Re: HS Important défaut de Gimp-2.8
Mais si tu as ouvert une image png ou gif ou autre, avec gimp 2.8, tu as l'option Ecraser l'image qui répond à ton besoin non ? Donc tu n'es pas obligé d'enregistrer le xcf ... C'est théoriquement exact, effectivement... Je le pensais et j'ai donc paramétré un raccourci clavier pour écraser le fichier. Cela marche la première fois, ensuite, plus rien. Bug ? Les fois suivantes ( Exporter vers monfichier.png) avec le raccourci Ctrl-E Le choix actuel des développeurs gimp me parait bien plus efficace. Tu peux en même temps travailler en xcf (enregistrer avec ctrl S) si tu le souhaites tout en sauvegardant d'une touche dans les formats limités (png, gif, jpeg) d'une touche aussi (ctrl E) sauf la 1ere fois ou tu utilises l'option écraser l'image. Pour moi, c'est bien supérieur à ce qui existait en 2.6 Mais il est possible que tu sois victime d'un bug (absence de l'option ctrl-e), dans ce cas je te suggère de faire un rapport de bug. Cordialement, Guy -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502df7c1.4050...@teledetection.fr
Re: Alternatives x-window-manager, x-session-manager
Le mercredi 15 août 2012 08:49:29, moi-meme a écrit : [...] donc il faut appeler x-windows-manager et pas kde. Donc revoir le lanceur et AMHA il n'appelle certainement pas x-windows-manager. Je ne comprends pas cette phrase ! Quand tu dis « il faut appeler... », ma question est justement qui est ce « il » ? Pas kdm ni startx qui chez moi lancent tous les deux kde alors que mon x-window-manager pointe vers enligtenment_start ! Où ce x-window-manager est-il utilisé dans le système ? Pourquoi ne semble-t-il avoir aucun effet sur le comportement par défaut de startx ? je m'égare peut-être. n'y a t'il pas dans kdm un choix du WM à lancer ? J'ai cela dans gdm. C'est peut-être là qu'il faut chercher Oui, bien entendu, kdm permet de choisir le type de session à lancer. Après avoir un peu fouillé, à chaque session possible correspond un fichier dans /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/ Par exemple, si on choisit e17, le fichier /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/enlightenment.desktop contient la ligne Exec=enlightenment_start qui ne fait donc pas appel aux alternatives mais directement au programme associé à la session que l'on veut lancer. Cette façon de faire me semble parfaitement logique. Par contre, dans le choix de sessions de kdm il y a aussi « défaut (dernier utilisé) ». Après plusieurs tests, ce dernier utilisé n'est pas correct chez moi. En effet, si je ne précise pas la session que je veux, alors kdm me lance la dernière utilisée. Si je choisis la session par défaut, kdm me lance toujours kde même si, avant, j'avais utilisé e17. Chez moi, cette session par défaut ne correspond pas à un fichier dans /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/ Par contre, le fichier /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc contient la ligne Session=/etc/kde4/kdm/Xsession et ce fichier /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsession source /etc/X11/Xsession qui finira par utiliser le /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50x11-common_determine-startup dont j'avais parlé plus bas. En ce sens, on peut donc dire que la session par défaut de kdm utilise x- window-manager (s'il n'y a ni variable STARTUP ni x-session-manager). Tout comme startx d'ailleurs puis que tous les deux le font par l'intermédiaire de xsession. -snip Quand à la lecture de /usr/bin/startx : quel sac de noeuds ! Aucune mention de x-window-manager là-dedans mais vu tous les fichiers sourcés ou exécutés en cascade... +1 Enfin, finalement je vois que c'est dans le fichier /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50x11-common_determine-startup que les choses se décident. Si je comprends bien, on cherche d'abord à utiliser la variable STARTUP qui autait pu être passée par le DM si on en utilise un. Sinon, c'est x-session-manager qui est utilisé et si ce dernier n'existe pas alors c'est x-window-manager. quand on merde comme cela et que ce n'est pas pour de la production, je suis partisan de faire violent : copie de sauvegarde des fichiers et modification directe et violente (goret) par des valeurs en dur. Moi je n'aime pas trop aller modifier des fichiers qui de toute évidence ne sont pas prévus pour. Après c'est la liberté de chacun de faire ce qu'il veut avec sa machine. Moi, mes compétences sont trop limitées pour prétendre arriver à mieux sur un coup de tête que ce que les développeurs ont mûrement réfléchi (j'espère). ---snip-- Vu la priorité de x-session-manager sur x-window-manager au startx, il serait judicieux que enlightenment_start soit aussi une alternative à x-session-manager. Non ? tenter update-alternative --set ? Ça je n'y parviens pas : # update-alternatives --set x-session-manager /usr/bin/enlightenment_start update-alternatives: erreur: l'alternative /usr/bin/enlightenment_start pour x-session-manager n'est pas enregistrée, pas de configuration. Logique : ce --set ne permet rien de plus que le --config mais le fait en mode non interactif. Il faut donc que l'alternative existe. Par contre effectivement, il est possible d'utiliser update-alternatives --install pour créer soi-même de nouvelles alternatives. (Mais je n'ai pas le temps d'essayer). Cette absence est-elle volontaire (pourquoi) ? Un oubli (les paquets e17 sont sûrement encore jeunes) ? Un bug ? tout le monde n'utilise pas alternatives. C'est au bon vouloir des développeurs. Alors cela justifie peut-être un bug mineur (à classer dans la wish list). En tout cas, grâce à toi j'ai fini par comprendre et obtenir des réponses à mes questions. Merci beaucoup. -- Eddy F. http://daysf...@tumblr.com -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208171141.14457.edfnet-...@yahoo.fr
Re: Alternatives x-window-manager, x-session-manager
Salut, Le vendredi 17 août 2012 à 11:41, Eddy F. a écrit : Par contre, dans le choix de sessions de kdm il y a aussi « défaut (dernier utilisé) ». Après plusieurs tests, ce dernier utilisé n'est pas correct chez moi. En effet, si je ne précise pas la session que je veux, alors kdm me lance la dernière utilisée. Si je choisis la session par défaut, kdm me lance toujours kde même si, avant, j'avais utilisé e17. Il me semble que la dernière session utilisée est enregistrée dans le fichier « .dmrc » de ton dossier personnel. Le mien contient deux lignes : [Desktop] Session=xfce Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817122051.ga7...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Re: Alternatives x-window-manager, x-session-manager
Bonjour, Pour installer une alternative vers e17 avec une priorité 90 (par exemple) update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-session-manager x-session-manager /usr/bin/enlightenment_start 90 Ensuite ta commande --set fonctionnera # update-alternatives --set x-session-manager /usr/bin/enlightenment_start -- Cordialement, Steve Fouchet -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e6ae4.4050...@gmail.com
Re: PC éteint qui consomme
On 08/16/2012 06:27 PM, François Boisson wrote: Bonjour la liste, J'ai la chance d'avoir un Toshiba Portege sous Debia/Wheezy et un Toshiba satellite (A500 je crois) désormais sous Wheezy. Le second est essentiellement sous secteur mais le premier vue son autonomie est souvent sous batterie. J'ai constaté plusieurs fois que la charge de la batterie du portege baissait au cours de la nuit. Cela m'a étonné car lorsque mon toshiba sattelite était sous Squeeze, la charge de la batterie se conservait pendant les vacances (je ne prends pas de portables en vacances),. J'ai donc fait les expériences suivantes: * Les deux Toshiba sous wheezy, allumés et arrêtés sous Wheezy laissés quelques jours: la charge de la batterie baisse considérablement et constamment. En attendant assez longtemps, on arrive à une charge de 0% partant d'une batterie à 100%. (Baisse de 8-10% en une nuit pour le portege) * Le Toshiba portége, allumé sous Windows 7 puis aussitôt éteint, conserve sa charge à 100% pendant des jours. Il y a donc un souci spécifique à la Wheezy. Je pense (mais n'ai pas la preuve) que ce souci n'existait pas sous Squeeze. Bonjour J'utilise un vieux portable (6-7 ans) avec Wheezy. Batterie d'origine, aucune décharge, même après une semaine de repos. Noyau compilé maison 3.4.8. Peut-être vérifier paramétrage options du noyau ou changer le noyau ? En fait si le power est off, le noyau n'agit plus. Peut-être vérifier que la batterie charge bien avec Wheezy ? Le 100% de charge est il vraiment 100%. Pas simple Amicalement -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e73af.1080...@gmail.com
Re: PC éteint qui consomme
Bonjour, A tout hasard, as tu essayé de désactivé la carte wifi via la bios ? * Il reste le WIFI, là je n'ai pas trop d'idées pour vérifier que le WIFI n'est pas actif. À tout hasard, j'ai rajouté dans /etc/init.d/wicd lors de l'arrêt ifconfig eth0 down et ifconfig wlan0 down mais (comme prévu), ça n'a pas changé les choses. À ce stade je sèche et ça m'énerve, être obliger d'éteindre discrètement sa machine en passant par windows 7 pour ne pas perdre de la batterie du portege ou trouver un argument bidon pour justifier le retrait de la batterie du Toshiba satellite est plutôt pénible. Je suis à l'écoute de toutes idées et suggestions mais ne vous gachez pas une belle journée d'été pour ça tout de même. François Boisson Je suis également l'heureux possesseur d'un protege, je rencontre le même problème. Je n'ai pas encore eu le temps de tester la piste dont je parle, par contre j'ai tester de désactiver (sans résultat) : le touchpad le bluetooth le lecteur de carte sim La batterie se consomme toujours pendant la nuit... :( Bonne journée tout le monde, -- Cordialement, Steve Fouchet -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e7460.9090...@gmail.com
Re: HS Important défaut de Gimp-2.8
On 08/17/2012 09:50 AM, Guy Roussin wrote: Mais si tu as ouvert une image png ou gif ou autre, avec gimp 2.8, tu as l'option Ecraser l'image qui répond à ton besoin non ? Donc tu n'es pas obligé d'enregistrer le xcf ... C'est théoriquement exact, effectivement... Je le pensais et j'ai donc paramétré un raccourci clavier pour écraser le fichier. Cela marche la première fois, ensuite, plus rien. Bug ? Les fois suivantes ( Exporter vers monfichier.png) avec le raccourci Ctrl-E Le choix actuel des développeurs gimp me parait bien plus efficace. Tu peux en même temps travailler en xcf (enregistrer avec ctrl S) si tu le souhaites tout en sauvegardant d'une touche dans les formats limités (png, gif, jpeg) d'une touche aussi (ctrl E) sauf la 1ere fois ou tu utilises l'option écraser l'image. Pour moi, c'est bien supérieur à ce qui existait en 2.6 Mais il est possible que tu sois victime d'un bug (absence de l'option ctrl-e), dans ce cas je te suggère de faire un rapport de bug. Cordialement, Guy Bonjour ctrl E n'est qu'un raccourci clavier et tous les raccourcis peuvent être personnalisés. Le problème de la version 2.8, c'est la séparation de la gestion des xcf de la gestion des autres formats png tiff jpeg. C'est même là le noeud du problème. C'est une vision personnelle de l'édition d'image qui tourne le dos au comportement standard des éditeurs qui convient à tous, par définition. C'est une erreur des programmeurs. Parions que Gimp reviendra à un comportement standard, sinon Gimp restera dans la catégorie logiciel amateur, vu ce comportement aberrant. Je vais me faire des amis du coté des inconditionnels, d'ailleurs, c'est déjà fait... Pour résumer les nouvelles et inutiles complications introduites dans Gimp-2.8 Les fonctions save restrictives (seulement xcf): Save = enregistre seulement en xcf Save as = enregistre seulement en xcf Les fonctions save libres Export = enregistre sous laisse le choix du nom et du format fichier (ouf !) Export again = enregistre normalement le fichier png, tiff, etc, après mofif, en écrasant (ouf encore !) overwrite = supposé enregistrer après modif en écrasant a un bug chez moi. Il ne marche que la première fois, ensuite, rien ne se passe. Amicalement -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e89aa.80...@gmail.com
Re: Alternatives x-window-manager, x-session-manager
Le vendredi 17 août 2012 18:01:40, Steve Fouchet a écrit : Bonjour, Pour installer une alternative vers e17 avec une priorité 90 (par exemple) update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-session-manager x-session-manager /usr/bin/enlightenment_start 90 Ensuite ta commande --set fonctionnera # update-alternatives --set x-session-manager /usr/bin/enlightenment_start Merci, je testerai cela ce week-end. -- Eddy F. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208172149.07455.edfnet-...@yahoo.fr
Re: Alternatives x-window-manager, x-session-manager
Le vendredi 17 août 2012 14:20:51, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Salut, Le vendredi 17 août 2012 à 11:41, Eddy F. a écrit : Par contre, dans le choix de sessions de kdm il y a aussi « défaut (dernier utilisé) ». Après plusieurs tests, ce dernier utilisé n'est pas correct chez moi. En effet, si je ne précise pas la session que je veux, alors kdm me lance la dernière utilisée. Si je choisis la session par défaut, kdm me lance toujours kde même si, avant, j'avais utilisé e17. Il me semble que la dernière session utilisée est enregistrée dans le fichier « .dmrc » de ton dossier personnel. Le mien contient deux lignes : [Desktop] Session=xfce Seb Merci. Je n'avais pas remarqué ce fichier. En effet, il contient bien la dernière session demandée à kdm et l'utilise pour lancer une session quand on ne précise pas laquelle on veut. En me relisant, je ne sais si je me suis bien fait comprendre : l'entrée de kdm marquée « défaut (dernier utilisé) » est mal nommée car choisir cette entrée chez moi ne lance pas le dernier utilisé tel que renseigné par ce fichier .dmrc mais bien la session par défaut qui est finalement x-session- manager. Cette option de kdm devrait plutôt être nommée « défaut ». Par contre sans préciser la session que l'on veut, c'est bien la dernière utilisée indiquée dans .dmrc qui est lancée. -- Eddy F. http://daysf...@tumblr.com -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208172156.44003.edfnet-...@yahoo.fr
Re: configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=1
El Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:24:55 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: On 16/08/12 10:51, Camaleón wrote: (...) En consecuencia no entiendo que es lo que pasa, lshw me dice que tengo sólo uno habilitado y por otro lado estoy monitoreando los dos, y los dos muestran distinto uso... Es normal o tengo que configurar algo para que me reconozca los dos cores ? No, no es normal, deberÃas tener los dos activados y reconocibles. Pues parece que están bien, el problema es el lshw... Por los resultados que obtienes con el resto de utilidades, sí, eso parece :-? Lo único que se me ocurre es: 1/ Un bug/error de la aplicación 2/ Que lo hayas ejecutado como usuario normal en lugar de súperusaurio y no sepa/pueda detectar/interpretar todos los valores correctamente 3/ Que estemos interpretando mal lo que indica ese valor de enabledcores pero a falta de documentación yo diría que parece evidente. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lh13$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Herramientas Android para Debian
El Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:04:25 -0400, Pablo Zuñiga escribió: El 16 de agosto de 2012 10:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) a diferencias de las otras personas que SI leyeron el contenido del correo, y les agradeci por responder, mi pregunta se basaba en la experiencia, por que programas encontré. No he visto ninguna respuesta en la lista, salvo la de Marc y la mía... quizá se dirigieron a ti directamente. Hay que abrir mas los ojos, o no tener tanta gente en spam Ese concepto de spam no existe en los lectores de news. Y no, no veo a nadie más que haya respondido a ese hilo: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2012/08/msg00325.html entonces si no tienes experiencia haciendo esto no ensucies la lista con respuesta que tienden a null, lo importante es que todos los que puedan aporten su grano de arena, no realizando acciones tan burdas como decir/escribir Aprende a buscar en Google Creo que algunos habéis desarrollado cierto complejo con respecto Google. Yo lo uso a diario, la cantidad de cosas útiles y de información que ofrece es inmensa, y si yo lo uso para mí no veo por qué no lo voy a recomendar a otros. Una cosa es recomendar usar algo que te gusta, ahora es muy diferente hacerlo de forma sarcástica y lo peor con palabras claves que ya había usado. Pensar que habrán generaciones, u otros colegas que buscaran información en los historiales de la lista y se encontraran con esto. No sé de qué sarcasmo hablas ni qué es lo que te ofende de la respuesta. Quizá estás enojado contigo mismo por algo (o mejor dicho, por no haber hecho algo) y ahora te rebotas. Si lo que te molesta es que haya usado el dominio de www.lmgtfy.com pues verás, desde que Google empezó a utilizar direcciones URL extra largas para sus búsquedas, suelo utilizar dos sistemas cuando quiero enlazar a sus resultados: - Recortador de URL (como www.bitly.com) - Let Me Google That For You, que también acorta la URI Como preguntabas por algo que parecía ser bastante común, una sencilla búsqueda en Google te daba varios resultados relacionados con la consulta, por eso utilicé la segunda opción. Si no te gusta la respuesta, no la mires, no respondas, simplemente descártala e ignórala. Pero si lo que te sienta mal es que alguien te dé una idea de por dónde tirar, entonces sencillamente no sé para qué narices preguntas en una lista pública. Recuerdo a una persona que sé que sigue leyendo la lista pero se ha apartado. Esa persona era capaz de decirte que buscaras en Google y aparte te hablaba de su experiencia, sin pedirselo. Hombre, pues eso siempre se agradece. Y se puede hacer cuando quien pregunta lo hace de forma concisa y clara, indicando qué ha probado y qué no, o qué información ha encontrado y no le ha servido... Esas respuestas tenían un valor agregado que muchas veces te ahorraban horas de búsquedas, pues no hay nada como un consejo basado en la experiencia. Eran los tiempos de Basaburu, quien se comportaba como un guía. Permíteme que no opine sobre este comentario. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lhqg$o53$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: correcta forma de desinstalar apache2 en debian 6 - Solucionado
finalmente des instale completamente apache2 siguiente comando: # apt-get remove apache2-utils gracias por su ayuda, recapitulando mi necesitad de des instalar apache2 surgió ha raíz de que me salio el siguiente mensaje. Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) Server at ajpuno Port 80 pensé que hice algo indebido y era la razón de este mensaje, pero una vez des instalado y vuelto a instalar persiste mi problema, mi consulta completa sobre mi problema inicial lo pasteare en un nuevo mensaje. saludos -- Constantino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagbsza9ddpoyg1f+j3wohf9vd_6jdvjjz72bybbod-wjw7z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mysql-server-5.5 en wheezy error despues de aptitude full-upgrade :(
El Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:18:56 -0500, Hector Garcia escribió: Desde hace 2 dias pasó: aptitude update aptitude full-upgrade me quiso actualizar mysql-server y mysql-server-5.5, pero con el siguiente resultado [FAIL] Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! (...) mysql-server depende de mysql-server-5.5; sin embargo: El paquete `mysql-server-5.5' no está configurado todavía. dpkg: error al procesar mysql-server (--configure): problemas de dependencias - se deja sin configurar Ese error parece indicar que MySQL (mysql-server-5.5) no se ha podido configurar, seguramente por algún problema en la migración de datos desde la versión anterior. Leo el bug 682232 [1] Ese parece tu problema, sí. Y parece serio, para que luego digan que las actualizaciones no dan problemas :-/ Trato de iniciar mysql con innodb_force_recovery = 1, sin éxito. Syslog me dice (entre otros textos) Bueno, a ver... lo que dicen en el informe (comentario 22) es algo más complejo que editar sencillamente una variable de configuración: se supone que hay algún problema con las bases de datos con tablas de tipo InnoDB por lo que tendrías que asegurarte de que MySQL no las utilice ni las cargue. En resumen, creo que la idea es hacer que MySQL inicie desde cero sin ningún tipo de configuración ni de datos que le pueda estar impidiendo configurarse. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lifr$o53$3...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Uso de memoria en Gnome 3.4.2
El Thu, 16 Aug 2012 22:48:29 -0400, Jose Andres Viana escribió: Tengo instalado Debian Wheezy (Linux debian 3.2.0-3-amd64), y habia estado utilizando KDE. Ahora me dio por probar GNOME, todo va bien hasta que abre User Accounts en System Settings. En ese momento gnome-control-center empieza a consumir toda la memoria incluyendo la swap. # ps aux jose 5336 63.6 92.5 7937624 3758744 ? Rl 22:24 1:01 gnome-control-center user-accounts ^ Eso valores indican el porcentaje de uso de CPU (63.5%) y la memoria (92.55%). Excesivo, sí. y despues el mismo sistema mata el proceso por que se queda sin memoria. Alguna sugerencia? hasta ahora no he conseguido informacion al respecto de ningun bug o problema conocido. Aqui esta tambien lo que arroja el syslog: Aug 16 22:26:30 debian kernel: [ 2526.344288] gnome-control-c invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x280da, order=0, oom_adj=0, oom_score_adj=0 (...) Aug 16 22:26:31 debian kernel: [ 2526.368794] Out of memory: Kill process 5336 (gnome-control-c) score 963 or sacrifice child Aug 16 22:26:31 debian kernel: [ 2526.368798] Killed process 5336 (gnome-control-c) total-vm:12098584kB, anon-rss:3838984kB, file-rss:84kB Aug 16 22:26:31 debian kernel: [ 2526.369189] gnome-control-c invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200da, order=0, oom_adj=0, oom_score_adj=0 Aug 16 22:26:31 debian kernel: [ 2526.369195] gnome-control-c cpuset=/mems_allowed=0 Aug 16 22:26:31 debian kernel: [ 2526.369198] Pid: 5339, comm: gnome-control-c Tainted: G O 3.2.0-3-amd64 #1 Aug 16 22:26:31 debian kernel: [ 2526.369200] Call Trace: Aug 16 22:26:31 debian kernel: [ 2526.369209] [810b63d2] ? dump_header+0x78/0x1bd (...) ¡Hala! Un OOM y con traza :-( Pues no sé qué decirte, llevo con wheezy y gnome3 desde hace muchos meses y nunca he tenido un OOM (y eso que mi equipo no es muy potente, micro Atom y 2 GiB de RAM, vamos, que no va sobrado). Lo primero que probaría es a crear un nuevo usuario e iniciar sesión con él para ver si sucede lo mismo. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lj26$o53$4...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Usar máquina virtual en diferentes sistemas operativos [SOLUCIONADO]
El Thu, 16 Aug 2012 22:29:48 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: Espero haber ejecutado la jugada correcta al pulsar el botón reenviar, sino, pido disculpas anticipadas. Yo soy más del tipo webmail. No tienes que pulsar reenviar sino responder (el mensaje ha quedado deshilado). El webmail no te va a impedir que pulses el botón correcto, no le eches la culpa :-) Este correo lo escribo para indicar que ya logré resolver mi duda. Una duda que no me otorgó Internet a los primeros 10 intentos. Pues no será por que no te lo hemos estado diciendo... Resulta que las nuevas versiones de Virtualbox han mejorado con respecto a sus orígenes. En el aspecto que te interesaba poco ha cambiado, siempre ha sido posible hacerlo. Ahora bien, hay dos maneras de ejecutar lo que pido: una es ingresando al menú Archivo-Importar servicio virtualizado (o por teclado CTR L+letra i), y luego en la otra máquina ejecutar Archivo-Exportar servicio virtualizado (CTRL+letra e). Por ejemplo... es una opción más elegante que copiar/pegar los datos de configuración y la VM directamente pero con la desventaja de que los ajustes que se hagan a la VM le afectarán directamente en cuanto la incies, es mejor hacerlo antes con un clon de la VM para evitar cargarse la máquina virtual original, al menos para hacer las pruebas. La otra, menos divulgada, es ingresar a la carpeta de la máquina ya creada y buscar nombredearchivo.vbox, hacer doble clic. ¿Qué sucederá? Eso se los dejo para que vean los resultados. Pues dependerá del tipo de sistema operativo y del entorno gráfico en el que lo hagas, si no hay ninguna aplicación asociada a ese tipo de archivos (.vbox) te aparecerá una ventanita preguntándote con qué aplicación lo quieres abrir. Por cierto, si no recuerdo mal las máquinas virtuales tienen extensión .vdi, los archivos .vbox son de configuración. Y ya resuelto el asunto, lo comparto para futuras referencias. Y ahora el círculo se cierra. Me alegra saber que al fin has visto la luz :-P Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0ljnb$o53$5...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Gestión de perfiles Gnome en Debian
El Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:42:44 +0200, C. L. Martinez escribió: (...) Mi pregunta es: ¿existe alguna herramienta que lo haga (y por supuesto que no se pueda ejecutar a menos que se ponga el passwd de root)? ¿o solo es posible mediante la edición de archivos planos? Supongo que buscas algo parecido a un modo kiosco con un entorno limitado, el problema es que GNOME3+gnome-shell está aún muy verde en ese aspecto (GConf/Dconf) y la herramienta que indicas (sabayon) parece que es para GNOME 2. ¿Qué haría yo? Simplificar. Una cuenta de usuario sin privilegios te evita que se hagan estropicios gordos en la máquina virtual pero aún así, podrías programar una copia de la VM con intervalo semanal para que en caso de ruina total puedas volver a cargar la última VM completa. Después, para que los perfiles de los usuarios sólo muestren las aplicaciones que elijas, tendrás que hacerlo a mano¹ porque la herramienta con la se hacía esto (el editor de menús alacarte) creo (digo creo porque hace mucho que no he mirado como está esto) que no funciona en gnome-shell. De todas formas, una reflexión: si Edubuntu funciona o se acerca a lo que buscas ¿por qué no usarla? :-? ¹http://superuser.com/questions/298198/gnome-shell-application-menu-customization Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lkm5$o53$6...@ger.gmane.org
Re: configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=1
Hola... On 17/08/12 10:30, Camaleón wrote: El Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:24:55 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: On 16/08/12 10:51, Camaleón wrote: (...) En consecuencia no entiendo que es lo que pasa, lshw me dice que tengo sólo uno habilitado y por otro lado estoy monitoreando los dos, y los dos muestran distinto uso... Es normal o tengo que configurar algo para que me reconozca los dos cores ? No, no es normal, deberÃÂas tener los dos activados y reconocibles. Pues parece que están bien, el problema es el lshw... Por los resultados que obtienes con el resto de utilidades, sÃ, eso parece :-? Lo único que se me ocurre es: 1/ Un bug/error de la aplicación Casi seguro... 2/ Que lo hayas ejecutado como usuario normal en lugar de súperusaurio y no sepa/pueda detectar/interpretar todos los valores correctamente Si se ejecuta como usuario normal esa línea (la de los cores) directamente no se muestra, 3/ Que estemos interpretando mal lo que indica ese valor de enabledcores pero a falta de documentación yo dirÃa que parece evidente. mmm... recién acabo de correr lshw -como root- en la computadora de casa y esa línea de enabledcores... no aparece, y ésta tiene un core i5. Algo raro pasa con ese parámetro. Saludos, Igualmente, Walter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e576a.5030...@gmail.com
Re: correcta forma de desinstalar apache2 en debian 6 - Solucionado
El Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:49:17 -0500, Constantino Vargas escribió: finalmente des instale completamente apache2 siguiente comando: # apt-get remove apache2-utils Ah, al final este comando también sirve para Squeeze, pues está bien saberlo. gracias por su ayuda, recapitulando mi necesitad de des instalar apache2 surgió ha raíz de que me salio el siguiente mensaje. Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) Server at ajpuno Port 80 ¿Y has reinstalado apache sólo por ese error? Caray... :-? pensé que hice algo indebido y era la razón de este mensaje, pero una vez des instalado y vuelto a instalar persiste mi problema, mi consulta completa sobre mi problema inicial lo pasteare en un nuevo mensaje. Normal... de hecho ese es un error bastante común pero no apunta a un problema con la instalación sino con la configuración del servidor web. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0ltqq$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
clamav desde linux y malware windows
Buenas, si instalas clamav en un servidor con Linux, ¿es capaz de detectar y desinfectar malware (virus, troyanos, etc) de windows?. Por poner un ejemplo. Imaginar que subes a un ftp varios archivos .EXE que usas en windows, y uno de ellos esta infectado, pongamos por caso por un virus. En el servidor ftp tienes instalado Linux y Clamav. ¿Clamav es capaz de detectar y desinfectar?. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca+hdpf+c1xzfrbfrxszd23aktwhim+zt+eoaxhbd4gqz808...@mail.gmail.com
Re: clamav desde linux y malware windows
On Friday 17 August 2012 20:34:26 Altair Linux wrote: Buenas, si instalas clamav en un servidor con Linux, ¿es capaz de detectar y desinfectar malware (virus, troyanos, etc) de windows?. Por poner un ejemplo. Imaginar que subes a un ftp varios archivos .EXE que usas en windows, y uno de ellos esta infectado, pongamos por caso por un virus. En el servidor ftp tienes instalado Linux y Clamav. ¿Clamav es capaz de detectar y desinfectar?. En un entorno pasivo, solo se puede detectar malware por firmas y con algo de heurística, pero no se pueden usar métodos de detección en base al comportamiento del ejecutable y esta es una parte importante en el proceso de detección de malware. Hoy en dia hay malware sofisticado que puede modificar mucho su código en cada infección, haciendo difícil, si no impossible, la detección por firmas. Claro que para poder detectar un virus en función de su comportamiento hay que _ejecutarlo_, que no es nada buena idea ;-) A parte de este pero, Clamav detecta virus Windows. -- Marc Olivé Blau Advisors www.blauadvisors.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: ¿Qué programa usan para organizar sus fotos?
