Re: Problemas con Wget
El lunes 15 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 01:41:58 +0200, Roberto Ruisánchez Mazo contaba: que si, que el tipo es text/html, pero wget no los procesa y no sigue los links que hay en ellos ni los graficos que de ahi cuelgan. Alguno sabe como puedo forzar ese comportamiento o que puedo hacer para que los procese?? Lo más aproximado que veo es esto: -F --force-html When input is read from a file, force it to be HTML. This enables you to retrieve relative links from existing HTML files on your local disk, by adding base href=URL to HTML, or using --base. Pero requiere que los archivos estén ya en tu disco duro. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.14 - Reg. User #87069 lynx -dump http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_dsspubkey.asc | gpg --import - Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgp5Ry8iCkMnu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: linux feature
El lunes 15 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 09:54:28 +0200, 2070718 contaba: $ mkfifo holas de acuerdo si quiero que funcione multiples veces supongo que habre de poner un bucle no? while (true); .;done. Lo que quieres no se puede hacer con este método. Leer de una tubería como esas no invoca a un diccionario nuevo, y además cada proceso leería parte de esa tubería, lo que venga a continuación. Es como si varias personas intentan leer un libro a la vez. Yo empiezo y dejo el marcador en la página 30. El siguiente empieza a leer en la página 30 y deja el marcador en la 70. Luego vuelvo yo, empiezo en la 70 y lo dejo en la 72. Viene una tercera persona y empieza por ahí. Al final, nadie se entera, pero el libro está leído del todo. Juer, parece que escribir de madrugada me inspira :^). -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.14 - Reg. User #87069 lynx -dump http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_dsspubkey.asc | gpg --import - Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpbvNQmZLba6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Comprobar checksum de los paquetes
El lunes 15 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 08:01:44 +, David Charro Ripa contaba: tripwire Aide es más GNU y a mí me parece más ligero y fácil de configurar (aunque es casi lo mismo). Está en Freshmeat. Te enteras cuando ya se han metido en tu maquina. Y si sustituyen el ejecutable por una versión crackeada, ni siquiera te enteras. Creo que es peor tener un falso sentido de seguridad que no tener seguridad en absoluto. Pero yo uso aide :^). -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.14 - Reg. User #87069 lynx -dump http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_dsspubkey.asc | gpg --import - Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpePAaOsHEhz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ¿ILOVEYOU para !*n*x?
El lunes 15 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 14:26:04 +0200, Diego Bote contaba: La respuesta que obtuve, un par de días después: He de poner en su conocimiento que algunas mutaciones del virus están afectando al sistema unix. gracias Cierto es que esta respuesta no tiene fundamento (caso en el que te darían más datos)... Según telecinco, nos encontramos con un hecho sorprendente: un virus AUTOMUTABLE (que no necesita nadie que lo programe), que además es MULTIPLATAFORMA ...pero en Bugtraq se ha comentado la posibilidad de crear un virus decente, multiplataforma, polimórfico, que se comunicase por internet con otros equipos infectados, etc. Esa posibilidad es real y a nada que alguien se ponga a ello, lo tiene listo rápidamente. Si alguien quiere el mensaje original (en inglés, claro) se lo puedo enviar. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.14 - Reg. User #87069 lynx -dump http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_dsspubkey.asc | gpg --import - Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpDekHcStVc1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: ¿ILOVEYOU para !*n*x?
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Luis M. García Ruipérez wrote: El lun, 15 may 2000, Antonio Castro escribió: Las mutaciones suelen ser subproductos que usando la misma idea sirven para diseñar nuevos virus. ... Hace poco apareció la noticia de la mutación del virus para Linux en Barrapunto (www.barrapunto.com). La mutación es un script de bash que se autoenvía a las direcciones encontradas en los archivos .muttrc y /etc/passwd. Además, modificaba el .basrhrc para que cada vez que el usuario volviera a entrar en su cuenta se reactivara el virus. En realidad la campaña de desinformación es tan impresionante que quizas sería bueno enviar una nota de prensa bien documentada a diferentes medios. Gracias por tu respuesta. Saludos Antonio +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informatica (tienda linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher !! Nueva direccion email !! | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro. - - - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ (((Donde Linux)))http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
RE: linux feature
= Original Message From Hue-Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] = El lunes 15 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 09:54:28 +0200, 2070718 contaba: $ mkfifo holas de acuerdo si quiero que funcione multiples veces supongo que habre de poner un bucle no? while (true); .;done. Lo que quieres no se puede hacer con este método. Leer de una tubería como esas no invoca a un diccionario nuevo, y además cada proceso leería parte de esa tubería, lo que venga a continuación. Es como si varias personas intentan leer un libro a la vez. Yo empiezo y dejo el marcador en la página 30. El siguiente empieza a leer en la página 30 y deja el marcador en la 70. Luego vuelvo yo, empiezo en la 70 y lo dejo en la 72. Viene una tercera persona y empieza por ahí. Al final, nadie se entera, pero el libro está leído del todo. Juer, parece que escribir de madrugada me inspira :^). entoces lo unico que se puede hacer son cgis en linux i de esta manera tendre todo no? Turtle inc. over the world.
Re: Comprobar checksum de los paquetes
Te enteras cuando ya se han metido en tu maquina. Y si sustituyen el ejecutable por una versión crackeada, ni siquiera te enteras. Lo que recomienda tripwire es que su directorio de ejecutables este en un dispositivo de solo lectura, como un disquete, o un cdrom. Saludos K-charro
RE: ¿ILOVEYOU para !*n*x?
= Original Message From Antonio Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Mon, 15 May 2000, Diego Bote wrote: Siento el Off topic pero me ha llegado esto y quería saber vuestra opinión al respecto. Hola Diego, el otro día envié un correo a telecinco para expresar mi opinión acerca de su poca información del ILOVEYOU (que no infectaba a Linux y esas cosas; ¿te acuerdas?) El mensaje que envié fue este: [...] He de poner en su conocimiento que algunas mutaciones del virus están afectando al sistema unix. gracias ¡ME HE QUEDADO A CUADROS! Las mutaciones suelen ser subproductos que usando la misma idea sirven para diseñar nuevos virus. En este caso las casas que venden antivirus podrían beneficiarse de ello. Microsoft podría propagar falsos rumores que indiquen que ellos no son los únicos infectados y nada más eficaz que hacer un virus que infecte o que simule infectar a otros sistemas. No afirmo nada pero en tehoría sería una salida muy buena para Microsoft. Los Unix no creo que corran ningún peligro pero el objetivo de desinformar estaría plenamente logrado. La única forma de contrarestar esa desinformación es decirles que te manden información más concreta o mejor aún que te manden el virus. Que no tienes ningún miedo de que te infecte. Que crees que son nubes de humo para ocultar la verdad. Quizas sea una temeridad pero yo todavía no se como un proceso de un usuario normalito puede hacer daño en un sistema Unix. Primero tendría que adquirir privilegios de root cosa que se puede lograr en algún caso aislado por un fallo en la seguridad, pero no conozco la llave maestra capaz de abrir todas las cuentas de root de todos los sistemas Unix. En mi opinión un virus de esas características necesitaría esa llave para poder hacer daño en sistemas Unix. Bueno todo esto tambien es una opinión. Saludos Antonio Ciertamente dudo que un virus pueda infectar mi makina linux al 100% consiguiendo ser root (como mucho infectara la de alguien i yo tendre el parche en 12 horas) sin enbargo esto no significa que no pase nada ya que aunque el sistema como blocque este entero si todos los usuarios no root estan infectados pueden perder todo su trabajo no? no que me hace recordar que la seguridad enpieza por enseñar unas minimas normas de idem. Turtle inc. over the world.
RE: ¿ILOVEYOU para !*n*x?
On Tue, 16 May 2000, 2070718 wrote: = Original Message From Antonio Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Mon, 15 May 2000, Diego Bote wrote: Siento el Off topic pero me ha llegado esto y quería saber vuestra opinión al respecto. [...] Ciertamente dudo que un virus pueda infectar mi makina linux al 100% consiguiendo ser root (como mucho infectara la de alguien i yo tendre el parche en 12 horas) sin enbargo esto no significa que no pase nada ya que aunque el sistema como blocque este entero si todos los usuarios no root estan infectados pueden perder todo su trabajo no? no que me hace recordar que la Yo creo que todos los usuarios pueden recibir el virus. Otra cosa es que todos decidan ejecutarlo. En primer lugar en Unix los usuarios son algo más conscientes de los temas de seguridad. En segundo lugar el hecho de no actuar a nivel de root puede permitr reaccionar cuando el daño aun no es muy grande, pero tienes razón el peligro es mayor del que yo daba a entender. seguridad enpieza por enseñar unas minimas normas de idem. Eso por desgracia no funcionaría. Si una secretaria tiene que ser consciente de temas de seguridad se agobiará y el correo electrónico tiene que permitir un uso seguro a cualquier tipo de usuario por torpe que sea sin comprometer la seguridad. Los empresarios necesitan herramientas de trabajo de todo tipo y entre ellas necesitan herramientas que no necesiten personal cualificado para ahorrar costes. Yo encuentro normal que ciertos tipos de datos requieran la ejecución de un programa para poderlos manejar. Lo que no encuentro normal es que el correo electrónico permita ejecutar código recibido por correo electrónico en forma de macros o de cualquier otra forma de código ejecutable. Yo creo que determinados tipos MIME son los que encierran un gran peligro. Cualquier intento de apertura de un documento que use macros o cosas semejantes debería venir precedido de un mensaje de advertencia. Existe otra cuestión importante. Algunos de esos mensajes se abren porque provienen de alguien conocido. Es el mecanismo de propagación del virus pero realmente el remitente no es consciente de haber mandado ese mensaje. Una solicitud de confirmación bastaría. Quizas para estos tipos MIME se podría implementar alguna forma de confirmación más o menos automática. Quizas los tipos MIME deberían ser ejecutados por un usuario distinto y específico para MIME. En cualquier caso se necesitaría algún tipo de tratamiento especial para tipos MIME potencialmente peligrosos porque la solución de no permitir su uso quizas ya no es posible debido a su popularidad. Todo esto siguen siendo opiniones y aclaro que hay muchas cosas de MIME que no entiendo quizas por desconocimiento. Saludos Antonio Turtle inc. over the world. +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informatica (tienda linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher !! Nueva direccion email !! | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro. - - - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ (((Donde Linux)))http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: ¿ILOVEYOU para !*n*x?
