RE: =??Q?Mutt_peta=2E=2E=2E_tambi=E9n_el_de_potato?=

1999-07-22 Thread Ricardo Villalba

El Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 05:10:56PM +0200, Jon Noble escribió:
 Hola,
 Vaya, veo que mis mensajes causan estragos :-)

Hombre, tampoco es eso... :-)

 Más en serio, uso balsa como cliente de mail, ¿veis algo raro en
mis
 mails? ¿Quereis que os mande algun mensaje más para pruebas? Si
descubrís
 algo me avisais...

Este se abre perfectamente, pero el subject sigue saliendo raro:

Subject: Re: =??Q?Mutt_peta=2E=2E=2E_tambi=E9n_el_de_potato?=


Pues debe ser cosa del mutt porque yo con el outlook los veo
perfectamente, incluyendo el subject.

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TrueType Super-mini-howto

1999-07-22 Thread Ricardo Villalba
Usar fuentes TrueType es sencillísimo en la debian slink, pero como
la documentación del xfstt no lo explica muy claro me he decidido a
escribir el pequeño howto que incluyo.


Ricardo Villalba
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http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft
http://rvmsoft.findhere.com


  TrueType Super-Mini-Howto
  Ricardo Villalba, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  21 de julio de 1999

  Usar fuentes TrueType es sencillísimo en la debian slink, pero como la
  documentación del xfstt no lo explica muy claro me he decidido ha
  escribir este pequeño howto.
  __

  Table of Contents


  1. Lo primero de todo: instalar el xfstt

  2. Conseguir unas cuantas fuentes

  3. Activando las fuentes



  __

  11..  LLoo pprriimmeerroo ddee ttooddoo:: 
iinnssttaallaarr eell xxffsstttt

  Si no lo tienes ya instalado, instálate el paquete xfstt que se halla
  en la sección x11.


  22..  CCoonnsseegguuiirr uunnaass ccuuaannttaass 
ffuueenntteess

  El servidor xfstt no lleva ninguna fuente, así que debemos conseguir
  unas cuantas por nuestra cuenta. Lo más sencillo será cogérselas
  prestadas a windows. Las fuentes de windows están en el directorio
  C:\windows\fonts pero creo que se guardan comprimidas o en algún
  formato raro, por lo que para cogerlas habrá que utilizar el propio
  explorador de windows y copiar temporalmente las fuentes que nos
  interesen a otro directorio.

  Luego ya desde linux sólo habremos de copiar esas fuentes al
  directorio /usr/share/fonts/truetype/.


  33..  AAccttiivvaannddoo llaass ffuueenntteess

  Para tener acceso a las nuevas fuentes hay que reiniciar el servidor
  de fuentes truetype, como root tecleamos:


   rvmsoft:/home/ricardo# /etc/init.d/xfstt restart
   Reloading X True Type Font Server configuration...
   Stopping X TrueType Font Server: xfstt.
   xfstt: sync in directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/.
   Found 7 fonts.
   Starting X TrueType Font Server: xfstt.




  Y por último, para que el servidor X pueda acceder a las fuentes
  tenemos que añadirlas al path:


   xset +fp unix/:7101



  Lo mejor será añadir esta orden al ~/.xsession para no tener que estar
  tecleándola todo el rato.

  ¡Ya está! Ahora desde casi cualquier programa de las X podemos escoger
  cualquiera de las fuentes TrueType. Y además el aspecto de las páginas
  web mostradas por el netscape mejorará bastante si hemos instalado las
  fuentes Verdana, Tahoma, y algunas otras que se suelen utilizar con
  frecuencia en las páginas realizadas en windows.




























































RE: Offtopic === Servidor de news

1999-07-22 Thread Ricardo Villalba
Hasta ahora estaba usando un servidor de news pero no se que pasa
que no
funciona.
¿Alguien puede decirme de un servidor de news gratuito?

Por ejemplo news.mad.ttd.net o news.mad.bcn.ttd.net.

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RE: Error en KDE

1999-07-22 Thread Ricardo Villalba
 cuando intento ejecutar por ejemplo kppp, sin ser root, me da el
 siguiente mensaje de error:
 
 kppp: error in loading shared libraries
 :undefined symbol: __pure_virtual
 
 ¿No te da error si lo ejecutas como root? La próxima vez que
instale
 el kde probaré con los demás programas que daban el mismo error.


He instalado de nuevo el kde y he ejecutado como root el kdehelp
(que es uno de los programas que dan ese error) y sigue fallando :-(

Si lo ejecuto como root, todo va perfectamente.


¿?
Si lo ejecutas como root ¿también te funcionan el kdehelp o el
kedit?

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Re: =??Q?Mutt_peta=2E=2E=2E_tambi=E9n_el_de_potato?=

1999-07-22 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 08:06:33PM +0200, Ricardo Villalba dijo:
 
 El Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 05:10:56PM +0200, Jon Noble escribió:
  Hola,
  Vaya, veo que mis mensajes causan estragos :-)
 
 Hombre, tampoco es eso... :-)
 
  Más en serio, uso balsa como cliente de mail, ¿veis algo raro en
 mis
  mails? ¿Quereis que os mande algun mensaje más para pruebas? Si
 descubrís
  algo me avisais...
 
 Este se abre perfectamente, pero el subject sigue saliendo raro:
 
 Subject: Re: =??Q?Mutt_peta=2E=2E=2E_tambi=E9n_el_de_potato?=
 
 Pues debe ser cosa del mutt porque yo con el outlook los veo
 perfectamente, incluyendo el subject.
Claro, sera que corres OutLook sobre Linux!!!

No es problema del mutt, por que, sencillamente, nunca me ha pasado.

Mmmm... sera cuestion de monitorear que trata de hacer el mutt cuando lee 
dicho correo? (usando ps y strace, por ejemplo?) 

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Netscape hambriento de memoria.

1999-07-22 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
Estaba yo muy feliz con los 64MB adicionales que le puse a mi maquina (96 en
total). Todo iba de maravilla. Cargo el Netscape 4.5, abro dos paginas,
voy a comer algo, llego y me encuentro con la sorpresita de que Netscape se
esta comiendo 131MB!!!

Alguien sabe que diablos ocurre? Uso el 4.51? el 4.08? No lo uso?

Que hago?

Gracias y chao...

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Re: Netscape hambriento de memoria.

1999-07-22 Thread Antonio Castro
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote:

 Estaba yo muy feliz con los 64MB adicionales que le puse a mi maquina (96 en
 total). Todo iba de maravilla. Cargo el Netscape 4.5, abro dos paginas,
 voy a comer algo, llego y me encuentro con la sorpresita de que Netscape se
 esta comiendo 131MB!!!
 
 Alguien sabe que diablos ocurre? Uso el 4.51? el 4.08? No lo uso?

Pero lo que importa saber es si esa memoria ocupada ahora por Netscape
esta disponible caso realmente de otro programa la necesite. Lo digo
porque la memoria RAM que nadie usa puede tener ser aprovechada 
temporalmente para determinados usos según creo. Carga otros programas
y comprueba si Netscape suelta memoria.

 Que hago?


 Gracias y chao...
 
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Re: Netscape hambriento de memoria.

1999-07-22 Thread Jose Luis Trivino
Antonio Castro wrote:
 
 On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote:
 
  Estaba yo muy feliz con los 64MB adicionales que le puse a mi maquina (96 en
  total). Todo iba de maravilla. Cargo el Netscape 4.5, abro dos paginas,
  voy a comer algo, llego y me encuentro con la sorpresita de que Netscape se
  esta comiendo 131MB!!!
 
  Alguien sabe que diablos ocurre? Uso el 4.51? el 4.08? No lo uso?
 
 Pero lo que importa saber es si esa memoria ocupada ahora por Netscape
 esta disponible caso realmente de otro programa la necesite. Lo digo
 porque la memoria RAM que nadie usa puede tener ser aprovechada
 temporalmente para determinados usos según creo. Carga otros programas
 y comprueba si Netscape suelta memoria.
Puedo garantizar que no la suelta. Yo tengo el mismo
problema con el netscape para glibc y es un rollo. Cada vez
que abro un par de NS empieza a comer memoria y no la libera
hasta que no lo cierro totalmente (no basta con cerrar una
ventana). Creo que se debe a un fallo en la programación de
NS. Además, cuando la página tiene JAVA la cosa se pone peor
aún.
Mi unica esperanza es que salga una nueva version con estos
fallos corregidos.

Hasta mas bits,

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cfdisk no reconoce particion NTFS

1999-07-22 Thread Antonio Iglesias
Buenos Dias a todos/as.

Os cuento:
Tenía en un PC compartiendo winnt y DEBIAN 2.1 ( la lite de Citius que venia con
la última Linux Actual ) en tres particiones. Una fat16, una linux ext2 y linux
swap y todo funcionaba ok. Pero ayer a mis compañeros de oficina se les ocurrió
la feliz idea de reinstalar el nt para cambiar su tipo de partición a ntfs. 

Y ahí me han fastidiado porque el nt ha reparticionado el disco borrándome mi
flamante DEBIAN :'( Y no solo eso, sino que encima, cuando he ido a reinstalarlo
me he dado cuenta de que cfdisk parece no soportar ese tipo de partición y me
dice algo asi como partición primaria incorrecta. 

¿ que puedo hacer?  ¿ alguien sabe como se soluciona esto ?

Muchas Gracias de antemano. 
Antonio


Re: TrueType Super-mini-howto

1999-07-22 Thread daniel

Gracias por tu contribución maxo, seguro que mucha gente lo agradecerá...
Yo también uso fuentes True-type con las X, lo único que echo en falta es
el anti-aliasing, para los que no sepan que es, anti-aliasing hace que las
fuentes tengan un aspecto presentable y que por ejemplo no se vean los
palitos de la W juntos, etc... en fin... fuentes suaves tipo winblows y
MacOS que se ven perfectamente... en X las fuentes se ven gorrinas porque
todavía no tiene anti-aliasing.. y la razón de decir todo esto... ¿no
sabrás por casualidad de algún sitio donde alguien haya sacado un parche o
algo para que haya anti-aliasing en las X?

Un saludo..

Daniel


  
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la documentación del xfstt no lo explica muy claro me he decidido a
escribir el pequeño howto que incluyo.


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  TrueType Super-Mini-Howto
  Ricardo Villalba, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  21 de
  julio de 1999

  Usar fuentes TrueType es sencillsimo en la debian
  slink, pero como la
  documentacin del xfstt no lo explica muy claro me
  he decidido ha
  escribir este pequeo howto.
  _
  _

  Table of Contents


  1.
   Lo primero de todo: instalar el xfstt

  2. Conseguir unas cuantas
  fuentes

  3. Activando las fuentes



  
  __

  11..  LLoo
  pprriimmeerroo ddee ttooddoo:: iinnssttaallaarr
  eell xxffsstttt

  Si no lo tienes ya instalado, instlate el
  paquete xfstt que se halla
  en la seccin x11.


  22..
  CCoonnsseegguuiirr uunnaass ccuuaannttaass
  ffuueenntteess

  El servidor xfstt no lleva ninguna fuente, as
  que debemos conseguir
  unas cuantas por nuestra cuenta. Lo ms sencillo
  ser cogrselas
  prestadas a windows. Las fuentes de windows estn en
  el directorio
  C:\windows\fonts pero creo que se guardan comprimidas o
  en algn
  formato raro, por lo que para cogerlas habr que utilizar el
  propio
  explorador de windows y copiar temporalmente las fuentes que
  nos
  interesen a otro directorio.

  Luego ya desde linux slo habremos
  de copiar esas fuentes al
  directorio /usr/share/fonts/truetype/.
  33..  AAccttiivvaannddoo llaass ffuueenntteess
  Para tener acceso a las nuevas fuentes hay que reiniciar el servidor
  de
   fuentes truetype, como root tecleamos:


   rvmsoft:/home/ricardo#
  /etc/init.d/xfstt restart
   Reloading X True Type Font Server
  configuration...
   Stopping X TrueType Font Server: xfstt.
  xfstt: sync in directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/.
   Found 7
  fonts.
   Starting X TrueType Font Server: xfstt.




  Y por ltimo,
   para que el servidor X pueda acceder a las fuentes
  tenemos que
  aadirlas al path:


   xset +fp unix/:7101



  Lo mejor ser aadir
   esta orden al ~/.xsession para no tener que estar
  teclendola todo el
  rato.

