Mala notícia per als usuaris de KDE

2001-08-15 Thread Antoni Bella Perez
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  No en conec el motiu però el KDE en la seva versió 2.2 sembla estar orfe de 
traductor al català u som vist en http://i18n.kde.org/teams/distributed.html 
i el català no hi es a més de que les fonts corresponents tampoc apareixen al 
ftp.

  Vaja, algú que pugui ampliar aquesta informació?

  Gràcies
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Re: Ejemplos claros de iptables

2001-08-15 Thread MaX in the FaX

Aquí hay muchos ejemplos:

http://www.linuxguruz.org/iptables/

ciao,
MaX


Fco. Aguilar wrote:


En Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 05:52:29AM -0500, Carlos López escribió:


Buenas.

He de montar con woody un gateway de filtrado de
paquetes que une dos máquinas y lo quisiera hacer con
iptables. Solo que lo encuentro muy liadillo.

Alguien sabe de algún site que contenga ejemplos un
poco claros sobre iptables???

Gracias.



Buscas el MonMotha's Firewall , un script con iptables muy apañado.
Creo que su página tiene problemas, así que te lo mando por correo. (Son
18 k sólamente). Tendrás que ponerlo en algún sitio donde se ejecute cuando
te conectes automáticamente (¿/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/?) . Tendrás que editarlo
un poco para poner tus DNS, las ip de tu red local y los puertos que quieras
abiertos al exterior. Te pone las reglas de masquerading y firewall.


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Re: Hay alguna explicación para este ataque ?

2001-08-15 Thread chafar
Hola.

Yo diría que alguien ha decidido hacer probar a un spammer su propia
medicina.

Saludos.

El mié, 08/08/01 ago 01, a las 06:56, Luis Arocha -data- decía:
 Y el martes  7 de agosto, Antonio Castro escribió:
  Es posible suscribir a una persona sin su consentimiento
  en todas esas listas de debian ? 
 
 Si. Es perfectamente posible.
 El truco consiste en darse de alta en una de esas monas cuentas de
 correo gratuitas que realizan forwarding. Una vez que tengas la cuenta
 pides y confirmas la suscripcion a todas las listas de correo que
 conozcas.
 Cuando ya tienes bastantes basta con modificar el destinatario del
 forward y ya está.
  
  Eso sería bastante grave no ?
 La solución sería que los proveedores de cuentas de este tipo
 mantuvieran un registro de las cuentas a las que se ha hecho forward y
 lo proporcionaran (a petición) al actual propietario. De esta manera se
 podría seguir la pista al bromista.
 
  
  Supongo que será una venganza de alguien con acceso a esa 
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 Efectivamente, tiene toda la pinta de una venganza por SPAM.
 
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XFree86

2001-08-15 Thread kris



de 
donde veo la versión de XFree que estoy usando?
..debian 2.2 potato

gracias


RE: XFree86

2001-08-15 Thread kris
lo intenté
pero no tengo XFree86 como comando

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Asunto: Re: XFree86


El Miércoles 15 Agosto 2001 12:46, kris escribió:
 de donde veo la versión de XFree que estoy usando?
 ..debian 2.2 potato

 gracias

XFree86 -version  tecleado en un terminal


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netscape 6.1 plugin

2001-08-15 Thread Felipe Fernandez
Me he bajado el netscape 6.1 y despues de instalarse, el solito, no se
como añadirle plugin a los poquisimos que trae. Concretamente quiero
añadirle el acrobat, que tambien me lo he bajado e instalado, he copiado
el nppdf.so en el directorio de plugins pero nanai, cuando intento ver
un pdf desde el netscape me lo intenta guardar. ¿Donde está el fallo?:




Reproductor MP3 sin XWindows??

2001-08-15 Thread Anton Bermudez Rodamilans
Alguien sabe si hay algun reproductor de MP3 decente q no vaya con
XWindows??

Asias de antemano



Re: Reproductor MP3 sin XWindows??

2001-08-15 Thread Albert Jane
El d_ 15 Aug 2001 14:34:17 +0200, Anton Bermudez Rodamilans escribi_
 Alguien sabe si hay algun reproductor de MP3 decente q no vaya con
 XWindows??
 
 Asias de antemano
 
 

Yo uso mpg123 no tiene muchas florituras, pero pa que las quieres. ;)
Si quieres algno mas monino puedes usar el mp3blaster.

Taluegooo !





Potato update

2001-08-15 Thread Fernando G. Ricchi
Holas:

Alguien me puede decir de que site puedo bajar las update's de Potato?
(La idea es bajarlo con wget).

Gracias
Fernando



Re: Reproductor MP3 sin XWindows??

2001-08-15 Thread Ramon Pons Vivanco
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On Wednesday 15 August 2001 14:37, Albert Jane wrote:
 El d_ 15 Aug 2001 14:34:17 +0200, Anton Bermudez Rodamilans escribi_

  Alguien sabe si hay algun reproductor de MP3 decente q no vaya con
  XWindows??
 
  Asias de antemano

 Yo uso mpg123 no tiene muchas florituras, pero pa que las quieres. ;)
 Si quieres algno mas monino puedes usar el mp3blaster.

 Taluegooo !

freeamp es otra opción.

Un saludo,

Ramón Pons Vivanco
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Re: Problema con la configuracion de sonido en potato

2001-08-15 Thread Fabian
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 Hola compañeros,
 estoy tratando de configurar el sonido de mi debian. Poseo una SB PCI
 128 y segun lspci el modulo q debo instalar es el es1371. Sin embargo cuando
 uso modconf da error ya q dice q el recurso debe estar ocupado. Seguramente
 sera un problema de IRQs o similiar; pero lo cierto es q no tengo ninguna
 informacion sobre como proceder ni se donde buscar la documentacion
 apropiada (he leifdo el howto de sonido pero no m ha servido d mucho. Asi q
 agradeceria indicaciones sobre q hacer o sobre q documentacion consultar.
 
 Gracias por vuestra ayuda,
 Javier
 

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linux.
Si tenes una placa de red instalada ?, puede que ahi este el problema.

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Re: S.O.S. Particionar disco duro.

2001-08-15 Thread Antonio Castro
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, David Santandreu wrote:

 Hola a todos,
 
 La verdad es que lo mío ese de juzgado de guardia.
 Estoy intentando particionar el disco duro para instalar Debian. Quiero dejar 
 una partición para W98 y hacer una nueva.
 
 Después de 3 defrag's resulta que el pqmagic me dice que no tengo nada libre 
 en mi disco duro (cuando sé que tengo por lo menos 6 Gigas). 
 
 El Fips me dice 'error: last cylinder is not free', y algo así como que debo 
 de tener en el último cilindro algún archivo del tipo image.idx o 
 mirorsav.fil. Pero por más que busco en el disco duro NO VEO ESOS ARCHIVOS.
 
 He probado a desactivar la memoria virtual, borrar los atributos de los 
 ficheros de C, volver a pasar el defrag y hacer el pino durante el proceso... 
 Ni flores.
 
 Creo que después de esto me voy a dedicar a las margaritas, porque si ya 
 empiezo así ...
 
 Bueno, si alguien sabe cómo ayudarme lo agradecería un montón, sobre todo 
 porque de tanto hacer el pino la sangre se me baja a la cabeza, y creo que no 
 debe ser muy güeno.
 
 Un Saludo y gracias por vuestra atención.
 David.

Algunos programitas se instalan en el último cilindro o ponen datos en
ese lugar y particularmente esto lo hace muchos antivirus. Si usas alguna
especie de centinela deberas detenerlo y volver a probar. Si no funciona 
desinstala el antivirus antes de usar defrag. Una vez defragmentado y 
particionado puedes volver a usar el antivirus. Suerte !!


Un saludo

Antonio Castro

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RE: XFree86

2001-08-15 Thread Alfonso García Rodríguez
kris writes:
  lo intenté
  pero no tengo XFree86 como comando
  
 
$ xdpyinfo | less

name of display::0.0
version number:11.0
vendor string:The XFree86 Project, Inc
-- vendor release number:3360 --

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=?iso-8859-1?Q?=BFdonde esta iptables??=

2001-08-15 Thread Binarius Z
hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED] =8)

estoy tratando de usar NAT, pero una vez compilados los modulos del kernel, 
puedo cargar el modulo iptable_nat, pero no encuentro el ejecutable iptables 
para modificar las tablas de NAT.

¿donde esta?

gracias =8)

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Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=BFdonde esta iptables??=

2001-08-15 Thread Fabian Arias
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Binarius Z wrote:

 hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED] =8)
 
 estoy tratando de usar NAT, pero una vez compilados los modulos del kernel, 
 puedo cargar el modulo iptable_nat, pero no encuentro el ejecutable iptables 
 para modificar las tablas de NAT.
 
 ¿donde esta?

apt-get install iptables

http://netfilter.samba.org

 
 gracias =8)
 
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Duda sobre mpg123

2001-08-15 Thread Anton Bermudez Rodamilans
Mi duda no se si es por culpa del prgrama mpg123 o de otra cosa ...
Resulta que me reproduce perfectamente pero se oyo bastante flojo ...
saben pq puede ser ??? 

Gracias de antemano



RE: Streaming / video - internet

2001-08-15 Thread Carlos Martinez
Precisamente he terminado hace un mes un proyecto de robótica en el que se
usaba un servidor de video para eso. El servidor se manejaba vía web y se
podían tomar los datos de la imagen y ponerla en una página sin problemas.
Si las cámaras permiten zoom, había herramientas para usarlo.
Sobre el tema del formato, no tengo ni idea. Quizá el fabricante pueda darte
más datos. Si estás interesado (o alguien), ya te comento más detalles en
privado.
Saludos,
Carlos
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 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto: Streaming / video - internet


 Hola,

 Alguien con experiencia en trasmision en tiempo real?

 Quisiera saber si es posible escoger desde una pagina web una
 camara de video determinada en un edificio.

 Mas que nada el hardware involucrado... existe algun switch para esto?

 Y especificamente sobre linux... es realplayer el mejor formato
 como se dice?  En /. hubo una discusion hace algun tiempo en que
 algunos decididamente optaban por MediaPlayer...

 Cualquier orientacion al respecto sera +q bienvenida.

 Salu2,

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Re: ftp interno para apt y squid

2001-08-15 Thread Alfonso
Hola,

Pues yo siempre pongo esto y me funciona:

# nohup wget -m http://dondesea.com/directorio/ 

Siempre terminando en / al final si quieres que te haga el mirror completo. De
todas formas, si el sitio web no tiene opción de browsing habilitada, no se
puede hacer el mirror, es decir, que permita listar los ficheros de los
directorios. Siempre que puedas, haz el mirror de un ftp, suele haber menos
problemas, porque a veces te sigue links que no quieres, aunque hay una opción
para que no siga links. Yo siempre que hay que bajarse varios ficheros, procuro
buscarme un sitio ftp.


