upgrading postgres on unstable

[Monique Y. Herman]

Time to admit the sorry truth ... at the time that I switched from RH to
Debian several years ago, my Debian install's version of postgres was
older than the version I'd compiled on RH, and consequently I had to
install from source to get postgres 7.0 functionality.

I um ... *blush* ... well, I haven't upgraded postgres since.  It's
still chugging along happily ... it's just very old =P

I'm finally attempting to bring myself into the 21st century through
apt-get.  It runs me through some config options, recognizes that I have
an old install and offers to upgrade it, and then says this:

home:/var/lib/dpkg/info# apt-get install postgresql
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Suggested packages:
  libpgperl libpgtcl postgresql-dev python-pygresql python-psycopg python-popy
  python-pgsql pgdocs ecpg
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  postgresql
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 29 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/3010kB of archives.
After unpacking 7512kB of additional disk space will be used.
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 76051 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking postgresql (from .../postgresql_7.3.4-6_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/postgresql_7.3.4-6_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 20
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/postgresql_7.3.4-6_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


So here's my question.  How do I figure out what "exit status 20" means?
I d/l'd the source and grepped around in preinst.in, but I couldn't
figure it out.

Secondarily, is there a place that debian stores the currently-used
install files so that I don't have to download the whole source package
just to find them?  It seems like /var/lib/dpkg/info only has this sort
of thing for fully-installed packages.

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Re: fsck hangs my machine unpredictably

[Roberto Sanchez]

Rob Dupuis wrote:
Hey guys.

Many thanks for all you responses.

My drive is DMA100 ide drive running on a promise fasttrak raid controller
on my motherboard. It's been quite happy up until recently when I upgraded a
bunch of packages. This seemed to start the ball rolling.
I think I'm gonna disable DMA,  add the noauto line to my fstab and see if I
can try to salvage some of my important data from the drive.
Then I'm gonna reinstall debian and try to get my apt pinning sorted out so
I only upgrade versions of things I need.
Any ideas if I add the noauto whether I'll be able to mount the corrupted
drive?
RobD

The only thing noauto does is prevent the partition from automaigcally
being mounted at boot.  If you have some sort of data recovery tool you
plan to use on the dirve, this is probably a good idea.  Especially
since a corrupted drive will likely trigger a fsck, which could make
things worse in your case.
-Roberto


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Probs Installing Testing pkgs on Woody stable

[Eric Walstad]

Hi All,

I'm a Debian newbie.  Please be gentle.

I've installed Woody stable and now find that I need to install:
hostap-source.html
hostap-utils.html
wireless-tools.html
for a project I'm working on[1].  I think these packages are only available in 
Debian's Sarge/Testing, but I'm not entirely clear on how to tell that for 
sure.  When I try to dpkg --install them or apt-get install them I get errors 
to the effect that I'm going to screw with other packages if I install these.  
Sorry, I'm at home now and don't have the command lines I issued nor the 
error messages.

I've read parts of the apt howto, installation manuals, man pages for apt and 
dpkg, etc. and am feeling a little swamped with a lot of information.  I'm 
hoping someone can point me in the right direction.

I think my problems are, and hope for help with:
- I'm confused about apt-get vs. dpkg, when to use which and what they can and 
can't do.  I thought that one or both would magically handle the dependencies 
for me, installing what is needed for me even if it meant replacing packages 
with newer, testing, versions.
- Should I up[grade|date] my entire installation to Sarge/Testing?  If so, 
how?  The best I could find on Debian.org said that I should burn a minimal 
CD and then install from the net.  Burning the CD is no trouble but, when I 
tried to take this approch when installing Woody, it was not clear to me how 
to specify a network install and from which site[s] the deb packages should 
come.
- Should I just install these packages in non-debian form (from sources)?

Ultimately, I only need to compile the hostap modules along with the custom 
kernel I'm building so that both will play nicely together.

Any tips, pointers to specific and helpful docs, debian/apt/dpkg zen are 
appreciated.

Thanks in advance and best regards,

Eric.

[1] I'm building a Soekris Net4521[2] appliance using the Pebble[3] version of 
Debian, but I need to compile a custom kernel for some procfs software[4] 
I'll be writing.
[2] 
[3] 
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Re: mutt: how to forward envelope From?

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 01:20:03PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 02:01:04PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:22:35PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 11:59:23AM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> > > > I think you're looking for the following, which I found through the help
> > > > dialog from the inbox screen:
> > > > 
> > > > b   bounce-message remail a message to another user
> > > 
> > > Not quite.  I want to forward the message, not bounce it.  I need to
> > > add some text to the top so the recipient knows what's going on.
> > 
> 
> I don't understand. Isn't this what is done by the "f" command in mutt?

The 'f' command doesn't preserve the original envelope-from header,
which is what this thread's all about.

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Re: windows NT

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 07:09:01PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> DePriest, Jason R. wrote:
> 
> >Your question makes no sense.
> >
> >Debian is an entire operating system and does not run "on" another 
> >operating
> >system.
> >
> >If you have something like VMware installed on your NT 4 system, then 
> >Debian
> >can run in that.
> >
> >Other than that, you would have to set up your system to dual-boot between
> >Debian or NT to get them both on the same system.
> >
> >Just slapping Debian on there would likely overwrite your NT or at least
> >make it very difficult to get back into.
> >
> >-Jason
> >
> >
> 
> That message is actually from an email address harvesting spambot of
> some sort.  We've been seening these on the list for the last few weeks.
> They are usually very general, like: "My printer doesn't work.  How can
> I fix it?"  This one is just plain stupid, or beyond.

In more ways than one. What's the point of doing this, when you can
get the exact same email addresses out of a zillion public archives of
the list? In fact, how's it supposed to work at all? It gets people to
reply to the list, which they do anyway. Nothing goes to the spambot
at all.

I am used to conversations that start like this:

"My TV's not working, can you fix it?"
"Er... what's wrong with it?"
"It doesn't work."

...and carry on in the same vein for far too long. IMO the idiocy of
the questions is a good sign that they come from genuine Windoze
lusers. I think there's some web page out there that's making them
think Debian and Windoze are somehow connected.

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Re: Weather Stations

[kmark]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Bill Moseley wrote:

> Actually, there's two parts.  First we need a machine to collect
> data from an inexpensive weather station and then copy (ftp/scp) the
> data to some location every so often.
>
> Any suggestions for weather stations (a piece of equipment, not an
> online "station") that a linux box can talk to?  I assume a serial port
> is the interface of choice here.
>
> The second part is for a web site to fetch the data and convert it into
> some type of display suitable for a web page.  It would be nice to have
> something graphic (even if it is static data -- could use some animated
> image to give the effect of the wind speed fluctuating, I suppose ;)
>
> Any ideas?
I recall from pop electronics or maybe the back of Linux (world,format...)
some ruggedized simple data logging devices (temp, Hg, vibration) with
serial intefaces that run on batteries?
I just did a google: Bingo!
www.picotech.com
-Kev


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Re: Splitting attachments into separate emails

[kmark]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Johann Spies wrote:

> I administer 3 email servers which use spamassassin.  We are testing
> the service with about 110 users whose email are scanned by SA.
>
> My arrangement with them is to send me either spam that scored too low
> or false positives as attachments with either "spam" or "ham" in the
> Subject-line.
>
> What I want to do now is to exctract those emails from the attachments
> and put them in a maildir which can then be used by other processes to
> feed them so sa-learn.
>
> Now my question:  Are you aware of any tools that can do this?  An
> example of email that I receive (as Mutt shows the attachments) looks
> like this:
>
> I 2 Apcn, all your relatives can get the sam [message/rfc822, 7bit, 4,2K]
> I 3 >[text/plain, quoted, iso-8859-1, 2,9K]
> I 4 dichotoaous rlomberg rbcvuijmbpqed   [message/rfc822, 7bit, 3,3K]
> I 5 >[text/plain, quoted, iso-8859-1, 2,0K]
> I 6 Invite your friends to play live poker o [message/rfc822, 7bit, 1,7K]
> I 7 >[text/plain, quoted, iso-8859-1, 0,4K]
> I 8 Re: Vicodin71uh  [message/rfc822, 7bit, 1,4K]
> I 9 >[text/plain, quoted, iso-8859-1, 0,3K]
> I10 no more doctor to get your pharmys8z [message/rfc822, 7bit, 1,6K]
> I11 >[text/plain, quoted, iso-8859-1, 0,4K]
>
> I want to put items 2,4,6,8 and 10 in the maildir: ~/Mail/spam as
> separate messages.

Hi Johann,
First I was confused by your phrase 'send me .. as attachments' beacuse
there are 2 formats that various mailreader use: inline and attachment. So,
you'd have to check for both types and extract them differently. Secondly,
I was not sure if the user would 'reply' or 'forward' the mail to you.
These 4 options can be sorted out with procmail. I also realized that the
from: would be from your network and the to: would be you, also on your
network, so that would differentiate it from other mails using procmail.
Also, you can use a (maybe underused) mail filtering technique: the '+'.
You can ask that the mail be send to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and this is easy to filter. Or create a 2 new email addresses. These are
suggestion to figure out which mails are for sa. Now once that is done,
you need to determine what to do with the 4 mail types: inline forward,
attachment forward, inline reply and attachment reply. procmail and/or
perl may be need to do this simple check. Then you send it to the 'extract
spam/ham and feed sa' script.
HTH
-Kev


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Re: windows NT

[Wilko Fokken]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 03:32:03PM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote:
>
> Oh, my! 
> It's not an application.
> Debian will replace your NT4 and make your 233 run better.
> 
> Cam
> 
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Re: Weather Stations

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:33:33 -0600, 
Dean Allen Provins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Bill:
> 
> Dallas Semiconductor sold weather stations several years ago that
> could talk to Linux (as well as that other OS).  It was about $80US.
> I believe that another firm is now marketing the product.  A google
> search ought to find it.  The base system includes wind speed and
> direction, and temperature.  There was an add-on for a rain guage too.
> The software to control it was included.
> 

..http://www.ibutton.com/weather/ ?  Found it from
http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+PC+%22weather+station+sensors%22


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Re: mutt: how to forward envelope From?

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 01:53:41AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 01:32:00AM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> > Maybe I'm totally misunderstanding you, but what you're describing
> > sounds like purposely spoofing your From.  There's a big difference
> > between pushing a mail along to another recipient with the sender
> > intact, and actually *changing* the text of the mail while still
> > claiming that it's from the original sender.
> 
> Nope.  I want to forward messages for abuse-reporting purposes.  It
> would be nice if I could get that extra header as well.

Oh, right. I think you have to do that by hand - copy message to a
temp file and use your editor's insert-file function to pull that into
your abuse report, etc. Or if your abuse report is a standard text, you
could hack one of the spam-reporting scripts that spamcop gives you
(see attachment).

