RE: Perdonar pero no me aclaro
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 05:34:03PM +0200, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona wrote: Miquel writes: ... Por otra parte sería juicioso que los sites de descarga indicasen sistemáticamente que los programas descargables van destinados a un público de desarrolladores o de profesionales y no pueden ser usados por un consumidor sin experiencia. Por extensión, los editores de distribuciones Linux deberían o bien indicar muy claramente que los productos que difunden no van destinados a los consumidores, o bien aceptar la responsabilidad de cualquier defecto lo que nos parecería completamente normal en la medida en que los principales editores de distribuciones Linux hacen de hecho el papel de certificadores de soluciones. Hola... Este ultimo punto, me parece excesivo por comparacion. Me explico, M$ solo acepta responsabilidad sobre el funcionamiento del software durante los primeros 90 dias, limitandose esta al reembolso del coste o sustitucion del producto, a eleccion de M$, (tomado del Limited Warranties de WNT4.0), tampoco se hace responsable de que el software sea adecuado para algun fin concreto (algo que me parece logico por otra parte), ni de daños causados por su uso o imposiblidad de usar. Todos sabemos, que hay cosas de las distribuciones Linux, que no son faciles de preparar y configurar (no es imposible, si es dificil), opino que para aceptar la resposabilidad por cualquier defecto, una determinada distribucion no deberia ser configurable (a piñoñ fijo), y en caso de que no se pudiera hacer nada de nada, habria lugar para alguna clausula parecida a la de M$. Saludos.
Disco Ide ultra dma y Disco ultra scsi
Se pueden tener un disco duro ide ultradma con windows y un disco ultrascsi-3 en el mismo ordenador? Gracias
RE: Disco Ide ultra dma y Disco ultra scsi
Sip. Sin ningun problema... Ambos se usan independientemente. Saxa - Original Message - From: yo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 10:09 AM Subject: Disco Ide ultra dma y Disco ultra scsi Se pueden tener un disco duro ide ultradma con windows y un disco ultrascsi-3 en el mismo ordenador? Gracias -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Creacion de paquete
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 01:18:52AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bueno, aqu? van mis preguntas. Voy a empaquetar ucblogo para mi propio uso. Se trata de un interprete de logo con licencia GPL. Para mas se?as este interprete existe en versiones para Windows, Mac y Unix. La licencia permite estar en main y hacer modificaciones siempre que se distribuyan las fuentes (cosa que tú si harías). Me parece que las fuentes son las mismas, cambiando las opciones de compilaci?n. De hacer un paquete para uso propio a pretender que se incluya en la distribuci?n de debian solo hay un paso y unas cuantas dudas que son: - ?Que pasa cuando alguien envie un bug? Pues antes de mandar el paquete debes ser mantainer, lo que significa que se mandará el bug report a tu dirección (de hecho la que pongas en el fichero debian/control) y quedará una copia en el BTS. ?Lo corrijo yo en mi flamante paquete ucblogo.deb? Nada ?Y que pasa con el paquete original que alguien mantiente en California? Pues los bugs que son del programa y no del paquete deberían notificarse a su maintainer original (también se le debería preguntar antes de enviar el paquete a Debian por cortesía) para que los pueda arreglar él (con la solución si se la das). Si decido cambiarlo para, por ejemplo, poner las ayudas en espa?ol, o modificar la linea de edici?n de comandos ?Dejar?a de ser ucblogo? ?Tendr?a que cambiar el nombre? ? O habr?a un ucblogo original y otro parcheado? No, la licencia GPL no lo impide. Lo que pasa es que convendría que los cambios intentaras que se integraran en el paquete original, no convertirte en desarrollador sino en ayudante de si me explico. El desarrollador original estará encantado de que le ayudes a internacionalizar el paquete y que le des las sugerencias que creas oportunas. Los desarroladores no están para cambiar los programas, sino para incluirlos en la distribución e integrar los cambios que vayan produciéndose por la fuente original. - Yo tengo montado slink, y ser? un paquete para slink lo que use para mi. ?Tengo que crear un paquete para potato??Tengo que cambiar mi versi?n a potato para crear un paquete para potato?Y si cambio mi versi?n a potato ?c?mo creo un paquete para slink? Depende en realidad de si las librerías que utilizas para ocmpilar son unas u otras. Pero no se aceptan paquetes para versiones cerradas, sólo para nuevas. - ?Y como afecta esto a las versiones para Windows y Mac? No les afecta (excepto los cambios que mandes al desarrollador original y que mejoren el programa cualesquiera que sea su versión). Quiz?s ?ste no sea el foro m?s adecuado para esta discusi?n. Si alguien tiene inconveniente que lo comente y la continuo en privado o en otra lista. No te preocupes, sí es el foro. No hay ningún problema. Javi
Capturadora de tv
Todas las capturadoras de tv que incorporan el chip 848 son compatibles linux?
Re: Perdonar pero no me aclaro
Juan Leseduarte writes: [...] En el capítulo 5 hay un apartado que dice (traduzco a vuela pluma): --- ¿Es la GPL legal en Europa? No, la GPL no es completamente legal porque excluye toda responsabilidad del autor sin precisar por otra parte que el software difundido se dirige a un público advertido. Por tanto contraviene las directivas europeas sobre el consumo o sobre las cláusulas abusivas. Para hacer legal la GPL, probablemente se tendría que cambiar la cláusula de no responsabilidad del autor por una cláusula que indique un montante máximo razonable de responsabilidad como, típicamente, el precio del CD si el programa es distribuido en el comercio... (Hay una nota al pie que dice que un juez podría revisar la cláusula de responsabilidad). Creo que hay una nota en la GPL prevista para ese caso. Dice, en traducci'on libre: salvo que lo requiera la legislación aplicable o haya sido acordado por escrito (1) (2) Esto permite dos cosas: 1. Que si la legislación aplciable en un sitio dado no permite esta cláusula, no se aplique (sólo esta cláusula, y sí el resto de la licencia). 2. Que pueda haber acuerdos de garantía asociados a la licencia (esto es, se puede redistribuir código GPL con garantía). Así pues, alguien que quiera redistribuir código GPL en Europa, y que esté preocupado por este tema, puede simplemente incluir una nota adjunta con un techo económico de responsabilidad, por ejemplo. También permite el negocio de gente que quiera ofrecer software GPL en condiciones de soporte garantizado (modalidad relativamente habitual en algunos sectores, y que es de esperar que se vaya extendiendo, especialmente usando software libre). El caso de las emrpesas que certifican software Y2K es exactamente ese. Por otro lado, la mayor parte de las licencias propietarias tienen cláusulas iguales o muy parecidas (3). Y no conozco casos de invalidación de licencia por ello... De hecho, ¿alguien ha protestado algna vez (o ha puesto una querella con éxito) porque se le ha caído el Ventanitas95? Aunque claro, el que estos casos aún no hayan ocurrido no presupone que no puedan properar en el futuro... En cualquier caso, se está trabajando en la versión 3 de la GPL. Así que si hay errores en la GPL tal y como está ahora, que hagan que su aplciación en Europa sea dudosa, agradecería cualquier ayuda yø comentario al respecto, para pasárselo a rms y a la gente que está revisando la licencia... Jesus. (1) Traduccion libre al castellano de la sección 12 de la GPL: En ningún caso, salvo que lo requiera la legislación aplicable o haya sido acordado por escrito, ningún tenedor del copyright ni ninguna otra parte que modifique y/o redistribuya el Programa según se permite en esta Licencia será responsable ante usted por daños, incluyendo cualquier daño general, especial, incidental o resultante producido por el uso o la imposibilidad de uso del Programa (con inclusión, pero sin limitación a la pérdida de datos o a la generación incorrecta de datos o a pérdidas sufridas por usted o por terceras partes o a un fallo del Programa al funcionar en combinación con cualquier otro programa), incluso si dicho tenedor u otra parte ha sido advertido de la posibilidad de dichos daños. (2) Original en inglés de la sección 12 de la GPL: IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW OR AGREED TO IN WRITING WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MAY MODIFY AND/OR REDISTRIBUTE THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES, INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES (3) Extracto de la licencia de Corel~7.0, comprada en España (y a una empresa europea, como se ve al final del extracto). Puede verse una conción muy similar a la de la GPL: Algunos estados/países no permiten la exclusión o limitación de responsabilidad por daños consecuentes o incidentales, de modo que la limitación anterior puede no aplicarse a usted. (NOTA: este extracto no es una traducción. Un usuario de Corel me la pasó tal cual la tenía en su paquete...) F. LIMITACIÓN DE GARANTÍAS Y RESPONSABILIDAD: A excepción de la garantía expresada arriba, el Producto se provee tal cual, sin otras garantías, o condiciones, expresas o implícitas, incluidas pero no limitadas a: garantías de calidad comercial, comerciabilidad o aptitud para un propósito particular, ni las provistas por ley, estatuto, norma de comercio o curso de acuerdo. Todo el riesgo con respecto a resultados y prestaciones del Producto los
Glib2.1 de potato en slink
¿Alguien que tenga la slink se ha instalado la glib2.1 de potato? ¿Puede dar algún problema? ¿Es necesario actualizar algún otro paquete? Los programas compilados para glib2.0 seguirán funcionando ¿verdad? Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft http://rvmsoft.findhere.com
RE: Pero que pasa? .... y script de shutdown en debian 2.0
[...] Ya que estoy, voy a comentar una curiosidad, a ver si a alguien más le ha pasado esto con la Debian 2.0r1b y si sabe si lo han arreglado en la Debian 2.1: A veces cuando arrancaba la Debian 2.0 (temporalmente tengo redhat 6.0 debido a que prefiero reproducir el site de explotación), el fsck me decía que no se había cerrado bien la última vez y se ponía a chequear el HD diciendo al final que un nodo (creo que siempre el mismo) tenía zero d_time y arreglándolo (al menos no encontré jamás ningún problema en mis archivos). ¿Usabas el kernel 2.0.34? Según me comentaron era un fallo de ese kernel. Estoy completamente seguro que sí había cerrado bien la Debian (con shutdown -h now o con CTRL-ALT-SUPR, esperando hasta que el sistema avisa que se puede apagar), por lo que el fallo no es de que apagase el Linux a lo bestia. Estuve investigando, y parece que al final del script de shutdown de la Debian 2.0 (uno de esos rc.n, que ahora no recuerdo) no habían puesto un sync, de manera que no se aseguraban de que la cache del HD se hubiera vaciado. Le puse el sync (de hecho le puse dos, porque en una Slack que tuve una vez, ponían dos por si las moscas) y creo que no me volvió a fallar (o no lo hizo en el tiempo que seguí usándola). ¿a alguien le pasó lo mismo con la Deb 2.0? Sí, pero era cosa del kernel. No tenía nada que ver con la debian. Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft http://rvmsoft.findhere.com
MAS: Actualizando hamm a slink
En la linea de mi anterior mensaje, Cuando usé apt-get para actulizar hamm a slink, el kernel no se actualizó. Lo que tambien he visto es que tampoco se ha actualizado mutt. Lo he actualizado a mano con dpkg -i. Tenia la version 0.93 de hamm y he montado la 0.95 de slink ¿Tambien son paquetes distintos? Entonces, si cada paquete mas moderno es distinto del anterior ¿que es actulizar? ¿montar un paquete detras de otro tras comprobar que existe uno que se parece en nombre y es más moderno en fecha y version? Yo pense que actualizar es montar una version mas moderna de lo mismo. ¿no? Saludos y gracias a todos. -- -- Andres Seco Hernandez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andressh urgente: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Microsoft Certified Product Specialist MCP ID 445900 Debian GNU Linux 2.0 (hamm) - Linux Registered User no. 113867 -- 07/30 In God We Trust made U.S. motto, 1956 07/31 Harry S. Truman dedicates N.Y. Int'l Airport @ Idlewild Field, 1948, later JFK 08/01 Lughnasa; Feast of the god Lugh, a 30 day Celtic feast centers on this day pgpY2M2622862.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: TrueType Super-mini-howto
-Mensaje original- De: Javier López [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Debian Spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: lunes 26 de julio de 1999 9:55 Asunto: Re: TrueType Super-mini-howto [...] ¡Hola! Tras aplicar las instrucciones que adjuntabas me encuentro con el siguiente problema: Cuando cargo el daemon no parece haber ningún problema: Reloading X True Type Font Server configuration...Stopping X TrueType Font Server: xfstt. xfstt: sync in directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/. Found 86 fonts. Starting X TrueType Font Server: xfstt. Sin embargo, cuando intento cargar las fuentes me encuentro con el siguiente mensaje: xset: bad font path element (#3), possible causes are: Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions Directory missing fonts.dir Incorrect font server address or syntax ¿Alguien me puede echar una mano? Prueba primero con unas pocas fuentes a ver si te va. Yo tengo estas: arbl.ttf ariali.ttftimes.ttf ttinfo.dirverdanai.ttf arial.ttf comic.ttf timesbd.ttf ttname.dirverdanaz.ttf arialbd.ttf comicbd.ttf timesbi.ttf verdana.ttf arialbi.ttf tahoma.ttftimesi.ttfverdanab.ttf Prueba con alguna de ellas y si funciona ve añadiendo unas cuantas más. Puede que alguna de las fuentes esté en algún formato que no entienda el xfstt. Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft http://rvmsoft.findhere.com
Re: CD-RW
