Re: cat /dev/zeroarchivo
El Tue, May 02, 2000 at 07:37:58PM +0200, Luis M. García Ruipérez dijo: Con las prisas se me ha olvidado lo siguiente: Independientemente de si es o no es el funcionamiento normal de /dev/zero, SÍ es cierto que cualquier usuario, simplemente emitiendo esa orden, puede acabar con los recursos del ordenador. Así que la pregunta ahora es: ¿cómo se puede evitar que un usuario emita esta orden? La página de man zero dice que este archivo debe ser legible y escribible por cualquiera, así que los permisos ni tocarlos. Un sistema de cuotas impide que el usuario se cargue la capacidad de disco duro (salvo la que tenga él asignada), pero esto no impide que mientras se alcanza esa cuota se quede frito el ordenador. ¿Alguna idea? Creo que la ralentización se debe a que se satura el disco duro, con lo cual el login y cualquier programa que acceda a disco se va a ver ralentizado. Seguro que no es cosa del /dev/zero, por ejemplo cat /dev/zero /dev/null no ralentiza la máquina, lo que me dice que es el disco duro el recurso que se satura. No creo que puedas controlar dicho efecto sin hacer malabarismos, me parece que es algo intrinseco al sistema de ficheros, y eso que el ext2 es un sistema de ficheros bastante eficiente, según dicen. Quizas /dev/zero sea lo suficiente- mente rápido como para saturar al driver del sist. de fich., y este no pueda atender a otros programas en un tiempo aceptable. Un saludo. -- Fdo: Ismael Canales Luis
Re: pregunta...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hola!!! Buenas... Sobre Linux se pueden desarrollar juegos para PlayStation?? si es asi.. que seria genial! que herramientas hay para trabajar en ello??? Me suena que sí, creo que hay utilidades por ahí (ahora no recuerdo donde) para compilar y convertir los ejecutables al formato de la playstation, pero me parece que necesitas tener el kit de desarrollo para poderlo hacer (y eso creo que se lo tienes que pedir a sony), que es donde están las librerías y demás que hacen falta. No se si tendré alguna dirección en mis bookmarks de la facultad (no los tengo a mano ahora). Si encuentro alguna te la mando. Hasta luego. -- David Muriel. Debian GNU/Linux woody + Emacs 20.5.2 + Gnus v5.8.3 Linux registered user #25632 (http://counter.li.org/) Microsoft broke Volkswagen's world record: Volkswagen only made 22 million bugs!
Re: Diccionario inglés-castellano ?
Javier Fafián Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ¿Donde conseguirlo? En la pagina del autor: (hay paquetes debian :). http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.htm Perdón pero la dirección de trivino no existe o almenos yo no puedo conectarme a ella, y en la otra la versión para consola no la encuentro, alguna otra dirección ? Prueba en algún mirror de debian. El paquete está en .../dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/text/i2e_-YYY.deb Si no usas potato o woody, siempre te puedes bajar los fuentes del mismo mirror y compilarlos. Este paquete es el que tiene la versión para consola y para X con GTK+. Hasta luego. -- David Muriel. Debian GNU/Linux woody + Emacs 20.5.2 + Gnus v5.8.3 Linux registered user #25632 (http://counter.li.org/) ...El trabajo en equipo es esencial...te permite echarle la culpa a otro
Debian en CDs
Hola a todas/os. Tengo entendido que la version potato definitiva de Debian puede salir en unas tres semanas si hay suerte. Y aqui me surge una cuestion. Yo pensaba bajarme la potato a traves de Internet, pero dado que tiene un tamaño muy grande no se si se podria pasar sus datos a CDs, o sea, para poder instalarlos desde CD y no desde disco duro. Digamos que como crear los CDs de instalacion de Debian potato como si estos fueran los originales. Para ello poseo una grabadora. Agradeceria a todo aquel que supiera de este tema donde y como puedo hacer esto. Aclaro que no lo hago con fines de lucro personal, obviamente. Y vuelvo a recordar a todo el que me escuche y posea una Diamond SpeedStar a70 de 8 MB que esta gobernada por un procesador SiS 6326 Rev. D2 que me comente si puede como le va con ella; si bien, si mal, y si es asi, en que le falla, porque la mia me falla en el entorno grafico. Eso es todo. Gracias.
Re: cat /dev/zeroarchivo
El Wed, May 03, 2000 at 06:09:34AM +0200, Hue-Bond dijo: El martes 02 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 15:06:18 -0500, Ugo Enrico Albarello contaba: Un perl sencillo que se llame a sí mismo (ejecutable por cualquiera), manda al piso el sistema. Creo que con PAM se puede limitar el número máximo de procesos por usuario, lo que acabaría con este DoS. Y potato implementa PAM. Si la cosa es así, excelente. Mañana mismo pongo potato. (Buehhh... mañana o apenas me consiga un CD con el potato :oP) -- Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa | POWERED BY | www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.1 | www.linux.org Always Free, Always Cool, Always Linux
Re: Diccionario inglés-castellano ?
El Tue, May 02, 2000 at 06:24:38PM +0100, Jaime E. Villate dijo: Yo tengo un glosario inglés-español (no tan completo como el diccionario de Jose Luis pués solo tiene términos de informática). Que puede ser consultado en shell usando el programa dict o usando grep (ver detalles en: http://quark.fe.up.pt/orca/) Alfredo Casademunt dijo hace algunos dias que ya tenia lista una versión dict del diccionário de Jose Luis. Si así es, entonces se puede usar a partir de una shell. No lo dije yo, fue Ricardo Villalba, y creo que esta disponible en http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft Saludos, Jaime Villate Un saludo. Alfredo. -- Linux registered user #98432 Running Debian/GNU Linux 2.1 with kernel 2.2.14 Homepage at http://darkd.virtualave.net
RE: RDSI con PPP asincrono
Bueno. Ante todo un saludo gracias por la contestación. Sobre el soporte ppp tienes toda la razón no esta en el núcleo. La opción debug estaba puesta, y esos son los mensajes que salen. Ahora bien no se en qué momento y no se por que cuando conectaba salían unos caracteres raros mas la palabra euskaltel.es (lo digo de memoria) de manera repetitiva. ¿sabes por que razón en mi ordenata de casa me funciona la conexión a internet aún dandome el error de que no encuentra el número mayor 108? Es una cosa que me deja perplejo. ¿cabe hacer un test de la conexión sin conectar a la linea RDSI? juanma ginzo
RE: Debian en CDs
= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Hola a todas/os. Tengo entendido que la version potato definitiva de Debian puede salir en unas tres semanas si hay suerte. Y aqui me surge una cuestion. Yo pensaba bajarme la potato a traves de Internet, pero dado que tiene un tamaño muy grande no se si se podria pasar sus datos a CDs, o sea, para poder instalarlos desde CD y no desde disco duro. Digamos que como crear los CDs de instalacion de Debian potato como si estos fueran los originales. Para ello poseo una grabadora. Agradeceria a todo aquel que supiera de este tema donde y como puedo hacer esto. Aclaro que no lo hago con fines de lucro personal, obviamente. Y vuelvo a recordar a todo el que me escuche y posea una Diamond SpeedStar a70 de 8 MB que esta gobernada por un procesador SiS 6326 Rev. D2 que me comente si puede como le va con ella; si bien, si mal, y si es asi, en que le falla, porque la mia me falla en el entorno grafico. Eso es todo. Gracias. no entiendo muy bien tu pregunta: lo logico es que te bajes las imagenes una a una si no te caben mas i luego las pasas a cds si no tienes ni espacio para una (un poco raro si tienes cd-rw) siempre puedes hacer un pipe dependiendo de tu tipo de conexion puede funcionar: recuerda que en debian hay un pakete llamado buffer que te puede ayudar si se se cae la conexion :) pero es un poco arriesgado i yo no haria. turt.
modelines de piña para el niño i la niña......
Hola lista: alguien me pidio algunos modelines para xwindows pues aki teneis unos cuantos: ***NOTA***IMPORTANTE** estos modelines han sido usados con mi configuracion hard/soft sin problemas lo que no quiere decir que no puedan quemar tu monitor bajo determinadas circunstancias como: usarlos sin bajar el clockrate en monitores de menos de 17 no doi ninguna garantia de que funcionen bien o de que sirvan para algo ;) en casi el 100% de los casos sera necesario el conocimiento del xvidtune para ajustarlos ** * #Modeline 1336x1002110.00 1336 1342 1580 17281002 1004 1005 1014 #alguien dijo ke solo hasta 1280? #Modeline 1280x1024 120.0 1280 1292 1476 1664 1024 1025 1026 1054 #overclockeds Modeline 1280x960 121.463 1280 1338 1482 1684 960 961 964 998 # modo ergonomico golden ratio (Mac) #Modeline 1280x720115.00 1280 1306 1450 1648720 789 791 925 +hsync -vsync # formato 16:9 #Modeline 1336x502120.00 1336 1338 1576 1744502 716 717 950 # Cinemascope original #Modeline 624x575 45.00624 628 748 816575 576 582 598 # formato tele normal Modeline 1152x864 107.80 1152 1168 1328 1506 864 865 875 895 +hsync -vsync Modeline 1024x76895.00 1024 1052 1172 1340 768 769 770 795 Modeline 800x600 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 +hsync +vsync #no tele no pal #Modeline pal63.37 768 808 840 976 576 577 578 602 -hsync -vsync # modo pal para capturadoras de video #Modeline 640x48045.80 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -hsync -vsync #Modeline 512x38426.00 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 +hsync -vsync #Modeline 480x30050.95 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 -hsync -vsync doublescan #Modeline 400x30031.00 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 -hsync -vsync doublescan #Modeline 320x24027.50 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 -hsync -vsync doublescan #Modeline 320x20015.59 320 324 372 428 200 204 205 213 +hsync -vsync doublescan #Emuladores de consolas Modeline 256x22417 256 260 300 328224 225 226 236 +hsync -vsync doublescan por cierto me reafirmo en mi cuestion ¿en la version 4 de Xfree se pueden definir modelines ? byez turt.
Potato
Cuando estará estable la potato, y desde donde me puedo bajar las imagenes ISO. Gracias
Error al ejecutar PS y al arrancar el sistema
Hola a todos.
Desde que realize el ultimo dselect y me actualizo algunos paquetes
(entre ellos el lilo) me
aparecio un mensaje de error de lilo diciendo que el nucleo ocupaba
demasiado (cosa que con la
anterior version de lilo no me pasabe). Para solucionarlo complie el
nucleo con make bzImage y
ahora funciona, excepto que:
- al arrancar me da un error de que no encuentra el modulo rtl8139 (no
lo entiendo ya que yo lo
complie en el nucleo y no como modulo) - aunque da este error el
sistema funciona.
- al ejecutar ps me aparece otro error:
Bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'?
{get_empty_super} {get_write_access}
Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.14 does not match kernel data.
UID PID PENDING BLOCKED IGNOREDCAUGHT STAT TTYTIME
COMMAND
0 167 SW tty2 0:00
[getty]
0 168 SW tty3 0:00
[getty]
0 169 SW tty4 0:00
[getty]
0 170 SW tty5 0:00
[getty]
0 171 SW tty6 0:00
[getty]
0 548 SW tty1 0:00
[getty]
0 854 0001 00384004 4f813efb Spts/0 0:00
-bash
0 856 73fbfef9 Rpts/0 0:00
ps -s
Alguien sabe a que es debido estos mensajes de error?
Gracias por todo.
