Re: [HS] Variables serveur Web php.ini
Bonjour, Le lundi 10 septembre 2012 à 20:47, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Les navigateurs gardent les infos déjà tapées dans les formulaires en cas d'erreur et de retour. exceptés Firefox et IE : pour moi, c'est un défaut. Les voitures récentes se verrouillent automatiquement lorsqu'on les déverrouille et qu'on n'ouvre pas une portière dans les quelques dizaines de secondes suivantes. C'est un plus, ça permet d'éviter de laisser sa voiture déverrouillée (quand on n'a pas la tête à ce qu'on fait). De là à dire que les voitures plus anciennes (qui n'ont pas ce comportement) ont un défaut… Ce qu'on demande à un navigateur, c'est d'interpréter, en se conformant aux standards, les pages HTML fournies par un serveur Web. Tout ce qui est en plus est … du plus ! Enfin, baser le développement de son site Web sur un tel comportement (qui, encore une fois, n'est qu'un plus) est le meilleur moyen de s'assurer des ennuis. Si tu veux être sûr du comportement de ton site, c'est coté serveur qu'il faut t'en assurer, et non pas supposer que le client fera une partie de ton boulot. Ceci oblige d'ajouter pas mal de lignes de codes PHP dans les fichiers des formulaire pour garder les infos déjà renseignées. Eh oui, de même que pour un rendu homogène FF / IE / Chromium / etc., il va te falloir ajouter beaucoup de lignes de CSS (éventuellement de JavaScript). Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911074208.gb8...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Re: serveur sftp
Colin, 2012-09-08 22:30+0200: Cependant, dés lors que je dois chrooter un utilisateur, c'est très pénible : est-il possible de faire en sorte que ce soit pas *uniquement* root qui ait les droits d'écriture sur le que l'on chroote à un utilisateur ? Pas que je sache, OpenSSH refuse la connexion si l'utilisateur a le droit d'écrire dans le répertoire de chroot, ou quelque chose de ce goût-là. Personnellement, dans ce genre de cas je chroote les gens dans leur répertoire perso, que je chown root:root, et dedans je mets un répertoire public_html que je chown user:user, et c'est dans ce répertoire qu'ils mettent leur site Web, si c'est d'un site Web qu'il s'agit. -- ,--. : /` ) Tanguy Ortolo xmpp:tan...@ortolo.eu | `-'Debian Developer irc://irc.oftc.net/Tanguy \_ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2mvf1$k5p$1...@ger.gmane.org
Connexion M2M SFR via wvdial et ppp
Bonjour, Je rencontre un problème avec un modem USB ercogener et une connexion m2m en gprs/3G : le lien ppp ne tient pas et le modem raccroche. Il me semble que l'ensemble des paramètres sont correctes. J'ai réussi (il y a deux ans) à faire fonctionner ce type de configuration mais aujourd'hui plus rien. À ce moment là il fallait recompiler le driver sierra. mais aujourd'hui je n'ai pas trouvé de sources adapté au noyau 3.2 d'une wheezy. J'ai essayé avec une clé SFR USB vodafone (Huawei) mais même constat... qqu'1 a-t-il résolu de pareils pb ? uname Linux trafic 3.2.0-3-486 #1 Mon Jul 23 02:47:49 UTC 2012 i586 GNU/Linux lsusb Bus 001 Device 011: ID 1199:683c Sierra Wireless, Inc. Trace wvdial -- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.61 -- Cannot get information for serial port. -- Initializing modem. -- Sending: ATZ ATZ OK -- Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 OK -- Sending: at+CPIN? at+CPIN? +CPIN: READY OK -- Sending: at+creg? at+creg? +CREG: 0,1 OK -- Sending: at+csq at+csq +CSQ: 19,99 OK -- Sending: AT+CGDCONT=1,IP,m2mpremium AT+CGDCONT=1,IP,m2mpremium OK -- Modem initialized. -- Sending: ATDT*99# -- Waiting for carrier. ATDT*99# CONNECT 115200 -- Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. -- Starting pppd at Tue Sep 11 13:56:11 2012 -- Pid of pppd: 19956 -- Using interface ppp0 -- pppd: A0E58A @܊ -- pppd: A0E58A @܊ -- pppd: A0E58A @܊ -- pppd: A0E58A @܊ -- pppd: A0E58A @܊ -- pppd: A0E58A @܊ -- Disconnecting at Tue Sep 11 13:56:12 2012 -- The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16) -- man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. -- Try again and look into /var/log/messages and the wvdial and pppd man pages for more information. -- Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 5 seconds -- Cannot get information for serial port. Trace /var/log/messages Sep 11 13:56:18 trafic pppd[19965]: pppd 2.4.5 started by root, uid 0 Sep 11 13:56:18 trafic pppd[19965]: Using interface ppp0 Sep 11 13:56:18 trafic pppd[19965]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyUSB3 Sep 11 13:56:18 trafic pppd[19965]: CHAP authentication succeeded Sep 11 13:56:18 trafic pppd[19965]: CHAP authentication succeeded Sep 11 13:56:18 trafic pppd[19965]: Terminating on signal 15 Sep 11 13:56:18 trafic pppd[19965]: Connection terminated. Sep 11 13:56:18 trafic pppd[19965]: Exit. Sep 11 14:28:41 trafic kernel: [20576.288100] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 17 using ehci_hcd Sep 11 14:28:42 trafic kernel: [20576.422743] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=12d1, idProduct=14b7 Sep 11 14:28:42 trafic kernel: [20576.422768] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Sep 11 14:28:42 trafic kernel: [20576.422789] usb 1-3: Product: Vodafone Mobile Broadband (Huawei) Sep 11 14:28:42 trafic kernel: [20576.422826] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Vodafone Group (Huawei) Sep 11 14:28:42 trafic kernel: [20576.433204] scsi8 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0 Sep 11 14:28:42 trafic usb_modeswitch: switching device 12d1:14b7 on 001/017 Sep 11 14:28:42 trafic kernel: [20577.068473] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 17 Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20580.948095] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 18 using ehci_hcd Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20581.083102] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=12d1, idProduct=14cc Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20581.083127] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=4, Product=3, SerialNumber=0 Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20581.083149] usb 1-3: Product: Vodafone Mobile Broadband (Huawei) Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20581.083185] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Vodafone Group (Huawei) Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20581.103557] option 1-3:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20581.104897] usb 1-3: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20581.124137] option 1-3:1.4: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20581.124631] usb 1-3: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1 Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic kernel: [20581.140124] scsi9 : usb-storage 1-3:1.5 Sep 11 14:28:46 trafic logger: usb_modeswitch: switched to 12d1:14cc on 001/018 Sep 11 14:28:47 trafic kernel: [20582.141894] scsi 9:0:0:0: Direct-Access Vodafone Storage (Huawei) 2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 Sep 11 14:28:47 trafic kernel: [20582.151207] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 Sep 11 14:28:47 trafic kernel: [20582.151693] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/10d665e606f864b8ef6741d72aef3...@webmail.ianco.homelinux.org
Re: [HS] Variables serveur Web php.ini
Le lundi 10 septembre 2012 à 20:47, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Les navigateurs gardent les infos déjà tapées dans les formulaires en cas d'erreur et de retour. exceptés Firefox et IE : pour moi, c'est un défaut. On Tuesday 11 September 2012 09:42:08 Sébastien NOBILI wrote: Les voitures récentes se verrouillent automatiquement lorsqu'on les déverrouille et qu'on n'ouvre pas une portière dans les quelques dizaines de secondes suivantes. C'est un plus, ça permet d'éviter de laisser sa voiture déverrouillée (quand on n'a pas la tête à ce qu'on fait). De là à dire que les voitures plus anciennes (qui n'ont pas ce comportement) ont un défaut… Je ne désire pas créer un débat ou une polémique sur ce sujet, mais je ne vois pas le rapport entre l'exemple du verrouillage d'une voiture et d'une commodité très simple d'un navigateur, à savoir, de retenir des données déjà entrées d'un formulaire. Puisque Konqueror, Chrome, Opéra ... savent le faire, pourquoi pas les autres ? Ce qu'on demande à un navigateur, c'est d'interpréter, en se conformant aux standards, les pages HTML fournies par un serveur Web. Tout ce qui est en plus est … du plus ! Enfin, baser le développement de son site Web sur un tel comportement (qui, encore une fois, n'est qu'un plus) est le meilleur moyen de s'assurer des ennuis. Si tu veux être sûr du comportement de ton site, c'est coté serveur qu'il faut t'en assurer, et non pas supposer que le client fera une partie de ton boulot. Ceci oblige d'ajouter pas mal de lignes de codes PHP dans les fichiers des formulaires pour garder les infos déjà renseignées. Eh oui, de même que pour un rendu homogène FF / IE / Chromium / etc., il va te falloir ajouter beaucoup de lignes de CSS (éventuellement de JavaScript). Seb mais tout le monde n'a pas le temps de faire des dizaines de lignes de code avec tous les essais ensuite pour FireFox, alors que cette option de non effacement des données existe ailleurs. Bonne soirée. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209111826.57306.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Maj du noyau sur debian squeeze
Bonjour, J'utilise approx au boulot pour faire les maj de mes debian. Or je constate que je n'ai reçu aucune mise à jour pour le noyau depuis des lustres. Est-ce normal ? Merci de vos avis éclairés. Patrick -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2np2o$6g5$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Maj du noyau sur debian squeeze
Le 11/09/2012 18:31, pmenier a écrit : Bonjour, J'utilise approx au boulot pour faire les maj de mes debian. Or je constate que je n'ai reçu aucune mise à jour pour le noyau depuis des lustres. Est-ce normal ? Merci de vos avis éclairés. Patrick Salut, peut-être bien... Tu n'as qu'as vérifier... http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-imagesearchon=namessuite=stablesection=all ++ KP -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f7627.10...@gmail.com
Re: reconnaissance vocale
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Bzzz wrote: O_o aparlé trop vite, ceci semble le faire: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-install-and-run-android-4.0-on-mac-windows-pc-or-linux-tutorial/ D'ailleurs c'est une excellente idée à plusieurs titres, facilité d'utilisation mais surtout analyse fine du trafic, histoire de voir quels sont les pgms qui pompent les données persos (une bonne idée de site utile ça). ça aurait pu être intéressant. J'ai donc fait l'essai. Pour l'install de la machine virtuelle Android sous Virtualbox, pas de pb, mais après: Quand j'essaie d'installer une appli sur Google Play, j''ai 3 cas de figure 1/ il me dit qu'elle est déjà installée sur mon gs2 2/ il accepte de l'installer... mais sur mon gs2! 3/ l'install ne donne rien Soit je n'ai rien compris, soit l'intérêt est assez limité. Cordialement, -- Pierre Frenkiel