Flavio Bruno Leitner wrote: Ola' a todos Coloquei no kernel as opcoes p/ emular o scsi p/ fazer meu cdrw que eh um CD-Writer+ 8100 da HP mas coisas acontecem... - Quando tento montar ele skyblue:/# mount /dev/hdc /cdrom ide-scsi: hdc: unsupported command in request queue (0) end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 /dev/hdc: Input/output error ide-scsi: hdc: unsupported command in request queue (0) end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 FAT bread failed mount: you must specify the filesystem type skyblue:/# Ou seja, nao posso criar imagens ou acessar meus cd's skyblue:~# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord release 1.8a22 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling scsibus0: 0) 'HP ' 'CD-Writer+ 8100 ' '1.0g' Removable CD-ROM Porem o programa detecta, quando removo do lilo a seguinte linha skyblue:~# cdrecord -scanbus append = hdc=ide-scsi Posso utilizar o cdrom como cdrom normal, mas o programa nao detecta mais.. Alguem tem alguma ideia do que esta havendo ou um tutorial, howto, ou coisa parecida??? hehe, essa até eu sei responder :) Brincadeirinha.. eu também não tinha entendido isso muito bem na primeira vez que eu compilei o kernel com emulação scsi. O que acontece agora é que o seu kernel vai tentar responder como se o seu CD fosse um dispositivo scsi, ou seja, agora você vai passar a tratá-lo como /dev/scd0 etc. Então, na hora de montar você digita mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom Como eu acho que você pode ter dificuldades na hora de usar o cdrecord, para gravar cd voce vai usar alguma coisa com esta cara: cdrecord dev=0,0 blábláblá.. Uma coisa... Você removeu o suporte a CD ide no kernel??? Você não pode abilitar os dois ao mesmo tempo se pretende gravar CD com um gravador IDE, ou seja, onde você viu para colocar esse append no lilo??? Acho que não precisa nada disso não... Na inicialização aparece assim aqui: scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices scsi : 1 host. Vendor: SONY Model: CD-R CDU928ERev: 1.1n Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: MATSHITA Model: CD-ROM CR-585 Rev: ZM50 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 scsi : detected 2 SCSI cdroms total. sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 8x/8x writer xa/form2 cdda caddy Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.55 sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Qualquer coisa é só perguntar. []'s
debian vs redhat
Hi all, I use Debian at home. At work we are gradually switching from Windows to Linux, and a redhat system (6 machines) has been running for about 3 months. In a couple of weeks I will be taking over as sysadmin of that system, and due to the way the installation have been over-customized, I am going to reinstall them. I am going to try and convince my boss that as long as we are reinstalling, we should switch to Debian. I have my list of reasons for preferring Debian, but maybe there are some things I haven't thought of which you can mention. I am particularly interested in hearing from those who have administered both dists. Thanks, Steve
Gnomeicu problems
Hi, All just installed gnomeicu and while trying to run it i got reboot ~ $ gnomeicu type = 0 exid = (null) ** CRITICAL **: file applet-widget.c: line 655 (gnome_panel_applet_corba_init): assertion `panel_client != ((void *)0)' failed. ** CRITICAL **: file applet-widget.c: line 699 (applet_widget_new): assertion `c orbadat!=NULL' failed. ** ERROR **: Can't create applet! aborting... Aborted Any ideas/advices? It's intel system with Debian potato thanks a lot in advance OK
Re: debian vs redhat
On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Steve Stancliff wrote: as sysadmin of that system, and due to the way the installation have been over-customized, I am going to reinstall them. am going to try and convince my boss that as long as we are reinstalling, we should switch to Debian. I have my list of reasons for preferring Debian, but maybe there are some I have been/going through a similar thing. It would give you a much better understanding of the system if you have to rebuild it yourself and chances are allow you to be able to fix any system specific problems faster than if you had to learn exactly what was going on on a system someone else installed. things I haven't thought of which you can mention. I am particularly interested in hearing from those who have administered both dists. The main thing is ease of system upgrades and changes through dselect and apt-get. I allways found The Redhat package manager to be one big pain in the neck and usually chose to compile from the sources myself but in general I dont do that on my Debian systems which saves time (real and computer). Also RedHat has a habit of hiding what its doing when configuring things which make customization excessivley time consuming whereas I have found Debian to be much easier to customize/configure. just my 2 cents worth ---Gareth
Re: setting variables under an X11 session
Micha Feigin on Thu 29 Jul: How can i set an environment variable under an x11 session If you set environment variables in your .xsession file they should be inherited by the session and thence by any program it executes. If you want environment variables to persist only for a specific program, use a short script to set up the environment and then exec the real program. This can be made fairly transparent by putting the script somewhere in your path before the real program, and giving it the same filename. Disclaimer: I am a Linux newbie, so this may be wrong and is bound to be incomplete. The Path mini-HOWTO (in /usr/doc/HOWTO if you have installed doc-linux-text or doc-linux-html) gives, IMO, a helpful explanation of environment variables in general, although it is focused on $PATH. Hope this helps. -- Brett I already arch to run whenever corrupted?
dselect woes
Hi all, Having just downloaded a user profile, dselect seems to hang just when it should be ready to install. Going through the options the install shows a quick message I think is: cksum 5md. It flashes so fast and goes right back to the choice menu's so I'm not sure. TM for dselect begginers doesn't list this error message, so after trying all the dselect options 3 times, I come to you for direction. Thanks to all. PS I think the installation is really getting smoother. Dean PPS: Don't know if this is anything but ppp.log had this message: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP
Re: debian vs redhat
1) Ease of upgrade was a big decider for me (I switched over 2-1/2 years ago--I can't speak for recent Red Hat releases). With Debian you can upgrade a running system. Red Hat required booting with the equivalent of a rescue disk in order to upgrade. 2) In spite of all the complaints it gets, I find dselect to be quite useful, particularly with the apt method. 3) Much better handling of dependencies, even before the existence of apt. 4) More conservative in introducing recent (and possibly buggy) software, such as libc6. I'm very wary of any Red Hat version *.0 release. In spite of this, Debian has many more packages. hth, Bob On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 07:21:30PM -0400, Steve Stancliff wrote: Hi all, I use Debian at home. At work we are gradually switching from Windows to Linux, and a redhat system (6 machines) has been running for about 3 months. In a couple of weeks I will be taking over as sysadmin of that system, and due to the way the installation have been over-customized, I am going to reinstall them. I am going to try and convince my boss that as long as we are reinstalling, we should switch to Debian. I have my list of reasons for preferring Debian, but maybe there are some things I haven't thought of which you can mention. I am particularly interested in hearing from those who have administered both dists. Thanks, Steve -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Removing alsalib
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Min Xu wrote: Hi, You maybe able to remove it by reinstalling it first and then try. :-) I tried that, but when it tries to remove the old version to replace it with the new version it runs into the same error and gives up. -Levi
Re: Logitech mouse M-S48
On 29 Jul, virtanen wrote: | Which kind of device driver module should I install to get that beast | working? Or what should I do? | | It makes no effect at all with any of the possible protocols available | with XF86Setup. Perhaps you're not using the correct device (not driver). Try /dev/psaux if it's a PS/2 style mouse. Sometimes the symlink /dev/mouse isn't pointing to what you need (you can change that of course!). -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
Re: Problems encrypting with GnuPG and decrypting with PGP
On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 09:02:28PM +0200, J Horacio MG wrote: Why does the following not work? If I don't get any reply from debian-user, I will post to debian-devel, as I am reasonably certain I got these packages from potato. I reported a bug a while ago about gpg-rsa2 and gpg-idea2, and the answer was: You need libc6 2.1.x - or you can grab the sources and recompile using libc6 2.0. Thats what I did. However, the same problem also occurs on non-Debian archictures that don't have glibc. signing works fine - it is just encryption that I have problems with. So, instead I removed those two packages and installed gpg-rsa1 and gpg-idea1 instead. So it would seem that version 2 of the above packages are broken unless libc6 2.1.x is used (I am assuming it works - I haven't tested it). Where can I get version 1 from? -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpldTefgSZN1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Inport Mouse
I have been trying for weeks now to get my Microsoft Inport Mouse to work without success. I have been back through the last four months archives hoping to find an answer and have read all the documentation on Mice I can find. Is there someone using a Microsoft Inport Mouse who can tell me their setup either. I have changed the jumper setting on the card to 5 and checked /usr/src/linux/include/linux/busmouse.h to make sure the define MOUSE_IRQ also was 5 and compiled and installed the kernel. I have tried the following, all described in the HOWTO gpm -t bm. mknod /dev/inportbm 10 2 insmod msbusmouse.o mouse_irq=5 I just can't seem to get this inport mouse working. I know the hardware is ok as I re-installed Windows to check and the Linux again (just to test mouse). My alternate to getting the inport mouse going is to purchase another mouse and serial card. I would prefer not to have to do this if possible. Thank you in anticipation. Terry Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amprnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems encrypting with GnuPG and decrypting with PGP
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Brian May wrote: You need libc6 2.1.x - or you can grab the sources and recompile using libc6 2.0. Thats what I did. However, the same problem also occurs on non-Debian archictures that don't have glibc. signing works fine - it is just encryption that I have problems with. I have encryption working fine with gpg and pgp 2.x - the options you need to use are: --set-filename --rfc1991 --load-extension idea --cipher-algo idea --armor --encrypt And you MUST NOT pipe the input to gpg - it must be given a filename on the command line. Jason
Re: Gnomeicu problems
On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 06:37:10PM -0500, Oleg Krivosheev wrote: just installed gnomeicu and while trying to run it i got reboot ~ $ gnomeicu type = 0 exid = (null) ** CRITICAL **: file applet-widget.c: line 655 (gnome_panel_applet_corba_init): assertion `panel_client != ((void *)0)' failed. ** CRITICAL **: file applet-widget.c: line 699 (applet_widget_new): assertion `c orbadat!=NULL' failed. ** ERROR **: Can't create applet! aborting... Aborted Are you running the Gnome panel? If you aren't, that's probably the problem. GnomeICU is trying to create the applet in the panel, failing, and dying. Try starting it with the '-a' argument to stop the applet creation, e.g. gnomeicu -a That will work whether the panel is running or not. -- Matthew Gregan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD5Sum mismatch in potato
Hi, When running apt-get upgrade, I get this error: E: MD5Sum mismatch for package menu Running Debian potato. regards, = = Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated = = == Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 = == = = = = E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] = WebPage : http://andre.lasaltech.com
Re: MD5Sum mismatch in potato
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, A. M. Varon wrote: Hi, When running apt-get upgrade, I get this error: E: MD5Sum mismatch for package menu Running Debian potato. Assuming you have 0.3.11, just run it again and/or switch mirrors. It should automatically erase the downloaded file when it shows that error - it usually means a botched resume, incomplete mirror, or something like that. Jason
using AUI port of 3c529 (MCA) network card