Espero que te sirva, saludos.


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To: Alfonso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: ftp interno para apt y squid



 Estube probando con wget y use estos parametros

 wget --mirror http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/\
 -o wget.log

 esto lo hago desde el directorio donde quiero que me deje los archivos y en
 ese directorio me arma toda la estructura de directorios y por cada archivo
 que hay deja una especie de temporal pero no me copia al archivo.
 Hice una prueba con este directorio para despues si me funciona hacer la
 prueba con tada la distribucion woody completa.
 Alguna idea de que puede ser.

 Gracias de antemano y saludos.





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Re: Duda sobre mpg123

2001-08-15 Thread Miguel Angel
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 09:57:18PM +0200, Anton Bermudez Rodamilans wrote:
 Mi duda no se si es por culpa del prgrama mpg123 o de otra cosa ...
 Resulta que me reproduce perfectamente pero se oyo bastante flojo ...
 saben pq puede ser ??? 

Talvez cosa del mezclador, que tenga el volumen bajo. 
Para que se oiga alto tengo en mi .bashrc la línea
aumix -v100 -p100 -c100 -w40
(man aumix para más información)

Saludos y suerte :-)

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Re: Archivos de configuracion DHCP ?

2001-08-15 Thread José Luis Fernández Barros
El Dom 12 Ago 2001 12:54, Francisca Ceballos escribió:
   Me gustaria saber cuales son todos los archivos
 que se utilizan para hacer la conexion mediante
 tarjeta de red y un modem cable. Tengo un Linux
 Mandrake el cual se configuro solito y muy bien, y me
 gustaria rescatarlos para usarlos con Debian :).
   He pensado tambien tomar el XF96Config y el GRUB
 ¿alguna idea mas sobre la configuracion de Linux?,
 sobre la configuracion de programas y utilidades ya
 tengo lo necesario. Gracias

Si quieres leer:
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Cable-Modem.html

Al instalar Potato te pregunta si estás conectado a una red DHCP o BOOTP; si 
le hubiéses dicho que sí te funcionaría tan bien como la Mancake.

Pero con Debian nunca se reinstala!. Instala el paquete pump, y añade a 
/etc/network/interfaces
iface eth0 inet dhcp

Con Debian tampoco hay que reiniciar:
ifup eth0



Re: Duda sobre mpg123

2001-08-15 Thread Martínez
El Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 09:57:18PM +0200, Anton Bermudez Rodamilans garabateó:
 Mi duda no se si es por culpa del prgrama mpg123 o de otra cosa ...
 Resulta que me reproduce perfectamente pero se oyo bastante flojo ...
 saben pq puede ser ??? 

puede que te falten permisos en el mezclador, asígnale una máscara 770 o 777 a 
/dev/mixer y lo oirás mejor. Por supuesto, esto es una animalada de gran 
calibre, pero es lo único que me ha funcionado :))


saludos
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Re: Duda sobre mpg123

2001-08-15 Thread Miguel Angel
On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:39:05AM +0200, Diego Martínez Castañeda wrote:
 puede que te falten permisos en el mezclador, asígnale una máscara 770 o 777 
 a /dev/mixer y lo oirás mejor. Por supuesto, esto es una animalada de gran 
 calibre, pero es lo único que me ha funcionado :))

Ciertamente no es muy fino ;-)
Prueba con esto:

# adduser fulanito audio

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Debian autobuilder

2001-08-15 Thread Mathias
Är det någon som vet om det finns något sätt att få debian att
bygga sig själv automatiskt, eller till en annan dest. typ
i586/i686 eller Athlon optimerat?

Mathias



Re: Debian autobuilder

2001-08-15 Thread André Dahlqvist
Mathias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Är det någon som vet om det finns något sätt att få debian att
 bygga sig själv automatiskt, eller till en annan dest. typ
 i586/i686 eller Athlon optimerat?

För att kompilera paket optimerade för Pentium kan du använda paketet
pentium-builder. Något sätt att automatiskt kompilera om alla paket
i Debian, om det är det du eftersöker, tror jag inte att det finns.

Du bör dock vara medveten om att vinsten med att kompilera om paketen
för en viss processor vanligtvis är väldigt liten. Endast för processor-
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Re: atualizacao do kernel e instalacao modem motorola HSP 56 modem/fax

2001-08-15 Thread Emerson Val Silva
On Tuesday 14 August 2001 14:59, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
 Em Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:00:11 -0300 (EST)

 Rodrigo Morais Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   gunzip -xvf linux-2.4.8.tar.gz

 o certo:

 tar zxpvf linux-2.4.8.tar.gz

 para atualizar os pacotes estão em http://people.debian.org/~bunk
 você não perde nada em ficar com o 2.2, se mesmo assim quiser
 experimentar, deixe uma opção de boot para o 2.2 ;)

 []s!

gunzip -cd linux-2.4.8.tar.gz | tar x 
bunzip2 -cd linux-2.4.8.tar.bz2 | tar x 

também funcionam, e sem problemas de flags diferentes com o tar




Re: modem não funciona!

2001-08-15 Thread Carlos Laviola
On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 10:35:21PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
 Em Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:28:59 -0300
 Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Se fosse tão fácil. Só vendo um bicho desses realmente pra ver como dá
  trabalho. E eu tentei, pode acreditar. :/
 heh... pois eu achei fácil =), no mesmo dia que comprei meu pc novo
 pus o meu pra funcionar =)

Pois onde eu fui instalar, o módulo compilava e se carregava
perfeitamente, indicando que tinha achado modem PCtel não sei aonde. Na
hora do vamos ver com minicom, nada. Bah :/

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Modem a cabo

2001-08-15 Thread Lalo Martins
Dae gente

Tou ponderando eventualmente assinar o AJato a cabo, mas um
amigo me disse que exige software propriet?rio (e portanto n?o
funciona com linux). Isso n?o bate com a informa??o que eu
tenho da TVA, mas at? a?, n?s sabemos a qualidade do
treinamento de vendedores t?cnicnos em .br, certo? Achei que
n?o custava perguntar se algu?m aqui j? usou ou j? viu com
sucesso e se tem algum truque :-)

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Re: Modem a cabo

2001-08-15 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Claviola, 
voce nao usa aJATO no Linux?
Um abraço,  PH

Quoting Lalo Martins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Dae gente
 
 Tou ponderando eventualmente assinar o AJato a cabo, mas um
 amigo me disse que exige software proprietário (e portanto não
 funciona com linux). Isso não bate com a informação que eu
 tenho da TVA, mas até aí, nós sabemos a qualidade do
 treinamento de vendedores técnicnos em .br, certo? Achei que
 não custava perguntar se alguém aqui já usou ou já viu com
 sucesso e se tem algum truque :-)
 
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Re: modem não funciona!

2001-08-15 Thread leo
Em Terça 14 Agosto 2001 14:26, marcos arruda lima escreveu:

 ola amigos !
Olá
 estou tendo um serio problema com meu modem, não sei o que fazer com ele
 é um for windows hsp56k micromodem.
 se alguem souber como eu faço para colocalo para funcionar porfavor eu
 ficarei muito agradecido!

Qual kernel? Também possuo um e ele funciona perfeitamente. Vai na página do 
kov que lá tem um tutorial.
http://www.metainfo.org/kov

Inté



Re: Modem a cabo

2001-08-15 Thread Carlos Laviola
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 04:32:36AM -0300, Lalo Martins wrote:
 Tou ponderando eventualmente assinar o AJato a cabo, mas um
 amigo me disse que exige software proprietário (e portanto não
 funciona com linux). Isso não bate com a informação que eu

[ Nota: Pra mim, acesso pelo Ajato == acesso bidirecional ]

Funciona perfeitamente. O único software que é requerido é um cliente de
DHCP, que existe pra qualquer SO. Eu uso Ajato no Debian há pelo menos 8
meses.

 tenho da TVA, mas até aí, nós sabemos a qualidade do
 treinamento de vendedores técnicnos em .br, certo? Achei que
 não custava perguntar se alguém aqui já usou ou já viu com
 sucesso e se tem algum truque :-)

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Re: rotina do administrador

2001-08-15 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
 Gostaria de saber de voces, que trabalham como administradores de rede e
 sistemas, qual eh a rotina diaria de voces pra deixar seus servidores
 funcionando da
 melhor maneira possivel.

A rotina é simples: muito café, muitos HOWTOS, muitas man's, estudar 
shell 
script, perl, python e c,  participar de várias listas de discussão e dormir 
tarde.  A coisa fica mais neurótica quando se adquire um ADSL ou qualquer 
tipo de link dedicado em casa.

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Intel 810

2001-08-15 Thread Douglas Silvio Corrêa



Alguém já instalou a placa de vídeo com chipset Intel(R) 810 
?

Eu não estou conseguindo
E outra coisa, onde eu "falo" proh XF86 que ele vá buscar o 
arquivo XF86Config? Pois ele está indow buscar primeiro no 
/root/XF86Config

Um abraço
Douglas


Configurar Plca de Video

2001-08-15 Thread Jackson R. Meireles
Ola all,

estou precisando de ajuda para configurar uma placa de video IGS 1680
. Não consegui achar nada sobre ela. Estou iniciando no Linux agora e estou
maravilhado, mas so está placa que esta sendo uma pedra no meu sapato.

Jackson R. Meireles

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Re: Intel 810

2001-08-15 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:17:05 -0300
Douglas Silvio Corrêa [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Alguém já instalou a placa de vídeo com chipset Intel(R) 810 ?
já fiz isso com X4... com X3 eu consegui só 640x480x8

 E outra coisa, onde eu falo proh XF86 que ele vá buscar o arquivo 
 XF86Config?
 Pois ele está indow buscar primeiro no /root/XF86Config
esse é o comportamento normal... tire o /root/XF86Config

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Som e Modem

2001-08-15 Thread Renato Soares Bigio





Ola amigos, sou novato no Linux .
Instalei o Debian 2.2r3, mas ficou sem som e sem 
modem .
Pesquisei muito mas nao consegui encontrar a solucao .
Meu computador eh um Pentium III 500 mhz , com som 
ONBOARD CMI 8738 / C3DX PCI da C-Media ; e modem ONBOARD HSP56 Micromodem da 
PCtel .
Se for possivel instalar estes dispositivos no 
Linux, como seria feito isto ?
Desde ja agradeço .

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Perl warning in apt-get operations...

2001-08-15 Thread Rogelio E. Castillo Haro

Hi!
When i use apt-get...I've the next message:



perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
 LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = en.ISO8859-1
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standar locale (C).

This happens later I use red carpet to upgrade a lot of packages... :(
Where can I set this parameters?

