date:20110402


Hi,

I'm running Debian Squeeze amd64.
I'm trying to go back to using nv after trying to get nouveau working 
and failed.


I purged the two packages I had to install to attempt nouveau:
- xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
- libdrm-nouveau1
and restored /etc/X11/xorg.conf to the one I was using with nv.

(Special note: xorg.conf is needed on my PC because the driver cannot 
obtain the correct info to auto configure.)


I rebooted, but X won't work.
Near the end of Xorg.0.log has the following message:

(EE) NV: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load

Indeed, nouveau.ko and its dependent drivers (eg., drm_kms_heler.ko) are 
still getting loaded.


What do I need to do to go back to using nv?

Thanks,
Fumi Okushi



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Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

On Saturday 02 April 2011 00:00:53 Liam O'Toole wrote:
 On 2011-04-01, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Friday 01 April 2011 23:23:33 Liam O'Toole wrote:
  In the case of OOo, install the myspell-en-gb package. (It goes by
  country code, not region). I don't know what spell checker kmail uses.
 
  Thanks, Liam.  I have tried frequently over the past few years and never
  succeeded in getting en-gb.  So I was trying to follow Camaleón's advice
  to use extensions.  That list was the list of extensions.
 
  Now that I have the myspell-en-gb package, how do I persuade OOo to use
  it?

 Go to Tools - Options, expand the Language Settings node and click on
 Languages. There you can set the default language for documents. A tick
 mark next to the language name indicates that a spell checker is
 available for that language. You can also set the language on the fly
 while writing a document. In that case go to Tools - Language and
 choose the appropriate sub-menu.

Thanks, Liam!!  I changed everything from (default) English UK to English 
UK and it now works. :-/

Lisi



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Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

On Saturday 02 April 2011 02:39:03 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 02/04/11 09:00, Lisi wrote:
  On Friday 01 April 2011 16:02:53 Camaleón wrote:
  On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:48:25 +0200, Klistvud wrote:
  Dne, 01. 04. 2011 16:40:37 je Camaleón napisal(a):
  Check your thesaurus packages (dpkg -l | grep -i thesaurus) and look
  for the OOo's italian one (-i10n packages are mostly for the UI -
  localization-).
 
  ii  libmythes-1.2-0
  2:1.2.1-1 simple thesaurus library ii
  openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us
  1:3.2.1-2 English Thesaurus for OpenOffice.org
  ii  openoffice.org-thesaurus-it
  2.0.7.gh.deb1-1.1 Italian Thesaurus for OpenOffice.org
  2
 
  It's installed, apparenly...
 
  How weird :-?
 
  Well, if we attend to this notice:
 
  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries
 
  (...) IMPORTANT NOTE: From OpenOffice.org 3.0 on the dictionary wizard
  is no longer available -- All new dictionaries are now available via the
  Extensions Repository.
 
  You may try the extension (as suggested) and check if that works:
 
  http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Dict_it_IT
 
  Greetings,
 
  --
  Camaleón
 
  And what about English English??  Surely a reasonable concept, but:
 
  Dutch   Nederlands  Dutch spelling and hyphenation Dictionary
  Engligh English Chemistry Dictionary
  English English dictionaries with fixed dash handling and new 
  ligature
  and phonetic suggestion support
  English (Australian)English (Australian)English Australian 
  Dictionary
  English (Canadian)  English (Canadian)  Canadian English Spell Checking,
  Hyphenation and Thesaurus
  English (New Zealand)   English (New Zealand)   English New Zealand
  Dictionary English (South African)  English (South African) South African
  English spell checking dictionary
  English (US)English (US)US English Spell Checking Dictionary
  Esperanto   Esperanto   Esperantilo - spell check, grammar checker and
  thesaurus for Esperanto language
 
  (Lines before and after shown to illustrate that I have not simply
  omitted it. It actually belongs between Canada and New Zealand.)
 
  When is English English going to get a look in??  I work in OOo without a
  spell checker because I am so fed up with being told that honor is right
  and honour is wrong, fantasize is right and fantasise is wrong.  Etc. 
  And I like to use a spell checker because I am a lousy typist and an even
  worse proof-reader.
 
  My lovely Kmail spell checker just tried to correct honor and fantasize!!
 
  US, OK.  I don't like it, but they are numerous.  But Australian,
  Canadian, New Zealand and South Africa get a mention and we don't.  It is
  called English. Surely the English English should get a look in??
 
  Lisi

 openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb

Thanks for the help, but that is already installed.  I installed it when I 
installed OOo.

Lisi


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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv

2011-04-02 Thread Kent West

On 4/2/11 1:49 AM, Fumiaki Okushi wrote:
 I rebooted, but X won't work.
 Near the end of Xorg.0.log has the following message:

 (EE) NV: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load

 Indeed, nouveau.ko and its dependent drivers (eg., drm_kms_heler.ko)
 are still getting loaded.

 What do I need to do to go back to using nv?


I'm not sure, but I think you'll need to blacklist the nouveau kernel
module (as opposed to the nouveau X driver). Add a line to the end of
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist:

blacklist nouveau

and reboot. See if that works for you.

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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv

2011-04-02 Thread Erwan David

On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:34:10AM CEST, Kent West we...@acu.edu said:
 On 4/2/11 1:49 AM, Fumiaki Okushi wrote:
  I rebooted, but X won't work.
  Near the end of Xorg.0.log has the following message:
 
  (EE) NV: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load
 
  Indeed, nouveau.ko and its dependent drivers (eg., drm_kms_heler.ko)
  are still getting loaded.
 
  What do I need to do to go back to using nv?
 
 
 I'm not sure, but I think you'll need to blacklist the nouveau kernel
 module (as opposed to the nouveau X driver). Add a line to the end of
 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist:
 
 blacklist nouveau
 
 and reboot. See if that works for you.

Better also check wether nouveau did blacklist the nv kernel module...


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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv

On 2011-04-02 08:49 +0200, Fumiaki Okushi wrote:

 I'm running Debian Squeeze amd64.
 I'm trying to go back to using nv after trying to get nouveau working
 and failed.

I'm sorry that nouveau did not work for you.  Could you please elaborate
what the problem was?

 I purged the two packages I had to install to attempt nouveau:
 - xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
 - libdrm-nouveau1

Removing these packages is neither necessary nor helpful.

 I rebooted, but X won't work.
 Near the end of Xorg.0.log has the following message:

 (EE) NV: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load

 Indeed, nouveau.ko and its dependent drivers (eg., drm_kms_heler.ko)
 are still getting loaded.

 What do I need to do to go back to using nv?

Blacklist the nouveau module or boot with nouveau.modeset=0.  See
http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting.

Sven


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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv

On 2011-04-02 09:43 +0200, Erwan David wrote:

 Better also check wether nouveau did blacklist the nv kernel module...

There is no nv kernel module, and nouveau does not blacklist anything.

Sven


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Android / Rythymbox

2011-04-02 Thread Michael Thompson

I hope someone here can help; I cant see my Android handset in any
media player, so cant sync to it.

It is visible as a mounted drive in gnome, and I can access it without
issue. However Rythmbox, banshee et all will not show it. And I dont
have a clue where to start to see why. Anyone come across this before?

I'm running Debian stable.


