Re: [486]
Jorge Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Si me pasa especificaciones de nuevo (borre mensaje anterior) tengo cuatro manuales. Per tenes que darme la mayor cantidad de datos posibles. Te espero. Manual de manejo (o de jumper settings que llaman) para una mainboard con chip bios de American Megatrends y con chipset UMC 8886BF y UMC 8881F. El número de bios reference que me aparece en pantalla es # 41-P400-001437-0010-101094-486AVIP-H. (Confieso que tuve que darle copiar y pegar, que numerito! :-DDD.) Según la pagina de fabricantes que identifica la Amibios, la board fue fabricada por una compañía de nombre HSING TECH ENTERPRISE CO. , LTD. (También tuve que darle copiar y pegar, ;-)) Esta compañía al parecer, no tiene página en Internet y el único enlace que encontré me llevo a www.pcchips.com pero allí no hay ni la foto del dichoso manual. Así que me ví en la necesidad de consultarles a ustedes; si alguien tiene el manual escaneado o algo así, le agradecería muchísimo que me lo enviara vía e-mail. Gracias por adelantado, ZUMBIJUNIOR ICQ UIN # 39552908 Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Re: [RE: [web-ar] Re: [486]]
Sergio Estefan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saludos colisteros! No se si sera para la placa exacta que les esta quitando el sueño, pero tiene una excelente base de datos de placas 486, incluso te envian por mail su configuracion. La direccion: http://members.xoom.com/WEB_HQ/database.html , espero les sirva. Un cordial saludo para todos!. Lamento decirte que ya había visitado esa dirección y no había encontrado mnada sobre la configuración de la Mainboard que no puedo jumpear correctamente, así que me segurá quitando el sueño . :-DDD De cualquier manera gracias por tu intención de sacarme de este atolladero de mier . . . coles ! :-)) Si sabes de otra solución, comunícamela . . . ZUMBIJUNIOR ICQ UIN # 39552908 Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Era: mouse bajo X no responde (solucionado)
El Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 06:42:48PM +0200-6, Juan Ramón Larrea escribio: Hola: Supongo que usarás el protocolo Mouse system en modo consola y en las X. No conozco tu ratón, pero a veces tienen un conmutador para ponerlo en PS o MS, usa la posición PS con ese protocolo, si carece de boton, al arrancar el ordenador ten pulsado el botón para que use el susodicho protocolo. Hola, ya esta solucionado el problema. Estaban en lo cierto acerca de lo poderoso del script xf86config. Usando ademas el gpmconfig pude saber que bajo Debian mi mouse es un MouseMan y no MouseSystem como en RH. Gracias. -- (o_ Horacio Molina //\Com. Riv. - Argentina V_/_ Linux User #120586
Re: Socorro en envio de mails
Hola. El 20 Jun 1999 a las 12:20PM +0200, Hue-Bond escribio: El sábado 19 de junio de 1999 a la(s) 18:39:34 +, Rafael Cordones Marcos contaba: On Fri, Jun 18, 1999 at 09:35:35PM +0200, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote: Puede que como CTV ha cambiado de manos estén haciendo reajustes de hard y se les haya olvidado algo. Offtopic: ¿Los que estéis por CTV notáis una mayor frecuencia de cortes en la conexión desde hace cosa de un mes? En mi caso no, pero si he notado que telefonica hace funcionar mas lenta su infovia plus en Guadalajara desde hace 2 meses y hay dias que comunica varias horas. Saludos -- -- Andres Seco Hernandez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andressh urgente: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Microsoft Certified Product Specialist MCP ID 445900 Debian GNU Linux 2.0 (hamm) - Linux Registered User no. 113867 -- 06/21 Berlin airlift begins, 1948 06/21 Sun rises over Heelstone at Stonehenge 06/22 Civil rights workers disappear in Mississippi, 1964 pgpzUQUyVthMd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xlib6g y perdida de configuracion teclado (XKB).
El Mon, Jun 21, 1999, Xose Manoel Ramos... Bueno, lo he solucionada desinstalando `xfree86-common', paquete del que dependía `xlib6g 3.3.2.3a-11' y reinstalando `xbase' de Hamm... Xose ...La única razón por la que puedes tener problemas con Xose el cambio en las X es que ahora tienes varios paquetes Xose cuando antes tenías sólo un par. Ok. Pero yo no pretendía actualizar las X, que por cierto no iba a solucionarme el problema con mi tarjeta, sino arreglar lo del teclado. Era (es) más cómodo lo que hice que bajar todos los paquetes nuevos y ponerme a actualizar. Si desinstalo la xlib6g de Slink, y xfree86-common, que ésta necesitaba, solo faltaba reinstalar (a partir de CD) el paquete que se había visto afectado por el Replace de algunos archivos del xfree86-common: los de configuración del teclado entre ellos. Y meter el `/etc/X11/Xsession' a mano sí, es chapucero; me gustaría saber qué le impide ponerlo en su sitio a `dpkg', :-? Pero bueno, tampoco me parece algo muy grave, para una instalación de la que solo dependo yo, :-) Xose Esto son los paquetes que tengo instalados de X: Gracias, me va a venir muy bien saberlo cuando aparezca una versión de X que soporte mi tarjeta. Xose xfree86-common Xose xbase-clients Xose xlib6g Xose xserver-common Xose xterm Xose xfonts-100dpi Xose xfonts-75dpi Xose xfonts-base Xose xfonts-scalable Xose ¿Que Notescapes estás usando? A mi no me da ningún Xose problema. Estoy usando el Netscape que venía con Xose RedHat. Normalmente acostumbra a estar mejor que el que Xose te bajas de Netscape. Uso una compilado para libc5, del penúltimo CD de Linux Actual. Y la Xlib6g de Slink me machacaba la oldlib Xlib6 que necesita, de ahí el poglema. Saludines. -- Cosme = -=-=- A través de Debian GNU/Linux -=-=- -=-=- Software Libre -=-=- http://www.linux.org/ S.O. Multi-[plataforma, tarea, usuario] http://www.gnu.org/ Free Software Foundation http://lucas.hispalinux.es/ Documentación en Castellano http://www.openresources.com/es/ Revista Open Resources http://www.es.linuxfocus.org/Castellano/ LinuxFocus =
Re: [RE: [web-ar] Re: [486]]
ZUMBIJUNIOR dixit: ~ Sergio Estefan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~ Saludos colisteros! ( ... ) ~ ZUMBIJUNIOR ~ ICQ UIN # 39552908 No sé si te estás dando cuenta, pero estás enviando a la lista de Debian tu correspondencia con otra(s) lista(s). No te lo tomes a mal, sólo ten un poquito de cuidado y piensa que si todos hicieran como tú, con subscribirnos a sólo un par de listas recibiríamos montones de mensajes provenientes de tropecientas listas. -- Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA
Re: XFree86 3.3.3.1
Jaime E. Villate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A propósito: como se entera uno de la existencia de versiones .deb especiales de los developers sin tener que leer cientos de mensajes diarios en la lista debian-devel? creo que esto salió en un número de Debian Weekly News[1], la excelente publicación semanal editada por Joey Hess, y que se distribuye vía debian-news@lists.debian.org Marcelo [1] http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/issue/
Sobre Sendmail.
Buenas. He quitado el Smail y lo he sustituido por el Sendmail, sólo debido a que tiene la funcionalidad de soportar el fax para el Hylafax. Pero como no tengo puñetera experience con él, estoy más perdio q'un pulpon'lgarage... Desde las estaciones winnt puedo recoger el correo de las cuentas de la máquina, pero cuando digo de enviar algún emilio al server Debian, no hay manera de que entre. En la red tengo otro server de emilios, un Notes, que si me va bien el de Debian, me gustaría poder quitar. Este recibe el correo de Internet, pero previamente lo recoge de un server de nuestro ISP que nos hace relay. ¿Qué debería hacer para poder, como mínimo, enviar emilios al server Debian con el Sendmail? Os dejo atacheado el sendmail.mc y el sendmail.cf para que mireis a ver por dónde puede estar fallando. Muchas gracias por todo. Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets sendmail.cf Description: Binary data sendmail.mc Description: Binary data
kernel 2.2.10 y dselect+apt(cdrom)
Hola, suelo usar apt como método de acceso de dselect (usando el aptcdrom de la Citius) y me iba de maravilla. Sin embargo, desde que he cambiado el kernel desde la version 2.0.36 a la 2.2.10 tengo un problema: Tras haber seleccionado paquetes, cuando dselect me pide que introduzca un CD para copiar los .deb parece que no reconoce el CD porque me vuelve a pedir por el mismo indefinidamente. El CD se monta perfectamente a mano, por lo que montando el CD y haciendo un dpkg -i directamente puedo instalar las cosas, pero me gustaría usar dselect como dios manda... A ver si a alguien se le ocurre algo. Un saludo, Jon
Re: Segundo acceso a X
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Hue-Bond wrote: Curiosamente, si arranco los dos en la misma profundidad de color, WindowMaker se queja de que ya hay otro gestor de ventanas corriendo; sin embargo, si arranco uno en 8 bits y otro en 16, ambos funcionan perfectamente. Alguien sabe por qué? Yo una vez arranqué uno a 1024x768 (16 bits) y otro a 800x600 (32 bits) y las X me petaron estrepitosamente. Curiosamente, alguien ha comentado en la lista que con otro gestor de ventanas (fvwm* ¿?) arrancaba dos gestores correctamente. Problema propio del WindowMaker? :?¿ 'tapronto Iñaki Llona e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://web.jet.es/jillona/ 'Grupo de LinUxuarios de Bizkaia' Clave pública PGP: mandame un mensaje con Subject: Clave publica.
paquetes Obsoletos/locales
Buenas, He actualizado mi Hamm a Citius Slink y desde entonces tengo un monton de paquetes Obsoletos/locales. Que significa esto?? Gracias Iniaki Fernandez
/lib/modules
He actualizado mi Debian a Citius Slink y desde entonces el modo texto de mis tty's no tiraba bien con la sintaxis del teclado castellano. La enie,los acentos y demas no se veian o aparecia otro codigo ascci. El mc tampoco tiraba bien pq. en lugar de lineas aparecian almohadillas '#'. Me imagine que seria por la falta de algun paquete, y efectivamente asi ha sido hasta que no he instalado el kernel-image-2.0.36 con su /lib/modules/2.0.36. Yo tenia y sigo teniendo el kernel 2.2.9 pero desde entonces ya todo me funciona bien. Mi pregunta es, tiene alguna dependencia slink sobre /lib/modules/2.0.36 para que funcione correctamente?? Si alguien puede explicarme lo que ha pasado se lo agradecere. Gracias Iniaki Fdez.