I've been unsuccessful in getting my 3Com 3c529 MCA Ethernet card to communicate with the network using the AUI port, although the 10baseT (twisted pair) connection with the card works fine. The 3c529 is the MCA (IBM's proprietary microchannel architecture for the PS/2 and other machines) version of the 3c509 (same chipset), so I use the 3c509.o module that came with my Debian installation (Linux 2.0.36). The 3c509.c file in the 2.0.36 source tree actually has MCA detection code for the 3c529, although I'm not sure that it's complete. To debug the problem, I've tried compiling the module myself from the 2.0.36 source tree, sometimes with certain modifications and also without any changes. However, I have the problem that the newly compiled 3c509.o will not work at all with my network card, even though the one that came with Debian (supposedly 2.0.36) does work. Is it possible that the 3c509.c source that was used in this version of Debian is different than the one in the 2.0.36 source tree I've been using to compile my own? Does anyone know what version of 3c509.c is in this Debian distribution? When I insmod the correct 3c509.o module without any arguments (insmod 3c509), I get the following (note that the card identification on the first line comes directly from the MCA card and thus has nothing to with the module's detection mechanism): # insmod 3c509 3c509: found 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (10baseT) at slot 3 eth0: 3c509 at 0x200 tag 0, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 99 a8 1e, IRQ 5. 3c509.c:1.16 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] After this, I manually run /etc/init.d/network, and the card then works fine off the 10baseT port. [Note: The version of 3c509.c in the 2.0.36 source tree is also identified as v1.16 2/3/98, so it seems like it should be the same.] However, when I run the version that I compiled myself from the 2.0.36 source tree, I get the following: # insmod 3c509 /lib/modules/2.0.36/net/3c509.o: init_module: Device or resource busy If I subsequently replace the 3c509.o file with the correct module (the one that came with the Debian distribution), it then works as shown above. However, I want to enable the AUI port on the network card, so I use the xcvr option to set the transceiver port to 1 (AUI), but I get the same response from the module (which still claims that I am using the 10baseT port, as seen in the second line of output, where it should instead say AUI port): # insmod 3c509 xcvr=1 3c509: found 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (10baseT) at slot 3 eth0: 3c509 at 0x200 tag 0, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 99 a8 1e, IRQ 5. 3c509.c:1.16 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I then run the /etc/init.d/network script as before, but I get no ping response from any hosts (including IPs on my local subnet). If I then unplug the AUI connector and plug in the 10baseT cable, thinking that the program decided to use the 10baseT port as it claimed (ignoring my xcvr=1 option), it still fails to work, and I am unable to use the network card until I reboot (because rmmod does not properly allow me to insmod again without the xcvr=1 option). Please cc: any responses to me, as the debian-user web archive only seems to store mail from the first few days of each month. Thanks for any advice or information on this setup and my difficulties. Matt
RE: debian vs redhat
My reason for moving from RedHat (5.2) to Debian was configurability. I have a cable modem, and connect to the internet via a DHCP client. Redhat uses dhcpcd for this, as does most of the rest of the linux world. Hoverver, after going to 2.2.x kernels, dhcpcd 0.70 croaks. I couldn't get dhcpcd to work, but an alternative was dhclient. Unfortunately, Redhat's network scrips were made to work with dhcpcd, and had no support for dhclient. I had to modify many of the scripts by hand to find an adeqiate solution. In the process, I found the RedHat init scripts to be a convoluted mess. Why were they written this way? Linuxconf. If you do things the Linuxconf way you loose a great deal of flexability, not to mention half the documentation out there assumes you edit config files and init scripts by hand. If you do anything by hand, you risk breaking Linuxconf support for that script, and all scripts related to it. This left my system with dozens of convoluted scripts not supported by Linuxconf. I never did get the dhcpcd client (the new one, with 2.2.x support) under either RedHat or Debian. But dhclient is a much cleaner program. I hear the next version of Debian will include Linuxcong support as part of the standard system. I hope this doesn't ruin Debian the way it, in my opinion, ruined RedHat. Bryan On 29-Jul-99 Steve Stancliff wrote: Hi all, I use Debian at home. At work we are gradually switching from Windows to Linux, and a redhat system (6 machines) has been running for about 3 months. In a couple of weeks I will be taking over as sysadmin of that system, and due to the way the installation have been over-customized, I am going to reinstall them. I am going to try and convince my boss that as long as we are reinstalling, we should switch to Debian. I have my list of reasons for preferring Debian, but maybe there are some things I haven't thought of which you can mention. I am particularly interested in hearing from those who have administered both dists. Thanks, Steve -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Problems encrypting with GnuPG and decrypting with PGP
On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 08:29:30PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: You need libc6 2.1.x - or you can grab the sources and recompile using libc6 2.0. Thats what I did. However, the same problem also occurs on non-Debian archictures that don't have glibc. signing works fine - it is just encryption that I have problems with. I have encryption working fine with gpg and pgp 2.x - the options you need to use are: --set-filename --rfc1991 --load-extension idea --cipher-algo idea --armor --encrypt I think I already have these options (not sure about --set-filename). However, I have just realized that my problem only occurs when signing and encrypting in the one operation. ie --encrypt works, but -se (suggested method to sign and encrypt on --help page) doesn't. Can you sign and encrypt and read the result with pgp? And you MUST NOT pipe the input to gpg - it must be given a filename on the command line. This seems a bit weird, but I will take your word for it. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp9Al7acRhRR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Anyone Use the New Riders Book/CD?
Just curious if anyone has succesfully installed Debian using the CD that comes with the recent New Riders Debian/GNU Linux book? Booting from the CD, my install fails at the Install Operating System Kernel and Modules point. The install program seems to want to load a laptop kernel, which apparently is not on the CD. Also noticed that the standard Debian install package comes on 2 CD's, while the New Riders book has only a single CD. Is anything missing? wg
Potato
Account for Debian group mail writes: Anyone using the Potato release on a machine that needs to be up. How stable is it at this point? Thanks, Ken Rea There are a few *big* changes happening in potato right now. Changes to key parts of just about every Linux system. I'd hold off at least until the switch to versioned Perl packages is complete, but if you really need the machine available, I'd wait until the freeze comes. Take a look at recent messages on -devel regarding Perl problems and the possibility of a freeze on the horizon. Jesse
Streaming Media
Hi, I'm just enquiring about whether there is any streaming video and audio software for Debian, or Linux in general. Email me back at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you.
Re: Logitech mouse M-S48
It started working. Thank you. (I just had to install the whole system again because it crashed for some reason, which I still don't understand. Suddently the power goes off sometimes while booting. It breaks the whole system, if it decides to do that...) I installed psaux driver and while installing 'standard workstation' run the gpm mouse probe program. Everything went smoothly. (But still I do have another problem with Xserver. But that is for another post...) -hv On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Carl Mummert wrote: If it has a little round DIN connector, try '/dev/psaux' as the device. You will need to 'modprobe psaux' before you do try the mouse. I recommend installing gpm, which has a nifty mouse-test program that can usually figure out automatically the type/port/etc of your mouse - but you may have to run the program a few times, as it proresses too quickly for most people to follow the first time. Once you know what to expect, you can follow it. Install the psaux driver (modprobe it) before you try to he mouse-test prgram (which i think is calld gpm-mouse-test). Carl
Re: 'Inverse' chmod?
Hello, Bob Bernstein wrote: Is there a command that will do (so to speak) the inverse of chmod, i.e. if given the name of a file return its current permissions in octal? kpsestat = FILE You can also get `hypothetical' permissions by replacing the `=' with a mode modification a la chmod, for example, kpsestat o+r FILE gives you the permissions the file would have if its owner ran chmod o+r, but doesn't actually change them. However, it's in the tetex-bin package. Can't imagine why. Jiri -- Jiri Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll know the future has arrived when every mailer transparently quotes lines that begin with From , but no-one remembers why.
Matrox Productiva G100 and Xserver?
Somebody might know how to configure xserver for this: Matrox Productiva G100 Accelerator MGA G100 Memory 8M Board mapping 0800 Ramdac speed 230 MHz VGA Bios 1.1 The monitor it a Hyundai 17 (in that mO$ it is 1024x768) I managed to get Xserver working in a way, but most of the information on the screen is outside of the screen. Cannot even 'vidtune' it , because the starting point is outside the screen... In fvwm2 I cannot do anything because the whole screen is filled with a big panel buttons. Is there available right kind of Xserver for 'slink'? Or can I use something else? I tried to select all of the Matrox cards while running XF86Setup without any success. It is just selecting SVGA server and the result is as explained above. -hv
Re: PPP woes (again)
John Hasler wrote: Paul writes: The pon command works much better but seems to disconnect if left alone too long, though it`s fine as long as information is being transferred constantly. Either your ISP is dropping your connection when it is idle too long, or you have somehow given ppp an 'idle xxx' option. The first is the most likely. Post your /etc/ppp/options file. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI Here it is. I still find it curious however that I if this is an ISP problem and I need to ping every so often that a week or so ago I had Wvdial working fine without doing so.# /etc/ppp/options # # $Id: options,v 1.4 1996/05/01 18:57:04 alvar Exp $ # # Originally created by Jim Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Modified for Debian by alvar Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Modified for PPP Server setup by Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Use the command egrep -v '#|^ *$' /etc/ppp/options to quickly see what # options are active in this file. # Specify which DNS Servers the incoming Win95 or WinNT Connection should use # Two Servers can be remotely configured # ms-dns 192.168.1.1 # ms-dns 192.168.1.2 # Specify which WINS Servers the incoming connection Win95 or WinNT should use # ms-wins 192.168.1.50 # ms-wins 192.168.1.51 # Run the executable or shell command specified after pppd has # terminated the link. This script could, for example, issue commands # to the modem to cause it to hang up if hardware modem control signals # were not available. #disconnect chat -- \d+++\d\c OK ath0 OK # async character map -- 32-bit hex; each bit is a character # that needs to be escaped for pppd to receive it. 0x0001 # represents '\x01', and 0x8000 represents '\x1f'. asyncmap 0 # Require the peer to authenticate itself before allowing network # packets to be sent or received. # Please do not disable this setting. It is expected to be standard in # future releases of pppd. Use the call option (see manpage) to disable # authentication for specific peers. auth # Use hardware flow control (i.e. RTS/CTS) to control the flow of data # on the serial port. crtscts # Use software flow control (i.e. XON/XOFF) to control the flow of data # on the serial port. #xonxoff # Specifies that certain characters should be escaped on transmission # (regardless of whether the peer requests them to be escaped with its # async control character map). The characters to be escaped are # specified as a list of hex numbers separated by commas. Note that # almost any character can be specified for the escape option, unlike # the asyncmap option which only allows control characters to be # specified. The characters which may not be escaped are those with hex # values 0x20 - 0x3f or 0x5e. #escape 11,13,ff # Don't use the modem control lines. #local # Specifies that pppd should use a UUCP-style lock on the serial device # to ensure exclusive access to the device. lock # Use the modem control lines. On Ultrix, this option implies hardware # flow control, as for the crtscts option. (This option is not fully # implemented.) modem # Set the MRU [Maximum Receive Unit] value to n for negotiation. pppd # will ask the peer to send packets of no more than n bytes. The # minimum MRU value is 128. The default MRU value is 1500. A value of # 296 is recommended for slow links (40 bytes for TCP/IP header + 256 # bytes of data). mru 552 # Set the interface netmask to n, a 32 bit netmask in decimal dot # notation (e.g. 255.255.255.0). #netmask 255.255.255.0 # Disables the default behaviour when no local IP address is specified, # which is to determine (if possible) the local IP address from the # hostname. With this option, the peer will have to supply the local IP # address during IPCP negotiation (unless it specified explicitly on the # command line or in an options file). noipdefault # Enables the passive option in the LCP. With this option, pppd will # attempt to initiate a connection; if no reply is received from the # peer, pppd will then just wait passively for a valid LCP packet from # the peer (instead of exiting, as it does without this option). passive # With this option, pppd will not transmit LCP packets to initiate a # connection until a valid LCP packet is received from the peer (as for # the passive option with old versions of pppd). #silent # Don't request or allow negotiation of any options for LCP and IPCP # (use default values). #-all # Disable Address/Control compression negotiation (use default, i.e. # address/control field disabled). #-ac # Disable asyncmap negotiation (use the default asyncmap, i.e. escape # all control characters). #-am # Don't fork to become a background process (otherwise pppd will do so # if a serial device is specified). #-detach # Disable IP address negotiation (with this option, the remote IP # address must be specified with an option on the command line or in an # options file). #-ip # Disable magic number negotiation.
