Neteja d'spam juny 2012
Hola, Com que ja estem a juliol, ja es poden processar tots el correu brossa del juny del 2012. Recordeu que la lluita contra l'spam a les llistes en català la coordinem aquí: http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/CatalanSpamClean Mònica -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1341273126.15757.47.camel@celpetit
Re: Neteja d'spam juny 2012
El 3 de juliol de 2012 1:52, Mònica Ramírez mon...@probeta.net ha escrit: Hola, Com que ja estem a juliol, ja es poden processar tots el correu brossa del juny del 2012. Recordeu que la lluita contra l'spam a les llistes en català la coordinem aquí: http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/CatalanSpamClean +1 per a la feina de formigueta :) Mònica -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1341273126.15757.47.camel@celpetit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMFaAL3zFurS5yCDahzid8YQbA7xWBiu6afFyngzyRÕfx...@mail.gmail.com
nvidia, flash, fullscreen
Depuis quelques jours (je n'utilise pas super souvent cette fonctionnalité, donc je suis bien mal pour pouvoir la dater), je n'ai plus de plein écran quand je regarde une vidéo sur youtube ou vimeo. J'utilise des versions à jour de chrome, de flash (même si je crois que chrome embarque son propre flash), et des drivers nvidia. Est-ce que je suis le seul ? -- Jean-Christophe Dubacq signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Mise à jour cassée en SID
Bonjour, Depuis vendredi, je ne peux plus faire de mises à jour de ma debian ni installert de paquets. Je bloque sur l'erreur: E: Internal Error, No file name for libtinfo5 J'ai eu beau googler et essayé toutes les combinaisons de apt-get et aptitude, rien n'y fait. Le contenu de mon /etc/apt/source.list: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free #depot marillat deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free Quelqu'un a t-il une solution à ce problème oh combien épineux? Merci à tous! Pascal
Re: nvidia, flash, fullscreen
Le 02/07/2012 10:21, Jean-Christophe Dubacq a écrit : Depuis quelques jours (je n'utilise pas super souvent cette fonctionnalité, donc je suis bien mal pour pouvoir la dater), je n'ai plus de plein écran quand je regarde une vidéo sur youtube ou vimeo. J'utilise des versions à jour de chrome, de flash (même si je crois que chrome embarque son propre flash), et des drivers nvidia. Est-ce que je suis le seul ? non, j'ai constaté la même chose. Pas de problème en revanche sous iceweasel. Guy -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff16b20.4080...@teledetection.fr
Re: nvidia, flash, fullscreen
On 02/07/2012 11:34, Guy Roussin wrote: Le 02/07/2012 10:21, Jean-Christophe Dubacq a écrit : Depuis quelques jours (je n'utilise pas super souvent cette fonctionnalité, donc je suis bien mal pour pouvoir la dater), je n'ai plus de plein écran quand je regarde une vidéo sur youtube ou vimeo. J'utilise des versions à jour de chrome, de flash (même si je crois que chrome embarque son propre flash), et des drivers nvidia. Est-ce que je suis le seul ? non, j'ai constaté la même chose. Pas de problème en revanche sous iceweasel. Guy Donc ça serait probablement un problème de la version de chrome. Pas de problème, je me sers rarement du flash plein écran, et quelqu'un finira par le réparer... -- Jean-Christophe Dubacq signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Mise à jour cassée en SID
Salut, Je suis en Sid AMD64 sans pb. Une idée sans garantie, Faire un dpkg -l|grep libtinfo Dans mon cas : ii libtinfo5:amd64 5.9-10 amd64shared low-level terminfo library for terminal handling Si tu as celà : essaye de télécharger le libtinfo5.deb et de le réinstaller par un dpkg -i. Peut t'être que tu ne peux rien faire de ce que je te le suggères, Là je ne sais pas t'aider. A d'autre de prendre le relai. Le lundi 2 juillet 2012 11:04:11, Pascal Ognibene a écrit : Depuis vendredi, je ne peux plus faire de mises à jour de ma debian ni installert de paquets. Je bloque sur l'erreur: E: Internal Error, No file name for libtinfo5 Philippe MERLIN -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201207021409.52699.phil.mer...@free.fr
[HS]Problème de multicast curieux.
Bonjour, Pour des besoins de système autoconfigurable, j'ai fait un paquet compsé de deux programmes: * coucou -a IP -p N message diffuse en continue et en multicast sur l'adresse IP et le port N le message message, par exemple coucou -a 225.0.0.37 -p 2012 10.0.1.92 envoie en continue l'adresse 10.0.1.92 sur l'adresse multicast 225.0.0.37 (2012), ce qui est confirmé par tcpdump. * ecoute -a 225.0.0.37 -p 2012 fait l'opération inverse en écoutant sur cette adresse. Exemple $ ecoute -a 225.0.0.37 -p 2012 10.0.1.92 $ Bon. Le problèe est le suivant, le réseau sur lequel je travaille est un réseau 10.0.0.0/8 (ainsi le serveur a comme adresse eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:6c:56:9c:33 inet adr:10.0.1.92 Bcast:10.255.255.255 Masque:255.0.0.0 mais du fait d'utilisateurs négligents, certaines IP attribuées par le DHCP sont mis également en dur sur des machines (imprimantes par exemple). Bref, sur mes machines qui s'autoconfigurent (pour se mettre sur un VPN, mais c'est un autre pbm), j'ai fait un script qui en cas de coupure réseau, leur donne une IP statique (10.210.0.???N sur le même réseau). Depuis je n'ai plus aucun souci de connexion (la plage choisie est vide), mais ce que je comprends pas c'est que $ ecoute -a 225.0.0.37 -p 2012 ne renvoit strictement rien sur une machine lorsque l'IP a été forcée. En clair, avec l'IP attribuée par le DHCP, ecoute -a 225.0.0.37 -p 2012 renvoit bien 10.0.1.92, dès que l'IP est mise à 10.210.0.56 (mettons), toutes les connexions réseaux se passent très bien, le VPN fonctionne, etc MAIS $ ecoute -a 225.0.0.37 -p 2012 ne renvoit plus rien. Un tcpdump montre les lignes 17:51:41.912675 IP 10.0.1.92.50934 225.0.0.37.2012: UDP, length 9 mais le programme ne les capture plus. En fait ecoute fonctionne à tous les coups sur des machines ayant des IPs 10.0.1.??, sur la plupart des machines ayant des IPs donnés par DHCP en 10.0.0.?? et sur aucune des machines sur 10.210.0.???. Ce phénomène est réversible, forcer une IP en 10.0.1.?? refait marcher le programme ecoute. Je ne comprends pas la différence de comportement, Si quelqu'un a une explication, je suis preneur. François Boisson PS: Ces programmes se trouvent dans le paquet coucou dont les sources sont sur deb-src http://boisson.homeip.net/sources/ ./ deb http://boisson.homeip.net/debian/ squeeze divers (ou wheezy) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702183011.da813791944a926f28451...@maison.homelinux.net
SoulseekQt dans debian squeeze
Bonjour à tous, Je suis sous squeeze et j'utilise le réseau p2p soulseek avec Nicotine. Mais depuis quelque temps je n'ai presque plus de résultats dans mes recherches car ce client ne peux pas communiquer avec le nouveau client en développement SoulseekQt, sur lequel tout le monde migre. J'aimerais donc installer ce client mais malheureusement, il utilise une version de Qt4 trop récente (http://www.slsknet.org/news/node/76). j'obtiens cet erreur au lancement: $ ./SoulseekQt-6-4-2012 ./SoulseekQt-6-4-2012: symbol lookup error: ./SoulseekQt-6-4-2012: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii Sur le forum de SoulseekQt, il conseille d'installer Qt4 depuis l'installer en ligne mais cela ne m'enchante guère, je préférerais une version de debian.J'essaye d'installer Qt4 à partir de Testing: $ ldd SoulseekQt-6-4-2012 linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb7733000) libQtGui.so.4 = /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0xb6c75000) libQtNetwork.so.4 = /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4 (0xb6b49000) libQtCore.so.4 = /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0xb68c4000) ... $ sudo apt-get -t testing install libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-core Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait Construction de l'arbre des dépendances Lecture des informations d'état... Fait Certains paquets ne peuvent être installés. Ceci peut signifier que vous avez demandé l'impossible, ou bien, si vous utilisez la distribution unstable, que certains paquets n'ont pas encore été créés ou ne sont pas sortis d'Incoming. L'information suivante devrait vous aider à résoudre la situation : Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : initscripts : Casse: nfs-common ( 1:1.2.5-3) mais 1:1.2.2-4squeeze2 devra être installé libglib2.0-0 : Casse: eog ( 3.2.2-3) mais 2.30.2-1 devra être installé Casse: gnome-control-center ( 1:3) mais 1:2.30.1-2 devra être installé libgnome-keyring0 : Casse: gnome-keyring ( 3.0) mais 2.30.3-5 devra être installé libva1 : Casse: vlc-nox ( 1.1.5-3) mais 1.1.3-1squeeze6 devra être installé network-manager : Recommande: crda mais ne sera pas installé Casse: network-manager-gnome ( 0.9) mais 0.8.1-2 devra être installé E: Paquets défectueux $ sudo apt-get -t testing install nfs-common eog gnome-control-center gnome-keyring vlc-nox network-manager-gnome Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait Construction de l'arbre des dépendances Lecture des informations d'état... Fait Certains paquets ne peuvent être installés. Ceci peut signifier que vous avez demandé l'impossible, ou bien, si vous utilisez la distribution unstable, que certains paquets n'ont pas encore été créés ou ne sont pas sortis d'Incoming. L'information suivante devrait vous aider à résoudre la situation : Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : python-apt : Recommande: xz-lzma mais ne sera pas installé Casse: python-software-properties ( 0.70.debian-1+) mais 0.60.debian-3 devra être installé Casse: update-notifier ( 0.99.3debian9) mais 0.99.3debian8 devra être installé E: Paquets défectueux Si je continue, apt me propose d'installer une très grande liste de paquets donc j'abandonne et j'essaye de compiler un paquet backport: Code: $ sudo apt-get build-dep libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-core Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait Construction de l'arbre des dépendances Lecture des informations d'état... Fait Choix de « qt4-x11 » comme paquet source à la place de « libqt4-gui » E: La dépendance Build-Depends vis-à-vis de qt4-x11 ne peut être satisfaite car aucune version du paquet debhelper ne peut satisfaire à la version requise Et là je suis coincé. il y a-t-il un moyen d'installer une version de Qt4 plus récente sous squeeze ? J'aimerais rester sous stable car j'aime bien sa tranquillité. Merci de vos réponses. -- Charles VIROT charles.vi...@gmail.com Debian Squeeze kernel: 2.6.32-5-686 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1341258079.4069.11.ca...@homer.numericable.fr
Re: LibreOffice reconoce mal el teclado
Gracias por la ayuda. Intentaré seguir tus sugerencias. recién actualicé el sistema y recibí, una vez más, mensajes de error sobre los LOCALE. ¿tendrá eso algo qué ver? Mando el resumen: -- Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/apt-listchanges, line 33, in module from ALChacks import * File /usr/share/apt-listchanges/ALChacks.py, line 32, in module sys.stderr.write(_(Can't set locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct!\n)) NameError: name '_' is not defined perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LC_TIME = es_AR.utf8, LC_MONETARY = es_AR.utf8, LC_NUMERIC = es_AR.utf8, LANG = es_ES.utf8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 97, line 25. Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 103, line 25. (Reading database ... 285244 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace dconf-service 0.12.1-1 (using .../dconf-service_0.12.1-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dconf-service ... Preparing to replace libdconf0:amd64 0.12.1-1 (using .../libdconf0_0.12.1-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdconf0:amd64 ... Preparing to replace dconf-gsettings-backend:amd64 0.12.1-1 (using .../dconf-gsettings-backend_0.12.1-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dconf-gsettings-backend:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libdrm2:amd64 2.4.33-1 (using .../libdrm2_2.4.33-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdrm2:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libdrm-intel1:amd64 2.4.33-1 (using .../libdrm-intel1_2.4.33-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdrm-intel1:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libdrm-nouveau1a:amd64 2.4.33-1 (using .../libdrm-nouveau1a_2.4.33-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdrm-nouveau1a:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libdrm-radeon1:amd64 2.4.33-1 (using .../libdrm-radeon1_2.4.33-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdrm-radeon1:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libpoppler19:amd64 0.18.4-2 (using .../libpoppler19_0.18.4-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libpoppler19:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libpoppler-glib8:amd64 0.18.4-2 (using .../libpoppler-glib8_0.18.4-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libpoppler-glib8:amd64 ... Preparing to replace icedtea-6-jre-cacao:amd64 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../icedtea-6-jre-cacao_6b24-1.11.3-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement icedtea-6-jre-cacao:amd64 ... Preparing to replace openjdk-6-jre:amd64 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../openjdk-6-jre_6b24-1.11.3-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement openjdk-6-jre:amd64 ... Preparing to replace icedtea-6-jre-jamvm:amd64 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../icedtea-6-jre-jamvm_6b24-1.11.3-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement icedtea-6-jre-jamvm:amd64 ... Preparing to replace openjdk-6-jre-headless:amd64 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.3-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement openjdk-6-jre-headless:amd64 ... Preparing to replace openjdk-6-jre-lib 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../openjdk-6-jre-lib_6b24-1.11.3-2_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement openjdk-6-jre-lib ... Preparing to replace iproute 20120521-2 (using .../iproute_20120521-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement iproute ... Preparing to replace libcwidget3 0.5.16-3.3 (using .../libcwidget3_0.5.16-3.4_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libcwidget3 ... Preparing to replace libept1.4.12 1.0.6.1 (using .../libept1.4.12_1.0.9_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libept1.4.12 ... Preparing to replace acpi-fakekey 0.140-3 (using .../acpi-fakekey_0.140-4_amd64.deb) ... [ ok ] Stopping acpi_fakekey daemon...done. Unpacking replacement acpi-fakekey ... Preparing to replace acpi-support-base 0.140-3 (using .../acpi-support-base_0.140-4_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement acpi-support-base ... Preparing to replace acpi-support 0.140-3 (using .../acpi-support_0.140-4_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement acpi-support ... Preparing to replace dconf-tools 0.12.1-1 (using .../dconf-tools_0.12.1-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dconf-tools ... - ¿Agrega esto alguna información relevante? Saludos, Mordi El día 2 de julio de 2012 01:36, Martin Edmundo Barriga Orozco martin_edmu...@hotmail.com escribió: Hola, Mira a mi parecer en el lado de los horarios debes revisar 3 cosas: 1. Archivo /etc/localtimeEste es un enlace simbolico a algun otro archivo en el
