Re: Shoutcast - passwords

[Leo Spalteholz]

On October 28, 2002 07:08 pm, David Cureton wrote:
> Oh I recall a problem like that with icecast.  I think it was due
> to there being a space or some other whitespace character at the
> end of the password in the config file. Very frustrating!!
Yeah thats not the problem I think..  there are no extra characters or 
whitespace anywhere..

> I have a vague recollection of there being two passwords also. An
> administrator and a client. But those memories are vague!
Yeah the passwords for the admin and the oper are fine and I can log 
in.  Its just the source that cant connect and I have no idea why.  I 
think its a problem with the source tho cause everything else works 
just fine.  (Oddcast plugin for Winamp on Windows).
That source works just fine for icecast2 on windows..  I think it may 
have trouble with encrypted passwords..

Leo


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installing a printer

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

hello all!

this is a question that comes from a windows user shifting to linux.

i have debian 3.0 installed, up and running.

i recently have attached an hp710c printer to the lpt1 port. and i do 
not have any set-up cds, floppies, etc.

windows way of 'installing' the printer would be to add printer in 
printer folder and so on.

how do i do it in linux? is there a simple way of doing it?

and how do i 'install' networed printers? printers connected to our lan 
that runs on winnt?

can i choose default printer, etc like i used to do in windows?

thanx in advance

- sandip


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fetchmail or exim - what is failing?

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

hello all

so far, i have set up exim properly. it is able to send messages. i also 
used fetchmailconf and it created a .fetchmailrc file in ~. i have 
checked and there is no .procmailrc or .forward file in ~.

.fetchmailrc:

# Configuration created Fri Oct 25 13:38:42 2002 by fetchmailconf
set postmaster "sandip"
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties ""
set daemon 5
poll 192.168.100.1 with proto POP3
 user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'deshmukh' here

etc.

now, here is output of fetchmail -c:

5 messages for deshmukh at 192.168.100.1 (17323 octets).
etc.


now, at this time, /var/log/exim/mainlog does not contain any 
information regarding fetchmail's attempts. i wonder how does fetchmail 
-c not get logged in /var/log/exim/mainlog

now, finally, hoping that fetchmail will get the messages for me, i ran 
fetchmail. here is what i get in /var/log/exim/mainlog:

2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] 
U=sandip
2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] 
U=sandip
2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] 
U=sandip
2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] 
U=sandip
2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip

now, /var/mail/sandip is a 0byte file. there is no mbox file in ~.

is it that exim is playing the spoilsport? any remedies?

thanx

- sandip

ps - when i check mail using mozilla, none of the messages listed above 
are downloaded


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what is failing? fetchmail or exim?

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

hello all

so far, i have set up exim properly. it is able to send messages. i also 
used fetchmailconf and it created a .fetchmailrc file in ~. i have 
checked and there is no .procmailrc or .forward file in ~.

.fetchmailrc:

# Configuration created Fri Oct 25 13:38:42 2002 by fetchmailconf
set postmaster "sandip"
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties ""
set daemon 5
poll 192.168.100.1 with proto POP3
  user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'deshmukh' here

etc.

now, here is output of fetchmail -c:

5 messages for deshmukh at 192.168.100.1 (17323 octets).
etc.


now, at this time, /var/log/exim/mainlog does not contain any 
information regarding fetchmail's attempts. i wonder how does fetchmail 
-c not get logged in /var/log/exim/mainlog

now, finally, hoping that fetchmail will get the messages for me, i ran 
fetchmail. here is what i get in /var/log/exim/mainlog:

2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip

now, /var/mail/sandip is a 0byte file. there is no mbox file in ~.

is it that exim is playing the spoilsport? any remedies?

thanx

- sandip


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Re: locales and accented charaters

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, martin f krafft wrote:

[...]
> so can someone now come up with a locale for me? i am based in
> switzerland, want (british) english as the primary language, Euro
> support, C sorting, and don't believe in the am/pm time system? oh, my
[...]

Regarding euro support install the euro-support packages and read the
very good documentation ... afterwards you should be able to use the
euro (¤) sign. There is also a euro-test program included.

Oliver
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Re: fetchmail configuration

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

Shyamal Prasad wrote:


   "Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:

   Sandip> fetchmail -d0 > flog & results in flog that looks like:

   Sandip> 1 message for deshmukh at 192.168.100.1 (955 octets).
   Sandip> reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1 of 1
   Sandip> (955 octets) 
   Sandip> flushed

It means fetchmail got your message, delivered it locally and flushed
your POP mailbox (I think that means it deleted the message on the
mailbox, but I can't remember for sure).

where will this message go?? i thought fetchmail will get it in 
/var/mail/sandip!!

   Sandip> my /var/mail/sandip is 0 bytes

I hope you don't have a .procmailrc or .forward file.


i checked in ~. there are none of the two files present! i am just 
starting out. still some time before i have .forward or .procmailrc ;)

Also, be sure you have something like

   user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there ... is sandip here

in your fetchmailrc config file.


it does have such entries. i forgot to mention, but i had used 
fetchmailconf utility to create .fetchmailrc file

Look at that config file very
carefully (the -d0 flag you used kind of concerns me).


well, i read up man fetchmail. -d0 flag is for NOT running the fetchmail 
in background. as i said, i was still testing it. so, i chose to use the 
flag.

Can you match
each of those entries in the flog file with what you see being written
to /var/log/exim/mainlog? The exim log should tell you exactly where
the delivery went.


all right. this gives me some clue. will do a full run again and will be 
back with results.

Like your exim set up, this *should* be working if you got the config
files set up ;-) Boy, I hope you enjoying this, because you could go
out and turn a lot off people off Debian otherwise!


well, it sure is letting me learn a lot and helping me keep young! i 
still cant fathom, though, how is exim + pop3browser + fetchmail + 
procmail + mua a better solution than mua + 'rules' + smtp server setup! 
and no worries on me turning people off debian. i am sure, those who can 
think, will like to be on debian - not off it!

Cheers!
Shyamal


 


- sandip


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dual boot debian on a 6100/60 mac

[ben]

yo list, 

i've got 48 hours to mess with someone else's 6100/60 mac box and need to 
know if debian can be dual-booted on that arch, running mac os8.1. i've only 
used dual-boots on pc's up to now. 4 hours of googling isn't getting me the 
answers i need. i don't have the system disks for the mac os, so i need to do 
it right, or not, at all. all hints and clues greatly appreciated.

ben


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Re: /dev/dsp problem

[Martin Batermann]

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:06:48 -0500
 Seneca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please keep replies on the list.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 02:56:58PM +0200, Martin
> Batermann wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:48:47 -0500
> >  Seneca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 10:34:49AM +0200, Martin
> > > Batermann wrote:
> > > > I have a sound driver problem.  When I try to start
> the
> > > > sound server (via KDE's Preferences -> Sound ->
> Sound
> > > > Server), it gives me a message:  Error wile
> > > initializing
> > > > the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened
> (No
> > > such
> > > > device).
> > > > 
> > > > I would appreciate any advice on solving this
> problem.
> > > 
> > > Is your sound driver loaded? Use /sbin/lsmod to find
> out
> > > what drivers
> > > are loaded, and if your sound drivers are not loaded,
> > > find out what
> > > they are, and modprobe $DRIVER.
> > > 
> > 
> > /sbin/lsmod gives a list of 10 drivers and the only one
> > that looks like its got something to do with sound is
> > "soundcore".  The others listed, are r128, apm,
> nls_cp437,
> > ntfs, keybdev, usbkbd, input, usb-uhci and usbcore.
> 
> soundcore is the only one from that list that has to do
> with sound. The
> question is, which sound driver should you load? What is
> your soundcard?
> 
The soundcard appears to be an ESS Maestro PCI Audio.  I
should add here that my machine is a Dell Latitude C600
laptop, dual booting Win2K and Debian and the soundcard
info above is what is reported by the Windows Device
Manager.

Regards
MB

PS:  On matters of netiquette:  Does one reply to the list
as well as the sender, or just to the list?  Should
messages be snipped or kept complete?  Just wondering...
 
==
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Re: MXXS Problems

[C. Brewer]

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 Assuming it's XMMS. I had this problem for a bit. Apparently the xmms-cdread 
isn't grabbed as a dependency, which is fine if you're not using it for cds. 
It's not going to show anything in the /cdrom directory without that package 
installed though. I was pulling hair over this for a while before I figured 
it out. I have since moved on to trying to get it to play any sound at all 
now. XMMS will see the CD, list the directory and play them,but I got 0 
sound. And I have the xmms-artsplay package in also. Seems strange to get the 
system sounds but not audio sounds. I'm using cdparanoia to copy them to the 
hd before playing, but it sucks to have to wait the 15-20 mins or whatever to 
get it to the hd before I can listen to my cd:(


P.S. Sorry to piggy-back that last problem with one of my own, but I figured 
it saved some space:)
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Re: Poolng/redundancy in apt's sources.list?

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, Barney Wrightson said:

> Joe Emenaker wrote:
> 
> >What I'd *love* is if there was some way to group a bunch of "deb ..." 
> >entries in sources.list together in a group that indicated "These are 
> >all redundant. If just ONE of these can be reached, that's good enough".
> > 
> >Does apt support this kind of thing yet?
> > 
> >- Joe

I think most of the country code named sites (ftp.us.d.o, http.us.d.o,
etc.) are actually round-robin DNS setups, so the load is fairly
distributed already.  Occasionally I get an out of sync mirror, but
reupdating gets me another mirror, and the second one usually works just
fine.

HTH,
Steve

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Re: Configuring soundblaster live value

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, lameth said:
> It's a sound blaster live value PCI. lsmod returns
> 
> ModuleSizeused byTainted: P
> audio   38432   0 (unused)
> emu10k1 55712   1
> ac97_codec 9568 0 [emu10k1]
> sound  52876   0 [emu10k1]
> soundcore   3236 7 [audio emu10k1 sound]
> 
> The PnP OS option is off in the bios. Okay the modules are loaded but 
> are they configured correctly for the sound card? Should I put io=0x220 
> irq=7 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 next to emu10k1 in the /etc/modules file?

You don't really need to 'configure' the card - it's PCI, so most of
that's done for you.  That said, I have an emu10k1 card, and I use a
file, /etc/modutils/aliases.emu10k1, that contains:

alias char-major-14 emu10k1
alias sound-slot-1 emu10k1
alias sound-slot-2 emu10k1
alias sound-slot-3 emu10k1
alias sound-service-1-0 emu10k1
alias sound-service-2-3 emu10k1
alias sound-service-3-3 emu10k1

These are the various extra parts of the card (rear speakers, secondary
input, whatever).  I don't remember whether there was a problem that led
me to do this, or if I did it from some howto online (this is the very
first debian/linux box I installed, so it has some, ahem, historical
quirks that it acquired going from slink to sarge).

HTH.
Steve
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Re: fetchmail configuration

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:

Sandip> fetchmail -d0 > flog & results in flog that looks like:

Sandip> 1 message for deshmukh at 192.168.100.1 (955 octets).
Sandip> reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1 of 1
Sandip> (955 octets) 
Sandip> flushed

Sandip> now, i want to know, what is this flushed? where has this
Sandip> message gone?

It means fetchmail got your message, delivered it locally and flushed
your POP mailbox (I think that means it deleted the message on the
mailbox, but I can't remember for sure).

Sandip> my /var/mail/sandip is 0 bytes

I hope you don't have a .procmailrc or .forward file.

Also, be sure you have something like

user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there ... is sandip here

in your fetchmailrc config file. Look at that config file very
carefully (the -d0 flag you used kind of concerns me). Can you match
each of those entries in the flog file with what you see being written
to /var/log/exim/mainlog? The exim log should tell you exactly where
the delivery went.

Like your exim set up, this *should* be working if you got the config
files set up ;-) Boy, I hope you enjoying this, because you could go
out and turn a lot off people off Debian otherwise!

Cheers!
Shyamal


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Re: exim problem solved. how do i configure mozilla?