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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv

2011-04-02 Thread Brian

On Sat 02 Apr 2011 at 09:43:55 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:

 Blacklist the nouveau module or boot with nouveau.modeset=0.  See
 http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting.

Having

   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=nouveau.modeset=0

in /etc/default/grub saves some typing at every boot.


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Re: which ISO image shall I use?/ Qué imagen ISO debo usar?

2011-04-02 Thread Alberto Luaces

Gustavo Marcano writes:

 greetings, just want to make sure which ISO image should I use to
 install Debian squeeze on my laptop (compaq presario CQ-50) which use
 an AMD Semprom (tm) SI-40 2 Ghz processor?

 I ask this because I tried to do it with x-86 architecture, but it
 kept presenting some issues.

i386 ISOs are fine for your processor, because it's a 32 bit one. Use
the latest stable version of the ISO and come back here if you have
problems.

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Re: which ISO image shall I use?/ Qué imagen ISO debo usar?

2011-04-02 Thread Alberto Luaces

Alberto Luaces writes:

 Gustavo Marcano writes:

 greetings, just want to make sure which ISO image should I use to
 install Debian squeeze on my laptop (compaq presario CQ-50) which use
 an AMD Semprom (tm) SI-40 2 Ghz processor?

 I ask this because I tried to do it with x-86 architecture, but it
 kept presenting some issues.

 i386 ISOs are fine for your processor, because it's a 32 bit one. Use
 the latest stable version of the ISO and come back here if you have
 problems.

Sorry, I was mistaken. It's a 64 bit processor, so you can use either
i386 or amd64 versions.

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Using tar and gpg from Konqueror

2011-04-02 Thread Ken Heard

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While experimenting with tar and gpg files I discovered that right
clicking on a file or directory name in Konqueror with gnugp installed
behaves differently depending on its location.  If the file or directory
is located on an ext3 or xfs  hard drive, the right click allows the
options of compressing the file and encrypting it.  If however it is
located on a cf or sd card, the right click offers the compressing
option; but it does not work.  No encryption option is offered.

Could this difference be attributable to the file system used, the hard
drive using ext3or xfs, the cf and sd cards using vfat?  Would either or
both of these options options be available if the file system on those
cards were also ext3?

Regards, Ken Heard
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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv




On 04/02/2011 12:34 AM, Kent West wrote:

On 4/2/11 1:49 AM, Fumiaki Okushi wrote:

I rebooted, but X won't work.
Near the end of Xorg.0.log has the following message:

(EE) NV: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load

Indeed, nouveau.ko and its dependent drivers (eg., drm_kms_heler.ko)
are still getting loaded.

What do I need to do to go back to using nv?



I'm not sure, but I think you'll need to blacklist the nouveau kernel
module (as opposed to the nouveau X driver). Add a line to the end of
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist:

blacklist nouveau

and reboot. See if that works for you.


Thanks for your response.
Yes, that works and I have that change made.
However, shouldn't that not be required?
I mean, if I install a package, didn't like it, and decide to purge it,
shouldn't things go back to normal?
It seems to me that my trying to get nouveau working caused some
unknown changes to the system and purging the package didn't undo that change.

Thanks,
Fumi Okushi


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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv




On 04/02/2011 12:43 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-04-02 08:49 +0200, Fumiaki Okushi wrote:


I'm running Debian Squeeze amd64.
I'm trying to go back to using nv after trying to get nouveau working
and failed.


I'm sorry that nouveau did not work for you.  Could you please elaborate
what the problem was?


Thank you for your response.

To be honest with you, I don't know what the problem was.
First, my monitor refused saying that it's out of range.
The dmesg showed that it inferred the screen size to be 1024x768,
so I booted with video=1920x1080 (native monitor size).
The dmesg output reflected the change but the monitor continued to say out of 
range.
For xorg.conf, I added a modeline generated using cvt for 1920x1080.
(BTW, the same modeline will work with nv.)
Xorg.0.log seems to suggest that X accepted the modeline params as valid,
but didn't seem to use it.
What I see if the monitor complaining out of rane.

Fumi Okushi


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Re: Composite video from a Compaq Armada e500 to a Panasonic flat TV.

2011-04-02 Thread Andrei Popescu

On Jo, 31 mar 11, 10:34:33, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Any ideas on finding a resolution and refresh rate in X that will 
 give the TV an acceptable signal?   Another setting in X?  Is a sync 
 adjustment in the menu of the Panasonic likely to solve it?  Is a 
 trim pot. in the Panasonic likely to need adjusting?

You should know the drill: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf at a 
minimum ;)

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Package ms-windows promoted from non-free to main!

On Saturday 02 April 2011 07:03:20 Ken Heard wrote:
 Equo ne credite Teucri.
 Quidquid id est, timeo Danaos, et dona ferentes.

 Do not trust the horse, Trojans.
 Whatever it is, I fear the Greeks bearing gifts.

I fear the Greeks _even_ when they bear gifts.  That et is important!

Lisi


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Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

On 2011-04-02, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 02/04/11 09:00, Lisi wrote:
--- SNIP --- 
 When is English English going to get a look in??  I work in OOo without a 
 spell checker because I am so fed up with being told that honor is right and 
 honour is wrong, fantasize is right and fantasise is wrong.  Etc.  And I 
 like 
 to use a spell checker because I am a lousy typist and an even worse 
 proof-reader.
 
 My lovely Kmail spell checker just tried to correct honor and fantasize!!
 
 US, OK.  I don't like it, but they are numerous.  But Australian, Canadian, 
 New Zealand and South Africa get a mention and we don't.  It is called 
 English. Surely the English English should get a look in??
 
 Lisi
 
 


 openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb

That package is for localisation of the user interface. From the package
description:

Spelling dictionaries, hyphenation patterns, thesauri and help are not
included in this package. There are some available in separate packages
(myspell-*, openoffice.org-hyphenation-*, openoffice.org-thesaurus-*,
openoffice.org-help-*)

(Hmmm ... thesauri? Must spell check that ... )

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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution

On 2011-04-02, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
 On 04/01/2011 07:20 AM, Camaleón wrote:
--- SNIP ---
 Here in Spain we celebrate it on December 28th instead.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day#Other_prank_days_in_the_world


 What part of Cultural Imperialism don't you understand???

:)


A Spaniard would be vaguely familiar with the concept ;-)

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Re: WLAN stick

2011-04-02 Thread Jude DaShiell

It's a good idea to run update-usb-ids regularly since that script goes 
out to a central web site and updates available devices support.

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Klistvud wrote:

 Dne, 01. 04. 2011 12:47:30 je Klistvud napisal(a):
 Dne, 01. 04. 2011 12:26:56 je Paul van der Vlis napisal(a):
 
  Not sure what an HCL is. I think you mean a website with information.
 
 Yes. It's an acronym of (Linux) Hardware Compatibility List. Ubuntu now has
 one, and the BackTrack compatibility list at their website is excellent.
 Here's Debian's: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USBDevices
 
  I found here something: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/USB
  It can tell after some searching if a device is supported.
  But it's a difficult thing to find which is the best to buy.
  
  Is here somebody who can tell which driver/chipset or vendor is good?
 