TIA



Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Sam Varghese
On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 09:47:07PM -0400, Gilles Pelletier wrote:
 We're a small group mulling over the respective merits of Debian and
 Slackware for a newbie. Of course, since apt-get takes care of installing
 dependencies and upgrading the whole installed software, we were leaning
 towards Debian. The newbie, even though his concerns for security are
 limited, wouldn't have to care too much about it.

So far, so good.

 Only a tiny problem remains. Potato is not up to date and it's apparently
 difficult to upgrade software unless you get patches at specialised places
 ( http://kde.tdyc.com for the KDE 2.x serie, for instance. ) You then must
 hope the patch is well done.

if you want to teach new users, why do you have to
be bleeding edge?

 We though about installing Woody, but, as you people know, the boot
 disquettes don't boot yet. Potato must first be installed and an upgrade
 made to Woody. Newbies might not appreciate...
 As for Woody, once again, it's going to be out... when it's ready, which
 might as well mean in June 2002, one year after Slack was out.

that's the whole point of debian - install once and forget
about the triple R syndrome - reboot, reformat and reinstall.

 How the hell is Volkerding and his small pack managing to put out Slack 8
 with XFree86 4.1.0, kernel 2.4.5, KDE 2.1.2, GNOME 1.4, glibc 2.2.3,
 Mozilla, Galeon, Nautilus, ProFTPD, OpenSSH, OpenSSL, mod_ssl, mod_php...
 and all the usual utilities, hardly 3 months after Mandrake rushed out
 their broken down distro? Has anybody heard that Slackware isn't safe : ) ?

don't forget that slackware is a commercial distribution which
(according to volkerding himself) has always been profitable.
(indeed, patrick was at a loss to understand why windriver
had not taken up slackware but left it orphaned). debian developers
have to earn their bread elsewhere. more time, more development -
quite simple really, when that work is for your livelihood.

 Is apt-get really worth this huge delay? We do plan to teach the newbie
 some fundamentals.

apt-get is enough of a reason to choose debian. i went down
the slackware path for a year and i am not a tech type, just a
person who wants to use an o-s that is efficient. slackware on the
desktop is a nightmare. 

 BTW, in case you wouldn't know, even newbies like to be cutting edge...
 even more so than oldies I'd say : )

can you tell me how you upgrade slackware? how did you upgrade
from 7.1 to 8.0?

sam
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RE: gnome/mouseroller

2001-08-15 Thread Jeff Maxson
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Tony Bartholomaeus wrote:

 There is a commmand that starts Gnome, I think it's something creative like
 'gnome-start'. Try changing your .xinitrc to read -

 icewm 
 gnome-start

ahh...I remember.  It's gnome-session.  Thanks for the kick in the head.
Jostled the memory a bit, and that works.

now for the mouse roller and I am SET!

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Re: META QUESTION: how to read a bulk list (and stay happy :-)

2001-08-15 Thread Rich Puhek
dman wrote:
 
 On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 10:24:31PM -0500, Rich Puhek wrote:
 
 | Personally, I'm stuck with an NT box at work, so I end up using Netscape
 
 Not to fear -- mutt works great with cygwin (just patch attachment.c
 to use binary mode for opening files or else M$ will screw up the
 streams)!  I haven't tried fetchmail or procmail though (I ssh to the
 school's system like I'm doing now which is Solaris).
 
 -D
 

I suppose I could try that. Problem is, I'm really an elm guy for text
mail reader (not too surprising to see a :x at the bottom of my Windows
emails). Of course, now I switched to Maildir/ format, so I'm back to
pine.

--Rich


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Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Gilles Pelletier
At 19:18 14-08-01 -0700, you wrote:

Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com écrivait/wrote:

A Debian distro, when released, is stable.

Which stuff was I reading the other day, Red Hat's or SuSE's. It said
Don't trust our stuff, it's unstable as a swamp over hell! That's why
we're thinking Debian or Slack... but I thought Slack was relatively stable.

Debian/stable is aimed at production systems:  servers, embedded
systems, dedicated-use systems (e.g.:  public kiosk, POS terminal), and
some classes of desktops in which maintenance issues are to be
minimized.

I see. That's why Debian is not in a rush to produce boot diskettes. It's
not for people like us.

 We though about installing Woody, but, as you people know, the boot
 disquettes don't boot yet.  Potato must first be installed and an
 upgrade made to Woody. Newbies might not appreciate... =20

For a network install, this is recommended and relatively painless.  

Yes. Mister Collins was saying that just before: why start anew... mainly
when you don't even have a /home partition. Scary!

troll deleted

Remember this:
BEWARE OF TROLLS REQUESTING BOOT DISQUETTES! THEY'RE THE WORST!

Yes, I've noticed.  Usually from the blood on the floor.

Well, as you explained, Debian is not for newbies. Ergo, no blood on the
floor. It's really clean!

I must say I really appreciate the answers I receive here. They're really
enlightening.

Some time ago, Slack found that it was loosing its clientele. No beginners
were coming to Slack. So they cleaned their act without loosing their
identity. They did put out some sort of little script called pkgtool, but
mainly, they gave good install instructions and decided to stay up-to-date.
I believe people are coming back to Slack.

GP

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Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Gilles Pelletier
Sorry if this message ends outside the thread. I can't post directly to the
newsgroup and replying to any of the two messages I received for each post,
sends the answer back to the author. There must be some Debian style here
too...

GP

At 22:13 14-08-01 -0400, Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait/wrote:

 How the hell is Volkerding and his small pack managing to put out Slack 8
 with XFree86 4.1.0, kernel 2.4.5, KDE 2.1.2, GNOME 1.4, glibc 2.2.3,
 Mozilla, Galeon, Nautilus, ProFTPD, OpenSSH, OpenSSL, mod_ssl, mod_php...
 and all the usual utilities, hardly 3 months after Mandrake rushed out
 their broken down distro? Has anybody heard that Slackware isn't safe : ) ?

Does slackware have 5000 packages? 

No, unfortunatly. Though I must say there's one or two I might not need and
all debs and rpms can be installed on slack just the same.

Tell me, is this what's preventing the team from offering boot diskettes
for Woody nearly six months after kernel 2.4 is out?

Is it as well tested, and stable as a
Debian release? 

I'll ask on alt.os.linux.slackware

Does slackware support 10 architectures (like woody
will, and potato supported 6)? 

I'm afraid it doesn't. Then again, I might not need one or two. Tell me,
will all distro have to be rock steady before we get the boot diskettes?

Can you upgrade a previous slackware
distribution easily to the current system or do you hope and pray, or
just wipe your system and install fresh?

I must say I do not have enough experience to answer this question. What's
the problem with installing fresh, if you keep your configuration files?

You are comparing apples and oranges. 

Yes. It does seem so.

Just because other dists are
releasing bleeding edge, doesn't make them any better (let's not forget
RedHat 7 and it's pre-release glibc and canabalized gcc-2.96). 

I certainly didn't forget this one. I think we never should. But who's
taking about Red Hat or Mandrake?

We prefer
to release stable systems, rather than try to flash version numbers of
some high visibility software.

I don't care so much about numbers... though I do prefer when they're over
1. But Debian took 18 months to release Potato. If «just in time» for Woody
was in twenty years, would it still be OK?

GP

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RE: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Gilles Pelletier
At 12:16 15-08-01 +1000, you wrote:

I have used Slackware in the past and I will NEVER use it again.  It was
just so damn unreliable (windows spent more uptime than the slackware
system)

REALLY? You should post on alt.os.linux.slackware! They're una(slack)ware!
A friend of mine has a Slack server and doesn't complain. He doesn't run
EBay, though... Do you?

 and it became difficult to maintain... as for upgrading... to your
newbies... all I can say is I wish you the best of luck you will need
it, although they will benefit from the experience.

Though it must be said that they don't have to rely on patches. If anything
goes wrong with KDE 2.1, for instance, they can refer to people from KDE.

It really all depends  on how much time they have for maintenance and
'tweaking' the system.  The decision to go Debian here was purely a
commercial one which related to downtime.

I think I understand the problem you had. But, first put kids on a Slack
desktop, let them learn and watch the downtime of a server diminish to a
sliver.

GP

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Re: gnome/mouseroller

2001-08-15 Thread Rafael Sasaki
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 12:04:35AM -0400, Jeff Maxson wrote:
 
 now for the mouse roller and I am SET!
 
Hi,
  if the mouse roller is the wheel, I just put on se Section Pointer of
XF86Config file the line:
ZAxisMapping4 5
and it`s working fine.

HTH,
  Rafael Sasaki



Re: Debian as a training system.

2001-08-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 11:28:52PM -0400, Sean Morgan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:47:07 -0400

 I know I'm gonna piss everyone off, but Debian isn't appropriate for
 newbies who actually want to learn unix fundamentals.  Apt is a really
 great system and all, but it doesn't really fall into the unix
 fundamental catagory (yet ;). I also see a lot of people talking about
 the larger number of packages and ease distribution upgrades in Debian,
 the former is actually a detriment to someone who actually wants to learn
 how the OS works (hand installs are a learning experience) and the latter
 is not a consideration for those wet behind the ears (move to something
 civilized later).  

 Slackware pushes a lot less automation and forces you to actually
 learn to use command line utils, edit scripts and text files, and
 generally pick up more skills that will actually be valuable if your
 travels in unixland should actually take you outside of its hallowed
 halls (god forbid).  

I agree somewhat.  I fumbled a recent interview question (plug:  geek
for hire ;-) recently over what services are required to run a Samba
server.  NetBIOS name server, natch.  Damn Debian all to hell, but what
with the packaging system I didn't know, though I've tweaked Samba on
client and server side on a good dozen systems.  It just works.

That said, I think Debian is close enough to the Unix ideal,
particularly relative to any RPM-based system I've dealt with, that it
makes a good learning system.  With Debian, it's very possible to go
wading into config files and edit them to your heart's content (other
GNU/Linux distros are notorious for their DON'T EDIT THIS FILE
admonishments).  Slack's probably going to put you closer to the iron,
what I like about Debian is that you largely have a choice.  Let the
system handle it for you, largely transparently, and largely
functionally, or take matters into your own hands.

Another aspect of Debian helpful for the newbie-who-wants-to-learn is
that it's easy to get a working, minimal, base system, then craft
together a more complex system over time by adding packages.  It's sort
of like triptronic shifting:  you decide when to pull the lever, but the
system manages the throttle and the clutch for the cleanest, fasted,
smoothest possible shift (note:  I drive stick).  So there's a high
level of engagement with the process, but there's also a support net.

I'll note I got my own chops on Unix systems dating back to 1987 (well,
the late '70s if you want to be accurate), Red Hat, then Debian,
touching a whole lot of other stuff along the way.

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Re: Fwd: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #1132

2001-08-15 Thread Daniel Toffetti
 For once I am ashamed to be Australian..
 No, I will never be ashamed of being an Australian.