El día 15 de agosto de 2012 16:02, ElRobe i32lelor.deb...@gmail.com escribió: El 15/08/12 17:39, Marcos Delgado escribió: Hola que tal. Tengo algunas fotos y generalmente las organizo de manera manual. Pero al ver algunas recomendaciones que mencionan a Picasa y otro de Mac (que no me acuerdo del nombre) pues quería ver sus opiniones. Ya se que hay varios, pero quería leer sus experiencias. Uso Sid y openbox. Saludos. Biol. Marcos Delgado. Pues yo era de los de toda la vida organización por directorios en función del evento o temática... pero la verdad es que con las fotos lo mejor es usar shotwell o digicam, yo uso concretamente el primero. Con Shotwell les asigno etiquetas a las fotos, esas etiquetas se inscrustan en los propios archivos de las fotos de modo que otra persona pueda acceder al total de los fotos y se le organizan automaticamente las fotos por las etiquetas que yo me curro de asignar. La organización por eventos las extrae de las fechas de las fotos y puedes manipularlas pero prefiero dejarlo tal y como vienen y trabajar mas con las etiquetas. Tambien puedes trabajar por lotes, y publicar en diferentes servicios de internet tipo facebook y otros... La verdad es que llega un momento que se agradece poder gestionar las fotografias con estos programas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502c0e77.6040...@gmail.com Gracias a todos por sus respuestas. Me inclino por Shotwell, ya les contaré. Saludos. Biol. Marcos Delgado. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cab_r4cuuhrcexpnuuwdqdbqlur7ixtd8g_a3kp-bj4+nxej...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Herramientas Android para Debian
El día 16 de agosto de 2012 15:04, Pablo Zuñiga pabl...@gmail.com escribió: Eran los tiempos de Basaburu, quien se comportaba como un guía. Ahhh, y como me gustaría saber que te habría contestado Basaburu ante tu pregunta -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caaizax7vyf_qx2uxv1ueluywvu4m-afrob7fiptw9db...@mail.gmail.com
SQUID Proxy com performance Péssima (DESCOBERTA)
Bom dia queridos amigos da lista amigos que me ajudaram no post anterior! Esse squid que detalhei a vcs no post anterior e que ficava durante todo o dia consumindo a CPU (100%), pois bem, não havia mencionado que ele era autenticado, autenticação via SAMBA, temos aqui na empresa um PDC rodando SAMBA que concentra todos os usuários da rede (cerca de 2500). Fiz um teste retirando a autenticação do squid e o resultado foi monstruoso, em momentos de pico no trabalho a CPU oscilava entre 0 a 8% de consumo e no mesmo instante quando voltava com a obrigatoriedade de autenticação no squid o consumo voltava para 100% e ficava sem cair. A empresa exige que façamos um controle de acesso a internet por usuário por isso não posso tirar a autenticação mas como posso fazer para que o processo de autenticação via smb_auth não onere tanto a CPU ao ponto de comprometer o desempenho do servidor e com isso tornando a navegação mais lenta? Alguém poderia me ajudar? Abraços, Moksha
RE: SQUID Proxy com performance Péssima (DESCOBERTA)
quais as configuracoes da maquina? talvez vc prescisa aumentar mais ram squid consome muita ram From: gova...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:13:57 -0300 Subject: SQUID Proxy com performance Péssima (DESCOBERTA) To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Bom dia queridos amigos da lista amigos que me ajudaram no post anterior! Esse squid que detalhei a vcs no post anterior e que ficava durante todo o dia consumindo a CPU (100%), pois bem, não havia mencionado que ele era autenticado, autenticação via SAMBA, temos aqui na empresa um PDC rodando SAMBA que concentra todos os usuários da rede (cerca de 2500). Fiz um teste retirando a autenticação do squid e o resultado foi monstruoso, em momentos de pico no trabalho a CPU oscilava entre 0 a 8% de consumo e no mesmo instante quando voltava com a obrigatoriedade de autenticação no squid o consumo voltava para 100% e ficava sem cair. A empresa exige que façamos um controle de acesso a internet por usuário por isso não posso tirar a autenticação mas como posso fazer para que o processo de autenticação via smb_auth não onere tanto a CPU ao ponto de comprometer o desempenho do servidor e com isso tornando a navegação mais lenta? Alguém poderia me ajudar? Abraços, Moksha
Re: SQUID Proxy com performance Péssima (DESCOBERTA)
Buenas, talvez eles esteja com a base grande? talvez alguma alteração? gerando uma consulta com erros de programação Posta a autenticação. *--* Att Marcos Carraro marcoscarraro.blogspot.com Em 17 de agosto de 2012 10:13, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom dia queridos amigos da lista amigos que me ajudaram no post anterior! Esse squid que detalhei a vcs no post anterior e que ficava durante todo o dia consumindo a CPU (100%), pois bem, não havia mencionado que ele era autenticado, autenticação via SAMBA, temos aqui na empresa um PDC rodando SAMBA que concentra todos os usuários da rede (cerca de 2500). Fiz um teste retirando a autenticação do squid e o resultado foi monstruoso, em momentos de pico no trabalho a CPU oscilava entre 0 a 8% de consumo e no mesmo instante quando voltava com a obrigatoriedade de autenticação no squid o consumo voltava para 100% e ficava sem cair. A empresa exige que façamos um controle de acesso a internet por usuário por isso não posso tirar a autenticação mas como posso fazer para que o processo de autenticação via smb_auth não onere tanto a CPU ao ponto de comprometer o desempenho do servidor e com isso tornando a navegação mais lenta? Alguém poderia me ajudar? Abraços, Moksha
Re: SQUID Proxy com performance Péssima (DESCOBERTA)
Bom dia, se vc tem um base muito grande, poderia começar a pensar em um backend melhor, como ldap. mas é apenas uma sugestão, você deve analisar onde está o teu gargalho, isso pode ser disco lento também. Use ferramentas do sysstat para analisar os valores antes e durante um problema de desempenho (sar, vmstat, free) Com isso você vai saber o que está demorando para liberar o processador. Em 17-08-2012 10:16, Marcos Carraro escreveu: Buenas, talvez eles esteja com a base grande? talvez alguma alteração? gerando uma consulta com erros de programação Posta a autenticação. *--* Att Marcos Carraro marcoscarraro.blogspot.com http://marcoscarraro.blogspot.com Em 17 de agosto de 2012 10:13, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com mailto:gova...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom dia queridos amigos da lista amigos que me ajudaram no post anterior! Esse squid que detalhei a vcs no post anterior e que ficava durante todo o dia consumindo a CPU (100%), pois bem, não havia mencionado que ele era autenticado, autenticação via SAMBA, temos aqui na empresa um PDC rodando SAMBA que concentra todos os usuários da rede (cerca de 2500). Fiz um teste retirando a autenticação do squid e o resultado foi monstruoso, em momentos de pico no trabalho a CPU oscilava entre 0 a 8% de consumo e no mesmo instante quando voltava com a obrigatoriedade de autenticação no squid o consumo voltava para 100% e ficava sem cair. A empresa exige que façamos um controle de acesso a internet por usuário por isso não posso tirar a autenticação mas como posso fazer para que o processo de autenticação via smb_auth não onere tanto a CPU ao ponto de comprometer o desempenho do servidor e com isso tornando a navegação mais lenta? Alguém poderia me ajudar? Abraços, Moksha -- Att. Dane Brand Atua Sistemas de Informação Skype: dane.atua Msn: d...@atua.com.br ICQ : 126258686 Fone: (54) 3045-4144 Celular: (54) 9673-8919 Linux User #548369
Re: SQUID Proxy com performance Péssima (DESCOBERTA)
Posta aí pra gente as linhas do seu squid.conf referentes a autenticação. Em 17 de agosto de 2012 10:47, Dane d...@atua.com.br escreveu: Bom dia, se vc tem um base muito grande, poderia começar a pensar em um backend melhor, como ldap. mas é apenas uma sugestão, você deve analisar onde está o teu gargalho, isso pode ser disco lento também. Use ferramentas do sysstat para analisar os valores antes e durante um problema de desempenho (sar, vmstat, free) Com isso você vai saber o que está demorando para liberar o processador. Em 17-08-2012 10:16, Marcos Carraro escreveu: Buenas, talvez eles esteja com a base grande? talvez alguma alteração? gerando uma consulta com erros de programação Posta a autenticação. -- Att Marcos Carraro marcoscarraro.blogspot.com Em 17 de agosto de 2012 10:13, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom dia queridos amigos da lista amigos que me ajudaram no post anterior! Esse squid que detalhei a vcs no post anterior e que ficava durante todo o dia consumindo a CPU (100%), pois bem, não havia mencionado que ele era autenticado, autenticação via SAMBA, temos aqui na empresa um PDC rodando SAMBA que concentra todos os usuários da rede (cerca de 2500). Fiz um teste retirando a autenticação do squid e o resultado foi monstruoso, em momentos de pico no trabalho a CPU oscilava entre 0 a 8% de consumo e no mesmo instante quando voltava com a obrigatoriedade de autenticação no squid o consumo voltava para 100% e ficava sem cair. A empresa exige que façamos um controle de acesso a internet por usuário por isso não posso tirar a autenticação mas como posso fazer para que o processo de autenticação via smb_auth não onere tanto a CPU ao ponto de comprometer o desempenho do servidor e com isso tornando a navegação mais lenta? Alguém poderia me ajudar? Abraços, Moksha -- Att. Dane Brand Atua Sistemas de Informação Skype: dane.atua Msn: d...@atua.com.br ICQ : 126258686 Fone: (54) 3045-4144 Celular: (54) 9673-8919 Linux User #548369 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CANwxfxOH6xQTmH0a4+WLxumiG19MwWbkEekQ=hkg0dlrb5j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: SQUID Proxy com performance Péssima (DESCOBERTA)
Rode um top ou px aux e ps lax e mande-nos o resultado. Isso lhe mostrará exatamente quais processos estão consumindo tanta CPU, após isso, se não for normal pelo tanto de usuários vamos investigar o porque do problema. On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 10:13 -0300, Moksha Tux wrote: Bom dia queridos amigos da lista amigos que me ajudaram no post anterior! Esse squid que detalhei a vcs no post anterior e que ficava durante todo o dia consumindo a CPU (100%), pois bem, não havia mencionado que ele era autenticado, autenticação via SAMBA, temos aqui na empresa um PDC rodando SAMBA que concentra todos os usuários da rede (cerca de 2500). Fiz um teste retirando a autenticação do squid e o resultado foi monstruoso, em momentos de pico no trabalho a CPU oscilava entre 0 a 8% de consumo e no mesmo instante quando voltava com a obrigatoriedade de autenticação no squid o consumo voltava para 100% e ficava sem cair. A empresa exige que façamos um controle de acesso a internet por usuário por isso não posso tirar a autenticação mas como posso fazer para que o processo de autenticação via smb_auth não onere tanto a CPU ao ponto de comprometer o desempenho do servidor e com isso tornando a navegação mais lenta? Alguém poderia me ajudar? Abraços, Moksha -- Adiel de Lima Ribeiro facebook.com/sembr.dyndns.info
Re: continuous reboots in a two nodes cluster with heartbeat and pacemaker.