como instalar compiz en whezzy
Hola tengo una duda acerca de como instalar compiz fusion en debian whezzy ya que no la tengo en lo repositorios, alguien podria decirme como. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1f04a0eda8c6e3735b546788c3b28e99.squir...@fulvetta.riseup.net
Re: como instalar compiz en whezzy
gnh...@riseup.net writes: Hola tengo una duda acerca de como instalar compiz fusion en debian whezzy ya que no la tengo en lo repositorios, alguien podria decirme como. Ese paquete aún no está en Wheezy por problemas de migración: http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=compiz Prueba instalarlo desde sid o squeeze. No es tan trivial como puede aparecer a primera vista. Lee algo sobre APT pinning y la página de manual de apt_preferences. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762a6mi1z@tochka.ru
Re: como instalar compiz en whezzy
El Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:03:20 +0400, Evgeny M. Zubok escribió: gnh...@riseup.net writes: Hola tengo una duda acerca de como instalar compiz fusion en debian whezzy ya que no la tengo en lo repositorios, alguien podria decirme como. Ese paquete aún no está en Wheezy por problemas de migración: http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=compiz Prueba instalarlo desde sid o squeeze. No es tan trivial como puede aparecer a primera vista. Lee algo sobre APT pinning y la página de manual de apt_preferences. Buf, pues wheezy ya está congelada... ¿podrán incluir compiz antes de que salga? :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jss8id$4gd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Carrera de Desarrollo Web - 1341236337
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org El Club de Programado*res- Asociación Civil, invita a participar del curso 'Carrera de Desarrollo Web' que se dictará los días Martes de 18 a 20 hs a partir del 10 de julio de 2012, en Laboratorio Congreso, Entre Ríos 166 piso 14 1- Temario a desarrollar 2- Datos del instructor 3- Fechas, lugar y horario 4- Material a entregar, costo y certificado 5- Informes e inscripción No responda a este mail, para información e inscripción comuniquese a clubdepr ogramad ores_arroba_fibertel punto com punto ar Si desea ser eliminado de esta lista de distribución, responda este mensaje colocando 'REMOVER' en el motivo (subject). Volcando su vasta experiencia en capacitación tecnológica, el Club de Programadores desarrolló íntegramente una carrera destinada a satisfacer la creciente demanda laboral en sectores de sistemas de información. Desde el comienzo de la carrera prevalece una clara orientación laboral, mediante clases teórico-prácticas en las que se impulsará constantemente el desarrollo personal y profesional mediante ejercitación constante. http://www.club de programado*res.com/contenidos/CarreraDesarrolloWeb.pdf. Descargar presentación oficial de la carrera con toda la información académica. Objetivos: En las clases se reconocen módulos teóricos y tareas prácticas participativas, incentivando a que el grupo se encargué de la creación de una aplicación Web en PHP desde el comienzo. Para ello, tanto profesores altamente capacitados como personal dedicado a tutorías en clase servirán como apoyo en el crecimiento del alumno y del proyecto grupal. Para aprobar la carrera, será necesario cumplir en forma satisfactoria áreas como análisis, diseño de la aplicación e interfaz de usuarios, diseño de la base de datos, técnica de programación, entre otras y, por supuesto, hacer una aplicación Web que funcione en forma correcta. Requisitos: Ser usuario de PC, manejo de Office e Internet y ganas de orientarse a programación Web Modalidad: Clases teórico-prácticas. El alumno está constantemente frente a una PC para aplicar los conceptos aprendidos. Máximo dos alumnos por PC. 1- Temario a desarrollar * Módulo de HTML - Qué es el desarrollo web. - Elementos necesarios. - Ejemplos. - Estructura de un documento. - Etiquetas llenas y vacías. - Formateo de textos. - Inclusión de imágenes y videos. - Enlaces y marcadores. - Listas y tablas. - Manejo de formularios. - Integración de CSS en un documento web. - Selectores, agrupamiento. - Integración de Javascript en un documento web. - Sintaxis de Javascript. Variables y condicionales. - Ciclos. Arreglos. * Módulo de programación en PHP - Introducción a PHP. - Elementos necesarios. - Servidores. - Sintaxis básica. - Tipos de variables. - Operadores. - Arreglos. - Estructuras condicionales. - Manejo de formularios. - Estructuras cíclicas. - Funciones. - Modularización. - Manejo de archivos. - Cookies y variables de sesión. - Envio de mails. * Modulo de base de datos con MySQL - Presentación de MySQL. - Instalación, puertos y servicios. - Uso de HeidiSQL. - Estructura de tablas. - Manipulación de registros. * Sitios dinámicos con PHP y MySQL - Conexión desde PHP a MySQL. - Módulos de registro para alta de datos. - Modulo de baja de datos. - Modulo de modificación de datos. - Consulta de registros. - Análisis de casos prácticos: -- Encuestas -- Buscador de resultados -- Páginación -- Logueo y registro de usuarios. -- Subida de archivos. * PHP Avanzado - Introducción a la programación orientada a objetos. - Encapsulamiento. - Clases, métodos y atributos. - Herencia. - Miembros pùblicos, privados y protegidos. - Aplicaciones prácticas. 2. Sobre el instructor : Sergio Rodriguez Analista de sistemas. Microsoft Certified Solution Developer. Certified Java Developer Amplia experiencia en analisis y desarrollos de sitios web. Consultor externo en varias empresas. Más de 25 años en la docencia de sistemas. Twitter: www.twitter.com/sergiorodweb 3- Fechas, lugar y horario Carrera de Desarrollo Web Fecha de inicio : 10 de julio de 2012 Cantidad de horas : 80 horas, en cuarenta clases de dos horas. Horario : Martes de 18 a 20 hs Lugar : Laboratorio Congreso (Entre Ríos 166 piso 14) CABA - Buenos Aires - Argentina 4- Material a entregar, costo y certificado Material a entregar: Se entrega un CD con documentación, ejercicios prácticos, y software. ARANCEL : Una matrícula de $350. Diez cuotas mensuales de $450. SE ENTREGA CERTIFICADO
Re: como instalar compiz en whezzy
Hola gente... On 02/07/12 10:43, Camaleón wrote: El Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:03:20 +0400, Evgeny M. Zubok escribió: gnh...@riseup.net writes: Hola tengo una duda acerca de como instalar compiz fusion en debian whezzy ya que no la tengo en lo repositorios, alguien podria decirme como. Ese paquete aún no está en Wheezy por problemas de migración: http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=compiz Prueba instalarlo desde sid o squeeze. No es tan trivial como puede aparecer a primera vista. Lee algo sobre APT pinning y la página de manual de apt_preferences. Buf, pues wheezy ya está congelada... ¿podrán incluir compiz antes de que salga? :-? Si no les disgusta KDE, éste tiene varios efectos que sólo hay que habilitar: cubo, ventanitas gelatinosas y varios más. Saludos, Igualmente, Walter http;//swcomputacion.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1b02c.3010...@gmail.com
RE: LibreOffice reconoce mal el teclado
Si, estandariza todo, veo que alguna información te dice es_AR.utf8 es_ES.utf8 Tu deberías conocer que región y datos tienes, revisa el manual si alguien tiene mas ideas que nos ayuden :) Saludos desde Mexico. Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:00:37 +0200 Subject: Re: LibreOffice reconoce mal el teclado From: fernandomo...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Gracias por la ayuda. Intentaré seguir tus sugerencias. recién actualicé el sistema y recibí, una vez más, mensajes de error sobre los LOCALE. ¿tendrá eso algo qué ver? Mando el resumen: -- Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/apt-listchanges, line 33, in module from ALChacks import * File /usr/share/apt-listchanges/ALChacks.py, line 32, in module sys.stderr.write(_(Can't set locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct!\n)) NameError: name '_' is not defined perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LC_TIME = es_AR.utf8, LC_MONETARY = es_AR.utf8, LC_NUMERIC = es_AR.utf8, LANG = es_ES.utf8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 97, line 25. Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 103, line 25. (Reading database ... 285244 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace dconf-service 0.12.1-1 (using .../dconf-service_0.12.1-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dconf-service ... Preparing to replace libdconf0:amd64 0.12.1-1 (using .../libdconf0_0.12.1-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdconf0:amd64 ... Preparing to replace dconf-gsettings-backend:amd64 0.12.1-1 (using .../dconf-gsettings-backend_0.12.1-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dconf-gsettings-backend:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libdrm2:amd64 2.4.33-1 (using .../libdrm2_2.4.33-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdrm2:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libdrm-intel1:amd64 2.4.33-1 (using .../libdrm-intel1_2.4.33-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdrm-intel1:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libdrm-nouveau1a:amd64 2.4.33-1 (using .../libdrm-nouveau1a_2.4.33-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdrm-nouveau1a:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libdrm-radeon1:amd64 2.4.33-1 (using .../libdrm-radeon1_2.4.33-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdrm-radeon1:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libpoppler19:amd64 0.18.4-2 (using .../libpoppler19_0.18.4-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libpoppler19:amd64 ... Preparing to replace libpoppler-glib8:amd64 0.18.4-2 (using .../libpoppler-glib8_0.18.4-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libpoppler-glib8:amd64 ... Preparing to replace icedtea-6-jre-cacao:amd64 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../icedtea-6-jre-cacao_6b24-1.11.3-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement icedtea-6-jre-cacao:amd64 ... Preparing to replace openjdk-6-jre:amd64 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../openjdk-6-jre_6b24-1.11.3-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement openjdk-6-jre:amd64 ... Preparing to replace icedtea-6-jre-jamvm:amd64 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../icedtea-6-jre-jamvm_6b24-1.11.3-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement icedtea-6-jre-jamvm:amd64 ... Preparing to replace openjdk-6-jre-headless:amd64 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.3-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement openjdk-6-jre-headless:amd64 ... Preparing to replace openjdk-6-jre-lib 6b24-1.11.1-6 (using .../openjdk-6-jre-lib_6b24-1.11.3-2_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement openjdk-6-jre-lib ... Preparing to replace iproute 20120521-2 (using .../iproute_20120521-3_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement iproute ... Preparing to replace libcwidget3 0.5.16-3.3 (using .../libcwidget3_0.5.16-3.4_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libcwidget3 ... Preparing to replace libept1.4.12 1.0.6.1 (using .../libept1.4.12_1.0.9_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libept1.4.12 ... Preparing to replace acpi-fakekey 0.140-3 (using .../acpi-fakekey_0.140-4_amd64.deb) ... [ ok ] Stopping acpi_fakekey daemon...done. Unpacking replacement acpi-fakekey ... Preparing to replace acpi-support-base 0.140-3 (using .../acpi-support-base_0.140-4_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement acpi-support-base ... Preparing to replace acpi-support 0.140-3 (using .../acpi-support_0.140-4_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement acpi-support ... Preparing to replace dconf-tools 0.12.1-1 (using .../dconf-tools_0.12.1-2_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking
Re: correcta forma de configurar la tarjeta de video nvidia Geforce4 MX 4000 128mb en debian 6
Gazapo mío, hay debe poner xrandr -q resultado Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.0* 800x60060.3 56.2 848x48060.0 640x48059.9 TV-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Adding_undetected_resolutions saludos Constantino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagbsza-q7_njuboarvs3pbzxl-ensunzc7qe+csc6xvqnfw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Migrar la mente de un anciano que usaba Clipper 5.3 [SOLUCIONADO]
El 01/07/12 20:09, Evgeny M. Zubok escribió: Debian GMailjavier.debian.bb...@gmail.com writes: Lo de SOLUCIONADO, es porque ya he tomado mi decisión, y los hilos deben cerrarse. Primero que todo, intentaré una solución rápida a través de recompilar el programa mediante el proyecto Clip. Por lo que he leído, solucionaría el problema más acuciante que tengo, que es el manejo de impresoras. http://www.lugli.org.ar/mediawiki/index.php/Clip_Debian Me parece que esta guía (y también el sitio web) es mejor. http://www.clip-castellano.com.ar/index.php?title=Portada#Instalaci.C3.B3n_de_Clip_en_Ubuntu_8.04_de_64_bits http://www.harbour-project.org es otro proyecto similar. A diferencia del Clip, el Harbour está siendo mantenido y desarrollado. También existe el xHarbour. Hay sistema argentino StockyFact [1] que fue creado con Clip. Por curiosidad, he compilado el Clip para Debian Squeeze. El Clip se ha compilado sin problemas y se han creado los paquetes .deb. Pero me encuentro con el siguiente problema. Todos los ejemplos debajo de la carpeta /examples generan correctamente los archivos ejecutables, pero al ejecutarlos no veo ninguna salida o ningún efecto, nada. Hm, creo que estoy haciendo algo mal. :-/ [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/stockyfact/ Gracias nuevamente. De hecho, el plan de acción es decompilar con Valkyrie 5 los ejecutables, si no encuentran los fuentes, dado que hasta hoy los han perdido, y recompilar con Clip para poder tener acceso a las impresoras en red. Y ponerse a reprogramar en entorno web. JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1c554.9070...@gmail.com
Re: como instalar compiz en whezzy
El Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:29:00 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: Hola gente... On 02/07/12 10:43, Camaleón wrote: El Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:03:20 +0400, Evgeny M. Zubok escribió: gnh...@riseup.net writes: Hola tengo una duda acerca de como instalar compiz fusion en debian whezzy ya que no la tengo en lo repositorios, alguien podria decirme como. Ese paquete aún no está en Wheezy por problemas de migración: http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=compiz Prueba instalarlo desde sid o squeeze. No es tan trivial como puede aparecer a primera vista. Lee algo sobre APT pinning y la página de manual de apt_preferences. Buf, pues wheezy ya está congelada... ¿podrán incluir compiz antes de que salga? :-? Si no les disgusta KDE, éste tiene varios efectos que sólo hay que habilitar: cubo, ventanitas gelatinosas y varios más. Bueno, la última información que tengo es que Compiz no funciona en GNOME3 +gnome-shell así que quien lo quiera usar tendrá que estar ya con KDE o cualquier otro entorno gráfico. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jsshel$4gd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: LibreOffice reconoce mal el teclado
El Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:57:28 -0500, Martin Edmundo Barriga Orozco escribió: Tu deberías conocer que región y datos tienes, revisa el manual si alguien tiene mas ideas que nos ayuden :) Bueno, ya le he dicho que ejecute oowriter desde línea de comandos para ver si le aparece algún aviso o mensaje relacionado con el problema de los acentos pero aún no he dicho nada :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jsshhm$4gd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: correcta forma de configurar la tarjeta de video nvidia Geforce4 MX 4000 128mb en debian 6
El Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:36:22 -0500, Constantino Vargas escribió: Gazapo mío, hay debe poner xrandr -q resultado Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.0* 800x60060.3 56.2 848x48060.0 640x48059.9 TV-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) Pues no la detecta, tendrás que probar a añadir la resolución manualmente siguiendo los pasos que indican en el enlace de más abajo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Adding_undetected_resolutions Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jsshoc$4gd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: como instalar compiz en whezzy
El 02/07/12 11:45, Camaleón escribió: El Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:29:00 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: Hola gente... On 02/07/12 10:43, Camaleón wrote: El Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:03:20 +0400, Evgeny M. Zubok escribió: gnh...@riseup.net writes: Hola tengo una duda acerca de como instalar compiz fusion en debian whezzy ya que no la tengo en lo repositorios, alguien podria decirme como. Ese paquete aún no está en Wheezy por problemas de migración: http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=compiz Prueba instalarlo desde sid o squeeze. No es tan trivial como puede aparecer a primera vista. Lee algo sobre APT pinning y la página de manual de apt_preferences. Buf, pues wheezy ya está congelada... ¿podrán incluir compiz antes de que salga? :-? Si no les disgusta KDE, éste tiene varios efectos que sólo hay que habilitar: cubo, ventanitas gelatinosas y varios más. Bueno, la última información que tengo es que Compiz no funciona en GNOME3 +gnome-shell así que quien lo quiera usar tendrá que estar ya con KDE o cualquier otro entorno gráfico. Además, como dijo Walter, las características mas llamativas de compiz ya las tiene kde 4 y de paso según me parece funcionan de manera mas ligera que la combinación gnome + compiz. Y digo me parece porque ya tengo mas de un mes que regresé del lado oscuro y estoy con gnome shell que ahora no me parece tan malo como al principio. Saludos, Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1d04b.5040...@gmail.com
Re: OT: Migrar la mente de un anciano que usaba Clipper 5.3
top-posting: recién me encuentro con este hilo, así que lo que diga probablemente lo encuentre en algunas de las respuestas; que veo que son MUCHAS, mas les vale que sea una flamewar porque cuando vi un hilo tan largo fui a hacer pochoclo (pipoca, cocaleca, palomitas de maiz, popcorn, etc) y espero que me entretenga en lunes xD (sigue abajo, en menos palabras) El sáb, 30-06-2012 a las 10:19 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: Estimados: Esto es MUY fuera de tópico, pero no se me ocurre realmente a quién preguntarles, y que me contesten con CONOCIMIENTOS en vez de cháchara inútil. (...) Donde trabajo, hay una aplicación que tiene más de 20 años, la cual fue programada originalmente en entorno MS-DOS para Clipper Summer '87, y luego migrada a Clipper 5.3., pero manteniendo el pecado de origen de no funcionar bajo entorno de red. Me explico: Summer tenía casi nulas opciones de bloqueos dinámicos de registro y/o archivos para accesos simultáneos, y la aplicación nació como monousuario. Fue tan buena, que incluso hoy, sigue funcionando. El tema es que están migrando los equipos de WinXP a Win7, y ya no hay emulación que lo soporte, amén que es MANDATORIO pasarla a un sistema multiusuario. ¿ni siquiera dosbox?, mirá que a mi me ayudó con cosas realmente antiguas (lo mas antiguo que recuerdo fue el jueguito ese del gato, que winxp no abre nativamente pero si con dosbox) (...) Vamos a las capacidades de programador, o sea, yo: he hecho MUCHO en Clipper, bastante en Oracle, y bastante en Fox-pro, por lo que las bases de datos relacionales no me implican problema, ni adaptarme a la programación orientada a objetos, a pesar que lo que más he hecho ha sido con programación lineal. Tengan en cuenta a esta altura de mi vida, no tengo ganas de aprender 3 o 4 lenguajes, para poder decidir por uno, y por eso pido vuestra ayuda, para tratar de dar al primer tiro con un lenguaje que: * Maneje pequeñas bases de datos. * Tenga capacidad multiusuario. * Tenga una curva de aprendizaje más o menos corta. * En lo posible, sea multiplataforma (tener en cuenta que mi organización, excepto yo, son todos windows-dependientes). Por lo que, al final, va la pregunta que justifica este hilo: ¿Qué recomiendan? python+algún sql PD: Por favor, que no se transforme en una batalla cultural. ¡ufa! -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1341247960.1965.24.ca...@eeepc.ucasal.ar
Re: OT: Migrar la mente de un anciano que usaba Clipper 5.3
El sáb, 30-06-2012 a las 16:41 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: El 30/06/12 16:16, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió: - Original Message - From: Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 2:49 PM Subject: Re: OT: Migrar la mente de un anciano que usaba Clipper 5.3 Decisiones tomadas hasta el momento: Sistema operativo: Win7_x64 (desgraciadamente, no tengo elección, sólo puedo influir en la versión para 64 bits). Apache como servidor web. MySQL como servidor DB. Ya estoy montando una máquina virtual con esto para hacer de servidor durante el período de programación y prueba. Decisión que debo tomar pronto: En qué programar las paginas. Hasta ahora, por una cuestión de simplicidad, me está gustando Python. Encontré una linda librería llamada MySQLdb para Python que es 100% ISO SQL (http://mysql-python.sourceforge.net/MySQLdb.html). JAP Revisa la licencia de MySQL que no es enteramente libre, lo puedes usar libre si das tu código fuente, caso contrario no. Tiene licencia dual. Enteramente libres son: PostgreSQL y Firebird Saludos Reiterados = || ISMAEL || = Lo someto a votación, porque por lo que veo son igualmente de potentes, corren multipaltaforma y en entorno de 64 bits. Ambos soportan ANS/ISO SQL, y etcéteras varios. ¿MySQL o PostgreSQL? Me da exactamente lo mismo, dado que tengo que empezar por el principio. en su momento mysql era mas fácil de instalar en win que postgresql (punto para mysql). Ni idea como estará la cosa ahora. Lo que decían de las licencias y todo eso... mysql fue comprado por sun, que a su vez fue comprado por oracle. Y como con openoffice o solaris, nadie sabe cuanto va a durar. (punto para postgresql). Aunque ya hay forks JAP -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1341248386.1965.27.ca...@eeepc.ucasal.ar
Re: OT: Migrar la mente de un anciano que usaba Clipper 5.3 [SOLUCIONADO]
El día 2 de julio de 2012 12:59, Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com escribió: El 01/07/12 20:09, Evgeny M. Zubok escribió: Debian GMailjavier.debian.bb...@gmail.com writes: Lo de SOLUCIONADO, es porque ya he tomado mi decisión, y los hilos deben cerrarse. Primero que todo, intentaré una solución rápida a través de recompilar el programa mediante el proyecto Clip. Por lo que he leído, solucionaría el problema más acuciante que tengo, que es el manejo de impresoras. http://www.lugli.org.ar/mediawiki/index.php/Clip_Debian Me parece que esta guía (y también el sitio web) es mejor. http://www.clip-castellano.com.ar/index.php?title=Portada#Instalaci.C3.B3n_de_Clip_en_Ubuntu_8.04_de_64_bits http://www.harbour-project.org es otro proyecto similar. A diferencia del Clip, el Harbour está siendo mantenido y desarrollado. También existe el xHarbour. Hay sistema argentino StockyFact [1] que fue creado con Clip. Por curiosidad, he compilado el Clip para Debian Squeeze. El Clip se ha compilado sin problemas y se han creado los paquetes .deb. Pero me encuentro con el siguiente problema. Todos los ejemplos debajo de la carpeta /examples generan correctamente los archivos ejecutables, pero al ejecutarlos no veo ninguna salida o ningún efecto, nada. Hm, creo que estoy haciendo algo mal. :-/ [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/stockyfact/ Gracias nuevamente. De hecho, el plan de acción es decompilar con Valkyrie 5 los ejecutables, si no encuentran los fuentes, dado que hasta hoy los han perdido, y recompilar con Clip para poder tener acceso a las impresoras en red. Y ponerse a reprogramar en entorno web. JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1c554.9070...@gmail.com Sobre el ahora. tuve que migrar 4 clientes con sistemas clipper 5.3 lo que arme es Debian + dosemu + ssh para el acceso de los clientes el mas grande de los 4 es un supermercado con 15 maquinas y anda de fiesta y el proyecto es python + mysql -- MrIX Linux user number 412793. http://counter.li.org/ las grandes obras, las sueñan los santos locos, las realizan los luchadores natos, las aprovechan los felices cuerdo, y las critican los inútiles crónicos, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calvb54yd2ybr9nn6opa3jxsxgz0dwa3efcroxkcidlscz-k...@mail.gmail.com
Re: como instalar compiz en whezzy
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Ese paquete aún no está en Wheezy por problemas de migración: http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=compiz Buf, pues wheezy ya está congelada... ¿podrán incluir compiz antes de que salga? :-? Creo que sí. La línea Ignoring block request by freeze, due to unblock request by freeze-exception, me parece, apunta a que el compiz recibió la oportunidad de pasar de sid a wheezy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871uku6iea@tochka.ru
Saludos desde Cuba
Una saludo a los miembros de la lista desde Cuba. Espero encontrar ayuda y muchos amigos en esta lista. Josue -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/F973D9D5B9924AA0BE3415031D9E5524@prometeo
Problemas Postfix
Estimados todos, Tengo un pequeño problema, tenia un servidor virtual con postfix sobre debian, pero la semana pasada tuve un problema con el Storage y el acceso a la maquina virtual se perdió, por lo que subí un postfix en un computador para seguir dando el servicio de correo electrónico. Ahora ya se arreglo el problema con el storage y tengo los correos de la ultima semana en el servidor improvisado y los correos anteriores en la máquina virtual. pensé en usar imap sync pero me di cuenta que me migra todos los correos, no los de la ultima semana. Me pueden recomendar un script o algo que solo migre los correos de la ultima semana? Gracias de antemano por la ayuda. -- Antonio Insuasti R. PM FLOSS IBS IBM “Linux System Administrator” #ECUSFQ00228 ECE. #200571804 – #200576560 Mobile:(593) 087536110 E-mail:antonioinsua...@ibs.ec P.E-mail: anto...@insuasti.ec identi.ca/twiiter: @wolfantec Quito-Ecuador- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAE9-cyiuNOwYUVCYVjtTgA-cW-ntjSnyAaYYX72=zrjqfx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Saludos desde Cuba
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El 02/07/12 22:38, Josue escribió: Una saludo a los miembros de la lista desde Cuba. Espero encontrar ayuda y muchos amigos en esta lista. Josue Bienvenido y disfruta de la estancia xD Gracias por sumarte. - -- Blog: tarrasquero.blogspot.com En irc.debian.org: Tarrasquero, canal #debian-es En irc.freenode.net: Tarrasquero, canal #debian-es -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP8hFsAAoJEC8/uwb+5AWFvwUH/3RkhidCd8rcuu2zRVLx858o 82aY11MmPvrEWDfSQC0846EK+Jre0+zO1WKoIzcAFbZDo3GGFXcKtId7yCzvWSPY e+YmCPKvsm4k8RBREZcLTfEVC632LywuLpSiowV/5U9WCMHyDBcbzfqgM+X5+sID 2iXkA/KjPge67MZ/18qdSmVE2xQhZKknHkYJGNmwadfvuP5BYPdpRZB2q4UgqtPQ xbCnJd9fPijjcaWIyst2MNS/Jj1I9mEQZHY34XV5zNL4N+KKvn9tempGZQ+2NyJg UM8nMixCqGgVh5Y50K2eDE5gr/gx94q/sEhQYv6CAs5uEfXFNZ9HHxP+RLTJd+w= =snQt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff2116c.5060...@gmail.com
Re: Saludos desde Cuba
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Re: correcta forma de configurar la tarjeta de video nvidia Geforce4 MX 4000 128mb en debian 6
Constantino Vargas consvar...@gmail.com writes: hola amigos tengo una pc con placa madre MSI K8N Neo3 con tarjeta de video nvidia Geforce4 MX 4000 128mb bueno es la primera vez que uso esta tarjeta de vídeo en mi debian 6 sucede que he tratado de configurar via xorg.conf la resolución de monitor LCD panorámico pero no surte efecto de allí que lo deje a la resolución por defecto 1024 x 768, bueno he vuelto ha retomar este tema. les agradeceré me den las pautas de la correcta forma configurar la tarjeta de video para usar a la resolución del monitor LCD LG 1366x768 ¿Podrías poner en algún sitio el contenido completo de archivo /var/log/Xorg.0.conf? Súbelo, por ejemplo, a pastebin.com. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txxp6dnp@tochka.ru
mic no debian
Ola, Amigos, o mic intereno de meu no note da LG C4000 nao pega, uso debian squeeze com interface kde. ja verifiquei o alsamixer e lá está tudo certinho. consigo ouvir a pessoas mas ela nao me ouvem. tanto no skype e no gtalk. A configuração de meu driver de som é essa. root@manoel:/home/manoel# cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.21 emulation code) Kernel: Linux manoel 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun May 6 04:00:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: HDA Intel at 0xd640 irq 22 Audio devices: 0: ALC269 Analog (DUPLEX) Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 31: system timer Mixers: 0: Intel G45 DEVIBX Se alguem puder me ajudar eu agradeço muito
Controle de Brilho no Debian 6
Olá amigos... Instalei o debian6 a 2 dias, e venho tendo problemas com o controle de brilho, onde minhas teclas Fn+ / não funcionam e fica um brilho insuportável, já procurei alguns tutoriais e nenhum resolveu meu problema. Alguém sabe como resolver este problema? Meu notebook é um Acer 5750, Core i5 com 4G de Ram, a placa de vídeo é uma intel HD Graphis 3000
Re: Script chamado pelo cron não roda como deveria.