 Vendors can't be relied to keep the same chipset (and the same revision) on
 the same model. They reserve, as you may well know, the right to change that
 without prior notice.
 So, nobody can tell you in advance whether a certain model will work in Linux
 -- unless they've personally tested it.
 
  
Oh, yes -- I personally strongly advise against buying a Belkin. They
seem to ignore the existence of Linux and generally suck at support.
  
  OK, thanks for the information!
 
 Glad to help.
 
 
 Oh, and don't even consider devices that require ndiswrapper - that's not an
 actual driver at all. Look preferably for devices that have in-kernel drivers
 (these are developed by the Linux folks and are sure to work). Proprietary
 kernel modules, such as the Broadcom STA (wl.ko), can be a pain.
 Unfortunately, the *most recent*, brand new models are rarely supported by the
 kernel -- let alone by the oldish Squeeze kernel ...
 
 



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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv

On 2011-04-02 10:24 +0200, Fumiaki Okushi wrote:

 On 04/02/2011 12:43 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2011-04-02 08:49 +0200, Fumiaki Okushi wrote:

 I'm running Debian Squeeze amd64.
 I'm trying to go back to using nv after trying to get nouveau working
 and failed.

 I'm sorry that nouveau did not work for you.  Could you please elaborate
 what the problem was?

 Thank you for your response.

 To be honest with you, I don't know what the problem was.
 First, my monitor refused saying that it's out of range.
 The dmesg showed that it inferred the screen size to be 1024x768,
 so I booted with video=1920x1080 (native monitor size).

I would suspect that the monitor is broken and provides no or invalid
EDID.  The kernel then uses 1024x768 as fallback, since this resolution
is usually safe.

 The dmesg output reflected the change but the monitor continued to say out of 
 range.

It might help to specify the refresh rate as well.  See
http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting for all the
arguments that you can supply with the video=… parameter.

Sven


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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution

2011-04-02 Thread Simon Hollenbach

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
toli...@debian.org wrote:

 It's neither a hack nor a joke.  See our announcement at
 http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110401

In my eyes that's the only thing you cant do on 1st April, state that
your prank aint one. Followed up by a Head of Executive Worldwide or
something.. Or did you really believe it was valid? Which still
wouldn't excuse you acting like you knew.

JMTC
Regards
Simon


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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)


On 04/02/2011 12:18 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 02/04/11 15:40, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/01/2011 11:17 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 02/04/11 14:57, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 20:23, Scott Ferguson

[snip]


Why not use the Debian standard??
day-of-week, dd month  hh:mm:ss +


Too verbose, not sortable

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers





So...
the RFC standards for internet communication is not good enough?
or the Debian Policy standard
or the standard of *this* mailing list:-
(eg. as used in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg00141.html)

And *you* can't sort the in-place standards?

Let me guess - do you also use the imperial measurement system?
Did someone mention Cultural Imperialism earlier?
;-p


I've always thought that Unix Time is *incredibly stupid* (who the heck
says Fri Apr  1 23:27:41 CDT 2011?) and *monumentally shortsighted*
(did nothing happen before 01-Jan-1970?).



Um, apropos of what (Unix time)??



I don't understand your question.



OpenVMS does it one of the two Right Ways


There's two right ways?? :-)



I know you're trying to be funny, but sure: there's usually more than 
one way to skin a cat.  In this case, the other Right Way (or should I 
say Ways) are ISO 8601.



of displaying time
(01-Apr-2011 23:27:41)


Which *is* RFC 2822


and has an epoch date of 17-NOV-1858 00:00:00.00
(modified Julian date adopted by the Smithsonian Astrophysical
Observatory for satellite tracking) and keeps time in a signed 64 bit
integer using 100ns resolution).



Interesting...

Cheers





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Issues with scponlyc on amd64 squeeze final release. [solved with patch]

2011-04-02 Thread Andrew McGlashan


Hi Thomas,

[maintainer Thomas Wana]

Squeeze package:
   #  dpkg-query -l|grep scponly
   ii  scponly 4.8-4.1


I sent you an email about issues I was having with scponly package, but 
you never replied :(


However, I've now solved the problem and am providing a patch for 
setup_chroot.sh -- please fix the package with the patch.



Essentially, there was an issue with missing libnss library files; you 
need to include both lib and lib64 files and not just the compat ones.


The patch addresses these bugs:
#122715
#620019
#668366 [listed under scponly-full -- same issue fixed]


#  cat setup_chroot.sh.patch
--- setup_chroot.sh 2010-02-18 19:36:53.0 -1000
+++ my_setup_chroot.sh  2011-04-02 00:49:06.0 -1000
@@ -90,9 +90,9 @@
 #
 #  TODO - i've since forgotten which OS this is for, it should be 
relocated to a presetup script

 #
-/bin/ls /lib/libnss_compat*  /dev/null 21
+/bin/ls /lib/libnss_* /lib64/libnss_*  /dev/null 21
 if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
-   LIB_LIST=$LIB_LIST /lib/libnss_compat*
+   LIB_LIST=$LIB_LIST /lib/libnss_* /lib64/libnss_*
 fi

 # check that the configure options are correct for chrooted operation:



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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)


On 04/02/2011 12:45 AM, Doug wrote:

On 04/02/2011 12:40 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:


I've always thought that Unix Time is *incredibly stupid* (who the
heck says Fri Apr 1 23:27:41 CDT 2011?) and *monumentally
shortsighted* (did nothing happen before 01-Jan-1970?).

OpenVMS does it one of the two Right Ways of displaying time
(01-Apr-2011 23:27:41) and has an epoch date of 17-NOV-1858
00:00:00.00 (modified Julian date adopted by the Smithsonian
Astrophysical Observatory for satellite tracking) and keeps time in a
signed 64 bit integer using 100ns resolution).


When, of course, the Smithsonian launched their first satellite! (Jules
Verne was a consultant.)

and I thought the silly season was yesterday--doug



Sigh.  The things that we stick up in orbit using rockets are *man-made* 
satellites.


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Gnucash

2011-04-02 Thread lee mary

Dear Sir/Madam

I am using the Gnucash now. In the account registry, I need to use the TAB
key to move
forward which is not so convenient for me. I wonder whether there are any
software I can
use to control the function key on the keyboard to replace the TAB key.

Regards,
Mary Lee

Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution

On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:18:03 Simon Hollenbach wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl

 toli...@debian.org wrote:
  It's neither a hack nor a joke.  See our announcement at
  http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110401

 In my eyes that's the only thing you cant do on 1st April, state that
 your prank aint one. 

+1

Lisi


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Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups

2011-04-02 Thread C. Hurschler

On Saturday 02 April 2011, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 04/01/2011 09:57 AM, C. Hurschler wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'm looking for an inexpensive alternative, does anyone have any
  experience with the GeForce 8400GS?
 
 I put a fanless 8400GS in my wife/kids' PC.  It's cheap, handles compiz
 just fine and playing videos with mplayer consumes an unmeasurable
 amount of CPU when playing videos when hooked into the vdpau libraries.
 
 (I just got the GeForce 210 and notice that it's about 40% faster than
 the 8400GS while running about 5C cooler.)

Thanks for the feedback, this is the kind of thing one never finds on the 
compatibility lists.  I myself am looking for a passively cooled card that can 
do compositing and 3D for purposes of googl-earth (no gaming), and last but 
not least be able to play DVDs without hanging.

