Re: Problemas con LILO.
Si no me equivoco, estas poniendo el lilo en la 3ª particion del disco duro. Se me ocurren tres cosas: a) Pon el lilo en un disquete para comprobar que funciona como tu quieres, boot=/dev/fd0 Arranca en windows, luego en linux, y asegurate de que hace lo que tu quieres. Asi siempre podras arrancar desde el disquete correctamente. b) Mirar si poniendo hda3 como arrancable hace que funcione. Esto con el fdisk de linux tiene una opcion que marca las particiones como arrancables (bootable). c) Puedes probar a poner el lilo en el registro de arranque principal (MBR, Master Boot Record) en vez de en la particion 3. Creo que con poner boot=/dev/hda es suficiente. Si cascas algo en las pruebas siempre podras arrancar del disquete del paso a). ¡HAZLO ANTES! Saludos David DABICI O^O message=/root/inicio boot=/dev/hda3 root=/dev/hda3 compact install=/boot/boot.b prompt timeout=100 map=/boot/map vga=normal other=/dev/hda1 table=/dev/hda label=dos image=/vmlinuz label=linux read-only Mi particion de Linux está en hda3 y la de Windows, que es en la que quiero que arranque por defecto y que es la que está activa, está en hda1. Al arrancar el ordenador no aparece nada de LILO, ¿por qué puede ser? Me ha pasado otras veces y me ayudasteis a arreglarlo pero ahora creo que lo tengo todo igual que cuando lo hacía bien y sin embargo no funciona.
Re: Acentos en Netscape
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 06:22:51PM +0100, Han Solo wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 11:31:22AM +0100, Agustín Martín Domingo wrote: Pookie wrote: no me van los acentos con netscape en las X a pesar de que otras aplicaciones como StarOffice y editores si que me van... As adjunto un Xmodmap con el que podeis poner acentos con [AltGr]+[a]... y ademas las teclas numericas funcionan incluso sin el [BloqNum] activado. Esta autoexplicado... ;-) ¡¡¡Felices Fiestas!!! -- Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.1 slink) !/etc/X11/Xmodmap (Debian2.0, 2.1) ! ! ESTO ES UN ARCHIVO DE CONFIGURACION AUTODOCUMENTADO ! !Modificación del mapa de teclado en entorno gráfico X para: !Permitir acentos con ALTGr+a = á, ..., ALTGr+y = ü !Permitir ñ con ALTGr+n !Hacer que las teclas numéricas funcionen SIEMPRE como números (sin Num Lock) !Permitir ¿ con ALTGr+? en teclado americano (us) ! ! !COMANDOS RELACIONADOS CON TECLADO: ! xmodmap Ver mapa de modificadores actual (desde X) ! xmodmap -pk Ver mapa de caracteres actual (desde X) ! !ARCHIVOS RELACIONADOS CON TECLADO EN DEBIAN: ! /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xmodmap.stdMapa por defecto (us) ! /usr/share/xmodmap.es Modificador de mapa para español ! /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/es Lista de caracteres de teclado español ! /etc/X11/XF86Config (Section keyboard) Configuración de las X ! !RH5.0 Este archivo debe ser /etc/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap !RH5.0 Hay que añadir en el arranque de X: xmodmap /etc/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap ! ! ! !ACENTOS keycode 26 = e E eacute Eacute keycode 30 = u U uacute Uacute keycode 31 = i I iacute Iacute keycode 32 = o O oacute Oacute keycode 38 = a A aacute Aacute keycode 29 = y Y udiaeresis Udiaeresis ! !LA Ñ keycode 57 = n N ntilde Ntilde ! !TECLADO NUMERICO keycode 112 = slash keycode 63 = asterisk keycode 79 = 7 keycode 80 = 8 keycode 81 = 9 keycode 82 = minus keycode 83 = 4 keycode 84 = 5 keycode 85 = 6 keycode 86 = plus keycode 87 = 1 keycode 88 = 2 keycode 89 = 3 keycode 90 = 0 keycode 91 = period keycode 108 = Return ! !INICIO PREGUNTA EN TECLADO AMERICANO !keycode 61 = slash question questiondown questiondown !ACTIVO TECLA ALT DERECHA PARA ACENTOS ! LO ELIMINO DE mod1 clearmod1 add mod1= Alt_L ! LE ASIGNO Mode_switch clearmod3 keycode 113 = Mode_switch add mod3 = Mode_switch
Re: SPAM: Propuesta de solucion
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 12:29:58AM +0100, Alvaro Alea wrote: [...] BUENOS DIAS!!! Y entonces, va Manel Marin y dice ¿SPAM: Propuesta de solucion? Hola a todos ;-) Os voy a proponer una idea... - Los mensajes de los no suscritos reciben un amable e-mail explicandoles el tema del spam y que para hacer llegar su mensaje a la lista deben de volver a enviarlo poniendo como primera palabra en el subject una cadena llave que les proporcionamos (como al suscribirse) Ejemplo: [R56JGBx9] Consulta... Obviamente la cadena debe ser diferente cada vez... (o cada dia o cada semana) Que lo de la cadena llave fallara en cuanto el usuario no subscrito intente mantener una conversacion (thread, hilo o como se diga) con la lista, ya que el 2º mensajes ya no seran validos sin una llave. Tienes razón... :-( ¿Por otro lado, ¿es posible hacer eso con el programa que gestiona la lista? No lo se pero me parece poco probable... La solución tiene que ser más facil... Puede que no sea necesario una llave diferente, y baste con un texto fijo en el cuerpo del mensaje, por ejemplo: [USUARIO NO SUSCRITO A LA LISTA debian-user-spanish] VENTAJAS: 1) Es facil de implementar con procmail y formail. No se que programa usan para la lista pero no deberia ser dificil de hacer... 2) Todos los mensajes del hilo llegarán a la lista (si no borramos la linea) 3) Los suscritos sabemos que el usuario no esta suscrito y hay que enviarle copia a su e-mail No creo que ningún spamer se entretenga a poner esa linea en sus mensajes... (quedaria feo... para sus otras victimas ;-) Para hacerlo mas facil para el usuario novato se le podria devolver su mensaje asi: 8 [USUARIO NO SUSCRITO A LA LISTA debian-user-spanish] - La linea anterior es indispensable ya que no estas suscrito a esta lista. - Reenvia este mensaje a la lista para que sea publicado. - Esta medida es necesaria para evitar el correo no solicitado SPAM en la lista. (Por favor borra estas instrucciones, que en la lista ya las conocemos ;-) [MENSAJE] 8 ¿Que os parece? (he tenido que pensar un poco mas...X-) ¿Asi te gusta mas Antonio? ¡¡¡Felices Fiestas!!! -- Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.1 slink)
Re: SPAM: Propuesta de solucion
El domingo 26 de diciembre de 1999 a la(s) 11:25:28 +0100, Manel Marin contaba: Para hacerlo mas facil para el usuario novato se le podria devolver su mensaje asi: 8 [USUARIO NO SUSCRITO A LA LISTA debian-user-spanish] - La linea anterior es indispensable ya que no estas suscrito a esta lista. Pues yo veo más engorroso esto que hacer una suscripción una sola vez, que ya te queda hecha. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano In love with TuX - Linux 2.2.13Linux Registered User #87069
RE: Problemas con LILO.
Muchas gracias a todos (especialmente a David Charro Ripa) por vuestra ayuda. Tuve que poner la partición hda3 como arrancable para que me apareciese el LILO al principio. Yo creía que la partición que se tenía que poner como arrancable era en la que entraba por defecto, pero ya veo que no. Pues eso, que muchísimas gracias. Emilio. Si no me equivoco, estas poniendo el lilo en la 3ª particion del disco duro. Se me ocurren tres cosas: a) Pon el lilo en un disquete para comprobar que funciona como tu quieres, boot=/dev/fd0 Arranca en windows, luego en linux, y asegurate de que hace lo que tu quieres. Asi siempre podras arrancar desde el disquete correctamente. b) Mirar si poniendo hda3 como arrancable hace que funcione. Esto con el fdisk de linux tiene una opcion que marca las particiones como arrancables (bootable). c) Puedes probar a poner el lilo en el registro de arranque principal (MBR, Master Boot Record) en vez de en la particion 3. Creo que con poner boot=/dev/hda es suficiente. Si cascas algo en las pruebas siempre podras arrancar del disquete del paso a). ¡HAZLO ANTES!
copia de imagen de Debian
Normalmente consigo el paquete Debian a través de LA o de FTP, pero para staciones Sun (sparc) el tema no es tan sencillo. Ahora que dispongo de una grabadora de CDROM, he bajado una imagen de CDROM para sparc de un servidor ftp de Debian, un fichero de unos 500 Mbytes con extensión .iso. Ahora mi problema es el siguiente, este PC está en Windows y no tengo espacio para meter Linux (solo tengo metido el doslinux pero sin XWindows). Como programa duplicador en Windows tengo el Easy CD, pero no es capaz (o no lo he sabido configurar) de grabar la imagen que he bajado como imagen, solo me la graba como un fichero gordo de 500MB, es decir no me crea la estructura de ficheros, etc. En doslinux he instalado el cdrecord y cdwrite pero parece que estos programas (por lo que dice la ayuda) solo funcionan cuando la grabadora es SCSI (la mía es IDE). He intentado poner en la opción dev la unidad de CD-ROM y el programa se queja de que no es SCSI. Pero en doslinux la unidad de CDROM me la reconoce perfectamente. Existe algún otro método para grabar esta imagen en el CDROM con algún programa sencillo en Windows o en Linux. Me pregunto si con dd funcionaría diciendo que la longitud es de 2048 bytes, etc. En fin, prefiero que alguien me lo confirme antes de mandar a la basura varios CDROM en pruebas. Creo recordar que hace algún tiempo se habló de esto, pero como entonces no tenía grabadora pues borré los mensajes. Saludos y gracias por todo. Saludos
Re: copia de imagen de Debian
El lunes 27 de diciembre de 1999 a la(s) 14:04:58 +0100, Antonio Angel Sanz Arróspide contaba: En doslinux he instalado el cdrecord y cdwrite pero parece que estos programas (por lo que dice la ayuda) solo funcionan cuando la grabadora es SCSI (la mía es IDE). He intentado poner en la opción dev la unidad de CD-ROM y el programa se queja de que no es SCSI. Exactamente. Tienes que compilar el núcleo con emulación SCSI para que la grabadora se le presente a los programas como si fuera SCSI. Pone cómo hacerlo en el CD-Writing-HOWTO creo. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano In love with TuX - Linux 2.2.13Linux Registered User #87069
Adaptador RDSI a 128Kb
Hola:
Tenemos un adaptador externo RDSI ZyXEL Omni TA128 y una conexión
RDSI con CTV a 128Kb. Hemos puesto una tarjeta serie de alta
velocidad y hemos configurado 0setserial añadiendo la linea:
${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS2 uart 16550A port 0x3E8 irq 5 ${STD_FLAGS}
spd_vhi
Luego hemos configurado la conexión ppp con pppconfig.