99% do problema pode ser : - falta de uso de path's absolutos, não é cat é /usr/bin/cat ; - o seu script tá configurado para rodar no 'bash', mas seu crontab tá ajustado para rodar pelo 'sh', neste caso voce acrescenta ao crontab (lá na primeira linha antes das programações agendadas) a seguinte linha : SHELL=/bin/bash Se persistir em ter problema, vou logo dizendo que os outros 1% é complicado de identificar. Em 27 de junho de 2012 17:01, Luis H. Forchesatto luisforchesa...@gmail.com escreveu: Saudações. Tenho um script que quando é chamado pelo cron não executa todos os comandos devidamente. Chamando ele pelo shell ele roda sem problemas nenhum. Dei permissão 777 para ele para ver se era esse o problema mas não era... Há alguma ideia do que possa ser? -- Att. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caa09jk8fcsvbm_ppi+f9wm7+cywpxootjvccdbue6mpzate...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Script chamado pelo cron não roda como deveria.
Seta uma variável path dentro de seu script. Eden Caldas Consultor de TI e...@linuxfacil.srv.br (81) 9747 (81) 9653 7220 LINUX FÁCIL – Consultoria e Serviços em TI Em 2 de julho de 2012 17:20, hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com escreveu: 99% do problema pode ser : - falta de uso de path's absolutos, não é cat é /usr/bin/cat ; - o seu script tá configurado para rodar no 'bash', mas seu crontab tá ajustado para rodar pelo 'sh', neste caso voce acrescenta ao crontab (lá na primeira linha antes das programações agendadas) a seguinte linha : SHELL=/bin/bash Se persistir em ter problema, vou logo dizendo que os outros 1% é complicado de identificar. Em 27 de junho de 2012 17:01, Luis H. Forchesatto luisforchesa...@gmail.com escreveu: Saudações. Tenho um script que quando é chamado pelo cron não executa todos os comandos devidamente. Chamando ele pelo shell ele roda sem problemas nenhum. Dei permissão 777 para ele para ver se era esse o problema mas não era... Há alguma ideia do que possa ser? -- Att. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caa09jk8fcsvbm_ppi+f9wm7+cywpxootjvccdbue6mpzate...@mail.gmail.com
e1000, only 2 of 4 expected ports available
I have a Dell poweredge 850 server with a quad port intel gigabit ethernet pci-x card, but I'm only getting 2 of the 4 expected ports listed. The external usb drive used to boot this hasn't deleted the 'auto eth renumbering', so ports for eth0 start at eth11 - eth14. More diagnostics here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sLivuXo_LizOOzPaTQyyofZ_d5QKDUD9F176b4trREU/edit I haven't seen anything suspect in dmesg. Regards, Scott Edwards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+eKUg-2H4qL2vsXxRvPyf-gPWPOh4kVgRNmGRXZ3aQFaML=1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Backports on Squeeze
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 02.07.2012 03:15, Mark Panen wrote: Hi, Is it safe to have backports enabled on a stable Squeeze 6.05 system? I have them enabled on stable Squeeze system and I know some other people too and we haven't experienced any problems. By default when you add the backports sources.list line, nothing is installed from it automatically unless you run aptitude install -t squeeze-backports package. We have also set backports to priority 500 so everything is installed from them automatically if it contains newer packages than Squeeze main repositories. Note that some people say that this is more dangerous than running Debian Unstable (currently Wheezy) and you are doing this with your own risk. Our sources.list lines: ``` deb http://http.debian.net/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free ``` Our /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports: ``` Package: * Pin: release a=squeeze-backports Pin-Priority: 500 ``` Remember that you are enabling Backports with your own risk in case you decide to enable them. - -- [Mika Suomalainen](https://mkaysi.github.com/) || NOTICE! I am on mobile broadband with very limited time, so I cannot read emails very much. The best time to contact me is probably weekends when I have better connectivity with good luck. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Homepage: http://mkaysi.github.com/ Comment: gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 82A46728 Comment: Public key: http://mkaysi.github.com/PGP/key.txt Comment: Fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 Comment: Why do I (clear)sign emails? http://git.io/6FLzWg Comment: Please send plaintext instead of HTML. http://git.io/TAc0cg Comment: Please don't toppost. http://git.io/7-VB3g Comment: Charset of this message should be UTF-8. Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP8VHSAAoJEE21PP6CpGcog30P/ApyH9hluO3oOywfE2rSHi4Y a7U6t4ePuDry6Tk2EfIi/IQ8xRctc1yjBrZid7iXjSscIAL+pPl1sP7zGE006ban 5iynKP+OhuGPAlz5NXShifSelCIcLefSQmCQIJ2Fv0YzisZxTgMO3Bes7aeKFJK+ 0njfrj0sga5NqT/Y6lcAsjar0zJsUVshfXAHDhIu9VlB0H8tMWRXmpCL3/q7nSTd 8iQONbusupPj2tkFUmg+K3BGM0mkBPYXjUokqlJf9MtPSZ7JXKxP/SsPpeHkzbiA P4gf5U1mGCDoNo+iXaQB4fyO5/gOn6Q8+93a0Gyq5u9qLwewKb/5q0B743iIUF1N NSoLTFM0w3d3gi0BR4JNdxqIUnlFj2RRgO/BvslxTH1Rm8jr1kLC26bn7yIpXdXP 4LTNCeAbNwbAYxkvrctcB7YmUz9Rz75bN0WV4cXM6xMwARyN8xKcvTlVZEDH+xGa YxAyvDo+q6eBPVR9zIyor72rdgEWXbIB+Mu5B8gpYTrqJd/F3x9HOVW+t4ay3JmZ O1Tuktdquh/w4oBevEkw6Ba+sbTa3tq7HoBihkRO5du+ZFh8yNrKwq7yeYxzkZ8L ZVcf+kcmaXQRvJrAG1ZY4EkIc1T73FHaWlIxSPxdhj3HNiZVLK8aW9sNLKG1UUm0 HcXiu4eZX+AEaupWQ7ZH =+fLV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff151d6.6060...@hotmail.com
Re: Backports on Squeeze
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02.07.2012 10:47, debian-user@lists.debian.org wrote: __ Type your response ABOVE THIS LINE to reply Re: Backports on Squeeze *1QA4xxx2a* | JUL 02, 2012 | 07:47AM UTC Thank you for submitting your request. We have received your request and are working on responding to you as soon as possible. If you have any additional information to add to this case, please reply to this email. Thanks in advance for your patience and support. This message was sent to mark.pa...@gmail.com in reference to Case #90370. [[d6a0244014c0926f81afcb1f09c37a6c1ef4bd56-1778919]] Joe, I added filter to automatically put you to spam automatically, how do you still appear in my inbox? :(.. - -- [Mika Suomalainen](https://mkaysi.github.com/) || NOTICE! I am on mobile broadband with very limited time, so I cannot read emails very much. The best time to contact me is probably weekends when I have better connectivity with good luck. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Homepage: http://mkaysi.github.com/ Comment: gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 82A46728 Comment: Public key: http://mkaysi.github.com/PGP/key.txt Comment: Fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 Comment: Why do I (clear)sign emails? http://git.io/6FLzWg Comment: Please send plaintext instead of HTML. http://git.io/TAc0cg Comment: Please don't toppost. http://git.io/7-VB3g Comment: Charset of this message should be UTF-8. Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP8VOJAAoJEE21PP6CpGcopRAP/2tEo+1ncabD/hTO9Qykxa2D 8G4FpkrXQZJawj7kRNjQo00eqNGliCKFHnaTrofCvbRihgVPh70GXz55CGKSU7Lo gSLH/pM64me/KTx2ETwHyoPgmN2zLAlYSVieWrG4mMjJRPTivpKTjmz79Kt3qDv7 UAPyrnmpEVtMg4hAzu97jB9m5QtfVgam36O1LFZVTZ90YTBZc5pqcIg5M3RQoJP3 o4Yfjmr5IaWtFPji+VNGn1VyFJIvTKEIiDU+Uw7k+L23rj2w8n3C2ep5cnXGMNK/ IC37QRxp9n4pgUrBOqlotp1Rw/Z8SOb1nlrWmN+JFo8SjpI7yQq6XVHNMqsuNmdK KJdCyOJbDgs6bptrHuXLvoHtExKSTo22jHQILT/mUvUP2/HCErWRi1T54vnkkSJs ha+NO5aWPGQ3OREJMHBvWlkvp0Bj04x5Zf2Pfpek7VtSM9NVwsZMr+xnGIqoPU0o sF2B5Piun0mCVek09KGTlfnl7Z4QHPM8Zv+ugdtBhOZZwpDyBkQ+U6GnBN0thM6A WeIr3TPFxOKDy9hANCV65I1opGzfo7ds2NTLyXd2qYJDkWDsakj6z3THnG/Keb2l iVpr7A1auGwhkTxDPy26OWTD0zJF9RSs+G0Vx0szLGJcPglJFoCOIbSMn+YzGWbP Pj278IpCq8eCmKGsf4Li =Etag -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1538c.2030...@hotmail.com
Re: why ABIWORD?