C


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Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups

2011-04-02 Thread C. Hurschler

On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote:
 On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:30:28 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote:
  On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote:
  
  BTW the card seems to be a Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450]
  
  Have you tried another driver (for example, radeon or an updated
  version of Catalyst -now is 11.3-)?
  
  I've tried radeon, but strangely I can't ctrl-alt-F1 to console with
  it
 
 What happens when you press that combo? Nothing, black/blank screen? Can
 you jump to another tty (2,3,4,5...)?
 
  I don't think compositing worked either, but I can't remember
  for sure.
 
 It should work, radeon is one of the most advanced open drivers for
 this task (3D accleration/openGL) :-)

it doesn't.  I'll post the log files and a better description as soon as I have 
the time.

 
 If you want to give a second chance to radeon driver (I'd do), just
 upload your full /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to www.pastebin.com so
 people here can review it.
 
  fglrx-driver is at 1:10-9-3 in Squeeze, 11.3 does not seem to be in
  squeeze- backports.
 
 (...)
 
 You can always get the updated closed source driver directly from AMD
 site. You will have to recompile by yourself if the kernel gets updated,
 though.

I use Debian Stable because I don't want to waste my time compiling stuff.  
That worked well in Lenny with debian-multimedia and lenny-backports.  Squeeze 
is IMHO nowhere near as close to being a production desktop system as Lenny 
was, but my impression might be biased by the problems I am having with my 
Radeon card...

 
 Greetings,


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Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

2011-04-02 Thread Aaron Toponce

On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 02:23:31PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 Why not use the Debian standard??
 Reasoning - it's already been extensively debated *and* voted on, it's a
 system already in place, it's the Debian way.

 (Is there more than one (Debian standard)?)

 From :-
 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-dpkgchangelog

 The date has the following format[17] (compatible and with the same
 semantics of RFC 2822 and RFC 5322):

  day-of-week, dd month  hh:mm:ss +

I'm not the one who typed the initial date of 04/01/11. Had the Debian
standard of Fri, 01 Apr 2011 00:00:00 -0700 been used, there would have
been no ambiguity, now would there?

Further, why do all that typing on a mailing list thread, when 2011-04-01
is, oh I don't know, _one_ _third_ the length, and still retains
unambiguity?

Heh. You can do things the short way or the long way. I'll take the short
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Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups


On 04/02/2011 07:25 AM, C. Hurschler wrote:

On Saturday 02 April 2011, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/01/2011 09:57 AM, C. Hurschler wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for an inexpensive alternative, does anyone have any
experience with the GeForce 8400GS?


I put a fanless 8400GS in my wife/kids' PC.  It's cheap, handles compiz
just fine and playing videos with mplayer consumes an unmeasurable
amount of CPU when playing videos when hooked into the vdpau libraries.

(I just got the GeForce 210 and notice that it's about 40% faster than
the 8400GS while running about 5C cooler.)


Thanks for the feedback, this is the kind of thing one never finds on the
compatibility lists.  I myself am looking for a passively cooled card that can
do compositing and 3D for purposes of googl-earth (no gaming), and last but
not least be able to play DVDs without hanging.



I added this to the bottom of the /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf :
include = /etc/mplayer/site.specific

In that file are the two lines:
vo=vdpau,xv,
vc=ffmpeg12vdpau,ffwmv3vdpau,ffvc1vdpau,ffh264vdpau,ffodivxvdpau,

Note the trailing commas.  They make mplayer fallback to built-in code 
if those libraries aren't installed.


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iceweasel 4 process not closing on exit

2011-04-02 Thread L V Gandhi

When ever I close iceweasel 4 in squeeze, process is not closing.
Hence if I restart iceweasel, it says process is running, first close
running process.
I saw from ps -ax as follows
2111 ?Rl 1:41 /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin --sm-config-prefix
/firefox-bin-c5rQTp/ --sm-client-id 10cddfd6
How to solve it ie to get the process closed when program is exited from its
file menu or window is closed?
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Re: iceweasel 4 process not closing on exit


On 04/02/2011 08:44 AM, L V Gandhi wrote:

When ever I close iceweasel 4 in squeeze, process is not closing.
Hence if I restart iceweasel, it says process is running, first close
running process.
I saw from ps -ax as follows
2111 ?Rl 1:41 /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin
--sm-config-prefix /firefox-bin-c5rQTp/ --sm-client-id 10cddfd6
How to solve it ie to get the process closed when program is exited from
its file menu or window is closed?


Maybe you're leaving open a minimized window (or maybe there's an open 
window on another workspace?


So, the question is: what technique do you use to close IW?

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Re: iceweasel 4 process not closing on exit

2011-04-02 Thread Simon Hollenbach

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 3:44 PM, L V Gandhi lvgl...@gmail.com wrote:
 When ever I close iceweasel 4 in squeeze, process is not closing.
 Hence if I restart iceweasel, it says process is running, first close
 running process.
 I saw from ps -ax as follows
 2111 ?    Rl 1:41 /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin --sm-config-prefix
 /firefox-bin-c5rQTp/ --sm-client-id 10cddfd6
 How to solve it ie to get the process closed when program is exited from its
 file menu or window is closed?
 --
 L V Gandhi

Hi Gandhi,
how long do you wait before you try to restart iceweasel? I know that
behaviour when just exiting for some reason and promptly wanting to
launch the application again. Happens with iceweasel and firefox, on
various linux distros as well as ms-software.

Regards
Simon


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Re: Cannot update wheezy

2011-04-02 Thread Mark Fletcher

Stephen Powell zlinuxman at wowway.com writes:

 
 I had the same problem about a week ago.  The solution is to do
 a full-upgrade instead of a safe-upgrade.  The problem is caused by
 libre-office packages taking the place of open-office packages.
 full-upgrade allows packages to be deleted, safe-upgrade does not.
 With full-upgrade the dependencies can be resolved by giving permission
 to delete a couple of open office packages that are functionally
 replaced by a couple of libre office packages, IIRC.
 

Nice one, thanks! That has fixed it.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Mark





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[SOLVED] Serial Connection

2011-04-02 Thread Stephen Powell

On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 06:02:38 -0400 (EDT), MAROUNI Abbass wrote:
 
 Sorry forgot to mention that we are in Paris and the datacenter is in 
 Amsterdam. So no physical access to the servers.

For your production environment, perhaps.  But you led us to believe
that you had two local servers side-by-side for testing purposes
that were cabled together by means of a cross-over serial cable or a
standard serial cable in conjunction with a null modem.  Obviously
you don't have a serial cable running all the way from Paris to
Amsterdam.  You're using modems and phone lines, or
ethernet to serial converters, or something similar.
Your comments about the cable were misleading.  It seems that you
either won't supply pertinent information or you supply misleading
information.
 
 But good news : I finally made it.

I'm glad you got it working.
 
 Apparently ttyS0 and ttyS1 are different. I had to use baudrate of 
 115200 with vt102 on ttyS0 and a bauderate of 9600 with vt100 on ttyS1.
 is that a software or a hardware issue? I always thought that ttyS0 and 
 ttyS1 are the same.