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

Shyamal Prasad wrote:


   Sandip> an error occured while sending mail. the mail server
   Sandip> responded: relayin to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Sandip> prohibited by administrator. (failed to find hostname from
   Sandip> ip address). please check mail receipients and try again
   >> 
   >> I have not seen this one, but most likely you need to look in
   >> exim.conf and look at the options that have the word 'relay' in

   Sandip> got the gist. how do i solve it? do i have to modify my
   Sandip> exim.conf again? well, now i am kind of used to it!

Well, you will have to investigate a little.

Is host_accept_relay set to "127.0.0.1 : 1"?

yes. was a goof up on my part not to get it! i think i got confused 
between 192.168.100.21 and 127.0.0.1!! i have set it right. and 
hopefully, the mails are going now!

What is your email address in Mozilla set to? If I use my public email
address my exim set up seems to work for Mozilla. Incidentally, I have
never use Mozilla as my email client before, and I truly surprised
that it does not support a native UNIX (sendmail) interface


i think i should be posting these queries to mozilla newsgroup.


Cheers!
Shyamal


 


thanx again

- sandip


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Re: mail in linux

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

Shyamal Prasad wrote:


   "Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:

   Sandip> and what do lesser mortals, and quite a few of them, who
   Sandip> do not have the luxury of always on net connections do?

You could always have fetchmail dial out on demand if you don't mind
the phone bill.But if you don't have this, yes, I agree that
looking at headers might be nice. Use IMAP if you can.


use of imap will depend upon if the mail server is allowing that. most 
of them offer pop3 connections and just a few offer imap. correct me if 
i am wrong

While doing some admin box on a debian machine at work I found a
pop3browser package and the description matches what you want.


yes. thanx for pointing me to it. so, now my setup will be exim + 
pop3browser + fetchmail + procmail? on windows it used to be *only* 
outlook!!

   Sandip> moreover, are we not dealing with the threat of viruses
   Sandip> more effectively?

Not really. You are assuming (1) you can determine a virus from
looking at headers


no. i am only saying that i will delete all headers if senders are not 
known etc. not a 100% guarantee but some safety!

and (2) your MUA is so buggy that a virus will get
to it (welcome to Linux).


not only mua - the whole system! and while i agree chances of virus are 
low on linux, there still remain *some* chances!

Cheers!
Shyamal


 


- sandip


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Re: How do I prevent DHCP'd interfaces from coming up automatically on boot?

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Joe" == Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Joe> Am I missing something here? Is it the prescribed behavior
Joe> for the "dhcp" directive to imply "auto"?

Not as far as I know. I have a laptop, and not using 'auto' works just
fine. 

I would suggest experimenting with '/etc/init.d/networking stop' and
'/etc/init.d/networking start' to test your changes to the interfaces
file. When networking is started it uses the 'ifup -a' command, so
only those networks marked with the 'auto' tag should get
started. ifup uses /etc/networks/ifstate to determine what the network
state is, so perhaps that is where things are going wrong.

The behavior you are seeing is certainly abnormal. Perhaps the
suggestion above will help discover a little more. Sorry for the lame
help 

/Shyamal


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Re: exim problem solved. how do i configure mozilla?

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

Jens Grivolla wrote:


Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

an error occured while sending mail. the mail server responded:
relayin to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by
administrator. (failed to find hostname from ip address). please check
mail receipients and try again
   


You don't allow relaying for your computer.  Using localhost (or
127.0.0.1) instead of 192.168.100.21 as your SMTP-server in mozilla
might fix it.


perfect, sir! if the list is getting this message, we are bang on the spot!


But you should take a look at everything related to "relay" in the
config file and the exim docs anyway to understand what this is about.

Hint: you probably allow relay for localhost but not for
192.168.100.21.  Since you address the server not on its local address
but the one bound to its NIC (network interface card), the mail
doesn't seem to come from localhost (127.0.0.1).


i did. quite informative. thanx

- sandip


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Re: PHP module for Apache - FIXED FIXED FIXED!!

[Chip Rose]

On Sunday 27 October 2002 06:54 pm, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Chip Rose([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > I'm in the same boat - the default configuration used when installing
> > debs, doesn't work.
>
> Strong statement.  You must be new to Debian.  Debs work, some of them
> just require a bit of user intelligence.
>
> > I've ensured the LoadModule and other appropriate lines are in
> > httpd.conf, and php still isn't working.  I've read all the how-to's, and
> > the advice given which makes it look simple, isn't simple.  It just
> > sounds good in theory, but doesn't work in reality.  I get the following
> > error:
> >
> > Fatal error: Failed opening required './libraries/grab_globals.lib.php'
> > (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/index.php on line 8
>
> In checking the error msg above I find that grab_globals.lib.php is in
> /usr/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/grab_globals.lib.php.  That means, to
> me, you are trying to run phpmyadmin, which wasn't obivious in your
> comments.  I installed the phmyadmin deb and did not have your
> problem.
>
> Well who wrote that index.php file?  Oh, I think I see what you did.
> It looks as if you copied /usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php to /var/www.
> If so, thats whats wrong.  see below.
>
> Do you have the line
> Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
> in your /etc/apache/httpd.conf file?
>
> Check /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf for a line like
> Alias /phpmyadmin /usr/share/phpmyadmin
>
> If you have the above then (w3m|links|lynx)
> http://Your.server.name/phpmyadmin should load phymyadmin.
>
> > And I can't find any solutions in my search of debian, php, or mysql
> > mailing list archives, or anywhere on Google (I've looked at a *LOT*). 
> > The debs just don't work.  I'm thinking of installing the unstable
> > versions, in a futile try-anything attempt.
>
> I have no idea which .debs you are refering to, that 'just don't
> work'.  Maybe if you get a bit more specific, we can help you find
> what 'you' have to do to get things running the way you want.
>
> May I suggest that you look to yourself before jumping to the
> conclusion that the debs are at fault.  You won't make many friends
> here by blaming your problems on someone else.



Wayne,

Thanks so much for the help, and the rebuke for my poor attitude.  I've 
finally gotten Apache/MySQL/PHP combination working, thanks to you.  This has 
taken hours per night, for months and months - I messed with it through 
Mandrake 6.0, Mandrake 8.0, and now Debian 3.0, and it still wouldn't work 
(so I blamed Debian).  I apologize for sometimes taking a newbie viewpoint of 
expecting it to work like *magic*, but I really have hacked away at it, and 
read innumerable pages, and instructions on how to do it.  I do have user 
intelligence, although I'm sure it wasn't apparent from my rant - if only you 
knew the amount of time I spent labouring on this, and how little I 
accomplished.  It was a combination of extreme effort and overwhelming 
desire/need to get this one simple thing working correctly, coupled with an 
persistent and utter lack of results, that had me frustrated beyond words.  
Numerous posts on several lists yielded no clues, and my final (final?) post 
was one from a semi-crazed frame of mind.

I removed phpmyadmin, and things started working.  I'd hosed it up beyond 
recognition.  You're absolutely right when you surmised that I had indeed 
copied phpmyadmin install files directly into my /var/www/ directory, which 
was A BAD THING to do, which was causing my library errors.  You're also 
absolutely right in deducing that I had indeed installed phpmyadmin and had 
left that out of my rant - I didn't think it was a factor, and *neglected* to 
mention it (newbie alert!).

I have no idea how you came so easily to your conclusions, other than you are 
psychic, or have been looking over my shoulder while seated at my terminal.   
It is amazing.   I still maintain that I would never have gotten it working 
had it not been for your help, and sharp rebuke in response to my whiney 
post.  Nothing on the web even vaguely offered any insight as to the pickle 
I'd gotten myself into, and it would've been forever before I'd even begin to 
"get a clue."

I've now installed DaDaBIK, , which is just what the 
doctor ordered, to allow me to input and query MySQL via web interface.  The 
program is extremely easy, the default settings are even great, and it is 
what I've been looking for, for a LONG LONG LONG time.

Again, sorry to the List for my rant, and for this ridiculously long post - 
my only excuse is that my tortured mind finally snapped from the extreme, 
mind-bending frustration - if it pleases the list, I'll enter a plea of not 
guilty, by reason of temporary insanity.

Thanks Millions,

Chip




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Re: Configuring soundblaster live value

[Bob Proulx]

lameth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-28 20:05:51 -0500]:
> It's a sound blaster live value PCI. lsmod returns
> 
> ModuleSizeused byTainted: P
> audio   38432   0 (unused)
> emu10k1 55712   1
> ac97_codec 9568 0 [emu10k1]
> sound  52876   0 [emu10k1]
> soundcore   3236 7 [audio emu10k1 sound]

Coming late to this thread...

If that is the case then run:

  modconf

Select the emu10k1 driver.

It will try to isntall it and if that works will finish the setup for
you and you should have sound working.

Bob



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Re: Maximum partition size

[Levi Waldron]

> In future please use something like install-doc for these. I'll reassign 
> this one.

Sorry about that, and thanks for the advice.  I just used "reportbug" and 
didn't see an appropriate choice given.  I don't see install-doc under 
www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages either.  In this case is there somewhere 
else I should look, or ask debian-user, or make up an appropriate sounding 
category?


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Re: exim problem solved. how do i configure mozilla?

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:

Sandip> Shyamal Prasad wrote:
>> "Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:
>> 
Sandip> an error occured while sending mail. the mail server
Sandip> responded: relayin to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sandip> prohibited by administrator. (failed to find hostname from
Sandip> ip address). please check mail receipients and try again
>> 
>> I have not seen this one, but most likely you need to look in
>> exim.conf and look at the options that have the word 'relay' in

Sandip> got the gist. how do i solve it? do i have to modify my
Sandip> exim.conf again? well, now i am kind of used to it!

Well, you will have to investigate a little.

Is host_accept_relay set to "127.0.0.1 : 1"?

What is your email address in Mozilla set to? If I use my public email
address my exim set up seems to work for Mozilla. Incidentally, I have
never use Mozilla as my email client before, and I truly surprised
that it does not support a native UNIX (sendmail) interface

Cheers!
Shyamal


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Re: /etc/init.d services start/stop question

[pd3]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:46:20AM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
 
Hello

> But how does the system specify these when i reads
> for instance S99shorewall when booting the system?
> Does it add a "start" parameter to the script when it
> resolves the link to start the script?

You will find a script at /etc/init.d/rcS. Haven't study
it, but I suppose it is responsible for looking in the 
rc?.d directories and starting/stopping scripts in the
correct order.

t.irvine


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Re: Need help installing network driver

[Andris Kalnozols]

Begging the indulgence of another cross-post, a more detailed
description of the tasksel bug appears below for the benefit
of the debian-boot maintainers...

> Andris Kalnozols wrote:
> > 
> > Problem #1: Cannot get past the base system install because tasksel
> > keeps looping at the prompt to mount CD #1.
> > 
> > Problem #2: There was no network driver that I could find on the 3.0
> > Debian CDs that supports the Broadcom device.

Donald Spoon wrote:
>
> I did some snooping around on this one, and found out tg3.o driver is 
> NOT in my "full" 2.4.18 kernel, but is included in my "full" 2.4.19 
> kernel.  Both of these were installed from the Debian "kernel-image" 
> packages after I had done a bf2.4 initial install.
> 
> The bf2.4 boot-floppies have been trimmed to fit on a floppy.  Only the 
> most likely drivers are included, and unfortunately there will always be 
> that 10 percent that have equipment not covered.  Sorry...
> 
> I understand the packages available from Debian are spread across the 7 
> CDs, with the most frequently used residing on CD #1.  I suspect your 
> tasksel is looking for a needed package that is NOT on your current CD. 
>   The only answer to this is to get CD #1 if you must run tasksel.

My initial description was rather vague.  I have burned the first three
CDs and the Debian installer dutifully asks if I would like to read them
and index the available packages.  It does this and puts the appropriate
entries for the CDs into /etc/apt/sources.list.  The defect seems to be
with tasksel itself.  After going through the menu and choosing a minimal
server configuration, I get prompted to mount CD #1 and hit return.  Doing
so does nothing but loop at the same prompt.  There was an instance during
one of my many install cycles where tasksel recognized that CD #1 was
mounted, but I was not able to duplicate the situation.  Trying to load
Debian onto another identical server gave the same results.

