date:20111127

Hola,
Sabeis a que puede ser debido el mensaje de fallo en el kernel
2.6.38-5-bpo que os indico a continuación:

Kernel failure message 1:
[ cut here ]
WARNING: at 
/build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.38-5~bpo60+1-i386-B7LqDK/linux-2.6-2.6.38/debian/build/source_i386_none/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_fence.c:248
radeon_fence_wait+0x251/0x2d7 [radeon]()
Hardware name: iMac5,1
GPU lockup (waiting for 0x083B last fence id 0x0836)
Modules linked in: hid_magicmouse nls_utf8 isofs nls_cp437 udf vfat
fat hidp acpi_cpufreq mperf cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_powersave
cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_stats parport_pc ppdev lp parport sco bridge
stp bnep rfcomm l2cap nfsd lockd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss sunrpc exportfs
binfmt_misc fuse ssb mmc_core pcmcia pcmcia_core loop firewire_sbp2
snd_hda_codec_idt snd_hda_intel btusb bluetooth rfkill radeon
snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_pcm ttm snd_seq snd_timer drm_kms_helper
snd_seq_device drm i2c_algo_bit applesmc power_supply snd
input_polldev button processor video soundcore snd_page_alloc i2c_i801
rng_core i2c_core isight_firmware ndiswrapper(O) pcspkr tpm_tis tpm
tpm_bios thermal_sys hid_apple evdev usb_storage uas usbhid hid ext4
mbcache jbd2 crc16 sg sr_mod cdrom sd_mod crc_t10dif ata_generic
uhci_hcd ata_piix libata ehci_hcd scsi_mod usbcore firewire_ohci
firewire_core sky2 crc_itu_t nls_base [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]
Pid: 1340, comm: Xorg Tainted: PW  O 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 #1
Call Trace:
 [c102fa51] ? warn_slowpath_common+0x6a/0x7b
 [f8523b4d] ? radeon_fence_wait+0x251/0x2d7 [radeon]
 [c102fac8] ? warn_slowpath_fmt+0x28/0x2c
 [f8523b4d] ? radeon_fence_wait+0x251/0x2d7 [radeon]
 [c1044d66] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x29
 [f82844bf] ? ttm_bo_wait+0xad/0x135 [ttm]
 [f853505d] ? radeon_bo_wait+0x5e/0x7c [radeon]
 [f85350a2] ? radeon_gem_wait_idle_ioctl+0x27/0x50 [radeon]
 [f82affa4] ? drm_ioctl+0x224/0x2d5 [drm]
 [f853507b] ? radeon_gem_wait_idle_ioctl+0x0/0x50 [radeon]
 [c10a3b97] ? handle_pte_fault+0x2c5/0x80f
 [c11458f8] ? prio_tree_insert+0x150/0x1cc
 [f82afd80] ? drm_ioctl+0x0/0x2d5 [drm]
 [c10c8fb4] ? do_vfs_ioctl+0x494/0x4df
 [c10a7483] ? mmap_region+0x328/0x3fb
 [c10c9043] ? sys_ioctl+0x44/0x64
 [c1002f1f] ? sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28
---[ end trace 4d111c5bd88900e9 ]---


Lo cierto es que la actualización a kernel 3.1.- pae me está trayendo
mas problemas que ni la porra, por eso mantengo el 2.6.38, pero
resulta que ahora este me empieza a dar también.

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Re: aplicacion para examenes

2011-11-27 Thread Alexander Villalba

Estoy completamente deacuerdo con lo que has dicho. Hace falta más
moderación. Aunque en comparación con lo que me ha tocado vivir aquí eso
no es nada.

no se porque la gente no se adapta, no es como si yo... si fueran como
yo, entonces el mundo seria YO...



El dom, 27-11-2011 a las 08:54 -0500, Ricardo Mendoza escribió:
 Creo que el problema no es  de la gente, en este caso como tu
 mencionas,y como tu insinuas que yo tengo un problema al hacer esta
 pregunta en la lista buscando que todo me lo resuelvan, recurro a la
 lista para escuchar opiniones, y creo que he sido sincero en mi
 pregunta, el problema es tuyo en este caso, el grado de violencia de
 tu respuesta muestra mucho como te sientes.Vives con ira. El mejor
 ejemplo son las diferentes soluciones que otras personas han aportado
 sin agredirme o sin justificar una intervencion para generar un
 conflicto donde no lo hay. 
 
 No quiero hacer de este post un infinito flame y alimentar un troll,
 ni quiero entrar en discusiones exteriles con personas que buscan
 exteriorizar su ira incluso en una lista de correo. Agradecezco a las
 personas que ha bien lo tengan seguir sugiriendome alguna solucion si
 entrar en agresiones innecesarias.Hare una descripcion mas amplia de
 mi necesidad, si ese es el punto. 
 
 Estoy sorprendido en el poco tiempo que llevo en la lista del alto
 grado de agresion, que se vive en la lista debian
 internacional,primera vez que veo algo asi en una lista, no me
 esperaba eso. Insultos van y bien por las razones mas irrisorias.
 Espero que esto no desate otra discusion sin sentido,y si esto es asi
 es mejor cerrar el hilo.
 
 
  



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Re: Fallo en el kernel 2.6.38

2011-11-27 Thread Flako

2011/11/27 J. OCTAVIO Avalos octavioava...@gmail.com:
 drm/radeon/radeon_fence.c:248
 radeon_fence_wait+0x251/0x2d7 [radeon]()
 Hardware name: iMac5,1

Reinstala el driver de tu radeon (placa de video?) si lo bajaste de
algun lado, si es el que viene de en la distro, reinstala el Xorg.
Algo de lo que cambiaste no se lleva bien con tu placa de video..


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Re: aplicacion para examenes

2011-11-27 Thread Gerardo Diez

El día 27 de noviembre de 2011 14:54, Ricardo Mendoza
pgsql...@gmail.com escribió:

 No quiero hacer de este post un infinito flame y alimentar un troll, ni
 quiero entrar en discusiones exteriles con personas que buscan exteriorizar
 su ira incluso en una lista de correo. Agradecezco a las personas que ha
 bien lo tengan seguir sugiriendome alguna solucion si entrar en agresiones
 innecesarias.Hare una descripcion mas amplia de mi necesidad, si ese es el
 punto.
Pues no sé si ese es el punto pero desde luego (te) ayudaría mucho.
Hacer una pregunta sin aportar muchos datos es dejar la puerta abierta
a dar palos de ciego


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Re: problemas tarjeta de sonido

El Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:36:32 -0600, rantis cares escribió:

 El día 26 de noviembre de 2011 15:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Vuelve a poner la salida uname -a; cat /etc/debian_version.
 
 Linux SMD-09 2.6.18-6-486 #1 Sat Dec 27 08:57:46 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
 4.0

Sigues con Debian Etch y esa versión ya es antigua.

 No, la verdad es que nunca me habia sucedido esto, solo seguia lo que
 te explique y funcionaba todo bien, nunca tuve la necesidad de
 compilar.

 Con Etch me extraña, es una versión muy antigua.
 
 Sin embargo nunca tuve tanto problema para activar el sonido.

¿Nunca tuviste problemas con esa tarjeta de sonido? ¿Quiere decir que 
alguna vez te ha funcionado? ¿Con qué versión de Debian?

 Ya intente compilar mediante todo lo actual de alsa que me descargue,
 como te lo comente del link, pero al compilar, me arroja algunos
 errores.

 Normal... Es mejor que instales Squeeze.
 
 Para instalar o actualizar a squeeze tengo que hacer lo mismo que
 cambiar los repositorios a squeeze y apt-get update y apt-dist upgrade o
 te refieres a instalarlo de cero?

Oficialmente no está soportado saltar dos versiones de una sola vez, el 
manual recomienda actualizar primero a Lenny y después a Squeeze. No es 
algo que haya hecho nunca, yo siempre instalo desde cero.

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Re: aplicacion para examenes

El Sat, 26 Nov 2011 20:27:41 -0500, Ricardo Mendoza escribió:

 Me refiero a que no deseo montar un curso en moodle, crear una seccion y
 llenar un formato para hacer un examen, quiero una aplicacion que me
 permita directamente trabajar sobre la elaboracion de un examen en sus
 diferentes opciones preguntas de multiple respuesta,etc 

Para hacer esto (desarrollar una plantilla de examen) con LibreOffice 
Writer o cualquier otro procesador de textos sería suficiente.

 y publicar el examen si tiene la opcion de publicacion en linea o
 tomarse directamente en linea. No se si exista algo asi.

A ver, que esa pregunta es muy genérica. Para publicar el examen, puedes:

- Usar Google Docs o un espacio de trabajo compartido
- Usar tu propio servidor web

Pero si quieres tener el control de las respuestas y gestionarlas 
automáticamente necesitas un framework o una aplicación completa, como 
Moodle o similar pero que tenga todo ya desarrollado (tanto las 
plantillas gráficas como la programación necesaria para validar/verificar 
las respuestas correctas y publicarlas, generar estadísticas, etc...).

Si no te gusta Moodle por algún motivo, busca alguna aplicación similar, 
bien hospedada en tus servidores o en alguno externo... por ejemplo:

http://akfquiz.akfoerster.de
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ltestpackage/
http://itest.sourceforge.net/

Y aquí tienes varios que ofrecen ese tipo de servicios online:

http://www.quiz-creator.com/blog/2009/09/free-online-quiz-creator-software-create-online-quizzes/#176

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Re: Fallo en el kernel 2.6.38

El Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:03:19 +0100, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió:

 Sabeis a que puede ser debido el mensaje de fallo en el kernel
 2.6.38-5-bpo que os indico a continuación:

 Kernel failure message 1:
 [ cut here ]
 WARNING: at
 /build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.38-5~bpo60+1-i386-B7LqDK/linux-2.6-2.6.38/debian/build/source_i386_none/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_fence.c:248
 radeon_fence_wait+0x251/0x2d7 [radeon]() 
 Hardware name: iMac5,1

(...)