Re: Segundo acceso a X
On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 09:45:23PM +0200, Juan Ignacio Llona wrote: Curiosamente, si arranco los dos en la misma profundidad de color, WindowMaker se queja de que ya hay otro gestor de ventanas corriendo; sin embargo, si arranco uno en 8 bits y otro en 16, ambos funcionan perfectamente. Alguien sabe por qué? Yo una vez arranqué uno a 1024x768 (16 bits) y otro a 800x600 (32 bits) y las X me petaron estrepitosamente. Curiosamente, alguien ha comentado en la lista que con otro gestor de ventanas (fvwm* ¿?) arrancaba dos gestores correctamente. Problema propio del WindowMaker? :?¿ Es posible, al menos con una version vieja (se presentaron problmeas de esta clase cuando la gente trato de correr Window Maker en varios monitores, eventualmente habra soporte correcto y completo para un Window Maker en varios monitores, pero no funciona ahora, si entiendo bien). Acabo de probar con la 0.60.0 y funciona bien, tanto con un servidor SVGA corriendo a 16 bits, como con otro SVGA a 32 bits. Marcelo
Squid y ssl
Hola Yo utilizo el Squid como proxy cache para mi navegacion, hace algunos dias fui a un sitio que trabaja con ssl y al parecer no permite que por el medio exista un proxy. La solucion en ese momento fue desactivar de mi navegador el uso del proxy pero pregunto existe alguna otra forma. Saludos - Humberto Morell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: paquetes Obsoletos/locales
Hola On mar, 22 jun 1999 20:52:26 Iniaki Fernandez Villanueva wrote: He actualizado mi Hamm a Citius Slink y desde entonces tengo un monton de paquetes Obsoletos/locales. Que significa esto?? pues eso, o paquetes que han sido sustituidos por otros (obsoletos) o paquetes .deb que tienes instalados y que no están en los CD's (locales). Los obsoletos que tengas serán paquetes que han cambiado de nombre de hamm a slink o paquetes que han sido separados en otros paquetes diferentes, etc. Como local también podrías tener algun paquete que hubieses actualizado antes y cuya versión sea más moderna que la de slink. Un saludo, Jon
Re: [Fwd: Traducao dos pacotes da Debian] (fwd)
Oi Rafael, Eu acho que agora a Debian-jp vai ser integrada na Debian... Quer dizer que o melhor seria abrir os pacotes e traduzir cada descricao de cada um? Por que traduzir o packages nao ia adiantar? Abracos,PH Rafael Caetano dos Santos wrote: (por que essa lista não seta o Reply-To: ?) - Forwarded message from Eduardo Marcel Macan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:39:36 -0300 From: Eduardo Marcel Macan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rafael Caetano dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Traducao dos pacotes da Debian] X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 11:01:22AM -0300, Rafael Caetano dos Santos wrote: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira writes: (...) Enquanto estivermos traduzindo. Eu vou trabalhar para fazer com que o gnome-apt e o dselect usem as descrições traduzidas... Não leve a mal, mas eu não entendo... vocês vão primeiro começar a traduzir e depois fazer com que funcione? IMHO, o ponto a ser alterado é o dpkg/dpkg-deb, não os front-ends (obviamente, quem faz o código é que acaba decidindo). Pessoalmente eu acho que desperdica esforco, porque no primeiro apt-get update vai tudo embora... a nao ser que voces arranjem espaco para fazermos como no japao, onde foi feito um fork da distribuicao, abram todos os pacotes fonte, traduzam o arquivo de controle de cada um, e gerem o Packages.gz a partir da colecao de pacotes compilados para esta distribuicao. A Debian-jp fez isso, porque ao que me consta japones tem saco grande, ou nao aprenderia a fazer origami ,jogar go e traduzir distribuicoes inteiras e revisando a cada novo pacote incluido. :) No caso do debian-jp eles tem uma aplicacaozinha que faz o switch entre as descricoes originais e as descricoes que eles manteem. O sistema que vai ser usado foi discutido na Debian? (eu já perguntei a que pé andava essa discussão na Debian, mas ninguém respondeu :-( ). Eu achei que tivesse respondido essa. Nao ha um consenso ainda sobre o que deve ser feito. Estou falando isso porque realmente estou interessado na tradução das descrições, mas ainda não vi nenhuma proposta para fazer isso de forma transparente e integrada à Debian. Falta um design consistente para a resolucao do problema. --macan - End forwarded message - bye Rafael Caetano [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian SGML mailing list created (fwd)
Como grande parte da documentação da Debian está em SGML, isso pode interessar a nós: - Forwarded message from Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian SGML mailing list created Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:44:41 +0200 Although it is not yet on http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe or http://www.debian.org/Lists--Archives/, the list is there and works. Here is its description, SGML/XML packagers (and users also) are welcome: debian-sgml Discussion of issues related to SGML on Debian systems with an stress on proper integration of tools, packaging standards and the writing of documentation for SGML users. Therefore relevant for maintainers of SGML related packages. Discussion on the use of SGML packages is fine, too. All aspects of deployment and development relating to SGML and XML in general and particular DTDs, as well as related standards and technologies like DSSSL and XSL, can be discussed here. Moderated: no Subscription: open -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - bye Rafael Caetano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Traducao dos pacotes da Debian] (fwd)
On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 12:44:47PM -0300, Rafael Caetano dos Santos wrote: (por que essa lista não seta o Reply-To: ?) - Forwarded message from Eduardo Marcel Macan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:39:36 -0300 From: Eduardo Marcel Macan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rafael Caetano dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Traducao dos pacotes da Debian] X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 11:01:22AM -0300, Rafael Caetano dos Santos wrote: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira writes: (...) Enquanto estivermos traduzindo. Eu vou trabalhar para fazer com que o gnome-apt e o dselect usem as descrições traduzidas... Não leve a mal, mas eu não entendo... vocês vão primeiro começar a traduzir e depois fazer com que funcione? IMHO, o ponto a ser alterado é o dpkg/dpkg-deb, não os front-ends (obviamente, quem faz o código é que acaba decidindo). Pessoalmente eu acho que desperdica esforco, porque no primeiro apt-get update vai tudo embora... a nao ser que voces arranjem espaco para fazermos como no japao, onde foi feito um fork da distribuicao, abram todos os pacotes fonte, traduzam o arquivo de controle de cada um, e gerem o Packages.gz a partir da colecao de pacotes compilados para esta distribuicao. A Debian-jp fez isso, porque ao que me consta japones tem saco grande, ou nao aprenderia a fazer origami ,jogar go e traduzir distribuicoes inteiras e revisando a cada novo pacote incluido. :) O que eu estava propondo não é fazer um Packages novo, pois a cada apt-get update tudo iria embora. Nos faríamos um arquivo em separado somente com as descrições e quando desse apt-get update, ele nem saberia que o arquivo com as descrições traduzidas existiria. Então alteraríamos o dselect/gnome-apt para usar o arquivo com as descrições traduzidas. Agora foi? Diego Delgado Lages No caso do debian-jp eles tem uma aplicacaozinha que faz o switch entre as descricoes originais e as descricoes que eles manteem. O sistema que vai ser usado foi discutido na Debian? (eu já perguntei a que pé andava essa discussão na Debian, mas ninguém respondeu :-( ). Eu achei que tivesse respondido essa. Nao ha um consenso ainda sobre o que deve ser feito. Estou falando isso porque realmente estou interessado na tradução das descrições, mas ainda não vi nenhuma proposta para fazer isso de forma transparente e integrada à Debian. Falta um design consistente para a resolucao do problema. --macan - End forwarded message - bye Rafael Caetano [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Traducao dos pacotes da Debian] (fwd)
Nao sei mesmo seh eh necessario, de ante mao, preocurmos-nos com as descricoes dos pacotes, pois com a internacionalizacao deverah haver uma serie de pacotes comuns e uma serie de pacotes para cada lingua. A questao eh, nesse momento, a descricao dos pacotes altera em alguma coisa o sistema operacional depois de instalado ou soh o administrador de sistema terah de conhecer um ingles pequeno? nao sei se as preocupacoes nao deveriam estar num aspecto mais estrutural nesse momento inicial. mas eu sou apenas um usuario Debian, e nao gosto da solucao da conectiva para abrasileirar o Red Hat! []'s leo
Fwd: Traducao dos pacotes da Debian
On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 12:44:47PM -0300, Rafael Caetano dos Santos wrote: (por que essa lista não seta o Reply-To: ?) Faço minha tua pergunta! para fazermos como no japao, onde foi feito um fork da distribuicao, abram todos os pacotes fonte, traduzam o arquivo de controle de cada um, e gerem o Packages.gz a partir da colecao de pacotes compilados para esta distribuicao. A Debian-jp fez isso, porque ao que me consta Mas eles estão integrando a JP na principal, correto? Pelo que li, eles somente não fizeram isso antes porque o fuso atrasou em meses os processos de integração deles como desenvolvedores... update tudo iria embora. Nos faríamos um arquivo em separado somente com as descrições e quando desse apt-get update, ele nem saberia que o arquivo com as descrições traduzidas existiria. Então alteraríamos o dselect/gnome-apt para usar o arquivo com as descrições traduzidas. Agora foi? Mais um fork... o que é necessariamente uma solução temporária, que vai ser descartada assim que a distribuição escolher um mecanismo satisfatório. No final das contas não é proibido, mas quem se habilita a fazer um trabalho que não vai permanecer? Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs (Brasil) Ltda
[J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk: Translation of Debian packages]
- Forwarded message from Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: 22 Jun 1999 09:53:09 - Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Translation of Debian packages To: debian-i18n@lists.debian.org ( Debian i18n list) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 01:59:46 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL48 (25)] From: Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Message-Id: HcvfiC.A.g_.E01b3@murphy Resent-From: debian-i18n@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-i18n@lists.debian.org archive/latest/317 X-Loop: debian-i18n@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have just put in place all of the necessary machinery for localising my devscripts package. All I need now is some translations ;) My question: is there some mechanism for announcing such work? Is there a Debian page or team or something? At the moment, my source package has a .pot file, but as it is a Debian local package, I can't see one of the GNU language teams getting in on the act. Julian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://www.debian.org/~jdg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message -
Re: [Fwd: Traducao dos pacotes da Debian] (fwd)
Diego Delgado Lages writes: (...) O que eu estava propondo não é fazer um Packages novo, pois a cada apt-get update tudo iria embora. Nos faríamos um arquivo em separado somente com as descrições e quando desse apt-get update, ele nem saberia que o arquivo com as descrições traduzidas existiria. Então alteraríamos o dselect/gnome-apt para usar o arquivo com as descrições traduzidas. Agora foi? No update, como você sabe se a descrição de cada pacote mudou ou não? E na próxima versão do dselect e gnome-apt, o que você faz? bye Rafael Caetano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Traducao dos pacotes da Debian] (fwd)
Leonardo Ruoso writes: Nao sei mesmo seh eh necessario, de ante mao, preocurmos-nos com as descricoes dos pacotes, pois com a internacionalizacao deverah haver uma serie de pacotes comuns e uma serie de pacotes para cada lingua. Hmm... não entendi. Quais pacotes para cada língua? A questao eh, nesse momento, a descricao dos pacotes altera em alguma coisa o sistema operacional depois de instalado ou soh o administrador de sistema terah de conhecer um ingles pequeno? A descrição de que estamos falando é a que aparece no dselect. Só importa para instalação. mas eu sou apenas um usuario Debian, e nao gosto da solucao da conectiva para abrasileirar o Red Hat! Por que? Eu não conheço bem a Conectiva, mas na internacionalização/localização de pacotes, por exemplo, eles usam o gettext, que é usado por todo mundo, patrocinado pelo Projeto GNU. Não é uma solução deles. O que eles fazem é colocado sob GPL e integrado aos programas originais: nós podemos usar os programas localizados da mesmo jeito. Na verdade, também acontece o contrário: muitas traduções que eles usam são feitos por voluntários, e muitos usam Debian. Apesar de eu preferir a Debian, não entendo porque os usuários da Debian tem tanta hostilidade em relação à Conectiva. bye Rafael Caetano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tradução dos pacotes da Debian
Não sei mesmo se é necessário, de ante mão, preocuparmo-nos com as descrições dos pacotes, pois com a internacionalização deverá haver uma serie de pacotes comuns e uma serie de pacotes para cada língua. Hmm... não entendi. Quais pacotes para cada língua? Que eu saiba, métodos de entrada (para as línguas com muitos caracteres, tipo as do Extremo Oriente); pacotes de dados ou texto, tipo Bíblias, o Manifesto Anarquista, Linux Gazette etc; documentação... Apesar de eu preferir a Debian, não entendo porque os usuários da Debian tem tanta hostilidade em relação à Conectiva. Em parte, por achar que a Red Hat (e portanto a Conectiva) deveriam adotar um sistema de gerenciamento de pacotes mais robusto, a saber o dpkg/apt; e em *grande* parte, necessidade de auto-afirmação! Há outras coisinhas, como tentar vender o sistema como fácil de usar quando ainda não é, mas não acho que isso seja bem verdade. Me parece que quem está fazendo a coisa parecer mais fácil do que realmente é são a M$ e a Apple, não a Red Hat ou a Caldera, e aí o pessoal acaba esperando do GNU/Linux o que a M$ e a Apple *não* fazem! Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs (Brasil) Ltda
upgrading Xfree86
Hi, I am running Debian 2.1 and have X version 3.3.3.2 which doesn't seem to fully support my Trident Providia 9685 video card, so I wanted to upgrade to X version 3.3.3.1. Can anyone please tell me what line I should add to my apt-get source file so that I can run an upgrade of X? Thanks for any help. Shawn Nguyen
Re: Have we been cracked?