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SOLUCIONADO Re: OT numero de ficheros en squid3 en debian estable
El vie, 07-09-2012 a las 13:48 +, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:23:04 +0200, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio escribió: El jue, 06-09-2012 a las 13:59 +, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:52:39 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) ¿Alguien sabe porque sale 65535 y no 4096 como yo esperaba? ¿Has reiniciado el servicio? Y revísate también este comentario: http://paulgoscicki.com/archives/2007/01/squid-warning-your-cache-is-running-out-of-filedescriptors/comment-page-1/#comment-52573 Ese en concreto no, pero otros análogos si, por eso hice los cambios, lo que a mi me extraña es que si pongo 4096 (que es lo que ponen en todos los ejemplos que he visto en internet, por lo que imagino que es un valor aceptable) en lugar de 4096 sale 65535 cuando en el SO el limite es 4096 ( ulimit -n da 4096). Según ese comentario, tienes que modificar el valor de max_filedescriptors en el archivo /etc/squid3/squid.conf porque lo otro no funciona. Creo (y me da miedo) que es algún tipo de desbordamiento, de hay la cifra 65535, lo que puede ser fatal, pues ¿que pasara cuando el squid quiera manejar mas ficheros de los que el SO pueda? A ver... el script de inicio de squid3 establece el valor de ulimit a 65535, lo cual no tiene mucho sentido porque entonces ¿de qué sirve definirlo manualmente a través de las variables max_filedescriptors o SQUID_MAXFD? No sé, algo no me cuadra... revisa la documentación del paquete de squid3 a ver si comentan algo de esto :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón Tenias razón, no ley bien el articulo y no puse el max_filedescriptors si no el otro que no funciona. Muchas gracias a todos. -- trujo antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347360775.5994.5.ca...@trujo.hvn.sas.junta-andalucia.es
Usuario para RAS
Buenos días a todos, he instalado un servicio RAS por la guia de Debian Lenny ahora mi duda es la siguiete, ya declare un usuario en un fichero de configuración, Aqui la duda El usuario que tengo en ese fichero debe ser el mismo o es el mismo que agrego con adduser nombreusuario??? Aver si me sacan de la duda Agradezco a todos la ayuda, pues estoy migrando el RAS de Windows -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/fec73e8f3340fdce173ab034a9545...@ida.cu
Re: Usuario para RAS
El Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:29:10 -0400, luis escribió: Buenos días a todos, he instalado un servicio RAS por la guia de Debian Lenny ahora mi duda es la siguiete, ya declare un usuario en un fichero de configuración, Ah, qué bueno... recuerdo que te envié un enlace ¿has seguido esa guía? Lo comento para poder leer los pasos que has seguido y ver a qué archivo de configuración te refieres. Aqui la duda El usuario que tengo en ese fichero debe ser el mismo o es el mismo que agrego con adduser nombreusuario??? Bueno, suponiendo que te refieras al archivo /etc/ppp/pap-secrets, debe contener los usuarios del sistema (o virtuales) a los que permites conectarse pero no sé a qué te refieres cuando dices debe ser el mismo :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2ng4v$3ru$1...@ger.gmane.org
del RAS como saber num de modem y su ttyS0
Como saber que es esto lo que tengo que escribir en la linea que edito en el inittab S0:234:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -n2 -s 57600 -D /dev/ttyS0 como yo se si el modem mio usb es ttyS0 y si s0:234 es lo que le toca eso lo saqué de la pág http://gutl.jovenclub.cu/wiki/tutoriales/ras_debian_lenny No se como ver los valores que recibe mi modem usb A vver si me dan una ayudita -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0c3af93d3e786a62ce89085660142...@ida.cu
Re: Usuario para RAS
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:59:59 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote: El Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:29:10 -0400, luis escribió: Buenos días a todos, he instalado un servicio RAS por la guia de Debian Lenny ahora mi duda es la siguiete, ya declare un usuario en un fichero de configuración, Ah, qué bueno... recuerdo que te envié un enlace ¿has seguido esa guía? Lo comento para poder leer los pasos que has seguido y ver a qué archivo de configuración te refieres. Aqui la duda El usuario que tengo en ese fichero debe ser el mismo o es el mismo que agrego con adduser nombreusuario??? Bueno, suponiendo que te refieras al archivo /etc/ppp/pap-secrets, debe contener los usuarios del sistema (o virtuales) a los que permites conectarse pero no sé a qué te refieres cuando dices debe ser el mismo :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón Hola Camaleon me refiero al fichero inittab que esta en /etc/inittab y al final le colocamos S0:234:respawn:/sbin/mgetty /dev/ttyS0 que no se si esta bien asi yo copie y pegue de la pag, no se si esta bien asi Lo otro llamo al numero donde esta el modem y no me responde ? que hay que hacer hay que reiniciar algun servicio de hecho ya he reiniciado la pc y nada a verque crees que sea -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/c8e864f714fe4595d846a31c3df35...@ida.cu
Re: Usuario para RAS
El Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:21:39 -0400, luis escribió: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:59:59 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote: (...) El usuario que tengo en ese fichero debe ser el mismo o es el mismo que agrego con adduser nombreusuario??? Bueno, suponiendo que te refieras al archivo /etc/ppp/pap-secrets, debe contener los usuarios del sistema (o virtuales) a los que permites conectarse pero no sé a qué te refieres cuando dices debe ser el mismo :-? Hola Camaleon me refiero al fichero inittab que esta en /etc/inittab y al final le colocamos S0:234:respawn:/sbin/mgetty /dev/ttyS0 que no se si esta bien asi yo copie y pegue de la pag, no se si esta bien asi (...) No hay usuarios en el archivo inittab :-) Lo único que tendrás que ajustar en ese archivo es la ruta al dispositivo del modem que tal y como lo tienes puesto apunta a /dev/ttyS0 y eso es para un módem externo conectado al puerto serie. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2nl0f$3ru$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: del RAS como saber num de modem y su ttyS0
El Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:01:23 -0400, luis escribió: Como saber que es esto lo que tengo que escribir en la linea que edito en el inittab (...) Esto es lo que comentaba antes, en el correo anterior. Ejecuta dmesg | grep -i tty para ver dónde te detecta el módem. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2nls0$3ru$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Usuario para RAS
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:22:55 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote: El Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:21:39 -0400, luis escribió: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:59:59 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote: (...) El usuario que tengo en ese fichero debe ser el mismo o es el mismo que agrego con adduser nombreusuario??? Bueno, suponiendo que te refieras al archivo /etc/ppp/pap-secrets, debe contener los usuarios del sistema (o virtuales) a los que permites conectarse pero no sé a qué te refieres cuando dices debe ser el mismo :-? Hola Camaleon me refiero al fichero inittab que esta en /etc/inittab y al final le colocamos S0:234:respawn:/sbin/mgetty /dev/ttyS0 que no se si esta bien asi yo copie y pegue de la pag, no se si esta bien asi (...) No hay usuarios en el archivo inittab :-) Lo único que tendrás que ajustar en ese archivo es la ruta al dispositivo del modem que tal y como lo tienes puesto apunta a /dev/ttyS0 y eso es para un módem externo conectado al puerto serie. Saludos, -- Camaleón Perfecto si para los modem serie es /dev/ttyS0 como seria en mi caso que elmodem es USB ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d24968a37bb91fc0c23bffa167354...@ida.cu
Re: Usuario para RAS
El Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:01:00 -0400, luis escribió: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:22:55 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote: (...) Lo único que tendrás que ajustar en ese archivo es la ruta al dispositivo del modem que tal y como lo tienes puesto apunta a /dev/ttyS0 y eso es para un módem externo conectado al puerto serie. Perfecto si para los modem serie es /dev/ttyS0 como seria en mi caso que elmodem es USB ? Te lo comento en el otro correo (parece que estemos jugando al gato y al ratón), ejecuta dmesg | grep -i tty. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2nrgi$3ru$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Usuario para RAS
El 11/09/12 14:01, l...@ida.cu escribió: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:22:55 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote: El Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:21:39 -0400, luis escribió: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:59:59 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote: (...) El usuario que tengo en ese fichero debe ser el mismo o es el mismo que agrego con adduser nombreusuario??? Bueno, suponiendo que te refieras al archivo /etc/ppp/pap-secrets, debe contener los usuarios del sistema (o virtuales) a los que permites conectarse pero no sé a qué te refieres cuando dices debe ser el mismo :-? Hola Camaleon me refiero al fichero inittab que esta en /etc/inittab y al final le colocamos S0:234:respawn:/sbin/mgetty /dev/ttyS0 que no se si esta bien asi yo copie y pegue de la pag, no se si esta bien asi (...) No hay usuarios en el archivo inittab :-) Lo único que tendrás que ajustar en ese archivo es la ruta al dispositivo del modem que tal y como lo tienes puesto apunta a /dev/ttyS0 y eso es para un módem externo conectado al puerto serie. Saludos, -- Camaleón Perfecto si para los modem serie es /dev/ttyS0 como seria en mi caso que elmodem es USB ? Hace poco instalé el modem usb que estoy usando. Ejecutá en consola el comando lsusb Debería aparecer el modem en la listita que te devuelve. Ahí te fijás el Nº de bus que está usando, el primer número del renglón. El dispositivo será entonces /dev/ttyUSBx, donde x es el número de bus sin los ceros de la izquierda. Contanos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f716d.3050...@gmail.com
Re: ¿Linux, para diseño web y diseño grafico?