  Ya est! Ahora desde casi cualquier programa de las X podemos
  escoger
  cualquiera de las fuentes TrueType. Y adems el aspecto de las
  pginas
  web mostradas por el netscape mejorar bastante si hemos
  instalado las
  fuentes Verdana, Tahoma, y algunas otras que se suelen
  utilizar con
  frecuencia en las pginas realizadas en windows.




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Re: =??Q?Mutt_peta=2E=2E=2E_tambi=E9n_el_de_potato?=

1999-07-22 Thread Roberto Ripio

El Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 08:06:33PM +0200, Ricardo Villalba escribió:
 
 Subject: Re: =??Q?Mutt_peta=2E=2E=2E_tambi=E9n_el_de_potato?=
 
 
 Pues debe ser cosa del mutt porque yo con el outlook los veo
 perfectamente, incluyendo el subject.

Sospecho que tengo algún problema con los códigos de caracteres. Un colega me 
manda a
menudo archivos vinculados a mensajes compuestos en outlook. Cuando se trata
de nombres largos (en windox) salen tal que así en el menú de vínculos de
mutt:

 =?iso-8859-1?Q?cverr=E1t.doc?

 
 Ricardo Villalba
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RE: =??Q?Mutt_peta=2E=2E=2E_tambi=E9n_el_de_potato?=

1999-07-22 Thread Tejada Lacaci, Antonio
 -Mensaje original-
 De:   Roberto Ripio [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el:   jueves 22 de julio de 1999 13:01
 Para: Ricardo Villalba; debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto:   Re: =??Q?Mutt_peta=2E=2E=2E_tambi=E9n_el_de_potato?=
 
 
 El Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 08:06:33PM +0200, Ricardo Villalba escribió:
 
 Sospecho que tengo algún problema con los códigos de caracteres. Un colega
 me manda a
 menudo archivos vinculados a mensajes compuestos en outlook. Cuando se
 trata
 de nombres largos (en windox) salen tal que así en el menú de vínculos de
 mutt:
 
  =?iso-8859-1?Q?cverr=E1t.doc?
Si te fijas y pones los mensajes en RAW, verás la misma codificación
que en el título. Lo que pasa es que el Outlook está escapando el título
en Quoted Printable (creo que es esa la codificación) y se ve que el mutt no
acepta quoted printable en el título, o bien no lo tienes configurado para
que lo acepte así (en eso no puedo ayudarte, ya que no uso el mutt ).

Fíjate en las cabeceras de tu mensaje, por ejemplo, el subj. de tu
mensaje es:

Subject: Re:
=?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3F=3FQ=3FMutt=5Fpeta=3D2E=3D2E=3D2E=5Ftambi=3DE9n=5Fel?=
 =?us-ascii?Q?=5Fde=5Fpotato=3F=3D?=

Ahí, aparte de la porquería que ha metido el mutt, están escapados
los caracteres:
   _ sustituído por =5F
   = sustituido por =3D 
etcétera.

 Roberto Ripio
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
Antonio Tejada Lacaci   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Depto. Análisis y Programación
Banca March S.A.


Re: Sources.gz

1999-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
 Angel Vicente Perez escribió:

  Perdonad mi ignorancia, pero he visto en los directorios de las
  distribuciones, un fichero Sources.gz, que contien descripciones de
  paquetes.
  
  ¿Deberia tener en mi /var/lib/dpkg un fichero analogo, asi como tengo el
  available que es analogo al Packages?, ¿para que sirve?

 con una versión reciente de apt, en /etc/apt/sources.list:

 deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main

 y le dás:

 $ apt-get update

 $ apt-get source mutt

 y eso copia el paquete fuente de mutt.  Hay opciones para compilar el
 paquete luego de que se copia.


 Marcelo


No me funciona el apt

1999-07-22 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos...

He cambiado a la version mas reciente de apt, pero cuando hago

apt-get source abc2mtex

me salen los siguientes errores

E: Malformed Priority line
E: Error occured while processing timezones (NewVersion1)
E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status

que no se que me estan diciendo. He mirado en el archivo de la lista deity,
pero no he encontrado nada

Saludos.


Re: =??Q?Mutt_peta=2E=2E=2E_tambi=E9n_el_de_potato?=

1999-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
 Tejada Lacaci, Antonio escribió:

   Si te fijas y pones los mensajes en RAW, verás la misma
  codificación que en el título. Lo que pasa es que el Outlook está
  escapando el título en Quoted Printable (creo que es esa la
  codificación) y se ve que el mutt no acepta quoted printable en el
  título, o bien no lo tienes configurado para que lo acepte así (en
  eso no puedo ayudarte, ya que no uso el mutt ).

 Sí, si lo acepta:

  147 r + 07/03 Mario A. Guerra (0.7K) Re: ¿Nueva película de El Señor
  173   + 07/12 Víctor Alvarado (0.3K) No entró la llamada!

 Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=BFNueva=20pel=EDcula?= de El 
 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?No_entr=F3_la_llamada!?=

 No sería la primera vez que el Outlook hace algo mal con respecto a
 QP, pero para cada mensaje:

 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586)
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0)

 me late que algún programa en alguna parte se comió algo de la
 codificación...
 

 Marcelo


Re: Netscape hambriento de memoria.

1999-07-22 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 08:29:15AM +0200, Jose Luis Trivino dijo:
 Antonio Castro wrote:
  On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote:
   [Netscape usando 131MB de memoria]
  
  Pero lo que importa saber es si esa memoria ocupada ahora por Netscape
  esta disponible caso realmente de otro programa la necesite. Lo digo
  porque la memoria RAM que nadie usa puede tener ser aprovechada
  temporalmente para determinados usos según creo. Carga otros programas
  y comprueba si Netscape suelta memoria.
   Puedo garantizar que no la suelta. Yo tengo el mismo
 problema con el netscape para glibc y es un rollo. Cada vez
 que abro un par de NS empieza a comer memoria y no la libera
 hasta que no lo cierro totalmente (no basta con cerrar una
 ventana). Creo que se debe a un fallo en la programación de
 NS. Además, cuando la página tiene JAVA la cosa se pone peor
 aún.
Es exactamente el mismo problema. Es que, de hecho, Netscape ya esta comiendose
la memoria Swap!!!

   Mi unica esperanza es que salga una nueva version con estos
 fallos corregidos.
Esa es mi esperanza, tambien... :o) 

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Problema son sb16

1999-07-22 Thread Avid El Fasih



Saludos a la 
lista
Por fin tras varios 
días de horror y fracasos he decidido dirigirme a la lista para ver si alguien 
puede echarme una mano. Supongo que la cuestión es bastante trivial y conocida 
pero bueno ahí va:
No puedo hacer que 
funcione mi tarjeta de sonido Sound Blaster 16 pnp. Primero intenté compilar el 
kernel que tenía era el 2.0.36 sin llegar a ninguna solución; me imagine que 
este núcleo no admitía tarjetas pnp así que me baje el 2.2.10 que es el que 
tengo ahora instalado. También intente instalar un paquete que venía en la 
distribución Debian que tengo "Alsa Drivers" sin saber muy bien para que valía y 
por supuesto no conseguí nada. En el kernel que tengo he activado el pnp y he 
instalado la sound blaster pero estoy seguro que me falta alguna opción. Cada 
vez que intento mandar algo al dispositivo de audio /dev/audio (que también le 
cree ya que por defecto no lo tenia con MAKEDEV audio) me dice que el 
dispositivo no lo soporta. Os mando el listado de /dev/sndstat por si sirve de 
ayuda, las IRQ e I/O son las mismas que tengo en güindos pero en dispositivos de 
audio no me aparece ninguno, y en MIDI como he puesto el loopback he hecho 
trampas y tampoco vale:

OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver compiled into kernel
Kernel: Linux cronos 2.2.10 #7 Sat Jul 10 22:38:27 CEST 1999 i686
Config options: 0
Installed drivers: 
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Type 26: MPU-401 (UART)
Type 2: Sound Blaster
Type 29: Sound Blaster PnP
Type 7: SB MPU-401
Type 37: Loopback MIDI Device
Card config: 
(Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1,5)
(SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 1 drq 0)
(OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0)
Loopback MIDI Device drq 0
Audio devices:
Synth devices:
Midi devices:
0: Loopback MIDI Port 1
1: Loopback MIDI Port 2
Timers:
0: System clock
Mixers:
Tambien adjunto el 
listado de proc/devices para comprobar que el driver está instalado. No obstante 
cuando arranco el sistema me dice que ha instalado los drivers de sonido pero no 
me dice nada de las irq e i/o como pone en las HOWTO, no se si será normal con 
las versiones del núcleo que estoy utilizando. Una vez que esto funcione (porque 
lo tengo que conseguir como sea) me gustaría instalar los drivers como módulos 
para ahorrar un poco de memorieta a ver si me podéis dar algún consejillo. 
También me gustaría saber que son los ALSA Drivers, si son módulos que 
diferencia hay con los que vienen en el núcleo.

Character devices:
1 mem
2 pty
3 ttyp
4 ttyS
5 cua
7 vcs
10 misc
14 sound
128 ptm
136 pts
Block devices:
2 fd
3 ide0
22 ide1
Gracias a todos, estoy 
empezando con LINUX y después de probar con varias distribuciones la que más me 
gusta es la DEBIAN ya que me permite controlar mejor que es lo que instalo 
(supongo que me he acostumbrado al sistema dpkg y dselect) pero todavía estoy 
muy verde, si veis alguna cosa rara en algún dispositivo que he instalado y no 
vale para nada por favor decírmelo por que es la primera vez que compilo el 
núcleo y seguro que he metido cosas que no son comunes y me he dejado fuera algo 
importante.



Re: Netscape hambriento de memoria.

1999-07-22 Thread Ricard P.G.
--- Ugo Enrico Albarello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 El Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 08:29:15AM +0200, Jose Luis Trivino dijo:
  Antonio Castro wrote:
   On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote:
[Netscape usando 131MB de memoria]
   
   Pero lo que importa saber es si esa memoria ocupada ahora por Netscape
   esta disponible caso realmente de otro programa la necesite. Lo digo
   porque la memoria RAM que nadie usa puede tener ser aprovechada
   temporalmente para determinados usos según creo. Carga otros programas
   y comprueba si Netscape suelta memoria.
  Puedo garantizar que no la suelta. Yo tengo el mismo
  problema con el netscape para glibc y es un rollo. Cada vez
  que abro un par de NS empieza a comer memoria y no la libera
  hasta que no lo cierro totalmente (no basta con cerrar una
  ventana). Creo que se debe a un fallo en la programación de
  NS. Además, cuando la página tiene JAVA la cosa se pone peor
  aún.
 Es exactamente el mismo problema. Es que, de hecho, Netscape ya esta
 comiendose
 la memoria Swap!!!
 
  Mi unica esperanza es que salga una nueva version con estos
  fallos corregidos.
 Esa es mi esperanza, tambien... :o) 
 

Como experiencia personal puedo decir que en mi empresa todo funciona por web i
utilizamos el Netscape 24h. al dia. Hemos actualizado las estaciones de trabajo
con la ultima version, la 4.6 y lamento deciros que maneja la memoria igual de
MAL ... y eso que todos los ordenadores tienen 128 Mb de RAM o mas ... snif snif
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Re: Netscape hambriento de memoria.

1999-07-22 Thread budgy
El Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Ugo Enrico Albarello escribió:
 Estaba yo muy feliz con los 64MB adicionales que le puse a mi maquina (96 en
 total). Todo iba de maravilla. Cargo el Netscape 4.5, abro dos paginas,
 voy a comer algo, llego y me encuentro con la sorpresita de que Netscape se
 esta comiendo 131MB!!!
 

Saludos.
Yo tenía el mismo problema, cada vez que abría una página o veía una
imagen el netscape aumentaba de tamaño y esa memoria no se liberaba,
la solución fue la siguiente, borrar por completo el directorio ~/.netscape,
haciendo copia del bookmarks.html, al arrancar el netscape te crea otro
~/.netscape y ahora si libera bien la memoria, me imagino que alguno de los
ficheros de ese directorio que generan algunas versiones del netscape no es
compatible con los que usan versiones mas modernas y de ahi ese consumo
desproporcionado de memoria, espero que esto sea la solución a tu problema, lo
fue en mi caso.


abiword

1999-07-22 Thread Alfredo Casademunt
Hola a todos.

