Segundo canal de RDSI

2000-04-25 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos...

He instalado el ultimo empaquetamiento de las isdnutils de frozen, donde
vienen unas indicaciones para activar el segundo canal de RDSI, utilizando
los scripts de Debian.

El caso es que lo activa, pero despues de un poco de tiempo conectado, se
desconecta, y no veo que haya trafico por este canal. No se ya donde mirar,
porque en los logs no veo nada que me indique alguna anomalia.

¿Alguien lo ha conseguido?
¿Es algo que puede depender del proveedor?

Saludos.


Re: samba

2000-04-25 Thread David Charro Ripa
Prueba con un programa llamado swat que esta en paquete Debian. A traves de 
pagina web te
permite configurar todos los parametros y ademas te pone enlaces a la 
explicacion de cada uno
de ellos. Esta en ingles pero es muy util.

Tambien muy comodo para las impresoras en redes windows es el paquete printtool 
(es de Red
Hat pero tienes paquete debian). Desde las X y a golpe de raton te soluciona 
muchas cosas. El
magicfilterconfig tambien te puede ayudar aunque tendras que tocar el fichero 
printcap.
Si las impresoras estan en red con los dispositivos jetdirect de HP, tienes una 
version para
linux del programa webjetadmin (aunque tambien admiten telnet). Busca por HP. 
Desde el podras
configurar la IP, el nombre de la cola, y todo lo que te dejen. Si tienes 
jetdirect (u otra
impresora en red que veas al estilo UNIX, con IP y cosas asi) te puedo pasar mi 
/etc/printcap
(en realidad me lo hizo el magicfilterconfig).

Saludos

K-charro



por favor urgente RDSI

2000-04-25 Thread Juanma
Pues que llama al ISP pero no consigue conectar.
Y es que miro en /var/log/messages y en una linea dice ipppd:info:no CHAP
secret entry for this user

Le he puesto el nombre de mil maneras (comillas sin ellas) le he puesto un
nombre diferente (mi clave personal) en fin, que me vueklvo loco y me da
este mensaje.

El modem funciona pues incluso hago que me llame al mio e intentya negociar.
Tambien recibe llamadas, pero no hay forma de que encuentre el CHAP de
marras.

Por favor si alguien sabe algo, contesteme rápido.


Un saludo



Re: Copiar archivo particion DOS a particion LINUX

2000-04-25 Thread Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz

Jorge, respondo por la lista porque tu dirección de email me da
problemas de service unavailable.

Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:44:12 +0200 (CET)
From: Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jorge chavarriaga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Copiar archivo particion DOS a particion LINUX

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, jorge chavarriaga wrote:

 Una ultima cosa, como puedo recompilar el nuclo con suporte para fat/vfat.

Antes de nada ten en cuenta que quizás ya tengas el soporte fat/vfat.
Primero prueba el mount, y si falla, seguramente será la falta del módulo
adecuado.

Para compilar, necesitas el código fuente de alguna versión, a ser posible
la misma que estés usando para no liar la perdiz. Cuando lo tengas
descomprimido por alguna parte, entras en el directorio y tecleas make
menuconfig o make xconfig para hacerlo desde X. Se seleccionan las
opciones, y tras eso al salir se ejecuta make; make modules; make
modules_install, y ya quedaría un make zdisk por ejemplo para crear un
disquete de arranque.

Realmente compilar el núcleo es algo que debería hacer todo el mundo, y
como es tan común, está bien documentado incluso en español. Si tienes
instalada la documentación estándar (HOWTOs, MINIs, etc) es posible que
tengas una ayuda en /usr/src/doc/HOWTO/spanish/Kernel-Como.html.

El código fuente del núcleo se suele poner en /usr/src/linux

 Estoy trabahando normalmente en GUINDOWS 98.

Creo que no va a servir mucho para recompilar...

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Segundo canal RDSI

2000-04-25 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola...

Sospecho que mi proveedor (iddeo) no utiliza negociacion MPPP, necesaria
para enganchar el segundo canal RDSI, por esto que veo en el ppp.log

MPPP negotiation He: No We: No

Saludos.


RE: Copiar archivo particion DOS a particion LINUX

2000-04-25 Thread Alvarez, Angel
Falto el make dep antes del make bzImage

  Angel Claudio Alvarez


-Mensaje original-
De: Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Martes 25 de Abril de 2000 07:50
Para: Debian Users Spanish
Asunto: Re: Copiar archivo particion DOS a particion LINUX



Jorge, respondo por la lista porque tu dirección de email me da
problemas de service unavailable.

Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:44:12 +0200 (CET)
From: Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jorge chavarriaga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Copiar archivo particion DOS a particion LINUX

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, jorge chavarriaga wrote:

 Una ultima cosa, como puedo recompilar el nuclo con suporte para fat/vfat.

Antes de nada ten en cuenta que quizás ya tengas el soporte fat/vfat.
Primero prueba el mount, y si falla, seguramente será la falta del módulo
adecuado.

Para compilar, necesitas el código fuente de alguna versión, a ser posible
la misma que estés usando para no liar la perdiz. Cuando lo tengas
descomprimido por alguna parte, entras en el directorio y tecleas make
menuconfig o make xconfig para hacerlo desde X. Se seleccionan las
opciones, y tras eso al salir se ejecuta make; make modules; make
modules_install, y ya quedaría un make zdisk por ejemplo para crear un
disquete de arranque.

Realmente compilar el núcleo es algo que debería hacer todo el mundo, y
como es tan común, está bien documentado incluso en español. Si tienes
instalada la documentación estándar (HOWTOs, MINIs, etc) es posible que
tengas una ayuda en /usr/src/doc/HOWTO/spanish/Kernel-Como.html.

El código fuente del núcleo se suele poner en /usr/src/linux

 Estoy trabahando normalmente en GUINDOWS 98.

Creo que no va a servir mucho para recompilar...

 Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz  ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gradha.infierno.org)
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RE: por favor urgente RDSI

2000-04-25 Thread Alvarez, Angel
Utilizas el wvdial???

  Angel Claudio Alvarez


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De: Juanma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Martes 25 de Abril de 2000 06:52
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: por favor urgente RDSI


Pues que llama al ISP pero no consigue conectar.
Y es que miro en /var/log/messages y en una linea dice ipppd:info:no CHAP
secret entry for this user

Le he puesto el nombre de mil maneras (comillas sin ellas) le he puesto un
nombre diferente (mi clave personal) en fin, que me vueklvo loco y me da
este mensaje.

El modem funciona pues incluso hago que me llame al mio e intentya negociar.
Tambien recibe llamadas, pero no hay forma de que encuentre el CHAP de
marras.

Por favor si alguien sabe algo, contesteme rápido.


Un saludo



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curiosidad....

2000-04-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hola, listeros.

Muchas veces despues de haber estudiado un poquitin en Linux en la noche (y 
cuando ya no puedo mas... hay que estar a las 7:00am al otro dia en el 
trabajo.. :)), para relajarme ejecuto 
$ exec xaudio /home/rkrdo/mp3/cool/* 
$ sleep 20m; poweroff

Pero aveces mientras me relajo tengo una nueva *VISION* ;-)... y me levanto a 
seguir mi camino... pero no se como abortar el comando poweroff... ya que si 
miro con ps -ax me sale unicamente el sleep.. pero el poweroff no me aparece 
por ningun lado.. no se si estoy mirando mal.. pero como hago para abortar el 
poweroff despues de haber ejecutado todo esto??

Muchas gracias

Ricardo Rodríguez
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Re: Copiar archivo particion DOS a particion LINUX

2000-04-25 Thread Miguel Rodriguez Penabad
Y el make clean despues del make dep :D
Miguel

Alvarez, Angel wrote:
 
 Falto el make dep antes del make bzImage
 
   Angel Claudio Alvarez
 
[...]
 Para compilar, necesitas el código fuente de alguna versión, a ser posible
 la misma que estés usando para no liar la perdiz. Cuando lo tengas
 descomprimido por alguna parte, entras en el directorio y tecleas make
 menuconfig o make xconfig para hacerlo desde X. Se seleccionan las
 opciones, y tras eso al salir se ejecuta make; make modules; make
 modules_install, y ya quedaría un make zdisk por ejemplo para crear un
 disquete de arranque.
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RV: Segundo canal RDSI

2000-04-25 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Reenvio de nuevo porque lo he recibido desde un servidor que es la primera
vez que veo : mundomail.net

Hola...

Sospecho que mi proveedor (iddeo) no utiliza negociacion MPPP, necesaria
para enganchar el segundo canal RDSI, por esto que veo en el ppp.log

MPPP negotiation He: No We: No

Saludos.


Re: curiosidad....

2000-04-25 Thread Miguel Rodriguez Penabad
En vez de utilizar el poweroff, por que no usas shutdown?
shutdown -h tiempo de espera
No recuerdo ahora mismo la sintaxis del tiempo de espera, pero
con shutdown --help o man shutdown.. :)
Y para cancelarlo,
shutdown -c

Saludos
Miguel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hola, listeros.
 
 Muchas veces despues de haber estudiado un poquitin en Linux en la noche (y 
 cuando ya no puedo mas... hay que estar a las 7:00am al otro dia en el 
 trabajo.. :)), para relajarme ejecuto
 $ exec xaudio /home/rkrdo/mp3/cool/* 
 $ sleep 20m; poweroff
 
 Pero aveces mientras me relajo tengo una nueva *VISION* ;-)... y me levanto a 
 seguir mi camino... pero no se como abortar el comando poweroff... ya que si 
 miro con ps -ax me sale unicamente el sleep.. pero el poweroff no me aparece 
 por ningun lado.. no se si estoy mirando mal.. pero como hago para abortar el 
 poweroff despues de haber ejecutado todo esto??
 
 Muchas gracias
 
 Ricardo Rodríguez
 Cartago-Colombia
 
 
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RE: Duda sobre lilo

2000-04-25 Thread Joaquin Fenandez Piqueras
Buenass!!
Creo que el problema es que la partición /boot ha de estar dentro de los
primeros 1024 cilindros del disco, en algunos discos que utilizan LBA (como
es mi caso) los 1024 cilindros quedan aproximadamente por el octavo giga,
mientras que si se usa el modo NORMAL... ocho gigas son 16000 y pico
cilindros por lo que quedas fuera del margen. VARIAS SOLUCIONES:

1) Instalas la nueva version de LILO (no la he probado no se que decirte)
2) Creas una pequeña particion al principio del disco (de 10 a 25 Megas son
mas que suficientes) y montas el directorio /boot. Despues puedes poner la
de MOCOSOFT y luego la de /. Yo lo tengo asi, y no me ha dado nunca ningun
problema. Eso si, al LILO le has ded decir que lea la partición /.
Por ejemplo, en el trabajo monte uno asi:
hda1   /boot   10Mb
hda2   WinNT   6Gb
hda3   Swap128Mb
hda4   /  6Gb
El disco no iba muy fino en modo LBA, por lo que lo tuve que poner en
modo NORMAL, por lo tanto la partición de root ( / ) me quedo fuera de los
1024 cilindros.
3) Instalas Linux al principio del disco y GÜINDOUS al final. (si da
problemas que los de mocosoft que ya estamos acostumbrados 8-) ).

Espero que te sirva!

TA LUEG.
Quimi

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Fecha: lunes, 17 de abril de 2000 18:57
Asunto: Duda sobre lilo



He tratado de instalar varias distribuciones de linux en una maquina con
disco duro de 15 gb, he dejado los primeros 10 gb para ruindows y los
ultimos 5 los quiero para linux, pero siempre despes de la instalición
cuando trata de escribir el lilo en la particion de root..

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Re: Me presento a la lista.

2000-04-25 Thread Carlos
Hue-Bond decía:
 El sábado 22 de abril de 2000 a la(s) 18:09:53 +0200, Santiago Romero contaba:
 
  he estado LITERALMENTE _horas_ contestando a las
  preguntas de los scripts de los .deb. Piensa que como no puedes volver
  atrás (rectifico: no sé volver atrás) me tengo que pensar cada pregunta
  1000 veces para dar la respuesta al script. En cambio en redhat como
  la configuración es post-instalación y lo hago editando el fichero de
  configuración, puedo volver para atrás, editar otro, etc. 
 
  Interesante punto de vista. Estaría  bien una pregunta del tipo
  ¿Quiere configurar  esto ahora? al principio  de cada postinst.sh
  de  forma que  no haya  que estar  en la  cuerda floja  al instalar
  paquetes (igual que con el 'make config' jeje).
 

