Re: LVM et Debian 4.0

2007-07-28 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO  En cette  nuit  nuageuse du  samedi  28 juillet  2007, vers  01:12,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (François TOURDE) disait:

 Il  y a  plusieurs couches.  Une partition  physique sera  un PV.  Un ou
 plusieurs  PV peuvent  contenir des  PV qui  peuvent alors  contenir des
 LV. Globalement, la réponse à ta question est donc oui.

 Oula... Un ou plusieurs PV peuvent contenir des PV ??? Tu peux
 détailler ?

Des VG en fait.
PV = physical volume
VG = volume group (les disques virtuels)
LV = logical volume (les partitions virtuelles)

 - L'augmentation d'un LVM conduit-elle à l'augmentation du FS que j'ai
 pû créer dedans? (ex: /var est dans un /LVMx ... Si j'augmente la
 taille de /LVMx est-ce magique?) J'y crois pas trop.
 
 Tu  augmentes le  LV puis  ensuite, tu  peux demander  à ton  système de
 fichiers  de prendre  l'espace ainsi  gagné.  Ils savent  tous le  faire
 aujourd'hui  et la  plupart savent  le faire  sans avoir  à  démonter la
 partition. Par exemple, avec ext3, tu peux utiliser resize2fs.

 Donc, si je mets plusieurs FS dans un même LV, seul celui qui est au
 bout pourra changer de taille, hein? Donc, je me dis: 1 FS = 1 LV.

Tu ne peux pas  mettre plusieurs FS sur un même LV  (en fait, sans doute
que si, mais c'est du bricolage).  Tu peux mettre plusieurs LV sur un VG
et un FS par  LV. Et un LV est vu comme un  espace contigu donc tous les
LV peuvent être agrandis (s'il reste de la place dans le VG).

 - Est-il raisonnable/judicieux de créer plusieurs FS dans un même LVM
 ?
 
 Il est judicieux de créer plusieurs LV pour cloisoner les choses.

 Dixit point précédent. C'est déjà plus clair.

 - Est-il raisonnable/judicieux de créer plusieurs LVM dans une même
 partition physique ?
 
 Oui. Pour simplifier ta  compréhension, tes partitions libres seront des
 PV. Tu ne  créeras qu'un seul VG qui couvrira l'ensemble  des PV et dans
 ce VG, tu vas créer autant de LV que tu veux.

 Eh, sois poli hein? Commence pas à parler de VG là... Je sais même pas
 ce que ça représente... 

 Bon... Petit schéma...

 Disk : |__ Partition 1 __|___ Free __|
 LV   : |__ LV1 __|__ LV2 |
 FS   : |_ Home __|_ /usr |

 Et si je veux augmenter /home:

 Disk : |__ Partition 1 __|__ Partition 2 ___|__ Free_|
 LV   : |__ LV1 __|__ LV2 |___ LV1-extent ___|
 FS   : |_ Home __|_ /usr |___ suite de home |

 J'ai bon là?

Oui.

 Oui, je sais que je devrais lire la doc, mais c'est tellement mieux
 avec des schémas et des gens qui parlent l'humain, comme moi.

Il doit y avoir des docs avec des schémas. :)
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Re: LVM et Debian 4.0

2007-07-28 Thread pascal
François TOURDE a écrit :

 Donc un niveau d'abstraction supplémentaire à ce que j'imaginais, les
 VG. Par contre, quel usage d'avoir plusieurs VG sur un PV? (si
 toutefois c'est possible).
Aucun je pense sinon la possibilité de le faire. S'il reste de l'espace
libre et qu'on souhaite rajouter au système quelque chose de différent
de ce qui y existe, hop, un nouveau VG et les LVS qui vont bien...
 
 Non, il faut le faire après coup.
 Suivant le FS, online (resize2fs) ou démonté (ext2resize).
 
 Ah ben ça je savais pas... J'imagine que ça s'applique aux systèmes
 sans LVM du coup A condition de pouvoir agrandir une partition.
 
 - Joan Baez viendra-t-elle chanter aux prochaines RMLL ?
 Je connais pas, mais ça m'étonnerait !
 
 Qui sait? C'est (c'était?) une chanteuse de folk américain, avec une
 belle voix, une belle guitare, et une belle gueule... à l'époque :)

A l'époque...
Récemment un jeune type m'a répondu :
Les Rolling Stones ?...heu nan...Je connais pas. 
Sacré coup de vieux dans les gencives...
 
 Utilise MD (Cf mdadm) et pas des driver pourris faisant croire qu'on a du 
 RAID 
 matériel.
 
 Non non, c'est du vrai raid matériel. Je n'ai pas d'interaction avec
 l'OS (pour le moment), étant donné que c'est du PATA, et que donc le
 hot-plug, c'est pas jouable facilement. Du coup, même si je dois
 repasser par le BIOS pour reconstruire, ça me gêne pas des masses.
 
 1 disque de 250Go, deux partitions (/boot et un PV (type de partition LVM) :
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
 Disque /dev/sda: 250.0 Go, 250059350016 octets
 255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste, 30401 cylindres
 Unités = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets
 Périphérique AmorceDébut Fin  BlocsId  Système
 /dev/sda1   1  12   96358+  83  Linux
 /dev/sda2  13   30401   244099642+  8e  Linux LVM
 
 Donc /boot ne peut pas être en LVM, c'est ça?
Nan nécessité d'initrd oblige.
Néanmoins le problème est que le chargeur de démarrage reconnaisse le
LVM. Donc si ce point est règlé, la nécesité d'un /boot non LVM disparaît.
 
 1 seul VG, car avec un PV, pas moyen de faire autrement :
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo vgs
   VG#PV #LV #SN Attr   VSize   VFree
   vgsys   1  11   0 wz--n- 232,79G 9,51G
 
 Mais si ton sda2 ne fait pas tout le disque, tu peux plus tard y créer
 une partition pour étendre ton VG?
Yes. On crée un PV pour accueillir l'espace libre (si ca n'a pas été
(imprudemment) déjà fait) et la commande vgextend pour agrandir le
volume group à la tailmle désirée (prise sur le PV tout frais).
 
 Mon PV :
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo pvs
   PV VGFmt  Attr PSize   PFree
   /dev/sda2  vgsys lvm2 a-   232,79G 9,51G
 
 Le PFree représente quoi là? La partie du PV non utilisée par des LV?
plutôt la quantité de Physical Extends (l'unité logique d'allocation)
non encore allouée.

 
 Et plein de LV :
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo lvs
   LVVGAttr   LSize  Origin Snap%  Move Log Copy%
 [...]
 
 La plupart de ces LVs sont formattés en ext3 :
 [...]
 Et les LVs restant, sont des images disque pour des machines virtuelles XEN.
 Et oui, il n'y a pas que les FS dans la vie, pour les bases de données ou 
 machines virtuelles, un raw device peut être utile et en LVM c'est toujours 
 aussi souple à gérer.
 
 Ah ouais, pas mal ça... Xen étant posé sur un LVM, il voit des LVs
 qui peuvent être vus par les OS hébergés comme des block
 devices... Giga cool ça...
 
 Ça me rapelle mon premier OS... VM/CMS :) Ça a l'âge de Joan Baez
 justement :)
C'était comment les premières voitures ?
P.


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Re: latex2rtf et texlive

2007-07-28 Thread Sébastien Mengin
Le 28 jui 2007 à 12:33, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit:
   Bogues #385237 [1] et #416277 [2].  Ces bogues sont clos :  le
 problème est réglé par la version 1.9.16a-3  (c???est la 1.9.16a-1
 qui est dans Etch).

Merci ta réponse.

Petite question supplémentaire : j'avais pris soin d'aller sur
bugs.debian.org avant de poster ici, et je n'ai pas réussi à trouver les
deux rapports que tu cites, en saisissant simplement latex2rtf dans le
champ de recherche. Quelles entrées as-tu saisi pour tomber là-dessus ?
 
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Re: LVM et Debian 4.0

2007-07-28 Thread François TOURDE
Le 13722ième jour après Epoch,
Vincent Bernat écrivait:


[... tout plein d'explications intéressantes ...]

 Oui, je sais que je devrais lire la doc, mais c'est tellement mieux
 avec des schémas et des gens qui parlent l'humain, comme moi.

 Il doit y avoir des docs avec des schémas. :)

Pas con :) ... Mais c'est trop tard. En 3/4 mails, je pense avoir
cerné les principaux concepts qui sous-tendent la notion de LVM, et
c'était le but pour moi.

Dorénavant, je vais pouvoir aborder la doc de LVM de façon plus
sereine, mais ces quelques mails ont suffit à me permettre d'installer
ma nouvelle machine.

Merci à toi ainsi qu'aux autres pour ces réponses, en tout cas.



[HS] Joan Baez et le temps de la vapeur [Was: LVM et Debian 4.0]

2007-07-28 Thread François TOURDE
Le 13722ième jour après Epoch,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait:

 François TOURDE a écrit :

 Qui sait? C'est (c'était?) une chanteuse de folk américain, avec une
 belle voix, une belle guitare, et une belle gueule... à l'époque :)

 A l'époque...
 Récemment un jeune type m'a répondu :
 Les Rolling Stones ?...heu nan...Je connais pas. 
 Sacré coup de vieux dans les gencives...

Ah, tu vois, ça fait mal hein? :)

 Ça me rapelle mon premier OS... VM/CMS :) Ça a l'âge de Joan Baez
 justement :)
 C'était comment les premières voitures ?

Pas mal, mais ils ont bien fait de remplacer le gros réservoir d'eau à
l'avant, et la grosse cheminée... Quoi que... À l'époque, les
émissions toxiques étaient moins élevées... ;)

PS: J'ai hésité entre répondre ça et t'en coller une, mais t'es trop
loin, et en plus t'es peut-être plus balaize que moi ^^ ...



Re: latex2rtf et texlive

2007-07-28 Thread Franck Joncourt
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 03:46:58PM +0200, Sébastien Mengin wrote:
 Le 28 jui 2007 à 12:33, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit:
Bogues #385237 [1] et #416277 [2].  Ces bogues sont clos :  le
  problème est réglé par la version 1.9.16a-3  (c???est la 1.9.16a-1
  qui est dans Etch).
 
 Merci ta réponse.
 
 Petite question supplémentaire : j'avais pris soin d'aller sur
 bugs.debian.org avant de poster ici, et je n'ai pas réussi à trouver les
 deux rapports que tu cites, en saisissant simplement latex2rtf dans le
 champ de recherche. Quelles entrées as-tu saisi pour tomber là-dessus ?
  

Les bugs pour le paquet :

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=latex2rtf;dist=unstable


Un lien vers les archived reports est disponible en haut de la page, et
te permet d'en savoir plus sur les anciens bugs.

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Re: latex2rtf et texlive

2007-07-28 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
Sébastien Mengin, samedi 28 juillet 2007, 15:46:58 CEST
 
 Le 28 jui 2007 à 12:33, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit:
Bogues #385237 [1] et #416277 [2].  Ces bogues sont clos :  le
  problème est réglé par la version 1.9.16a-3  (c???est la 1.9.16a-1
  qui est dans Etch).
 
 Merci ta réponse.

  De rien.

 Petite question supplémentaire : j'avais pris soin d'aller sur
 bugs.debian.org avant de poster ici, et je n'ai pas réussi à trouver les
 deux rapports que tu cites, en saisissant simplement latex2rtf dans le
 champ de recherche. Quelles entrées as-tu saisi pour tomber là-dessus ?

  Pareil que toi mais ensuite j’ai suivi le lien pour voir tous
les rapports. Il est dans la dernière phrase du texte avant les
rapports :
  See the archived reports or archived and unarchived reports

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Re: [testing] passage au 2.6.21

2007-07-28 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:02:55 +0200
Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:

 Le Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:29:28 +0200
 Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
 
  Bonjour,
  
  Le noyau 2.6.21 vient d'arriver dans testing. Est-ce qu'il y en a qui se
  sont lancé dans son installation?
  Des pièges?
  Comment ça se passe pour les drivers nvidia?
  
  Gaëtan
  
 
 Je viens de tenter de booter sur le 2.6.21-2 de testing. Résultat il bloque
 pendant le boot après le montage des disques. Mes disques sont des scsi.
 J'ai vu le bug #433127 dans lequel il est dit qu'il faut remplacé hda par sda
 mais comme moi je suis déjà en sda/sdb ...
 
 Gaëtan
 

Mon problème si je comprends bien les logs lors du boot (voir copie d'écran
ci-dessous):
http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_1.jpg
http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_2.jpg
http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_3.jpg
http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_4.jpg

c'est qu'il essaie de monter les systèmes de fichiers avant que les disques
n'aient été découvert, non?

Gaëtan


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[Installation] Lecteur non reconnu

2007-07-28 Thread Arnaud FELTZ
Bonjour la liste!

Je viens aujourd'hui même de monter ma toute nouvelle configuration avec de
nouveaux disques durs et tout et tout. Mon souci vient lors de
l'installation, je réussi à booter correctement sur le CD, mais lorsque je
passe à l'étape de détection du CD-Rom, il m'affiche une erreur me disant
qu'il ne peut pas le monter... C'est pareil sous les autres distributions,
mais je tiens à Debian. Vous savez de quoi peut venir le problème et comment
je peux le résoudre?

Mon lecteur est un  graveur DVD Samsung branché en IDE et j'ai deux disques
durs qui, eux, sont branchés en SATAII

Merci pour toute aide. (sinon je me verrais contraint d'installer Windows
:'( )


mémoire serveur X et E17

2007-07-28 Thread mcmcpc

Bonjour à tous
J'ai désactivé gnome  sur Etch et  j'ai installé E17, ça fonctionne 
bien, après quelques tâtonnements. 
Un truc étrange : gnome-system-monitor affiche tout sauf  la mémoire du 
serveur X. Si quelqu'un peut expliquer cela, merci.