 I am however ashamed to be living in the same country (and the same
 state) as someone who is so rude and naive and abuses the rest of the
 world like a spoilt child who believes that he is the only one who
 matters, and cannot even be bothered to read the bottom of an email
 to learn how to unsubscribe.

Don't worry that much, Ian. If you are ashamed of being Australian, 
then I should commit suicide for being Argentinian, just take a look at 
the news, if some ever reach the newspaper out there. Each one is 
condemned by its own words, and no one else.

 Its people like this who give the world the impression that we
 (Australians) are still a bunch of convicts instead of intelligent
 residents of the 'Lucky Country'.

 On behalf of all the educated Australians, I pray that you do not
 judge us all by the occasional fool.   We are not all ignorant.

 Ian

Please, take it easy. Stress is bad for the health and in fact I 
believe that people who easily rush into flaming words earns very bad 
karma. Just keep working on your matters and send the trash to 
/dev/null.

BTW I must admit that, even though I don't like this list flooded with 
so much Off-Topic, sometimes I found it really funny... ::))

Daniel
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Re: META QUESTION: how to read a bulk list (and stay happy :-)

2001-08-15 Thread John Galt

Because It fits with my preferences more.  You see, contrary to some
people around here, I LIKE to recieve copies of listmail when I'm the
intended recipient.  The resent-from recipie puts the personal copy in my
inbox, where it recieves relatively immediate attention, and yet still
keeps the flow of the list folder intact.  Also the reason I top post:
almost all MUAs page through messages in their original order, so the
newest stuff goes on top and you don't have to page through all of the old
junk to find out what's important.

What a bargain: you asked for nothing, yet you got my whole two cents
worth :)

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Rich Puhek wrote:

John Galt wrote:

 .procmailrc recipie:

 :0:
 * ^Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 debian-user

 About 99.9995% effective.

 On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Gaelle T. Morin wrote:


Um, how about using: X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org
instead of the Resent-From? I believe that's what that header is
intended for. Of course, not every mailing list has that feature, but
for those that do, you're going to have better luck than with
Resent-From:, To:, CC:, and similar headers.

Personally, I'm stuck with an NT box at work, so I end up using Netscape
for email reading. It's a PITA, but better than anything else I've found
(Eudora bugs me for some reason, The Bat! costs money, and don't even
talk to me about Outlook). I parse all mailing lists (Some of which are
even more active than deb-user!) into seperate folders. Then, I can scan
through the folders quickly, either by date or by thread. Some things
are handy in curses-based environments, but a quick scroll bar in
Windows (or, X, I suppose) works pretty well for scanning mailing lists,
expecially once you get the feel for the list.


--Rich



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Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 12:13:51AM -0400, Gilles Pelletier wrote:
 
 Tell me, is this what's preventing the team from offering boot diskettes
 for Woody nearly six months after kernel 2.4 is out?
 

You are seriously ill informed, or you prefer to spread FUD. Boot disks
have been available for woody for quite some time. Checked...

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-{hppa,i386,ia64,m68k,powerpc,sparc}

...lately? The other architectures are about to have boot disks aswell.
We are freezing base very shortly, and this is the start of a release.
This isn't about releasing in 20 years or even 20 months, this is about
progressing now.

Ben

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Getting online with a cable modem

2001-08-15 Thread Ruth Sanford



I am trying to get online with a cable modem. My 
server is optimum online. My network card is 3Com 3c920. I am using Progeny 
Debian. Thanks in advance for any helpful experience or know how.

Ed Bodfish


Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 12:13:22AM -0400, Gilles Pelletier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 At 19:18 14-08-01 -0700, you wrote:
 
 Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com écrivait/wrote:

  Debian/stable is aimed at production systems:  servers, embedded
  systems, dedicated-use systems (e.g.:  public kiosk, POS terminal),
  and some classes of desktops in which maintenance issues are to be
  minimized.
 
 I see. That's why Debian is not in a rush to produce boot diskettes. It's
 not for people like us.

No.

Bootdisks aren't available yet because they're produced as one of the
later steps of the release process.  Bootdisks have to interact
properly with all the other portions of the release, as well as contain
the latest stable driver for hardware likely to be encountered during
install.

  We though about installing Woody, but, as you people know, the boot
  disquettes don't boot yet.  Potato must first be installed and an
  upgrade made to Woody. Newbies might not appreciate... =20
 
 For a network install, this is recommended and relatively painless.  
 
 Yes. Mister Collins was saying that just before: why start anew... mainly
 when you don't even have a /home partition. Scary!

I'm not sure I understand.  With Debian, it matters little what version
of the distro you're installing.  When you set your
/etc/apt/sources.list file, you're specifying where you're going.  It's
possible to skip through a full release in many cases (though you might
not want to go back to a 'bo' release).

Again:

  - Base install
  - Modify sources.list
  - Resume installation *at current release* -- your pick, stable,
testing, or unstable.

  Yes, I've noticed.  Usually from the blood on the floor.
 
 Well, as you explained, Debian is not for newbies. Ergo, no blood on
 the floor. It's really clean!

You misunderstand.

I wasn't referring to Debian, I was referring to the bleeding edge.

There's a reason it's called bleeding:  things break, and you get hurt.
I've been using Unix for 14 years, GNU/Linux for four, Debian for two.
I've (more or less) got the skills to recognize when something's going
wrong, and to clean up when it happens.

Sticking to stable, tried, true, and, it's true, boring, releases of
stuff is going to be much safer.  You'll reduce the excitement level
significantly.

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Question about the GPL

2001-08-15 Thread brandtd
I'm a GPL advocate, but I work for a company who doesn't feel quite the 
same way as me.
I recently edited WinVNC (yes I know it's windows, but I couldn't find a 
GPL mailing list).  This edited WinVNC was meant to be absolutely invisible to 
the user of the workstation.  There is no information that it ever used to be 
VNC or what it does (unless these elementary school teachers know a lot more 
about computers than what we think :)
Here's the question:  we are keeping this edited version of VNC completely 
within our local network.  Do we have to include or say, like a pop up, that it 
ever was VNC and/or GPL info?

Thanks,

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How to answer

2001-08-15 Thread Gilles Pelletier
I'm used to a web - news interface, but not to email - news. I can't post
directly to th enewsgroup. I suppose that's normal. I received two copies
of some posts, none of others. Answering to any any of the two copies I
received, sends the reply to sender, not to the newsgroup. I'm using Eudora.

How's this supposed to work?

GP

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Re: TCPQuota. possible bug?

2001-08-15 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On 14 Aug 2001 22:58:09 +0100, Nick Avenell wrote:
 I tried to install TCPQuota on my woody box (sacrifice) tonight, and
 couldn't. This is what happened:
 
 ---fragment
 
 What is the password for the mySQL admin user?
 
 Is the choosen configuration correct?
   Protocol:   ppp
   Local address:  dynamic
   Local nets: 10.0.0.0
   Free users:
   mySQL server:   localhost:3306
   mySQL admin user:   root
   mySQL admin passwd: ***
 
 Okay? (Y/n)y
 
 Now, you can edit the file /etc/tcpquota/tcpquota.cf
 to fine tune you configuration, but it will work as is...
 
 Creating the tcpquota mySQL database... dpkg: error processing
 tcpquota (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  tcpquota
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su
 Password:
 sacrifice:~# tcpquotad
 sacrifice:~# DBI-connect(tcpquota:localhost:3306) failed: Access
 denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: NO) at
 /usr/sbin/tcpquotad line 376
It appears that the script is not giving the correct option/password to
mysql because the log says Using password:  NO.  What does line 376 look
like?
--mike




RE: How to answer

2001-08-15 Thread Ian Perry
 From: Gilles Pelletier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:36 PM


 I'm used to a web - news interface, but not to email - news.
 I can't post
 directly to th enewsgroup. I suppose that's normal. I
 received two copies
 of some posts, none of others. Answering to any any of the
 two copies I
 received, sends the reply to sender, not to the newsgroup.
 I'm using Eudora.

 How's this supposed to work?


The way I understand it is...

You get a copy from every post which hits the list.

You will get two posts if a message (like this one) is sent to the list and
copied to you as well... in effect a reply to all.

I actually prefer it this way as one ends up in my Debian Box, and the other
ends up with my personal mail... others may not.

Ian







Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Gilles Pelletier
At 00:29 15-08-01 -0400, you wrote:
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 12:13:51AM -0400, Gilles Pelletier wrote:
 
 Tell me, is this what's preventing the team from offering boot diskettes
 for Woody nearly six months after kernel 2.4 is out?
 

You are seriously ill informed, or you prefer to spread FUD. Boot disks
have been available for woody for quite some time. Checked...

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-{hppa,i386,ia64,m68k,pow
erpc,sparc}

...lately? The other architectures are about to have boot disks aswell.
We are freezing base very shortly, and this is the start of a release.
This isn't about releasing in 20 years or even 20 months, this is about
progressing now.

That's what I said to the nut in our group who's making the tests when he
pretended some basedebs.tgz file was missing. I then made a search on
Google and it seems that's it. The boot diskettes for i386 don't install
the base system.

Regards!

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Re: Unresolved Symbol: usb... but i deactivated it when making 'make menuconfig'

2001-08-15 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On 15 Aug 2001 00:12:50 +0200, Jörn Dreyer wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 this is my first post on a mailing list ... and as you might have guessed 
 im a newbie.
 ok this is my problem:
 
 i installed linux on an old ibm ps/2 (diskette version). works fine. (read 
 all the mca stuff availiable and so on...)
 i managed to set up a nullmodem connection by using a nullmodem modem 
 driver for windows (the direct cable connection somehow didnt work :-(), 
 logged in with leechFTP and saved some other packages on the linux machine 
 (kernel  and everything needed to recompile it).
 
 i am running kernel 2.2.19pre17. after make menuconfig i do make deb, make 
 clean, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install. no errors till now...
 after copying the kernel to /boot/placemykernelnamehere and installing it 
 with 'lilo' and 'lilo -q' i reboot: the kernel boots fine till i get lots 
 and lots of unresolved symbol errors:
 they start with misc and usb... now the funny thing is that i deactivated 
 usb in menuconfig...
 
 i also made a mrproper before make menuconf dep clean bzImage.
 
 please i dont need usb in any way  are some other kernel things 
 dependent on it???
 
 how can i get rid of that ... maybe delete all the modules i have in 
 /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17 
 
 argh
 
 btw my kernel runs fine ... i didnt run into any crashes / hangs till now...

Sounds like you installed one kernel over another of the same version.
You can check your /etc/modules file for modules that may be being
autoloaded when you boot and comment ones that you don't need out.  Also
man and run depmod.  If that doesn't clear it up please include
/etc/modules and /etc/modules.conf in your reply.