He descargado el abiword 0.7.1 y con el comando

make distribution ABI_BUILD_VERSION=0.7.1 ABI_DIST_TARGET=deb

he creado un paquete .deb; el problema es que cuando llamo
al abiword aparece una ventana vacía, en cuya barra de titulo
pone

Untitled1 - AbiWord Personal (www.abisource.com)

y no hay manera de hacer nada con ella, ¿ alguien sabe
cual puede ser el problema ?

Un saludo.

Alfredo.


Re: Perdonar pero no me aclaro

1999-07-22 Thread Miquel
El jue, jul 22, 1999 at 01:18:20 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] va dir:

 
 Y tercero, sí ya sé que el Derecho es un coñazo.  

en este caso creo que no lo es, es fundamental que haya gente en la comunidad 
linux que controle de leyes, para orientarnos en este marasmo legal que, aunque 
sea un poco árido para profanos, es básico para asegurar que el software libre 
siga siéndolo en esa dura batalla con los partidarios de imponer la propiedad 
sobre el conocimiento a cualquier precio, que cuentan con ejercitos de abogados 
magnificamente pagados para oponerse a la inteligencia colectiva...

 Sin ir más lejos, la GPL no tiene sentido real en nuestro
 ámbito (sin una traducción de conceptos).  Los europeos tenemos que
 empezar a buscar nuestras propias soluciones a todo lo relacionado con
 el software libre.]

me gustaría que ampliaras un poco esto último, por qué dices que es inaplicable 
la GPL a Europa y en qué consistiría esa traducción de conceptos de la que 
hablas.

un saludo,

miquel

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Alguém de Portugal na lista?

1999-07-22 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Olá, 

Desculpe por não responder as mensagens que me enviaram.

O motivo para esta pergunta foi porque estava precisando colocar
o suporte do idioma Português no DebianDoc (um dos pacotes da Debian
utilizado para geração de documentos SGML, como o manual de instalação
da Debian). Ardo Van Rangelroij mantém este pacote e perguntei se seria 
possível também a inclusão do suporte a mensagens do Portugês de 
Portugal (aproveitando o embalo da inclusão do Brasileiro). 

Como o Idioma Português do Brasil é um pouco diferente do Português de
Portugal, não ficaria bom eu mesmo fazer a tradução das mensagens.

Nuno Nunes (Obrigado Nuno!, sua tradução e adaptação do Script ficou 
perfeita!) fez a tradução das mensagens do Script em Perl para o idioma 
pt_PT (Português de Portugal) enquando eu inclui o suporte ao pt_BR 
(português do Brasil). 

O suporte ao idioma Português no DebianDoc é o primeiro a incluir 
suporte a idiomas de 2 paises diferentes (Brasil e Portugal). O 
DebianDoc utiliza a variável de ambiente LANG para saber qual idioma 
utilizar por padrão na geração de documentos. A configuração no 
DebianDoc foi definida para a seguinte:

Se lang=

pt  = Será utilizada a tradução de Nuno (Portugal)
pt_BR   = Brasil
pt_BR.ISO8859-1 = Brasil
pt_PT   = Portugal
pt_PT.ISO8859-1 = Portugal

A versão atual do DebianDoc é a 1.1.26. Acredito que estas alterações 
entrem na versão 1.1.28 (ou 29), por causa de um bug que descobri na
versão 1.1.26 no arquivo debiandoc2latex2e.

obrigado a:

Nuno Faria
Nuno Miguel Fernandes
Nuno Nunes
Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe
Salvador Pinto Abreu

por responderem a mensagem. Estive comentando com Nuno Nunes sobre as
diferenças entre o Português do brasil e o Português de Portugal, e
enviei uma mensagem aos mantedores da Debian sobre a possibilidade 
de incluir o suporte por países ao invés de ser por idiomas no pacote 
boot-floppies, assim poderiamos também colocar o suporte ao 
Português de Portugal no boot-floppies. O que acham?

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Primeira versão do manual oficial do manual de instalação da Debian em Português

1999-07-22 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Ola para todos,

Já enviei o manual de instalação em Português para o CVS da Debian, e 
ele já esta disponível no boot-floppies da Slink (será colocado na 
potato em breve, porque a área trunk ainda não está liberada para
documentação, somente para binários do dbootstrap).

O arquivo lang_pt.h traduzido pela equipe do Linux Labs também esta lá.

Enviei uma cópia da versão oficial em formato texto e HTML para Paulo 
Henrique Batista, ele colocará em breve na sua página para 
disponibilizar a todos.

O manual de instalação da Debian traz explicações sobre a instalação
em sistemas Alpha, Intel x86, Motorola (m68k, Atari, Amiga, Macintosh), 
e Sparc. Atualmente a Debian é a única distribuição que tem suporte a 
mais arquiteturas (e na Potato serão implementadas oficialmente mais 3: 
Arm, Powerpc e Mips).

Eu identifiquei as diferentes versões do manual de instalação pela 
seguinte forma:

install.pt-alpha.txt  ==manual de instalação para sistemas Alpha
install.pt-i386.txt   ==manual de instalação para sistemas Intel 
(386..)
install.pt-m68k.txt   ==manual de instalação para sistemas Motorola
install.pt-sparc.txt  ==manual de instalação para sistemas Sparc

Se você tiver um computador 386, 486, Pentium, etc, então
pegue a versão que tem um i386 no meio do nome. 

Estão disponíveis também as versões em HTML (que acho bem mais práticas
caso tiver um navegador, porque clicando nas URLs você será levado
a página correspondente).

Existem também a versão para PowerPc na Slink, mas ainda não foi 
amplamente testada e pode conter muitas falhas, mas se alguém desejar 
envio diretamente.

Ainda tenho que fazer algumas pequenas correções no manual de instalação 
e adaptar as URLs para servidores Brasileiros (alguém sabe por qual 
motivo o servidor ftp.br.debian.org não está funcionando? tentei copiar 
arquivos no final de semana e hoje e algumas horas se encontrava fora de
funcionamento).

Se alguém encontrar algum problema com o manual, envie uma mensagem para
a lista debian-l10n-portuguese alertando sobre o fato ou diretamente 
para meu E-Mail.

Fiz a tradução dos documentos release-notes e dselect-beginner segunda e
terça feira passada, sinceramente eu não conheço bem o programa dselect 
(utilizo o dpkg diretamente, gosto de quebrar a cabeça com as 
dependências dos pacotes ;) ) por causa disso é possível que ele tenha 
algumas falhas (alguém que conheçe bem o dselect e que tem tempo pode 
revisar este documento?).

A tradução do manual de instalação em Portugues está baseada na versão
1.77 do manual de instalação original (Inglês), a mais atual. Vou
atualiza-la semanalmente assim que ocorrerem modificações. 

Resolvi acompanhar o sistema de revisões com a versão Inglêsa. Assim 
se a versão em Inglês é 1.77 e a em português também é 1.77, você pode 
ter certeza que está usando a versão mais atual do manual de 
instalação em Portugues.

Tenho orgulho de dizer que a documentação em Português é a mais 
atualizada no momento. As maiores alterações stão ocorrendo na 
documentação para plataformas não-Intel (principalmente
a m68k, porque a documentação não detalhava todos os sistemas (como
o VME e VMEbus)).

A tradução do lang_pt.h também está acompanhando a tradução do original
em inglês juntamente com a versão em russo (ru) e slovaka(sk), e 
fiz a atualização de sua versão incluindo as mensagens de seleção de
teclado em Português.


Divirtam-se!


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RES: Alguém de Portugal na lista?

1999-07-22 Thread Leandro Dutra
 Se lang=
 
 pt= Será utilizada a tradução de Nuno (Portugal)

Como filho de professores de Português, até simpatizo com a decisão
porque provavelmente o texto do Português europeu será mais castiço que o do
Português brasileiro; mas em termos de quantidade de usuários, será que pt
não deveria mapear-se para pt_BR?


Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs (Brasil) Ltda


Corel + Debian +KDE ????

1999-07-22 Thread Arjen v. V.
Hi all,

I've heard that Corel is preparing to launch a new Distibution, with the
coöperation of Debian and KDE.
Does anybody know anything more about that?
Does also anybody knows when and if Corel is releasing Office 2000 ánd
Coreldraw 9 for Linux.

Thanx in advance,
Greetings Arjen.



music notation software for Linux

1999-07-22 Thread Benjamin E Frame


Does anyone know of any decen music notation software for Linux???  I'm
looking for something with a good GUI and that is easy to learn.  Any
suggestions are appreciated!!!


Ben



Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread Michael Merten
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 01:14:43PM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
 On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Chris Beaumont wrote:
 
  Basically what I'm looking for is a workhorse editor that I can use as
  my main HTML tool.
  
  Is there anything Linux-friendly with anything approaching the feature
  set of the program that I am used to, BBEdit on the Power Macintosh...
 
 You might give bluefish a look.
 
I have no idea what BBEdit is, but there are a few packages that at
least attempt to edit HTML.  If you haven't already, take a look at
amaya and august.  I tried the briefly, but I prefer to us vi(elvis)
which does html syntax hi-lighting. :)

Mike  

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Re: Mcopy

1999-07-22 Thread Doug Young
Thanks Tyler  another example of the problems newbies face
with present documentation


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 its 'a:' not '/dev/fd0;


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 On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Doug Young wrote:

  A number of people who have been trying to help me figure out
  configuration issues have asked me to email them a copy of this
  or that file. Initially I tried copying directly from Debian
  to a DOS formatted floppy but for some reason this made the floppy
  inaccessible to DOS / Windows. Soemone then suggested using mcopy
  which is supposed to do the job.
 
  I can't figure how to use it though . MAN mcopy says to type
  something like eg mcopy -t/resolv.conf /dev/fd0 but that only gives
  me Can't open /dev/fd0/resolv.conf: Not a directory
 
  Of course it isn't a directory  its a file, so what am I doing wrong
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Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:11:58 -0400, Buddha Buck wrote:

What is there that BBEdit can do that Emacs can't?

Emacs isn't an editor.

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Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread Steve Udell
There is BlueFish html editor, nice free, we got a .deb of it in potato
and CoffeeCup (demo free) 40 doller comercial full verion www.coffeecup.com

Steve

Buddha Buck wrote:
 
 Steve Lamb said:
 
  On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:24:46 -0700, Chris Beaumont wrote:
 
  Is there anything Linux-friendly with anything approaching the feature
  set of the program that I am used to, BBEdit on the Power Macintosh...
 
  No.
 
 What is there that BBEdit can do that Emacs can't?
 
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Re: Debian Install woes..

1999-07-22 Thread Michael Merten
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 01:41:20PM -0700, Steven Klass wrote:
 Hey all.
 
 Ok, I installed Debian without a hitch, and then deselect came into play.
 Here is the problems that I ran into, when trying something different, and
 maybe you guys can help me out a bit.
 
 I ran the standard install using the install disks (Binary - The orange
 one).  When it came time for me to select which type of install I wanted, I
 chose Basic - because I want the freedom to pick and choose which debs I
 want later.  I know I could have done custom, but hey I'm also relatively
 lazy in scrolling through some 1500 debs:)  Anyway it was time for the
 reboot.  After I rebooted, I picked my root passwd and established a user,
 and then dselect came up.  The screen prior to it stated that just use
 Access, Install, and Configure, because I had already picked the debs to
 install.  Makes sense.  So since I rebooted and I saw that it found my nic,
 why not use the ftp access option and get the latest and greatest right?  I
 ftp'd to Debian and bam I was instantly downloading the latest and greatest
 stuff.  Way cool.
 
 Install - Oh CRAP!!  Error after error after error, and then finally sorry
 dpkg stated too many errors.  OK, now what.  Since the errors were so many,
 and so frequent I could only catch glimpses of the error codes.  Namely
 ncurses comes to mind.  Obviously configure won't work, and it didn't, I
 tried.  What did I do wrong?  It would appear that I was supposed to install
 form the CD, but where on the CD are these files?  I didn't see them.  And
 since I can't do what I tried, it should have been in the docs not to do
 that.  Has anyone else seen this problem?  TIA, much appreciated.
 

When installing lots of files (which you're trying to do), the ftp
method for dselect can run into problems with dependencies.  I'd
suggest you download and install apt manually, then start dselect,
go to the [A]ccess menu and select the apt method.

As far as your current problem, you can try running dselect-install
again (sometimes it takes several passes to get everything worked
out right).