On 21-Jun-99 Rahsheen Porter wrote: If you're really paranoid..you should format and start over. Otherwise, start running portsentry and logcheck (search freshmeat). Portsentry will block any host that tries to scan you and logcheck will email you weird log entries. Portsentry has blocked at least 10 hosts since I started running itvery useful. Yes, I agree. I use those two (logcheck and portsentry) together. Portsentry has stopped several attacks for me. -- Andrew
pcmcia problem after upgrade
I am sure this has come up before, but I can't find the answer in the archives. I just upgraded from 2.0 - 2.1 via apt-get. Everything seemed to go smoothly, but the new card services won't recognize my ethernet card. It's a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 PC Card (not Cardbus). I get a middle tone and low tone when inserting the card. I checked and it seems to be using the right IRQ. Any suggestions? Michael
Re: Ethernet card problems
Thanks guys, My card works fine nowI rechecked the cable(I hadn't thought this might be a problem as it worked when I booted into W98) and used the dos utility to specify a BNC connector, and now the card works fine Yeeh Manny. Venu wrote: hi manuel i had similar problems ..the solution 1. check the ethernet cable is connected properly (i have this problem 80% of the time !!) 2. make sure ..especially in the case of an ISA card, that u r using the correct IRQ and IO address... use the DOS Utility of the card to check this... as on linux... the card driver sometimes gets installed even if the irq is specified wrongly 3. if the card is a combo BNC + UTP, in some cases, the driver is not able to switch on the correct interface.. so this may be fixed using the Ethernet card DOS utility to specify the same eth0: EtherExpress 16 at 0x300 (IRQ 5, RJ45 connector, 16-bit bus, 32k RAM) eth0: TDR reports transceiver problem from this .. the problem may probably be option 2 above... check it out ! let me know how it works out.. cherio venu Hi there, I have an Intel Ether Express 16 ISA card and I'm trying to get it to work with linux. Linux seems to detect the card ok, but after detection on boot up I get the message: eth0: TDR reports transceiver problem The dos diagnostics program for the card indicates that everything is OK, and it seems to work fine with Windows 98I have included my boot message,...followed by the result of ifconfig... Any help is appreciated, Thanx, Manuel -- Memory: sized by int13 088h Console: 16 point font, 400 scans Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63) pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fad40 pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfb1c0 pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb1f0 Probing PCI hardware. Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 53.25 BogoMIPS Memory: 30216k/32768k available (1136k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1032k data) Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting. Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok. Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled. alias mapping IDT readonly ... ... done Linux version 2.0.36 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #2 Sun Feb 21 15:55:27 EST 1999 Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2 Real Time Clock Driver v1.09 tpqic02: Runtime config, $Revision: 0.4.1.5 $, $Date: 1994/10/29 02:46:13 $ tpqic02: DMA buffers: 20 blocks, at address 0x282600 (0x28254c) Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size loop: registered device at major 7 ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007 ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f hdc: IBM-DAQA-32160, 2067MB w/96kB Cache, CHS=4200/16/63, DMA hdd: TATUNG CD-652E, ATAPI CDROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card! scsi : 0 hosts. scsi : detected total. Partition check: hdc: [PTBL] [525/128/63] hdc1 hdc2 hdc3 hdc4 hdc5 hdc6 hdc7 hdc8 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Adding Swap: 12060k swap-space (priority -1) Adding Swap: 16092k swap-space (priority -2) Module inserted $Id: cdrom.c,v 0.8 1996/08/10 10:52:11 david Exp $ eth0: EtherExpress 16 at 0x300 (IRQ 5, RJ45 connector, 16-bit bus, 32k RAM) eth0: TDR reports transceiver problem Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A -- loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Collisions:0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:AA:00:3C:20:89 inet addr:192.168.0.20 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6 errors:6 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:6 Collisions:0 Interrupt:5 Base address:0x300 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] D-Link DE-650 - PCMCIA
Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] D-Link DE-650 - PCMCIA Date: Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 11:49:27PM +0800 In reply to:Paul Harris Quoting Paul Harris([EMAIL PROTECTED]): does anyone know if the kernel supports this card? i only saw options for the de-600 to de-620. I use one. It says NE2000 compatible when you plug it in. I guess people get bored with adding new model numbers when they're basically similar underneath. What's far more important is the controller chipset in the laptop. For example I can now use the ti1220 in slink whereas I had to compile the sources from csb.stanford.edu with hamm. However, I can't install from scratch even in slink because the installation program only offers the choice of i82365 and tcic. This made installation quite tough as the slink installation kernel also has no ppa support. i'm trying to compile a 2.2.10 kernel for it, but I can't find the option for Pcmcia NE2000 compatible support for the apne.o module. Its in the Configure.help file... or is there another way of doing things for pcmcia? (i've only worked with desktops up until now). when does the controller chipset come into things? how does that work? thanks, Paul Paul I foune the following in /usr/src/linux/net/netsyms.c #if defined(CONFIG_ULTRA) || defined(CONFIG_WD80x3) || \ defined(CONFIG_EL2) || defined(CONFIG_NE2000) || \ defined(CONFIG_E2100) || defined(CONFIG_HPLAN_PLUS) || \ defined(CONFIG_HPLAN) || defined(CONFIG_AC3200) || \ defined(CONFIG_ES3210) || defined(CONFIG_ULTRA32) || \ defined(CONFIG_LNE390) || defined(CONFIG_NE3210) || \ defined(CONFIG_NE2K_PCI) || defined(CONFIG_APNE) || \ defined(CONFIG_DAYNAPORT) /* If 8390 NIC support is built in, we will need these. */ EXPORT_SYMBOL(ei_open); EXPORT_SYMBOL(ei_close); EXPORT_SYMBOL(ei_interrupt); EXPORT_SYMBOL(ethdev_init); EXPORT_SYMBOL(NS8390_init); #endif If it was me I would add CONFIG_APNE to the .config file and try recompiling. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. It seem that someone may have missed it. HTH, YMMV, HAND -- C, n.: A programming language that is sort of like Pascal except more like assembly except that it isn't very much like either one, or anything else. It is either the best language available to the art today, or it isn't. -- Ray Simard ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unknown message
scratch wrote: IIRC, this message probably means that you have recently updated to a 2.2 kernel. In this kernel, ifconfig sets it own routes, so there is no more need for a manual 'route add'. Check your init.d scripts, especially '/etc/init.d/network'. OTOH, I could be completely wrong here, and this message seems like the thing i described, but really isn't and you *are* trying to set a wrong route. I get this message too. Last night I was searching the archives on dmesg and this error message came up several times. From some of the postings, it would seem that you're right. There was a fix--commenting out some line or another. I forgot what exactly and I haven't gone back to take another look. A search on SIOCADDRT would turn up those fixes though. hth -- __ _ Mark Wagnon Debian GNU/ -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ http://www.debian.org
Re: upgrading Xfree86
Shawn == Shawn Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shawn Hi, ShawnI am running Debian 2.1 and have X version 3.3.3.2 Shawn which doesn't seem to fully support my Trident Providia 9685 Shawn video card, so I wanted to upgrade to X version 3.3.3.1. Can Shawn anyone please tell me what line I should add to my apt-get Shawn source file so that I can run an upgrade of X? Thanks for Shawn any help. This should work. (BTW it was in /usr/doc/apt/examples) deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free -- Laurent Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading Xfree86
Shawn Nguyen wrote: Hi, I am running Debian 2.1 and have X version 3.3.3.2 which doesn't seem to fully support my Trident Providia 9685 video card, so I wanted to upgrade to X version 3.3.3.1. Can anyone please tell me what line I should add to my apt-get source file so that I can run an upgrade of X? Thanks for any help. Shawn, add deb http://ftp.netgod.net x/ and you'll be good as gold hth -- __ _ Mark Wagnon Debian GNU/ -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ http://www.debian.org
Re: diald -- help or source!