Re: Matrox Productiva G100 and Xserver?
Hello. In v3.3.3.1 of XFree86 there is support for the Productiva G100 AGP and it works well. You should use the SVGA-server for this card. Just select the card (341 if I remember right) and the only thing you should enter, besides manufacturer and model, is the amount of memory which in your case is 8192. According to the docs you should not choose any ramdac and not run X-probe. The tricky part is to set the correct values for the monitor. Check the technical information-pages in your manual to determine horizontal and vertical frequencies. Be careful here, wrong values will not bring much joy. And finally is to set the resolution. AFAIK xfree will scan the configuration file for the resolution to use, the first one encountered is the one used. In my configuration it said 320x256 640x480 800x600 1024x728 1152x864 1280x1024, and to get the highest one I simply switched the values. I don't know if this is the correct way do it, but it worked for me and if there are better ways then someone will surely tell us. /Andreas/pucko virtanen wrote: Somebody might know how to configure xserver for this: Matrox Productiva G100 Accelerator MGA G100 Memory 8M Board mapping 0800 Ramdac speed 230 MHz VGA Bios 1.1 The monitor it a Hyundai 17 (in that mO$ it is 1024x768) I managed to get Xserver working in a way, but most of the information on the screen is outside of the screen. Cannot even 'vidtune' it , because the starting point is outside the screen... In fvwm2 I cannot do anything because the whole screen is filled with a big panel buttons. Is there available right kind of Xserver for 'slink'? Or can I use something else? I tried to select all of the Matrox cards while running XF86Setup without any success. It is just selecting SVGA server and the result is as explained above. -hv -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: using AUI port of 3c529 (MCA) network card
Hello. I had a similar problem, but solved it in another quick dirty way. Instead if meddling with the module-parameters I simply took the 3Com Utility-disk, which was delivered with the card, booted it and used their setup-program to switch to the Coax-port and not go by autodetect. It might be an unusual solution, but it works fine. The utility/diagnostics-disk can be downloaded from 3Coms site also. /Andreas/pucko Matthew Munsey wrote: I've been unsuccessful in getting my 3Com 3c529 MCA Ethernet card to communicate with the network using the AUI port, although the 10baseT (twisted pair) connection with the card works fine. The 3c529 is the MCA (IBM's proprietary microchannel architecture for the PS/2 and other machines) version of the 3c509 (same chipset), so I use the 3c509.o module that came with my Debian installation (Linux 2.0.36). The 3c509.c file in the 2.0.36 source tree actually has MCA detection code for the 3c529, although I'm not sure that it's complete. To debug the problem, I've tried compiling the module myself from the 2.0.36 source tree, sometimes with certain modifications and also without any changes. However, I have the problem that the newly compiled 3c509.o will not work at all with my network card, even though the one that came with Debian (supposedly 2.0.36) does work. Is it possible that the 3c509.c source that was used in this version of Debian is different than the one in the 2.0.36 source tree I've been using to compile my own? Does anyone know what version of 3c509.c is in this Debian distribution? When I insmod the correct 3c509.o module without any arguments (insmod 3c509), I get the following (note that the card identification on the first line comes directly from the MCA card and thus has nothing to with the module's detection mechanism): # insmod 3c509 3c509: found 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (10baseT) at slot 3 eth0: 3c509 at 0x200 tag 0, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 99 a8 1e, IRQ 5. 3c509.c:1.16 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] After this, I manually run /etc/init.d/network, and the card then works fine off the 10baseT port. [Note: The version of 3c509.c in the 2.0.36 source tree is also identified as v1.16 2/3/98, so it seems like it should be the same.] However, when I run the version that I compiled myself from the 2.0.36 source tree, I get the following: # insmod 3c509 /lib/modules/2.0.36/net/3c509.o: init_module: Device or resource busy If I subsequently replace the 3c509.o file with the correct module (the one that came with the Debian distribution), it then works as shown above. However, I want to enable the AUI port on the network card, so I use the xcvr option to set the transceiver port to 1 (AUI), but I get the same response from the module (which still claims that I am using the 10baseT port, as seen in the second line of output, where it should instead say AUI port): # insmod 3c509 xcvr=1 3c509: found 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (10baseT) at slot 3 eth0: 3c509 at 0x200 tag 0, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 99 a8 1e, IRQ 5. 3c509.c:1.16 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I then run the /etc/init.d/network script as before, but I get no ping response from any hosts (including IPs on my local subnet). If I then unplug the AUI connector and plug in the 10baseT cable, thinking that the program decided to use the 10baseT port as it claimed (ignoring my xcvr=1 option), it still fails to work, and I am unable to use the network card until I reboot (because rmmod does not properly allow me to insmod again without the xcvr=1 option). Please cc: any responses to me, as the debian-user web archive only seems to store mail from the first few days of each month. Thanks for any advice or information on this setup and my difficulties. Matt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Installing X
I'm going to use slink, but I need X 3.3.3 (I have a Matrox G200), so I'm getting the 3.3.3.1 svga server right now... What more do I need? Can there be problems with mixing different versions?
Re: sblive,'n debian, one more time...
reboot or anything. then I switched to debain and tried to run the install script again to re-install the sound drivers (after compiling the proper kernel of course). the script thought everything went allright, but xmms (and mtv and anything else that wanted to use sound) thought otherwise. Uh, I was under the impression that the install script is only useful under RedHat, I think you have to do it manually. RedHat and Debian has some differences, not only the rpm/deb package systems. I've not tested the sb-live driver yet, havent bought a card yet, so this is just what i've read in the driver archive. /Marcus
Re: Anyone Use the New Riders Book/CD?
Also noticed that the standard Debian install package comes on 2 CD's, while the New Riders book has only a single CD. Is anything missing? I'd say so, unless it is an older version, 2.1 has 2 discs. Walter __ Walter Logeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.psybernet.co.nz
Re: Toshiba Satellite 2520CDS
I've put some information about using Linux on a Toshiba 4000CDT on my website: http://www.achc.demon.co.uk/linux/ Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.1 (Windows-free zone) Book Reviews: http://www.achc.demon.co.uk/bookreviews/ The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam) ---BeginMessage--- On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Stanley J. Benes wrote: The toshiba laptops require special (kernel?) install called the tecra. I think it's on the 2.1 slink CD, but I don't have my machine by me right now to check. Try looking for and using this. If you have slink on CD, the second disk boots with the Tecra disk image. Otherwise, you're looking for a file resc1440-tecra.bin which you can rawrite or dd to a floppy. Using the Tecra disk worked when I was installing hamm on my 480CDT while using the regular one didn't, so I think this should fix your boot problem. (For the curious, Tecra is a line of laptops from Toshiba. Apparently the problem that prevents Tecra laptops from booting also prevents other recent Toshiba laptops from booting, too.) Good luck! -- William Ono [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: 0x93BA6AFD fingerprint = E3 64 C5 43 3E B3 2D A6 C6 D7 E3 45 90 24 78 DE = fingerprint PGP-encrypted mail welcome! 640k ought to be enough for everybody. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ---End Message---
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Re: sblive,'n debian, one more time...
Marcus Johansson wrote: I've not tested the sb-live driver yet, havent bought a card yet, so this is just what i've read in the driver archive. Some companies will never learn .. I do not like companies that don't suplly information to developers! The only think the users can do is NOT TO BY UNDOCUMENTED HARDWARE! NDAs are only used to hide details about sucking low-end hardware! (See http://ultra.jcu.cz/black.html ALSA Project - Blacklist) I have a SB AWE 64 (shame on me) and IMHO the quality of SB soundcards isn't really good. So I switched back to my old Turtle Beach Tropez that does it's job much better! Bernhard -- __ ___ // )___---. \ |,( /`-- `. Bernhard Rieder \/ o\ ( _.-. ,'; mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ /`. \ , / | | \ ' .'`.; | | \.___ _-'.'| |--..,,,\_\-~ ''' _-'.' ___- ) ''''''---~
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dhcpcd (0.70) under Debian - some problems...
Hi, I have Debian 2.1 (dual boot with another OS...) sitting on a network here at work. Under win95, dhcpcd always gives me the same IP address, but when I boot under Debian, it always gives me a different IP which is annoying as it makes it hard to find by others and myself on the network. Can I get dhcpcd to give me a) the same address each time or preferably b) the same address I get when I boot into win95? Also, when installing the dhcpcd .deb, it would exit with a config error: Error: Post installation script exited with -1 but no more info, and wouldn't work. To get it to work I went into /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and ran the dhcpcd.postinst script I found there directly and it worked fine... But dselect marks it as a failed config and everytime tries to re-install it, thus re-breaking it (I've put it on 'hold' now). Anyway I can found out what the trouble is as the error message is pretty un-informative. Finally, I want to upgrade to a 2.2.x kernel as there a dual processor machine here I want to use - I believe there are some issues with dhcpcd 0.70 and 2.2.x kernels? Are there any easy workarounds so I can use dhcpc and 2.2.x kernels on our internal network? Ta Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
hard disk size
Hi, I have a IBM PS/2 77-OUA 486SX with a 212 MB HD (I accept condolences). It appears that cfdisk only detects 200 MB of the 212 MB. Is this normal? Thanks, Brian
errors when printing with samba
I have already sent this message to the list but I don't know if it has arrived because of problems with my subscription address, so I resend it: I have a debian machine with an epson 900 printer; I use samba to print from another machine with windows98; here is the problem: when printing a large job (e.g. an A4 photo at 1440dpi) I get an error somewhere in the middle: a file begins to arrive in /tmp and at a random time the transfers stops: on windows I have a message indicating an error in printing (printer not reachable); there is nothing in the samba logfile. It doesn't happen always at the same place; sometimes when the file is not too big it succeeds; If I setup the windows driver to print to a file instead of the remote printer, and I transfer the file with smbclient and then lpr it, all goes well. the printer part of my samba.conf is: [printers] comment = All Printers path = /tmp create mask = 0700 print ok = Yes browseable = No I use potato with samba2.04; thanks for any help on the cause of this problem; Hubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A doubt...