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Re: deb package small file size?

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 20:19, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:01:46PM -0400, Sully W Beardmore wrote:
> > I'm JUST getting started with Debian, in fact I have a Knoppix CD in the
> > mail right now.  I've been looking at the Debian package tree at Wine
> > debs, and they seem incredibly small.  The normal rpm size of Wine is >6
> > MB, but the deb was <1 MB!
> 
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the wine package itself just
> contains the WINE executables and a few other bits and pieces. You also
> need libwine, and the sum of the sizes of wine and libwine are rather
> closer to the RPM sizes you quote.

To generalize, Debian breaks things up into lots of packages.  This
is mainly because of the Debian philosophy "only install what you
need".

For example, back in my Mandrake days, if I wanted to install Python,
X Windows and Gtk had to be pre-installed.  Not so with Debian.

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Re: deb package small file size?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:01:46PM -0400, Sully W Beardmore wrote:
> I'm JUST getting started with Debian, in fact I have a Knoppix CD in the
> mail right now.  I've been looking at the Debian package tree at Wine
> debs, and they seem incredibly small.  The normal rpm size of Wine is >6
> MB, but the deb was <1 MB!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the wine package itself just
contains the WINE executables and a few other bits and pieces. You also
need libwine, and the sum of the sizes of wine and libwine are rather
closer to the RPM sizes you quote.

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Re: windows NT

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 07:09:01PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> DePriest, Jason R. wrote:
> >Your question makes no sense.
> >
> >Debian is an entire operating system and does not run "on" another
> >operating system.
> >
> >If you have something like VMware installed on your NT 4 system, then
> >Debian can run in that.
[...]
> That message is actually from an email address harvesting spambot of
> some sort.  We've been seening these on the list for the last few weeks.
> They are usually very general, like: "My printer doesn't work.  How can
> I fix it?"  This one is just plain stupid, or beyond.

Er, no. debian-user has seen questions like the original poster's for a
long, long time, years before what appears to be the current bot made
its appearance. I'd suggest applying Occam's razor: the simplest
explanation is that the poster is confused about what Debian is,
therefore that explanation should be believed unless you have good
evidence to the contrary.

None of the previous posts you're referring to even mentioned Debian at
all.

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deb package small file size?

[Sully W Beardmore]

Hi,

I'm JUST getting started with Debian, in fact I have a Knoppix CD in the
mail right now.  I've been looking at the Debian package tree at Wine
debs, and they seem incredibly small.  The normal rpm size of Wine is >6
MB, but the deb was <1 MB!  Am I mis-understanding something?  I dial up
to the Internet at about 14.4 kbps, so if the packages are consistently
so much smaller, I'll be switching almost entirely to Debian.  Thanks for
the help!


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Re: Tool to bounce mails

[ScruLoose]

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:07:55PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:36:17PM -0400, ScruLoose wrote:
> > Feeding spam into spamcop.org is a good way to contribute to a long-term
> > solution (generates complaint letters to the spammer's ISP, and
> > submits them to a block-list).
> 
> spamcop.net, not .org

D'oh!
I knew that.  :-/

> exim4 with sa-exim is the easy and fast way to set up a teergrube.
> Start one today!  8:o)

Hmm...
perhaps not _today_ exactly... but I am looking at setting up a
(mostly)-dedicated mailserver pretty soon.  I'll keep this in mind.

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RE: fsck hangs my machine unpredictably

[Rob Dupuis]

Hey guys.

Many thanks for all you responses.

My drive is DMA100 ide drive running on a promise fasttrak raid controller
on my motherboard. It's been quite happy up until recently when I upgraded a
bunch of packages. This seemed to start the ball rolling.

I think I'm gonna disable DMA,  add the noauto line to my fstab and see if I
can try to salvage some of my important data from the drive.

Then I'm gonna reinstall debian and try to get my apt pinning sorted out so
I only upgrade versions of things I need.

Any ideas if I add the noauto whether I'll be able to mount the corrupted
drive?

RobD

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Daniel B.
> Sent: 10 October 2003 22:24
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: fsck hangs my machine unpredictably
>
>
> Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> >
> > Daniel B. wrote:
> > > The Linux kernel has had and still has a number bugs that can corrupt
> > > the filesystem data on an IDE disk, especially when using DMA.
> > >...
> > > Daniel
> >
> > While DMA related corruption may be the problem in Rob's case, I believe
> > most of the problems have been worked out.  I say this because I have an
> > nForce2 mobo (one of the more problematic) running a Debianized 2.4.22
> > kernel without any sort of data corruption problems.
>
> Maybe many have been worked out, but problems still remain.
>
> 2.4.18 trashes my disk if I enable DMA.
> 2.4.22 just trashed my disk because it turns on DMA by default (before
> my init scripts turned it off).
> 2.4.22 and 2.4.18 occasionally just hang permanently (not sure if
> DMA-related or even IDE-releated).
> 2.4.18 gives 15- or 20-second hangs once in a while (seems IDE-related).
>
> What IDE controller does your motherboard have?  (Mine is an Asus
> A7M266-D (dual-Athlon MP), with an on-board AMD768 (for which DMA
> apparently doesn't work reliably yet).)
>
>
> Daniel
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Re: Weather Stations

[Dean Allen Provins]

Bill:

Dallas Semiconductor sold weather stations several years ago that
could talk to Linux (as well as that other OS).  It was about $80US.
I believe that another firm is now marketing the product.  A google search
ought to find it.  The base system includes wind speed and direction,
and temperature.  There was an add-on for a rain guage too.
The software to control it was included.

Dean

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 02:47:33PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> Actually, there's two parts.  First we need a machine to collect 
> data from an inexpensive weather station and then copy (ftp/scp) the 
> data to some location every so often.  
> 
> Any suggestions for weather stations (a piece of equipment, not an 
> online "station") that a linux box can talk to?  I assume a serial port
> is the interface of choice here.
> 
> The second part is for a web site to fetch the data and convert it into
> some type of display suitable for a web page.  It would be nice to have
> something graphic (even if it is static data -- could use some animated
> image to give the effect of the wind speed fluctuating, I suppose ;)
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
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Re: Switching from RH 7.3 to Debian 3.0r1

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 22:40 GMT, Andreas Janssen penned:
> Hello
> 
> Curtis (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
>> I've downloaded the debian isos, burning them afterwards, but before
>> I take the plunge into switching, is there anything to prepare?  This
>> is my first time switching distros on a computer.  Any pitfalls to
>> avoid.  By the way, I wanted to do a netinstall, so I only have to
>> use the first cd.
> 
> You should backup the configuration data of your current system. You
> will probably have to manually select some things that were
> automagically configured in Red Hat, like modules for your sound/net
> devices or the XFree configuration (especially the XFree driver and
> the frequencies of your monitors from the old configuration file will
> be helpfull when you setup XFree in Debian). Also, Debian will use an
> 2.2 kernel for installation by default. Maybe you want to use the 2.4
> installation kernel. Read the instructions when you boot from the CD,
> they will tell you how to select the installation kernel.
> 
> best regards Andreas Janssen
> 

I converted from RH to Debian several years ago.  All of the config
files from /etc/* worked fine, iirc, but they didn't always go in the
same place.  Some judicious use of the 'find' command should do wonders.


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Re: ProFTPd over NAT

[Greg Bolshaw]

Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:48:02 +0200
>
> Greg Bolshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It's a hardware router doing the NAT, I'm not use iptables locally.
>
> Oh.  Uhm, odd.  Most hardware routers normally catch FTP and modify it
> accordingly.

Yeah. Surely there must be something I can do with ProFTPd to force it to use 
my public IP?

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Re: windows NT

[Jeff Elkins]

On Friday 10 October 2003 7:09 pm, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
>That message is actually from an email address harvesting spambot of
>some sort.  We've been seening these on the list for the last few weeks.

And it's also HTML format which is another red flag. 

Jeff Elkins


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Re: Grub, latest adventure

[Jerome R. Acks]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 07:52:47AM -0800, J Y wrote:
> Hi, 
> This is my latest menu 1st. It doesn't work. Mostly I just boot whatever
> I want from floppy. 
>  SuSE (the 1st entry titled "linux" does boot) Maybe windows does now
> too. I haven't checked that since  
> my most recent editing. I did enter "grub" at a  terminal window, and
> when I typed "root (' the response was  
> "selected disk does not exsist"  When I typed 'kernel /'  I got "invalid
> device requested". I also found I could produce 
>  the same error (error 15: file system not found) which is what I get
> now at start up when I click debian or slack,  
> by entering 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz and the correct path. I do not know
> what's wrong.  
>
> gfxmenu (hd0,4)/message 
> color white/blue black/light-gray 
> default 0 
> timeout 8 
>  
> title linux 
> kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7  hdd=ide-scsi vga=791 
> initrd (hd0,4)/initrd 
>  
> title floppy 
> root (fd0) 
> chainloader +1 

This looks like you are telling the grub that the grub boot floppy
also includes the window bootloader.

>  
> title failsafe 
> kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz.shipped root=/dev/hda7 ide=nodma apm=off
> acpi=off vga=normal nosmp maxcpus=0 disableapic 3 
> initrd (hd0,4)/initrd.shipped 
>  
> title windows 
> root  (hd0,0) 
> chainloader (hd0,0)+1 
> makeactive 

If this doesn't boot windows, try:
root  (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainload +1

>  
> title debian3.0 
> root (hd1,4) 
> kernel (hd1,4)/vmlinuz-2.4.18-k7 root=/dev/hdb5 hdd=ide-scsi vga=791 
> initrd (hd1,5)/initrd-2.4.18-k7 
 ^--^  should this be initrd.img-2.4.18-k7?

'initrd (hd1,5)' indicates your kernel image is in a different
partition than it's initrd.img.

Need a little more info. Please open a terminal, su to root, and then
run /sbin/grub. 

grub> find /vmlinuz-2.4.18-k7
grub> find /initrd-2.4.18-k7
grub> find /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-k7
grub> find /boot/initrd-2.4.18-k7

and post the results back to the list.

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Re: Switching from RH 7.3 to Debian 3.0r1

[Roberto Sanchez]

Curtis wrote:
I've downloaded the debian isos, burning them afterwards, but before I 
take the plunge into switching, is there anything to prepare? This is my 
first time switching distros on a computer.  Any pitfalls to avoid. By 
the way, I wanted to do a netinstall, so I only have to use the first cd.
-Naota.



Make yourself a parted boot disk or a Knoppix CD (knoppix has parted
installed) and make another partition on your machine.  Install Debian
to the new partition and that way you have the entire RH install
available as a reference on the other partition.  Once you are confident
that your Debian install is good to go, wipe the RH partition and
reclaim it as /var, /usr, or delete it with parted and enlarge your
Debian partition.
If you have lots of stuff on your RH install (web server, mail server,
NFS server, whatever) you don't want to go nuking it before you have
everything functional under Debian.
Post any questions or problems to the list.