In the message log I see that it attempts to open the connection, and immediately reports that the connection script failed. It doesn't seem to access the modem or anything. Please post the script, the log, and /etc/diald/diald.options. I can't get chat to run a simple connect script either. What do you mean by that? I'm not afraid to get into it with a debugger and really screw things up No need for that. I'm sure you just have a configuration error. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: upgrading Xfree86
*- On 22 Jun, Laurent Martelli wrote about Re: upgrading Xfree86 Shawn == Shawn Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shawn Hi, Shawn I am running Debian 2.1 and have X version 3.3.3.2 Shawn which doesn't seem to fully support my Trident Providia 9685 Shawn video card, so I wanted to upgrade to X version 3.3.3.1. Can Shawn anyone please tell me what line I should add to my apt-get Shawn source file so that I can run an upgrade of X? Thanks for Shawn any help. This should work. (BTW it was in /usr/doc/apt/examples) deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free I don't think he wanted to go to unstable, just to the latest X packages for slink. For the latest X packages for slink one should use the packages at ftp.netgod.net. deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/ -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: startx
On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Chris Flipse wrote: Is there a way to set up startx so that it will open on a specified tty (say, tty 13) instead of the next available one? I know it can be done with the various x login apps, but I've had some bad experiences with xdm and wdm locking up my box, and I prefer not to take that chance. :) Okay, I've got xdm/startx (depending upon whether I want to have xdm chewing up cycles or not) running off vt9... I've gone and looked for the configuration file for doing just that... and well... I cannot find it! I'll email you again if I can find it... :-(
RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
Hi all: I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available downloads (neither free, nor Plus). Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin ... without money one gets nothing in this world, not even a certificate of eternal blessedness in the other world... (S. Kierkegaard)
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Greetings..I purchased Debian 2.1 from the UTArlington bookstore. I thought that it was 2.0 originally, because that's what the manual said, but then the people who work there opened it up, and it has 4 2.1 disks: 2 binaries, 2 sources. So I'm having problems installing it.. First thing I did was use my old Linux to dd a resc1440.bin to disk. Booting off of that, it detects my IDE CDROM on /dev/hdd just fine. My problems seem to stem from the fact that there are 2 binary disks. When I get to the dselect step, I choose for my Access method Multi-CD. But nowhere in the subsequent parts of installation does it tell me Insert disk 1 or 2 .. So how the hell am I supposed to do this? If you want this to be more user friendly, there needs to be a message telling the user at what point to change the CDROM. Going to another VT, I notice that it actually mounts the cdrom on /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt. So it would have to unmount it before mounting the next (#2) CD. Whatever the problem is, I am pretty frustrated that I can't figure it out on my own. I've successfuly run Slackware and Redhat in the past, and consider myself an intermediate-level programmer. Since I've had experience with Linux before, surely a new user couldn't install debian ... I chose Debian because 1. I wanted to try something new 2. I had heard that it is more stable than redhat--redhat always upgrades their packages no matter what, and debian chooses the stable versions of packages (hearsay on my part) 3. I had hoped that it could upgrade itsef automatically from the net, as new versions of debian came out. 4. It's less commercial and more free (vs. Redhat) Another confusing part is that after the packages are installed, it goes and configures each one...some of these things it is configuring I've never heard of before. Again, a new user would have significant problems here. Luckily, I have 2 6 GIG hard drives, so I can install a new debian without destroying my old one. With the old one, I chose some kind of default install, and seemed to get it to work OK (it's what I'm typing it on now). I was able to compile a new kernel (what is the debian way to do this?!?! I had a .tar.gz file with kernel sources in usr/src..am I supposed to install it through dselect or dpkg??), and compile x11amp (after compiling glib and gtk+). With the new one, I couldn't compile glib in order to get x11amp to compile...again, pretty frustrating. I had to set up the symlinks in /usr/include/linux /usr/include/asm manually (a new user would have no idea). Also, I use a unique way to get on the internet. I dial into my school's terminal server, login to it, and then telnet freeshell.org, where I can login, and run slirp. In the past, I had done this manually each time I wanted a ppp connection (hey, it's trouble, but I pay $0.00/year for it!). Under my old slackware system, I had automated this procedure with a complicated chat script - it is tricky, for when you first connect to the uTA terminal server, you have to wait a few seconds and then press enter to 'wake it up'. So I had to read the chat man page to figure this all out. Whatever, I had created a shell script to run pppd and call my chatscript from within pppd. Now, debian doesn't seem to like my shellscript- or maybe it's just my modem. I have a USR Courier external (Win98 detects it as a 'courier v.everything modem'), which has been supposedly upgraded to 56K by a good Unix friend of mine. Definitely it is NOT a winmodem. I use Netzero under Windows 98, and it connects most of the time unelss NetZero is having a server problem.. I looked at its (modem) properties and there was no modem init string, only boxes were checkmarked that said error correction enable and data compression enabled, and of course hardware flow control. So under linux, I always first do a /sbin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 spd_vhi I am wondering if anybody else uses this modem, and can gve me a good iinit string to use with it. One strange thing is, under Windows,sometimes it connects at 56K, but I have yet to ever get it to work under linux at 56K (max connect speed shows 33600)
Re: startx
On Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 11:51:56PM -0400, Chris Flipse wrote: Is there a way to set up startx so that it will open on a specified tty (say, tty 13) instead of the next available one? I know it can be done with the various x login apps, but I've had some bad experiences with xdm and wdm locking up my box, and I prefer not to take that chance. :) To be annoyingly pedantic, it's not startx itself that starts on a tty, but the X server itself. startx is a shell script wrapper around the xinit program (which is written in C), which is what actually starts the X server (say, XF86_SVGA). On a Debian system there is yet one more level of indirection, as xinit actually calls our X server wrapper, /usr/X11R6/bin/X, which then executes the X server. Now, aren't you sorry you asked? :) At any rate, you guessed correctly that you can tell startx what virtual terminal you want the server to start on. Try this: startx -- vt13 The double dash is important; don't leave it out. -- G. Branden Robinson | One man's theology is another man's Debian GNU/Linux | belly laugh. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Heinlein cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpLBRMUe4B6h.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ld/Xm/Xt question
On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 07:21:14AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks ago I wrote and asked about a problem with X on Slink. Due to the under whelming response (including the developers list, except for Oleg who did give me some useful info) I upgraded to XFree 3.3.3 from the netgod.net site. My test case, at first it appeared to fix the problem but my main app was still broken. I noticed by reading the straces of the application runs that on my test case that worked I had -lXm before -lXt, and the main app had -lXT -lXm on the compile line. Both cases compiled cleanly, without warnings or errors, just the app with -lXt -lXm would seg fault and with -lXm -lXt the app would run sucessfully. In general the order of the -l options is important, at least if you have interlibrary dependencies, which is almost always the case with X applications. The highest level libraries are listed first, followed by lower level libraries until at the end you have libraries that do not depend on anything else (except maybe the C library, which is linked by default except in unusual circumstances). Consider the output of gtk-config --libs: -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm Here we see that we high-level GTK+ and GDK libraries come first, followed by intermediate libs, and finally wrapping up with libX11 (the core X protocol library) and the math library, which of course won't be needing any symbols from fancy GUI libraries. -- G. Branden Robinson |A committee is a life form with six or Debian GNU/Linux |more legs and no brain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Robert Heinlein cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpKJIfgnBnYt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: startx
On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Chris Flipse wrote: Is there a way to set up startx so that it will open on a specified tty (say, tty 13) instead of the next available one? I know it can be done with the various x login apps, but I've had some bad experiences with xdm and wdm locking up my box, and I prefer not to take that chance. :) I think I may be suffering from this. Every so often (it used to be rare, but just recently it's started to happen almost every time I boot, within a few minutes of booting) my machine will freeze up completely. The screen either goes grey or gets vertical stripes (or occasionally different patterns). Ctrl-alt-F? do nothing, neither does Ctrl-alt-Bksp or Ctrl-alt-del. I have one of those danged intelligent power buttons, so that doesn't work either. Unfortunately the machine isn't networked so I can't tell you if it is really dead or just all keyboard input is disabled. I am running the latest of everything as of a few days ago from unstable, and I have xdm managing both tty7 and tty8. My kernel is the kernel-package version of 2.2.7 - I want to recompile it but I haven't had a chance yet. Please, please, can anybody suggest a particular package or set of packages that could be downgraded to fix this? Also any way to keep the machine alive long enough to do the downgrade? TIA, Stuart.
Re: diald -- help or source!
From: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tracy Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 20:41 Subject: Re: diald -- help or source! In the message log I see that it attempts to open the connection, and immediately reports that the connection script failed. It doesn't seem to access the modem or anything. Please post the script, the log, and /etc/diald/diald.options. My connection script is simple editing of the original to whit: +++ MODEM_INIT=ATZC1D2%C0 connect 130 lines, 3693 characters # The phone number to dial # PHONE_NUMBER=5551212 PHONE_NUMBER=6109433278 # The chat sequence to recognize that the remote system # is asking for your user name. # USER_CHAT_SEQ=name:--name:--name:--name:--name:--name:--name: USER_CHAT_SEQ=ogin:--ogin:--ogin:--ogin:--ogin:--ogin:--ogin: # The string to send in response to the request for your user name. USER_NAME=tnelson # The chat sequence to recongnize that the remote system # is asking for your password. PASSWD_CHAT_SEQ=word: # The string to send in response to the request for your password. PASSWORD=*elided* # The prompt the remote system will give once you are logged in # If you do not define this then the script will assume that # there is no command to be issued to start up the remote protocol. PROMPT=tion } # Initialize the modem. Usually this just resets it. message Initializing Modem chat $DEBUG TIMEOUT 5 $MODEM_INIT TIMEOUT 5 OK if [ $? != 0 ]; then message Failed to initialize modem exit 1 fi # Dial the remote system. message Dialing system chat $DECONNECT HONE_NUMBER \ case $? in 0) message Connected;; 1) message Chat Error; exit 1;; 2) message Chat Script Error; exit 1;; 3) message Chat Timeout; exit 1;; 4) message No Carrier; exit 1;; 5) message Busy; exit 1;; 6) message No DialTone; exit 1;; 7) message Modem Error; exit 1;; *) esac exit 1 fi fi if [ $START_ACK != ]; then chat $DEBUG TIMEOUT 15 $START_ACK if [exit 1e Failed to start Protocol fi fi # Success! message Protocol started === The log file is pretty simple, just: +++ Jun 21 09:12:48 spicerack diald[24824]: Running connect (pid = 24973). Jun 21 09:12:48 spicerack diald[24824]: Connect script failed. Jun 21 09:12:49 spicerack diald[24824]: Delaying 30 seconds before clear to dial . === My options file looks like this: +++ mode ppp connect /etc/diald/connect device /dev/ttyS0 speed 115200 modem lock crtscts local 10.0.0.3 remote 192.168.0.2 dynamic defaultroute include /etc/diald/standard.filter === I can't get chat to run a simple connect script either. What do you mean by that? Whenever I try something simple like chat -V 'ATZ' I get no response for several seconds (I suspect a timeout) and if I ^C during this time I get an I/O operation incomplete error (or something like that). Thanks very much for any clues anyone can drop in my general direction! Cheers! -- Tracy
RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
It's there, I got it, It works... You should get the RedHat RPM version, put it in /tmp and the let the debian installation script at it. On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:26:22 Arcady Genkin wrote: | Hi all: | | I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for | Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available | downloads (neither free, nor Plus). | | Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? | | Thanks! | -- | Arcady Genkin | ... without money one gets nothing in this world, not even a certificate | of eternal blessedness in the other world... (S. Kierkegaard) | | | -- | Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null | | Eric G. Miller Powered by the A HREF=http://www.debian.org;POTATO/A!
Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
I poked around and found this link, http://proforma.real.com/mario/player/player.html hth, kent Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available downloads (neither free, nor Plus). Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin ... without money one gets nothing in this world, not even a certificate of eternal blessedness in the other world... (S. Kierkegaard) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
APT 0.3.7 slink packages at netgod.net; potato packages in archive
Packages for APT 0.3.7 built for the 'slink' (Debian 2.1, based on GNU libc 2.0) distribution have been uploaded to netgod.net, and are available at: http://netgod.net/x/apt_0.3.7slink0_i386.deb http://netgod.net/x/libapt-pkg-dev_0.3.7slink0_i386.deb http://netgod.net/x/libapt-pkg-doc_0.3.7slink0_i386.deb The 0.3.7 packages for potato (the upcoming Debian 2.2, based on GNU libc 2.1) have been installed into the main Debian archives and should be available on the mirrors worldwide soon, and are available now at: http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/admin/apt.html Happy APTing! Ben Gertzfield, Debian APT Team -- Brought to you by the letters J and X and the number 15. Elate means having wings. Debian GNU/Linux maintainer of Gimp and GTK+ -- http://www.debian.org/
Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
Sorry, just butting in... On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Eric G . Miller wrote: It's there, I got it, It works... You should get the RedHat RPM version, put it in /tmp and the let the debian installation script at it. WHERE? I got given a URL a little while back for a possible site for the linux version of Realplayer g2... the documentation was in spanish, so I had no idea on why it just segfaulted on me... but anyhow, that url didn't work. And realplayers site lists the FREE version of realplayer (for unix-likesystems, INCLUDING Redhat) as being only available in 5.0. What are us people doing wrong at www.real-audio.com? I've tried refreshing the page recently (unless it was locked in the proxy server) to no avail... If your version works, could you just email it to me then? I can't for the life of me figure out why I cannot see it if a lot of people can see it at real-audio, but some of us cannot... On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:26:22 Arcady Genkin wrote: | Hi all: | | I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for | Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available | downloads (neither free, nor Plus). | | Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? | | Thanks! | --
Device Driver Problem Again
I still haven't got the answer about how to configuring device drivers for my computer. Could anyone tell me how to chose the modules when I run modconf. Or where to get the install guide for this problem. Thanks! My hardware as below: quantum 7.4G IDE HD 1.44Mb Floppy Disk 8 Mb Leadtek Winfast 3D L2300 Vedio card 128Mb Ram Atapi IDE CD-ROM Phil Phil
Re: pine 4.10 .deb
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: A couple months ago somebody from this list got permission to distribute the modified Pine binary in .deb format. He made this file available for ftp. Does anybody know where I can get this file? I checked the list archives and found lots of discussion regarding Pine, but I couldn't find a link to the actual file. I know it exists because I downloaded it for my home machine at one point. i don't know about a binary deb, but the source packages are available from your favorite Debian mirror, in the debian/project/experimental directory. 1) download the foo.orig.tar.gz, foo.diff.gz, and foo.dsc files 2) dpkg-source -x foo.dsc 3) cd foo 4) debian/rules binary (as root, or sudone or fakerooted) 5) dpkg -i ../foo.deb
Re: X-Server for AGP-7410 (Intel740 chipset)?