La conexión se realiza, pero solo a 64Kb (parece). Y después de estar
funcionando un rato se corrompe y no va ni el ping. ¿como puedo
comprobar la velocidad de la conexión?, ¿alguien sabe como afinar
esto para que vaya de categoria?.
Creo que hemos seguido los pasos adecuados, pero no estoy seguro,
alguien nos puede ayudar.
Saludos y Feliz 2000.
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] me cuelgan el modem desde afuera
Hola! Lo de que acepte el módem comandos del otro lado de la linea podría ser ni mas ni menos que una 'feature' (desagradable si tal). En mi modem por ejemplo hay unos determinados comandos para remotamente cambiar su configuración o controlar (a través de una password) el que se pueda hacer. -- Saudos: ose[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vigo/Galicia/España) http://pagina.de/xmanoel/ http://w3.to/mikkeli/ 12/26 (12/26/1865) Coffee percolator patented (James H. Nason, Franklin, MA). 12/26 (12/26/1907) Cab Calloway, singer.
Re: Mas sobre versiones del kernel
At 11:57 AM 1999-12-24 +0100, Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren wrote: Salu2 Yo también tengo algunas dudas sobre las versiones del kernel y sus nombres. Hasrta hace unas semanas creía que SLINK era el kernel 2.2.x mientras HAMM era el kernel 2.0.x, pero al bajarme el último kernel estable del site DEBIAN y ejecutarlo me sale en los mensajes de inicialización que es el 2.0.38. Así que me voy al correspondiente directorio y me leo el README para ver si metí la pata al seleccionar el directorio ../stable y para mi sorprsa descubro que el KERNEL 2.0.38 es el SLINK; a partir de ese momento ya no entiendo nada. Y eso que no me he parado a ver qué kernel es el POTATO. Sencillamente el kernel 2.2.0 no estuvo a tiempo para salir junto a slink, así que tocó usar el 2.0.36. Potato viene con el 2.2.x. Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] A proud Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 User.
Re: Problemas con LILO.
El Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 12:39:00AM +0100, EMILIO HERNÁNDEZ MARTÍN dijo: Hola a todos. Feliz Navidad y próspero año nuevo, antes de nada. Igualmente. Os escribo para preguntar qué es lo que tengo mal en mi LILO para que no me aparezca al arrancar el ordenador. Mi fichero lilo.conf es: boot=/dev/hda3 ... Mi particion de Linux está en hda3 y la de Windows, que es en la que quiero que arranque por defecto y que es la que está activa, está en hda1. Tienes instalado lilo en el sector de arranque de la tercera particio´n y tienes activa la 1º, el MBR que tienes debe ser el que instalo´ windows, el cual busca la particio´n activa y la arranca, es decir encuentra la primera activada y arranca windows directamente. Para que te salga lilo has de activar la tercera (hda3), en tal caso el mbr arracara´ a lilo y podras elegir la que quieras. Otra solucio´n es escribir lilo en el MBR: boot=/dev/hda Pero esto no es buena idea ya que si tienes que reinstalar windows ( ¿ lo cual es imposible verdad ? ;-) ) perderas lilo, y el arranque de linux. Saludos y feliz a todo el personal. Pd: Tampoco lo instales en la particio´n de windows, o perderas todos los ficheros. -- ______ _ ___ / /\ / // __// /\ / /_/_/ // /\ / / / / // /_/___ / /_/__ /_ /\__/_ /////\ \__\/ \__\\\\\/ Powered by Debian GNU/linux Kernel 2.2.13 + ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SPAM: Propuesta de solucion
On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 10:18:57AM +0100, Hue-Bond wrote: [USUARIO NO SUSCRITO A LA LISTA debian-user-spanish] - La linea anterior es indispensable ya que no estas suscrito a esta lista. Pues yo veo más engorroso esto que hacer una suscripción una sola vez, que ya te queda hecha. Este no es el problema en absoluto (desde mi punto de vista). Para mi el problema es cuando alguien quiere consultar algo a debian-user-spanish y NO quiere suscribirse porque no quiere recibir 30 mails cada día. De ese modo, tiene que suscribirse, postear, desuscribirse e imagino que seguir el thread desde la web de lists.debian.org. Alguien ha hablado con el administrador de las listas? Alguien le ha comentado algo sobre este thread? Me ofrezco, si quereis, a escribirle, para ver como lo ve el y como lo enfocaría el. Este problema debe estar en muchas otras listas de debian y probablemente en alguna ya hayan tomado medidas al respecto. Jordi
Re: Teclado Brasileiro na Instalação
Andre Leao Macedo escreveu: Olá, Na minha opinião, o melhor é Brasileiro (teclado padrão EUA) Ok sugestão anotada! --- gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil -- http://www.mailbr.com.br Estamos concorrendo ao IBEST - Serviços On-Line Acesse http://ibest.mailbr.com.br e Vote!
Re: Projeto de Lei
Olá, Concordo com você que o projeto não é perfeito. Nada pode ser feito de uma cajadada só. Mas é um passo interessante na discussão do tema. O que temos que fazer é apoiar a idéia e ajudar da forma que pudermos. Tentei contactar o deputado, mas o link para o seu mail não funcionou (user unknown). Vou pesquisar depois o mail correto e se descobrir envio para a lista. Quem tiver sugestões, envie para ele também. Um abraço, André Leão Macedo -- /--\ | History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once | | they have exhausted all other alternatives.| |-- Abba Eban | +--+ | Andre Leao Macedo | http://www.bhnet.com.br/~andremac/ | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Public Key in Home Page| \--/
Re: Projeto de Lei
Andre Leao Macedo wrote: Concordo com você que o projeto não é perfeito. Nada pode ser feito de uma cajadada só. Mas é um passo interessante na discussão do tema. O que temos que fazer é apoiar a idéia e ajudar da forma que pudermos. Tentei contactar o deputado, mas o link para o seu mail não funcionou (user unknown). Vou pesquisar depois o mail correto e se descobrir envio para a lista. Quem tiver sugestões, envie para ele também. Veja bem, não disse que não era perfeito. Disse que era completamente equivocado. A minha idéia não é melhorar o projeto, mas ignorá-lo completamente e continuar o trabalho de melhoria dos programas livres e educação dos usuários, assim como combate aos sistemas proprietários e sua penetração no governo. Já existem as leis contra os sistemas proprietários, muito mais modestas que o projeto de lei do Walter Pinheiro, mas mesmo modestas não são cumpridas. Façamos cumprir o que já existe antes de partir para coisas mais grandiosas. Aliás essa lei seria letra morta se não tiver o apoio integral de todos os Serpros, Prodams e similares do Brasil. -- /\ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra \ / Brasil X http://www.terravista.pt./Enseada/1989/index.html / \ Campanha da fita ASCII - contra o correio eletrônico HTML
Re: MMSN842 - Suporte no Linux
Bom dia, eu andei fazendo um arquivo em que relaciono todos ( ou quase ) modelos de placas de som/fax para maquinas Infoway ( nem a AZTECH nem a Itautec dao suporte ). Nao tenho mais no meu micro, mas vc encontra uma copia em http://linux.brasileiro.net/~csena/diversos/ . Se nao me engano, o arquivo chama soundsofglory.doc ( ou zip). Nao estou online agora p checar; se tiver dificuldades, email me. Eu nao ligo muiot p este negocio de som, mas me recordo q o lance era configurar como sound blaster usando os valores default de I/O e IRQ que cada maquina Infoway usa. Lembrando q nao tive condicoes de testar cada modelo. Se tiver problemas posso arrumar os dados de I/O e IRQ para o modelo especifico de Infoway. t+ Clovis Sena Gleydson Mazioli da Silva wrote: Oi, Vocês sabem se é possível incluir o suporte do Linux a placa de som MMSN842 (AT3100)? Este é um modelo usado no Infoway da Itautec e possui entradas para rádio, TV, etc, e também tem o Fax-Modem embutido com suporte a viva voz.