Jerry

PS : pour ceux/celles que ça intéresse, à ajouter dans le sources.list  
de Etch pour installer E17 :


### Do NOT use another extra repositories on Elive, not use Debian SID 
or UBUNTU
###  repositories, NOT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH ELIVE, if you use any EXTRA 
repository

###  than those, you can broke your system, USE IT ON YOUR OWN RISK
### Elive repositories (select one). Important to are Elive the first of 
your list.

deb http://repository.elivecd.net elive main efl elive

La page d'Elive distribution basée à 95% sur Etch, utilisant E17 ou E16.
http://elivecd.org/
Pour télécharger Elive,
Le torrent Elive 1.0 Gem (Official stable release) :
http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=4322
Une page de linux.fr sur Elive :
http://linuxfr.org//~axel/24879.html



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Re: [testing] passage au 2.6.21

2007-07-28 Thread Jerome Moinet
 
 Mon problème si je comprends bien les logs lors du boot (voir copie d'écran
 ci-dessous):
 http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_1.jpg
 http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_2.jpg
 http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_3.jpg
 http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_4.jpg
 
 c'est qu'il essaie de monter les systèmes de fichiers avant que les disques
 n'aient été découvert, non?
 
J'ai eu le même souci avec une install testing sur une clé usb. La
solution (en tout cas celle que j'ai appliqué) est la suivante :

* création du fichier /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/00usb
* chmod 755 du fichier
* dedans il y a :
sleep 5
* reconstruction :
update-initramfs -u

D'après ce que j'ai compris, la prise en compte d'un disque usb est trop
lente par rapport au boot, d'où le sleep 5 en début de boot pour
attendre que le disque soit reconnu.

On dirait que le nouveau noyau traite les disques scsi comme des disques
usb (ou plutôt le contraire).

hope this helps

jerome


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Re: [testing] passage au 2.6.21

2007-07-28 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:07:28 +0200
Jerome Moinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:

  
  Mon problème si je comprends bien les logs lors du boot (voir copie d'écran
  ci-dessous):
  http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_1.jpg
  http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_2.jpg
  http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_3.jpg
  http://gaetan.perrier.free.fr/boot/2.6.21_boot_4.jpg
  
  c'est qu'il essaie de monter les systèmes de fichiers avant que les disques
  n'aient été découvert, non?
  
 J'ai eu le même souci avec une install testing sur une clé usb. La
 solution (en tout cas celle que j'ai appliqué) est la suivante :
 
 * création du fichier /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/00usb
 * chmod 755 du fichier
 * dedans il y a :
 sleep 5
 * reconstruction :
 update-initramfs -u
 
 D'après ce que j'ai compris, la prise en compte d'un disque usb est trop
 lente par rapport au boot, d'où le sleep 5 en début de boot pour
 attendre que le disque soit reconnu.
 
 On dirait que le nouveau noyau traite les disques scsi comme des disques
 usb (ou plutôt le contraire).
 
 hope this helps
 
 jerome
 

Oui ça tourne autour de ça effectivement. Je viens de trouver le bug #422217
qui décrit mon problème. Toujours sans solution à ce jour...

Gaëtan


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question de dépendance, lenny nfs-kernel-server _1:1.1.0-11

2007-07-28 Thread fully_associative-debian
Bonjour à tous,

(Je mets mes questions au début,
bien qu'elles devraient être à la fin :
1-- Qu'en est-il des dépendances un peu bizarres
que je décris ci-dessous, qu'en pensez vous ?
2-- nfs-kernel-server est il un bonne solution
pour agir sur un système de fichier distant, exactement
comme si on l'avait monté en local avec mount ?
3-- Est-ce que je peux supprimer mount, ça semble bizarre,
lire la suite. Où est mount_2.13 ?

Ce qui est probable c'est que je n'ai pas du tout comp-
pris les sens des sections remplace et est en conflit
avec de apt.

Dans l'alternative il y a un peu de fouilli dans ces dépendances
dans nfs-kernel-server et nfs-common.

FA)


Je souhaite monter un disque distant,
pour l'avoir chez moi, comme s'il était
bêtement là.

Mais ce n'est pas ça la question (pas pour l'inst-
ant du moins).

Je fais aptitude et là, je suis surpris par les info-
rmations sur les dépendances du paquet :
nfs-kernel-server_1:1.1.0-11

Ce que dit 
$ apt-cache show nfs-kernel-server
Package: nfs-kernel-server
Priority: optional
Section: net
Installed-Size: 352
Maintainer: Anibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Source: nfs-utils
Version: 1:1.1.0-11
Replaces: knfs, nfs-server
^^
Provides: knfs, nfs-server
Depends: nfs-common (= 1:1.0.8-1), ucf, lsb-base (= 1.3-9ubuntu3),
libblkid1 (= 1.39-1), libc6 (= 2.5-5), libcomerr2 (= 1.33-3),
libgssapi2, libkrb53 (= 1.6.dfsg.1), libnfsidmap2, librpcsecgss3,
libwrap0, libblkid1 (= 1.39+1.40-WIP-2006.11.14+dfsg-2)
Conflicts: knfs, nfs-server
^^^

J'ai souligné les lignes qui m'ont surprises.
Avec aptitude c'est plus flagrant,
car il dit clairement, avec les numérots de version
à l'appuis, qu'il est en conflit avec lui-même.

Pareil avec nfs-common
qui est en conflit avec nfs client : lui-même (!),

Et, ce qui m'a mis la puce à l'oreille,
c'est que nfs-common remplace mount (2.13~)
et que j'ai mount_2.12r-19
d'installé.
(Ainsi que nfs-common, je le répète).


Merci de me donner vos avis éclairés

FA





  
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Re: [Installation] Lecteur non reconnu

2007-07-28 Thread François TOURDE
Le 13722ième jour après Epoch,
Arnaud FELTZ écrivait:

 Bonjour la liste!

 Je viens aujourd'hui même de monter ma toute nouvelle configuration avec de
 nouveaux disques durs et tout et tout. Mon souci vient lors de
 l'installation, je réussi à booter correctement sur le CD, mais lorsque je
 passe à l'étape de détection du CD-Rom, il m'affiche une erreur me disant
 qu'il ne peut pas le monter... C'est pareil sous les autres distributions,
 mais je tiens à Debian. Vous savez de quoi peut venir le problème et comment
 je peux le résoudre?

Il m'est arrivé la même histoire hier, avec Debian 3.1 ... J'ai essayé
plusieurs lecteurs DVD ou CD différents, mais toujours la même
histoire.

Il se trouve que cette machine possède 2 contrôleurs IDE, un qui fait
SATA/PATA ou SATA/RAID sur lequel était branché le lecteur, et l'autre
qui fait PATA ou RAID.

Je suis passé en Debian 4.0 (Etch) avec le même installeur Netinstall,
et tout va bien.

A mon avis, c'est juste une question de pilote du contrôleur IDE, mais
pour être sûr, regarde les messages de la log lors du chargement des
pilotes. Tu peux avoir ça sur la console 4 il me semble, ou en lançant
un shell sur la console 2 avec un 'more /var/log/syslog'.



Upgradnąłe m sobie do etcha - xorg problem :(

2007-07-28 Thread Miroslaw Kwasniak
Cześć

Pora wakacyjna, wreszcie miałem czas przejść na etcha.

Ale mam wielki problem z X-ami :(

Mój sprzęt to athlon 1600xp na płycie gigabyte 7ZXE (kt133a) + karta Matrox
G450DH. Jądro dystrybucyjne 2.6.18-4-k7

Przy próbie odpalenia drugiego xserwera: startx -- :2
system zwisa totalnie - wyłącznie czarny ekran.

Co robić?

Mirek


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Re: administracion de red via web

2007-07-28 Thread Josu
El Monday 23 July 2007 19:18:20 Carlos Moreira escribió:
 hola, una consulta, existe alguna herramienta para administrar servicios
 DHCP y DNS mediante una interfase WEB??, o alguna aplicacion para
 utilizar desde gnome o kde, aunque prefiero la primer opcion, para asi
 no tener que instarlar gnome o kde en mis controladores de dominio,
 gracias. y salu2 Carlitos

  Busca dhcp web en http://www.freshmeat.net/ :

http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=dhcp+websection=projectsGo.x=0Go.y=0

Saludos.



Re: administracion de red via web

2007-07-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Josu,
Tambien tenes la herrramienta creo a mi parecer mas conocida sobre
administracion de servicios mediante un front-end web que es Webmin
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webmin.
Sitio oficial: http://www.webmin.com/
Aca te dejo un How To: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/Webmin.htm  perdon
pero esta en ingles.
Saludos.


Josu wrote:
 El Monday 23 July 2007 19:18:20 Carlos Moreira escribió:
   
 hola, una consulta, existe alguna herramienta para administrar servicios
 DHCP y DNS mediante una interfase WEB??, o alguna aplicacion para
 utilizar desde gnome o kde, aunque prefiero la primer opcion, para asi
 no tener que instarlar gnome o kde en mis controladores de dominio,
 gracias. y salu2 Carlitos
 

   Busca dhcp web en http://www.freshmeat.net/ :

 http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=dhcp+websection=projectsGo.x=0Go.y=0

 Saludos.


   



Re: administracion de red via web

2007-07-28 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
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Configura tu cliente de mail para quitar el HTML.

Agredes también con Top-Posting:

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Re: [snort]

2007-07-28 Thread Andres Gonzalez
On 7/27/07, Arrase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tengo la siguiente duda... voy a instalar un SNORT como IDS para
  generar reportes, etc. pero opcionalmente si es posible me gustaría
  instalar algo que en base a las alertas generadas por SNORT tome
  acciones (bloqueo, etc.). Alguien conoce algo ?

 http://snort-inline.sourceforge.net/

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opciones ya que parecen todas interesantes para luego poder evaluar
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Alguien me puede pasar un torren con Matlab para debian?

2007-07-28 Thread Gabo
Será que existe Matlab para debian 4 y alguien me puede pasar un torrent? y
si no es mucho pedir, como se puede crackear?


Re: Alguien me puede pasar un torren con Matlab para debian?

2007-07-28 Thread Mario Tello

Gabo escribió:
Será que existe Matlab para debian 4 y alguien me puede pasar un 
torrent? y si no es mucho pedir, como se puede crackear?

Mejor busca una alternativa

http://alts.homelinux.net/task.php?task=mathview=alt


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Re: Alguien me puede pasar un torren con Matlab para debian?

2007-07-28 Thread Alfredo Finol F
El sáb, 28-07-2007 a las 09:30 -0500, Gabo escribió:
 Será que existe Matlab para debian 4 y alguien me puede pasar un
 torrent? y si no es mucho pedir, como se puede crackear?

Metete en http://www.isohunt.com alli hay muchos torrents de Matlab, te
recomiendo que busques con Matlab 7.


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Sin multimedia luego de actualizar etch a lenny

2007-07-28 Thread Constructora Pando
He actualizado mi 'etch' a ''lenny'

algunos datos:
pandorolof:/home/ale# uname -a
Linux pandorolof 2.6.21-2-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 10 21:39:38 UTC 2007
x86_64 GNU/Linux

El problema que tengo ahora es que ningun reproductor tiene sonido:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/video$ mpg123 one.ogg
...
[../../../src/audio.c:269] error: Unable to set up output device!
Constraints: 44100, 22050 or 11025Hz.
...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/video$ mplayer
Violación de segmento

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/video$ xine
Esto es xine (IGU X11) - un reproductor de vídeo libre v0.99.5.
(c) 2000-2007 El Equipo de xine.
Violación de segmento

Pero si me voy a knotify  sonido  notificaciones: los sonidos  de
los eventos se reproducen sin problemas...

KinfoCenter  se cae al tratar de seleccionar alguna de sus opciones

no tengo instalado ninguna herramienta 'alsa', y si trato de buscar
alsaconfig no la encuentro en los respositarios:

pandorolof:/home/ale# aptitude install alsa
alsa   alsa-oss  alsaplayer-esd alsaplayer-oss
alsa-tools
alsa-base  alsaplayer  alsaplayer-gtk alsaplayer-output
  alsa-tools-gui
alsa-firmware-loaders   alsaplayer-alsaalsaplayer-interface
alsaplayer-textalsa-utils
alsa-headersalsaplayer-common  alsaplayer-jackalsaplayer-xosd
alsamixergui alsaplayer-daemon  alsaplayer-nas alsa-source

tengo instalado lo siguiente referente a alsa:
 i   alsa-base
i   gstreamer0.10-alsa
i   gstreamer0.8-alsa
i   libesd-alsa0
i   libpt-plugins-alsa
i   libsdl1.2debian-alsa

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/video$ lspci
00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97
Audio Controller (rev a2)

- inicio mi source.list -
##  lenny  etch #
deb http://debian.ubiobio.cl/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb http://debian.ubiobio.cl/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://debian.ubiobio.cl/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb-src http://debian.ubiobio.cl/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib

deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib

deb http://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb http://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb-src http://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/ etch main non-free contrib

### Ya no me acuerdo para que puse esta linea
deb http://ftp.debian.org testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
 otras 

deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
#
# MythTv  avidemux, mythtv,
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
##Swiftfox 2
deb http://getswiftfox.com/builds/debian unstable non-free
## instalar y configurar Xgl en Debian Lenny
deb http://www.prato.linux.it/~mnencia/debian xgl/
deb-src http://www.prato.linux.it/~mnencia/debian xgl/
### emacs 22 ###
deb http://emacs.orebokech.com sarge main
deb-src http://emacs.orebokech.com sarge main
 multimedia #
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main

## para 'acroread' #
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
-- Fin mi source.list -

En mi particion de knoppix el sonido y multimedia en general funcionan
muy bien (para descartar que sea problema de hareware)

Agradecere me den alguna pista que es lo que podria estar fallando
¿Sera el sorce.list?

salu2 a to2
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Re: Sin multimedia luego de actualizar etch a lenny

2007-07-28 Thread José Arcángel Salazar Delgado

Constructora Pando escribió:

He actualizado mi 'etch' a ''lenny'

algunos datos:
pandorolof:/home/ale# uname -a
Linux pandorolof 2.6.21-2-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 10 21:39:38 UTC 2007
x86_64 GNU/Linux

El problema que tengo ahora es que ningun reproductor tiene sonido:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/video$ mpg123 one.ogg
...
[../../../src/audio.c:269] error: Unable to set up output device!
Constraints: 44100, 22050 or 11025Hz.
...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/video$ mplayer
Violación de segmento

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/video$ xine
Esto es xine (IGU X11) - un reproductor de vídeo libre v0.99.5.
(c) 2000-2007 El Equipo de xine.
Violación de segmento

Pero si me voy a knotify  sonido  notificaciones: los sonidos  de
los eventos se reproducen sin problemas...