Quizas los tipos MIME deberían ser ejecutados por un usuario distinto y específico para MIME. ¿Se podría hacer en Debian fácilmente? Saludos K-charro
Re: Para Gnomeros
Nestor A. Diaz L. wrote: Que sería lo logico? Pues borrar todos los archivos de configuracion de gnome: Pues a medias. Lo lógico incluiría borrar el .xsession, que muchos WM's modifican para ponerse a si mismos como el WM por defecto. Al borrarlo te aseguras de que tu sesion X corresponda con la del sistema. Camilo Alejandro. -- * De simio la conoci y he visto hombres que la añoran. * En lo que a mi se refiere, ni entonces ni ahora * perdi mi libertad. Informe para una academia. Franz Kafka
Re: Novato pregunta sobre impresion
Primero saludos a la lista. Soy nuevo aqui. Sobre lo de la impresora, de momento parece que el dispositivo es correcto (/dev/lpX) porque la impresora reacciona aunque no imprima. A lo mejor es que no has elegido bien el filtro del magicfilter. Yo tuve problemas con una 420C porque cogia las hojas pero no imprimia. Lo consegui con Magicfilter simplemente configurandolo con #magicfilter-config --force y para imprimir con la hpdj 420C con cartucho negro, uso el filtro hpdj550 (o 550c no lo recuerdo bien). Con el cartucho color uso el filtro hpdj500 (paradojas de la vida). Ignacio Garcia On Fri, 12 May 2000, Julian Armando Mena Zapata wrote: Hola a todos, Hace poco envie un mensaje solicitando ayuda para configurar al impresora. Me enviaron la ayuda (magicfilter, doc-lyx). Despues de 3 dias de darle y darle. Les pido el favor me ayuden. La impresora lo unico que hace es sacar paginas sin imprimir (como cuando se inicia la impresora). La impresora imprime en RH 6.0 (me toco reinstalarlo para probar si funcionaba todavia la impresora) con el driver de hpdj400/500. tengo impresora hp dj310 (compatible dj400) Debian 2.1 Slink (i386) (tengo ademas en otra particion citius Debian 2.1) acepto todas las sugerencias (je, je, ustedes saben que no todas) Gracias a todos. Julian Armando Mena Zapata -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: La última linea perdida ...
El lunes 15 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 19:00:43 +0200, Javier Fafián Alvarez contaba: para salir y grabar del joe hay que escribir crt +k+x, eso en el pine significaría borrar la última linea y enviar el mensaje ... No tiene sentido. ^K^X le llega al joe, no al pine. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.14 - Reg. User #87069 lynx -dump http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_dsspubkey.asc | gpg --import - Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpaW5McCwwki.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: La última linea perdida ...
Javier Fafián Alvarez dijo: Ahora que lo pienso ... uso como editor habitual el joe, y lector de correo el pine... para salir y grabar del joe hay que escribir crt +k+x, eso en el pine significaría borrar la última linea y enviar el mensaje ... X-(, lo malo es que como sea eso haber cómo pierdo la contumbre ! ... Corregidme si me equivoco. Yo uso tanto Pine como Mutt con igual intensidad y uso Pico como editor de Pine. Para salir y enviar con Ctrl-x basta, no? Lo del Ctrl-k explicaría lo de la última línea, pues la borra. ¿Qué pasa cuando editando un mensaje pulsas simplemente Ctrl-x? ¿No te lo envía? Un saludo, bastante intrigada... -- Women prefer 30-40 minutes of foreplay. Men prefer 30-40 seconds of foreplay. Men consider driving to her place as part of the foreplay. Barbwired (The Translatrix) - U. Complutense de Madrid - Filología Inglesa Web personal http://www.bigfoot.com/~barbwired/ Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 (Kernel 2.2.14) on a Dell Laptop
Re: La última linea perdida ...
Soluciones: 1) cambiar a un lector de correo decente. ¿ Como cual ?, yo, que vengo, como casi todos de un entorno dos, pues el joe es el que mejor se me adapta, el vi me tiene mania, el zed es muy bonito, pero muy liante, ¿ Qué mas hay ? 2) cambiar de editor en el pine. Si, puedo intentarlo, pero no se que pasará ... Saludos ! Mi numero de firma de Drivers para Linux es:00056845 pasaros por:http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Javier Fafián Alvarez: Numero de usuario Linux: 175.004 en un AMD-K6II a 350 con 64 Mb de RAM Con Linux Debian Potato (frozen) kernel 2.2.14
Re: La última linea perdida ...
Una ocasion de oro para cambiar a mutt+vim :- Sobre el vim ya he hablado, bueno era sobre el vi, pero es extensible. ¿ Y qué tiene el mutt ese para que la gente lo quiera tanto ?, yo lo tengo instalaldo, pero prefiero usar el pine ... Saludos ! Mi numero de firma de Drivers para Linux es:00056845 pasaros por:http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Javier Fafián Alvarez: Numero de usuario Linux: 175.004 en un AMD-K6II a 350 con 64 Mb de RAM Con Linux Debian Potato (frozen) kernel 2.2.14
Re: La última linea perdida ...
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:28:44PM +0200, Javier Fafián Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Soluciones: 1) cambiar a un lector de correo decente. ¿ Como cual ?, yo, que vengo, como casi todos de un entorno dos, pues el joe es el que mejor se me adapta, el vi me tiene mania, el zed es muy bonito, pero muy liante, ¿ Qué mas hay ? mcedit, integrado en Midnight Commander (mc). Para los que venimos del dos. (¿os acordáis del nc?) 2) cambiar de editor en el pine. Si, puedo intentarlo, pero no se que pasará ... Es fácil y funciona perfectamente. Puedes recortar y pegar... De hecho lo uso también en mutt. 3) mutt vs. pine? Yo he usado pine durante un par de años y ahora uso mutt. Ventajas: Es gnu y free (la principal). Es muy configurable (aún más que pine). Está internacionalizado. Entiende PGP/MIME. Saludos -- jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP 2.6.3ia GnuPG keys available
Re: La última linea perdida ...
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 04:24:38PM +0200, Hue-Bond wrote: El lunes 15 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 19:00:43 +0200, Javier Fafián Alvarez contaba: para salir y grabar del joe hay que escribir crt +k+x, eso en el pine significaría borrar la última linea y enviar el mensaje ... No tiene sentido. ^K^X le llega al joe, no al pine. Tiene sentido que si usa joe de normal, está acostumbrado a ^Kx para salir. Si usa pine (ugh) para leer el correo y no lo ha configurado para que use Joe, si hace ^Kx al salir, pico le borrará la última línea del mail. Ah, y ya que hablamos de ese software, que alguien escriba un pine libre para que se pueda usar con nano, vale? Gracias. :) -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, ka Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| Using Debian GNU/Linux http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpxJxUu50zFI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: La última linea perdida ...
El mar, 16 de may de 2000, a las 07:28:44 +0200, Javier Fafián Alvarez dijo: Soluciones: 1) cambiar a un lector de correo decente. ¿ Como cual ?, yo, que vengo, como casi todos de un entorno dos, pues el joe es el que mejor se me adapta, el vi me tiene mania, el zed es muy bonito, pero muy liante, ¿ Qué mas hay ? VIM http://bash.unizar.es/~nop/linux/linux.html - mira el tutorial... 2) cambiar de editor en el pine. Si, puedo intentarlo, pero no se que pasará ... -- He instalado el Windows 2000 y me va sin problemas. (Pinocho) _-_ | NoP / Compiler -- nop @ todolinux.org | |---| | POWERED BY - Linux RedHat 6.0 - Reg. User #74.821 | | http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero | ~-~
Re: Arranque del kdm?
El dom, 14 de may de 2000, a las 01:38:52 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: A todo esto... ¿donde está el equivalente del .xinitrc cuando una arranca con el arranque del KDM? Es decir, si pongo por .xsession (debe ser ejecutable) Me extraña que preguntes algo tan básico. :-) te lo creas o no, no se ejecuta. pero hay cosas muy interesantes si voy al /etc/X11/xdm ... a ver, el XSetup_0 parece ser que se ejecuta, y es lo que pinta la pantalla y pone el logo de redhat (en mi caso) para el login en KDM... de ahi se ejecuta el Xsession, pero dentro de éste no veo ninguna llamada al .xsession, ¡ah si!... pero está como una opción que sea ultimo recurso si no tienes definido KDE o GNOME o similares como escritorio, en ese caso se sale del if/else y se mete en lo que ponga en el .xsession del usuario... pero el problema es que no se donde meter una cosa para que se ejecute para mi usuario (lo que intento es que no me salgan por pantalla los errores del xrdb, que tapan el login de la terminal 1, ya ves, pijilloso que es uno :). na, ya tan muchas cosas aclaradas... thx -- ULTIMAS NOTICIAS: Programador encontrado muerto en la ducha con una botella de champú donde ponía: Lavar, aclarar, repetir. _-_ | NoP / Compiler -- nop @ todolinux.org | |---| | POWERED BY - Linux RedHat 6.0 - Reg. User #74.821 | | http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero | ~-~
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On Tue, 16 May 2000, Javier Fafián Alvarez wrote: Una ocasion de oro para cambiar a mutt+vim :- Sobre el vim ya he hablado, bueno era sobre el vi, pero es extensible. ¿ Y qué tiene el mutt ese para que la gente lo quiera tanto ?, yo lo tengo instalaldo, pero prefiero usar el pine ... Yo tambien prefiero pine, pero hay quien prefire mutt por motivos de licencia (es totalmente GPL, mientras que pine no lo es), y tambien porque te permite ver los mensajes de forma threaded (lo siento, pero no se como traducirlo al espagnol). - Nitebirdz: http://www.linuxnovice.org Open source tries to move software from a witchcraft to a science. People start discussing ideas and suddenly you don't have shamanistic companies telling you how it is. (Linus Torvalds)
Re: La última linea perdida ...