Re: Teclado Brasileiro na Instalação
E pq nao uma coisa mais simples como pt-br ou mesmo abnt2 as vezes eu acho q vcs complicam as coisas de proposito, nao eh nao? bota ai qq nome e pronto! Escolha o que fizer mais sentido p vc. Nao da p ficar esperando q todo mundo concorde em tudo, vc deve fazer as coisas e seguir em frente. t+ Clovis Sena Vinicius De Mario wrote: bom, como a maioria dos (futuros) usuarios estah habituada com o Windows ... a primeira descricao eh a mais correta e proxima a EUA - internacional, como eh usado no Ruindows Abracos Vinicius Gleydson Mazioli da Silva wrote: Estou em dúvidas sobre qual a descrição do teclado brasileiro utilizar na instalação, 4 participantes da lista sugeriram uma descrição diferente: Brasileiro (teclado padrão internacional) Brasileiro (teclado padrão US) Brasileiro (teclado padrão EUA) Brasileiro (Estados Unidos com acentos) Qual a opinião de vocês? qual soa melhor? Vocês decidem! :-) --- gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _
Teclado Brasileiro na Instalação
De: Clovis Sena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E pq nao uma coisa mais simples como pt-br ou mesmo abnt2 as vezes Porque essas são abreviações técnicas que pouquíssimas pessoas entendem. eu acho q vcs complicam as coisas de proposito, nao eh nao? bota ai qq nome e pronto! Escolha o que fizer mais sentido p vc. Nao da p ficar esperando q todo mundo concorde em tudo, vc deve fazer as coisas e seguir em frente. Porque Debian é uma democracia, não uma ditadura; um grupo de usuários e desenvolvedores, não uma empresa comercial; e porque n cabeças pensam melhor que uma. Claro que havendo discordâncias irreconciliáveis o mantenedor do pacote toma as decisões e segue em frente, mas não há porque não buscar consenso primeiro. -- /\Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra \ /Amdocs Brasil Ltda X http://www.terravista.pt./Enseada/1989/index.html / \Campanha fita ASCII, contra correio HTML
Re: Projeto de Lei
Olá, Concordo com você que o projeto não é perfeito. Nada pode ser feito de uma cajadada só. Mas é um passo interessante na discussão do tema. O que temos que fazer é apoiar a idéia e ajudar da forma que pudermos. Tentei contactar o deputado, mas o link para o seu mail não funcionou (user unknown). Vou pesquisar depois o mail correto e se descobrir envio para a lista. Quem tiver sugestões, envie para ele também. Outro detalhe que levanto é que a maioria das institiuções públicas usam software da Microsoft e pior PIRATEADO! (diria uns 95%) Posso dizer isto porque já trabalhei por 2 anos em uma, e o pessoal da instalação nem ligam para isto e se preocupam porque NÃO HÁ FISCALIZAÇÃO. Mas parece que a Microsoft também não liga para isto porque sabe que o seu sistema está de qualquer forma dominando o mercado, seja regularmente ou não. Se o Walter Pinheiro propusesse uma lei sobre o aperto na fiscalização dos softwares piratas em instituições e órgãos públicos, com certeza isto forçaria a retirada dos Softwares piratas das máquinas, e caso necessitassem fazer uma instalação para colocar os sistemas em funcionamento, o pessoal esbarraria na lei anterior sobre preferência aos softwares gratuitos e levaria obrigatóriamente a uma pesquisa sobre o Linux e seus pontos fortes. --- gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil -- http://www.mailbr.com.br Estamos concorrendo ao IBEST - Serviços On-Line Acesse http://ibest.mailbr.com.br e Vote!
Re: Teclado Brasileiro na Instalação
Clovis Senna escreveu: E pq nao uma coisa mais simples como pt-br ou mesmo abnt2 as vezes eu acho q vcs complicam as coisas de proposito, nao eh nao? bota ai qq nome e pronto! Escolha o que fizer mais sentido p vc. Nao da p ficar esperando q todo mundo concorde em tudo, vc deve fazer as coisas e seguir em frente. Faço a parte dos trabalhos de desenvolvimento e tradução desta forma e procuro sempre seguir os padrões que já conheço, mas outros participantes da lista enviaram outras sugestões e preferi que todos participassem desta decisão. Estou diretamente ligado nos esforços de tradução e desenvolvimento da Debian, mas isto não quer dizer que somente eu devo tomar as decisões. O desenvolvimento Debian segue o modelo cooperativo, qualquer participante da lista pode expor suas idéias, críticas, sugestões, revisar documentos já traduzidos, etc. As vezes uma escolha feita por mim ou outro desenvolvedor não é muito compreensível pelo usuário comum. A participação de todos neste processo é necessária, desta forma todos os usuários Brasileiros e Portugueses podem se beneficicar das decisões e atitudes tomadas aqui. Debian é isto, desenvolvimento, sincronismo, cooperação, qualidade e software livre. --- gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil -- http://www.mailbr.com.br Estamos concorrendo ao IBEST - Serviços On-Line Acesse http://ibest.mailbr.com.br e Vote!
Re: MMSN842 - Suporte no Linux
Clovis Sena escreveu: Bom dia, Bom dia, eu andei fazendo um arquivo em que relaciono todos ( ou quase ) modelos de placas de som/fax para maquinas Infoway ( nem a AZTECH nem a Itautec dao suporte ). Nao tenho mais no meu micro, mas vc encontra uma copia em http://linux.brasileiro.net/~csena/diversos/ . Se nao me engano, o arquivo chama soundsofglory.doc ( ou zip). Nao estou online agora p checar; se tiver dificuldades, email me. Eu nao ligo muiot p este negocio de som, mas me recordo q o lance era configurar como sound blaster usando os valores default de I/O e IRQ que cada maquina Infoway usa. Li o documento que indicou e verifiquei que os padrões desta placa são bem diferentes dos outros tipos de hardwares existentes. Alguns valores que constam não conferem com o modelo, por exemplo o Modem, no documento consta que está configurado por padrão para io=0x3e8 (com3) irq=11, já a placa o desabilita por padrão. O som agora está funcionando corretamente, alterei a porta de impressora para 278 (irq 5) liberando a irq 7 e desta forma resolvi o conflito com a placa de som. Agora o problema é o modem... a inicialização do Linux a partir do DOS faz o modem funcionar pois posso configurar a placa a partir do hwconf no DOS e usar um loadlin para inicializar o Linux com as placas já configuradas. Fiz uma configuração no autoexec.bat e config.sys no DOS usando configurações múltiplas através de menus e dispensando a utilização do Lilo e o processo ficou alternativo e interessante. O usuário desta forma pode escolher o sistema que será utilizado, caso seja o Linux, toda a inicialização é feita normalmente (inclusive a da placa) e ao checar a opção escolhida, o sistema executa o loadlin e carrega o sistema. Lembrando q nao tive condicoes de testar cada modelo. Se tiver problemas posso arrumar os dados de I/O e IRQ para o modelo especifico de Infoway. O maior problema agora é o software de configuração para Linux. Não gosto muito de recorrer ao loadlin porque já tive problemas com alguns dispositivos e é mais difícil passar parâmetros ao kernel, mas vejo que isto atualmente não é possível fazer a inicialização diretamente porque o fabricante não oferece o suporte do programa hwset no Linux. Seu documento foi muito útil Clovis. Vou adota-lo com referência para configuração de placas dos modelos Inforway Itautec. Obrigado! -- gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil -- http://www.mailbr.com.br Estamos concorrendo ao IBEST - Serviços On-Line Acesse http://ibest.mailbr.com.br e Vote!
Superexposição linux
Alias, costumo ver revistas fora da área de informática sobre Bill Gates Microsoft, Windows, bla, bla, bla, mas nada sobre o movimento de desenvolvimento mundial do Linux que é um fato histórico e não vem obtendo devida atenção pela mídia. Nos EUA o GNU/Linux já está quase superexposto... é que a M$ domina mais a nossa imprensa que a de seu próprio país. Desculpem contrariar, mas acho que não é bem por aí. Linux é um excelente sistema operacional, assim como FreeBSD e OpenBSD e outros BSDs. Por melhor que seja um produto, somente isto não o faz aparecer na mídia, ainda mais esta nossa maravilhosa mídia (ou seria mérdia?) que só segue o cheiro do dinheiro e do sensacionalismo barato. Se fosse pela qualidade, o Netware, que é muito melhor que o Win TNT como servidor de arquivos, ainda estaria vendendo como água. E até a revista Época falou de Linux... O que eu acho que acontece é que a própria M$ financiou esta propaganda. Pq? Pelo problema do processo por monopólio. Como não existe uma empresa Linux, fica difícil conseguir uma união e atacar diretamente a M$. Para quem discorda, veja o exemplo da padronização do file system. E quanto ao processo de boot nas diversas distribuições... O que eu acho que M$ não esperava era a volta por cima que o Linux deu, graças a várias coisas como a liberação do Star Office para uso comercial. []'s +--+---+-+ | Helio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Powered | | http://www.lcmi.ufsc.br/~helio | http://www.engnux.ufsc.br | by| | http://www.engnux.ufsc.br/~helio | http://www.aikido.ufsc.br | FreeBSD | +--+---+-+ Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vaccuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vaccuum tubes and perhaps weigh 1 1/2 tons. -- Popular Mechanics, March 1949
Re: Projeto de Lei
Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra writes: Veja bem, não disse que não era perfeito. Disse que era completamente equivocado. A minha idéia não é melhorar o projeto, mas ignorá-lo completamente e continuar o trabalho de melhoria dos programas livres e educação dos usuários, assim como combate aos sistemas proprietários e sua penetração no governo. Acho que isso não chegou na lista. Você poderia fazer um forward? Já existem as leis contra os sistemas proprietários, muito mais Que leis?! bye Rafael Caetano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin and DidkOnChip
c:\loadlin\loadlin c:\linux root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=3 and got the message not an Image file. Loadlin works by loading a copy of the Linux kernel into RAM and then transferring control to it. It needs a copy of the kernel to work with. Did you copy your kernel to the c: drive and name it linux? Otherwise it won't work. Your kernel might be named vmlinuz or zImage or bzImage. It depends. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum http://dm.net
Ethernet drivers...
Hi! I just bought a D-Link DE-220PCT ethernet card for my linux box. It's a 10mpbs ISA card, so I figured it would work. I need to know what drivers/modules I need to install during the debian installation for it. Also, I need to know what all I need to have installed and setup to be able to network my Linux box with my Win98 box. Thanks a lot, Bye!