Re: Debian en CDs
El Thu, May 04, 2000 a las 02:52:07AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: Hola a todas/os. Tengo entendido que la version potato definitiva de Debian puede salir en unas tres semanas si hay suerte. Posiblemente, si. Todos estamos esperandola ... Y aqui me surge una cuestion. Yo pensaba bajarme la potato a traves de Internet, pero dado que tiene un tamaño muy grande no se si se podria pasar sus datos a CDs, o sea, para poder instalarlos desde CD y no desde disco duro. Digamos que como crear los CDs de instalacion de Debian potato como si estos fueran los originales. Para ello poseo una grabadora. Agradeceria a todo aquel que supiera de este tema donde y como puedo hacer esto. Existe un paquete en Debian, como no, para estos casos. Te adjunto su descripcion: ### Package: debian-cd Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: contrib/admin Installed-Size: 899 Maintainer: Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 2.1.92 Depends: perl5 | perl, libdigest-md5-perl | libmd5-perl, sysutils, apt (= 0.3.11.1), dpkg-dev (= 1.4.1.6), dpkg-multicd, make, mkhybrid | mkisofs Recommends: lha, unzip Conffiles: /etc/debian-cd/conf.sh d45463c7044a18281bb8f3f1ea6cc22f Description: Tools for building (Official) Debian CD set This package was formerly called YACS (for Yet Another CD Script). . It's the official way of building CD since the potato release. . Its goal is to facilitate the creation of customized Debian CD set. . You will need unzip for building i386 images and lha for m68k images. ### No sé que version de Debian tienes instalada, pero intenta esto: apt-get install debian-cd Si te falla, comentalo en la lista... Aclaro que no lo hago con fines de lucro personal, obviamente. Eso da igual. Para eso tenemos la licencia que tenemos ... Y vuelvo a recordar a todo el que me escuche y posea una Diamond SpeedStar a70 de 8 MB que esta gobernada por un procesador SiS 6326 Rev. D2 que me comente si puede como le va con ella; si bien, si mal, y si es asi, en que le falla, porque la mia me falla en el entorno grafico. Ni idea... Eso es todo. Gracias. Suerte -- =8= ___ _ / ___|_ _| (_) ___ Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias | | _| | | | | |/ __| Pasate por nuestro web | |_| | |_| | | | (__ http://www.gulic.org/ \|\__,_|_|_|\___| Clave GPG en las paginas de Gulic Key fingerprint = F734 17F5 3AB6 E1F6 11C4 B498 5B3E FEDF 90DF =8= pgpJjtRvEYHko.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: cvs
Mª EUGENIA BELIO [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Estimados Señores: Jo, cuanta cortesia... ;-) Me gustaría que me dijera como se realiza un script bajo Unix que realice un control de versiones, con CVS. Soy estudiante de Ingenieria Informática y no entiendo mucho sobre este tema. Si te explicas un poco mejor te podré ayudar (supongo), ¿Que quieres hacer con el script? CVS hace el control de versiones automaticamente... en fin. explicate. -- Saludos. Antonio.
Proxy con rsync
Hola debiandantes, ¿Sabéis alguno si se puede utilizar 'rsync' a través de un proxy?. En la ayuda inglesa que viene con pseudo-image-kit no queda muy claro si es posible o no; creo entender que al usar un protocolo no estándar pueden surgir problemas. ¿Sería suficiente con las variables de entorno HTTP_PROXY y FTP_PROXY para que funcionara, como explica para 'make-pseudo-image', o hay que hacer algo más? Muchas gracias por vuestra ayuda. Saludos, Luis mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Plussed users
Hola... Bueno, sea una configuración del servidor de correo o no (que sí lo es, qmail soporta [EMAIL PROTECTED] por ejemplo) es un servicio que ellos prestan. Es igual que si te dejan poner o no páginas personales, es un tema de configuración del servidor de WWW pero un servicio que dan. Visto asi, tiene una explicacion, pero opino que es exagerado tratarlo como servicio, lo del servidor WWW, lo encuentro logico, porque se trata de espacio en disco, pero para lo otro, el espacio para correo ya lo tienes. Ademas en estos tiempos, en los que todo el mundo da cuentas de correo y accesos gratuitos, pues que se yo... Bueno, esto es solo una opinion personal. Saludos. Un saludo Javi On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 08:28:11AM +0200, Angel Vicente Perez wrote: Hola a todos... He consultado con el provvedor que gestiona nuestro dominio, la posibilidad de tener plussed users en las cuentas de correo, es decir [EMAIL PROTECTED], y me ha respondido que es un servicio que no prestan. Yo pienso que mas que un servicio, es una configuracion del servidor de correo. ¿Tiene alguien experiencia en el tema? Saludos. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
NFS
Hola a todos... Tengo instalado el nfs-server basado en kernel, y funciona bien, pero lo encuentro un poco lento, y sobre todo irregular, lo mismo se lia a correr, como que parece que se ha desconectado. Lo estoy probando con clientes basados en NT, pero con estos mismos clientes, los resultados son mucho mejores contra un servidor basado en AIX. ¿Serian mejores las comparticiones basadas en SAMBA, que el NFS? Saludos.
Re: Proxy con rsync
Sabiendo la direccion IP del servidor rsync yo he usado rsync a través de una máquina con proxy squid, pero no usaba el proxy sino que en esta máquina le puse ipmasquerade. Desde donde ejecutaba rsync, le puse que la dirección IP del servidor rsync la alcanzara a través de de este host, pero en este caso el host hacia ipmasquerade y no usaba el proxy squid. Si tu controlas el host que hace de proxy y es Linux, esta es la solución, pero si no ya no sé como lo puedes solucionar. De todas formas, lo que más tarda y sí se puede hacer a través de proxy es bajar los paquetes, el rsync se puede intentar por conexión directa. Saludos
Re: Debian en CDs
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Correcaminos wrote: apt-get install debian-cd Si te falla, comentalo en la lista... Ojo, que para que debian-cd funcione con Potato tal como es ahora, hay que retocar los scripts que buscan las imágenes de disquetes de arranque (al menos en i386)
Re: Proxy con rsync
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Luis Taboada wrote: ¿Sabéis alguno si se puede utilizar 'rsync' a través de un proxy?. man rsync, línea 190 aprox.: You may establish the connetcion via a web proxy by set- ting the environment variable RSYNC_PROXY to a host- name:port pair pointing to your web proxy.
Novato pregunta sobre Lilo de la version Slink
Hola a todos, podrian ayudarme. 1.-- La version que tengo de debian coloca el arrancador lilo en la particion donde esta el debian y asi logro arrancar debian. Antes de ponerme a cacharrear yo solo sobre la configuracion del lilo pregunto. ¿Es posible que el lilo de mi distribucion debian 2.1 slink arranque mi otros sistemas operativos estando el debian en la segunda mitad de mi disco duro de 6.1 Gb? 2.-- Queme mi monitor tratando de instalar Corel linux en mi PC. Despues de destaparlo y moverle todos los botones internos al monitor logre que medio funcionara. Ahora w98 me coloca la imagen bien centradita en la pantalla pero mi linux Debian (y el RH) me botan 2 cm de la imagen por los bordes. ¿alguien tiene una idea de donde consigo informacion 1A sobre xvidtune o semejante? Gracias de antemano.
Re: cat /dev/zeroarchivo
On Tue, 2 May 2000, Danito wrote: Para mi sorpresa esto me dejó totalmente frito el ordenador, es decir que para hacer un nuevo login en un terminal tenía que esperar practicamente un minuto. Lo curioso es que si a la vez hago un top me dice que el cat solo se lleva un 20% de la CPU. Al asesinar el cat con CTRL-C se restablece el funcionamiento natural del ordenata. Lo impresionante de todo esto es que ejecuté el comando como un usuario normal y corriente. Esto tiene que ser un bug del núcleo, y si es un bug es muy fuerte porque con esto un usuario normal y corriente puede petar un ordenador. Uso el núcleo 2.2.14 con la potato. Bueno con un 2.2.12 acabo de hacer la prueba y no es tan dramático. Simplemente se trata de un proceso que gasta excesiva entrada salida. $ vmstat 5 10 procs memoryswapiosystem cpu r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id 3 0 3 3948 1492 44036 6544 0 02 3452 5102 10 0 100 0 1 0 1 3904 1656 4 5880 10 0 38 1141 4395 11 1 99 0 1 0 0 4136 1628 48916 1228 0 471 1912 3953 20 1 98 0 1 1 2 4136 1536 48948 1296 23 0 11 5345 10934 19 7 93 0 1 0 1 4088 1452 48164 2236 80 0 221 1500 3622 55 4 95 2 0 1 1 4088 1608 48052 2248 0 03 4152 84817 5 95 0 .CTRL-C... 0 0 0 4088 1544 48052 2316 0 0 14 17 1797 0 1 99 0 1 0 4068 1436 47164 3328 40 0 1912 493 18 0 5 95 0 0 0 4060 1576 46656 3696 14 0 530 2519 0 1 99 El abuso de los recursos de un sistema es algo que es dificil de evitar cuando se conceden recursos ilimitados a usuarios que supuestamente son de confianza. Otra faena para dejar frito un sistema es hacer un programa en C con una variable enorme y ponerse a hacer accesos aleatorios dentro de un bucle para provocar swaping. Si ademas intentamos abrir el máximo número de ficheros posibles y generar el mayor número de procesos posibles para que todos se pongan simultaneamente a hacer el capuyo dejarás probablemente el sistema catatónico. Si el sistema es un sistema que es crítico los recursos estarán controlados y el tipo de usuarios que manejen el sistema tambien. Por favor probad lo que os he descrito y me contais. A lo mejor estoy equivocado y el problema solo se da en mi ordenador. Ya está probado. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Saludos Antonio +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informatica (tienda linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher !! Nueva direccion email !! | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro. - - - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ (((Donde Linux)))http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: Nueva pagina de Linux de S. Romero.
Si no hay inconveniente por parte de el/los autores, creo que apra guías de programas, manuales técnicos, etc, es más apropiada la Licencia para Documentos de GNU (http://www.gnu.org) Saludos, Jesus. Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a writes: ¿Qué tal si se distribujera como paquete Deiban? i.e. documentación instalada en el usuario. De esta forma la gente no tendría que mirarla en Internet sino que dispondría de una copia local ¿suena bien?. La verdad es que tras haber recopilado los documentos del LDP en paquetes Debian me gustaría tener un paquete doc-linux-es-misc, por ejemplo, que contuviera todo tipo de documentos de Linux en castellano. ¿Qué te parece la idea? Me gustaría que al menos le pusieras una licencia libre a todo el contenido, sugiero utilizar la OpenContent (http://www.opencontent.org) Un saludo Javi On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 06:01:38PM +0200, Santiago Romero wrote: Enas. Ademas de mantener mi página personal en la dirección habitual, http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero , he creado una nueva página que espero sea algo más organizada y de fácil acceso y a la que voy a ir incorporando todo aquello que vaya escribiendo a partir de ahora: http://bash.unizar.es/~nop En concreto he metido entre otras cosas todos los tutoriales que escribí en las news (slrn, mutt, vim, screen, etc.), la Guía Básica de Linux, muchisimos enlaces, etc. Espero que os sea util e interesante... -- Si algo puede fallar, fallará (Murphy). _-_ | NoP / Compiler -- nop @ todolinux.org | |---| | POWERED BY - Linux RedHat 6.0 - Reg. User #74.821 | | http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero | ~-~ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jesus M. Gonzalez Barahona| Grupo de Sistemas y Comunicaciones [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ESCET, Universidad Rey Juan Carlos tel: +34 91 664 74 72 | c/ Tulipan s/n fax: +34 91 664 74 90 | 28933 Mostoles, Spain
whoami?
Le he preguntado eso a una máquina y me dice $ whoami whoami: cannot find username for UID 1003 $ y sin embargo en el /etc/passwd está ... ... diego:x:1003:1001:Diego Bote,,,:/home/diego:/bin/bash ... ¿se os ocurre algo? Saludos y gracias. Diego.
Lista de sites para APT
Alguien podria darme una lista de sites para APT que se actualicen bastante a menudo? EL hecho es que ftp.debian.org me da un connection reset by peer, no se pq, y no consigo bajarme las listas de paquetes, asi que no hay manera de hacer ni el update ni el upgrade... Creo que hay uno por http (tb de debian)... si me lo podeis dar mejor que mejor... gracias por adelantado ___ Pookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 48076200
Mostrar lo bueno de la Comunidad Linux.