On 14 August 2012 08:24, Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 August 2012 22:58, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: That being the case I'd suspect something other than server hardware. To be sure, manually remove one node from the cluster and see how long the remaining node runs without rebooting. If it doesn't reboot at all, that eliminates hardware as the fault point. good idea, I do it now. I've done what you have suggested. It seems that the node reboots without reason. It is like it is powered off, in fact in the boolog I see that the journal filesystem is recovered. It seems very strange to me, perhaps ram bugged? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAE17a0V39QMbTnBRGESazYm=f8lrq6c5bp4wk7s6m8etbeb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
On Friday 17 August 2012 07:41:28 Dr Beco wrote: Thanks for the reply, but the user guide did not help. http://cz.tp-link.com/resources/software/20111616204111.pdf I just want to know if there is a QSS program (binary) for debian. I guess no. Method ONE is as simple as: 1) Press QSS button on the router. 2) Run QSS.EXE on your computer. User guide suggests my computer also has a QSS button, and that is not true. Also, user guide name the binary as Configuration Utility of QSS, and even the pictures looks like windows style. Thanks, Beco. But, using a wired connection as in paragraph 3.1, 3.2, you should be able to use the QSS from the router thru your internet explorer as shown in 4.3 and later. Good luck!!! Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208170903.18149.tchate...@free.fr
Re: continuous reboots in a two nodes cluster with heartbeat and pacemaker.
On 8/17/2012 1:52 AM, Mauro wrote: On 14 August 2012 08:24, Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 August 2012 22:58, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: That being the case I'd suspect something other than server hardware. To be sure, manually remove one node from the cluster and see how long the remaining node runs without rebooting. If it doesn't reboot at all, that eliminates hardware as the fault point. good idea, I do it now. I've done what you have suggested. It seems that the node reboots without reason. It is like it is powered off, in fact in the boolog I see that the journal filesystem is recovered. It seems very strange to me, perhaps ram bugged? I'd be thoroughly inspecting the power circuits feeding those servers at this point. Do you have the machines set to automatically power back on after power loss? If you do, switch that mode so they stay off after AC power loss. That should confirm whether the problem is total loss of AC voltage or a severely deep sag. If the problem is a less severe sag, however, this test won't isolate the problem. For that you must dig into the UPS monitoring interface. If you don't have a UPS, you'll have to put a tap on the AC circuit and monitor the voltage. This will require specialized equipment, as it must be able to log the sag. Some of the nicer Fluke meters can log the lowest voltage, but probably can't tell you the time of day when the sag occurs. Thus, you'll need to highly trained electrician with the proper equipment. This could also be a thermal issue. Do you have hardware monitoring installed and properly configured? The 'sensors' package? Over temp conditions will often cause random reboots. Do the boxes have plenty of zero restriction cool airflow? Less than 25 Celsius intake air temperature? The odds of having defective hardware in two HP servers causing random reboots in both machines is extremely low, though possible. If this is the case it's a design flaw, not simply two defective parts. It's also possible you have the wrong memory installed. Can you provide the specs on all DIMMs installed in both machines? Did all of the memory come preinstalled from HP? Is it HP memory or aftermarket memory from Kingston, Crucial, etc? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502df86a.6030...@hardwarefreak.com
iscsi debian. suggestion needed
Dear All, i am looking into HA (or in other words to minimize restoration process time) for virtualization in linux. i am using debian as a base system KVM-Qemu as virtual environment. now i am exploring different methods of HA. like DRBD, Rsync or ISCSI. so that if main server hardware fails then other system would serve the purpose. with out wasting my time in restoring backup. so is there any one who is using linux ISCI SAN box for their virtualization rather dell, or any other vendor. so just wanted to know the pros and cons / stability / complexity . since i am already dived into Linux so study wont be an issue. and of course i know that LAN card can only give me around 1GB throughput. but my data transmit is not that huge. we are a small company with 25 nodes and i think more or less 1 GB would be more then enough. any suggestion would be highly appreciated. Thanks, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagwvfmne7dvquntecrpjeehcjw+2twnzmktyniaxueu1tky...@mail.gmail.com
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
On Fri 17 Aug 2012 at 00:21:23 -0300, Dr Beco wrote: According to: http://www.tp-link.com/lk/article/?id=171 There are routers (coincidentally, I have one of them) that accept a new device to establish a wireless connection without having to use password. The method is simple: 1- Push the QSS button on the router. 2- Run the QSS.EXE program on your windows machine in 2 minutes after you pressed the QSS button. That is it! You are now connected! But, hey! QSS.EXE? How can we do it in our debian? You install and set up wpasupplicant to do it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817082641.GA17647@desktop
Backup
I have a 1 TB external USB drive with 362 GB used. I'd like to do a full backup to DVDs and then an incremental (or something) backup every month or two, also to DVDs or CDs. I'd like the backups to be compressed in order to save space (i.e. - the number of DVDs/CDs used). What is a good program to do this with? Or, what is a good step of different programs to do this with? I'm a home user with decent knowledge of Debian/Linux, but not a shell programmer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e0389.7030...@yahoo.com
Nagios shows only one Host (Services)
Hi, after upgrade to Wheezy one of my Nagios installation shows only one (of three) hosts on Services-Page. On the Hosts-Page all three machines are listed and I can even go to the Status-Detail-Page. Another Nagios instance works fine. I've uploaded my config here: http://paste.debian.net/184146/ Any ideas? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e0947.1090...@concepts-and-training.de
Re: Backup
On 17/08/12 04:40 AM, Emil Payne wrote: I have a 1 TB external USB drive with 362 GB used. I'd like to do a full backup to DVDs and then an incremental (or something) backup every month or two, also to DVDs or CDs. I'd like the backups to be compressed in order to save space (i.e. - the number of DVDs/CDs used). What is a good program to do this with? Or, what is a good step of different programs to do this with? I'm a home user with decent knowledge of Debian/Linux, but not a shell programmer. Depending on your data, compression may or may not be useful. Video and audio data is usually already optimally compressed. 4.5G on a DVD is also not terribly useful if you want to back up large amounts of data. BluRay writers are cheap enough these days, and BD-RE discs are not too expensive. BD-R discs are even cheaper for doing an archival backup. You don't say what you are backing up. If it is the data on the external drive, you may want to consider getting a second drive and backing up to that. It's a lot easier than manually swapping discs. In this case, you could try Bacula. It's not too difficult to set up and quite flexible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e0cd6.5020...@rogers.com
Re: Voice redirection: from mic. to speakers on wheezy laptop [was Mic. does not work...].
Good time of the day, Camaleón. Thank You, again, for Your time and answer! You wrote: Oh, what similarity! :o) Have You ever used Your mic. w/ Ekiga -like software - i.e. can You use Your mic. for talking on Internet? - Meaning this chipset hardware. Not from the netbook but from my desktop. I started to use Ekiga with a simple $2.00 microhone that I plugged to the mic input jack located in front of the case. So far so good, this worked fine. As time passed and I found VOIP to be working very good, I then upgraded (bought) a new device (and USB headset) that I simply plugged to one of the USB ports and provided a very high voice quality. Wow! What a setup! I thought You use it w/ 2 jacks. Now, back to the netbook, let me try it. (configuring a sip account) Mmm, I must have some sort of network problem because: - Register is okay - Sound test from Ekiga is okay (ring, incoming calls...) - Placing a call fails (host is not connected) I will have to debug this in deep -time permitting- and tell you the results. OK. I try to use my mic. w/ Ekiga - tried to test it w/ its test numbers - one should echo my speech but I hear nothing - only robot's voice. Though I see local volume meter changes as I speak - do not know whither it comes to ekiga side... Ekiga provides some tips for configuring the audio: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Troubleshooting#Audio_problems http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Audio_setup I'm convinced - I need to take a couple of Your lessons on web searching! :o) They're for free :-P Wow! It is awesome!! :o) I really appreciate Your contribution You make for Debian project in general, and me - in particular! OK, in process. Anyway, I wouldn't test the mic using Ekiga. I say this because the voice quality can be severely affected not just by the application/sound configuration/mic but the SIP/VOIP number you're calling because not all ISTP provide low jitter and packet loss levels which are vital to obtain a crystal clear audio. No, I'm not testing it. I just want to make it using for it now. Ah, good then :-) But as I told you, your sound/voice quality problem can have different sources. As you seem to be able to dial from Ekiga, you can try with these test numbers: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Phone+Numbers I use (+44)148-360-4781, it's very good to test you mic/echo (menu 1) and your overall voip quality (menu 3 will give music on hold and careful because the two song samples they provide are very addictive :-P) I have read a link from above, yet can not find solution for my two, now, problems - according to the links it just should work - because of the new versions of kernel and ALSA: . Voice redirection from mic. to speakers (they have mentioned on simplification of SB circuits - and I believe it is my case - therefore another mic. type is needed - do not know when - if ever - I obtain one); . Can not here my voice back from ekiga test numbers nor from the link above that You gave. - For both calls I can hear sound but it seems they do not hear me - though mic. volume meter of ekiga - changes as I speak, so mic. probably works but either it is not send over network (I checked my firewall and did not see relevelent droppings in my logs), or ekiga does not get mic. signal - but as its meter reflects when I speak, then I suppose it is wrong suggestion. I guess ekiga people should make a diagnostic tool - that audio/net problems might be inspected more accurate. Sthu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e1071.e51a700a.60e6.6...@mx.google.com
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:21:23AM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: Dear usernixes, According to: http://www.tp-link.com/lk/article/?id=171 There are routers (coincidentally, I have one of them) that accept a new device to establish a wireless connection without having to use password. The method is simple: 1- Push the QSS button on the router. 2- Run the QSS.EXE program on your windows machine in 2 minutes after you pressed the QSS button. That is it! You are now connected! But, hey! QSS.EXE? How can we do it in our debian? The generic term for this is Wifi Protected Setup or WPS. Support isn't terribly well integrated into linux's wireless tools at the moment, but you can install reaver (apt-get install reaver), which should help you get connected. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
lvcreate throws error : device not cleared
Dear list, I'm with debian wheezy with lvm2 2.02.95-4. whenever I try to execute lvcreate it fails. Here is the output of such a command `` #lvcreate -v -n root -L 80G mygroup Setting logging type to disk Finding volume group mygroup Archiving volume group mygroup metadata (seqno 7). Creating logical volume root Creating volume group backup /etc/lvm/backup/mygroup (seqno 8). Found volume group mygroup activation/volume_list configuration setting not defined: Checking only host tags for mygroup/root Creating mygroup-root Loading mygroup-root table (254:1) Resuming mygroup-root (254:1) Clearing start of logical volume root /dev/mygroup/root: not found: device not cleared Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV. Found volume group mygroup Removing mygroup-root (254:1) Creating volume group backup /etc/lvm/backup/mygroup (seqno 9). semid 7340034: semop failed for cookie 0xd4ddd6c: incorrect semaphore state Failed to set a proper state for notification semaphore identified by cookie value 223206764 (0xd4ddd6c) to initialize waiting for incoming notifications. ` Am I missing anything ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817153019.07ad8...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: lvcreate throws error : device not cleared
http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?id=1206 This might help On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:00 PM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I'm with debian wheezy with lvm2 2.02.95-4. whenever I try to execute lvcreate it fails. Here is the output of such a command `` #lvcreate -v -n root -L 80G mygroup Setting logging type to disk Finding volume group mygroup Archiving volume group mygroup metadata (seqno 7). Creating logical volume root Creating volume group backup /etc/lvm/backup/mygroup (seqno 8). Found volume group mygroup activation/volume_list configuration setting not defined: Checking only host tags for mygroup/root Creating mygroup-root Loading mygroup-root table (254:1) Resuming mygroup-root (254:1) Clearing start of logical volume root /dev/mygroup/root: not found: device not cleared Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV. Found volume group mygroup Removing mygroup-root (254:1) Creating volume group backup /etc/lvm/backup/mygroup (seqno 9). semid 7340034: semop failed for cookie 0xd4ddd6c: incorrect semaphore state Failed to set a proper state for notification semaphore identified by cookie value 223206764 (0xd4ddd6c) to initialize waiting for incoming notifications. ` Am I missing anything ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817153019.07ad8...@shiva.selfip.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagwvfmkucwtfdz4grh7mowbnsperooc_0snp3sf1yckt0wl...@mail.gmail.com
Versioned vs. unversioned dependecies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, firs, please do cc to me as I have not subscribed this list. I have the problem that I do not have alsa and will never have as it never worked for me. It is instable, have poor sound ... However, on the other hand oss4 is working very well for me. Unfortunately, as sound tools uses /dev/dsp (oss api) in the past, more and more applications only support alsa today. To make that workable with oss one has to install the hack liboss4-salsa-asound2. This has a conflict and a provide for libasound2. But now it is not possible to deinstall libasound2 (well, it is and everything except the package management work well without libasound2) so it is not possible to use this package. The reason seams to be that every package has a versioned dependency for libasound2 which seems not to be working with provides. Is there any way to have liboss4-salsa-asound2 installed on debian? And is there any way to overwrite the versioned dependencies? Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen kl...@ethgen.de Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJQLhcgAAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasyEAL/j64XNwOsZkte8DlrAyVlIzm scZGRKnGo/G5V7+OCfcqy6uiNbUfG07wJHEI5g8+kDObsjkVe0As/diN8ujF4agl vQnR+88P/Nm5F3gV8x/hdFTb+kJd8jPNo/EExx++F7B1Z4INdY2Us2XWnt4ZsrGC aPTOL3SGZjXKyxFfRHDMBDZAwvioaA0uzc0GlD3piaJO4J8WyQmlIDU6ViGyqfUu k8wfx6Q6kL4ilAspVV2YHva/Da3rO5qMYpRS9LKfveXjRTQZuVyrVB1tNBFteGD8 k/rTvRVp6IXXG9ej3PfmihH/9bit05tAKrMpDUnAVJ4wS5MuSd1Widv/sac52TbU s2hFUXR2dufODDRLyC4QHRhvMjQk5UzwWBDI5elIf8XBsvfRxz7aA3GLL19QFaEn jgF1M/XdVbRGxlgsEzw7mszwNaOOGu2WPQ+FtWHGXRQ7Uw7od13rlMdhplW5tlbM 0N7MwIuNQOaDObCQo4myuTPXoDOyOF9S3oWtPe45lg== =d9rt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817100416.ga6...@ikki.ethgen.ch
Re: lvcreate throws error : device not cleared
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:28 PM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, [-Z n] only works with a warrning -Z, --zero y/n Controls zeroing of the first KB of data in the new logical volume. Default is yes. Warning: trying to mount an unzeroed logical volume can cause the system to hang. so be careful. i haven't tried this either. for further reference check this http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_lvcreate.htm [...] WARNING: root not zeroed Logical volume root created [...] What does it mean and will it create any issue in future ? TIA On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:18:41 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?id=1206 This might help On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:00 PM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I'm with debian wheezy with lvm2 2.02.95-4. whenever I try to execute lvcreate it fails. Here is the output of such a command `` #lvcreate -v -n root -L 80G mygroup Setting logging type to disk Finding volume group mygroup Archiving volume group mygroup metadata (seqno 7). Creating logical volume root Creating volume group backup /etc/lvm/backup/mygroup (seqno 8). Found volume group mygroup activation/volume_list configuration setting not defined: Checking only host tags for mygroup/root Creating mygroup-root Loading mygroup-root table (254:1) Resuming mygroup-root (254:1) Clearing start of logical volume root /dev/mygroup/root: not found: device not cleared Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV. Found volume group mygroup Removing mygroup-root (254:1) Creating volume group backup /etc/lvm/backup/mygroup (seqno 9). semid 7340034: semop failed for cookie 0xd4ddd6c: incorrect semaphore state Failed to set a proper state for notification semaphore identified by cookie value 223206764 (0xd4ddd6c) to initialize waiting for incoming notifications. ` Am I missing anything ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817153019.07ad8...@shiva.selfip.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfM=lfbmhak7htt3aqgcoilmmbgll6yzbrsw1fo7rog2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: lvcreate throws error : device not cleared