Re: Printer configuration
Robert L. Harris wrote: Ok, Redhat has a neat little control panel that makes installing printers and filters very easy. Does debian have anything comparable or do I need to learn the printcap for lprng? You can use magicfilter to set up your printer. It's not like the printtool in Red Hat, but it works. kometboy
Re: Undeletable File Causing Massive Headaches
On 26/12/99 Eliot Landrum wrote: Strangely enough though, lsattr is just sitting here ... I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I'll let it sit for 30 min to make sure it has enough time to do whatever it is it is doing. lsattr should not take that long, its just as fast as ls, sounds like something is really wrong there... Ethan
Re: is kernel 2.0.38 broken?
Pollywog wrote: I thought I read on this list that there was a problem with the last 2.0.x kernel. Is that true? I still have Slink on my laptop, so I am not ready for a 2.2.x kernel and I am using 2.0.36. thanks -- Andrew - GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 *we all live downstream* -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I had a problem with the 2.0.38 kernel swapping my two SCSI drives (sda was now sdb and sdb was now sda). I pulled the kernel off of the newest install/rescue disk and the drives went back to their original designation. Only problem I have had. -- Gregg Berkholtz 5 days 7 hours 0 minutes --- The time is near
Re: Loadlin and DidkOnChip
At 07:07 PM 12/26/99 -0500, Carl Fink wrote: c:\loadlin\loadlin c:\linux root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=3 and got the message not an Image file. Did you copy your kernel to the c: drive and name it linux? Otherwise it won't work. I am using the Linux Router Project (http://www.linuxrouter.org/) kernel which is called linux. Since LRP is based on Debian, I thouht I should seek help here too. When I boot linux off diskette everything works fine. It is only when I copy it to DiskOnChip (DOC) and use loadlin that I run into trouble.
[crash]
Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Karl When XEmacs starts, it says:
Karl /usr/local/src/XEmacs/xemacs-21.2/src/xemacs: Symbol `toggleClassRec'
has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
Karl /usr/local/src/XEmacs/xemacs-21.2/src/xemacs: Symbol `labelClassRec'
has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
Known problem, grep for `toggleClassRec' in the xemacs-beta archvies.
Karl Hey, in /etc/ld.so.conf, the Xaw3d lib is listed FIRST, at
Karl the top of the file. I bet that's what's wrong. Do yous
Karl think so?
Yes and no. This is what is supposed to happen. libXaw3d is a
drop-in replacement for libXaw. If you only use the public
interface, no problem. If you subclass, and thus must use the private
interfaces, you get hosed. I don't see any way around it given the
way the Xaw3d library was designed; I think you are going to get stuck
with multiple versions of XEmacs, one for each version of the fancy
widgets. (You might be able to avoid multiple XEmacs packages by
dynamically detecting the libraries and loading XEmacs-Xaw*-shim.so
modules, but I don't know how to do that, if it is possible.)
It is obviously intended to be used so that apps which do no
subclassing get 3D widgets by default. Such apps will not be broken
no matter which link-compatible Xaw3d is used. Probably you, as
Debian maintainer for XEmacs, are expected to use xaw-wrappers to
intervene with ld.so, since XEmacs _does_ do subclassing.
(Disclaimer: I'm just guessing based on the name xaw-wrappers.)
Karl Should I report this as a bug against the Debian
Karl Xaw3d package? I think that's the correct course of action
Karl here. I'm starting to think I ought not send this after
Karl all...
Actually, this is a well-known problem. Reviewing the last couple of
months' traffic will show that this came up a lot. Some people do
think it's a Debian design bug, I have no opinion.
As of a few days ago, this worked properly for me with the
then-current Debian potato and the then-current XEmacs CVS checkout.
The current plan (as I understand it, either read the autoconf source
for ./configure or ask Daniel Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] for accurate
info) is to look for Xaw{3d,NeXt,xpm,...}, if found, link for them
explicitly (my ld line says -lXaw3d). It looks to me like in your
case it found them but did not link explicitly, so you may not have
the most recent XEmacs.
The patches to ./configure.in are only about 10 days old; make sure
everything is current, do a make clean (if you have real cojones, do a
make distclean; I don't think XEmacs uses too much auto* technology,
so probably everything will get regenerated even if you don't have
automake etc).
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Re: Ethernet drivers...
At 07:19 PM 12/26/99 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I just bought a D-Link DE-220PCT ethernet card for my linux box. It's a 10mpbs ISA card, so I figured it would work. I need to know what drivers/modules I need to install during the debian installation for it. Also, I need to know what all I need to have installed and setup to be able to network my Linux box with my Win98 box. Thanks a lot, Bye! ne2000. I found it worked best (easier setup) in non-PNP mode
Re: is kernel 2.0.38 broken?
there is a locally exploitable command that will cause 2.0.36 and .38 (probably others too) to crash, usign ping -R i believe ..see bugtraq for details nate On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Pollywog wrote: pollyw I thought I read on this list that there was a problem with the last 2.0.x pollyw kernel. Is that true? I still have Slink on my laptop, so I am not ready for pollyw a 2.2.x kernel and I am using 2.0.36. pollyw pollyw thanks pollyw pollyw -- pollyw Andrew pollyw pollyw - pollyw GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 pollyw *we all live downstream* pollyw pollyw pollyw -- pollyw Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pollyw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 6:37pm up 129 days, 6:30, 2 users, load average: 1.77, 1.64, 1.53
[Off topic] Thanks.
I've been a part of this list on and off for the better part of the year. I've participated in helping answer questions when I could. I like the way this community works. I would like to thank all those people who have given me an idea about how little I know about computers. My father was having a problem with his computer. I posted the problem to a number of 'ask for computer advice places on the net.' The two answers I got: Upgrade to Windows 98. and Reinstall the printer driver. By the time I got to my fathers place he had decided on using a different program. Hope I didn't offend anyone by posting this. kent
Re: installing Potato via ppp
As always, with the unstable version (potato), you're taking a risk installing it that on the day you decide to upgrade, any of the packages might be very broken. As of a few weeks ago, there was a boot-floppies for potato. I used it to install a machine and they worked with a couple of bugs, which were already in the Bug Tracking System before I got there to put them in. :) But they did work... then. I don't know if they're up-to-date right now, though. There's also been some discussion on debian-cd recently about potato CD-ROM images, but they sound like they're still quite unstable from the discussions there. Perhaps someone can correct me if any of this is incorrect. To upgrade a slink system with a working internet connection to potato is relatively easy: First off, make sure you're familiar with dselect, apt, and dpkg somewhat... this information can be confusing as all get-out if you're new to Debian's package system and haven't done any of this. Make sure that dselect is using apt or if you're just using apt-get for packages that it's all working properly with slink first... In other words, what I'm saying is make sure your APT is working properly before you do any of this! Then: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change the lines that start with deb to have the paths for potato instead of slink. One of mine that hasn't been edited yet to go to my favorite mirror site yet, is below. (I made sure to throw the plug in there for using the mirrors... everyone uses the main servers, and there are plenty of close/fast mirrors out there for all to use!) (BY THE WAY, kudos to the netselect package maintainer... very useful little proggie to find a nearby/quick mirror site. Folks, try it out!) deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free deb http://pandora.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free ***NOTE: The directory structure of the archives changes slightly between slink and potato. Okay now as root run : apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade I've done this probably ten times or more. Sometimes it works properly, sometimes downloads fail and all that stuff. If you have a really slow net connection, it can be quite a long time for this to finish... in the order of, set it up and let it run overnight. Of course, if a download fails or other error messages come up, you may need to be there at the console to start it up again. To recover from most problems just re-run the apt-get dist-upgrade again. In one case, I could tell that the installation scripts were just plain being run out of order due to a failed download of one of the packages on a machine, a re-run of the apt-get took care of it, as it went out and got that file (finally) and finished up the job. It's a pretty resiliant tool. Hopefully this helps, feel free to ask questions along the way if you're confused, and remember there's no guarantee of a working system after you upgrade to unstable... :) It's been broken before, it'll be broken again! But I still enjoy it more than slink... Nate, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 04:26:51AM -, Pollywog wrote: Is there a way to install Potato via ppp when I have only a slink CD and the base floppies for slink? Can I download some Potato base floppy images? thanks -- Andrew - GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 *we all live downstream* -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: installing Potato via ppp
Is there a way to install Potato via ppp when I have only a slink CD and the base floppies for slink? Can I download some Potato base floppy images? If you have slink installed and you insists on downloading then apt is probably the way to go. The current set of base floppies are in http://www.debian.org/~aph/boot-floppies/2.1.12-19991209/
ntp: Some log files do not get gziped or rotated
Package: ntp Version: 4.0.98h-1 Severity: normal Am I right that some log files of the ntp package do not get gziped or rotated? Is it done on purpose? [09:36:44 /tmp]$ ls -l /var/log/ntpstats/ total 277 -rw-r--r--2 root adm 1680 Dec 27 09:22 loopstats -rw-r--r--1 root adm 4429 Dec 19 01:56 loopstats.19991218 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 12729 Dec 20 01:07 loopstats.19991219 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 12021 Dec 21 01:57 loopstats.19991220 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 11702 Dec 22 01:54 loopstats.19991221 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 10114 Dec 23 00:46 loopstats.19991222 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 5189 Dec 24 01:41 loopstats.19991223 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 5245 Dec 25 01:50 loopstats.19991224 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 4843 Dec 26 01:53 loopstats.19991225 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 16633 Dec 27 01:59 loopstats.19991226 -rw-r--r--2 root adm 1680 Dec 27 09:22 loopstats.19991227 -rw-r--r--2 root adm 2174 Dec 27 09:22 peerstats -rw-r--r--1 root adm 17584 Dec 19 01:56 peerstats.19991218 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 21078 Dec 20 01:59 peerstats.19991219 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 29224 Dec 21 01:57 peerstats.19991220 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 20378 Dec 22 01:54 peerstats.19991221 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 24478 Dec 23 01:59 peerstats.19991222 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 9545 Dec 24 01:58 peerstats.19991223 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 9278 Dec 25 01:50 peerstats.19991224 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 11977 Dec 26 01:53 peerstats.19991225 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 29557 Dec 27 01:59 peerstats.19991226 -rw-r--r--2 root adm 2174 Dec 27 09:22 peerstats.19991227 [09:36:53 /tmp]$ Contrary to those files, some other log files of the ntp package are getting gzipped (and probably rotated as well): [09:38:05 /tmp]$ ls -l /var/log/ntpd* -rw-r--r--1 root adm 906 Dec 27 00:54 /var/log/ntpd -rw-r--r--1 root adm 3160 Dec 26 08:51 /var/log/ntpd.0 -rw-r--r--1 root adm 628 Dec 19 07:46 /var/log/ntpd.1.gz [09:38:09 /tmp]$ - -- System Information Debian Release: potato Kernel Version: Linux rakefet 2.2.13 #1 Sat Nov 20 12:44:19 EST 1999 i586 unknown Versions of the packages ntp depends on: ii libc6 2.1.2-10 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and timezone
Re: x-window-manager
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 08:55:30PM +0100, Francesco Tapparo wrote:
I maintain SCWM, a guile-powered window manager. An user asked me to add a
Provides: x-window-manager, but I cannot find this virtual package in the
virtual package list, neither in the policy (I have debian-policy 3.1.1.1).