It doesn't matter which serial port is called /dev/ttyS0 and which
serial port is called /dev/ttyS1.  What matters is the hardware.
Years ago, I had an old 486 machine with a 16-bit ISA bus.  Installed
in one of these bus slots was an 8-bit multi-io card which provided
two serial ports, a parallel port, and a joystick port.  This card
was originally designed for PC and PC/XT clones.  It used
National Semiconductor (NS) 8250 Universal Asynchronous
Receiver/Transmitter (UART) chips, or their hardware clones.
According to the manufacturer's specifications, the 8250 UART can
operate at speeds up to 56 kilobits per second (kbps).  But in actual
practice, I found that 9,600 bps was as fast as it could go.  Something
about the design of the support circuitry limited its speed to 9,600 bps.
I don't know what.  But if I tried to push it any faster I either got
garbage or dropped characters.

I also used to have an IBM PS/2 Model 70.  The UART on its motherboard
is a 16550A.  According to the manufacturer's specifications, the
16550A is capable of operating at speeds of up to 256 kbps.  Due to the
hardware design of the PC et al, 115 kbps is the maximum bit rate that
can be programmed by software.  But by trial and error experimentation,
I found that this UART could be driven at a maximum rate of 38,400 bps.
If I tried to go any faster, I would get garbage or dropped characters.
In this same machine was an expansion board (32-bit microchannel bus)
which contained an extra serial port.  It also has a 16550A UART.  But I
had no problems driving it at 57,600 bps.  Perhaps it would have been
capable of higher speeds than that, but I didn't have a fast enough
device to test it with at the time.

The point is that all serial ports are not created equal.  The most
common PC serial ports use 16550A UARTs, but older and slower UARTs
are used in some older boards.  Even if the UARTs are the same,
the actual maximum bit rate can be lower than the manufacturer's
specs, depending on what limitations are imposed by the supporting
circuitry.

As to a VT100 emulation vs. a VT102 emulation, that is a software
issue.  The serial port doesn't know or care what kind of terminal
you have.  Apparently your two servers are not identical, as you
led us to believe.

As to what my next suggestion was going to be, I had some questions about
the procedure you used to comment out the entry in /etc/inittab and
kill getty.  You didn't provide much information about it.  (Perhaps
you're noticing a theme here.)  Normally, init only reads /etc/inittab
during startup.  Thus, commenting out the entry for getty in /etc/inittab
will not prevent the process from being re-spawned.  However, init will
re-read /etc/inittab if you tell it to by means of the telinit q
command.  The proper procedure would be

(1) Comment out the entry in /etc/inittab
(2) Issue telinit q
(3) Wait a reasonable length of time for init to react
(4) Kill getty, if it is still running
(5) Wait for getty to die
(6) Launch minicom

The reverse procedure would be

(1) Exit minicom
(2) Uncomment the entry in /etc/inittab
(3) Issue telinit q

init should then re-spawn a getty process.  Keep in mind that telinit and
kill are asynchronous commands.  They send a signal to another process,
but they do not wait for the requested action to be performed.  You must
introduce some wait time in your script to give the other process enough
time to perform the requested action before going on.
 
 Thanks for you all. Much appreciated.

You're welcome.  But next time, please give us the information we ask
for and be willing to try the things we suggest, even if you don't think
that it will do any good.  It motivates us to keep helping you.

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Certification for Debian

2011-04-02 Thread Kaushal Shriyan

Hi,

Are there certification courses available for debian ?

Please guide.

Thanks

Kaushal

Re: Certification for Debian

2011-04-02 Thread Sven Hoexter

On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:37:13PM +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Are there certification courses available for debian ?

As far as I know LPI[0] is the closest you can get.

Sven

[0] http://www.lpi.org/
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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv

2011-04-02 Thread Stephen Powell

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 02:49:39 -0400 (EDT), Fumiaki Okushi wrote:

I'm running Debian Squeeze amd64.
I'm trying to go back to using nv after trying to get nouveau working
and failed.
...

I see you already found a solution from other posters. But be glad that
you had an nv driver to go back to. The nv driver has already been
deleted from sid (except for the avr32 and m68k unofficial ports).
I too had to go back to nv. My monitor requires an interlaced video
mode, and the last time I checked, the nouveau driver simply wouldn't
work with interlaced modes. It gives no error messages, but the screen
goes totally black.

If they had demoted the driver from main to non-free, (due to DFSG
violations -- code obfuscation), I could have accepted that. But with
this monitor, I don't think any other driver will work at 1024x768
resolution. (The monitor does have a non-interlaced mode for
1024x768 resolution at 60 Hz vertical refresh, but that produces
unacceptable flicker which gives me horrible headaches after
several hours of use. Non-interlaced modes for this resolution at
higher vertical refresh rates are not possible due to the monitor's
low video bandwidth. It's an IBM G51 monitor, and it has a 70 MHz maximum
pixel clock rate.)

My video card has a RIVA TNT2 chipset, which is no longer supported by
the proprietary nvidia driver. (The legacy 71xx driver supports it,
but this driver doesn't work with the release of the X server used by
Squeeze and later releases.) Without the nv driver, I would have
to drop back to 800x600 resolution to save my eyes. Plus I would
lose my true hardware-mode text consoles and be stuck with framebuffer
stuff. With the nv driver, not only can I use the VESA standard
87 Hz vertical refresh interlaced mode (half frame rate), but I designed
my own video mode that runs it at 100 Hz vertical refresh interlaced
(half frame rate), which is the maximum vertical refresh rate supported
by the monitor. This is even easier on my eyes than 87 Hz interlaced.

I really wish they would bring back the nv driver as non-free. It has
a niche market that cannot be filled by any other driver, as in my
example. If nouveau is not going to support interlaced modes, then
people who use monitors that require interlaced modes and video chipsets
that support interlaced modes but are not supported by the nvidia
proprietary driver really don't have any good alternative except nv.

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How come dist-upgrade needed in lenny?

2011-04-02 Thread Tapio Lehtonen

Lenny can not install bind9 update in the usual upgrade way, because 
this upgrade needs two package removals and two new packages to be 
installed. I think this should be mentioned in the security note of this 
bind9 upgrade or otherwise inform users so they do not waste time 
figuring out what is happening and how to get the upgrade installed.


toppari:/usr/share/doc/approx# LANG=C date
Sat Apr  2 20:18:45 EEST 2011

toppari:/usr/share/doc/approx# LANG=C apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information... Done

The following packages have been kept back:
 bind9 bind9-host bind9utils dnsutils libbind9-50 libisccc50 libisccfg50
 liblwres50 lwresd
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.

toppari:/usr/share/doc/approx# LANG=C apt-get dist-upgrade --simulate
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information... Done

Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 libdns55 libisc52
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 libdns58 libisc50
The following packages will be upgraded:
 bind9 bind9-host bind9utils dnsutils libbind9-50 libisccc50 libisccfg50
 liblwres50 lwresd
9 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Inst lwresd [1:9.6.ESV.R1+dfsg-0+lenny2] (1:9.6.ESV.R3+dfsg-0+lenny1 
Debian:5.0.8/oldstable, Debian-Security:5.0/stable) []

. rest cut away

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Kmail and Scribus 1.5.0 on Debian Testing.