KinfoCenter  se cae al tratar de seleccionar alguna de sus opciones

no tengo instalado ninguna herramienta 'alsa', y si trato de buscar
alsaconfig no la encuentro en los respositarios:

pandorolof:/home/ale# aptitude install alsa
alsa   alsa-oss  alsaplayer-esd alsaplayer-oss
alsa-tools
alsa-base  alsaplayer  alsaplayer-gtk alsaplayer-output
  alsa-tools-gui
alsa-firmware-loaders   alsaplayer-alsaalsaplayer-interface
alsaplayer-textalsa-utils
alsa-headersalsaplayer-common  alsaplayer-jackalsaplayer-xosd
alsamixergui alsaplayer-daemon  alsaplayer-nas alsa-source

tengo instalado lo siguiente referente a alsa:
 i   alsa-base
i   gstreamer0.10-alsa
i   gstreamer0.8-alsa
i   libesd-alsa0
i   libpt-plugins-alsa
i   libsdl1.2debian-alsa

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/video$ lspci
00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97
Audio Controller (rev a2)

- inicio mi source.list -
##  lenny  etch #
deb http://debian.ubiobio.cl/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb http://debian.ubiobio.cl/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://debian.ubiobio.cl/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb-src http://debian.ubiobio.cl/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib

deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib

deb http://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb http://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb-src http://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/ etch main non-free contrib

### Ya no me acuerdo para que puse esta linea
deb http://ftp.debian.org testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
 otras 

deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
#
# MythTv  avidemux, mythtv,
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
##Swiftfox 2
deb http://getswiftfox.com/builds/debian unstable non-free
## instalar y configurar Xgl en Debian Lenny
deb http://www.prato.linux.it/~mnencia/debian xgl/
deb-src http://www.prato.linux.it/~mnencia/debian xgl/
### emacs 22 ###
deb http://emacs.orebokech.com sarge main
deb-src http://emacs.orebokech.com sarge main
 multimedia #
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main

## para 'acroread' #
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
-- Fin mi source.list -

En mi particion de knoppix el sonido y multimedia en general funcionan
muy bien (para descartar que sea problema de hareware)

Agradecere me den alguna pista que es lo que podria estar fallando
¿Sera el sorce.list?

  
A mi me suena a que no tienes levantado el modulo de la tarjeta, o no 
tienes permisos para acceder a el.

salu2 a to2
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Re: Alguien me puede pasar un torren con Matlab para debian?

2007-07-28 Thread Manolo Díaz
Gabo escribió:
 Será que existe Matlab para debian 4 y alguien me puede pasar un
 torrent? y si no es mucho pedir, como se puede crackear? 
¿Crackear? ¿Seguro de que estás en la lista adecuada?

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Cambio de nombre de usuario y contraseña e n adsl con Debian Etch 4.0

2007-07-28 Thread Jorge Constanzo
Estimada gente de la lista: Les comento que recientemente en la oficina 
cambiamos de velocidad con respecto a una conexion adsl (les comento que  
vivo en Argentina y el isp es telefonica, y el servicio es speedy), teniamos 
una conexion de 256 kb y nos cambiamos a una de 512 kb, el problema surge con 
lo siguiente, la gente de telefonica, nos cambio el nombre de usuario, entonces 
tengo un servidor con debian etch 4.0r0, que era el que compartia la conexion a 
internet dentro de la lan, y que ahora no encuentro como hacer para que pueda 
cambiar el nombre de usuario y contrasenia en la conexion, y este acceda 
correctamente al servicio de internet, les comento que antes del cambio se 
conectaba sin problemas, pero ahora cuando corro el script que inicia la 
conexion, no da ningun tipo de error, pero evidentemente no esta conectado, 
porque no se puede utilizar ningun servicio de internet, probe con el 
pppoeconf pero cuando hace el procedimiento de reconocimiento del modem adsl
 me dice que no hay ninguno conectado a la interface o bien que un servicio ppp 
tiene el control del mismo, entonces la pregunta es:
* como hago para cambiar el nombre de usuario y contrasenia para que vuelva a 
tener internet el servidor, o como se hace en estos casos cuando solo se cambio 
el usuario del mismo servicio.

Espero sus sugerencias y desde ya muchisimas gracias




   
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Re: Alguien me puede pasar un torren con Matlab para debian?

2007-07-28 Thread Sergio Vernis
En Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:30:17 -0500
Gabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Será que existe Matlab para debian 4 y alguien me puede pasar un torrent? y
 si no es mucho pedir, como se puede crackear?

Con:

$ apt-cache search matlab | sort

Puedes tener algunos resultados.

Te sugiero empezar por:

r-base-core - GNU R core of statistical computing language and environment
r-base - GNU R statistical computing language and environment
scilab-bin - Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)
scilab-doc - Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)
scilab - Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)

Saludos cordiales

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Lenovo 3000 c200 y sonido

2007-07-28 Thread Ivan Vanney
Buenas, instale Debian Stable 4.0 y todo funciona barbaro menos el
sonido...solo funciona si enchufo auriculares y se escucha muy bajo...con
mucha dificultad, el alsa detecta la tarjeta, y el alsamixer no esta en mute
como ningun mixer.
En el gnome sin embargo en el icono de parlantito me aparece una X ,aunque
nada esta en mute y todos los volumenes estan al maximo.
Buscando en google vi que todos los q tienen esta laptop pasan por lo mismo,
soluciones vi unicamente para Ubuntu, y ademas en una web de laptops para
Linux decia q la ultima version de ALSA corrigio la falla, intente
instalarla y me hizo lio con el sources del kernel, a pesar de q tb los
habia instalado y ya ni el dmesg me la detectaba y asi reinstale Debian otra
vez...
Si alguien tiene la misma laptop y encontro la solucion con Debian lo
agradeceria,un saludo.


Re: Alguien me puede pasar un torren con Matlab para debian?

2007-07-28 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

Gabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:


Será que existe Matlab para debian 4 y alguien me puede pasar un torrent? y
si no es mucho pedir, como se puede crackear?




Bueno, existe Matlab para Linux, en mi trabajo hay gente usando.

Como alternativa en el mundo del software podés probar Octave, pero hay 
que reconocer que no es lo mismo que Matlab.


Saludos.

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Facultad de Ciencias - http://www.fcien.edu.uy
Universidad de la República - http://www.rau.edu.uy


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Re: Alguien me puede pasar un torren con Matlab para debian?

2007-07-28 Thread Gustavo Conradi

El Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:59:04 -0300
Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  Gabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
  
  Será que existe Matlab para debian 4 y alguien me puede pasar un
  torrent? y si no es mucho pedir, como se puede crackear?
  
 
 Bueno, existe Matlab para Linux, en mi trabajo hay gente usando.
 
 Como alternativa en el mundo del software podés probar Octave, pero
 hay que reconocer que no es lo mismo que Matlab.
 
 Saludos.
 

Creí que ya lo conocían, pero ...

Uso el XMaxima o wxMaxima o Maxima
Los dos primeros en ambiente gráfico, el ultimo en
consola

Slds



Re: Não tenho mais som

2007-07-28 Thread Sávio Ramos
Em Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:41:38 -0300 (ART)
henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Menos mal. (mas que eu ainda estou procurando um modo à-lá-debian de
 não ter que reiniciar o pc para configurar o som, eu estou sim... rs) 

Eu sempre configurei o som sem precisar re-iniciar o micro. Aliás, para
um módulo funcionar basta carrega-lo, não é assim em qualquer Linux?

O que deve ter acontecido (chute de leigo) é que o programa que
administra os módulos necessita ler o arquivo de configuração quando
começa a rodar. Como este programa é chamado no início da partida do
micro há necessidade do re-início. Se ele puder ser re-iniciado
novamente sem se religar a máquina... Não quero nem tentar deve dar
pau...

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Re: como traduzo o gnome e sistema do ingles para portugues?

2007-07-28 Thread Sávio Ramos
Em Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:55:43 -0300
_Anubis_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 simples, quando instalei o debain e entrou automaticamente no modo de 
 pouca RAM,

Curiosidade... Quanto de RAM possui a máquina?

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Como descobrir o q tá sendo DROPADO no iptables???

2007-07-28 Thread Marcelo Castilho Manzano
Gente, minha política é DROP para tudo.
Libero algumas exceções.
Gostaria de descobrir qual o arquivo que guarda os logs de todas as
requisições que foram feitas e DROPADAS.
Ex: Acabo de testar o RemoteDesktop Client do debian 4 pois usava ele pra
me conectar na minha estação windows XP antes de adotar a política DROP,
porém agora a polítca está DROPANDO tudo e eu não sei ver qual porta ele
requisita pra sair, qual protocolo ele utiliza etc...
Gostaria de aprender a descobrir essas informações e não que alguem
simplesmente me informasse por qual porta ele sai, pois sei que vão
acontecer outras situações e quero me virar sozinho.

tks, abraço!

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Re: Como descobrir o q tá sendo DROPADO n o iptables???

2007-07-28 Thread Roberson Carvalho




Bom dia,

Em relao ao log do iptables, voc precisa escrever a regra com alvo
-j LOG, veja na man para maiores detalhes. 
Em relao ao arquivo de log verifique no /etc/syslog.conf.

Voc pode usar o sniffer tcpdump para capturar pacotes oriundo do seu
host ou da rede.

Isso  um bom comeo,

flw()

Marcelo Castilho Manzano escreveu:
Gente, minha poltica  DROP para tudo.
Libero algumas excees.
Gostaria de descobrir qual o arquivo que guarda os logs de todas as
requisies que foram feitas e DROPADAS.
Ex: Acabo de testar o "RemoteDesktop Client" do debian 4 pois usava ele
pra me conectar na minha estao windows XP antes de adotar a poltica
DROP, porm agora a poltca est DROPANDO tudo e eu no sei ver qual
porta ele requisita pra sair, qual protocolo ele utiliza etc...
  
Gostaria de aprender a descobrir essas informaes e no que alguem
simplesmente me informasse por qual porta ele sai, pois sei que vo
acontecer outras situaes e quero me virar sozinho.
  
tks, abrao!
  
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Re: Roteamento Linux - 2 ADSL

2007-07-28 Thread Tadeu Cruz
tenta usar tambem o shorewall
facilita muito a vida 

Em Sex, 2007-07-20 às 15:07 -0300, Denis escreveu:
 Dá uma pesquisada em iproute2 roteando pela origem
 
 vai achar bastante coisa.
 
 Em 20/07/07, Gustavo Carvalho[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  Galera,
 
  tenho meu server com tres interfaces de rede.
 
  eth0 - REde Local
  eth1 - ADSL
  eth2 - ADSL
 
  Por padrao a rota da net para rede interna é a eth1.
  Tenho uma equipe de desenvolvimento que ira usar o ADSL na eth2 para poder
  dar manutençao no sistema.
 
  Para fazer o teste de conexoes no FIREWALL liberei eles a porta 3389 no eth1
  acessando a maquina na rede. Funcionou blz
  Depois tentei mudar e interface para a eth2 que eles irao usar e nao foi.
 
  Algumas pessoas me falaram que provavelmetne é por causa das rota padrao.
  Ele ta entrando pela eth2 mas a resposta ta indo pela rota padrao eth1.
  Como posso fazer para adicionar uma rota, onde tudo que for do ip do
  desenvolvimento, passe pela eth2.
 
 
  Alguem pode me ajudar.
 
  Att
  Gustavo
 
 


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Re: Como descobrir o q tá sendo DROPADO no iptables???

2007-07-28 Thread Davi
Em Sábado 28 Julho 2007 08:22, Marcelo Castilho Manzano escreveu:
 Gente, minha política é DROP para tudo.
 Libero algumas exceções.
 Gostaria de descobrir qual o arquivo que guarda os logs de todas as
 requisições que foram feitas e DROPADAS.

Que tal postar teu script de Firewall? :-)

Bom... Presumo que você esteja usando:

[regras]
[...]
iptables -P OUTPUT DROP

Ou algo assim, certo?
Então, antes dessa linha (antes da linha que você define que tudo será 
negado), coloque a linha para logar tudo...

iptables --[append|insert] chain regra --jump LOG

Isso é o básico e já vai logar.
Os logs são jogados no /var/log/syslog.

Antes de colocar essa linha para funcionar, dê uma lida no manual do 
Iptables:

$ man iptables

Mais especificamente, na seção TARGET EXTENSIONS.

 Ex: Acabo de testar o RemoteDesktop Client do debian 4 pois usava ele pra
 me conectar na minha estação windows XP antes de adotar a política DROP,
 porém agora a polítca está DROPANDO tudo e eu não sei ver qual porta ele
 requisita pra sair, qual protocolo ele utiliza etc...

Deu uma procurado no /etc/services? Não vi nada, mas normalmente esse 
arquivo 
pode ser de grande ajuda...

Divirta-se e conte-nos os resultados... :-)

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Fazer loop fisico em placa de rede.

2007-07-28 Thread Anacleto Pavão
Ola pessoal.

Alguem ja tentou fazer um loop fisico em uma segunda placa de rede para colocar 
o proxy para funcionar em uma so maquina eu imagino que isso iria levantar a 
interface desta segunda placa de rede permitindo assim em um so equipamento 
fazer o um firewall/proxy funcionar normalmente. Obrigado.

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Re: Fazer loop fisico em placa de rede.

2007-07-28 Thread Cesar Gimenes
Em Sábado 28 Julho 2007 09:05, Anacleto Pavão escreveu:
 Alguem ja tentou fazer um loop fisico em uma segunda placa de rede para
 colocar o proxy para funcionar em uma so maquina eu imagino que isso iria
 levantar a interface desta segunda placa de rede permitindo assim em um
 so equipamento fazer o um firewall/proxy funcionar normalmente. Obrigado.

Não entendi bem o que você quer fazer, mas para ligar uma placa na outra 
bastaria um cabo crossover, agora se você quer apenas que a placa pense que 
esta ligada em uma rede é só pegar um RJ45 e clipar ligando o pino 1 ao 3 e 
o 2 ao 6 e pronto esta feito o loopback.