Hola Listeros. Dependiendo de una gestion que estoy realizando.. :) sono a politico.. :-) (mostrando a cierto personaje de alta influencia en el sector educativo ;-)) posiblemente implementemos Linux en los algunos colegios de mi ciudad... tedré bastante trabajo..., lo que sucede es que no conozco mucho software educativo para linux.., que ideas me dan para mostrar (tengo que hacer una especie de exposición..) las grandes ventajas que trae linux... (opensource, multitarea, estabilidad, ), mejor dicho como impresiono a unos usuarios que saben muy poco de sistemas, y son 100% windows. Agradeciendo cualquier ayuda al respecto por loca que parezca, Ricardo Rodríguez Colombia. Ricardo Rodríguez Cartago - Colombia Why pay for Internet Service when you can get it for FREE? http://www.nettaxi.com
Re: Proxy con rsync
El jue, 04 may 2000, Antonio AngelSanz Arrospide escribió: Sabiendo la direccion IP del servidor rsync yo he usado rsync a través de una máquina con proxy squid, pero no usaba el proxy sino que en esta máquina le puse ipmasquerade. Desde donde ejecutaba rsync, le puse que la dirección IP del servidor rsync la alcanzara a través de de este host, pero en este caso el host hacia ipmasquerade y no usaba el proxy squid. Si tu controlas el host que hace de proxy y es Linux, esta es la solución, pero si no ya no sé como lo puedes solucionar. De todas formas, lo que más tarda y sí se puede hacer a través de proxy es bajar los paquetes, el rsync se puede intentar por conexión directa. Quisiera utilizarlo para bajarme las imagenes .raw de potato, no los paquetes, utilizando la version de Windows, y entorno Windows( lo hago en currele, con RDSI ), por lo que no me vale. Gracias. Saludos -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Proxy con rsync
El jue, 04 may 2000, Fernando Sanchez escribió: On Thu, 4 May 2000, Luis Taboada wrote: ¿Sabéis alguno si se puede utilizar 'rsync' a través de un proxy?. man rsync, línea 190 aprox.: You may establish the connetcion via a web proxy by set- ting the environment variable RSYNC_PROXY to a host- name:port pair pointing to your web proxy. Gracias. En la versión de windows no viene página de manual
Re: Nueva pagina de Linux de S. Romero.
El jue, may 04, 2000 at 11:03:29 +0200 Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona va dir: Si no hay inconveniente por parte de el/los autores, creo que apra guías de programas, manuales técnicos, etc, es más apropiada la Licencia para Documentos de GNU (http://www.gnu.org) cierto, de hecho la FSF desaconseja el uso de la Open Content pues no la considera libre (no confundir, con la Open Publication License, que si lo es). salu2 miquel Saludos, Jesus. Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a writes: ¿Qué tal si se distribujera como paquete Deiban? i.e. documentación instalada en el usuario. De esta forma la gente no tendría que mirarla en Internet sino que dispondría de una copia local ¿suena bien?. La verdad es que tras haber recopilado los documentos del LDP en paquetes Debian me gustaría tener un paquete doc-linux-es-misc, por ejemplo, que contuviera todo tipo de documentos de Linux en castellano. ¿Qué te parece la idea? Me gustaría que al menos le pusieras una licencia libre a todo el contenido, sugiero utilizar la OpenContent (http://www.opencontent.org) Un saludo Javi On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 06:01:38PM +0200, Santiago Romero wrote: Enas. Ademas de mantener mi página personal en la dirección habitual, http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero , he creado una nueva página que espero sea algo más organizada y de fácil acceso y a la que voy a ir incorporando todo aquello que vaya escribiendo a partir de ahora: http://bash.unizar.es/~nop En concreto he metido entre otras cosas todos los tutoriales que escribí en las news (slrn, mutt, vim, screen, etc.), la Guía Básica de Linux, muchisimos enlaces, etc. Espero que os sea util e interesante... -- Si algo puede fallar, fallará (Murphy). _-_ | NoP / Compiler -- nop @ todolinux.org | |---| | POWERED BY - Linux RedHat 6.0 - Reg. User #74.821 | | http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero | ~-~ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jesus M. Gonzalez Barahona| Grupo de Sistemas y Comunicaciones [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ESCET, Universidad Rey Juan Carlos tel: +34 91 664 74 72 | c/ Tulipan s/n fax: +34 91 664 74 90 | 28933 Mostoles, Spain -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: whoami?
* [2504 15:38] Diego Bote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) decia: Le he preguntado eso a una máquina y me dice $ whoami whoami: cannot find username for UID 1003 $ y sin embargo en el /etc/passwd está ... ... diego:x:1003:1001:Diego Bote,,,:/home/diego:/bin/bash ... ¿se os ocurre algo? Hola incorrectos permisos en /etc/passwd? (lease que todo el mundo no tenga permiso de lectura) Saludos -- Daniel H. Perez a veces Tango [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fui lo que crei, soy lo que esta pasando (Charly Garcia) Linux Usuario Reg. N. 85920
Primera pregunta (apt-get)
Enas. Como redhatero y (tal vez?) futuro potatero :) que soy me veo obligado a preguntar qué es exactamente apt y apt-get (me vale con una descripcion de una o dos lineas) y como se usa... tengo idea de que es, pero me quiero guardar los posts-respuesta como oro en paño para cuando instale debian :) nos vemos. -- Telefonica - (N., sin acento) Dícese de la compañía de teléfonos que usando las líneas pagadas por todos los españoles nos estafa cada día con precios abusivos y conexiones dignas de países del tercer mundo. Ver también: monopolio, gobierno, PP, Az-nar y retraso tecnológico. _-_ | NoP / Compiler -- nop @ todolinux.org | |---| | POWERED BY - Linux RedHat 6.0 - Reg. User #74.821 | | http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero | ~-~
RE: Diccionario inglés-castellano ?
-Mensaje original- De: Javier Fafián Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: viernes 28 de abril de 2000 23:25 Asunto: Re: Diccionario inglés-castellano ? Buenas Me preguntaba si alguno de ustedes conoceria algún diccionario de inglés-castellano, yo tengo uno, el qi2c, pero es en modo gráfico, sobre qt encima !, y me gustaría saber si conoceis algo que rule en modo texto ( yo soy tope modo texto ) :) Como te ha comentado Santiago Romero el i2e lleva un script para modo texto (el qi2e no lo lleva) pero como el diccionario está en texto plano puedes usar también el grep de toda la vida. Unos ejemplos: rvmsoft:/tmp$ grep patata /usr/share/i2e/i2e.dict chips (plural) : patatas fritas (plural) potato : patata rvmsoft:/tmp$ grep keyboard /usr/share/i2e/i2e.dict detachable keyboard : teclado desmontable keyboard layout : disposición del teclado numeric keyboard : teclado numérico Además hace unos días hice un paquete del diccionario del i2e para el dict. Puedes bajarte el fuente (el binario aún no lo he subido) aquí: http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft/qi2e/i2edict_1.0.tar.gz Ejemplo: rvmsoft:/tmp$ dict link 2 definitions found From i2e [i2e]: link : enlace (en documentos HTML) From i2e [i2e]: link : eslabón -- Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft
RE: Diccionario inglés-castellano ?
-Mensaje original- De: Santiago Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: martes 2 de mayo de 2000 23:42 Asunto: Re: Diccionario inglés-castellano ? El mar, 02 de may de 2000, a las 12:38:43 +0200, Javier Fafián Alvarez dijo: ¿Donde conseguirlo? En la pagina del autor: (hay paquetes debian :). http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.htm Perdón pero la dirección de trivino no existe o almenos yo no puedo conectarme a ella, y en la otra la versión para consola no la encuentro, alguna otra dirección ? la version consola viene _dentro_ de la version X. Es decir, son el mismo programa, que genera 2 programas (version x y version sh) a mi esa pagina si que me va (o me iba hace 1 semana). Sí, pero te equivocaste en la dirección. La correcta es la que ha dado Alfredo. -- Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft
Re: installation av qt
Det hära bör fixa ditt problem! ./configure --qt-includes=/var/du/har/qt/includes On Thu, 4 May 2000, Henrik Andersson wrote: Hej Jag försöker installera QT, men har stött på vissa problem... Kompileringen funkar bra men trots att QTDIR är rätt inställd kan jag inte kompilera kdesupport. Det verkar som om inkluderingsfilerna inte hittas. Hur ställer jag in sökvägen till dem? Provade att lägga till en rad i ld.so.conf och köra ldconf, men det hjälpte inte. -- Henrik Andersso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation av qt
Rättelselse: ./configure --with-qt-includes=/var/du/har/qt/includes On Thu, 4 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Det hära bör fixa ditt problem! ./configure --qt-includes=/var/du/har/qt/includes On Thu, 4 May 2000, Henrik Andersson wrote: Hej Jag försöker installera QT, men har stött på vissa problem... Kompileringen funkar bra men trots att QTDIR är rätt inställd kan jag inte kompilera kdesupport. Det verkar som om inkluderingsfilerna inte hittas. Hur ställer jag in sökvägen till dem? Provade att lägga till en rad i ld.so.conf och köra ldconf, men det hjälpte inte. -- Henrik Andersso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: coordenacao das traducoes
Eu estou com o manual de instalação para todas as arquiteturas e mantendo o boot-floppies que o LinuxLabs traduziu. Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: Olá PessoALL, Andei olhando os arquivos das listas para descobrir como andam as traduções e poder ajudar mas não consegui ter certeza de quem está com o que e qual a situação atual. Minha dúvida então é: nós temos algum tipo de controle sobre como está o andamento das traduções? Pelas mensagens, o Paulo Baptista estava com o dpkg e o Marcelo Elias perguntou sobre o dselect e o console-apt. Abraços []s Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 http://www.revistalinux.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Gleyson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice
Adriano Freitas wrote: Mais uma mensagem para ver se a lista volta a ativa :) O assunto da moda é o StarOffice... Só que como todo mundo sabe, ele tem algumas limitações na hora da impressão. O problema principal é na impressão de fontes TrueType. Li na documentação do StarOffice a sugestão que a empresa adotou para a impressão de fontes TrueType, porém não gostei muito (não cheguei a testar). Alguém conhece alguma maneira, não necessariamente fácil, de fazer o StarOffice enxergar as fontes TrueType e imprimí-las? De preferência alguma que encaixe na Debian Não. Aparentemente o melhor processo é o de conversão de fontes TrueType para Type1, mas o trabalho é Hercúleo. Ainda não tive coragem. Alias, vocês estão instalando o StarOffice em /opt?? /usr/local/bin/Office51 Cláudio
Re: cdrecord question
On 05/03, Andrew Kae wrote:
Hello,
I have a Matsushita (Panasonic) 7582 IDE cdr. I've read
through the CD-Writing Howto but I am still confused about
one thing.
Is it possible to write files and directories to a cd without making
an image first?
It can be done, I've never tried it, so I don't know if it's really
a good idea or not. According to the CD-Writing howto, you can pipe
the output of mkisofs to cdrecord, like so:
shell IMG_SIZE=`mkisofs -R -q -print-size private_collection/ 21 \
| sed -e s/.* = //`
shell echo $IMG_SIZE shell [ 0$IMG_SIZE -ne 0 ] \
mkisofs -r private_collection/ \
|cdrecord speed=2 dev=0,6,0
tsize=${IMG_SIZE}s -data -
#Don't forget the s --^^-- read data from STDIN
The success of this depends greatly on the speed of your machine. You
definitely won't want to run any hard-disk intensive process while this
is going on.
Hope this helps.