HTH,
Mike

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Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-22 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:12:22 -0400 (EDT), William T Wilson wrote:

The problem is that, although Pine manages to set the in-reply-to:
headers, etc. it does not give the user an opportunity to edit them - even
if you turn on full header mode.

Not even if you explicitely tell it that it is one of the headers you
want to edit?

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Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread wim
I am doing quite a bit of web stuff now, but up until now have been doing it
through an xterm-telnet to web server-joe, black on white.  I tried BlueFish,
but the preview in netscape button caused it to crash.

I would not mind something that could:
1. Gives color coding
2. Be good for perl AND html AND cgi AND javascript (I doubt I'll get all 4)
3. Let me save to a web server.
4. The only time I save stuff locally is for graphics, which I upload via ftp.

Is there something that will do most of this?  the color coding would be nice.
-

On 21-Jul-99 Sean wrote:
 I don't know what features BBEdit has, but when I'm doing HTML stuff in X I
 like to
 use WebMaker as an editor.  Bluefish is also pretty nice, but it doesn't yet
 have
 syntax highlighting, which I'm pretty much hooked on.
 
[snip]
 I know that WebMaker has a preview button that will open up Netscape (or
 anyother
 browser you want to specify), and I believe Bluefish has this capability as
 well, but
 I'm not sure as I don't use it (the editor) very often.
 
 I also don't know about the template or preprocessor abilities of either
 editor, as
 these are features that I don't yet require.
 
 Sean
 
 Chris Beaumont wrote:
 
 Hello,

   I'm just curious what people are using to write HTML with on Debian,

 The available editors ive tried so far all seem *so* clunky and unsuited
 to the task...  cut and paste works irregularly if at all, no facilities
 for previewing.. etc.  Am I missing some obvious choice? Ive used
 Gxedit, nedit, thisedit, thatedit..

 Basically what I'm looking for is a workhorse editor that I can use as
 my main HTML tool.

 Is there anything Linux-friendly with anything approaching the feature
 set of the program that I am used to, BBEdit on the Power Macintosh...

 Any suggestions are welcome..  I'm also looking for HTML template and
 preprocessor solutions...

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Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Andrei Ivanov wrote:

 XEmacs works for me, but if your system is low-memory (less than 16M),
 you might use something else. No idea what, though, since I never had that
 problem.
 Andrew
 

www.coffeecup.com


OK


Suggestion for Newbie Support

1999-07-22 Thread Nate Duehr
In the ongoing discussion surrounding how to best support newer Debian
Linux users, a couple of comments:

1. For those volunteering to work on various FAQ documents.  Try to
get your work into the true Debian FAQ's and not some strange offshoot
FAQ only available on the web somewhere.  It's going to make Debian that
much better and many more copies of the info will be out there in the
end result.

2. Posting a large FAQ to the list regularly is a bad idea for those who
have to pay for bandwidth.  Perhaps an auto-posting every once in a
while with a URL and instructions on where to find the official FAQ's
would be useful, but if someone's done their homework, they'll already
have read the official FAQ info and will remember where they saw the
question answered anyway.

3. The IRC servers available for Debian have EXCELLENT support tools,
including a couple of indispensable infobots named dpkg and apt.  Dpkg
helps people look for .deb's in the unstable or stable trees, and apt is
an infobot that has been taught a wealth of things.  For example,
sending a message to the apt bot saying apt, slink-potato? will get
you info on upgrading from slink to potato.  For those that have never
been on IRC, the people there are just as friendly and helpful as the
folks on debian-user.  Use irc.debian.org or better yet, one of the
mirrors that's close to you... more info is on the debian Web pages.

4. Bandwidth: Don't copy the entire message inline that you're replying
to!  We don't all need to read it again, just clip enough to remind us
of the question and answer it.  Simple netiquette.

5. People answering questions should try to use references to on-line
documentation whenever possible.  Any person who's got half of this
stuff memorized is doing a disservice to a new person by simply
answering the question without showing that person WHERE to learn it the
next time.  (But I'm guilty of this one myself.)

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FW: Sparc IPX mouse issue

1999-07-22 Thread Mike Lieberman
I'm an idiot. :-) A close reading of the dev shows...

/dev/sunmouse !

Sorry for the waste of bandwidth.

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-Original Message-
From: Mike Lieberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 3:41 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: Sparc IPX mouse issue


On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Leen Besselink wrote:


 On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Mike Lieberman wrote:

  We are having problems getting Debian to see/find/use the Sun mouse
  connected to our type 5 keyboard.
 
  gpmcongif wants to find /dev/mouse which doesn't exist.
 
  Xwindows won't run for the same reason.
 
  We know the mouse is working as we have Solaris on this box and
 the mouse
  was just fine.
 
  Anyone using a Sparc IPX have any ideas?

 well, I can tell you... /dev/mouse is one most systems... maybe all, I
 don't know... just a like to the real device... and IPX is ps/2 right ?

 maybe it's: /dev/ps1 ? although I'm not much of a Sun user...
 hope this helps somehow.


IPC uses a three button ps/2 style but I have no idea if the pinout and the
signalling at the same. A dump of the vdir command on /dev directoy from
this box is available on ftp.netwright.net as dev-out.txt. There is no
/dev/mouse, no /dev/ps1 or ps2 or anything eles that makes sense to me.


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Re: PPP Connection Problems

1999-07-22 Thread John Hasler
Keith G. Murphy writes:
 ...does he want the modem echoing at all?

It does no harm.


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Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)

1999-07-22 Thread Doug Young
I think I posted a response to this already, but if not here it is.
From a newbie point of view, the actual root of the problem
faced by newbies in trying to come to grips with any unix
based operating system is NOT that there is insufficient
documentation ... but rather that there is TOO MUCH,
and that the vast majority of that has been written by experts
FOR experts !!!

Will  someone PLEASE get the message that the present
format of MAN, HOWTO, and other stuff is NOT intelligible
to the majority of newbies, and that is why there are so many
postings on stuff regarded as trivial by experts !!!


- Original Message -
From: Michael Stenner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Patrick Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian-User List debian-user@lists.debian.org;
debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines (ITP)


 On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 03:58:22PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
  If anyone has a few links that they think every newbie should have read,
  please let me know and while I may not be able to package them, I'll
  definitesly host them.

 I'd definitely be willing to maintain such a thing.  It would require
 more input from others than the standard package, though, so I think
 the idea of a dedicated web page maintainer and a dedicated package
 maintainer would probably work well.

 I'm excited.  This sounds like fun!  I have lots of ideas, too.

 -Michael

   Quoting Colin Marquardt([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
* Stephan Engelke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
 the most common problem I have encountered when suggesting Linux
as an
 OS to other people is, that even though there is a wealth of docs
out
 there, new users don't know where to look for them.  Newbies need
to
 be told
   
Indeed. Going a slight bit astray from the original topic, I´d
suggest
to add a few lines to /etc/motd, like:
   
If you are a new user to Linux, you´ll want to read the New-User
Guide. Do a `more /usr/share/doc/new-user-guide.txt'.
   
This new-user-guide.txt would be a required package, and consist of
just a few pointers to the most important information, and with the
exact steps on how to read this information with a standard Debian
installation.
   
This would also help in reducing the traffic on this and other
lists,
IMO.
   
Colin
  
   Very good idea, Colin.  That would be _much_ better than a weekly
   posting to the list!  We would have to find a Maintainer to package
   it, of course.

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Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines

1999-07-22 Thread Martin Bialasinski

Hi,

this is my proposal for a posting, it got longer than intended, but it 
is a good one, I believe (corrections welcomed).

It is too long for a weekly posting, but it is a good welcome mail one 
should get on subscription. And it can be made available on the net
(and in a newbie-doc package).

I will see, if I can extract a (at most) two pages version for a
weekly posting.

Ciao,
Martin


HOW TO DEAL WITH YOU DEBIAN PROBLEM

Something doesn't work like it should? You spend some hours and still
no go? You are frustrated,and you want to post to debian-user for
help?

This is OK, and if follow a few rules, you are also likely to receive
good help. 

Keep clam. Doing something in stress is never helpful when trying
to solve a problem. Drink some tea, go for a walk. 


  Did you check the right spots for help?

The documentation is found in /usr/doc/package/, keep an eye for a
file called README.Debian. It can contain tips and special options
used for the package. 

General documentation is in the HOWTO documents in /usr/doc/HOWTO/.
If you have the dhelp package installed, call dhelp to read it in the
browser. The dwww package will also give you access all documentation
available on your system, so install it.

Check the manual pages. man command or man configfile will show
you how to use a program. Under X, tkman is a nicer way to access
this.

Use the apropos command to look for a keyword in the manpage
description (dwww has fulltext search).

$ apropos password
chage (1)- change user password expiry information
chpasswd (8) - update password file in batch
dpasswd (8)  - change dialup password

Then read the manpage with man 8 chpasswd.

Use www.dejanews.com. They also archive the Debian mailinglists, so
try a few keyword.

Extra tip: A good reading for new Linux users is the Debian Tutorial
at http://www.debian.org/~hp/debian-tutorial.html

http://packages.debian.org will help you if you are looking for some
file, program or package.


   So still no go, and you want to post to debian-user?

Ok, you read some documentation and found things that will help you in
the future, but the problem at hand still persists. The bunch at the
Debian userlist is helpful, but the mailvolume is high, so you should
follow the following rules when posting to debian-user - it will help
you get your answers faster, and it will help everyone who answers
postings.

- Start a new thread

When you post a question, don't kidnap a thread by pressing reply, 
killing the text and filling you question. 

Your question will appear as part of some thread, so it may be missed
by someone who could help you, but ignored this thread.

Instead, mail your question to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This will start your own thread.

- Choose your subject wisely

Many user just browse the list of subjects, and pick the mails about a 
topic they know or are interested in.

So HELP is not a good subject, Proftpd doesn't allow anon
access is.

It also features a wise to do thing. It lists the packagename in the
subject. If a maintainer browses the subject list, he usually
configured the reader to highlight threads about his packages.

So this helps to bring your question to the attention of the right
people. 

Don't post unrelated questions in one mail. Better split it in
multiple mails.  

- Keep the form

Keeping an eye on the form of your posting will allow easier reading,
and will enhance your chances of getting an answer.

o Turn of HTML
o Turn of vcard, ms-tnef and such
o Wordwrap your posting at around 70 characters
o Seperate your signature with -- , this wil allow a program to hide 
  it and exclude it on replys automatically 

When replying

o Shorten the citation, only leave the relevant parts you are
  answering to (= no fullquote, don't quote the signature)

o You can use elipsis like

  [... ppp log ...]
  
  Your logfile looks OK to me, maybe the problem is at ...

o Don't answer on top of the cited (full)quote. Insert your answer
  after the part you are answering to. You read from top to down,
  right? This makes it easier to follow the thoughts, as a reader
  doesn't have to switch between the reply and the part it relates to
  (which he has to find).  

   NO: YES:
  Hi, Hi,
 
  It is set to no. John wrote:
  This is set to yes.  What is the value of option foo? 

  Thanks, Joe It is set to no.

  --   And what about option bar?
   My random sig   
  This is set to yes.  
  - 
   John wrote:   Thanks, Joe
   What is the value of option foo?  -- 
   And what about option bar? My random sig

Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread William Park
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 11:24:46AM -0700, Chris Beaumont wrote:
 Hello,
 
   I'm just curious what people are using to write HTML with on Debian, 
 
 The available editors ive tried so far all seem *so* clunky and unsuited
 to the task...  cut and paste works irregularly if at all, no facilities
 for previewing.. etc.  Am I missing some obvious choice? Ive used
 Gxedit, nedit, thisedit, thatedit..
 
 Basically what I'm looking for is a workhorse editor that I can use as
 my main HTML tool.

I use 'vim' but others use 'emacs'.  Syntax coloring looks cool at
first, but after awhile it gives you headache.  On Linux, you are
pretty much limited to either vi-clones or emacs-clones.

 
 Is there anything Linux-friendly with anything approaching the feature
 set of the program that I am used to, BBEdit on the Power Macintosh...
 
 Any suggestions are welcome..  I'm also looking for HTML template and
 preprocessor solutions...
 
 Thank you!*
 
 Chris Beaumont
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Re: Debian Install woes..

1999-07-22 Thread Carl Mummert

Don't panic.


If the system is letting you log in, then no permanent damage is
done (i.e. you DON'T need to reinstall everything.)