--mike





Re: syslog reports weird routing problems?

2001-08-15 Thread john smith



Mike,

so...did you find a solution?



On 14 Aug 2001 05:51:16 +, john smith wrote:
 Something's weird..whenever I log into a console and connect to the 
internet
 I get this: (from syslog and messages too) continuously while I am 
connected

 to the internet
 LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=36242 PROTO=2
 Aug 13 22:52:28 wats kernel: IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=209.247.5.159
 DST=224.0.0.1
snip
 my /etc/network/interfaces is:

 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback
 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.0.1
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 # up route add default gw 192.168.0.1
 # down route del default gw 192.168.0.1

 I think the problem is in the gateway because if I uncomment those I 
don't

 get those weird errors anymore but then I can no longer ping outside my
 network (i.e. ping www.amd.com). I am using a dial-up line so I don't 
have a

 default gateway or should I?

pppd should set a default gateway for you for the rest of the internet.

It looks to me that when you uncomment those lines in
/etc/network/interfaces you had set your machine to route to itself for
the whole internet ... which probably had nowhere to go hence no pings
etc from the internet.

Check your routing when your ppp link is up.  That may give some clue.

I'm confused why IGMP packets are getting logged here from routing.  My
firewall gets these all the time, I made a a special rule because I got
tired of them being logged.  Same destination subnet too 224.0.0.1, but
mine are coming from 192.168.100.1.

--mike




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Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 12:43:48AM -0400, Gilles Pelletier wrote:
 At 00:29 15-08-01 -0400, you wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 12:13:51AM -0400, Gilles Pelletier wrote:
  
  Tell me, is this what's preventing the team from offering boot diskettes
  for Woody nearly six months after kernel 2.4 is out?
  
 
 You are seriously ill informed, or you prefer to spread FUD. Boot disks
 have been available for woody for quite some time. Checked...
 
 ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-{hppa,i386,ia64,m68k,pow
 erpc,sparc}
 
 ...lately? The other architectures are about to have boot disks aswell.
 We are freezing base very shortly, and this is the start of a release.
 This isn't about releasing in 20 years or even 20 months, this is about
 progressing now.
 
 That's what I said to the nut in our group who's making the tests when he
 pretended some basedebs.tgz file was missing. I then made a search on
 Google and it seems that's it. The boot diskettes for i386 don't boot.

There are no base.tgz's for woody boot floppies. Some simple checks in
the boot-floppies docs could have told them that. The reason is we don't
need them anymore. The system is installed completely from network or
CD, or from a file called basedebs.deb (or something similar). The disks
do boot. Think about it, why would we upload a set of boot disks that
don't boot?

Ben

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Re: Snort

2001-08-15 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On 15 Aug 2001 13:06:09 +1000, Craig W wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Real Newbie to Debian, wondering if anyone could help me to correct an issue
 I am having with installing Snort.
 
 apt-get install snort
 
 Setting up snort (1.5.1-11) ...
 Can't call method template on an undefined value at
 /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Question.pm line 251, GEN0 chunk 1.
 dpkg: error processing snort (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  snort
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Sounds like a perl problem.  What version of debian are you running and
what version of perl are you running?



Re: when procmailrc is wacky, what happens to the mail?

2001-08-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 11:40:35PM -0400, Bill Lovett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 10:44:53PM -0400, dman wrote:
 
  | .forward file goes a little something like this:
  | 
  | |IFS=''  exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #username
  
 
 FWIW, that line comes courtesy of one Timo Salmi, at:
 http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/proctips.html#start
 
 It works, but is somehow less-than-optimal according to the procmail man page:
 
Procmail should be invoked automatically over the .forward
file mechanism as soon as  mail  arrives.
 
 But perhaps that is best left for another thread.
   
  Do you have DEFAULT set in your .procmailrc?
 
 I do indeed, and The plot thickens:
 
 MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
 DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/INBOX
 
 It must be something funky with my regexes.

Do you have logging enabled?  I won't pretend to understand everything
procmail dumps to logs, but it certainly helps to have an audit trail.
There's also a verbose option.

You can also set a DebugBox to which all mail is dumped.  If you run
this early, it's also a good place to find things you'd otherwise
trashed ;-)

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Re: syslog reports weird routing problems?

2001-08-15 Thread john smith

I see...so what is the problem and how do I fix it?


A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 Something's weird..whenever I log into a console and connect to the 
internet
 I get this: (from syslog and messages too) continuously while I am 
connected

 to the internet


 LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=36242 PROTO=2
 Aug 13 22:52:28 wats kernel: IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=209.247.5.159
 DST=224.0.0.1

It's not quite a routing problem - the host at 209.247.5.159 is sending
multicast packets.


Phil


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Re: syslog reports weird routing problems?

2001-08-15 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On 15 Aug 2001 04:46:37 +, john smith wrote:
 
 
 Mike,
 
 so...did you find a solution?

I just added a ipchains firewall rule to block igmp (protocol 2 packets)
going to 224.0.0.1 from anywhere and not log. ie:

ipchains -I input -p igmp -d 224.0.0.1

No more annoying packet logs.  I'm more concerned that you find your
solution, are you sure that the messages are from the route or are they
in fact from ipchains.  Or are you running iptables?  

--mike
 
 
 On 14 Aug 2001 05:51:16 +, john smith wrote:
   Something's weird..whenever I log into a console and connect to the 
 internet
   I get this: (from syslog and messages too) continuously while I am 
 connected
   to the internet
   LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=36242 PROTO=2
   Aug 13 22:52:28 wats kernel: IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=209.247.5.159
   DST=224.0.0.1
 snip
   my /etc/network/interfaces is:
  
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
   auto eth0
   iface eth0 inet static
   address 192.168.0.1
   netmask 255.255.255.0
   # up route add default gw 192.168.0.1
   # down route del default gw 192.168.0.1
  
   I think the problem is in the gateway because if I uncomment those I 
 don't
   get those weird errors anymore but then I can no longer ping outside my
   network (i.e. ping www.amd.com). I am using a dial-up line so I don't 
 have a
   default gateway or should I?
 
 pppd should set a default gateway for you for the rest of the internet.
 
 It looks to me that when you uncomment those lines in
 /etc/network/interfaces you had set your machine to route to itself for
 the whole internet ... which probably had nowhere to go hence no pings
 etc from the internet.
 
 Check your routing when your ppp link is up.  That may give some clue.
 
 I'm confused why IGMP packets are getting logged here from routing.  My
 firewall gets these all the time, I made a a special rule because I got
 tired of them being logged.  Same destination subnet too 224.0.0.1, but
 mine are coming from 192.168.100.1.
 
 --mike




Re: xwindows crash - bad graphics card?

2001-08-15 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On 14 Aug 2001 23:48:38 -0400, Christopher Mosley wrote:
 
 
 Hello,
 xwindows is crashing,it just occured. I am getting message
 something like  xf86OpenConsole: no such file  /dev/tty4
 Is it possible the graphics mode on my fairly old card
 died - leaving text  mode intact.  Cannot run Xf86Setup 
 either.

Did you upgrade to 2.4 kernels with devfs?  Perhaps your /etc/inittab
file shows something about your virtual terminals that may be usefull.

--mike



Re: reiser?

2001-08-15 Thread Robert L. Harris


Bingo.  Thanks.  I thought apt-get was using /var/lib/dpkg/available
or they were in sync.

Thanks,
  Robert

Thus spake Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 11:20:48AM -0600, Robert L. Harris wrote:
  Ok, this is getting odd then:
  
  vampire:/var/lib/dpkg 
  root:{1}: grep -i reiser available
 [...]
  No other mention of reiser in the available packages.  When I do the
  apt-get install reiserfsprogs though it does install clean.  Why isn't
  the package named in the available list?
 
 Because 'apt-get update' doesn't update dpkg's available file: they
 operate at different levels. Use 'dselect update' instead, which, if
 configured to use the apt access method (as it is by default these days)
 will run 'apt-get update' and then merge the results into
 /var/lib/dpkg/available.
 
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Re: Getting online with a cable modem

2001-08-15 Thread Cameron Matheson
On 14 Aug 2001 00:27:47 -0700, Ruth Sanford wrote:
 I am trying to get online with a cable modem. My server is optimum online. My 
 network card is 3Com 3c920. I am using Progeny Debian. Thanks in advance for 
 any helpful experience or know how.
 
 Ed Bodfish

Hey,

their's a cable-modem HOWTO at linuxdoc.org that you might find very
enlightening.

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Re: syslog reports weird routing problems?

2001-08-15 Thread john smith

I am not sure where they come from and I am using iptables...




On 15 Aug 2001 04:46:37 +, john smith wrote:


 Mike,

 so...did you find a solution?

I just added a ipchains firewall rule to block igmp (protocol 2 packets)
going to 224.0.0.1 from anywhere and not log. ie:

ipchains -I input -p igmp -d 224.0.0.1

No more annoying packet logs.  I'm more concerned that you find your
solution, are you sure that the messages are from the route or are they
in fact from ipchains.  Or are you running iptables?

--mike


 On 14 Aug 2001 05:51:16 +, john smith wrote:
   Something's weird..whenever I log into a console and connect to the
 internet
   I get this: (from syslog and messages too) continuously while I am
 connected
   to the internet
   LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=36242 PROTO=2
   Aug 13 22:52:28 wats kernel: IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=209.247.5.159
   DST=224.0.0.1
 snip
   my /etc/network/interfaces is:
  
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
   auto eth0
   iface eth0 inet static
   address 192.168.0.1
   netmask 255.255.255.0
   # up route add default gw 192.168.0.1
   # down route del default gw 192.168.0.1
  
   I think the problem is in the gateway because if I uncomment those I
 don't
   get those weird errors anymore but then I can no longer ping outside 
my
   network (i.e. ping www.amd.com). I am using a dial-up line so I 
don't

 have a
   default gateway or should I?
 
 pppd should set a default gateway for you for the rest of the internet.
 
 It looks to me that when you uncomment those lines in
 /etc/network/interfaces you had set your machine to route to itself for
 the whole internet ... which probably had nowhere to go hence no pings
 etc from the internet.
 
 Check your routing when your ppp link is up.  That may give some clue.
 
 I'm confused why IGMP packets are getting logged here from routing.  My
 firewall gets these all the time, I made a a special rule because I got
 tired of them being logged.  Same destination subnet too 224.0.0.1, but
 mine are coming from 192.168.100.1.
 
 --mike





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Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Gilles Pelletier
At 00:49 15-08-01 -0400, Ben Collins wrote:

There are no base.tgz's for woody boot floppies. Some simple checks in
the boot-floppies docs could have told them that. The reason is we don't
need them anymore. The system is installed completely from network or
CD, or from a file called basedebs.deb (or something similar). The disks
do boot. Think about it, why would we upload a set of boot disks that
don't boot?