--
Cory T. Echols
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, please. PCI128 sound card seen, but not heard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the 2.2.14 kernel on an Asus k7V mb(Athlon), and have compiled into the kernel the ES1371 sound driver. On bootup the card is detected at irq 10 and a memory address of 0x9000 (which does NOT happen with the ES1370 driver). I have added myself (as a normal user) to the audio and cdrom groups, and have installed several mixers to ensure the master volume (and everything else, in frustration) is cranked up. No sound whatsoever. Cd plays (lights up), but nothing else. All cables are set properly. It works under Winblows98 with no alterations, and I've confirmed the irq/mem settings there. Same settings on both systems for other cards too, with no conflicts. I have a Voodoo 3 AGP and an SMC 10/100 card in other slots. I installed a modules-ready 2.2.14 kernel and the latest version of the ALSA drivers, compiled according to directions, reconf'd the alias file for modules, and again see the card being ID'd (and again, the ens1370.o module does Not work). No sound. Mixer again agressively manipulated with no results. :\ I haven't run across anything helpful in the list archives, and the only suggestion for no sound in the docs is the use of the mixer (and I used the alsamixer for that module). Can anyone offer some advice here?? Thanks! Compiling the OSS driver direct into the kernel should be OK; try and get that working before attempting the switch to ALSA. What does cat /dev/sndstat give you? If there is no /dev/sndstat, you need to create the relevant /dev entries. Try cd /dev ./MAKEDEV audio Jonathan
potato ready for ip-masquerade, or need to recompile kernel?
Can't seem to find the answer for this simple question in the FAQs and HOWTOs: does the standard potato install have ip-masquerade compiled into it as it comes from the Debian site, or do I need to recompile the kernel to to get this option? TIA! Stan
KDE various deb - matters
Hi list! I have set up everything necessary to get the right X-Server running. It runs fine, I'm using the Mach64 server for my ATI Rage Pro. When calling startx, I get to a desktop with just a single terminal opened. Doing Ctrl-D ends the session. I guess the next thing to do is to install a window manager, right? I want KDE and so I wonder how I should install that? Which packages are necessary and is there anything additional I _should_ know about? Which (K-)packages do you suggest me to install apart from that? One thing I'll surely _need_ is mail, of course. :-) I'm pretty used to Outlook Express Netscape's Mail, so what package would give me an appropriate K-replacement for those? Apart from that debian runs happily smoothly on my pII. :-) Thinking of moving a suse box to debian. Oh, yes, one last thing. I've built kernels before, just not on debian. So, to build a new kernel, I know I need the following packages for sure: -gcc -kernel-source (is that the package-name?) -make -libraries ... ? Anything else? Probably ... I also need a good way for finding package-names. Your help is greatly appreciated! Sven
Re: cdrecord question
But of course you can ... from the cdrecord manpage: If the overall speed of the system is sufficient and the structure of the filesystem is not too complex, cdrecord will run without creating an image of the ISO 9660 filesystem. Simply run the pipeline: mkisofs -R /master/tree | cdrecord -v fs=6m speed=2 dev=2,0 - Sean Johann Spies wrote: No you can not write a CD without making an imagefile. The imagefile does not have to be 650 meg. You can use the rewrite option (I use it for my daily backups on a CD-RW). If you do not have enough HD-space I would suggest that you smaller images and write them incrementally.
Re: Help, please. PCI128 sound card seen, but not heard
On Wed, May 03, 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ALSA install put every module they support into there. I modified /etc/modutils/alias to try both the ens1370 and ens1371 modules. The 1370 failed to detect anything. The 1371 did, but still no sound. have a look at the ALSA FAQ at www.alsa-project.org. could it be that you forgot to unmute and/or correct the volumes with the mixer? by default everything is muted, afaik. -moritz -- #Moritz Schulte - [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Registered LINUX-User #13308 # # PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome # # Home: http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ #
Re: what does [shellutils on hurd] mean?
I got no idea what it means, but: Why the hell are you trying to do a dist-upgrade when you are running woody!?!?!?!??!?!?!!! Ron Rademaker On Wed, 3 May 2000, Dan Christensen wrote: Lately when I've been doing 'apt-get -s dist-upgrade' on my woody system I often get dozens of things like Inst kernel-package [shellutils on hurd] Can someone tell me what this means? Thanks. Dan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
OT: www.apache.org
Anyone seen the Powered by Microsoft Backoffice logo at www.apache.org? What's up with that? :) -- Marcin Kurc Indiana Institute of Technology System Administrator http://me.indtech.edu http://www.indtech.edu
overhead slides?
Hello, Is there any DFSG free software for producing overhead slides? Something like seminar.sty (latex) would be ideal, but thats in tetex-nonfree. Also, gs often produces the following fatal gs error when viewing it with gv. :-(. Error: /undefinedGNU Ghostscript: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 in BOL Operand stack: (all) Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 5 5 %oparray_pop Dictionary stack: --dict:777/809-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:55/200-- --dict:118/300-- (not sure what program is at fault here... I don't know much postscript.) If nothing better exists, I will use it anyway, but just curious what other options might exist. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software
Let me reply to myself here. This kinda came off wrong. On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:15:37PM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote: Linux[1] is much more difficult (to learn anyway) yet much more powerful than, say, windows. The Windows philosophy is: don't think, everything should be easy. With linux, you must think. The windows philosophy seems to rub off onto the rest of one's life (or maybe it's the other way around). Some people don't like to think, and windows encourages this. Linux, on the other hand, makes and encourages you to think. Hopefully, this will rub off onto the rest of your life and make you a better person. Yes, Linux can make you a better person. For me, Linux makes me think. For others, windows may make them think. For still others, something else (not computer related) may make them think. If linux makes you think, good. If windows makes you think, good. If something else makes you think, good. If nothing makes you think, then I you truly have my sympathy. So, linux can make you a better person by encouraging thought; windows can too; almost anything else can too. When I think of windows users, however, I think of two of my friends talking about Aol Instant Messanger: first friend: Hey, you should download AIM. second friend: But I have Hotmail [or something, I'm not 100% sure] Messanger [and I don't use it]. I have to figure out how to uninstall that first. me: you can have them both installed at once. second friend: I don't know. I'm gonna try to uninstall it. But not everyone's like that. My point is that you shouldn't go through life with your head under the sand. For me, maybe, linux has helped me learn some stuff which hopefully rubs off into other facets of my life [some might say, based on these posts, that linux (or something anyway) has turned me into a complete idiot, but I think it has helped]. Windows may help some others (but of course, I'd rather see everyone running free software). -- Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New kernel (2.2.15), now keyboard/machine freezes often
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 05:38:17PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote: I've just compiled and installed a new kernel (version 2.2.15) on a friend's Toshiba laptop. He has emailed me today complaining about keyboard freezes. Actually, I'm not sure from his comments, whether it is just the keyboard that freezes or the whole computer. [snip]... 2. A problem with APM options in the kernel. Are there any options to watch out for with the Toshiba Tecra 8000? Do you have append apm=on in /etc/lilo.conf? some things changed about apm settings lately, IIRC. My workstation doesn't do power off on shutdown anymore without passing apm=power-off to the kernel on boot, for example. This is something that changed since 2.2.14. Where can I read about these options? Cheers, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
Re: Help, please. PCI128 sound card seen, but not heard
Did you compile in the 'sound' module or leave it as a module? I've seen these symptoms once when the 'sound' module was not loaded. Gregg Berkholtz On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 10:19:16AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the 2.2.14 kernel on an Asus k7V mb(Athlon), and have compiled into the kernel the ES1371 sound driver. On bootup the card is detected at irq 10 and a memory address of 0x9000 (which does NOT happen with the ES1370 driver). I have added myself (as a normal user) to the audio and cdrom groups, and have installed several mixers to ensure the master volume (and everything else, in frustration) is cranked up. No sound whatsoever. Cd plays (lights up), but nothing else. All cables are set properly. It works under Winblows98 with no alterations, and I've confirmed the irq/mem settings there. Same settings on both systems for other cards too, with no conflicts. I have a Voodoo 3 AGP and an SMC 10/100 card in other slots. I installed a modules-ready 2.2.14 kernel and the latest version of the ALSA drivers, compiled according to directions, reconf'd the alias file for modules, and again see the card being ID'd (and again, the ens1370.o module does Not work). No sound. Mixer again agressively manipulated with no results. :\ I haven't run across anything helpful in the list archives, and the only suggestion for no sound in the docs is the use of the mixer (and I used the alsamixer for that module). Can anyone offer some advice here?? Thanks! Kenward (at work, under NT :( ) .'^~;,_ Dr. Kenward Vaughan ':,^' Professor of Chemistry\;:/ Bakersfield College |,;| Bakersfield, CA 93305 / ', \ / o O \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (oOoOOoOo) ------ ???$$MM$$??? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Gregg Berkholtz GB Computers -- Why fly when you can strut. --
Re: what does [shellutils on hurd] mean?
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 12:41:52AM +0200, Ron Rademaker wrote: I got no idea what it means, but: Why the hell are you trying to do a dist-upgrade when you are running woody!?!?!?!??!?!?!!! dist-upgrade does not simply mean upgrade from one release to another. It means to take extra things into account. Mainly, if upgrading a package requires installing or removing another package, apt-get will not upgrade it unless you specify install implicitly for the package, or do a dist-upgrade, which forces upgrading all packages. In a very unstable dist, it is quite common to be required to run dist-upgrade throughout the life of it, simply because it is so dynamic and changes frequently. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: what does [shellutils on hurd] mean?
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 12:41:52AM +0200, Ron Rademaker wrote: I got no idea what it means, but: Why the hell are you trying to do a dist-upgrade when you are running woody!?!?!?!??!?!?!!! Well, one might like the fact that dist-upgrade will make sure dependencies are handled correctly. Possibly a good thing when tracking and unstable branch since the dependencies sometimes change. from apt-get upgrade man page: under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages not already installed retrieved and installed. vs. dist-upgrade: dist-upgrade,in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; Ron Rademaker On Wed, 3 May 2000, Dan Christensen wrote: Lately when I've been doing 'apt-get -s dist-upgrade' on my woody system I often get dozens of things like Inst kernel-package [shellutils on hurd] Can someone tell me what this means? Thanks. Dan Something to do with the Hurd port?? Did anything bad happen? -- ¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·characterset·when·compos » ing·email·messages.
Re: what does [shellutils on hurd] mean?
dist-upgrade can be used for more than just moving between major versions (slink-potato-woody). Ever notice how when you do an apt-get upgrade you sometimes see the following packages have been held back... What this means is that an upgrade of those packages could really shake things up, and, in fact, they probably can't be upgraded without installing NEW packages. For exmple, package Foo may be held back on a normal upgrade because the version you have depends on package Bar, but the new version depends on both Bar and Baz. Normal update will generall hold package X back. dist-upgrade won't. Remember the whole net-standard shake up halfway through potato? In orget to get from the pre-netstd-shakup potao to the post-netstd-shakeup potato, you needed to do a dist-upgrade, *part way through the release*. Same deal now. Really, depending on which packages you have installed, a dist-upgrade may or not be necessary. The long and sort dof all this is that the occational dist-upgrade will help keep you on top of the major shake-ups that occur time to time in the unstable branch. Hope this helps, Bryan On 03-May-2000 Ron Rademaker wrote: what it means, but: Why the hell are you trying to do a dist-upgrade when you are running woody!?!?!?!??!?!?!!! Ron Rademaker On Wed, 3 May 2000, Dan Christensen wrote: Lately when I've been doing 'apt-get -s dist-upgrade' on my woody system I often get dozens of things like Inst kernel-package [shellutils on hurd] Can someone tell me what this means? Thanks. Dan
(alsa) snd: card is out of range (0-0)
Hi all I've been trying to get my sound card going with alsa. It is a SB32 (pro) and is said to be supported. I'm using 2.2.14. Everythsnd: card is out of range (0-0)ing looks good at the compiling and configuration stages, but when I reboot I get isapnp: Card 'Creative SB32 PnP' isapnp: 1 Plug Play card detected total snd: card is out of range (0-0) snd: Sound Blaster 16 soundcard #1 not found at 0x220 or device busy I'm using the same settings that I use with windoze for the IRQ etc. Any ideas? Help would be most welcome! TIA Richard
Re: overhead slides?