Is this an obsoleted virtual-package, or a new one (not integrated in the
policy, yet).
Should I add this Provides?
You should. Look at the archives of the mailing
list debian-x, and please subscribe.
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Re: Unidentified subject!
HITMAN wrote: Hello Dear DEBIAN team, i want to ask you from where i can download your ISO file [the newest ver. of DEBIAN linux] :))) Check http://cdimage.debian.org/ Alex. -- Alexandre Fornieles | F-40150 Hossegor ICQ : 1519880 | Debian GNU/Linux 2.2.13 i686 - Software is like sex : It's better when it's Free !
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running potato on my other machine, but I want to upgrade my laptop from Slink to Potato. If I understand correctly, you had to install a whole new Potato system from scratch. That is exactly what I want to avoid; I want to upgrade the system I have now. I did the upgrade some time ago. If I remember rightly I upgraded to the 2.2.x kernel first and made the recommended upgrades to other parts of the system. I then had a Slink system running 2.2.x. I then used apt-get to install a package I knew needed libc6 2.1 which got my Slink box to the libc6 2.1 level. Everything appeared to work correctly, so a few days later I did apt-get dist-upgrade and got a smooth upgrade to Potato, where I am now. The step-by-step approach worked well for me. I do a weekly apt-get upgrade (using unstable, of course) to keep my system current and have rarely had a problem. A few minor things which have been reported in this list, but nothing as major as my system refusing to boot into Linux, or X not running etc.. -- Phillip Deackes Debian Linux (Potato)
Re: Restarting Daemons on package install/upgrade.
On Fri, Dec 24, 1999 at 03:59:46PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I sometimes wish we could settle on some of these key technologies, like the two rc schemes, and inetd versus xinetd. It would make a lot of things similar. Imagine if we had two menu systems. Similar confusion happens with the documentation systems. I disagree, I think we should settle on an interface that allows multiple implementations. Settling on the sysv init.d would be a tie us to something many people despise with a passion. It would make it hard to ever switch to anything more flexible. Seems reasonable. We need a common interface, anyway. There seem to be a lot of inetd versus xinetd bugs at times, and perhaps sysvinit versus filerc too. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quake in Germany - not illegal?
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 02:21:03AM +0100, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote: On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 01:17:19AM +0100, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote: Quake is indexed in Germany, not banned. This means it's only allowed to sell it to adults and advertising is prohibited. Just saw this on a web page. It's URL is (for who is interested) http://www.inside3d.com/qip So maybe it isn't a problem to have quake in the archive after all... Filip This is exactly what i thought. No real censorship, only ``children-protection'' BTW: what is exact definition of this law. If its like : `you cant sell it to minors' then we can give it to minors for free (ftp access is free) and piss at *.gov.de Else, mirrorers will have to add disclaimer : `You have to be 18 to download some of this software bla bla bla bla' And what with Brazil ? Is there full ban or only ``children-protection'' ? From what I've seen in the news it is full ban, they also banned mortal kombat, well, hundreds of thousands of versions of mortal kombat were sold (and copied) for years before this ban. It only makes things look more stupid :/ -- Eduardo Marcel Maçan[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get -f install fails
I have a slink/potato hybrid. Also, /etc/apt/sources.list is pointing at the http://www.us.debian.org/debian potato ... unstable distribution, I did an apt-get update, followed by apt-get -f install. Seven other packages installed (including g++ and binutils), but it failed on xpm4g-dev. I ran apt-get -f install again to capture: eggplant# apt-get -f install Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: xpm4g-dev 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 222 not upgraded. 8 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/100.0kB of archives. After unpacking 41.0kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y E: Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap What exactly does the error mean, and why won't xpm4g-dev install even tho it was apt that told me I needed it? TIA -Paul Title: orbitcpp-list Subscribers orbitcpp-list Subscribers Click on your address to visit your subscription options page.(Parenthesized entries have list delivery disabled.) 12 Non-digested Members of orbitcpp-list: 5 Digested Members of orbitcpp-list: ak at ixion.net archiver at db.geocrawler.com bhaddow at orbism.com kb9mnx at fourway.net konrad at pelimbert.tssc.univie.ac.at lipowski at comarch.pl mcb54 at columbia.edu mgg at isotek.co.uk philipd at orbitcpp.freeserve.co.uk poole at graviton.subatomic.org rgarcia4 at darwin.helios.nd.edu rhartley at ics.com al at quanta.demon.co.uk arifk at concentricsolutions.com mrumpf at yahoo.com paul at biciunas.com puresim at hanmail.net orbitcpp-list list run by [EMAIL PROTECTED] v 1.1
Re: Quake in Germany - not illegal?
Quake is indexed in Germany, not banned. This means it's only allowed to sell it to adults and advertising is prohibited. I just looked a bit around about the BPjS which decide if a game becomes indexed or not. If a game is on the index you are not allowed to Well, IIRC we don't ship the game at all, we only ship the engine. Without the 200MB data from the original CD (that you have to bye on some legal way) it is completetely useless. So do we have problems at all ? Ciao Christian bye, -christian- -- Linux - the choice of the GNU generation. Join the Debian Project http://www.debian.org Christian Hammers * Oberer Heidweg 35 * D-52477 Alsdorf * Tel: 02404-25624 50 3C 52 26 3E 52 E7 20 D2 A1 F5 16 C4 C9 D4 D3 1024/925BCB55 1997/11/01 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quake in Germany - not illegal?
On 27 Dec 1999 19:33:37 +0800, Christian Hammers wrote: So do we have problems at all ? No. There is no violent content *at all* without the WAD files (or whatever they're called for Quake.) -- Sign the EU petition against SPAM: L I N U X .~. http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: Athlon problems?
there are no big problems just install debian using the inestable version (kernel 2.2.12) evrything will be all rigth :-))
Debian2.1r4
Where can one obtain Debian 2.1r4 on CD-ROM? Many Thanks, Frank Knopf
Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL]
John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Until that happens, I stand by the fact that xemacsXX depends on X in all extant cases. Being linked with a library is FAR different that requiring the X Window System (X). The difference is not hard to notice and I am surprised that you have missed it. If you tell me how to find out if package foo requires X save by the xlib6g dependency, I'll gladly concede the point. Good luck trying... Perhaps -- shock horror -- you might actually *boggle* READ THE DOCUMENTATION?! Furthermore, your logic quoted below is extremely faulty; xterm has no non-X mode; XEmacs does. Oops, looks like you have a flaw. Next thing I know you'll be claiming mc depends on GNOME and ls on Linux! Furthermore nothing. The only fault of logic here is your failure to address all bases for the analogy and your building a strawman. You are saying A is B, A is C; Z is B; therefore, Z is C. (Where A is xterm, B is depends on xlib6g, C is depends on X, and Z is XEmacs.) Notice the flaw in your logic yet? It should be obvious. As another example. Cars have windows. Cars need sparkplugs. Houses have windows. Therefore, houses need sparkplugs. Note that even though it is linked with an X library, it is still possible for it to ignore such. Not when you're installing it. The actual execution is irrelevant--you can't even install xemacs without X, and installation is just a bit higher You can, and I have. Please stop spouting these lies until you have actually tried it. up in the tree than execution: you can install without execution, but you can't execute without installing. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + via Remote -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fstab - `defaults' and `sync'
On 27/12/99 Arcady Genkin wrote: If I want to mount a partition with `sync' option, can I keep `defaults'? I know `defaults' implies `async', but will explicitly specifying `sync' override that? yup, just like defaults,ro will mount readonly despite the fact that defaults includes the rw option. sync may not help though, i recently turned it on for the root filesystem then a few days later i had massive fs corruption on it. I don't THINK it was related because after the reinstall i left it async and had it ruined again... sync will for sure make the fs unbearably slow. Ethan
apm notebook
hello i am using a travelmate 5300 (texas instruments) notebook when in text mode try to enter the display saver, the display blicks for a moment, and then, instead of clearing the display and blank it, jost drop the next line apm: set display ready: Interface not engaged and this behaviour repeats each time the apm tries to take control of the display to clear it in X11 i have not this problem, when the sreen saver enters, it clears cleanly and blanks the display is there any kernel patch to overcome this problem ? or more generally: how could i fix this problem ? thanks a lot erasmo
Re: cluster
On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 10:05:32PM +0100, luis wrote: which networks have been tried? some advice ? I'd suggest asking either debian-beowulf or the regular beowulf mailing lists (see http://www.beowulf.org/) - this sort of thing comes up all the time on the main beowulf lists. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
setserial
Why does setserial depend on modutils? If I have serial support built into my kernel I do not need modutils, do I? Michael -- Michael Meskes | Go SF 49ers! Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz| Go Rhein Fire! Tel.: (+49) 2431/72651 | Use Debian GNU/Linux! Email: Michael@Fam-Meskes.De | Use PostgreSQL! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being
Quoting John Galt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [...] Quoting John Galt: According to the dependencies, Xemacs requires X just as much as Afterstep, Enlightenment, Xterm, Freeciv, and Ale do. Xemacs depends on xlib6g, xterm depends on xlib6g (and ncurses and libc6 to fully disclose the dependencies, but neither of these have anything to do with X), xterm unequivocally depends on X, xlib6g is the only portion of X that xterm depends on, so xemacs must therefore also depend on X, QED. I've just installed xterm on a system without X. It's a bit tricky using it because I can't write the cookie with xauth (absent). Perhaps unequivocally is like surely when used in a proof. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Blackdown's jdk1.2.2 v3 does not run....