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Re: como montar um server web e rede local

2007-07-28 Thread Leonardo Rosa
Cara, se for pra testar as páginas que você faz, basta você instalar o
apache, php, mysql ou postgres.
Coloque os dois computadores numa mesma classe.
Por padrão quando se instala o apache o diretório padrão fica sendo
/var/www.
Basta você copiar suas páginas para essa pasta e você terá acesso na sua
rede local.
Na máquina cliente você digitará algo do tipo:
http://192.168.12.1/suaspaginas.html(.php ,js)

Com relação a enxergar todo a partição da outra máquina você exportar os
arquivos via samba sem problemas.
Para enxergar a partição do linux no windows :
http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dicas/verDica.php?codigo=1227
Para enxergar a partição do windows no linux faça:
#mkdir /mnt/windows
#mount -t tipodepartição dispositivo /mnt/windows
ex.: mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows

O tipo de partição e o dispositivo pode variar.
Espero ter ajudado.

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Re: Fazer loop fisico em placa de rede.

2007-07-28 Thread Anacleto Pavão
Era isso que eu queria. Abraço e obrigado.

Cesar Gimenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:  Em Sábado 28 Julho 2007 09:05, 
Anacleto Pavão escreveu:
 Alguem ja tentou fazer um loop fisico em uma segunda placa de rede para
 colocar o proxy para funcionar em uma so maquina eu imagino que isso iria
 levantar a interface desta segunda placa de rede permitindo assim em um
 so equipamento fazer o um firewall/proxy funcionar normalmente. Obrigado.

Não entendi bem o que você quer fazer, mas para ligar uma placa na outra 
bastaria um cabo crossover, agora se você quer apenas que a placa pense que 
esta ligada em uma rede é só pegar um RJ45 e clipar ligando o pino 1 ao 3 e 
o 2 ao 6 e pronto esta feito o loopback.



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Re: como traduzo o gnome e sistema do ingles para portugues?

2007-07-28 Thread _Anubis_



Sávio Ramos escreveu:

Em Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:55:43 -0300
_Anubis_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  
simples, quando instalei o debain e entrou automaticamente no modo de 
pouca RAM,



Curiosidade... Quanto de RAM possui a máquina?

  

tem 64mb de RAM, e está rodando o Debian Lenny


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Re: problemas com o squid

2007-07-28 Thread Márcio Pedroso
desculpe, mas voce nao leu o meu email entao. concordo que nao coloquei o
que tem na linha 74, por achar que o erro nao esta la, e sim no squid.conf.
a versao do squid esta citada no inicio do email. se alguem ja passou por
esse problema e pode me ajudar fico grato.

Em 27/07/07, Márcio Pedroso [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 estou instalando o squid, 2.6 no debian etch. coloquei um .conf basico
 nele e ele me retornou um erro, coloquei o original e retornou o mesmo erro.
 Page faults with physical i/o: 0
 /etc/init.d/squid: line 74:  2343 Abortado
 start-stop-daemon --quiet --start --pidfile $PIDFILE --chuid $CHUID --exec
 $DAEMON -- $SQUID_ARGS /dev/null
  failed!
 se puder me dar uma mao

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Re: problemas com o squid

2007-07-28 Thread Edmundo Valle Neto

Márcio Pedroso escreveu:
desculpe, mas voce nao leu o meu email entao. concordo que nao 
coloquei o que tem na linha 74, por achar que o erro nao esta la, e 
sim no squid.conf. a versao do squid esta citada no inicio do email. 
se alguem ja passou por esse problema e pode me ajudar fico grato.


Em 27/07/07, *Márcio Pedroso* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:


estou instalando o squid, 2.6 no debian etch. coloquei um .conf
basico nele e ele me retornou um erro, coloquei o original e
retornou o mesmo erro.
Page faults with physical i/o: 0
/etc/init.d/squid: line 74:  2343 Abortado   
start-stop-daemon --quiet --start --pidfile $PIDFILE --chuid

$CHUID --exec $DAEMON -- $SQUID_ARGS /dev/null
 failed!
se puder me dar uma mao




(...)


Não entendi o andamento da thread, você respondeu pra você mesmo sem 
nunca ter havido um comentário em cima do e-mail anterior.


O erro apenas diz que a execução do squid falhou (na linha do init 
script que faz sua execução, obviamente), mas não há nada no seu e-mail 
que indique o que aconteceu.


Existe alguma informação útil no arquivo cache.log?


Atenciosamente.

Edmundo Valle Neto


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Re: problemas com o squid

2007-07-28 Thread Márcio Pedroso
ola
entao o rssad respondeu pro meu end de email ao inves do email da lista.
tentei acessar o arquivo citado e nao o encontrei. eu sou bem novado em
squid, e vou postar o que eu fiz ate agora no meu squid.conf

http_port 192.168.0.1:3128 transparent

access_log /var/log/squid/access.log
cache_log /var/log/squid/cache.log
cache_log /var/log/squid/store.log
cache_swap_log /var/log/squid/swap.log

hierarchy_stoplist cgi-bin ?

cache_mem 56 MB
cache_swap_low 90
cache_swap_high 95
maximum_object_size 1 KB
minimum_object_size 0 KB
maximum_object_size_in_memory 4000 KB

check_hostnames off

error_directory /usr/share/squid/errors/Portuguese


acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
always_direct allow all
acl manager proto cache_object
acl localhost src 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255
acl to_localhost dst 127.0.0.0/8
acl SSL_ports port 443 563
acl Safe_ports port 80  # http
acl Safe_ports port 21  # ftp
acl Safe_ports port 443 563 # https, snews
acl Safe_ports port 70  # gopher
acl Safe_ports port 210 # wais
acl Safe_ports port 1025-65535  # unregistered ports
acl Safe_ports port 280 # http-mgmt
acl Safe_ports port 488 # gss-http
acl Safe_ports port 591 # filemaker
acl Safe_ports port 777 # multiling http
acl CONNECT method CONNECT

acredito que o erro se encontra aqui mas aonde eu nao sei
obrigado desde ja

Em 27/07/07, Márcio Pedroso [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 estou instalando o squid, 2.6 no debian etch. coloquei um .conf basico
 nele e ele me retornou um erro, coloquei o original e retornou o mesmo erro.
 Page faults with physical i/o: 0
 /etc/init.d/squid: line 74:  2343 Abortado
 start-stop-daemon --quiet --start --pidfile $PIDFILE --chuid $CHUID --exec
 $DAEMON -- $SQUID_ARGS /dev/null
  failed!
 se puder me dar uma mao

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Re: problemas com o squid

2007-07-28 Thread Edmundo Valle Neto

Márcio Pedroso escreveu:

ola
entao o rssad respondeu pro meu end de email ao inves do email da lista.


Você repondeu à uma resposta sua novamente e o endereço que eu utilizei 
foi o da lista.



tentei acessar o arquivo citado e nao o encontrei.


/var/log/squid/cache.log não existe?

eu sou bem novado em squid, e vou postar o que eu fiz ate agora no meu 
squid.conf


http_port 192.168.0.1:3128 http://192.168.0.1:3128 transparent

access_log /var/log/squid/access.log
cache_log /var/log/squid/cache.log
cache_log /var/log/squid/store.log
cache_swap_log /var/log/squid/swap.log

hierarchy_stoplist cgi-bin ?

cache_mem 56 MB
cache_swap_low 90
cache_swap_high 95
maximum_object_size 1 KB
minimum_object_size 0 KB
maximum_object_size_in_memory 4000 KB

check_hostnames off

error_directory /usr/share/squid/errors/Portuguese


acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 http://0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
always_direct allow all
acl manager proto cache_object
acl localhost src 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255 
http://127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255

acl to_localhost dst 127.0.0.0/8 http://127.0.0.0/8
acl SSL_ports port 443 563
acl Safe_ports port 80  # http
acl Safe_ports port 21  # ftp
acl Safe_ports port 443 563 # https, snews
acl Safe_ports port 70  # gopher
acl Safe_ports port 210 # wais
acl Safe_ports port 1025-65535  # unregistered ports
acl Safe_ports port 280 # http-mgmt
acl Safe_ports port 488 # gss-http
acl Safe_ports port 591 # filemaker
acl Safe_ports port 777 # multiling http
acl CONNECT method CONNECT

acredito que o erro se encontra aqui mas aonde eu nao sei
obrigado desde ja


Por quê você acha que existe um erro no seu arquivo de configuração se 
conforme um e-mail anterior você escreveu que o squid não inicia mesmo 
com o arquivo de configuração original?


(...)

Ou você tenta fazer ele gerar algum log de erro (preferido) ou inicia o 
daemon na mão e força alguma mensagem de debug ser escrita na tela.



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Re: problemas com o squid

2007-07-28 Thread Márcio Pedroso
desculpe se nao me fiz entender, mas eu falava que o rssad tinha respondido
para o meu email pessoal e nao voce, edmundo

quando eu restarto o squid, ele me retorna o seguinte

tc/init.d/squid restart
Restarting Squid HTTP proxy: squid* Creating squid spool directory structure
FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please set
'visible_hostname'

Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE5): Terminated abnormally.
CPU Usage: 0.032 seconds = 0.024 user + 0.008 sys
Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB
Page faults with physical i/o: 9
/etc/init.d/squid: line 74:  4399 Abortado$DAEMON -z
FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please set
'visible_hostname'

Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE5): Terminated abnormally.
CPU Usage: 0.044 seconds = 0.020 user + 0.024 sys
Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB
Page faults with physical i/o: 0
/etc/init.d/squid: line 74:  4401 Abortadostart-stop-daemon
--quiet --start --pidfile $PIDFILE --chuid $CHUID --exec $DAEMON --
$SQUID_ARGS /dev/null
 failed!


eu andei recompilando o kernel pra instalar o layer7, pode ser ai o
problema??

Em 28/07/07, Márcio Pedroso [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 ola
 entao o rssad respondeu pro meu end de email ao inves do email da lista.
 tentei acessar o arquivo citado e nao o encontrei. eu sou bem novado em
 squid, e vou postar o que eu fiz ate agora no meu squid.conf

 http_port 192.168.0.1:3128 transparent

 access_log /var/log/squid/access.log
 cache_log /var/log/squid/cache.log
 cache_log /var/log/squid/store.log
 cache_swap_log /var/log/squid/swap.log

 hierarchy_stoplist cgi-bin ?

 cache_mem 56 MB
 cache_swap_low 90
 cache_swap_high 95
 maximum_object_size 1 KB
 minimum_object_size 0 KB
 maximum_object_size_in_memory 4000 KB

 check_hostnames off

 error_directory /usr/share/squid/errors/Portuguese


 acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
 always_direct allow all
 acl manager proto cache_object
 acl localhost src 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255
 acl to_localhost dst 127.0.0.0/8
 acl SSL_ports port 443 563
 acl Safe_ports port 80  # http
 acl Safe_ports port 21  # ftp
 acl Safe_ports port 443 563 # https, snews
 acl Safe_ports port 70  # gopher
 acl Safe_ports port 210 # wais
 acl Safe_ports port 1025-65535  # unregistered ports
 acl Safe_ports port 280 # http-mgmt
 acl Safe_ports port 488 # gss-http
 acl Safe_ports port 591 # filemaker
 acl Safe_ports port 777 # multiling http
 acl CONNECT method CONNECT

 acredito que o erro se encontra aqui mas aonde eu nao sei
 obrigado desde ja

 Em 27/07/07, Márcio Pedroso [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  estou instalando o squid, 2.6 no debian etch. coloquei um .conf basico
  nele e ele me retornou um erro, coloquei o original e retornou o mesmo erro.
  Page faults with physical i/o: 0
  /etc/init.d/squid: line 74:  2343 Abortado
  start-stop-daemon --quiet --start --pidfile $PIDFILE --chuid $CHUID --exec
  $DAEMON -- $SQUID_ARGS /dev/null
   failed!
  se puder me dar uma mao
 
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Compartilhando HP 1310 Multifuncional para maquinas Windows

2007-07-28 Thread Rodrigo Tavares
Pessoal,

Instalei o pacote hplip, e configurei minha HP
Multifuncional, ja configurei no Samba, na qual
encontro a impressora. O driver é requerido. Qual
driver que devo  usar ? Com o do cd da impressora não
funcinou.

Att,

Faria 


  Flickr agora em português. Você cria, todo mundo vê.
http://www.flickr.com.br/


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Re: problemas com o squid

2007-07-28 Thread Edmundo Valle Neto

Márcio Pedroso escreveu:
desculpe se nao me fiz entender, mas eu falava que o rssad tinha 
respondido para o meu email pessoal e nao voce, edmundo


Sim você se fez entender, mas continua respondendo à mensagens que só 
contém coisas que VOCÊ escreveu, este e-mail contém:


...
Em 28/07/07, *Márcio Pedroso*  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

...

É uma resposta SUA a uma mensagem SUA se referindo a coisas (que neste 
caso fui eu que respondi) mas NÃO CONTÉM ELAS. É a mesma coisa que você 
responder a uma mensagem contida nos Items Enviados se referindo a 
outra mensagem recebida como reposta ao e-mail sendo respondido.



quando eu restarto o squid, ele me retorna o seguinte

tc/init.d/squid restart
Restarting Squid HTTP proxy: squid* Creating squid spool directory 
structure
FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please set 
'visible_hostname'


Isso é um problema conhecido do squid. Ele não inicia se não conseguir 
associar um nome totalmente qualificado ao host. Segue o link no qual o 
Luigi Gangitano (mantenedor do pacote) escreveu algo a respeito, quando 
foi criado um bug report: 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=396028


Você tem que configurar o parâmetro visible_hostname no squid.conf 
caso o seu servidor não tenha um FQDN, caso contrário ele se recusa a 
iniciar.



Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE5): Terminated abnormally.
CPU Usage: 0.032 seconds = 0.024 user + 0.008 sys
Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB
Page faults with physical i/o: 9
/etc/init.d/squid: line 74:  4399 Abortado$DAEMON -z
FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please set 
'visible_hostname'


Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE5): Terminated abnormally.
CPU Usage: 0.044 seconds = 0.020 user + 0.024 sys
Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB
Page faults with physical i/o: 0
/etc/init.d/squid: line 74:  4401 Abortado
start-stop-daemon --quiet --start --pidfile $PIDFILE --chuid $CHUID 
--exec $DAEMON -- $SQUID_ARGS /dev/null

 failed!


eu andei recompilando o kernel pra instalar o layer7, pode ser ai o 
problema??


Não posso dizer que o seu kernel foi configurado corretamente. Mas não é 
disso que o squid está reclamando conforme o que você colocou acima.


(...)


Atenciosamente.

Edmundo Valle Neto


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Como se usa um pen-drive???