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 09:22:23AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
Is there any DFSG free software for producing overhead slides?
Something like seminar.sty (latex) would be ideal, but thats in
tetex-nonfree. Also, gs often produces the following fatal gs error
when viewing it with gv. :-(.
errors snipped
If nothing better exists, I will use it anyway, but just curious what
other options might exist.
As of Latex2E, there is a slide class as part of the base package.
Since it's pretty short, I'll throw in a one slide sample.
- Begin sample file -
\documentclass[a4paper,clock]{slides}
% The clock option lets you put timings onto the notes
\begin{document}
% This is basically just a cover sheet.
\begin{center}\Large\bfseries
Sample Viewgraphs
\end{center}
% Here we begin the start of the acrtual slide.
\begin{slide}
\begin{center}\Large Advantage of \texttt{slides}\end{center}
\begin{itemize}
\item Uses special fonts
\item Forces key words instead of long text
% This keyword and ...
\invisible
\item Supports color layers
% ... this keyword get explained shortly.
\visible
\end{itemize}
Color commands may be used {\invisible as color layers}
\end{slide}
% The slide class lets you do overlays. In the slide section
% above, the text after the \invisible and before the \visible
% won't get printed. If you then do a copy and paste into a
% section for the overlay, and then change the \visible to
% \invisible and vice versa you get an overlay with just the
% parts missing from the slide.
\begin{overlay}
\invisible
\begin{center}\Large Advantage of \texttt{slides}\end{center}
\begin{itemize}
\item Uses special fonts
\item Forces key words instead of long text
\visible
\item Supports color layers
\invisible
\end{itemize}
Color commands may be used {\visible as color layers}
\end{overlay}
% This is the command to put a timing onto a note. A counter is
% initialized to 0, and then time can be added or subtracted
% using the \addtime command. There is also a \settime command
% The value in the {} is in seconds, and is displayed as minutes
% and seconds on the note.
\addtime{300}
\begin{note}
Add the overlay only for \LaTeX~2.09
\end{note}
\end{document}
- End sample file -
I can't say for sure that this will do what you want, but it
might at least be close. And the slide.cls is contained in the
tetex base package, so it is free.
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Re: Coda filesystem?
On 3 May 2000, Christoph Gaitzsch wrote: I use it on my laptop with my home machine as Coda-Server, and I like it very much. I keep my diary and address-files there, and some other stuff I want to share. If it keeps beeing stable, I will put more stuff in the shared directories. How do you deal with local cache overflow? When the link is disconnected, any updates will be done on the local cache, but if it overflows, no message generated. I don't think that Unix quota would handle Coda caches. I think Coda client needs some improvement regarding local cache. Oki
Re: php3-mode for xemacs
martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: short question: does anyone know of a php3 mode for xemacs? developing php3 in html-mode is sort of annoying :-) http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~baryudin/php3_mode.html -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Help, please. PCI128 sound card seen, but not heard
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 05:25:14PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you compile in the 'sound' module or leave it as a module? I've seen these symptoms once when the 'sound' module was not loaded. Yes. The es1371 driver is compiled directly into the kernel. I recompiled the kernel (as another image and choice under lilo) with module support to use with the ALSA drivers. That too seemed to work properly (detection of a card) but still no sound.. :( Kenward
Re: where are wmakers config files?
Ron Farrer said: Hmm.. WPrefs doesn't do what I need. Here's the deal: when ever I log in (gdm + Gnome-Session) wmaker loads gmc (I can clearly see it in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMState) and I cannot get it to stop. I also would like to rename the workspaces and have the name stick. I cannot choose save session in wmaker as when I log in I end up with two panels, two gmcs... Any suggestions? wmakerconf. It's a separate package that you have to install, but I haven't even looked at WPrefs since trying out the latest version. (Older versions overlapped in functionality, but had a lot of things that one tool could set but the other couldn't. The current wmakerconf, though, is a superset of WPrefs.) -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Now Can't Mount the CDROM
Hi, Thanks everyone for your help so far. I was able to get the cdrom module installed by using modconf. Now, however, I can't get the cdrom to mount, and the archives and howtos are of no help. Using the normal mount command, I get special device does not exist or sonycd is not a block device, basically no matter what. The same thing happens when trying to install applications from dselect: nothing I type in is recognized as a block device. This is on a 486 with a Sony CDU33A cdrom. Using lsmod the device driver for the cdrom does show up. Any tips/strategies? Thank you! Best Wishes, Manu In a message dated 5/3/00 2:48:48 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I mean, which Compact Disc vendor (CheapBytes, O'Rielly, etc.). It's O'Reilly. I was able to successfully install and configure the base system by using floppies (I needed the drivers disk and the 8 base 14 floppies). However, no module worked for my CD-ROM drive. The closest one was the Sony CDU31A, but it didn't work (I got a device in use and two syntax error messages). Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get the system to recognize the CD-ROM drive now? That is the correct driver, it works for both cdu31a and cdu33a using /dev/sonycd. As root: lsmod will tell you if the sonycd.o module is already installed, if grep sonycd /boot/System.map* gets lot of hits then the driver is compiled into the kernel.
LS-120 install
hi, I was trying to install debian (frozen) on my laptop the other day but got stuckon the following. i have a LS-120 drive (for superdisks which is backwards compatible with 1.44MB disks) which i was using to boot the install disk. the images i used were the ones from the idepci subdirectory. the system started booting, the image on the floppy started booting as well until it gave the following message: Insert the root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press Enter. (or something like that) i tried pressing enter with the disk i had used to boot from since i believe that's all i needed (i was gonna do an harddrive install with base2_2.tgz on another linux partition). i even tried the driver disk just in case... nothing seemed to do it... am i doing something wrong with the disks i'm using or is it a problem with the LS-120 support? thanks for any help, thomas __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Help, please. PCI128 sound card seen, but not heard
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 10:28:01PM +0100, Jonathan Heaney wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the 2.2.14 kernel on an Asus k7V mb(Athlon), and have compiled ... Compiling the OSS driver direct into the kernel should be OK; try and get that working before attempting the switch to ALSA. What does cat /dev/sndstat give you? If there is no /dev/sndstat, you need to create the relevant /dev entries. Try cd /dev ./MAKEDEV audio cat /dev/sndstat gives no such file. It is in /dev but not active (if that's the way to decribe it..) Audio already exists (and I'm in that group), but I remade it just in case. No change. You refer to the OSS driver... Which one is that?? Is that the ES1371?? There certainly are no entries under the OSS chioce which appear to fit the PCI128 (unless I'm supposed to treat it as a SB16???). I currently have the es1371 compiled into the kernel. Kenward
Re: Passing an input file through mail.
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Corey Popelier wrote: Heres the deal - I dial into my ISP, and get allocated a random IP address, ie. I do not have a static IP, and cannot obtain one with my current ISP. What I would like to do, is on dialing in, pipe my ifconfig ppp0 to a file, and mail that to my work address as follows: My impression is that all you need is to know what IP number you have during a PPP session. Why don't you use Gnudip? http://gnudip.cheapnet.net. You can register for a username (which later becomes your hostname) using the web form. You need gnudip package for your client machine. Usage: gdipc -c (then enter username, password, domain: dyn.cheapnet.net, gnudip server: gnudip.cheapnet.net) When your ppp link is up, enter gdipc; if successful, you can ping pancreas.dyn.cheapnet.net for your current IP number (if your username is pancreas). Oki
Re: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software
Pat == Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pat For me, Linux makes me think. For others, windows may make Pat them think. For still others, something else (not computer Pat related) may make them think. If linux makes you think, Pat good. If windows makes you think, good. If something else Pat makes you think, good. If nothing makes you think, then I you Pat truly have my sympathy. For me, the problem with Windows is you have to think when thinking should not be required. Take for instance, autoexec.bat. I know a Windows computer, that whenever it starts, it flashes up with the message Bad command or filename for a few seconds until it goes away. However, it doesn't give the important information: what command cannot be found? what line is it on? So, instead of going directly to the bad line (like you would for any Unix based interpreter), you have to do a lot of fiddling just to find out which line is bad. I have had similar problems for out of environment space errors (I never remember or can find how to change it, although it seems to be fixed now) and programs that automatically add lines like: PATH %PATH;c:\newprogram which fails when %PATH% contains a directory with spaces (trial and error suggests that correct quoting helps). Perhaps Windows 2000 won't require autoexec.bat, I will believe it when I see it. However, I encounter similar problems throughout Windows (especially device drivers). So, the way I see it, with Windows you always need to be thinking There is a bug in this program. It won't say why it is crashing. What is the best work around?. With Unix, you get more descriptive feedback of what the program is doing (eg look at the output of dpkg), and I have never had problems with a device driver suddenly going broken, requiring a complete re-installation of the OS. You don't have to try and second guess what the computer might be trying to do. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passing an input file through mail.
It did fix the problem of the mail command line not working, the problem
of the unqualified host name error insendmail logs still exists, although
everything does work :)
Cheers,
Corey Popelier
http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Jason Zdan wrote:
define('confDOMAIN_NAME',`$w.dingoblue.net.au')dnl
define('SMART_HOST',`mail.dingoblue.net.au')dnl
FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl
I admit I don't know much about sendmail, but it seems to me that the
$w.dingoblue.net.au would add the pancreas to the front of your domain
name. Maybe try dingoblue.net.au instead?
My apologies if I'm dead wrong :)
J.
Re: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software
I take an extremely simplistic view. I'd use Windows more if it didn't crash 20 times a day. That's why I use Linux. Simple. Cheers, Corey Popelier http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4 May 2000, Brian May wrote: Pat == Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pat For me, Linux makes me think. For others, windows may make Pat them think. For still others, something else (not computer Pat related) may make them think. If linux makes you think, Pat good. If windows makes you think, good. If something else Pat makes you think, good. If nothing makes you think, then I you Pat truly have my sympathy. For me, the problem with Windows is you have to think when thinking should not be required. Take for instance, autoexec.bat. I know a Windows computer, that whenever it starts, it flashes up with the message Bad command or filename for a few seconds until it goes away. However, it doesn't give the important information: what command cannot be found? what line is it on? So, instead of going directly to the bad line (like you would for any Unix based interpreter), you have to do a lot of fiddling just to find out which line is bad. I have had similar problems for out of environment space errors (I never remember or can find how to change it, although it seems to be fixed now) and programs that automatically add lines like: PATH %PATH;c:\newprogram which fails when %PATH% contains a directory with spaces (trial and error suggests that correct quoting helps). Perhaps Windows 2000 won't require autoexec.bat, I will believe it when I see it. However, I encounter similar problems throughout Windows (especially device drivers). So, the way I see it, with Windows you always need to be thinking There is a bug in this program. It won't say why it is crashing. What is the best work around?. With Unix, you get more descriptive feedback of what the program is doing (eg look at the output of dpkg), and I have never had problems with a device driver suddenly going broken, requiring a complete re-installation of the OS. You don't have to try and second guess what the computer might be trying to do. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Boot problem
I'm a newbie to Debian. I bought a book entitled Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 from SAMS. It had a single Debian CD in the back. From what I can tell from the documentation, the CD was made sometime last November. After reading the installation appendix, I tried installing from the CD. The system hung booting the initial kernel. So I read the installation HTML file on the CD, built a rescue floppy, tried booting from that, as per the documentation. Again, the system hung booting the initial kernel. The symptom is that the boot process hangs at the line: md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 My system is an Athlon 700, Asus K7M, 256MB RAM, Conner Technology CT204 (4100 MB) on IDE-0, Plextor CD-R PX-W8432T ATAPI CD-RW drive on IDE-1, ATI PCI video card (primary), 3dfx AGP video card (secondary), SB-Live PCI512 sound card, LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 NIC. Any idea why the initial kernel hangs before starting the boot script? regards, -jim p.s. I *have* installed Corel Linux on the system, so I'm reasonably sure that some form of Debian works with this hardware. It's just the (a) I don't care for Corel Linux, and (b) I've never been able to get enough support from Corel to get either my sound card or my network card to work. I figured I would be better off with a pure Debian solution.