Respected Sir, I have installed Debian Linux 2.0 on a Pentium 90 Mhz machine. I am trying to configure so many things as I can . The major problem I am facing is about the network. After configuring the network, machine can connect to other machines on the network but it is not allowing other machines to connect to itself. The error on other machines is Connection refused . I tried a lot by playing with the files /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny. It is not working. Will you please sort out the problem for me ? By the way , one more thing. Can I configure various utilities (e.g. network) after system is installed once ? Or everytime I have to for boot/root (installation ) floppies ? Thanking you in anticipation, Sincerely yours, Mahendra
Re: errors when printing with samba
Hello: What I find amazing about M$95/98 is that if you turn off the screen saver, many problems disappear. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have already sent this message to the list but I don't know if it has arrived because of problems with my subscription address, so I resend it: I have a debian machine with an epson 900 printer; I use samba to print from another machine with windows98; here is the problem: when printing a large job (e.g. an A4 photo at 1440dpi) I get an error somewhere in the middle: a file begins to arrive in /tmp and at a random time the transfers stops: on windows I have a message indicating an error in printing (printer not reachable); there is nothing in the samba logfile. It doesn't happen always at the same place; sometimes when the file is not too big it succeeds; If I setup the windows driver to print to a file instead of the remote printer, and I transfer the file with smbclient and then lpr it, all goes well. the printer part of my samba.conf is: [printers] comment = All Printers path = /tmp create mask = 0700 print ok = Yes browseable = No I use potato with samba2.04; thanks for any help on the cause of this problem; Hubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null begin:vcard n:Iannarelli;Peter tel;fax:1+ 416 929 1056 tel;work:1+ 416 929 1885 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.GenXl.com org:GenX Internet Labs.;Operations adr:;;238a Gerrard St. East ;Toronto;Ontario;M5A 2E8;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;30656 fn:Peter Iannarelli end:vcard
Re: A doubt...
Hello: edit /etc/hosts.deny and comment out the PARANOID line. Bounce your portmap deamon or reboot your system and it should work. Peter Mahendra D. Khandkar SBO wrote: Respected Sir, I have installed Debian Linux 2.0 on a Pentium 90 Mhz machine. I am trying to configure so many things as I can . The major problem I am facing is about the network. After configuring the network, machine can connect to other machines on the network but it is not allowing other machines to connect to itself. The error on other machines is Connection refused . I tried a lot by playing with the files /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny. It is not working. Will you please sort out the problem for me ? By the way , one more thing. Can I configure various utilities (e.g. network) after system is installed once ? Or everytime I have to for boot/root (installation ) floppies ? Thanking you in anticipation, Sincerely yours, Mahendra -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null begin:vcard n:Iannarelli;Peter tel;fax:1+ 416 929 1056 tel;work:1+ 416 929 1885 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.GenXl.com org:GenX Internet Labs.;Operations adr:;;238a Gerrard St. East ;Toronto;Ontario;M5A 2E8;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;30656 fn:Peter Iannarelli end:vcard
Re: A doubt...
hi mahendra ... congrats on getting ur debian system up and going !!! I am facing is about the network. After configuring the network, machine can connect to other machines on the network but it is not allowing ok..so ur networking is working fine.. other machines to connect to itself. The error on other machines is Connection refused . I tried a lot by playing with the files looks like either the applications are not installed or not started... more details reqd. here ... do u mean that u r not able to telnet to the linux box ? or ftp or www browse ? u can check what servers are stated by the command netstat -at | less for example , my machine shows the following... _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] venu]$ netstat -at |less Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp0 0 *:telnet*:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:ftp *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:800 *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:www *:* LISTEN __ the above shows that the telnet, ftp , www servers are in the active (LISTEN) so u can telnet into this server from another machine etc... look into the man pages of netstat for more details.. all initialization scripts are installed in /etc/init* ... ( check that out ) /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny. It is not working. Will you please sort out the problem for me ? another thing ... have u installed the relevant packages ? check with dselect.. or dpkg look into the man pages for dpkg.. (don't remember the command !!) By the way , one more thing. Can I configure various utilities (e.g. network) after system is installed once ? Or everytime I have to for boot/root (installation ) floppies ? sure u can configure all the utilities after installation btw: have u read the debian installation manual ? its available at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install also tons of info is available in /usr/doc and especially /usr/doc/HOWTO Thanking you in anticipation, cherio... venu ps: so mahendra... are u from Pune Univ. Physics dept ?... then i may have met u before... are u involved with the IT syllabus etc
Re: errors when printing with samba
Peter Iannarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello: What I find amazing about M$95/98 is that if you turn off the screen saver, many problems disappear. thanks for your answer, Peter, but I had already tried that; the screen saver is disabled; Hubert
Re: dselect woes
Since no one has responded will add a few more comments. I now see the message is md5sum. I was new installing using apt I downloaded a user profile. It looked like apt drew all files from stable main. Just got to the end of all the downloading when dselect now shows the message md5sum. Have cked archives and came up empty. Since its a new install until I get this user profile installed I don't have any man command. Do I dump the 147m I downloaded and restart? Dean Dean wrote: Hi all, Having just downloaded a user profile, dselect seems to hang just when it should be ready to install. Going through the options the install shows a quick message I think is: cksum 5md. It flashes so fast and goes right back to the choice menu's so I'm not sure. TM for dselect begginers doesn't list this error message, so after trying all the dselect options 3 times, I come to you for direction. Thanks to all. PS I think the installation is really getting smoother. Dean PPS: Don't know if this is anything but ppp.log had this message: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP
Re: Problem: can't log in/su with any non-root user
On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 03:11:40PM -0500, Brad wrote: Now, the only question is Which package did this?... Back in the 1.1 or 1.2 days there was this magic bug where the permissions on /tmp would get screwed up -- they would become -rwxr-xr-x or something like that. A lot of apps don't handle that very well. X programs say they are unable to connecct with an error 111 or something like that (presumably because they can't create their Unix domain socket in /tmp). Very ugly; I never found out what caused it, but it went away in about 1.3. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
re:HP LaserJet 2100TN question
Hi, have a look at the package psputils. You will need a ppd-file for your printer but that should be on the CDROM shipped with the printer. -Peter Subject: HP LaserJet 2100TN question Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Date: 26 Jul 99 04:02:41 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Hugo) I have this printer hooked up to my ethernet network, and everything works great (I was actually amazed at how easy it was to configure everything... from box to printing in about 20 minutes... great printer!) My question, though, is how to make use of the features of the 2100. That is, I have a third paper tray... how to I tell it which to use? How can I change the resolutions (max is 1200dpi), or whatever other features are available to change? I have searched all over, and I can't seem to find anything on HPs site, HOWTOs, newsgroups, etc, regarding this. I did see a mention of WebJet from HP (I have a built-in JetDirect ethernet device for the printer), but that sounded more like printer administration (accounting, passwords, trouble reports, etc). I am looking for some command line option or filter setting or whatever that allows me to change these things (by the way, it supports postscript, so I have been printing to the raw device with no troubles... should I have a filter in there?) Thanks for any thoughts. Dan Hugo --- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/people/ppregler
Re: Mutt dependency on an MTA
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:06:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:27:57PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote: It still needs an MTA to send mail :-) Not necessarily on the same machine. Imho no mua should bepend on amta, just recommend. Dselect will make you install recommends anyway, but apt-get doesn't.(I think) Perhaps you're thinking of netscape, which can deliver mail itself to remote SMTP servers. Most unix mail programs do not (and should not). As to making MUAs not require MTAs, I suspect approximately 0.001% of our users would like to do this. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: lost the root password
On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 11:42:44AM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote: Get 'tom's unix on a floppy' or any other linux boot disk. The debian rescue disk may work, but I never use ti so I don't know. Boot that floppy in your machine, and mount the partition of your hard disk that contains /etc on /mnt : for example, # mount /dev/hda1 /mnt Then, edit the passwd file IN THE MOUNTD PARTITION Oh, it's much easier than that. At the lilo prompt, give the name of your kernel and the parameter init=/bin/bash eg boot: linux init=/bin/bash Instead of loading init, bash is loaded, giving you a root shell. Mount the root file system read/write, run passwd, then reboot. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: lost the root password
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Instead of loading init, bash is loaded, giving you a root shell. Mount the root file system read/write, run passwd, then reboot. Couldn't this break the filesystem? Isn't a sync or remount as read-only needed? -- I congratulate you. Happy goldfish bowl to you, to me, to everyone, and may each of you fry in hell forever. -- Isaac Asimov, The Dead Past
Re: clnt_call errors in NIS
Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People think that the NIS package does far more than it actually does; the only thing it does is keeping an eye on the current nis server (ypbind). All NIS access is actually handled by glibc Okay, but which version of libc6 is supposed to work with NIS? I've got the same error, and I even tried with libc6_2.1.1, but same thing. On the clients, I get the error `YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bound'. Greetings, joachim
Re: using AUI port of 3c529 (MCA) network card
Quoting Matthew Munsey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I've been unsuccessful in getting my 3Com 3c529 MCA Ethernet card to
communicate with the network using the AUI port, although the 10baseT
(twisted pair) connection with the card works fine. The 3c529 is the MCA
(IBM's proprietary microchannel architecture for the PS/2 and other
machines) version of the 3c509 (same chipset), so I use the 3c509.o module
that came with my Debian installation (Linux 2.0.36). The 3c509.c file in
the 2.0.36 source tree actually has MCA detection code for the 3c529,
although I'm not sure that it's complete.
To debug the problem, I've tried compiling the module myself from the
2.0.36 source tree, sometimes with certain modifications and also without
any changes. However, I have the problem that the newly compiled 3c509.o
will not work at all with my network card, even though the one that came
with Debian (supposedly 2.0.36) does work. Is it possible that the 3c509.c
source that was used in this version of Debian is different than the one in
the 2.0.36 source tree I've been using to compile my own? Does anyone know
what version of 3c509.c is in this Debian distribution?
I would doubt that it's a different version, but there are IFDEFs
in there which could change what's actually compiled. (Thus I
notice that my own 2.0.36 is 600bytes smaller than the installation
version, presumably because CONFIG_MCA is not set by me.)
When I insmod the correct 3c509.o module without any arguments (insmod
3c509), I get the following (note that the card identification on the first
line comes directly from the MCA card and thus has nothing to with the
module's detection mechanism):
You're sure of that? My interpretation of the source is that only
two unsigned chars are read from the card (apart from the id, of
course).
# insmod 3c509
3c509: found 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (10baseT) at slot 3
eth0: 3c509 at 0x200 tag 0, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 99 a8 1e, IRQ 5.
3c509.c:1.16 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After this, I manually run /etc/init.d/network, and the card then works
fine off the 10baseT port.
[Note: The version of 3c509.c in the 2.0.36 source tree is also identified
as v1.16 2/3/98, so it seems like it should be the same.]