El 07/09/12 18:23, Altair Linux escribió: Buenas, vaya por delante que no pongo en duda, sino que pregunto. No conozco este tema. Hola Altair, Lo siento si llego tarde al hilo y si repito algunas de las cosas que se han dicho ya sobre el asunto, pero creo que, por una vez y sin que sirva de precedente, puedo aportar algo al tema. :D Verás, yo me dedico desde hace ya más de 15 años al diseño web, años antes ya me dedicaba al diseño gráfico y un buen día decidí migrar por completo a GNU/Linux. Así que la cuestión es que llevo unos 13 años diseñando webs sólo desde GNU/Linux (sin usar Windows, ni teniendo dual bot, ni nada de eso, es decir, usando sólo GNU/Linux). Siempre he oido que en temas de diseño para webs y graficos, lo mejor son los mac y que los mejores programas son los de adobe. Dreamweaver, flash, fireworks, etc. Sobre esto yo siempre he tenido una opinión que pocas veces la gente comparte. :D Yo soy de los que piensan que el hábito no hace al monje, y que lo realmente importante a la hora de diseñar o hacer webs o cualquier otra cosa es lo que uno sabe hacer y cómo lo hace. Hay gente que hace auténticas virguerías con vim o emacs y muchíiisimos fantasmas que usan dreamweaver sobre mac y no tienen ni idea de lo que hacen. En mi experiencia, he encontrado mcha gente que usa dreamweaver para hacer webs y que no usa ni un 1% de las capacidades de ese programa. Esta misma gente es capaz de quejarse de otros programas de edición web porque les resultan insuficientes, cuando tampoco serían capaces de usar ni el 1% del potencial de esos programas que critican. En mi opinión, la mayoría de la gente con la que hables del tema estará en este grupo. No digo que Dreamweaver sea un mal producto, que no lo es, sino que no es necesario para diseñar ni desarrollar webs en absoluto. También hay una vertiente puramente de marketing en todo esto. Nos guste o no, para la gente que no conoce bien los entresijos de cualquier profesión compleja (como muchas relacionadas con la informática u otras), les resulta sencillo asociar ciertas marcas o programas a ciertas tareas. De modo que si eres diseñador gráfico, la gente dará por supuesto que dominas Photoshop. Si eres animador 3D, muchos supondrán que dominas Maya o 3DS, si eres diseñador web, muchos te asociarán con Dreamweaver... y tristemente si eres diseñador de lo que sea, molarás más si usas mac... si llevas gafas de pasta, zapatillas Converse y subes fotos a Instagram cada 10 minutos... eres ya un dios! jajajaja También conozco a muchos diseñadores gráficos que dominan Photoshop y trabajan con un monitor sin calibrar, pero echan pestes de Gimp porque no es profesional. Yo ya es que ni me molesto en rebatirles... ;) Disculpadme si insisto en este tema demasiado, pero es un tema que me toca sufrir continuamente y con el que me siento tristemente identificado. Yo valoro la profesionalidad de alguien por su trabajo, no por las herramientas que usa... pero lamentablemente la mayoría de la gente no. Otro de los puntos calientes que he leído en algunas respuestas y que suelen reflejar opiniones comunes es el de la gente que te dirá que para hacer webs tienes que hacerlas ASÍ y punto. Mucho cuidado con ese tipo de comentarios porque a veces son erróneos por pura ignorancia y otras veces son erróneos sin maldad, pero porque cada cual tiene su modus operandi para perpetrar sus webs. No trabaja igual un diseñador gráfico, un desarrollador front-end, un desarrollador back-end, alguien que se especializa en CMS's, otro que se especializa en arquitectura de contenidos... El desarrollo de una web completa involucra muchas partes, todas importantes y especializadas; como es imposible ser un especialista en todo, lo normal es que uno sepa de todo y se especialice en varios campos (o en uno) y eso, quieras que no, condiciona la forma de trabajar. Por hablarte de mi caso concreto, yo me especialicé en diseño web, maquetación, accesibilidad y estándares; trabajo, además, con varios CMS. Aunque tengo conocimientos de programación, no suelo dedicarme al desarrollo, porque reconozco que nunca llegaría a ser tan bueno en ese campo como lo soy en los otros y, por supuesto, nunca llegaría a ser tan bueno como los colegas que llevan los mismos años que yo trabajando, pero dedicados al desarrollo web. Cuando hay que hacer algo muy muy específico, siempre recurro a compañeros especializados en desarrollo web, que son los que son capaces de personalizar un CMS o convertir unas plantillas HTML estáticas en una web totalmente dinámica y funcional, agregándoles la programación debida. Una cosa que aprendí hace tiempo es que cuando uno se especializa mucho en algo, tratar de hacer tareas que están muy lejos de tu especialización implica mucho esfuerzo, trabajo, problemas y aprendizaje esfuerzo, trabajo, problemas y aprendizaje que gente dedicada a esa otra especialidad ya han superado, y
Re: OT: Pidgin no conecta con Jabber a traves de Arnet (Argentina)
Camaleón escribió: El Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:30:32 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: ¡MIREN CON LO QUE ME ACABO DE TOPAR! Gracias a la caché de Google, pude acceder a una versión snapshot del sitio antes de que se afectara. Quise comprobar la falla que menciona la persona de arriba, registrándome en http://register.jabber.org (luego, bajarme el Pidgin, y luego probar conectarme); pero me topé con esto (esto para l@s que no tengan una conexión tan veloz): August 22, 2012: Recently, the jabber.org IM service has been subject to massive denial of service attacks related to abusive use of jabber.org accounts by customers of KBot, a program for cheating at the DarkOrbit game. Therefore, we have temporarily disabled new account registration at jabber.org to avoid further attacks. We will enable new account registration again once we have dealt with the underlying problem, and will announce further changes through our usual methods. Until then, you can create an account at any other public XMPP service. We apologize for any inconvenience. ¿Será eso lo que impide conectarse? Espero sus opiniones... Bueno, esa nota indica que han desactivado los nuevos registros pero nada más. En cualquier caso, tampoco le funcionaría la conexión a servidores Jabber desde otros equipos. Saludos, Bueno, retomo el hilo ya que hice bastante ruido con esto para cerrarlo. Resulta que desde el sábado se conecta bien PIdgin con Jabber desde mi estudio. ¿Qué pasó? No sé y creo que jamás lo sabremos. Otro misterio sin resolver en esta dimensión desconocida. Gracias a todos y todas quienes aportaron. Saludos cordiales. -- Sergio Bessopeanetto Buenos Aires, Argentina Skype: sergio.bess msn: sergieb...@hotmail.com Jabber: sergio.b...@jabber.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f8b50.3020...@myopera.com
Monitoreando Metro-Ethernet
Gente, alguien conoce algun paquete que se pueda hacer un discovey y un monitoreo de Anillos Metro Ethernet para Debian? gracias y saludos, walter
Re: Νέα θέση εργασίας στο Εθνικό Δίκτυο Έρευνας και Τεχνολογίας
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:30:39PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Καλά έκανε και προσβλήθηκε ο Γιώργος, γιατί ο τρόπος του troll ήταν εντελώς άστοχος, αγενέστατος, δείχνει αμάθεια και δεν είχε κανένα έρισμα στην αρχική αγγελία δουλειάς. Ο kargig του απάντησε πολύ σωστά, χωρίς να ρίξει το επίπεδο και ακριβώς όπως του άξιζε. Esy les oti den ton endiefere i apantisi kai apla to rotise gia na kanei kapoiou eidous obscure plaka, kai se pistevo, alla even so... synexizo na min vlepo ti to toso kako kai agenestato eixe i erotisi. Den exei idieteri simasia, oute me endiaferei na to syzitisoume se bathos. Apla dilono tin antithesi mou se tetoiou eidous eythiksia. Let's chill the fuck out. -- John Tsiombikas http://nuclear.mutantstargoat.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-greek-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911104735.ga3...@mutantstargoat.com
Re: Νέα θέση εργασίας στο Εθνικό Δίκτυο Έρευνας και Τεχνολογίας
2012/9/11 John Tsiombikas nucl...@member.fsf.org: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:30:39PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Καλά έκανε και προσβλήθηκε ο Γιώργος, γιατί ο τρόπος του troll ήταν εντελώς άστοχος, αγενέστατος, δείχνει αμάθεια και δεν είχε κανένα έρισμα στην αρχική αγγελία δουλειάς. Ο kargig του απάντησε πολύ σωστά, χωρίς να ρίξει το επίπεδο και ακριβώς όπως του άξιζε. Esy les oti den ton endiefere i apantisi kai apla to rotise gia na kanei kapoiou eidous obscure plaka, kai se pistevo, alla even so... synexizo na min vlepo ti to toso kako kai agenestato eixe i erotisi. Den exei idieteri simasia, oute me endiaferei na to syzitisoume se bathos. Apla dilono tin antithesi mou se tetoiou eidous eythiksia. Let's chill the fuck out. προφανώς δεν υπάρχει κάποιο ISO πρότυπο για το τι είναι αγενές και τι όχι, αλλά ούτε και για το πόσο εύθικτος μπορεί να είναι κάποιος. Εγώ και άλλοι θα θεωρούσαμε εκ των προτέρων απρεπές το ύφος της επίμαχης απάντησης, ενώ άλλοι μπορεί να θεωρούν εκ των προτέρων μυγιάγγιχτο τον kargig που δεν δέχτηκε μια απάντηση με αυτό το ύφος. Αλλά ενώ μπορεί να είναι αναπόφευκτο κάθε τόσο αυτές οι διαφορετικές αντιλήψεις να οδηγούν σε μικρο-παρεξηγήσεις δεν είναι αναπόφευκτο αυτές να οδηγούν σε μεγαλύτερες. Αφού ο kargig εξέφρασε την ενόχληση του το θέμα έπρεπε να λήξει εκεί, δηλαδή απλά μια μικρή παρεξήγηση περί αποδεκτού ύφους. Όμως η προσβλητική ανταπάντηση που ακολούθησε δείχνει ότι το πρόβλημα δεν είναι απλά και μόνο διαφορετικές αντιλήψεις περί ύφους.