Re: Help, please. PCI128 sound card seen, but not heard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 05:25:14PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you compile in the 'sound' module or leave it as a module? I've seen these symptoms once when the 'sound' module was not loaded. Yes. The es1371 driver is compiled directly into the kernel. I recompiled the kernel (as another image and choice under lilo) with module support to use with the ALSA drivers. That too seemed to work properly (detection of a card) but still no sound.. :( I don't know that much about ALSA, but I think you're supposed to have everything compiled as modules for it to work. If I were you (and, indeed, this is what I did since I have an sb128, too), I would ditch all the ALSA stuff, compile sound and the es1371 driver into your kernel (which I believe you've already done), run aumix to set the volume, and play. Appearently, ALSA has some advantages over the standard kernel drivers, but you should get it working before you try to get fancy :-) HTH, cbb
Re: potato ready for ip-masquerade, or need to recompile kernel?
does the standard potato install have ip-masquerade compiled into it as it comes from the Debian site, or do I need to recompile the kernel to to get this option? recompile -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
nn installed, but where is nnmaster
ii nn 6.5.1-7Heavy-duty USENET news reader Hello, nn package broken? leafnode is installed and works fine, read my news with gnus, read my news with lynx, even read them news with $ telnet localhost nntp ;-) but then I decided to convert to another newsreader, and really would like to give nn a try. $ nn could not fetch active file ( the same goes for any option, even for $ nn --help ) A strace on nn informes me: ... open(/var/lib/news/active, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) ... The documentation explains about a database, how nnmaster maintains it, and it explains about an active file. The nnmaster (8) manpage was installed ( in accordance to /var/lib/dpkg/info/nn.list ), I change to root: # nnTAB nn nncheck nngrep nnpost nntidy nnview there seems to be no nnmaster programm: not in the nn-package not anywhere else on my potato cds ( checked the Contents-i386.gz file directly on the disks ) not on my system ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/.../NN_Frequently_Asked_Questions_ ... didn't make me any wiser. How could it be, what's wrong? thanks max.
Re: file transfers to Win2K
ftp is probably a good choice. Samba works too, but I have been told, and have found that it's relatively inefficient--lower throughput that ftp. In scripts running from NT 4 or 5 I've noticed that MS shares tend to drop after a period of inactivity. While this is fine, they don't get reconnected when you try to access them. So if my script looks for I:foo.txt, and I: is a mapping for a drive, it will report it's unavailable until you manually click on the share in Explorer. Security is potentially an issue regardless of what method you choose. On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 03:52:00PM +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya what would be the best way to routinely (ie. daily) transfer 500MB worth of image files from a linux system to a Windows 2000 or NT? would ftp be the best choice or is it prone to bad behaviour if unsupervised? Zane -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
potato intallation failed
Hello, I'm installing potato from floppies, and when I try to load the kernel modules, I get: modprobe: Can't open /target/etc/modules.conf and Installation failed. Anyone else had this happen? Tia. -- David Karlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
Re: cdrecord question
Andrew Kae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it possible to write files and directories to a cd without making an image first? I don't have 650 MB of my hard drive to spare for an image file. In Windoze, Adaptec EZ-CD recorder can take in a list of files and then just burn them to a cd. It seems to me the only way to make data cds is to make an image first and then use cdrecord to make the image into a cd. You don't need to make an image first. From the manpage of cdrecord: If the overall speed of the system is sufficient and the structure of the filesystem is not too complex, cdrecord will run without creating an image of the ISO 9660 filesystem. Simply run the pipeline: mkisofs -R /master/tree | cdrecord -v fs=6m speed=2 dev=2,0 - -- Mike Fabian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: php3-mode for xemacs
Quoth martin, short question: does anyone know of a php3 mode for xemacs? developing php3 in html-mode is sort of annoying :-) Short answer - not that I know of, but I've heard that some of the various C modes work well. I personally use gvim. If vi is not your cup-of-tea, so be it, but the syntax hilighting that it has for php is excelent. It does get a little confused sometimes tho, and forget what is html and what is php (i jump between the two a log), but other than that, I have no complaints. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) / It's not a sense of humor. * Criminologist / It's a sense of irony * Webmeister / disguised as one. * Linux Geek / - Bruce Sterling - Running Debian GNU/Linux: Doing my bit for World Domination (tm) - pgpcL6zzdF5xT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Damaged dpkg
Hi, to get some space on my hard disk I deleted the directories and files under the /var/lib/dpkg tree. Later I found out that this was a BIG mistake because dpkg isn't working any more. I managed to access the basic dselect-functions like defining the access method and selecting the packages I want to (re)install but I am not able to start the installation, neither via dselect nor direct with dpkg --install. Even unpacking packages is impossible now... I suppose that I need to resemble the /var/lib/dpkg tree and just want to know if there is any way doing this. Thanks for your help Thomas
Re: GNOME Gripes
Thanks to you and the other posters for some interesting points. I ended up with GNOME/enlightenment/balsa based on picking some of debian tasks for GNOME, so I do think the issues are partly GNOME and even partly Debiain. Specifically, Debian picks a standard window manager (Enlightenment) and theme, and it also chooses to install Balsa. It seems to me that if certain programs aren't at all stable they shouldn't be in the distribution, and certainly not in any kind of automatic install (e.g., Balsa and the GNOME gv--though the latter had spectacular anti-aliasing when it was up). On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 01:25:02AM +0200, Felix Natter wrote: Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net writes: On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 07:59:25PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: I've been using GNOME for awhile in potato--my first encounter with it. It just doesn't seem ready. I know potato is pre-release, and we may not have the latest GNOME in it, and the GNOME folks are working hard. So I thought I'd gripe, check if this matches others experience, and then maybe file some bug reports if I haven't made some configuration to the original poster: which version of gnome are you using ? It looks as if potato is on v 1.0. Here are some package listings from my system: ii gnome-admin1.0.3-2Gnome Admin Utilities (gulp and logview) ii gnome-bin 1.0.56-3 Miscellaneous binaries used by Gnome ii gnome-control- 1.0.51-4 The Gnome Control Center ii gnome-guile1.0.1.cvs.1999 Guile-Gtk scheme interpreter (part of Gnome) ii gnome-gv 0.82-2 GNOME PostScript/PDF viewer ii gnome-help 1.0.55-1 GNOME help browser ii gnome-help-dat 1.0.55-1 GNOME help browser data ii gnome-libs-dat 1.0.56-3 Data for Gnome libraries ii gnome-network 1.0.2-5The gnome network utilities. ii gnome-panel1.0.55-1 Launch and/or dock Gnome applications ii gnome-panel-da 1.0.55-1 Data files for GNOME panel ii gnome-pim 1.0.55-2 Calendar and address book for GNOME. ii gnome-print0.10-5 The GNOME Print architecture ii gnome-session 1.0.55-1 The Gnome Session Manager ii gnome-terminal 1.0.55-1 The Gnome terminal emulator application ii libglade-gnome 0.11-2 Library to load .glade files at runtime (Gno ii libgnome-dev 1.0.56-3 The Gnome libraries -- development package ii libgnome32 1.0.56-3 The Gnome libraries ii libgnomesuppor 1.0.56-3 The Gnome libraries (Support libraries) ii libgnomeui32 1.0.56-3 The Gnome libraries (User Interface) ii sawmill-gnome 0.20.1-2.1 GNOME components for Sawmill ii task-gnome-app 1.0.3 GNOME applications and utilities ii task-gnome-des 1.0.7 GNOME basic desktop ii task-gnome-gam 1.0.5 GNOME games ii task-gnome-net 1.0.4 GNOME network applications There is a much-improved 1.x out now (well, it is currently beta, but will be released sometime soon: April GNOME). goof. I also have no idea if the problem is GNOME or the debian integration of GNOME. I'm running on i386, mostly with sawmill window manager. gdm runs the show. Stability: Balsa crashes very frequently. [snip] Aesthetics: I think the default enlightenment theme--in fact most of the themes for most of the window managers--are just ugly. The default theme makes it look as if you have a rusting scrap heap on your desk. Only the NextStep derivatives have a decent look, to my eye. GTK is just not very attractive. GNOME can't do too much about that until the look of the base widget system is improved. But, heck, it looks better than Tk apps! Hmm, I though GTK itself was supposed to be pretty good--at least that's what I read in all the propoganda for GIMP. there are themes available at gtk.themes.org (for example aqua a la Mac-OS 9 or informer which aims to be plain). You can change this in the control-panel (win95, motif and pixmap are included by default). Internal Design: I think GNOME's facilities and interfaces should have been done in object oriented fashion. Instead, it's got this clunky C interface that reminds me of MS Windows. I understand KDE went the other route. Yes, I know it can all be packaged in CORBA someday, but why do the How to program for GNOME docs say (it has been awhile since I looked) that the C interface is the native one? because it is the lowest layer. all other language-bindings are stacked on top of it. I don't think the lowest layer metaphor is quite right here. CORBA objects can, in principle, be written in many different languages. Because CORBA models objects (vs. RPC's function calls), an object oriented language seems a better fit (C++ rather than C). C++ is quite capable of exporting functions callable from C. Similarly with the later comment on ORBIT being in C. That may be so, but again the
rWfm? what's in this log file--
my logs. big. lots of stuff. meanings escape me.
i can configure what gets logged or not via the syslog.conf
files, but when a program logs something, it's not relevant
to the logger itself.
i know what RTFM means... so rWfm means read _which_ manual?
==
A) ipfwadm logging:
in my syslog i see that ipfwadm spits out (because of its
-o option) text like this:
May 3 18:48:53 www kernel: IP fw-fwd deny eth1
TCP 192.168.1.100:1248 152.19.254.81:80
L=48 S=0x00 I=2471 F=0x0040 T=254
'man ipfwadm' says -o logs via klogd but not what the output is.
where do i find out what the L= S= I= F= and T= mean?
is the first #.#.#.# source and the second #.#.#.# destination
or vice-versa?
==
B) named/bind/dns logging:
B.1) no TTL?
when 'ndc reload' generates errors in the log like this
May 3 06:46:15 server named[19322]:
Zone myserver.com (file /etc/bind/myserver):
No default TTL set using SOA minimum instead
although the zone file has all five values in it,
@ IN SOA myserver.com. root.myserver.com. (
24191 ; Serial
8H ; Refresh
2H ; Retry
1W ; Expire
1D ); Default TTL
TXT my web site
NS ns.myserver.com.
www CNAME@
ns A10.11.12.13
where do i look, so i'll know if it's okay to ignore this
no TTL message?
B.2) NSTATS?
then, named, in its normal course of events, logs messages
like this now and then (hourly, in fact--but not via crontab):
Apr 12 22:21:08 server named[19322]:
NSTATS 955596068 955588868 A=1 MX=4
('man named' gives me the old-style named configuration info:
after an apt-get i've got a named that now looks in /etc/bind/*
instead of /etc/named.conf; plus, there's no log directives
in the old file, anyway... and 'ndc /help' yields an error?)
how do i find out what this means?