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:28 PM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, [-Z n] only works with a warrning -Z, --zero y/n Controls zeroing of the first KB of data in the new logical volume. Default is yes. FYI it is just a work around. let see if others might help with some detailed suggestion. Warning: trying to mount an unzeroed logical volume can cause the system to hang. so be careful. i haven't tried this either. for further reference check this http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_lvcreate.htm [...] WARNING: root not zeroed Logical volume root created [...] What does it mean and will it create any issue in future ? TIA On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:18:41 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?id=1206 This might help On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:00 PM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I'm with debian wheezy with lvm2 2.02.95-4. whenever I try to execute lvcreate it fails. Here is the output of such a command `` #lvcreate -v -n root -L 80G mygroup Setting logging type to disk Finding volume group mygroup Archiving volume group mygroup metadata (seqno 7). Creating logical volume root Creating volume group backup /etc/lvm/backup/mygroup (seqno 8). Found volume group mygroup activation/volume_list configuration setting not defined: Checking only host tags for mygroup/root Creating mygroup-root Loading mygroup-root table (254:1) Resuming mygroup-root (254:1) Clearing start of logical volume root /dev/mygroup/root: not found: device not cleared Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV. Found volume group mygroup Removing mygroup-root (254:1) Creating volume group backup /etc/lvm/backup/mygroup (seqno 9). semid 7340034: semop failed for cookie 0xd4ddd6c: incorrect semaphore state Failed to set a proper state for notification semaphore identified by cookie value 223206764 (0xd4ddd6c) to initialize waiting for incoming notifications. ` Am I missing anything ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817153019.07ad8...@shiva.selfip.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfMnkTMzBBBWAWMEfvCf=von5pwrh82sj_k9bp0p5rle...@mail.gmail.com
Re: lvcreate throws error : device not cleared
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:36:27 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:28 PM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, [-Z n] only works with a warrning -Z, --zero y/n Controls zeroing of the first KB of data in the new logical volume. Default is yes. FYI it is just a work around. let see if others might help with some detailed suggestion. Thanks, I'll be glad to hear any alternative fix without zeroing -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817160933.3b194...@shiva.selfip.org
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Re: Versioned vs. unversioned dependecies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Klaus, Klaus Ethgen kl...@ethgen.ch wrote: firs, please do cc to me as I have not subscribed this list. Done :) But now it is not possible to deinstall libasound2 (well, it is and everything except the package management work well without libasound2) so it is not possible to use this package. The reason seams to be that every package has a versioned dependency for libasound2 which seems not to be working with provides. Yes. From Debian Policy 7.5 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual: | If a relationship field has a version number attached, only real | packages will be considered to see whether the relationship is | satisfied (or the prohibition violated, for a conflict or | breakage). In other words, if a version number is specified, this is a | request to ignore all Provides for that package name and consider only | real packages. The package manager will assume that a package | providing that virtual package is not of the right version. A | Provides field may not contain version numbers, and the version number | of the concrete package which provides a particular virtual package | will not be considered when considering a dependency on or conflict | with the virtual package name. Is there any way to have liboss4-salsa-asound2 installed on debian? And is there any way to overwrite the versioned dependencies? If it wasn't for the Conflicts: statement in liboss4-salsa-asound2, you could create a ‘real’ package libasound2 with a sufficiently high version number using equivs. Then, you could adapt the control statements of liboss4-salsa-asound2 to remove the Conflicts: statement (doable, especially if you run stable and seldomly face upgrades). You could also try asking all the maintainers of the packages depending on libasound2 to please use something like | Depends: libasound2 (= a.b) | liboss4-salsa-asound2 (= c.d) However, I doubt that this is a viable approach, since OSS is rather deprecated on Linux (maybe the kFreeBSD folks would like such a scheme, though) and there are _many_ packages which just depend on libasound2. But, on the other hand, you could argue that some packages already do this, for example, java-package, gimp or libao4 (check with apt-cache rdepends libasound2). Best regards, Claudius - -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQLh/PAAoJEMCBEuXXLNukMkkP+wdNwdhgPwAZ4VO5IH0bL+XI jM/qe7nhpHta2dNJst4SY8KWO7X1UWB5hH99R6OvWHW1SOuDg7lTNf9iS/IAdFHa lVPWfuDFFQ3OZhL2lCSMAIiSbkJ74C5bZX1E8hymIJ9hGUgfyGx/GmyeFonik9By NZSD913KAK/KP2RdArI/PTWFwMXNm1S2xfk3ZO8v7XuySzpweRsicCYj4BXZfhQW 9Yp5HxuxMyZ/2XYRc0HC30b/Lw4L7h7bjnKoD6xNlQ8JsGj5R/yx8ZUfn6YogALD Mh7JX5CiUtY21GdIPlh5R1CcpC2YLj9750koZ25fdPfrn39jGz+FHD/fxadHIAFF NOC5GSaINLjULjWi89k4jXBGZgNt0elvoZasuD7ALST58hBEVSqylEgEVpTsnlVD WoST6a1UY+j+px+qYRJt3RXfyK3Co/tTEwI4KuRwAc0KNMmoOrtkTMV9UGZxkW65 XktZ1AgXsN/tITi2P+PIOuBlPvbWNWPWSBEa9pEiatLstbO/7NUYf/udyRxalQpl 5yW/ZUMlLDlr9WWSscCIaX3RhrXaFp/r7QgiNhX3EN0eKUXGVkxFyaF4FWs88fxJ ah+cgedGCvvTB8QkShgdqwvIzcS5mYCC9pGcTAL5HYu8vOmdB6MPi8PEiolK8GY3 y9jiZJFaGx57uzBk7x/d =5oBd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
best filesystem for logical volume ?
Hello list, any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817165340.2d9c8...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Thursday 09 August 2012 19:54:32 Joe wrote: Knoppix hasn't come on a CD for a long time (I have a copy of one of the last CD versions, and it fixed a grub problem when nothing else would) but even on DVD, it has used LXDE for a year or two. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en-GBas_q=knoppix+cdas_epq=as_oq=as_eq=as_nlo=as_nhi=lr=cr=as_qdr=mas_sitesearch=as_occt=safe=imagesas_filetype=as_rights=not+filtered+by+licence Third hit. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208171243.32749.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:23 AM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? i use zfs for everything except / (includes /boot as grub doesn't support it). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAH_OBifHuZvKjgLqES1-MhN_USAtB1LACTRM50C+Usv=5c_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 07:49:40 -0400 shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:23 AM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? i use zfs for everything except / (includes /boot as grub doesn't support it). Is it better than ext4 and reiserfs ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817172810.14edf...@shiva.selfip.org
on the way of encrypting a system, need some help please
Dear list, I have bought a new HDD. Created 2 partitions. An un-encrypted 1 GB /boot as a separate partition on the Disk. And on the rest (2nd partition) an encrypted LVM with root and home as two logical volume on it. Now I like to migrate my running system, the running / to the root of logical volume, but /boot ( which is actually a folder in my running system) should go to the unencrypted /boot of the new disk. and the running /home to the home of logical volume. So that I can get my running system on the new encrypted disk and can boot from there. Obviously I need to modify /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.cfg on the logical volume. How can I proceed ? Any suggestion will be life savior. TIA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817175716.33f64...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
J. B: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? There is no useful answer to that question. The quality of a filesystem does not depend on whether it is used on an LV or on a partition. J. -- After the millenium I would tell lies only to those who deserved them. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
On Fri 17 Aug 2012 at 10:52:30 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:21:23AM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: Dear usernixes, According to: http://www.tp-link.com/lk/article/?id=171 There are routers (coincidentally, I have one of them) that accept a new device to establish a wireless connection without having to use password. The method is simple: 1- Push the QSS button on the router. 2- Run the QSS.EXE program on your windows machine in 2 minutes after you pressed the QSS button. That is it! You are now connected! But, hey! QSS.EXE? How can we do it in our debian? The generic term for this is Wifi Protected Setup or WPS. Support isn't terribly well integrated into linux's wireless tools at the moment, but you can install reaver (apt-get install reaver), which should help you get connected. Why is a brute force attack program needed to use something which is integrated into wpa_supplicant and wpa_gui? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817123623.GC17647@desktop
Informazioni per installazione Debian
Egr. Sigg. vorrei installare Linux su una partizione di circa 2gb di un IBM ThinkPad 380XD. E' un vecchio portatile, che, nella partizione principale, riesce a fare girare Windows Millenium. Vorrei sapere quale distribuzione Debian mi consigliate tenendo presente che vorrei anche usare la porta USB a disposizione del PC per collegarvi una chiavetta per la navigazione in internet. La chiavetta viene riconosciuta da Windows Millenium ma il software che la gestisce funziona solo su Windows Xp, Vista, o Linux. Ho provato varie distribuzioni da Ubuntu, a Mandrake, a Damn Small, senza successo. Le installazioni si bloccavano per incompatibilità con l'hardware molto probabilmente troppo obsoleto. Grazie anticipatamente Cordiali saluti Lorenzo Tazzari
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 05:28:10PM +0530, J. B wrote: Is it better than ext4 and reiserfs ? No. (a more detailed answer may be provided with a more detailed description of your requirements :)) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817130818.GD17970@debian
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 01:36:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Fri 17 Aug 2012 at 10:52:30 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:21:23AM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: Dear usernixes, According to: http://www.tp-link.com/lk/article/?id=171 There are routers (coincidentally, I have one of them) that accept a new device to establish a wireless connection without having to use password. The method is simple: 1- Push the QSS button on the router. 2- Run the QSS.EXE program on your windows machine in 2 minutes after you pressed the QSS button. That is it! You are now connected! But, hey! QSS.EXE? How can we do it in our debian? The generic term for this is Wifi Protected Setup or WPS. Support isn't terribly well integrated into linux's wireless tools at the moment, but you can install reaver (apt-get install reaver), which should help you get connected. Why is a brute force attack program needed to use something which is integrated into wpa_supplicant and wpa_gui? Is it? Last time I looked it wasn't. If wpa_supplicant handles it now, then that's a lot easier. (Perhaps updating the apt summary might've helped me :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Aug 17, 2012 9:08 AM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 05:28:10PM +0530, J. B wrote: Is it better than ext4 and reiserfs ? No. (a more detailed answer may be provided with a more detailed description of your requirements :)) I agree with what others have said. Ie, what is your purpose for wanting volume manager? (Zft doesn't use lvm btw, it bakes it in)
Re: Backup
On 08/17/2012 04:20 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 17/08/12 04:40 AM, Emil Payne wrote: I have a 1 TB external USB drive with 362 GB used. I'd like to do a full backup to DVDs and then an incremental (or something) backup every month or two, also to DVDs or CDs. I'd like the backups to be compressed in order to save space (i.e. - the number of DVDs/CDs used). What is a good program to do this with? Or, what is a good step of different programs to do this with? I'm a home user with decent knowledge of Debian/Linux, but not a shell programmer. Depending on your data, compression may or may not be useful. Video and audio data is usually already optimally compressed. 4.5G on a DVD is also not terribly useful if you want to back up large amounts of data. BluRay writers are cheap enough these days, and BD-RE discs are not too expensive. BD-R discs are even cheaper for doing an archival backup. You don't say what you are backing up. If it is the data on the external drive, you may want to consider getting a second drive and backing up to that. It's a lot easier than manually swapping discs. In this case, you could try Bacula. It's not too difficult to set up and quite flexible. All the folders in my home folder (except desktop) is a link to a folder on the backup drive. These are: Backups, Documents, Downloads, Favorites, Memos, Music, MyPDA, Pictures, Programs, Projects, Public, Temp, Templates, Themes, Utilities Videos. Also, I have the entire filesystem for this computer and for a separate Windows 7 computer copied in tar.gz format. (I connect the drive directly to the Windows box via the usb cable to do that.) There is also a separate Backup folder on the backup drive where I have a couple of programs running backups /home, /opt /var and where I also back up cells phones for friends and relatives (8 at the moment) and things like my camera and Palm PDA SD cards. (Speaking of tar.gz; what is a good format for compression for this varied type of info? I've access to about 20 different formats on this box.) This is the type of stuff I want to make a safe backup of. I've already lost all the info on the drive once several months back when someone defragged it when it was hooked up to the windows box. I have a ton of old CDs collected from about 10 years of use that I was able to (with a lot of pain and work) get quite a bit of data back from. The suggestion of a blue ray drive and disk or a secondary drive sound like a good one. Any other suggestions for things I haven't thought of? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e5025.4070...@yahoo.com
Re: Wheezy and Sun-Java
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:14:58 -0300, Dr Beco wrote: I wonder, this solutions give us not only JDK or JRE, but also the plugin, don't they? The plugin's included in jre and jdk - if you don't see it in about:plugins most likely the symlink to libnpjp2.so has gone missing. The debian-way of adding this link is to place an entry called mozilla-javaplugin.so to /etc/alternatives : sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mozilla-javaplugin.so mozilla-javaplugin.so /usr/lib/jvm/j2sdk1.6-oracle/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so 3 sudo update-alternatives --config mozilla-javaplugin.so choose your weapon there if you got multiple solutions after that consider testing java @ http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp - it might complain java 7 is out, but you can ignore that until February/2013, just make sure to keep java6 up to date. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/blu0-smtp198de651ded5b16648b7c3ad8...@phx.gbl
Changing to digest form
Hi I'm presently using the standard form of this mailing list and wish to change to the digest form. Can I just re-subscribe to the digest form or do I have to unsubscribe from the standard for as well. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e5788.5060...@verizon.net
Re: videos not playing ... sometimes
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:38:43 -0700, prad wrote: i'm using squeeze stable and gnome. sometimes youtube vids play just fine, but after a while they don't play at all through firefox, but will through epiphany. What do you mean by don't play? What's showed instead the video? if i download a video, i can't always play it either on movieplayer or mplayer. however, put it on another machine and there's no problem (so the download is obviously fine). Are these videos also flashplayer based movies or different media files (mpeg, avi...)? Anyway, if you launch the video from command line probably you will get more information on why it fails to load. it's almost as though some cache or other gets filled up and vids stop playing. the machine i use is a quad core with 7G memory. any ideas on what the problem might be? Firefox has its own cache management system but the video you play locally is only limited by your system resources and given the specs on your computer this shouldn't be a problem. Anyway, you can check for your free space with df -h. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0ll6n$o53$7...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Wheezy and Sun-Java