2007-07-28 Thread Sávio Ramos
Olá,

Tenho um pen-drive de 2GB e como só uso para máquinas com Debian
formatei-o com XFS. Acredito que o problema seja este, o XFS. Quando
levo o bichinho para outra máquina o Gnome o abre normalmente mas não
consegue permissão para gravar, só ler.

Como vários usuários podem gravar em um pen-drive com XFS? Se fosse
aquela coisa FAT32 não aconteceria. Mas, não quero este sistema de
arquivos.

Para que outro usuário grave alguma coisa tenho que usar o root. E,
após gravar alguma coisa como root o Gnome não desmonta mais o
dispositivo.

Vejam o erro:

Erro org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy.

Detalhes:
hal-storage-can-unmount-volumes-mounted-by-others refused uid 1001


Alguma luz?

Grato.
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Re: Como descobrir o q tá sendo DROPADO n o iptables???

2007-07-28 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

Marcelo Castilho Manzano escreveu:

Gente, minha política é DROP para tudo.
Libero algumas exceções.


Então você já sabe o que está sendo dropado.

Gostaria de descobrir qual o arquivo que guarda os logs de todas as 
requisições que foram feitas e DROPADAS.


Por default o iptables não guarda um log do que está acontecendo, mas 
você vai precisar escrver regras com o target LOG. Observe que somente 
será logado os pacotes que baterem com alguma regra que tenha LOG.


Ex: Acabo de testar o RemoteDesktop Client do debian 4 pois usava ele 
pra me conectar na minha estação windows XP antes de adotar a política 
DROP, porém agora a polítca está DROPANDO tudo e eu não sei ver qual 
porta ele requisita pra sair, qual protocolo ele utiliza etc...
Gostaria de aprender a descobrir essas informações e não que alguem 
simplesmente me informasse por qual porta ele sai, pois sei que vão 
acontecer outras situações e quero me virar sozinho.


tks, abraço!

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Recomendo que procure pela internet informações sobre os 
protrocoles/portas usados pelas aplicações/serviços que você quer 
investigar. O tcpdump e o iptraf vão te ajudar muito nessa tarefa.


Boa sorte e até mais.

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Re: Como fazer p/ o iptables não jogar log no bash

2007-07-28 Thread Gunther Furtado

hamacker escreveu:

rapido no google :
http://www.sounerd.com.br/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=24Itemid=43


Para mim, não funcionou:

~$ dmesg | tail
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=75.9.33.224 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=239 
ID=9219 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1814 DPT=6346 SEQ=1090771725 ACK=1000136658 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=84.153.70.151 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=109 
ID=63248 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=16462 DPT=6346 SEQ=3228135934 ACK=1225491762 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=75.9.33.224 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=239 
ID=9220 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1896 DPT=6346 SEQ=1284783804 ACK=1032352907 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=75.9.33.224 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=239 
ID=9221 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1915 DPT=6346 SEQ=3342334428 ACK=1030418543 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=208.106.33.199 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=119 
ID=31548 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=31061 DPT=5048 SEQ=1006301889 ACK=726103319 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=209.62.176.152 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=238 
ID=16627 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=1503 SEQ=3643311717 ACK=1107441983 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=75.9.33.224 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=239 
ID=33025 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=2594 DPT=6346 SEQ=1367316044 ACK=1373741058 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=189.148.70.208 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=245 
ID=16385 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4146 DPT=6346 SEQ=715772820 ACK=1511027191 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=62.31.75.214 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=42 
ID=22578 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4138 DPT=6346 SEQ=4104528971 ACK=1364154353 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=70.18.5.153 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=109 
ID=36632 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=50485 DPT=6346 SEQ=2858024549 ACK=1156488689 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0

~$

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Re: Como fazer p/ o iptables não jogar log no bash

2007-07-28 Thread Edmundo Valle Neto

Gunther Furtado escreveu:

hamacker escreveu:

rapido no google :
http://www.sounerd.com.br/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=24Itemid=43 




Para mim, não funcionou:

~$ dmesg | tail
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=75.9.33.224 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=239 
ID=9219 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1814 DPT=6346 SEQ=1090771725 ACK=1000136658 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=84.153.70.151 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=109 
ID=63248 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=16462 DPT=6346 SEQ=3228135934 ACK=1225491762 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=75.9.33.224 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=239 
ID=9220 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1896 DPT=6346 SEQ=1284783804 ACK=1032352907 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=75.9.33.224 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=239 
ID=9221 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1915 DPT=6346 SEQ=3342334428 ACK=1030418543 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=208.106.33.199 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=119 
ID=31548 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=31061 DPT=5048 SEQ=1006301889 ACK=726103319 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=209.62.176.152 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=238 
ID=16627 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=1503 SEQ=3643311717 ACK=1107441983 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=75.9.33.224 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=239 
ID=33025 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=2594 DPT=6346 SEQ=1367316044 ACK=1373741058 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=189.148.70.208 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=245 
ID=16385 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4146 DPT=6346 SEQ=715772820 ACK=1511027191 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=62.31.75.214 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=42 
ID=22578 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4138 DPT=6346 SEQ=4104528971 ACK=1364154353 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
ABORTED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:2a:d2:e0:78:00:04:16:02:e3:f9:08:00 
SRC=70.18.5.153 DST=192.168.1.34 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=109 
ID=36632 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=50485 DPT=6346 SEQ=2858024549 ACK=1156488689 
WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0

~$



O arquivo /etc/sysctl.conf no Etch já vem com uma linha comentada para 
que mensagens de log de baixo nível não sejam mandadas para a console. É 
só descomentar.


# Uncomment the following to stop low-level messages on console
#kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7

Isso tem o mesmo efeito do parametro -c 4 utilizado com o klogd no 
sarge descrito na primeira mensagem desta thread.



Atenciosamente.

Edmundo Valle Neto


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Re: como traduzo o gnome e sistema do ingles para portugues?

2007-07-28 Thread Joao Emanuel
Desculpe intrometer, mas que tal usar algum outro ambiente gráfico?
Como Fluxbox, Blackbox ou Windowmaker, seria melhor para sua máquina e
a memória RAM ficaria mais livre para executar outros programas.

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 Sávio Ramos escreveu:
  Em Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:55:43 -0300
  _Anubis_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
 
  simples, quando instalei o debain e entrou automaticamente no modo de
  pouca RAM,
 
 
  Curiosidade... Quanto de RAM possui a máquina?
 
 
 tem 64mb de RAM, e está rodando o Debian Lenny


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Nomes das portas Ethernet

2007-07-28 Thread Davi Vercillo Carneiro Garcia
Caros amigos,

Tenho um computador com somente 1 placa Ethernet. Infelizmente a mesma
queimou e tive que trocar. O problema, se é que é um problema, é que o
Debian esta chamando-a de eth1 ao invés de eth0. Isso deve ocorrer pela
diferença de mac e ele deve guardar alguma identificação. Gostaria de
saber se é realmente isso que acontece e como faço para resetar essa
configuração e a minha nova NIC seja chamada de eth0.

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Re: CUPS: unable to configure printer

2007-07-28 Thread Ken Irving
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:18:26PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 * Thomas Beresford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070727 22:49]:
 Hello,
  
 I tried to setup my HP PSC 1315 printer today on my Debian Etch running
 CUPS 1.2.12. So I used hp-setup to configure my printer and it was all
 right, but when I tried to configure its parameters at the CUPS admin
 page, it asked for a user/password, and I used my root username/password
 but it didn't work for my surprise. 
 
 ...my my root username/password... ???  The username of root is root.
 
 On my system, this works:
 
 username:  root
 password:  the_password_of_root
 
I'm unable to find where this is documented, but add your user to the
'lpadmin' group, and you can use your regular user password for the cups
admin web pages.

Ken

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Re: CUPS: unable to configure printer

2007-07-28 Thread Ken Irving
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 10:16:28PM -0800, Ken Irving wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:18:26PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
  * Thomas Beresford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070727 22:49]:
  Hello,
   
  I tried to setup my HP PSC 1315 printer today on my Debian Etch running
  CUPS 1.2.12. So I used hp-setup to configure my printer and it was all
  right, but when I tried to configure its parameters at the CUPS admin
  page, it asked for a user/password, and I used my root 
   username/password
  but it didn't work for my surprise. 
  
  ...my my root username/password... ???  The username of root is root.
  
  On my system, this works:
  
  username:  root
  password:  the_password_of_root
  
 I'm unable to find where this is documented, but add your user to the
 'lpadmin' group, and you can use your regular user password for the cups
 admin web pages.

Still looking...

  $ zless cupsys-common/changelog.Debian.gz
...
CUPS SystemGroup is 'lpadmin'. You need to add users who are allowed
to add/modify/remove printers/jobs/classes.


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Re: bindgraph

2007-07-28 Thread koffiejunkie

Gilles Mocellin wrote:

Strange !
I just installed it today, and I found what is the problem.
It is not compatible with rrdtool 1.2.
I found it trying to display directly the image (look in the HTMl source).
RRD says it doesn't understand the data format...

I backported the testing/unstable version 0.2a.
I saw this bug in BTS which was corrected.


Hi Gilles,

Thanks for this.  I looked at the code for a long time, but it's greek 
to me - my perl is limited to hello world...


I'm just on the way out for the weekend, will look into this again 
tomorrow night.  As far as I remember I don't even get the images 
generated (that is triggered by the .cgi, isn't it?).


# ./bindgraph.cgi
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at 
/usr/share/perl/5.8/File/Basename.pm line 338.

fileparse(): need a valid pathname at ./bindgraph.cgi line 181

When I strace it, I get this snipped some of the file not found lines:

stat64(/usr/lib/perl/5.8/re.pm, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1340, 
...}) = 0

open(/usr/lib/perl/5.8/re.pm, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 5
ioctl(5, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xbfffec48) = -1 ENOTTY 
(Inappropriate ioctl for device)

_llseek(5, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR)= 0
read(5, package re;\n\nour $VERSION = 0.05..., 4096) = 1340
read(5, , 4096)   = 0
close(5)= 0
read(4, [:\\]])?(.*)/s);\n$dirpath ||..., 4096) = 4096
brk(0x8235000)  = 0x8235000
read(4, .\'.  fileparse() would return \'f..., 4096) = 3069
read(4, , 4096)   = 0
close(4)= 0
read(3, t_date {\n\tmy ($when) = @_;\n\n\tmy ..., 4096) = 2195
read(3, , 4096)   = 0
close(3)= 0
uname({sys=Linux, node=rimwards, ...}) = 0
write(2, Use of uninitialized value in su..., 100Use of uninitialized 
value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl/5.8/File/Basename.pm 
line 338.

) = 100
[snip]
stat64(/usr/share/perl/5.8/Carp/Heavy.pm, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, 
st_size=5747, ...}) = 0

open(/usr/share/perl/5.8/Carp/Heavy.pm, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
ioctl(3, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xb598) = -1 ENOTTY 
(Inappropriate ioctl for device)

_llseek(3, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR)= 0
read(3, # Carp::Heavy uses some variable..., 4096) = 4096
brk(0x8256000)  = 0x8256000
read(3, s($called, $caller, $cache);\n   ..., 4096) = 1651
read(3, , 4096)   = 0
close(3)= 0
write(2, fileparse(): need a valid pathna..., 63fileparse(): need a 
valid pathname at ./bindgraph.cgi line 181

) = 63
exit_group(255) = ?
Process 28639 detached


Is this what you got too?


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Re: Sarge: Lost # of failed logins

2007-07-28 Thread Mumia W..

On 07/27/2007 05:55 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 02:53:54PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:

[...]
The faillog command doesn't give any output to me, and /var/log/faillog 
is still zero bytes.


so, what mechanism writes the faillog. Maybe it panics on bad perms?
mine are 0644 root:root

A


Same here.



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Re: etch setup and some questions

2007-07-28 Thread tejas

lostson wrote:
 Hello 
 I have recently converted my machines over to Debian and am very happy.

A few things I would like to know though

 #1 I currently have gnome installed can I install KDE and remove gnome
and if so how ?

 #2 I like gnome but am a little disappointed in the fact that debian is
only at version 2.14.3 is this how it will stay ? 
There is a 2.16 backport at 
http://people.debian.org/~nobse/etch/gnome2.16/. You can use it. And if 
you try it, you may tell us the results, eg. did it broke anything, is 
it stable enough etc.




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Re: libcbtsysinfo in /home/user

2007-07-28 Thread Magnus Pedersen

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
I don't think I've been rooted, but there is definitely something fishy 
going on with my useraccount. But you are of course right, everything could 
have been patched if I have been rooted...


if you really need to get a handle on these things, without taking
your box down, you could (using a known clean box) build statically
linked copies of the appropriate utilities and then run them from some
r-o media (cd or something). That would at least eliminate those
utilities from suspicion.

A


Good idea, I will try that.

/Magnus


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Re: etch setup and some questions

2007-07-28 Thread lostson
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 12:00 +0300, tejas wrote:
 lostson wrote:
   Hello 
   I have recently converted my machines over to Debian and am very happy.
  A few things I would like to know though
  
   #1 I currently have gnome installed can I install KDE and remove gnome
  and if so how ?
  
   #2 I like gnome but am a little disappointed in the fact that debian is
  only at version 2.14.3 is this how it will stay ? 
 There is a 2.16 backport at 
 http://people.debian.org/~nobse/etch/gnome2.16/. You can use it. And if 
 you try it, you may tell us the results, eg. did it broke anything, is 
 it stable enough etc.

 Will have to look into this, this weekend. backports is great I have
gotten gajim upadted thanks to backports. Thanks for the info!
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where is linux-2.6_2.6.22-2.diff.gz?

2007-07-28 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi Team,

For quite a few days now the pages that display packages for 
linux-headers-2.6.22 (UNSTABLE) show

http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.22-2.diff.gz
as the patch file, but it does not exist, while 
linux-2.6_2.6.22-1.diff.gz does.


Anybody notice that?

Hugo


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Re: Sarge: Lost # of failed logins

2007-07-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 20:14:02 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
 On 07/27/2007 05:55 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 02:53:54PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
 [...]
 The faillog command doesn't give any output to me, and /var/log/faillog 
 is still zero bytes.
 so, what mechanism writes the faillog. Maybe it panics on bad perms?
 mine are 0644 root:root
 A

 Same here.

I can remove /var/log/faillog on my system (Sid-amd64) and create a new
one with touch (empty file, permissions like yours). After the first
failed login the file is 32KB long (the same length as it had before)
and both the login failure messages and the faillog command work
normally again.