Informa del error. Parece un problema del driver radeon con el kernel de 
los backports.

 Lo cierto es que la actualización a kernel 3.1.- pae me está trayendo
 mas problemas que ni la porra, por eso mantengo el 2.6.38, pero resulta
 que ahora este me empieza a dar también.

Compila un kernel por tu cuenta bajado desde kernel.org, es realmente 
sencillo y no tiene efectos secundarios. Yo los estoy compilando como 
churros. Al igual que tú desde el 2.6.38 tengo problemas con el wifi, el 
lector de tarjetas, el bluetooth... ahora mismo tengo cargado el 3.2-rc3, 
aunque los problemas no se han solucionado :-/

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Re: aplicacion para examenes

2011-11-27 Thread Ricardo Mendoza

La idea es administrar una serie de pruebas/examenes de evaluacion de
conocimientos informáticos, para que una persona apruebe o reprueba la
demostracion de tales habilidades, el
examen comprende preguntas de seleccion multiple, o de multiple respuesta,
se necesita acompañar ha algunas de las preguntas con
imagenes,graficos,ilustraciones,etc, textos desde los que se formula la
pregunta de evaluacion del examen y se dan las diferentes opciones de
respuesta en las diferentes modalidades de preguntas que contiene el
examen, ya sea en formato virtual, en linea o virtual off-line. A la misma
vez que permita generar el  formato del examen de forma impresa,hoja de
preguntas y hoja de respuestas para que pueda ser llenado por el aprendiz.

No me inclino por moodle como primera opcion por que Ha mi modo de ver no
es una aplicacion para examenes,sino para un proposito mas amplio,  estoy
buscando algo que me permita definir formato de examenes directamente.Sin
embargo lo considerare llegado el caso.

Re: aplicacion para examenes

2011-11-27 Thread Ricardo Mendoza

Creo que entos enlaces hay algo que me pueda servir, gracias.

Re: problemas tarjeta de sonido

2011-11-27 Thread rantis cares

El domingo 27 de noviembre de 2011, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:36:32 -0600, rantis cares escribió:

 El día 26 de noviembre de 2011 15:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Vuelve a poner la salida uname -a; cat /etc/debian_version.

 Linux SMD-09 2.6.18-6-486 #1 Sat Dec 27 08:57:46 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
 4.0

 Sigues con Debian Etch y esa versión ya es antigua.

 No, la verdad es que nunca me habia sucedido esto, solo seguia lo que
 te explique y funcionaba todo bien, nunca tuve la necesidad de
 compilar.

 Con Etch me extraña, es una versión muy antigua.

 Sin embargo nunca tuve tanto problema para activar el sonido.

 ¿Nunca tuviste problemas con esa tarjeta de sonido? ¿Quiere decir que
 alguna vez te ha funcionado? ¿Con qué versión de Debian?

No me explique bien, nunca tuve problemas con la tarjeta de sonido con
otras versiones de distros y otro hardware (siempre he usado equipos que ya
nadie quiere por viejos) y Sucede que hace tiempo me compre una super
motherboard para ese tiempo, y nunca me sirvio el audio. Pero nunca tuve
necesidad de usar el audio y no me importo, lo deje asi hasta ahora wue si
lo necesito


 Ya intente compilar mediante todo lo actual de alsa que me descargue,
 como te lo comente del link, pero al compilar, me arroja algunos
 errores.

 Normal... Es mejor que instales Squeeze.

 Para instalar o actualizar a squeeze tengo que hacer lo mismo que
 cambiar los repositorios a squeeze y apt-get update y apt-dist upgrade o
 te refieres a instalarlo de cero?

 Oficialmente no está soportado saltar dos versiones de una sola vez, el
 manual recomienda actualizar primero a Lenny y después a Squeeze. No es
 algo que haya hecho nunca, yo siempre instalo desde cero.

De hecho cuando te envie la informacion de la version, ya habia yo migrado
a lenny... Que raro ¿No?. Ahora que te escribo ya migre a squeeze mediante
apt-get distupgrade y ¿que crees?

YA FUNCIONA, realmente no tuve que hacer nada unicamente migre, y ejecute
alsaconf y segui instrucciones Y QUEDO FINCIONANDO.

Pero que crees?. ¡Ahora se desconfiguro el entorno grafico!

Ya estoy en busca de resolverlo.

Gracias

ASUNTO RESUELTO



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Re: Fallo en el kernel 2.6.38

El driver que se instaló fue el que trae el sistema yo no le toqué
nada. Hasta ahora no me había dado ningún problema pero alguna
actualización de los repositorios metio algo raro que empezó a darme
estos problemas. Primero los advertí con el Kernel 3.0 PAE que fue el
que me instaló en una actualización a wheezy desde ese momento llevo
reinstalado el sistema por lo menos unas 10 veces sin que sea capaz de
pasarlo a wheezy sin que me de problemas bastante graves, por cierto.
Voy a seguir los consejos y acabaré compilando el kernel. Los de la
rama 3.0.1 en adelante algo traen que cuando se instalan con los
repositorios empiezan a dar una información y a hacer unas preguntas
sobre la misma, que hasta ahora no había visto.

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Re: recuperar datos llave USB

2011-11-27 Thread Francesc Guitart

El día 25 de noviembre de 2011 01:19, Analía Lorenzatto
analialorenza...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola  a todos!

 Francesc, podrías probar si el pendrive tiene unidades defectuosas
 con:
 badblocks /dev/sdX


Gracias por la info. Me será útil para próximas ocasiones.


 Otra alternativa que se me ocurre es, es que lo enchufes, pero que no
 lo montes.  Luego tratás de hacer una imágen del pendrive:
 dd if=/dev/sdX of=/archivo_imagen_de_pendrive

En ningún momento monto el pen, sobretodo porque no puedo. Como ya
decía en el primer mensaje no puedo clonar el pen ni con dd ni con
ddrescue.

 quizás puedas recuperar los datos.
 Una consulta, antes podías leer el pendrive?

Pues eso creo pero no puedo decirte más. El pendrive no es mio, me lo
trajeron para ver si podía hacer algo con él y ya lo he devuelto.

 Contános cómo te va con eso :)
 Saludos.

Gracias por responder.


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Generar un módulo del kernel (fat)

Hola,

Ayer descargué, compilé e instalé el kernel 3.2.0-rc3 descargado desde  
www.kernel.org. 

Todo fue bien pero se me olvidó compilar el módulo para el sistema de 
archivos fat O:-)

Lo intento hacer ahora pero no sé cómo hacerlo, explico:

- Tengo las fuentes en /usr/src/linux-3.2-rc3
- Me pongo en ese directorio y ejecuto:

make SUBDIRS=fs/fat clean
make SUBDIRS=fs/fat modules

Pero me dice:

Building modules, stage 2
MODPOST 0 modules

Es decir, que no se genera el fat.ko.

Si le añado V=1 veo que se queja:

Error: kernel configuration is invalid
include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing
Run make oldconfig  make prepare on kernel src to fix it 

Vale, pues lo hago (ejecuto los comandos) pero me sigue diciendo lo mismo.

También he probado a lo bruto y desde el directorio de las fuentes he 
ejecutado:

make modules

Veo que se generan algunos módulos (unos cuatrocientos y pico) pero no el 
que me interesa.

¿Alguna idea?

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Re: Una de bash y diff recursivo

2011-11-27 Thread Francesc Guitart

El día 25 de noviembre de 2011 13:16, jmramirez (mas_ke_na)
mas_ke...@hotmail.com escribió:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Buenas a todos

        Estoy haciendo un script para que sincronice dos directorios (un nas de
 un edificio con otro nas en otro edificio), antes tenia puesto el rsync.
 Pero se agotaba el tiempo de espera y daba muchos fallos ( la conexión
 entre nas'es no es muy buena). Así que decidí copiar archivo por archivo
 ( hago otros backups correctamente de esta forma pero este me da
 problemas (Por los subdirectorios)) y que enviara correo. Así en caso de
 fallos se en que punto se quedo y puedo retomarlo.

Para conexiones lentas puedes usar el modificador -z de rsync que
comprime el backup, aunque en tu caso, según entiendo, después
deberías descomprimirlo en el destino.

Por otro lado no entiendo cuando dices que la ventaja del script
respecto al rsync es que si hay fallos sabes en que punto se ha
quedado. Con rsync no necesitas saber donde se ha quedado si se corta
la conexión, simplemente comprueba si ha terminado bien y si no lo
relanzas y continuará donde lo dejó.


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Re: Generar un módulo del kernel (fat)

2011-11-27 Thread fernando sainz

El día 27 de noviembre de 2011 19:42, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola,

 Ayer descargué, compilé e instalé el kernel 3.2.0-rc3 descargado desde
 www.kernel.org.

 Todo fue bien pero se me olvidó compilar el módulo para el sistema de
 archivos fat O:-)

¿qué quieres decir con que se te olvido compilar el módulo?
Hace tantos años que no compilo un kernel
¿No lo marcaste como módulo en el .config?


Suerte. Siento no poder ayudarte :-)
S2


 Lo intento hacer ahora pero no sé cómo hacerlo, explico:

 - Tengo las fuentes en /usr/src/linux-3.2-rc3
 - Me pongo en ese directorio y ejecuto:

 make SUBDIRS=fs/fat clean
 make SUBDIRS=fs/fat modules

 Pero me dice:

 Building modules, stage 2
 MODPOST 0 modules

 Es decir, que no se genera el fat.ko.

 Si le añado V=1 veo que se queja:

 Error: kernel configuration is invalid
 include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing
 Run make oldconfig  make prepare on kernel src to fix it

 Vale, pues lo hago (ejecuto los comandos) pero me sigue diciendo lo mismo.

 También he probado a lo bruto y desde el directorio de las fuentes he
 ejecutado:

 make modules

 Veo que se generan algunos módulos (unos cuatrocientos y pico) pero no el
 que me interesa.