Hi Folks My problem: my system does not run jdk1.2.2 v3. Has anyone built a .deb from the Blackdown tarball? The .debs install and run. I have searched Blackdown and debian.org for java 1.2 .debs for any version of Debian, but there is no joy in Muddville tonight. There were several responses to my earlier query which I very much appreciate, but there is still no joy. Everyone who answered my earlier inquiry agree with the README that installation is trivial. This has not been my experience. My experience with the tarball r3 from Blackdown follow: I have a stock Slink system running on a K6 350 100 MHZ MB 128 MB RAM, 8G ide drive, SiS 6326 8MB video. I have jdk1.1 deb package installed. I need jdk1.2 I downloaded jdk1.2.2 r3 from blackdown, untarred it in /usr/local. I set the path per install instructions from blackdown: export PATH=/usr/bin/jdk1.2.2/bin:$PATH Attemtping to run java from here fails: java or cd /usr/local/jdk1.2.2/bin #./java each result in the following errors: ./java: /bin/realpath: No such file or directory ./java: /bin/realpath: No such file or directory java was not found in /bin/i386/native_threads/java The libhpi.so in Release Candidate #3 appears to require symbols that are not libc on my Slink system. The result is that the scripts that need a version of realpath in the jdk fail, so nothing is found. I concluded this after hacking the script. I hacked this script a bit to find where it failed. It fails at the realpath in the jdk, returning the null string when called a path. I replaced the path to the version of realpath that came with jdk1.2.2 with the path to the realpath already on my system. This time the path to the libraries is correct. I echo'd the value of the variable. The script sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH so the linking loader can find the shared java libraries, but the symbol I mention is not resolved, and my attempt to run java fails. The symbols that remains unresolved on my home system are __libc_current_sigrtmax and __libc_current_sigrtmin These occur in libhpi.so, in the library /usr/local/jdk1.2.2/jre/lib/i386/native_threads/libhpi.so Do I need to upgrade my libc? The README suggests that this release fails 'early versions of libc2' and remarks that the build was made on a Potato system. etting an earlier version of the jdk means taking a stack of floppies tot he office and using split ... If you know how far back I have to go to get a usable version of the jdk (v1? v2?) I would appreciate some advice. If this is not the appropriate forum for this question, please point me some place else. --David David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely, useful, technically accurate, and friendly. (I'm hoping the answer will be all of the above!)
ITP gemdropx, madbomber, defendguin, ...
Id like to package all the games http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/x/ which I can get working. All games are (gemdropx will be made) GPL. As nobody reacted to my call on debian-devel-games, it seems I'll have to package them myself. Most of these games use SDL (available as libsdl* in debian) for sound output, some also for grafics. As our libsdl is not current (a wishlist bug has allready been filed) I think I'll have to build them without sound at the moment. Christian PS Do I have to retract ITPs also? I then retract my ITP for xgfe. The author did not answer and I could not build the package on a potato system, only on slink. As it would be contrib or non-free (qt1) anyway, Ill drop it again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Announcing FAI 1.0 (Fully automatic Installation) (fwd)
- Forwarded message from Bradley M. Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 06:41:34 -0500 (EST) From: Bradley M. Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Announcing FAI 1.0 (Fully automatic Installation) (fwd) X-UIDL: 946309117.21886.k7mail.winstar.com Thought you might find this interesting... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:14:59 + (GMT) From: Martin Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Announcing FAI 1.0 (Fully automatic Installation) --- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:47:15 + --- --- Forwarded message from Thomas Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: 21 Dec 1999 17:30:23 - X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Thomas Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:30:14 +0100 (MET) To: debian-admintool@lists.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Announcing FAI 1.0 (Fully automatic Installation) X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under Emacs 19.34.1 Resent-From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-devel@lists.debian.org archive/latest/51382 X-Loop: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm very happy to announce the first release of FAI (Fully automatic installation). FAI is a non interactive system to install a Debian Linux operating system on a PC cluster. You can take one or more virgin PCs, turn on the power and after a few minutes Linux is installed, configured and running on the whole cluster, without any interaction necessary. In addition, the configuration can be changed automatically on all Linux cluster nodes. Thus you have a scalable method for installing and updating a cluster with little effort involved. We use the Debian distribution and a collection of shell- and Perl-scripts for the installation process. Changes to the configuration files of the operating system are made by the tool cfengine. The home page for FAI is http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ FAI is free software, distributed under the terms of the GNU Public License, version 2. For more information, see the file COPYING. There is no warranty, expressed or implied, associated with this product. Use at your own risk. Comments, bug reports, fixes, enhancements etc. are welcome. Send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAI for Linux is created by: Mattias Gaertner[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas Lange[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jens Ruehmkorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope you enjoy the fully automatically installation ! -- Thomas -- Thomas Lange Institut fuer Informatik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universitaet zu Koeln Pohligstr. 1Telefon: +49 221 470 5303 50969 KoelnFax: +49 221 470 5317 -- [forwarded to beowulf list(s) by: -- Martin Wheeler - StarTEXT - Glastonbury - BA6 9PH - England [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.startext.co.uk/ --- To unsubscribe send a message body containing unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - -- Brian M. Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bma.debian.net/~balmeida Debian Developer | http://www.debian.org When you open Windows, bugs get in! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fstab - `defaults' and `sync'
On 27 Dec 1999, Arcady Genkin wrote: : If I want to mount a partition with `sync' option, can I keep : `defaults'? I know `defaults' implies `async', but will explicitly : specifying `sync' override that? You can keep defaults, but you don't need to - the defaults are, well, defaults :) Here's what I mean: If you specify sync, the fs will also be mounted using rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, and nouser (the defaults). You only need specify defaults in /etc/fstab when all you want are the defaults - the fstab field may not be empty. I'm not explaining this very well but if you think about it it makes sense (I hope :) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Blackdown's jdk1.2.2 v3 does not run....
Hi, I downloaded v1 of jdk-1.2 from blackdown. I had no problems getting it to work after following the instructions in the README.linux file. I tested a program that uses the Swing library that comes with jdk-1.2 and it works just fine. I have slink installed and all I did was to add /usr/jdk1.2/bin to PATH and usr/jdk1.2/lib to CLASSPATH. I also removed my jdk1.1 installation. Hope this helps. ciao Rajesh
Re: Printer configuration
No cutesy graphical stuff ala Red Hat, but magicfilter has the magicfilterconfig script script which should handle it for you. On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 04:31:10PM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote: Ok, Redhat has a neat little control panel that makes installing printers and filters very easy. Does debian have anything comparable or do I need to learn the printcap for lprng? Robert :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting. | and defintely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. http://www.rnd-consulting.com/~nomad DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Bob Nielsen, W6SWE (RN2)Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nhAMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] QRP-L #1985 http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
where is `gc.h' needed for compiling gcc?
I'm trying to compile gcc on Potato with the pgcc patches. Patches applied cleanly, and I edited the debian/patches/ patches that didn't apply cleanly (just version changes between `gcc' and `pgcc') and ran debian/rules binary. Now in src/libobjc/gc.c, it can't find gc.h and gc_typed.h, which are not included with the gcc source. Where can I find them? -- Ferret no baka
Re: where is `gc.h' needed for compiling gcc?
On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 10:00:04AM -0800, Beiad Ian Q. Dalton wrote: I'm trying to compile gcc on Potato with the pgcc patches. Patches applied cleanly, and I edited the debian/patches/ patches that didn't apply cleanly (just version changes between `gcc' and `pgcc') and ran debian/rules binary. Now in src/libobjc/gc.c, it can't find gc.h and gc_typed.h, which are not included with the gcc source. Where can I find them? Package is libgc5-dev -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Debian GNU/Linux Supported Laptops?