I would of course be very worried if the faillog file disappeared on its
own all of a sudden. (Now that I have become aware of its existence in
the course of this thread.) Likewise, it would be suspicious if the
empty seed file remained unchanged after subsequent login failures.

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problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM

2007-07-28 Thread michael
Folks, I've a new machine with a writemaster CDROM drive. When trying
to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
solution.

Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.

Thanks, Michael


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Re: problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM

2007-07-28 Thread Wackojacko

michael wrote:
Folks, I've a new machine 


Its likely that the machine has more bearing on this problem than the 
CDROM itself.  We need more information regarding the Motherboard and in 
particular the IDE or SATA chip the drive is connected to.



with a writemaster CDROM drive. When trying
to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
solution.

Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.


Have you tried to boot a live CD like Knoppix or Ubuntu?  If this boots 
OK the output of


lspci -vv
lsmod

would help identify the correct modules to load.


Thanks, Michael



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Re: CUPS: unable to configure printer

2007-07-28 Thread Thomas Beresford
On 7/28/07, Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 10:16:28PM -0800, Ken Irving wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:18:26PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
   * Thomas Beresford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070727 22:49]:
   Hello,
   
   I tried to setup my HP PSC 1315 printer today on my Debian Etch
 running
   CUPS 1.2.12. So I used hp-setup to configure my printer and it
 was all
   right, but when I tried to configure its parameters at the CUPS
 admin
   page, it asked for a user/password, and I used my root
 username/password
   but it didn't work for my surprise.
  
   ...my my root username/password... ???  The username of root is
 root.
  
   On my system, this works:
  
   username:  root
   password:  the_password_of_root
 
  I'm unable to find where this is documented, but add your user to the
  'lpadmin' group, and you can use your regular user password for the cups
  admin web pages.

 Still looking...

   $ zless cupsys-common/changelog.Debian.gz
 ...
 CUPS SystemGroup is 'lpadmin'. You need to add users who are allowed
 to add/modify/remove printers/jobs/classes.


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I can't believe this but I finally found what was the problem. The problem
was the root password (and my regular user password too), because they had
special characters that for some reason didn't work inside firefox, although
these characters can be typed correctly (probably it's a encoding problem).
I changed the root password for another one that doesn't use special
characters and bingo, it worked.

Anyway, I wish I could add a different user and password since I don't want
to change my current passwords, but lppasswd still doesn't work because of
the permission denied problem that I mentioned before. Do I really have to
use the same user/password of my linux system into CUPS?


Re: problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM

2007-07-28 Thread michael
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 14:47 +0100, Wackojacko wrote:
 michael wrote:
  Folks, I've a new machine 
 
 Its likely that the machine has more bearing on this problem than the 
 CDROM itself.  We need more information regarding the Motherboard and in 
 particular the IDE or SATA chip the drive is connected to.

Okay, there's more info below


  with a writemaster CDROM drive. When trying
  to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
  recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
  where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
  installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
  avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
  solution.
  
  Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
  or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
  combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.
 
 Have you tried to boot a live CD like Knoppix or Ubuntu?  If this boots 
 OK the output of
 
 lspci -vv
 lsmod
 
 would help identify the correct modules to load.
  


I've not had the opportunity to boot from a live CD but it came with
Fedora installed so here's output of those commands plus stuff about
CDROM from the fedora boot/dmesg:

Script started on Sat 28 Jul 2007 04:20:34 PM BST
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su
Password: 
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/[EMAIL PROTECTED] chris]# ls pci
00-vv
bash: lspci: command not found
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/[EMAIL PROTECTED] chris]# /sbubin/lspci
-ccvv
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Memory Controller Hub
(rev 02)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 4f43
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort-
MAbort+ SERR- PERR-
Latency: 0
Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 4f43
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort-
MAbort- SERR- PERR-
Latency: 0
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
Region 0: Memory at e020 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
Region 2: Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Region 4: I/O ports at 2140 [size=8]
Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0
Enable-
Address:   Data: 
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 HECI
Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 4f43
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort-
MAbort- SERR- PERR-
Latency: 0
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: Memory at e0325900 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot
+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Capabilities: [8c] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0
Enable-
Address:   Data: 

00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM Gigabit Network
Connection (rev 02)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 0001
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort-
MAbort- SERR- PERR-
Latency: 0
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 2298
Region 0: Memory at e030 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
Region 1: Memory at e0324000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Region 2: I/O ports at 20c0 [size=32]
Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot
+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=1 PME-
Capabilities: [d0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0
Enable+
Address: fee0200c  Data: 41b9

00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Contoller #4 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 4f43
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- 

Re: Several GTK-apps not working anymore after update

2007-07-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 22:43:29 +0200, danteonline AT gmail DOT com wrote:

[...]

 Problem: I updated my debian lenny/sid system today (at about 14:00 CET, 
 26.07.07). 
 After that update, I noticed that i couldn't launch iceweasel anymore, it 
 gave 
 me the error:
 
 error
 
 Pango-ERROR **: file pangofc-fontmap.c: line 438 (pango_fc_font_map_add): 
 assertion failed: (fcfont-fontmap == NULL)
 aborting...
 
 /error

What happens if you try to run

iceweasel --safe-mode

or

MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 iceweasel --safe-mode

or

LANG=C iceweasel --safe-mode

?

 The big problem is, that message also appears in applications like zenity. 
 Other apps, like gimp, pidgin and quodlibet fail to launch after the update 
 too, but they don't seem to give me any distinct error output 
 but segmentation fault.
 
 I assumed the bug was in either libpango1.0-0 or libpango1.0-common, due to 
 the fact that I only have those packages installed that contain pango in the 
 name.

/usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin links against pango libraries which are
part of libpango1.0-0. If you decide to file a bug then it probably
should be filed against that package.
 
 Reinstalling libpango1.0-common gives me the following warning:
 
 error
 
 Cleaning up font configuration of pango...
 Updating font configuration of pango...
 Cleaning up category xfont..
 Updating category xfont..
 *** You don't have any defomized font packages.
 *** So we are trying to force to generate pangox.aliases...
 
 /error
 
 Note: I do have defoma installed, I even reinstalled.

What output do you get if you run (as root)

/usr/bin/defoma-app -v update pango
 
 Any suggestions?

Try to downgrade libpango1.0-0 and libpango1.0-common.

 How can I test if the packages I installed are the official 
 ones and not some 3rd party ones? I chose mirror.switch.ch for the packages.

If you did not deliberately override apt's package verification
mechanism then you should be safe.

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Re: CUPS: unable to configure printer

2007-07-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:16:29AM -0300, Thomas Beresford wrote:
 
 I can't believe this but I finally found what was the problem. The problem
 was the root password (and my regular user password too), because they had
 special characters that for some reason didn't work inside firefox, although
 these characters can be typed correctly (probably it's a encoding problem).
 I changed the root password for another one that doesn't use special
 characters and bingo, it worked.
 
 Anyway, I wish I could add a different user and password since I don't want
 to change my current passwords, but lppasswd still doesn't work because of
 the permission denied problem that I mentioned before. Do I really have to
 use the same user/password of my linux system into CUPS?

Since using special characters is an important security feature
especially for root, I would keep the characters and use a different
method to configure printing.  Try foomatic-GUI if you want to stick
with cups, or ditch cups and go with lprng and either foomatic
printfilters (with possibly foomatic-GUI) or apsfilter.

Doug.


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Re: laptop sid upgrade. network works till startx then get agpgart kernel error and no network connectivity

2007-07-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 12:30:28 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote:
 Hi,
 I enjoy playing with sid :)

Don't we all? Unfortunately Sid sometimes enjoys playing with us as
well...
 
 I just updated to the latest sid on my Averatec Laptop 3250 running
 amd processor
 
 which worked fine before. Now when I boot all is fine, i can surf
 web using lynx if i stay in console mode. Then when i startx (i have
 tried it with kde, gnome,  xfce4-session session managers) and
 immediately I get kernel errors and then i no longer can use the
 network. I am connected by ethernet cable to my local network via eth0
 
 
 
 Here are two examples of the the tail of dmesg for two different
 kernels:
 
 (only stuff that happens after the startx
 is invoked) :
 
 
 here is dmesg using kernel 2.6.17-2-k7
 
 dmesg|tail

[...]

 [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 9
 PCI: setting IRQ 9 as level-triggered
 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:00.0[A] - Link [LNKB] - GSI 9 (level,
 low) - IRQ 9
 [drm] Initialized via 2.11.1 20070202 on minor 0
 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.5 compliant device at :00:00.0.
 agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up
 support for x2  x1
 agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x
 agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode
 agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode
 irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the irqpoll option)
 [c014da62] __report_bad_irq+0x36/0x75
 [c014dc5a] note_interrupt+0x1b9/0x1f7
 [c014d1a3] handle_IRQ_event+0x23/0x51
 [c014e57f] handle_level_irq+0x94/0xc5
 [c010639e] do_IRQ+0x57/0x71
 [c010476b] common_interrupt+0x23/0x28
 [c01274dd] __do_softirq+0x56/0xd3
 [c012759f] do_softirq+0x45/0x53
 [c0127803] irq_exit+0x38/0x6b
 [c01063a3] do_IRQ+0x5c/0x71
 [c010476b] common_interrupt+0x23/0x28
  handlers:
 [de87795d] (rhine_interrupt+0x0/0x654 [via_rhine])
 Disabling IRQ #11
 NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
 eth0: Transmit timed out, status 0003, PHY status 786d, resetting...
 eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
 NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
 eth0: Transmit timed out, status 0003, PHY status 786d, resetting...

[...]

 I have tried booting with irqpoll option, no good, i have tried
 noapic, no good.

Other options to try are pci=routeirq, acpi=off and nolapic (plus
combinations of all of the above).

[...]

 I have tried to disable agp with agp=off in /boot/grub/menu.lst but
 this did not help..
 
 any ideas what i can do?

Since this seems to be an interrupt problem it might help to see the
output of

cat /proc/interrupts

before and after the network card fails.

We also need to know what cards we are talking about exactly and which
modules are loaded:

lspci | egrep -i 'net|ether|vga|display|video'

lsmod | egrep 'drm|agp|rhine'

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Re: searching for graphical torrent client

2007-07-28 Thread Michael M.
On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 10:39 -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 08:25:16AM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
  On Fri July 27 2007 03:07, Giorgos D. Pallas wrote:
   I tried google but can't seem to find something that both looks decent
   *and* is available for debian (testing) as a binary. For example I tried
   qtorrent, but it is so minimal that I don't like it... 
  
  When I need a torrent app I have always used the good old bittorrent on the 
  terminal. I guess it's not pretty (it's not bad though), but it works 
  wonderfully.
 
 rtorrent works well, with a ncurses interface and session management.
 
 It's faster than all the rest in my experience.


Seconded.  What kept me from using rtorrent (and kept me stuck on
azureus) for a while was the lack of documentation accessible to
non-geeks, which is so often a problem with Linux apps in general.  But
after it had been around awhile and started catching on, mercifully
various and sundry bloggers and the like posted more accessible how-to's
that explained various features in plain English.  I've been using it
exclusively for about 3 months and have found it fast, stable, and
minimal in terms of the resources it uses but not in terms of the
features it offers.

Between aptitude, mc, rtorrent, cplay, and one or two others, I'm
developing a real fondness for ncurses apps.  In general, I find it
easier to use them for managing the tasks at hand than the bare command
line, and nearly as capable as both CL and GUI alternatives with far
less bloat than the latter.  But that's only when developers or helpers
take the time to explain their usage, with examples, in jargon-free
language intended for ordinary users.


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No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions
of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to
dream. --S. Jackson


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Re: problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM

2007-07-28 Thread michael
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 15:55 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
 michael wrote:
  Folks, I've a new machine with a writemaster CDROM drive. When trying
  to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
  recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
  where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
  installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
  avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
  solution.
  
  Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
  or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
  combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.
 
 It may not be relevant, but I've had installation problems in the past with 
 Etch, where the CD-ROM I booted from was not the first in the system. It 
 booted 
 fine, but then the installer later went looking for its disk in the first 
 drive. 
 If you now have 2 CD drives???

Peter, thanks for the thought but only 1 CD drive...


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Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org)

2007-07-28 Thread Tim Hull


 Sooo... download a vanilla .22 kernel and build it yourself.

 You've just got to do a little more yourself.  It's the price of
 freedom.  And not that difficult.


I know perfectly well how to build a kernel.  What I'm asking for here is a
way to do this the Debian way - i.e., through APT using the sid kernel
source (effectively making my own backports).  Also, there is more than just
the kernel I need to build from lenny/sid - such as some gstreamer plugins
and the newest acpi-support.  I'd MUCH prefer to do this through APT than
the ugly old fashioned way.  If I did that for every little piece of
software I wanted to upgrade, I'd end up with a nightmare on my hands when
upgrading to lenny...

Regarding the unstable kernel being built with glibc 2.6, I'll admit - I was
wrong on that.  Ubuntu was the distribution that did that, not Debian.
 However, I still have seen in many places that you should NEVER, NEVER
install sid packages on stable.


 If you want effortless, go back to OSX.

 No, really.  Very few people here will be upset that you want others
 to do the grubby integration work.  My wife certainly doesn't.  And
 that's *OK*.



One argument that bothers me a bit is stating that all deficiencies are the
price you pay for freedom and recommending one go back to their former OS
if they can't handle it. This is the reason Linux isn't doing as well on the
desktop as it could. I must emphasize that I have no intention on leeching
off the community - if that was the case, I'd just go back to OS X. My post
was basically asking how to do a proper Debian way backport from sid
source - which seems possible, given that backports.org makes plenty of
them.

While I did point this out as a deficiency in Debian (and Linux in general),
I'm also open to helping fixing this.  I was intending on submitting any
backports I did to backports.org, as well as possibly getting involved in
Debian development in other ways.  I also reported all the bugs I found in
lenny/sid in the Debian BTS, and was planning on keeping a chroot/VM of sid
around to keep testing it.  Now, however, I can't help but wonder if some
other Linux distribution may be more receptive than Debian.  This is a
problem which needs to be fixed - no other OS makes you update the whole
system or go through arcane source compilation to update a single component.