 ¿Alguna idea?

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Actualizacion de Squeeze interrumpida

Hola a todos,
¡Vaya fin de semana, contando el viernes también! Sabeis como puedo
limpiar el sistema despues de que se haya interrumpido, al quedar
colgado el sistema, una actualización bastante grande de squeeze.
Me da la sensación de que tengo todo enmerdado después de hacer una
instalación limpia esta mañana.

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Re: Actualizacion de Squeeze interrumpida

2011-11-27 Thread fernando sainz

El día 27 de noviembre de 2011 20:22, J. OCTAVIO Avalos
octavioava...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola a todos,
 ¡Vaya fin de semana, contando el viernes también! Sabeis como puedo
 limpiar el sistema despues de que se haya interrumpido, al quedar
 colgado el sistema, una actualización bastante grande de squeeze.
 Me da la sensación de que tengo todo enmerdado después de hacer una
 instalación limpia esta mañana.

 Un saludo

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Tendrías que explicarte mejor...
¿limpiar, qué?
Si el sistema arranca y puedes ejecutar aptitude, el sabrá por donde
estaba y continuará...

S2.


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Re: Actualizacion de Squeeze interrumpida

El 27/11/11, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió:
El día 27 de noviembre de 2011 20:22, J. OCTAVIO Avalos
octavioava...@gmail.com escribió:
Hola a todos,
¡Vaya fin de semana, contando el viernes también! Sabeis como puedo
limpiar el sistema despues de que se haya interrumpido, al quedar
colgado el sistema, una actualización bastante grande de squeeze.
Me da la sensación de que tengo todo enmerdado después de hacer una
instalación limpia esta mañana.

Un saludo

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Tendrías que explicarte mejor...
¿limpiar, qué?
Si el sistema arranca y puedes ejecutar aptitude, el sabrá por donde
estaba y continuará...

S2.

Claro, pero aquí es en donde esta la cuestión. Ayer me quedó una
actualización a Wheezy hecha un cristo, porque momentos antes se habia
interrumpido por un cuelque del sistema. De tal forma que me indicaba
que no podía ejecutar distintas ordenes (apt-get install -f, aptitude
-r, aptitude dist-ugrade ...) porque había paquetes de una
actualización anterior que no estaban bien instalados. A partir de
aquí ya fue todo un caos, motivo por el cual reinstalé todo esta
mañana. Pero ahora por la tarde cuando estaba haciendo un safe-upgrade
de squeeze se me volvió a colgar e interrumpió la actualización que
estaba haciendo.
Advierto que el sistema no lo tengo bien, me está dando problemas que
nunca dió. Lo curioso y para recochineo con el kernel que mejor
funciona es con el que viene squeeze, es decir el 2.6.32. Se da la
circunstancia (con Murphy presente en todo momento) que a partir de
este, todos los kernel traen incorporado el driver para el Magic Mouse
de apple, y a mi por ejemplo el 2.6.38 que está en los backports que
nunca me dio problema alguno, ahora se cuelga o apaga en cada
instante.

Por eso quería mirar si habia algún resto.

Un saludo

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Re: Actualizacion de Squeeze interrumpida

2011-11-27 Thread CruxoM


On 27/11/11 16:53, J. OCTAVIO Avalos wrote:

El 27/11/11, fernando sainzfernandojose.sa...@gmail.com  escribió:

El día 27 de noviembre de 2011 20:22, J. OCTAVIO Avalos
octavioava...@gmail.com  escribió:

Hola a todos,
¡Vaya fin de semana, contando el viernes también! Sabeis como puedo
limpiar el sistema despues de que se haya interrumpido, al quedar
colgado el sistema, una actualización bastante grande de squeeze.
Me da la sensación de que tengo todo enmerdado después de hacer una
instalación limpia esta mañana.

Un saludo

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Tendrías que explicarte mejor...
¿limpiar, qué?
Si el sistema arranca y puedes ejecutar aptitude, el sabrá por donde
estaba y continuará...

S2.


Claro, pero aquí es en donde esta la cuestión. Ayer me quedó una
actualización a Wheezy hecha un cristo, porque momentos antes se habia
interrumpido por un cuelque del sistema. De tal forma que me indicaba
que no podía ejecutar distintas ordenes (apt-get install -f, aptitude
-r, aptitude dist-ugrade ...) porque había paquetes de una
actualización anterior que no estaban bien instalados. A partir de
aquí ya fue todo un caos, motivo por el cual reinstalé todo esta
mañana. Pero ahora por la tarde cuando estaba haciendo un safe-upgrade
de squeeze se me volvió a colgar e interrumpió la actualización que
estaba haciendo.
Advierto que el sistema no lo tengo bien, me está dando problemas que
nunca dió. Lo curioso y para recochineo con el kernel que mejor
funciona es con el que viene squeeze, es decir el 2.6.32. Se da la
circunstancia (con Murphy presente en todo momento) que a partir de
este, todos los kernel traen incorporado el driver para el Magic Mouse
de apple, y a mi por ejemplo el 2.6.38 que está en los backports que
nunca me dio problema alguno, ahora se cuelga o apaga en cada
instante.

Por eso quería mirar si habia algún resto.

Un saludo



Cuando se me colgaba la máquina en una actualización, la mayoría de las 
veces se recuperaba con un

aptitude -f install

...pero no se si servirá en tu caso. Dos cuelgues al hilo en la misma pc 
habla de otra cosa, me parece..


saludos


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Re: Generar un módulo del kernel (fat)

2011-11-27 Thread Juan Antonio

El 27/11/11 19:42, Camaleón escribió:
 Hola,
 
 Ayer descargué, compilé e instalé el kernel 3.2.0-rc3 descargado desde  
 www.kernel.org. 
 
 Todo fue bien pero se me olvidó compilar el módulo para el sistema de 
 archivos fat O:-)
 
 Lo intento hacer ahora pero no sé cómo hacerlo, explico:
 
 - Tengo las fuentes en /usr/src/linux-3.2-rc3
 - Me pongo en ese directorio y ejecuto:
 
 make SUBDIRS=fs/fat clean
 make SUBDIRS=fs/fat modules
 
 Pero me dice:
 
 Building modules, stage 2
 MODPOST 0 modules
 
 Es decir, que no se genera el fat.ko.
 
 Si le añado V=1 veo que se queja:
 
 Error: kernel configuration is invalid
 include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing
 Run make oldconfig  make prepare on kernel src to fix it 
 
 Vale, pues lo hago (ejecuto los comandos) pero me sigue diciendo lo mismo.
 
 También he probado a lo bruto y desde el directorio de las fuentes he 
 ejecutado:
 
 make modules
 
 Veo que se generan algunos módulos (unos cuatrocientos y pico) pero no el 
 que me interesa.
 
 ¿Alguna idea?
 
 Saludos,
 


Sólo vuelve a hacer un menuconfig y habilita el soporte de vfat y
ejecuta make Si la anterior compilación es reciente unicamente debería
recompilar ese módulo y sus dependencias.

Despues  borra el /lib/modules/kernel-que-sea, make modules_install y
depmod -a y listo.


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Re: Actualizacion a debian squeeze y entorno grafico

2011-11-27 Thread Gonzalo Rivero

El dom, 27-11-2011 a las 15:30 -0600, rantis cares escribió:
 Saludos Listeroas:
 
 Bien, quiero comentarles que he realizado correcciones las cuales
 hacian que mi sistema no funcionara al todo.
 
 Ahora que ya corregí esos errores resulta que tengo otros.
 
 Al actualizar a debian ezqueeze (escuis) y al creer que ya funcionaba
 todo resulta que el me sale el problema del entorno gráfico. En algún
 momento creí que solamente era esto pero al ser mas cuidadoso me di
 cuenta que a habia errores desde el arranque y al revisar el log dice:
 
 Xargs.c:450: main: assertion ‘bc_ctl.arg_max = (131072-2048) failed
 bootclean: failure cleaning /tmp
 
 Asi me salen por lo menos 5 mensajes de diferentes directorios.
 
 Cuando el sistema me envia un mail, y al tratar de verlo mediante el
 comando mail, me aparece la siguiente leyenda
 
 Mail: /tmp: No space left on device
 
 Esto me resulta mas claro, seguramente se cambiaron los puntos de
 montaje o algo por el estilo o hubo una pequena variante.
 
 Alguna idea?.
borrar basura para hacer espacio. Ejemplo de basura: toda las
traducciones (incluso de documentación) a idiomas que no conocés...
total no manejás esos idiomas ¿para que conservarla?. El paquete que
hace esa magia por vos es localepurge
Fijate si están rotando bien los logs (en /var/log/), a veces no rotan y
algunos se ponen gordos muy rápido.

Para ver si te cambiaron los puntos de montaje, fijate en /etc/fstab si
está todo en orden. El espacio libre lo podés ver con df -h y con du
-hs /ruta/a/un/directorio/en/particular podés ver cuanto está ocupando


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Re: Actualizacion de Squeeze interrumpida

2011-11-27 Thread Gonzalo Rivero

El dom, 27-11-2011 a las 20:53 +0100, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: 
 El 27/11/11, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió:
  El día 27 de noviembre de 2011 20:22, J. OCTAVIO Avalos
  octavioava...@gmail.com escribió:
  Hola a todos,
  ¡Vaya fin de semana, contando el viernes también! Sabeis como puedo
  limpiar el sistema despues de que se haya interrumpido, al quedar
  colgado el sistema, una actualización bastante grande de squeeze.
  Me da la sensación de que tengo todo enmerdado después de hacer una
  instalación limpia esta mañana.
 
  Un saludo
 
  --
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  Tendrías que explicarte mejor...
  ¿limpiar, qué?
  Si el sistema arranca y puedes ejecutar aptitude, el sabrá por donde
  estaba y continuará...
 
  S2.
 