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Re: windows NT

[Roberto Sanchez]

DePriest, Jason R. wrote:

Your question makes no sense.

Debian is an entire operating system and does not run "on" another operating
system.
If you have something like VMware installed on your NT 4 system, then Debian
can run in that.
Other than that, you would have to set up your system to dual-boot between
Debian or NT to get them both on the same system.
Just slapping Debian on there would likely overwrite your NT or at least
make it very difficult to get back into.
-Jason


That message is actually from an email address harvesting spambot of
some sort.  We've been seening these on the list for the last few weeks.
They are usually very general, like: "My printer doesn't work.  How can
I fix it?"  This one is just plain stupid, or beyond.
-Roberto


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Re: Switching from RH 7.3 to Debian 3.0r1

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Curtis (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I've downloaded the debian isos, burning them afterwards, but before I
> take the plunge into switching, is there anything to prepare?
> This is my first time switching distros on a computer.  Any pitfalls
> to avoid.
> By the way, I wanted to do a netinstall, so I only have to use the
> first cd.

You should backup the configuration data of your current system. You
will probably have to manually select some things that were
automagically configured in Red Hat, like modules for your sound/net
devices or the XFree configuration (especially the XFree driver and the
frequencies of your monitors from the old configuration file will be
helpfull when you setup XFree in Debian). Also, Debian will use an 2.2
kernel for installation by default. Maybe you want to use the 2.4
installation kernel. Read the instructions when you boot from the CD,
they will tell you how to select the installation kernel.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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RE: windows NT

[DePriest, Jason R.]

> -Original Message-
> From: Ef Reb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 4:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: windows NT
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Will Debian run on Windows NT 4? I've an intel 233 processor. If so which
version.
> 
> thanks

Your question makes no sense.

Debian is an entire operating system and does not run "on" another operating
system.

If you have something like VMware installed on your NT 4 system, then Debian
can run in that.

Other than that, you would have to set up your system to dual-boot between
Debian or NT to get them both on the same system.

Just slapping Debian on there would likely overwrite your NT or at least
make it very difficult to get back into.

-Jason


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Re: fsck hangs my machine unpredictably

[Roberto Sanchez]

Daniel B. wrote:

What IDE controller does your motherboard have?  (Mine is an Asus
A7M266-D (dual-Athlon MP), with an on-board AMD768 (for which DMA
apparently doesn't work reliably yet).)
Daniel


00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (rev a2) (prog-if 
8a [Master SecP PriP])
Subsystem: Biostar Microtech Int'l Corp: Unknown device 3400
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0
I/O ports at f000 [size=16]

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Re: windows NT

[Cam Ellison]

* Ef Reb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> Will Debian run on Windows NT 4? I've an intel 233 processor. If so
> which version.
> 
Oh, my! 

It's not an application.

Debian will replace your NT4 and make your 233 run better.

Cam

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windows NT

[Ef Reb]

Hi,

 

Will Debian run on Windows NT 4? I’ve an intel 233
processor. If so which version.

 

thanks

Switching from RH 7.3 to Debian 3.0r1

[Curtis]

I've downloaded the debian isos, burning them afterwards, but before I 
take the plunge into switching, is there anything to prepare? 
This is my first time switching distros on a computer.  Any pitfalls to 
avoid. 
By the way, I wanted to do a netinstall, so I only have to use the first 
cd. 

-Naota. 

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Re: ProFTPd over NAT

[Steve Lamb]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:48:02 +0200
Greg Bolshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's a hardware router doing the NAT, I'm not use iptables locally.

Oh.  Uhm, odd.  Most hardware routers normally catch FTP and modify it
accordingly.

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Re: ProFTPd over NAT

[Greg Bolshaw]

Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:29:27 +0200
>
> Greg Bolshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Bit of a strange problem.
> >
> > I'm running ProFTPd + inetd on a machine with a private IP address
> > (10.0.0.1). The router forwards all incoming traffic from the public IP
> > to the private IP.
> >
> > When I FTP to the server over the Internet, it connects fine. As soon as
> > I list the current directory, it seems to be trying to connect to the
> > private IP (see below). Where do I tell ProFTPd/inetd to use the public
> > IP instead?
>
> I believe the answer is that you need to load up the NAT module to
> translate FTP connections.  Take a look at ip_conntrack_ftp and ip_nat_ftp.

It's a hardware router doing the NAT, I'm not use iptables locally.

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Weather Stations

[Bill Moseley]

Actually, there's two parts.  First we need a machine to collect 
data from an inexpensive weather station and then copy (ftp/scp) the 
data to some location every so often.  

Any suggestions for weather stations (a piece of equipment, not an 
online "station") that a linux box can talk to?  I assume a serial port
is the interface of choice here.

The second part is for a web site to fetch the data and convert it into
some type of display suitable for a web page.  It would be nice to have
something graphic (even if it is static data -- could use some animated
image to give the effect of the wind speed fluctuating, I suppose ;)

Any ideas?


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Re: ProFTPd over NAT

[Steve Lamb]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:29:27 +0200
Greg Bolshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bit of a strange problem.
 
> I'm running ProFTPd + inetd on a machine with a private IP address
> (10.0.0.1). The router forwards all incoming traffic from the public IP to
> the private IP.
 
> When I FTP to the server over the Internet, it connects fine. As soon as I 
> list the current directory, it seems to be trying to connect to the private 
> IP (see below). Where do I tell ProFTPd/inetd to use the public IP instead?

I believe the answer is that you need to load up the NAT module to
translate FTP connections.  Take a look at ip_conntrack_ftp and ip_nat_ftp.

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ProFTPd over NAT

[Greg Bolshaw]

Hello

Bit of a strange problem.

I'm running ProFTPd + inetd on a machine with a private IP address (10.0.0.1). 
The router forwards all incoming traffic from the public IP to the private 
IP.

When I FTP to the server over the Internet, it connects fine. As soon as I 
list the current directory, it seems to be trying to connect to the private 
IP (see below). Where do I tell ProFTPd/inetd to use the public IP instead?

-
230 User greg logged in.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> ls
227 Entering Passive Mode (10,0,0,1,128,37).
-

Any help on this would be appreciated.

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Re: fsck hangs my machine unpredictably

[Daniel B.]

Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> 
> Daniel B. wrote:
> > The Linux kernel has had and still has a number bugs that can corrupt
> > the filesystem data on an IDE disk, especially when using DMA.
> >...
> > Daniel
> 
> While DMA related corruption may be the problem in Rob's case, I believe
> most of the problems have been worked out.  I say this because I have an
> nForce2 mobo (one of the more problematic) running a Debianized 2.4.22
> kernel without any sort of data corruption problems.

Maybe many have been worked out, but problems still remain.  

2.4.18 trashes my disk if I enable DMA.
2.4.22 just trashed my disk because it turns on DMA by default (before
my init scripts turned it off).
2.4.22 and 2.4.18 occasionally just hang permanently (not sure if 
DMA-related or even IDE-releated).  
2.4.18 gives 15- or 20-second hangs once in a while (seems IDE-related).

What IDE controller does your motherboard have?  (Mine is an Asus
A7M266-D (dual-Athlon MP), with an on-board AMD768 (for which DMA
apparently doesn't work reliably yet).)


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Re: mutt: how to forward envelope From?

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003, Paul Johnson wrote:

> I've noticed when you forward a message in mutt, it strips off the
> very first header, the envelope From.  Is there a way to change this?


Hi,

I do not know for sure if I am pointing to the same header you mean ... but
let us see:

For example the original headers with the first From line that is missing
when forwarding:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Jul 11 06:01:46 2003
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[...]
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:14:25 +0200 (MEST)
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (automatisch erzeugte E-Mail)

looks like this after forwarding:

To: Bob Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ihre Rechnung Juni 2003 steht bereit.]
Reply-To: 

- Forwarded message from automatisch erzeugte E-Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
-

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[...]

So the first line

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Jul 11 06:01:46 2003

is missing. But this first line has got nothing to do with the original
email header. From the mutt manual you get:

[...]
  4.6.  Mailbox Formats

  Mutt supports reading and writing of four different mailbox formats:
  mbox, MMDF, MH and Maildir.  The mailbox type is autodetected, so
  there is no need to use a flag for different mailbox types.  When
  creating new mailboxes, Mutt uses the default specified with the
  ``$mbox_type'' variable.

  mbox.  This is the most widely used mailbox format for UNIX.  All
  messages are stored in a single file.  Each message has a line of the
  form:

   From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:44:56 PST

  to denote the start of a new message (this is often referred to as the
  ``From_'' line).
[...]

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Debian experimental packages of PostgreSQL 7.4beta4

[Oliver Elphick]

Debian packages of PostgreSQL 7.4beta4 are available in the experimental
section of the Debian archive.

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Re: What holds up a package in incoming?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 02:22:33PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I was browsing incoming.debian.org and saw kernel-source-2.6.0-test6
> > has been in there 04 October.  Why has it not come through yet?  What
> > holds up a package like that for almost a week?  Just wondering.
> 
> Packages that are new to Debian need to be manually approved by the
> ftpmasters.  In my experience, this generally takes about a week,
> which is consistent with what you're seeing.

... and, to clarify, the modification time of the file that you see in
incoming.debian.org is based on when it was uploaded, not when it was
approved and moved out of the NEW queue.

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Re: apt-get install xfce4 or kde fails

[Johan Van den Neste]

On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 17:47, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 04:15:02PM +0200, Johan Van den Neste wrote:
> > what exactly does this mean?
> 
> The packages are buggy.
> 
> > can I do something to fix it?
> 
> Welcome to unstable ...
> 

uhuh.  fun :-)

just checked at bugs.debian.org
it's already reported


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Cell Modem and Linux

[Bill Moseley]

Anyone have information on using a cell modem with linux?
It's not for a desktop (i.e. not pcmcia).

What kind of drivers are needed, if any?

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dselect conflicts (was: Re: Still BIG problems with XFree on Dell C400)

[Jon Haugsand]

* Matthias Hentges
> 
> Check the following settings in make menuconfig:

Thank you.  I solved the problem by moving USB from modules to
kernel.  I guess I could tweak some settings in /etc/modules or something.

 
> I personally prefer GDM, but KDM is nice,too.

Thanks.



My current problem took place when I entered dselect in order to
REALLY configure my system.  There was a LOT of conflicts.  And I
couldn't make head or tails out of these things.

Maybe the problems manifasted themselves when I installed a new kernel
and a new testing version of XFree 3.2.

How should I figure out thise things?

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Multi-headed X servers for multiple local users

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

Hi folks!