> Here is a "kludge" suggestion...  If you can get a "minimal" install 
> done on the machine to where you have floppy and CDROM access at the 
> command line, you might be able to transfer the 2.4.19 kernel package to 
> it after downloading it on your other machine.  Once you get it 
> installed, you should be able to bring up the network and complete your 
> install from the internet.  I would suggest you temporarily skip the 
> tasksel step (don't choose anything) and see if the install will 
> complete.  This should give you a minimal "working" system... command 
> line only.  If this can't be done, then getting hold of CD #1 is 
> probably necessary.  For the kernel-image transfer, I suspect the 
> package is too large to fit on a floppy.  That is why I mentioned CDROM 
> access above.  You could burn it on a CD and transfer it that way.
> 
> Alternatively ("kludge #2"), to establish network access you could 
> temporarily put in another NIC that has a driver in the bf2.4 kernel and 
> get the files you need that way.  This might end up being the easiest by 
> far...you could d/l anthing you need (including packages on CD #1) off 
> the internet.  Once you get the kernel-image-2.4.19 installed you should 
> be ready to go!
> 
> HTH & gives you some ideas.
> 
> Cheers,
> -Don Spoon-

Thanks, Don, for the research in turning up the necessary driver in the
2.4.19 kernel image.  Your second suggestion of bootstrapping network
connectivity by plugging in a less exotic NIC is definitely the path of
least resistance.  Much appreciated.

Andris


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[Paul A. Thomas]

At 09:42 PM 10/28/2002 -0600, you wrote:

debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2002 : 
Issue 304

Today's Topics:
  Re: Gvim  [ Torrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Gvim  [ iain d broadfoot 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  RE: Corporate Anti-virus solutions[ "Joyce, Matthew" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  MXXS Problems [ lameth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  How do I prevent DHCP'd interfaces f  [ "Joe Emenaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Spurious interrupt... [ Derrick 'dman' Hudson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: Spurious interrupt... [ Alvin Oga 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: Install w/ floppy not working on  [ Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: Install w/ floppy not working on  [ Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  RE: Install w/ floppy not working on  [ "Joyce, Matthew" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Need help installing network driver   [ Andris Kalnozols 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  Re: Shoutcast - passwords [ David Cureton 

  Re: Need help installing network dri  [ "Donald R. Spoon" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:50:23 -0800
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$ apt-get install vim-gtk

That should do the trick.

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 12:47:24PM +1100, Russell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been using console-mode vim, but i've heard of a
> gui gvim. Is there any debian packages for it? I can't
> find any. I just want more control over X colour resources.
>
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:45:08 +
From: iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Russell wrote:
Hi all,
I've been using console-mode vim, but i've heard of a
gui gvim. Is there any debian packages for it? I can't
find any. I just want more control over X colour resources.


apt-get install vim-gtk

iain


Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:53:12 +1100
From: "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'nate'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Subject: RE: Corporate Anti-virus solutions
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I have used sophos a lot in the past, I was not aware of a linux client
though.
I found it was a particularly fast av scanner when use to scan many small
files , such as on an email filtering box, like Mimesweeper.  But I did not
like the update methods.   Basically wget iirc.

As for Nortons/Symantec, I have to say I do recommend it for large MS based
enterprises, the deployment is a doddle, I have pushed out 1000s of clients
over a night time.

The tree like/cascading configuration for the update servers is also very
good, especially over slow wan links.

Cross platform, I can only say it was good for win98/NT/win2k and Netware,
not so hot for command line, good integration with outlook and Exchange.
Dreadful/non-existant deploy/management for Macs.

AV products are as much to do with upkeep and management as they are
catching virues.

Matt


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From: nate [mailto:debian-user@;aphroland.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2002 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Corporate Anti-virus solutions


Curtis Vaughan said:
> One year ago, our organization was totally MS. So, for our corporate
> anti-virus product we have been using Norton Anti-virus corporate
> addition.
>
> Now, our organization is 50/50 linux/ MS. Norton anti-virus is not
> available for linux, so I'm wondering what other options there may be
> for a corporate environment, which option is recommended by some of
> you out there!
>
> Personally, I would like one that would also work with our mail
> servers (1 exchange server, 1 postfix server).
>
> Currently, all linux machines use clamav, btw.  Maybe this is good
> enough?


I can't reccomend sophos enough. I've always hated symantec. I don't know
what it is about them that drives chills down my spine but I just can't
stand them.

Sophos is great because they support a diverse selection of platforms,
provide incremental(e.g. 10kb or so) updates, their upgrades are just plain
files, no "smart update" with binary patches to the virus defs like some
other vendors do, so updates are easy to deploy(extract the files..). for
Win32 they have an auto upgrade thing if you have a Win32 server you can
make a "server" install and install the client "versions" on the clients and
have them check for updates ever so often(default is every 10 minutes). When
an update is detected it removes & reinstalls the product automatically(with
or without user interaction depending on your preferences). It allows the
us

3.0: Logon Problems

[geno]

1. In console mode I have no problem logging in either as root or normal 
user. In graphical mode (level 5) , all logon attempts fail.
Any thoughts?

2.  How do I start up KDE after logging in under console mode?

Thanks.

geno



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Re: exim reject most of a domain

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 11:21:00AM -0800, Michael West wrote:
>  sender_reject ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] : aol.com

You want an MDA like procmail to do this after it reaches the MTA but
before the MUA.

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Re: Why debian sucks.

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 05:31:54PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote:
> Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work:(
> The otherday I tried to unsubscribe from debian-ipv6 to find out that
> I subscribed under a different name, so I tried to unsubscribe with
> that other name filled in, I got a conformation messages, but simply
> replying to it didn't work. I had to temporarely make exim rewrite
> my headers to conform to the old address I used when subscribing.

Or you can simply just use mutt as your MUA, which allows you to play
with the From header on your own.

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Re: `gnome-approved' dark-background theme for gnome 2?

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On Monday 28 October 2002 19:14, Miles Bader wrote:
>
> However, I don't know whether the problem lies with the them or with
> buggy apps (I've encounted many apps before that use the wrong fg color,
> which is only noticable if you've got a theme very different from the
> default), so I'm wondering if anyone knows of a `dark' theme that's been
> approved for use with gnome 2.0, or that at least works for somebody...
>
> * I've got the following gtk2 theme engine packages installed:
>
> i   gtk2-engines-crux   - GTK+2.0 Crux theme engine
> i   gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue - LighthouseBlue theme for GTK+ 2.0
> i   gtk2-engines-metal  - Metallic theme for GTK+ 2.x
> i   gtk2-engines-mist   - A flat theme for GTK+ 2.x
> i   gtk2-engines-pixbuf - Pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x
> i   gtk2-engines-thinice- ThinIce theme for GTK+ 2.0
>

http://themes.freshmeat.net, check out the gtk section.


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`gnome-approved' dark-background theme for gnome 2?

[Miles Bader]

Gnome 2.0 has hit unstable, and all my carefully crafted settings blew
up (it mumbled something about converting them, but the conversion
failed; it'd be nice if it told you why...).

I've now got things halfway-sane again, and the major remaining
irritation is the lack of any `dark' themes -- everything that shows up
in the Themes control-center widget* is some minor variation on `MS
Windows grey'.

When I try to use one my old dark themes that worked with gnome 1 (by
renaming the `gtk' subdir in the theme directory to `gtk-2.0'), they
usually only half-work, e.g., lots of text is displayed as
black-on-dark-grey or something similarly unreadable.

However, I don't know whether the problem lies with the them or with
buggy apps (I've encounted many apps before that use the wrong fg color,
which is only noticable if you've got a theme very different from the
default), so I'm wondering if anyone knows of a `dark' theme that's been
approved for use with gnome 2.0, or that at least works for somebody...

* I've got the following gtk2 theme engine packages installed:

i   gtk2-engines-crux   - GTK+2.0 Crux theme engine
i   gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue - LighthouseBlue theme for GTK+ 2.0
i   gtk2-engines-metal  - Metallic theme for GTK+ 2.x
i   gtk2-engines-mist   - A flat theme for GTK+ 2.x
i   gtk2-engines-pixbuf - Pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x
i   gtk2-engines-thinice- ThinIce theme for GTK+ 2.0

Thanks,

-Miles
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Re: mutt: PGP send hooks

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 03:48:04PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> You do have to be careful as you need to include a send-hook *above*
> the one that disables pgp_autosign to allow mutt to return to the
> original configuration:
> 
>   send-hook . "set pgp_autosign"

Yes, yes, I know that and am doing that.


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Re: Shoutcast - passwords

[Jon-o Addleman]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 02:08:38PM +1100, David Cureton spake thusly:
> Oh I recall a problem like that with icecast.  I think it was due to there 
> being a space or some other whitespace character at the end of the password 
> in the config file. Very frustrating!!
> 
> I recall pulling my hair out when the passwords looked exactly the same 
> (well almost)
> 
> I have a vague recollection of there being two passwords also. An 
> administrator and a client. But those memories are vague! 

three, actually. There's a client password (i.e. for sources), an admin
password, and an operator password. Never used the last one for
anything...

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Re: MXXS Problems

[Jon-o Addleman]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:58:06PM -0500, lameth spake thusly:
> I can't play any audio cd's in XMMS. When I click the play button a 
> window opens displaying my home directory, when I change to the /cdrom/ 
> directory no files are listed. I've checked etc/fstab and I do have a 
> listing for my cdrom drive;
>
> /dev/cdrom/cdrom iso9660  ro, user, noauto0 
>  0
> 
> When I issue the command mount /cdrom I get this response
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/cdrom, or to 
> many mounted file systems.
> 
> When I issue the command umount /cdrom I get this response
> umount: /cdrom is not mounted (according to mtab)
> 
> The contents of mtab are;
> /dev/hda2 / ext3 rw, errors=remount-ro 0 0
> proc /proc proc rw 0 0
> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0
> /dev/hda4 /home ext3 rw 0 0
> /proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0
> 
> From what I've read on the linux document project's site my cdrom is 
> set correctly in fstab. The cdrom is actually a dvd-rom drive, that 
> actually works and plays dvd's, would it need different settings in 
> fstab to play audio cd's.

Actually, the CD audio stuff is completely independent, and requires no
mounting. It's basically just an XMMS hack.

What it does is to scan cds (automatically, I think) and any audio
tracks it finds get listed in the file selection under whatever
directory you've chosen in the xmms preferences. These files won't show
up in any other program - they're not really there. It's strictly an
xmms thing. fstab and mtab have nothing to do with it. Note also that
you *can* choose the same directory for the listing of these pseudofiles
as you would for mounting an actual cdrom, but you don't need to.

To set which directory the pseudofiles get put in, configure the CD
Audio input plugin in xmms.


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Re: Need help installing network driver

[Donald R. Spoon]

Andris Kalnozols wrote:

Forgive the cross-post but I think it's important that the
boot-floppy folks know about this installation difficulty.

I'm trying to install Debian on a Proliant DL360 server with Compaq's
built-in NC7780 gigabit-ethernet based on the Broadcom 5701 chip.

Status:  Succeeded in getting the base system installed by choosing
 the `bf24' kernel, the only option on the 3.0 CD that
 recognized the Smart Array 5i RAID controller.

Problem #1: Cannot get past the base system install because tasksel
keeps looping at the prompt to mount CD #1.

Problem #2: There was no network driver that I could find on the 3.0
Debian CDs that supports the Broadcom device.

In researching the issue, I ran accross postings that reach
the general conclusion that Broadcom's original driver is
not good, e.g., < http://old.lwn.net/2002/0228/a/tigon.php3 >.
The recommended alternative is the tg3 (Tigon3) driver.

Question: I have access to another fully-installed Debian system with a
  gcc compiler as well as these files from a Redhat 7.3 system:

tg3.c  tg3.h  tg3.o

  Could someone please tell me the steps (details would be nice)
  that are necessary to prepare the above tg3 files into something
  that can be put onto a floppy disk and transported via sneakernet
  to the Catch-22 system?  Once I get network connectivity, I'll
  have a workaround to problem #1.
	  
Suggestion: Could the boot-floppy maintainers please include the tg3
	network driver in their future versions?