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:28:44PM +0200, Javier Fafián Alvarez wrote: Soluciones: 1) cambiar a un lector de correo decente. ¿ Como cual ?, yo, que vengo, como casi todos de un entorno dos, pues el joe es el que mejor se me adapta, el vi me tiene mania, el zed es muy bonito, pero muy liante, ¿ Qué mas hay ? He dicho lector de correo, aka MUA, no editor. O sea: __ __ _ _ | \/ | _ _ | |_ | |_ | |\/| | | | | | | __| | __| | | | | | |_| | | |_ | |_ |_| |_| \__,_| \__| \__| 2) cambiar de editor en el pine. Si, puedo intentarlo, pero no se que pasará ... Emh. Nada, pero no es tan chachi como cambiar a un mua de verdad :) Y ya que dices en otro mail de este thread que que tiene Mutt, te diré: - Es rápido - Puedes configurar hasta el nombre de su madre. - Es Software Libre (oh!) - No se comporta mejor con un editor determinado. - GnuPG/PGP incorporado de serie, como el airbag. - Desarrollo continuado. - IMAP con crypto (no se si pine tiene, lo dudo...) - Pop incorporado. - ... En fín. Mutt rocks. Ah, - Tiene lista de usuarios hispanos. Pine? Ni de coña! :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, paro aquí :) Jordi, con mutt stock options. -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, ka Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| Using Debian GNU/Linux http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpCrly0cZcMk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Saludos
Ando de entrometido por que, a parte de ser un inexperto, ahora no tengo linux pero usé un tiempo debian y fue el sabor de linux que más me gustó excepto por la versión de Enlightenment que había disponible y que me crashaba cuando le cambiaba a ciertos temas. En fin, me suscribí a la lista para estar enterado. Miguel Alberto Martínez Escalante Soporte de Sistemas AMP AMERMEX Grupo TSI/ARYL * E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U Office: 89.72.48 kCelular: 044.62.57.23.79
Re: __Sobre DEBIAN__ (Re: RV: una-al-dia (04/05/2000) Consideraciones sobre VBS.LoveLetter, un gusano muy simple)
Guenas El Mon, May 15, 2000 at 07:34:08PM +0200, Cosme P. Cuevas disidio iscribir: En el fondo es lo mismo. Solo cambia el punto hasta el que hay que remontarse en los argumentos. Al fin y al cabo, algo que caracteriza a los debianeros es que lo vemos todo muy desde la optica que da el uso de Debian, ¿no? A efectos prácticos no va a ser lo mismo, insisto. Es importante tener presente que únicamente existe un foro específico para hablar sobre Debian en español, y es éste. De acuerdo :-)) Ese punto es indiscutible. Y el que se esté acordando de la sección sobre Debian en BarraPunto, pues en mi opinión como medio es peor que las news/listas. Discusiones largas son indigeribles via web, vamos. OK. Hasta hora lees mis pensamientos :-) En cambio para hablar de linux, donde los debianeros tenemos también cabida, hay muchos, y cualquiera que lo pretenda puede engullir 500 mensajes diarios sobre Linux si lo desea: Usenet: es.comp.os.linux.* esp.comp.so.linux.* Que, como tema aparte, tienen un funcionamiento (las news en general) bastante deficiente ultimamente. Listas: mogollón Si :-))) Webs: BarraPunto, TodoLinux, SoloLinux, ... Poco practicas, y muy caras si se usan a menudo. ¿Qué hay de malo en un foro _sobre_ Debian que de vez en cuando tenga muy poco tráfico? Quizá eso permita discusiones más relajadas/meditadas sobre cuestiones importantes. Tenemos otros foros donde buscar cualquier temática posible sobre nuestro sistema favorito. Estoy de acuerdo, y se que los off-topics estan algo disparados ultimamente, pero hay que procurar encontrar un termino medio: demasiados offtopics quitan sentido a la lista, y demasiada rigidez puede bajar el trafico hasta el punto de dejarla muerta (no olvidemos que cuestiones muy propias e Debian se podrian discutir tambien sin problemas en l-linux, por ejemplo). Saludines -- - Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] N.Reg: 66054 Firma de urgencia :-( -
RE: __Sobre DEBIAN__ (Re: RV: una-al-dia (04/05/2000) Consideraci ones sobre VBS.LoveLetter, un gusano muy simple)
¿Alguien contempla la posibilidad de IRC? hay canales de debian y linux en IRC-Hispano, yo he entrado y me parece muy estimulante, interactivo, dinámico y hasta se puede hacer personalizado... a parte hay unos bots que hay que verlos. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: martes 16 de mayo de 2000 14:22 To: Cosme P. Cuevas; debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: __Sobre DEBIAN__ (Re: RV: una-al-dia (04/05/2000) Consideraciones sobre VBS.LoveLetter, un gusano muy simple) Guenas El Mon, May 15, 2000 at 07:34:08PM +0200, Cosme P. Cuevas disidio iscribir: En el fondo es lo mismo. Solo cambia el punto hasta el que hay que remontarse en los argumentos. Al fin y al cabo, algo que caracteriza a los debianeros es que lo vemos todo muy desde la optica que da el uso de Debian, ¿no? A efectos prácticos no va a ser lo mismo, insisto. Es importante tener presente que únicamente existe un foro específico para hablar sobre Debian en español, y es éste. De acuerdo :-)) Ese punto es indiscutible. Y el que se esté acordando de la sección sobre Debian en BarraPunto, pues en mi opinión como medio es peor que las news/listas. Discusiones largas son indigeribles via web, vamos. OK. Hasta hora lees mis pensamientos :-) En cambio para hablar de linux, donde los debianeros tenemos también cabida, hay muchos, y cualquiera que lo pretenda puede engullir 500 mensajes diarios sobre Linux si lo desea: Usenet: es.comp.os.linux.* esp.comp.so.linux.* Que, como tema aparte, tienen un funcionamiento (las news en general) bastante deficiente ultimamente. Listas: mogollón Si :-))) Webs: BarraPunto, TodoLinux, SoloLinux, ... Poco practicas, y muy caras si se usan a menudo. ¿Qué hay de malo en un foro _sobre_ Debian que de vez en cuando tenga muy poco tráfico? Quizá eso permita discusiones más relajadas/meditadas sobre cuestiones importantes. Tenemos otros foros donde buscar cualquier temática posible sobre nuestro sistema favorito. Estoy de acuerdo, y se que los off-topics estan algo disparados ultimamente, pero hay que procurar encontrar un termino medio: demasiados offtopics quitan sentido a la lista, y demasiada rigidez puede bajar el trafico hasta el punto de dejarla muerta (no olvidemos que cuestiones muy propias e Debian se podrian discutir tambien sin problemas en l-linux, por ejemplo). Saludines -- - Andres Herrera[EMAIL PROTECTED] N.Reg: 66054 Firma de urgencia :-( - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: __Sobre DEBIAN__ (Re: RV: una-al-dia (04/05/2000) Consideraci ones sobre VBS.LoveLetter, un gusano muy simple)
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 06:30:31PM -0400, Martinez, Miguel (Soporte) wrote: ¿Alguien contempla la posibilidad de IRC? hay canales de debian y linux en IRC-Hispano, yo he entrado y me parece muy estimulante, interactivo, dinámico y hasta se puede hacer personalizado... a parte hay unos bots que hay que verlos. En efecto, hay que verlos. -GLOBAL- jovi Noticia importante: tienes una versión del IRCAP especialmente adaptada al IRC-Hispano. A veces pienso (los habitantes de #debian lo saben) que deberíamos mover el canal a openprojects. Con bots tan, tan pesados, da bastante pena. Jordi, aka Oskuro. -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, ka Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| Using Debian GNU/Linux http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpvlV79AMW0s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Storm (Era: Dial-Up KDE no Corel Linux)
De: DATAPUC-André Leão Macedo De: Leandro Dutra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] O problema é pagar os impostos... uma vez trouxe uns CDs Debian, e acabei pagando muito nos impostos! A Receita Federal te enrolou. Deve ter achado queera CD de música e cobrou imposto (no caso, 60%). Software não é tributado. Eu já trouxa uma três vezes, todas sem problemas. Eu acho que se você for na receita e provar que é software, você fica isento. Puxa! Na época até perguntei -- creio que nesta mesma lista --, e me disseram que a lei tinha mudado, que desde a época do Itamar programas também pagam impostos. Alguém sabe os regulamentos em vigor? --_ / \ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra +55 (11) 246 96 07 resl \ / Amdocs Brasil Ltda, Sao Paulo +55 (11) 3040 4724 coml X http://www.terravista.pt/Enseada/1989/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Campanha fita ASCII, contra correio HTML BRASIL
Re: debian.org.br registered
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: Hello, I just wanted to announce that I've registered the domain debian.org.br in Brazil to protect it somehow. There is a Free Software Comitee working here to spread the word and since only truly stablished organizations are able to register under .org.br I asked them to register debian.org.br. I've set www.debian.org.br and ftp.debian.org.br to point to our local official primary mirror of the project. Any comments on this? Congratulations! And I hope we can do a good job for Debian here in Brazil. BTW, is the official primary mirror you mention at linorg.usp.br? you can answer in pvt. []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 http://www.revistalinux.com.br
Vendo CDs de diversas distribuições
Oi, isso é um serviço que presto para os amigos, e já que o onde conseguir debian foi mencionado aqui, acho que vale a pena anunciar, pode ser útil para todos... Eu tenho várias iso de várias distribuições e um link dedicado com a internet onde posso conseguir outros que eu não disponha sem problema algum, então já há algum tempo tenho gravado CDs para os amigos com coisas que vão desde o o Debian até o Corel Linux, ou o Storm Linux, e tudo o mais que for gravável em um CD. Eu costumo cobro R$15,00 por CD para compensar além da mídia os 30 minutos que levo pra gravar cada um. Isso tem ajudado muito principalmente pessoas (e empresas (e escolas)) que têm outras arquiteturas como Alpha, Sparc e que não querem se envolver em transações pela internet com cartão de crédito (muito embora em breve estarei apto a recebê-los tbem)... Se eu puder ser útil para além dos meus amigos locais, mas também para os amigos da lista, será um enorme prazer! :) Abração --macan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Storm (Era: Dial-Up KDE no Corel Linux)
O problema é pagar os impostos... uma vez trouxe uns CDs Debian, e acabei pagando muito nos impostos! A Receita Federal te enrolou. Deve ter achado queera CD de música e cobrou imposto (no caso, 60%). Software não é tributado. Eu já trouxa uma três vezes, todas sem problemas. Eu acho que se você for na receita e provar que é software, você fica isento. Puxa! Na época até perguntei -- creio que nesta mesma lista --, e me disseram que a lei tinha mudado, que desde a época do Itamar programas também pagam impostos. Alguém sabe os regulamentos em vigor? Até onde eu sei só se cobra imposto a partir de compras acima de US$ 50,00. Eu geralmente compro cds em lugares como a cheapbytes, que fica bem barato. O negocio é pedir para especificarem separadamente a compra e o envio. Em tempo; no correio tinha uma página falando sobre isso, depois tiraram :-( Abaixo vai uma mensagem de uma lista de linux falando sobre esse assunto: Galera esse eu ja postei varias vezes, todo mundo que eu conheco que usou esta tecnica que eh totalmente LICITA nunca teve que pagar imposto sobre CD's A regra eh bem simples ... a lei eh clara e diz que nao se pode cobrar imposto sobre PROPRIEDADE INTELECTUAL, e seja la o que for que tem no CD isso eh propriedade intelectual, basta voce pedir para a empresa de que esta comprando para DESCRIMINAR NA NOTA exatamente o que vc esta comprando por exemplo: CD do Linux - 49$ --- Media - 1$ Intelectual Value - 48$ voce teria que pagar pela regra 72 centavos de imposto mas como eles nao cobram nada abaixo de 10$ vc recebe tudo sem pagar. Isso nao eh errado nem ilegal nem imoral vc so esta pedindo para que os items sejam descriminados na nota, nenhuma empresa pode e nem vai se recusar a fazer isso ---
Re: Storm (Era: Dial-Up KDE no Corel Linux)
Salve! Nos temos lojas de CD`s no Brasil sim De uma olhada em: http://antartida.lugarcomum.com.br/ Na secao de links tem o endereco de lojas virtuais de CD`s, algumas no Brasil. Luis Augusto Coutinho Sauerbronn [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 16 May 2000, Leandro Dutra wrote: De: DATAPUC-Andr? Le?o Macedo Fiquei curioso... o Storm como se o consegue no Brasil? Cheapbytes: http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070010459?y9JcIoQe;;86 O problema ? pagar os impostos... uma vez trouxe uns CDs Debian, e acabei pagando muito nos impostos! Ser? que n?o tem um cheapbytes brasileiro? Outra quest?o ? se a Storm vai incorporar o mesmo n?vel de nacionaliza??o que a Debian 2.2 --_ ?/ \? Leandro Guimar?es Faria Corcete Dutra? +55 (11) 246 96 07 resl ?\ /? Amdocs Brasil Ltda, Sao Paulo? +55 (11) 3040 4724 coml ? X?? http://www.terravista.pt/Enseada/1989/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?/ \? Campanha fita ASCII, contra correio HTML??? BRASIL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telephony
Hello! I would like to know a free/commercial telephony gateway, that I can use to place call to USA from my PC using voxilla on linux without Quicknet hadrware. I have heard from Internet That using voxilla packages can Help Linux End Users to place free/cheap long distance call, but me I can't, I don't know How to do that? I have Linux(kernel 2.2.14.xxx) and the latest voxilla package installed on my system, but I'd like to have more informations on How to do it. Bye ,,, please Help me... Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Maikl Server
Hello all, I'm looking to run a mail server similar to Microsoft Exchange. Is there something for debian out there I can use? If so what's the url?