Pues ya me perdonareis pero sigo sin ver el problema por ninguna
parte.
Primero porque, durante la instalación, puedes contestar a las
preguntas con la respuesta por defecto y luego editar los archivos
correspondientes (igual que en cualquier distro) para dejarlo a tu
gusto sin más problemas (sendmailconfig es el único script que no
he utilizado por mera inercia).
Segundo porque siempre puedes relanzar el script de configuración del
paquete en cuestión. Me explico: pongamos que instalas el sendmail (o
exim, o smail...). Si durante la instalación contestaste al tuntún y
luego ves que no queda a tu gusto, relanzas sendmailconfig y
listo. Cualquier programa que en la instalación, durante el
setting te haga alguna pregunta, significa que ese script de
configuración queda instalado en /usr/sbin para relanzarlo tantas
veces como desees. Yo, cuando tenía el Exim, lanzaba eximconfig cada 
vez que cambiaba el nombre del host real -en lugar de editar 
/etc/eximconfig que, obviamente resultaba incluso más rápido- por
puro vicio...
(Hablo de slink, y hamm; no he probado potato aunque haya slinkizado
los paquetes que me interesaban; en potato creo que viene el paquete
debianconfig -o algo similar- que agrupa todos esos ficheros de 
post-config).
Resumiendo: no veo esa cuerda floja por ningún lado. ¿No será más
bien pereza e inercia? Creo que debian lo pone todo muy fácil; 
incluso contestando a las respuestas por defecto te deja el sistema 
_operativo_ (cuidado, operativo no significa a tu gusto) sin más 
paliativos. A mí particularmente me parece más sencilla de configurar
que RedHat en muchos casos; incluso sin tener que entrar en las X's...
y no lo digo por crear polémica, sino sinceramente. Tal vez los 
*config no sean tan vistosos como similares utilidades de otras dists,
pero sí tan efectivos. Alucino cuando la peña dice que debian carece de
herramientas de configuración (¡hasta bindconfig!!!). ¿Algo más
sencillo que teclear gpmconfig si erraste durante la instalación?
Otra cosa es su política de pruebas y similares (los paquetes han 
quedado obsoletos incluso antes de lanzar la dist); pero también 
resulta fácilmente solventable -pieno yo (stown, dh_make o simplemente 
make)-...
Y, para acabar, cuando has terminado de instalar debian resulta que
en unos 300 Mb tienes _de todo_ (servidor proxy incluido), mientras 
que la misma operatividad -seguramente menor, ya que para instalar el 
wwwoffle necesitas las Power Tools o bajarlo de interné- en RedHat 
te ha supesto por lo menos 450 Mb de espacio en disco. ¿Me equivoco 
de mucho?
Salud y perdón a todos por el rollo (me doy cuen que me pasé).

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Re: Logs de IPCHAINS

2000-04-25 Thread Raul GN
El Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 05:54:33PM +0200, Santiago Romero escribió:
 El dom, 23 de abr de 2000, a las 07:32:35 +0200, Raul GN dijo:
¿Qué regla he de poner en el syslog.conf para desviar los
mensajes del ipchains a un fichero ipchains.log en lugar de
al messages? (para que el messages no crezca enormemente y
poder controlar el tamaño de los DENYs tranquilamente).
   
  
  Bueno, no se si ya te han constado a esto ya pero por si no, aqui va lo 
  poco que se del tema:
  
  kern.info   /dev/tty10
 
  pero esto envia _solo_ la del ipchains o toda la del kernel?
  es que lo unico que quiero separar es la info del ipchains,
  exclusivamente.

Según el IPCHAINS-HOWTO: ... The '/etc/syslog.conf' controls the behaviour of 
syslogd, by specifying a destination for each 'faciclity' (in our case, 
the facility is kernel) an 'level' ( for ipchains, the level used is 
info). 

Si hay o no otra forma, no lo se.

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Re: Me presento a la lista.

2000-04-25 Thread Raúl Miró
  por cierto, ¿que tal la Storm Linux de la Linux Journal? ¿Me la compro
  o no vale la pena? Lo digo porque la Corel Linux me ha parecido un
  ENGENDRO impresionante, una bazofieta, no sé como Corel ha podido hacer
  algo tan malo (aunque hablo con solo 2 instalaciones de corel a mis
  espaldas)...

Bueno, no es ninguna maravilla la Corel, pero a mi me ha servido para
vía apt-get, hacer un upgrade y tener ahora funcionando una potato de
maravilla; fuera kde, fuera kwm y con la maravilla de enlightenment y
GNOME funcionado...

Lo que no llego a encontrar, como he visto en otras distribuciones, es
algun programilla que permita la gestión de usuarios en modo gráfico,
¿no he buscado bien?. 

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puerto paralelo

2000-04-25 Thread Hilario Ortigosa monteoliva
buenas, ante todo.

a ver si a alguno le suena semejante 'curiosidad'

tengo una hp deskjet 510.

Pues resulta, que si cargo parport, para que use irq, no soy capaz de
imprimir nada, ni texto ascii. Me sale nada mas que basura.

Sin embargo, si la pongo por polling, todo sale perfecto.

Alguna idea de por qué ?

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Re: Sistema de instala??o em Portugu?s da Potato - Andamento

2000-04-25 Thread Adriano Freitas
Pedro Guerreiro wrote:
 
 On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 09:14:58PM -0300, Adriano Freitas wrote:
  Marcelo Elias Del Valle wrote:
  
   ficar pronto...
   - Os patches da xlib... Não seria possivel a criação de um pacote 
   .deb
   com a xlib patcheada?
 
Um pacote .deb com o patch eu acho meio difícil deles colocarem à
  disposição na distribuição principal.
 
 Porquê? Envia uma msg ao Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ele é o
 responsável pelos pacotes do XFree86) explicando o caso. Ele já aplica
 tantos patches à versão original do X que mais um menos um ;-). Bom, em todo
 o caso não se perde nada tentando.
 


Se eu não me engano, o próprio Quinot faz parte dos desenvolvedores da
Debian... Se fosse tão simples assim, ele mesmo teria pedido para o
pessoal da Debian colocar o patch que ele mesmo fez na distribuição :)

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Correção do mapa de teclados ABNT2 da Potato

2000-04-25 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Pessoal, 

Testei o mapa de teclados br-abnt2.kmap da Potato em um teclado 
Genius ABNT2, e efetuei as seguintes correções:

- A / do teclado alfanumérico não estava funcionando.
- O . do teclado numérico não estava funcionando.

Eu entrarei em contato com o maintainer do console-data para 
efetuar o upload do arquivo (dai para frente é com ele...). 

Mesmo assim segue em anexo o mapa de teclados ABNT 2 corrigido. Para
instala-lo em seu sistema copie o mapa para
/usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty e execute o 
comando loadkeys br-abnt2.
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Re: Correção do mapa de teclados ABNT2 da Potato

2000-04-25 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Encontrei mais um erro: 

- A vírgula no lugar do ponto no teclado numérico. Corrigido.

Creio que não existam mais erros. O mapa de teclados corrigido 
segue em anexo. 

Gleydson Mazioli da Silva wrote:
 
 Pessoal,
 
 Testei o mapa de teclados br-abnt2.kmap da Potato em um teclado
 Genius ABNT2, e efetuei as seguintes correções:
 
 - A / do teclado alfanumérico não estava funcionando.
 - O . do teclado numérico não estava funcionando.
 
 Eu entrarei em contato com o maintainer do console-data para
 efetuar o upload do arquivo (dai para frente é com ele...).
 
 Mesmo assim segue em anexo o mapa de teclados ABNT 2 corrigido. Para
 instala-lo em seu sistema copie o mapa para
 /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty e execute o
 comando loadkeys br-abnt2.
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Acentos no Linux

2000-04-25 Thread Vinicius De Mario
Ola para todos !

Bom, esta historia de acentos ta mesmo confusa. Achei um bookmark no meu
browser para esta pagina do Jefferson Azevedo, que disponibiliza um
script (acentos). Alguem jah experimentou para ver se funciona ? Estou
com a Batata instalada e nao sei se o script dele funcionara (eh para o
slink)

 http://www.poli.org/jeffaz/

Vinicius


Re: Leafnode problem

2000-04-25 Thread kmself
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 10:09:10AM +0100, Christopher Clark wrote:
 After trying and failing to use INN, I removed it using dpkg and installed
 leafnode.  I had to use fetch -f but after that it seemed to work fine when I
 manually kicked it.  But when I added it to my cron.daily job ( su news -c
 /usr/sbin/fetch ) I get: shell-init: could not get current directory: 
 getcwd: cannot access parent directories
 I assume it's a permission thing, possibly leftover from INN but I don't know
 what they should be. Strangely, if I, as root, execute the cron job, it
 seems to work fine. I use slink
 Can anybody help please?

Leafnode is sensitive, to a fault, to directory permissions, and has a
strong tendency to fail either silently or complaining of something else.
IIRC, fetchnews runs effectively (either through a subprocess or other
majick), as user news.  Check permissions on /var/spool/news.  It should
look vaguely like:

drwxr-xr-x  18 news   news 4096 Apr 24 02:47 /var/spool/news

What's your crontab line?  Mine's:

6  0,6,12,18   * * *news /usr/sbin/fetchnews 1/dev/null

...if you're running this out of the system crontab, there's no need to
add the 'su'.   Note I also prefer running fetchnews several times
daily.

...and I'm not familiar with fetch.

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XFree86-4.0 and xauth

2000-04-25 Thread Brian Stults
I upgraded to XFree86-4.0 recently, and now xauth doesn't seem to work. 
I usually use ssh to work on my unix account at work and to do so, I
have a script that looks like this:

ssh REMOTEHOST /usr/openwin/bin/xauth add `grep -e IPADDR
/etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info | gawk -F = '{print $2}'`:0 . `xauth list
LOCALHOST/unix:0 | gawk '{print $3}'`
xterm -e ssh REMOTEHOST 

This basically gets my current IP address from the dhcpcd info, and uses
ssh to add the xauth code for that IP to my list on the remote host. 
However, since I upgraded to 4.0, this doesn't work.  Even if I do it
manually on the remote host, it still doesn't work.  When I try to
execute a program on the remote host with the display exported to my
localhost, I get this:

Xlib: connection to LOCALHOST:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
xterm Xt error: Can't open display: LOCALHOST:0

I assume this is because of the upgrade, but I suppose it could be due
to recent updates in the OpenSSH debian packages.  I'm using woody.  Any
suggestions?  In the meantime I'm using xhost to add the remote host,
but I'm not very comfortable doing that since a lot of people use that
server, and I have to go through the extra steps.  I should emphasize,
that this worked fine a couple weeks ago.

Thanks.

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Apache and PHP

2000-04-25 Thread Yegon
I tried to install a new php 3.0.16-2 package

it wants me to install some libs such as

libz1
libdb2 2.4.14-7

I cannot find them.
How should I proceed, I need a newer php version - at least 3.0.6 to work on
my computer.

Thanks

Yegon


Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Mats Ström

I am trying to get X working on S3 trio3D card. My XFree86 is
version 3.3.6 which supports the trio3D. Unfortunately it is
very picky about its modelines. There some recommended mode-
lines in the manual:
Modeline 1024x768  75  1024 1048 1184 1328  768  771  777  806 -hsync
-vsync
Modeline 640x480  45.80 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -hsync -vsync
Modeline 800x600  36  800  824  896 1024600  601  603  625

The problem is this: I have an old monitor. ERGO: When I attempt
to start X, I get the following:
(--) SVGA: Mode 640x480 needs vert refresh rate of 100.02 Hz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 800x600 needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.

How do I find working modelines for my system? I cant handle the
recommended ones. They demand to much of my grumpy old monitor...
Please help?

//Mats Ström

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Problems - Installing Packages from the A:

2000-04-25 Thread Dulan Tevesh
I'm having problems installing simple packages with debian. I'm currently 
running it on a laptop w/out any internet connectivity, and its only way to 
get packages installed is via the A: floppy - However, every time I go to 
try to install a package, I get a /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/Packages does 
not exist. error, and it refuses to install the package. Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.


Muchas gratias in advance, -Dul

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silly gif/jpg - ascii art question.

2000-04-25 Thread Adam Shand

hey.

i friend wanted me to convert a picture he had into an ascii art image.  the
gimp has an option to export an image to AA format (which i assume is ascii
art??) but it's greyed out.  does anyone know what i have to do to enable
this, i have the aalib stuff installed.

if i am mistaken about the gimp export stuff, does anyone have another good
program to do this?

thanks,
adam.


Re: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Mats Ström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am trying to get X working on S3 trio3D card.  My XFree86 is
 version 3.3.6 which supports the trio3D.

Same here, with a Nanao/EIZO FlexScan L360 monitor.  So far I've only
been able to get XF86_VGA16 to run :-(

 Unfortunately it is very picky about its modelines.  There some
 recommended modelines in the manual:
 [ ... chomp ... ]
 How do I find working modelines for my system?  I cant handle the
 recommended ones.  They demand to much of my grumpy old monitor...
 Please help?

You could try the monitor specs (if you have'm, that is).  I've added
a number of modelines to my XF86Config based on the specs.  That (ever
so slightly) improved the screen appearance, but I still can't get the
XF86_SVGA server to produce anything but a no signal screen. :-(

BTW, when I run XF86Setup without my current XF86Config I get a better
look than running it with.  The latter kind of vibrates, it's as if
there's a number of slightly darker lines moving across the screen.
It's most noticeable before the user interface shows up.  The really
odd thing is that I don't see that behaviour when I `startx`.  Hmm.