Redhat has one, check their ftp server. I found it in the XBF* folder, it eventually will be included in X version 4. I used it last year, works quite well. HTH, Wim. Revenant wrote: Well, after lengthy stuffing about I got X running. Yay! Unfortunately, I had to enter my VGA card as an unsupported VGA card and it's not happy with higher than 640x480, 8-bit colour. Does anyone know if there's an X-Server compatible with an AGP-7410 card (with Intel740 chipset) or conversely if there's another way to improve my resolution? Thanx. -- Revenant [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Why use a keyboard layout deliberately designed to be slow and awkward? For a faster, more comfortable and free layout try Dvorak. http://members.xoom.com/Aggie97/DVORAK.HTML for more information. http://www.dvorakint.org/ for lotsa links. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Wim Kerkhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canadianhomes.net/wimbegin:vcard n:Kerkhoff;Wim tel;fax:604-795-2935 tel;home:604-795-7419 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.canadianhomes.net/wim adr:;;43810 Chilliwack Mountain Road;Chilliwack;BC;V2R 4A1;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Student note:http://www.canadianhomes.net/wim x-mozilla-cpt:;-960 fn:Wim Kerkhoff end:vcard
New windows
Hi, I came from MS Windows to Linux a few months ago. I was tired of crashes and all that, and I had the feeling I could do better GUI-wise also. After a while I found Windowmaker, and set up a desktop with several handy dock apps. A refreshingly approach to a personal desktop environment. Also, Windowmaker looks good! So different from MS, and yet very easy to configure and use. Then I see that the big hype these days is KDE and Gnome. I have tried them both and felt I was taking one step back towards what I left. I just do not undetstand why the Linux community are working against a wm standard that is not based on what seems truly unique and well layed out: The nextish look. Instead I am again presented with the taskbar and popup menus that hasn't really changed for years. Is this to conquer new users, or is it becuase Linux users secretly have missed the look and feel of MS Windows? And in Debian Windowmaker is presented as: Yet another Windowmanager when it is actually GNOME and KDE that to me feels and looks like yet another... --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- Clones are people two
RE: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
On 22-Jun-99 Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available downloads (neither free, nor Plus). Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? Try http://proforma.real.com/mario/tools/producer.html?wp=699toolssrc=prod -- Andrew
RE: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
On 22-Jun-99 Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available downloads (neither free, nor Plus). Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? Thanks! A better one than the last one I gave is: http://www.real.com/products/player/index.html?src=dlbutton_all
Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I poked around and found this link, http://proforma.real.com/mario/player/player.html Hmmm... It worked just the same as the main web-site for me. It says This platform is only supported in RealPlayer 5.0 When I choose G2, Linux - ELF or Linux-RedHat, Pentium-class CPU English for download options. Is there a 'magic' combination or am I totally missing something? ;^) I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available downloads (neither free, nor Plus). Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? -- Arcady Genkin ... without money one gets nothing in this world, not even a certificate of eternal blessedness in the other world... (S. Kierkegaard)
RE: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
On 22-Jun-99 Pollywog wrote: On 22-Jun-99 Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available downloads (neither free, nor Plus). Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? Thanks! A better one than the last one I gave is: http://www.real.com/products/player/index.html?src=dlbutton_all It seems that they deceive us, because when the links are clicked, we are told that only RealPlayer 5.0 will work on the platform of our choice. -- Andrew
Re: Device Driver Problem Again
Phil Wu wrote: I still haven't got the answer about how to configuring device drivers for my computer. Could anyone tell me how to chose the modules when I run modconf. Or where to get the install guide for this problem. Thanks! My hardware as below: quantum 7.4G IDE HD 1.44Mb Floppy Disk 8 Mb Leadtek Winfast 3D L2300 Vedio card 128Mb Ram Atapi IDE CD-ROM phil, if you`re on the way of installing slink, then i see no necessity to install any driver. during installation your quantum and your cd-rom should be recognized, and the standard-kernel supports - afaik - both. one problem could be your video-card, if you decide to configure X with XF86Setup. this card is unknown to me and i don`t know, if it`s supported. but for the moment, the normal vga mode should work. hafi
Re: rant about installing form CD
Subjects are a good thing ;) On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Corey Carroll wrote: Greetings..I purchased Debian 2.1 from the UTArlington bookstore. I thought that it was 2.0 originally, because that's what the manual said, but then the people who work there opened it up, and it has 4 2.1 disks: 2 binaries, 2 sources. Don't know too much about installing from CDs (i installed from floppy images downloaded from www.debian.org, then upgraded over the net), so i can't help with this. I'm sure others will answer these concerns... I chose Debian because 1. I wanted to try something new Good reason! 2. I had heard that it is more stable than redhat--redhat always upgrades their packages no matter what, and debian chooses the stable versions of packages (hearsay on my part) Don't know much about this, although i consider Debian's package management and stability much nicer. 3. I had hoped that it could upgrade itsef automatically from the net, as new versions of debian came out. It can! And very easily, too. 4. It's less commercial and more free (vs. Redhat) Not sure about this one either. Another confusing part is that after the packages are installed, it goes and configures each one...some of these things it is configuring I've never heard of before. Again, a new user would have significant problems here. When i first installed, i was completely new to Linux. i just accepted the defaults for everything when it was first installed, and changed things later as i figured out how they worked. i don't think a new user would have many problems here... Luckily, I have 2 6 GIG hard drives, so I can install a new debian without destroying my old one. With the old one, I chose some kind of default install, and seemed to get it to work OK (it's what I'm typing it on now). i did something like that with my initial Debian install... Standard workstation or something like that. I was able to compile a new kernel (what is the debian way to do this?!?! I had a .tar.gz file with kernel sources in usr/src..am I supposed to install it through dselect or dpkg??), Read the Debian FAQ, Section 11 tells about recompiling the kernels. The was i usually do it, i download the source or patch from kernel.org, put it in /usr/src (or copy and patch the old tree). Then i use make-kpkg from the kernel-package package. and compile x11amp (after compiling glib and gtk+). It's xmms now ;) And i must say, the default skin in 0.9.1 looks _very_ nice! (the default skin in 0.9, on the other hand, is very ugly) With the new one, I couldn't compile glib in order to get x11amp to compile...again, pretty frustrating. Because the version in stable was too low for xmms, right? Stable is just that: not bleeding edge, but software that's been tested and proven to work without any major bugs. I follow the unstable tree (obligatory warning: unstable could easily hose my system and erase my hard drive, or have less-serious breakage. i have been warned. i also file bug reports.), which has the latest glib and gtk+ libraries and headers and gave me no problem in compiling xmms 0.9.1. If you didn't want to move to unstable, you could always grab the sources from the unstable tree and compile them into deb files on your slink system. It's an easy process (as long as you have all the proper -dev headers installed...) Read section 7.13 of the Debian FAQ for details. I had to set up the symlinks in /usr/include/linux /usr/include/asm manually (a new user would have no idea). Actually, you did it wrong. On a Debian system, the libc6-dev package provides known functional versions of those headers, instead of symlinking into a kernel source tree. For more details and rationale, read the debian.README.gz file from any kernel-headers package, or the /usr/lib/kernel-package/README.headers file installed with kernel-package. Also, I use a unique way to get on the internet. I dial into my school's terminal server, login to it, and then telnet freeshell.org, [[[SNIP]]] script to run pppd and call my chatscript from within pppd. Now, debian doesn't seem to like my shellscript- You could try posting the script and the error it generates, along with the desrciption of its purpose that i snipped. (max connect speed shows 33600) Where do you find the max connect speed in Linux? i've been looking, and i can't find where to find it!
Re: pine 4.10 .deb
I forgot to mention, you need the dpkg-dev package installed, as well as the -dev packages for the needed libraries. Sorry! On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Brad wrote: i don't know about a binary deb, but the source packages are available from your favorite Debian mirror, in the debian/project/experimental directory. 1) download the foo.orig.tar.gz, foo.diff.gz, and foo.dsc files 2) dpkg-source -x foo.dsc 3) cd foo 4) debian/rules binary (as root, or sudone or fakerooted) 5) dpkg -i ../foo.deb
[Application] disassembler
Hi all, I'm wandering if there is any disassembler for x86 going around. Would anybody kindly give me some information about this. Thanks in advance. -- Nguyen Hai Ha, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graduate School of Informatics, Kyoto University, Japan
Re: How to determine local IP
scratch wrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, R. Brock Lynn wrote: /sbin/ifconfig | grep P-t-P | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d -f1 nice, now can you do that with a perl one-liner? :) Something like this? perl -e 'print (`/sbin/ifconfig` =~ /inet addr:(.*?)\s/);' oohh nifty. Now let's see if I can figure out how it works. :) (no don't tell me now! I took the usenix perl tutorials... I should know... :\ --Brock - PGP key ID: FED76A3D [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4 / 5 / 1999 __ _Debian GNU R. Brock Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ http://www.debian.org/ irc.openprojects.net / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / 'Free Software' / /__| | | | | |_| | Remember that's Free as in Freedom, not Free as \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ in price! Debian's the Greatest!
Re: How to determine local IP
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, scratch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, R. Brock Lynn wrote:
/sbin/ifconfig | grep P-t-P | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d -f1
nice, now can you do that with a perl one-liner? :)
Something like this?
perl -e 'print (`/sbin/ifconfig` =~ /inet addr:(.*?)\s/);'
Beat me to it! Oh well, i can clean it up to make it work right...
perl -e 'print (`/sbin/ifconfig` =~ /inet addr:(.*?)\s P-t-P:/, \n);'
Or how about one for every interface? This seems to work...
perl -e 'for(`/sbin/ifconfig`){/^\S+/ and $i=$ or /inet addr:(\S+)/ and
print$i\t$1\n}'
If you don't want the interface name, it gets even shorter:
perl -e 'for(`/sbin/ifconfig`){/inet addr:(\S+)/ and print$1\n}'
Re: Have we been cracked?
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Rahsheen Porter wrote: Portsentry will block any host that tries to scan you Does it detect spoofed packets? For example, if someone detected you're using portsentry (because their scan didn't work?), could they spoof packets to make it look like your gateway machine was scanning you, and thereby make you cut yourself off from the 'net?
Re: Movie editing software
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Tomas Meyaos wrote: Greetings everyone. hi! is there any movie editing software available for linux?? I dont need anything complicated just need to sequence a bunch of pictures into an mpeg movie or something like that.no effects just sequencing a bunch of images and the like. Have you looked at the ucbmpeg package from non-free? i've used mpeg_encode before, and it worked very nicely for creating an mpeg movie from a sequence of tiff images (other image types can also be used).