2011-04-02 Thread John Culleton

I have been a Slackware guy for more than a decade, but recently I 
have encountered an intractable problem.  I really need two programs 
for my daily work. Slack 13.0 will handle Kmail like a champ but 
because of elderly version of Qt4 won't compile the developmental 
package  Scribus 1.5.0.  Slack 13.1 will compie Scribus 1.5.0 ( I do 
this overnight) but Kmail is thoroughly messed up. 

So I tuned to Debian Testing. I used apt-get to add the compiler stuff, 
KDE for Kmail, svn, cmake and so on. But something, almost certainly 
KDE, has screwed up  parts of Qt4. When I attempt to compile Scribus 
1.5.0 I get these error messages:
--
Warning: QT_QMAKE_EXECUTABLE reported QT_INSTALL_LIBS as /usr/lib
Warning: But QtCore couldn't be found.  Qt must NOT be installed 
correctly, or it wasn't found for cross compiling.
CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindQt4.cmake:642 
(MESSAGE):
  Could NOT find QtCore.  Check 
/usr/local/src/s150/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log
  for more details.
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  CMakeLists.txt:465 (FIND_PACKAGE)
etc.

Here is my script for compiling and installing Scribus 1.5.0:
-
cd /usr/local/src/
svn co svn://scribus.net/trunk/Scribus s150
cd s150
cmake . -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=/usr/local/scribus_svn -
DWANT_SCRIPTER2=1 
make
make install
cd scribus
rm /usr/local/bin/scrib5
ln scribus /usr/local/bin/scrib5
--
The above script works regularly. on slack 13.1 but not unfortunately 
on my copy of Debian Testing.  I'll try copying the copy of QtCore.so 
found in the Python directories to /usr/lib but I am not sanguine 
about the results. 

My base question: assuming that important parts of Qt4 have been 
overwritten by KDE4 how do I get beck to the original testing 
versions?

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dpkg bug regarding dependencies?

2011-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Karall

Hello,

when trying to work around
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620088 I downgraded
nfs-common to the version in testing, which actually worked, even though
nfs-kernel-server has a versioned dependency on nfs-common (see below), 
is this a bug in dpkg or did I miss something regarding the versioned
dependency handling?

I actually only noticed since aptitude forbid-version did bail out
telling me that there is a dependency problem.

Cheers
Wolfgang

PS: the shell output:

x61s:~# apt-cache policy nfs-common nfs-kernel-server 
nfs-common:
  Installed: 1:1.2.3-1
  Candidate: 1:1.2.3-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.2.3-1 0
500 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
nfs-kernel-server:
  Installed: 1:1.2.3-1
  Candidate: 1:1.2.3-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.2.3-1 0
500 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
x61s:~# apt-cache show nfs-kernel-server | grep ^Depends
Depends: libblkid1 (= 2.16), libc6 (= 2.3), libcomerr2 (= 1.01),
libgssapi-krb5-2 (= 1.6.dfsg.2), libgssglue1, libk5crypto3 (=
1.6.dfsg.2), libkrb5-3 (= 1.6.dfsg.2), libnfsidmap2, libtirpc1,
libwrap0 (= 7.6-4~), nfs-common (= 1:1.2.3-1), ucf, lsb-base (=
1.3-9ubuntu3)
x61s:~# dpkg -i nfs-common_1.2.2-5_i386.deb 
dpkg: warning: downgrading nfs-common from 1:1.2.3-1 to 1:1.2.2-5.
(Reading database ... 177879 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace nfs-common 1:1.2.3-1 (using
nfs-common_1.2.2-5_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement nfs-common ...
Setting up nfs-common (1:1.2.2-5) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/nfs-common ...
Stopping NFS common utilities: statd.
Starting NFS common utilities: statd.
Processing triggers for man-db ...
x61s:~# 


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Re: dpkg bug regarding dependencies?

On 2011-04-02 21:22 +0200, Wolfgang Karall wrote:

 Hello,

 when trying to work around
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620088 I downgraded
 nfs-common to the version in testing, which actually worked, even though
 nfs-kernel-server has a versioned dependency on nfs-common (see below), 
 is this a bug in dpkg or did I miss something regarding the versioned
 dependency handling?

This seems to be bug #20471¹.

Sven


¹ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=20471


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getting nouveau to work on my PC (was Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv


On 4/2/11 3:44 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-04-02 10:24 +0200, Fumiaki Okushi wrote:


On 04/02/2011 12:43 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-04-02 08:49 +0200, Fumiaki Okushi wrote:


I'm running Debian Squeeze amd64.
I'm trying to go back to using nv after trying to get nouveau working
and failed.


I'm sorry that nouveau did not work for you.  Could you please elaborate
what the problem was?


Thank you for your response.

To be honest with you, I don't know what the problem was.
First, my monitor refused saying that it's out of range.
The dmesg showed that it inferred the screen size to be 1024x768,
so I booted with video=1920x1080 (native monitor size).


I would suspect that the monitor is broken and provides no or invalid
EDID.  The kernel then uses 1024x768 as fallback, since this resolution
is usually safe.


Yes, EDID is blank (according to Xorg.0.log), which is why I have to 
populate xorg.conf with the correct params to use this monitor.



The dmesg output reflected the change but the monitor continued to say out of 
range.


It might help to specify the refresh rate as well.  See
http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting for all the
arguments that you can supply with the video=… parameter.


Thanks for pointing me to the wiki page.
I had already gone to that wiki page, but didn't read all the way to the 
end.
It turns out that an important piece of info was at the end of the page, 
which was on how to disable specific outputs.
In my case, once I disabled the TV port, the console started working in 
1024x768 mode, and X started up in 1920x1080 (per modeline in xorg.conf).


Thank you thank you thank you!!

The rest of this email summarizes what I did, in case it is useful to 
someone.

I've also modified the email subject line.


Problem:

Cannot get nouveau to work.
Simply changing the driver from nv (working) to nouveau caused the 
monitor to display out of range message.

This happens with both console (once nouveau takes over) and X.


Environment:

AMD64 system running Squeeze with all the updates.
Stock kernel.
lspci reports video as

00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 
LE] (rev a2)


Xorg.0.log says nouveau driver detected

(--) NOUVEAU(0): Chipset: NVIDIA NV4e

The monitor doesn't return EDID so having the correct params in 
xorg.conf is critical for my setup.



Path to resolution:

The PC only has a VGA connector at the back.
However, dmesg (with nouveau loaded), reports 3 outputs.

[7.348137] [drm] nouveau :00:05.0: Detected a VGA connector
[7.348202] [drm] nouveau :00:05.0: Detected a DVI-D connector
[7.348235] [drm] nouveau :00:05.0: Detected a TV connector

Also, several lines down, there are messages that suggest maybe VGA and 
TV are trying to use the same output B (I'm not so sure if I'm reading 
this correctly):


[7.499388] [drm] nouveau :00:05.0: Output VGA-1 is running on 
CRTC 0 using output B
[7.509673] [drm] nouveau :00:05.0: Output TV-1 is running on 
CRTC 1 using output B


The bottom of http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting 
explains how to disable specific outputs.
I tried booting the kernel with video=TV-1:d and the console (after 
nouveau took over) started in 1024x768 and X started in 1920x1080 (per 
modeline in xorg.conf).

dmesg also shows the line

[7.294315] [drm] forcing TV-1 connector OFF

I further added video=VGA-1:1920x1080M@60 and the console (after nouveau 
took over) also started in 1920x1080.