Re: problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM

2007-07-28 Thread michael
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 14:47 +0100, Wackojacko wrote:
 michael wrote:
  Folks, I've a new machine 
 
 Its likely that the machine has more bearing on this problem than the 
 CDROM itself.  We need more information regarding the Motherboard and in 
 particular the IDE or SATA chip the drive is connected to.
 
  with a writemaster CDROM drive. When trying
  to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
  recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
  where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
  installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
  avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
  solution.
  
  Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
  or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
  combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.

here's some more info (snippets from 'dmesg'):
sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
ata_piix :00:1f.5: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.5[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1f.5 to 64
scsi2 : ata_piix
scsi3 : ata_piix
ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00012128 ctl 0x0001214e
bmdma 0x000120f0 irq 19
ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00012120 ctl 0x0001214a
bmdma 0x000120f8 irq 19
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:00.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :02:00.0 to 64
scsi4 : pata_marvell
scsi5 : pata_marvell
ata5: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x00011018 ctl 0x00011026
bmdma 0x00011000 irq 17
ata6: DUMMY
BAR5:00:00 01:7F 02:22 03:CA 04:00 05:00 06:00 07:00 08:00 09:00 0A:00
0B:00 0C:01 0D:00 0E:00 0F:00 
ata5.00: ATAPI: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-S182M, SB03, max UDMA/33
ata5.00: configured for UDMA/33
scsi 4:0:0:0: CD-ROMTSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M SB03 PQ: 0
ANSI: 5
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.11.0-ioctl (2006-10-12) initialised:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.

sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
scsi 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
sr 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
rtc_cmos 00:03: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0
rtc0: alarms up to one month
iTCO_vendor_support: vendor-support=0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :06:03.0[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19
iTCO_wdt: Intel TCO WatchDog Timer Driver v1.01 (21-Jan-2007)
iTCO_wdt: Found a ICH8DO TCO device (Version=2, TCOBASE=0x0460)
iTCO_wdt: initialized. heartbeat=30 sec (nowayout=0)
Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version 7.3.20-k2-NAPI
Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:19.0[A] - GSI 20 (level, low) - IRQ 20
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:19.0 to 64
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
parport_pc 00:09: reported by Plug and Play ACPI
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306

cdrom: sr0: mrw address space DMA selected
ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
SELinux: initialized (dev sr0, type iso9660), uses genfs_contexts



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Re: 'sensible-browser'

2007-07-28 Thread Wayne Topa
Kevin Mark([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:57:45PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
  The browser I have running all the time is seamonkey. How can I get
  programs that want to use a browser open a seamonkey window instead of
  firing up the gnome or kde browser?
 If you examine /usr/bin/sensible-browser, which is not very long, you
 see 2 things that it looks for:
 1) the environment variable called BROWSER
 2) the Debian 'alternative' www-browser and x-www-browser
 It check $BROWSER first and if that does not exist, it checks, if in X,
 x-www-browser. This is set by a few means. One way is to make a manual
 symlink. On my system:
 $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2007-04-09 23:04 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser - 
 /usr/bin/firefox
 So, 'ln -s /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser /usr/bin/seamonkey' might do
 it. I say might because, IIRC, gnome and kde sometimes overide this in
 ways that i have not investiaged.(if someone out in -user land knows the
 rest of the story, do tell).

Or do it the debian way woth update-alternatives.

 u update-alternatives --config x-www-browser

 Wayne

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Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org)

2007-07-28 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Tim Hull wrote:

 However, backports.org doesn't seem to have what I need (it
 only has 2.6.21 kernel, doesn't have the new acpi-support, not to mention
 some extra gstreamer plugins I wanted).

According to http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=contribute
backports are built only for packages that are in testing. kernel 2.6.22 is
not yet in testing. Only 2.6.21 is in testing. That might be the reason why
you cannot find any backports for 2.6.22. Sorry if you are already aware of
this criterion.


hth
raju

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utf8 Problems

2007-07-28 Thread Bernhard Kuemel
Hi debian-user!

I converted to utf8 in the hope that my non ASCII character problems
would disappear. They are now ... different.

I used utf8migrationtool and locale now says:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

I am in Austria, where we speak German, but I chose en because the
German translations are often so ridiculous (in mc's config:
'verbose operation' gets 'redselige Vorgaenge', bash says 'getoetet'
instead of 'killed', when a process get's killed).

I chose US because I tought that was most used and thus most stable.

Now the problems:

I wanted to print a German text containing umlauts from a web page.
I marked it in iceweasel and pasted it into a 'konsole' running bash
running 'cat x'. 'lpr x' printed only a page with the character 'K'.

'hexdump -C x' says:

0010  20 20 20 20 20 20 4b fc  6e 64 69 67 75 6e 67 73  |
K.ndigungs|
0020  62 65 73 63 68 72 e4 6e  6b 75 6e 67 65 6e 0a 0a
|beschr.nkungen..|

so uuml; is 0xfc, auml; is 0xf4, and the characters are printed as
periods '.'.

mc's viewer says:

0010 20 20 20 20  20 20 4B FC  6E 64 69 67  75 6E 67 73
Kündigungs
0020 62 65 73 63  68 72 E4 6E  6B 75 6E 67  65 6E 0A 0A
beschränkungen..

Here uuml; is still only the single byte 0xFC, but it gets printed
as 'A' with a tilde and a '1/4' character. auml is again 0xE4 but
printed as 'A' with a tilde and a circle with 4 short lines
extending from the circle diagonally.

Opening x in openoffice writer shows rhombuses with question marks
for each umlaut.

Opening x.html in openoffice writer I was unable to remove all the
table etc. stuff and so was unable to reformat the text so it would
fit on one page. Hmm, it might work, if I copied the text from there
into a new document. But here I want to solve the locale problems,
or what should I call the problem?

mc (midnight commander, a norton commander clone) of course goes
crazy again, but I was not surprised and accepted that it prints 'a'
with '^' instead of line art, etc. More serious was that when I
'ssh'ed to a different computer (not sure which) it got confused
about which line it was on and I messed up editing /etc/fstab.

man gets quote characters wrong, printing 'a' with '^' instead and
so does gcc.

I also have problems with kvirc. IIRC I can get it to display
iso8859-1 correctly, but not utf8, and the smart utf8/iso8859-1 mode
does not work. I chat with users who use iso8859-1 and utf8.

Is there a package which is responsible for all these problems so I
can file a bug report against it? Or are these bugs in konsole, gcc,
man, bash, mc, iceweasel, openoffice and kvirc? Or ... is the bug
sitting in front of the computer again :)?

I wonder if it's easier to set up debian from scratch.

I'm basically running debian testing (since a long time) but because
I sometimes want packages from stable or unstable I have that in
sources.list, too (well, stable is commented out currently) and so I
don't upgrade to unstable I have this in /etc/apt/preferences:


Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 650

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin Priority: 600


Thanks, Bernhard

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Re: 'sensible-browser'

2007-07-28 Thread Larry Evans

On 07/28/2007 12:50 AM, M-L wrote:

On Saturday 28 July 2007 13:57, Rick Pasotto shared this with us all:

--} The browser I have running all the time is seamonkey. How can I get
--} programs that want to use a browser open a seamonkey window instead of
--} firing up the gnome or kde browser?

[snip]


In KDE go into Control Panel/KDE Components/File Associations/text/html and 
select Seamonkey and place it at the top of your list. Directly beneath it 
your second choice, beneath that your third choice.. etc., etc..



On my desktop, toolbar, there's a Desktop menu which includes:
  Preferences
...
Preferred Applications

From the name of Preferred Applications I assumed that's what
I could use to specify the default web browser.  In 'Preferred 
Applications' there was a 'Internet' tab which had an entry

from 'Web Browser' and 'Mail Reader'. The 'Web Browser'
entry had 'iceweasel'.  However, when, in 'icedove' I clicked
on a url, the epiphany browser was used.  Why wasn't the
'Preferred Applications'.'Web Browser' application used instead?


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Debian4 network install woes [WAS: problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM]

2007-07-28 Thread michael
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 14:47 +0100, Wackojacko wrote:
 michael wrote:
  Folks, I've a new machine 
 
 Its likely that the machine has more bearing on this problem than the 
 CDROM itself.  We need more information regarding the Motherboard and in 
 particular the IDE or SATA chip the drive is connected to.
 
  with a writemaster CDROM drive. When trying
  to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
  recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
  where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
  installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
  avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
  solution.
  
  Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
  or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
  combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.

here's some more info (snippets from 'dmesg'):
sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
ata_piix :00:1f.5: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.5[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1f.5 to 64
scsi2 : ata_piix
scsi3 : ata_piix
ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00012128 ctl 0x0001214e
bmdma 0x000120f0 irq 19
ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00012120 ctl 0x0001214a
bmdma 0x000120f8 irq 19
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:00.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :02:00.0 to 64
scsi4 : pata_marvell
scsi5 : pata_marvell
ata5: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x00011018 ctl 0x00011026
bmdma 0x00011000 irq 17
ata6: DUMMY
BAR5:00:00 01:7F 02:22 03:CA 04:00 05:00 06:00 07:00 08:00 09:00 0A:00
0B:00 0C:01 0D:00 0E:00 0F:00 
ata5.00: ATAPI: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-S182M, SB03, max UDMA/33
ata5.00: configured for UDMA/33
scsi 4:0:0:0: CD-ROMTSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M SB03 PQ: 0
ANSI: 5
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.11.0-ioctl (2006-10-12) initialised:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.

sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
scsi 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
sr 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
rtc_cmos 00:03: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0
rtc0: alarms up to one month
iTCO_vendor_support: vendor-support=0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :06:03.0[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19
iTCO_wdt: Intel TCO WatchDog Timer Driver v1.01 (21-Jan-2007)
iTCO_wdt: Found a ICH8DO TCO device (Version=2, TCOBASE=0x0460)
iTCO_wdt: initialized. heartbeat=30 sec (nowayout=0)
Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version 7.3.20-k2-NAPI
Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:19.0[A] - GSI 20 (level, low) - IRQ 20
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:19.0 to 64
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
parport_pc 00:09: reported by Plug and Play ACPI
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306

cdrom: sr0: mrw address space DMA selected
ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
SELinux: initialized (dev sr0, type iso9660), uses genfs_contexts



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Re: problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM

2007-07-28 Thread Wackojacko

michael wrote:

snip lspci output showing ICH8 controller
iTCO_wdt   20625  0 
iTCO_vendor_support12741  1 iTCO_wdt

snd_page_alloc 19025  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
i2c_core   35777  1 i2c_i801
rtc_cmos   17017  0 
sr_mod 26853  0 
cdrom  44009  1 sr_mod
sg 45673  0 
dm_snapshot25609  0 
dm_zero10817  0 
dm_mirror  30785  0 
dm_mod 68785  9

dm_multipath,dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror
pata_marvell   16449  0 
ata_piix   25413  3 
ata_generic17221  0 
libata137201  3 pata_marvell,ata_piix,ata_generic
sd_mod 37441  5 
scsi_mod  168697  4 sr_mod,sg,libata,sd_mod
ext3  141905  2 
jbd73009  1 ext3

mbcache18249  1 ext3
ehci_hcd   42957  0 
ohci_hcd   30405  0 
uhci_hcd   34401  0 


It would appear from this, and other info in subsequent e-mails, that 
you need to load the 'ata_piix' module.  When the install stalls do 
Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to another terminal and 'modprobe ata_piix'. 
Apologies if you have already tried this.


There is a possibility that the etch kernel is not new enough for this 
MB, what kernel does fedora run on?  If this is the case you may need a 
custom installer, google is your friend here.


HTH


Wackojacko


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Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org)

2007-07-28 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 07/28/07 11:00, Tim Hull wrote:
[snip]
 
 One argument that bothers me a bit is stating that all deficiencies are the
 price you pay for freedom and recommending one go back to their former OS
 if they can't handle it. This is the reason Linux isn't doing as well on the
 desktop as it could. I must emphasize that I have no intention on leeching
 off the community - if that was the case, I'd just go back to OS X. My post
 was basically asking how to do a proper Debian way backport from sid
 source - which seems possible, given that backports.org makes plenty of
 them.
 
 While I did point this out as a deficiency in Debian (and Linux in general),
 I'm also open to helping fixing this.  I was intending on submitting any
 backports I did to backports.org, as well as possibly getting involved in
 Debian development in other ways.  I also reported all the bugs I found in
 lenny/sid in the Debian BTS, and was planning on keeping a chroot/VM of sid
 around to keep testing it.  Now, however, I can't help but wonder if some
 other Linux distribution may be more receptive than Debian.

Ubuntu (and Fedora and possibly SuSE) releases on a 6 month schedule
for that very reason.

 This is a
 problem which needs to be fixed - no other OS makes you update the whole
 system or go through arcane source compilation to update a single component.

Neither do Testing or Sid.

ISTM, though, that you are missing the point of Stable.

http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-getting.en.html#s-updatestable

No new functionality is added to the stable release. Once
a Debian version is released and tagged `stable' it will
only get security updates. That is, only packages for which
a security vulnerability has been found after the release
will be upgraded. All the security updates are served through
security.debian.org.

Security updates serve one purpose: to supply a fix for a
security vulnerability. They are not a method for sneaking
additional changes into the stable release without going through
normal point release procedure. Consequently, fixes for packages
with security issues will not upgrade the software. The Debian
Security Team will backport the necessary fixes to the version
of the software distributed in `stable' instead.

This is how the people who make Debian want it to be.  Ubuntu,
Fedora/RH or SUSE may be better suited to you.

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Re: DHCPD giving IP to wrong machine

2007-07-28 Thread Rob Sims
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 04:18:39PM -0700, Clarence W. Robison wrote:
Content-Description: Mail message body
 On 26 Jul 2007 at 16:05, Clarence W. Robison wrote:
 
  I have an entry in my dhcp3 dhcpd.conf which says that host xyz with
  certain MAC address should receive a fixed ip address. The server does
  not respect that entry and gives the IP address to another host with a
  different MAC address. I don't quite understand why it, dhcpd, should do
  that. Is normal behavior?
  