A little confused with Netscape .deb's
Hi all: Could someone tell me which .debs I should install to have Netscape browser-only on a Slink machine? Is it the netscape-base package? As far as I found out, versions =4.5 can be found in unstable, right? Can there be any problem because Slink has glibc-2.0, and potato -- 2.1? Also, is there a browser-only 4.6? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin ... without money one gets nothing in this world, not even a certificate of eternal blessedness in the other world... (S. Kierkegaard)
FAQ: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
apt-get install realplayer It's that simple. You will be told what to get and where. Why do people keep asking this FAQ and making it so hard on themselves? Peter Ludwig wrote: Sorry, just butting in... On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Eric G . Miller wrote: It's there, I got it, It works... You should get the RedHat RPM version, put it in /tmp and the let the debian installation script at it. WHERE? I got given a URL a little while back for a possible site for the linux version of Realplayer g2... the documentation was in spanish, so I had no idea on why it just segfaulted on me... but anyhow, that url didn't work. And realplayers site lists the FREE version of realplayer (for unix-likesystems, INCLUDING Redhat) as being only available in 5.0. What are us people doing wrong at www.real-audio.com? I've tried refreshing the page recently (unless it was locked in the proxy server) to no avail... If your version works, could you just email it to me then? I can't for the life of me figure out why I cannot see it if a lot of people can see it at real-audio, but some of us cannot... On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:26:22 Arcady Genkin wrote: | Hi all: | | I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for | Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available | downloads (neither free, nor Plus). | | Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? | | Thanks! | -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- see shy jo
Slang1 problem with Dosemu in upgrade to Potato
When I try to run Dosemu 98.7-1 on Potato, it fails with this message: ERROR: slang_keyb_close(): failed to restore keyboard termios settings! As far as I can tell my setup is the same, and I upgraded the slang1 package ( 1.3), 1.2.2-0) along with others that are needed. Has anyone else had this problem who can clue me in? Thanks. Curt Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Have we been cracked?
On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 11:50:51PM -0500, Brad wrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Rahsheen Porter wrote: Portsentry will block any host that tries to scan you Does it detect spoofed packets? For example, if someone detected you're using portsentry (because their scan didn't work?), could they spoof packets to make it look like your gateway machine was scanning you, and thereby make you cut yourself off from the 'net? No, cuz you can tell it hosts that it should never block. -- Rahsheen Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 2464469
Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
On 21 Jun 1999, Arcady Genkin wrote: I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available downloads (neither free, nor Plus). Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? Technically, it's only an alpha version, which is probably why it isn't announced on the public site anywhere i can find. As has been mentioned, when you try to install the realplayer package it will tell you to go to the following URL to download the proper file: http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html
Re: New windows
Oooo, dangerous ground... Hopefully this doesn't spark a holy war ;) On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote: After a while I found Windowmaker, and set up a desktop with several handy dock apps. A refreshingly approach to a personal desktop environment. Also, Windowmaker looks good! So different from MS, and yet very easy to configure and use. i like it too, none of the other window managers i've tried have felt right. Then I see that the big hype these days is KDE and Gnome. I have tried them both and felt I was taking one step back towards what I left. I just do not undetstand why the Linux community are working against a wm standard that is not based on what seems truly unique and well layed out: The nextish look. Supposedly, you can use any window manager (read: WindowMaker) with these desktop environments. i haven't actually tried it, never felt the need to. Instead I am again presented with the taskbar and popup menus that hasn't really changed for years. Is this to conquer new users, or is it becuase Linux users secretly have missed the look and feel of MS Windows? My guess is new users... Although there certainly are some out there that like the windows-style menus. And in Debian Windowmaker is presented as: Yet another Windowmanager when it is actually GNOME and KDE that to me feels and looks like yet another... File a bug report, saying the description doesn't do the package justice? ;)
Re: New windows
Well, this seems like the ideal opportunity for me to advertise my ignorance: What exactly is the difference between a window manager and a desktop environment? Thanx. BTW, I second the opinion re: Windowmaker. It's intuitive and easy to use, it looks funky (and probably will look funkier when I get drivers for my video card :) and is really quite impressive... Brad wrote: Oooo, dangerous ground... Hopefully this doesn't spark a holy war ;) On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote: After a while I found Windowmaker, and set up a desktop with several handy dock apps. A refreshingly approach to a personal desktop environment. Also, Windowmaker looks good! So different from MS, and yet very easy to configure and use. i like it too, none of the other window managers i've tried have felt right. Then I see that the big hype these days is KDE and Gnome. I have tried them both and felt I was taking one step back towards what I left. I just do not undetstand why the Linux community are working against a wm standard that is not based on what seems truly unique and well layed out: The nextish look. Supposedly, you can use any window manager (read: WindowMaker) with these desktop environments. i haven't actually tried it, never felt the need to. Instead I am again presented with the taskbar and popup menus that hasn't really changed for years. Is this to conquer new users, or is it becuase Linux users secretly have missed the look and feel of MS Windows? My guess is new users... Although there certainly are some out there that like the windows-style menus. And in Debian Windowmaker is presented as: Yet another Windowmanager when it is actually GNOME and KDE that to me feels and looks like yet another... File a bug report, saying the description doesn't do the package justice? ;) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -- Revenant [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Why use a keyboard layout deliberately designed to be slow and awkward? For a faster, more comfortable and free layout try Dvorak. http://members.xoom.com/Aggie97/DVORAK.HTML for more information. http://www.dvorakint.org/ for lotsa links.
Re: lilo and win98
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:28:54 -0500 (CDT), Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Gertjan Klein wrote: Interesting to see that this works for W9x. Just out of curiousity: if you go to Control Panel - System and press the device tab, does it say the File System is 32-bit? i haven't explicitly checked, but logically it must. Before i installed Linux the filesystem was FAT32 and i did no reformatting of the windows partition. If it were not reading a FAT32 filesystem, windows wouldn't even boot because it could not possibly find any file correctly. Would you mind checking? The information on that tab doesn't actually apply to the filesystem itself, but to the disk I/O driver. W9x says the filesystem is 32 bit if it has completely replaced the BIOS disk drivers with its own, protected mode (32-bit) drivers. Reasons for not doing so include the presence of older, 16-bit drivers in config.sys. W9x does some tests when booting: it reads a couple of sectors through BIOS, and then the same sectors by directly accessing the harddisk. If it encounters differences, (i.e., doesn't get the same sectors back from both reads), it will keep on using the BIOS routines for disk I/O. There are two reasons why W9x could support the drive swapping that LILO does on your system. It could recognise the actual swapping for what it is and implement it in it's own (32-bit) driver. Alternatively, it could see that something is messing with the drive mapping and leave it alone; it would keep on using the BIOS for disk I/O. In the latter case, it would report the filesystem as 16-bit. I'm just curious what it does. Gertjan. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html
more on ssl telnet sessions
hello all ! ok, i should get kicked in the butt for not consulting the new in.telnetd man page that also got installed w/ ssltelnet ... but i havent found this in the man page anywhere ... is it still possible to display whatever is it thats in ur /etc/issue.net when ur running ssl telnet ? (both w/ or w/o the -s secure option TIA, Chad On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 09:52:26AM -0700, George Bonser wrote: invoke telnetd with the -z secure option. On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Chad A. Adlawan wrote: hello everyone ! i have ssltelnet installed/running on my box ... it works by: (shamelessly copied from /non-US/binary-i386/Packages) It interoperates with normal telnet(d) in both directions. It checks if the other side is also talking SSL, if not it falls back to normal telnet protocol. so how do I dissable this feature ? i want my telnetd to accept connections only if the other side is also talking ssl and deny it if its not. TIA, Chad -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null George Bonser Welcome to Wit's End
Re: New windows
actually while i use and like WindowMaker i think that the look and feel of win9x is the best thing that M$ ever did. Which may not be saying much but still the LF is alot better than the underlyeing crap that they write. Like i said i use WM and like it but the problems of windows does not really include the user interface (exempt that it is so unconfigerable etc) On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 10:12:10PM -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote: Hi, I came from MS Windows to Linux a few months ago. I was tired of crashes and all that, and I had the feeling I could do better GUI-wise also. After a while I found Windowmaker, and set up a desktop with several handy dock apps. A refreshingly approach to a personal desktop environment. Also, Windowmaker looks good! So different from MS, and yet very easy to configure and use. Then I see that the big hype these days is KDE and Gnome. I have tried them both and felt I was taking one step back towards what I left. I just do not undetstand why the Linux community are working against a wm standard that is not based on what seems truly unique and well layed out: The nextish look. Instead I am again presented with the taskbar and popup menus that hasn't really changed for years. Is this to conquer new users, or is it becuase Linux users secretly have missed the look and feel of MS Windows? And in Debian Windowmaker is presented as: Yet another Windowmanager when it is actually GNOME and KDE that to me feels and looks like yet another... --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- Clones are people two -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Tim Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. -- Jack Handey
Re: New windows
On 22 Jun 1999, Revenant wrote: Well, this seems like the ideal opportunity for me to advertise my ignorance: What exactly is the difference between a window manager and a desktop environment? Thanx. BTW, I second the opinion re: Windowmaker. It's intuitive and easy to use, it looks funky (and probably will look funkier when I get drivers for my video card :) and is really quite impressive... My ignorance is even greater; I have never managed to get Windowmaker to run at all! I have the standard Slink distribution. I've installed the deb files for wmaker and wmaker-data, but when I try to use it I get a message saying that it can't find /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker. I think at one time I did have it semi-working but all I got was the root window, with nothing else; now I can't even get that. Could some Windowmaker enthusiast tell me what else is needed please? Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.1 (Windows-free zone) Book Reviews: www.achc.demon.co.uk/bookreviews/ The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Re: ld/Xm/Xt question
That's normal - I don't know enough to tell you why, but when linking X libs, x11 goes last, Xt next and then Xm first (or Xaw for athena): -lXm -lXt -lX11 That's the way it is and it is documented in various basic intros to X (see http://www.rahul.net/kenton/xsites.framed.html for loads of stuff on X programming, etc., including on-line X tutorials). HTH, Martin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: ld/Xm/Xt question Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:21:14 -0700 (MST) A few weeks ago I wrote and asked about a problem with X on Slink. Due to the under whelming response (including the developers list, except for Oleg who did give me some useful info) I upgraded to XFree 3.3.3 from the netgod.net site. My test case, at first it appeared to fix the problem but my main app was still broken. I noticed by reading the straces of the application runs that on my test case that worked I had -lXm before -lXt, and the main app had -lXT -lXm on the compile line. Both cases compiled cleanly, without warnings or errors, just the app with -lXt -lXm would seg fault and with -lXm -lXt the app would run sucessfully. Is this a problem with the loader/linker or Lesstif or in XFree? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
R: R: raid
I am using debian 2.1 snip I would like to set-up a RAID-1 array of 2 IDE drives (on separate controllers). a raid software may be slow.hmmm especialy ide raid it's not a good idea for system performance Excuse me jumping on here as I too have been considering this kind of configuration for extra stability. Yes I know that's extremly stable (i'm using a raid-4 on 8 scsi disk) Would system performance be poor if only /etc and /home/~ were reading from and writing to both disks using raid1 (assuming this is possible) ? I don't know because it's not a problem of mine.:) I'm trying to help another people..but on my server to setup a raid-1 i've to degrade my raid4 to 7 disk and link it to a spare-disk. (about 3 hour of work) Fabbione
Re RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
Hi all: I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available downloads (neither free, nor Plus). Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? De G2Realplayer 6.0 is only provided as an RPM package... You have to download it in /tmp (and maybe rename). When you've done that, you can install the realplayer-installer (pkg-name: realplayer), provided (I think) by potato... with apt-get it's easy :) When de realplayer-installer starts, it will try to find the RH pkg in /tmp and install in smoothly on your system :) If you can'f find that RPM, it is available @ ftp://donald-duck.ele.tue.nl/pub/apps/ NB. G2Realplayer 4 Linux is still alpha software Good luck! Paul ~~ Student @ | Using the Power of Linux... University of Technology | ICQ: 8678828 Eindhoven, The Netherlands | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - - End forwarded message -
Re: unknown message
Hi scratch wrote: IIRC, this message probably means that you have recently updated to a 2.2 kernel. In this kernel, ifconfig sets it own routes, so there is no more need for a manual 'route add'. Check your init.d scripts, especially '/etc/init.d/network'. OTOH, I could be completely wrong here, and this message seems like the thing i described, but really isn't and you *are* trying to set a wrong route. I get this message too. Last night I was searching the archives on dmesg and this error message came up several times. From some of the postings, it would seem that you're right. There was a fix--commenting out some line or another. I forgot what exactly and I haven't gone back to take another look. A search on SIOCADDRT would turn up those fixes though. I think you switched to Linux 2.2.x here. With Linux 2.2 it's is no longer necessary to add the whole network to the routing table manually/by script, it will be done automatically by ifconfig... you can change the init script (/etc/init.d/network) to remove the rather harmless error, I think it looks like this now: - source(/0):~$ cat /etc/init.d/network #! /bin/sh ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 route add -net 127.0.0.0 /* It tries to add the network, but that already has been done in the previous line */ - the route add -net line is superfluous, you can comment it with # or delete the whole line ;) Watch it! This only counts for 2.2 kernels!! Gtnx Paul ~~ Student @ | Using the Power of Linux... University of Technology | ICQ: 8678828 Eindhoven, The Netherlands | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message -
Re: A few questions from a newbie.