However, when I run the version that I compiled myself from the 2.0.36
source tree, I get the following:
# insmod 3c509
/lib/modules/2.0.36/net/3c509.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
As I understand it, that message is a catch-all. It might be worth
comparing your .config file with the installation one if you're
compiling the whole kernel. If you're not, are you sure you are
setting all the necessary switches? For example, I would expect my
own 3c509.o to produce that message on your system.
If I subsequently replace the 3c509.o file with the correct module (the one
that came with the Debian distribution), it then works as shown above.
That would suggest something is missing in your version. I take it this
is still the unmodified source. All bets are off if you modify the
source (unless you're just mispelling the odd text string to trace
what's coming from where - e.g. to test your theory about where
3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (10baseT) at slot 3 is coming from).
However, I want to enable the AUI port on the network card, so I use the
xcvr option to set the transceiver port to 1 (AUI), but I get the same
response from the module (which still claims that I am using the 10baseT
port, as seen in the second line of output, where it should instead say AUI
port):
# insmod 3c509 xcvr=1
3c509: found 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (10baseT) at slot 3
eth0: 3c509 at 0x200 tag 0, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 99 a8 1e, IRQ 5.
3c509.c:1.16 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can't see how this would work. I can see where irq=N gets overwritten at
if (dev) {/* Set passed-in IRQ or I/O Addr. */
but there's no mention of if_port that I can see. My interpretation
is that the if_port emerges from the id in:
struct el3_mca_adapters_struct el3_mca_adapters[] = {
{ 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (10base2), 0x627c },
{ 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (10baseT), 0x627d },
{ 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (test mode), 0x62db },
{ 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (TP or coax), 0x62f6 },
{ 3Com 3c529 EtherLink III (TP), 0x62f7 },
{ NULL, 0 },
};
That would imply that the card has to tell the kernel which transceiver
it is going to use through the id.
Thanks for any advice or information on this setup and my difficulties.
The best advice is probably still to set the card up with its own
(dos) utility for a fixed transceiver.
Cheers,
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official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: setting variables under an X11 session
Micha How can i set an environment variable under an x11 session Micha (not a specific xterm under x) so that they work for Micha programs not opened through a terminal ( for example the Micha CVSROOT var for tkcvs) /etc/environment should do it. How do you export variables set in /etc/environment? Since login and sshd also use /etc/environment you can't put export statements into this file. login seems to ignore lines in /etc/environment that export variables but sshd outputs warnings and the manual page of sshd explicitly states: /etc/environment This file is read into the environment at login (if it exists). It can only contain empty lines, com ment lines (that start with ´#´), and assignment lines of the form name=value. Since login and sshd export the variables set in /etc/environment IMHO /etc/X11/Xsession should to this too. I've inserted the following for-loop into /etc/X11/Xsession: if [ -f /etc/environment ]; then . /etc/environment for n in `cut -s -d= -f1 /etc/environment`; do export $n; done fi Maybe it would be better to use awk and a regular expression instead of cut to find the variable assignments.
Re: dselect woes
Quoting Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Since no one has responded will add a few more comments. I now see the message is md5sum. I was new installing using apt I downloaded a user profile. It looked like apt drew all files from stable main. Just got to the end of all the downloading when dselect now shows the message md5sum. Have cked archives and came up empty. I don't understand your last sentence. Since its a new install until I get this user profile installed I don't have any man command. Do I dump the 147m I downloaded and restart? I wouldn't do that. I would leave dpkg to sort out the mess itself. Presumably you have a lot of .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ so just (as root) type dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*deb and see how it gets on. When it's finished, you might try dpkg --configure --pending and you can repeat that until there's no change. Then type dpkg -l | less and look for lines not starting ii (type /!^ii press return and type n about four times to get past the preamble). You might then use dselect to refetch just those packages. Anything to avoid a 147MB download! PPS: Don't know if this is anything but ppp.log had this message: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Just an informational message, no worry. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Gnome
Hi, I would like to set up the latest version of GNOME on my debian 2.1 (slink) box. However I do not know what is the best way to go about it. Can someone please point me to the best way to install gnome without using apt. Would the it be best for me to use apt (as described on the gnome pages) or are there any official debian packages for the latest gnome deb's if so what else will need upgrading. Regards Grez
Re: hard disk size
Brian J. McHugh wrote: Hi, I have a IBM PS/2 77-OUA 486SX with a 212 MB HD (I accept condolences). It appears that cfdisk only detects 200 MB of the 212 MB. Is this normal? Thanks, Brian This may be your standard Manufacturer Calling 1,000,000 bytes a MB when it's really 1048576 bytes so they can call their disks bigger than they actually are. I don't have a calculator on me so I can't tell, but it's certianly something to check. --Evan
Re: help with socket programming[OFF TOPIC]
Quoting Shao Zhang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
while (1) {
if ((NewHandle = accept(CGIHandle, (struct sockaddr
*)CGI_addr, \
sin_size)) == -1) {
perror(cannot accept);
continue;
}
if (!fork() ) { /* this is the child */
/* process the cgi request; */
close(NewHandle);
exit(0);
}
close(NewHandle); /* parent does not need this */
}
My problem is I have to close the NewHandle for the parent process.
But once I did this, when another request comes
in, accept will allocate a new file descriptor with the same number it
allocated before, since it is thinking the last one is closed.
If the last child process still has not finished, then I will have two
child process with the same descriptor, and then the child
will return the request to the wrong location.
You've answered this yourself. a new file descriptor with the same number.
So you have, for example, file descriptors p(arent)-n(umber) which becomes
p-n=c(hild)1-n at the fork. p-n is then closed, leaving c1-n. Now the second
request leads to p-n again, which becomes p-n=c2-n, and p-n gets closed.
At any one time, there exist: p-n=cc-n .. c2-n c1-n and they're all
unique except the first pair. n is the same in all cases, but they're in
different processes, and so distinguishable.
Cheers,
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Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA
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official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: A doubt...
Mahendra D. Khandkar SBO wrote: I have installed Debian Linux 2.0 on a Pentium 90 Mhz machine. I am trying to configure so many things as I can . The major problem I am facing is about the network. After configuring the network, machine can connect to other machines on the network but it is not allowing other machines to connect to itself. The error on other machines is Connection refused . I tried a lot by playing with the files /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny. It is not working. Will you please sort out the problem for me ? Look at your /var/log/system.log file... does it say why the connection is being refused? there are two possibilities that I can see: the servers aren't running, or an /etc/hosts* problem. if you want, you can TEMPORARIALLY put: ALL: ALL as the first line in your /etc/hosts.allow file to make sure that it's not blocking anything. If this fixes the problem, then You just need to find out which rule is causing the problem... comment them out one at a time until it is fixed. then fix the broken rule. By the way , one more thing. Can I configure various utilities (e.g. network) after system is installed once ? Or everytime I have to for boot/root (installation ) floppies ? of course. most of the configuration files are sored in the /etc heirarchy... some programs(like sendmail) have configure utilities (eg. sendmailconf). check out /usr/doc/package and the manfiles for information about specific packages. --Evan
RE: debian vs redhat
- who have administered both dists. I have administered both boxes. As mentioned with redhat you can not use both linuxconf and edit the scripts by hand. As far as the scripts with redhat once you inderstand how they are put together you can edit them by hand just as easy as another dist. My biggest reason for making the RedHat to debain switch was because of the package manager. The debian package manager is much nicer, cleaner, and use ful then the redhat package manager. I have also never successfully upgraded a redhat box from one version to another. I always end up reinstalling redhat. When debian made the libc to glibc switch everything went smoothly. RedHat has some to learn. Bob
Re: kernel read/write
Quoting Michael Edward Christman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm trying to write between the application level and the kernel. I am using version 2.0.34 and am attempting to use memcpy_tofs and memcpy_fromfs, but am having some trouble. If I use these functions in the application level, what do I use for the *to and *from variables. I assume that you can use a FILE for whatever is in the user space, Yes, it's the second argument of the foo_read or foo_write. but where is the data stored in the kernel? Is it something like /dev/file?, and if so, how do I assign a pointer to it? It's just an automatic (I think that's the jargon; ordinary) variable declared in the routine. Or are you talking large transfers? Then you'd have to kmalloc some memory. One of the nice things about 2.2 kernels is that get/put_user do all the VERIFY_... checking for you (assuming you're doing single value read/writes). WBTE (Wet Behind The Ears) ditto. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
RE: thank you
Michael, Thank you for the follow up. I will make a note of your new address. Michele A. Banza Access Data Consulting 1-888-878-2322 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Merten Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 8:49 PM To: Michele Banza Subject: Re: thank you On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 04:34:14PM -0600, Michele Banza wrote: Dear Michael, Thank you for your resume. Unfortunately, the opportunity we had available has been filled with another candidate. I will keep your resume on file and contact you should anything else that matches your skills become available. Thank you for your time. Michele, Thank you for the response. At times, as I send out resumes, I get the distinct feeling that they're getting lost in some kind of an internet 'black hole'. Let me take this opportunity to also notify you of a change in my e-mail address (due to mail server problems on popaccount.com). If it's not too much trouble, you might want to make a note of it on my resume. Thanks. Old e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike -- Michael Merten --- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NRA Life Member -- http://www.nra.org --- Debian GNU/Linux Fan -- http://www.debian.org --- CenLA-LUG Founder -- http://www.angelfire.com/la2/cenlalug
Re: Streaming Media
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Ben Crocker wrote: Hi, I'm just enquiring about whether there is any streaming video and audio software for Debian, or Linux in general. Realaudio 5.0 works pretty well. There is wrapper/installer for debian. regards, = = Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated = = == Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 = == = = = = E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] = WebPage : http://andre.lasaltech.com
Re: MD5Sum mismatch in potato
On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: When running apt-get upgrade, I get this error: E: MD5Sum mismatch for package menu Running Debian potato. Assuming you have 0.3.11, just run it again and/or switch mirrors. It should automatically erase the downloaded file when it shows that error - it usually means a botched resume, incomplete mirror, or something like that. I have traced it to a bad menu*.deb file. replaced it with a new one and now it works. regards, = = Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated = = == Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 = == = = = = E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] = WebPage : http://andre.lasaltech.com
Ms Netshow..
Where? can I get this beast? Freshmeat tell me to go to microsoft, but they don't have it.. -- Matthew McFarlane -
Re: Ms Netshow...
Where? can I get this beast? Not likely. For over a year I think, Microsoft's site has said that netshow for linux would be available in a few weeks. Can we say vaporware?