Re: Νέα θέση εργασίας στο Εθνικό Δίκτυο Έρευνας και Τεχνολογίας
Etsi apo periergia, de to vrike kaneis asteio to sxolio? Ego prosopika gelasa kai to ekselava os geniko xavale. Oxi pos exei idieteri simasia dld apla kouventa na ginete. On Sep 11, 2012 3:01 PM, Kostantinos Koukopoulos koukopou...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/9/11 John Tsiombikas nucl...@member.fsf.org: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:30:39PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Καλά έκανε και προσβλήθηκε ο Γιώργος, γιατί ο τρόπος του troll ήταν εντελώς άστοχος, αγενέστατος, δείχνει αμάθεια και δεν είχε κανένα έρισμα στην αρχική αγγελία δουλειάς. Ο kargig του απάντησε πολύ σωστά, χωρίς να ρίξει το επίπεδο και ακριβώς όπως του άξιζε. Esy les oti den ton endiefere i apantisi kai apla to rotise gia na kanei kapoiou eidous obscure plaka, kai se pistevo, alla even so... synexizo na min vlepo ti to toso kako kai agenestato eixe i erotisi. Den exei idieteri simasia, oute me endiaferei na to syzitisoume se bathos. Apla dilono tin antithesi mou se tetoiou eidous eythiksia. Let's chill the fuck out. προφανώς δεν υπάρχει κάποιο ISO πρότυπο για το τι είναι αγενές και τι όχι, αλλά ούτε και για το πόσο εύθικτος μπορεί να είναι κάποιος. Εγώ και άλλοι θα θεωρούσαμε εκ των προτέρων απρεπές το ύφος της επίμαχης απάντησης, ενώ άλλοι μπορεί να θεωρούν εκ των προτέρων μυγιάγγιχτο τον kargig που δεν δέχτηκε μια απάντηση με αυτό το ύφος. Αλλά ενώ μπορεί να είναι αναπόφευκτο κάθε τόσο αυτές οι διαφορετικές αντιλήψεις να οδηγούν σε μικρο-παρεξηγήσεις δεν είναι αναπόφευκτο αυτές να οδηγούν σε μεγαλύτερες. Αφού ο kargig εξέφρασε την ενόχληση του το θέμα έπρεπε να λήξει εκεί, δηλαδή απλά μια μικρή παρεξήγηση περί αποδεκτού ύφους. Όμως η προσβλητική ανταπάντηση που ακολούθησε δείχνει ότι το πρόβλημα δεν είναι απλά και μόνο διαφορετικές αντιλήψεις περί ύφους. -- linux-greek-users mailing list -- http://lists.hellug.gr
Re: Νέα θέση εργασίας στο Εθνικό Δίκτυο Έρευνας και Τεχνολογίας
On 11/09/12 22:32, Tasos Laskos wrote: Etsi apo periergia, de to vrike kaneis asteio to sxolio? Ego prosopika gelasa kai to ekselava os geniko xavale. Προσωπικά δεν μου άρεσε καθόλου το ύφος της απάντησης αλλά σε κάποιο βαθμό το βρήκα κι εγώ αστείο. Είναι απαράδεκτο όμως να έχεις τέτοιου είδους απαντήσει σε μία ανακοίνωση που έκανες για καλό σκοπό. Το λιγότερο θα μπορούσε να έχει ουδέτερο ύφος και το περισσότερο να πει ένα 'Ευχαριστώ!'. Οτιδήποτε άλλο είναι απλά περιττό και στην προκειμένη περίπτωση απαράδεκτο και προκλητικό. ΤΟΥΣ ΜΑΓΚΕΣ ΤΟΥΣ ΠΑΤΗΣΕ ΤΟ ΤΡΕΝΟ! Μέμος -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-greek-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50500fb6.1090...@dragonsparadise.net
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3 monitores
Caros, tenho um laptop hp ProBook 4320s com Debian stable ele tem uma saída VGA e uma saída HDMI. Tenho um monitor Goldstar ligado na VGA e um AOC ligado na HDMI, através de um cabo HDMI - DVI-D. eu consigo todas as combinações de 2 monitores possíveis: monitor do laptop + Goldstar mointor do laptop + AOC Goldstar + AOC tudo configurando pelo gnome-display-properties. Rápido e simples. E com tela extendida (não é clonada). Mas quando eu tento ligar as três telas juntas, no gnome-display-properties, aparece a mensagem: A configuração escolhida para o(s) vídeo(s) não pôde ser aplicada não foi possível encontrar configuração de tela adequadas acompanhei o /var/log/Xorg.0.log quando eu abro o gnome-display-properties (com o monitor do laptop e o goldstar ativos), escreve isto no arquivo: === (II) intel(0): EDID vendor GSM, prod id 19345 (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline 1360x768x0.0 85.50 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync (47.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1280x768x0.0 79.50 1280 1344 1472 1664 768 771 778 798 -hsync +vsync (47.8 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 720x400x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 832x624x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) === quando eu desativo o goldstar, deixando apenas o monitor do laptop, aparece isto: === (II) intel(0): EDID vendor GSM, prod id 19345 (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline 1360x768x0.0 85.50 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync (47.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1280x768x0.0 79.50 1280 1344 1472 1664 768 771 778 798 -hsync +vsync (47.8 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 720x400x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 832x624x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor GSM, prod id 19345 (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline 1360x768x0.0 85.50 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync (47.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1280x768x0.0 79.50 1280 1344 1472 1664 768 771 778 798 -hsync +vsync (47.8 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 720x400x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 832x624x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Allocated new frame buffer 1408x768 stride 5632, tiled === quando eu reativo o goldstar, aparece isto: === (II) intel(0): EDID vendor
Re: 3 monitores
o módulo i915 está carregado: $ lsmod | grep 915 i915 223022 2 drm_kms_helper 18569 1 i915 drm 112053 3 i915,drm_kms_helper i2c_algo_bit3493 1 i915 video 14605 1 i915 i2c_core 12787 5 i915,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,videodev button 3598 1 i915 mas como faço para ter certeza que o módulo da minha placa é o i915? Em 11/09/12, Fred Maranhãofred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu: Caros, tenho um laptop hp ProBook 4320s com Debian stable ele tem uma saída VGA e uma saída HDMI. Tenho um monitor Goldstar ligado na VGA e um AOC ligado na HDMI, através de um cabo HDMI - DVI-D. eu consigo todas as combinações de 2 monitores possíveis: monitor do laptop + Goldstar mointor do laptop + AOC Goldstar + AOC tudo configurando pelo gnome-display-properties. Rápido e simples. E com tela extendida (não é clonada). Mas quando eu tento ligar as três telas juntas, no gnome-display-properties, aparece a mensagem: A configuração escolhida para o(s) vídeo(s) não pôde ser aplicada não foi possível encontrar configuração de tela adequadas acompanhei o /var/log/Xorg.0.log quando eu abro o gnome-display-properties (com o monitor do laptop e o goldstar ativos), escreve isto no arquivo: === (II) intel(0): EDID vendor GSM, prod id 19345 (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline 1360x768x0.0 85.50 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync (47.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1280x768x0.0 79.50 1280 1344 1472 1664 768 771 778 798 -hsync +vsync (47.8 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 720x400x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 832x624x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) === quando eu desativo o goldstar, deixando apenas o monitor do laptop, aparece isto: === (II) intel(0): EDID vendor GSM, prod id 19345 (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline 1360x768x0.0 85.50 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync (47.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1280x768x0.0 79.50 1280 1344 1472 1664 768 771 778 798 -hsync +vsync (47.8 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 720x400x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 832x624x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor GSM, prod id 19345 (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline 1360x768x0.0 85.50 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync (47.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1280x768x0.0 79.50 1280 1344 1472 1664 768 771 778 798 -hsync +vsync (47.8 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 720x400x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769
Re: 3 monitores
Em 11-09-2012 15:13, Fred Maranhão escreveu: Caros, tenho um laptop hp ProBook 4320s com Debian stable ele tem uma saída VGA e uma saída HDMI. Tenho um monitor Goldstar ligado na VGA e um AOC ligado na HDMI, através de um cabo HDMI - DVI-D. eu consigo todas as combinações de 2 monitores possíveis: monitor do laptop + Goldstar mointor do laptop + AOC Goldstar + AOC tudo configurando pelo gnome-display-properties. Rápido e simples. E com tela extendida (não é clonada). Mas quando eu tento ligar as três telas juntas, no gnome-display-properties, aparece a mensagem: A configuração escolhida para o(s) vídeo(s) não pôde ser aplicada não foi possível encontrar configuração de tela adequadas [...] Olá! Creio que o mais provável seja que você tenha 2 GPUs e cada uma pode interfacear com uma conexão, daí não é possível usar as 3 conexões ao mesmo tempo, tente procurar por algo assim... Já testou o driver para Windows ou consultou manual sobre usar as 3 conexões simultaneamente para desencargo de consciência? -- []'s Junior Polegato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f8904.2020...@juniorpolegato.com.br