On 30 Jun 2012, Joe wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:16:04 +0200 Francesco Pietra chiendar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello: With my i386 wheezy, a today update/upgrade led to libreoffice (text) not launching. I resorted to abiword, new in my experience. I found abiword in great troubles with tables made by libreoffice odt. Suddendly, abiword was able to destroy nearly completely the content of the big table. Should my experience be representative, it would be better not to propose text editors that are unable to do what they should. I'm happy to keep both. I find Abiword able to display some Word documents which LibreOffice cannot, and vice versa. I'd have to be fairly desperate to actually create a Word document with either, or even edit one. [snip] I've published six e-books on Smashwords and this requirees submitting them as Word.doc files. I did this successfully with oowriter/libreoffice; I wouldn't say it was enjoyable but it was possible. In fact, I've now published an e-book (Making Word.doc Files in Linux) which explains how I managed it. Several of these books were originally Lyx files and I converted these to rtf for Libreoffice. AC -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk http://www.reviewbooks.org.uk http://www.skepticviews.org.uk http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702075818.ga2...@acampbell.org.uk
Re: backuppc failed full backup of itself
2012/6/27 Keith McKenzie km3...@gmail.com: The system isn't backed up normally, as you would have installation media to restore it; you would just backup configuration. Having said that, if you do want to back it up, use a live media, not the running system. (Usually it is only your data that is irreplaceable.) thanks. since the backup server is a VMware VM, might as well back it up using VDR -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cahw9mbzi2g+ivrqfyvp1zc42w1cbgwgmx4cgk3vs+ka1zmg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: startup script
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 04:38:50AM BST, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 01 iul 12, 18:31:24, rjc wrote: Desktop Environments or Window Managers do not run $SHELL startup files, nor should they. No, but some display managers do :) At least gdm (and gdm3 IIRC) and kdm do this, which should cover most users. GDM sources /etc/profile and it's only to set environment variables, and NOT meant to start programs - other sourced files are distribution-specific. Regards, -- rjc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702090652.ga17...@linuxstuff.pl
ST Visual Programmer on Squeeze
Hello all This is probably a wine specific question, but I thought I would start here. I am attempting to get ST Visual Programmer working properly on Squeeze. The application installed under WINE without error, and it actually starts and I can load programs etc, but I can't seem to send the program to the attached device. It seems as though wine doesn't have working USB drivers, but I admit to not knowing how WINE uses attached devices. If I could get a Linux equivalent application then I guess that would be a better working solution. The device I am attempting to flash is a STM8S105x6 via an stm8s-discovery USB interface board. Your comments would be most helpful Regards Fred
Re: dumb scanner question
On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 07:51:06PM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote: How does everyone here scan books and magazines into their systems, without destroying said magazines/books? What type of scanners do you use? Personally, I've never really been too bothered about it, but the definitive solution appears to be along the lines of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_scanning Alternatively, look at the unpaper package. It seems quite good at doing those annoying tasks such as straightening the image, removing the gradient on the background etc. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Server monitoring
as you all vote for loganalyzer but i may also want to send an prompt alert on my cellphone via sms or VIA email. so do loganalyzer support this feature? Thanks, On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Denis Witt denis.w...@concepts-and-training.de wrote: On 29.06.2012 12:46, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: i want your suggestion in installting a centralized syslog server with web interface. I also use rsyslog and LogAnalyzer. For crucial services I also use Nagios and Munin. Nagios also send me push-notifications on my Phone if any listed service fails or a machine is running out of disk space, etc. Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fedd739.5000...@concepts-and-training.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfMk=+euzscbrqrgarnklgej2k1t0jxnf5cxfz+m3rj4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Backports on Squeeze
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 08:10:07AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 02 iul 12, 15:46:40, Chris Bannister wrote: I think there is an issue regarding security updates. Also I think you need appropriate pinning, maybe wrong though. Would you care to elaborate on this? The default pinning (priority 100) will make sure you do get updates, but don't install new backports unless specifically requested. So you need to keep physically checking (maybe apt-cache policy) when a new backport is available? Ahh, OK I see debian-backports-chan...@lists.debian.org, but seems fairly high volume. I have vague memories of when I was running iceweasel in Lenny from backports I had to mess around with the -t switch for its dependencies (xulrunner, and a libmoz library) because I didn't pin them but I had iceweasel pinned. I followed the instructions from the backports repository. But I see, now that backports is officially under the Debian umbrella, that the instructions are different. It was a while ago, and things change. That is why I added maybe wrong though. So the OP could double-check for himself. Also remember to disable backports before updating to wheezy. Release notes will probably mention this. Shouldn't be necessary, the backports versioning is specifically designed so that the version in testing is higher (the magic of ~) http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#userbackports But now that backports are official, that will no longer be valid? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702111533.GD18755@tal
Re: Server monitoring
On 02.07.2012 12:06, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: as you all vote for loganalyzer but i may also want to send an prompt alert on my cellphone via sms or VIA email. so do loganalyzer support this feature? No (AFAIK), but Nagios does. E-Mail works out of the box. For SMS you will need some kind of service provider or some (linux and sms server tools) compatible hardware. If you use an iPhone you can also take a look at the prowl-App to receive push notifications. Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff184bd.4000...@concepts-and-training.de
Re: Backports on Squeeze
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 11:15:33PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 08:10:07AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Shouldn't be necessary, the backports versioning is specifically designed so that the version in testing is higher (the magic of ~) http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#userbackports But now that backports are official, that will no longer be valid? Arrrgh!! I see that refers to userbackports -- caught me out there :( -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702112558.GA19239@tal
Re: PS2 Keyboard not working after latest update
I have never encountered this problem before. All updates I did to squeeze never bothered my keyboard. Then again I am using a usb-keyboard. Not PS/2 connection type. I've noticed in the past using PS/2 keyboard they did not always work. I will have to do a little investigation on this matter. However your issue helps me look deeper into how my system detects and adds the keyboard. On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: [Please don't top post.] On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 08:16:07PM -0400, Istimsak wrote: Where did you get this log from? As you can see: On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 11:09:25AM +, James Allsopp wrote: Have you got any ideas on this, Istimsak? Also please keep messages on list. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X
Re: Server monitoring
do you guyz think that *.* @syslog-server is a good option to use. are you guys forwarding specific messages or using *.* i have listed servers 3 KVM qemu (vertualization) 3 Squid servers. 2 Samba storage servers. 2 firewall (IPCOP) and more to come.. mailserver. VOIP e.t.c in this kind of of an environment what kind of strategy do you guyz think that i can use. *.* or specific or any better approach that you guyz can suggest. Thank you, On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Denis Witt denis.w...@concepts-and-training.de wrote: On 02.07.2012 12:06, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: as you all vote for loganalyzer but i may also want to send an prompt alert on my cellphone via sms or VIA email. so do loganalyzer support this feature? No (AFAIK), but Nagios does. E-Mail works out of the box. For SMS you will need some kind of service provider or some (linux and sms server tools) compatible hardware. If you use an iPhone you can also take a look at the prowl-App to receive push notifications. Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff184bd.4000...@concepts-and-training.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfM=cabwwjwwef4oywauhy4h2bmsbwq+pkhwh7hzcmq9...@mail.gmail.com
Crontab, Scripting and Syslog
Hi folks On my webserver I've recently added a log-sorting and presentation program by the name of Webalizer. To make it run, I've put this line in the crontab (everything runs as a normal user): * 04 * * * /home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21 The line runs every morning at 4, and AFAIK, the /dev/-part should redirect all but errors to null. The script is really simple: #!/bin/sh webalizer=/usr/bin/webalizer yesterday_date=$(date -d yesterday +%Y.%m.%d) # For debugging # echo $webalizer # echo $yesterday_date if test -e /var/log/apache2/access.$yesterday_date; then $webalizer /var/log/apache2/access.$yesterday_date else echo Yesterdays log not found. Exiting exit 12 fi exit 0 Now, my question is these lines in syslog: titanus@aptget:~$ sudo cat /var/log/syslog | grep titanus Jun 11 04:00:01 aptget /USR/SBIN/CRON[1567]: (titanus) CMD (/home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21) Jun 11 04:01:01 aptget /USR/SBIN/CRON[1572]: (titanus) CMD (/home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21) (One line per minut for an entire hour) Jun 11 04:59:01 aptget /USR/SBIN/CRON[1879]: (titanus) CMD (/home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21) What do they mean? As far as I can see, the result of Webalizer is made at 4, not 4:59, so I suspect the srcipt only runs at 4. The system is a standard Squeeze with nothing funny or unstable. Thanks, tit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702145106.4aecd...@asrock.local.aptget.dk
Re: Crontab, Scripting and Syslog
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 02:51:06PM +0200, Titanus Eramius wrote: Hi folks On my webserver I've recently added a log-sorting and presentation program by the name of Webalizer. To make it run, I've put this line in the crontab (everything runs as a normal user): * 04 * * * /home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21 The line runs every morning at 4, and AFAIK, the /dev/-part should redirect all but errors to null. The script is really simple: [cut] Now, my question is these lines in syslog: titanus@aptget:~$ sudo cat /var/log/syslog | grep titanus Jun 11 04:00:01 aptget /USR/SBIN/CRON[1567]: (titanus) CMD (/home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21) Jun 11 04:01:01 aptget /USR/SBIN/CRON[1572]: (titanus) CMD (/home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21) (One line per minut for an entire hour) Jun 11 04:59:01 aptget /USR/SBIN/CRON[1879]: (titanus) CMD (/home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21) What do they mean? As far as I can see, the result of Webalizer is made at 4, not 4:59, so I suspect the srcipt only runs at 4. The system is a standard Squeeze with nothing funny or unstable. These lines are cron telling you what it's running. Note that your crontab line states: # min hr dom mon dow command * 04 * * * /home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21 That is, every minute during hour 4, on every day of every month (that being every day of the week), the command is run. Presumably, webalizer writes its output to the same place each time, so that is why you're only seeing the output of the 4:59 run. Try changing your crontab to read: # min hr dom mon dow command 0 04 * * * /home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21 This will run at 4:00 every day, and is probably what you meant. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: PS2 Keyboard not working after latest update
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:43:56AM +0100, James Allsopp wrote: Tried both of those but nothing. I have a theory that it might be a Udev problem, but can't be certain. Does anyone have any ideas why a problem like that might arise? Yes, if something removes the udev state in /dev/.udev (or /run/udev on wheezy or sid) then the input device autodetection won't work when X starts up. If you have a USB (NOT PS/2) keyboard/mouse, try unplugging and then plug back in--hotplugging should result in autodetection of the new input devices. If you're running wheezy/unstable, and /run is a symlink to /var/run, your system is broken (/run should not be a symlink), and you should try the packages at http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/sysvinit/ which fix the problem (they'll be uploaded soon). Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702132025.gc4...@codelibre.net
Re: CD/DVD diagnostic tools needed
Camaleón wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:30:21 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm having various random problems installing from Live CD's. The
problems are weird, inconsistent, and intermittent. The first thing is
to determine whether or not I have faulty hardware, be it the target box
or the box that burns the CD.
Optical media is more and more becoming a complete headache.
Why? The usual trend is for products to improve as they mature.
Is it media related? I only use write once media as I've had
no interest in adding to /or modifying what is already on a
CD {self defeating for my usage style ;}
Is it application related? My *APPARENT NOTICEABLE*
symptoms have Debian 6.x related. I've a collection of
LiveCD's and standalone diagnostic CD's that I use without
problems. I'm about to do another Ubuntu 10.10 test install.
If that goes well, I'll burn a copy of the ISO to a DVD of
the same production batch used for my Debian install.
I'm a slow typist - test install completed without apparent
symptoms.
Hmmm - now that I stop and think about it.
I believe all observed symptoms revolve around root password
not being recognized.
And Ubuntu forcibly prohibits root passwords.
Further musings - I believe all working installs have been
to sda1 - i.e. a physical partition. All others have been to
a partition under sda2 - an extended partition.
I see a set of diagnostic installs in my future - same
distro to physical partition and to a partition under an
extended partition. [I hesitated to say LVM until I double
check definitions.]
Have you considered installing from USB stick instead?
Yes. But by personality I'm the type that will the WHY? of
a failure before looking for a workaround. Besides I've the
time to do the grunt work of repetitive testing for the
underpinnings of a decent bug report even if I don't have
the skills to fix it.
Anyway, for inconsistent errors (now works, now doesn't), sometimes is
better to replace the DVD drive for a new one (specially when is old
for today standards which means 4/5 years), and given their current
prices (~25€) that's something affordable.
Cost of a replacement drive is not an issue. As I prefer
brick-n-mortar it would be 8 hour round trip to get one. I'm
in *VERY* RURAL south west Missouri (livestock much more
common than people ;)
I've already run memtest86 and Seagate disk diagnostics demonstrating
that problems from that area is unlikely.
I need two diagnostics:
1. verify what's on the CD matches the ISO from which it
was generated.
[already have verified that the downloaded MD5SUM
matches repository]
http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.en.html#verify
debian.org reminds me of the original CPM-80 manual, info
there but dense in all possible connotations of the word
Perhaps I should have specified I was looking for end user
friendly tool.
2. verify target system reads CD/DVD correctly.
(...)
Is your CD/DVD reader capable of booting from it?
yes
Greetings,
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Re: CD/DVD diagnostic tools needed
Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 04:24:05PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:30:21 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm having various random problems installing from Live CD's. The problems are weird, inconsistent, and intermittent. The first thing is to determine whether or not I have faulty hardware, be it the target box or the box that burns the CD. Optical media is more and more becoming a complete headache. Have you considered installing from USB stick instead? Anyway, for inconsistent errors (now works, now doesn't), sometimes is better to replace the DVD drive for a new one (specially when is old for today standards which means 4/5 years), and given their current prices (~25€) that's something affordable. Ouch!!, at least try different media first, some media are problematic with some DVD/CD drives (according to some stuff I've read) The reason was looking for end user friendly diagnostic tools ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1a481.8040...@cloud85.net
Re: Crontab, Scripting and Syslog
snip # min hr dom mon dow command * 04 * * * /home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21 That is, every minute during hour 4, on every day of every month (that being every day of the week), the command is run. Presumably, webalizer writes its output to the same place each time, so that is why you're only seeing the output of the 4:59 run. Try changing your crontab to read: # min hr dom mon dow command 0 04 * * * /home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21 This will run at 4:00 every day, and is probably what you meant. Yes it is. I'll try and set it and return tommorrow. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702154735.1ecfc...@asrock.local.aptget.dk
i386 testing: java not recognizing its libraries and libreoffice not launching
Following update/upgrade, java does not recognize libjli.so any more. I had to set LD_LIBRARY... to remedy. Nonetheless, libreoffice does not start any more: francesco@deb32:~$ libreoffice terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException' francesco@deb32:~$ I thought it is a java problem. What else? Incidentally, I turned to AbiWORD for my .dot table. Unless my i386 testing has major problems, that text editor is simply unusable for complex tables. In general, while at the linux prompt Debian works well (in particular amd64 testing, here in use for a GPU-CPU cluster), once gnome is launched installed, problems arise. Too many things that in science are not used, too much done automatically, and often erroneously. I am at gnome simply for gchempaint, other wise there is no decent pdf reader not CD burner, which are useful to any purpose. I had to install okular and k3b, making the complex even more complex. With such stuff as gnome, which even pretends to take care of upgrading, newcomers will not even learn how to mount a device. Thanks for advice about libreoffice francesco pietra PS: I am not at the stable i386 version simply to have a correspondence with testing amd64 which we have to use for recent nvidia drivers for GPU-CPU clusters. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAEv0nmvQsv-FSG90By0=ohg4vx7mlzpwmjp-ktgue9rtyex...@mail.gmail.com
[OT] Re: CGI Scripts
On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 17:05:51 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: 1] Where should I put the CGI scripts that I write Inside a directory with the right perms and accessable by your web server. 2] Where should the Scriptalias be located and what should be its structure. That's up to the web server admin. The docs of your web server would expand this information and provide some tips. 3] How should I run my CGI scripts. By giving the right perms to the files to be run and reading a lot. I have searched on Google and cannot find an [understandable] answer. I really doubt it. Googling for cgi+your web server should return thousand of pages, documents and tutorials... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssa2s$4gd$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Marvel controller gives errors Squeeze