 Claro, pero aquí es en donde esta la cuestión. Ayer me quedó una
 actualización a Wheezy hecha un cristo, porque momentos antes se habia
 interrumpido por un cuelque del sistema. De tal forma que me indicaba
 que no podía ejecutar distintas ordenes (apt-get install -f, aptitude
 -r, aptitude dist-ugrade ...) porque había paquetes de una
 actualización anterior que no estaban bien instalados. A partir de
 aquí ya fue todo un caos, motivo por el cual reinstalé todo esta
 mañana. Pero ahora por la tarde cuando estaba haciendo un safe-upgrade
 de squeeze se me volvió a colgar e interrumpió la actualización que
 estaba haciendo.
 Advierto que el sistema no lo tengo bien, me está dando problemas que
 nunca dió. Lo curioso y para recochineo con el kernel que mejor
 funciona es con el que viene squeeze, es decir el 2.6.32. Se da la
 circunstancia (con Murphy presente en todo momento) que a partir de
 este, todos los kernel traen incorporado el driver para el Magic Mouse
 de apple, y a mi por ejemplo el 2.6.38 que está en los backports que
 nunca me dio problema alguno, ahora se cuelga o apaga en cada
 instante.
 
 Por eso quería mirar si habia algún resto.
 
 Un saludo
 

como ya te dijeron, dos cuelgues seguidos es para pensar en problemas de
hardware. Pero todavía podés intentar:
dpkg --configure -a --pending 
Con eso va a tratar de configurar los paquetes que sean configurables.
Después podés intentar nuevamente el
apt-get -f install
para que termine de descargar, instalar y configurar lo que te haya
quedado con dependencias rotas. En esta parte (o la anterior)
probablemente tengas que desinstalar algún paquete roto. Después podés
seguir con la actualización y finalmente reinstalar, si es necesario, lo
que hayas que tenido que borrar



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Re: Actualizacion a debian squeeze y entorno grafico

2011-11-27 Thread Walber Zaldivar


El 27/11/2011 04:30 p.m., rantis cares escribió:

Saludos Listeroas:

Bien, quiero comentarles que he realizado correcciones las cuales hacian
que mi sistema no funcionara al todo.

Ahora que ya corregí esos errores resulta que tengo otros.

Al actualizar a debian ezqueeze (escuis) y al creer que ya funcionaba
todo resulta que el me sale el problema del entorno gráfico. En algún
momento creí que solamente era esto pero al ser mas cuidadoso me di
cuenta que a habia errores desde el arranque y al revisar el log dice:

Xargs.c:450: main: assertion ‘bc_ctl.arg_max = (131072-2048) failed
bootclean: failure cleaning /tmp

Asi me salen por lo menos 5 mensajes de diferentes directorios.

Cuando el sistema me envia un mail, y al tratar de verlo mediante el
comando mail, me aparece la siguiente leyenda

Mail: /tmp: No space left on device

Esto me resulta mas claro, seguramente se cambiaron los puntos de
montaje o algo por el estilo o hubo una pequena variante.

Alguna idea?.



Yo haría lo que hace Camaleón y que es lo que yo hago también

Reinstala de cero!!!

En el upgrade de una versión a la otra aunque no debe pasar nada, 
puede suceder. Con un sistema limpio tu problema real saltará si 
tiene que ver con squeeze vs PC ;)


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Re: Actualizacion de Squeeze interrumpida

El 28/11/11, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió:
El dom, 27-11-2011 a las 20:53 +0100, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió:
El 27/11/11, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió:
El día 27 de noviembre de 2011 20:22, J. OCTAVIO Avalos
octavioava...@gmail.com escribió:
Hola a todos,
¡Vaya fin de semana, contando el viernes también! Sabeis como puedo
limpiar el sistema despues de que se haya interrumpido, al quedar
colgado el sistema, una actualización bastante grande de squeeze.
Me da la sensación de que tengo todo enmerdado después de hacer una
instalación limpia esta mañana.

Un saludo

--
Octavio Ávalos

Tendrías que explicarte mejor...
¿limpiar, qué?
Si el sistema arranca y puedes ejecutar aptitude, el sabrá por donde
estaba y continuará...

S2.

Por eso quería mirar si habia algún resto.

Un saludo

como ya te dijeron, dos cuelgues seguidos es para pensar en problemas de
hardware. Pero todavía podés intentar:
dpkg --configure -a --pending
Con eso va a tratar de configurar los paquetes que sean configurables.
Después podés intentar nuevamente el
apt-get -f install
para que termine de descargar, instalar y configurar lo que te haya
quedado con dependencias rotas. En esta parte (o la anterior)
probablemente tengas que desinstalar algún paquete roto. Después podés
seguir con la actualización y finalmente reinstalar, si es necesario, lo
que hayas que tenido que borrar

Nada, imposible de hacer algo que me pudiese solucionar el problema.
He optado por instalar squeeze desde cero y se acabaron los problemas.
pero claro, como os comenté antes el kernel por defecto es el 2.6.32 y
si quiero instalar otro, por ejemplo el 2.6.38 (que por cierto ya lo
tuve instalado sin problemas) algo ha variado en las actualizaciones o
no se donde, que me empieza a fallar la tarjeta gráfica Ati Radeon.
Repito, siempre me funciono perfectamente como lo está haciendo ahora
con la instalación de squeeze desde dvd, pero si actualizo ... Ya es
otro cantar.

Un saludo

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Tradução - Abstract

2011-11-27 Thread pedro almeida

Pessoal,


Estou fazendo meu trabalho de conclusão de curso, estou fazendo o abstract
que seria o resumo em ingles, mais nao tenho muito conhecimento em ingles,
sei que essa lista nao tem esse objetivo porem, caso alguem possa me
ajudar. Agradeço.

Segue o Resumo:

Este trabalho de conclusão de curso tem por objetivo propor um check list
de boas práticas voltadas para configuração de firewalls, com a finalidade
de ajudar qualquer pessoa envolvida com a configuração de firewalls,
realizarem uma configuração confiável e segura. Nesta monografia são
abordados temas que envolvem o firewall desde seu histórico até suas
funcionalidades, incluindo seu funcionamento, tipos e comandos. O desafio
deste trabalho é realizar pesquisas exploratórias sobre as boas práticas
utilizadas na configuração de um firewall, aplicá-las e testar sua eficácia
conforme o que prometem realizar. A metodologia adotada foi a de pesquisas
bibliográficas e testes práticos quando cabíveis.


Se alguem puder perder uns minutinhos e dar uma ajuda, nao tenho ningue que
possa pedir para fazer essa tradução.

Obriagdo desde já.



Att,
Pedro de Almeida

Re: Tradução - Abstract

2011-11-27 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima

Faço esse tipo de trabalho e cobro 25 reais por abstract. Se interessar,
fale comigo em PVT.

Em 27 de novembro de 2011 23:38, pedro almeida almeida.l...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Pessoal,


 Estou fazendo meu trabalho de conclusão de curso, estou fazendo o abstract
 que seria o resumo em ingles, mais nao tenho muito conhecimento em ingles,
 sei que essa lista nao tem esse objetivo porem, caso alguem possa me
 ajudar. Agradeço.

 Segue o Resumo:

 Este trabalho de conclusão de curso tem por objetivo propor um check list
 de boas práticas voltadas para configuração de firewalls, com a finalidade
 de ajudar qualquer pessoa envolvida com a configuração de firewalls,
 realizarem uma configuração confiável e segura. Nesta monografia são
 abordados temas que envolvem o firewall desde seu histórico até suas
 funcionalidades, incluindo seu funcionamento, tipos e comandos. O desafio
 deste trabalho é realizar pesquisas exploratórias sobre as boas práticas
 utilizadas na configuração de um firewall, aplicá-las e testar sua eficácia
 conforme o que prometem realizar. A metodologia adotada foi a de pesquisas
 bibliográficas e testes práticos quando cabíveis.


 Se alguem puder perder uns minutinhos e dar uma ajuda, nao tenho ningue
 que possa pedir para fazer essa tradução.

 Obriagdo desde já.



 Att,
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Re: Resolved: Can't write to external usb drive as normal user despite efforts

2011-11-27 Thread Sven Hoexter

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 04:08:31PM -0800, kei...@strucktower.com wrote:

Hi,

 I still haven't found a good explanation for the umask option- nothing in
 man pages under umask, very little under pam_umask or pam ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask

man 2 umask is in manpages-dev in case that's not installed on your
system currently.

'help umask' and/or the manpage of your shell might be of some help too.

HTH
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KDE activities

With the problems I seem to be having with Gnome3 (not the problem that 
most people have with the shell, which I like - but other applications 
which seem to have become flakey - Gedit crashes on closing a tab, 
Nautilus FTP doesn't seem to work half the time, issues I have been 
discussing here about the applications launched with file associations 
...) I decided to give KDE 4 another try (I had switched to Gnome from 
KDE when KDE 4 was first introduced).


I am struggling with the concepts behind Activities, Desktops, 
Workspaces and Screens.  This is not helped by the fact that I am trying 
to follow the advice from various web pages - but I don't seem to see 
what I should see.


In particular - I use Super Q to bring up the activities manager pane. 
This shows I have two activities both named New Activity.  I should 
then right click on a desktop and select Desktop Settings I should see 
a window with the left pane having three options Wallpaper, Activity 
and Mouse Actions.  Instead I see a window with only two options, 
View and Mouse Actions.


Have I not installed something I should have? or has this changed and 
all these web pages are out of date?



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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze

2011-11-27 Thread Andrei Popescu

On Sb, 26 nov 11, 18:20:59, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 
 I'm not certain, but I THINK that these lines are all referring to
 packages that were removed by the update, but whose config files
 were not purged.  There are 47 such files according to 'dpkg -l |
 grep ^rc' and I recall apt-get saying that there were 43 packages to
 be removed at one point (several others were removed separately) so
 that sounds about right.  Is there a way to purge those config files
 without messing up anything else and without having to do each one
 individually?

aptitude purge ~c

is the simplest, every other solution involves some plumbing with dpkg 
and maybe apt. Recipes have been posted to this list before.