Re: 3 monitores
Em 11/09/12, Linux - Junior Polegatoli...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu: Em 11-09-2012 15:13, Fred Maranhão escreveu: ... Olá! Creio que o mais provável seja que você tenha 2 GPUs e cada uma pode interfacear com uma conexão, daí não é possível usar as 3 conexões ao mesmo tempo, tente procurar por algo assim... como eu vejo as configurações de GPU na minha máquina? Já testou o driver para Windows ou consultou manual sobre usar as 3 conexões simultaneamente para desencargo de consciência? Não tenho nem windows nem manual do hardware. e acho difícil que no manual vá falar isto. -- []'s Junior Polegato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capr829kunme9vequ1h2vpegtf7bp35+e2wonbkqe+gd5atp...@mail.gmail.com
[off-topic] Vagas de Programador FGV - PJ - Repassar por favor
FYI -- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: Geisomar Pinto geiso...@gmail.com Data: 11 de setembro de 2012 15:41 Assunto: Vagas de Programador FGV - PJ - Repassar por favor Para: Pessoal, A FGV esta precisando contratar três pessoas como PJ (um programador júnior, um pleno e um sênior). Para as vagas os valores (PJ) são R$ 4.500,00, R$ 7.000,00 e R$ 11.000,00 (respectivamente). Entrar em contato com: Júnior: XHTML e HTML5; CSS3; Conhecimentos em Javascript/jQuery; Conhecimentos em PHP Bancos de dados MySQL e SQL Server. Experiência em Zend Framework, Linux e sistemas de controle de versão são diferenciais. Pleno: XHTML e HTML5; CSS3; Conhecimentos intermediários em Javascript/jQuery; Conhecimentos intermediários em PHP com Zend Framework; Bancos de dados MySQL e SQL Server; Conhecimentos em servidores WEB; Conhecimentos em Linux e sistemas de controle de versão. Conhecimento em ferramentas de LMS será considerado um diferencial. Sênior: XHTML e HTML5; CSS3; Conhecimentos avançados em Javascript/jQuery; Conhecimentos avançados em PHP com Zend Framework; Bancos de dados MySQL e SQL Server; Conhecimentos em servidores WEB; Experiência em integrações de sistemas; Conhecimentos em Linux e sistemas de controle de versão. Conhecimento em ferramentas de LMS será considerado um diferencial.
Re: [off-topic] Vagas de Programador FGV - PJ - Repassar por favor
Aproveitando a deixa, procuro oportunidade como Analista de suporte, Analista de redes ou Administrador de redes. Caso alguém souber ou me indicar, eu fico muito agradecido. Obrigado. On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 16:27 -0300, Helio Loureiro wrote: FYI -- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: Geisomar Pinto geiso...@gmail.com Data: 11 de setembro de 2012 15:41 Assunto: Vagas de Programador FGV - PJ - Repassar por favor Para: Pessoal, A FGV esta precisando contratar três pessoas como PJ (um programador júnior, um pleno e um sênior). Para as vagas os valores (PJ) são R$ 4.500,00, R$ 7.000,00 e R$ 11.000,00 (respectivamente). Entrar em contato com: Júnior: XHTML e HTML5; CSS3; Conhecimentos em Javascript/jQuery; Conhecimentos em PHP Bancos de dados MySQL e SQL Server. Experiência em Zend Framework, Linux e sistemas de controle de versão são diferenciais. Pleno: XHTML e HTML5; CSS3; Conhecimentos intermediários em Javascript/jQuery; Conhecimentos intermediários em PHP com Zend Framework; Bancos de dados MySQL e SQL Server; Conhecimentos em servidores WEB; Conhecimentos em Linux e sistemas de controle de versão. Conhecimento em ferramentas de LMS será considerado um diferencial. Sênior: XHTML e HTML5; CSS3; Conhecimentos avançados em Javascript/jQuery; Conhecimentos avançados em PHP com Zend Framework; Bancos de dados MySQL e SQL Server; Conhecimentos em servidores WEB; Experiência em integrações de sistemas; Conhecimentos em Linux e sistemas de controle de versão. Conhecimento em ferramentas de LMS será considerado um diferencial. -- Adiel de Lima Ribeiro facebook.com/sembr.dyndns.info
DNS reverso operadora OI URGENTE.
Olá lista, Alguem aqui na lista trabalha com a operadora OI, tendo ela como seu link principal? Estou tendo dificuldades com meu reverso que funcionava perfeitamente em outra operadora. Tenho um firewall com a interface externa configurada com 2 IPs: 200.xxx.xxx.1 200.xxx.xxx.2 Nesse mesmo firewall tenho um forward para meu server interno no IP 192.168.254.2, na porta 53, TCP e UDP. No registro.br já esta tudo OK. Na operadora anterior funcionava perfeitamente, agora com a OI, só funciona meu site, meus e-mails estão voltando praticamente quase que todos por falta do reverso. Ja entrei em contato com o 0800 deles, mais eles informam que a OI não faz esse tipo de serviço. Como não fazem se são eles os detentores do range. Na operadora antiga habilitei isso em 40 ninutinhos e estava tudo OK. Alguem ai usa a OI como operadora de dados, qual o caminho das pedras para que meu reverso volte a funcionar? Se tiverem telefone, e-mail, pager, sinal de fumaça de alguem que saiba do que estou falando lá dentro, agradeço desde já.
Re: DNS reverso operadora OI URGENTE.
Boa tarde Gustavo, Realmente um grande problema. A OI quem deveria criar o dns reverso para voc, visto que so eles os detentores dos ips. A outra forma seria a OI criar um dns delegado para voc. Mas se ele no criaram o reverso, creio que no vai adiantar nada falar com eles sobre delegao de dns. Fica bem, ___ Francisco C Soares ( Junior ) 403790c89847cdbe5a262146de8fb93139c4 On 09/11/2012 05:19 PM, Gustavo Villela wrote: Ol lista, Alguem aqui na lista trabalha com a operadora OI, tendo ela como seu link principal? Estou tendo dificuldades com meu reverso que funcionava perfeitamente em outra operadora. Tenho um firewall com a interface externa configurada com 2 IPs: 200.xxx.xxx.1 200.xxx.xxx.2 Nesse mesmo firewall tenho um forward para meu server interno no IP 192.168.254.2, na porta 53, TCP e UDP. No registro.br j esta tudo OK. Na operadora anterior funcionava perfeitamente, agora com a OI, s funciona meu site, meus e-mails esto voltando praticamente quase que todos por falta do reverso. Ja entrei em contato com o 0800 deles, mais eles informam que a OI no faz esse tipo de servio. Como no fazem se so eles os detentores do range. Na operadora antiga habilitei isso em 40 ninutinhos e estava tudo OK. Alguem ai usa a OI como operadora de dados, qual o caminho das pedras para que meu reverso volte a funcionar? Se tiverem telefone, e-mail, pager, sinal de fumaa de alguem que saiba do que estou falando l dentro, agradeo desde j. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f9fb1.6060...@gmail.com
Re: [off-topic] Vagas de Programador FGV - PJ - Repassar por favor
O Helio o contato é com o Geisomar? Abraço. Em 11 de setembro de 2012 16:34, Adiel de Lima Ribeiro adiel.netad...@gmail.com escreveu: ** Aproveitando a deixa, procuro oportunidade como Analista de suporte, Analista de redes ou Administrador de redes. Caso alguém souber ou me indicar, eu fico muito agradecido. Obrigado. On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 16:27 -0300, Helio Loureiro wrote: FYI -- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: Geisomar Pinto geiso...@gmail.com Data: 11 de setembro de 2012 15:41 Assunto: Vagas de Programador FGV - PJ - Repassar por favor Para: Pessoal, A FGV esta precisando contratar três pessoas como PJ (um programador júnior, um pleno e um sênior). Para as vagas os valores (PJ) são R$ 4.500,00, R$ 7.000,00 e R$ 11.000,00 (respectivamente). Entrar em contato com: Júnior: XHTML e HTML5; CSS3; Conhecimentos em Javascript/jQuery; Conhecimentos em PHP Bancos de dados MySQL e SQL Server. Experiência em Zend Framework, Linux e sistemas de controle de versão são diferenciais. Pleno: XHTML e HTML5; CSS3; Conhecimentos intermediários em Javascript/jQuery; Conhecimentos intermediários em PHP com Zend Framework; Bancos de dados MySQL e SQL Server; Conhecimentos em servidores WEB; Conhecimentos em Linux e sistemas de controle de versão. Conhecimento em ferramentas de LMS será considerado um diferencial. Sênior: XHTML e HTML5; CSS3; Conhecimentos avançados em Javascript/jQuery; Conhecimentos avançados em PHP com Zend Framework; Bancos de dados MySQL e SQL Server; Conhecimentos em servidores WEB; Experiência em integrações de sistemas; Conhecimentos em Linux e sistemas de controle de versão. Conhecimento em ferramentas de LMS será considerado um diferencial. -- Adiel de Lima Ribeirofacebook.com/sembr.dyndns.info -- Bryan Magalhães Silva
Re: DNS reverso operadora OI URGENTE.