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:59:21 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:48:51 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: So, if your bank doesn't work with OpenJDK 7, then your bank is wrong. I see you're still trying to use Oracle Java 6 (the old standard), have you tried OpenJDK Java 7 at all (the new, blessed by Oracle, standard)? Nah, that never works. You cant't modify the way a bank (or any other non- public institution) works and develops its applications. This is kinda chicken-egg problem which usually ends up in either these two ways: 1/ You quit from your bank/company and put your money elsewhere (not always a viable option). 2/ You install the tool they require (this usually costs less and has minor drawbacks). Right, however, I wasn't suggesting attempting to change the way the bank works. I'm saying that Oracle's JRE 6 worked with the bank while OpenJDK's JRE 6 did not. Yes, but that's usually a problem coming from the programming side, not from the JRE itself, I mean, nothing a code fix can't solve :-) Perhaps as Oracle developed version 7, the necessary support for the OP's bank may have been incorporated into OpenJDK's JRE 7 and that perhaps he should try it to see if it works. Yes, but the OP already said he tried so but it failed (copy/paste from his first post): (...) Unfortunately, my internet baking does not recognize openjdk. Only sun-java seems to work. When calling technical support, the attendant insist I should upgrade to the last sun-java plugin. There is simply no alternatives for me. Meaning: 1/ Stay with your current bank. 2/ Try OpenJDK 7 because you may be surprised and it may work as well as Oracle JRE 6. The second point is what I think it failed but maybe is that the user did not try enough... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0llm5$o53$8...@ger.gmane.org
Re: removing printers
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 23:52:00 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 16/08/12 07:40 PM, John Lindsay wrote: I have a HP P1102w printer. I turned off the printer and computer while away for several days. When I powered up the units, it wouldn't print. Somehow I have managed to get the following printers on the print manager original Hewlett-Packard_HP_Laserjet_Professional_P1102w one I created in trying to fix things HP_Laserjet_Professional_P1102w which did not work and this one which I created by following the information on this URL http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html It created HP_Laserjet_Professional_P1102w_2. This one works. How do I get rid of the 1st two so that if my wife wants to print something she is not confused as to which one to use? Go to http://loclahost:631/ (or the IP address of your print server), select the printers tab and remove the ones you don't want. I'd go that way. Another possibilities would be a/ using hp-toolbox, select the desired printer and remove it, b/ using the desktop environment default printer applet (if any) or c/ by command line (e.g., lpadmin -x printer). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lmb7$o53$9...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Re: An inline bitmap in an HTML file.
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:47:30 -0800, peasthope wrote: Why? My first Google search turned up the example in the w3.org page cited in the original query. I see... but you really mean you were not aware that there existed the img tag for displaying images in html? Don't you like the img tag? :-? So many choices. Will try img. :-) The object tag is mainly used to load another kind of content (java applets, multimedia files and all kind of external/non native plugins, in general). A good source for getting the basics on html and related technologies is this site: http://www.w3schools.com you mean the image at the bottom (Product Diagrams)? Correct. Maybe I'm missing something but I can see the image rendered using Firefox 14.0.1 :-? Yes, with the correction from Manuel Cremer it works. Ah! I saw the one that was already working, sorry :-P http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Category2.xhtml was developed first. The SVG diagrams there are displayed correctly by Iceweasel but not by some browers. For them I am making Category2.html with png diagrams. Yes, SVG is not well supported in many Internet Explorer versions, for instance. Thanks for recommending img, ... Peter E. You're welcome. Note there's a slight difference when using object and img tags. Look, if you open the page: http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Category2.html#Product0x0Test0 Rigth-click over the image and choose view image info, there's no preliminary view, it appears to be broken. This can be good (to avoid being scanned by bots) or bad (the web browser cannot cache the source). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lndt$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Wheezy and Sun-Java
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:14:58 -0300, Dr Beco wrote: Message-id: 502ced75.4010...@gmail.com (keeping this helps index?) Not at all :-) Dear Alex and Lou, You guys hit the money as broom yields honey! (Email to point another *good* SOLUTION to this problem) Download .deb package for sun-java here: https://github.com/rraptorr/oracle-java7 or here (old): https://github.com/rraptorr/sun-java6 Mmm... be very cautelous when installing packages from external sources. Or make your own package as explained here: http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2012/02/29/java_package_replacement_of_sun_java6 Just download the *.bin and use (for example): $make-jpkg ~/Downloads/jdk-6u31-linux-x64.bin I wonder what's the deal in getting the file from Oracle site¹ and follow the installation instructions. The only problem can be when using a 64 bits OS or browser, otherwise there shouldn't be any issue. I wonder, this solutions give us not only JDK or JRE, but also the plugin, don't they? Can't tell, but it should be bundled with the package. ¹http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lo22$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:21:23 -0300, Dr Beco wrote: (...) But, hey! QSS.EXE? How can we do it in our debian? You can't (unless you run wine) so don't run it and proceed with the usual configuration steps to setup your wireless AP ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lo7p$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
We have been using LVM with ext4 for a variety of workloads (webservers, fileservers and mailservers) for quite some time, without performance problems. As others have said, the performance depends most on the workload you will use than in the best filesystem. Best, On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:23 AM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817165340.2d9c8...@shiva.selfip.org -- Pedro Eugênio Rocha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAM3FfDw-CEU5EsNVE14CoZPiQJkNR-DKwc_W0YCJ3wBU309h=q...@mail.gmail.com
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:53:40 +0530, J. B wrote: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? A logical volume for what, exactly? I'm very happy with ReiserFS, I use it for the / partition in my servers, workstations and desktops since I'm a linux user and never gave me a problem. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0loop$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Changing to digest form
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 07:39:04 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I'm presently using the standard form of this mailing list and wish to change to the digest form. If you want to post replies, I wouldn't do it :-/ Can I just re-subscribe to the digest form or do I have to unsubscribe from the standard for as well. You will have to unsusbscribe for one (normal) and then subscribe for the other (digest) but again, reconsider it... if you don't want to store messages in your hard disk you can use a newsreader and NNTP, no subscription nor local space needed. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lovp$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:27:46 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: On 8/15/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: How about Free Pascal and the Lazarus IDE? As I have understood, it's the linux counterpart for Turbo Pascal :-? Hmm. Breaking out synaptic, I see that there are metapackages for lazarus and freepascal. A quick note about this. I don't recall what debian flavour you're running but if you finally decide to give these applications a chance, ensure you install the latest available versions (wheezy/sid should be fine but squeze may include an old release; if that's the case, the upstream project usually provide updated precompiled packages for many distributions). The lazarus metapackage loads the gtk2 variant of the ide. Any thoughts about the qt4 variant? (I'm inclined to go with the metapackage if I do this, QT has never been anything but opaque to me, so far.) Can't comment on the packages themselves, sorry, I never used Lazarus/ Freepascal before but this is what users recommend as a replacement for TurboPascal. Wow! 109M download, 691M of disk space expected to be used. Wow, that's *a lot*. Well, I do have the free space, and I see that part of that is gdb and other dev stuff I need anyway. Consider installing that big amount of data in a virtual machine instead filling up your disk in a very insane way because if you finally don't like it, it's easier to delete a VM than having to remove those packages ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lq8v$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Backup
On 17.08.2012 16:07, Emil Payne wrote: The suggestion of a blue ray drive and disk or a secondary drive sound like a good one. Hi Emil, if you choose a second hard drive maybe you want to take a look at rsnapshot. It doesn't do compression, but it can also save you a lot of space if you want to keep several backups (keeping data for several days on a daily backup basis for example). rsnapshot uses hardlinks so that files that didn't change aren't saved again but every backup looks like a full backup. Example: 452G/backup/daily.0/ 18G /backup/daily.1/ 534M/backup/daily.2/ 534M/backup/daily.3/ 532M/backup/daily.4/ 446M/backup/daily.5/ 444M/backup/daily.6/ 471Gtotal daily.0 is a full backup from today. daily.1 contains changed files from yesterday, daily.2 the files from the day before yesterday, and so on. So I can go back 7 days without having to backup 450GB each day. So you don't have to clean up your backup by hand but still there is some time to notice that some files gone lost on your machine. Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e6dc5.4030...@concepts-and-training.de
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:31:06 -0400 shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 17, 2012 9:08 AM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 05:28:10PM +0530, J. B wrote: Is it better than ext4 and reiserfs ? No. (a more detailed answer may be provided with a more detailed description of your requirements :)) I agree with what others have said. Ie, what is your purpose for wanting volume manager? (Zft doesn't use lvm btw, it bakes it in) Yes, I need a file-system for LVM and that's why searching the best combination. So gar I found at net that ext4 is good for lvm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817215530.022a9...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:42:17 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:53:40 +0530, J. B wrote: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? A logical volume for what, exactly? Full disk encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817215622.650d1...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: Sound kaput after dist-upgrade on 15-8-2012
kaput means dead...! I've removed flashplayer-mozilla..didn't care for it anyway, and suspected it had something to do with buggering up my sound. However after purging still nothing. Now I haven't rebooted yet and I may be blaming the harmless flashplayer unjustly, but I'm I the 'only' one that has lost their sound in unstable? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a9789sfb5...@mid.individual.net
Re: Nagios shows only one Host (Services)
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:05:11 +0200, Denis Witt wrote: after upgrade to Wheezy one of my Nagios installation shows only one (of three) hosts on Services-Page. On the Hosts-Page all three machines are listed and I can even go to the Status-Detail-Page. Another Nagios instance works fine. I've uploaded my config here: http://paste.debian.net/184146/ Any ideas? If you already discarded a problem from the configuration file, I would try to stop and then start the service to ensure there's only one instance up and running. I say this because I've read some reports from users experiencing this problem of hosts/services not showing up when several instances have been started. Ah, look, it is documented: Hosts and services intermittently disappear from the web interface http://support.nagios.com/knowledgebase/faqs/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=52catid=35faq_id=21expand=falseshowdesc=true Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lrg0$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:56:22 +0530, J. B wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:42:17 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:53:40 +0530, J. B wrote: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? A logical volume for what, exactly? Full disk encryption Fine but better if yu can expand that, because it says little about the system main usage. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lrka$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:06 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:56:22 +0530, J. B wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:42:17 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:53:40 +0530, J. B wrote: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? A logical volume for what, exactly? Full disk encryption Fine but better if yu can expand that, because it says little about the system main usage. Sure My laptop have i5 CPU with 3GB RAM. I bought a new disk and want to create LVM on it, except /boot And finally transfer all data to that DISK. So I am in search of a filesystem which can give me better performance. The system will have apache+mysql+postfix as well as the desktop system KDE. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817221953.39815...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: Backup
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:40:41 -0500, Emil Payne wrote: I have a 1 TB external USB drive with 362 GB used. I'd like to do a full backup to DVDs and then an incremental (or something) backup every month or two, also to DVDs or CDs. I'd like the backups to be compressed in order to save space (i.e. - the number of DVDs/CDs used). Optical media storage is a PITA for big amounts of data (it's very slow and hard to manage when you intend to do rewrite operations). What is a good program to do this with? Or, what is a good step of different programs to do this with? I'm a home user with decent knowledge of Debian/Linux, but not a shell programmer. There are some tools for the task. MondoMindi supports CD/DVD though is usually for cloning rather than backups. Then there are the usual GUI based tools such as dkopp, fwbackups, simple backup, kbackup, box backup... and backup2l, backup-manager or backupninja (command line) which seem to be specifically for CD/DVD although I would still prefer a simple tar script :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lstv$o53$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 22:19:53 +0530, J. B wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:06 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? A logical volume for what, exactly? Full disk encryption Fine but better if yu can expand that, because it says little about the system main usage. Sure My laptop have i5 CPU with 3GB RAM. I bought a new disk and want to create LVM on it, except /boot And finally transfer all data to that DISK. So I am in search of a filesystem which can give me better performance. The system will have apache+mysql+postfix as well as the desktop system KDE. So basically you are planning to use the system for a common desktop usage. Considering your hardware the filesystem would be almost irrelevant so I'd go for either ext3/4 which has more tools for recovering after a disaster and is well tested/supported. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0lugr$o53$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Aug 17, 2012 12:50 PM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:06 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:56:22 +0530, J. B wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:42:17 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:53:40 +0530, J. B wrote: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? A logical volume for what, exactly? Full disk encryption Fine but better if yu can expand that, because it says little about the system main usage. Sure My laptop have i5 CPU with 3GB RAM. I bought a new disk and want to create LVM on it, except /boot And finally transfer all data to that DISK. So I am in search of a filesystem which can give me better performance. The system will have apache+mysql+postfix as well as the desktop system KDE. First, the bottleneck is going to be your hardware - laptop disks suck (they don't spin as fast). Otoh, if this is SSD, you've got other issues to consider. Ie, if the key is compromised, good luck wiping the data. Second, what you're describing is a dev box (or more likely a playground). Now, while it would've been cool if someone had built a formula one track on my playground I think more toys in the sandbox would've given a better bang foe the buck. What I'm saying is, who cares? I hear lvm has overhead anyway, but maybe that's another matter. Maybe you should just go read about all of the file systems and use the one that gives you the moat warm and fuzzies. There's the long standing defacto ext, there's the wife killer's reiser (also on sles iirc), there's the badly licensed zfs, the old (but very good - made for six ~20 years ago) xfs.