I have only one computer, and I'm usually stuck to it always. But then, 
my girlfriend needs to get some work done every now and then too... The 
appartment is small, and I have the hardware for a thin client, but 
another mini-tower is just too large... We're trying to live in here as 
well, you know... ;-)

So, I looked around, and I also had another possibility in mind, since I 
have a Matrox G450 dual-head, I could connect another screen to it, and 
a keyboard and mouse to the USB port. I had no idea on how to do it, 
but as it turns out, others have had the same idea, and implemented it 
with success, see e.g.: 

http://www.itsopen.net/projects/x-hack/
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/

Have anybody here done this? 

Apparently, it is suggested and sometimes required that you use a 
modified X-server. What are the chances that the patch would be 
included in Debian?

Cheers,

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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 16:40 GMT, Roberto Sanchez penned:
> 
> Another way is to *always* run your source files (and have your
> colleagues do the same) through indent before committing changes.  Of
> course, everyone needs to use the same options.  This ensures
> consistent formatting, regardless of the individual text editors in
> use.
> 
> -Roberto
> 

I believe there's a way to use cvs wrapper scripts (may have terminology
wrong) to automatically run an indent program on checkin. Probably a bad
idea for, say, python or make files, but maybe okay for
non-whitespace-dependent languages.

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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 16:26 GMT, Nori Heikkinen penned:
> 
> but (a) this is Java code; and (b) indent looks like it has so many
> tweakable options that to find every single preference the original
> coder used would take way too much reformatting, checking in, diffing
>=2E.. i'd just like to turn whitespace into tabs here, without having
>my code completely re-formatted.  if that's possible.
> 

If you don't mind spending some cash, I've used jindent before with good
results.  There's also a free trial version, though it's slightly
crippled.

http://www.jindent.com/

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Re: fsck hangs my machine unpredictably

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 14:50 GMT, Daniel B. penned:
> "Monique Y. Herman" wrote:
>> ...
>> 
>> If you already have it booted up, I believe that tune2fs -i 0 -c 0
>>  will totally disable any automatic checking of the drive in
>> the future.
> 
> Doesn't that just prevent checking a filesystem that appears to be
> clean?
> 
> Once a filesystem is known to have errors, I don't think those
> settings will stop fsck from running the next time.
> 

To be honest, I don't know =/

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Re: reverting to ext2 (Was: Re: How to kill X?)

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 11:09 GMT, Tim Connors penned:
> 
> Not a case of ext3 being crap, a case of ext3 with journalled *data*
> being crap. Quite a nice allrounder with the other two ext3 options
> set. And you get the same problems with all other fses when their
> equivalent of journalled *data* was turned on (if they had such a
> feature).

I read that but didn't understand it.  Is it that you can use ext3
without journalling?  Or is journalling data different from normal
journalling somehow?  I'm confused.

> The comment made earlier about bad sectors when power is turned off is
> a comments that can be made about any fs, not just ext3, and is a
> function of what drive you are using. It affects the IBM DTLA drives,
> because the motor slows down, but doesn't cut off the write head when
> power is cut, so the sector gets corrupted, and the drive is not smart
> enough to repair this upon power being reapplied, even if you try to
> write to that sector again without reading it first. Moral of that
> story: Stay away from IBM drives in general, given their incompetance
> in other matters (think, IBM DeathStar, etc).

I heard about the deathstars and told myself I'd check my model number
"eventually."  Then one day my OS started behaving *really* weirdly,
while at the same time the hard drive started making really ...
interesting noises.  It turned out to be a deathstar.  Fortunately, that
machine wasn't being used for anything terribly important, and the drive
was still under warranty (back when 3-year warranties were standard), so
it was only a minor annoyance.

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Re: Evolution and IMAP

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 10:44 GMT, Joerg Johannes penned:
> Hi everybody
> 
> I'm not sure if I found a bug or if I just overlooked a check-box: I
> just started to try out evolution as a mail client, and I found out
> that the details of mails in my IMAP-folders are not shown in the
> overview (such as Subject, From: and date). In fact, I just see a list
> of empty lines beginning with an envelope icon (which stands for a
> message). If I click on such a line, the message is displayed in the
> text box, but in the overview, this line is still empty. Has anybody
> seen this before?
> 
> joerg
> 

When I last used evolution several months ago, imap was working properly
(or at least, better than what you describe).  I don't recall anything
about my settings, though =/

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Re: mutt: how to forward envelope From?

[Paul E Condon]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 02:01:04PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:22:35PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 11:59:23AM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> > > I think you're looking for the following, which I found through the help
> > > dialog from the inbox screen:
> > > 
> > > b   bounce-message remail a message to another user
> > 
> > Not quite.  I want to forward the message, not bounce it.  I need to
> > add some text to the top so the recipient knows what's going on.
> 

I don't understand. Isn't this what is done by the "f" command in mutt?





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Re: [solved] System refuses to load uhci instead of usb-uhci

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

Just to point this out:
/etc/modules decides which modules are loaded on boot,
/etc/modutils/several_files decide about modules loaded on demand,
i. e. when some program tries to access a device. 
See also man update-modules .

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 05:21:40PM -0400, Lou Losee wrote:
> Never mind ...
> usb-uhci was in /etc/modules
> Dooh!!!
> 

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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Nori Heikkinen]

dman, you rock as usual.

on Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:33:17PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:48:34AM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> | hey all,
> | 
> | this is kind of off-topic, but i figured this is the community most
> | likley to have dealt with this sort of thing in the past, and be
> | opinionated about it.
> | 
> | i've been editing a lot of code over the past few months that was
> | originally saved to disk with hard tabs for indenting.  i can't work
> | with hard tabs, and so managed to reformat the entire thing to use
> | spaces (basically a "s,^I,  ," iirc) before i began my massive
> | overhaul of this file.
> 
> Read ":help retab".  It is so much nicer :-).

i just did -- and should have to begin with.  awesome.

> | now it's time to check it into CVS.  i don't want every single line to
> | show up as different just because of tab characters, so i need to find
> | a good solution on how to transform my indents back into tab
> | characters.  clearly the reverse -- "s,  ,^I," -- won't just work, as
> | there are places where two spaces exist that i wouldn't want a tab.
> 
> :set noet sts=2 sw=2 ts=2
> :retab!

oh, so that's what the ! is about at the end of retab ...

very cool, and exactly what i was asking for.

turns out my original file wasn't quite in the format i thought it
was, but knowing these tricks, i was able to reformat and re-check-in
the original before committing the changes.  very clean.

thanks a lot to all who responded!



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Re: Problems with jigdo

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On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:04:59AM -0700, TEETER,VINCE (HP-USA,ex1) wrote:
> Hello
> 
> There has got to be a better way.  I'm sure some doc, somewhere explains why
> the jigdo I downloaded doesn't work, but who can spend the time wading
> through all that.  Many of us here at HP would really like to see Debian
> replace the commercial versions of Linux, but the download and installation
> interfaces need to work for everybody, not just the in-crowd.  
> 
> Ok, insult me now if that's what you want to do, but this is what I did, and
> it did not work.  I download stuff all the time, so why does Debian have to
> be hard ?
> 
> 1. downloaded, unziped, and read README.txt for i386 jigdo.lite. 
> 
> 2. followed instructions for dealing with a proxy:
> 
> 
> Making jigdo-lite use your proxy
> 
> To make jigdo-lite use your proxy for its downloads, first
> double-click on "jigdo-lite.bat" to start the program. As soon as the
> input prompt has appeared, abort the program again and close the
> command window.
> 
> You will find that jigdo-lite has created a file called
> "jigdo-lite-settings.txt" in the same directory as this README.txt
> file. Load this into an editor and find the line that starts with
> "wgetOpts". The following switches can be added to the line:
> 
> -e ftp_proxy=http://LOCAL-PROXY:PORT/
> -e http_proxy=http://LOCAL-PROXY:PORT/
> --proxy-user=USER
> --proxy-passwd=PASSWORD
> 
> ***This is way to terse.  I think you mean replace //LOCAL-PROXY:PORT/
> with something but you need to show the exact syntax - I took a guess and
> put in what is in my Iexplorer proxy page **
> 
> 3.  tried starting jigdo-lite.bat both on the command line and by clicking
> its icon in Explorer.
> 
> There was no jigdo-lite-settings.txt
> 
> 4.  tried to contact a jigdo URL anyway, using what I guess is a jigdo
> URL/file,  and got the followin in jigdo-lite-settings.txt which looks more
> like some sort of log file:
> 
> jigdo='http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/jigdo/i386/woody-i386-
> jigdo'
> debianMirror=''
> nonusMirror=''
> tmpDir='.'
> jigdoOpts='--cache jigdo-file-cache.db'
> wgetOpts='--passive-ftp --dot-style=mega --continue --timeout=30'
> scanMenu=''
> 
> 5.  So I added the proxy statemnts and the jigdo-lite-settings.txt file
> looks like:
> 
> jigdo='http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/jigdo/i386/woody-i386-
> 1.ji
> gdo'
> debianMirror=''
> nonusMirror=''
> tmpDir='.'
> jigdoOpts='--cache jigdo-file-cache.db'
> wgetOpts='--passive-ftp --dot-style=mega --continue --timeout=30 -e
> ftp_proxy=ht
> tp:web-proxy:8088 -e http_proxy=http:web-proxy:8088 --proxy-user=vxtee
> proxy-pa
> sswd='
> scanMenu=''
> 
> And I got back:
> 
> 
> Jigsaw Download "lite"
> Copyright 2001-2003 by Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Loading settings from `jigdo-lite-settings.txt'
> 
> -
> To resume a half-finished download, enter name of .jigdo file.
> To start a new download, enter URL of .jigdo file.
> You can also enter several URLs/filenames, separated with spaces,
> or enumerate in {}, e.g. `http://server/cd-{1_NONUS,2,3}.jigdo'
> jigdo
> [http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/jigdo/i386/woody-i386-1.jigd
> o]:
> 
> Downloading .jigdo file
> Proxy http:web-proxy:8088: Must be HTTP.
> Proxy http:web-proxy:8088: Must be HTTP.
> 
> FINISHED --11:40:39--
> Downloaded: 0 bytes in 0 files
> File `woody-i386-1.jigdo' does not exist!
> Press any key to continue . . .
> 
> 
> 6.  Next I tried to download the jigdo for Linux and got
> jigdo-bin-0.7.0.tar.tar file.  I've never seen a tar.tar file before.
> Changed the last tar to gz but gzip said it wasn't a gzip file.  Looked at
> the web page and it actually has a bz2 extension, but gzip doesn't like that
> either.  
> 
> 7. So much for jigdo.
> 
> Vince

An un-official recommendation:

Get the CDs ( 7 in all ) from a mail order company.  The install
system is undergoing major revision. The new system is being tested.
The old system, which you will get on purchased CDs, is difficult, but
not as bad as your experience so far.

Look for suppliers of CDs on the Debian web site.