Gustavo, já passei pelo mesmo problema e só conseguí na 5ª ligação para o suporte da Oi, quando falei com o Coordenador do Help Desk. Te aconselho fazer o mesmo. Abraço. Em 11 de setembro de 2012 17:31, Francisco C Soares dotjun...@gmail.comescreveu: Boa tarde Gustavo, Realmente é um grande problema. A OI é quem deveria criar o dns reverso para você, visto que são eles os detentores dos ips. A outra forma seria a OI criar um dns delegado para você. Mas se ele não criaram o reverso, creio que não vai adiantar nada falar com eles sobre delegação de dns. Fica bem, ___ Francisco C Soares ( *Junior* ) 403790c89847cdbe5a262146de8fb93139c4 On 09/11/2012 05:19 PM, Gustavo Villela wrote: Olá lista, Alguem aqui na lista trabalha com a operadora OI, tendo ela como seu link principal? Estou tendo dificuldades com meu reverso que funcionava perfeitamente em outra operadora. Tenho um firewall com a interface externa configurada com 2 IPs: 200.xxx.xxx.1 200.xxx.xxx.2 Nesse mesmo firewall tenho um forward para meu server interno no IP 192.168.254.2, na porta 53, TCP e UDP. No registro.br já esta tudo OK. Na operadora anterior funcionava perfeitamente, agora com a OI, só funciona meu site, meus e-mails estão voltando praticamente quase que todos por falta do reverso. Ja entrei em contato com o 0800 deles, mais eles informam que a OI não faz esse tipo de serviço. Como não fazem se são eles os detentores do range. Na operadora antiga habilitei isso em 40 ninutinhos e estava tudo OK. Alguem ai usa a OI como operadora de dados, qual o caminho das pedras para que meu reverso volte a funcionar? Se tiverem telefone, e-mail, pager, sinal de fumaça de alguem que saiba do que estou falando lá dentro, agradeço desde já. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f9fb1.6060...@gmail.com -- Diego Vaz Linux User nº 41570 Notebook Linux nº 401703 http://counter.li.org/
Re: 3 monitores
Em 11-09-2012 16:17, Fred Maranhão escreveu: Em 11/09/12, Linux - Junior Polegatoli...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu: Em 11-09-2012 15:13, Fred Maranhão escreveu: ... Olá! Creio que o mais provável seja que você tenha 2 GPUs e cada uma pode interfacear com uma conexão, daí não é possível usar as 3 conexões ao mesmo tempo, tente procurar por algo assim... como eu vejo as configurações de GPU na minha máquina? Já testou o driver para Windows ou consultou manual sobre usar as 3 conexões simultaneamente para desencargo de consciência? Não tenho nem windows nem manual do hardware. e acho difícil que no manual vá falar isto. Olá! O Google é seu amigo... Use o lspci para listar as placas e veja qual o modelo da sua VGA, pelo Google este HP tem ATI Radeon HD 5470, hibrido com a onboard Intel, que deve ser/estar desabilitada. Pela ATI: http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/graphics/ati-mobility-hd-5400/Pages/hd-5470-specs.aspx Pelas especificações, GPU com saída dual: * Integrated dual-link DVI output with HDCP^13 o Max resolution: 2560x1600^14 Também com três conexões: * Integrated DisplayPort output o Max resolution: 2560x1600^14 * Integrated HDMI 1.3 output with Deep Color, xvYCC wide gamut support, and high bit-rate audio o Max resolution: 1920x1200^14 * Integrated VGA output o Max resolution: 2048x1536^14 []'s Junior Polegato
Re: 3 monitores
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012, Fred Maranhão wrote: Creio que o mais provável seja que você tenha 2 GPUs e cada uma pode interfacear com uma conexão, daí não é possível usar as 3 conexões ao mesmo tempo, tente procurar por algo assim... como eu vejo as configurações de GPU na minha máquina? O nome certo disso é CRTC, e você quase que com certeza só terá dois deles em uma GPU embarcada. Mais que isso só é comum em GPUs high-end. 2 CRTCs podem alimentar mais de 2 saídas, mas algumas terão que ser cópias exatas de outras. E isso somente se todo o resto permitir essa configuração (hardware da placa de vídeo, GPU, driver, XRandR). Tenta ativar com o xrandr a terceira saida, mas usando --same-as uma das saidas já ativas. Aliás, o xrandr sabe quantos CRTCs existem, e quais podem ser utilizados para cada saída: xrandr --verbose --query Olhe as linhas com o texto CRTC. Elas dizem quais CRTCs cada saída pode utilizar, e qual está em uso. Quando tem mais de um, eles aparecem em lista: CRTC: 0; CRTCs: 0 1; (; significa em outra linha) implica que está usando o CRTC 0, e poderia usar o CRTC 0 ou o CRTC 1. Achar isso no manual do chipset Intel que contem a GPU dá trabalho (a menos que tenha um diagrama em blocos da GPU que mostre quantos CRTCs ela tem), mas deve estar lá também. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911212619.ga30...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: DNS reverso operadora OI URGENTE.
Boa noite, O padrão é você ligar para a operadora e pedir a delegação do DNS Reverso para você. Eles vão te pedir os dados dos teus servidores. Abraço. Em 11 de setembro de 2012 17:56, Diego Vaz diegod...@gmail.com escreveu: Gustavo, já passei pelo mesmo problema e só conseguí na 5ª ligação para o suporte da Oi, quando falei com o Coordenador do Help Desk. Te aconselho fazer o mesmo. Abraço. Em 11 de setembro de 2012 17:31, Francisco C Soares dotjun...@gmail.comescreveu: Boa tarde Gustavo, Realmente é um grande problema. A OI é quem deveria criar o dns reverso para você, visto que são eles os detentores dos ips. A outra forma seria a OI criar um dns delegado para você. Mas se ele não criaram o reverso, creio que não vai adiantar nada falar com eles sobre delegação de dns. Fica bem, ___ Francisco C Soares ( *Junior* ) 403790c89847cdbe5a262146de8fb93139c4 On 09/11/2012 05:19 PM, Gustavo Villela wrote: Olá lista, Alguem aqui na lista trabalha com a operadora OI, tendo ela como seu link principal? Estou tendo dificuldades com meu reverso que funcionava perfeitamente em outra operadora. Tenho um firewall com a interface externa configurada com 2 IPs: 200.xxx.xxx.1 200.xxx.xxx.2 Nesse mesmo firewall tenho um forward para meu server interno no IP 192.168.254.2, na porta 53, TCP e UDP. No registro.br já esta tudo OK. Na operadora anterior funcionava perfeitamente, agora com a OI, só funciona meu site, meus e-mails estão voltando praticamente quase que todos por falta do reverso. Ja entrei em contato com o 0800 deles, mais eles informam que a OI não faz esse tipo de serviço. Como não fazem se são eles os detentores do range. Na operadora antiga habilitei isso em 40 ninutinhos e estava tudo OK. Alguem ai usa a OI como operadora de dados, qual o caminho das pedras para que meu reverso volte a funcionar? Se tiverem telefone, e-mail, pager, sinal de fumaça de alguem que saiba do que estou falando lá dentro, agradeço desde já. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f9fb1.6060...@gmail.com -- Diego Vaz Linux User nº 41570 Notebook Linux nº 401703 http://counter.li.org/
Re: Installation
On Lu, 10 sep 12, 19:30:47, Weaver wrote: OEM versions of Windows have been always there (in fact, most of the notebooks/netbooks only provide the OEM version). For desktop computers or servers that you can build by yourself, it's easier to get an empty disk and then buy a copy of the full (non-OEMized) Windows installation disk (well, buy enclosed in quotes because a high percent of Windows users do not pay a cent for their OS, you know...). I think you have to keep those ones off-line? That would mean 70-80% of Romanian home users[1] (and lots of SOHO users too) should be offline. Yeah, right! I've seen a completely remastered Windows XP install iso of about 250 MB, with all Service Packs available at the time applied and several other common tweaks to increase network performance and such, all explained during the installation (instead of the usual marketing stuff). The advances in Windows-cracking technology have been amazing ;) Unfortunately updates are turned off (of course), which makes those systems easy prey for viruses/worms/etc. and they end up in botnets :( [1] not 90%+ anymore, because laptops are often bought with Windows pre-installed. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Lu, 10 sep 12, 22:13:06, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:55:36 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: I use the first method with cdtool. Let's get the obvious out of the way. You're in the cdrom and audio groups. The cable is connected correctly and securely. The speakers are connected correctly to the output of the sound card. I can confirm that my userid is in the cdrom and audio groups. I haven't checked the cable connections yet, but I plan to do that tomorrow. But the problem seems to be more systemic. I can't seem to get aplay to work on a .wav file. It runs, and it generates messages on the screen, but no sound. What does speaker-test -c2 -t wav do (both as user and root)? Pulseaudio isn't on my system but isn't it a daemon? Wouldn't stopping it allow you to eliminate it as a cause? pulseaudio is a depends (not a recommends) dependency of gnome-core; so I can't de-install it. Assuming you really want to keep Gnome there are several workarounds for that: - just remove the gnome-core metapackage and keep all other dependencies - equivs (either build a replacement metapackage or a replacement dependency) - dpkg --force-depends Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Adding entry to /dev
On Lu, 10 sep 12, 23:04:37, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: Dear list - How do I add a new entry to /dev; eg, /dev/sdb? You don't (usually need to do this). Please explain in detail what you are trying to achieve. Your question sounds like the typical XY problem[1]. [1] http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=542341 Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ntpd crashes.