Re: PPP woes (again)
Paul writes: Here it is. Looks normal, except for 'passive' being enabled (that doesn't account for your problem). I still find it curious however that I if this is an ISP problem and I need to ping every so often that a week or so ago I had Wvdial working fine without doing so. ISP's do change policies. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: Soffice
Hi, thomas == thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thomas Hi, not sure were this email should go but i give thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] a try... The most appropriate list, in this case, would have been debian-user@lists.debian.org, where there is a greater chance of more people listening who havce had similar problems, and know the solution. thomas I use dselect alot to upgrade my version of Potato.. Im not thomas sure which package or update who got my Staroffice to fail thomas when opening.. If you please could let me know which package thomas i shall downgrad or upgrade to get it work again i would be thomas very glad since i use soffice everyday.. I am not sure, but quite possibly the issue may be the libc upgrade? I havfe heard rumors that so broke when upgrading from RH 5.2 to 6.0, and the major change there too was libc. Possibly someone on debian-user can answer this definitively. manoj -- Most of us, when all is said and done, like what we like and make up reasons for it afterwards. Soren F. Petersen Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
Re: thank you
LOL! how the heck did this get to the list? Must've been in the wrong folder when I e-mailed her. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth :/ On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:17:34AM -0600, Michele Banza wrote: Michael, Thank you for the follow up. I will make a note of your new address. Michele A. Banza Access Data Consulting 1-888-878-2322 Mike [Private mail welcome, but no need to CC: me on list replies.] -- Michael Merten --- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NRA Life Member -- http://www.nra.org --- Debian GNU/Linux Fan -- http://www.debian.org --- CenLA-LUG Founder -- http://www.angelfire.com/la2/cenlalug -- This from George Orwell -- of all people: People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -- Jeff Cooper
Re: Installing X
On 30 Jul, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | I'm going to use slink, but I need X 3.3.3 (I have a Matrox G200), so I'm | getting the 3.3.3.1 svga server right now... What more do I need? Can there | be problems with mixing different versions? | | I upgraded to potato for this very reason. You can't really mix the two distributions very well. The alternative, would be to build X 3.3.3 from sources so you don't have libc problems. -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
Re: Installing X
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 egm2@jps.net wrote: On 30 Jul, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | I'm going to use slink, but I need X 3.3.3 (I have a Matrox G200), so I'm | getting the 3.3.3.1 svga server right now... What more do I need? Can there | be problems with mixing different versions? | | I upgraded to potato for this very reason. You can't really mix the two distributions very well. The alternative, would be to build X 3.3.3 from sources so you don't have libc problems. I'm running Xfree 3.3.3.1 on my slink system without any problems at all. I just got the debs from ftp://ftp.netgod.net/x and they work fine. Rob === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled. ===
Re: Installing X
On 30 Jul, Robert Rati wrote: | I'm running Xfree 3.3.3.1 on my slink system without any problems at all. | I just got the debs from ftp://ftp.netgod.net/x and they work fine. | Really, well when I last checked, there were no drivers for the Matrox Millenium G200 8MB AGP card in XFree86-3.3.3.1. -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
XEmacs and W3
Hi, launching w3 en XEmacs version 20.4 from packages 20.4-13 gives the followin error: Invalid regexp: Invalid preceding regular expression That happens with M-x w3 and M-x w3-fetch as well. Any Idea Thanks. -- __ Felipe Alvarez Harnecker. QlSoftware. Tel. 09.874.60.17 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Potenciado por Ql/Linux http://www.qlsoft.cl __
Re: using AUI port of 3c529(MCA) network card
Hey, (sorry if this isn't threaded right -- I am on the digested version of debian-user) I will have to check my 3c529 at home, but I think you have to boot off the reference disk and select the transceiver before the driver will use it. Good luck, -Jonathan -- Jonathan HankinsHomewood City Schools [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mutt dependency on an MTA
Pine can do quite well with the MTA on a remote machine as well (simply set the smtp server in setup/config), so let's not throw this on Messenger only, real MUAs have the capability to check POP/IMAP mail without a local copy of a MTA as well. IIRC you could use elm to check POP mail without a local MTA (I remember screwing up sendmail to the point of failure once and still checking my POP mail via elm, which was kinda stupid, because I had a couple of messages I really would've rather kept so should've waited to check my POPmail until I rebuilt the system :( ). As for a MUA that doesn't require a MTA not being a useful solution for many users, look at the popularity of fetchmail, a MTA that is mostly for grabbing POP mail: wouldn't it be a more elegant solution to simply remove all MTAs from the system and use a MUA that has POP/IMAP retrieval capabilities in that particular case? Installing something for a portion of it's usefulness is NEVER an elegant solution, in fact, I'd call it a kludge offhand. There ARE MUAs that need no local MTA to do the job they're installed for, so why force users into installing a package that might never see use at all--sounds like the MUA really didn't depend on the MTA at all, doesn't it? Sounds to me like to the user in question got the significant amount of functionality without the dependency, giving the Depends field the lie. I never used mutt much, so can't say for sure if it can use a remote host's MTA and POP/IMAP, but if it can, then it can function without a MTA, so the dependency should therefore be reclassified. On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:06:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:27:57PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote: It still needs an MTA to send mail :-) Not necessarily on the same machine. Imho no mua should bepend on amta, just recommend. Dselect will make you install recommends anyway, but apt-get doesn't.(I think) Perhaps you're thinking of netscape, which can deliver mail itself to remote SMTP servers. Most unix mail programs do not (and should not). As to making MUAs not require MTAs, I suspect approximately 0.001% of our users would like to do this. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null A list is only as strong as its weakest link. -- Don Knuth John Galt ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mutt dependency on an MTA
Hi On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 10:09:51PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:06:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:27:57PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote: It still needs an MTA to send mail :-) Not necessarily on the same machine. Imho no mua should bepend on amta, just recommend. Dselect will make you install recommends anyway, but apt-get doesn't.(I think) Perhaps you're thinking of netscape, which can deliver mail itself to remote SMTP servers. Most unix mail programs do not (and should not). Yes, for some reason I thought mutt did smtp. Sorry. As to making MUAs not require MTAs, I suspect approximately 0.001% of our users would like to do this. I agree. -- Rob Murray
Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails
Hi, [cross posted to debian-user, since this has gone beyond the charter of the -mentor list] ;-) Joseph == Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian == Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian So we agree. You wouldn't sign the key without checking the Brian fingerprint first. The idea being, if the fingerprint matches, Brian then John Smith must have the matching private key (and not Brian somebody else). Yes, though now that you point it out, this is an assumption. I am assuming that a) the person who has 2 picture ids of is actually john smith b) the fingerprint actually belongs to his own key -- not to John Smith from arkansas, who is a different person, but john smiths is a common name ;-) c) He still has access to his key, and can actually use it (people tend to forget pass phrases) I can't figure out a way that b) is actually useful -- but possibly there is a way to exploit something that I can't think of. Joseph Might I ask how most people are supposed to get two picture Joseph IDs? Joseph This means that about 80% of the populace will NEVER get a Joseph signature from you. Still, if that's what you feel you need, Joseph that's what you should ask for. That's OK. A signature from me is not exactly a _requirement_ for anything at all, you know ;-) Joseph well first you type pgp -fkxa 0xyour keyID secring.pgp | Joseph (actually I have no idea if -kxa would do that for a secret Joseph key but knowing PGP's handling of keyrings I wouldn't be Joseph surprised) It works. That is why I had to revoke my original ID (hangs head in shame). I was playing with using that to maintain backup secret keyrings but that was years ago. Joseph Stealing the ID might work if you look anything like the Joseph other person. Of course it might be difficult to steal Joseph two---but that's because most people haven't got two to Joseph steal. See? requiring two ID's does make the job of the ID stealer harder ;-) Brian Remember that there are two issues involved here: Brian 1. Who has the private key (and can decrypt/sign mail)? Brian 2. What is the name and E-Mail address of this person? Well, for the FAQ, how about this key signing process? -- a) Everyone comes to the meeting with 2 picture ID's, at least one of which is issued by the government. b) everyone comes with lots and lots of slips of paper containing their name, email address, and key fingerprint of a key available on a public server (the alternative is a laptop and floppies, and people gather public keys on their floppy from other peoples floppies rather than downloading keys offline from public servers) The name on the slip *must* match the name on the picture ID's. c) everyone has a sheet of paper, and a pen d) To get Mr X to sign your key, 1) You think up a arbitrary word, and write it on one of the slips of paper. On you sheet of paper, you make an entry for Mr X, and you write this random word there. 2) you ask Mr X for a random integer. Write it down on the slip of paper, and hand it to Mr X. On your sheet, write down that number on the line corresponding to Mr X. (you may want to get _his_ email too for reminder) 3) Repeat with Mr Y and so on 4) Wait for Mr X to send you encrypted mail containing your secret word, and a new number. You look up Mr X in your sheet, match the word, and get the number he gave you. Write both numbers (the old one on the sheet of paper he gave you in person, and the new one in the email message) in a mail message, sign, and possibly encrypt with Mr X's key. Send it back to Mr X. 5) Mr X send your key back to you, with his signature. e) To sign someones key 1) Look at the picture ID's. Make sure the names match. 2) think up a random integer, and tell it to the person requesting the signature. 3) Make sure you have a slip containing the name, email address, random number you generated, and a secret word that the person has created. Check the name against the picture id's. 4) Obtain the public key for that person. (either from public servers, or a physical copy on a floppy, or whatever). 5) CHeck to see if the fingerprint matches. Check to see that the ID has the same name as found on the picture ID's you saw. Make sure the email addresses match. 6) Create another random integer, different from the one you gave that person before. Send a mail message, containg the secret word that the person gave you, the new number you generated, encrypted with the key you just obtained, sent to the email address in the key. 7) If you get a reply that contains bot the old and the new numbers, and is signed by the
C++ functions help
Where can i find help for the c++ functions? exept for the info page on iostream i couldn't find any info on the other libraries or functions of c++. Thanx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hard disk size
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 09:43:35AM -0400, Evan Van Dyke wrote: Brian J. McHugh wrote: It appears that cfdisk only detects 200 MB of the 212 MB. Is this normal? This may be your standard Manufacturer Calling 1,000,000 bytes a MB when it's really 1048576 bytes so they can call their disks bigger than they actually are. I don't have a calculator on me so I can't tell, but it's certianly something to check. I have a calculator on hand and it only comes to 209.7 MB figured that way. Just thogh I would comment :) -- Frisco Rose By any other name, I would smell the same E.O.U. Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] REU Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] Science Journal Ed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] EOU Hoke Center 307 (541) 962-3787 La Grande, OR. 97850
Re: Installing X
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 egm2@jps.net wrote: On 30 Jul, Robert Rati wrote: | I'm running Xfree 3.3.3.1 on my slink system without any problems at all. | I just got the debs from ftp://ftp.netgod.net/x and they work fine. | Really, well when I last checked, there were no drivers for the Matrox Millenium G200 8MB AGP card in XFree86-3.3.3.1. I do not have a Matrox Millenium, but I believe that card uses the SVGA xserver. I believe the XFree web page has a list of cards that work with SVGA. I'm pretty sure the G200 is one of them, as my friend had one and that's what we used to get it to work. Rob === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled. ===
Default editor at install
It's been a while since I've last installed Debian from scratch. Is ViM the default vi clone installed? I thought it was another clone. Anyone know? Rob === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled. ===
Re: dselect woes
Thanks David, worked great. The dselect manual for beginners should definitely have this information. For some reason the manual assumes dselect will handle any and all installing and configuing. I'll leave David's response for manual maintainer. Dean Presumably you have a lot of .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ so just (as root) type dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*deb and see how it gets on. When it's finished, you might try dpkg --configure --pending and you can repeat that until there's no change. Then type dpkg -l | less and look for lines not starting ii (type /!^ii press return and type n about four times to get past the preamble). You might then use dselect to refetch just those packages.