Thanks,
Andris Kalnozols
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



I did some snooping around on this one, and found out tg3.o driver is 
NOT in my "full" 2.4.18 kernel, but is included in my "full" 2.4.19 
kernel.  Both of these were installed from the Debian "kernel-image" 
packages after I had done a bf2.4 initial install.

The bf2.4 boot-floppies have been trimmed to fit on a floppy.  Only the 
most likely drivers are included, and unfortunately there will always be 
that 10 percent that have equipment not covered.  Sorry...

I understand the packages available from Debian are spread across the 7 
CDs, with the most frequently used residing on CD #1.  I suspect your 
tasksel is looking for a needed package that is NOT on your current CD. 
 The only answer to this is to get CD #1 if you must run tasksel.

Here is a "kludge" suggestion...  If you can get a "minimal" install 
done on the machine to where you have floppy and CDROM access at the 
command line, you might be able to transfer the 2.4.19 kernel package to 
it after downloading it on your other machine.  Once you get it 
installed, you should be able to bring up the network and complete your 
install from the internet.  I would suggest you temporarily skip the 
tasksel step (don't choose anything) and see if the install will 
complete.  This should give you a minimal "working" system... command 
line only.  If this can't be done, then getting hold of CD #1 is 
probably necessary.  For the kernel-image transfer, I suspect the 
package is too large to fit on a floppy.  That is why I mentioned CDROM 
access above.  You could burn it on a CD and transfer it that way.

Alternatively ("kludge #2"), to establish network access you could 
temporarily put in another NIC that has a driver in the bf2.4 kernel and 
get the files you need that way.  This might end up being the easiest by 
far...you could d/l anthing you need (including packages on CD #1) off 
the internet.  Once you get the kernel-image-2.4.19 installed you should 
be ready to go!

HTH & gives you some ideas.

Cheers,
-Don Spoon-



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Re: Shoutcast - passwords

[David Cureton]

Oh I recall a problem like that with icecast.  I think it was due to there 
being a space or some other whitespace character at the end of the password 
in the config file. Very frustrating!!

I recall pulling my hair out when the passwords looked exactly the same 
(well almost)

I have a vague recollection of there being two passwords also. An 
administrator and a client. But those memories are vague! 

On Monday 28 October 2002 05:18, Leo Spalteholz wrote:
> On October 26, 2002 09:42 pm, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:54:53PM +0200, Bache Kharazmi wrote:
> > > hi
> > >
> > > Anyone who've experience in sending shoutcast radio ?
> > > I've been trying xmms-liveice but it sucks and make xmms crash.
> > > any suggestions ?
> >
> > Have you had a look at the icecast-server or libapache-mod-mp3
> > packages?
> 
> Yes, try icecast-server and please post if you get it working.  I've 
> had no ends of trouble with the debian icecast package and encrypted 
> passwords.
> 
> cheers,
> leo
> 
> >
> > -rob
> 
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Need help installing network driver

[Andris Kalnozols]

Forgive the cross-post but I think it's important that the
boot-floppy folks know about this installation difficulty.

I'm trying to install Debian on a Proliant DL360 server with Compaq's
built-in NC7780 gigabit-ethernet based on the Broadcom 5701 chip.

Status:  Succeeded in getting the base system installed by choosing
 the `bf24' kernel, the only option on the 3.0 CD that
 recognized the Smart Array 5i RAID controller.

Problem #1: Cannot get past the base system install because tasksel
keeps looping at the prompt to mount CD #1.

Problem #2: There was no network driver that I could find on the 3.0
Debian CDs that supports the Broadcom device.

In researching the issue, I ran accross postings that reach
the general conclusion that Broadcom's original driver is
not good, e.g., < http://old.lwn.net/2002/0228/a/tigon.php3 >.
The recommended alternative is the tg3 (Tigon3) driver.

Question: I have access to another fully-installed Debian system with a
  gcc compiler as well as these files from a Redhat 7.3 system:

tg3.c  tg3.h  tg3.o

  Could someone please tell me the steps (details would be nice)
  that are necessary to prepare the above tg3 files into something
  that can be put onto a floppy disk and transported via sneakernet
  to the Catch-22 system?  Once I get network connectivity, I'll
  have a workaround to problem #1.
  
Suggestion: Could the boot-floppy maintainers please include the tg3
network driver in their future versions?


Thanks,
Andris Kalnozols
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RE: Install w/ floppy not working on compaq laptop (armada m700)

[Joyce, Matthew]

Title: Message



Is 
base1.bin bootable ?
 
I 
think you need to get some other floppy images.   They depend on which 
type of kernel you will be using.
 
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-boot-from-floppies
 

11.2.3.1 Files for the Initial System Boot
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-appendix.en.html
I 
would definitly read through the install manual before 
proceeding.
Matt

  
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2002 12:47 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Install w/ 
  floppy not working on compaq laptop (armada m700)Im trying to put debian on my compaq armada 
  m700 and am not having luck here's what i did i downloaded to a floppy 
  base-1.bin 
     from 
  http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/base-images-3.0.23-2002-07-18/images-1.44/ 
  in the bios of the laptop i set the boot order to: 1st 
   multidrive 2nd HD 3rd Ether then to begin install i 
  tried to boot the laptop (not reboot) from the base 1 bin floppy and it still 
  went straight into windows xp what am i doing wrong ive been using 
  debian for almost a year on my home system but have never installed it myself 
  so please speak in laymans terms if possible and with as much direction as 
  possible.  if there is something else i need please tell me what and 
  where thank you so much for your help 
    David 
  

Re: Install w/ floppy not working on compaq laptop (armada m700)

[Kent West]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Im trying to put debian on my compaq armada m700 and am not having 
luck here's what i did

i downloaded to a floppy base-1.bin 
 
   from 
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/base-images-3.0.23-2002-07-18/images-1.44/ 


The image has to be put onto the floppy using a special tool. Download 
and run "rawrite2.exe" to put the image on the floppy. You'll need more 
than just this one floppy however. See the instructions at
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual


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Re: Install w/ floppy not working on compaq laptop (armada m700)

[Kent West]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Im trying to put debian on my compaq armada m700 and am not having 
luck here's what i did

i downloaded to a floppy base-1.bin 
 
   from 
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/base-images-3.0.23-2002-07-18/images-1.44/ 


The image has to be put onto the floppy using a special tool. Download 
and run "rawrite2.exe" to put the image on the floppy. You'll need more 
than just this one floppy however. See the instructions at
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual


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Re: Spurious interrupt...

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya derrick

thanx for the entertainment !!!

c ya
alvin


On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:

...
 
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> Ok, sure.  But this is public ya know.
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Re: Spurious interrupt...

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 09:42:00AM +0800, Joey Quevedo wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| Does anybody know what does this message means:
| 
| "Spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7"?

It means "nothing", more-or-less.  At one point I did a google search
and found out more details.  I see it too, on a dell inspirion 7500
from work.

|  :
| This e-mail is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you
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| be a breach of confidentiality.

Oops.

| If you have received this message in
| error,

Was it in error?

| please advise us immediately by return e-mail and delete the
| document.

Ok, sure.  But this is public ya know.

| The address from which this message has been sent is
| strictly for business mail only and the company reserves the right to
| monitor the contents of communications and take action where and
| when it is deemed necessary. Thank you for your co-operation.

In case you didn't guess yet, these disclaimers are both stupid and
powerless.

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How do I prevent DHCP'd interfaces from coming up automatically on boot?

[Joe Emenaker]

I've got a built-in ethernet jack on my laptop. Being a laptop... this jack
is often not plugged into anything (aka: I don't want it coming up
automatically on boot). However, being a laptop, when it *is* plugged in, it
gets plugged in at a variety of places (aka: I need DHCP).

The problem is that, if I set up my /etc/network/interfaces like so:

  auto lo
  iface lo inet loopback

  iface eth0 inet dhcp

then Debian seems to try to bring up eth0 *anyway*. /etc/network/interfaces
claims that I can use a "noauto " directive, but I get an error
message on the console (about a syntax error in /etc/network/interfaces, of
course) at boot time when I try that.

Am I missing something here? Is it the prescribed behavior for the "dhcp"
directive to imply "auto"?

- Joe



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MXXS Problems

[lameth]

I can't play any audio cd's in XMMS. When I click the play button a 
window opens displaying my home directory, when I change to the /cdrom/ 
directory no files are listed. I've checked etc/fstab and I do have a 
listing for my cdrom drive;
   
/dev/cdrom/cdrom iso9660  ro, user, noauto0 
 0

When I issue the command mount /cdrom I get this response
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/cdrom, or to 
many mounted file systems.

When I issue the command umount /cdrom I get this response
umount: /cdrom is not mounted (according to mtab)

The contents of mtab are;
/dev/hda2 / ext3 rw, errors=remount-ro 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0
/dev/hda4 /home ext3 rw 0 0
/proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0

From what I've read on the linux document project's site my cdrom is 
set correctly in fstab. The cdrom is actually a dvd-rom drive, that 
actually works and plays dvd's, would it need different settings in 
fstab to play audio cd's.


tia
Lameth


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RE: Corporate Anti-virus solutions

[Joyce, Matthew]

I have used sophos a lot in the past, I was not aware of a linux client
though.
I found it was a particularly fast av scanner when use to scan many small
files , such as on an email filtering box, like Mimesweeper.  But I did not
like the update methods.   Basically wget iirc.

As for Nortons/Symantec, I have to say I do recommend it for large MS based
enterprises, the deployment is a doddle, I have pushed out 1000s of clients
over a night time.

The tree like/cascading configuration for the update servers is also very
good, especially over slow wan links.

Cross platform, I can only say it was good for win98/NT/win2k and Netware,
not so hot for command line, good integration with outlook and Exchange.
Dreadful/non-existant deploy/management for Macs.

AV products are as much to do with upkeep and management as they are
catching virues.

Matt


-Original Message-
From: nate [mailto:debian-user@;aphroland.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2002 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Corporate Anti-virus solutions


Curtis Vaughan said:
> One year ago, our organization was totally MS. So, for our corporate 
> anti-virus product we have been using Norton Anti-virus corporate 
> addition.
>
> Now, our organization is 50/50 linux/ MS. Norton anti-virus is not 
> available for linux, so I'm wondering what other options there may be 
> for a corporate environment, which option is recommended by some of 
> you out there!
>
> Personally, I would like one that would also work with our mail 
> servers (1 exchange server, 1 postfix server).
>
> Currently, all linux machines use clamav, btw.  Maybe this is good 
> enough?


I can't reccomend sophos enough. I've always hated symantec. I don't know
what it is about them that drives chills down my spine but I just can't
stand them.

Sophos is great because they support a diverse selection of platforms,
provide incremental(e.g. 10kb or so) updates, their upgrades are just plain
files, no "smart update" with binary patches to the virus defs like some
other vendors do, so updates are easy to deploy(extract the files..). for
Win32 they have an auto upgrade thing if you have a Win32 server you can
make a "server" install and install the client "versions" on the clients and
have them check for updates ever so often(default is every 10 minutes). When
an update is detected it removes & reinstalls the product automatically(with
or without user interaction depending on your preferences). It allows the
user to postpone an update if they are doing something(again you can
ovveride this as the admin). You can do a "remote" install without being on
the user's system(win2000 computers need the "remote registry editor"
service or whatever its called enabled for it to work). The software will
automatically disable itself after 3 months of no upgrades forcing users to
upgrade, which I think is good, old AV software is a false sense of
security(it will also send a big warning if you try to run it after 3
months, after 1 month it warns you to upgrade saying you have 2 months until
the software stops working or something). I came up with a quick script to
update the server nightly and then the clients would update automatically
each night. worked quite well.