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Re: Nautilus 3.2.1 and file associations


On 26/11/11 21:18, Camaleón wrote:


Anyway, try this:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/82652/file-association-to-unlisted-application

It basically says that you have to append a trailing %U at /usr/share/
applications/freemind.deskop file, at the Exec stanza, that is:

***
Exec=/usr/bin/freemind %U
***

Now the application should be listed at the Open with... menu so you
can now set it as the default for that kind of file types.



Actually it is incomplete - you need to also (or maybe only) edit the 
setting in ~/.local/share/applications/freemind.desktop


Having done that, I have been able to both find the application and make 
it the default.


Thanks for the persistance.  We got there in the end

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Re: Password Management ?

2011-11-27 Thread Olivier BATARD

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 26 nov. 2011 à 18:43, Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 04:21:52PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Olivier BATARD wrote:
 I'm just interested on how, after googling for a long time, on a
 debian, can we manage users's passwords. I mean how can we manage a
 password database on a web php site for example ?

 How do you manage your user's passwords database ?

 You have asked a very confusing question.  It will ask different
 questions to different people.

 Agreed.

Ok my question is about how to manage user's password I mean how to
store user's password and let them access like keepass but web ?


 You asked specifically about a php web site.  Every php web site that
 has user logins that I have ever worked with has always had its own
 unique password database with its own unique fields.  This means that
 each php web site needs to manage its own passwords through the
 provided php web interface.  Or you could access the database directly
 such as through the command line or through phpmyadmin.

 Perhaps the OP means something like Keepass or LastPass which manages user 
 passwords in
 a web browser environment?

Exactly.


 I use LastPass which works fine on GNU/Linux and Google-Chrome and/or 
 Chromium.


Anyone knows an offline tool like lastpass ?

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Re: KDE activities

2011-11-27 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 27/11/11 20:00, Alan Chandler wrote:
 With the problems I seem to be having with Gnome3 (not the problem
 that most people have with the shell, which I like - but other
 applications which seem to have become flakey - Gedit crashes on
 closing a tab, Nautilus FTP doesn't seem to work half the time,
 issues I have been discussing here about the applications launched
 with file associations ...) I decided to give KDE 4 another try (I
 had switched to Gnome from KDE when KDE 4 was first introduced).
 
 I am struggling with the concepts behind Activities, Desktops, 
 Workspaces and Screens.

Have you read the fine documentation in the KDE Help Centre?
$ khelpcenter

You can also access it from the entry on the Programs Menu, or from the
Help menu in any KDE application.
I'd strongly suggest you refer to Debian specific documentation on KDE.


 This is not helped by the fact that I am trying to follow the advice
 from various web pages - but I don't seem to see what I should see.
 
 In particular - I use Super Q

What is Super Q?

 to bring up the activities manager pane.

Are you talking about Desktop Activities?

(many things have activities).

 This shows I have two activities both named New Activity.  I
 should then right click on a desktop and select Desktop Settings I
 should see a window with the left pane having three options
 Wallpaper, Activity and Mouse Actions.

That sounds like a description of the Desktop Activity Manager:-
http://ge.tt/9U7gqQA/v/0

NOTES: Options in the left-hand pane are determined by Activity Type.
In the pictured case the Activity Type is Wallpaper. (the other
Activity Type is Folder View)

 Instead I see a window with only two options, View and Mouse
 Actions.

Perhaps some screen shots and links to them would better illustrate what
you are asking about?

 
 Have I not installed something I should have? or has this changed
 and all these web pages are out of date?

What web pages are you referring to?

Which Debian release are you running?

What is it that you are trying to achieve?


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Brightness after screensaver start - genome 3

2011-11-27 Thread Marcelo Luiz de Laia

After a few time screensaver start and lock my notebook screen. When I
unlosck it, I need to manually set the screen Brightness with Fn + Up
arrow.

In gnome 2 the Brightness was setted automatically after unlock
screen.

What I need to do to get my screen Brightness adjusted automatically
after unlock screen?

I have a Dell Latitude D630 with Debian Testing.

If I choose Fn + Left arrow keys I see a Brightness symbol with a
prohibited symbol!

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Re: KDE activities

2011-11-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Hi Alan!

Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011 schrieb Alan Chandler:
 With the problems I seem to be having with Gnome3 (not the problem that
[…]
 ...) I decided to give KDE 4 another try (I had switched to Gnome from
 KDE when KDE 4 was first introduced).
 
 I am struggling with the concepts behind Activities, Desktops,
 Workspaces and Screens.  This is not helped by the fact that I am
[…]
 In particular - I use Super Q to bring up the activities manager pane.
 This shows I have two activities both named New Activity.  I should
 then right click on a desktop and select Desktop Settings I should
 see a window with the left pane having three options Wallpaper,
 Activity and Mouse Actions.  Instead I see a window with only two
 options, View and Mouse Actions.
 
 Have I not installed something I should have? or has this changed and
 all these web pages are out of date?

You are not alone. Activities are something that have been changed a lot 
during KDE 4 lifetime. I think they first appeared in KDE 4.2 or so and 
have been rather inconsistent there. They gotten way better with KDE 4.6.5 
and even better with the brand new KDE 4.7.2 amd64 packages from 
yesterday¹.

So what KDE version are you using?

I don´t know where you read about the three panes. I only have the two you 
mentioned, but as that, activities have been changed a lot. Maybe that 
source refers to an earlier version of KDE 4.

Its a bit difficult to grasp the concepts and differences between virtual 
desktops versus activies. I found the excellent blog of Chani, who 
develops on KDE activities as well, very help ful in understand 
activities. For example:

{December 26, 2010}   Activity-oriented vs Application-oriented workspaces
http://chani.wordpress.com/

were she describes the differences between GNOME 3 and KDE in that regard 
or her screen casts like

{December 18, 2010}   Activities 4.6 screencast
http://chani.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/activities-4-6-screencast/

or

{January 9, 2011}   Activities in Action 
http://chani.wordpress.com/category/activities/


I also darkly remember a blog entry of her or someone else that explains 
the difference between activities and virtual desktops in a really clear 
way. Lets see whether I find that one. Ok, it might have been that one:

The Rise of Plasma Activities and What it can do for You
http://yuenhoe.com/blog/2011/01/the-rise-of-plasma-activities-and-what-it-
can-do-for-you/

of Jason moofang Lim Yuen Hoe.

Yes, thats it.

I found it through

Activities – A change in workflow?
http://hanschen.org/2011/02/04/activities-a-change-in-workflow/

which also seems to be a good read.

I suggest you, to read these and watch some screencasts by Chani. And when 
there are still questions, ask them then. That said, I am still into 
exploring this new concept myself.

I have several activities:

- communication
  - KMail
  - Kontact
  - Chat stuff
- system administration
  - Konsole
  - Some system meter plasmoids like CPU and free memory
- First use case of myself for rotating plasmoids
- I have them rotated by 90 degrees ;)
- Before I never understand why this could be a useful feature ;)
- photos
  - Quicklinks to Digikam, Gwenview
  - image plasmoids with photos from my gf and other nice photos
- Second use case for rotating plasmoids
- files
  - I am wondering, whether this is too generic of an activity
  - I do lots of stuff with files, maybe I split into different activities
- information
  - Weather plasmoid
  - Comic plasmoid with space picture of the day and some comics
  - Akregator
  - Web browsers like Rekonq, Konqueror, Iceweasel
  - thats to fuzzy as well, maybe at least split into fun and information
  - lets see
- gaming
  - quick links to popular games
  - probably a Konsole for compiling Freedroid RPG from SVN and such

not all of them are started at any time although since switching to my new 
company laptop - an ThinkPad T520 with 8 GB of RAM - this wouldn´t be much 
of a resource problem.

I am still wondering about my activities, the categorization of stuff into 
activities. Especially for files and information which seem to generic to 
me.

[1] http://qt-kde.debian.net/

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Re: reduce crypt partition

2011-11-27 Thread Arno Schuring

scar (s...@drigon.com on 2011-11-25 13:56 -0700):
 i need a little help reducing my crypt partition.  when i first
 installed debian, i used a rather standard /boot on /dev/hda1 and
 crypt on /dev/hda2, using LVM for the rest of the partitions.
[..]
 
 $ sudo fdisk -l
Advice: use fdisk -u. It will allow you to specify partition offsets in
sectors, instead of hoping that your current fdisk aligns partitions at
the exact location that the previous partitioner did.

 
 Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x3f423f42
 
Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/hda1   *   1  31  248976   83  Linux
 /dev/hda2  32486438821072+  83  Linux
[..]
 $ sudo pvdisplay
   --- Physical volume ---
   PV Name   /dev/dm-0
   VG Name   graveyard
   PV Size   20.00 GB / not usable 3.81 MB
   Allocatable   NO
   PE Size (KByte)   4096
   Total PE  5119

sectors/PE = 4096*1024 / 512 = 8192
Total sectors = 5119*8192 = 41934848

I don't know if you need additional space for dmcrypt headers, so I
would advise to use more sectors than this minimum.

As a general rule, I always use resize2fs -M to make sure I don't get
caught in conversion errors (1000 vs 1024 etc). Also, after changing
the partitions you should resize the PV to the real size of the
partition (i.e. without size argument). It's your best way to ensure
everything has gone right.


Best of luck,
Arno


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How can I get GNOME 2 back

2011-11-27 Thread Cam Hutchison

I have tried GNOME 3. I have tried it with fallback mode. I've now tried
xfce, kde and my own hacked together xsession with gnome components.

I don't like any of it.

What I like is the setup I had. I had GNOME 2 set up just the way I
wanted it, and there was nothing wrong with it.

Is there any way to get this back, while still using Debian? I've been
using Debian (sid) a long time and I'm not changing distros.

Are the debian patches for the last of the GNOME 2 releases still
available? Can I build my own packages?