On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 23:06:40 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: On 01/07/2012 18:11, Camaleón wrote: Is ata2 your hdd? Run dmesg | grep -i ata2 to find out. yes looks like it: [0.900101] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf3ff7000 port 0xf3ff7180 irq 35 [1.722809] ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300) Are you sure? I see no hard disk attached there :-? This is my output (ata1 is where my first sata disk is connected): sm01@stt008:~$ dmesg | grep -i ata1 [1.845459] ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xdc627000 port 0xdc627100 irq 1277 [2.388162] ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300) [2.428872] ata1.00: ATA-8: ST3250310NS, SN06, max UDMA/133 ^^^ [2.434697] ata1.00: 488397168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32) [2.475931] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 Despite the ata2 port is up, I wonder why there's no device listed. Am i right it's only working at 1.5 Gbps when it should be 6 Gbps? So it seems :-? hdparm -tT /dev/sda /dev/sda: Timing cached reads: 20022 MB in 2.00 seconds = 10021.38 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 368 MB in 3.10 seconds = 118.71 MB/sec Would this be right or must i run hdparm on the / directory? You should clear the buffer cache first but still, those values seem a bit conservative for sata 6 hard disk (caviar black) with sata 6 controller. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssb2i$4gd$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Crontab, Scripting and Syslog
Titanus Eramius tita...@aptget.dk wrote: * 04 * * * /home/titanus/scripts/web-log /dev/null 21 The line runs every morning at 4, and AFAIK, the /dev/-part should redirect all but errors to null. No. 1. This runs every minute while the hour is 4. If you want the script to run only a 4am, you need to specify a zero minute value too 2. The /dev/null 21 tells cron to thow away not just errors but also all normal output. If you want to lose information written to stderr (typically errors), then you need 2 /dev/null 0 4 * * * /home/titanus/scripts/web-log 2/dev/null Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/iim8c9x3dg@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu
Tom H wrote: Siard wrote: Mika Suomalainen wrote: It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but not Ubuntu. First make sure that Ubuntu's /boot/grub/grub.cfg contains a menuentry for Ubuntu in the section starting with ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### os-prober doesn't need /boot/grub/grub.cfg in Ubuntu to exist in order to create an entry in the Debian /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober section. I have Squeeze and Wheezy. I uninstalled Wheezy's grub, but then Squeeze's grub did not detect kernel upgrades in Wheezy. After reinstalling Wheezy's grub, things worked right again. That's why I concluded that Wheezy's /boot/grub/grub.cfg is needed. If /boot/grub/grub.cfg exists in Ubuntu, os-prober uses its kernel options in the Debian /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober section. Yep, I once moved Wheezy to another partition. Wheezy's grub.cfg still contained the old partition, and Squeeze's os-prober adopted that. I had to correct the partition in Wheezy's grub.cfg to get it working right again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702163050.5338fa05.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Blog Post re libav vs ffmpeg
Hi folks: Interesting blog-post here (1) on the controversy. Any particular reason why Debian decided to go the libav route and what about the quote in the article where it mentions that the Debian Packager is spreading misinformation? As a Debian user for some time I'm astonished that Debian decided to go the libav route if this blog post is accurate; http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-ffmpeg-libav-situation.html The author seems quite level headed about his reasoning which do make quite a bit of sense to this reader. Regards, Stephen Allen (1) http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-ffmpeg-libav-situation.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702143131.ga18...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: Filezilla a security risk
On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 19:08:52 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:13:13 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, aren't most of us still using plain pop3 and smtp connections with no message encryption at all? Who are we blaming? ;-) We are? I can't speak for anyone else, but all my mail accounts (I use Gmail and Lavabit) use SSL (ports 995 / 465) for incoming and outgoing mail. Good boy :-) I'm also using Gmail (still, yes...) with pop3s/smtps but Gmail is only one of the mailboxes I have to command. For the rest of them (99%) there's a mix of non-secured/secured in a 3/1 rate. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssbgo$4gd$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: CD/DVD diagnostic tools needed
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:34:00 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 04:24:05PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:30:21 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm having various random problems installing from Live CD's. The problems are weird, inconsistent, and intermittent. The first thing is to determine whether or not I have faulty hardware, be it the target box or the box that burns the CD. Optical media is more and more becoming a complete headache. Have you considered installing from USB stick instead? Anyway, for inconsistent errors (now works, now doesn't), sometimes is better to replace the DVD drive for a new one (specially when is old for today standards which means 4/5 years), and given their current prices (~25€) that's something affordable. Ouch!!, at least try different media first, some media are problematic with some DVD/CD drives (according to some stuff I've read) The above weird, inconsistent, and intermittent errors indicate some CDs do work and some doesn't. If all the tests are being done in the same way (same media, same writing speed, same burning tools...) there's a high chance for the unit going bad. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssbnm$4gd$5...@dough.gmane.org
Re: dumb scanner question
On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 19:51:06 -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote: How does everyone here scan books and magazines into their systems, without destroying said magazines/books? By buying the digital edition? ;-P What type of scanners do you use? Flatbed (yes, the binding suffers), although there are book scanners in the market for that purpose. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssbvd$4gd$6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Backports on Squeeze
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 02:15:42 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: Is it safe to have backports enabled on a stable Squeeze 6.05 system? I'd say now is even safer than before because the backported packages are integrated within the official repositories which should lead to less packages/libraries collisions. Just use it with caution and consider a correct pinning if you are planing of making an intensive use of them. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jsscc5$4gd$7...@dough.gmane.org
Fwd: i386 testing: java not recognizing its libraries and libreoffice and okular not launching
In addition, I have now noticed that even okular does not start anymore after that infamous apt-get update/upgrade with i386 testing: francesco@deb32:~$ okular okular(3765): you need to call Settings::instance before using KCrash: Application 'okular' crashing... KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit sock_file=/home/francesco/.kde/socket-deb32/kdeinit4__0 Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi directly drkonqi(3766): Unable to find an internal debugger that can work with the KCrash backend [1]+ Stopped okular francesco@deb32:~$ -- Forwarded message -- From: Francesco Pietra chiendar...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:52 PM Subject: i386 testing: java not recognizing its libraries and libreoffice not launching To: debian-users debian-user@lists.debian.org Following update/upgrade, java does not recognize libjli.so any more. I had to set LD_LIBRARY... to remedy. Nonetheless, libreoffice does not start any more: francesco@deb32:~$ libreoffice terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException' francesco@deb32:~$ I thought it is a java problem. What else? Incidentally, I turned to AbiWORD for my .dot table. Unless my i386 testing has major problems, that text editor is simply unusable for complex tables. In general, while at the linux prompt Debian works well (in particular amd64 testing, here in use for a GPU-CPU cluster), once gnome is launched installed, problems arise. Too many things that in science are not used, too much done automatically, and often erroneously. I am at gnome simply for gchempaint, other wise there is no decent pdf reader not CD burner, which are useful to any purpose. I had to install okular and k3b, making the complex even more complex. With such stuff as gnome, which even pretends to take care of upgrading, newcomers will not even learn how to mount a device. Thanks for advice about libreoffice francesco pietra PS: I am not at the stable i386 version simply to have a correspondence with testing amd64 which we have to use for recent nvidia drivers for GPU-CPU clusters. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caev0nmvaddngi9wmvevqlqzqouwh+vm2ecan2d9mbt+v7kb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: e1000, only 2 of 4 expected ports available
On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 23:23:35 -0700, Scott Edwards wrote: (please, don't cross-post or at least warn the users about it...) I have a Dell poweredge 850 server with a quad port intel gigabit ethernet pci-x card, but I'm only getting 2 of the 4 expected ports listed. You mean you get only 2 of the 4 ports for both cards, right? The external usb drive used to boot this hasn't deleted the 'auto eth renumbering', so ports for eth0 start at eth11 - eth14. You can re-do the udev rules for the network interface so it starts by eth0 and so on. More diagnostics here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sLivuXo_LizOOzPaTQyyofZ_d5QKDUD9F176b4trREU/edit I haven't seen anything suspect in dmesg. Me neither, it seems the 4 NICs are properly detected. Things I would check: 1/ BIOS (to verify the embedded NICS are not making noise) 2/ Kernel (test with a LiveCD featuring one of the latest kernels available) 3/ dmesg | grep -i eth (for possible driver errors) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssdum$4gd$8...@dough.gmane.org
Linux install bug
Hi, I'd like to start by apologising if this is in the wrong place. I have looked, and not found a beginners/install problems place. Meanwhile I discover this glitch goes back at least to 2005. Please help me recover my faith in Debian/Linux. I'm a 'straight out of the box' user, fail abyssmally to use the command line, find most advice itself incomprehendable - sorry! Used Ubuntu for a while on my not-so-ancient box (Dual 1.8GHz Aspire), but now with constant upgrade it's getting slow. Ran Lubuntu, but various things don't work. I Like debian, and seek to install with Lubuntu, so have partitioned my HD into four chinks of about 50Gb, Successfully installed my earlier Ubuntu 8.10, but no support or upgrade path, so now trying to replace with Debian 6.05 net install. Have burnt two CD's now. Both boot to the first, startup, install page with the little rocket. Very nice. But no mouse or keyboard. I have also an ATI (?) older keyboard plugged in. No response from that. All my kit is bog standard and has worked fine with Debian and Ubuntu in the past. Help! Also, please, someone explain why this slightly fundamental glitch is still present after what ... seven years or more? thanks, i do love Linux ... in theory. Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/46d580a8-bdb9-4482-b2af-929d9746c...@googlegroups.com
Re: CD/DVD diagnostic tools needed
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012, Richard Owlett wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:30:21 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm having various random problems installing from Live CD's. The problems are weird, inconsistent, and intermittent. The first thing is to determine whether or not I have faulty hardware, be it the target box or the box that burns the CD. Optical media is more and more becoming a complete headache. Why? The usual trend is for products to improve as they mature. No. That was true when people valued quality over a few bucks. Nowadays, everything that can be thrown out with just a minimal loss of quality starts to get thrown out when the device gets good enough. You cannot get any good DVD or CD writers anymore, at least not for the definitions of good (extremely low jitter and noise) you once could, for example. Writeable media has the same problem. Heck, you cannot even listen to CD audio with no frequency aliasing, zero bus, and zero cpu usage anymore (i.e. using the analog or digital audio output of the drive itself). The same way that you cannot buy a floppy drive that is worth anything, let alone one that could work in IORDY mode, e.g., for use in the Commodore Amiga. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702154110.gc3...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: Linux install bug
On Monday 02 July 2012 12:51:53 greens...@care4free.net wrote: Also, please, someone explain why this slightly fundamental glitch is still present after what ... seven years or more? I have never had this problem, and have used the 6.0.5 netinstall frequently. Perhaps there is something unusual about your set-up? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201207021651.52972.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: CD/DVD diagnostic tools needed
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 08:37:34 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Camaleón wrote: Optical media is more and more becoming a complete headache. Why? (...) - Because these components are usually poorly manufactured and of very bad quality (mixing plastic with laser that neeed a precise calibration is not a bright good idea...) so it's normal to see them failing with weird and random errors. - Optical media and drives are hard/costly to debug. - Optical media and drives are very slow for today needs and standards. - They are hard and complex to manage because the needing for specific drivers and applications for the OS and the rest of appliances. I'm a slow typist - test install completed without apparent symptoms. Good for you :-) Hmmm - now that I stop and think about it. I believe all observed symptoms revolve around root password not being recognized. If you reached that far it means the problem is not in the installation media but elsewhere. Have you considered installing from USB stick instead? Yes. But by personality I'm the type that will the WHY? of a failure before looking for a workaround. The key here is why what? You seemed to directly point (without providing more data) the origin of the problem to be on the CD medium or drive unit so you will have to ask you why you thought so. What were the exact symptoms? What error did you get? In what stage of the installation appeared? I need two diagnostics: 1. verify what's on the CD matches the ISO from which it was generated. [already have verified that the downloaded MD5SUM matches repository] http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.en.html#verify debian.org reminds me of the original CPM-80 manual, info there but dense in all possible connotations of the word Perhaps I should have specified I was looking for end user friendly tool. There's not such friendly tools for checking CD/DVD optical media. Now you see why I said there were a headache? The best example of this is near us, in our linux world: working and developing with the scsi layer ;-) 2. verify target system reads CD/DVD correctly. (...) Is your CD/DVD reader capable of booting from it? yes Fine then. Now you can check if the unit is also working without problems (reading from/writing to CDs/DVDs) once the system has been installed. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssg10$4gd$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Backports on Squeeze OT question/issue
On 20120702_144837, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 02:15:42 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: Is it safe to have backports enabled on a stable Squeeze 6.05 system? I'd say now is even safer than before because the backported packages are integrated within the official repositories which should lead to less packages/libraries collisions. Just use it with caution and consider a correct pinning if you are planing of making an intensive use of them. Greetings, -- Camaleón This comment is addressed to this thread because it is a question that has puzzled me about squeeze-backports. I know that one must do a special thing, namely -t option in order to actually download and install a backported package, but how does one know of the existance of a backported package. For packages in the general main/squeeze grouping, I have browsed the interactive user interface of Aptitude. Do the backports show up there if I add the line to my sources.list? If no, where do I browse? If yes, how do I know that they are somehow special, and that I need to do more than typing a simple + to select them? The answer may be obvious and innately intuitive, but I have found from experience, intuitive is something that I was told long ago and not remembered until presented with an actual example. I don't think I have been told how to intuit the answers here. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702160949.ga20...@big.lan.gnu
Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?
I'm sorry for the tardy response - IceDove hid a load of Debian list mail in Junk. On 29/06/12 18:06, Camaleón wrote: Maybe is time now for you to tell us more about the kind of VM you are planning to use... Testing on the same subnet :) I still don't see the relation of using N-M and the possibility of having multiple IP addresses :-? There is no direct relationship. Basically, you need eth0 bridged (using br0) to allow other virtual machines to pick up an IP address on your real network. If NM were capable of controlling br0, you could retain the flexibility of using NM for all networking with having the convenience of using various NICs in virtual machines as desired. But evidently NM doesn't manage br0, so you have to drop control of any ethernet functionality and just use NM for wireless. Well, for this scenario, I wouldn't use N-M regardless the linux distribution, not just Debian. N-M is aimed for laptops or mobile devices. I'm using a laptop :) Would this second interface have to physically exist? For a true bridge, I guess yes :-) 'Nuff said :) Cheers, -- Steve Dowe Warp Universal Limited http://warp2.me/sd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1c8ca.7090...@warpuniversal.co.uk
Re: Linux install bug
On 02/07/12 07:51 AM, greens...@care4free.net wrote: Hi, I'd like to start by apologising if this is in the wrong place. I have looked, and not found a beginners/install problems place. Meanwhile I discover this glitch goes back at least to 2005. Please help me recover my faith in Debian/Linux. I'm a 'straight out of the box' user, fail abyssmally to use the command line, find most advice itself incomprehendable - sorry! Used Ubuntu for a while on my not-so-ancient box (Dual 1.8GHz Aspire), but now with constant upgrade it's getting slow. Ran Lubuntu, but various things don't work. I Like debian, and seek to install with Lubuntu, so have partitioned my HD into four chinks of about 50Gb, Successfully installed my earlier Ubuntu 8.10, but no support or upgrade path, so now trying to replace with Debian 6.05 net install. Have burnt two CD's now. Both boot to the first, startup, install page with the little rocket. Very nice. But no mouse or keyboard. I have also an ATI (?) older keyboard plugged in. No response from that. All my kit is bog standard and has worked fine with Debian and Ubuntu in the past. Help! Also, please, someone explain why this slightly fundamental glitch is still present after what ... seven years or more? thanks, i do love Linux ... in theory. Tony Are you sure your install CD is good? Did you check the .iso against the MD5 checksum? Upgrading Ubuntu is a little painful. You really need to commit to either upgrading every six months for the regular releases or every other year for the LTS release. However, you may have some luck editing /etc/apt/sources.list, replacing the 8.10 code name with the current (precise) one, then doing: sudo bash apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1cb5a.8050...@rogers.com
Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?