Unix side is even easier, no software to maintain, just use the normal tools
to copy the updated files around(no daemons to restart or anything).
Upgrading the package itself, just copy the files over and run the installer
script(its non interactive so can be run automatically if you wish).

upgrades are available from their website, and they send you a CD each
month. One of the best features is the license, they allow employees of a
company full and unrestricted use of the software on their home computers.
So I put up a website where employees could download the software and use at
home if they wanted. Even freebsd/solaris/linux versions.

the win32 server-client version also has a "admin tool" where you can check
the status of the workstations and servers to see what versions are
installed, what updates are installed, and the status of the
software(running/disabled/etc).

the only real downside is the auto-upgrade for win32 upgrades the whole
installation rather then just a incremental update. This uses a lot of
bandwidth, on a LAN its not an issue for me, but dialup users and stuff can
be caught waiting for a while while it downloads(*) :)

their sales staff is quite knowledgable, and as another added bonus they
have sworn(more or less) to NOT co-operate with the FBI in "not detecting"
the FBI's trojans. Symantec (& I think Mcafee) said at one point they would
not detect the FBI's trojans(I think they later changed their views so that
they would though). Being a UK company Sophos doesn't have as much incentive
to support the FBI. Sophos turned me onto amavis back in 2000, and they do
have people that monitor the amavis mailing list(perhaps other lists too).
The product is quite good, well supported under linux.

The price is

Re: Gvim

[iain d broadfoot]

Russell wrote:

Hi all,

I've been using console-mode vim, but i've heard of a
gui gvim. Is there any debian packages for it? I can't
find any. I just want more control over X colour resources.




apt-get install vim-gtk

iain


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Re: Gvim

[Torrin]

$ apt-get install vim-gtk

That should do the trick.

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 12:47:24PM +1100, Russell wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been using console-mode vim, but i've heard of a
> gui gvim. Is there any debian packages for it? I can't
> find any. I just want more control over X colour resources.
> 
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Spurious interrupt...

[Joey Quevedo]

Hi,

Does anybody know what does this message means:

"Spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7"?

I'm running mgetty on Debian 3.0.

Thanks!

Joey

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Install w/ floppy not working on compaq laptop (armada m700)

[Siinnerr]

Im trying to put debian on my compaq armada m700 and am not having luck here's what i did

i downloaded to a floppy base-1.bin    from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/base-images-3.0.23-2002-07-18/images-1.44/

in the bios of the laptop i set the boot order to: 
1st  multidrive
2nd HD
3rd Ether

then to begin install i tried to boot the laptop (not reboot) from the base 1 bin floppy and it still went straight into windows xp
what am i doing wrong

ive been using debian for almost a year on my home system but have never installed it myself so please speak in laymans terms if possible and with as much direction as possible.  if there is something else i need please tell me what and where

thank you so much for your help

   David

Gvim

[Russell]

Hi all,

I've been using console-mode vim, but i've heard of a
gui gvim. Is there any debian packages for it? I can't
find any. I just want more control over X colour resources.


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Re: Poolng/redundancy in apt's sources.list?

[Barney Wrightson]

Joe Emenaker wrote:


What I'd *love* is if there was some way to group a bunch of "deb ..." 
entries in sources.list together in a group that indicated "These are 
all redundant. If just ONE of these can be reached, that's good enough".
 
Does apt support this kind of thing yet?
 
- Joe

I don't think apt does, but apt-proxy does.

I don't have multiple machines (yet) that need updating, but I still run 
apt-proxy on localhost because it allows this, and uses rsync for 
package files - which can speed up apt-get update quite a bit. It allows 
you to specify multiple hosts in order of preference for each source you 
define. You then point apt at the local host instead of the actual 
server and let apt-proxy sort it out. It makes the download status act a 
little strange in apt, and sometimes a package times out, but I am 
reasonably happy with it.

HTH
Barney


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Re: mail in linux

You can ask the server (if IMAP) for part no. 0 of "HEADER.0" (approx.) and you'll
get your headers (there's a similar command for POP3). The headers themselves do
not indicate KLEZ mails and their variants, for one reason because KLEZ headers
often have innaccurate information about the actual parts of the message.

Furthermore, the headers we are talking here about are only the top level headers
which tell you nothing specific (and nothing at all as for deeper MIME levels)
about the message other than the main MIME part, if the main part is in fact 2
parts, you can learn that fact "multipart/alternative" for example, but that does
not tell you much.

Shyamal Prasad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
>Sandip> moreover, are we not dealing with the threat of viruses
>Sandip> more effectively?
>
>Not really. You are assuming (1) you can determine a virus from
>looking at headers and (2) your MUA is so buggy that a virus will get
>to it (welcome to Linux).
>
>Cheers!
>Shyamal

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Poolng/redundancy in apt's sources.list?

[Joe Emenaker]

Okay, I'm stumped.
 
I used to go directly to ftp.debian.org for my packages. However, I 
started feeling guilty about hammering the central servers, so I started using 
mirrors.
 
The problem with that was that many of the mirrors 
would either be a few days out-of-sync with the central servers or some would be 
down. In general, there'd just be some problem that requred me altering my 
sources.list file every couple of weeks.
 
Then, I started putting multiple mirrors in my 
sources.list. This makes it more reliable when trying to install packages. 
However, when I try to Update the database through dselect, I almost always get 
some sites that can't be reached... causing "apt-get update" to return an error 
code, which causes dselect to decide to not rebuild the "available" 
file.
 
It's kind of a catch-22. The more entries in 
sources.list, the more distributed the load can be and the more chances I have 
of being able to get the package but it also increases the chance that the 
update operation will fail altogether if there's one site that can't be 
reached.
 
What I'd *love* is if there was some way to group a 
bunch of "deb ..." entries in sources.list together in a group that indicated 
"These are all redundant. If just ONE of these can be reached, that's good 
enough". 
 
Does apt support this kind of thing 
yet?
 
- Joe

Re: Configuring soundblaster live value

[lameth]

It's a sound blaster live value PCI. lsmod returns

ModuleSizeused byTainted: P
audio   38432   0 (unused)
emu10k1 55712   1
ac97_codec 9568 0 [emu10k1]
sound  52876   0 [emu10k1]
soundcore   3236 7 [audio emu10k1 sound]

The PnP OS option is off in the bios. Okay the modules are loaded but 
are they configured correctly for the sound card? Should I put io=0x220 
irq=7 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 next to emu10k1 in the /etc/modules file?

Stephen Gran wrote:

This one time, at band camp, lameth said:
 

I'm at a loss. While installing debian probing of my soundblaster live 
value card failed. I've downloaded isapptools and pciutils but I'm not 
sure how to go about configuring the card. I created the file attached 
to this e-mail with the command pcidump > /etc/isapnp.conf.
   


Is it a soundblaster, or a soundblaster live! card?  They use different
kernel modules (sb and emu10k1, I think).  Also, is it ISA or PCI - if
it's a PCI card, isapnp won't be much help.  If it's PCI, make sure the
BIOS has 'PnP OS' (or similar) set to off, and it should set up the
IO/IRQ assignments for you just fine.

HTH,
Steve

 




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Re: /etc/init.d services start/stop question

[Oki DZ]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:46:20AM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
> i just installed shorewall and it made 2 links in /etc/rc2.d
> K99shorewall and S99shorewall. I can see why the S99
> would have to be there. Is the reason of K99 to prevent
> net access for instance when one goes "telinit S"?
> 
> What scripts are called first, K or S?

It should be the one with S and having the lowest number in the directories
(/etc/rc.d). S for start, K for kill (stop). If you boot your system
to single user mode, the scripts executed are the ones in /etc/rcS.d.

Oki


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Re: mail in linux

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:

>> Typically, in such a scenario, you will run fetchmail as a
>> daemon. In my case, it polls my POP mailbox every 5 minutes, 24
>> hours a day, 7 days a week. I never turn off my computer. When
>> I read mail, it is all there on my local machine. Headers and
>> all. Sure, it takes more bandwidth, but I'm not billed for
>> bytes transferred, or the the time I am connected to the
>> network.
>> 
Sandip> and what do lesser mortals, and quite a few of them, who
Sandip> do not have the luxury of always on net connections do?

You could always have fetchmail dial out on demand if you don't mind
the phone bill. I assumed, from your network description, that you had
an always-on connection. But if you don't have this, yes, I agree that
looking at headers might be nice. Use IMAP if you can.

While doing some admin box on a debian machine at work I found a
pop3browser package and the description matches what you want.

Sandip> moreover, are we not dealing with the threat of viruses
Sandip> more effectively?

Not really. You are assuming (1) you can determine a virus from
looking at headers and (2) your MUA is so buggy that a virus will get
to it (welcome to Linux).

Cheers!
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Re: Maximum partition size

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 04:14:09PM -0500, Levi Waldron wrote:
> Thanks.  I submitted a bug report on the installation guide under "general"

In future please use something like install-doc for these. I'll reassign
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Re: two more architectures?

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 03:41:37PM -0800, Torrin wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 05:21:35PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > You get most of the speed increases by recompiling a very small number
> > of things. It's not worth the added complexity trying to do it for
> > everything.
> 
> Which small number of things is that?  We got libc from 1 post.  What
> else?

Random guess: kernel (which anybody halfway serious about performance
does anyway), libc, XFree86, openssl, maybe a few other highly
CPU-intensive things. Anything that hits memory, disk, or other I/O
heavily isn't worth it.

Of course, I haven't done any benchmarks either. :)

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/etc/init.d services start/stop question

[Benedict Verheyen]

Hi,
 
i just installed shorewall and it made 2 links in 
/etc/rc2.d
K99shorewall and S99shorewall. I can see why the 
S99
would have to be there. Is the reason of K99 to 
prevent
net access for instance when one goes "telinit 
S"?
 
What scripts are called first, K or S?
 
Also, the debian reference guide says that all the 
scripts
in /etc/init.d take start, stop, ... as parameters 
to start
stop, the services.
But how does the system specify these when i 
reads
for instance S99shorewall when booting the 
system?
Does it add a "start" parameter to the script when 
it
resolves the link to start the script?
 
Thanks

Re: ipmasq and ftp

[Benedict Verheyen]

- Original Message -
From: "Bob Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "debian users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: ipmasq and ftp

> I had this problem with a 2.4 kernel and iptables.  Normal FTP uses a
> separate connection for data, although if you use passive mode, it will
> work over the main connection.  If I use a 2.2 kernel with ipchains,
> the ip_masq_ftp module, which takes care of the data connection, will
> be installed and there are no problems.
>
> I find the documentation on setting up iptables to be somewhat
> confusing, but I figure I just haven't spent enough time on it yet.
>
> I have a different problem now however.  I configured port forwarding,
> but if a client outside my lan tries to ftp from my server, it only
> works if passive mode is NOT used.
>
> Bob

Hi,

i'm pretty new to iptables too. Problem with linux is that there is so much
stuff to learn and when you want to get a system up and running, it's not
always clear to what one has to do.
I finally got it to work by removing the ipmasq package and installing
shorewall instead. My server used to be a SuSE7?2 system with the
SuSEfirewall 2 script on it. Quite easy to install but no match for the
debian apt-get and shorewall combo. Try it. It took me 30 minutes
to install, going through a sample config. My ftp connection worked
immediately as did the rest.
SSH didn't work but a simple "ACCEPT loc fw tcp ssh" entry in the
/etc/shorewall/rules file solved that. Wow, very impressive.

Only problem i still have is that when i log on to the system say
on ttys1 for instance, that i get log messages of unauthorized access.
The shorewall faq said this on it:

"16. Shorewall is writing log messages all over my console making it
unusable!
Answer: "man dmesg" -- add a suitable 'dmesg' command to your startup
scripts or place it in /etc/shorewall/start. Under RedHat, the max log level
that is sent to the console is specified in /etc/sysconfig/init in the
LOGLEVEL variable."

But i don't know how to do this.
I think adding dmesg -n 1 to the /etc/init.d/shorewall script would
solve that but i'm not sure.

Another thing i noticed is that there is a K99shorewall and a S99shorewall
link in /etc/rc2.d
No other programs seems to have both a kill and start service link in here.



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Re: portfw timeout

[nate]

Thomas Halahan said:
>

> Suggestions welcome and very appreciated...
>

are you testing it from outside the firewall? my experience, many
things with port forwarding fail to look like they "work" if your
trying to connect from the system doing the forwarding or from
a system that is doing NAT for a machine doing the forwarding.

try connecting to the service from outside the firewall(perhaps another
mahcine on the same subnet as the firewall) to see what happens.
or ask someone you know to telnet to the port and see what response they
get.

nate




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portfw timeout

[Thomas Halahan]

(apologies if already sent - my mails never seem to arrrive or am i 
impatient?)