The guys who made the tests will receive copy of this message. Some have
run Debian for quite a while and have stumbled on the installation of
Woody. I'll be back to you, tomorrow night most probably. We'll try to
figure out what went wrong.

Regards!

Gilles Pelletier

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kernel headers for 2.219pre17

2001-08-15 Thread Shawn Lamson
Hello everyone - I am new to Debian - used to use
Caldera OL 2.3 but I am not super proficient in Linux.
I am trying to install ALSA and it wants to use the
kernel headers from 2.2.19pre17... I have tried:
a)kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci
b)kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact
c)kernel-headers-2.2.19
and have not had any luck... at best everything makes
and installs for alsa and as soon as i insmod
snd-card- or modprobe it ... it isnt there. 
Everything gets installed in
/lib/modules/2.2.19... because it is getting its
install dir path from the headers... Have you guys
heard of this?  I cant find a similar situation on the
alsa pages...  I find the same problem of people
looking for the vanilla 2.2.19pre17 kernel headers
but no solutions posted...
Should I try to install the 2.2.19 kernel?  If it is
easier all around (not just with alsa) to get support
for kernel 2.2.19 I will try to make that (never
played with kernel before). TIA
Shawn Lamson

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Re: How to answer

2001-08-15 Thread Paul Scott

Ian Perry wrote:


From: Gilles Pelletier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:36 PM




I'm used to a web - news interface, but not to email - news.
I can't post
directly to th enewsgroup. I suppose that's normal. I
received two copies
of some posts, none of others. Answering to any any of the
two copies I
received, sends the reply to sender, not to the newsgroup.
I'm using Eudora.

How's this supposed to work?



Using Mozilla I hit Reply then I change the To: field to 
debian-user@lists.debian.org
and go about editing the message.  (Occaasionially I forget and the 
reply goes to the original poster and not to the group).


Paul Scott



off-topic - creative thinking about worms

2001-08-15 Thread Sam Varghese
this bit from an article on pbs.org caught my
attention.

a chap responding to cringely's piece about the death of
tcp/ip and pointed out that the creator(s) of code red
hadn't really been very creative. he then went on to suggest
that someone could write a worm that quietly changed one
random 2 to 8 in every excel spreadsheet on a pc... and then
propagated itself quietly. 

when would we hear about it? when some financial giant 
went bankrupt...

sobering thought, indeed.

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Re: How to answer

2001-08-15 Thread Rich Rudnick
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:36:21 Gilles Pelletier wrote:
 I'm used to a web - news interface, but not to email - news. I can't
 post
 directly to th enewsgroup. I suppose that's normal. I received two
 copies
 of some posts, none of others. Answering to any any of the two copies I
 received, sends the reply to sender, not to the newsgroup. I'm using
 Eudora.
 
 How's this supposed to work?
 

If I follow you correctly, you're reading the lists off usenet, right?
Probably subscribing to the list directly for a while would make it
easier.

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/



d-link dfe-550tx driver?

2001-08-15 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

Greetz,

Does anyone know what driver would support this nic for the 2.2.x kernels?

tia

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Re: xwindows crash - bad graphics card? (fwd)

2001-08-15 Thread Christopher Mosley





On 15 Aug 2001, Michael Heldebrant wrote:

 On 14 Aug 2001 23:48:38 -0400, Christopher Mosley wrote:
  
  
  Hello,
  xwindows is crashing,it just occured. I am getting message
  something like  xf86OpenConsole: no such file  /dev/tty4
  Is it possible the graphics mode on my fairly old card
  died - leaving text  mode intact.  Cannot run Xf86Setup 
  either.
 
 Did you upgrade to 2.4 kernels with devfs?  Perhaps your /etc/inittab
 file shows something about your virtual terminals that may be usefull.
No, i'm using an older kernel. Is kernel 2.4 compatible with potato
debian 2.2 cd set?


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Re: META QUESTION: how to read a bulk list (and stay happy :-)

2001-08-15 Thread Sebastiaan
High,

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Gaelle T. Morin wrote:

 Well,
 I broke my own promise to be a lurker of this list.
 However, I am just wondering on how do others read this mega list.
 Is that: d(elete), d, d, and CR once in awhile?

Yes. The list has grown in its capacity the last months (300 msg a day?),
so it takes a lot of time to read everything. Usually I look at the
subject, does it look like something I could answer, or for which I am
curious, I read it. Then I follow the thread a while. This is one of the
reasons, if not the most important reason, that one should always use a
good subject.


This changes when I am behind a computer, twisting on my chair. Then I
read almost every mail that comes in, but that is not too much. The list
is very quiet when it is day here in Europe. 

Greetz,
Sebastiaan




Re: Fwd: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #1132

2001-08-15 Thread John Foster
Ian.

I know exactly how you feel. We wonder how do we show the rest of the world that
this jerk is so far from what 99.99% of us is like. Still, I'm confident that
most of the people on this list realise that we're not all like that.

Still, I would like to see that jerk go down. How dare he try to make us look
that bad? That's what gets to me the most, that he doesnt have the decency to
consider that he's an example of everything that is against our culture.

He probably votes for Pauline Hanson

John P. Foster

Australian, and damn proud of it.

Ian Perry wrote:

 For once I am ashamed to be Australian..
 No, I will never be ashamed of being an Australian.

 I am however ashamed to be living in the same country (and the same state)
 as someone who is so rude and naive and abuses the rest of the world like a
 spoilt child who believes that he is the only one who matters, and cannot
 even be bothered to read the bottom of an email to learn how to unsubscribe.

 Its people like this who give the world the impression that we (Australians)
 are still a bunch of convicts instead of intelligent residents of the 'Lucky
 Country'.

 On behalf of all the educated Australians, I pray that you do not judge us
 all by the occasional fool.   We are not all ignorant.

 Ian

  -Original Message-
  From: John Galt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:07 AM
  To: Michael Hambe
  Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org;
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #1132
 
 
 
 
  Bring it on, masochist.  I've CC'd your upstream just so
  everyone's on the
  same page.  You subscribed to the list, you sent a
  confirmation email, now
  you threaten because it sends you stuff.  WHAT DID YOU
  EXPECT?!  I beg of
  optushome to redirect all mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to /dev/null
  and save us all problems.
 
  On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Michael Hambe wrote:
 
  Me again,
  
  I use manners the first time I ask.
  
  I use manners the second time I ask.
  
  Not the third,
  
  thanks
  
  
  
  
  
  MBOX-Line: From
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  Aug 14 09:05:45 2001
  Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:40:08 +0530
  From: harsha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Michael Hambe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #1132
  Reply-To: harsha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  hi,
  
  On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 09:49:00PM +1000, Michael Hambe wrote:
REMOVE ME FROM YOUR LIST.
  
STOP SENDING ME SHIT!
  
  go to http://lists.debian.org and you get details as how to
  unsubscribe.
  by the way looks like nobody gave you some lessons in manners. ask a
  preschooler for help.
  
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Re: Getting online with a cable modem

2001-08-15 Thread Sebastiaan
High,

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Ruth Sanford wrote: 

 I am trying to get online with a cable modem. My server is optimum
 online. My network card is 3Com 3c920. I am using Progeny Debian. Thanks
 in advance for any helpful experience or know how. 
 
What kind of cable modem is it? What information did they give you for
connection?

My cable modem works this way. It is a Com21:
- insmod 3c59x
- ifconfig eth0 your ip netmask your netmask up
- route add default gateway your gateway

Replace the ... with the information for your ISP.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan




Re: Question about the GPL

2001-08-15 Thread Geoffrey Romer

 I'm a GPL advocate, but I work for a company who doesn't feel quite the 
 same way as me.
 I recently edited WinVNC (yes I know it's windows, but I couldn't find a 
 GPL mailing list).  This edited WinVNC was meant to be absolutely invisible 
 to the user of the workstation.  There is no information that it ever used to 
 be VNC or what it does (unless these elementary school teachers know a lot 
 more about computers than what we think :)
 Here's the question:  we are keeping this edited version of VNC 
 completely within our local network.  Do we have to include or say, like a 
 pop up, that it ever was VNC and/or GPL info?

To be certain, you'd really have to read through the text of the GPL
as distributed with VNC. As a general rule, you should always read the
license as it comes with the software, just in case there are any
special provisos (e.g. a clause requiring credit). It should be pretty
clear on these points. My guess is that you are probably safe,
especially since you are not redistributing the software.

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Re: xwindows crash - bad graphics card? (fwd)

2001-08-15 Thread Matthias Richter
Christopher Mosley wrote on Wed Aug 15, 2001 at 02:14:07AM:
 On 15 Aug 2001, Michael Heldebrant wrote:
  Did you upgrade to 2.4 kernels with devfs?  Perhaps your /etc/inittab
  file shows something about your virtual terminals that may be usefull.
 No, i'm using an older kernel. Is kernel 2.4 compatible with potato
 debian 2.2 cd set?

Kernel 2.4 cannot be used on potato *as out of the box*, you need to
upgrade certain packages (provided by Adrian Bunk):
URL:http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html

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OT -- Microsoft's Smart Tags

2001-08-15 Thread will trillich
short version:

webmasters, take note and add
   meta name=MSSmartTagsPreventParsing content=TRUE
to every page you own...

lnog version:

more darkness from redmond -- this, from an 'addme.com'
newsletter i subscribe to (i'm not affiliated in any way; in
fact i seldom find time to read them at all, but this one caught
my eye). if nothing else, the author is blatantly one of us at
least in spirit.

irrelevant portions snipped--


August 14th, 2001   *** ISSUE #216 ***


  Real Life Internet Evil: 
  Microsoft's Smart Tags
 =

By Richard Lowe, Jr.

You've worked hard on your web pages. If you are anything like
me, you've spent countless hours writing content, finding or
creating graphics, cursing at tables, juggling lists and learning
HTML and possibly even CSS, Java, DHTML and countless other
things.

My web site is uniquely mine. It is a product of my imagination,
my sweat, my brain and my frustration. I have spent many
sleepless nights and countless long days adding just the perfect
content to communicate exactly what I wanted to say.

Now Microsoft has come along with a brilliant idea. They want
to piggyback their own selected content on top of that work. The
idea is to have their products (such as Internet Explorer and the
Office suite) scan web pages and documents for keywords and
phrases known to the Microsoft. Any of these that are found would
be underlined with a special purple squiggle to show that they
are smart tags.

Anyone viewing the page could then click on the smart tag and be
transported to a Microsoft web site for more information. For
example, you could write a web page about the Grand Canyon, and
the phrase Grand Canyon could be underlined, allowing your
visitors to check out the Expedia.Com page about how to book
travel to the area.

