostname. I was confused on what to enter into my /etc/resolv.conf. Originally I had a line that read search . then my two dns entries. I have some documentation that instructs me to insert search domain.im.in.home.com as the example. I only have a subdomain listed. I tried the search . to start. I was able to ping my ip address and my gateway, but not the nameservers. Also, in order to do so, I had to stop and restart the network using /etc/init.d/network stop (start). I had to do this even after I rebooted. um, what else... I tried replacing the line in my resolv.conf with search ., but got the same results. I should have written this down, as I'm flipping between Linux and Windows to correspond now. Any ideas? Thanks again (because I couldn't have come this far on my own). Mark -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Good MP3 encoder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know of a good MP3 encoder for linux? I have an old copy of 8hz-mp3, but it takes like 10hrs to rip and encode a cd. I'd prefer an open source encoder, but am not opposed to a commercial one. I just want to get one that is fast. Look at ftp://wopr.campus.luth.se/pub/mpeg_layer_3/, there is an encoder-1.02a.tgz program there. The license is: Copyright (c) 1998 Andreas Johansson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] All rights reserved. Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. It is based on the IIS reference mpeg layer 3 encoder, don't know about the implication of this regarding the license. Torsten -- Homepage: http://www.in-berlin.de/User/myrkr
Re: Configure Mouse
First, thank you for the quick response. I ran gpmconfig and that seemed to work: it found the mouse and detected the motion and button clicks. Is there a program I can use to test this? I also edited /etc/vga/libvga.config. I commented out the mouse unconfigured line and uncommented the mouse ps/2 line. I saved the file and re-ran vga_solitaire, but still no mouse. My mouse port is a PS/2 port (big connector, 5 pins), but my mouse is a Microsoft mouse (small connector, 6 pins). I use an adapter to make it work. Is this a factor? Greg At 03:22 PM 4/3/99 -0600, you wrote: ktb wrote: Greg Scharrer wrote: I just installed Debian 2.1 on /dev/hdb1 (/dev/hda has Windows 98). I have a K6-233, 32Mb RAM machine. My mainboard manual says my mouse port is a PS/2 Mouse. I installed the IBM PS/2 bus mouse driver during the install. I also tried to install the the Microsoft bus mouse driver but the install failed with a device busy message. When I try to run vga_solitaire to test the mouse, no mouse cursor appears. When I exit the program, I see a message saying my mouse has not been configured. What do I need to do to get my mouse working? My mouse is working fine but doesn't work with vga_solitaire so I don't know if that is the best way to test your mouse. Have you run gpm config yet? That will get your mouse working in console. hth, Kent Kent makes a good point; there are two mouse drivers; one for the console (configured with gpmconfig), and one for the svga stuff (/etc/vga/libvga.conf). -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
New install: net unreachable
Please help, this is a newbie being stupid question I've done several slink installs that have worked fine. I'm trying to install it on my laptop now and am having problems with the system once its installed. Basically everything seems fine but I can't use the network (3c589 pcmcia ethernet). I can ping the machine's own address but pings anywhere else result with ping declaring not allowed... My ifconfig and route table look fine. I know the driver and network is okay because the entire system was nfs installed initially! This problem occurs when I reboot after completing the entire install process. I suspect that I've (unknowingly) installed some sort of ip security program that is not allowing network access, I see things in the boot log like ip paranoia deamon... and others that I don't understand. I used the custom package selection of dinstall. I've carefully done the process twice with the same results. As a newbie, I have no idea how to search the OS to find the offending software if that's the problem. Besides any suggestions on what might be causing this problem, can someone please let me know how I'd (efficiently) go about tracking down offending software in general? TIA, Chris * Chris Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] !!! HELP FIGHT SPAM !!! Join; www.cauce.org See; spam.abuse.net, spamsucks.com, www.cm.org
Re: netscape crashes on mail-to
On 04-Apr-99 George Bonser wrote: The recent 4.51 FINALLY fixed that problem for me. Is there a glibc version of 4.51? I could not find one. -- Andrew [PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37]
Re: Configure Mouse
Greg Scharrer wrote: First, thank you for the quick response. I ran gpmconfig and that seemed to work: it found the mouse and detected the motion and button clicks. Is there a program I can use to test this? I also edited /etc/vga/libvga.config. I commented out the mouse unconfigured line and uncommented the mouse ps/2 line. I saved the file and re-ran vga_solitaire, but still no mouse. My mouse port is a PS/2 port (big connector, 5 pins), but my mouse is a Microsoft mouse (small connector, 6 pins). I use an adapter to make it work. Is this a factor? Greg I'm not sure if the adapter is a factor or not; however, double-check the /etc/vga/libvga.config file to make sure the changes took. I've editted a file a time or two and thought I saved the changes just to find out later that I editted it as a normal user instead of as root, and therefore the file wasn't saved. If that doesn't pan out, you may just need to ask again so someone more knowledgeable than me can answer.
Re: top like drive usage utility?
Chris Brown wrote: Hello everyone, Our drives have occasionally been going nuts with disk access. They would for no reason just start reading the disk and go solid for 10 minutes. Is there a utility like top to check for who or what is accessing the disks? Thanks, Chris If top didn't work for you try, ps aux hth, kent
Re: Confused about Cable modem/ NIC setup
Vaidhy:
Thanks for all your help. The the Net-3-HOWTO combined with some info I
found from my local LUG's mail archives got me going. Everything I had
seemed to be okay, I just added:
route add default gw ${GATEWAY} eth0
to my /etc/init.d/network file and I was able to ping my nameservers.
I've made the changes to Netscape Mail, and now I'm sending this via
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Thanks again.
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Re: Linux installation help
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Cyril Heck wrote: I have an old CD of debian 1.3 and am trying to install packages from there. I just installed debian 2.1 after being downloaded from the internet. This was my first install but everything seemed allright. The problem is it seems the system (linux) doesn't recognize my CD drive, I think because it is a Sony DVD drive. Can I copy the files from the cd to my harddisk and install everything from there ??? Thanx in advance, Cyril Heck I *think* that by the time you get to where it asks for files, the installation routine has already mounted the hard drive, so you should only enter /linux, not /dev/hda1/linux. Doesn' work either:-((( When I type mount in a shell, I just get to see my two linux partitions (/ and swap). And when I try to mount the harddisk in dselect, it says that fat32 is unknown to the kernel...