John Gay wrote: Thanks for the info, but I think you over looked a few items. The reason I want to upgrade to potato is, I installed x11amp, which required newer libs than slink uses. This has broken apt. I've seen this problem mentioned before and the recommended fix was to upgrade to potato. Also, my did you get x11amp from potato? If so it probably requires glibc2.1 libraries, only available in potato. If there is not an x11amp package in slink, then a solution would be to download the (debianised) source and compile it. Almost all of the debian sources (in my experience) seem to compile straight away, with no problems. This way the package would only require whatever version of the libraries you have in your system (glibc 2.0 in slink, unless you have inadvertently upgraded your libraries to glibc2.1 when you got x11amp). video card requires the mach64 server for X11R6 3.3.3.1 which is part of potato, slink uses 3.3.2.3 My system is currently working with X3.3.2.3 with the mach64 server for 3.3.3.1, I'm not sure if this is such a good idea, but it works for I understand this to be a perfectly acceptable configuration. I have done a similar thing myself for a while (until 2.1 came out, when I stopped being a hamm/potato system and moved to slink, although I have since gone back to using some potato packages] If you have to use the potato mach64 packages, they probably require glibc2.1, so you could recompile them as well. (big download though ;-) Apparently netscape has some problems with glibc2.1, although I am having no more crashes than I did with glibc2.0. me for the moment. Due to personal problems, I have to fly to the States this weekend. I'll be gone for 3 weeks. I think I'll just wait till I get back, then pack up my system and cart it down to the local ILUG and have some experts help whats the I stand for? me set the rest of it up. So, hopefully, by next month I'll have my system up and running and on the net. I'll then be able to work on other probs a lot easier, as I'll then have E-Mail at home! Thanks again for all the assistance. Cheers, John Gay -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null frankie -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Large .deb packages..
Richard Dansereau wrote: Hello all! I seem to remember a while back there was a discussion about whether or not to include some rather large packages (i.e. ones containing data, such as astronomical data) in the Debian releases. I think the main consensus was not to include these types of large packages. I was wondering if the Packages file includes or could include a field that would indicate an alternate ftp/http site that these type of packages could be placed into. Then, if someone wishes to maintain a large Debian package that we don't want to put on the general CD distribution that they can still be easily installed and maintained through the standard Debian package installation program. Of course, this raises some other issues as far as security, etc. What do people think about this? Maybe having another section of debian would be better: eg main,contrib,non-free,non-US,marginal. [I'm sure someone could come up with a better name than marginal :-)] Marginal would contain really large packages, or packages that very few people might want to use. If their popularity took off then they would be moved to main. That way the debian CDs contain main, (and anything distributable from contrib and non-free). marginal would have to be got over the internet like non-US. This would perhaps be more in line with the current debian system, I don't know. Frankie Richard.. - Richard DansereauICQ: 1604133 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page: http://pobox.com/~rdanse Electrical and Computer Engineering - The University of Manitoba - Canada - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: DESEA DORMIR BIEN?
Um, anyone know what this is about? I get the idea that sleeping at night has little or nothing to do with debian. frankie P.S. what is an ANUNCIOS GRATIS? sounds disturbingly like spam to me... P.P.S. if so is someone going to mail him (in argentinian? spanish?) and explain debian user's policy on advertising? Humberto Pedraza Alvarez wrote: Esto puede ser de interes PARA SU SALUD!!! NO ES CADENA, NI LISTA DE ANUNCIOS GRATIS Con esto no va a ganar dinero, VA A VIVIR MEJOR. Lo invito a que lea estas preguntas y marque con una X en aquellas frases con las cuales se identifica y nos las envia con un Replay. Dentro de las 48 hs. de recibido su E-mail le enviaremos totalmente gratis el METODO PARA DORMIR BIEN, con el cual comenzara a solucionar los problemas que le estan molestando 1. ¿Los problemas no lo dejan dormir de noche? 2. ¿Ve pasar las horas sin poder conciliar el suenio? 3. ¿Escucha el tic-tac del reloj a lo largo de toda la noche? 4. ¿Da vueltas y vueltas en la cama antes de dormir? 5. ¿Se levanta a la maniana con su cuerpo cansado? 6. ¿Se despierta y todo lo que escucha le molesta? 7. ¿Cuándo comienza el día lo ve todo negro y tenebroso? 8. ¿Se despierta durante la noche y no consigue conciliar el suenio nuevamente? 9. ¿Escucha los problemas ajenos y los pretende solucionar cuando se va a dormir? 10. ¿Siente como si le hubieran dado una paliza durante la noche? 11. ¿Se despierta numerosas veces durante la noche? 12. ¿Durante el día siente que cuando llegue la noche no podra dormir? NOMBRE Y APELLIDO E-MAIL CIUDAD PAIS Usando este simple y practico: METODO PARA DORMIR BIEN, Ud. dormira en forma natural, tranquila y continuada, durante todas las horas que desee, se levantara todos los dias con su mente despejada y su cuerpo descansado. Humberto M. Pedraza Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel-Fax (054-11) 4981-7901 / (054-11) 4958-2520 Bartolome Mitre 3743 - 1º - A 1201 - Capital Federal - Argentina -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
menus for wmaker 0.60
Hi I'm running slink but got wmaker 0.60 and compiled it. After installing it i tryed to run it but it would crash continually. After looking at the console i found that it was looking for a menu.hook that was referenced in WMRootMenu. The only way i could find to solve this problem was to run wmakerconf (under other wm) and save the WMRootMenu file without anything in it. The problem with this solution is that now i don't have root menus in wmaker. Does anyone know how i can recover my root menu. Thanks P.S. please cc back to me! -- Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Install questions etc
This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by Joakim Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi debian users, I am a very new user of Linux. I do have some 10+ year users experience with different unixes though so It feels pretty good. I am awaiting a new high spec pc and while waiting I picked up an old used P75 with 32M and 1G hd. Without almost any knowledge about the hardware (used borrowed 14 monitor) I installed slink and slack 4.0 without any real problems. I installed slink from a cd set and it worked pretty well. So now I have some things I do wonder about. First. On my new system I plan to set up a pretty much complete slink and I also will setup a potato wich I would like to have very configured. Slink will be no problems I think but I could need some advice on what tactics to use when installing potato. I want to have a system (potato) that ofcourse have all the basic stuff but I don't want to have 10 different text editors (if I can avoid it) I really don't want emacs (sorry all emacs users, vi rules *smile*) I don't want all the games etc etc. So how will I acomplish this ? Should I install some very very basic task or profile and then add on using ftp ? Should I install a somewhat more complete system and then remove things I don't need and build from that ? Any other ideas ? Also could anyone update me on the use of dselect versus apt and dpkg ? I think I read something like Is anyone really using dselect anymore? a while ago and would really like to know the current usability. Thanks in advance for any ideas/hints/further readings/ etc Best regards JS Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive
Compiling python-1.5.2-3 on slink - problems
I hope somebody can help me with this one: I am trying to compile the python source from potato/source and I am getting errors while compiling the dbmmodule.c. The errors seems to be related to my lib6c-dev. I have the following installed version: Package: libc6-dev Version: 2.0.7.19981211-6 Some of the errors were: --- make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/python-1.5.2/Modules' gcc -fpic -I/usr/include/db1 -g -O2 -I./../Include -I.. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c ./dbmmodule.c In file included from /usr/include/db1/ndbm.h:42, from ./dbmmodule.c:40: /usr/include/db1/db.h:120: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/db1/db.h:120: parse error before `__PMT' snip /usr/include/db1/db.h:142: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union and a lot of other similar warnigs and parse errors ... ../Include/pyerrors.h:42: previous declaration of `PyErr_SetString' ./dbmmodule.c:210: invalid type argument of `-' ./dbmmodule.c:268: `dbm_getattr' undeclared here (not in a function) ./dbmmodule.c:268: initializer element for `Dbmtype.tp_getattr' is not constant make[2]: *** [dbmmodule.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/python-1.5.2/Modules' make[1]: *** [sharedmods] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/python-1.5.2' make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not. Proverbs 1:10
IMAP default mailbox in user's home dir
I'm setting an IMAP server for math students. I wish the user mailbox to
be in each home directory, so quota can prevent someone filling the
/var/spool/mail.
I yet configured smail and pine to search for the user inbox in
${HOME}/mail/inbox file. In the same mail directory Pine creates its
folders.
The IMAP server (imap 4.4-4) is OK to store folders in ${HOME}/mail/ but
it insists on searching /var/spool/mail/${USER} for the inbox.
I have two questions:
1) Is it possible to change imap without recompiling it? I read a lot of
warning for using a configuration file.
2) Is there a Debian policy about mail in user's home directory?
Niccolo Rigacci
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Re: How to determine local IP
*- On 21 Jun, Brad wrote about Re: How to determine local IP
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, scratch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, R. Brock Lynn wrote:
/sbin/ifconfig | grep P-t-P | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d -f1
nice, now can you do that with a perl one-liner? :)
Something like this?
perl -e 'print (`/sbin/ifconfig` =~ /inet addr:(.*?)\s/);'
Beat me to it! Oh well, i can clean it up to make it work right...
perl -e 'print (`/sbin/ifconfig` =~ /inet addr:(.*?)\s P-t-P:/, \n);'
Or how about one for every interface? This seems to work...
perl -e 'for(`/sbin/ifconfig`){/^\S+/ and $i=$ or /inet addr:(\S+)/ and
print$i\t$1\n}'
If you don't want the interface name, it gets even shorter:
perl -e 'for(`/sbin/ifconfig`){/inet addr:(\S+)/ and print$1\n}'
I HAVE to learn Perl These are sooo much faster than the
grep/awk/cut hacks that I and others have thrown out in this thread. I
love *nix and all its tools.
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Re: diald -- help or source!