For what it's worth:

# XF86Config auto-generated by XF86Setup
# [ ... chomp ...]

Section Monitor
   Identifier  FlexScan
   VendorName  Nanao/EIZO
   ModelName   L360
   HorizSync24-61   #  kHz, from the spec
   VertRefresh  50-85   #  Hz, from the spec
#  VertRefresh  50-75   #  Hz, 1024x768 mode

#  Modelines were compiled from the preset timings in the spec (with
#  help from the XFree86 Video Timings HOWTO).

#  VGA modes
#  @ 59.941 Hz, 31.468 kHz hsync
ModeLine  640x480  25.175   640  656  752  800   480 490 492 525
#  @ 70.087 Hz, 31.468 kHz hsync
ModeLine  720x400  28.322   720  738  846  900   400 412 414 449

#  Macintosh modes
#  @ 66.67 Hz, 35.00 kHz hsync
ModeLine  640x480  30.24640  704  768  864   480 483 486 525
#  @ 74.55 Hz, 49.73 kHz hsync
ModeLine  832x624  57.28832  864  928 1152   624 625 628 667

#  PC-9821 @ 70.15 Hz, 31.50 kHz hsync
ModeLine  640x400  25.197   640  656  720  800   400 413 415 449

#  PC-9801 @ 56.42 Hz, 24.83 kHz hsync
ModeLine  640x400  21.05640  704  768  848   400 407 415 440

#  VESA modes
#  @ 72.81 Hz, 37.86 kHz hsync
ModeLine  640x480  31.5 640  656  696  832   480 481 484 520
#  @ 75.00 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
ModeLine  640x480  31.5 640  656  720  840   480 481 484 500
#  @ 85.01 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
ModeLine  640x480  36.0 640  696  752  832   480 481 484 509
#  @ 56.25 Hz, 35.16 kHz hsync
ModeLine  800x600  36.0 800  824  896 1024   600 601 603 625
#  @ 60.32 Hz, 37.88 kHz hsync
ModeLine  800x600  40.0 800  840  968 1056   600 601 605 628
#  @ 72.19 Hz, 48.08 kHz hsync
ModeLine  800x600  50.0 800  856  976 1040   600 637 643 666
#  @ 75.00 Hz, 46.88 kHz hsync
ModeLine  800x600  49.5 800  816  896 1056   600 601 604 625
#  @ 60.00 Hz, 48.36 kHz hsync
ModeLine 1024x768  65.01024 1048 1184 1344   768 771 777 806
#  @ 70.07 Hz, 56.48 kHz hsync
ModeLine 1024x768  75.01024 1048 1184 1328   768 771 777 806
#  @ 75.03 Hz, 60.02 kHz hsync
ModeLine 1024x768  78.75   1024 1040 1136 1312   768 769 772 800

#  Reliable modes from the XFree86 documentation (or so they say)
ModeLine 1024x768   75 1024 1048 1184 1328   768  771  777  806  -hsync 
-vsync
ModeLine 1280x1024 135 1280 1312 1416 1664  1024 1027 1030 1064
ModeLine  640x480   45.80   640  672  768  864   480  488  494  530  -hsync 
-vsync
ModeLine  800x600   36  800  824  896 1024   600  601  603  625

#  Modelines from XF86Setup
#  Modeline  640x48025.18 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525
#  Modeline  320x24025.18 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 doublescan

EndSection

Section Device
   Identifier   Generic VGA
   VendorName   Unknown
   BoardNameUnknown
   Chipset  generic
EndSection

Section Device
   Identifier  S3 Trio3D
   VendorName  S3
   BoardName   Trio3D
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  SVGA
   Device  S3 Trio3D
   Monitor FlexScan
   DefaultColorDepth 8
   SubSection Display
  Depth8
  Modes640x480
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth15
  Modes640x480
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth16
  Modes640x480
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth24
  Modes640x480
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth32
  Modes640x480
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  VGA16
   Device  S3 Trio3D
   Monitor FlexScan
   SubSection Display
  Depth4
  Modes640x480
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  VGA2
   Device  S3 Trio3D
   Monitor FlexScan
   SubSection Display
  Depth1
  Modes640x480
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  Mono
   Device  S3 Trio3D

Re: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Mats Ström
On 25 Apr 2000, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:

 Mats Ström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I am trying to get X working on S3 trio3D card.  My XFree86 is
  version 3.3.6 which supports the trio3D.
 
 Same here, with a Nanao/EIZO FlexScan L360 monitor.  So far I've only
 been able to get XF86_VGA16 to run :-(

If you have XFree86 version 3.3.6 or 4.0 you can get it to work. The 3.3.6
has support for trio3d in the SVGA server, and the 4.0 has support in the
S3V server. Its all in the manuals on www.xfree86.org. =)

Now I just need to figure out my modeline problem... =)

//Mats Ström

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Re: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Mats Ström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 25 Apr 2000, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
 
  Mats Ström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   I am trying to get X working on S3 trio3D card.  My XFree86 is
   version 3.3.6 which supports the trio3D.
  
  Same here, with a Nanao/EIZO FlexScan L360 monitor.  So far I've only
  been able to get XF86_VGA16 to run :-(
 
 If you have XFree86 version 3.3.6 or 4.0 you can get it to work. The 3.3.6
 has support for trio3d in the SVGA server, and the 4.0 has support in the
 S3V server. Its all in the manuals on www.xfree86.org. =)

I know it should work and that's what's buggering me!  When I try with
the SVGA server all I draw is a blank.  The screen turns black and
after a few seconds the monitor seems to go into power saving mode.  I
kill the server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) and the monitor comes back to
live (the screen gets a bit blacker, that's how I can tell) and then
gives me the console again.

For reference:

XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: January 8 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.14 i586 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 1):
  [ ... chomp ... ]
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) XKB: model: jp106
(**) XKB: layout: jp
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psaux, resolution: 100
(**) Mouse: buttons: 3, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: S3 Trio3D
(**) SVGA: Monitor ID: FlexScan
(--) SVGA: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 640x480 needs vert refresh rate of 100.02 Hz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kaname
(--) SVGA: PCI: S3 Trio3D rev 1, Memory @ 0xf400
(--) SVGA: S3V: Trio3D rev 1, Linear FB @ 0xf400
(--) SVGA: Detected S3 Trio3D
(--) SVGA: using driver for chipset s3_virge
(--) SVGA: videoram:  4096k
(--) SVGA: Ramdac speed: 230 MHz
(--) SVGA: Detected current MCLK value of 75.170 MHz
(--) SVGA: chipset:  s3_virge
(--) SVGA: videoram: 4096k
(**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666
(--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 230.000 MHz
(**) SVGA: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  36.000
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 640x480
(--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
(--) SVGA: s3_virge: Using hardware cursor
(--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
(--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles
(--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy
(--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 pattern fill
(--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 color expand pattern fill
(--) SVGA: XAA: CPU to screen color expansion (bitmap, TE/NonTE imagetext, 
TE/NonTE polytext)
(--) SVGA: XAA: Using 5 128x128 areas for pixmap caching
(--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and non-transparent stipples
(--) SVGA: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segments
xinit:  connection to X server lost.

waiting for X server to shut down 

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RE: Problems - Installing Packages from the A:

2000-04-25 Thread Steven Satelle
try copyong th package to your hard drv first

-Original Message-
From: Dulan Tevesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 April 2000 01:19
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problems - Installing Packages from the A:


I'm having problems installing simple packages with debian. I'm currently
running it on a laptop w/out any internet connectivity, and its only way to
get packages installed is via the A: floppy - However, every time I go to
try to install a package, I get a /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/Packages does
not exist. error, and it refuses to install the package. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Muchas gratias in advance, -Dul

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[no subject]

2000-04-25 Thread Steven Satelle
simple question, where do you put lines for  the modules you want to
autoload in debian? ie my winmodem and audio device


RE: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Steven Satelle
check your settings for the moniter vert  horiz frequencies

-Original Message-
From: Olaf Meeuwissen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 April 2000 02:03
To: Mats Ström
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Xproblem - modelines?


Mats Ström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 25 Apr 2000, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:

  Mats Ström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   I am trying to get X working on S3 trio3D card.  My XFree86 is
   version 3.3.6 which supports the trio3D.
 
  Same here, with a Nanao/EIZO FlexScan L360 monitor.  So far I've only
  been able to get XF86_VGA16 to run :-(

 If you have XFree86 version 3.3.6 or 4.0 you can get it to work. The 3.3.6
 has support for trio3d in the SVGA server, and the 4.0 has support in the
 S3V server. Its all in the manuals on www.xfree86.org. =)

I know it should work and that's what's buggering me!  When I try with
the SVGA server all I draw is a blank.  The screen turns black and
after a few seconds the monitor seems to go into power saving mode.  I
kill the server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) and the monitor comes back to
live (the screen gets a bit blacker, that's how I can tell) and then
gives me the console again.

For reference:

XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: January 8 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.14 i586 [ELF]
Configured drivers:
  SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 1):
  [ ... chomp ... ]
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) XKB: model: jp106
(**) XKB: layout: jp
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psaux, resolution: 100
(**) Mouse: buttons: 3, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: S3 Trio3D
(**) SVGA: Monitor ID: FlexScan
(--) SVGA: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 640x480 needs vert refresh rate of 100.02 Hz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic:un
scaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Spee
do,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/l
ib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/font
s/kaname
(--) SVGA: PCI: S3 Trio3D rev 1, Memory @ 0xf400
(--) SVGA: S3V: Trio3D rev 1, Linear FB @ 0xf400
(--) SVGA: Detected S3 Trio3D
(--) SVGA: using driver for chipset s3_virge
(--) SVGA: videoram:  4096k
(--) SVGA: Ramdac speed: 230 MHz
(--) SVGA: Detected current MCLK value of 75.170 MHz
(--) SVGA: chipset:  s3_virge
(--) SVGA: videoram: 4096k
(**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666
(--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 230.000 MHz
(**) SVGA: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  36.000
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 640x480
(--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
(--) SVGA: s3_virge: Using hardware cursor
(--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
(--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles
(--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy
(--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 pattern fill
(--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 color expand pattern fill
(--) SVGA: XAA: CPU to screen color expansion (bitmap, TE/NonTE imagetext,
TE/NonTE polytext)
(--) SVGA: XAA: Using 5 128x128 areas for pixmap caching
(--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and non-transparent stipples
(--) SVGA: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segments
xinit:  connection to X server lost.

waiting for X server to shut down

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Re: Netscape

2000-04-25 Thread Maury R . Merkin
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:24:22 Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:
 
 Try
 apt-get install navigator-smotif-472 netscape-java-472 \
   navigator-nethelp-472 fortify
 
 as root. If your apt/sources.list is configured correct (frozen/potato
 or unstable/woody) you should after some time and some questions to
 fortify navigator (= patch it to 128-bit cryptography) be able to surf
 ahead.
 
Hi Joachim,

Could you possibly describe a correctly configured apt/sources.list 
file?  I installed potato just a couple of days ago and also need 
Netscape for on-line banking.  I have an apt/sources.list but most of 
the entries are commented out.  I have no idea which to uncomment.

Tia, 

Maury




Re: Modules name resolution

2000-04-25 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 03:02:42PM +0200, Kovacs Istvan wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I've just installed potato, re-compiled the kernel, and now (some of)
 my modules will not auto-load. I can load them with modprobe and/or
 insmod. I have to load the driver for my Initio SCSI card, SB AWE32
 sound card and RTL8019-based NIC by hand. The question is: why? And of
 course: how do I correct the situation?

I assume you compiled a 2.2.x series.  You have to use kmod, which must
be enabled when you build the kernel.  It doesn't remove modules though,
so you need a cron script.  See linux/Documentation/kmod.txt for more
info.

 Also: how (and where) do I supply module parameters for auto-loading?
 To load my NIC driver, I have to issue insmod ne io=0x340 irq=10 --
 where do I put this info so I don't need to supply it every time? I use
 kmod, not kerneld.
 In /etc/modutils/aliases, I inserted the following for the sound card:
 ---
 # SB AWE
 alias midi awe_wave
 post-install awe_wave /usr/bin/sfxload /usr/synthfm.sbk
 options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
 alias sound sb
 ---
 
 Is this okay?

Can't tell you if the options or post-install are okay, but you have to
run 'update-modules' after editing /etc/modutils/aliases.  It writes
your changes to /etc/modules.conf which is the file that is referenced
when loading modules.

 
 Another question: I used pppconfig to set up my dialup Internet
 connection. I supplied the IP address of the ISP's name server, which
 was properly placed in /etc/resolv.conf. nslookup works okay, but
 nothing else: ping and browsers cannot resolve names. Everything works
 when IP addresses are given instead of names.

Did you tell pppconfig to use the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf or to
use the dynamically assigned ones by your ISP (if it does this).  In the
first case, ppp does nothing special.  In the latter case, it
temporarily moves /etc/resolv.conf, replacing it with a file containing
the nameserver addresses provided by the ISP.  When the link goes down,
it reverses this process.  Rerun pppconfig to see what you did.  Also,
did you tell it to set the default route?  Look under the Advanced
option of pppconfig for some of these items.