Re: XScreenSaver
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 02:48:09PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: Hey, I was just wondering how I would get xscreensaver to start up at the beginning of every session in X. I'm using WindowMaker on Slink if that matters. I think WindowMaker has some kind of session manager, but if you can't figure out how to make that work, you can put this in ~/.xsession # We like a screensaver... if [ -f /usr/bin/X11/xscreensaver ]; then /usr/bin/X11/xscreensaver -no-splash fi -- ¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·characterset·when·compos » ing·email·messages.
Re: Can not get a floppy only install to work
Hi Tom, On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:28:56PM -0500, Tom wrote: Hi, I have an IBM PS/2 Model 8535 386sx with 4 meg RAM and a 75meg IDE hard drive and a 1.44 meg floppy drive. I am trying to do a base Debian install but can not get past the second disk. I have tried 2.1 and 2.2 now with the exact same results and error message. I start with the compact rescue disk, the system comes toa a prompt boot: I press enter, the system continues and then asks for the root disk. I insert the floppy that I made with the compact root.bin file and press enter the system then responds with end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy) sector 0 VFS: can not open root device 02:00 This message is consistent and I have already tried remaking the floppies on other new floppy disks, I have tried boot params of root=/dev/fd0 or floppy0 and always I have the same error message. After two days of fighting with this I would appreciate any help Thanks Have you read the install docs (specifically section 5.7)?? It describes the process for installation on low memory systems. You need to boot from a lowmem.bin boot disk image. Detailed instructions at: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-low-mem-disk It works, but 4MB ram makes for an almost painfully slow system. HTH. -- David Karlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
elvis buffers
seems every time (not quite, just seems that way) i leave ELVIS with :q i add another buffer to recover via -r... man elvis: -r This is used for recovering an edit session after a crash. Each elvis process uses a single session file to store the contents of all edit buffers. While elvis is running, a flag is set near the beginning of the session file so that other elvis processes won't try to use it at the same time. If an elvis process dies abnormally, though, it will leave the session file lying around with that flag set; the -r flag allows elvis to open a session file even if it is marked as being in use. and then -- how do i get rid of it? from doc/elvis/howto.html: Free an edit buffer Elvis has no command for discarding old edit buffers. Under some circumstances it will free them automatically, if they aren't being used. It rarely matters, though. uh huh. not in my case. # vi -r :buf *Elvis untitled #1 (2) *Elvis untitled #2 (1) *Elvis untitled #3 (3) *Elvis untitled #4 (6) *Elvis untitled #5 (5) *Elvis untitled #6 (7) *Elvis untitled #7 (8) 1: Elvis untitled #8 (9) *elvis.html (4) Hit Enter to continue but how does one get rid of those buffers once they're reopened (whether saved or to be ignored) with vi -r? tried: :e! :q and :close! ZZ among others... -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Their is five errers in this sentance.
Installation and startup of SB sound card driver, alsa etc.
I have installed a minimal Hamm on a Compaq Prolinea 486 with 120M disk and an SB compatible sound card (yes I know that they are not always as compatible as all that but I haven't got far enough to worry about that, I think). I used dselect to install alsu-utils and eveything else named alsa except the source. Ran also-config (or some similar name) and it created a startup script. I ran the script and tried to run aplayer and the other utils but all of them say that they cannot open the sound device. The relevant device files all exist (audio, dsp). I have looked at the Linux Sound How-To which didn't help at all. It seems that everyone else has sound working and has higher level problems but I can't even get started. Help! I have been using Debian for a couple of years and I have done a two year stint as a DEC OSF/1 sysadmin so I count myself as moderately familiar with Unix in general but I am completely stuck here. Kevin Whitefoot Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Maikl Server
If You need a one package solution ( SMTP + POP3 + FINGER ) You can try : http://www.maticad.it/davide/xmail.asp Otherwise You can try : http://www.qmail.org or http://www.sendmail.org But if You use the latest two You must also install something like : http://www.eudora.com/freeware/qpop.html to get a POP3 access. Davide -- Feel free, feel Debian !
apropos pam
i thought this was funny-- $ apropos pam [snip] pam-undocumented (7) - No manpage for this PAM-related program, utility or function. [snip] isn't that redundant? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Their is five errers in this sentance.
Re: How do I run multiple X sessions?
Bruce Sass wrote: On 15 May 2000, Richard Klinda wrote: You can start a second X with this command: startx -- :1 So if you have 2 running Xs, one'll be at 'alt-f7' and the other at 'alt-f8'. pickier mode from within xwindows, you need to use CONTROL-ALT-F7 or CONTROL-ALT-LEFT/RIGHT. from a text console you can switch with or without control, as in ALT-F3 or ALT-RIGHT. xwindows might just actually use the alt-fkey keystrokes, so you have to add the control key to the combo to switch in and out. /pickier mode picky mode Actually, startx will bring up X on the first unused vt. e.g., if you start 3 vt's at boot (see /etc/inittab), startx will use tty4. Since the default setup is for 6 vt's and xdm uses tty7... /picky mode -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Their is five errers in this sentance.
Re: bashrc
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 07:40:32PM -0700, montefin wrote: 2.) Attach a signature.txt file to his/her outgoing mail, such as I have attached to mine below. Write one in your home directory (~/signature.txt) and point your mail app to it, _but_ only 4 lines, Avinash, or you're gonna get back more mail than you care to read :) or call it ~/.signature which most mail programs will use automatically if it exists. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpVA7FP4W8La.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Samba Setup
Odd.. I don't have netscape 4.x installed, but the newest mozilla. I installed swat to test it out ( I am on woody ), hmm.. do you have nmap installed? sending the output of `nmap localhost` might help, just to ensure that SWAT is running on port 901. Hmm, the Broken Pipe error does seem to indicate some other problem.. perhaps use 'nmap localhost` and `lynx localhost:901` and post the output to the list, that should make things more apparent.. Rob On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 07:43:25PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote: What does it mean when I try to connect though Netscape and I get a error of Network Error: Broken Pipe??? Cant seem to still connect. I have swat in my /etc services and in inetd.conf. Any Idea's -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 7:18 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Samba Setup Hi Jay, I assume you are trying to configure samba through SWAT.. ( I like using the manpage and editing smb.conf, but that's me :) Is SWAT in your /etc/inetd NOT commented out ( without a # in front of it ), is inetd running, which port are you trying to connect to? Thanks, Rob Namodn On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 06:46:43PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote: I need some help setting up Samba.. Sorry to keep bugin you guys . Im getting there. I try to configure samba thought netscape but I am gettting an error Netscapes connection was refused by the server. Im sure I installed it when I installed Debian. Any Ideas guys -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
ipportfw
Hi! I'v downloaded patch for kernel 2.0.37 for ipportfw (subs-patch-1.37.gz), but I've got kernel 2.0.38... Is there some possible conflicts? Because when I tried to compile the kernel there was no option for ipportfw, as It should have been... I checked the "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers" option... thanx pepe
udf kernel patch
list, this question isn't exactly one specifically Debian, but since I use Debian, i figured why not :) Running a dual boot system with win98, I prefer to use Debian yet there's one problem; every now and then I transfer files fom distance computers to my own one using cd-rw discs. Now I've found out there's a patch that will let me mount UDF media with Linux except the patch is made for 2.2.12 (as from http://trylinux.com/projects/udf/) and I'm running 2.2.14 - with whose configuration i'm really happy - would you say it's okay to patch it? Honestly I wouldn't know however i suspect that it shouldn't be done. thanks for any reply. gijs
Re: udf kernel patch
Hmm.. I have one for 2.2.14, one of the reasons I don't just go up to .15 ... also a reiserfs patch.. Let me know if you are interested and I'll dig up a link or just attach it.. Rob On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 09:59:37AM +0200, Gijs van der Brugge wrote: list, this question isn't exactly one specifically Debian, but since I use Debian, i figured why not :) Running a dual boot system with win98, I prefer to use Debian yet there's one problem; every now and then I transfer files fom distance computers to my own one using cd-rw discs. Now I've found out there's a patch that will let me mount UDF media with Linux except the patch is made for 2.2.12 (as from http://trylinux.com/projects/udf/) and I'm running 2.2.14 - with whose configuration i'm really happy - would you say it's okay to patch it? Honestly I wouldn't know however i suspect that it shouldn't be done. thanks for any reply. gijs
Re: udf kernel patch
Once upon a time, I heard Rob say Hmm.. I have one for 2.2.14, one of the reasons I don't just go up to .15 ... also a reiserfs patch.. I have been using 2.2.14 reiser patch on 2.2.15 since pre10, for about 2-3 months now, the patch applied cleanly and I haven't found a problem yet. -- Chanop pgp5SwpTqFjcn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Is Storm based on potato or slink ?