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:20:27 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 22:19:53 +0530, J. B wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:06 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: any recommendation about the best file system for logical volume ? A logical volume for what, exactly? Full disk encryption Fine but better if yu can expand that, because it says little about the system main usage. Sure My laptop have i5 CPU with 3GB RAM. I bought a new disk and want to create LVM on it, except /boot And finally transfer all data to that DISK. So I am in search of a filesystem which can give me better performance. The system will have apache+mysql+postfix as well as the desktop system KDE. So basically you are planning to use the system for a common desktop usage. Considering your hardware the filesystem would be almost irrelevant so I'd go for either ext3/4 which has more tools for recovering after a disaster and is well tested/supported. Greetings, Thanks for your response. I'm already formatted with ext4 :-) Though I'm little confused now. As per the tutorial /boot should be un-encrypted. But I got some doc at net where /boot is also encrypted. Can you please help me to solve the puzzle ? I'm following http://kirriwa.net/john/doc/lvm+raid1.html#step3 TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817231201.6fe12...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: iscsi debian. suggestion needed
Any help please ? :) On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, i am looking into HA (or in other words to minimize restoration process time) for virtualization in linux. i am using debian as a base system KVM-Qemu as virtual environment. now i am exploring different methods of HA. like DRBD, Rsync or ISCSI. so that if main server hardware fails then other system would serve the purpose. with out wasting my time in restoring backup. so is there any one who is using linux ISCI SAN box for their virtualization rather dell, or any other vendor. so just wanted to know the pros and cons / stability / complexity . since i am already dived into Linux so study wont be an issue. and of course i know that LAN card can only give me around 1GB throughput. but my data transmit is not that huge. we are a small company with 25 nodes and i think more or less 1 GB would be more then enough. any suggestion would be highly appreciated. Thanks, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfMk1yQeQCTmMLKUjxXwbN7aovQv5YtKsah=iv69zjfw...@mail.gmail.com
Re (2): [OT] Re: An inline bitmap in an HTML file.
From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:19:25 + (UTC) ... really mean you were not aware that there existed the img tag for displaying images in html? Used img border= ... in many places. In this instance I became so preoccupied with transforming the example to my case, that img didn't cross my mind. Tunnel vision or tunnel thinking. Incidentally, http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Category2.html#Product0x0Test0 has two artifacts which are noticeable on comparison with http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Category2.xhtml . I used convert from Imagemagick to make the png from the svg. Regards, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Telephone +13606390202. Bcc: peter at easthope.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057617.44073.26244@cantor.invalid
Re: Backup
On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:40:41 -0500, Emil Payne wrote: I have a 1 TB external USB drive with 362 GB used. I'd like to do a full backup to DVDs and then an incremental (or something) backup every month or two, also to DVDs or CDs. I'd like the backups to be compressed in order to save space (i.e. - the number of DVDs/CDs used). Optical media storage is a PITA for big amounts of data (it's very slow and hard to manage when you intend to do rewrite operations). I really hate to be the old fogey here, but if you've got the $$, tape sure does a good job. Use Amanda for both incrementals and fulls, and to reduce PITA, get cron to run them overnight. Or over the weekend, if you want to backup a lot of data, but infrequently. Optical disks and hard disks don't last. I have audio tapes from the 1950s that are still good. Tape has its disadvantages, but longevity isn't one of them... For backup, though, I'd suggest springing a little more media and telling Amanda to write uncompressed tarballs -- for reliability and ease of recovery from a major disaster. You can recover from an Amanda backup tape with nothing more than plain old tar. A major PITA, but it's possible. -- Glenn English -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/c0eaa8af-a77f-4e92-b70b-530bf5223...@slsware.com
Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:42 PM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: Though I'm little confused now. As per the tutorial /boot should be un-encrypted. But I got some doc at net where /boot is also encrypted. Can you please help me to solve the puzzle ? I'm following http://kirriwa.net/john/doc/lvm+raid1.html#step3 you can encrypt /boot as long as grub is aware of the schema iirc. but, this begs the question - why? do you store your web cache in /boot, or a db of your cc numbers, or your porn pics, or your kid's birthday picture? or do you care that someone might recover that you stored your kernel image on the second partition of the first disk? i personally don't see the need for full disk encryption. i mean, if you live in the US, a court order will keep you in jail or force you to give up the password vs if you have smaller encrypted files that no one finds (obfuscated in databases of pictures of a small encrypted file or some such scheme) that someone might now find. or, if you surf the net in a vm (as you should anyway) and encrypt the vm image, your browser data is safe if someone steals your computer. fwiw -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAH_OBieNTipwVEwwOiGLYwZQit-UcO=6m-yb0u6nppc9igw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Nagios shows only one Host (Services)
Hi Camaleon, thanks for your reply. Camaleón wrote: If you already discarded a problem from the configuration file, I would try to stop and then start the service to ensure there's only one instance up and running. I say this because I've read some reports from users experiencing this problem of hosts/services not showing up when several instances have been started. I check that and there was only one process running. I stopped and started the Daemon anyway, but nothing changed. Ah, look, it is documented: Hosts and services intermittently disappear from the web interface http://support.nagios.com/knowledgebase/faqs/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=52catid=35faq_id=21expand=falseshowdesc=true The Services/Hosts didn't disappear from time to time, only the exact same host is always shown with it services. The other two are missing, but I can access their services any time without problems if I go to the Hosts page (status.cgi?hostgroup=allstyle=hostdetail). From there I can choose View Status Detail For This Host and all services are shown fine. It's like there is some kind of setting saying Show only first host. (Limit Results is 100 per default but it doesn't matter if I set it to a higher value.) Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502e97bf.9060...@concepts-and-training.de
Re: Informazioni per installazione Debian
On Friday 17 August 2012 13:43:31 Lorenzo Tazzari wrote: Egr. Sigg. vorrei installare Linux su una partizione di circa 2gb di un IBM ThinkPad 380XD. E' un vecchio portatile, che, nella partizione principale, riesce a fare girare Windows Millenium. Vorrei sapere quale distribuzione Debian mi consigliate tenendo presente che vorrei anche usare la porta USB a disposizione del PC per collegarvi una chiavetta per la navigazione in internet. La chiavetta viene riconosciuta da Windows Millenium ma il software che la gestisce funziona solo su Windows Xp, Vista, o Linux. Ho provato varie distribuzioni da Ubuntu, a Mandrake, a Damn Small, senza successo. Le installazioni si bloccavano per incompatibilità con l'hardware molto probabilmente troppo obsoleto. Grazie anticipatamente Cordiali saluti Lorenzo Tazzari Lorenzo - You may need to install an old version of a distro on your hardware troppo obsoleto. One of the problems is that modern distros no longer carry the old drivers that you obviously need. When I first started using Linux, it prided itself on being backwards compatible, but sadly that is no longer the case. I have isos of various old distros, so could let you have a few to try, if you like, if you cannot find anything that might be suitable. They are mostly in English, though I think I have still got one or two German ones. Incidentally, this is an English speaking list. I would none-the-less have replied in Italian as well as English, but any knowledge I have of Italian is passive not active. :-( There is an Italian Debian users list, which you might find more useful: http://lists.debian.org/debian-italian/ Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208172026.23538.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Re (2): [OT] Re: An inline bitmap in an HTML file.