Lilo-question
I have recently started to use lilo after a few years of using loadlin. I have a bit of an unusual setup so please be patient with my long message. My setup is as follows: /dev/hda1 redhat /dev/hdc2 debian (about 8Gb) I installed redhat after my /dev/hda broke and I bought a new one. At that stage I was moving and my debian-stuff was packed already. So I only use redhat to start up my debian. Debian's lilo complains that my debian partition is to large to boot. My redhat's lilo.conf looks like this: boot = /dev/hda timeout = 50 prompt vga = normal read-only map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b image = /boot/debian label = Debian root = /dev/hdc2 hdb=ide-scsi image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 label = Redhat root = /dev/hda1 First problem: Redhat's lilo complains about line 12: hdb=ide-scsi Despite this problem I could boot debian as default system and my scsi-emulation on my cdrom worked. I was using kernel 2.2.9 so far. Last night I compiled and installed 2.2.14 with the result: vmlinuz - boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14 I ran Redhat's lilo again with the same merror message about hdb=ide-scsi. Second problem: When I boot the normal way, 2.2.9 comes up as my active kernel. Why? How do I fix it? Johann -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082-255-2388 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.Romans 12:16
Re: cdrecord question
Sean Johnson and some other referred to:
But of course you can ... from the cdrecord manpage:
If the overall speed of the system is sufficient and the
structure of the filesystem is not too complex, cdrecord
will run without creating an image of the ISO 9660
filesystem. Simply run the pipeline:
mkisofs -R /master/tree | cdrecord -v fs=6m speed=2
dev=2,0 -
Good point. I forgot about that option. Just a question. What does
mkisofs do? As I understood it mkisofs creates a iso9660 image?
From the manpage:
mkisofs is effectively a pre-mastering program to generate
the iso9660 filesystem - it takes a snapshot of a given
directory tree, and generates a binary image which will
correspond to an iso9660 filesystem when written to a
block device.
So what
mkisofs -R /master/tree | cdrecord -v fs=6m speed=2 dev=2,0
does is piping an image to cdrecord.
That is what I meant by saying you can not write a CD without an
image.
Or am I still wrong on this one?
Johann
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Re: Lilo-question - solved
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 09:55:10AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: Second problem: When I boot the normal way, 2.2.9 comes up as my active kernel. Why? How do I fix it? Sorry. I was stupid. I did not see that I my lilo.conf refers not to /vmlinuz but to redhat's /boot/debian. After copying vmlinuz to redhat's /boot/debian the problem was solved. Johann -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082-255-2388 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.Romans 12:16
kaffe 1.0.5 for Linux pppc
HI all I used the debian (potato Linux version 2.2.6-15apmac) on my imac Rev B, it 's work very well - better than maos ;-) I need to execute some Java Application, then I need to used Kaffe. I have try to compile Kaffe-1.0.5 when do make I reiceve a gcc parse errors. .. gcc -DINTERPRETER -DKVER=\1.0.5\ -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../.. -I../../../../config -I../../../../config -I../../../../include -I../../../../include -DKVER=\1.0.5\ - I/opt/gnu/kaffe-1.0.5/./kaffe/kaffevm -I/opt/gnu/kaffe-1.0.5/./kaffe/kaffevm/systems/unix-jthreads -I../../../../config -I../../../../include -I/usr/local/include -g -fsigned-char -c jthread.c -fPIC -DPIC -Wp,-MD,.deps/jthread.TPlo -o jthread.lo jthread.c: In function `jthread_create': jthread.c:1256: parse error before `?' jthread.c:1266: parse error before `?' jthread.c: In function `reschedule': jthread.c:1514: parse error before `?' .. I checked line 1256 of jthread.c #if defined(SAVE_FP) SAVE_FP(jtid-fpstate); #endif /* set up context for new thread */ oldstack = GET_SP(jtid-env); ^^^ GET_SP is define as : #define GET_SP(E) (((void**)(E))[SP_OFFSET]) SP_OFFSET is define in config-jthreads.h but there is no case for linux pppc. So I have try to force SP_OFFSET to 3 as AIX on IBM PowerPC but still have the same message when do make Any Idea ? Thanks Jblanche
Re: Re[2]: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software
Hello all there, On Wed, 3 May 2000, Steve Lamb wrote: For me it isn't a GUI/CLI mindset it is simply the ability to do what needs to be done. Windows doesn't let me do that in most cases. The standard 'nix utilities provide a lot of automation for mundane tasks. I've been following this thread for some time, and this is exactly the mail I've always been waiting for, because IMHO that's exactly the point about the whole discussion. The first time I had contact with Unix in general was in my soil physics lecture at university. We've been calculating some models on water and solute flux in soils on IBM RS/6000 machines with AIX, and as none of us two students in the course had any knowledge about Unix, the Prof gave us a short introduction. One thing I kept specially in mind: We had to remove a directory, so the prof said (in german, I'm translating into English): Just enter rm -rf directory/. rm means remove, r means recursive and f means force: Do it and don't ask stupid questions (the computer, not us students). So we entered it and the computer did it and didn't ask stupid questions. Being at that time used to the windoze way of doing things, where you often have to struggle some kind of fight with your computer to get things done, I've at once been fascinated by the way you tell the computer in clear precise language, what he has to do, and he does it. We have been doing other fancy (for me at that time) things on the computers, so this course could actually be seen as a turning point in my attitude towards computers and OSes. So a short time later I switched to Linux on my computer at home (doing it quite radically, not that kind of dual-boot stuff;-). So to focus on the main point again: It really isn't the GUI/CLI-matter. I like GUIs. But sometimes things can be done much faster, easier and more precise on the command line. And this being able to choose the way to do things and being able to do things that have to be done (And you don't have that in windoze) is one of the main advantages of UNIX/Linux. Regards, Daniel P.S.: Some might perhaps consider this mail much too long, or much too far off topic for this list, but sorry: I just had to get this off my chest.
hi and ?
hi folks, my name is rob and i'm a project engineer with a company in bavaria (no, not bmw :-) ). i'm using debian/gnu linux 2.1, kernel version 2.0.38 on 2 machines: one laptop (amd k6/266MHz, 64MB ram) and one pc (i486DX2, 66MHz, 16MB ram). recently i managed that both machines recognize their nic's (yeah!), which are a 3com 3c589D (PCMCIA) in the laptop and a UMC9008 (ISA, NE2000 clone) in the other pc. now, as you might have guessed, i am planning to hook those two up via ethernet, so i can telnet from one machine to the other, mount files systems of the other machine and do all other kinds of fancy things. (yes, i'm a newbie ;) ). BUT at the moment i can't seem to figure out what has to be done in order to set the IP adresses for both machines right, i.e. i don't know in which files i have to enter what to make all this work. i have read the ethernet-HOWTO and the networking-HOWTO, but somehow it was pretty late at night and i wasn't able to get the info i wanted. on the other hand i'm sure that, as no internetworking is involved, this should be the easiest exercise for you gurus out there, so i hope you can give me some hints how to proceed or point me to some documents on the net that deal with my problem thanx in advace rob Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: hi and ?
Check out this file: /etc/init.d/network (/etc/network/interfaces in
2.2). I'll give you a example /etc/init.d/network I guess that should be
enough to find out how you shoould edit it. After you've edited it, just
do /etc/init.d/network (on both machines of course) and your network
should be ready for use... (/etc/init.d/network will probably give 2
errors, but they aren't interesting and no problem).
Example /etc/init.d/network
#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=10.124.124.3
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=10.124.124.0
BROADCAST=10.124.124.255
GATEWAY=10.124.124.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ ${GATEWAY} ] route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
The GATEWAY part is only needed if one of both machines is on the internet
and gives the other access, if you don't have that just leave the area
after GATEWAY's = blank.
Ron Rademaker
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Robert Fendt wrote:
hi folks,
my name is rob and i'm a project engineer with a company in bavaria (no, not
bmw :-) ). i'm using debian/gnu linux 2.1, kernel version 2.0.38 on 2
machines: one laptop (amd k6/266MHz, 64MB ram) and one pc (i486DX2, 66MHz,
16MB ram).
recently i managed that both machines recognize their nic's (yeah!), which are
a 3com 3c589D (PCMCIA) in the laptop and a UMC9008 (ISA, NE2000 clone) in the
other pc.
now, as you might have guessed, i am planning to hook those two up via
ethernet, so i can telnet from one machine to the other, mount files systems
of the other machine and do all other kinds of fancy things. (yes, i'm a
newbie ;) ).
BUT at the moment i can't seem to figure out what has to be done in order to
set the IP adresses for both machines right, i.e. i don't know in which files
i have to enter what to make all this work.
i have read the ethernet-HOWTO and the networking-HOWTO, but somehow it was
pretty late at night and i wasn't able to get the info i wanted. on the other
hand i'm sure that, as no internetworking is involved, this should be the
easiest exercise for you gurus out there, so i hope you can give me some hints
how to proceed or point me to some documents on the net that deal with my
problem
thanx in advace
rob
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mschap compiled into ipppd? idsnutils 3.0-20 (potateo)
Hello list, is mschap already compiled into the ipppd of the IsdnUtils 3.0-20 (potatoe) package? I need to login an NT-Server and it seems that my ipppd don´t accept the requested mschap autentification. From my /var/log/pppd.log: ipppd: PHASE_WAIT - PHASE_ESTABLISHED ipppd: sent [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 magic ... pcomp accomp] ipppd: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x0 auth chap msoft magic 0x1283 MPmrru 0x64e MPdiscr: 0x1 [ 45 8d 30 20 ...]] ipppd: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0x0 MPmrru 0x64e] ipppd: rcvd [0][LCP ConfRej id=0x1 pcomp accomp] ipppd: sent [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x2 mru 1500 magic 0x5...] ipppd: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x1 auth chap msoft magic 0x1... MPdiscr: 0x1 [ 45 8d 30 20 .]] ipppd: sent [0][LCP ConfNak id=0x1 auth chap md5] . If mschap is compiled in, how can i use it? If I had to recompile the ipppd, which sources should I use? Is there a source package (deb-scr) for isdnutils? Thanks, Bernd PS: My english is not realy good, I hope you understand me?
Re: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Pat == Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pat For me, Linux makes me think. For others, windows may make
Pat them think. For still others, something else (not computer
Pat related) may make them think. If linux makes you think,
Pat good. If windows makes you think, good. If something else
Pat makes you think, good. If nothing makes you think, then I you
Pat truly have my sympathy.
For me, the problem with Windows is you have to think when thinking
should not be required. Take for instance, autoexec.bat.
I know a Windows computer, that whenever it starts, it flashes up
with the message Bad command or filename for a few seconds until
it goes away. However, it doesn't give the important information:
what command cannot be found? what line is it on?
Not that I actually want to come to the defense of Winanything...
Turn echoing on.
Perhaps Windows 2000 won't require autoexec.bat, I will believe it
when I see it. However, I encounter similar problems throughout
Windows (especially device drivers).
Win hasn't required an autoexec.bat since '95.
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Re: hi and ?