Here's what to do:

See if you have the 'script' command available; it is in a base package,
but onot priority essential, so you may or may not have it.  If you don't
have it, then download the bsdutils_???.deb (I don't know the version)
from the main/binary-i386/basesubdir of your favorite debian distribution
(you can try 'find /cdrom -name 'bsduti*'' to see if its on the cdrom, 
after you mount the cdrom on /cdrom).  

Once you have script available ( it's /usr/bin/script), run it
as root, then go into dselect and re-run the dselect 'configure'
option'.  Type 'exit' to kill the shell that script started, and you will see a 
message that the output file is 'typescript'.

Mail this file to the debian-user list, and we will comment on how to fix
things.   Note that, depending on what access emthod you chose in 
dselect, you may have to iterate the 'install' option a few times before
everything will install successfully.  This is fixed with apt, since
apt knows what order to isntall things in.  The older install methods
install things in the wrong order, so you have to choose 'install' over
and over. 


But, do the script thing. mail it in, and we will try to help you.

Carl


Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread Steve Lamb
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I would not mind something that could:
1. Gives color coding
2. Be good for perl AND html AND cgi AND javascript (I doubt I'll get all 4)
3. Let me save to a web server.
4. The only time I save stuff locally is for graphics, which I upload via ftp.

Is there something that will do most of this?  the color coding would be nice.

vim, with some hacking.

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HP Laserjet 1100

1999-07-22 Thread Dominic Beecher
Petru

* From: Petru NOTINGHER [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have a HP1100 Printer + Scanner. I use magicfilter to 
 print, but the best resolution I got is only 300 dpi 
 (with the laserjetplus filter), whilst the printer 
 supports 600 dpi.
  
 Does anybody knows what filter should be used for a
 better resolution on this printer?

I'm thinking of buying a Laserjet 1100 myself, so I was
doing a bit of browsing in DejaNews yesterday. This is from
there (comp.os.linux.hardware back in March I think): hope
it gives you some hints.

---included stuff---

  Has anyone got this printer working properly with 
  ghostscript 5.10+? Taking a look at the 1100's page on 
  HP and the ghostscript homepage, I see that the 1100 
  supports PCL5e, whereas most of the  laserjets that 
  ghostscript supports seem to be PCL3. I'm not too sure 
  of the compatibilities between PCL5e and PCL3.. anyone 
  got any experience with it?
 
 Well, part way.  I'm running gs-aladdin 5.50 (Debian 
 packaging).  The printer is run via apsfilter, set up for 
 PCL4.  Seems to work fine, if no fireball. It would be 
 much faster to have a true PostScript printer (like at 
 work). No real complaints so far, though.  Nice printing. 
 If it is more reliable than the Brother printer that it 
 replaced, I will be quite satisfied.
 
I have a HP 1100A and its has been working perfectly
using the HP Laserjet 4/5/6 selection from the RedHat
printer control panel, which of course sets up the
ghostscript preamble.

Here is my /etc/printcap

##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL ljet4 600x600 a4 {} LaserJet4
Default 1
page1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/page1:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/page1/filter:
##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL ljet4 600x600 a4 {} LaserJet4
Default 1
page2:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/page2:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/page2/filter:

---end included stuff---

BTW, here's the original URL if you want to check back over
the thread.

http://x21.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=457034208search=threadCONTEXT=932512608.720109754HIT_CONTEXT=932512531.789381182HIT_NUM=hitnum=2

If this helps to get your printer going properly, I'd be
grateful if you'd let me know; also, any comments (good or
bad) on the HP 1100 would be welcomed.

 And, by the way, can the scanner be used under Linux ?

Dunno. Sorry.

Cheers

Dominic

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ªv¤j°ê­Y²i¤pÂA  Ruling a large state is like cooking a
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Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-22 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists
Date: Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 05:12:22PM -0400

In reply to:William T Wilson

Quoting William T Wilson([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Wayne Topa wrote:
 
  I just did an informal survey on which mailer program by those 
  offenders are using.  
  
  Pine8
 
 As a long-time Pine user (check the headers) I must confess that I have
 been occasionally guilty of the same offense.
 
 The problem is that, although Pine manages to set the in-reply-to:
 headers, etc. it does not give the user an opportunity to edit them - even
 if you turn on full header mode.
 
 If there's a way to get at that particular header, please, let me know.
 
 Which means that the uses is responsible for adding the mailing list to
 his address book, remembering the list address (heh), or... screwing up
 the threads.
 
  Might it be that these mail programs have poor docs?  Might it be that
  the people that use them don't realize how badly these posts mess up
 
 That's part of it (both of them).
 
  the display of good MUA's.  Might it be OK for me to recommend that
  they take a look at mutt.

So, are there any Pine experts out there that have figured out a
'good' way to edit the Full Headers?  I must confess that all
my experiences with Pine have been purged.

With mutt its easy, ,L to reply to a list, ,r to reply to an person,
and m  to start a new mail.  I would have thought Pine had a way to
generate a new mail.  Humm, it can only reply?

Well anyway, thanks for trying anyway.

Wayne

 
 Bah.
 

-- 
Real computer scientists don't program in assembler.  They don't write
in anything less portable than a number two pencil.
___
Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]


WP font

1999-07-22 Thread Micha Feigin
For some reson WordPerfect 8 gives only one font option: Courier 10p.
Originaly it gave me an option of several fonts.
I am using the free version.
Anyone has any idea why, or how to fix this?
Thanx
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: Suggestion for Newbie Support

1999-07-22 Thread Carley, Jason \(Australia\)
Good note Nate,


1. For those volunteering to work on various FAQ documents.  Try to
get your work into the true Debian FAQ's and not some strange offshoot
FAQ only available on the web somewhere.  

The only problem I see with this is that the current FAQ's are highly
technical and prepared by people who clearly know a lot about debian.
Sometimes this leads to a style and content which is not really newbie
friendly IMHO. It can be hard to see how a newbie guide could be
incorporated into some of the established FAQ's.

2. Posting a large FAQ to the list regularly is a bad idea for those who
have to pay for bandwidth.  

Good point. 

3. The IRC servers available for Debian have EXCELLENT support tools,
including a couple of indispensable infobots named dpkg and apt.  Dpkg
helps people look for .deb's in the unstable or stable trees, and apt is
an infobot that has been taught a wealth of things.  

Again a great suggestion.  The problem is that a newbie is unlikely to use
an IRC infobot for the real basics.

4. Bandwidth: Don't copy the entire message inline that you're replying
to!  We don't all need to read it again, just clip

:-)

5. People answering questions should try to use references to on-line
documentation whenever possible.  

Some of the best answers here essentially show a newbie how to find it out
for themselves but also answer the question posed by the poster. This means
they get the problem sorted out quickly but also gain the tools they need to
answer their own questions in the future.

Good post, thanks.

Jason.


errors

1999-07-22 Thread steve j. kondik
im getting this when i try dselect install:

Preparing to replace libc6 2.1.1-12 (using .../libc6_2.1.1-13_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.1.1-13_i386.deb
(--unpack):
 unable to fsync updated status of ibc6': Input/output error
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.1.1-13_i386.deb
Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
E: Sub-process returned an error code (1)

help?

-steve


Re: music notation software for Linux

1999-07-22 Thread Matthew Dalton
Okay, its not exactly what you asked for...

The musixtex package for TeX can be used to typeset music. There is a
.deb for it in the non-free section. There is also the documentation
package - musictex-doc (also in non-free).

Matthew

Benjamin E Frame wrote:
 
 Does anyone know of any decen music notation software for Linux???  I'm
 looking for something with a good GUI and that is easy to learn.  Any
 suggestions are appreciated!!!
 
 Ben
 
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Re: Relaying from a remote machine with exim

1999-07-22 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 Patrick == Patrick Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Patrick I want exim on my home machine to relay mail from the whole
Patrick 212.19.64.x and 212.19.67.x so my email does not appear to
Patrick have a spoofed header and go into spam folders on friends
Patrick machines.  [I tend to move desk a bit].

I don't know what relaying has to do with your headers, but anyways:

Patrick sender_net_accept_relay = 10.0.0.0/24:212.19.0.0/32

This will add the IP 212.19.0.0 (32 bits in the netmask mean a exact
IP).

If you want to add the two nets, add 212.19.64.0/24:212.19.67.0/24

Ciao,
Martin


Re: 3Com 509B Ethernet card working in Windows but not in Linux

1999-07-22 Thread Dan Brosemer
Only problem I've ever had with a 509B was that it was configured to use the
BNC port when I had a TP network and vice-versa.  Check that this is not the
case.

Also, if you have only one network card in your system, it's perfectly safe
to compile the 905B support _into_ the kernel rather than as a module which
will save you a little trouble if you're a newbie.

Try checking for IRQ/IO conflicts.  The card has two modes:  A pnp mode and
a legacy mode.  For simplicity's sake, try putting it in legacy mode and
give it IO and IRQ settings that work in windows.  Now try it in linux.

That's about all I can think of now.  HTH

-Dano

On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 08:32:39PM +0200, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:

 Hi,
 
 According to the Hardware-HOWTO Linux should support the 3Com  509B 
 Ethernet card. When I try to install the driver I get an error and during 
 booting a line appear:
 
 eth0 unknown interface  /* something like that */
 
 In Windows 95 the card funktion and I can ping it from my Mac via the 
 local network. I's a Pentium 133 MHz system i'm installing on.
 
 Any tips?
 
 TIA
 
 Regards,
 Fredrik Jonsson
 
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[Fwd: Lynx Problems]

1999-07-22 Thread Doug Young
Those who have been pondering my Lynx problems might care to comment on
this message I received from a guy who answered a post elsewhere. If he
is correct, it appears that I may have been trying to do something that
even experts would find difficult.


   Subject: 
Re: lynx configuration
   Date: 
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:02:19 -0400 (EDT)
   From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 
Doug Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]




hello,

now i understand the source of your problem.   you are trying to use a
copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux.   just a suggestion,
linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself.  
almost
every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more
then a casual experience with it.   when you see people talking about
using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet
provider where the copy of linx resides.   there computer is in fact
operating that computer remotely; so a command made on their computer
goes
over the phone line through the modem and is recieved and performed by
the
remote computer.   what ever results from that command appears on the
local computer.   if you really want to use linux and operate a copy of
linx on it, you need help from someone who knows the linux operating
system and how to set things up.   i have only a minimal knowledge of
linux.   a second choice is to find a copy of linx which operates either
under dos or windows, such do exist.   a third way to use linx is as i
do
and as i have just described above, to use my computer to operate a
remote
computer which has linx on it.   if you want to pursue using linx on
linux, i can direct you to a group of blind linux users.   let me know,

dan

On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Doug Young wrote:

  what i had you do was the most basic function in lynx.  my thought at this
  time is that the particular copy your isp is using is bad,
 
 I got the Debian CD set including Lynx from LSL (http:..www.lsl.com.au) so
 the server isn't involved in any way.
 
 possibly mis-compiled.
 
 I wouldn't have the faintest idea about compiling anything  Lynx was
 just an option to select in Debians dselect utility so thats where it came
 from. I didn't get any dialog or config script / instructions / whatever
 
   if you give directly an url such as i had you do, a start
  file is not needed.  have you consulted with your isp about this?
 
 I may be missing something here but I can't understand what the server has
 to do with Lynx not running on a local box . every application I run on
 Windows, Mandrake,  Solaris boxes works fine so I don't think its a server
 problem
 
 lynx is quite straight forward in use and function and is very stable in
  operation, thus i feel it is in the specific copy you are trying to use.
 
 Someone instructed me how to tell what version .. turned out to be the
 current one, but due to the total absence of intelligible documentation I
 don't have any idea what its even supposed to look like in action
 
  do i assume correctly that you are using lynx via a modem using your
  computer as a terminal
 
 hey I'm a newbie at this stuff  I wouldn't know a terminal if I tripped
 over one :(
 
  to run it on an isp's machine; and not using a copy of lynx that runs on
 your computer?
 
 Lynx is definitely installed on a local box, I didn't even realize it was
 possible to run it on another machine .. the Debian box will dialup to
 server and make a ppp connection thats about all it will do
 
  dan
 
 



Re: Suggestion for Newbie Support

1999-07-22 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 02:55:09PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:

 1. For those volunteering to work on various FAQ documents.  Try to
 get your work into the true Debian FAQ's and not some strange offshoot
 FAQ only available on the web somewhere.  It's going to make Debian that
 much better and many more copies of the info will be out there in the
 end result.