Hi,

Running 2.2 kernel with ipchains etc.. firewall setup.  Have got a simple
firewall and have tried both the ipmasq package and a simple firewall builder
GUI called firestarter (seems pretty good for my requirements).

The problem I am having, after successfully compiling and installing the
ip_masq_portfw module, is that the port forwarding is timeing out (despite
clearly listening for connections on the fw port).

I have an ADSL modem with ip EXT_IP and a machine (not the firewall) with
internal ip INT_IP and have configured port forwarding as seems pretty
standard for a web server as follows

ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L EXT_IP 80 -R INT_IP 8081
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P udp -L EXT_IP 80 -R INT_IP 8081

(tomcat server as the target).

When I issue the commands above I can tell that forwarding has partially
started as my browser pointing to http://EXT_IP:80 continues to attempt to
load the site (before issueing the portfw commands the browser comes straight
back with unable to connect to host).

If I issue a lsmod I can see the module is being used.

I cannot find any logging.

Have played with hosts.allow and hosts.deny.

Finally I tried a "$ telnet EXT_IP 80" and which stayed in a waiting to
connect state.

Any ideas why I might be getting timeouts?  Clearly something in the chain is
not passing on reuqests.

Suggestions welcome and very appreciated...

Tom


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portfw timeout

[Thomas]

Hi,

Running 2.2 kernel with ipchains etc.. firewall setup.  Have got a simple 
firewall and have tried both the ipmasq package and a simple firewall builder 
GUI called firestarter (seems pretty good for my requirements).  

The problem I am having, after successfully compiling and installing the 
ip_masq_portfw module, is that the port forwarding is timeing out (despite 
clearly listening for connections on the fw port).

I have an ADSL modem with ip EXT_IP and a machine (not the firewall) with 
internal ip INT_IP and have configured port forwarding as seems pretty 
standard for a web server as follows

ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L EXT_IP 80 -R INT_IP 8081
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P udp -L EXT_IP 80 -R INT_IP 8081

(tomcat server as the target).

When I issue the commands above I can tell that forwarding has partially 
started as my browser pointing to http://EXT_IP:80 continues to attempt to 
load the site (before issueing the portfw commands the browser comes straight 
back with unable to connect to host).

If I issue a lsmod I can see the module is being used.  

I cannot find any logging.

Have played with hosts.allow and hosts.deny.

Finally I tried a "$ telnet EXT_IP 80" and which stayed in a waiting to 
connect state.

Any ideas why I might be getting timeouts?  Clearly something in the chain is 
not passing on reuqests.

Suggestions welcome and very appreciated...

Tom


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Re: Corporate Anti-virus solutions

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya

here's all ( that we know of )  the antivirus stuff
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/antivirus.gwif.html

i was looking for the symantec version for linux ...
( guess i should go look for it again
( yes.. they have a (free?) linux-version too

and dont forget your spam filters too
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/antispam.gwif.html

-- btw... 80% of our spam is /dev/null'd due to their bad headers:-)

wonder where are the "comparasons" are between various
antivirus apps  and antispams

c ya
alvin

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Curtis Vaughan wrote:

> One year ago, our organization was totally MS. So, for our corporate 
> anti-virus product we have been using Norton Anti-virus corporate addition.
> 
> Now, our organization is 50/50 linux/ MS. Norton anti-virus is not 
> available for linux, so I'm wondering what other options there may be 
> for a corporate environment, which option is recommended by some of you 
> out there!
> 
> Personally, I would like one that would also work with our mail servers 
> (1 exchange server, 1 postfix server).
> 
> Currently, all linux machines use clamav, btw.  Maybe this is good enough?
> 


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Re: two more architectures?

[Torrin]

On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 05:21:35PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> You get most of the speed increases by recompiling a very small number
> of things. It's not worth the added complexity trying to do it for
> everything.
> 
Which small number of things is that?  We got libc from 1 post.  What
else?

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Re: XServer

[Jeff]

Guilherme A. Mendes, 2002-Oct-28 15:03 -0200:
>Hi everyone,
> 
>This is my first message here...I hope I can learn and teach with you !
>Well, I installed Debian 3.0 and the basic sytem. So, I downloaded the
>XServer with tasksel. During the download, no problems, but when I tried
>to start the xserver I got an error : "AddInit error on driver 0".
> 
>Then I tried to set it up again with dpkg-reconfigure and it didn't work
>out, I got the same error.
>My video card is a Intel i810, LG Monitor 15 Inches.
> 
>How may fix it ?
>Thanks for all.

You can have XFree86 create a config file based on the detection of
the devices.  Run as root, "XFree86 -configure".  It may not find the
mouse correctly, to check the generated config file for that.  Also,
you may need to install a few packages to help detect the hardware,
such as discover and mdetect.

jc

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Re: Eterm font error

[Jeff]

Eduardo Gargiulo, 2002-Oct-28 11:56 -0300:
> Hi all
> 
> I'd installed eterm, but when i try to run i get the following error
> 
> $ Eterm 
> Eterm:  Error:  Unable to load font 
>"-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1".
> Falling back on "k14"
> Eterm:  FATAL:  Couldn't load the fallback font either.  Giving up.
> 
> I was playing with switch to change X fonts, but that font isn't which
> i've choosen. How can I fix this?

The first thing I'd check is to see if the font is installed.  Do
"dpkg -l | grep font" and check for defoma, xfonts-base,
xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi.  I don't know what font package that font
comes from, but I suspect xfonts-base.

You can use gtkfontsel to view all the fonts installed.

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Re: pcmcia stops working on 2.2.20 to 2.4.19 upgrade

[Eric Richardson]

Hi Kevin,

Now you should use yenta_socket and the tulip driver. tulip_cb is no 
longer needed.

Hope this helps,

Eric

Kevin Coyner wrote:

I've got an older IBM 560X laptop that I recently put Debian 2.2.20 on.
The pcmcia card that I got to work was a Netgear FA511 ethernet.  Once I
got it all working and the pcmcia/ethernet connected to the internet, I
decided to do an upgrade of the kernel from 2.2.20 to 2.4.19.  So I
apt-get install'd:

kernel-image-2.4.19-386
kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.29-386

The DL and install went without a hitch.  I made the minor LILO edits
needed, and fired up the new kernel.  The system started up fine, except
for the fact that I lost the pcmcia.

So I'm wondering what 2.2.20 had in it that 2.4.19 doesn't?

I've compared lsmod for both kernels, and have found that the following
mods are not present in 2.4.19, but are present in 2.2.20:

tulip_cb
cb_enabler
ds
i82365

While in 2.4.19, I've tried insmod tulip_cb and cb_enabler, but both
generate the error message "can't locate module".  I suspect I need
these to get it working under 2.4.19.  I also kind of thought they'd be
in the kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.19-386 package, but perhaps not.
How/where do I get and install them?

Under 2.4.19, I also check /var/log/syslog and noted the following
entries:

Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22
	options :[pci][cardbus][pm]
ds: no socket drivers loaded
cardmgr[224]: starting, version is 3.1.33
cardmgr[224]: no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices
cardmgr[224]: exiting

Looking for a little help deciphering these clues.  Probably pretty
obvious to many, but not so to someone like me that is still climbing up
the curve (and loving it). Thanks.

Kevin







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Re: Corporate Anti-virus solutions

[nate]

Curtis Vaughan said:
> One year ago, our organization was totally MS. So, for our corporate
> anti-virus product we have been using Norton Anti-virus corporate
> addition.
>
> Now, our organization is 50/50 linux/ MS. Norton anti-virus is not
> available for linux, so I'm wondering what other options there may be
> for a corporate environment, which option is recommended by some of you
> out there!
>
> Personally, I would like one that would also work with our mail servers
> (1 exchange server, 1 postfix server).
>
> Currently, all linux machines use clamav, btw.  Maybe this is good
> enough?


I can't reccomend sophos enough. I've always hated symantec. I don't
know what it is about them that drives chills down my spine but I
just can't stand them.

Sophos is great because they support a diverse selection of platforms,
provide incremental(e.g. 10kb or so) updates, their upgrades are
just plain files, no "smart update" with binary patches to the virus
defs like some other vendors do, so updates are easy to deploy(extract
the files..). for Win32 they have an auto upgrade thing if you have a
Win32 server you can make a "server" install and install the client
"versions" on the clients and have them check for updates ever so
often(default is every 10 minutes). When an update is detected it
removes & reinstalls the product automatically(with or without user
interaction depending on your preferences). It allows the user to
postpone an update if they are doing something(again you can ovveride
this as the admin). You can do a "remote" install without being on
the user's system(win2000 computers need the "remote registry editor"
service or whatever its called enabled for it to work). The software
will automatically disable itself after 3 months of no upgrades forcing
users to upgrade, which I think is good, old AV software is a false
sense of security(it will also send a big warning if you try to run
it after 3 months, after 1 month it warns you to upgrade saying you
have 2 months until the software stops working or something). I came
up with a quick script to update the server nightly and then the clients
would update automatically each night. worked quite well.

Unix side is even easier, no software to maintain, just use the normal
tools to copy the updated files around(no daemons to restart or
anything). Upgrading the package itself, just copy the files over
and run the installer script(its non interactive so can be run
automatically if you wish).

upgrades are available from their website, and they send you a CD
each month. One of the best features is the license, they allow employees
of a company full and unrestricted use of the software on their home
computers. So I put up a website where employees could download the
software and use at home if they wanted. Even freebsd/solaris/linux
versions.

the win32 server-client version also has a "admin tool" where you
can check the status of the workstations and servers to see what
versions are installed, what updates are installed, and the status
of the software(running/disabled/etc).

the only real downside is the auto-upgrade for win32 upgrades the
whole installation rather then just a incremental update. This
uses a lot of bandwidth, on a LAN its not an issue for me, but dialup
users and stuff can be caught waiting for a while while it downloads(*) :)

their sales staff is quite knowledgable, and as another added bonus
they have sworn(more or less) to NOT co-operate with the FBI in
"not detecting" the FBI's trojans. Symantec (& I think Mcafee) said
at one point they would not detect the FBI's trojans(I think they
later changed their views so that they would though). Being a UK
company Sophos doesn't have as much incentive to support the
FBI. Sophos turned me onto amavis back in 2000, and they do have
people that monitor the amavis mailing list(perhaps other lists
too). The product is quite good, well supported under linux.

The price is not bad either, compared to Mcafee at least. I think
when I re-purchased it earlier this year for, 50 users I think,
for their full blown package(server+client), it was about 60% cheaper
then Symantec(on the desktop) and Sophos(on the mail server) was a
year earlier(part of that was major downsizing so we didn't have a
need for as many licenses).


(*) you could come up with your own method to upgrade incrementally
if you wanted I am certain of it, the auto upgrader does not
distinguish between incremental upgrades and version upgrades, everything
is considered a version upgrade. This could be advantageous incase
somehow the software got trojaned, having a new installation may
be "cleaner" in some cases.




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RE: Corporate Anti-virus solutions

[Joyce, Matthew]

http://www.fprot.org

http://www.kaspersky.com/products.html?ftype=20896

Matt


-Original Message-
From: Curtis Vaughan [mailto:curtis@;npc-usa.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2002 10:00 AM
To: Debian User List
Subject: Corporate Anti-virus solutions


One year ago, our organization was totally MS. So, for our corporate 
anti-virus product we have been using Norton Anti-virus corporate addition.

Now, our organization is 50/50 linux/ MS. Norton anti-virus is not 
available for linux, so I'm wondering what other options there may be 
for a corporate environment, which option is recommended by some of you 
out there!

Personally, I would like one that would also work with our mail servers 
(1 exchange server, 1 postfix server).

Currently, all linux machines use clamav, btw.  Maybe this is good enough?

Curtis


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Corporate Anti-virus solutions

[Curtis Vaughan]

One year ago, our organization was totally MS. So, for our corporate 
anti-virus product we have been using Norton Anti-virus corporate addition.

Now, our organization is 50/50 linux/ MS. Norton anti-virus is not 
available for linux, so I'm wondering what other options there may be 
for a corporate environment, which option is recommended by some of you 
out there!