 (I'll download the how-to documents today, promise. :-)

Won't help you with pppconfig.  Usually, it's just 'cause you missed
something though.  That tool works great!

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ntfs mounting

2000-04-25 Thread Steven Satelle
Hi, does anyone know how to mount a ntfs partition in linux, i have
installed the ntfs modules but linuxconf only lists my msdos filesystem not
my ntfs or fat32 file syses, what lines do i need to add to fstab so they
are automounted on boot


Re: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Mats Ström
On 25 Apr 2000, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:

 I know it should work and that's what's buggering me!  When I try with
 the SVGA server all I draw is a blank.  The screen turns black and
 after a few seconds the monitor seems to go into power saving mode.  I
 kill the server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) and the monitor comes back to
 live (the screen gets a bit blacker, that's how I can tell) and then
 gives me the console again.

Sounds like you have my problem then. My monitor cant handle the high
sync and refresh rates the modelines demand, so it goes into powersaving.
It shuts down. Lets just hope someone has a solution...

//Mats Ström
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RE: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Mats Ström
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Steven Satelle wrote:

 check your settings for the moniter vert  horiz frequencies

I think I safely can say that we tried that... The problem is that
our monitors simply cant handle vert  horiz frequencies that high.

//Mats Ström

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Re: update-alternatives: bug or misunderstanding?

2000-04-25 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 11:21:25AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
 However, that's not how it seems to work on potato.  I noticed that
 after the installation I got /etc/alternatives/awk pointing to
 /usr/bin/mawk and /etc/alternatives/awk.1.gz pointing to
 /usr/man/man1/mawk.1.gz.  Since I prefer gawk, I did (as root)
 
 update-alternatives --config /usr/bin/awk awk /usr/bin/gawk

You left out the slave link for the man pages, hence they weren't
updated.  Reread that alternatives man page (yes, it's confusing).

I think: update-alternatives --config /usr/bin/awk awk /usr/bin/gawk \
/usr/share/man/man1/gawk.1.gz

 That in fact changed the /etc/alternatives/awk link to point to gawk,
 but it left the manpage link pointing to mawk.1!  The same thing
 happened again when I wanted to change the etags alternative (to point
 to the Exuberant version).
 
 I ended up changing the manpage links by hand.  Is that safe or will
 it confuse the system even more?
 
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 Lightbinders, Inc.
 2325 3rd Street #324, San Francisco, California 94107
 
 
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RE: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Steven Satelle
what are the vert/horiz frequencies?

-Original Message-
From: Mats Ström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 April 2000 02:34
To: Steven Satelle
Cc: 'Olaf Meeuwissen'; 'Debian User List'
Subject: RE: Xproblem - modelines?


On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Steven Satelle wrote:

 check your settings for the moniter vert  horiz frequencies

I think I safely can say that we tried that... The problem is that
our monitors simply cant handle vert  horiz frequencies that high.

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Re: your mail

2000-04-25 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 02:08:10AM +0100, Steven Satelle wrote:
 simple question, where do you put lines for  the modules you want to
 autoload in debian? ie my winmodem and audio device

You have a winmodem that works with Linux? Congrats! Anyway modules that
you want loaded at boot and to remain loaded go in /etc/modules.  The
ordering can sometimes matter there.

# /etc/modules
sound
ad1848
uart401
cs4232

for zee onboard Crystal Audio ...

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RE: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Mats Ström
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Steven Satelle wrote:

 what are the vert/horiz frequencies?

My monitor is noninterlaced SVGA 1025x768 at 60Hz capaple of
31.5-48.5 Horizontal55-90 Vertical

The by XF86 supplied modelines demand:
1024x768hsync freq 56.48 kHzvert refresh rate 70.07 Hz
800x600 hsync freq 35.16 kHzvert refresh rate 56.25 Hz
640x480 hsync freq 53.01 kHzvert refresh rate 100.02 Hz

I need to find modelines for the card that doen't demand a
brand new monitor. =)

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NFS re-export crashes client

2000-04-25 Thread Andy Roosen
I figure this has to be as good a forum as any to start with :).
Potato machine 'ruth' is re-exporting some directories served by
an SGI O200 using the userspace NFS daemon to 'r001'. Whenever
a process on r001 tries to read certain 'cluttered' directories
(like most well-used home directories), however, it fills all
memory and dies. Strace on r001 shows an endless series of 'getdents',
while strace on ruth shows just two (typically). On one test, it
crashed r001 and wedged the nfs daemon on ruth. I'd have just filed
a bug report, but I can't decide who's bug it might be :).

Some background as to why I want to do this:
I've got a small cluster (r00[1-5]) of diskless systems booting 2.2.14
from a ruth, and mounting root from it as well. Since
they are only intended to be a compute farm, the only 'outside'
network connection is via the ruth, and you must log into
ruth before continuing on into the nodes. This is so that they
can communicate with each other quickly and easily with few
security checks on that subnet (set up as 192.168.0.x). Home
directories and data files are stored on an SGI O200. It is
convenient to mount those on the cluster nodes, and the easiest
way I see to do it is to have the master re-export the home directory
mountpoints to the cluster using the user-space NFS server (file
access speed isn't particularly important, since the bulk of 
compute jobs are CPU and memory limited).

Thanks for any suggestions,
Andy Roosen

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problem with installation program

2000-04-25 Thread Steven Burns
Dear Linux users:

I am attempting to install Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 from the CD that
accompanies the book: Learning Debian GNU/Linux (Bill McCarty, O'Reilly,

Sebastopol, Sept 99, 1st ed.).  The problem I am currently having is
that I cannot get the installation program to start.

It would seem that the problem relates to the last message displayed:
NCR53c406a: no available ports found.  See below.

So far, I've looked into the problem as follows.
1.  I've looked at the Help items accessed by pressing F1 while the
below Welcome screen is up, but none of these items seems relevant.
2.  I've spent some time looking at the debian website (www.debian.org),

but haven't found anything relevant there either.
3.  I did internet searches with several search engines and the the
search text, NCR53c406a: no available ports found.  Snap.com returned
some webpages relating to boot arguments for scsi peripherals.  I
looked at some of these, but didn't find any information applicable to
my situation.  Furthermore, my computer does NOT contain any scsi
components, so it seems strange that the problem should relate to scsi.

I would very much appreciate any insights or suggestions that would help

me clear this hurdle.

Sincerely,

Steven

P.S. See details below.
---

The sequence of events that lead to the failure of the installation
program follows.  (The failure is repeatable on my system.)

1.  Boot the computer from the debian CD.
2.  The Welcome screen appears.
Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux 2.1!
  ...

This disk uses Linux 2.2.12 (from
kernel-image-2.2.12_2.2.12-1)

Press F1 for help, or ENTER to boot!
boot:
3.  Press Enter.
4.  A series of messages scroll up the screen and then stop.  The
following is the list of messages that remains on the screen.

Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: UNIX somain sockeds 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocol: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Detected PS/2 Mouse port.
RAM Disk Driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 1096 K size
loop: registered device at major 7
PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 39, VID=1022,
DID=7409
PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0x007, BIOS settings: hda: DMA, hdb: pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc: DMA, hdb: pio
hda: Maxtor 91531U3, ATA Disk drive
hdc: ATAPI 48x CDROM, ATAPI CDROM Drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15
hda: Maxtor 91531U3, 14655MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=1868/255/63
hdc: ATAPI 48x CD ROM Drive, 128 kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.55
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
NCR53c406a: no available ports found


The computer I'm using has the following components.

CPU:  AMD Athlon 600 MHz CPU

MOTHERBOARD:  Micro-Star AMD Athlon K7-PRO Motherboard w/ UDMA

FLOPPY:  Mitsumi 1.44 MB Floppy Drive
CD:  48x EIDE CD-ROM
HARD DRIVE:  Maxtor 15.3 GB 5400 UDMA Hard Drive  (Windows 98 is
installed on a 7326MB partition.  The rest of the disk (7327MB) is free
space.)

MEMORY:  128 MB SDRAM PC100
MODEM: 3-COM US Robotics 56k V.90 Fax Modem w/ voice speaker phone

NETWORK CARD:  PCI 32 bit 10/100 Network Card
SOUND CARD:  Creative Lab Sound Blaster PCI 128 Vibra Sound
VIDEO CARD:  Matrox G400 32MB SGRAM AGP

MONITOR:  Sceptre Dragon Eye .27
KEYBOARD:  PS2 108 key Windows 98 Keyboard
MOUSE: PS2 Mouse
SPEAKERS:  120 Watt Stereo Speakers
--

End.




control panel/installation tool

2000-04-25 Thread Dennis Gearon
I was wondering if there was a control pane or version/package
monitoring system that made installs a little less painful. Sure, it's
great to use and know the guts of the worlds best OS, but I'd rather USE

it to make money or show off great content as a server. It's cool, But I

don't want to hire a cadre of programmers or always spend time on the
learning curve. I got customers to talk to.

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Re: control panel/installation tool

2000-04-25 Thread Eric G . Miller
rant Sending this mail to the list alone is sufficient. /rant

On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 07:36:23PM -0700, Dennis Gearon wrote:
 I was wondering if there was a control pane or version/package
 monitoring system that made installs a little less painful. Sure, it's
 great to use and know the guts of the worlds best OS, but I'd rather USE

Not really sure what you're after.  Installs are kind of a pain, it
helps when you have a firm grip on your hardware, and a few installs
under your belt.  The Debian install process basically starts with a
small base system, a reboot from hard disk, then install of the rest of
the packages.  Dpkg is pretty verbose when it installs software, it's
just not gooey.  Debian has a package/version numbering scheme.  In
fact, the quality of the debian packages/packaging system is one of its
primary selling points.  But, I don't see how it has a lot to do with an
initial installation (other than the distribution version).
  
 it to make money or show off great content as a server. It's cool, But I
 
 don't want to hire a cadre of programmers or always spend time on the
 learning curve. I got customers to talk to.

Well, hire at least one competent Unix/Linux sysadmin, and everything'll
be roses.

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truetype font encoding shift?

2000-04-25 Thread w trillich
i converted a couple truetype fonts from mac format
(via mac application 'tt converter') to pc format,
and sent them to the debian box.

works like a charm, except the encoding seems to have
slipped two characters, rather consistently...
ABCDE becomes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xyz becomes vwx

any ideas?


Re: problem with installation program

2000-04-25 Thread Geopoliticus

Steve,

I had a similar problem when trying to install the EXACT same CD from my 
book.  I do however have SCSI peripherals.  What I eventually ended up 
doing was downloading Debian off of the net and it is now running great!  I 
know that is not what you are looking for.  Something I ran across however 
is a jumper on my CD ROM.  It is labeled Block.  This jumper, if set, 
told the controller that it was dealing with a UNIX block device.  If your 
CD ROM has a jumper like this try setting it the opposite of what it is 
currently set at.  You may have some success.  Good luck.


Geo

At 09:42 PM 4/24/00 -0500, Steven Burns wrote:

Dear Linux users:

I am attempting to install Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 from the CD that
accompanies the book: Learning Debian GNU/Linux (Bill McCarty, O'Reilly,

Sebastopol, Sept 99, 1st ed.).  The problem I am currently having is
that I cannot get the installation program to start.

It would seem that the problem relates to the last message displayed:
NCR53c406a: no available ports found.  See below.

So far, I've looked into the problem as follows.
1.  I've looked at the Help items accessed by pressing F1 while the
below Welcome screen is up, but none of these items seems relevant.
2.  I've spent some time looking at the debian website (www.debian.org),

but haven't found anything relevant there either.
3.  I did internet searches with several search engines and the the
search text, NCR53c406a: no available ports found.  Snap.com returned
some webpages relating to boot arguments for scsi peripherals.  I
looked at some of these, but didn't find any information applicable to
my situation.  Furthermore, my computer does NOT contain any scsi
components, so it seems strange that the problem should relate to scsi.

I would very much appreciate any insights or suggestions that would help

me clear this hurdle.

Sincerely,

Steven

P.S. See details below.
---

The sequence of events that lead to the failure of the installation
program follows.  (The failure is repeatable on my system.)

1.  Boot the computer from the debian CD.
2.  The Welcome screen appears.
Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux 2.1!
  ...

This disk uses Linux 2.2.12 (from
kernel-image-2.2.12_2.2.12-1)

Press F1 for help, or ENTER to boot!
boot:
3.  Press Enter.
4.  A series of messages scroll up the screen and then stop.  The
following is the list of messages that remains on the screen.

Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: UNIX somain sockeds 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocol: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Detected PS/2 Mouse port.
RAM Disk Driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 1096 K size
loop: registered device at major 7
PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 39, VID=1022,
DID=7409
PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0x007, BIOS settings: hda: DMA, hdb: pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc: DMA, hdb: pio
hda: Maxtor 91531U3, ATA Disk drive
hdc: ATAPI 48x CDROM, ATAPI CDROM Drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15
hda: Maxtor 91531U3, 14655MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=1868/255/63
hdc: ATAPI 48x CD ROM Drive, 128 kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.55
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
NCR53c406a: no available ports found


The computer I'm using has the following components.