I installed stormix which is based on 2.2.13 kernel. I assumed this storm release was based on potato due to the kernel version. When I tried to install logrotate (which is part of the potato release) I get the following message: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: logrotate: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1) but 2.0.7.19981211-storm.1 is installed Depends: libpopt0 but it is not installable Depends: cron (= 3.0pl1-53) but 3.0pl1-50.2 is installed Depends: base-passwd (= 2.0.3.4) but 2.0.3.3 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. When I do apt-get dist-upgrade, it shows I am up to date. Does anyone have experience with Storm? Is it potato or slink? Their website claims the latest release of storm is based on Debian 2.1r5. I thought this was slink, but am not sure how/why they use the latest kernel. Maybe they just swapped out hte kernel ... paul -- Paul McHale Work: 937-253-7610 Double E Solutions Mobile: 937-371-2828 4912 Effingham Fax:413-215-3232 Dayton, Ohio 45431 --
Re: udf kernel patch
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote: Once upon a time, I heard Rob say Hmm.. I have one for 2.2.14, one of the reasons I don't just go up to .15 ... also a reiserfs patch.. I have been using 2.2.14 reiser patch on 2.2.15 since pre10, for about 2-3 months now, the patch applied cleanly and I haven't found a problem yet. -- Chanop Speaking of the ReiserFS patch (and sorry while probably getting a little off-topic :)) ): I was running 2.2.14 with reiserfs for some weeks now, but, I downgraded due to lack of USB functionality in .14 and because the 2.3.30 backport patch I used obviously doesn't work well together with the reiser-patch. Does anybody have an idea what to do to get both USB *and* rfs in the same kernel? Is there an USB patch for 2.3.99? Thanks for reading, thanks in advance for help :)) Kris
Re: Upgrading to potato
On 16-May-2000 Brad wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:51:19PM +0300, Lehel Bernadt wrote: No, dselect will not try to install everything, but I suggest to use apt-get only and not bother with dselect's apt method. It will give you a bunch of dependency problems, and screw up your existing configuration. Odd, since i use the dselect apt method all the time and it has never screwed up my configuration or given me major dependancy problems Do you mean while upgrading from slink to potato ? Since the dselect apt method uses apt-get to do the actual download and upgrade, dselect with the apt method should be just as intelligent as apt-get. Oh yes, but my problem is that if I use the apt method from dselect I won't be able to use the slink CDs (without changing the acces method, of course). So I have two separate available-packages databases: one for dselect(dpkg) slink, the other for apt-get potato.
Re: Debian on UMSDOS?
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 03:40:13PM +0100, Graeme Mathieson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject says all. Has anyone successfully installed Debian on a UMSDOS partition? Well, can't say that I have. Another solution which (I've heard) is workable. Installing on a loopback filesystem. I've never heard of it being done with Debian, but it'd be worth investigating... Hi, I did loopback instalation. I simply installed looplinux distribution and used Debian install from disk. Mirek
Re: Installation and startup of SB sound card driver, alsa etc.
Kevin Whitefoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I used dselect to install alsu-utils and eveything else named alsa except the source. Ran also-config (or some similar name) and it created a startup script. I ran the script and tried to run aplayer and the other utils but all of them say that they cannot open the sound device. The relevant device files all exist (audio, dsp). Did you compile basic sound support as a module in the kernel? Then, if you don't have installed the same kernel-image as appriopriate for alsa-modules-2.2.XX, you should compile your own alsa-modules from the sources-deb. (cd /usr/src ; tar -xvzf alsa-sources-xxx ; cd linux ; make deb ; make-kpkg modules_image). Greetings, joachim
Re: Is Storm based on potato or slink ?
When I do apt-get dist-upgrade, it shows I am up to date. Does anyone have experience with Storm? Is it potato or slink? I really like Storm Linux. To me, they've got things pretty near right. They stick to Debian standards, unlike Corel, and have a nice, easy install (both text/graphics) and is a really well done product. Storm presently is slink-plus. It's a slink-based installation with some updated packages. You can, however, upgrade Storm to potato quite seamlessly. -- Regards, | Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org - More software than .| *any* distribution, rock solid reliability, quality control, Randy| seamless upgrades via ftp or CD-ROM, strict filesystem layout, | adherence to standards, and militantly 100% FREE GNU/Linux!
grep with actual date ?
Hi there, I am planning to do a daily system check with refused connects by placing them in a cron job. So far, so good. But - and that's the problem - does anyone know how to tell the grep-command to filter just the refused connects of today and not all those which are two weeks old ? This should happen each day frequently so any help would be appreciated very well... Thanks in advance, Oliver --- Mit freundlichem Gruss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oliver Schoenknecht Join us at http://www.kapa.de KOSTENLOS! Online-Auktion bei KAPA! Teilnahme unter: http://www.flohmarkt.kapa.de
Re: Installation and startup of SB sound card driver, alsa etc.
I was trying to avoid recompiling because at the moment my only Linux box is this 120 mega byte disk machine so I don't want to install any more than absolutely necessary. I'm not sure I have room for the sources and gcc. I finally found a how-to for alsa. A cursory glance at it suggests that setting alsa up is a little more complex than just running dselect, I'll read the rest and see if it helps. Last minute news: I have finally managed to connect to http://www.alsa-project.org/, perhaps that will solve all my problems. Thanks, Kevin Whitefoot From: Joachim Trinkwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Whitefoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I used dselect to install alsu-utils and eveything else named alsa except the source. Ran also-config (or some similar name) and it created a startup script. I ran the script and tried to run aplayer and the other utils but all of them say that they cannot open the sound device. The relevant device files all exist (audio, dsp). Did you compile basic sound support as a module in the kernel? Then, if you don't have installed the same kernel-image as appriopriate for alsa-modules-2.2.XX, you should compile your own alsa-modules from the sources-deb. (cd /usr/src ; tar -xvzf alsa-sources-xxx ; cd linux ; make deb ; make-kpkg modules_image). Greetings, joachim -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: grep with actual date ?
How about having some perl-program sitting on your syslog-file doing something about refused connects in near-real-time? I have such running, so if anybody wants the (ugly!) code, just yell ;-) Or you could quickdirty just rotate your syslog-file daily... hth, rw On Tue, 16 May 2000 13:41:00 BST, Oliver Schoenknecht writes: Hi there, I am planning to do a daily system check with refused connects by placing them in a cron job. So far, so good. But - and that's the problem - does anyone know how to tell the grep-command to filter just the refused connects of today and not all those which are two weeks old ? This should happen each day frequently so any help would be appreciated very well... Thanks in advance, Oliver -- / Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: +43 1 89933 0 Fax x533 \ \KPNQwest/AT tech staff| Diefenbachg. 35 A-1150 Wien /
tar to remote system... security?
I want to do a remote backup: tar Zvcf localfriend:/tmp/mybackup.tar but I keep getting file cannot be accessed, broken pipe. What is the proper security setup for this to allow me to create the remote file? Thanks! Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
man -- info?
Why are man pages abandoned for info? Info requires emacs knowledge to navigate, and are text only. Man at least has xman viewer. Is there any option? Have man pages been html'ed for Debian? I have seen some INternet sites with man pages online.. Thanks. Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Installation CDs
Hi. Does anyone know precisely what I have to do to make up a set of installation CDs from the 2.2 ftp archive? I've got an official set of 2.1 disks, and as far as I can see, I need to make a CD with the disks-i386 and part of the binary-i386 directory on, and another with the remainder of the binary-i386 directory. I think then I need to put the full binary-i386/Packages file on the second disk, and cut it down to the list of whatever's on the first CD for the first disk. (And similarly for the Packages.gz files?) What else is there that I need to do? Is there a tool available to help this process along? TIA, Hugo. -- Hugo Mills -- The Creature from the Black Logon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For months, we have been making triumphant retreats before -- a demoralised enemy who is advancing in utter disorder.
Re: Can not get a floppy only install to work
This may not be related to you immediate problem but I would suspect your PS/2 has a mca microbus, if I remember correctly. If that is the case you can't use a stock Slink. There are people who have put together a kernel and installation disks for machines with mca. It has been so long I don't remember where to get them. I just did a search on the web and found them. It was not an easy install. hth, kent Tom wrote: Hi, I have an IBM PS/2 Model 8535 386sx with 4 meg RAM and a 75meg IDE hard drive and a 1.44 meg floppy drive. I am trying to do a base Debian install but can not get past the second disk. I have tried 2.1 and 2.2 now with the exact same results and error message. I start with the compact rescue disk, the system comes toa a prompt boot: I press enter, the system continues and then asks for the root disk. I insert the floppy that I made with the compact root.bin file and press enter the system then responds with end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy) sector 0 VFS: can not open root device 02:00 This message is consistent and I have already tried remaking the floppies on other new floppy disks, I have tried boot params of root=/dev/fd0 or floppy0 and always I have the same error message. After two days of fighting with this I would appreciate any help Thanks -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Can not get a floppy only install to work
I just found this link which looks like it might get you somewhere -- http://linux.miningco.com/compute/linux/library/weekly/aa040698.htm good luck, kent ktb wrote: This may not be related to you immediate problem but I would suspect your PS/2 has a mca microbus, if I remember correctly. If that is the case you can't use a stock Slink. There are people who have put together a kernel and installation disks for machines with mca. It has been so long I don't remember where to get them. I just did a search on the web and found them. It was not an easy install. hth, kent
Re: man -- info?