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Re: KDE activities

2011-11-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011 schrieb Alan Chandler:
 With the problems I seem to be having with Gnome3 (not the problem that
 most people have with the shell, which I like - but other applications
 which seem to have become flakey - Gedit crashes on closing a tab,
 Nautilus FTP doesn't seem to work half the time, issues I have been
 discussing here about the applications launched with file associations
 ...) I decided to give KDE 4 another try (I had switched to Gnome from
 KDE when KDE 4 was first introduced).
 
 I am struggling with the concepts behind Activities, Desktops,
 Workspaces and Screens.  This is not helped by the fact that I am
 trying to follow the advice from various web pages - but I don't seem
 to see what I should see.
 
 In particular - I use Super Q to bring up the activities manager pane.
 This shows I have two activities both named New Activity.  I should
 then right click on a desktop and select Desktop Settings I should
 see a window with the left pane having three options Wallpaper,
 Activity and Mouse Actions.  Instead I see a window with only two
 options, View and Mouse Actions.
 
 Have I not installed something I should have? or has this changed and
 all these web pages are out of date?

I found some more:

7 ways to switch activities
http://hanschen.org/2011/05/15/7-ways-to-switch-activities/

Switching via mouse gestures rock ;)

I also installed the Activity Manager plasmoid from source. Locks quite 
nice.


I did not yet try this one

Switch to specific activities with keyboard shortcuts
http://hanschen.org/2011/05/20/switch-to-specific-activities-with-keyboard-
shortcuts/

cause thats a bit cumbersone to configure.


Thats one of the current shortcomings: Better ways to switch between 
activities.

But now lets see what you make out of it. I hope to hear from your 
experiences.

BTW for additional help you might want to ask on debian kde mailing list 
as well.

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Linux 3.1 and r300

2011-11-27 Thread Arno Schuring

Hi all,

Since the upgrade to the 3.1 kernel, I'm seeing display flickers on
two machines with an older ATI card (a 9600 and X1500). One machine is
very vocal about EDID errors and blinks the display roughly every ten
seconds, making it impossible to work with. The other logs no EDID
errors and only blinks once every hour.

I've had this before, and then it was related to load detection which
can be disabled (doesn't appear to work this time):
$ xrandr --output DVI-0 --set load detection 0

The EDID errors can be resolved by killing output polling (drm.poll=0
on the kernel command line).


Before I file a bug, is anyone else seeing this?


Regards,
Arno


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Re: KDE activities


On 27/11/11 10:43, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 27/11/11 20:00, Alan Chandler wrote:

With the problems I seem to be having with Gnome3 (not the problem
that most people have with the shell, which I like - but other
applications which seem to have become flakey - Gedit crashes on
closing a tab, Nautilus FTP doesn't seem to work half the time,
issues I have been discussing here about the applications launched
with file associations ...) I decided to give KDE 4 another try (I
had switched to Gnome from KDE when KDE 4 was first introduced).

I am struggling with the concepts behind Activities, Desktops,
Workspaces and Screens.


Have you read the fine documentation in the KDE Help Centre?
$ khelpcenter

You can also access it from the entry on the Programs Menu, or from the
Help menu in any KDE application.
I'd strongly suggest you refer to Debian specific documentation on KDE.



This is not helped by the fact that I am trying to follow the advice
from various web pages - but I don't seem to see what I should see.

In particular - I use Super Q


What is Super Q?


It is the default KDE Key Combination that brings up the Activity 
Manager - Super is (I think) the KDE word for the Logo key that sits 
between Cntl and Alt






to bring up the activities manager pane.


Are you talking about Desktop Activities?

(many things have activities).


I am talking about Desktop Activities




This shows I have two activities both named New Activity.  I
should then right click on a desktop and select Desktop Settings I
should see a window with the left pane having three options
Wallpaper, Activity and Mouse Actions.


That sounds like a description of the Desktop Activity Manager:-
http://ge.tt/9U7gqQA/v/0

NOTES: Options in the left-hand pane are determined by Activity Type.
In the pictured case the Activity Type is Wallpaper. (the other
Activity Type is Folder View)


That is indeed the screen I was talking about - I think in your notes 
you mean to say that Options in the Right Hand pane ...


What I was saying is I DON'T see WallPaper and Activity in the Left Hand 
pane - instead I see Just View - but with the same options as you show 
in the right hand pane - and Mouse Actions.






Instead I see a window with only two options, View and Mouse
Actions.


Perhaps some screen shots and links to them would better illustrate what
you are asking about?



Unfortunately KDE seems to be particularly unstable - KWin seems to 
crash on me - so I had to switch back to Gnome3 (but its only a log 
out/log in away if I need to)




Have I not installed something I should have? or has this changed
and all these web pages are out of date?


What web pages are you referring to?


Here is one

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17t=90091





Which Debian release are you running?


Sid


This means I am running KDE 4.6.5




What is it that you are trying to achieve?


In order to better understand what the activities were doing I was 
trying to rename them so they both didn't say New Activity





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Re: Linux 3.1 and r300

2011-11-27 Thread Richard

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:17:21 +0100
Arno Schuring aelschur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Since the upgrade to the 3.1 kernel, I'm seeing display flickers on
 two machines with an older ATI card (a 9600 and X1500). One machine is
 very vocal about EDID errors and blinks the display roughly every ten
 seconds, making it impossible to work with. The other logs no EDID
 errors and only blinks once every hour.
 
 I've had this before, and then it was related to load detection which
 can be disabled (doesn't appear to work this time):
 $ xrandr --output DVI-0 --set load detection 0
 
 The EDID errors can be resolved by killing output polling (drm.poll=0
 on the kernel command line).
 
 
 Before I file a bug, is anyone else seeing this?
 
 
 Regards,
 Arno
 
 

Yes I've seen exactly the same , IMO The radeon driver does not work with 
kernel 3.x.x,
and that was with a late card HD4250, das driver ist dekcuf  :)

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Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread Curt

On 2011-11-26, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote:

 That is the reason I encrypt the entire banana rather than trying to
 encrypt the peel.

Makes sense to me (I guess).  I don't need to encrypt anything but my home
directory (certain folders).  I think I could do all I need to do with
ccrypt, but I haven't thus far just because the process makes me
nervous and I lack moral courage.


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Re: KDE activities

2011-11-27 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 27/11/11 23:21, Alan Chandler wrote:
 On 27/11/11 10:43, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 27/11/11 20:00, Alan Chandler wrote:
 With the problems I seem to be having with Gnome3 (not the problem
 that most people have with the shell, which I like - but other
 applications which seem to have become flakey - Gedit crashes on
 closing a tab, Nautilus FTP doesn't seem to work half the time,
 issues I have been discussing here about the applications launched
 with file associations ...) I decided to give KDE 4 another try (I
 had switched to Gnome from KDE when KDE 4 was first introduced).

 I am struggling with the concepts behind Activities, Desktops,
 Workspaces and Screens.

 Have you read the fine documentation in the KDE Help Centre?
 $ khelpcenter

 You can also access it from the entry on the Programs Menu, or from the
 Help menu in any KDE application.
 I'd strongly suggest you refer to Debian specific documentation on KDE.


 This is not helped by the fact that I am trying to follow the advice
 from various web pages - but I don't seem to see what I should see.

 In particular - I use Super Q

 What is Super Q?
 
 It is the default KDE Key Combination that brings up the Activity
 Manager - Super is (I think) the KDE word for the Logo key that sits
 between Cntl and Alt

It doesn't work here

What does work is:-
Alt+D, Alt+S
 
 

 to bring up the activities manager pane.

 Are you talking about Desktop Activities?

 (many things have activities).
 
 I am talking about Desktop Activities

OK.
I normally choose various Virtual Desktops (Desktop Pager on the Panel),
creating more if necessary, and name them according to what I want.
Usually the first one is Private, and the others for various clients (so
Private, and various Works).
Then I create the Activities that use those Virtual Desktops.

There are a number of ways of assigning (and using) Activities.


 

 This shows I have two activities both named New Activity.  I
 should then right click on a desktop and select Desktop Settings I
 should see a window with the left pane having three options
 Wallpaper, Activity and Mouse Actions.

 That sounds like a description of the Desktop Activity Manager:-
 http://ge.tt/9U7gqQA/v/0

 NOTES: Options in the left-hand pane are determined by Activity Type.
 In the pictured case the Activity Type is Wallpaper. (the other
 Activity Type is Folder View)
 
 That is indeed the screen I was talking about - I think in your notes
 you mean to say that Options in the Right Hand pane ...

No, I mean the left-hand pane.
If I were to select the Activity option in the left-hand pane, and then
change the Activity type in the right-hand pane (which changes when
Activity is selected on the left) I'd then be able to change the
activity type to Folder View:-
http://ge.tt/9KsJzQA/v/0

After applying that change - the options in the left-hand pane would
change also.:-
http://ge.tt/9KsJzQA/v/1

NOTE: those folders open and display contents on mouse-over

 
 What I was saying is I DON'T see WallPaper and Activity in the Left Hand
 pane - instead I see Just View - but with the same options as you show
 in the right hand pane - and Mouse Actions.

It may be that you're looking at is the properties of a plasmoid.
Also, if widgets are locked, try unlocking them (or the other way around).

 
 

 Instead I see a window with only two options, View and Mouse
 Actions.

 Perhaps some screen shots and links to them would better illustrate what
 you are asking about?

 
 Unfortunately KDE seems to be particularly unstable - KWin seems to
 crash on me - so I had to switch back to Gnome3 (but its only a log
 out/log in away if I need to)

If you have Desktop Effect enabled in System Settings - try disabling
it. Though your instabilities may just be the result of running Sid (I
have no bleeding edge hardware, so I don't use it).
 

 Have I not installed something I should have? or has this changed
 and all these web pages are out of date?

 What web pages are you referring to?
 
 Here is one
 
 http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17t=90091

That's fairly old (given what you are running). The Debian and Aptosid
posts were relevant - SuSE uses a quite (very) different packaging of KDE.