The relevant mailing list is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  See also the
DDP link from the devel section of the web site.

 2. Posting a large FAQ to the list regularly is a bad idea for those who
 have to pay for bandwidth.  Perhaps an auto-posting every once in a
 while with a URL and instructions on where to find the official FAQ's
 would be useful, but if someone's done their homework, they'll already
 have read the official FAQ info and will remember where they saw the
 question answered anyway.

A pointer could be added to the sig generated by the mailing list (to
unsubscribe...).

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Re: music notation software for Linux

1999-07-22 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: music notation software for Linux
Date: Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 05:04:03PM -0500

In reply to:Benjamin E Frame

Quoting Benjamin E Frame([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 
 Does anyone know of any decen music notation software for Linux???  I'm
 looking for something with a good GUI and that is easy to learn.  Any
 suggestions are appreciated!!!
 
 
 Ben

Well not being very musical, I can only offer this.  xcircuit.
Yea I know, it doesn't sound musical but the guy who wrote it
is.  The package is in slink.  Here is the web page to check it out
http://bach.ece.jhu.edu/~tim/programs/xcircuit/

Here is a clip from the readme

   The files psfiles/signal.lps and psfiles/musiclib.lps are examples
of alternate or additional object libraries.  The library file lgf.lps
is used primarily by the lgf-to-ps conversion routines, but has some
different circuit objects in it.

As I recall he even has an example sheet of music in the examples
dir.

HTH, YMMV, HAND
Wayne

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has limitations, software doesn't.  It's a real shame that Turing
machines are so poor at I/O.
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Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines

1999-07-22 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Date: Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 10:30:49PM +0200

In reply to:Martin Bialasinski

Quoting Martin Bialasinski([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  Wayne == Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Wayne Very good idea, Colin.  That would be _much_ better than a
 Wayne weekly posting to the list!  We would have to find a Maintainer
 Wayne to package it, of course.
 
 It can be an addition, a weekly post is good nevertheless. I will mail 
 my alternative soon.
 
 Ciao,
   Martin

Thank you Martin.  I have been waiting for someone like you to respond
to this thread!

As I mentioned to Michael, off list, if this gets going, it can do
nothing but enhance the Debian distribution.  

Helping out newcomers to 'nix and Debian especially, will do more for 
Debian then having 5K packages.  What good are they if he can't find
the information to get them to run.

I still feel, strongly, that a set of guidelines for submitting requests
for help be included in the project.  The crys for help with no
information, are really annoying.

Thanks again Martin.  I think we all look forward to your comments.

Regards

Wayne

-- 
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windows.
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Re: Problems with Adaptec 2940 U2W

1999-07-22 Thread Gareth
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Ming Poon wrote:
 I am just wondering if anyone is having problems with the AHA2940 U2W
 SCSI controller. The old AHA2940 UW (without the 2 in between the U and
 W) worked fine under my 2.2.9 kernel. Any system with a U2W in it just
 won't boot. Thanks.

What error message does it give (if any). Does it freeze? if so at what
point?

I have several of these cards one I have working (booting) and  another is
still a mystery.

---Gareth


Re: music notation software for Linux

1999-07-22 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Benjamin E Frame wrote:

 Does anyone know of any decen music notation software for Linux???  I'm
 looking for something with a good GUI and that is easy to learn.  Any
 suggestions are appreciated!!!

Click on Music Notation on this page:

http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/

...RickM...


Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines

1999-07-22 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 Martin == Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Martin Did you check the right spots for help?

[...]

Forgot about a thing for this part.

- Check the Bug Tracking System

Maybe the problem you encounter is a known bug?
http://bugs.debian.org/packagename will show you all reported bugs
for the package. Sometimes there is also a patch or workaround in the 
report, so it is worth a look.

Also you may find a bugs or todo file in /usr/doc/packagename/, so
check this as well. Maybe the thing you want to do is not possible.


apt-get: upgrade one package to particular version?

1999-07-22 Thread Carl Fink
I've installed apt-get.  It works great . . but.  (You knew there was
a but coming, right?)

If I want to upgrade one package, e.g. icewm, to the version in
unstable, the only way the man page seems to permit would be to edit
/etc/apt/sources.list so apt would look for *everything* in unstable,
install that one package, then re-edit the file . . . which would also
require running apt-get update twice, right? 

The man page makes it clear that you can't give apt a version number,
so is there any other way to tell it I just want this one package
from unstable, not everything.?

For that matter, what if I wanted an *older* version for some reason?
Would I have to specify that in sources.list as well?

Thanks for any answers.
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RE: Suggestion for Newbie Support

1999-07-22 Thread Doug Young
Hear hear . hope someone else takes this stuff on board  

   Date: 
 Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:08:46 +1000
From: 
 Carley, Jason \(Australia\)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 
 'Nate Duehr' [EMAIL PROTECTED],
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Good note Nate,

The only problem I see with this is that the current FAQ's are highly
technical and prepared by people who clearly know a lot about debian.
Sometimes this leads to a style and content which is not really newbie
friendly IMHO. It can be hard to see how a newbie guide could be
incorporated into some of the established FAQ's.


Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread Larry Huffman
Chris Beaumont writes:
  Hello,
  
  Basically what I'm looking for is a workhorse editor that I can use as
  my main HTML tool.

I use Emacs with html-helper-mode (http://www.santafe.edu/~nelson/tools/)

  Any suggestions are welcome..  I'm also looking for HTML template and
  preprocessor solutions...

Try htmlpp, an html preprocessor written in perl. Info at

http://www.imatix.com/html/htmlpp/index.htm
http://www.linuxjournal.com/issue44/2448.html

Larry


Re: How to switch off line buffering in stdin?

1999-07-22 Thread egm2
I am told ncurses is what you want to use for text screen programs.

On 21 Jul, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote:
  |  Hi All!
  |  
  |  I'm writing an application, which implements some terminal functionalities.
  |  I'd like to receive every keystroke, just after the key is pressed
  |  (like with vga_getkey(), but in text mode).
  |  The standard fgetc(stdin) receives the char only after the whole line is
  |  entered. The setvbuf(stdin,NULL,_IONBF,0); doesn't help at all.
  |  How to implement it? Probably I should use ioctls to change the console's
  |  behaviour. Where should I look for the information?

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Re: Corel + Debian +KDE ????

1999-07-22 Thread Ming Poon
Arjen v. V. wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've heard that Corel is preparing to launch a new Distibution, with the
 coöperation of Debian and KDE.
 Does anybody know anything more about that?

A preview will be shown in August 10th -12th in Linux World, followed by a beta 
in
early September, and a full product release by the end of November. The install 
is
already fairly simple at this stage. Basically 4 steps (essentially 4 enters 
and a
few characters) and 8 minutes later, you would have a Corel Debian Linux up and
running in graphics mode in Corel's enhanced KDE environment. There is a whole 
lot
more but I can't uncover the lid too much yet before Linux World. Come and 
visit us in
Linux World if you happen to be in the San Jose area.

 Does also anybody knows when and if Corel is releasing Office 2000 ánd
 Coreldraw 9 for Linux.

The current plan is to have a beta version of Corel Office For Linux available 
by the
end of November. If things go well, all of our presentations in Linux World 
(August
10-12) will also be based on the Linux version of Corel Presentation. Last 
time, we
had to use the Windows version of Corel Presentation ;-(. The Graphics suite is
planned for the summer of 2000. All this should be public knowledge already.

 Thanx in advance,
 Greetings Arjen.

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Re: FAQ for ipchains?

1999-07-22 Thread egm2
There's an IPCHAINS HOWTO. I have/had it on my system somewhere until
1/2 of the potato packages moved everything around to follow the new
/usr/share/doc policy.

On 21 Jul, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  |  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  |  
  |  
  |  I've checked my system and debian.org (did not seem to find anything
  |  helpful so far)
  |  I'm trying to use ipchains under 2.2.10(slink) to enable port forwarding
  |  into my private network, but I cannot seem to get anything working. I'm
  |  going so far off my old ipportfw scripts which still work with
  |  2.0.36(patched) and the ipmasq script which calls ipchains for me to
  |  handle masquerading.
  |  
  |  Could someone point me to a specific FAQ or HOWTO that can explain how to
  |  do what I want?
  |  
 
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X server for crappy Packard Hell machine

1999-07-22 Thread Stuart Ballard
Hi,

I have installed debian slink on an old Packard Hell computer. Most
things work fine, but the standard XF86_SVGA xserver appears to have
some problems - it works, sort of, but once the screen gets busy I get
random pixels going the wrong color. It appears as if video memory is
sometimes getting randomly corrupted. If I was running windows, I would
suspect a bad video driver - but I'm not running a video driver.

I am sure that this is a case of crappy hardware, but I also know that
windows managed to work around it somehow, so it can be done.

Since the only documentation I have on the hardware is a sticker on the
box which says 1Mb video memory upgradable to 2Mb, I configured X by
accepting all the defaults I could find, and probing for anything it
would let me probe for. This, of course, is probably what went wrong.

Does anyone have any tips on how I can figure out how X *should* have
been configured, or whether it would have been possible to use one of
the accelerated servers instead of the basic one?

Thanks a million,
Stuart.


Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread egm2
VIM does HTML text highlighting, runs in a terminal and it much easier
to learn and configure the all that emacs stuff. Just run your favorite
browser simultaneously, when you make changes to the page, reload it in
the browser.  It's not beautiful, but it works.  IMHO emacs tries to do
too much for its own good.
 
On 21 Jul, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
  |  XEmacs works for me, but if your system is low-memory (less than 16M),
  |  you might use something else. No idea what, though, since I never had that
  |  problem.
  |  Andrew
  |  
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  |   http://www.missouri.edu/~c680789  --Computer languages of the world
  | My work in progress.
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  |  
  |  

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Installation suggestion: recommend recompiling kernel

1999-07-22 Thread Stuart Ballard
Hi there,

I was just thinking about the fact that the answer to many questions
that I see on the list (mostly how do I get sound?) is recompile your
kernel. Also the fact that recompiling the kernel is pretty much
recommended in any situation.

It occurred to me that perhaps, after the rest of the installation is
finished, it might be possible to ask Recompiling your kernel is
required to enable sound and is recommended in any case in order to tune
the performance of your machine. Do you wish to configure and recompile
your kernel now? [default yes].
What version of the kernel would you like to install? [list of
available kernel-source versions]

Then, after [downloading and] installing kernel-source, you would be
dropped into a restricted version of make menuconfig - I say
restricted because many of the options are confusing to a newbie (if
you enable this option and type mknod bananana, you will get a device
/dev/ook. You can use ioctl on this file with the SIOCHEDGEHOG parameter
to move your computer through lspace and murder your grandfather) and
could be hidden behind an advanced tab somewhere. Even better, look at
the modules that were enabled when the user did their modconf and take
all the other modules out of the kernel by default. Also, some of the
modules could be defaulted to compiled in, when there are no parameters
needed.

The installation process could then run an appropriate make-kpkg and
dpkg command for you.

Of course, this whole sequence should be available again later by
running an appropriate command.

Thoughts?

Stuart.


Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines

1999-07-22 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 01:09:26AM +0200

In reply to:Martin Bialasinski

Quoting Martin Bialasinski([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 Hi,
 
 this is my proposal for a posting, it got longer than intended, but it 
 is a good one, I believe (corrections welcomed).
 
 It is too long for a weekly posting, but it is a good welcome mail one 
 should get on subscription. And it can be made available on the net
 (and in a newbie-doc package).
 
 I will see, if I can extract a (at most) two pages version for a
 weekly posting.
 
 Ciao,
   Martin

[ snip proposal ]

Yes!  A much improved one at that.  Thanks Martin, I hereby withdraw my
proposal in favor of yours.  I will send a diff in another mail.

Thanks

Wayne
-- 
One picture is worth 128K words.
___
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Re: apt-get: upgrade one package to particular version?

1999-07-22 Thread egm2
apt-get --install icewm

should be all you need to do.