Why does Microsoft want to do this? It's really very simple - to
make an incredible amount of money. Look at it this way,
Microsoft suddenly would have at their disposal every single
document viewed with a new Microsoft product as a potential
advertisement. Wow. That's power. No, this is an understatement
of incredible magnitude. This is more than power - this is the
harnessing of everyone's creative energy into a huge global
advertising tool. It totally staggers the imagination.

You could be looking at a newspaper site, reading an article
about train travel, and click on numerous links to Microsoft
sites (and presumably third party sites which paid Microsoft for
the privilege) selling train related products and services. If
you read a classified ad on that same newspaper site selling an
automobile, the word Cadillac could be underlined with a smart
tag linking to a Cadillac dealer.

Content (the tags) are added dynamically to web pages by the
browser without the permission of the person who created the
pages (the webmaster or author). While strictly speaking this
might not violate copyright laws (but it might be considered
vandalism), it sure is rude. In fact, most people would consider
it highly unethical.

As an example, suppose you bought a book through a book club.
Before it was shipped to you, someone opened the book and
examined every single page, adding comments here and there about
how you could purchase this or get more information about that.
You would be very annoyed if you were the author, you'd probably
be livid if you were the publisher of the book, and you'd almost
certainly return it if you were the customer.

Carefully crafted web pages whose look and feel has been lovingly
built for countless hours by dedicated designers, authors,
artists and webmasters would be randomly covered with trash by a
company intent on siphoning away visitors to their own sites and
pages.

And what about the problem of inappropriate content? Suppose you
had a site which was against animal cruelty, yet Smart Tags went
ahead and added to your pages links to other sites which sold
muzzles for horses? You wouldn't like that very much, would you?

Another problem is that Smart Tags are opt-out. This means the
tags are inserted unless you (the webmaster or the user) indicate
that you do not want them. Opt-Out is the preferred method of
removal for many advertisers because they understand that most
people will not bother to remove themselves from the list. Opt-in
is the preferred method of most consumers because then they
receive only what they have requested.

Webmasters can keep smart tags from working on their site by
including a special opt-out metatag in the header of each and
every page. I highly recommend that all webmasters include this
tag to prevent smart tags from operating.

   meta name=MSSmartTagsPreventParsing content=TRUE

As soon as Smart Tags appeared in a beta release of Windows XP,
the furor began. It was awesome to see. 

Re: Mutt: folder-hook + set index_format= (solved)

2001-08-15 Thread Chris Halls
On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 09:10:36PM +0100, Sean Quinlan wrote:
  Are there special rules for the folder-hook line, or should I be able to
  do this?  I'm using mutt 1.3.20-1 (Woody/Sid)
 
 I think you need to quote the set index_format=blah part if it already has
 quotes in it, or at least this worked fine on my mutt 1.3.20.  I tried
 your line as such:
 
 folder-hook mbox 'set index_format=%4C %Z %s'
 
 and it worked fine, give it a go and see :)

Yes!  I had tried different quote characters but hadn't tried using another
set.  Thanks a lot for your help,

Chris Halls



Re: exploring debian's users and groups

2001-08-15 Thread will trillich
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 01:31:38PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 
 Wichert Akkerman wrote:
  Amusingly enough Jochen Voss made a draft of such a document recently
  that is still sitting in my mailbox. I'll flesh it out and add it to
  base-passwd later today.
 
 Looking forward to seeing it. Here is what I've come up with merging
 what people had to say in this thread. There are still quite a few
 HELP's, most notably nobody seems to have a clue what bin and sys are
 for.

boy this smells an awful lot like a good newbiedoc intro,
doesn't it? hmm?

right?

(nice job so far -- these specific user/group concepts are
something i've wondered about, myself, for quite some time!)

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Re: OT -- Microsoft's Smart Tags

2001-08-15 Thread Paul Scott

will trillich wrote:


short version:

webmasters, take note and add
   meta name=MSSmartTagsPreventParsing content=TRUE
to every page you own...

lnog version:

more darkness from redmond -- this, from an 'addme.com'
newsletter i subscribe to (i'm not affiliated in any way; in
fact i seldom find time to read them at all, but this one caught
my eye). if nothing else, the author is blatantly one of us at
least in spirit.

irrelevant portions snipped--



According to this M$ has scrapped (postponed?) the idea for the time being:


http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6399150.html?tag=lh


Paul Scott




problems with configuring X

2001-08-15 Thread fouad HENNI
My video card is a
'Trident Blade 3d PCI/AGP (ICP)'
When I installed X under Debian 2.2 r0 I choose in the
database the card number '688', that is:
'Trident Blade3D (generic)' and the 'svga' server.
But when I start X with
server 'svga'
driver 'Trident Blade 3D (generic)'
the computer blocs and I have no way to stop it.
When I specify (in the XF86Config):
server 'svga'
driver 'Generic VGA'
X starts, but the only graphic mode that I had is the
320x200 with a very big font.
So what can I do to repair all that ?

Thank you.

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Re: Gigabyte GA-7DZ

2001-08-15 Thread Keith O'Connell
Sam, 

 you can try es1370 or es1371. i have used either of
 these with creative clones.

Thank you - This was what I wanted to know

Keith

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Re: Perl 5.6

2001-08-15 Thread will trillich
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 12:31:23PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 12:11:13PM -0400, Jason Price wrote:
  I am currently running a stable distribution of debian, but want to get 
  Perl 5.6 installed.  I noticed it is not in the stable distribution.  
  What would be the safest/best/easiest way to get it installed?  I'm a 
  pretty new linux user, so be gentle.  :)
 
 Compile it up yourself, or get a precompiled binary, and install it
 manually (not with dpkg) in /usr/local. That way, you can have your own
 scripts use Perl 5.6 and Debian packages use Perl 5.005. Don't try to
 crowbar Perl 5.6 into Debian stable directly, as that way lies confusion
 and probable disaster - a lot of stuff depends on perl.
 
 You can use the stow package to handle the installation in /usr/local if
 you want to make sure it uninstalls cleanly, although using stow on perl
 correctly might be challenging.

i nominate, for understatement of the month, might be
challenging from colin watson. any seconds?

:)

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Re: OT -- Microsoft's Smart Tags

2001-08-15 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 02:06:46AM -0500, will trillich wrote:
 short version:
 
 webmasters, take note and add
meta name=MSSmartTagsPreventParsing content=TRUE
 to every page you own...

No. Because...

[snip]
 As soon as Smart Tags appeared in a beta release of Windows XP,
 the furor began. It was awesome to see. Microsoft was hit from
 all sides by just about everyone, because their intentions were
 so transparent and so blatantly monopolistic that even the most
 conservative could see what they were up to. The dangers caused a
 flood of protests to be received by the giant company, so many
 that Microsoft was forced to remove the feature from their
 products.
 
 As a result of smart tags in beta versions of Windows XP and IE,
 we received lots of feedback, and have realized that there is a
 need to better balance the user experience with the legitimate
 concerns of content providers and web sites, Microsoft said in a
 statement on June 28th, 2001.
 
 Keep an eye on Microsoft, however, because they also added,
 Microsoft remains committed to this type of technology, and will
 work closely with content providers and partners in the industry
 in the coming months to further refine how it can be used.
 
 
 Richard Lowe Jr. is the webmaster of Internet Tips And
 Secrets at http://www.internet-tips.net - Visit our website any
 time to read over 1,000 complete FREE articles about how to
 improve your internet profits, enjoyment and knowledge.
 

Addind the meta tags now would only legitimize this smart tag business.
Wait for them to screw with your content... then charge them a royalty.

-- 
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Re: when procmailrc is wacky, what happens to the mail?

2001-08-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 10:21:15PM -0400, Bill Lovett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 A couple times now I've edited my .procmailrc file, unwittingly
 screwed something up, and only discovered my mistake after a day or
 two goes by with not a peep out of otherwise high traffic lists. 

Please set your linewrap to 72.

 But what happens to a message when procmail gets confused by a broken
 recipe? Nothing shows up in in /var/spool/mail. And my .forward file
 goes a little something like this:
 
 |IFS=''  exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #username
 
 The only explanation I can think of is that procmail is hiding the
 messages in the same place the clothes dryer likes to hide some of my
 socks from time to time  ;)

I just ran through a somewhat similar experience.

In my case, a global rule was dumping all mail that had reached a
certain point in filtering to a single mailbox.  I had to go into it and
clean things out.  You might check your folders for one that's swollen
noticeably recently.

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Re: Question about the GPL

2001-08-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 09:34:18PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 I'm a GPL advocate, but I work for a company who doesn't feel quite
 the same way as me.
 
 I recently edited WinVNC (yes I know it's windows, but I couldn't
 find a GPL mailing list).  This edited WinVNC was meant to be absolutely
 invisible to the user of the workstation.  There is no information that
 it ever used to be VNC or what it does (unless these elementary school
 teachers know a lot more about computers than what we think :)
 
 Here's the question:  we are keeping this edited version of VNC
 completely within our local network.  Do we have to include or say, like
 a pop up, that it ever was VNC and/or GPL info?

Section 2(c) of the GPL deals with modified applications and notice
requirements for interactive programs.  Note:


2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion
of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and
distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1
above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:

...

c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively
when run, you must cause it, when started running for such
interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an
announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a
notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you
provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program
under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy
of this License.  (Exception: if the Program itself is
interactive but does not normally print such an announcement,
your work based on the Program is not required to print an
announcement.)

My reading:  the notice requirement is predicated on modifying AND
distributing the modifications.  The (c) requirement isn't required
under the GPL for personal, or internal (within the company) use.

However, as a caution in the event of distribution, I'd add the
interactive note referenced in (c) as a matter of course.

IANAL, this is not legal advice.

If you (or anyone else) has questions regarding the GPL or other free
software licenses, news:gnu.misc.discuss, and the FSB (Free Software
Business:  http://www.cyrnwr.com/fsb/) and license-discuss
(http://www.opensource.org/) mailing lists are quite useful resources.

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Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

2001-08-15 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h
Gilles Pelletier wrote on Tue Aug 14, 2001 um 09:47:07PM:

 How the hell is Volkerding and his small pack managing to put out Slack 8
 with XFree86 4.1.0, kernel 2.4.5, KDE 2.1.2, GNOME 1.4, glibc 2.2.3,
 Mozilla, Galeon, Nautilus, ProFTPD, OpenSSH, OpenSSL, mod_ssl, mod_php...

Du you know the meaning of the word STABLE? Potato is a stable
collection of software, and most pieces you mentioned are not! Why? Look
in their Changelogs in Sid, look in bug reports, this software may be
good enough for ex-windows^w^w home-users, but not for a critical
production system.

 and all the usual utilities, hardly 3 months after Mandrake rushed out
 their broken down distro? Has anybody heard that Slackware isn't safe : ) ?