 
 OPPS, the message left before I could paste snippets of the conf file.
  dhcpd.conf -- # #
 Global Options pid-file-name /var/run/dhcpd.pid; lease-file-name
 /var/lib/dhcp3/dhcpd.leases; log-facility local1; ignore client-updates;
 ddns-update-style none; option domain-name-servers  XXX.XXX.XXX.3,
 XXX.XXX.XXX.223; default-lease-time  3600; max-lease-time 
 14400; authoritative; subnet XXX.XXX.XXX.0 netmask
 255.255.255.192 { # Default Options
   option routersXXX.XXX.XXX.1;
   option subnet-mask255.255.255.192;
   option domain-name.XX.XXX;  
   option time-offset-25200; # Mountain Standard Time
   option ntp-serversXXX.XXX.XXX.3, XXX.XXX.XXX.58;
 
   range dynamic-bootp   XXX.XXX.XXX.22 XXX.XXX.XXX.60;

Here, you tell dhcpd it's OK to hand out 22 - 60 to non-matching hosts,
so it does just that.  Fixed address and range assigned addresses should
not overlap.

   host xxx {  
 hardware ethernet 00:13:20:2d:31:d1;
 fixed-address XXX.XXX.XXX.22;
  }
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Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org)

2007-07-28 Thread Tim Hull


 ISTM, though, that you are missing the point of Stable.

 http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-getting.en.html#s-updatestable

 No new functionality is added to the stable release. Once
 a Debian version is released and tagged `stable' it will
 only get security updates. That is, only packages for which
 a security vulnerability has been found after the release
 will be upgraded. All the security updates are served through
 security.debian.org.

 Security updates serve one purpose: to supply a fix for a
 security vulnerability. They are not a method for sneaking
 additional changes into the stable release without going through
 normal point release procedure. Consequently, fixes for packages
 with security issues will not upgrade the software. The Debian
 Security Team will backport the necessary fixes to the version
 of the software distributed in `stable' instead.

 This is how the people who make Debian want it to be.  Ubuntu,
 Fedora/RH or SUSE may be better suited to you.

 - --
 Ron Johnson, Jr.
 Jefferson LA  USA

 I understand the point of Debian stable - and I understand why most other
distros (beside RHEL and the other enterprise distros) use a 4-6 month
cycle.  However, I don't see why this much be mutually exclusionary with
pulling selected updates down on an as-needed basis.  On Windows and OS X,
one can easily update, say, OpenOffice.org or Firefox without updating the
whole system.
On Linux distributions, however, you either have to wait for the next distro
release (whether that be 4 months or 12 months) or use hackish solutions
only a Gentoo user could love.  Of course, I could just use OS X (or
Windows) but that's not the point - I like the tweakability/freedom of
Linux, but I just want to be able to update, for instance, my kernel or ACPI
packages separate from my glibc and Xorg without leaving the realm of the
package system.
In any case, this is probably best reserved for the -devel list, as it has
gone outside the scope of my main question (how to make backports) and into
the realm of release cycles etc.


dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Fothergill

Dear Debianists,

I tried installing Adobe Acrobat from a tarball and it doesn't seem to work. 
 It was a while ago now so I have forgotten exactly what I did and didn't 
do.


It seems a bit complex because it tries to put it in Iceweasel as plugin or 
something and also as a stand alone program at the same time or 
something...


I don't remember it being as complex as this in the past.

At a very dumb level is there an acrobat deb file somewhere that would be 
easy to install somewhere in the non free repository?


I have never used the non free repository.

How do I tell aptitude etc how to find it?

Then I can get the package from the internet.

Comments appreciated.

Regards

Michael Fothergill

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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Tommi Asiala
Hi Michael,

To us to help you with the installing from tarball we would have to know
what you did. Your vague information on that part doesn't help.

I suggest you should try this new thing called Searching the web. It
can give you nice links to web pages such as:

http://wiki.debian.org/PDFViewers

-Tom


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Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org)

2007-07-28 Thread John Hasler
Tim Hull writes:
 On Linux distributions, however, you either have to wait for the next
 distro release (whether that be 4 months or 12 months) or use hackish
 solutions only a Gentoo user could love.

On Debian you can use backports.org.

 I like the tweakability/freedom of Linux, but I just want to be able to
 update, for instance, my kernel ... separate from my glibc and Xorg
 without leaving the realm of the package system.

You can do that with Microsoft Windows and OSX?

 In any case, this is probably best reserved for the -devel list, as it
 has gone outside the scope of my main question (how to make backports)

apt-get build-dep packagename; apt-get source --build packagename

man apt-get
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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Fothergill





From: Tommi Asiala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Fothergill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:52:50 +0300

Hi Michael,

To us to help you with the installing from tarball we would have to know
what you did. Your vague information on that part doesn't help.


OK.  I infer from this that there is no deb file and so you have to fart 
around with the tarball.




I suggest you should try this new thing called Searching the web. It
can give you nice links to web pages such as:

http://wiki.debian.org/PDFViewers


I suspect the web doesn't say much about it other than Acrobat exists and 
where you download it.  If you go on the Adobe Linux download page it tells 
you something like


1. Download the tarball.


2. type tar -xvf adobe-overcomplexbloatnowbutfineayearago.tar

after unzipping it and follow the prompts and it will put the executable in 
the right bit of the file tree and everything will be OK etc.


It did all this but doesn't work if you run acroread.

It also took me some farting around to figure out which directory it put the 
acroread executable in so I could run it.


What would be useful is if I could do a magical untar command that would 
tidy it all up and remove all the directories and junk it created cleanly 
and then I could start again fresh and see of I could get it to work a 
second time.


Suggestions on good untar command would be useful.


The alternative is doing some kind of recursive rm command in the 
directories to get rid of everything and deleting the executable too and 
starting again.


My fear is I did something that confused it so some kind of permission 
problem or other voodoo meant that it couldn't see all the bits that it 
needs to fire up properly.


Thanks,

Michael Fothergill


















-Tom



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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Michael Fothergill wrote:
I suspect the web doesn't say much about it other than Acrobat exists 
and where you download it.



You might consider reading instead of suspecting -- that's not the case.


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Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org)

2007-07-28 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 07/28/07 12:28, Tim Hull wrote:

 ISTM, though, that you are missing the point of Stable.

 http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-getting.en.html#s-updatestable

 No new functionality is added to the stable release. Once
 a Debian version is released and tagged `stable' it will
 only get security updates. That is, only packages for which
 a security vulnerability has been found after the release
 will be upgraded. All the security updates are served through
 security.debian.org.

 Security updates serve one purpose: to supply a fix for a
 security vulnerability. They are not a method for sneaking
 additional changes into the stable release without going through
 normal point release procedure. Consequently, fixes for packages
 with security issues will not upgrade the software. The Debian
 Security Team will backport the necessary fixes to the version
 of the software distributed in `stable' instead.

 This is how the people who make Debian want it to be.  Ubuntu,
 Fedora/RH or SUSE may be better suited to you.

 - --
 Ron Johnson, Jr.
 Jefferson LA  USA

 I understand the point of Debian stable - and I understand why most other
 distros (beside RHEL and the other enterprise distros) use a 4-6 month
 cycle.  However, I don't see why this much be mutually exclusionary with
 pulling selected updates down on an as-needed basis.  On Windows and OS X,
 one can easily update, say, OpenOffice.org or Firefox without updating the
 whole system.

That's not true.

These links have pre-compiled Linux binaries with suitably old
system software requirements:

  http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
  http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
  http://download.openoffice.org/2.2.1/index.html

Many sites (especially Sourceforge projects) also have pre-compiled
RPM packages, and some have debs.

And then there are these RPM search sites:
  http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/
  http://rpm.pbone.net/

 On Linux distributions, however, you either have to wait for the next distro
 release (whether that be 4 months or 12 months) or use hackish solutions
 only a Gentoo user could love.  Of course, I could just use OS X (or
 Windows) but that's not the point - I like the tweakability/freedom of
 Linux, but I just want to be able to update, for instance, my kernel or ACPI
 packages separate from my glibc and Xorg without leaving the realm of the
 package system.
 In any case, this is probably best reserved for the -devel list, as it has
 gone outside the scope of my main question (how to make backports) and into
 the realm of release cycles etc.

You'll get the same answers as you got from me (in a range of
politenesses).

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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Tommi Asiala
Michael Fothergill wrote:
 I suggest you should try this new thing called Searching the web. It
 can give you nice links to web pages such as:

 http://wiki.debian.org/PDFViewers
 
 I suspect the web doesn't say much about it other than Acrobat exists
 and where you download it.

Don't suspect, read the web page.

-Tom


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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 07/28/07 13:20, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 
 
 
 From: Tommi Asiala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Michael Fothergill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat
 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:52:50 +0300

 Hi Michael,

 To us to help you with the installing from tarball we would have to know
 what you did. Your vague information on that part doesn't help.
 
 OK.  I infer from this that there is no deb file and so you have to fart
 around with the tarball.

On the contrary.  Here's the sources.list entry:
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org $BRANCH main

Then,
# apt-get update
# apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring
# apt-get install acroread

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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Fothergill





From: Tommi Asiala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Fothergill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:30:00 +0300

Michael Fothergill wrote:
 I suggest you should try this new thing called Searching the web. It
 can give you nice links to web pages such as:

 http://wiki.debian.org/PDFViewers

 I suspect the web doesn't say much about it other than Acrobat exists
 and where you download it.

Don't suspect, read the web page.

-Tom


OK, I see there IS a deb file and way to get at it

Sorry about that one.  I am such a fatalist. When I went on the Adobe site 
and saw an rpm download and a tarball I took that too mean that Fedora/Red 
Hat people can do a relatively simple install and everyone else uses the 
tarball.


I was wrong.  As Jesus said in the Bible O, ye of little faith.  I need to 
have more faith first and then search the web.


Thanks.

Michael




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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 07/28/07 13:46, Michael Fothergill wrote:
[snip]
 
 I was wrong.  As Jesus said in the Bible O, ye of little faith.  I

Yeshua didn't speak English.  But that's a way different topic.

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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread John Hasler
I assume that what you really want is Adobe Acrobat Reader (acroread).  The
Web page you were given, http://wiki.debian.org/PDFViewers, tells you
where to get it via the Debian package-management system.  It also tells
you about several Free alternatives that are in Debian.
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A question of fonts

2007-07-28 Thread andy

Dear all

Can I have a few recommendations please for the best fonts package to 
use for a desktop machine. The font package I have right now seems to 
really screw with the legibility of Xmms and even Iceweasel. I'd like to 
make use of fonts that are available in MS Office (for inter-operability 
with MS docs I have to process). If it makes any diffs, I typically run 
either Gnome or Xfce4, on a testing (Lenny) machine.


Thanks for any leads.

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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Fothergill





From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:37:23 -0500

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On 07/28/07 13:20, Michael Fothergill wrote:



 From: Tommi Asiala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Michael Fothergill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat
 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:52:50 +0300

 Hi Michael,

 To us to help you with the installing from tarball we would have to 
know

 what you did. Your vague information on that part doesn't help.

 OK.  I infer from this that there is no deb file and so you have to fart
 around with the tarball.

On the contrary.  Here's the sources.list entry:
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org $BRANCH main

Then,
# apt-get update
# apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring
# apt-get install acroread


OK, I did all this.  It worked OK but it didn't install acroread  So 
then I seached the web and it seemed to say that maybe there isn't a version 
of acroread for and AMD64 box (which I am using).


There is some chroot trick that can get the i386 deb file to work.

Perhaps the tarball had no chance after all.

But maybe I still have to little faith and I have been reading old web pages 
and there IS an amd64 acroread deb file after all



Comments appreciated.

Michael






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/bin/login listening?

2007-07-28 Thread Tyler Smith
Hi,

rkhunter has turned up a new warning for me:

 Found warnings:
 [16:37:42] Checking for packet capturing applications... Warning
 [16:37:43] Warning! Process /bin/login (3888) listening
 [16:37:43] Warning! Process /bin/login (3888) listening
 [16:37:43] Warning! Process /bin/login (3888) listening
 [16:37:43] Warning! Process /bin/login (3888) listening
 [16:37:43] Warning! Process /sbin/dhclient (4197) listening
 [16:37:43] WARNING, found:  /etc/.java (directory)  /dev/.static (directory)  
 /dev/.udev (directory)  /dev/.initramfs (directory) 

The /bin/login hasn't shown up before. Is this something I need to
worry about?

Thanks,

Tyler


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Re: A question of fonts

2007-07-28 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sat July 28 2007 12:15, andy wrote:
 Dear all

 Can I have a few recommendations please for the best fonts package to
 use for a desktop machine. The font package I have right now seems to
 really screw with the legibility of Xmms and even Iceweasel. I'd like to
 make use of fonts that are available in MS Office (for inter-operability
 with MS docs I have to process). If it makes any diffs, I typically run
 either Gnome or Xfce4, on a testing (Lenny) machine.

 Thanks for any leads.

Install msttcorefonts. That will install a bunch of fonts from ms from the 
web.

There are also a couple xfree86-nonfree* packages that may help.


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Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org)

2007-07-28 Thread Joe

Tim Hull wrote:

I understand the point of Debian stable - and I understand why most other

distros (beside RHEL and the other enterprise distros) use a 4-6 month
cycle.  However, I don't see why this much be mutually exclusionary with
pulling selected updates down on an as-needed basis.  On Windows and OS X,
one can easily update, say, OpenOffice.org or Firefox without updating the
whole system.


Which, of course, are applications, and not part of the operating
system. There's no real problem in compiling a different Firefox or
OOo than a version of Debian currently contains. And the only reason
you need to compile at all, rather than use a precompiled binary, is
that Windows is one particular proprietary product, and GNU-Linux
isn't. The different Debian distributions are no more alike than Vista
and XP, and there's no reason why system components from one should
'just work' in the other. Would you expect to drop the Vista scheduler
into the XP kernel and have it work? Would you expect Microsoft to
produce a specifically compiled version of the Vista scheduler which
*would* work in XP?


On Linux distributions, however, you either have to wait for the next distro
release (whether that be 4 months or 12 months) or use hackish solutions
only a Gentoo user could love.  Of course, I could just use OS X (or
Windows) but that's not the point - I like the tweakability/freedom of
Linux, but I just want to be able to update, for instance, my kernel or ACPI
packages separate from my glibc and Xorg without leaving the realm of the
package system.


So just how many packages would that be, to accommodate every possible
combination of compilers, libraries and operating system components?
Just to save you the inconvenience of the odd compilation if you want
something that doesn't currently exist as a package?


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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Tommi Asiala
Michael Fothergill wrote:
 But maybe I still have to little faith and I have been reading old web
 pages and there IS an amd64 acroread deb file after all
 

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq

Instead of gaining faith, try to focus on the issue and read.


-Tom


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