CPU:  AMD Athlon 600 MHz CPU

MOTHERBOARD:  Micro-Star AMD Athlon K7-PRO Motherboard w/ UDMA

FLOPPY:  Mitsumi 1.44 MB Floppy Drive
CD:  48x EIDE CD-ROM
HARD DRIVE:  Maxtor 15.3 GB 5400 UDMA Hard Drive  (Windows 98 is
installed on a 7326MB partition.  The rest of the disk (7327MB) is free
space.)

MEMORY:  128 MB SDRAM PC100
MODEM: 3-COM US Robotics 56k V.90 Fax Modem w/ voice speaker phone

NETWORK CARD:  PCI 32 bit 10/100 Network Card
SOUND CARD:  Creative Lab Sound Blaster PCI 128 Vibra Sound
VIDEO CARD:  Matrox G400 32MB SGRAM AGP

MONITOR:  Sceptre Dragon Eye .27
KEYBOARD:  PS2 108 key Windows 98 Keyboard
MOUSE: PS2 Mouse
SPEAKERS:  120 Watt Stereo Speakers
--

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Re: Problems - Installing Packages from the A:

2000-04-25 Thread David Z. Maze
Dulan Tevesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DT I'm having problems installing simple packages with debian. I'm
DT currently running it on a laptop w/out any internet connectivity, and
DT its only way to get packages installed is via the A: floppy -

What's an A: floppy?  If you mean floppy disk on /dev/fd0 with a
FAT filesystem mounted on /mnt, then...

DT However, every time I go to try to install a package, I get a
DT /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/Packages does not exist. error, and it
DT refuses to install the package. Any help would be greatly
DT appreciated.

How are you trying to install the package?  dselect is overkill here,
and it's difficult to convince it to work on a package it's not
getting from its normal sources.  (And it sounds like dselect is
broken to boot; you probably want to download and install the 'apt'
package and use it as your dselect backend.)  Something along the
lines of 'dpkg --install /mnt/foo_1.2-3.deb' should work quite nicely
from the shell prompt as root.  'dpkg --help' will give you a (long)
summary of dpkg's options; more information can be found in dpkg(8).

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module errors

2000-04-25 Thread Pollywog
I just started getting these errors after updating potato:

Apr 25 03:17:00 lilypad insmod: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more
recent than /lib/modules/2.2.14/modules.dep
Apr 25 03:17:00 lilypad insmod: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more
recent than /lib/modules/2.2.14/modules.dep
Apr 25 03:17:00 lilypad insmod: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more
recent than /lib/modules/2.2.14/modules.dep
Apr 25 03:17:00 lilypad insmod: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more
recent than /lib/modules/2.2.14/modules.dep

I ran update-modules but I still get the errors.
How can I fix this, and is it a bug?

thanks

--
Andrew



Long time Debian user with semi-technical question

2000-04-25 Thread Andrew Weiss
I have been using Debian since the old A.out days of Debian 1.0, and I was
wondering since I am doing development of our company's own Linux
distribution based on Debian... I have potato as the base and am beginning
to customize and modify it, but haven't really yet... other than Windowmaker
graphics and WDM graphics..

Is it OK to carefully modify /var/lib/dpkg/status?

I need to basically stave off dselect because every time I do an alien
package or just something that isn't in the Packages.gz file.  I haven't
built all binary CD's yet... just the first... though that will change.

It goes in and gives me dependency conflict, then decides it wants to remove
my stuff.  I Give it a big Fat capital R and then Q to force it not to do
that, but I'd like it not to decide these things on its own.  I've had some
luck in the past directly modifying the status file, but sometimes it
doesn't work.  Is there any way to modify deb packages to change their
dependencies since some of the packages are plain stupid... they depend on
perl for instance and I have perl5.005, so I end up doing a dpkg -i
--force-depends... which works, but if you go into dselect afterwards it
wants to remove perl5.005 because it conflicts with the nonexistant package
perl, and decides to remove about half my system (lots of things depend on
perl) which I refuse the changes and force quit the dependency checker back
to the menu.  I'd love to say NO IT DOESN't DEPEND ON THAT PACKAGE YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] now install and don't talk to me again!  KDE stuff wouldn't go
on because it wanted stdc++2.9, and it was too stupid to realize 2.10 was
newer... I had to force each and every kde package... it worked too, but I
gave up on keeping kde because every time I wanted to add new packages it
wanted to kill kde.  This is my only complaint about Debian, but it needs to
have this feature... a checkbox for are you really sure you want to modify
dependencies... (this may break...blah blah)...disclaimer, but let you do
it.  Those of us customizing Debian to strange hardware need a bit more
freedom with this.

Anyone...?

Andrew


server usage

2000-04-25 Thread Dennis Gearon
Anyone set up Debian with MySQL and either Zope or Midgard?

Does anyone use and/or have comments about using RPM'd applications on
Debian? (that's Redhat Package Manager, there's a lot of apps in that
format).

Can additional source files for applications be included into some kind
of master Deb packaging system, so it's rev level's are checked against
dependencies?


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Re: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread mtellez
Hi Olaf, I don't what is wrong with the floppy installation method but,
Why don't you use PLIP for install the packages? Is a lot faster than
floppy. In linux gazette
(http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue43/lg_toc43.html) are a great article
about that. I hope this can help you. 


Re: Long time Debian user with semi-technical question

2000-04-25 Thread dstarner98
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 12:02:36AM -0400, Andrew Weiss wrote:
 Is it OK to carefully modify /var/lib/dpkg/status?

It should be unnessecary.

 doesn't work.  Is there any way to modify deb packages to change their
 dependencies since some of the packages are plain stupid... they depend on
 perl for instance and I have perl5.005, so I end up doing a dpkg -i
 --force-depends... which works, but if you go into dselect afterwards it

They shouldn't depend on perl. If anything depends on Perl in Potato,
that's a RC bug. You need to do a full upgrade to Potato for everything
to work, though.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] now install and don't talk to me again!  KDE stuff wouldn't 
 go
 on because it wanted stdc++2.9, and it was too stupid to realize 2.10 was
 newer... I had to force each and every kde package... it worked too, but I

Um.. no. I don't know why it worked - you must have a copy of libstdc++2.9
somewhere around, but libstdc++2.10 is (a) not binary compatible with 2.9
and (b) wouldn't satisfy the runtime dependency of 2.9. Any program that
depends on libstdc++2.9 without it installed should have failed to run,
with a missing library dependency.

If you still have anything about, do ldd on it, and it should show you where
that erstz libstdc++2.9 is hiding.

 it.  Those of us customizing Debian to strange hardware need a bit more
 freedom with this.
 
 Anyone...?

If you need to modify dependencies, I mean really need to modify 
depenedencies, download the source and edit debian/control. In both your
examples, there are better ways than hacking dependencies.

-- 
David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The hell that is supposed out there could be no worse than
the hell that is sometimes seen in here.


Re: Long time Debian user with semi-technical question

2000-04-25 Thread Steve Greenland
On 24-Apr-00, 23:02 (CDT), Andrew Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I have been using Debian since the old A.out days of Debian 1.0, and I was
 wondering since I am doing development of our company's own Linux
 distribution based on Debian... I have potato as the base and am beginning
 to customize and modify it, but haven't really yet... other than Windowmaker
 graphics and WDM graphics..
 
 Is it OK to carefully modify /var/lib/dpkg/status?

Along with what David Starner said, you might also want to check out
the equivs package. It's not the away around the perl problem (as he
wrote, nothing should depend on perl, but it may help with your other
problems.


Problem upgrading gtk

2000-04-25 Thread mtellez
Hi, I am using slink for a while, but now I tried to upgrade manually
(I go to debian package homepage, select a package to download, and
download all the dependences) to  potato. I started for upgrade window
maker and because of it I have to download several packeges, mostly
graphical libraries. After it work, I tried to upgrade gtk, but when I
finished it didn't work. This is the list of packages I download for
gtk:
autoconf_2.13-20.deb imlib1_1.9.8-4.deb
automake_1.4-8.deb   libglib1.2_1.2.7-2.deb
gdk-imlib1_1.9.8-4.deb   libgtk1.2-dev_1.2.7-1.deb
gettext-base_0.10.35-13.deb  libgtk1.2-doc_1.2.7-1.deb
gettext_0.10.35-13.deb   libgtk1.2_1.2.7-1.deb
glade_0.5.7-1.debm4_1.4-10.deb
gqview_0.7.0e1-1.deb xlib6g-dev_3.3.6-6.deb
imlib-base_1.9.8-4.deb

If I run: gtk-config --version   it show: 1.2.7 but when I tried to
compile something that use gtk a message say that I have gtk 1.0.x. If
I tried to dpkg --purge gtk1.0.x I get the message of several programs
depend on it. Can somebody help me?


Potato it is!

2000-04-25 Thread montefin
Thanks for the advice to my earlier Frozen, Potato or Woody? post.

I've decided to take all of it. I ordered a 4-pack of Frozen CD's _and_,
while they're enroute I'm going to get my feet wet with apt-get and
potato.

I've moved stuff around on my little 814Mb hard drive and made 208Mb
available in /usr. Tomorrow, I plan to temporarily mount /var/cache/apt
inside /usr and direct apt-get there.

Question #1: Will 208Mb be enough? I ran 'apt-get update' and it built
the tree. I ran 'apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade' and it showed unmet
depenencies for w3m only.  w3m needs three of the libraries coming with
the upgrade. I forced 'apt-get --simulate -f dist-upgrade' and it ran
with it, showing the 383 Upgrades, 63 new Installs, 30 Removals, and 14
Hold Backs it plans to do.

_But_, apt-get didn't give me any idea of how much /var/apt/cache it
needs to do its magic.

Question #2: I think I've read here several times that apt-get can
predict cache usage, but I've never seen a command or option to tell it
to, and I can't find any in the man pages or docs. Is there?

Question #3: I'm only downloading the i386 binaries, not the sources.
But, even if 208Mb of cache is enough, is robbing /usr to pay /var an
exercise in futility? In other words, is /usr going to simultaneously
need that space that /var is borrowing, in order to recieve the 63
installs, have 383 of it's current packages Upgraded _and_ 30 of them
Removed? Or, is there some capability built into apt that can
choreograph all that?

Thanks for the good advice already, hoping for more,

montefin


find running in the backgound

2000-04-25 Thread Mike Cook
Once a day, I hear my hard drive making a lot of noise, so i ran top and
discovered it was find running. What is its purpose and how can
I disable it?

Thanks


Re: server usage

2000-04-25 Thread kmself
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 09:27:35PM -0700, Dennis Gearon wrote:
 Anyone set up Debian with MySQL and either Zope or Midgard?
 
 Does anyone use and/or have comments about using RPM'd applications on
 Debian? (that's Redhat Package Manager, there's a lot of apps in that
 format).

Speakable comments?

Use alien.  That's what it's for.  Trying to remember if RPMs are
installed under /usr or /usr/local.

 Can additional source files for applications be included into some kind
 of master Deb packaging system, so it's rev level's are checked against
 dependencies?

Sorry?  What's the question?

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Re: find running in the backgound

2000-04-25 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 01:32:54AM -0500, Mike Cook wrote:
 Once a day, I hear my hard drive making a lot of noise, so i ran top
 and discovered it was find running. What is its purpose and how can I
 disable it?
 
 Thanks

That's the 'updatedb' cron script running. You probably don't want to
disable it, it keeps an index of files for things like locate to use.
Maybe, just have it run at a different time of day. See
/etc/cron.daily/find . Read man cron, crontab if you're unsure how to
set the time of day.

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Re: find running in the backgound

2000-04-25 Thread Robert Waldner
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:32:54 CDT, Mike Cook writes:
Once a day, I hear my hard drive making a lot of noise, so i ran top and
discovered it was find running. What is its purpose and how can
I disable it?

That´s probably updatedb running updating your locatedb :)

It is called via /etc/cron.daily/find [1]. If your filesystem-entries don´t
change that much, you could move this file to /etc/cron.weekly or
something like that. Removing it would require you to manually run updatedb
prior to locate if you nedd accurate results...

hth,
rw

1: On my halfway potato system.


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Re: find running in the backgound

2000-04-25 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Mike Cook wrote:

 Once a day, I hear my hard drive making a lot of noise, so i ran top and
 discovered it was find running. What is its purpose and how can
 I disable it?

You probably don't want to do that, it is updating your locate database.
See man locate for more info.