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Re: Transfer of files from laptop to desktop

[Alex Malinovich]

On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 12:37, David Z Maze wrote:
> Trey Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I have a work laptop running Win2000 that has a large number of files I
> > would like to transfer to my home Linux desktop.  What would be the
> > easiest way to do this?
> 
> Install Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/), which gives you a familiar
> bash shell under Windows.  If you install enough bits of it (the
> installer sadly isn't APT-based), you can get a normal ssh client.
> Then cd /cygdrive/c/My\ Documents/ or wherever, and scp things to the
> Linux machine to your heart's content.

If all you want to do is copy the files over, that's going to be
overkill. OTOH, if you'd like to have a selection of good *nix utilities
handy while in Windows, Cygwin is a great idea. But if you just want to
copy the files over, just get pscp. (putty scp) Do a google search for
"putty ssh" and hit "I'm feeling lucky". It'll take you straight there.

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Re: What holds up a package in incoming?

[David Z Maze]

Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was browsing incoming.debian.org and saw kernel-source-2.6.0-test6
> has been in there 04 October.  Why has it not come through yet?  What
> holds up a package like that for almost a week?  Just wondering.

Packages that are new to Debian need to be manually approved by the
ftpmasters.  In my experience, this generally takes about a week,
which is consistent with what you're seeing.

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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Alex Malinovich]

On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 11:28, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> on Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:06:07PM -0400, Mental Patient insinuated:
> > Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> [...]
> > >now it's time to check it into CVS.  i don't want every single line
> > >to show up as different just because of tab characters, so i need
> > >to find a good solution on how to transform my indents back into
> > >tab characters.  clearly the reverse -- "s,  ,^I," -- won't just
> > >work, as there are places where two spaces exist that i wouldn't
> > >want a tab.
> > >
> > >is there some way to open the file in emacs (in which i assumer it
> > >was originally written; i use vim) and run it through a
> > >re-indentder with hard tabs on?  or could i do this in vim?
> > >
> > 
> > I've done this with mixed results. In general if you're going to
> > work on projects, its a good idea to come up with your format
> > conventions first. :)
> 
> right, that would have been nice ... but, as you say, i just inherited
> this one.  not much i could have done about setting conventions first.
> 
> > For things like indenting, etc, you could always adjust what you
> > have your tabstop set to.
> 
> what i have my tabstop set to doesn't matter -- that's how my editor
> interprets hard tabs on disk.  what i have is _no_ hard tabs on disk,
> and i want to put them there.  that's more complex, right?
> 
> 

Assuming that all of your indentation is at the beginning of a line, (I
can't think where else it would be, but had to mention it just in case),
you can just use a relatively simple regexp to do it for you. Using
Perl, I'd do:

#!/usr/bin/perl

open (INFILE, $ARGV[0]);
open (OUTFILE, >$ARGV[1]);

foreach () {
  $_ =~ s/^ {2}/\t/;
  while ($_ =~ /^\t {2}/) {
$_ =~ s/\t {2}/\t\t/;
  }
  print OUTFILE $_;
}

close INFILE;
close OUTFILE;

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Re: bizzarre X fontspecs from xfstt

[David Z Maze]

David Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I apt-got xfstt in order to use bitstream-vera-sans-mono in emacs and
> xterm, however, now I get strange, broken behavior.  Running
> "xlsfonts" gets me, among other things:
>
> -ttf-bitstream-vera-bitstream vera sans
> mono-medium-r-normal-roman-0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1
>
> This makes no sense for a number of reasons.  Its Family is not "vera"
> but "bitstream".  Its weight is not "bold" but "vera".  Its slant is
> not "italic" but "bitstream vera sans mono".  What!?

It looks like something tried to put ttf-bitstream-vera as the foundry
field, which is wrong.  (Note that your font spec has 16 fields,
rather than the usual 14.)  Does it work fine without xfstt?  Modern
XFree86, including what's in woody, can natively handle TrueType fonts
without an external font server.

FWIW, my Bitstream Vera fonts look more like

-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

which is much closer to what I'd actually expect.  (On sid, without
using any X font server at all.)

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Re: mutt: how to forward envelope From?

[Pigeon]

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:22:35PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 11:59:23AM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> > I think you're looking for the following, which I found through the help
> > dialog from the inbox screen:
> > 
> > b   bounce-message remail a message to another user
> 
> Not quite.  I want to forward the message, not bounce it.  I need to
> add some text to the top so the recipient knows what's going on.

It doesn't work, anyway. Nor does set edit_headers=yes. I think you
have to use nasty exim header rewriting hacks, or for single messages,
copy the message to a temporary file and do it by hand with exim -f.

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Re: Tool to bounce mails

[Pigeon]

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:09:24PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 12:31:08PM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> > I wonder what the legal ramifications are, as well as wondering how
> > likely it would be that teergrubing would result in retaliation that
> > would saturate my bandwidth and make my ISP very unhappy with me (not to
> > mention rendering my net access unusable).
> 
> Pretty low to nil.  Spammers can't tell a teergrube from a really,
> really slow mail server connected by carrier pigeon from northern
> Siberia.

See RFC 1149.

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Re: To be safe don't use shift key...

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 12:30:57AM -0500, Rthoreau wrote:
> 
> Also if your in the mood for a little shopping you could also buy this 
> on Ebay.  Its a bug for those who really, really want to know.  Thats 
> right you can bid on a real dead bug.
> 
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11994

Perhaps I should have auctioned the beetle that chewed through my tape
of "Rain Dances".

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Another notch on Debian's belt!

[Rthoreau]

It looks like Linux Journal has announced their readers award, and 
Debian Gnu/Linux came out on top as favorite distro.

http://pr.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=785&mode=thread&order=0

I was expecting Mandrake or Gentoo or something.  I know that this 
doesn't add up to a good sample group.  It just shows that most people 
who visit their site make good decisions, or like OSS and Debian is 
more inline to FSF than a lot of other distro's. 

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Galeon 1.3.9 problems with forms, fine with Mozilla

[Neilen]

Hi.

I am having problems with almost any site that uses forms and/or
javascript when I use galeon.  An example site which exhibits this
problem is http://www.xe.com/ucc/. It seems that galeon somehow mangles
the data that is retured to to webserver when a form is submitted, and I
typically get an error consistant with the form having been badly
filled.

At first I thaught it might be the sites, since it happened in Mozilla
too, but then someone mentioned that its possible to solve the problem
by deleting some of the configuration files.

Deleting .mozilla fixed the problem in mozilla, but deleting .galeon did
not effect a cure for galeon.  I have not changed any settings for many
months, though I did change a couple of fairly basic things (paste
behaviour mainly) using gconf.

Thanks
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Re: Spamassassin and whitelists

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

On Thursday 09 October 2003 23:31, Danilo Raineri wrote:

> I tried with
>
> whitelist_from[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf, then in
> ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, and eventually with
>
> all_spam_to   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> in both of them, but with no effect.

Since nobody else has responded, I'll have a wild guess...:

You have restarted spamassassin after reconfiguring it so that spamd 
gets the new config...? 

It took me many days before it occured to me the first time Made me 
feel very stupid. It would of course be great if I'm not the only 
one... ;-)

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Re: Best Nics.

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 06:08, David Palmer. wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:40:29 +0100
> Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 06:25:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 17:20, David Palmer. wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 08:19:17 -0400
> > > > Johann Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thursday October  9 at 11:29am
> > > > > Edward Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> > > ???  What's wrong with the 3c905B?  Why shouldn't it work with AMD
> > > systems?
> > 
> > Indeed. That family of NICs work fine on my Athlon.
[snip]
> O.K.,
> Just the way I read it, I think.
> 'you can't go wrong with intel', so I thought they wouldn't work off AMD.
> Good to hear.

Ha ha.  Intel isn't Microsoft.  Thus, their hardware follow the
specs exactly, just like all the other manufacturers.

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X: No screens found

[Giannakis Eleftherios]

Hello everybody,

I've got a Fujitsu-Siemens laptop with S3 twister graphics adapter(with shared memory).
I can't start the X environment with gdm display manager.
The error message is "No screens found".
If anybody has the same laptop and can send me the XFree86config file I would be 
grateful!!!
I'm trying Debian 3.0r1
Thanks, any help appreciated!!


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Re: How do I prevent User 'A' from seeing User 'B' /home contents

[Ryan Nowakowski]

chmod 700 /home/*

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 10:53:46AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Hi all,
> I need to know how to change permissions of each user so that
> they only see their own home directory. As I write this i'm thinking
> that I have to change the groups they are in, is that correct?



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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Bill Moseley]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:48:34AM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> is there some way to open the file in emacs (in which i assumer it was
> originally written; i use vim) and run it through a re-indentder with
> hard tabs on?  or could i do this in vim?

In case this was not mentioned...

Also for your tool box:
:
info expand
info unexpand




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Problems with jigdo

[TEETER,VINCE (HP-USA,ex1)]

Hello

There has got to be a better way.  I'm sure some doc, somewhere explains why
the jigdo I downloaded doesn't work, but who can spend the time wading
through all that.  Many of us here at HP would really like to see Debian
replace the commercial versions of Linux, but the download and installation
interfaces need to work for everybody, not just the in-crowd.  

Ok, insult me now if that's what you want to do, but this is what I did, and
it did not work.  I download stuff all the time, so why does Debian have to
be hard ?

1. downloaded, unziped, and read README.txt for i386 jigdo.lite. 

2. followed instructions for dealing with a proxy:


Making jigdo-lite use your proxy

To make jigdo-lite use your proxy for its downloads, first
double-click on "jigdo-lite.bat" to start the program. As soon as the
input prompt has appeared, abort the program again and close the
command window.

You will find that jigdo-lite has created a file called
"jigdo-lite-settings.txt" in the same directory as this README.txt
file. Load this into an editor and find the line that starts with
"wgetOpts". The following switches can be added to the line:

-e ftp_proxy=http://LOCAL-PROXY:PORT/
-e http_proxy=http://LOCAL-PROXY:PORT/
--proxy-user=USER
--proxy-passwd=PASSWORD

***This is way to terse.  I think you mean replace //LOCAL-PROXY:PORT/
with something but you need to show the exact syntax - I took a guess and
put in what is in my Iexplorer proxy page **

3.  tried starting jigdo-lite.bat both on the command line and by clicking
its icon in Explorer.