Personally, I would like one that would also work with our mail servers 
(1 exchange server, 1 postfix server).

Currently, all linux machines use clamav, btw.  Maybe this is good enough?

Curtis


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subversion packages

[Alan Chandler]

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As far as I can work out the subversion 0.14.3-3 package is newer than 
subversion-snapshot 3397-1 (by one day)

However, there does not seem to be a 0.14.3 version of subversion-tools only 
one related to the 3397 snapshot.

In particular the script "svn_load_dirs.pl" refered to in the handbook for 
importing directories or vendor updates is within this tools package and but 
the package cannot be loaded with the 0.14.3 main package.

Is there a particular reason why there is not a subversion-tools 0.14.3 
package?
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Re: [SOLVED] Re: Desktop launchs recent programs when logging in

[Rob Weir]

On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 07:31:23PM +0100, Mariano Kamp wrote:
> Anyway, I am still puzzled that my grep didn't return anything.

Have a look at ~/.gnome/session

-rob



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Re: /dev/dsp problem

[Seneca]

Please keep replies on the list.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 02:56:58PM +0200, Martin Batermann wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:48:47 -0500
>  Seneca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 10:34:49AM +0200, Martin
> > Batermann wrote:
> > > I have a sound driver problem.  When I try to start the
> > > sound server (via KDE's Preferences -> Sound -> Sound
> > > Server), it gives me a message:  Error wile
> > initializing
> > > the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No
> > such
> > > device).
> > > 
> > > I would appreciate any advice on solving this problem.
> > 
> > Is your sound driver loaded? Use /sbin/lsmod to find out
> > what drivers
> > are loaded, and if your sound drivers are not loaded,
> > find out what
> > they are, and modprobe $DRIVER.
> > 
> 
> /sbin/lsmod gives a list of 10 drivers and the only one
> that looks like its got something to do with sound is
> "soundcore".  The others listed, are r128, apm, nls_cp437,
> ntfs, keybdev, usbkbd, input, usb-uhci and usbcore.

soundcore is the only one from that list that has to do with sound. The
question is, which sound driver should you load? What is your soundcard?

> When you say modprobe $DRIVER, I assume that $DRIVER should
> be replaced by the actual driver name (e.g. soundcore).  Is
> that correct?

That is correct.

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Re: Problems with internet browsing

[Jeff]

Joyce, Matthew, 2002-Oct-28 18:08 +1100:
> You can try to ping a host by hostname, one that is not in you hosts file.
> If DNS is working ping with use and display the ip address.
> 
> Also look at the 'nslookup' or 'dig' util.

You can also test dns with host:

$ host -v www.yahoo.com
Query about www.yahoo.com for record types A
Trying www.yahoo.com ...
Query done, 13 answers, status: no error
The following answer is not authoritative:
www.yahoo.com   1791IN  CNAME   www.yahoo.akadns.net
www.yahoo.akadns.net151 IN  A   64.58.76.230
www.yahoo.akadns.net151 IN  A   64.58.76.176
www.yahoo.akadns.net151 IN  A   64.58.76.177
www.yahoo.akadns.net151 IN  A   64.58.76.178
www.yahoo.akadns.net151 IN  A   64.58.76.179
www.yahoo.akadns.net151 IN  A   64.58.76.222
www.yahoo.akadns.net151 IN  A   64.58.76.223
www.yahoo.akadns.net151 IN  A   64.58.76.224


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Re: Speed

[nick lidakis]

C. Brewer wrote:



The following may be unappetizing to trolls:

- From power on to KDE-

Mandrake 8.1=1min 52secs
RedHat 7.1= 1min 35secs
Debian 3.0= 47secs

(with setups as close as possible by distro)

 


Debian Unstabe 32 seconds to XDM (with having to press enter at the lilo 
multi-boot prompt).
This using a Soltek 75DRV5-C motherboard and an athlon xp-1600.


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Re: Speed

[nick lidakis]

nate wrote:


C. Brewer said:

 

Debian 3.0= 47secs
   


not sure what kinda computer you have but i don't even get to
my LILO prompt for at least 30 seconds from power on.

nate




 

I just purchased a Solek 75drv5-c motherboard. One of the reasons I 
settled on this board were for it's insanley fast POST to OS load times. 
This board gives me a LILO boot screen in 1.5 seconds flat. The award 
BIOS logo is just a blur. Compare this to my 20-25 sec tyan motherbaord 
post and bios check. Works great with debian too, it's a VIA KT333 chipset.



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Re: OT: Re: questions about a Free Software Symposium presentation

[John Hasler]

csj writes:
> I think you're thinking of evolution.

I think you're both confounding Catholics and Baptists.

I agree that Catholicism and science are incompatible, but the Catholic
Church does not.
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Re: no cd-sound but es1370 works

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 the mental interface of 
Christian Mascher told:

> John Keniry wrote:

> > Some versions of Windows play the CD by reading the data through
> > the IDE channel, rather than using the soundcard->CDrom cable. I
> > don't know whether this is true of Win98 but you could check the
> > cable is connected.
> 
> Interesting. You did make me open my computer to have a look, as I
> wasn't that sure myself ;-) 
> 
> The cable is connected though.
> 
> 
> Elimar Riesebieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> suggested:

> > Make sure you're member of groups audio and cdrom.
> 
> OK, I added these to my personal account in /etc/group. Still, I
> was trying cd-playing as root all the time (not very good, I
> know), but then I suppose group membership should not be an issue.
> If it works with root and not for J. Doe User, then I knew its a
> permissions problem ...  Seems not to be that alone. Although, as
> non-root user I _do_ get "permission denied" for /dev/hdd (which
> is my CDROM). How can I fix that? I am in the cdrom group, which
> owners ought to have /dev/hdd (/dev/cdrom is a symlink to it)?
> 
> 
> Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > > Make sure you're member of groups audio and cdrom.
> 
> > I believe he is, as he can hear some sounds, and can cat to
> > /dev/dsp.  It sounds like your mixer settings are too low, if
> > everything is really quiet.  Try `apt-cache search mixer` to see
> > a list of available mixers, so you can raise and lower volume
> > settings.  I use aumixer, but YMMV.

$ ls -al /dev/cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root 4 Oct 25 19:05 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
brw-rw   1 root  cdrom  11,   0 Nov  4  2001 /dev/scd0
^^   ^
Your cdrom dev must be set like the above permissions. /dev/cdrom =
/dev /hd? by useing ide. I am using ide-scsi emulation. That's why
it is pointed to /dev/scd0

> 
> I wasn't, but I was root then (see above).  I actually installed
> aumixer already. Could there be a conflict with another mixer
> around (from the base install)?

No!

> I'm still clueless. Could be that I mucked up my devices during
> the install (I had to do MAKEDEV once). And I don't understand the
> logic behind the audio and cdrom groups. Can't I just put option
> user in fstab for /cdrom? And what is audio group for?

see above ;-)

Ciao

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Re: ssh broadcasts package name???

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 04:34:38PM -0500, Paul Smith wrote:
> %% Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   ds> Quick and easy way to convince them: "Really?  How's about I stand
>   ds> here and watch you exploit it."  Shouldn't take more than 5-10
>   ds> minutes of banging their head against your server to realize that
>   ds> no, it's not vulnerable.
> 
> You obviously don't understand the corporate IT mindset :)--it's not up
> to them to prove your system is vulnerable, it's up to _you_ to prove
> that it isn't.
> 
> If they think it's vulnerable or don't believe you they'll just
> blacklist it from the network and you're SOL.  They have all the power,
> because they control the network (routers/switches/firewalls/etc.)

No, I just missed that it was the IS department claiming to have
found a vulnerability and assumed it was an outside vendor.  ("You
want me to buy your services to fix the problem?  OK, but first prove
that there is a problem to fix.")  I agree that this technique
wouldn't work in the case you're talking about.

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Re: cvs disaster recovery

[Dave Sherohman]

On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 06:53:06PM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> Before anyone brings it up, I know there should have been backups of the
> CVS repository. That said, I am in the following situation:
> 
> 1) Machine alpha, which had the CVS repository, is temporarily
>unavailable (in a policy, rather than technical, sense).

You have my sympathy.  In a previous life, I got to deal with a CVS
server that died with no good backups.  Fortunately, I wasn't
responsible for admin there, so neither the hardware failure nor the
bad backups were attributed to me.  Unfortunately, I was the one who
pushed CVS and used it most heavily, so I got blamed for schedule
slippage when I had to spend time rebuilding the CVS repository
instead of writing code.

> Is there any way to accomplish this? Do I have to give up and simply
> import the entire codebase as if it were a new project?

You're going to have to set up a (hopefully) temporary repository to
use until alpha becomes available.  If alpha is completely
unavailable (as opposed to simply not being able to use its CVS
repository), it'll make your life a lot easier if you tweak either
DNS or /etc/hosts to associate alpha's name with the temporary CVS
server's IP address; if you can't do this, you'll need to update
CVS/Root in every CVS-managed directory *of the new master copy*.
("New master copy" being the copy you initially import to the new
repository.)

Then you'll need to import the master copy, check it out on each
development station, and copy all the modified files from the exiting
CVS client trees into the new ones and check them in, which will
start the new version trail.  Just be sure not to copy the CVS
subdirectories over to the new tree, since they'll still have version
info from the old tree.

If alpha should become available again and you still want to switch
back to it, you'll need to commit everything to the new repository,
check out a fresh copy from alpha, use `cvs export` to get a current
copy from the new repository without CVS subdirectories, `cp -r` the
exported tree onto the fresh tree from alpha, and commit it.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some memories to re-repress...

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Re: ssh broadcasts package name???

[Paul Smith]

%% Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  ds> On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 04:58:09PM -0700, nate wrote:

  >> tripped dozens of rules in my IDS and came back to me pissing their
  >> pants saying my SSH was vulnerable because it wasn't the absolute newest,
  >> took some time to convince them(had to talk to one of their engineers
  >> who understood what backporting was) that we were not vulnerable to the
  >> specific things they were probing for.

  ds> Quick and easy way to convince them: "Really?  How's about I stand
  ds> here and watch you exploit it."  Shouldn't take more than 5-10
  ds> minutes of banging their head against your server to realize that
  ds> no, it's not vulnerable.

You obviously don't understand the corporate IT mindset :)--it's not up
to them to prove your system is vulnerable, it's up to _you_ to prove
that it isn't.

If they think it's vulnerable or don't believe you they'll just
blacklist it from the network and you're SOL.  They have all the power,
because they control the network (routers/switches/firewalls/etc.)

Of course, given the average level of understanding of these things in a
corporate IT environment I'd be very surprised if many of them would
look at the Debian extended version string and go "oh, yeah, Debian has
a patched version; that's fine" so I'm not sure how much _immediate_
help it is anyway.

But, at least you can point them at the appropriate security alerts and
responses on the Debian web site and have some semblance of an argument
to back you up.

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Re: exim reject most of a domain

[Michael West]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:44:52PM +, Alan Chandler wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Monday 28 October 2002 7:21 pm, Michael West wrote:
> >  How would I configure exim to reject most of a domain?
> >
> >  I have read the exim spec on host_reject, sender_reject,
> >  host_reject_recipients etc, but am not sure.
> >
> >  If I want to reject all mail from aol except for mail from one
> >  account I think it might be:
> >
> >  sender_reject ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] : aol.com
> >
> >  Does this look right?  How do I test it?
> 
> ?
> 
> exim -bt -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

This appears to be the right way to test it.
But I cannot get exim to reject anyone, even with:

sender_reject = *

and host_reject does not offer localpart control.  I have been through
the manpage and the exim spec and can figure this out.  
More help would be helpful.

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  Michael


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Re: OT: Re: questions about a Free Software Symposium presentation

[csj]

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:43:11 -0400
Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  On Sunday 27 October 2002 08:43 pm, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
>  > On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Alvin Oga wrote:
>  > > i like to argue with him (in person), why one can believe in god
>  > > and yet be scientific about engineering/sciences   :-)
>  >
>  > Why is that a problem?
> 
>  That depends. Apparently, Astronomy and Catholicism do not combine.
> 
>  Oleg

I think you're thinking of evolution. The last conflict with astronomy
probably died with Galileo.