On 21 Jul, Carl Fink wrote:
  |  I've installed apt-get.  It works great . . but.  (You knew there was
  |  a but coming, right?)
  |  
  |  If I want to upgrade one package, e.g. icewm, to the version in
  |  unstable, the only way the man page seems to permit would be to edit
  |  /etc/apt/sources.list so apt would look for *everything* in unstable,
  |  install that one package, then re-edit the file . . . which would also
  |  require running apt-get update twice, right? 
  |  
  |  The man page makes it clear that you can't give apt a version number,
  |  so is there any other way to tell it I just want this one package
  |  from unstable, not everything.?
  |  
  |  For that matter, what if I wanted an *older* version for some reason?
  |  Would I have to specify that in sources.list as well?
  |  
  |  Thanks for any answers.

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MAKEDEV

1999-07-22 Thread Chris Hoover
I'm having problems with MAKEDEV.  It will not create the devices for my scsi
tape.  In fact, it won't seem to create any devices.  I've tried running it
with scsi, st, nst, etc, and it does not seem to do anything.  Is there a
problem with the slink ver?  If not, how am I supposed to run it to create the
devices I need?

Thanks,

chris

 -- 
A fool must now and then be right by chance.


Re: [Fwd: Lynx Problems]

1999-07-22 Thread Michael Merten
On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 10:36:05AM +1000, Doug Young wrote:
 now i understand the source of your problem.   you are trying to use a
 copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux.   just a suggestion,
 linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself.  
 almost
 every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more
 then a casual experience with it.   when you see people talking about
 using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet
 provider where the copy of linx resides.   there computer is in fact

There may be a 'linx' program that he's talking about, but I've never
heard of it.  As far as 'lynx' goes, this info is bogus.

Mike

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Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines

1999-07-22 Thread Michael Merten
On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 01:09:26AM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
 
 It is too long for a weekly posting, but it is a good welcome mail one 
 should get on subscription. And it can be made available on the net
 (and in a newbie-doc package).

I noticed that the linux-kernel list does that... send you a FAQ with
the 'you are subscribed' notice.  Good idea.

Mike

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kde sources.list entry

1999-07-22 Thread egm2
I need a kde sources.list entry so I can use dselect/apt to get/update
kde packages in the U.S.  The ftp sites I've looked at don't seem to be
organized with Packages.gz files, so I can't get a whole list of
packages with descriptions. I can ftp the packages and install them
with dpkg, but I'd like to have the info in dselect.

Thanks,
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Re: X server for crappy Packard Hell machine

1999-07-22 Thread Michael Merten
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 10:15:15PM -0400, Stuart Ballard wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have installed debian slink on an old Packard Hell computer. Most
 things work fine, but the standard XF86_SVGA xserver appears to have
 some problems - it works, sort of, but once the screen gets busy I get
 random pixels going the wrong color. It appears as if video memory is
 sometimes getting randomly corrupted. If I was running windows, I would
 suspect a bad video driver - but I'm not running a video driver.
 
 I am sure that this is a case of crappy hardware, but I also know that
 windows managed to work around it somehow, so it can be done.
 
 Since the only documentation I have on the hardware is a sticker on the
 box which says 1Mb video memory upgradable to 2Mb, I configured X by
 accepting all the defaults I could find, and probing for anything it
 would let me probe for. This, of course, is probably what went wrong.
 
 Does anyone have any tips on how I can figure out how X *should* have
 been configured, or whether it would have been possible to use one of
 the accelerated servers instead of the basic one?


One thing I've found about Packard Bell that's nice...

If you go to their web site there's a section under customer service
(I think) where you can enter the serial number for your pc and get
some fairly detailed info about the hardware in it, right down to
the actual chipsets used.  It comes in really handy with the older
ones where documentation no longer exists.

HTH,
Mike
 
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Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread Hans van den Boogert
At 11:24 AM 7/21/99 -0700, you wrote:
Hello,

  I'm just curious what people are using to write HTML with on Debian, 

The available editors ive tried so far all seem *so* clunky and unsuited
to the task...  cut and paste works irregularly if at all, no facilities
for previewing.. etc.  Am I missing some obvious choice? Ive used
Gxedit, nedit, thisedit, thatedit..

Basically what I'm looking for is a workhorse editor that I can use as
my main HTML tool.

Is there anything Linux-friendly with anything approaching the feature
set of the program that I am used to, BBEdit on the Power Macintosh...

Any suggestions are welcome..  I'm also looking for HTML template and
preprocessor solutions...

Thank you!*

Chris Beaumont
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Look over here for downloads:
http://arctic.linuxberg.com/x11html/off_editors.html

-- Hans


Re: X server for crappy Packard Hell machine

1999-07-22 Thread Ben Lutgens
Actually, if you only have 1 MB of video RAM I would suggest picking up an 8
meg card some where for a nominal fee. X likes video ram. Also you may want to
get on the net and try to figure out what king of card you have.
http://www.windrivers.com/ has a great site for identifying your hardware
using pictures of the chipsets among other things. Then maybe you can select
the right settings in XF86Config. Also I think maybe you pixelation is
probably caused by the default color depth. try to set it to 16bpp or 24bpp
and see how that works. sounds to me like you may even have the XF86_VGA
server running and not know it.
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Re: Lynx Problems

1999-07-22 Thread Michael Merten
On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 04:41:52AM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 11:39:20AM +1000, Doug Young wrote:
  
  I don't even know if its running . all I can tell for sure is when I 
  type lynx something responds telling me its looking for server homepage, 
  but after a few mins gives up and says STARTFILE:richardson.apana.org.au
  not found
 
 OK, you are going to have to go into the /etc/lynx/cfg file.  There is line 
 near the top like this:
 
 STARTFILE:URL
 
 I suggest using a local file (else lynx won't start if you net connection is 
 down) so:
 
 STARTFILE:file://localhost/path/to/file.html
 
 alternatively you can specify a URL on the command line:
 
 bash$ lynx http://www.debian.org
 
 Basic lynx navigation:
[snipped]

Doug, if you're still having problems accessing urls with lynx,
here's something you might try.  Install the dnsutils package,
then try something like 'nslookup www.debian.org'.  If you get
a long pause, then an error about host not found, your reslover
configuration is not working correctly.  If, on the other hand,
it works ok, try 'lynx www.debian.org'.  Let us know the results
of both, so we can figure out which way to take it further.

Mike

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Re[2]: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines

1999-07-22 Thread Bob Bernstein
Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Martin Did you check the right spots for help?

9-) Did he ever get back to you?

My two cents, more aimed at the hyper-newbie, still in shock from being
confronted with a blank screen, a blinking cursor, and of all things (most
likely) one of those '#' thingies:

Most excellent:

DOS/Win to Linux HOWTO, by Guido Gonzato [EMAIL PROTECTED]. How to move
from DOS/Windows to Linux. Updated 22 February 1999. 

Whenever I help persuade a Windows user to try Linux I exact a promise from
them that they will buy a copy of Welsh and Kaufman's _Running Linux_ and keep
it either next to the keyboard or at least on the coffee table in front of the
TV so they can browse it during commercials while viewing their favorite
wrestling program or whutever.

Great job on your Newbie Help Guide! 


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Source looked silly to many last year; it's not looking so dumb
today... Christopher B. Browne
  
  
 




Re[2]: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines

1999-07-22 Thread Bob Bernstein
Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The crys for help with no information, are really annoying.

No. What is annoying is that despite the fact that several times in this
thread the point has been made that quoting a message in full is wrong, you
continue to do it.


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Re: 3Com 509B Ethernet card working in Windows but not in Linux

1999-07-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Evan Van Dyke wrote:

 1) insmoded the 3c509.o   module  -OR- compiled it hard into the kernel?
 2) if so, what does it say when the module is loaded/on boot up?
I had used several network adapters before.  Someone required to be
compiled hard into the kernel and someone as module to work without
further investigation.  The 3Com cards seem to tend to work better
as module for me.
Just try to compile it the other way you've done.

Kind regards

   Andreas.


Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines

1999-07-22 Thread virtanen
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Wayne Topa wrote:

  If you are a new user to Linux, you´ll want to read the New-User
  Guide. Do a `more /usr/share/doc/new-user-guide.txt'.
  
  This new-user-guide.txt would be a required package, and consist of
  just a few pointers to the most important information, and with the
  exact steps on how to read this information with a standard Debian
  installation.
  
  This would also help in reducing the traffic on this and other lists,
  IMO.
  
  Colin
 
 Very good idea, Colin.  That would be _much_ better than a weekly
 posting to the list!  We would have to find a Maintainer to package
 it, of course.  
 
 That gets my Vote!
 
 Wayne


My vote, too. 

hvirtane


Re: Partition table change

1999-07-22 Thread virtanen
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Keith G. Murphy wrote:

  That box of mine has got only debian. Will not let m$ and partition magic
  in.
  
 No problem.  What he's referring to is a standalone boot disk that you
 can create (you'd have to have a Win95 system somewhere that you can use
 to make it).  

I'm not so sure about that. All win95 done by some mysterious small
forgotten company, which invented the hard currency called m$ have already
long time ago vanished from this area. Probably because it was forbidden
to make any copies of them...  

 Once you have that,  you just boot off of it and
 PartitionMagic does its, well, magic.  (It brings up a sort of
 stripped-down Win95, apparently).  At least if it has the drivers for
 your disk devices.  I guess you might have problems if the drives hung
 off a SCSI controller or something.

Where to get that PaMa then, if I'll get from some soneaged forgotten cave
a win95? 

-
hv


Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines

1999-07-22 Thread wim

On 22-Jul-99 Wayne Topa wrote:
 Quoting Martin Bialasinski([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 this is my proposal for a posting, it got longer than intended, but it 
 is a good one, I believe (corrections welcomed).

 Yes!  A much improved one at that.  Thanks Martin, I hereby withdraw my
 proposal in favor of yours.  I will send a diff in another mail.
 
 Thanks
 
 Wayne
 -- 
 One picture is worth 128K words.

Hmmm... Maybe one of the artists on this list could convert the proposal into a
picture that would help a ton.  The debian.org webmaster could put a link
to it on the home page...

This is crazy :)

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dselect help for beginners

1999-07-22 Thread Michael Merten
After the recent uproar over dselect, I started looking for some
decent documentation that I could point to when someone was having
problems.  I found several documents in the .../disks-i386/current
directory on my local mirror:

   ch-dselect-intro.html
   ch-dselect-main.html
   ch-dselect-conclusion.html
   ch-dselect-glossary.html

   -and-

   dselect-beginner.html
   dselect-beginner.txt

They look pretty good, although they might not go into enough detail.
What would it take to get them included in the dpkg package to be
installed in /usr/doc/dpkg?  It would be much better to say 'look in
/usr/doc/dpkg' than to say 'check out http://ftp.debian.org/debian/
dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current'.  Any thoughts?

Mike

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Re: kde sources.list entry

1999-07-22 Thread Sean
I'm running potato and have the following line in my /etc/apt/sources.list file 
for
kde stuff:

deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde kde2 contrib

sean

egm2@jps.net wrote:

 I need a kde sources.list entry so I can use dselect/apt to get/update
 kde packages in the U.S.  The ftp sites I've looked at don't seem to be
 organized with Packages.gz files, so I can't get a whole list of
 packages with descriptions. I can ftp the packages and install them
 with dpkg, but I'd like to have the info in dselect.

 Thanks,
 --

 Eric G. Miller
 Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!

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Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread Halis Osman Erkan

Why do not you try to use Netscape Composer?

Halis Osman ERKAN
Ege University Dep. Of Comp Eng. 
Sophomore 

On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Chris Beaumont wrote:

 Hello,
 
   I'm just curious what people are using to write HTML with on Debian, 
 
 The available editors ive tried so far all seem *so* clunky and unsuited
 to the task...  cut and paste works irregularly if at all, no facilities
 for previewing.. etc.  Am I missing some obvious choice? Ive used
 Gxedit, nedit, thisedit, thatedit..
 
 Basically what I'm looking for is a workhorse editor that I can use as
 my main HTML tool.
 
 Is there anything Linux-friendly with anything approaching the feature
 set of the program that I am used to, BBEdit on the Power Macintosh...
 
 Any suggestions are welcome..  I'm also looking for HTML template and
 preprocessor solutions...
 
 Thank you!*
 
 Chris Beaumont
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: 3Com 509B Ethernet card working in Windows but not in Linux

1999-07-22 Thread Halis Osman Erkan

Firstly you must have the kernel compiled to support
3Com 509xx cards. Re-compile if it not ; 
you can choose 3c509/3c579 Support (in kernel 2.2.10  im not sure for
others).  

if u did
I belive in you forgot to compile or load modules.