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 06:50:43AM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote: Why are man pages abandoned for info? They aren't for everything... Info requires emacs knowledge to navigate, and are text only. Man at least has xman viewer. Well, there's the standalone info program, tkinfo, the gnome-help-browser... others I'm sure. Is there any option? Have man pages been html'ed for Debian? I have seen some INternet sites with man pages online.. Documentation comes in many formats. Perhaps you'd enjoy the dhelp package. It's not perfect, but it works through your browser and will render info and man pages as html on the fly using (info2www and man2html). Admittedly, the state of documentation formats/programs could be a little better. I guess the move is toward SGML/XML/HTML... Overall registration/indexing is not consistent though. -- ¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·characterset·when·compos » ing·email·messages.
oracle and debian
Hi; Sorry for my english Is some one know the possibility to install Oracle(8.1.5, or 8i) en a debian box(slink or potato) ? Cordialement(Best) Kazem Bakhshesh E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 01.41.79.56.47 Fax: 01.41.79.56.10 Charenton Conflans
Re: oracle and debian
On Tue, 16 May 2000 BAKHSHESH Kazem (SoftCompagny) wrote: Hi; Sorry for my english Is some one know the possibility to install Oracle(8.1.5, or 8i) en a debian box(slink or potato) ? I would strongly recommend using 8.1.6 (= 8iR2). This release installs without serious problems, and works fine. If you install 8.1.5 be sure to install all patches before doing anything with Oracle. 8.1.5, without patches it was completely broken, at least for me. I am running 8.1.6 on an up to date potato with 2.2.14 and no problems concering the database. However installation of webdb or the application server is a little bit tricky. Daniel _ Daniel Faller Fakultaet fuer Physik Abt. Honerkamp Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg Tel.: 0761-203-5875 Fax.: 0761-203-5967 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://webber.physik.uni-freiburg.de/~fallerd
cdrecord problem
I have problems with my HP-CD Writer+ 9100. My system is a potato with a 2.2.14 kernel emulating ide-scsi (no ide-cd module loaded). cdrecord is version 1.8 My CD writer is at hdc and the hard drive is at hda. The problem is that at the end of the burn out, when fixating, cdrecord says there is following problem: Fixating... scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 4326, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 UNKNOWN(0x5b) 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } hdc: DMA disabled hdc: ATAPI reset complete hdc: irq timeout: status=0x80 { Busy } ide1: unexpected interrupt, status=0x51, count=1 hdc: ATAPI reset complete hdc: irq timeout: status=0x80 { Busy } cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x00 (incompatible medium installed) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) The recorded CD is not useful. Any idea? Your help will be apreciated. -- .'/,-Y ~-. Vicente Torres Carot l.Y ^. Universidad Politécnica de Valencia /\ __ Doh! Departamento de Ingeniería Electrónica i___/ \ Ctra. Nazaret-Oliva, s/n | / \ o ! 46730 Grau de Gandia (Valencia) l ] o !__./ SPAIN \ _ _\.___./~\ X \/ \___./ Tel.: (96)2849300 ( \ ___. _..--~~ ~`-. FAX: (96)2849309 ` Z,-- /\ __. ( / __) I don't apologize. I'm sorry, but that's \ l /-~~ / just the way I am. -- Homer Simpson -- Y \ / ## | x__.^ -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! --
IP forwarding
I have a box that I want to do IP forwarding. But, I can't ping outside hosts through it. The firewall sends packets from me, but it doesn't re-forward the ICMP echo replies (although you can see them with iptraf in promiscuous mode) back. # ipchains -L Chain input (policy ACCEPT): Chain forward (policy ACCEPT): Chain output (policy ACCEPT): # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1 -- Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible, and not very bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. -- The Hacker HOWTO Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] See the mail headers for GPG/advertising/homepage information. pgpMU0BKL11JZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
ipchains error
TO get around my problems with my rtl8139.o module not being recognized by moprobe, I recompiled the kernel 2.0.38 version with the driver rolled into it. This solved the problem beautifully (thanks, Peter). However, I get a load of ipchains errors on boot and now ipchains -L give me the error incompatable with the kernel. What do I have to do to get ipchains working again? Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 USA Fax (561) 382-7771 Take a virtual tour of the island http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide Find out more about NetConcepts www.netconcepts.ai bwz*mq
Re: man -- info?
At 05:53 AM 05/16/2000 -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: . Perhaps you'd enjoy the dhelp package. It's not perfect, but it works through your browser and will render info and man pages as html on the fly using (info2www and man2html). -- Where can I get info on this? Thanks. Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept
Jserv segfault on Debian
Hi! Has anyone got Jserv running on Debian? I installed all the required packages for Jserv, but when I run it it immediately segfaults. Any ideas? feri.
novell print client problem (nprint)
I am trying to print from my newly installed potato to an HP4000N over a Novell network. I have installed the ncpfs package and can mount a Novell drive (directory). The pqlist command works (i.e., it lists the print que I wish to print to). As root, if I issue the command: nprint -S OACS_MAIN_APPS -U my user info -P my password -q HP_LF_2220Q_HP4000N testpage.ps (all on one line, of course) I get the following error: create error I'm using the same user info and password that successfully works with the pqlist and ncpmount commands. No other error info is provided. I know this printer can handle postscript. I get the same error if I issue the command as a user, rather than as root. Ideas? What am I doing wrong? I have also tried using the printtool package, setting it up as both a postscript printer and an HP4 series. I do not get errors (that I can find). I also do not get output. Thanks! Dave David B. Wilson Department of Criminology Criminal Justice University of Maryland College Park Room 2220 LeFrak Hall University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742-8235 Phone: 301.405.4702; Fax: 301.405.4733 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where can I download Potato?
Does anyone have the exactly URL of it? Thanks, Menno Slaats
Re: oracle and debian
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered BAKHSHESH Kazem (SoftCompagny)'s letter: Is some one know the possibility to install Oracle(8.1.5, or 8i) en a debian box(slink or potato) ? yes. we use it on a potato box as devel machine. the production stuff goes an a sun 450, *grin*. ciao, federico -- Federico Di Gregorio MIXAD LIVE System Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer Italian Press Contact[EMAIL PROTECTED] The reverse side also has a reverse side. -- Japanese proverb
Re: grep with actual date ?
Oliver Schoenknecht said: I am planning to do a daily system check with refused connects by placing them in a cron job. So far, so good. But - and that's the problem - does anyone know how to tell the grep-command to filter just the refused connects of today and not all those which are two weeks old ? This should happen each day frequently so any help would be appreciated very well... I agree with the earlier poster that it'd be better to use a script for real(ish)-time monitoring and/or install the logrotate package to break up your logs by day (e.g., /var/log/messages is always today, /var/log/messages.0 is always yesterday, etc.), but... grep $(date +%b %d) filename will return all entries which include today's date. From there, you'll just need to build up the grep expression to filter it down to the messages that interest you. -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: IP forwarding
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: I have a box that I want to do IP forwarding. But, I can't ping outside hosts through it. The firewall sends packets from me, but it doesn't re-forward the ICMP echo replies (although you can see them with iptraf in promiscuous mode) back. # ipchains -L Chain input (policy ACCEPT): Chain forward (policy ACCEPT): Chain output (policy ACCEPT): # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Dwayne, Please don't take offense to my comments here, but there are quite a lot of things to learn about Linux firewalls and masquerading. I was new to Linux six months ago (still a newbie now) and wanted to create a firewall box for our company. I read all the HOW-TO's (NETWORK, IPCHAINS, FIREWALL, MASQ, etc.) a New Riders book by Robert Ziegler (Linux Firewalls) and also found some firewall scripts that I used as learning tools. If you want to learn about the details of ipchains please start with the HOWTO's and THEN the following web sites: #-- Robert Ziegler http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com #-- Rick Johnson http://www.pointman.org PS: You may not see many replies to your question because there are just too many variables involved. -- Mark Schiltz - Just Lurking to Learn I'm here to paint but I've forgotten my brush... You got beer?
Re: IP forwarding
I have a box that I want to do IP forwarding. But, I can't ping outside hosts through it. The firewall sends packets from me, but it doesn't re-forward the ICMP echo replies (although you can see them with iptraf in promiscuous mode) back. just an idea to make it easier to spot the error: add ipchains rules, which do logging: ipchains -A {input|output|forward} -j ACCEPT -l look, what happens then. possibly your problem is a routing one. does pinging the hosts from the gateway work? -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
Re: Where can I download Potato?
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Menno Slaats wrote: Does anyone have the exactly URL of it? ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/;.
Making my vt320 useful
actually, it's not a vt320, it's a wyse which emulates a vt320. my question is this: how do i get special keystrokes like control-X to go through as if i was typing on a local tty? The arrows and any control-key combination that isn't ^C (or a few others which are recognized by stty i think) just print out on the screen. this makes it very difficult to use emacs. :) when i hit ^X i literally see ^X. when i hit escape, i see ^]. the arrows do the same thing ^[[A and so on... can somebody point me to the correct program/config file i use to set this kind of stuff up? thanks, eric. -- _ _ | |(_) http://www.iit.edu/~jenseri | _| | | Page me via ICQ at | |___ | | http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19022931 |__/ | or by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__/
g++
I think there is something wrong with my g++ (using the latest version of frozen). If I make a file only containing #include iostream.h main(){} or $include iostream then: ~$ g++ test.cpp test.cpp:1: iostream: No such file or directory But: ~$ g++ -I /usr/include/g++-3 test.cpp ~$ I think it should work also without the -I option, since 'iostream' and STL etc are standard parts of C++, aren't they? And I am sure that it _did_ work without this -I option. So my question is if this happens only on my system, and if so how do I solve it (i supposed that there would be some environment variable with the include path, but I don't seem to be able to find this information). thanks, Michiel -- % Michiel Meeuwissen % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.purl.org/NET/mihxil/ % Vidu ankaux: http://www.uea.org/katalogo/eeb.cgi
Re: amd home map
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Michael Janssen (CS/MATH stud.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... It seems, after looking at the init.d script, there's no default way to automount something locally AND by NIS also.. Take a look at the patch in my previous posting. That (appears to) solve the problem. It's also filed under bug #64147 in the BTS. Of course, I should probably have marked it as Severity: wishlist... Or are you looking to take part of the map for the same mountpoint from NIS and part from the local filesystem? Why? Why not just use two separate mountpoints? - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IXA6PjGH3lNt65URAukyAJ9KH0gDCRukia744U6A5QBVYbup3ACgqgnm PtH6BAmrjm8gsJvmqhxMICU= =HZUh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Couple questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Cameron Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's the difference between typing 'su', and 'su root'? Nothing at all. Just that instead of typing 'su root', you can also do 'su otheruser'. Are their any noticable differences between the 2.2.14 kernel and 2.2.15? I2O support has been added. Fixes merged in for ISDN and a bunch of other drivers. There have been a few races/bugs sorted out. ISTR that the VM has been tweaked a little. The release notes will tell you it in all the gory details. Have a look at: http://www.linux.org.uk/ and follow the relevant link. - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IXEXPjGH3lNt65URAi6QAJ9iENX3Hcx4/a6pyFF4HZ2Q911VtwCfaGo2 tvWt/KVx9fix41K1ryGzVVU= =Eja9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Quick Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'apt-get install communicator' at the command prompt with root privileges. Or if you find the mai/news/composer stuff to be excess crap which you'll not use, you can do 'apt-get install navigator' and live happily ever after. :) - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IXF6PjGH3lNt65URAlKGAJ9Z/dWwNIWV1y4cqCHj76GBMtjijQCg0UAr rscT2Z+iyuFzVnTsLca/LJA= =Xkbm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: amd home map