 
 
 

 Which Debian release are you running?
 
 Sid
 
 
 This means I am running KDE 4.6.5

That makes a big difference.
I only run Squeeze (4.4.5) - so you have features I won't see for a few
years.

 
 

 What is it that you are trying to achieve?
 
 In order to better understand what the activities were doing I was
 trying to rename them so they both didn't say New Activity

Ah. You're going to have fun :-)

Maybe set up a throw-away user just for the purpose of playing/learning
with KDE until you break something (make a config change you don't like
but don't know how to undo).

Activities are great, and there are many ways to arrange them.
I find the type (reading, listening, editing) of activity less useful
than the intent (work, client, private etc) for the

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread J. Bakshi

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:11:14 -0500
Andrew Reid rei...@bellatlantic.net wrote:

   I've had an LVM/luks-encrypted root partition (includes everything 
 except /boot, on various logical volumes) for several years on two
 different Lenovo Thinkpads, and while I've never done any benchmarks,
 I haven't noticed any performance degradation at all.
 
One more question...

Do I need an unencrypted partition to to keep windows (dual boot)
or the grub will take care of it within encrypted volume ?

Thanks


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Re: why does mplayer sound bad and flashplugin-nonfree sound good?

2011-11-27 Thread Curt

On 2011-11-26, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 On Sat 26 Nov 2011 at 18:51:20 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:

 For http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyovCNUDvpUlist=PLDE211ADDDB800FD2
 why when I download it with clive -f best then listen via mplayer, I
 hear crackles like my headphones can't handle the beats.
 Whereas listing with flashplugin-nonfree in Firefox sounds great?

 mplaywer is programmed to process streams with the minimum of musical
 content. This track is probably below the standard. The flashplugin is
 less picky.

I don't understand what you're saying here.


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Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back

2011-11-27 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 11/27/2011 09:04 AM, Cam Hutchison wrote:
 Are the debian patches for the last of the GNOME 2 releases still
 available? Can I build my own packages?

You can find packages here: http://snapshot.debian.org/ But if they are
not uninstallable already because of dependency problems, they soon will be.

The source code is available, for sure. But since it is not maintained
anymore, it will become harder and harder to compile, because libraries
change, stop being supported, etc.

That said, someone mentioned a fork of the old v2 code. I can't remember
the name, check the archives. It might get you some more time with the
old interface.

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Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back

2011-11-27 Thread Claudius Hubig

Cam Hutchison c...@xdna.net wrote:
I have tried GNOME 3. I have tried it with fallback mode. I've now tried
xfce, kde and my own hacked together xsession with gnome components.

I don't like any of it.

What I like is the setup I had. I had GNOME 2 set up just the way I
wanted it, and there was nothing wrong with it.

Is there any way to get this back, while still using Debian? I've been
using Debian (sid) a long time and I'm not changing distros.

Are the debian patches for the last of the GNOME 2 releases still
available? Can I build my own packages?

I had a similar problem when I found out Gnome 3 Nautilus didn’t
behave at all like Nautilus 2 – using snapshot.debian.org, I was able
to reinstall Nautilus 2 (together with Evince and Brasero, I think)
and now I can happily continue using it together with an otherwise
up-to-date XFCE.

I would assume that adding a pre-Gnome-3-Link for snapshot.debian.org
to your sources.list and then manually reinstalling all the necessary
components would do the trick. However, you won’t get any more
patches/updates for it, obviously.

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Re: SATA disc spindown

2011-11-27 Thread Ramon Hofer

Thanks alot for all the infos. Very helpful!
I'll try that this evening :-)


On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:57:03 +0100, Lou wrote:

 Maybe you can choose a solution where you unmount the array before you
 put them to sleep, just to be on the save side? I never used this, since
 I prefer to shutdown a server on inactivity, and wake it up again using
 WOL or acpi wakeup.

I'd like to shut down the server too. But this seemed too complicated for 
a noob like me ;-)
On the server there's a MythBackend, Logitech Media Server, content for 
XBMC and apache. All of them need to be checked so that the server 
doesn't shut when it shouldn't.
It seemed that putting the unused discs to sleep would be easier.

I don't know if I can check whether the raid is in use or not because it 
serves content for XBMC, Logitech Media Server and apache.


Thanks again

Ramon


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Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back

2011-11-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom


Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

On 11/27/2011 09:04 AM, Cam Hutchison wrote:

Are the debian patches for the last of the GNOME 2 releases still
available? Can I build my own packages?


You can find packages here: http://snapshot.debian.org/ But if they are
not uninstallable already because of dependency problems, they soon will be.

The source code is available, for sure. But since it is not maintained
anymore, it will become harder and harder to compile, because libraries
change, stop being supported, etc.

That said, someone mentioned a fork of the old v2 code. I can't remember
the name, check the archives. It might get you some more time with the
old interface.



https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MATE

Hugo


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Re: KDE activities


On 27/11/11 09:00, Alan Chandler wrote:
...

This shows I have two activities both named New Activity. I should
then right click on a desktop and select Desktop Settings I should see
a window with the left pane having three options Wallpaper, Activity
and Mouse Actions. Instead I see a window with only two options,
View and Mouse Actions.

Have I not installed something I should have? or has this changed and
all these web pages are out of date?



I have cracked it.

In later releases of KDE = not sure exactly when, but I think 4.6, the 
activity manager shows each activity with a little wrench in the bottom 
right hand corner.  Click on that, and you can change the name.


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Re: SATA disc spindown

2011-11-27 Thread Ramon Hofer

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:39:16 +0100, Lou wrote:

 On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:14:31 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 
 
 Maybe this is important:
 I use Squeeze, 2.6.32-5-amd64, hdparm v9.32, the drive sdc is a WDC
 WD20EARS-00MVWB0 and the mainboard an ASUS P7P55D.



 It's very good you mention this - the WD Green series is a pain in the
 ass for linux users ... please have a look at the following two postings
 about problems with the green series operating under linux:
 
 http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WD_IntelliPark

Sorry, one more question to the wdidle3:
On the ubuntuusers page and the WD page they write, that it should only 
be used for WD1000FYPS-01ZKB0, WD7500AYPS-01ZKB0 and WD7501AYPS-01ZKB0.
But I have a different drive. So I wondered if they just didn't update 
their homepage and mean all of the Caviar Green series?


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Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread Brad Alexander

What about your /etc/shadow file and other config files in /etc?

As I said, I have been running LUKS + cryptsetup on a number of machines
for years:

my laptop, a C2D P9600 - Built Nov 2010
my desktop, a C2D E4500 - (Re)built 2007
backup server, a 2GHz P4 - (Re)built 2008
etc...

Nothing has failed me in all these years...

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:

 On 2011-11-26, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  That is the reason I encrypt the entire banana rather than trying to
  encrypt the peel.

 Makes sense to me (I guess).  I don't need to encrypt anything but my home
 directory (certain folders).  I think I could do all I need to do with
 ccrypt, but I haven't thus far just because the process makes me
 nervous and I lack moral courage.


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Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread Brad Alexander

You need your windows in an unencrypted partition. At that point, grub
should detect it. You should have at least two unencrypted partitions --
Your windows dual-boot and /boot...And optionally swap, but that would be
separately encrypted.

--b

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:18 AM, J. Bakshi baksh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:11:14 -0500
 Andrew Reid rei...@bellatlantic.net wrote:

I've had an LVM/luks-encrypted root partition (includes everything
  except /boot, on various logical volumes) for several years on two
  different Lenovo Thinkpads, and while I've never done any benchmarks,
  I haven't noticed any performance degradation at all.
 
 One more question...

 Do I need an unencrypted partition to to keep windows (dual boot)
 or the grub will take care of it within encrypted volume ?

 Thanks


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Re: KDE activities

2011-11-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011 schrieb Alan Chandler:
 On 27/11/11 09:00, Alan Chandler wrote:
 ...
 
  This shows I have two activities both named New Activity. I should
  then right click on a desktop and select Desktop Settings I should
  see a window with the left pane having three options Wallpaper,
  Activity and Mouse Actions. Instead I see a window with only two
  options, View and Mouse Actions.
  
  Have I not installed something I should have? or has this changed and
  all these web pages are out of date?
 
 I have cracked it.
 
 In later releases of KDE = not sure exactly when, but I think 4.6, the
 activity manager shows each activity with a little wrench in the bottom
 right hand corner.  Click on that, and you can change the name.

Ah, you wanted to rename an activity. I didn´t get that from your initial 
post. Yes, thats the place I know, too.

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Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread J. Bakshi

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:53:21 -0500
Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote:

 You need your windows in an unencrypted partition. At that point, grub
 should detect it. You should have at least two unencrypted partitions --
 Your windows dual-boot and /boot...And optionally swap, but that would be
 separately encrypted.
 
 --b
 
Ok, thanks
Then I have a separate partition for windows and on the rest create LVM for 
encryption
for linux and swap. /boot will be unencrypted obviously.


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Xfce steals keyboard shortcuts?

2011-11-27 Thread Paul Isambert


Hello,

I've installed gVim with Xfce. My shortcuts made of Ctrl-F1 to Ctrl-F12 
and Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 doesn't work. Instead, they seem to be executed 
for Xfce: I've noticed that because Alt-F2 launches an app in Xfce, and 
that's what happens in gVim too.


So is it possible to give control to all shortcuts to gVim?

Best,
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Re: Resolved: Can't write to external usb drive as normal user despite efforts

2011-11-27 Thread keitho

Thank you Sven-

The wikipedia article was just what I needed :-)

Keith

 On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 04:08:31PM -0800, kei...@strucktower.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I still haven't found a good explanation for the umask option- nothing
 in
 man pages under umask, very little under pam_umask or pam ...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask

 man 2 umask is in manpages-dev in case that's not installed on your
 system currently.

 'help umask' and/or the manpage of your shell might be of some help too.

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Re: Xfce steals keyboard shortcuts?