Hello Robert, Just a few additions to Ron's information (wanted to send something similar, but Ron was faster ;-) On 4 May 2000, Robert Fendt wrote: i have read the ethernet-HOWTO and the networking-HOWTO, but somehow it was pretty late at night and i wasn't able to get the info i wanted. Have you read the Networking-Overview-HOWTO or the NET3-4-HOWTO? If you want to set things up, you should get the NET3-4-HOWTO, the Networking-Overview-HOWTO is, as the name already implies, just an overview. so i hope you can give me some hints how to proceed: Ron's setup will only configure the interfaces. So if you want to telnet, ftp or ping (or something similar) the other machine, you always have to use the IP-Numbers. If you want to assign names to your machines, you have to do the following: edit file /etc/hosts in both machines, so that it looks something like that (There are sometimes some other things to do about that, but they usually come properly configured on the debian distro): # /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost loopback 10.124.124.1thishostname 10.124.124.3otherhostname You could also setup DNS, but I don't think this is worth to consider on a network with two machines. Assuming, you have telnetd installed you will then be able to do something like: telnet thishostname from host otherhostname. The IP-addresses only apply to Ron's example, if you use different ones in the ifconfig, you will also have to use different ones in the /etc/hosts file. Also note, that Ron's file will only apply to one computer, to configure the other, you have to change IP-addresses. Perhaps you might have a look at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc1918.html This is RFC1918 (some kind of Internet Standard, don't know what RFC stands for). It's about Best Current Practice for Address Allocation for Private Internets (i.e. LANs), and might give you some hints about which IP-numbers (addresses) to choose for your machines. point me to some documents on the net: Apart from the HOWTOs try the Linux Network Administrators Guide at http://www.linuxdoc.org/docs.html It's a bit outdated, but still a good explanation of the Theories and Principles of Networking (For actual setup use the HOWTOs, they provide more up-to-date information on the practical side) Regards, Daniel
Re: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software
On Thu, 04 May 2000, Brian May wrote: For me, the problem with Windows is you have to think when thinking should not be required. Take for instance, autoexec.bat. I know a Windows computer, that whenever it starts, it flashes up with the message Bad command or filename for a few seconds until it goes away. However, it doesn't give the important information: what command cannot be found? what line is it on? So, instead of going directly to the bad line (like you would for any Unix based interpreter), you have to do a lot of fiddling just to find out which line is bad. The problem is that win9x doesn't have the old ms-dos help.com (they probably thought that it would be too low-level for the real win user). You would have found all the answers there. In the Bad command or filename case you have to do command /y /c autoexec.bat which will step you through the batch file. I have had similar problems for out of environment space errors (I never remember or can find how to change it, although it seems to be fixed now) and programs that automatically add lines like: PATH %PATH;c:\newprogram which fails when %PATH% contains a directory with spaces (trial and error suggests that correct quoting helps). The environment size can be specified using the shell= command and the /e: switch in config.sys. In mine looks like this: SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024 /P for a 1k environment size (the default is 256 bytes). Perhaps Windows 2000 won't require autoexec.bat, I will believe it when I see it. However, I encounter similar problems throughout Windows (especially device drivers). That's because they are dos drivers, and for microsoft dos is dead (judging from the lack of documentation and support). So, the way I see it, with Windows you always need to be thinking There is a bug in this program. It won't say why it is crashing. What is the best work around?. With Unix, you get more descriptive feedback of what the program is doing (eg look at the output of dpkg), and I have never had problems with a device driver suddenly going broken, requiring a complete re-installation of the OS. You don't have to try and second guess what the computer might be trying to do. Oh yes, I agree that that one of the greatest problems of windows is that it tries to do everything in the background, hidden from the user, you can't see what's going on, and if there is a problem you can't solve it because you don't know what's happened. But all this has a very good reason. The windows philosophy is: Don't think, we will do everything for you, you will be able to use your computer without knowing anything about it. That's because windows is targeted to the don't-know-much-about-computers users (and this is a very large community), and wants to give them a power-user feeling. That's why the only problem-solving method on windows is reinstall everything. Any other method would require the user to think. (I don't say these users are stupid, they just don't know much about computers).
Re: potato intallation failed
On Thu, 4 May 2000, David Karlin wrote: I'm installing potato from floppies, and when I try to load the kernel modules, I get: modprobe: Can't open /target/etc/modules.conf and Installation failed. Just switch to the second virtual console and do touch /target/etc/modules.conf This will be fixed in the next set of boot floppies.
Re: KDE various deb - matters
Hello Sven, On Thu, 4 May 2000, Sven Burgener wrote: I guess the next thing to do is to install a window manager, right? right. For best KDE-integration you could use Enlightenment (Though a resource hog). If you want to use a lightweight alternative, you could use blackbox. There are many other, check the package-description on the debian web-page or in dselect under section X11. if you have disc-space to waste you install some of them and check which one you like best. I want KDE and so I wonder how I should install that? Which packages are necessary and is there anything additional I _should_ know about? KDE does not come with the debian-distribution. But there are installation-ready .deb-files at http://www.kde.org Which (K-)packages do you suggest me to install apart from that? Look at kde's homepage (see above), depends on your needs. Oh, yes, one last thing. I've built kernels before, just not on debian. So, to build a new kernel, I know I need the following packages for sure: -gcc -kernel-source (is that the package-name?) -make -libraries ... ? Anything else? Probably ... You could run dselect, choose select and look for package kernel-source. in the info field, there should be an item like depends on: this package, that package, another package and one recommends: this package, that package, another package. There are sure more elegant ways to find out about dependencies, but I think this one is quite easy, and you can browse through the list of available packages for other things, you might need) So you'll find out, what you need for kernel-compilation (it's in essence the packages you mentioned above+libc6-dev. There are several packages to make compilation more spiffy and easier, but they are not necessary, if you're used to kernel-compilation, you will be able to do with the bare minimum). Regards, Daniel
lilo mbr on hda with linux on hdc?
I have a machine with two hard disks here, that other OS resides on hda and I added the second drive (hdc) for Debian. The setup installed a MBR on hdc, but my BIOS only supports booting from hda. Is there a way to install lilo in the MBR on hda and have it boot linux from hdc1? I'm familiar with dual-boot setups in general, but I'm a bit clueless facing this particular setup. Any hints appreciated... -- Philip Lehman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo mbr on hda with linux on hdc?
I have a machine with two hard disks here, that other OS resides on hda and I added the second drive (hdc) for Debian. The setup installed a MBR on hdc, but my BIOS only supports booting from hda. Is there a way to install lilo in the MBR on hda and have it boot linux from hdc1? lilo.conf: change the boot=/dev/hdc into boot=/dev/hda image=/dev/hdc1 should be already there and it is fine. and an option other=/dev/hda1 is needed for booting the other os. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Subject: LS-120 install
I was trying to install debian (frozen) on my laptop the other day but got stuckon the following. i have a LS-120 drive (for superdisks which is backwards compatible with 1.44MB disks) which i was using to boot the install disk. the images i used were the ones from the idepci subdirectory. the system started booting, the image on the floppy started booting as well until it gave the following message: Insert the root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press Enter. (or something like that) i tried pressing enter with the disk i had used to boot from since i believe that's all i needed (i was gonna do an harddrive install with base2_2.tgz on another linux partition). i even tried the driver disk just in case... nothing seemed to do it... Actually you need two floppy disk images (at least) the boot disk, and the root disk. The boot disk has the kernel, the root disk has the rest of the system (includes the installer). However (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the disks were written to run on a real floppy NOT off an ide-floppy (which the ls120 is) and would probably die at the point that you tried to insert the the root disk and hit return, it would never find the root disk since it was looking at /dev/fd0, not /dev/hdxx where the ls120 is! I have never managed to install of an ls120 so I still have a floppy in my computers.along with an ls120. I bet zip drives have the same problem. OTOH booting off a cd rom drive DOES work am i doing something wrong with the disks i'm using or is it a problem with the LS-120 support? thanks for any help, thomas = Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Damaged dpkg
I suppose that I need to resemble the /var/lib/dpkg tree and just want to know if there is any way doing this. best is, you grab the 16 meg archive from the boot floppies and unpack it (as a whole without overwriting existing files or only the relevant files). this way you'll get at minimal debian install in the eyes of dpkg. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: Mail/news software
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 05:05:38PM +0200, Kovacs Istvan wrote: The ideal software would be able to handle both mail and news in an integrated manner, place incoming and outgoing messages into folders YARN, when used in combination with a SOUP package handler, is much like that (except for the GUI/multi-window part), but I haven't seen a Linux version. I know I used a Linux version of YARN about two or three years ago, look around. I know it was a handly lightweight packet reader! -- Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich Go ahead, capitalize the T on technology, deify it if it will make you feel less responsible -- but it puts you in with the neutered, brother, in with the eunuchs keeping the harem of our stolen Earth for the numb and joyless hardons of human sultans, human elite with no right at all to be where they are -- -- Thomas Pynchon, _Gravity's Rainbow_
CD R/W no CD present?
I have been trying to get mu HP9200 SCSI CD R/W working. The CD is identifed at boot. I have: sg.o sr_mod.o ide-scsi.o (although I don't think I need it) set as modules. When I run cdrecord -scanbus the CD Writer is again identified but when I run X-cd-roast I keep getting the error message that there is no CD in the drive even when I have a CD in the drive. Any idea what I can do to fix this? Also, how do I mount the CD Writer to read CD's as I would a normal CD? i.e for a normal CD mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom would I mount /dev/sr0 /cdwriter? When I do this locks my system up? Any help would be appreciated. Lance
Chimera and gzipped files
What do I need to do so that Chimera will read gzipped files? I am trying to use Chimera as my default mail browser for local viewing. I downloaded the mh-doc deb file but when I go to the mh index chimera will not decompress the file. I would prefer to use Chimera for local viewing since it is so much faster than netscape. Thanks Lance
SOLVED: Internal error installing recompiled kernel 2.2.14
I resolved the problem by recompiling and installing the kernel and modules the regular way (make xconfig, make bzImage, make modules, make install_modules etc). I guess there might be a problem with the debian method using kernel-source-2.2.14 and 2.2.15, or maybe I needed to configure something differently than when I used 2.2.13. Don't know if there is a bug or not. Michael Heyes mh [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/02/2000 08:46:23 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org cc:(bcc: Mike Heyes/LincolnFP/BerisfordPlc) Subject: Internal error installing recompiled kernel 2.2.14 I've recompiled and installed kernels before and haven't had this problem. I downloaded the kernel source and headers debs for 2.2.14, rebuilt and recompiled the kernel source without any errors, then did a make dep. Next, found the *Custom* kernel in /usr/src, and tried to install it with make-kpkg kernel_image. It came back with Internal Error: (boot) is not a directory and stopped. I'm stuck. Any idea where I went astray? thanks, Michael Heyes still using 2.2.13
Re: /etc/ioctl.save?
Hello, Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know what /etc/ioctl.save is and to which package it belongs. That file gets touched on every system boot and therefore needs special attention with the IDS. Any hints how to stop that behavior or what package to file a bug against? The program is /sbin/init or /sbin/telinit, the package name is sysvinit. See man init for the meaning of ioctl.save. Have you tried the usual workarounds for problems like that? chmod 000 /etc/ioctl.save or ln -s /dev/null /etc/ioctl.save or touch /var/local/ioctl.save ln -s /var/local/ioctl.save /etc/ioctl.save Harald -- Harald Weidner http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/~weidner/
Promise FastTtrack66 RAID Card
Has anyone had any experience or success getting Debain to run on a Promise FastTrack66 IDE RAID card? I tried moving a Debain setup from the onobard IDE to the FT66 IDE but LILO only got to LIL- and died. So I thought maybe I should see if anyone else has had experience with the FastTrack before I continue. Thanks, Raven
Re: lilo mbr on hda with linux on hdc?
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: I have a machine with two hard disks here, that other OS resides on hda and I added the second drive (hdc) for Debian. The setup installed a MBR on hdc, but my BIOS only supports booting from hda. Is there a way to install lilo in the MBR on hda and have it boot linux from hdc1? lilo.conf: change the boot=/dev/hdc into boot=/dev/hda image=/dev/hdc1 should be already there and it is fine. and an option other=/dev/hda1 is needed for booting the other os. I tried that, but LILO hangs with LI-. I did run lilo to update the MBR - several times. In lilo.conf I have: boot=/dev/hda root=/dev/hdc1 ... image=/vmlinuz ... other=/dev/hda1 ... -- Philip Lehman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
network start time
hi Ron... i entered the code in the file /etc/init.d/network. the top 2 lines already existed (it's the local loopback device, i guess). after i executed the script and did ifconfig, i see lo and eth0 with the parameters i entered in /.../network. GOOD! i like to have network executed automatically at boottime,(with noone logged in) which actually is the case, but apearently BEFORE (!) the drivers for my nic are loaded :(((. So the problem is that eth0 cannot be matched with an IP adress when network is executed later on. I cannot find out which script is responsible for loading the drivers (with insmod commands or aliases), as these drivers (PCMCIA) were compiled into the kernel when i installed the system. a link to network is /etc/rcS.d/@S40network, but i don't know when network is called. Question: how can i manipulate the time when network is executed so that the network is started AFTER the card has been probed for? Thanx Rob Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