Merry Christmas everyone, and a Happy New Year. I am a reseller of COMPAQ, HP, IBM and Toshiba laptops, and would like to know if their current products are compatible with Debian GNU/Linux ? I have not found any reference to this on their respective homepages, and this question is important to potentially 450 units that 1 of my customers would like to purchase. Looking forward to your reply(s), is it possible to get this before January 5 2000? Best Regards, Gary Pinkerton Senior Account Manager Zycom Technology Inc. Ph# 613-253-0077 Fax#613-253-0044 Cell# 613-223-2956 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web page www.zycomtec.com
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
One apparrent success: apt-get dist-upgrade slink - potato on an old ast laptop. The kernel is actually 2.0.29 and hasn't been changed for a long time! (I still have it so I don't break my pcmcia ethernet, mostly due to laziness). Only problem I have seen is that the new system tried to load every possible kernel module on the planet, include a dreaded sbpcd module that spends 10 minutes looking for its card on bootup. There are warnings during the upgrade about this, and pointers to the new module loading configuration. Thanks for the excellent work. nathan Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 26-Dec-1999 Tobias Zimpel wrote: Well, I broke my system completely a few weeks ago with a simple (segfaulting) 'apt-get dist-upgrade' while I was running potato for months without serious problems. There was no chance to repair it; I couldn't even boot, and I didn't manage to repair it using a rescue disk. The only sollution was to install the whole system new from the scratch. :-( But I'd say that potato is stable enough to use it without serious problems. I am running potato on my other machine, but I want to upgrade my laptop from Slink to Potato. If I understand correctly, you had to install a whole new Potato system from scratch. That is exactly what I want to avoid; I want to upgrade the system I have now. thanks -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- N a t h a n O . S i e m e r s Bioinformatics Division of Applied Genomics Bristol-Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute Hopewell Building 3B, P.O. Box 5400, Princeton, NJ 08543-5400 609 818-6568 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On 27-Dec-1999 Nathan O. Siemers wrote: One apparrent success: apt-get dist-upgrade slink - potato on an old ast laptop. The kernel is actually 2.0.29 and hasn't been changed for a long time! (I still have it so I don't break my pcmcia ethernet, mostly due to laziness). I broke my pcmcia stuff and I am unable to fix it. I think it has to do with trying to install a kernel the Debian way. I will trying reinstalling a small slink system and then upgrade via ppp. If that does not work, I will have to wait for Potato CD's to be released. thanks -- Andrew
kernel config problems
I am updating my kernel (2.2.10 to 2.2.13) and when I type make xconfig, I get the following errors. Can anyone help me? Thanks. rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts kconfig.tk make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts' gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -c -o tkparse.o tkparse.c In file included from /usr/local/include/stdio.h:57, from tkparse.c:37: /usr/local/include/libio.h:333: parse error before `_IO_sgetn' /usr/local/include/libio.h:333: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/libio.h:333: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from tkparse.c:37: /usr/local/include/stdio.h:233: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:239: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:269: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:273: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:277: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:442: parse error before `fread' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:442: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:443: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/local/include/stdio.h:445: parse error before `fwrite' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:445: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:446: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/local/include/stdio.h:450: parse error before `fread_unlocked' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:450: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:451: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/local/include/stdio.h:452: parse error before `fwrite_unlocked' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:453: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdio.h:454: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from tkparse.c:38: /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:80: parse error before `__ctype_get_mb_cur_max' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:80: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from tkparse.c:38: /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:356: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:386: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:474: parse error before `__size' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:476: parse error before `__nmemb' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:482: parse error before `size_t' In file included from /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:492, from tkparse.c:38: /usr/local/include/alloca.h:33: parse error before `__size' In file included from tkparse.c:38: /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:497: parse error before `__size' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:613: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:618: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:678: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:681: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:685: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:688: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:695: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:698: parse error before `*' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:702: parse error before `wchar_t' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:706: parse error before `mbstowcs' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:706: parse error before `*' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:707: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:709: parse error before `wcstombs' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:710: parse error before `*' /usr/local/include/stdlib.h:710: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from tkparse.c:39: /usr/local/include/string.h:5: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/string.h:7: parse error before `__strnlen' /usr/local/include/string.h:7: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/string.h:7: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/local/include/string.h:14: parse error before `size_t' /usr/local/include/string.h:16: parse error before `size_t' tkparse.c: In function `tokenize_line': tkparse.c:306: warning: implicit declaration of function `strncmp' tkparse.c:464: warning: implicit declaration of function `strdup' tkparse.c:464: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast tkparse.c:466: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast tkparse.c:468: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast make[1]: *** [tkparse.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts' make: *** [xconfig] Error 2 -- Brian J. Stults Doctoral Candidate Department of Sociology University at Albany - SUNY Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 Web: www.albany.edu/~bs7452
Re: Debian GNU/Linux Supported Laptops?
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Gary Pinkerton wrote: I am a reseller of COMPAQ, HP, IBM and Toshiba laptops, and would like to know if their current products are compatible with Debian GNU/Linux ? I have been able to install Debian on several laptop models (see, for instance, http://sdss.ucsd.edu/~vaio). However, Debian is not a commercial distribution, and I doubt that Debian will ever certify installation on a specific commercial product. It is up to a company like yours to make such a certification, or for a company that packages a Debian-based commercial distribution. An example of a company that will (in theory) sell Debian pre-installed is at www.linuxlaptops.com. Basically, any computer that is compatible with the Linux kernel is also compatible with Debian. The question is really one of hardware support. Many laptops have hardware that is not Linux kernel compatible. For example, there are Winmodems that are software modems using proprietary drivers. Also, newer technologies such as USB are only supported in the unstable kernel tree at present. To find out (in general) about Linux on laptop computers, you should also look at this URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ While I wish anyone luck at building a business pre-installing Debian on laptop computers, there are going to be issues that require a high level of expertise at this point in time. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Quake is GPL
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 01:56:00PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: I've tried to be nice in this discussion. I'm no longer trying. I WILL NOT CRIPPLE MY QUAKE PACKAGES TO SATISFY THE STUPIDITY INHERENT IN THE LAWS OF EXACTLY TWO COUNTRIES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT I KNOW OF. I CONSIDER THE LAWS THEMSELVES CENSORSHIP AT THEIR CORE AND THEREFORE MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE. Is that perhaps a little clearer? I never said that someone should cripple a package. Stop assuming things that I don't say. And also I'm not talking about censorship. I'm just reminding you that some FTP-Maintainer may stand half in jail because they don't have the fng time to go through the whole debian archive for excluding every software that's illegal in their country. We should provide them with a possible solution for excluding such a software, because you can change a government in one day or because some people think they are more important. Ciao Christian P.S.: I wonder what you would do if you are such a maintainer who could be with half an leg in jail. My $0.02: Yes, it's a pain for the FTP maintainer to have to figure out what packages he can legally mirror. But you take on some responsibilities when you become an FTP maintainer, just as when you become a package maintainer. What you're asking would be to require all Debian developers to be legal experts and know how legal their packages are in every location in the world. Otherwise, any system of indicating what packages are illegal where would fail. For all intents and purposes, such a system is impossible. If you don't have the time or the inclination to make sure that you're in compliance with the laws of the government under whose rule you reside, then as much as I hate to say it, that's your problem. If you can't handle the responsibilities of being a fill in the blank, then you have no business being one. The same can be said for anything. No offense to you intended, of course. -- Mike Markley [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP: 0xA9592D4D 62 A7 11 E2 23 AD 4F 57 27 05 1A 76 56 92 D5 F6 GPG: 0x3B047084 7FC7 0DC0 EF31 DF83 7313 FE2B 77A8 F36A 3B04 7084 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux Supported Laptops?
On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 01:53:09PM -0500, Gary Pinkerton wrote: I am a reseller of COMPAQ, HP, IBM and Toshiba laptops, and would like to know if their current products are compatible with Debian GNU/Linux ? You can look up specific laptop models at: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ AFAIK if a laptop will work with any distribution, it will work with Debian. I have not found any reference to this on their respective homepages, and this question is important to potentially 450 units that 1 of my customers would like to purchase. It's always good to let the manufacturer know in some way that you are planning to run Linux on the system. Returning the bundled proprietary OS media and license for a refund is one way, but you could just write them a letter. -- Don Marti | Use GIF images? You may already be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] | criminal. http://zgp.org/~dmarti | whois DM683 | http://burnallgifs.org/
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Pollywog wrote: On 27-Dec-1999 Nathan O. Siemers wrote: One apparrent success: apt-get dist-upgrade slink - potato on an old ast laptop. The kernel is actually 2.0.29 and hasn't been changed for a long time! (I still have it so I don't break my pcmcia ethernet, mostly due to laziness). I broke my pcmcia stuff and I am unable to fix it. I think it has to do with trying to install a kernel the Debian way. I will trying reinstalling a small slink system and then upgrade via ppp. If that does not work, I will have to wait for Potato CD's to be released. Could you describe the problem? I upgraded my Thinkpad 560 to potato 4 weeks ago. However, I normally network the machine with a Dlink pcmcia ethernet card which still works fine. What's broken is my ability to use a standard USR 28.8 pcmcia serial modem card. The kernel reports that the card is identified properly, the light is on, but the modem is not detected. It would be great to solve this one. BTW, I didn't know about the debian-laptop list until today. That might be the best place to discuss this. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 07:18:09PM -, Pollywog wrote: I broke my pcmcia stuff and I am unable to fix it. I think it has to do with trying to install a kernel the Debian way. I will trying reinstalling a small slink system and then upgrade via ppp. If that does not work, I will have to wait for Potato CD's to be released. PCMCIA support depends upon some kernel modules which are provided in a seperate package to the kernel. When you install a new kernel you also need to install a version of these modules that matches your new kernel. You should either install the version of pcmcia-modules corresponding to your kernel or install the pcmcia-source package and use that to build the modules. I tend to keep a copy of pcmcia-source installed all the time on my laptop in case something goes wrong. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
Reverse DNS problem after bind upgrade(?)
for some reason other servers cannot reverse resolve my ips anymore after a recent bind upgrade, however when asking my server it works fine.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/games] nslookup Default Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 208.222.179.1 Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 *** localhost can't find 208.222.179.1: Server failed server 208.222.179.31 Default Server: [208.222.179.31] Address: 208.222.179.31 208.222.179.1 Server: [208.222.179.31] Address: 208.222.179.31 Name:cis1-eth1.firetrail.com Address: 208.222.179.1 this is what my zone file looks like: galactica:/var/named/reverse# head db.208.222.179 $TTL 604800 @ IN SOA ns1.firetrail.com. hostmaster.mail.firetrail.com. ( 1999122601 ; Serial (mmddnn) 10800 ; refresh - 3yr 3600; retry - 1hr 604800 ; expire - 1 week 86400 ) ; min TTL - 1 day (records here) i just added the $TTL value last night so maybe its possible that the other servers just havent updated ? I am running bind 8.2.2p5-0slink. i believe my DNS is working since it works when i query it directly.. ideas ? thanks .. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 12:12pm up 130 days, 5 min, 2 users, load average: 1.81, 1.60, 1.54
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On 27-Dec-1999 Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: BTW, I didn't know about the debian-laptop list until today. That might be the best place to discuss this. I did not know until now :) thanks -- Andrew
Re: Athlon problems?