- Bruce


procmailproblems

2000-04-25 Thread Mithrandir
Hi all ;))

I have some problems with procmail, it will not deliver the mail as wanted,
does anyone can help please?? as attachment there is my .procmailrc.
The user doesn't get any mails anymore :((
The procmail is installed with sendmail and called through the .forward with
|exec /usr/bin/procmail the basesystem is debian woody

Greetings and many thanks

Mithrandir

output of the message which root becomes:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:52:09 +0200
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem MAILER-DAEMON
To: postmaster
Subject: Postmaster notify: see transcript for details
Parts/Attachments:
1 Shown 10 lines  Text
2 Shown372 bytes  Message, Delivery Status
3 Shown 13 lines  Text
-

The original message was received at Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:52:09 +0200
from localhost
with id e3OJq9d02137

- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 550 Host unknown)

- Transcript of session follows -
550 5.1.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Host
unknown (Name server: mail.rrze.uni-erlangen.de: host not found)

[ Part 2: Delivery Status ]

Reporting-MTA: dns; luthien.valinor
Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost
Arrival-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:52:09 +0200

Final-Recipient: RFC822;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.2
Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.rrze.uni-erlangen.de
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Host unknown
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:52:09 +0200

Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON
Received: from localhost (localhost)
by luthien.valinor (8.10.0/8.10.0/Debian 8.10.0-1) id e3OJq9d02137;
Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:52:09 +0200
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:52:09 +0200
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem MAILER-DAEMON
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
boundary=e3OJq9d02137.956605929/luthien.valinor
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)


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486/slink networked with?

2000-04-25 Thread russell simmons
I am a newbie, and I have a base install of slink running on a 486 dx33
with a 210 mb hd and 12 mgs of ram.  I am going to network it with my
main box soon.  This box is a dual boot windoz/linux install, 166 mmx
overclocked to 200 with a 5.2 gb hd (1gb for linux), and 96 mgs of ram.
   I was running mandrake 6.0, but I have rh 6.1 at present.  I
want to replace it with debian.  Would slink be the best choice for
compatability issues, or would potato be the wiser choice.
tia
russell


Re: how do you set your system clock from a remote time server?

2000-04-25 Thread Harry ten Berge
Chris Mason wrote:
 
 Where can I get nptdate?
 

It's in 'xntp3'. ntpdate is a part of the complete 'time server suite'.
Usually 'ntpdate' is only used to synchronize if you have big
time-differences. The ntpd can only synchronize if the difference
between the local client and the time-server is less than 1024 seconds.
So installation using Debian will ask you if you want to use ntpdate
once (only when the system is starting up...). The rest will be done by
the daemon. It works great...


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HELP: Linux die with cann't get free page message

2000-04-25 Thread Alex V. Toropov
Hi all
Today at morning, when I come to my Linux (Debian stable) machine
it was dead. All the screen was fill up with cann't get free page messages
(May be something like that).
I doesn't react on anything.
So I had to hard reset mashine. Now it's running on as usual.

But I can't understand what had happened. I look through all log files
and didn't find any problems. All last messages (before messages coming with
morning startup)
were before 4am and consits of ordinary information.

Can anybody guess what can all that be ?
And how to prevent such things in future ?

TIA Alex


GDM root login?

2000-04-25 Thread Kristian Rink
Hi there, folks...

Having some difficulties with pre-compiled GNOME packages on potato, I
rather decided to build GNOME 1.0.55 myself. So by now, most of the stuff
actually works fine, only problem left is that the GDM display manager
doesn't allow login as 'root'. Starting with the docs, I read that there's
an option like AllowRootLogin in GDM config file but it seems that this
doesn't have any effect on my GDM... Can anyone out there help me? :)

Thanks, have a nice day...

Kristian

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missing curses?

2000-04-25 Thread Dominic Blythe
not the best example of a question as i'm a 
hundred miles from my linux box right now, but... 

i tried installing MySQL the other day, and 
configure stopped with the message no curses -
the previous three or four lines of output 
were looking for tgetenv here and 
looking for tgetenv there...

how can i tell if i've got no curses library,
and can i just get the ncurses/libcurses package
and install it without impacting on my system 
(which is Corel, which is, I think, Slink)?


Re: /var/lib gone

2000-04-25 Thread Brad
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 06:58:56PM +0100, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 07:51:55PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
 
  try dpkg -S /var/lib and then dpkg -i ... then shown packages once
  more. that way you'll avoid reinstalling the whole distro.
 
 Um, all the dpkg database is stored in /var/lib, so that won't work.

You could still get a list of more or less all installed packages, since
every package creates a self-named directory in /usr/doc or
/usr/share/doc. There's one or two extras. A quick check on my own
system shows only one package installed without any docs: fdflush.
Sounds like a bug to me, since it should have at least a copyright
file... Anyone feel like filing it, or do i have to do it myself? ;)

If you could get things together far enough for dpkg/apt to work, you
could then go reinstall every package you previously had.

BTW, every package puts files in /var/lib/dpkg/info --
{pre,post}{inst,rm}, md5 sums for all files, lists of installed files,
lists of conf files, and so on. So to get things fully working, you'd
need to reinstall them all anyway.


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Re: user still logged in...

2000-04-25 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 09:56:10AM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote:
 The who command displays user james as being logged in like this:
 
 pat  tty3 Apr 24 09:52
 james0Apr 19 20:24
 
 User pat is logged in but james logged out sometime on april 19. Apparently
 though something went wrong and the system stil lists him as logged in since
 april 19.
 
 James owns no processes and ps aux does not reveal anything suspicious.
 Anyone know how to get rid of user james?

this is usually caused by a corrupted /var/run/utmp file, i have seen
this happen alot where users show up in who, and users but no in w.
the only way i have found to get rid of these phantom users is to drop
to single user mode and zero out /var/run/utmp (cat /dev/null 
/var/run/utmp) 

I had a problem with this when i was using a 2.7.1 build of rxvt which
was not removing entries properly, i would very soon end up with many
many entries for my user since every time i loged out of X there were
5 or more rxvts being closed but not removing the utmp entries
right...  i have also seen this when ssh connnections are interupted
abnormally.

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Re: root filesystem corrupted, can't log in

2000-04-25 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 02:47:37PM -0700, montefin wrote:
 Philip,
 
 To follow up on Nathan's reply, and only because when I upgraded Red Hat
 from 6.0 to 6.1, I earned the dubious title Mr. Fsck-it, here's my 2
 cents:
 
 It seems the linux kernels from about 2.2.7 thru 2.2.13, and only on IDE
 boxes, had a recurrent filesystem corruption problem. I was on kernel
 2.2.12 when I upgraded to RedHat 6.1 and it slaughtered me. Here's the
 routine that worked over and over again for me when boot up failed.

i can certainly attest to 2.2.13 trashing filesystems, it was always
`corrupted blocks' or some such thing too.

snip

 When they are all done, type 'exit' (without the quote marks). Your
 system will shutdown and you _should_ be able press restart and boot
 back up clean. Should.

unless it was 2.2.13 in which case all three times i had this
corruption all of /etc was gone, as was /bin and a few other things
that don't matter like /lib :(  they took a new nameless home in /lost+found...

 You mileage may vary, but I have had to do that so many times under Red
 Hat I've lost count. I'm surprised to encounter it in Debian. AND it may
 be different here, so if anyone thinks he shouldn't try this, please
 speak up NOW.

the kernel is the kernel, the distribution does not matter when your
kernel is puking all over the filesystem.  and 2.2.13 seemed to always
kill the root filesystem first.

 Good Luck,

you will need it.  and don't allow any 2.2 kernel earlier then 2.2.14
within a mile of any of your machines :|

fsck is a four letter word for a reason, its spelled f s c k but its
pronounced ...

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Re: XFree86-4.0 and xauth

2000-04-25 Thread Brad
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 07:10:59PM -0400, Brian Stults wrote:
 I upgraded to XFree86-4.0 recently, and now xauth doesn't seem to work. 

i don't use XFree86-4.0 yet, but here's guess or two.

 I usually use ssh to work on my unix account at work and to do so, I
 have a script that looks like this:
 
 ssh REMOTEHOST /usr/openwin/bin/xauth add `grep -e IPADDR
 /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info | gawk -F = '{print $2}'`:0 . `xauth list
 LOCALHOST/unix:0 | gawk '{print $3}'`

Have you checked that this still generates the right output? i.e. what
is is supposed to generate and what does it actually do? Change the
cookie if you want to post it, no one will know the difference.

For example, in my xauth file i have keys for both MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1
and XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1. If the XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 would have happened
to come first, it would be using the wrong cookie for your script.

 xterm -e ssh REMOTEHOST 
 
 This basically gets my current IP address from the dhcpcd info, and uses
 ssh to add the xauth code for that IP to my list on the remote host. 

Just out of curiousity, why don't you just use ssh's X forwarding?
Especially since the long-standing bug that made it fail on some
configurations has been fixed in the latest Debian versions.

 However, since I upgraded to 4.0, this doesn't work.  Even if I do it
 manually on the remote host, it still doesn't work.  When I try to
 execute a program on the remote host with the display exported to my
 localhost, I get this:
 
 Xlib: connection to LOCALHOST:0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 xterm Xt error: Can't open display: LOCALHOST:0

When you say 'manually' do you mean manually ran the script or did
xauth list and copy-pasted the output by hand into the remote session?

Apparently, there's some issue with the key being different... The only
guess i have at the moment is that that script is producing incorrect
output.


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Re: Problem connecting with ISP - update

2000-04-25 Thread Guðmundur Erlingsson
Hi,

No, I don't think that this is a problem, it didn't work before I
changed the permission (I changed it according to the PPP-Howto, to 740)
so there is something else going on. The thing is that ppp doesn't seem
to start up on the server, and I have no idea how to get it started.
When I use minicom to dial in it just hangs up with a NO CARRIER
message, although I know I have the correct phonenumber and it works
without a hitch in win95.

regards,

Guðmundur

Alan Sobey wrote:
 
 On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 03:19:41PM +0200, Guðmundur Erlingsson wrote:
  Hi there,
 
  I'm trying to dial in to my ISP but whatever I try nothing seems to
  work. I'm using the pon script, pap-authentification, and here is a
  typical logfile:
 
  Apr 24 14:23:36 Jarlsberg pppd[334]: Warning - secret file
  /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
 
 Maybe this is your problem: pppd may not work right till the
 permissions on this file are fixed.
 (just a possibility)
 Alan.
 
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Re: find running in the backgound

2000-04-25 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
 Once a day, I hear my hard drive making a lot of noise, so i ran top and
 discovered it was find running. What is its purpose and how can
 I disable it?
 
it's a cron job. edit /etc/cron.daily/* to get rid of it.

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Re: 486/slink networked with?

2000-04-25 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
I was running mandrake 6.0, but I have rh 6.1 at present.  I
 want to replace it with debian.  Would slink be the best choice for
 compatability issues, or would potato be the wiser choice.
potato is the better choice, because it is a glibc 2.1.3 system - slink is
only 2.0. rh 6.1 is around 2.1, too, afaik.

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RE: user still logged in...

2000-04-25 Thread vipin Aravind
I got the right person , look /var/run/utmp holds the entry for the login
shells and all
  the processes in its group .  I found it from the windows m/c from where I
held a telnet session
with the linux m/c and  I gave a hard reset to my windows m/c
   .  I booted back on my windows m/c and then  had a look at the
ps -el and to my surprise I found   that the the shells assosciated with the
tty line of the earlier terminal  still exists
not detached but with the older tty line and hence a potential bug.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ethan Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 2:06 PM
 To: Pat Mahoney
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: user still logged in...


 On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 09:56:10AM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote:
  The who command displays user james as being logged in like this:
 
  pat  tty3 Apr 24 09:52
  james0Apr 19 20:24
 
  User pat is logged in but james logged out sometime on april
 19. Apparently
  though something went wrong and the system stil lists him as
 logged in since
  april 19.
 
  James owns no processes and ps aux does not reveal anything suspicious.
  Anyone know how to get rid of user james?

 this is usually caused by a corrupted /var/run/utmp file, i have seen
 this happen alot where users show up in who, and users but no in w.
 the only way i have found to get rid of these phantom users is to drop
 to single user mode and zero out /var/run/utmp (cat /dev/null 
 /var/run/utmp)

 I had a problem with this when i was using a 2.7.1 build of rxvt which
 was not removing entries properly, i would very soon end up with many
 many entries for my user since every time i loged out of X there were
 5 or more rxvts being closed but not removing the utmp entries
 right...  i have also seen this when ssh connnections are interupted
 abnormally.

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Re: Modules name resolution

2000-04-25 Thread John Pearson
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 03:02:42PM +0200, Kovacs Istvan wrote
 Hello!
 
 I've just installed potato, re-compiled the kernel, and now (some of)
 my modules will not auto-load. I can load them with modprobe and/or
 insmod. I have to load the driver for my Initio SCSI card, SB AWE32
 sound card and RTL8019-based NIC by hand. The question is: why? And of
 course: how do I correct the situation?
 Also: how (and where) do I supply module parameters for auto-loading?
 To load my NIC driver, I have to issue insmod ne io=0x340 irq=10 --
 where do I put this info so I don't need to supply it every time? I use
 kmod, not kerneld.
 In /etc/modutils/aliases, I inserted the following for the sound card:
 ---
 # SB AWE
 alias midi awe_wave
 post-install awe_wave /usr/bin/sfxload /usr/synthfm.sbk
 options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
 alias sound sb
 ---
 
 Is this okay?
 