On 29/06/12 17:34, Neal Murphy wrote: (...) another program running whose sole purpose is to slurp CPU cycles, take up screen real estate I'm all for machine efficiency, but I don't find NM to do either of those. On a laptop, I find it sacrifices my human efficiency to /not/ have it. and make me click-click-click...click-click-click-click to - great description, though :) find what 'ip addr' would tell me. And if you are running a bunch of VMs, you've moved beyond the utility of N-M; you do not want it controlling your network. Yes, I'm learning that this is clearly the case. You're doing pretty much what I do. I have four bridges (but only 3 NICs: one bridge goes nowhere) for testing my firewalls (RED/GREEN/PURPLE/ORANGE). I can have a number of firewalls running in KVMs, attached to any combination of four bridges. I can direct Squeeze's default route to any of them or to the bridge direct to my perimeter F/W. Most of this could be achieved over a virtual network, though, couldn't it? I would use a virtual network for firewall testing. I need real network IPs for using real network resources, e.g. grabbing something off a local server over NFS. The bridge device (e.g. br0) is a network interface. The NIC is a network interface. The tap device (e.g. tap0) appears as a network interface to the VM. A bridge device doesn't need a real NIC to operate. It's perfectly happy to bridge zero or more taps to itself. The host doesn't need to actively use a brX device (with IP address, et al) for it to bridge VMs together. I'm trying to get my head around this. I need to read more on this subject. :) Kernel- wise, a bridge device is very similar to a run-of-the-mill 8-port ethernet switch: it bridges whatever is connected to it. Or it sits idle when it has no member devices other than itself. One thing that becomes apparent with (GNU/)Linux is the sheer number of networking options that it's capable of. The ability to simulate complex networks, for instance. Thanks. -- Steve Dowe Warp Universal Limited http://warp2.me/sd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1cca8.5010...@warpuniversal.co.uk
Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:14:02 +0100, Steve Dowe wrote: I'm sorry for the tardy response - IceDove hid a load of Debian list mail in Junk. On 29/06/12 18:06, Camaleón wrote: Maybe is time now for you to tell us more about the kind of VM you are planning to use... Testing on the same subnet :) Yes but what solution? KVM, VMware, Xen, VirtualBox... I still don't see the relation of using N-M and the possibility of having multiple IP addresses :-? There is no direct relationship. Basically, you need eth0 bridged (using br0) to allow other virtual machines to pick up an IP address on your real network. Well, not in VirtualBox (or not at least not when using a windows host), that should be a requirement coming from whatever VM solution are you using. If NM were capable of controlling br0, you could retain the flexibility of using NM for all networking with having the convenience of using various NICs in virtual machines as desired. But evidently NM doesn't manage br0, so you have to drop control of any ethernet functionality and just use NM for wireless. You will get more flexibility (and reliability) when using /etc/ networking/interfaces :-) Well, for this scenario, I wouldn't use N-M regardless the linux distribution, not just Debian. N-M is aimed for laptops or mobile devices. I'm using a laptop :) A laptop with server-like advanced networking/routing needings is so not a plain laptop with two/tree NICs (ethernet, wireless and umts, for instance) ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssijc$4gd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Backports on Squeeze
On Monday 02 July 2012 03:46:30 Mika Suomalainen wrote: Hi, On 02.07.2012 03:15, Mark Panen wrote: Hi, Is it safe to have backports enabled on a stable Squeeze 6.05 system? I have them enabled on stable Squeeze system and I know some other people too and we haven't experienced any problems. By default when you add the backports sources.list line, nothing is installed from it automatically unless you run aptitude install -t squeeze-backports package. We have also set backports to priority 500 so everything is installed from them automatically if it contains newer packages than Squeeze main repositories. Note that some people say that this is more dangerous than running Debian Unstable (currently Wheezy) and you are doing this with your own risk. Our sources.list lines: ``` deb http://http.debian.net/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free ``` Our /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports: ``` Package: * Pin: release a=squeeze-backports Pin-Priority: 500 ``` Remember that you are enabling Backports with your own risk in case you decide to enable them. I second that. Especially when trying to install newer kernels from backports. Recently I had problems when 3.2. kernel upgrade from backports lead to deinstalling initramfs-tools. DON'T! Trying to upgrade the underlying libraries rapidly led me into dependency- hell. I decided to stay with 2.6.38 kernel from backports. [pidgin french] Vive la sauvegard du système d'exploitation! [/pidgin french] Backports is OK IMHO as long as you limit yourself to applications and if you know how to fall back to stable versions if something goes wrong but leave the main system alone unless you really want to learn to be an expert and to know the Debian package system intimately. There are workable upgrade paths for one stable release to the other, even upgrading stable to testing is usually quite painless but backports can rarely provide such convenience. My 2 cents worth Cheers Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Casilla de Correo 1519 1209 Asuncion / Paraguay Cell-Phone: +595-971-696909 City people: To see these men in the daylight hours down town one would think they cared more for a minute than for their eternal happyness. (Will Lillibridge) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201207021248.36541.zp6...@gmx.net
Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?
On 29/06/12 23:47, Chris Davies wrote: Steve Dowe s...@warpuniversal.co.uk wrote: The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian wiki etc, NetworkManager can no longer manage my wired ethernet connection. You can't do that :-( That was almost the right answer ;) If you need a bridge (like I do), AFAIK the only two solutions are: - uninstall network manager and return to using /etc/network/interfaces - add the missing code to network manager I'm trying to decide what's more tempting... I have tried various ways of persuading NM that it wants to control my bridged interface instead of the physical one, and it really won't play ball. I had wanted to try and keep NM on my laptop because it does wireless better than my previous home-grown solutions. But I've had to unmanage my wired NIC and now NM tries really hard to bring up the wireless interface each time someone logs in. I like the ease with which I can configure (and test) VPNs for clients Oh well. I suppose I should be glad I'm not alone. But it doesn't really help you, does it. No... but as you say, knowing the there might be a reasonable use case for controlling a bridged ethernet device means there may be a solution, one day. -- Steve Dowe Warp Universal http://warp2.me/sd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1d31d.3080...@warpuniversal.co.uk
Re: Blog Post re libav vs ffmpeg
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:31:31 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: Interesting blog-post here (1) on the controversy. Any particular reason why Debian decided to go the libav route My wild guess is that because it will be easier to maintain and debug. But there was a response here coming from one of the libav Debian package maintainers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2011-December/023070.html and what about the quote in the article where it mentions that the Debian Packager is spreading misinformation? (...) The warning seems fine to me. What is what you don't like from here? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssk0f$4gd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: i386 testing: java not recognizing its libraries and libreoffice not launching
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 15:52:59 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: Following update/upgrade, java does not recognize libjli.so any more. I had to set LD_LIBRARY... to remedy. Nonetheless, libreoffice does not start any more: francesco@deb32:~$ libreoffice terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException' francesco@deb32:~$ I thought it is a java problem. What else? (...) A bug? :-) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=678532 Although it is marked as solved since version (3.5.3), check if any of the hints given there it helps in your case. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jsskmq$4gd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: startup script
Thanks, rjc, for a very informative post. Unfortunately, my setup (Stock Debian 6.0.5) doesn't seem to agree with your description. On 01/07/12 19:31, rjc wrote: The reason I asked here is because I previously tried doing exactly what you suggest by putting a link in ~/.kde/Autostart to the script, but it doesn't appear to work. In KDE4 the directory in question is $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/autostart [0] or $KDEHOME/Autostart [1]. Neither of those variables is set here, so ~/.config/autostart looks promising. Sadly, putting the link to my script in there doesn't cause it to be run on login. As mentioned, I have a link to that script in ~/kde/autostart. Unfortunately it doesn't autostart. And it won't. Why not? You chastise me for giving insufficient information, but you're equally terse ;) Excuse the typo; it should have read ~/kde/Autostart. Someone else suggested using the inbuilt KDE autostart tool. That does actually work, so Im out of the woods, but I'd dearly love to know how it works. Thank you very much for the suggestion. P.S. If you'd like your script to run both from X and console login, put it in KDE's autostart folder and run it from .bash_profile, .bash_login or .profile (in that order as Bash will stop searching for the other ones after the first success - told you it's a bit of a mess ;^) OK, thanks for the information; I'll try to get it working for KDE login first. [0] if $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is not set it defaults to $HOME/.config [1] if $KDEHOME is not set it defaults to $HOME/.kde4 $KDEHOME is not set, but I have no kde4 directory. [2] http://shreevatsa.wordpress.com/2008/03/30/zshbash-startup-files-loading-order-bashrc-zshrc-etc/ [3] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Ariège, France | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1d705.2070...@vanderhoff.org
Re: Fwd: i386 testing: java not recognizing its libraries and libreoffice and okular not launching
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:11:38 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: In addition, I have now noticed that even okular does not start anymore after that infamous apt-get update/upgrade with i386 testing: francesco@deb32:~$ okular okular(3765): you need to call Settings::instance before using KCrash: Application 'okular' crashing... (...) Hints: - Try from a clean profile (a new created user account). - Did you restart the system after the update? This can sound weird in linux but I find it helps a lot when using the big desktops (like KDE4 or GNOME3) to power-cycle their D-Bus/socket/pipes thingies. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssl8j$4gd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?
On 02/07/12 17:34, Camaleón wrote: Testing on the same subnet :) Yes but what solution? KVM, VMware, Xen, VirtualBox... Oh heck, sorry. It's KVM. I thought I'd mentioned that. Oops. Basically, you need eth0 bridged (using br0) to allow other virtual machines to pick up an IP address on your real network. Well, not in VirtualBox (or not at least not when using a windows host), that should be a requirement coming from whatever VM solution are you using. It sounds like VirtualBox simply takes care of that for you, on Windows. You will get more flexibility (and reliability) when using /etc/ networking/interfaces :-) Looks like man 5 interfaces is my friend :) A laptop with server-like advanced networking/routing needings is so not a plain laptop with two/tree NICs (ethernet, wireless and umts, for instance) ;-) True enough. -- Steve Dowe Warp Universal http://warp2.me/sd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1d96e.2000...@warpuniversal.co.uk
Re: Backports on Squeeze OT question/issue
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:09:49 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20120702_144837, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 02:15:42 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: Is it safe to have backports enabled on a stable Squeeze 6.05 system? I'd say now is even safer than before because the backported packages are integrated within the official repositories which should lead to less packages/libraries collisions. Just use it with caution and consider a correct pinning if you are planing of making an intensive use of them. This comment is addressed to this thread because it is a question that has puzzled me about squeeze-backports. I know that one must do a special thing, namely -t option in order to actually download and install a backported package, For installing single packages, yes, -t should be enough. Otherwise, pinning (prioritize backports over the standard repositories) should be more convenient. but how does one know of the existance of a backported package. As usual, you go to the online search and type the name of the package. If there's a backport counterpart it will listed there. You can also query from here: http://backports-master.debian.org/Packages/ For packages in the general main/squeeze grouping, I have browsed the interactive user interface of Aptitude. Do the backports show up there if I add the line to my sources.list? If no, where do I browse? If yes, how do I know that they are somehow special, and that I need to do more than typing a simple + to select them? (...) I don't use the backport repositories but I guess yes, if you have it listed in your sources.list the queries (e.g., apt-search) should also provide the versions of the packages available in the backports. Anyway, I prefer to use the web search instead, I feel more confortable with the online interface where I can get extra information for the packages. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jssm2r$4gd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: startup script
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 06:14:45PM BST, Tony van der Hoff wrote: As mentioned, I have a link to that script in ~/kde/autostart. Unfortunately it doesn't autostart. And it won't. Why not? You chastise me for giving insufficient information, but you're equally terse ;) Sorry, didn't mean to be abrupt ;^) Someone else suggested using the inbuilt KDE autostart tool. That does actually work, so Im out of the woods, but I'd dearly love to know how it works. Thank you very much for the suggestion. [...] [0] if $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is not set it defaults to $HOME/.config [1] if $KDEHOME is not set it defaults to $HOME/.kde4 $KDEHOME is not set, but I have no kde4 directory. Hmmm... I assumed it'll be there since KDE4 is the version in Squeeze. Try here: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kcontrol/autostart/index.html Regards, -- rjc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702183929.ga23...@linuxstuff.pl
getting gnome 3
Hi. Ok, I give up installing wheezy now, since it doesn't work. Is there an easy way to install gnome 3 and the latest packages in squeeze? Because that I can install. /Kristoffer
TLS encrypted source for Debian iso signing keys?
Is there any TLS encrypted source for downloading the Debian iso signing keys? Of course, from a source verified by a common root certificate. Not from the Debian CA, because there is no way to get this one from a trusted source either, or is there? If the answer is no, which were to correct component to file a bug against? -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1341254055.13900.140661096906105.78ee7...@webmail.messagingengine.com
Re: startup script
On 02/07/12 20:39, rjc wrote: Try here: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kcontrol/autostart/index.html Ah, thanks. -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Ariège, France | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1fb6e.7070...@vanderhoff.org
Re: TLS encrypted source for Debian iso signing keys?