I wish it helps you.
Good Luck
 
Halis Osman ERKAN

On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:

 Hi,
 
 According to the Hardware-HOWTO Linux should support the 3Com  509B 
 Ethernet card. When I try to install the driver I get an error and during 
 booting a line appear:
 
 eth0 unknown interface  /* something like that */
 
 In Windows 95 the card funktion and I can ping it from my Mac via the 
 local network. I's a Pentium 133 MHz system i'm installing on.
 
 Any tips?
 
 TIA
 
 Regards,
 Fredrik Jonsson
 
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3Com 509B Ethernet card working in Windows but not in Linux

1999-07-22 Thread Patrick Colbeck

I have used these cards with RedHat and Debian with both 2.0 and 2.2
kernels and they work fine. One thing to look out for is that they are 
ISA cards with some plug and play functions. The plug and play
functionality is useless. Get the 3c5x9cfg program from the dos
intsallation disks that come with the card. Boot your PC and go into
BIOS setup. Next go int the Plug and Play settings and reserve an
innterupt for non plug and play cards. Boot to DOS and then run the
3c5x9cfg program. There should be an option to manualy setup the card, 
turn of plug and play and then set it to the interupt that you
reserved in the bios setup. It should work fine then so long as you
have the correct module to load or compile the drivers into the
kernel.

Pat


shutdown -h now : don't power off

1999-07-22 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
Hi,

I have :
 Kernel2.2.10-1 + potato + ATX_box
All packages are the last.

When i do a :
shutdown -h now
or
halt
my system is rebooted, but not power off.

Wheras I set this option in the kernel.

do someone have the same probleme are the solution ?

Thanks.


Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread Sean
ugh!


Halis Osman Erkan wrote:

 Why do not you try to use Netscape Composer?

 Halis Osman ERKAN
 Ege University Dep. Of Comp Eng.
 Sophomore



Re: SupraExpress Modem problems

1999-07-22 Thread Ray
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 02:11:52AM -0600, David Karlin wrote:
 Is there an advantange to using isapnptools over disabling PNP?

1.  It's easier to change your settings later on.  For example, lets say you
used IRQ 7 for your modem because your printer doesn't need it's IRQ anyway
but later you decide to add a Zip drive.  With ISA-PnP you probably won't
even have to re-boot.

2.  ISA-PnP gives you feedback if you try to assign a resource that is
already in use.  With jumpers, chances are your only clue will be the fact
that the device doesn't work.

3.  Jumper settings are often poorly documented and easy to screw up.

-- 
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Re: Good HTML editor for debian Linux?

1999-07-22 Thread virtanen
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Sean wrote:

 ugh!
 
 
 Halis Osman Erkan wrote:
 
  Why do not you try to use Netscape Composer?

Or Amaya? I've used bot Netscape and Amaya. Both of them are good in my
opinion. 

-
hv


Re: HP Laserjet 1100

1999-07-22 Thread Petru NOTINGHER


Thanks a lot. In fact, I tried the same filters, and it works, as you say.
By the way, do you know how to use the scanner ?

Petru


Hi there,
I use Debian 2.1 I have had the HP 1100 for some time. I have no problem
using the printer at 300 dpi and 600 dpi. I use the magicfilter system
that comes with Debian. I use the ljet4-filter and the ljet4l-filter.
They
both work beautifully, especially when printing postscript files.
I can send a copy of them if you need to have them.
Regards
Henk
Henk van der Knaap,
92 Halswell Junction Road,
Christchurch, New Zealand.
Phone/fax 64 3 3229185
My Operating system is Linux Debian 2.1
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Re: SupraExpress Modem problems

1999-07-22 Thread Ray
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 10:07:45AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 David Karlin writes:
  Is there an advantange to using isapnptools over disabling PNP?
 
 Quite the contrary.  PNP is best avoided even in Windows.

The problem is that Windows insists on re-detecting everything every time
you re-boot (that is, all too often).  In Linux everything stays put until
you tell the system otherwise.

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Re: ncpfs and /etc/fstab

1999-07-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Alex V. Toropov wrote:

 I played around something with ncpfs.  I managed to get
 an entry in /etc/fstab so that root is able to mount a
 netware drive using mount.
 
 Can You explain what kind of entry You've use ?
SERVER/N_user /home/L_user/novell  ncp 
defaults,mode=644,uid=L_user,gid=L_group,volume=VOL1,multiple,passwdfile=PATH_TO_PASSWDFILE

Kind regards

   Andreas.


How to make work an Intel PRO/100+ PCI ethernet card

1999-07-22 Thread Tamas . GAIDOSCH
Hi people,

I am wrestling with the subject card, which is intagrated
in a Compaq Deskpro EN.  I use slink. I tried all the Intel 
net modules with modconf, but without success.  I get 
constantly the  XXX: init_module: device or resource busy message,
XXX being the pathname of the module.  Any ideas what to do next? 
(Besides buying a well-known adapter, of course :-)).  


Re: PPP setup

1999-07-22 Thread Ray
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 10:36:21AM +1000, Doug Young wrote:
 Would someone please try to enlighten me on how I go about setting a
 different subnet for ppp0  eth0 ?

For ppp it should go in the netmask statement should go in
/etc/ppp/options.ttyS?  You might want to make sure it's not being
overriden in /etc/ppp/peers/provider (or whatever you've called that file on
your system).

 
 I have a number of real IP addresses for personal use, and I'm
 apparently supposed to use subnet mask 255.255.255.248 with them on my
 LAN, but I guess I need to use 255.255.255.0 for the dialup connection
 to server.
 
It really shouldn't make any difference.  Since you are using a Point to
Point link, all of your outgoing traffic has to go to the gateway machine
(ie the machine you're dialing into).


 I have set 255.255.255.248 OK, 

Where? 

 
 nslookup seems to tell me that the connection is established OK, but I
 can only ping one of the two DNS numbers  the other one doesn't seem
 to do anything.

I seriously doubt these are related but the only way to say for sure is for
you to post your address block and the address of the DNS servers in
question.


 
 A couple of people have asked me to send them a copy of various log
 files or config files or whatever, but when I copy the file to a floppy
 it immediately becomes unreadable by a Windows box 

The entire disk is unreadable? or the files just look a bit odd?  IMHO the
easiest way is to format the disk in Windows and then use mcopy in Linux to
transfer the files.



 able to do that to date, and I haven't been able to figure how to attach
 files from a floppy in any linux application so I can send it off via
 email.  

I'm guessing it works differently in different applications so pick one and
then ask.

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Re: HELP!!!!

1999-07-22 Thread Ray
On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 10:00:45PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote:

 If you wish to start a new thread on the list, 
 PLEASE send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DO NOT just reply to any old message in your mailbox.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Re: [Fwd: Lynx Problems]

1999-07-22 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: [Fwd: Lynx Problems]
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 10:36:05AM +1000

In reply to:Doug Young

Quoting Doug Young([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Those who have been pondering my Lynx problems might care to comment on
 this message I received from a guy who answered a post elsewhere. If he
 is correct, it appears that I may have been trying to do something that
 even experts would find difficult.
 
 
Subject: 
 Re: lynx configuration
Date: 
 Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:02:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 
 Doug Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 hello,
 
 now i understand the source of your problem.   you are trying to use a
 copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux.   just a suggestion,
 linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself.  
 almost
 every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more
 then a casual experience with it.   when you see people talking about
 using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet
 provider where the copy of linx resides.   there computer is in fact
 operating that computer remotely; so a command made on their computer
 goes
 over the phone line through the modem and is recieved and performed by
 the
 remote computer.   what ever results from that command appears on the
 local computer.   if you really want to use linux and operate a copy of
 linx on it, you need help from someone who knows the linux operating
 system and how to set things up.   i have only a minimal knowledge of
 linux.   a second choice is to find a copy of linx which operates either
 under dos or windows, such do exist.   a third way to use linx is as i
 do
 and as i have just described above, to use my computer to operate a
 remote
 computer which has linx on it.   if you want to pursue using linx on
 linux, i can direct you to a group of blind linux users.   let me know,
 
 dan


He's right.  Thats why people who know, use Debian.

What do you think the maintainer does.  Stuff a program into a package
without checking it out and setting it up so that it will run?

Lynx runs right out of the box.  It works and works well.  Just
because you haven't been able to read and understand the manuals is no
reason to condem it.

You are doing/saying the same thing about LRP.  Because you can't
understand the manuals, you are off on a rant about why people can't
write manuals you can understand.

I have been tryong to help you with both LRP and Lynx since July 18,
off this list.  I directed you to the Howto's then and I just finished
a reply to you where you asked me What language are the Howto's
written in.  You have yet to read them but complain how bad the docs
are.  I've had it.  I tried to help.  I've had 11 personal mails from
you and you have not done one thing yet, on your own.  Every mail is a
complaint that the Linux Docs are bad and Windows is better.  

Well I have done all I can.  I have had a feeling for the last two
days, seeing all of your negative comments, that you were a troll.
Now it doesn't matter.  Don't ask me for any more help.  With you
attitude, I think that Windows 2000 is the place for you.  Buy a Cisco
router, if you can read their manuals, and forget about Linux. 

My apologies to the list.  I have just had it with this guy.


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Re: MAKEDEV

1999-07-22 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 11:36:59PM -0400, Chris Hoover wrote:
 I'm having problems with MAKEDEV.  It will not create the devices for my scsi
 tape.  In fact, it won't seem to create any devices.  I've tried running it
 with scsi, st, nst, etc, and it does not seem to do anything.  Is there a
 problem with the slink ver?  If not, how am I supposed to run it to create the
 devices I need?

Hi,


18:07:13 4:@dionizos~$ dpkg -S MAKEDEV
makedev: /usr/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8.gz
makedev: /dev/MAKEDEV
10:07:27 4:@dionizos~$ dpkg -l makedev|tail -1
ii  makedev 2.3.1-23   Creates special device files in /dev.
10:10:08 4:@dionizos~$

See man MAKEDEV:
[...]
   Tape Devices

   st[0-7]
  SCSI tapes.  This creates the rewinding tape device
  stx and the non-rewinding tape device nstx.

[...]

Because it isn't st class for all [n]st* devices you must use it with
number, for example st0:

10:07:42 0:2'@dionizos/dev$ ./MAKEDEV -v st0
create st0  c 9 0 root:tape 0660
create nst0 c 9 128 root:tape 0660
create st0l c 9 32 root:tape 0660
create nst0lc 9 160 root:tape 0660
create st0m c 9 64 root:tape 0660
create nst0mc 9 192 root:tape 0660
create st0a c 9 96 root:tape 0660
create nst0ac 9 224 root:tape 0660
10:07:59 0:2'@dionizos/dev$ ./MAKEDEV -v -d st0
delete st0
delete nst0
delete st0l
delete nst0l
delete st0m
delete nst0m
delete st0a
delete nst0a
10:08:16 0:2'@dionizos/dev$

Mirek


Re: A Pet Peeve about posting on the lists

1999-07-22 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 Quoting Stephen Pitts([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  SOAPBOX
  If you wish to start a new thread on the list, 
  PLEASE send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  DO NOT just reply to any old message in your mailbox.
  If you do that, then the threading gets messed up,
  and it doesn't display right in the archives, or
  in threaded mail clients like mutt.

[...]

 Might it be that these mail programs have poor docs?  Might it be that
 the people that use them don't realize how badly these posts mess up
 the display of good MUA's.  Might it be OK for me to recommend that
 they take a look at mutt.

Maybe it would be a good idea to put some `posting guidelines' in the
email that confirms subscription to the list.  Some of my own peeves for
that list would be:

*)  Use a descriptive subject, not `Linux problem', or `help needed', or
`Unidentified Subject!', and certainly not `HELP, URGENT!!!', but
more something like `Debian won't boot', or `Lost mail with elm'.

*)  Read the list before responding to it.  If you know the answer to a
question, first check if it has not been answered before.  The list is
busy enough as it is without twenty explanations of how to delete a file
named `-r -f *'.

*)  Quote as much as necessary, but not more.  Please put your comments
_below_ relevant quoted text, not above.

*)  Remember people are taking the trouble to reply to your questions in
their own time.  If your question isn't answered the first time, try a
different subject line, don't get angry.  There is no plot to ignore
you.

*)  Information for new users can be found at
... Newbie Guidelines ... /usr/share/doc ... etc ...

HTH,
Eric

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