Yes, although it might be tidier if the options and post-install
lines were in their own file (say, /etc/modutils/sound).
You can do the same for your network card - just put 
options ne io=0x340 irq=10
in (e.g.) /etc/modutils/ne and then add a line with just ne
on it to /etc/modules.

Or, run modconf which will allow you to do the same thing in a
more GUI way.

After editing files in /etc/modutils always run update-modules,
so that /etc/conf.modules gets updated.

 Another question: I used pppconfig to set up my dialup Internet
 connection. I supplied the IP address of the ISP's name server, which
 was properly placed in /etc/resolv.conf. nslookup works okay, but
 nothing else: ping and browsers cannot resolve names. Everything works
 when IP addresses are given instead of names.
 

Did you choose the defaultroute option in pppconfig?
Run 
# route -n 
while your PPP connection is up; it should include a line like
0.0.0.0 192.168.113.110 0.0.0.0 UG1  0 0 ppp0
where 192.168.113.110 is the IP address of the far end of the
PPP connection.


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Re: user still logged in...

2000-04-25 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 02:44:48PM +0530, vipin Aravind wrote:
 I got the right person , look /var/run/utmp holds the entry for the login
 shells and all
   the processes in its group .  I found it from the windows m/c from where I
 held a telnet session
 with the linux m/c and  I gave a hard reset to my windows m/c
.  I booted back on my windows m/c and then  had a look at the
 ps -el and to my surprise I found   that the the shells assosciated with the
 tty line of the earlier terminal  still exists
 not detached but with the older tty line and hence a potential bug.

well telnetd should evenually timeout, and send a SIGHUP to your login
shell which causes a SIGHUP to be sent to all its children, this
effectivly kills all the processes you started from that login.  you
can do it your self by finding the pid of your OLD login shell and
running kill -1 on it, that will usually cleanly remove the utmp
entry.  now if your processes were killed off but there is still a
utmp entry that is a bug.  

session timeouts can take as much as 10 mintutes i have found, its not
instant by any means. 

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Re: Long time Debian user with semi-technical question

2000-04-25 Thread Lehel Bernadt
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Andrew Weiss wrote:
 I have been using Debian since the old A.out days of Debian 1.0, and I was
 wondering since I am doing development of our company's own Linux
 distribution based on Debian... I have potato as the base and am beginning
 to customize and modify it, but haven't really yet... other than Windowmaker
 graphics and WDM graphics..
 
 Is it OK to carefully modify /var/lib/dpkg/status?

I've modified it once, don't remember exactly what, but it was a dependency
conflict that I had to solve.
  
 KDE stuff wouldn't go
 on because it wanted stdc++2.9, and it was too stupid to realize 2.10 was
 newer... I had to force each and every kde package... it worked too, but I
 gave up on keeping kde because every time I wanted to add new packages it
 wanted to kill kde.

Why don't you install libstdc++2.9? I have both 2.9 and 2.10 installed (with
KDE depending on 2.9) and have no dependency problem.


Re: Long time Debian user with semi-technical question

2000-04-25 Thread Lehel Bernadt
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you need to modify dependencies, I mean really need to modify 
 depenedencies, download the source and edit debian/control. In both your
 examples, there are better ways than hacking dependencies.

Huh...download the source too ?
You can edit the control file by unpacking the binary package like this:
mkdir packagename
dpkg-deb -X packagename_rev.deb packagename
cd packagename
dpkg-deb -e ../packagename_rev.deb
Now it's all there. If you've finished editing, repack it:
cd ..
dpkg-deb -b packagename
I do this when I have to fix the directory structure of
alien-converted rpms. 


Re: Need a list of installed *.deb packages

2000-04-25 Thread Phillip Deackes
Olaf Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 12:42:42PM -0400, Maury R . Merkin wrote:
  Is there a command which returns a list of the *.deb packages
 presently 
  installed on my 'puter?
 
 Yes there is a command: dpkg --get-selections | more
 -- get a list of package selections, and write it to stdout.

I always use dpkg -l because it gives a little more information:

dpkg -l | xless  or
dpkg -l | gless or
dpkg -l | more

etc..

If you want a text file of installed packages:

gpkg -l | lpr 


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Re: how do you set your system clock from a remote time server?

2000-04-25 Thread Philip Lehman
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Harry ten Berge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris Mason wrote:
 Where can I get nptdate?
It's in 'xntp3'. ntpdate is a part of the complete 'time server suite'.

At least in potato it's broken up into server and client. There is a
ntpdate (client only) deb.

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Re: root filesystem corrupted, can't log in

2000-04-25 Thread Philip Lehman
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 02:47:37PM -0700, montefin wrote:
 
 It seems the linux kernels from about 2.2.7 thru 2.2.13, and only on IDE
 boxes, had a recurrent filesystem corruption problem. I was on kernel
 2.2.12 when I upgraded to RedHat 6.1 and it slaughtered me. Here's the
 routine that worked over and over again for me when boot up failed.

i can certainly attest to 2.2.13 trashing filesystems, it was always
`corrupted blocks' or some such thing too.

snip

 When they are all done, type 'exit' (without the quote marks). Your
 system will shutdown and you _should_ be able press restart and boot
 back up clean. Should.

Did.

Nathan, montefin, aphro, Ethan: thanks to all of for the quick
replies. I managed to fix the filesystem some time after midnight
(CET) and the box it's up and running again.

[...]
you will need it.  and don't allow any 2.2 kernel earlier then 2.2.14
within a mile of any of your machines :|

First thing I did when the machine came up again was upgrading from
2.2.9 to 2.2.14. This is scary.

BTW: What's the best way to keep up with glitches like this if you
don't follow devel and kernel lists?

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RE: GDM root login?

2000-04-25 Thread Christian Pernegger
It also says somewhere in the docs that the AllowRootLogin option is ignored
if PAM is configured/working on the system. You might want to check the PAM
config...

Christian

 -Original Message-
 From: Kristian Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 10:03 AM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: GDM root login?


 Hi there, folks...

 Having some difficulties with pre-compiled GNOME packages on potato, I
 rather decided to build GNOME 1.0.55 myself. So by now, most of the stuff
 actually works fine, only problem left is that the GDM display manager
 doesn't allow login as 'root'. Starting with the docs, I read that there's
 an option like AllowRootLogin in GDM config file but it seems that this
 doesn't have any effect on my GDM... Can anyone out there help me? :)

 Thanks, have a nice day...

 Kristian

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Re: Problem connecting with ISP - update

2000-04-25 Thread David Wright
Quoting Guðmundur Erlingsson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 No, I don't think that this is a problem, it didn't work before I
 changed the permission (I changed it according to the PPP-Howto, to 740)
 so there is something else going on. The thing is that ppp doesn't seem
 to start up on the server, and I have no idea how to get it started.

Usually you have to send the command ppp if ppp doesn't start
automatically at the other end. Some of our systems used to require
this, and those that did did not necessarily have ppp listed in the
help output.

You may need a delay in your chatscript between receiving CONNECT
and sending PPP. \d is it?

 When I use minicom to dial in it just hangs up with a NO CARRIER
 message, although I know I have the correct phonenumber and it works
 without a hitch in win95.

You mean the other end answers, waits, and then hangs up? Yes, that
would be a timer expiring.

Not all systems have the sense to start ppp automatically when bombarded
with LCP packets. Don't ask me why.

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Re: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread David Wright
Quoting Mats Ström ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 I am trying to get X working on S3 trio3D card. My XFree86 is
 version 3.3.6 which supports the trio3D. Unfortunately it is
 very picky about its modelines. There some recommended mode-
 lines in the manual:

What manual is that? Something originating from X or from trio?

   Modeline 1024x768  75  1024 1048 1184 1328  768  771  777  806 -hsync
 -vsync
   Modeline 640x480  45.80 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -hsync -vsync
   Modeline 800x600  36  800  824  896 1024600  601  603  625
 
 The problem is this: I have an old monitor. ERGO: When I attempt
 to start X, I get the following:
   (--) SVGA: Mode 640x480 needs vert refresh rate of 100.02 Hz. Deleted.
   (--) SVGA: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.
   (--) SVGA: Mode 800x600 needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
 
 How do I find working modelines for my system? I cant handle the
 recommended ones. They demand to much of my grumpy old monitor...

When you install the X server and create /etc/X11/XF86Config,
you should get many more modes than you report here. For example,
you quote (I'm splitting the longer lines):

#  640x480 @ 100 Hz, 53.01 kHz hsync
Modeline  640x480 45.8   640  672  768  864   480  488  494  530
 -HSync -VSync

but I've got all these:

#  640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
 Modeline 640x480 25.175 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525

#  640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
 Modeline 640x480 31.5   640  680  720  864   480  488  491  521

#  640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
 Modeline 640x480 31.5   640  656  720  840   480  481  484  500
 -HSync -VSync

#  640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
 Modeline 640x400 36 640  696  752  832   480  481  484  509
 -HSync -VSync

some of which ought to be within the capabilities of your monitor.

Is it possible that you've got hold of a piece of documentation which,
while being selective for the trio's sake, was written by someone who
had a high spec. monitor and didn't consider people who were still
using an old model becuase they wouldn't have this card. (Most
computer literature tends to be written like that.)

Cheers,

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Re: need some procmail help

2000-04-25 Thread David Wright
Quoting Mithrandir ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 I have still some problems with procmail, it will not deliver the mail as
 wanted, does anyone can help please?? as attachment there are my .procmailrc
 and a file called mail which is a copy off the mail as they arrived to root
 (and not the user).
 The user doesn't get any mails anymore :((

I think you're filtering off the wrong line; From  has timedate
garbage at the end. Why not use something like:

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
User

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
User

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Devel

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/dev/null

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian

In other words:
1) don't bother with H and fancy nested patterns: just have another
recipe for the same mailbox,
2) use a cleaner mail header that's always the same,
3) by throwing away one list, you might be able to have a simple
catcher at the end as above.

I hope that helps.

Cheers,

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Re: Newbie questions, Partisioning

2000-04-25 Thread David Wright
Quoting Lowell Voelker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I was just given a new PC with 40GB hard drive and Win98 preloaded Fat32
 from what fdisk is telling me.  Will it be posible to leave the first
 20-30GB as Fat32 and from 30-40Gb for Debian?

Yes, just so long as you can boot the kernel from somewhere.
If the BIOS can't read it from a partition with such a high cylinder
position, then there are other tricks like loadlin, or having a
copy of the kernel early enough in your FAT32 partition.

BTW remember to consider a swap partition.

 I have no way of knowing if the rescue dice will reload Win98 if I start
 over and set up Fat16 for the first 2GB?
 
 There is a rumor around that any Primary Partision after a Fat32 can not be
 Fat16.  Is this true?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but taken together, are
you suggesting in order:

W98/FAT32 20GB+ - FAT16 2GB - linux/ext2 rest

with FAT16 shared? (I can't quite see the point. Linux can mount W98.)

I've not heard of such a rumoured restriction. What's it meant to affect?

Or are you going to move W98 thusly:

FAT16 2GB - W98/FAT32 20GB+ - linux/ext2 rest

which may suffer from W98 suddenly moving to D: because the first
partition is now C:.

Could you be more specific and precise about what you want to do.

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Re: local mirror dist.

2000-04-25 Thread John Stevenson
You can use apt-move to add downloaded debs into a local cache, it can also be 
used
to grab and sort all the debs for a particular distribution 'apt-move mirror'.

Johnny.

Harry ten Berge wrote:

 Hi,

 I want to use dselect/apt with a local mirror of a debian site to
 update/install new machines. Is there a standard tool which
 automatically maintains a local mirror of a official debian (mirror)
 site? If no, how could I fix this?


Re: problem with gnats aliases and exim

2000-04-25 Thread Lee Bradshaw
On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 09:21:01PM -0500, Brad wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 04:46:56PM -0400, Lee Bradshaw wrote:
   freefall ~ $ 2000-04-21 16:27:32 12ik1U-0001bx-00 Neither the
   system_aliases director nor the address_pipe transport set a uid
   for local delivery of | /usr/lib/gnats/queue-pr -q
 
 exim requires you to specify somewhere a uid for any external programs
 it runs.
 
   system_aliases:
 driver = aliasfile
   #  Option added by convert4r3
 file_transport = address_file
   #  Option added by convert4r3
 pipe_transport = address_pipe
 file = /etc/aliases
 search_type = lsearch
   # user = list
   # Uncomment the above line if you are running smartlist
 
 This is one place. You can check the exim documentation for more
 explanations, descriptions of how to specify different
 directors/transports (which lets you have different users), and all
 sorts of other tricks.

Thanks, I added user = gnats to system_aliases to get things
working.


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Re: LyX crashed and now doesn't work

2000-04-25 Thread Lee Bradshaw
Thanks Pat. I think the full sequence that caused my problems was:

  Options/Reconfigure  (but didn't restart)
  crash in Math Panel
  restart lyx, but article class no available because reconfigure
didn't work properly

After using Options/Reconfigure I have to

  cp /usr/X11R6/share/lyx/textclass.lst ~/.lyx

After removing ~/.lyx, and running lyx, the .lyx/textclass.lst file is
incorrect. I can again copy it from the system lyx directory to get
things working.