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 11:34:15AM -0700, anots...@fastmail.fm wrote: Is there any TLS encrypted source for downloading the Debian iso signing keys? Of course, from a source verified by a common root certificate. Not from the Debian CA, because there is no way to get this one from a trusted source either, or is there? The ISO images, like the rest of the archive, are signed using OpenPGP (GnuPG) signatures. You can obtain the signing key from db.debian.org or the public keyservers. If the answer is no, which were to correct component to file a bug against? None. The signing is rather more secure than what a TLS connection would give you. It's signed by a number of Debian developers, and backed by the entire web of trust (many thousands of signatures). You don't need to download the signing (public) key securely in order to validate that you have the correct one--it's not rooted in a single place. If you go and meet some developers and sign each other's keys, you can be a part of this web of trust. i.e. trace the signature all the way back to *your* key. This is real trust, based upon real people trusting each other, rather than just having some purchased certificate--how much trust do you place in one of those? Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702200614.ge4...@codelibre.net
Re: Backports on Squeeze
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 12:48:36PM -0400, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Monday 02 July 2012 03:46:30 Mika Suomalainen wrote: Remember that you are enabling Backports with your own risk in case you decide to enable them. I second that. Especially when trying to install newer kernels from backports. Recently I had problems when 3.2. kernel upgrade from backports lead to deinstalling initramfs-tools. DON'T! Not sure I can agree with that, I've installed the 3.2 kernel from backports on two machines with no problems at all. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
ot: slightly, is debian tied to a nonprofit?
I ask because of the references to foundation? Alfi for a possible funding project tied to a thread from a different Linux users list. Thanks, Karen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1207021622170.14...@server1.shellworld.net
Re: ot: slightly, is debian tied to a nonprofit?
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.netwrote: I ask because of the references to foundation? Software in the Public Interest, Inc.
Re: ot: slightly, is debian tied to a nonprofit?
If that is the name of the nonprofit, thanks. Karen On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.netwrote: I ask because of the references to foundation? Software in the Public Interest, Inc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1207021635350.14...@server1.shellworld.net
Re: TLS encrypted source for Debian iso signing keys?
anots...@fastmail.fm: Is there any TLS encrypted source for downloading the Debian iso signing keys? None that I know of, but I don't see a need for that either. Sure, you could use one of the built-in certificates in your browser to bootstrap the chain of trust to the signing keys. But that's not how PGP is designed. If you don't own a PGP key that is somehow connected to the Debian signing key, you can do something like this: - Fetch the ISO + signature file (MD5SUMS, MD5SUMS.sign) - Fetch the key used to sign the ISO and verify the signature - See how this key is connected to other keys you may have reason to trust (e.g. because you already have software installed that is signed by a key that also signed the key used to sign the ISO) The last step is a little awkward and unfortunately I didn't find a (functional) web page that helps in tracking down trust paths easily. The sites I found are either broken or use a hopelessly outdated key set. On the other hand, the model used by SSL/TLS depends on you trusting all of the various, mostly unknown entities that somehow managed to have their certificate shipped by your browser vendor. Remember that there's no limit on which sites a certificate my sign. The past two years have shown that this security model does not deserve as much trust as people put into it. If the answer is no, which were to correct component to file a bug against? If I were to file this bug I would report it against d-i. But I don't think it will be solved in a satisfying way for you. What I find more interesting is that the key 0x6294BE9B (Debian CD signing key) only has nine signatures and only one from someone using his official @debian org address (0x3442684E, Steve McIntyre). That could surely be improved. I am a little bit disappointed to learn that even my fairly well-connected key doesn't help in finding a trust path to the CD signing key. J. -- If politics is the blind leading the blind, entertainment is the fucked- up leading the hypnotised. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: TLS encrypted source for Debian iso signing keys?
I still do believe a TLS encrypted source to obtain the iso signing keys is necessary. What about the people who live many miles away from the next developer? Someone living on an isle should take the next flight just to get the gpg keys? What about the people who are unable to meet with the next developer? Example: Disabled ones or poor ones (journeys are expensive), etc... The root CA's are not that bad. How many people do not get MITMed while doing stuff like online banking... Scammers use (spear)fishing, breaks in root CA's happen but are rare. There are already free (as in free beer) root CA's (startssl). It won't cost anything but requesting and installing the free certificate. Without scarifying anything else. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1341263288.14324.140661096968789.42bd2...@webmail.messagingengine.com
Re: TLS encrypted source for Debian iso signing keys?
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 10:49:14PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: What I find more interesting is that the key 0x6294BE9B (Debian CD signing key) only has nine signatures and only one from someone using his official @debian org address (0x3442684E, Steve McIntyre). That could surely be improved. I am a little bit disappointed to learn that even my fairly well-connected key doesn't help in finding a trust path to the CD signing key. % gpg --list-sigs 6294BE9B pub 4096R/6294BE9B 2011-01-05 uid Debian CD signing key debian...@lists.debian.org sig 1B3045CE 2011-01-07 Colin Tuckley co...@tuckley.org sig 3442684E 2011-01-05 Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com sig A40F862E 2011-01-05 Neil McGovern n...@halon.org.uk sig C542CD59 2011-01-05 Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk sig 63C7CC90 2011-01-05 Simon McVittie s...@pseudorandom.co.uk sig 36294BE9B 2011-01-05 Debian CD signing key debian...@lists.debian.org sub 4096R/11CD9819 2011-01-05 sig 6294BE9B 2011-01-05 Debian CD signing key debian...@lists.debian.org All of the above named individuals are Debian developers. Note that the UID shown is just one of several on their key: % gpg --list-keys 1B3045CE 3442684E A40F862E C542CD59 63C7CC90 pub 1024D/1B3045CE 1999-07-09 uid Colin Tuckley co...@tuckley.org uid [jpeg image of size 2652] uid Colin Tuckley col...@debian.org sub 2048g/5C5B9D12 1999-07-09 pub 4096R/3442684E 2009-05-09 uid Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com uid Steve McIntyre 93...@debian.org uid Steve McIntyre ste...@chiark.greenend.org.uk sub 4096R/E2C26E29 2009-05-09 pub 4096R/A40F862E 2009-05-11 uid Neil McGovern n...@halon.org.uk uid Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org uid Neil McGovern neil.mcgov...@collabora.com sub 4096R/B999855D 2009-05-11 pub 4096R/C542CD59 2009-07-11 uid Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk uid Adam D. Barratt a...@debian.org uid Adam D. Barratt a...@funky-badger.org sub 4096R/EC0E8DA0 2009-07-11 pub 4096R/63C7CC90 2009-05-08 uid Simon McVittie s...@pseudorandom.co.uk uid Simon McVittie s...@debian.org uid Simon James McVittie (born 1983-08-25) uid Simon McVittie simon.mcvit...@collabora.co.uk sub 4096R/20FB245D 2009-05-08 [expires: 2019-05-06] Of these, I have signed Steve's key from when we met in Cambridge earlier in the year, and I also signed Colin's new key (38C9D903) but this isn't yet being used. So I am just two hops to the key in the web of trust. I'm probably just another hop or two by all the other keys, since I signed Adam and Simon's older keys, and I also have lots of paths to the keys via other people's keys. Even if I had never met any of these people personally, I'd still only be three or four hops away. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702213712.gh4...@codelibre.net
Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?
On Monday 02 July 2012 12:30:32 Steve Dowe wrote: On 29/06/12 17:34, Neal Murphy wrote: The bridge device (e.g. br0) is a network interface. The NIC is a network interface. The tap device (e.g. tap0) appears as a network interface to the VM. A bridge device doesn't need a real NIC to operate. It's perfectly happy to bridge zero or more taps to itself. The host doesn't need to actively use a brX device (with IP address, et al) for it to bridge VMs together. I'm trying to get my head around this. I need to read more on this subject. :) Think of a bridge (br0) as a length of wire that you create with the command 'brctl addbr br0'. The br0 IF is a wire from the host Linux to the bridge. Now you start a KVM session with a tun/tap virtual NIC. That tap device is another wire, this time between the bridge and the VM. At this point, your host Linux and your VM can communicate across the bridge, but nowhere else. Configure them with DHCP or staticly and you'll have them gabbing TCP/IP. But, you lament, I want to talk to the outside world! So now add a real NIC as a member device using 'brctl addif br0 eth0'. This appears as a wire between the bridge and the NIC. Eight violas! Your host Linux's br0 and each VM's virtual NIC can now also talk to the outside world. Configure them with DHCP or staticly and they'll be talking TCP/IP with the planet. Now, let's change the scenario a bit. Suppose you need a new network switch but haven't the cash. But you *do* have a system with four dual-port NICs. So install a basic GNU/Linux distro with brctl, create a bridge (brctl addbr br0) and add all eight NICs to the bridge (for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7; do brctl addif br0 eth$i; done). Plug the computers' net cables in (assuming you have polarity-sensing NICs and/or crossover cables). You now have a functioning 8- port switch. Not so good, it uses a lot more electrons that a real switch. Also not so good, it won't do anything about loops. Better, your GNU/Linux host is invisible. Best, you can monitor and/or log all traffic crossing your switch and no one will be the wiser. Now add a spanning tree protocol (STP) daemon. Your switch will become slightly translucent, but will help block loops that could be used with bad intent. To be sure, the wire metaphor isn't wholly true; it'd be more like an old- timey hub where each node sees all traffic. A proper bridge device should limit traffic to the two endpoints (and to the host's brX device). And, like the bullets at the surreal OK Corral, all the 'wire' I mentioned is not real; the bridge is entirely virtual, consisting of naught but bits. I wrote my own KVM control script because I wanted to explicitly control various aspects of the taps and bridges. Each VM's virtual NIC MAC address encodes the VM instance and the attached tap instance; I know which VM it is and which bridge the NIC is connected to (in MAC addr byte 6, 0-3 is always RD/GN/PU/OR, respectively, regardless of how many or how few virt NICs I assign to a VM): -- 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,NOTRAILERS,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 \ qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 52:54:00:00:63:00 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.20.30.194/24 brd 10.20.30.255 scope global eth0 3: eth1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast \ state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 52:54:00:00:63:01 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.99.1.1/24 brd 10.99.1.255 scope global eth1 4: eth2: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast \ state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 52:54:00:00:63:02 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.99.2.1/24 brd 10.99.2.255 scope global eth2 5: eth3: BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000 link/ether 52:54:00:00:63:03 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff -- On the host, the tap name encodes the bridge name and the VM instance: -- 13: tapRD0063: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 \ qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 500 link/ether 3e:61:17:12:c4:7a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::3c61:17ff:fe12:c47a/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 14: tapGN0063: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 \ qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 500 link/ether e2:80:25:09:24:89 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::e080:25ff:fe09:2489/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 15: tapOR0063: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC mtu 1500 qdisc noop \ state DOWN qlen 500 link/ether e6:5c:11:b1:67:f9 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 16: tapPU0063: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 \ qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 500 link/ether 2e:b2:04:e0:98:98 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::2cb2:4ff:fee0:9898/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever -- Also on the host, I gave the bridges meaningful names: -- 5: RED: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state
Re: TLS encrypted source for Debian iso signing keys?
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 02:08:08PM -0700, anots...@fastmail.fm wrote: I still do believe a TLS encrypted source to obtain the iso signing keys is necessary. TLS encryption means that - what travels over the connection is encrypted, and in theory only decryptable at the two endpoints - the identity of the endpoints are authenticated by possession of certificates Neither of these gives you any means of validating the provenance of the data which you receive. The GPG signatures let you validate that the content that you downloaded has not been tampered with since it was signed and that it is bit-for-bit identical with what the authors signed. But you could download it from anywhere, even an untrusted source, and still be able to validate that it was the genuine article. What about the people who live many miles away from the next developer? Someone living on an isle should take the next flight just to get the gpg keys? No necessarily. Suppose you have a friend who has been to a conference and exchanged signatures with the people he met there. You can exchange signatures with your friend, and because you trust him, you also trust the people he trusts. This is the principle for how the web of trust operates. But meeting people directly means you can place a higher level of trust in them, so it is desirable to do so. I spent a day travelling to Manchester from my home town to get my GPG key signed by a Debian developer so I could initially join the project. And I subsequetly built up a collection of many tens of signatures over the course of a decade, mainly from UK developers, but also from people in the US, Europe etc. This is the point of the web of trust--it's strong because it's based upon physical interaction with other people and validating their identities. I can trust that this key is genuine because I've met several people, who met other people, who met Steve, Colin, Adam, etc., who then signed the archive signing key. That is exceedingly difficult to fake. The root CA's are not that bad. How many people do not get MITMed while doing stuff like online banking... Scammers use (spear)fishing, breaks in root CA's happen but are rare. As I said above, these are generally used to solve a different problem. The actual ISO image is not signed with the certificate, so the CA and TLS gives you nothing. But (going off-topic), breaks in CAs do happen, and they issue certificates to anyone who can pay, doing very little validation. The security they provide is mostly illusory. If you could download the signing keys over TLS, what would that *really* mean? The answer is, outside the connection being encrypted, not much, really. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120702215438.gi4...@codelibre.net
Re: ot: slightly, is debian tied to a nonprofit?
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 04:36:10PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: If that is the name of the nonprofit, thanks. Karen On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.netwrote: I ask because of the references to foundation? Software in the Public Interest, Inc. That IS the name of the non-profit. Here's the website: http://www.spi-inc.org/ tony -- http://www.tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time! 3F330C6E signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Three problems with TDE 3.5.13 ?Bugs?
Soory, Slávek. I didn't mean it to go to you. I had the following 3 problems with a 3.5.13 installation with Slávek's patches. Suggestions for solutions? 1st When I tried to install kaffeine: kaffeine-trinity? I looked for it before trying to install, so got it right, but I am not sure now. I can give no other useful information. I have not managed to capture the error message, and the computer concerned is 10 miles and an ocean of antibiotics away. It seems likely therefore that this is insoluble for now. 2nd Flash, which was working, suddenly stopped working. I.e., where things had displayed and played correctly, the error message that came up on the website was: quote Alert icon You need to upgrade your Adobe Flash Player to watch this video. Download it from Adobe. /quote But Flash is as up-to-date as is possible on Debian. 3rd quoteFailed to update the old Database to the new Database format This error can happen if the Album Path '/home/john/Pictures' does not exist or is write-protected. If you have moved your photo collection, you need to adjust the 'Album Path' in digikam's configuration file.rd Attempts to run DigiKam produce the following error message: /quote There is a database folder in the .digikam folder. The name includes the numeral 3. Not much info, I know. But unfortunately, as I said, the computer is 10 miles away and I am temporarily housebound. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201207022317.12756.lisi.re...@gmail.com