2011-11-27 Thread Roman Khomasuridze

Hi,

Yes, Xfce does still some shortcuts (never came acroos problems with F1 to
F12). you can define Xfce specific shortcuts in settings - keyboard so
that they wont interfere with yours.

Regards
-
Roman

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Paul Isambert zappathus...@free.fr wrote:

 Hello,

 I've installed gVim with Xfce. My shortcuts made of Ctrl-F1 to Ctrl-F12
 and Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 doesn't work. Instead, they seem to be executed for
 Xfce: I've noticed that because Alt-F2 launches an app in Xfce, and that's
 what happens in gVim too.

 So is it possible to give control to all shortcuts to gVim?

 Best,
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Re: Xfce steals keyboard shortcuts?

2011-11-27 Thread Paul Isambert


Thank you Roman.

Removing Alt-F2 in the shortcut settings did give me some Alt-shortcuts 
back, but Ctrl-shortcuts still won't work, even when I remove everything 
in the settings. Any idea?


Paul

On 27/11/2011 16:41, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:

Hi,

Yes, Xfce does still some shortcuts (never came acroos problems with 
F1 to F12). you can define Xfce specific shortcuts in settings - 
keyboard so that they wont interfere with yours.


Regards
-
Roman

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Paul Isambert zappathus...@free.fr 
mailto:zappathus...@free.fr wrote:


Hello,

I've installed gVim with Xfce. My shortcuts made of Ctrl-F1 to
Ctrl-F12 and Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 doesn't work. Instead, they seem to
be executed for Xfce: I've noticed that because Alt-F2 launches an
app in Xfce, and that's what happens in gVim too.

So is it possible to give control to all shortcuts to gVim?

Best,
Paul


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Re: SATA disc spindown

2011-11-27 Thread Lou


Hello Ramon,

Please check the wdc link [1] I gave you again, WD20EARS is on the list. 
The wiki article can't keep up all the time with newer green series 
coming out.


[1] http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5357

Regards

Lou

Ramon Hofer wrote:


Sorry, one more question to the wdidle3:
On the ubuntuusers page and the WD page they write, that it should only
be used for WD1000FYPS-01ZKB0, WD7500AYPS-01ZKB0 and WD7501AYPS-01ZKB0.
But I have a different drive. So I wondered if they just didn't update
their homepage and mean all of the Caviar Green series?




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Re: gksu: Couldn't set environment variable...

2011-11-27 Thread Bob Proulx

Nigel W wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  Raf Czlonka wrote:
  Sthu hadn't mentioned even once that he tries to run those as root.
 
  Uhm...  What?  But he did!  You must have missed that he said he
  wanted to run them from gksu.  If you are not familiar with it that is
  the entire purpose of gksu.  From the gksu man page:
 
gksu  is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo.  Their pri-
mary purpose is to run graphical commands that need  root  without  the
need to run an X terminal emulator and using su directly.
 
  Therefore, yes, he did say he wanted to run those as root.  :-) :-)
 
 That is a huge assumption.  Both su and sudo are used to switch
 users.  Yes, the primary user that gets switched to is root, but
 that doesn't mean it is the only user that someone would switch to
 using su or sudo.
 
 I assume gksu and gksudo both have the same ability as su and sudo.
 According the man page that I found for gksu and gksudo they both
 support same options (-u) but all of my linux systems are headless so
 I can't actually test it.

Okay.  You have caught me!  I had jumped to the conclusion that gksu
would be used to run the chromium browser as root.  I had not
considered that it would be used to run it directly as another user.

Bob


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Re: Resolved: Can't write to external usb drive as normal user despite efforts

2011-11-27 Thread Brian

On Sat 26 Nov 2011 at 16:07:20 -0800, kei...@strucktower.com wrote:

 Thanks to Camaleon, John Lindsay, and Chris Brennan for responding.
 
 This statement put into my /etc/fstab seems to have worked, and auto mount
 as well:
 
 UUID=9419-5112/usbvfatuid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,umask= 0 0
 
 The UUID is obtained via blkid, the uid and gid are for my keith account.

I'd be dissatisfied with myself if I to do this in order to write to a
removable device. The device would only be available to one user, which
may be what you want, but it seems a bit drastic to limit the system use
in such a way. Granted you can replace 'uid=' etc with 'user', but in
that case you had better have 'noauto' there too. And don't repartition
too often, otherwise you will wear out the fstab file.

For every USB stick plugged in you'll be becoming root, getting a UUID
for each partition and editing fstab. It won't make a good impression on
visitors who only want to show you the 10,000 photographs they took on a
recent holiday - especially if the procedure doesn't immediately come to
mind!

You were unable to write to the drive because a partition had been
mounted as root. The usual Debian way of dealing with that situation is
to give users permission to mount removable devices by putting them in
the plugdev group. It's a bit more involved with GNOME+gdm/gdm3 but the
process is hidden from view and designed to be handled automatically.


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installer fails to configure DHCP

2011-11-27 Thread Francesco Pietra

Installer debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso downloaded Nov27 2011 fails
to configure DHCP either automatically, with hostname, or manually.
Otherwise, the Realtek card works perfectly on this machine (I just
wanted to reinstall in order to reshape  partitions). Then, I noticed
that this is a standing bug:

The sole chance I am given for my LVM is to shrink /home to provide
space for /usr, whici is short of space. Not an alluring project, as
if it fails I am without OS.

Debian Bug report logs - #520285
installation-reports: The squeeze netinst dosn't configure DHCP

Package: debian-installer; Maintainer for debian-installer is Debian
Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org; Source for
debian-installer is src:debian-installer.

Reported by: Alexander V.Inyakin alexandre.inya...@cern.ch

Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:54:01 UTC

francesco pietra


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Re: gksu: Couldn't set environment variable...

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:00:13 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  Sthu Deus wrote:
  I can not run two applications w/ gksu:
  
  chromium and
  qbittorrent
  
  Why do you want to run those applications as root?  You should not do
  this.  Neither of those applications are designed for being run as
  root.
   Those should be run as a normal non-root user.
 
 (...)
 
 Just a comment on this.
 
 There are situations that require you to run GUI based apps as root.
 
 Sure.  For example Synaptic is in that category.  Synaptic is a GUI and
 requires root and is designed to be run as root.  A perfect match for
 gksu (or apparently the new policy kit layer) and no complaints from me
 about it.  (I don't use Synaptic myself however.)

That's a good example. So let's no demonize per se that someone runs a 
GUI based application as root. Different user-cases, programs and 
situations do need it.

 For instance, I have to run Firefox/Thunderbird with admin priviledges
 in order to get them updated because they were installed system wide
 and plain users do not have the rights to run the upgrade routine and
 apply the delta patches.
 
 That is a much different case.  You *have already* run it as root in
 order to install it that way and then are wanting to use the embedded
 software update mechanism to upgrade it.  I disagree with it.  But I can
 certainly respect you doing it that way for your system.

(...)

I *had* to do it. Icedove (at least, it is not clear if Iceweasel did it 
also) dropped security patches for Lenny months ago (see DSA-2273) so I 
had no chance but going to the upstream packages ;-(

And I preferred to have it installed both applications system wide so 
others users can benefit from it without having to have the binaries 
replicated in every /home.

 Also, running an application as root is usually the fastest way to
 debug configurations issues with your current user.
 
 But if you are root then you can easily become the user you are wishing
 to debug.  Then running as that user should enable you to debug that
 user issue.  And running as root can create new problems that confounds
 the problem.  And running those third person programs as root opens you
 up to social engineering attacks against root.  If they are good then
 you will never know you were cracked.

(...)

That's not the case for the kind of problems I am talking about which are 
by far more simple that you think ;-). 

For instance, one time I messed up my user's Firefox profile so badly 
that tool bars dissapeared. By launching it with gksu I could see that 
this was not happening for the root's Firefox profile (that was almost 
empty because it is not used) so by making a deep inspection of my user's 
profile I finally discovered the problem was generated because some files 
had bad perms. Restoring them solved the issue.

What I want to say is that there is no problem for running GUI (or non-
GUI) applications as root if you now what you are doing. I always avoid 
saying users hey, do not do that! but instead explain to them the 
reasons (risks) for such action so they can decide with confidence and 
not based on unfounded tales.

Greetings,

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Re: Resolved: Can't write to external usb drive as normal user despite efforts

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:07:20 -0800, keitho wrote:

 Thanks to Camaleon, John Lindsay, and Chris Brennan for responding.
 
 This statement put into my /etc/fstab seems to have worked, and auto
 mount as well:
 
 UUID=9419-5112/usbvfatuid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,umask= 0 0
 
 The UUID is obtained via blkid, the uid and gid are for my keith
 account.

It is *much better* to use the UUID than the mutable /dev/sdx :-)

 I still haven't found a good explanation for the umask option- nothing
 in man pages under umask, very little under pam_umask or pam ...

man mount and scroll to vfat, there are many options you can tweak 
(umask, dmask, fmask). A value of umask= will set the perms of the 
USB files to read/write/execute for user/group/others. You can, of 
course, adjust this value to something that better suits your needs.

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Re: Nautilus 3.2.1 and file associations

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:43:15 +, Alan Chandler wrote:

 On 26/11/11 21:18, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Anyway, try this:

 http://askubuntu.com/questions/82652/file-association-to-unlisted-application

 It basically says that you have to append a trailing %U at
 /usr/share/ applications/freemind.deskop file, at the Exec stanza,
 that is:

 ***
 Exec=/usr/bin/freemind %U
 ***

 Now the application should be listed at the Open with... menu so you
 can now set it as the default for that kind of file types.


 Actually it is incomplete - you need to also (or maybe only) edit the
 setting in ~/.local/share/applications/freemind.desktop

Hum... It worked for me by just editing the suggested file (and I even 
don't have Freemind installed at all).

 Having done that, I have been able to both find the application and make
 it the default.
 
 Thanks for the persistance.  We got there in the end

Well, great...

It's that kind of weird things that are not easy to get figured with an 
extra help.

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Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back