There was no jigdo-lite-settings.txt

4.  tried to contact a jigdo URL anyway, using what I guess is a jigdo
URL/file,  and got the followin in jigdo-lite-settings.txt which looks more
like some sort of log file:

jigdo='http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/jigdo/i386/woody-i386-
jigdo'
debianMirror=''
nonusMirror=''
tmpDir='.'
jigdoOpts='--cache jigdo-file-cache.db'
wgetOpts='--passive-ftp --dot-style=mega --continue --timeout=30'
scanMenu=''

5.  So I added the proxy statemnts and the jigdo-lite-settings.txt file
looks like:

jigdo='http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/jigdo/i386/woody-i386-
1.ji
gdo'
debianMirror=''
nonusMirror=''
tmpDir='.'
jigdoOpts='--cache jigdo-file-cache.db'
wgetOpts='--passive-ftp --dot-style=mega --continue --timeout=30 -e
ftp_proxy=ht
tp:web-proxy:8088 -e http_proxy=http:web-proxy:8088 --proxy-user=vxtee
proxy-pa
sswd='
scanMenu=''

And I got back:


Jigsaw Download "lite"
Copyright 2001-2003 by Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Loading settings from `jigdo-lite-settings.txt'

-
To resume a half-finished download, enter name of .jigdo file.
To start a new download, enter URL of .jigdo file.
You can also enter several URLs/filenames, separated with spaces,
or enumerate in {}, e.g. `http://server/cd-{1_NONUS,2,3}.jigdo'
jigdo
[http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/jigdo/i386/woody-i386-1.jigd
o]:

Downloading .jigdo file
Proxy http:web-proxy:8088: Must be HTTP.
Proxy http:web-proxy:8088: Must be HTTP.

FINISHED --11:40:39--
Downloaded: 0 bytes in 0 files
File `woody-i386-1.jigdo' does not exist!
Press any key to continue . . .


6.  Next I tried to download the jigdo for Linux and got
jigdo-bin-0.7.0.tar.tar file.  I've never seen a tar.tar file before.
Changed the last tar to gz but gzip said it wasn't a gzip file.  Looked at
the web page and it actually has a bz2 extension, but gzip doesn't like that
either.  

7. So much for jigdo.

Vince


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Re: Transfer of files from laptop to desktop

[David Z Maze]

Trey Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a work laptop running Win2000 that has a large number of files I
> would like to transfer to my home Linux desktop.  What would be the
> easiest way to do this?

Install Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/), which gives you a familiar
bash shell under Windows.  If you install enough bits of it (the
installer sadly isn't APT-based), you can get a normal ssh client.
Then cd /cygdrive/c/My\ Documents/ or wherever, and scp things to the
Linux machine to your heart's content.

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What holds up a package in incoming?

[Roberto Sanchez]

I was browsing incoming.debian.org and saw kernel-source-2.6.0-test6
has been in there 04 October.  Why has it not come through yet?  What
holds up a package like that for almost a week?  Just wondering.
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Re: /dev/audio: No such device, do I have to recompile kernel?

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Erik Jälevik (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I am a Debian newbie and I'm trying to get a Soundblaster PCI128
> (CT4810) working. I'm running Debian 3.0 with kernel 2.2.20. I have
> added the relevant users to the audio group but I keep getting "No
> such device" errors when trying:
> 
> cat /usr/share/sounds/pop.wav > /dev/audio
>
> lspci gives:
> 00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)

A quick search on  shows that you probably
need the es1371 driver for your hardware. First of all, the driver does
not have to be compiled into the kernel. It can be compiled as a module
that is loaded at boottime or when needed. To load the driver at
boottime, add a line 

es1371

to your /etc/modules. To load it when needed, add a line

alias sound-slot-0 es1371

to your /etc/modutils/aliases and run update-modules. Next, add yourself
to the autio group, otherwise you will get permission errors next.

> So it seems to pick up the card. (Not sure if it's the right one
> though, do SBs have Ensoniq chips?) However, dmesg doesn't print any
> info at all about soundcards. lsmod doesn't list anything
> sound-related and /lib/modules only contains one file called
> 2.2.20-idepci. cat /dev/sndstat also gives a "No such device" error.

That is the directory (not file) where the kernel modules are located.
That are all the drivers that were not compiled into the kernel. You
are using the 2.2.20-idepci kernel. Going to
 and searching for "es1371.o" shows that
that kernel (the standard installation kernel?) does not have the
driver you need. So the easiest way would be to install another kernel
image, for example

apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20

or

apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-$arch

Most of the kernel image packages have the driver you need. Use 
apt-cache search kernel-image 
to get a list and 
apt-cache show name_of_package
to get more info on an specific package.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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How do I prevent User 'A' from seeing User 'B' /home contents

[Wathen, Metherion]

Hi all,
I need to know how to change permissions of each user so that
they only see their own home directory. As I write this i'm thinking
that I have to change the groups they are in, is that correct?

Any additional advice or correction is appreciated.
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Re: apt-get install xfce4 or kde fails

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 04:15:02PM +0200, Johan Van den Neste wrote:
> what exactly does this mean?

The packages are buggy.

> can I do something to fix it?

Welcome to unstable ...

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mounting nfs via internet

[Gerard Ceraso]

I am trying to mount an nfs partition via the internet. On the one side
there is a firewall so I need to know the ports that I need to open. I
am assuming the nfs port which I think is 2401 the mountd which is 718
and 721 and then portmapper which I think is 111. Is there anything
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Problems booting 2.4.22 - hangs at "ifstate"

[Cam Ellison]

Custom kernel 2.4.22 seems to boot fine up to the point where it deals
with the usb hotplug script, where there are a couple of segfaults,
but it gets past that, and then hangs at:

Cleaning: /etc/network/ifstate

/etc/network/interfaces is set up to auto lo, eth0, & eth1.  eth0 is
static (lan) and eth1 is dynamic.

Google does not seem to contain much, but there was a suggestion (with
regard to an pcmcia with an earlier kernel) that removing the auto
line would do the trick.  I am reluctant to do this, since the
documentation suggests that some startup scripts need this.

For the record, the configuration of the  kernel in question does not
differ much (and with respect to networking, not at all) from the
patched 2.4.20 currently in use.

Suggestions, please?

TIA

Cam
 
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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Alan Shutko]

Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> now it's time to check it into CVS.

Here's what I do in similar situations.  Do a diff between your work
file and the latest in CVS with diff -cb (or diff -ub, according to
preference).  The -b ignores changes in whitespace.  Then get a fresh
copy of the file from CVS, apply the patch with patch -l.  Then fix
up whatever lines are left that aren't indented right.  The lines you
added will need fixing, the lines you modified shouldn't.

Diff also has a switch "-E" which is supposed to ignore tab
expansion, but since you converted tabs to two spaces, I don't know
how well it will work.

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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Mental Patient]

Nori Heikkinen wrote:

right, that would have been nice ... but, as you say, i just inherited
this one.  not much i could have done about setting conventions first.

For things like indenting, etc, you could always adjust what you
have your tabstop set to.


what i have my tabstop set to doesn't matter -- that's how my editor
interprets hard tabs on disk.  what i have is _no_ hard tabs on disk,
and i want to put them there.  that's more complex, right?
Indeed it is. What you're essentially saying is along the lines of
"I've made sweeping format changes to the code before working on it, and 
now I only want to commit the actual code changes. How do I do that?", 
right?

I'm not sure how well this would work, but you could try something like 
this:

Checkout the original, unaltered file you started with. Do a

diff -uNrw originalfile newfile > changes.diff

patch -p0 < changes.diff

This should (I've only done some basic, rudimentary tests) only change 
the orignial file in the way that you want. In other words, the original 
file should be formated in its original state, but your new code should 
now be in it. Please make backups/check the output.

Keep in mind that you may want to go back and reformat your bits of code 
so that the styles match, but this should get you most of the way there.

My general rule of thumb is that unless I'm taking over the code for an 
extended period, I simply preserve the style it is written in. Its 
easier to deal with that way, especially if you know you're either not 
going to work on it again, or infrequently.

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bizzarre X fontspecs from xfstt

[David Morse]

I apt-got xfstt in order to use bitstream-vera-sans-mono in emacs and 
xterm, however, now I get strange, broken behavior.  Running "xlsfonts" 
gets me, among other things:

-ttf-bitstream-vera-bitstream vera sans 
mono-medium-r-normal-roman-0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

This makes no sense for a number of reasons.  Its Family is not "vera" 
but "bitstream".  Its weight is not "bold" but "vera".  Its slant is not 
"italic" but "bitstream vera sans mono".  What!?  Type violations a 
plenty.  Applications like xterm refuse to use this font, typically 
saying they are "unable to open" it.

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Remapping the keyboard

[Holger Brandsmeier]

I'm searching for a way to create my own keyboard 
layout. I need some german keys, but I also want the advatage from the english 
keyboard, which is really good for coding.
So I thought I might programm a third 
function for the keys.
- first function is the key itself
- second function is shift + key
- third function is alt or strg + key (if 
there are other possibilities I'll use them as well) 
 
I know that it must be possible, because on the 
german keyboard ALT_R + Q produces @. I read some articles manly 
about xmodmap, but I'm only able to change the first and second function. 
So does anyone know a way how to program this?
 
The problem is with the events, I tried the 
events for a, shift + a and strg + a, they all give the keycode 38, the 
difference is in the state register, which is 0x10, 0x11 or 0x14. If it is 
possible it should also be system wide.
 
I'm gratefull for any help
Holger Brandsmeier 

Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Roberto Sanchez]

Mental Patient wrote:

I've done this with mixed results. In general if you're going to work on 
projects, its a good idea to come up with your format conventions first. :)

However, sometimes you just inherit code and really there isnt much you 
can do about it. Its right up there with cuddled elses, some people do 
it, others dont. CVS is going to have huge deltas due to indent 
formatting. If I'm going to change the format of the code, I will 
usually commit ONLY format changes with a comment to that effect, then 
commit code changes. It makes it easier to see what was actually changed 
that way. When you do huge reformats, you're going to wind up in merge 
hell if you have lots of developers or multiple branches of the code. 
It'll be difficult to tell what actually changed, vs what was merely 
moved around.

For things like indenting, etc, you could always adjust what you have 
your tabstop set to.

Another way is to *always* run your source files (and have your
colleagues do the same) through indent before committing changes.  Of
course, everyone needs to use the same options.  This ensures consistent
formatting, regardless of the individual text editors in use.
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Re: BUG in package, what to do?

[Roberto Sanchez]

Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:38:41PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
| On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:09:41PM +0200, A. Loonstra wrote:
| > How long would it take, normally?
| 
| There is no normal when it comes to bugfixes.  Depends on how trivial
| or non-trivial the bug is.

It also depends on opinions with respect to the "bug".  Sometimes you
might call something a bug but someone else calls it a feature.
Sometimes, too, a given "bug" is considered the lesser of two evils.
In these situations then the bug might not get fixed.
What you are specifically talking about is termed "regression fault" in
software engineering lingo.  Basically, fixing one problem introduces
other problems.  If they are bad enough, as you pointed out they may be,
it is not worth it to fix the original bug until a suitable solution can
be found for both.
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Re: fsck hangs my machine unpredictably

[Roberto Sanchez]

Daniel B. wrote:
The Linux kernel has had and still has a number bugs that can corrupt
the filesystem data on an IDE disk, especially when using DMA.
**Rob:  If you are using IDE disks (if you don't know that you have
SCSI disks, you most surely have IDE disks), you should immediately
disable DMA.  