Mandrake and many other distribution is for version junkies, got if you
are one.

 BTW, in case you wouldn't know, even newbies like to be cutting edge...
 even more so than oldies I'd say : )

Blah. Either they do know what they need, or they should take Mandrake
or similar. Not SuSE, the SuSE company claim this product to be
profesional but it's of the same kind as
RedHat/Caldera/other-crapy-distribution.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: off-topic - creative thinking about worms

2001-08-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 03:32:40PM +1000, Sam Varghese ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 this bit from an article on pbs.org caught my attention.
 
 a chap responding to cringely's piece about the death of tcp/ip and
 pointed out that the creator(s) of code red hadn't really been very
 creative. he then went on to suggest that someone could write a worm
 that quietly changed one random 2 to 8 in every excel spreadsheet on a
 pc... and then propagated itself quietly. 
 
 when would we hear about it? when some financial giant went
 bankrupt...

Who's to say it hasn't happened.

Check the Down Jones average lately?

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Re: screen (as in program screen) question

2001-08-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 04:28:05PM -0700, Henry House ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 When I run screen in an xterm, it sets the title of the xterm to 'screen'.
 Does anyone know how to set the title of the xterm to somthing like 'screen:
 %s' where %s in the session name?

By way of general answer, read the Bash-Prompt HOWTO and think aliases
or shell functions.


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Re: upgrading more then one box by downloading the files once!

2001-08-15 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 03:04:49AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 on Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 11:46:59AM +0200, Arno Baier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 wrote:
  hi folks,
  i have 3 woddy boxes and until now i made for each a upgrade by downloading
  each file three times. now i want to set up x and kde, these are to many
  files to
  download them three times.
  is ther any solution to download the files and store them
  and upgrade the other boxes with these files?
  
  i will not set up an mirror, to low internet connection - to many files !
 
 You can accomplish much the same effect as mirroring, more efficiently,
 by setting up a transparent squid proxy.  Your webrowsing will also
 benefit.

any chance we can get that translated into english?

:)

(and is there a /translucent/ or /opaque/ squid proxy?)
what's transparent, and how does a debster set it up?

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Preparing to UPGRADE POSTGRESQL? If you have a second machine
on your network that you can tinker with, do your upgrade
there, first: you can have your current applications link to
the remote database through the network:
psql -h 192.168.2.17 myDB
or in perl,
$dbh = DBI-connect('dbi:Pg:dbname=myDB;host=192.168.2.17');
(You may need to tweak your 'host-based access' settings in
/etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf, first.) Once you're satisfied that
all is well, upgrade your main server. No down time!
  See man psql and man DBD::Pg for details.

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Re: xv alternatives

2001-08-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 14 Aug 2001, Henry House wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 09:25:29PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
  On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 10:41:51AM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:
   
   I second that. I love the way xloadimage turns the cursor into a double
   arrow where the image is larger than the screen and lets you move the
   image around so you can see all parts of it more easily. Much nicer than
   the way imagemagick does it.
  
  Hmm. Nice. I like it. I'll make it my new favorite. 
 
 I've tried xloadimage and its derivative xli. I've had problems with both,
 e.g., some options do not work right and many images cause the program to
 crash. Imagemagick (or which display is the view app) is incredibly
 versatile, but is a memory hog and, worse, it responds very slowly even on a
 fast machine. The best I've found yet is feh, now available in unstable. Very
 full-featured and seems to work right. It's now my viewer of choice.
 
 
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feh doesn't work here. It produces the thumbprints of the images but
there is no way of enlarging them, either with the keys or the mouse.

Anthony


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Free translation: Holdfast is your only dog.



Re: Debian box unable to HTTP to www.nai.com - FIXED

2001-08-15 Thread will trillich
On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 02:57:00PM -0500, Michael Heldebrant wrote:
 Uhhh you're welcome.  I think?  ;  Glad I could help ask the right
 questions.
 
 Sir your eloquence could make many a dry man page a gripping tale of
 triumph and redemption.  I can see it now, Ron mullins presents: The
 perils of pppd.

which makes the NewbieDoc team slaver at the thought of culling
such talents for just such a task, slaver slaver...

:)

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This unpacks the .deb file, and gives you
a file called data.tar.gz which holds the
contents. To look into this file:
tar -tzf file.tar.gz | pager

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Latex stops working (TeX Live installation/Sid)

2001-08-15 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
Last night there were three or four power outages on this island, in
the middle of a storm.  Afterward, latex doesn't work.  I have
recently upgraded by apt-get dist-upgrade, and wonder whether the
problem is due to an upgraded library.  The error messages given by
LaTeX are as follows (with apologies for mangled linebreaks or long
lines):

I am clueless.  May I request assistance from some TeX guru w/ Debian?
I use TeX Live rather then tetex.  TeX Live is derived from tetex, and
it has worked flawlessly for three years, through three incarnations.
This installation is an up to date TeX Live.

 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/PROJ/SCHOOL/BIOLOGY$ latex pretest.tex
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 kpsewhich: error while loading shared libraries: kpsewhich: undefined symbol: 
 atexit
 fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found.
 tex: error while loading shared libraries: tex: undefined symbol: atexit
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/PROJ/SCHOOL/BIOLOGY$ 

fmtutil and fmtutil.cnf are there, but without kpsewhich, they are not
seen?  Is that it?

Thank you,

Alan Davis










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Re: Latex stops working (TeX Live installation/Sid): FOUNDIT

2001-08-15 Thread Alan Eugene Davis

Ok, I see a posting about the texit problem.  I am now upgrading.

Sorry.

Alan
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 hypothesis, however much beloved -- and I cannot resist forming one on
 every subject -- as soon as facts are shown to be opposed to it.  
  -- Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

  
 




Re: .forward file format for exim

2001-08-15 Thread will trillich
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 04:46:42PM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote:
 i have the following .forward file in my home directory:
 
 #debian lists
 if $h_From: contains debian-user or
$h_To: contains Debian-user
then
save mail/debian
 endif
  
 theoretically, this should tell exim to sort incoming
 mail into the files specified as per the exim documentation
 at www.exim.org
 
 since it doesn't work, i must be doing something wrong. this
 box uses potato with a 2.2.19 kernel.

one important thing about them exim filters is that to mark them
as exim filters you need to specify that they are actually exim
filters, which you do by including

# Exim filter

at the first line of your exim filter -- previously known as a
~/.forward file.

here's a cross-section from mine:

# Exim filter

logfile $home/.forward.log 0600

if error_message
then
save Mail/error
logwrite From $return_path $tod_log\n Subject: $h_subject:\n  Folder: 
error  $message_size
finish
endif

# 
# debian mailing lists

if $h_X-Mailing-List matches ^debian-(.*)@lists.debian.org
#X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/151892
then
save Mail/debian-${lc:$1}
logwrite From $return_path $tod_log\n Subject: $h_subject:\n  Folder: 
debian-${lc:$1}$message_size
finish
endif

[all that logfile hooey is for me to remain in my mailstat
comfort zone, being the lazy sot that i am.]

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There's also some great vimrc ideas there, too.

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Re: Netscape as root, sndconfig

2001-08-15 Thread Adam Bower
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:

 on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:55:44AM +1000, Tony Bartholomaeus ([EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]) wrote:
  I recently installed Netscape Communicator, which works great, except
  that I can't run it as root due to security reasons. Does anyone
  know how I can get around this?

 Don't run it as root.

hmmm, not the most useful answer I have ever seen, edit the file
/etc/netscape4/config and either uncomment the line which says
ALLOW_ROOT=yes or add it to the config file.

Adam
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Classic Windoze lockup while in X (Gnome)

2001-08-15 Thread Paul Scott

Hi,

I just had something scary (to me) happen.  I was in X (with Gnome) 
working on my favorite LT WinModem problem.  I was running Gnome Termnal 
and GnomePad+.  Potato 2.2.19pre17 with all other packages from the same 
official CD image D/L'd.


As I was trying to find help with why I couldn't open a hidden file in 
GnomePad+ I clicked on something, Gnome Terminal seemed to get the focus 
with an I-Beam cursor (from GnomePad+ ?) and I had the symptoms of a 
classic MS Windoze lockup.  The mouse was dead.  I could not open a 
virtual terminal.  I could not shut down X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. 
Ctrl-Alt-Del did nothing.


I reset my CPU, rebooted to Linux and went to /var/log to see what I 
could see.  I don't yet know what logs to look for but sorting by time 
seemed to only leave debug as relevant.  This is the only line in the 
time vicinity:


Aug 15 00:52:29 joy gnome-name-server[629]: server_is_alive: 
cnx[IDL:help_browser/simple_browser:1.0] = (nil)


Any clues or suggestions of what to read would be appreciated.

TIA,

Paul Scott



Re: Netscape as root, sndconfig

2001-08-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 09:41:46AM +0100, Adam Bower ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 
  on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:55:44AM +1000, Tony Bartholomaeus ([EMAIL 
  PROTECTED]) wrote:
   I recently installed Netscape Communicator, which works great, except
   that I can't run it as root due to security reasons. Does anyone
   know how I can get around this?
 
  Don't run it as root.
 
 hmmm, not the most useful answer I have ever seen, edit the file
 /etc/netscape4/config and either uncomment the line which says
 ALLOW_ROOT=yes or add it to the config file.

Again:  don't run it as root.

Here's a gun.  Here's some bullets.  Here's your foot.  The rest is up
to you.

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Re: Please recommend a machine (fwd)

2001-08-15 Thread Joerg Johannes
dude wrote:
 
 Maybe you can answer this
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:59:10 -0700
 From: Jaime Bemaras [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Please recommend a machine
 Resent-From: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
 
 Hello list,
 
 Evidently my last posting didn't make it to the list. I appologize if I end 
 up double-posting.
 
 I am looking to acquire a laptop. I will need a dual boot system because my 
 university only supports MS software (don't get me started).
 
 Here's my whishlist:
 
 - AMD processor preferred.
 - Touchpad preferred (I hate eraser-style mice)
 - Active Matrix with 1024x768 or better resolution
 - Room for a lot of RAM
 - DVD (DVD/CD-RW combo?) (even if swappable)
 - A big HD
 - Obviously, Debian supported hw (sound, modem, etc.)
 
 Any suggestions? I understand that this is a very open question.
 
 If you find it easier to answer which machine(s) stay away from by all means, 
 please do so.
 
 Same for manufacturers; if I should avoid a particular one like the plage, 
 please speak up. Also, if you know of one that's Linux-certified or even 
 Linux-supportive, please make me (us all) aware.
 
 Your information is more valuable than you initially think. Thank you very 
 much in advance for your time and advice.
 
 Jaime.
 

You should at least have a look on this adress:
http://www.linux-laptop.net/new.html
They list a lot of laptops, maybe you find what you need there.

hth

joerg

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