Tracy Nelson writes: My connection script is simple editing of the original to whit: +++ MODEM_INIT=ATZC1D2%C0 connect 130 lines, 3693 characters # The phone number to dial ... Is this the exact complete script? If so, you have two problems: a) The first and third lines are extraneous garbage. b) The first line must be #!/bin/sh . I prefer to change the 'connect' line in /etc/diald/diald.options to read connect chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider and use the chatscript generated by pppconfig. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: FAQ: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get?
*- On 21 Jun, Joey Hess wrote about FAQ: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux -- where to get? apt-get install realplayer It's that simple. You will be told what to get and where. Why do people keep asking this FAQ and making it so hard on themselves? Because this requires that slink users have the unstable contrib tree in the sources.list file which can be VERY confusing the for unsuspecting/beginner. Perhaps netgod can be persuaded to put the installer in his /x archive, even though the realplayer installer is not truely dependent on potato. Peter Ludwig wrote: Sorry, just butting in... On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Eric G . Miller wrote: It's there, I got it, It works... You should get the RedHat RPM version, put it in /tmp and the let the debian installation script at it. WHERE? I got given a URL a little while back for a possible site for the linux version of Realplayer g2... the documentation was in spanish, so I had no idea on why it just segfaulted on me... but anyhow, that url didn't work. And realplayers site lists the FREE version of realplayer (for unix-likesystems, INCLUDING Redhat) as being only available in 5.0. What are us people doing wrong at www.real-audio.com? I've tried refreshing the page recently (unless it was locked in the proxy server) to no avail... If your version works, could you just email it to me then? I can't for the life of me figure out why I cannot see it if a lot of people can see it at real-audio, but some of us cannot... On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:26:22 Arcady Genkin wrote: | Hi all: | | I've read a couple of posts in the list about the RPlayer G2 for | Linux. However, the Real's website doesn't list it among available | downloads (neither free, nor Plus). | | Is it really available from somewhere, or is this a mass confusion? | | Thanks! | -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
APT: how to dwnld already debs...
howdie, this must be a simple faq... but haven't found it in any documentation: How to do you ask apt-get to download all the .deb files necessary for a given package, if that package is already installed on your machine? I've tried apt-get -d install SOME-PACKAGE but it works only for those packages which are not yet installed on my machine. For those packages that are already installed, it just tells me they are installed... Here is the more detailed scenario: I have two machines, an officeMachine and a homeMachine. officeMachine is connected to the net and has debian installed. homeMachine is not connected to the net (and has no cd-rom), and has no debian (yet). The two machines share files through zip disks. The goal is thus to dwnld packages (X11, gnome, etc.) with officeMachine, put them on a zip, and install at home. Short of making a mini-mirror of ftp.debian.org on my hd/zip, it has been a no-go for the moment... thanks! churrasco
Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's
Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: Could someone tell me which .debs I should install to have Netscape browser-only on a Slink machine? Is it the netscape-base package? As far as I found out, versions =4.5 can be found in unstable, right? Can there be any problem because Slink has glibc-2.0, and potato -- 2.1? Also, is there a browser-only 4.6? If you are running slink, you need to install the package navigator-smotif-45. If you do that using the apt-get command like this... apt-get install navigator-smotif-45 ...it will install the stand alone Navigator plus all it's dependencies, including navigator-base-45 and netscape-base-4. If you want java support and/or the online help, also install the package(s): netscape-java-45 navigator-nethelp-45 The 4.6 version of Netscape is only in potato (unstable) and requires the 2.1 version of libc6, which is also only in potato. If you're not otherwise planning on upgrading to potato at this time, you would probably be best off to stick with Netscape 4.5 for now. I've had them both installed and didn't notice much, if any, difference in functionality - and version 4.5 running on slink is likely to be more stable. Tom
Re: IMAP default mailbox in user's home dir
On Tue, Jun 22, 1999 at 12:23:51PM +0200, Rigacci wrote:
The IMAP server (imap 4.4-4) is OK to store folders in ${HOME}/mail/ but
it insists on searching /var/spool/mail/${USER} for the inbox.
This isn't a real solution, but, will IMAP accept a sym link in
/var/spool/mail/${USER} == ${HOME}/mail/inbox ???
HTH,
Jon
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Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's
*- On 22 Jun, Tom Pfeifer wrote about Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: Could someone tell me which .debs I should install to have Netscape browser-only on a Slink machine? Is it the netscape-base package? As far as I found out, versions =4.5 can be found in unstable, right? Can there be any problem because Slink has glibc-2.0, and potato -- 2.1? Also, is there a browser-only 4.6? [good apt-get advice] The 4.6 version of Netscape is only in potato (unstable) and requires the 2.1 version of libc6, which is also only in potato. If you're not otherwise planning on upgrading to potato at this time, you would probably be best off to stick with Netscape 4.5 for now. I've had them both installed and didn't notice much, if any, difference in functionality - and version 4.5 running on slink is likely to be more stable. There are packages for netscape 4.6 at http://ftp.netgod.net/x built against slink. I think you still have to get the netscape-base-4_14 from the contrib/web section of unstable(it is not dependent on libc6=2.1). Just install that package by hand with dpkg and then add 'deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/' to your sources.list file and do as Tom described. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: APT: how to dwnld already debs...
Hi, You can repack your installed .deb's with dpkg-repack. You could also mount the CD on officeMachine (or use ftp) and copy the .deb's to the zip drive. I have a simmilar set-up and use the above two methods. Sometimes a deb gets left out, but apt will let you know when when you try to install If you are looking to simply mirror officeMachine to homeMachine you could simply set-up officeMachine then tar everything to the zip drive...tar -M -cf /dev/zip drive will create a multi-volume archive. HTH, Jon --- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 39679408
Re: How to determine local IP
What about this one??
ifconfig | \
grep inet addr | \
grep -v 127.0.0.1 | \
awk '{print $2;}' | \
awk -F':' '{print $2;}'
On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 11:23:29PM -0500, R. Brock Lynn wrote:
scratch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, R. Brock Lynn wrote:
/sbin/ifconfig | grep P-t-P | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d -f1
nice, now can you do that with a perl one-liner? :)
Something like this?
perl -e 'print (`/sbin/ifconfig` =~ /inet addr:(.*?)\s/);'
oohh nifty. Now let's see if I can figure out how it works. :)
(no don't tell me now! I took the usenix perl tutorials... I should know... :\
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apt-get !update
Hi, apt-get isn't updating. I just added deb http//:ftp.netgod.net x/ and I say that a number of packages have been updated since I last ran an update, but I have no New or Updated packages . Also apt reports a data transfer rate of 140Kbps, over a V34 modem (I wish!) TIA, Jon -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 39679408
Re: How to determine local IP
Hi, Once dialed in, how to determine the local (dynamically assigned) IP id? I know pppd invokes ip-up with the local IP. But outside that, is there a env variable, API or a file that holds returns this info? Thanks much, nram ifconfig
WindowMaker and GNOME
I've installed GNOME and the wmaker-gnome package (using apt and a mirror of ftp.gnome.org). I can switch between IceWM and Enlightenment without any problem, but if I try to switch to WindowMaker using the GNOME Control Panel, it times out while trying to start. I'm running GNOME by using an .xsession with exec gnome-session in it. Any ideas about what's going wrong or what I can do to diagnose the problem? - Kris
Re: Alt+ArrowUp (inittab kbrequest)
Quoting J Horacio MG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ~ I think you need to archive your postings and their replies a ~ bit more efficiently. I was about to cut and paste a previous ~ reply on the subject when I noticed that the question was posed ~ by you! I can assure you they are efficiently enough archived. I asked why Alt+ArrowUp would shutdown the system while it's not configured to perform that task, and whether it would be safe to comment the line which refers to it in /etc/inittab: # Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow). kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo Keyboard Request--edit /etc/inittab to let this work. See? it doesn't say anywhere to shutdown the system (at least that I know), but it does. The answer I got about a year ago was about configuring Ctrl+Alt+End to perform the shutdown task, which works perfectly. Thank you anyway for your concern I'm sorry. I thought in light of the previous thread's reply that you would know to look and see was already defined in /etc/kbd/default.map.gz to produce KeyboardSignal (which you yourself must have already made equivalent to shutdown). I hope it's all sorted now and you have removed alt keycode 103 = KeyboardSignal Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: IMAP default mailbox in user's home dir
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Rigacci wrote:
I'm setting an IMAP server for math students. I wish the user
mailbox to be in each home directory, so quota can prevent someone
filling the /var/spool/mail.
I yet configured smail and pine to search for the user inbox in
${HOME}/mail/inbox file. In the same mail directory Pine creates
its folders.
The IMAP server (imap 4.4-4) is OK to store folders in
${HOME}/mail/ but it insists on searching /var/spool/mail/${USER}
for the inbox.
I have two questions:
1) Is it possible to change imap without recompiling it? I read a
lot of warning for using a configuration file.
2) Is there a Debian policy about mail in user's home directory?
I know this isn't one of your questions, but why not give each user
disk quota in the directory /var/spool/mail? This would avoid
questions 1 2.
Dennis
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Re: New windows
On 22-Jun-99 Revenant wrote: Well, this seems like the ideal opportunity for me to advertise my ignorance: What exactly is the difference between a window manager and a desktop environment? I am also ignorant regarding this. I just know I am perfectly happy with Windowmaker. So if Windowmaker is not a desktop environment I guess the simple fact is: I do not need one! :) --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- Clones are people two
Re: New windows
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Tim Nicholas wrote: actually while i use and like WindowMaker i think that the look and feel of win9x is the best thing that M$ ever did. Which may not be saying much but still the LF is alot better than the underlyeing crap that they write. Hi snip I came from MS Windows to Linux a few months ago. I was tired of crashes and snipusers secretly have missed the look and feel of MS For my x environment I went for icewm after trying afterstep. Tkdesk? Like the afterstep menu bar is a little brash isn't it? Icewm is just at the point of developing the full desktop icon idea which is fun to play with. aaagh. just open an xterm and fire up what you want to use. yours not too puritanically i hope angus claydon
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] D-Link DE-650 - PCMCIA
Quoting Paul Harris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): does anyone know if the kernel supports this card? i only saw options for the de-600 to de-620. I use one. It says NE2000 compatible when you plug it in. I guess people get bored with adding new model numbers when they're basically similar underneath. What's far more important is the controller chipset in the laptop. For example I can now use the ti1220 in slink whereas I had to compile the sources from csb.stanford.edu with hamm. However, I can't install from scratch even in slink because the installation program only offers the choice of i82365 and tcic. This made installation quite tough as the slink installation kernel also has no ppa support. i'm trying to compile a 2.2.10 kernel for it, but I can't find the option for Pcmcia NE2000 compatible support for the apne.o module. Its in the Configure.help file... or is there another way of doing things for pcmcia? (i've only worked with desktops up until now). when does the controller chipset come into things? how does that work? Short answer: do nothing. I don't know what the apne.o module is. But it sounds as if you may be looking for a problem that isn't there. If you're compiling a kernel, you've got kernel-package, kernel-source and pcmcia-source installed. Once you've configured the kernel in the usual way (I use make menuconfig), you do make-kpkg clean make-kpkg --revision=foobar.1.0 kernel_image make-kpkg --revision=foobar.1.0 modules_image which makes two packages which you then install. Note that as far as pcmcia is concerned, there's nothing to do. For example, I configure Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) [*] (built-in) 3COM cards N (don't build) because 3COM comes up automatically. If you use pcmcia IDE stuff, then there's an option for that. But I never mention what sort of card manager or card I have - they're all in the source and, AIUI, you make a bundle of modules because you don't know a priori what make of card somebody else might want to push into the slot. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