(E.g., add "ide=nodma" to your kernel command line.  Where you can set 
your kernel command line depends on how you boot.)

Daniel
While DMA related corruption may be the problem in Rob's case, I believe
most of the problems have been worked out.  I say this because I have an
nForce2 mobo (one of the more problematic) running a Debianized 2.4.22
kernel without any sort of data corruption problems.
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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:48:34AM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
| hey all,
| 
| this is kind of off-topic, but i figured this is the community most
| likley to have dealt with this sort of thing in the past, and be
| opinionated about it.
| 
| i've been editing a lot of code over the past few months that was
| originally saved to disk with hard tabs for indenting.  i can't work
| with hard tabs, and so managed to reformat the entire thing to use
| spaces (basically a "s,^I,  ," iirc) before i began my massive
| overhaul of this file.

Read ":help retab".  It is so much nicer :-).

| now it's time to check it into CVS.  i don't want every single line to
| show up as different just because of tab characters, so i need to find
| a good solution on how to transform my indents back into tab
| characters.  clearly the reverse -- "s,  ,^I," -- won't just work, as
| there are places where two spaces exist that i wouldn't want a tab.

:set noet sts=2 sw=2 ts=2
:retab!

| is there some way to open the file in emacs (in which i assumer it was
| originally written; i use vim) and run it through a re-indentder with
| hard tabs on?  or could i do this in vim?

You can do everything you need to in vim.

| suggestions & opinions welcome.  thanks a lot,

I would either revert the source back to the original formatting and
commit that, or make a commit on just the format changes.

Key settings in vim you should familiarize yourself with are :
expandtab   (et)
shiftwidth  (sw)
softtabstop (sts)
tabstop (ts)
and also familiarize yourself with the "retab" command.

My style/rule/preference is:
tabs are always 8 spaces (ts=8) except for the moments you need to
change the setting so that :retab creates the proper
indentation levels (then revert back to ts=8)
use shiftwidth and softtabstop to control indentation levels.
I like a 4-space indentation, so I use sw=4 and sts=4.
never use tabs (:set et)

The retab command converts the indentation between tabs and spaces and
does so according to how et, sw, sts, and ts are set.  The details are
in the manual (:help).

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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Nori Heikkinen]

on Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:06:07PM -0400, Mental Patient insinuated:
> Nori Heikkinen wrote:
[...]
> >now it's time to check it into CVS.  i don't want every single line
> >to show up as different just because of tab characters, so i need
> >to find a good solution on how to transform my indents back into
> >tab characters.  clearly the reverse -- "s,  ,^I," -- won't just
> >work, as there are places where two spaces exist that i wouldn't
> >want a tab.
> >
> >is there some way to open the file in emacs (in which i assumer it
> >was originally written; i use vim) and run it through a
> >re-indentder with hard tabs on?  or could i do this in vim?
> >
> 
> I've done this with mixed results. In general if you're going to
> work on projects, its a good idea to come up with your format
> conventions first. :)

right, that would have been nice ... but, as you say, i just inherited
this one.  not much i could have done about setting conventions first.

> For things like indenting, etc, you could always adjust what you
> have your tabstop set to.

what i have my tabstop set to doesn't matter -- that's how my editor
interprets hard tabs on disk.  what i have is _no_ hard tabs on disk,
and i want to put them there.  that's more complex, right?



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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Nori Heikkinen]

on Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:44:14AM -0400, Roberto Sanchez insinuated:
> Nori Heikkinen wrote:
[...]
> >now it's time to check it into CVS.  i don't want every single line
> >to show up as different just because of tab characters, so i need
> >to find a good solution on how to transform my indents back into
> >tab characters.  clearly the reverse -- "s,  ,^I," -- won't just
> >work, as there are places where two spaces exist that i wouldn't
> >want a tab.
> >
> >is there some way to open the file in emacs (in which i assumer it
> >was originally written; i use vim) and run it through a
> >re-indentder with hard tabs on?  or could i do this in vim?
>
> 
> You could probably write a quick script that will eliminate all
> leading spaces on every line.  Once that is done, just run it
> through indent.

wow, that's a neat program!

but (a) this is Java code; and (b) indent looks like it has so many
tweakable options that to find every single preference the original
coder used would take way too much reformatting, checking in, diffing
... i'd just like to turn whitespace into tabs here, without having my
code completely re-formatted.  if that's possible.

thanks,



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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:48:34AM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> i've been editing a lot of code over the past few months that was
> originally saved to disk with hard tabs for indenting.  i can't work
> with hard tabs, and so managed to reformat the entire thing to use
> spaces (basically a "s,^I,  ," iirc) before i began my massive
> overhaul of this file.
> 
> now it's time to check it into CVS.  i don't want every single line to
> show up as different just because of tab characters, so i need to find
> a good solution on how to transform my indents back into tab
> characters.  clearly the reverse -- "s,  ,^I," -- won't just work, as
> there are places where two spaces exist that i wouldn't want a tab.
> 
> is there some way to open the file in emacs (in which i assumer it was
> originally written; i use vim) and run it through a re-indentder with
> hard tabs on?  or could i do this in vim?

Perhaps you could set up vim's C indenting to produce the results you
want naturally, then run the whole thing through '='? You could also use
the 'indent' program, which has an insane range of options so can
probably reproduce most reasonable and unreasonable styles.

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Re: To be safe don't use shift key...

[csj]

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:57:50 -0400,
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> 
> Erik Steffl wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > ...or else the riaa might sue you.
> > >
> > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/10/08/bmg.protection.reut/index.html
> > 
> >   quote from article: "Computers running Linux and older
> > versions of the Mac operating system are unable to run the
> > software and are able to copy the disc freely, he said."
> > 
> >   ROFL
> > 
> Is that a license for us to copy something not worth copying?

The forbidden fruit syndrome: if it's copy-protected it must be
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Re: [SOLVED]squirrelmail and exim send problem

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 02:58:56AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| > On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:35:47AM +1300, Edward Murrell wrote:
| >> On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 02:02, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
| >> > When i try the smtp method i get this as error message:
| >> >
| >> > 2003-10-09 14:27:33 rejected EHLO from arthur.camelot [192.168.0.1]:
| >> > syntactically invalid argument(s): .ddts.net:
| >>
| >> That should be HELO, not EHLO. Either someone/thing has modified the php
| >> code that sends that, or the version you got is just plain corrupt.
| >
| > Uh ... EHLO is the Extended HELLO command in SMTP. See RFC 2821.
| 
| Thanks Derrick, Edward and Colin for responding.

You're welcome.

| I looked it up and it is indeed a bug in squirrelmail (1.4.0)
| currently available in testing. (#200108)
| It should be fixed in version 1.4.2-1
| I says how to solve the problem: some code needed to be commented.

This provides a good example of one advantage of interpreted languages
over compiled languages.  This code change can be made without the
need for recompilation or installing a new pacakge :-).

| As to the EHLO, i changed that also in the source code to HELO.

I wouldn't do that.  ESMTP (Extended SMTP) provides a number of
advantages over SMTP.  If you follow Colin's suggestion of reading RFC
2821 then you'll see that EHLO replaces HELO for an ESMTP connection.
Only antiquated (and broken, eg Cisco PIX's "smtp fixup") mail servers
will not understand EHLO.  (not that using plain SMTP is /wrong/, just
sub-optimal)

| I can now send email via webmail too.

Good.

| Next, i'll be looking into ssl to get a secure connection.

What you need here depends on what you are trying to secure.  If exim
and squirrelmail are on the same machine then you don't really need
SSL between them.  If you do want SSL between squirrelmail and exim
then you will definitely need to use ESMTP instead of SMTP (ESMTP
allows for STARTTLS but SMTP doesn't).  If you want the connection
between your browser and squirrelmail to be secured then you need to
work on apache's configuration to use HTTPS in place of HTTP.

-D

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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Mental Patient]

Nori Heikkinen wrote:
hey all,

this is kind of off-topic, but i figured this is the community most
likley to have dealt with this sort of thing in the past, and be
opinionated about it.
i've been editing a lot of code over the past few months that was
originally saved to disk with hard tabs for indenting.  i can't work
with hard tabs, and so managed to reformat the entire thing to use
spaces (basically a "s,^I,  ," iirc) before i began my massive
overhaul of this file.
now it's time to check it into CVS.  i don't want every single line to
show up as different just because of tab characters, so i need to find
a good solution on how to transform my indents back into tab
characters.  clearly the reverse -- "s,  ,^I," -- won't just work, as
there are places where two spaces exist that i wouldn't want a tab.
is there some way to open the file in emacs (in which i assumer it was
originally written; i use vim) and run it through a re-indentder with
hard tabs on?  or could i do this in vim?
suggestions & opinions welcome.  thanks a lot,



I've done this with mixed results. In general if you're going to work on 
projects, its a good idea to come up with your format conventions first. :)

However, sometimes you just inherit code and really there isnt much you 
can do about it. Its right up there with cuddled elses, some people do 
it, others dont. CVS is going to have huge deltas due to indent 
formatting. If I'm going to change the format of the code, I will 
usually commit ONLY format changes with a comment to that effect, then 
commit code changes. It makes it easier to see what was actually changed 
that way. When you do huge reformats, you're going to wind up in merge 
hell if you have lots of developers or multiple branches of the code. 
It'll be difficult to tell what actually changed, vs what was merely 
moved around.

For things like indenting, etc, you could always adjust what you have 
your tabstop set to.

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Re: BUG in package, what to do?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:38:41PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
| On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:09:41PM +0200, A. Loonstra wrote:
| > How long would it take, normally?
| 
| There is no normal when it comes to bugfixes.  Depends on how trivial
| or non-trivial the bug is.

It also depends on opinions with respect to the "bug".  Sometimes you
might call something a bug but someone else calls it a feature.
Sometimes, too, a given "bug" is considered the lesser of two evils.
In these situations then the bug might not get fixed.

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[OT] Segfaulting tutorial program

[Roberto Sanchez]

Debianites,

I recently posted this to wx-users, but am not getting any help there.
I thought I might ask since the problem is actually occuring in a
system library.
I am running Sid, and have all the necessary librarys and -dev pacakges
installed.
The segfault occurs at some point during the wxFileDialog constructor.
It looks as thought happens when returning from a call to
lib/ld-linux.so.2.  I am not really sure how handle this.
Everything else in the tutorial was working correctly up until I
added the dialog box.
I would really appreciate some help on this.