On 08/17/2012 08:48 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:19:25 + (UTC) ... really mean you were not aware that there existed the img tag for displaying images in html? Used img border= ... in many places. In this instance I became so preoccupied with transforming the example to my case, that img didn't cross my mind. Tunnel vision or tunnel thinking. Incidentally, http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Category2.html#Product0x0Test0 has two artifacts which are noticeable on comparison with http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Category2.xhtml . I used convert from Imagemagick to make the png from the svg. I did not try this with your SVG graphics as I did not bother to extract them from the XHTML source but you could probably try librsvg2-bin. The command rsvg [source] [destination] easily converts SVG to PNG. I also had some problems with convert's SVG rendering. It was too slow for my 300 MiB svg file and I found that rsvg did this much faster (and also used a lot more RAM). Regards, ... Peter E. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502ea0e8.6020...@web.de
Re: Backup
On 17/08/12 10:07 AM, Emil Payne wrote: On 08/17/2012 04:20 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 17/08/12 04:40 AM, Emil Payne wrote: I have a 1 TB external USB drive with 362 GB used. I'd like to do a full backup to DVDs and then an incremental (or something) backup every month or two, also to DVDs or CDs. I'd like the backups to be compressed in order to save space (i.e. - the number of DVDs/CDs used). What is a good program to do this with? Or, what is a good step of different programs to do this with? I'm a home user with decent knowledge of Debian/Linux, but not a shell programmer. Depending on your data, compression may or may not be useful. Video and audio data is usually already optimally compressed. 4.5G on a DVD is also not terribly useful if you want to back up large amounts of data. BluRay writers are cheap enough these days, and BD-RE discs are not too expensive. BD-R discs are even cheaper for doing an archival backup. You don't say what you are backing up. If it is the data on the external drive, you may want to consider getting a second drive and backing up to that. It's a lot easier than manually swapping discs. In this case, you could try Bacula. It's not too difficult to set up and quite flexible. All the folders in my home folder (except desktop) is a link to a folder on the backup drive. These are: Backups, Documents, Downloads, Favorites, Memos, Music, MyPDA, Pictures, Programs, Projects, Public, Temp, Templates, Themes, Utilities Videos. Also, I have the entire filesystem for this computer and for a separate Windows 7 computer copied in tar.gz format. (I connect the drive directly to the Windows box via the usb cable to do that.) There is also a separate Backup folder on the backup drive where I have a couple of programs running backups /home, /opt /var and where I also back up cells phones for friends and relatives (8 at the moment) and things like my camera and Palm PDA SD cards. (Speaking of tar.gz; what is a good format for compression for this varied type of info? I've access to about 20 different formats on this box.) This is the type of stuff I want to make a safe backup of. I've already lost all the info on the drive once several months back when someone defragged it when it was hooked up to the windows box. I have a ton of old CDs collected from about 10 years of use that I was able to (with a lot of pain and work) get quite a bit of data back from. The suggestion of a blue ray drive and disk or a secondary drive sound like a good one. Any other suggestions for things I haven't thought of? Whether or not optical is a PITA depends on how much data you have to back up. If it fits onto a single disc, it's great. Otherwise you may want to look at other options. BluRay can hold 24G - 45G depending on the number of layers. I haven't seen BD-RE in double layer yet, so assume 24G for now. For me, that's more than sufficient to back up all my work in a year. BD-RE is good for a long time, depending on usage, and is simple to use. I prefer lzma compression for tars. It's a bit slower than some, but gives really good compression. Never rely on a single backup. I keep multiple archives of old work on optical discs, in addition to a live copy and a live backup copy on a separate file system on the same RAID5 array. That's actually not all that safe (the RAID array could fail), but the live backup copy is mainly used if I accidentally delete the wrong file. I don't recommend backing up entire file systems very often. It's your data, not the programs, that are critical. You may also want to back up /etc since it contains your system settings and is highly compressible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502ea1c4.7080...@rogers.com
Long delay when shorewall/shorewall6 starts/stops
This has bugged me on and off most of this year since for some reason that I can't find, the shorewall/shorewall6 startup scripts have a pause of about a minute before the system start/shutdown can continue. Right now this affects both my desktop and laptop running Sid. My desktop's network connection is a wired Ethernet that is managed by the ifup/ifdown scripts. My laptop's wireless and wired interfaces are managed by WiCD. Right now in /etc/default/shorewall|shorewall6 is the variable 'wait_interface' that is undefined. A bit of testing shows the delay in the scripts is not related to this variable. After this I am stumped as the delay is deeper in Shorewall itself. This has gotten annoying enough that I'm seriously considering a firewall alternative. I like Shorewall as it is relatively easy to configure for new servers and such. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817193557.ga17...@n0nb.us
Re: Backup
On 17/08/12 10:40, Emil Payne wrote: I have a 1 TB external USB drive with 362 GB used. I'd like to do a full backup to DVDs and then an incremental (or something) backup every month or two, also to DVDs or CDs. I'd like the backups to be compressed in order to save space (i.e. - the number of DVDs/CDs used). What is a good program to do this with? Or, what is a good step of different programs to do this with? I'm a home user with decent knowledge of Debian/Linux, but not a shell programmer. FWIW, I gave up backing up to DVD when my data reached about 1/10 of the size of yours. Too slow, too cumbersome (having to change disks), too unreliable, to expensive etc. I suggest to buy one or better two other 1TB usb disks and backup to them (alternately). You don't need to be a shell programmer, a simple $ rsync -av /path/to/disk /path/to/backup followed by $ cp -al /path/to/backup /path/to/backup- where could be a number or a date, should be more efficient (and cheaper in the long run) than a pile of optical disks. Occasionally, you could use rsync's -c option to verify that your backup is ok. (/path/to/disk is the mount point of your existing disk; /path/to/backup is mountpoint and path of your backup disk) My 2ct, Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502eba27.2070...@aktendiener.de
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
Hi fellows, Thierry wrote: But, using a wired connection as in paragraph 3.1, 3.2, you should be able to use the QSS from the router thru your internet explorer as shown in 4.3 and later. Good luck!!! Thierry Thierry, I don't have windows in this machine, neither internet explorer (argh!), and the whole point of the button is to do a quick setup without the need to know admin password, or even the very wireless passphrase! So if I need to boot windows or use a wired cable, it is not looking so quick anymore. :) Darac, thanks, but I woudn't use brute force. I think reaver is more like a tool to help in an inhospitable situation. Brian wrote: You install and set up wpasupplicant to do it. After googling and researching I'm still in the dark. It looks like this is the way to go. But I never used it before. Is it like a PAM module that you set up in some config file? This site tells a lot about configuration, but nothing about WPS or QSS. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_install_wpa_supplicant When using wpa_supplicant, the examples need a passphrase or password. The man page also does not help: http://linux.die.net/man/5/wpa_supplicant.conf This site explains some config files in detail, but I still cant figure out how to make this thing work. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant I bet it is not that hard. After all, it is a quick setup! :) Edited: After trying wpa_cli, I could find a PBC push button! It connected my netbook to the router (successful connection message) , but I received no IP (IP field left blank). Any ideas or site with some tutorial? Thanks, Beco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2yNRbmGa3Hr6sSb6aY+74s9k=z_flpskoroogyanwc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Backup
On 17/08/12 02:25 PM, Glenn English wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:40:41 -0500, Emil Payne wrote: I have a 1 TB external USB drive with 362 GB used. I'd like to do a full backup to DVDs and then an incremental (or something) backup every month or two, also to DVDs or CDs. I'd like the backups to be compressed in order to save space (i.e. - the number of DVDs/CDs used). Optical media storage is a PITA for big amounts of data (it's very slow and hard to manage when you intend to do rewrite operations). I really hate to be the old fogey here, but if you've got the $$, tape sure does a good job. Use Amanda for both incrementals and fulls, and to reduce PITA, get cron to run them overnight. Or over the weekend, if you want to backup a lot of data, but infrequently. Optical disks and hard disks don't last. I have audio tapes from the 1950s that are still good. Tape has its disadvantages, but longevity isn't one of them... For backup, though, I'd suggest springing a little more media and telling Amanda to write uncompressed tarballs -- for reliability and ease of recovery from a major disaster. You can recover from an Amanda backup tape with nothing more than plain old tar. A major PITA, but it's possible. While tape has uses, it's not all that reliable. Tape is subject to chemical deterioration, magnetic drop-outs, stretching, and a host of other problems. You won't notice the problems so much on audio tape with a lot of tape surface to hold the music (1/2 inch open reel audio tapes from the 1950s are more reliable than cassettes from the 1970s). However, on data tapes, the problems start showing up fairly quickly. It's main advantage over the years has been capacity. A automatic tape library can hold a lot of data over multiple tapes. However, tape changers are expensive, as are the media. You're correct about not compressing the data. Uncompressed tars are less prone to catastrophic failure from data dropouts. However, this is less of an issue with optical media. Still, I always do a cmp after backing up to optical media just to ensure the data actually copied correctly. If it didn't, I rsync and cmp again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502ec87d.1020...@rogers.com
Re: Wheezy and Sun-Java
On 08/14/2012 05:32 PM, Aidan Gauland wrote: Rob Owensrow...@ptd.net writes: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 08:29:41PM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: Unfortunately, my internet baking does not recognize openjdk. Only sun-java seems to work. When calling technical support, the attendant insist I should upgrade to the last sun-java plugin. There is simply no alternatives for me. Did you install the icedtea plugin? That is the browser plugin that works with openjdk. Just make sure that doesn't work before you go through the trouble of installing sun/oracle java from squeeze or from source. I can vouch for the icedtea plugin. I have to run Java applets for some of my classes, and this has never given me any trouble. (Also using wheezy.) I made the switch from sun-java to icedtea while still in Squeeze and had a bit of trouble with one of my web apps. But when I upgraded to Wheezy, the new icedtea seemed to clear everything up, and now I'm having no problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502ec8a4.8000...@gmail.com
Re: QSS button (Quick Security Setup)
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Dr Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Hi fellows, Thierry wrote: But, using a wired connection as in paragraph 3.1, 3.2, you should be able to use the QSS from the router thru your internet explorer as shown in 4.3 and later. Good luck!!! Thierry Thierry, I don't have windows in this machine, neither internet explorer (argh!), and the whole point of the button is to do a quick setup without the need to know admin password, or even the very wireless passphrase! So if I need to boot windows or use a wired cable, it is not looking so quick anymore. :) Darac, thanks, but I woudn't use brute force. I think reaver is more like a tool to help in an inhospitable situation. the point of reaver is to show you why wps is *bad* - disable it if you can. i mean, it's almost as bad as wep - it doesn't buy you much as far as security goes. if you don't like psk stuff, setup radius or similar. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAH_OBid6RtgrAVi-ZyvHKRxXmg=ofwtzkpoicop6+apvcqg...@mail.gmail.com
What does stty's iutf8 actually do (effect)?
The manual page for stty says that the input setting iutf8 controls whether to assume [that] input characters are UTF-8 encoded. What does setting actually do? (I understand UTF-8 and its mapping between byte sequences and characters. What I don't know is where character decoding and encoding are done in Linux input and output components (virtual consoles, xterm/etc., tty devices).) What does that iutf8 setting actually affect? Is the terminal (tty?) driver involved in decoding the input byte stream into characters for the process attached to the tty device? Or does the driver decode bytes into characters only for its own checking for special characters (e.g., for stty intf CHAR)? Thanks, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502ed815.9000...@kempt.net
Re: Backup
Gary Dale wrote: On 17/08/12 02:25 PM, Glenn English wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:40:41 -0500, Emil Payne wrote: I have a 1 TB external USB drive with 362 GB used. I'd like to do a full backup to DVDs and then an incremental (or something) backup every month or two, also to DVDs or CDs. I'd like the backups to be compressed in order to save space (i.e. - the number of DVDs/CDs used). Optical media storage is a PITA for big amounts of data (it's very slow and hard to manage when you intend to do rewrite operations). I really hate to be the old fogey here, but if you've got the $$, tape sure does a good job. Use Amanda for both incrementals and fulls, and to reduce PITA, get cron to run them overnight. Or over the weekend, if you want to backup a lot of data, but infrequently. Optical disks and hard disks don't last. I have audio tapes from the 1950s that are still good. Tape has its disadvantages, but longevity isn't one of them... For backup, though, I'd suggest springing a little more media and telling Amanda to write uncompressed tarballs -- for reliability and ease of recovery from a major disaster. You can recover from an Amanda backup tape with nothing more than plain old tar. A major PITA, but it's possible. While tape has uses, it's not all that reliable. Tape is subject to chemical deterioration, magnetic drop-outs, stretching, and a host of other problems. You won't notice the problems so much on audio tape with a lot of tape surface to hold the music (1/2 inch open reel audio tapes from the 1950s are more reliable than cassettes from the 1970s). However, on data tapes, the problems start showing up fairly quickly. It's main advantage over the years has been capacity. A automatic tape library can hold a lot of data over multiple tapes. However, tape changers are expensive, as are the media. You're correct about not compressing the data. Uncompressed tars are less prone to catastrophic failure from data dropouts. However, this is less of an issue with optical media. Still, I always do a cmp after backing up to optical media just to ensure the data actually copied correctly. If it didn't, I rsync and cmp again. If you were to forgo tape as an option, I could recommend luckybackup (it's in the current Squeeze repos). I stumbled across it after I found when upgrading to Fedora 17, mondoarchive no longer worked so that left me looking for something else to use for local backups (I use rsync for remote ones) on Fedora. It's basically a frontend for rsync that does incremental backups, snapshots, etc it really is more than adequate. I've checked the restore function that worked fine, so all in all it does the job that I ask of it very well. YMMV. Cheers, Phil... -- currently (ab)using CentOS 6.3, Debian Squeeze, Fedora Beefy, OS X Snow Leopard, Ubuntu Precise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502ee1ba.3070...@gmail.com
Re: PowerPC install stuck at dmesg
gave it another try this evening, and for no apparent reason, it booted up to a much furthur place, still not an install, but past memory allocations. It had a line that said cut here followed by a slew of messages, some of which began with 'kernel bug' and a memory dump. I attempted to take a picture, but the machine had already reset by the time I had found a camera. I am attempting to duplicate that result now. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Tek t...@castyour.net wrote: I had similar issues with hanging on boot about a month ago with powerpc and I believe that it ended up being a corrupted boot ram image. Would drop into a limited shell when it tried to switch to mounting the root file systems and visually hang. Sounds somewhat similar, but I cant tell from your description if its exactly the issue. In my case I wasn't able to switch to any other console, but I could type around int he initramfs shell still after the boot hang. The mdadm driver (not used for booting on my machine) was corrupting the initram regeneration. Removing and supressing the reinstalltion of the mdadm script part of initramfs regeneration allowed a clean initramfs to be built which booted fine. Might be one of these bugs or another similar http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=678262 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=675452 My system did not boot even though the root filesystem was not on an raid volume. This really may not be your issue, but the symptoms go in the same direction, so I though I would bring it up. Best, Ryan On Thu 16 Aug 2012 12:27:21 AM CEST, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Michael Aldridge wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: On Aug 15, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Michael Aldridge wrote: okay, I understand now; although, there is a slight problem with doing that, I have no other linux machines handy with disk drives. Is there a way of doing that from the mac terminal? If you just put the CD in the CD drive with MacOS-X running, it should mount it. In the terminal window type df it will show (among other things) a volume mounted on /Volumes/Debian... Type cat /Volumes/Debian*/.disk/info (without the quotes) Report what you see. Rick Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 Squeeze- Official powerpc NETINST Binary - 1 20120512-20:49 OK. That says you are using the official stable/Squeeze netinst iso, available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/6.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-powerpc-netinst.iso This is the current version that has (presumably) been used by lots of folks since it was released last May. So it's unlikely that the problem is in the ISO itself. Have you checked that the CD is bit-for-bit the same as the iso? I haven't personally tried this, but there is a help topic in the MacOS-X disk utility called Verifying files are copied correctly from a disk image that seems to tell you how to use checksums to tell if a CD was burned properly. Rick
Re: videos not playing ... sometimes
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:38:43 -0700, prad wrote: i'm using squeeze stable and gnome. sometimes youtube vids play just fine, but after a while they don't play at all through firefox, but will through epiphany. What do you mean by don't play? What's showed instead the video? it loads up, but nothing plays. it freezes and you just see a black window for movieplayer or mplayer. if i download a video, i can't always play it either on movieplayer or mplayer. however, put it on another machine and there's no problem (so the download is obviously fine). Are these videos also flashplayer based movies or different media files (mpeg, avi...)? Anyway, if you launch the video from command line probably you will get more information on why it fails to load. they are whatever i convert it to. none of them work. right now it's working again. i will take your suggestion and see what i can find from the command line when it stops. thx camaleon! -- in friendship, prad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87has0hhuh@psinom.home