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Re: Gnucash

2011-04-02 Thread green

lee mary wrote at 2011-04-02 07:07 -0500:
 I am using the Gnucash now. In the account registry, I need to use the TAB 
 key to move forward which is not so convenient for me. I wonder whether there 
 are any software I can use to control the function key on the keyboard to 
 replace the TAB key.

xev will show you the keycode of a key-press.
xmodmap will allow you to change the behavior of a key to Tab.

See man xev and man xmodmap.


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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv


On 04/02/2011 12:44 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]


My video card has a RIVA TNT2 chipset, which is no longer supported by
the proprietary nvidia driver.  (The legacy 71xx driver supports it,


Time to accept the reality that time has passed by the Riva TNT2.

NewEgg sells an AGP8X GeForce 5200 for $30 and GeForce 6200 for $35, and 
they might be even cheaper on eBay.


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Re: FAT: Filesystem panic

2011-04-02 Thread Stanisław Findeisen

On 2011-04-01 13:06, George Chelidze wrote:
 I'v got 2 boxes running squeeze and lenny, both up to date. On a box
 with squeeze, I copied 1.8G images to a 2G flash drive and tried to move
 them to my lenny box. After mounting a drive (hal) on a lenny box cpu
 jumped to 100%, and after about 30 secs a new window came up with some
 weird file names. Here is the output from cmd line:
 
 # ls -l
 ls: cannot access =jm°£û≈,.1/¡: No such file or directory
 ls: cannot access íz╫ƒuìöm.«/e: No such file or directory
 ls: cannot access kε╔┌*╧┘á.?/╧: No such file or directory
 ...
 
 dmesg output:
 
 [5372932.625012] FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sdd1)
 [5372932.625016] invalid access to FAT (entry 0xf7ab)
 
 [5374942.645072] FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sdd1)
 [5374942.645075] fat_bmap_cluster: request beyond EOF (i_pos 8268)

Hm, up to date Lenny with 5374942 seconds uptime?

Maybe you should reboot after you do an update? Not sure how update
works but if it only changes the files, and not the images of running
kernel or processes... And if you do several updates over 2 months
period with no reboot... ??

Have you checked what your file names:

=jm°£û≈,.1/¡
íz╫ƒuìöm.«/e
kε╔┌*╧┘á.?/╧

are in hex, for instance?

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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv

On 2011-04-02 22:16 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:

 On 04/02/2011 12:44 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
 [snip]

 My video card has a RIVA TNT2 chipset, which is no longer supported by
 the proprietary nvidia driver.  (The legacy 71xx driver supports it,

 Time to accept the reality that time has passed by the Riva TNT2.

 NewEgg sells an AGP8X GeForce 5200 for $30 and GeForce 6200 for $35,
 and they might be even cheaper on eBay.

The only question is whether any of these cards will be compatible¹ with
the AGP slot in Stephen's board.

Sven


¹ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Graphics_Port#Compatibility


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Problem with fonts in console

2011-04-02 Thread James Brown

I use the Debian OS on my laptopAcer TravelMate 3043.
Earlier I used Debian Lenny AMD64, which I have upgraded to Debian
Squeeze AMD64.
  ~$ dmesg | grep -i video
  [0.971306] pci :00:02.0: Boot video device
  [5.070696] input: Video Bus as
/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input6
  [5.070784] ACPI: Video Device [GFX0] (multi-head: yes  rom: no
post: no)
  [7.025462] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
  ~$ lspci
  00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS,
943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile
945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
  00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,
943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
I had no such problem with Debian Lenny, but after upgrading to Squeeze
the fonts in my console became very small.
I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and sudo dpkg-reconfigure
console-cyrillic but I have had no any success. (Under Lenny I had
configured my console fonts such method without any problems).
I tried to set vga=792 into my /boot/grub.cfg but have no success too.

How I can resolve the above problem?


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Re: sshd is starting niced -2 on it's own?

2011-04-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras


On 03/26/2011 12:56 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Hello list. I am on Debian 5 (Lenny), always keep it up-to-date (per
aptitude update; aptitude full-upgrade), and I have a problem that I
don't know how to solve (or have any idea how it appeared in the first
place.)

The problem is that all processes started by users have a nice value of
-2. The root cause seems to be that the sshd daemon seems to start with
-2, and as a result, when logging in, bash is also started with -2 and
therefore all further processes too.

I have searched a lot, but all answers I found don't seem to apply here.
For example, my /etc/security/limits.conf only has these entries:

* soft nproc 150
* hard nproc 200

I also can't spot anything weird in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.

What could be causing sshd to start with nice -2 by default?


(Just bumping.)


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accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

I have a Wheezy host, an XP virtualbox client, and an old LaserJet 5MP
configured with CUPS and connected by a parallel port.  How can I access this
printer from the XP client?

In XP Add Printer, I tried to define a network printer at these URLs:

  http://127.0.0.1:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP
  http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

but they were not found.  (192.168.1.2 is my port on a local router; ifconfig
shows it for eth0.)  The CUPS interface at localhost:631 lists the connection
site as parallel:/dev/lp0.

I have not set up Samba sharing.  As shown below, /etc/cups/printers.conf
shows the printer as shared, and I thought that should suffice.

I gather virtualbox won't support the parallel-port connection directly.  I
did succeed with a USB-to-parallel adapter cable and defining a USB printer,
but I'd rather use the CUPS shared printer if possible.

Thanks.

- /etc/cups/printers.conf -
Printer LaserJet_5MP
Info HP_LaserJet_5MP
Location office
MakeModel HP LaserJet 5MP Postscript (recommended)
DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0
State Idle
StateTime 1301774690
Type 8425540
Product (Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 5P)
Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 -
Filter application/vnd.cups-command 0 commandtops
Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 0 -
Accepting Yes
Shared Yes
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
OpPolicy default
ErrorPolicy stop-printer
/Printer


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Re: dpkg bug regarding dependencies?

2011-04-02 Thread System User

On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:40:30PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
  is this a bug in dpkg or did I miss something regarding the versioned
  dependency handling?
 
 This seems to be bug #20471?.

Ah, thanks for pointing this out, haven't noticed it with
reportbug/bugs.d.o.

I actually wonder why this is not serious as Raphaël Herzog says at
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481823#10 (after all
the state of the packages stays in this unresolved-dependencies state
until the next APT/dpkg activity) but OTOH I can understand it's low
priority.

Regards
Wolfgang


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3D video player

2011-04-02 Thread r-cassim


hi all,

Is there any 3D video player for debian lenny

or there any how to for playing 3D video


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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

On 2011-04-02, Steve Kleene sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu wrote:
 I have a Wheezy host, an XP virtualbox client, and an old LaserJet 5MP
 configured with CUPS and connected by a parallel port.  How can I access this
 printer from the XP client?

 In XP Add Printer, I tried to define a network printer at these URLs:

   http://127.0.0.1:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP
   http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

 but they were not found.  (192.168.1.2 is my port on a local router; ifconfig
 shows it for eth0.)  The CUPS interface at localhost:631 lists the connection
 site as parallel:/dev/lp0.