I've seen the problem on two systems - one has been upgraded through
several debian releases and the other was just slink base to potato.

The bug report is 62873. Can anyone else duplicate my problem with
Options/Reconfigure?

On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 12:44:27AM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote:
 Try deleting your $(HOME)/.lyx dir. It may have been corrupted during the
 crash.
 
 On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 05:52:04PM -0400, Lee Bradshaw wrote:
 Hi,
 
 LyX crashed while I was playing with the Math Panel. Now it only sees
 two available textclasses in layout/document/class. Both are SGML and I
 was using the default article class . I purged and reinstalled LyX, but
 there was no change. Here's the error log from trying to generate a dvi
 file:
 
 ...snip...
 

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Re: root filesystem corrupted, can't log in

2000-04-25 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 01:26:11PM +0200, Philip Lehman wrote:
 
 First thing I did when the machine came up again was upgrading from
 2.2.9 to 2.2.14. This is scary.
 
 BTW: What's the best way to keep up with glitches like this if you
 don't follow devel and kernel lists?

I think probably the least time consuming thing to do is read Kernel
Traffic every week (http://www.kt.linuxcare.com find the link for
latest issue of the kernel version, they also have sumaries for many
other lists, including some debian lists) and possibly Linux Weekly
News (http://www.lwn.net) both of which have a summary of the
discussion topics of the week on linux kernel and other lists.  things
like massive filesystem corruption usually generate enough traffic on
linux kernel to make it into these sites.


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S3 cards and LX motherboards (was Re: Xproblem - modelines?)

2000-04-25 Thread Dan Halbert
Your problems with S3-based video cards and XFree86 may not be due to
misconfiguration. I have a S3 968 card, and though it worked well in
one of my machines, I could not get it to work in another one. I got
black screens only.

Do you have an LX motherboard? After some Dejanews searching (LX  S3
 linux), I found that various S3-based cards don't work properly with
XFree86 and LX-based motherboards. This problem -may- be fixed in
XFree86 4.0. Some claim that the alpha-quality S3 server in XF86_SVGA
works, but it did not work for me.

I have one LX machine that my S3 card works in, and another LX that it
does not, with an identical XF86Config. I have given up and ordered a
cheap ($20) refurbished Matrox Millennium. It's a better card anyway;
I already have one in one of the machines.

Dan Halbert


Re: Problem connecting with ISP - update

2000-04-25 Thread Guðmundur Erlingsson
Hi,

Thanks, but I've still not managed to make it work. Maybe I'm not doing
this right. I tried it like this:

  CONNECT \d\c
   ppp

but that didn't work. I tried to take \d and \c out, tried to toggle
quiet mode (\qppp), put ppp within quotation marks, but nothing worked.
Am I missing something here?

regards,

Guðmundur 


David Wright wrote:
 
 Quoting Guðmundur Erlingsson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  No, I don't think that this is a problem, it didn't work before I
  changed the permission (I changed it according to the PPP-Howto, to 740)
  so there is something else going on. The thing is that ppp doesn't seem
  to start up on the server, and I have no idea how to get it started.
 
 Usually you have to send the command ppp if ppp doesn't start
 automatically at the other end. Some of our systems used to require
 this, and those that did did not necessarily have ppp listed in the
 help output.
 
 You may need a delay in your chatscript between receiving CONNECT
 and sending PPP. \d is it?
 
  When I use minicom to dial in it just hangs up with a NO CARRIER
  message, although I know I have the correct phonenumber and it works
  without a hitch in win95.
 
 You mean the other end answers, waits, and then hangs up? Yes, that
 would be a timer expiring.
 
 Not all systems have the sense to start ppp automatically when bombarded
 with LCP packets. Don't ask me why.
 
 Cheers,
 
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RE: Debian posters

2000-04-25 Thread Andrew Weiss
Title: RE: Debian posters







-Original Message-
From: Richard B. Kreckel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 7:34 AM
To: Debian Development
Cc: Wichert Akkerman
Subject: Re: Debian posters


And put it under /data/, please. The infamous `Constitution of Finland'
thread should have made clear that Debian has accumulated enough bloatware
in main/, contrib/ and non-free/. New ideological ammunition should IMO
be added somewhere where the simple user who wants to get a system running
doesn't stumble over.


[Andrew Weiss] Of course we could make a new Debian based distro with only main and even a limited set of main and a mandatory virtual richard stallman package... then call it BORING Linux. Whoo hoo... Non-free is the best thing to happen to Linux... especially since unless you want to re-package the stuff it is free. (No not free in the FSF definition of the word, but you don't pay for it) Personally Mozilla's a great idea, but it sucks and produces many pages of text errors in a small window... Linux without Netscape is fairly crippled for most people... same as Linux without StarOffice, or WordPerfect/Corel Office, or Applix. KOffice is still a fantasy... and gasp* hehe KDE isn't included in free... whoopee.

Bracing for the flame war... and knowing full well that this post is slightly off topic.


Andrew





magicfilter vs. apsfilter

2000-04-25 Thread andreas . klemm . ak
Hi !

Browsed through the Debian mailinglist archive concerning apsfilter.
Interesting ;-) Concerning your question ...

apsfilter 5.4.1 will support gs 6.01 + hpdj driver + additional 3rd party
driver from
internet. Using anonymous cvs you are able to checkout a -current snapshot of
my developement work, which will become 5.4.1 soon. See:

 http://www.freebsd.org/~andreas

There you can find informations in the News and apsfilter section, how you
can checkout the current apsfilter sources using remote cvs.
You need to have cvs (concurrent version system) for that purpose.

Otherwise please wait for the next upcoming release.

See the list of supported drivers using my CVS repository browser:


http://www.cosmo-project.de/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/apsfilter/setup/printer-6.01?
rev=1.7content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

BTW, best would be to contact the Debian Port Maintainer of the gs port
(I put him on Cc:) to perhaps include the same 3rd party driver as I did for
the FreeBSD port, to be generally in sync with apsfilters printer list.
This is a complete list of gs 6.01 supported printer + additional compiled in
3rd party driver, see below ...

Additionally he could add the contributed uniprint driver profiles, I got from
users
(which are additionally distributed with apsfilter and simply can be copied
into
gs libdir)

Maybe it would be an advantage, if Matej could take over maintainership
of the gs port. My experience as owner of gs and apsfilter port in FreeBSD
is, that it%s a good thing (tm). So apsfilter and gs are in sync. But that%s
only a proposal. It%s not necessarily needed.

Look at the URLs in the Makefile, to see, what additional things I added t
FreeBSDs gs 6.01 port:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/print/ghostscript6/Makefile?rev=1.48

In short:
# Additional Drivers:
# http://www.proaxis.com/~mgelhaus/linux/software/hp880c/hp880c.html
HP8XX_DRV=  gdevcd8.tar.gz
# HPDJ, additional driver for HP PCL3 Printers, by Martin Lottermoser
# ftp://ftp.sbs.de/pub/graphics/ghostscript/pcl3/pcl3.html
HPDJ_DRV=   hpdj-2.6.tar.gz
# contributed uniprint profiles
CONTRIB_UPP=lqx70ch.upp lqx70cl.upp lqx70cm.upp \
stc740ih.upp stc740p.upp stc740pl.upp

Before my holiday (next week) I will have the new release out.

One major feature (it has lots) will be, that you can choose printer driver
specific options via lpr%s -C option, i.e.:

 lpr -C glossy:high:present file

(use glossy paper, high resolution, presentation quality)

bin/apsfilter can easily be edited, to add further driver specific options,
I possibly forgot to add.

BTW, Matej Vela, Debians apsfilter port maintainer has joined the apsfilter
developement team yesterday. I hope that we%ll do a fine job for you all now
and in the future !

 Andreas ///


Re: Xproblem - modelines?

2000-04-25 Thread Mats Ström
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, David Wright wrote:

 Quoting Mats Ström ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  I am trying to get X working on S3 trio3D card. My XFree86 is
  version 3.3.6 which supports the trio3D. Unfortunately it is
  very picky about its modelines. There some recommended mode-
  lines in the manual:
 
 What manual is that? Something originating from X or from trio?

Manual for XFree86 version 3.3.6 on www.xfree86.org.
They recommend these modelines and not how picky
the s3 card is about its modelines: the usual modelines
do not work.

 Is it possible that you've got hold of a piece of documentation which,
 while being selective for the trio's sake, was written by someone who
 had a high spec. monitor and didn't consider people who were still
 using an old model becuase they wouldn't have this card. (Most
 computer literature tends to be written like that.)

YEP. =)

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Re: root filesystem corrupted, can't log in

2000-04-25 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
montefin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 NOTE: If you get a large block of type that mentions a SUPERBLOCK error
 and tells you to do the '-b 8193' thing. Well, that's how you got that
 message, right? Instead I did this:
 
 e2fsck -r /dev/filesystemname (my /var looks like /dev/hda7

 With e2fsprogs 1.18-3, the e2fsck manpage says:

   -r This  option  does  nothing  at all; it is provided
  only for backwards compatibility.

 What option did you intend to use?  (I'm not flaming - I'm
asking for information.)

Bob
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Re: Archiving and Expiring Mail

2000-04-25 Thread Richard Klinda
Hoi Erik!

  Erik I use Procmail and Mutt for processing +200 mail messages
  Erik every day (large share from this list ;-)) I would like to
  Erik have a tool which is able to archive and/or expire mail
  Erik messages on a per mailbox bases.

I think that procmail can do that job. Here's an example:

## debian user (digest)
:0
* X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
:0 c
|formail +1 -ds cat Archives/deb-user

:0
|formail +1 -ds cat spool/deb-user.spool
}

(So the messages are stored in two files: deb-user and
deb-user.spool.)

Ps: have you noticed the crippled X-Loop header line? :-(

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  You can do each while thinking about the other.


Re: update-alternatives: bug or misunderstanding?

2000-04-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
 Eric == Eric G Miller egm2@jps.net writes:

itz However, that's not how it seems to work on potato.  I noticed
itz that after the installation I got /etc/alternatives/awk pointing
itz to /usr/bin/mawk and /etc/alternatives/awk.1.gz pointing to
itz /usr/man/man1/mawk.1.gz.  Since I prefer gawk, I did (as root)

itz update-alternatives --config /usr/bin/awk awk /usr/bin/gawk

Eric You left out the slave link for the man pages, hence they
Eric weren't updated.  Reread that alternatives man page (yes, it's
Eric confusing).

I was under the impression that it was the whole point of this feature
that it would figure that out automatically.  Certainly the system has
enough information to do that, looking at the files in
/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives. 

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Re: root filesystem corrupted, can't log in

2000-04-25 Thread montefin
Bob,

np.

I intended to use -r. Below your post is a response to the same question
from another list member. All I can say is it seems to work for me. Next
time I'll try it again without the -r. I'm sure I'll have occasion to.

montefin
 

Robert D. Hilliard wrote:
 
 montefin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  NOTE: If you get a large block of type that mentions a SUPERBLOCK error
  and tells you to do the '-b 8193' thing. Well, that's how you got that
  message, right? Instead I did this:
 
  e2fsck -r /dev/filesystemname (my /var looks like /dev/hda7
 
  With e2fsprogs 1.18-3, the e2fsck manpage says:
 
-r This  option  does  nothing  at all; it is provided
   only for backwards compatibility.
 
  What option did you intend to use?  (I'm not flaming - I'm
 asking for information.)
 
 Bob
 --

Yeah, I know, I read that too.

But I'd seen it mentioned in one of Barkakati's books, I think, so I
tried it and it worked for me when I was in the same jam as you. And it
didn't work without it. But maybe that's just Red Hat or my environemnt,
although it's worked for other people I passed it along to. -r is a hold
over from FSCK and it's supposed to be e2fsck's default behavior, but
there's a lot that isn't quite so about e2fsck.

Maybe it's just voodoo for me now, but, hey, if it doesn't do anything,
it can't hurt, right?

Read those other comments about the internal directives in the e2fsck
program. The -b 8193 alternate superblock routine is suggested after
_it_  produces the error. And wait until you see the 'bonehead' line in
the maybe it's a bug but it's probably YOU message. Anyway, I tend not
to believe everything I read in man pages.

Seriously though. Check to see if you're running e2fsprog along with or
as a part of e2fsck on your bootup. It's a little script that shows the
pretty hash marks or spinning pinwheel for e2fsck's progress. Well, it
was also known to trigger an unnessecary Signal 11 everytime the root
filesystem was checked. Not only for a power outage but even when you
reached maximum boots without a check. That's no fun. 

There's a bugfix on the Red Hat 6.1 Errata page

http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/rh61-errata-general.html

that supposedly corrects that, but I never saw it make a difference. I
think it's just e2fsck. I'm not sure if Red Hat fixes can be applied to
other Linuxes, but you might want to try it.


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