Re: debian vs redhat
On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 02:29:34PM -0400, Bryan Scaringe wrote: I never did get the dhcpcd client (the new one, with 2.2.x support) under either RedHat or Debian. But dhclient is a much cleaner program. Its in the dhcpcd-sv package in potato. The init script is really clever, it won't start dhcpcd on 2.2.x kernels. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: Soffice
* Manoj Srivastava said: thomas when opening.. If you please could let me know which package thomas i shall downgrad or upgrade to get it work again i would be thomas very glad since i use soffice everyday.. I am not sure, but quite possibly the issue may be the libc upgrade? I havfe heard rumors that so broke when upgrading from RH 5.2 to 6.0, and the major change there too was libc. It's certainly a case of the libc6 upgrade. I didn't see the beginning of this thread, so I don't know which version of SO you are talking about. I will assume that it's 5.1 - the latest release. SO5.1 requires you to have glibc2.0 while the current potato uses v2.1 of the library. You don't have to downgrade anything at all - it's sufficient to do some wizardry with the SO5.1 binaries and the .so loader. Below is a full recipe on how to do that (tested by me yesterday after downloading a fresh copy of SO5.1 :)): 1. Get the libc6_2.0.7.19981211-6.deb and install it to some directory in the /usr/local tree (e.g. /usr/local/glibc2.0) 2. Do ln -sf /usr/local/glibc2.0/ld-2.0.7.so /lib/ld-2.0.7.so 3. Get some comfortable binary editor (hexeditor is a good choice) 4. Unpack the soffice .tar file as usually 5. Unzip the so51inst/office51/setup.zip to a separate directory 6. Copy the so51inst/office51/setup.ins to the same directory where you put the files extracted in the previous step. 7. Change the case of all the files in the directory to lowercase: for x in [A-Z]*; do mv $x `echo $x | tr A-Z a-z` done 8. Open the setup.bin file in the binary editor, find the string /lib/ld-linux.so.2 and replace it with /lib/ld-2.0.7.so *** MAKE SURE YOU PUT TWO NULL CHARACTERS AFTER THE NEW STRING *** 9. Start X-Window and open an xterm window 10. Now execute (while still in the directory the setup.zip was extracted to): LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/glibc2.0:/lib:/usr/lib:./ ./setup 11. SO5.1 installation starts. Enter the path where you extracted the original soffice .tar when prompted for the location of the install files. 12. After the setup finishes successfully go back to the shell prompt and then switch to the bin/ subdirectory of the location where you installed the Office. 13. Unpack the attached tar.gz file in this subdirectory (sorry, couldn't make a diff because I haven't saved the originals :(() 14. Repeat the step 8 for every .bin file in the directory. If everything went well (e.g. if I didn't misled you :))) you should now be able to use SO5.1 without problems. marek soscripts.tar.gz Description: Binary data pgpYQ9bKzEsAb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: C++ functions help
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 07:50:52PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: Where can i find help for the c++ functions? exept for the info page on iostream i couldn't find any info on the other libraries or functions of c++. C++ implementations vary greatly between platforms, and even between different compilers on the same platform. One library that seems to be present on some newer compilers is the Standard Template Library (STL). Some information is available through Yahoo: http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Programming_Languages/ C_and_C__/C__/Class_Libraries/Standard_Template_Library__STL_/ Also, C functions can be used perfectly well in C++. Check out the glibc2.1 info pages in the glibc-doc package. A word of warning: In my (albeit limited) experience, C++ and the STL has been more of a pain than a blessing. I wrote several programs that used the STL for linked lists and sorting, and found out that FreeBSD is not up to par with Linux in terms of C++ compilers and lacked some STL features I needed, and ended up rewriting the programs in Python to get them to port over cleanly. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: Default editor at install
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 11:59:39AM -0500, Robert Rati wrote: It's been a while since I've last installed Debian from scratch. Is ViM the default vi clone installed? I thought it was another clone. Anyone know? Nope, nvi is, because it is bug-for-bug compatible with VI. Also, I believe that ae is the default editor, although there was a heated debate on debian-devel a while back about the default editor. Our beloved VIM lost out because people said it wasn't intuitive and that it was too hard to learn sob. You can take my VIM when you pry it from my cold, dead, fingers! -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: minimum delay maximum throughout
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 11:03:28AM +0300, Halis Osman Erkan wrote: I want to learn more about minimum delay maximum throughput in ftp and telnet there would be a way to make settings to provide them. iphains TOS bit can do this ; i know ; But HOW? and whats the logic? Rgrds Halis Osman ERKAN Sophomore / Ege Unv. There is a nice explanation of this in the ipchains-howto (grep for TOS). I can not add anything to that :-) -Lex pgpBo6BV9YOzv.pgp Description: PGP signature
IpcMemoryCreate: shmget failed
Hi, I'm trying to start postgres 6.5.1 just compiled in my slink system and I'm getting the above error. What could be the problem? How to fix it? I'm using 2.2.10 kernel with the updated netbase and lsof (from the Debian page). Thanks, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
Re: C++ functions help
Micha Feigin wrote: Where can i find help for the c++ functions? exept for the info page on iostream i couldn't find any info on the other libraries or functions of c++. There is avery good STL documentation in main/binary-i386/doc/stl-manual_.deb I haven't found any really good documantation about the rest of the C++ library. There is a excellent german book called Die C++ Standardbibilothek (The C++ Standard library) with ISBN 3-8273-1023-7 from Addison Wesley. Maybe there is also an english translation. Bernhard -- __ ___ // )___---. \ |,( /`-- `. Bernhard Rieder \/ o\ ( _.-. ,'; mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ /`. \ , / | | \ ' .'`.; | | \.___ _-'.'| |--..,,,\_\-~ ''' _-'.' ___- ) ''''''---~
Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 11:41:37AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: /* * keeping -mentors for this message only, replies are likely to get even * more off-charter for that group, so don't reply there. Note I'm not * subscribed to -user, however... */ Yes, though now that you point it out, this is an assumption. I am assuming that a) the person who has 2 picture ids of is actually john smith b) the fingerprint actually belongs to his own key -- not to John Smith from arkansas, who is a different person, but john smiths is a common name ;-) c) He still has access to his key, and can actually use it (people tend to forget pass phrases) I can't figure out a way that b) is actually useful -- but possibly there is a way to exploit something that I can't think of. Jor-el can... Another person acting as a proxy. It'd be very difficult to pull off and there are probably much easier ways to be a trusted key onto the keyring, but it is possible. Given I get asked for a passphrase every time I send an email, I won't forget mine. However, this is why gpg will let you generate a revoke certificate WITHOUT revoking the key as pgp does. The idea is that you should do this and print it. Then you put the result in a fireproof lockbox or in a safe-deposit box or something like that. Joseph well first you type pgp -fkxa 0xyour keyID secring.pgp | Joseph (actually I have no idea if -kxa would do that for a secret Joseph key but knowing PGP's handling of keyrings I wouldn't be Joseph surprised) It works. That is why I had to revoke my original ID (hangs head in shame). I was playing with using that to maintain backup secret keyrings but that was years ago. I figured it did, but I didn't want to spread misinformation without trying it, which I was not in the mood to risk doing with my own key and didn't have the patience to generate a crap key for testing. Joseph Stealing the ID might work if you look anything like the Joseph other person. Of course it might be difficult to steal Joseph two---but that's because most people haven't got two to Joseph steal. See? requiring two ID's does make the job of the ID stealer harder ;-) Except that with image editing software and a scanner fake IDs of the non-state variety are very easy to make. I could give you something you'd swear was a current school ID for the local junior college, though it wouldn't be. I could even get a picture of me to put on it if I was impatient---and if the ID is a few years dated and only somewhat resembled me, a student ID from this quarter at the school in my town would probably quell your suspicions... Remember that there are two issues involved here: 1. Who has the private key (and can decrypt/sign mail)? 2. What is the name and E-Mail address of this person? Well, for the FAQ, how about this key signing process? -- a) Everyone comes to the meeting with 2 picture ID's, at least one of which is issued by the government. I'm going to suggest that a person might want to ask for two, especially of someone they've only just met. It's paranoid and difficult to do, but it's not totally unreasonable. In that case of course I just list both names, yes? Or do you think the name in the keyid would not matter at that point? b) everyone comes with lots and lots of slips of paper containing their name, email address, and key fingerprint of a key available on a public server (the alternative is a laptop and floppies, and people gather public keys on their floppy from other peoples floppies rather than downloading keys offline from public servers) The name on the slip *must* match the name on the picture ID's. The name on the slip of paper would in my case, but my first name is Thomas and I don't ever use it. c) everyone has a sheet of paper, and a pen d) To get Mr X to sign your key, 1) You think up a arbitrary word, and write it on one of the slips of paper. On you sheet of paper, you make an entry for Mr X, and you write this random word there. 2) you ask Mr X for a random integer. Write it down on the slip of paper, and hand it to Mr X. On your sheet, write down that number on the line corresponding to Mr X. (you may want to get _his_ email too for reminder) 3) Repeat with Mr Y and so on 4) Wait for Mr X to send you encrypted mail containing your secret word, and a new number. You look up Mr X in your sheet, match the word, and get the number he gave you. Write both numbers (the old one on the sheet of paper he gave you in person, and the new one in the email message) in a mail message, sign, and possibly encrypt with Mr X's key. Send it back to Mr X. 5) Mr X send your key back to you, with his signature.
DEBIAN/SAMBA/NT
Hi, I'm trying to share my Linux home directory so that i can maintain it from my NT box. I've installed Samba 2.0 with encrypted passwords. I can see the samba server from NT (nethood) but i can't get through NT's login dialog box when i try to map that directory. No matter what login i insert it keeps refusing to connect. I've tried to run the diagnosis process (DIAGNOSIS.txt) step by step. Step 3 killed me ! It seems that 'smbclient - L MYSAMBASERVER' rejects the connection saying session request to MYSAMBASERVER failed. If you have any experience with SAMBA and encrypted passwords, please help. Thanks, Carlos. - CARLOS SANTOS (ICQ: 21537583) NETOSFERA: http://www.netosfera.pt Tel(Phone): (+351 53 276998) Fax: (+351 53 274255) Braga - Portugal
Re: minimum delay maximum throughout
Subject: minimum delay maximum throughout Date: Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 11:03:28AM +0300 In reply to:Halis Osman Erkan Quoting Halis Osman Erkan([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I want to learn more about minimum delay maximum throughput in ftp and telnet there would be a way to make settings to provide them. iphains TOS bit can do this ; i know ; But HOW? and whats the logic? Rgrds Halis Osman ERKAN Sophomore / Ege Unv. As th IPChains Howto doesn't cover that in detail, I can only suggest the you 'let the source be with you'. Get the ipchains source code and dig into it. Or contacr the author and ask him. HTH, YMMV, HAND -- COBOL programs are an exercise in Artificial Inelegance. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN/SAMBA/NT
Your Smaba passwords and your user passwords do no necessisarily match. Check out the smbpasswd command... On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Carlos Santos wrote: Hi, I'm trying to share my Linux home directory so that i can maintain it from my NT box. I've installed Samba 2.0 with encrypted passwords. I can see the samba server from NT (nethood) but i can't get through NT's login dialog box when i try to map that directory. No matter what login i insert it keeps refusing to connect. I've tried to run the diagnosis process (DIAGNOSIS.txt) step by step. Step 3 killed me ! It seems that 'smbclient - L MYSAMBASERVER' rejects the connection saying session request to MYSAMBASERVER failed. If you have any experience with SAMBA and encrypted passwords, please help. Thanks, Carlos. - CARLOS SANTOS (ICQ: 21537583) NETOSFERA: http://www.netosfera.pt Tel(Phone): (+351 53 276998) Fax: (+351 53 274255) Braga - Portugal -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null +---++ | Nate Duehr - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Support Amateur Radio Linux! | | Private Pilot, Telephony Engineer | Ham Callsign: N0NTZ | | UNIX Hack, Perl Hack, Tech-Freak | Grid Square: DM79 | | | May the Source be with you. | +---++ | HamRadio and Linux mailing lists available for interested parties: | |http://www.natetech.com/mailman/listinfo| ++