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Barak Pearlmutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Graeme Mathieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For autofs ... I have the actual home directories on the server in /disk/home Doesn't this mean that all your home directories live on a single server? The reason we are considering amd (or autofs if it is capable) is to be able to have different users' home directories live on different machines. Couple of ways this can be achieved. You could explicitly list all the individual users' home directories in your auto.home map, for example: graeme server1:/disk/homes/u1/graeme derek server2:/disk/homes/u1/derek peter server1:/disk/homes/u2/peter etc. Initially, it looks to be very inefficient, but it can probably be generated quite simply. I've seen it implemented this way using amd (only difference being that they used hesiod maps instead of NIS maps). Another way to achieve it is an executable map. You're auto.master would have something along the lines of: /home program:/usr/local/bin/home-map --timeout 60 And home-map could be a shell/perl/c program which takes the key as an argument, and returns a single line of a map on STDOUT, or no output at all if the key cannot be matched. The executable map would be a far more elegant solution, but I suspect that it has be potential to be slower. OTOH, it could well lighten the load on your NIS server. - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IW9sPjGH3lNt65URAnMkAJ9WGh9HT2OtgDbrkvwJmfhoeg+3iwCfUdeU HqlW5NVSMWIpokLPlZ32Hek= =danJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Going from DHCP - Static IP network config
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, S. Salman Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What config files do I need to modify to change this box's networking setup from DHCP-based to one using a static IP address ? Or is there some to rerun the networking scripts that were part of the Debian installation ? Simplest solution? Get your network admin to put you static IP address in his DHCP config. That way, your system will still work with DHCP, but it'll always pick up the same address. Otherwise, look at /etc/network/interfaces. For recent versions of potato, it's well documented. You're going to want something along the lines of: iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.54.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.54.0 broadcast 192.168.54.255 gateway 192.168.54.254 - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IXKxPjGH3lNt65URApvxAKCmLeYfzX22yQ7eQADlFjE9M0sZJACgl8/W 4dqTSySYyg8HEnO+Og7kEKE= =Pn9/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: bashrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, montefin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1.) Edit his/her MOTD file to print to screen a set text message at login. (Edit your /etc/motd file, Avinash, to make it say what you want it to say.) But, as I said before, leave the first line blank. When the system is rebooted, the first line will be replaced with the contents of `uname -a` unless you edit /etc/default/rcS and set EDITMOTD=no. 2.) Attach a signature.txt file to his/her outgoing mail, such as I have attached to mine below. Write one in your home directory (~/signature.txt) and point your mail app to it, _but_ only 4 lines, Avinash, or you're gonna get back more mail than you care to read :) s/\.signature\.txt/.signature/g ALTHILTM, WTF does that mean? :) - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IXQlPjGH3lNt65URAokxAKC8av5Cxr/MI0OMafDkeqr32oOQAACfQYl7 0ue2+8zZqxlJBWDVy4YYFpM= =97Wi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Maikl Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Jay Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking to run a mail server similar to Microsoft Exchange. Is there something for debian out there I can use? If so what's the url? I've never come across one that buggy for Debian. :) There are dozens. The common term for them is Mail Transport Agents (MTAs). So anything in Debian that provides the virtual packages mail-transport-agent will do you nicely. Examples include: sendmail postfix qmail smail exim There are more. I like sendmail, but if you're just starting out, I wouldn't really recommend it. Postfix is very highly regarded. - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IXUePjGH3lNt65URAkMWAJ9o8pTao4u0ehu7Zafui03Ha+2l0wCgvwWf sIy00iuv1r9a+BVnQTqyMoU= =nRbT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
ReiserFS and USB (was Re: udf kernel patch)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Kristian Rink [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anybody have an idea what to do to get both USB *and* rfs in the same kernel? Is there an USB patch for 2.3.99? 2.3.99pre-n has USB already in it. Also, the bunch that are producing ReiserFS are alledgedly working hard to produce a patch suitable for inclusion in 2.3.x. They have one available, but last I noticed it wasn't absolutely finished/tested and it wasn't compatible with existing 2.2.x ReiserFS filesystems[1]. Maybe the situation is different now - I've given up trying to read the linux-kernel mailing list and just stick to kernel-traffic instead. [1] They changed the metadata format slightly, IIRC. - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5IXZNPjGH3lNt65URAmP0AKCU7NQ8y61XPWDKE7+N7mRUYfwpnACgsBvg 9JoMGKVacnf2FKr2JBzddqI= =bl5o -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: amd home map
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 03:54:29PM -0600, Barak Pearlmutter wrote: I have the actual home directories on the server in /disk/home Doesn't this mean that all your home directories live on a single server? The reason we are considering amd (or autofs if it is capable) is to be able to have different users' home directories live on different machines. AMD can do it. I've never played with autofs. One thing you can do is to use multiple layers of indirection - have one map which maps from a /home directory (or whatever) onto the real homedir volumes which are themselves automounted from the appropriate hosts. You could just share a symlink farm, but with a map you should reduce network traffic. There's also nothing requiring you to have all homedirs under /home except conveninece. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpy4UsJgHPPt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Tape Backup Problem
Hi All, I've been trying to get tape backup working on a server and almost everytime I attempt to backup files to the tape drive the machine goes crazy. The load goes sky high (way over 100.00) and it stops responding to everything. Maybe someone out there has some insight on the problem. Specs: Debian 2.0 with Kernel 2.2.2 running on a Dell with a Quantum DLT4000 tape drive. Details: I attempted to do a test backup a 150meg directory to tape using the tape backup program Taper After about 10min of it running (46% done) the machines load starting going up and up. I tried to stop the program, and kill it but was unable to since machine stop responding to my commands via telnet. The load was very high... -- load average: 246.98, 267.86, 210.28 Then i couldn't even telnet to the machine or anything. Everything appeared to be down, except that I could ping the machine. Finally about 30min later I was able to telnet back into the machine. I noticed several of the following messages in the messages file and also when i typed dmesg -- May 3 14:23:23 taz kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 228089503) timed out - resetting May 3 14:23:23 taz kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. -- So a week later I attempted again with tape backup using a different program. this time i used Tob. I did a small test backup using a 20meg directory. It appeared to work fine. I was able to backup and restore the files. I then attempted to backup a 2gig directory. After about 15min the machine went crazy like last time and load went up and I got locked out so I had to have someone reboot the machine. Didn't see any error messages in any logs or anything. Anyone ever expierance this problem? Anyone have any ideas what might be causing it? I been trying to figure it out for a couple weeks now with no luck. Any help is appreciated. TIA -Joe
Re: installing a printer
Hello Pollywog, On Sat, 13 May 2000, Pollywog wrote: I did not configure a printer when I installed Debian. Is there a tool to help me configure a printer now without reinstalling Debian? Of course you can configure a printer without reinstalling. The Debian way of doing things lets you do almost everything without even rebooting (remember: Linux is NOT at all like Windoze;-) (There are some exceptions, e.g. if you compiled a new kernel and want to start with it). Get the Printing-HOWTO at http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO.html There, all the steps are described. In short: 1. install printer spooling software (usually lpr or lprng) 2. install filter software (magicfilter or apsfilter, would be good to install all the tools, which they recommend (gs, jpeg-progs and the like) 3. run magicfilterconfig to configure your /etc/printcap file I am getting an Epson Stylus Color 740 and I will use the parallel connector until the 2.4 kernels are released. There was something about the Epson Stylus Color 740 on this list just a while ago. If it doesn't work, look at these mails or in the archive. I will need to recompile my kernel with printer support No you don't, because: The lp-module and the parport-modules will get installed during the installation of Debian (even if you didn't configure them during installation!), so if you didn't accidentally remove them, you should just make sure, that they are loaded, when printing. (Try the program modconf to tell your system which modules to load on startup and to configure them). Although it would not be a bad idea to recompile your kernel. It usually makes your system faster and the kernel smaller (as you can exclude drivers, which you don't need). Regards, Daniel
Re: installing a printer
On 16-May-2000 17:28:03 Daniel Reuter wrote: Get the Printing-HOWTO at http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO.html There, all the steps are described. In short: 1. install printer spooling software (usually lpr or lprng) 2. install filter software (magicfilter or apsfilter, would be good to install all the tools, which they recommend (gs, jpeg-progs and the like) 3. run magicfilterconfig to configure your /etc/printcap file I have done all these things, but I thought I still needed to obtain a driver for the printer, in order to print PostScript and formats other than ASCII text. I am getting an Epson Stylus Color 740 and I will use the parallel connector until the 2.4 kernels are released. There was something about the Epson Stylus Color 740 on this list just a while ago. If it doesn't work, look at these mails or in the archive. Thanks, I will check the archive. I will need to recompile my kernel with printer support No you don't, because: The lp-module and the parport-modules will get installed during the installation of Debian (even if you didn't configure them during installation!), so if you didn't accidentally remove them, you should just make sure, that they are loaded, when printing. (Try the program modconf to tell your system which modules to load on startup and to configure them). Although it would not be a bad idea to recompile your kernel. It usually makes your system faster and the kernel smaller (as you can exclude drivers, which you don't need). I have compiled a development kernel and I made sure to add parallel printer and USB support. I just obtained a script for iptables, so I can start using the 2.3 kernel. thanks -- Andrew
Re: Tape Backup Problem
I had the same problem, but I had a scsi HP and I only tried taper. I was using 2.2.12 with slink. Kevin - Original Message - From: JoeCool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:18 AM Subject: Tape Backup Problem Hi All, I've been trying to get tape backup working on a server and almost everytime I attempt to backup files to the tape drive the machine goes crazy. The load goes sky high (way over 100.00) and it stops responding to everything. Maybe someone out there has some insight on the problem. Specs: Debian 2.0 with Kernel 2.2.2 running on a Dell with a Quantum DLT4000 tape drive. Details: I attempted to do a test backup a 150meg directory to tape using the tape backup program Taper After about 10min of it running (46% done) the machines load starting going up and up. I tried to stop the program, and kill it but was unable to since machine stop responding to my commands via telnet. The load was very high... -- load average: 246.98, 267.86, 210.28 Then i couldn't even telnet to the machine or anything. Everything appeared to be down, except that I could ping the machine. Finally about 30min later I was able to telnet back into the machine. I noticed several of the following messages in the messages file and also when i typed dmesg -- May 3 14:23:23 taz kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 228089503) timed out - resetting May 3 14:23:23 taz kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. -- So a week later I attempted again with tape backup using a different program. this time i used Tob. I did a small test backup using a 20meg directory. It appeared to work fine. I was able to backup and restore the files. I then attempted to backup a 2gig directory. After about 15min the machine went crazy like last time and load went up and I got locked out so I had to have someone reboot the machine. Didn't see any error messages in any logs or anything. Anyone ever expierance this problem? Anyone have any ideas what might be causing it? I been trying to figure it out for a couple weeks now with no luck. Any help is appreciated. TIA -Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wanted a free library for computational geometry
Hi, I'm going to write some programs of computational geometry, so i need a library (probably a set of libs) for data type and algorithms. AFAIK there are 2 library that could hit my need: LEDA (http://www.mpi-sb.mpg.de/LEDA/) for data type and CGAL (http://www.cs.ruu.nl/CGAL/) for algorithms. But no one of that are GPLed. I think I can use glib in place of LEDA, but it's not enought for me so i need to link agaist something other. I've no starting point at all for replacement of CGAL. Any suggestion? -- Daniele Cruciani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check my GPG sign at ..??..