-Roberto Sanchez

**

Here is the offending function:

void TextFrame::OnMenuFileOpen(wxCommandEvent &WXUNUSED(event))
{
wxFileDialog *dlg = new wxFileDialog(this, "Open a text file", "", 
"", "All files (*.*)|*.*|TextFiles (*.txt)|*.txt", wxOPEN, wxPoint 
(100,100));

if (dlg->ShowModal() == wxID_OK)
{
m_pTextCtrl->LoadFile(dlg->GetFilename());
SetStatusText(dlg->GetFilename(), 0);
}
dlg->Destroy();
}
Here is the very last part of the stepping that resulted in the
segfault:
0x40007ad3 in _dl_lookup_versioned_symbol_internal () from 
/lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) stepi
0x40007ad5 in _dl_lookup_versioned_symbol_internal () from 
/lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) stepi
0x40007ad7 in _dl_lookup_versioned_symbol_internal () from 
/lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) stepi
0x40007aea in _dl_lookup_versioned_symbol_internal () from 
/lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) stepi
0x40007aed in _dl_lookup_versioned_symbol_internal () from 
/lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) finish
0x4000abff in fixup () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) stepi
0x4000ac02 in fixup () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) stepi
0x4000aba4 in fixup () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) stepi
0x4000aba7 in fixup () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) stepi
0x4000aba9 in fixup () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) finish

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x2e2e2074 in ?? ()
(gdb) up
#1  0x4028f8ab in wxTopLevelWindowGTK::Create(wxWindow*, int, wxString 
const&, wxPoint const&, wxSize const&, long, wxString const&) () from 
/usr/lib/libwx_gtk2-2.4.so.0
(gdb) up
#2  0x4025da34 in wxDialog::Create(wxWindow*, int, wxString const&, 
wxPoint const&, wxSize const&, long, wxString const&) () from 
/usr/lib/libwx_gtk2-2.4.so.0
(gdb) frame 0
#0  0x2e2e2074 in ?? ()
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Re: /dev/audio: No such device, do I have to recompile kernel?

[Roberto Sanchez]

Erik Jälevik wrote:
I am a Debian newbie and I'm trying to get a Soundblaster PCI128 (CT4810)
working. I'm running Debian 3.0 with kernel 2.2.20. I have added the
relevant users to the audio group but I keep getting "No such device" errors
when trying:
cat /usr/share/sounds/pop.wav > /dev/audio

Two things.

If you have reasonably modern hardware, it would probably be worth it to 
upgrade to a 2.4 kernel.  You can either get one from
kernel.org or, alternatively, download one of the Debian kernels from
testing or unstable.  You can do the latter by going to
packages.debian.org and searching for kernel-source-2.4 and selecting
"any" for the distribution.  I recommend gettin the 2.4.22, as it is
the latest available stable kernel.

Also, I believe that to cat an audio file to the audio device it must be
in some raw audio format.  I don't believe that .wav is such a format.
I have searched the howtos and newsgroups and it seems I don't have the
correct driver compiled into my kernel. As I've never compiled a kernel
before, I thought I'd check if there's anything else I can try to get it
working?
Follow this excellent howto on building a new kernel:

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

It is brain dead easy.

If you are still uncomfortable with it, apt-cache search kernel-image
will show you the avialable kernel images for Woody.
lspci gives:
00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
I believe that some folks have been having trouble with this chip.
Try searching the list archives for more details.
So it seems to pick up the card. (Not sure if it's the right one though, do
SBs have Ensoniq chips?) However, dmesg doesn't print any info at all about
soundcards. lsmod doesn't list anything sound-related and /lib/modules only
contains one file called 2.2.20-idepci. cat /dev/sndstat also gives a "No
such device" error.
If there is not dmesg ouput for the soundcard, then you don't have
support for it in the kernel (either modular or compiled in).  Since
it is a stock kernel, basically everything but the bare essentials is
compiled as a module.  I don't know which driver corresponds to that
card (anyone want to help out on that), but if you know which one it is,
a quick modprobe  should get you going.
How can I find out which driver I need and is there any way of adding it
without recompiling the kernel?
If the module has already been compiled, the modprobe will do it.  If
not, I think you are stuck recompiling the kernel.
Many thanks,
Erik

-Roberto


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Re: Tool to bounce mails

[Daniel B.]

Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 10:33:24AM -0400, Daniel B. wrote:
> > http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2001may/gee20010511005839.htm ?
> 
> Nice logo...where's the content?

What do you mean?  I get a page with an article starting:

 Putting the Pigeon in IP 

 posted 8:32am EST Fri May 11 2001 

 NEWS
 A group of Norwegian Linux geeks successfully used the CPIP (Carrier
 Pigeon Internet Protocol) to ping a two-computer network at 0.15 bps 
on April
 28th. 


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Why "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting." when in "script" command subshell?

[Daniel B.]

I get:

  X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.

if I try to run "startx&" from inside subshell created by the "script"
command?

Why is that?  (Is something about the subshell necessarily different
such that startx can't run?  Or is startx confused (is there a bug)?)

Thanks,
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Re: [OT] CVS diff: hard vs. soft tabs

[Roberto Sanchez]

Nori Heikkinen wrote:
hey all,

this is kind of off-topic, but i figured this is the community most
likley to have dealt with this sort of thing in the past, and be
opinionated about it.
i've been editing a lot of code over the past few months that was
originally saved to disk with hard tabs for indenting.  i can't work
with hard tabs, and so managed to reformat the entire thing to use
spaces (basically a "s,^I,  ," iirc) before i began my massive
overhaul of this file.
now it's time to check it into CVS.  i don't want every single line to
show up as different just because of tab characters, so i need to find
a good solution on how to transform my indents back into tab
characters.  clearly the reverse -- "s,  ,^I," -- won't just work, as
there are places where two spaces exist that i wouldn't want a tab.
is there some way to open the file in emacs (in which i assumer it was
originally written; i use vim) and run it through a re-indentder with
hard tabs on?  or could i do this in vim?
suggestions & opinions welcome.  thanks a lot,



You could probably write a quick script that will eliminate all leading
spaces on every line.  Once that is done, just run it through indent.
man indent shows that there are tons options that will let you tune the
look of your source file.
HTH,

-Roberto


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apt-get install xfce4 or kde fails

[Johan Van den Neste]

what exactly does this mean?
can I do something to fix it?



Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xfce4: Depends: xfwm4 but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: xfwm4-themes but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: xfce4-mcs-plugins but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: xfce4-panel but it is not installable
 Depends: xfce4-themes but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: xfdesktop4 but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: xffm4 but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: xffm4-icons but it is not installable
 Depends: xfce4-utils but it is not going to be installed



Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kde-amusements but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kdemultimedia but it is not going to be installed



thx

nessie


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RE: Screen resolution with onboard graphics card

[DePriest, Jason R.]

> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Screen resolution with onboard graphics card
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I am trying to run debian on a machine with an onboard 
> graphics processor.
> When I run startx, the best resolution I can get is 640x480.  
> I've heard
> of ways of borrowing system memory to use for graphical memory, but I
> can't really find out how to do this.  Any tips?
> 
> Thanks much,
> Aaron Greene
> 
> 

What type of motherboard is it?

I have an IBM system with one of the newer Intel mother boards (built-in
video and ethernet), and the amount of RAM the video cards "borrows" was
configurable in the BIOS.  You should probably check that first.

-Jason


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Re: Tool to bounce mails

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> http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2001may/gee20010511005839.htm ?

Nice logo...where's the content?

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Re: Grub, latest adventure

[J Y]

Hi, 
This is my latest menu 1st. It doesn't work. Mostly I just boot whatever
I want from floppy. 
 SuSE (the 1st entry titled "linux" does boot) Maybe windows does now
too. I haven't checked that since  
my most recent editing. I did enter "grub" at a  terminal window, and
when I typed "root (' the response was  
"selected disk does not exsist"  When I typed 'kernel /'  I got "invalid
device requested". I also found I could produce 
 the same error (error 15: file system not found) which is what I get
now at start up when I click debian or slack,  
by entering 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz and the correct path. I do not know
what's wrong.  
   
gfxmenu (hd0,4)/message 
color white/blue black/light-gray 
default 0 
timeout 8 
 
title linux 
kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7  hdd=ide-scsi vga=791 
initrd (hd0,4)/initrd 
 
title floppy 
root (fd0) 
chainloader +1 
 
title failsafe 
kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz.shipped root=/dev/hda7 ide=nodma apm=off
acpi=off vga=normal nosmp maxcpus=0 disableapic 3 
initrd (hd0,4)/initrd.shipped 
 
title windows 
root  (hd0,0) 
chainloader (hd0,0)+1 
makeactive 
 
title debian3.0 
root (hd1,4) 
kernel (hd1,4)/vmlinuz-2.4.18-k7 root=/dev/hdb5 hdd=ide-scsi vga=791 
initrd (hd1,5)/initrd-2.4.18-k7 
 
title slackware9.0 
root (hd1,1) 
kernel (hd1,1)/vmlinuz-2.4.20 root=/dev/hdb2 hdd=ide-scsi vga=791 
initrd (hd1,1)/initrd-2.4.20 


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Re: fsck hangs my machine unpredictably

[Daniel B.]

"Monique Y. Herman" wrote:
> ...
> 
> If you already have it booted up, I believe that
>   tune2fs -i 0 -c 0 
> will totally disable any automatic checking of the drive in the future.

Doesn't that just prevent checking a filesystem that appears to be clean?

Once a filesystem is known to have errors, I don't think those settings
will stop fsck from running the next time.


 


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Re: fsck hangs my machine unpredictably

[Daniel B.]

"Monique Y. Herman" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 19:15 GMT, Rob Dupuis penned:
> > Hi All.
> >
> > My one of my hard drives has a whole load of errors on it. 
...> 
> Um, you do realize that if the hard drive is causing fsck to blow
> chunks, it's because the hard drive is defective and needs to be
> replaced, right?

Actually not.  There is no implication that the disk driver is going
bad, just that the data on the disk really corrupted.

The Linux kernel has had and still has a number bugs that can corrupt
the filesystem data on an IDE disk, especially when using DMA.

**Rob:  If you are using IDE disks (if you don't know that you have
SCSI disks, you most surely have IDE disks), you should immediately
disable DMA.  

(E.g., add "ide=nodma" to your kernel command line.  Where you can set 
your kernel command line depends on how you boot.)


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Re: man dangling symlink question

[Daniel B.]

"Monique Y. Herman" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 15:57 GMT, Daniel B. penned:
> > "Monique Y. Herman" wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: man dangling symlink question
> >
> > Well, I guess that's better than "man dangling from high bridge on
> > fraying rope" ...
> >
> >:-)
> >
> >
> > Daniel
> 
> I guess that depends on *which* man =P

True.  I wasn't thinking, of, say...spammers.


> "Hey, Fred, your symlink is dangling!"
> "Doh!  Thanks for telling me that before my presentation!"

Yeah, there's that direction too...

:-)


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