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Re: Maximum partition size

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 15:44, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Levi Waldron said:
> > Is this an outdated statement from the Debian installation guide?
> > From:  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-partitioning.en.html#s6.4
> > 
> > "Based on limitations in how ext2 works, avoid any single partition greater 
> > than 6GB or so. "
> 
> steve@gashuffer:~$ df -H
> Filesystem Size   Used  Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda1 144MB   33MB  104MB  24% /
> /dev/hda3 5.0GB  1.5GB  3.3GB  32% /usr
> /dev/hda5 2.0GB  211MB  1.7GB  12% /var
> /dev/hda6  32GB  4.9GB   25GB  17% /home
> hadrian:/usr/share/music/
>40GB   14GB   25GB  36% /home/mp3
> hadrian:/home  13GB  2.5GB  9.4GB  21% /usr/share/Server
> 
> Never had any problems.  
> 
> Steve
> -- 
> If you are good, you will be assigned all the work.  If you are real
> good, you will get out of it.

I wonder if that is something to do with fsck - I know that on really
large partitions, it can take "bloody well forever", partly due to the
amount of data it appears to need to work through things -
disproportionately longer than some smaller partitions.
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Re: ssh broadcasts package name???

[Dave Sherohman]

On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 04:58:09PM -0700, nate wrote:
> tripped dozens of rules in my IDS and came back to me pissing their
> pants saying my SSH was vulnerable because it wasn't the absolute newest,
> took some time to convince them(had to talk to one of their engineers
> who understood what backporting was) that we were not vulnerable to the
> specific things they were probing for.

Quick and easy way to convince them:  "Really?  How's about I stand
here and watch you exploit it."  Shouldn't take more than 5-10
minutes of banging their head against your server to realize that no,
it's not vulnerable.

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Re: hp keyboard

[Marc Nozell]

On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 11:00, Alexey Chetroi wrote:
>  Hello All,
> 
> I have a HP keyboard which has some additional keys like sleep, info, mute, volume 
>up, volume down, TopTools, www etc. I'd like to use them with my wm (WindoMaker), but 
>Wprefs doesn't capture these keys for keyboard shortcuts. if I run xev, I see 
>keycodes for these keys but not the keysyms. 
> 
>  Where should I look at?

Try using LinEAK (Linux support for Easy Access and Internet Keyboards)

apt-get install lineakd lineakconfig

Works fine for my Compaq Armada M700.

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Re: Missing readme for icecast

[Jon-o Addleman]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 05:57:43AM -0800, Leo Spalteholz spake thusly:
 
> Yes.  Well I've tried everything...
> 
> One thing I noticed was that the output from makepasswd changes all 
> the time for the same cleartext pass. 
> Is it supposed to be doing that?

Umm. I think so. Mine did that too anyway. Not sure how it actually
works.

I expect you're having troubles because of the client - maybe not. But
have you tried connecting to the server by just telnetting in?

-telnet to whatever port icecast is running on, and then type

ADMIN password


(the two enters are mandatory)

If that works, then you know the password setup and encryption is fine,
and there's a problem with your source.

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Maximum partition size

[Levi Waldron]

> Is this an outdated statement from the Debian installation guide?
> > From:  
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-partitioning.en.html#s6.4
> > 
> > "Based on limitations in how ext2 works, avoid any single partition 
greater 
> > than 6GB or so. "

> steve@gashuffer:~$ df -H
> Filesystem Size   Used  Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda1 144MB   33MB  104MB  24% /
> /dev/hda3 5.0GB  1.5GB  3.3GB  32% /usr
> /dev/hda5 2.0GB  211MB  1.7GB  12% /var
> /dev/hda6  32GB  4.9GB   25GB  17% /home
> hadrian:/usr/share/music/
   40GB   14GB   25GB  36% /home/mp3
> hadrian:/home  13GB  2.5GB  9.4GB  21% /usr/share/Server
> 
> Never had any problems.  
> 
> Steve
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Thanks.  I submitted a bug report on the installation guide under "general"


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Re: Zwiki & zwiki.zexp

[Jon-o Addleman]

On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 04:17:45PM -0800, nate spake thusly:
> hi
> 
> by the suggestion of karsten(I think thats his name) I decided to
> try to migrate my LDAP documentation to Wikki, and I will be doing
> my MRTG docs in Wikki too(or at least try, to see how it works).
> I chose Zwiki (Zope+Wiki) since it was packaged for debian, and
> the normal wiki does not appear to be.

The "normal" wiki? Which is that? There's a lot of wiki's out there...
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines lists about 50, of which at least 3-4
are part of debian unstable. (PHPWiki, ZWiki, twiki, and the one I'm
using, usemod-wiki, maybe some others too).

I tried zwiki too, but it seemed to be quite a pain to set up, since it
depends on such an extensive framework, with all the zope stuff. I gave
up pretty quickly and settled on the simplest one that I found -
usemod-wiki. It lacks a lot of features that you might want though.

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Re: ipmasq and ftp

[Bob Nielsen]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:08:43PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> yesterday i installed woody 3.0 (testing/unstable) on my server.
> I then installed ipmasq so it's able to share the cable connection.
> For the moment all works well except for ftp: i get this error in
> my ftp program:
> "Error opening data socket"
> Does anybody know what rule (for a .rul file) i can add to make sure
> i'm able to open an ftp connection via my server?

I had this problem with a 2.4 kernel and iptables.  Normal FTP uses a
separate connection for data, although if you use passive mode, it will
work over the main connection.  If I use a 2.2 kernel with ipchains,
the ip_masq_ftp module, which takes care of the data connection, will
be installed and there are no problems.

I find the documentation on setting up iptables to be somewhat
confusing, but I figure I just haven't spent enough time on it yet.

I have a different problem now however.  I configured port forwarding,
but if a client outside my lan tries to ftp from my server, it only
works if passive mode is NOT used.

Bob


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Re: gtk1 themes and gnome2

I "ported" a bunch of gtk+ themes to gtk2 so I could have the same look. I use a
simple sh script to change the .gtkrc file. I know you don't use rpm but if you
extract the files you get the all the themes, use it like a tarball, put them where
you need them. I explain in the .spec files (also there) where the files go and
what I did to "port" them and how I am not the author of the themes, I just hacked
them to work with gtk2. Sorry my bandwith is limited so I only put up these rpm
files.

These themes provide the gtk2 counterparts for gtk1 themes from "gtk-engines"
http://www.dudex.net/rpms/gtk2-engines-compat-1.0-aap1.noarch.rpm

Pack of GTK+ themes and their "Ported" GTK2 (Gnome2) counterparts
http://www.dudex.net/rpms/gtk1+2-themez-1.1-aap1.noarch.rpm

Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
>
>Michael Schulze wrote:
>
>> i have installed gnome 2 from experimental. now i want to change the
>> gtk1 theme to match the gtk2 theme, but the gnome 2 control center has
>> replaced gnomecc from gnome1 and i don't know where else to change the
>> gtk1 theme.
>>
>> does anyone know how to change the gtk1 theme when using gnome2 ?
>
>Hmm... Well, if you can't find a handy GUI for the job, you could always
>edit ~/.gtkrc directly. It's pretty simple. The first line usually looks
>like this:
>
>include "/usr/share/themes/Raleigh/gtk/gtkrc"
>
>and you can just change that to whatever you want.
>
>There is also a Debian package called gtk-theme-switch that provides
>some sort of simple GUI for theme selection. I've never used it, so I
>can't say much about it.
>
>Craig
>
>
>

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Re: Maximum partition size

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, Levi Waldron said:
> Is this an outdated statement from the Debian installation guide?
> From:  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-partitioning.en.html#s6.4
> 
> "Based on limitations in how ext2 works, avoid any single partition greater 
> than 6GB or so. "

steve@gashuffer:~$ df -H
Filesystem Size   Used  Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 144MB   33MB  104MB  24% /
/dev/hda3 5.0GB  1.5GB  3.3GB  32% /usr
/dev/hda5 2.0GB  211MB  1.7GB  12% /var
/dev/hda6  32GB  4.9GB   25GB  17% /home
hadrian:/usr/share/music/
   40GB   14GB   25GB  36% /home/mp3
hadrian:/home  13GB  2.5GB  9.4GB  21% /usr/share/Server

Never had any problems.  

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Please Help

[Siinnerr]

I am new to this all and i am having trouble making a boot disk to do an initial install
of debian on a laptop (Compaq armada m700 w/ floppy drive)
please write or call me i need help
310-792-1934

Re: Re: /etc/network/interfaces

[Chris Jenks]

At 09:45 AM 10/28/02, you wrote:

Hallo again,

My really question was:
It could be an other file to insert the different gateways/destination/netmask
but I am not sure.
Lot of the routing address have the same interface (eth0) but different
gateways/destination/netmask.

This is not content of "man interfaces", through this reason I need your help!

Maik G.


I think what you are looking for is the route command. Try man route.


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Re: /etc/network/interfaces

[David Z Maze]

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It could be an other file to insert the different
> gateways/destination/netmask but I am not sure.  Lot of the routing
> address have the same interface (eth0) but different
> gateways/destination/netmask.

That sounds like you want to use "IP aliasing":

iface eth0 inet static
address 10.0.1.47
netmask 255.255.240.0
broadcast 10.0.15.255
gateway 10.0.0.1

iface eth0:1 inet static
address 192.168.17.17
netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 192.168.17.255

This setup will have packets to both local networks (10.0.0.0/20 and
192.168.17.0/24) go out over the wire attached to eth0; packets going
further in the world go via 10.0.0.1.

Any setup more complicated than this involves setting up real routing
tables, and/or having multiple physical interfaces.  You can use an
'up' command to add an extra route:

up route add -net 192.168.18.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.17.18

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Realplayer and xmms problem .

[suresh kumar sharma]

Hi,
I have ALSA sound on my laptop.
1) I am having problems playing some .ram and .rm file
on
Realplayer,some of them play fine but others gives a
very distorted output .
typicaly it plays anything with 32 Kbps but 34Kbps and
16Kbps don't play properly , they come out distorted .
can anybosy please help .

2) I had xmms before I got realplayer but after
installing realplayer xmms doesn't play any audio
files properly output is very distorted again
something to do with bit rate .

thanks in advance
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Maximum partition size

[Levi Waldron]

Is this an outdated statement from the Debian installation guide?
From:  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-partitioning.en.html#s6.4

"Based on limitations in how ext2 works, avoid any single partition greater 
than 6GB or so. "


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Re: GTK+ Apps

[David Z Maze]

"Wathen, Metherion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What is required to install GTK+ apps on a system?

Strictly speaking, the libgtk1.2 package and its dependencies.  More
loosely, APT.  :-)

> Do you need to have Gnome installed as your desktop?

No.

> Can you just install GTK+?

Yes.  (Well, and also Glib, since that's a dependency.)

> If certain dependencies are needed (i.e. lib... , or lib.so) where do you
> find them?

On the Debian archive, along with everything else.

> If you have .deb pkgs do you just run dpkg  to install
> them?

'dpkg --install filename.deb'; see dpkg(8) or run 'dpkg --help'.

For basic application installation, though, lots and lots of things
are packaged in Debian.  I'd recommend doing the following:

  (1) Install aptitude, if you don't already have it.  Run 'apt-get
  update', then 'apt-get install aptitude'.

  (2) Start aptitude by running 'aptitude'.  Press / to search; you
  can type in "package-name", or "~dsomething" to search for
  "something" in the package descriptions.  \ will repeat the last
  search.  If you find a package you want, press "+" to install
  it.  Pressing "g" twice will then install the things you've
  selected.

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Re: 386 or 486 machine

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 09:18:19PM +0400, Andrei Smirnov wrote:
| OK - i see it can be installed ... but with no less than 16 meg of RAM

One technique (which I used because at the time I didn't have
sufficient network resources and the BIOS was too old to boot from a
CD) is to pull the hard drive out of the [34]86 and put it in a newer
machine.  Run through the install on the beefy hardware (taking care
to install all network, etc, drivers you'll need on the other
machine), then move the hard drive back.

-D

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but the wicked have their fill of trouble.
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