RE: Making my vt320 useful
Is your TERM variable set to vt320? There are also a bunch of wyse types. See /usr/lib/terminfo/v/* and /usr/lib/terminfo/w/*. (or /usr/share/terminfo/...) On other systems there is a file in /etc/ that specifies what kind of terminal is on which serial line (gettydefs or ttytype or something like that). I don't see it on my system. I have the stock getty and it might take one of the other getty packages to have that file... jim -- From: Eric[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:34 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Making my vt320 useful actually, it's not a vt320, it's a wyse which emulates a vt320. my question is this: how do i get special keystrokes like control-X to go through as if i was typing on a local tty? The arrows and any control-key combination that isn't ^C (or a few others which are recognized by stty i think) just print out on the screen. this makes it very difficult to use emacs. :) when i hit ^X i literally see ^X. when i hit escape, i see ^]. the arrows do the same thing ^[[A and so on... can somebody point me to the correct program/config file i use to set this kind of stuff up? thanks, eric. -- _ _ | |(_) http://www.iit.edu/~jenseri | _| | | Page me via ICQ at | |___ | | http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19022931 |__/ | or by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Wanted a free library for computational geometry
On 16-May-2000 Daniele Cruciani wrote: Hi, I'm going to write some programs of computational geometry, so i need a library (probably a set of libs) for data type and algorithms. AFAIK there are 2 library that could hit my need: LEDA (http://www.mpi-sb.mpg.de/LEDA/) for data type and CGAL (http://www.cs.ruu.nl/CGAL/) for algorithms. But no one of that are GPLed. I think I can use glib in place of LEDA, but it's not enought for me so i need to link agaist something other. I've no starting point at all for replacement of CGAL. Any suggestion? I am assuming that you have searched google.com and freshmeat? Python has numerous math libs, perhaps you could crib some of their work. Much of their math code is actually in C, then wrapped as a python module.
hide the commabd executed from ps,who
How can I hide the commond I am executing so that people can't see it from ps,or who?For example,if i use mysql by typing mysql -u myname -p passsword ..people can see my password...So it would be good if I can hide what i am doing from other user...espcially for some program which I can specify my password in command line...
Re: Epson 740
Thanks again for the reply. :) I tried the command you suggested for a text file and for a .ps file: # lpr -Plp4 test.ps # lpr -Pascii file.txt) ...and both times got the same error message printed on the page: Unknown device: escp2 , then the page hangs and I have to press the sheet feed button. I had to revert back to 2.1 (from a tarball backup) so I'm currently running apsfilter v4.9.7-5 and gs-aladdin v5.50-3. You can find my current printcap here: ftp://mattyt.net/pub/printcap Thanks for your help and patience... :) -Cheers If you used apsfilter, your printcap probably has several printers defined. To print to the ascii printer, I use the command lpr -Pascii file.txt For postscript files, I use one of the other printers. For printing from windows to the printserver I use the raw printer shared via samba. You should probably read over the printing howto. There's some good info there. Then check out the man page for lpr and related utilitys. Hope that helps some. On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 01:42:37PM -0700, Matthew Thompson wrote: Well, I had heard that printtool was an easy program to use to set up my printer, so I upgraded to 2.2 in order to install printtool. What I didn't know was that printtool is a graphical program, and I don't run any XFree on my server, I don't even have a monitor or keyboard hooked up, just ssh access. After I upgraded, I ran apsfilterconfig again. I chose the stcolor driver and the test page printed out beautifully. I was excited, thinking I had figured it out, but when I attempt to print a text file, the printer feeds the paper in, prints a little, then hangs with the paper halfway in. After a bit I push the paper feed button, and the printer has printed 'unknown device: escp2'. Should I be using the lpr command or something else? What else can I check? I'm pulling my hair out, here, guys. TIA... :) It sounds to me that you didnt restart lprng after you configured your printer. I'm using lprng, and apsfilter and my setup looks very similar to yours. Check the paths for all the print filters, but what you have looks very similar to what I'm currently using. On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 12:12:48PM -0700, Matthew Thompson wrote: Ment (may I call you Ment? ;), Thanks for your reply. :) Sometimes I feel pretty thick, since I've been using Debian for about 3 years and still stumble over stuff like this. *sigh* Anyway, you willing to spoon-feed me a bit, here? I already had gsfonts installed, so I installed apsfilter using dselect. It ran me through the config, and I chose the following printer: escp2: Epson ESC/P 2 language printers, including Stylus 800 I set the other values it asked for, and it finished, saying cheerfully 'we made it!'. ;) I then attempted to print a text file with: # lpr file and got this output: no printcap for printer 'ascii' job 'cfA758doma.mattyt.net' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed :sh: snip I'm afraid I don't know where to go from here. BTW, I'm using lprng instead of lpr on a friend's suggestion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), if that makes any difference. Hope I'm not too big a PITA. :) Cheers... On Sat, 13 May 2000, Mental wrote: Matthew Thompson http://mattyt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oz.net/~mattyt --Someday, I'll have a web page.-- -- Mental When in doubt, use brute force. --Ken Thompson (author of unix) PGP 2.6.3a Public Key: http://www.neverlight.com/Mental-PublicKey.pgp GPG 1.0.1 Public Key: http://www.neverlight.com/mental-gpg.asc Matthew Thompson http://mattyt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oz.net/~mattyt --Someday, I'll have a web page.--
hypenation in tetex
How does one change hypenation in potato tetex ?? I've run texconfig and changed the /etc/texmf/language.dat - no effect. When I run Latex I still get the original hypenation: This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1) (avt.tex LaTeX2e 1998/12/01 patch level 1 Babel v3.6x and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, n ohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size12.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty beta test version (koi8-r.def)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/russianb.ldf (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.def) Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for (babel)the language `Russian' (babel)I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 instead. -Igor Mozetic
Re: Tape Backup Problem
Debian 2.0 with Kernel 2.2.2 running on a Dell with a Quantum DLT4000 tape drive. Details: I attempted to do a test backup a 150meg directory to tape using the tape backup program Taper After about 10min of it running (46% I had the same experience on kernel 2.0.38 with a HP DDS-2 when using taper and/or kbackup. Settled down for plain tar. hth, rw -- / Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: +43 1 89933 0 Fax x533 \ \KPNQwest/AT tech staff| Diefenbachg. 35 A-1150 Wien /
RE: hide the commabd executed from ps,who
On 16-May-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I hide the commond I am executing so that people can't see it from ps,or who?For example,if i use mysql by typing mysql -u myname -p passsword ..people can see my password...So it would be good if I can hide what i am doing from other user...espcially for some program which I can specify my password in command line... don't put your password on the commandline. Even if ps does not show it, it will appear in /proc.
xntp
I wish to keep time synchronised by using my ISP's timeserver. This box is a stand-alone one, and I connect using a modem. After installing xntp3 and xntp3-doc packages, I find the docs far too complex to fully understand, and the program aims for far greater accuracy than I need. /etc/ntp.conf allows for an xntpd logfile, a directory for ntpstats (loopstats, peerstats and clockstats) and a driftfile. I have edited the file to include the server (tick..net). When I run /usr/sbin/xntpd, I appear to connect and the program seems to start, but I cannot tell from the log if it has been successful. (Before starting, I ascertained from timeticker that the clock was out by some 52 secs). /var/log/xntpd shows the following:- 20.19.55 xntpd [171] synchronized to time server, stratum =2 20.20.29 xntpd [171] time reset (stop) 33.461355 s 20.20.29 xntpd [171] synchronization lost 20.27.00 xntpd [171] synchronized to time server, stratum =3 20.30.13 synchronization lost 20.32.20 synchronizsed to time server, stratum =2 20.35.33 synchronization lost I can't understand the /var/log/ntpstats files (loopstats and peerstats) as the columns seem not to relate to what /etc/ntp.conf suggests to me they should. At the same time, one column which could refer to time differences in seconds could indicate an attempt was made to synchronize - the first entries 53.xxx, the next 0.xxx and the last lot -1.xxx. Are there any explanatory notes (preferably in simple terms) for the contents of the ntpstat log files? Can anyone offer any ideas as to where I should go from here? Grateful for any assistance, John.
Re: Making my vt320 useful
TERM was set to vt320. I have switched my inittab to say: T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -Lhwi ttyS1 38400 wy185 now though, so not TERM is wy185 (which is the model of my terminal). i don't think the /etc/gettydefs is necessary anyways since i specify my terminal type as an argument to getty. having switched terminal types, my situation has changed a bit. i now have a few different problems (but things are a bit better in general): 1. if my terminal is on while i boot it gets all sort of ugly weird characters on it. 2. the arrow keys don't function as arrow keys in the shell (instead of getting my history when i hit up i get a listing of tab-completions and a trailing 'A'). the arrows do work, however, in jed (emacs like editor). 3. i can only run jed once. it works perfectly the first time, arrows, escape, all the Control-key combos i want. however, the second time i run it i just get junk on my screen...a whole bunch of weird escape sequences and a lot of beeping from an unhappy terminal. any ideas on how to fix these? eric. On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 02:33:10PM -0400, Lewis, James M. wrote: Is your TERM variable set to vt320? There are also a bunch of wyse types. See /usr/lib/terminfo/v/* and /usr/lib/terminfo/w/*. (or /usr/share/terminfo/...) On other systems there is a file in /etc/ that specifies what kind of terminal is on which serial line (gettydefs or ttytype or something like that). I don't see it on my system. I have the stock getty and it might take one of the other getty packages to have that file... jim -- From: Eric[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:34 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:Making my vt320 useful actually, it's not a vt320, it's a wyse which emulates a vt320. my question is this: how do i get special keystrokes like control-X to go through as if i was typing on a local tty? The arrows and any control-key combination that isn't ^C (or a few others which are recognized by stty i think) just print out on the screen. this makes it very difficult to use emacs. :) when i hit ^X i literally see ^X. when i hit escape, i see ^]. the arrows do the same thing ^[[A and so on... can somebody point me to the correct program/config file i use to set this kind of stuff up? thanks, eric. -- _ _ | |(_) http://www.iit.edu/~jenseri | _| | | Page me via ICQ at | |___ | | http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19022931 |__/ | or by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- _ _ | |(_) http://www.iit.edu/~jenseri | _| | | Page me via ICQ at | |___ | | http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19022931 |__/ | or by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__/