you need at least 2.2.13 to run w/athlon. you may find some unofficial patches to run it with other kernels..but as far as stock kernels go you need 2.2.13 nate On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Rob Rati wrote: ratirh I read a few posts that appeared lately that kinda confused me. I am ratirh planning on building an AMD Athlon system very soon, and a few posts ratirh I've seen lately seem to imply that the 2.0.x kernels (ones that ship ratirh with stable dists thus far) don't like the Athlon proc. Is this true? ratirh I want to install Debian 2.1 on it, but if the 2.0.x kernels have ratirh issuses with the Athlon, then this could prove more difficult than I had ratirh thought. Are there issues with the Athlon proc and linux? If so, what ratirh are they and how does one get around them? Thanks. ratirh ratirh Rob ratirh ratirh ratirh -- ratirh Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ratirh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 12:12pm up 130 days, 5 min, 2 users, load average: 1.81, 1.60, 1.54
XF86 error: could not mmap framebuffer
Ok .. I got this 3Dfx voodoo banshee card..(PCI) it works fine in my Celery system, but when i put it in my Socket 7 (i430TX chipset) system, and try to start X with the same X server i get: Fatal server error: xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (Device not configured) The only X server i can get to work with it iss XF86 3.4 from creative labs. But Glide doesnt want to work with it for some reason(segfaults and claims it cannot access the banshee, the kernel module is loaded) I'm running it on corel linux 1.0 w/custom 2.2.12 kernel using XF86_SVGA: XFree86 Version 3.3.5 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: August 23 1999 on a K6-2 300 (o/c to 366) on an AOpen AP5T-3 i430TX august 98 bios. can anyone possibly expain the nature of the error? if you need more info i can provide it. thanks! nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 12:12pm up 130 days, 5 min, 2 users, load average: 1.81, 1.60, 1.54
Re: cluster
I'd suggest looking into Turbolinux's cluster software. it's not cheap but it looks damn good. and it is cheap compared to the alternatives in other operating suystems both *nix and win* nate On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Mark Brown wrote: brooni On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 10:05:32PM +0100, luis wrote: brooni brooni which networks have been tried? some advice ? brooni brooni I'd suggest asking either debian-beowulf or the regular beowulf mailing brooni lists (see http://www.beowulf.org/) - this sort of thing comes up all brooni the time on the main beowulf lists. brooni brooni -- brooni Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) brooni http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ brooni EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ brooni brooni brooni -- brooni Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null brooni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 12:12pm up 130 days, 5 min, 2 users, load average: 1.81, 1.60, 1.54
Re: Debian2.1r4
Where can one obtain Debian 2.1r4 on CD-ROM? If you want CD image download, you can get it from: http://sunsite.org.uk/packages/debian-cd/ Cheers, -Reza
Problem with my apmd daemon !
Hi, I've recompiled my kernel with the apm support, I reboot, but when I launch apmd, the error is : No APM support in the kernel, but I'm sure my kernel is this apm support. What is the problem ? Is there a configuration file or another manipulation ? Regards, Manu
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On 27-Dec-1999 Mark Brown wrote: PCMCIA support depends upon some kernel modules which are provided in a seperate package to the kernel. When you install a new kernel you also need to install a version of these modules that matches your new kernel. I did that, but still lost pcmcia. You should either install the version of pcmcia-modules corresponding to your kernel or install the pcmcia-source package and use that to build the modules. I tend to keep a copy of pcmcia-source installed all the time on my laptop in case something goes wrong. I did that too, kept a backup, and a modules backup too :) Anyway, I am installing potato now on my laptop, from scratch. I will then see what /usr/src should look like on a new system. I want to try installing kernels the Debian way on my laptop. I don't do it that way on my other machine. -- Andrew
Re: What is required to provide lpr?
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 07:21:57PM -0600, Jeff Licquia wrote: I have had a wishlist bug filed against cupsys-bsd, asking that it Provide lpr; evidently, some other packages Recommend lpr, and apt keeps trying to replace cupsys-bsd and replace it with lpr. AFAIK, the packages only use the command-line utilities, and cupsys-bsd is sufficient for this. I am a bit uncomfortable with this, though, since cupsys-bsd only provides BSD-compatible command line tools and not a full-fledged lpd service. Unless someone points out an example to the contrary, I would take a dependency (recommendation, suggestion) on lpr to mean a dependency on the lpr client program. So if cupsys-bsd provides that, I think you're justified in providing: lpr. If someone turns up a program that wants to talk to lpd directly, perhaps the best solution is to create an lpd virtual package which the lpr and lprng packages can provide. It might also be necessary or useful to manage the lpr client bienary as an alternative, so that both lpr and cupsys-bsd could be installed (if this is in fact a reasonable thing to want). Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: This can lead to a better solution at all (was: Re: Quake is GPL)
Quoting Eduardo Marcel Macan: We need to stop staring at our own bellybuttons (this is a local expression translated) The American/English version is contemplating our navel (navel being another term for bellybutton). -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks LinuxCabal.Org - Co-location facilities and meeting space -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOLserver Package
I've uploaded a first cut at the AOLserver package to master. This is a large portion of the code that runs AOL which was recently released under a modified NPL (APL) which basically releases the source, but prohibits the use of the AOL logo or other AOL branding stuff. Could some web-savvy folks please take a look at it and see if the configuration seems sound? I can use it on my development box, and it works find with dhelp, but I haven't attempted anything fancy yet. Thanks for your help, -Brent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wrong hardware address for ethernet card
Hi, Has anyone had problems with the kernel reading the wrong ethernet hardware address? I'm using a D-Link DFE-530TX card and the via-rhine driver. I've just done a clean installation of Slink off a cd. When the machine starts up, the first two digit of the hardware address for the ethernet card are 83 instead of 00 (as the address on the card says). I'm pretty sure this is a software roblem becuase I've tried it with two separate cards (same model, just different addresses). If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. Thanks. Aatif
RE: Blackdown's jdk1.2.2 v3 does not run....
First a peeve: I am writing this because I am reminded by Rajesh's message. He does what I think *all of us* should do. I think it is completely unhelpful for people to reply to it doesn't work messages with well, it works for me messages. As a list it is a nuisance, however, the real problem occurs with searches of archives and USENET. The reply includes the original message and thus a search returns these offending messages. Now, a response (keep in mind I have not installed Blackdown): You are running /usr/local/jdk1.2.2/bin/java yet your path is /usr/bin/jdk1.2.2/bin (something I have issue with, but that aside...). Also, the native_threads and realpath variables seem to be relative, your error mentions an absolute path. This is a problem (and judging by the success responses to which you refer, it is likely in your script hacking). Jesse -Original Message- From: Rajesh Radhakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 11:48 AM To: David Teague Cc: Debian Users Group Subject: Re: Blackdown's jdk1.2.2 v3 does not run Hi, I downloaded v1 of jdk-1.2 from blackdown. I had no problems getting it to work after following the instructions in the README.linux file. I tested a program that uses the Swing library that comes with jdk-1.2 and it works just fine. I have slink installed and all I did was to add /usr/jdk1.2/bin to PATH and usr/jdk1.2/lib to CLASSPATH. I also removed my jdk1.1 installation. Hope this helps. ciao Rajesh
Re: Reverse DNS problem after bind upgrade(?)
hi... a. did you check resolv.conf b. did you restart named ? c. if you only use 208.222.179.31 as your dns server... than does reverse work ?? d. are you running secondary on localhost from 208.222.179.31 e. was it using named.boot before and now its using named.conf ? have fun linuxing alvin for some reason other servers cannot reverse resolve my ips anymore after a recent bind upgrade, however when asking my server it works fine.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/games] nslookup Default Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 208.222.179.1 Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 *** localhost can't find 208.222.179.1: Server failed server 208.222.179.31 Default Server: [208.222.179.31] Address: 208.222.179.31 208.222.179.1 Server: [208.222.179.31] Address: 208.222.179.31 Name:cis1-eth1.firetrail.com Address: 208.222.179.1 this is what my zone file looks like: galactica:/var/named/reverse# head db.208.222.179 $TTL 604800 @ IN SOA ns1.firetrail.com. hostmaster.mail.firetrail.com. ( 1999122601 ; Serial (mmddnn) 10800 ; refresh - 3yr 3600; retry - 1hr 604800 ; expire - 1 week 86400 ) ; min TTL - 1 day (records here) i just added the $TTL value last night so maybe its possible that the other servers just havent updated ? I am running bind 8.2.2p5-0slink. i believe my DNS is working since it works when i query it directly.. ideas ?
Re: MTA
peter == peter karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: peter Hi! I'll be moving and will lose my direct Internet peter connection, and will have to resort to dial-up. To prepare for peter this, I am switching over to doing mail and news offline peter (slrnpull, fetchmail), but I need some ideas on what to use for peter outgoing mail. I've had sendmail die on me when I'm not peter connected to a network (not in Debian, though, haven't tried peter sendmail in Debian), so I wonder what the best setup is for peter outgoing mail when it is only to send mail when I connect to peter the ISP (and directly when I do that, preferrably without peter manual intervention). With sendmail, use default delivery mode = deferred. Of course there's a funny syntax you need to learn to put that in the config file; you didn't really expect better, did you? :-) To really send the mail when you're online do sendmail -q in a cron job or similar. -- Ian Zimmerman Lightbinders, Inc. 2325 3rd Street #324, San Francisco, California 94107
Re: E commerce stuff for linux?
Help! I have run the minivend configuration over a dozen times and am still dying. Would you mind looking at www.wiredtraders.net? I reckon my problem is that I have no idea of where my cgi folders are or where they should be but if you can tell where I've gone wrong, please do let me know. Patrick