Assuming the virtualbox client uses NAT networking (the default), the
client can't connect directly to the host's CUPS daemon. Instead tell it
to connect to the virtual private address 10.0.2.0 or similar; see the
output of the route command on the guest to determine the precise
gateway address.


 I have not set up Samba sharing.  As shown below, /etc/cups/printers.conf
 shows the printer as shared, and I thought that should suffice.

Yes, samba should not be necessary.


 I gather virtualbox won't support the parallel-port connection directly.  I
 did succeed with a USB-to-parallel adapter cable and defining a USB printer,
 but I'd rather use the CUPS shared printer if possible.

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Fallacy of rebooting after updates (was Re: FAT: Filesystem panic)


On 04/02/2011 03:23 PM, Stanisław Findeisen wrote:
[snip]


Hm, up to date Lenny with 5374942 seconds uptime?

Maybe you should reboot after you do an update? Not sure how update
works but if it only changes the files, and not the images of running
kernel or processes... And if you do several updates over 2 months
period with no reboot... ??



The checkinstall (in the debian-goodies package) script will show you 
all the processes holding obsolete images, and will usually tell you the 
script to run in order to restart them.


Only kernel upgrades require a reboot (but there are some clever people 
who have gotten around that).


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Re: How come dist-upgrade needed in lenny?

On 2011-04-02, Tapio Lehtonen tapio.lehto...@dnainternet.net wrote:
 Lenny can not install bind9 update in the usual upgrade way, because 
 this upgrade needs two package removals and two new packages to be 
 installed. I think this should be mentioned in the security note of this 
 bind9 upgrade or otherwise inform users so they do not waste time 
 figuring out what is happening and how to get the upgrade installed.

I've seen such warnings in the past, on the rare occasions when security
updates required a full-upgrade or dist-upgrade.

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re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv

2011-04-02 Thread Stephen Powell

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 16:16:29 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote:
 
 Time to accept the reality that time has passed by the Riva TNT2.
 
 NewEgg sells an AGP8X GeForce 5200 for $30 and GeForce 6200 for $35, and 
 they might be even cheaper on eBay.

I replace hardware when it no longer meets my needs (hard disk too small,
not enough RAM, etc.)  That is not the case here.  The hardware works
perfectly, and it meets my needs.  I'll download the source code for
nv and compile it myself if I have to, rather than throw away perfectly
good hardware.  If I get to the point where I can no longer make it
work, I'll replace the monitor.  I've got four monitors lying around
in the basement that I'm not using.  And I've also got three other
computers lying around that I'm not using.  I'll bet that at least
one of them has a video card with a supported driver that supports
interlacing, and I can use the monitor I'm using now with one of them.
But it's good to know that cheap video cards are available.

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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:33:25 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I have a Wheezy host, an XP virtualbox client, and an old LaserJet 5MP
 configured with CUPS and connected by a parallel port.  How can I access this
 printer from the XP client?

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:52:13 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole replied:

 Assuming the virtualbox client uses NAT networking (the default), the
 client can't connect directly to the host's CUPS daemon. Instead tell it
 to connect to the virtual private address 10.0.2.0 or similar; see the
 output of the route command on the guest to determine the precise
 gateway address.

Thanks, but I'm not there yet.  On the XP client, I ran route from the
command prompt and got, in part:

route PRINT
route ADD 157.0.0.0 MASK 255.0.0.0  157.55.80.1 METRIC 3 IF 2
   destination^  ^mask  ^gateway metric^^
   Interface^

So I tried setting up an XP network printer at these two URLs:

  http://157.55.80.1:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP
  http://157.0.0.0:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

but neither was found.  I also tried 192.168.1.0, which is shown by route on
the Linux host.  LaserJet_5MP is the correct Linux name for the printer,
but I must still be doing something wrong.


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Re: cannot go back from nouveau to nv


On 04/02/2011 04:17 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]

But it's good to know that cheap video cards are available.



And monitors.  Acer 17 4:3 LCD for $97 w/ free shipping.

(But obviously that's 3x as expensive as the video card.)

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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

On 2011-04-02, Steve Kleene sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu wrote:
 On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:33:25 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I have a Wheezy host, an XP virtualbox client, and an old LaserJet 5MP
 configured with CUPS and connected by a parallel port.  How can I access this
 printer from the XP client?

 On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:52:13 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole replied:

 Assuming the virtualbox client uses NAT networking (the default), the
 client can't connect directly to the host's CUPS daemon. Instead tell it
 to connect to the virtual private address 10.0.2.0 or similar; see the
 output of the route command on the guest to determine the precise
 gateway address.

 Thanks, but I'm not there yet.  On the XP client, I ran route from the
 command prompt and got, in part:

 route PRINT
 route ADD 157.0.0.0 MASK 255.0.0.0  157.55.80.1 METRIC 3 IF 2
destination^  ^mask  ^gateway metric^^
Interface^

That gateway is an external, routable IP address. What sort of networking
are you using in virtualbox? Can you tell us more about the network
configuration within the XP guest OS?


 So I tried setting up an XP network printer at these two URLs:

   http://157.55.80.1:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP
   http://157.0.0.0:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

 but neither was found.  I also tried 192.168.1.0, which is shown by route on
 the Linux host.  LaserJet_5MP is the correct Linux name for the printer,
 but I must still be doing something wrong.

You need to arrange for the XP guest to connect to the CUPS daemon on
the wheezy host (and configure the CUPS daemon to accept such
connections). I don't think that the router IP address is relevant here.

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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:52:13 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole replied:

 Instead tell it
 to connect to the virtual private address 10.0.2.0 or similar; see the
 output of the route command on the guest to determine the precise
 gateway address.

Route didn't give me such an address, but ipconfig /all gave me these:

IP Address 10.0.2.15
gateway 10.0.2.2

I tried this sort of thing as a URL for the network printer:

  http://10.0.2.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

but still no luck.


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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

 What sort of networking
 are you using in virtualbox? Can you tell us more about the network
 configuration within the XP guest OS?

The virtualbox manager says
  Adapter 1: PCnet-FAST III (NAT)

/etc/cups/printers.conf (see the original post) does say that the printer is
shared.  At the CUPS web interface
(http://localhost:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP), though, the header says Not
Shared.  So I'm not sure about that.


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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

On 2011-04-02, Steve Kleene sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu wrote:
 On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:52:13 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole replied:

 Instead tell it
 to connect to the virtual private address 10.0.2.0 or similar; see the
 output of the route command on the guest to determine the precise
 gateway address.

 Route didn't give me such an address, but ipconfig /all gave me these:

 IP Address 10.0.2.15
 gateway 10.0.2.2

Ah, that looks more familiar!


 I tried this sort of thing as a URL for the network printer:

   http://10.0.2.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

 but still no luck.


We're getting there.

Is the the CUPS daemon listening on the external network interface of
the host OS as well as localhost? Is it configured to accept connections
from other than localhost? The log files under /var/log/cups on the host
OS will contain information on any refused connections.

(I don't have a Windows XP guest to hand, but I have just set up a RHEL
guest to use the host's CUPS system. It can be done.)

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Cork, Ireland


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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client