On 11 September 2012 00:08, Gerald Turner gtur...@unzane.com wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 13:31:16 +0200, Mauro wrote: Hello I've two server with debian squeeze and in cluster with heartbeat+pacemaker. They run ntpd for time synchronize. I've noticed some ntpd crashes in random days and random hour. Does restarting the service works? Logs don't say why. Can you suggest what can I do to know the reasons for the crash. Thank you. Mmmm... there's a bug report¹ to request ntpd debugging flag is turned on (which I think is a must) but in the meantime I guess you will have to recompile the package from Debian sources and toggle this parameter on if you want to get an insightful trace. ¹http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=643954 I too get random crashes with ntpd in squeeze (1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1+b1) on a Xen dom0 host. Frequency is about every two months. It prompted me to install monit² which has nice support for probing NTP protocol and restarting the service automatically - not a perfect solution since the clock jumps forward an hour during the breakage, upsetting lots of software (dovecot and RRD graphs mostly). Exactly. I too have Xen dom0 hosts where ntp crashes. I think the best solution is uninstall ntp and use ntpdate with cron. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAE17a0WZG7K1hKWEWdOPyVwXXZmPt18j=6v1wr8w5tqjthp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 09:33 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 09:10 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 10 sep 12, 22:13:06, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:55:36 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: I use the first method with cdtool. Let's get the obvious out of the way. You're in the cdrom and audio groups. The cable is connected correctly and securely. The speakers are connected correctly to the output of the sound card. I can confirm that my userid is in the cdrom and audio groups. I haven't checked the cable connections yet, but I plan to do that tomorrow. But the problem seems to be more systemic. I can't seem to get aplay to work on a .wav file. It runs, and it generates messages on the screen, but no sound. What does speaker-test -c2 -t wav do (both as user and root)? Pulseaudio isn't on my system but isn't it a daemon? Wouldn't stopping it allow you to eliminate it as a cause? pulseaudio is a depends (not a recommends) dependency of gnome-core; so I can't de-install it. Assuming you really want to keep Gnome there are several workarounds for that: - just remove the gnome-core metapackage and keep all other dependencies - equivs (either build a replacement metapackage or a replacement dependency) - dpkg --force-depends There are two ways to get rid of pulseaudio: 1. Compile gnome-settings-daemon with --disable-pulse, if Debian didn't change something, this is the part that upstream makes hard depend on pulseaudio. Take a look at the Arch PKGBUILD http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48718 . 2. Build an empty dummy package. BUILD A DUMMY PACKAGE FOR pulseaudio. Don't build it for the lib, not for a meta package and not for the gnome-settings-daemon. I did this for Debian and I'm using one for Arch. It's easy to build a dummy package for Debian using equivs. This howto isn't obsolete: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347348977.1260.21.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 09:10 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 10 sep 12, 22:13:06, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:55:36 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: I use the first method with cdtool. Let's get the obvious out of the way. You're in the cdrom and audio groups. The cable is connected correctly and securely. The speakers are connected correctly to the output of the sound card. I can confirm that my userid is in the cdrom and audio groups. I haven't checked the cable connections yet, but I plan to do that tomorrow. But the problem seems to be more systemic. I can't seem to get aplay to work on a .wav file. It runs, and it generates messages on the screen, but no sound. What does speaker-test -c2 -t wav do (both as user and root)? Pulseaudio isn't on my system but isn't it a daemon? Wouldn't stopping it allow you to eliminate it as a cause? pulseaudio is a depends (not a recommends) dependency of gnome-core; so I can't de-install it. Assuming you really want to keep Gnome there are several workarounds for that: - just remove the gnome-core metapackage and keep all other dependencies - equivs (either build a replacement metapackage or a replacement dependency) - dpkg --force-depends There are two ways to get rid of pulseaudio: 1. Compile gnome-settings-daemon with --disable-pulse, if Debian didn't change something, this is the part that upstream makes hard depend on pulseaudio. Take a look at the Arch PKGBUILD http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48718 . 2. Build an empty dummy package. I did this for Debian and I'm using one for Arch. It's easy to build a dummy package for Debian using equivs. This howto isn't obsolete: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347348834.1260.19.camel@localhost.localdomain
OT: Installation
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 19:49 -0700, Weaver wrote: MC isn't installed by default and I think it should be. I didn't know that MC comes with an editor. I'll install mc today and test it again. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347350322.1260.31.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: What Version To Install On iMac?
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:55:21PM +0200, lee wrote: Disapproved is as much an adjective as deprecated. Not when I went to school. English is not your native language? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911075110.GB28151@tal
Re: Installation
Le 11/09/2012 04:23, Weaver a écrit : I get the point. It's just not an accurate or germaine one...because you quoted out of context. it's germane, now. Germaine has been a firstname for some time. More seriously : I don't mean to offend you, Weaver, but you should probably try to stick to simple English. This is an international list, and I'm betting some people have no idea what you're on about - to the others, your posts just sound a little pompous ;) What I am saying there needs advisory material placed into the installation process so that newbies can make INFORMED decisions and People aren't going to spend the time it would take them to learn everything they need to make informed decisions about the options the installer gives them, no matter how much documentation you put into it. And here you do it again. This is one small page, with information pertaining to partitioning and file-systems. There is no need to put documentation into the installer pertaining to every subject it addresses. There simply isn't a need that I can see. Why do you distort the direction of the discussion to that degree? For more than a decade now you need a working computer to install an operating system on another one so that you can acquire information and additional software as needed. Why isn't that included in the installer? Because that is an issue that somebody with a basic mastery over their system and sufficient experience with Debian is capable of chasing down themselves. This discussion is centred round the issue a newbie would experience when confronted by the partitioning stage of the installer. Just boot from the installation media and be presented with a working system and an installer, allowing you to switch between them. For those who don't want to or are unable to learn, have a button they can press to perform the installation, no matter what and no questions asked. However, those are the kind of people who better stay away from computers, which makes it doubtful how useful such a thing would be. That is not what is being advocated and I don't see the relevance with Debian either. The whole exercise is a requirement to advise. Not remove choice or the power of personal decision making over even a newbie's system. An advisory, of this nature, as I have already said, would be the first step that supplies that revelatory Ah Hah! moment that encourages exploration. Not one that inhibits access to knowledge. Regards, Weaver -- David Cho-Lerat Mobile : +33 623 057 174 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504eefc9.1000...@asterion.fr
Re: Installation
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:26:15PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 10 sep 12, 14:06:07, Camaleón wrote: disk (well, buy enclosed in quotes because a high percent of Windows users do not pay a cent for their OS, you know...). An Microsoft has no real incentive to force them to, because people would just look for alternatives. Its almost impossible to get it going if you don't have that dammned product number. That alone, should be enough to push people to Linux. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911080135.GC28151@tal
Re: LXC container shutdowns master host
You were ABSOLUTELY right, Karl! Thank you, problem was solved! I'll try to describe it in details... We get two instances of operating system -- one is host OS, and another is LXC-container. And they have shared /dev (via bind-mount). Both of them have their own /sbin/init running. I far as I understood, init process recreates /dev/initctl pipe in case it can't find it OR it doesn't belong to it -- approximately every two seconds. So, half of time we have host's initctl in /dev -- and another half of time we have container's initctl there. And if we issue shutdown command (from host or from container, no matter actually) -- it can end in two equiprobable ways: 1) host goes down (if we get host's initctl in /dev that moment); 2) container goes down (if we get container's initctl in /dev that moment). 10.09.2012 13:36, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: Hi On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:38:03AM +0100, Andrew Kulikov wrote: Hi all, I am using LXC containers to run isolated Debian instances. When I enter the container (via lxc-console command) and issue shutdown command inside the container -- master host goes down. It happens if I issue shutdown -r, shutdown -h or just shutdown commands. It happens not every time -- in some cases behavior is correct: shutdown command doesn't affect master host and container just goes down. Have you got /dev bind-mounted to the container? If so, that could explain it, as they will end up sharing /dev/initctl - which controls init, and thus controls runlevels and shutdown... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504ede23.3030...@qiwi.ru
Re: Installation
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:06:33PM +0200, lee wrote: And where's the 40GB (or whatever size it is) Blueray image that has all the packages plus all the stuff from non-free plus a life system plus lots of documentation on it so that I can simply download that and boot and press a button and it just installs and works, without requiring internet access in the first place? --- The on-board ethernet card of my desktop doesn't work out of the box, so how the hell am I supposed to know what to do without a working computer that enables me to look for a solution? M, now how much would you pay for that? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911081005.GD28151@tal
Re: Storage server
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:38:22 +0200 Veljko velj...@gmail.com wrote: Any particular reason for avoiding rsnapshot? What are advantages of using rdiff-backup or obnam? Hi Veljko, I don't know a reason why someone should avoid rsnapshot. rdiff-backup is very similar to rsnapshot but handles the backup generations differently. rsnapshot always backup whole files (and uses hardlinks if a file didn't change). rdiff-backup just save the newest backup as normal files, every older version is stored as compressed delta. If you have to backup large files like databases or huge logfiles rdiff-backup will save you a lot of diskspace doing so (which is for me the biggest advantage of rdiff-backup). On the other hand it takes much longer to restore an old rdiff-backup than an rsnapshot one. rdiff-backup is a bit more flexible when it comes to decide when to delete old backups. rsnapshot has a fixed scheme. rdiff-backup has a command you can trigger manually (or by a script when the diskspace is running low). So, for example, you can guarantee your users that there will be a backup for at least 7 days but in fact keep files as long as there is diskspace available. rdiff-backup stores metadata (such as ownership) separately. rsnapshot just keep the settings the file has. rsnapshot have a larger user basis, so you might can expect some more support if you're running into problems. obnam uses a completely different approach. Everything is stored in a repository. It has some nice features but last time I had a look I decided against using it (but I can't remember exactly why) so I can't tell much about it. bup is very interesting but at the moment not mature enough to be used, IMHO. Also there is (at the moment) no function to delete old backups, so if you're running out of diskspace you have to buy new hardware. I'm using rsnapshot for most of my backup needs. It's very easy to use and understand. Best regards Denis Witt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911104104.7395f69c@X200
Re: Installation
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 07:49:39PM -0700, Weaver wrote: I installed the Debian version of Linux Mint to have a look at it and noticed a comment in the onsite forum asking when 'the KDE Version' would be coming out. I found aptitude underneath it all and laughed. Why? Unless, I'm wrong, it will either be .rpm, or .deb based (or flavours thereof?). So no suprises there. In about half an hour I had my usual mixed Debian system of some Gnome apps, some KDE, a sprinkle of XFCE and Enlightenment to hold it all together. Nothing new there! Now install DSL (Dammned Small Linux), and see how long it takes to get back to a Debian system. You'll learn a bit about how the system is structured. ;) The configurability of Debian answers to all tastes and once a new user has had a little time to become orientated, they will do what we all do and start to play. Not my experience. Once its up and running, all they are interested in is browsing, blogging, email etc. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911090522.GE28151@tal
Re: ntpd crashes.
Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best solution is uninstall ntp and use ntpdate with cron. Not a particularly good solution for a number of reasons. Mainly, though, you need to be aware that ntpdate is quite likely to jump the clock. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/62b3i9xl5c@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: Storage server
I would say that neither hardware nor software RAID are a replacement for a working backup scheme. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911094342.GA11893@debian
Re: Installation
Le Lun 10 septembre 2012 21:06, lee a écrit : David Cho-Lerat david.le...@asterion.fr writes: For more than a decade now you need a working computer to install an operating system on another one so that you can acquire information and additional software as needed. Why isn't that included in the installer? Just boot from the installation media and be presented with a working system and an installer, allowing you to switch between them. that's called Debian Live : http://live.debian.net/ When it already exists, why isn't that part of the installer? It's a typical page, btw: 1.) How do you find this website? Is it referred to anywhere from [1]? 2.) How the hell are you supposed to know what to download? 3.) How do you download and put it on a storage media I can boot from without a working computer? (Most ppl will probably just copy what they downloaded to their USB stick or maybe burn the file on a CD and then find out they can't boot from it.) And look at [1]: It's difficult to figure out what to download. It's very difficult to find the installer if you want to install testing. And then you have downloaded it and start installing on your laptop and it won't work because your wireless card (or something else) doesn't work. It probably doesn't work with the live image, either. Do you seriously expect ppl to figure out how to install Debian? The documentation they have on their websites isn't very good, that's why I say typical page above. And where's the 40GB (or whatever size it is) Blueray image that has all the packages plus all the stuff from non-free plus a life system plus lots of documentation on it so that I can simply download that and boot and press a button and it just installs and works, without requiring internet access in the first place? --- The on-board ethernet card of my desktop doesn't work out of the box, so how the hell am I supposed to know what to do without a working computer that enables me to look for a solution? And where do I go for the downloading and burning? It isn't something that I could get in an arbitrary computer store somewhere in town. Can I even burn a blueray disk with what's in Debian? Now try to explain to an arbitrary person who probably has never installed any OS and who asks questions like What is an operating system? and What is a hard disk? how to install Debian. I guess the amount of education required is way beyond the scope of an installer. Then there's the installer itself. It can't even do simple things, like make a software RAID-1 from two whole disks, let me partition the raid and install on it. It goes through all the installation, taking my time, and when it's finally almost done, it tells me it cannot install grub. Partitioning the disks first and making the RAID from the partitions doesn't work, either. It's a total failure --- sorry, but that sucks. (Why hasn't that been fixed in the last 3 years? Instead, there's a graphical installer which nobody needs and which I wanted to try because it might work. It freezes the computer when booting, works really great, yeah ...) So it took a whole day to get at least almost everything onto the raid, and I'm not happy with it because not everything is on the raid. Now explain the arbitrary person why they can't install Debian on a software RAID-1 and why getting close to it takes a whole day: Oh it takes a whole day to install and still isn't right? What kind of crappy software is that? Why don't you use windoze or a Mac? I'm curious, can you put windoze or macos on a software RAID? [1]: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bohd7l52@yun.yagibdah.de About the non-presence of non-free and contrib packages, I think it is normal. I personally use non-free softwares (well... flash, wifi drivers and opera, for the two firsts I do not really have choice) but I know that Debian's way is not really to provide such tools. Ubuntu does it. About an automated install, did you tried the auto way? I think I tried it some years ago, but I do not remember if it asks about partitions. If yes, I guess this is an issue which could be fixed. Also, it is not really easy to find this option... I mean, user need to go to advanced or equivalent menu to find it. Which is not really automated, right? Well, honestly, I think the better thing for a true end-user system would be an installer which install a debian stable distro with non-free enabled by default, at least to install flash and drivers (which are things really needed by users). Ubuntu sounds to break itself quite often (As far as I heard, I never tried it long enough to say I know) because being based on sid... But there is also a need to avoid creating Yet Another Debian Like
Re: Storage server
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 05:38:10PM +0200, Veljko wrote: Not that hard to comprehend. My boss sees backup as necessary evil. And only after I pushed it. Before I got here, there was no backup. None whatsover. I was baffled. And I had situation few days on my arrival, that one of databases got corrupted. Managed to find some old backup and with data we already had saved, restored database. But that situation is You could use the database management tools and take a pg_dump and stick it on a USB stick each night? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911094513.GF28151@tal
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:13:06PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:55:36 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: I use the first method with cdtool. Let's get the obvious out of the way. You're in the cdrom and audio groups. The cable is connected correctly and securely. The speakers are connected correctly to the output of the sound card. I can confirm that my userid is in the cdrom and audio groups. I haven't checked the cable connections yet, but I plan to do that tomorrow. But the problem seems to be more systemic. I can't seem to get aplay to work on a .wav file. It runs, and it generates messages on the screen, but no sound. Pulseaudio isn't on my system but isn't it a daemon? Wouldn't stopping it allow you to eliminate it as a cause? pulseaudio is a depends (not a recommends) dependency of gnome-core; so I can't de-install it. As for killing the daemon, gnome automatically re-spawns pulseaudio if I kill the daemon. I have to stop gnome. But even then, no output from playing audio CDs and no output from aplay. Yet, gnome can generate sounds. Maddening. If you suspect that pulseaudio is hogging your sound system and that the program you're using also wants to talk to the sound system itself, then you might try re-routing the sound through pulseaudio: $ padsp some-program-that-uses-OSS In the same way that we had a user recently who was trying to use OSS-based programs to talk to ALSA, you may need this compatibility layer to allow your programs to talk to pulseaudio. P.S. I don't know why this would affect cdtool as that should, in theory, bypass any software, but maybe I don't understand sound cards as well as I think. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Adding entry to /dev
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:04:37PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: Dear list - How do I add a new entry to /dev; eg, /dev/sdb? Short answer: You don't. Have you installed a hard disk and it is not being seen by the OS? Are you plugging in a USB device and it is not being seen by the OS? Something else? http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911101546.GH28151@tal
[OT] web hosting server files
Hi, I put some files on the hosting server, those files can be viewed via the explicit url, such as web.xxx.com/~lina/some_file.html There are no any link built from homepage. I wonder if someone else, without knowing the explicit name, whether can they get or not? I tried wget -c web.xxx.com/~lina/* not work. is it safe? Thanks with best regards, P.S I don't have someone to ask, so just ask here. Thanks again for your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f118a.6060...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] web hosting server files
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 06:25:14PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, I put some files on the hosting server, those files can be viewed via the explicit url, such as web.xxx.com/~lina/some_file.html There are no any link built from homepage. I wonder if someone else, without knowing the explicit name, whether can they get or not? I tried wget -c web.xxx.com/~lina/* not work. Try just http://web.xxx.com/~lina/ Some web servers, when told to serve a directory, will provide a listing of the files in the directory; some will check for index.html first. I'd suggest talking to the webmaster for web.xxx.com and seeing how the web server is configured. If the link I provided above gives you a listing, then look at either turning that feature off or countering it with an index.html page. Once that's done then, no, it should be difficult to find the page without knowing the direct link. However, don't mistake this for security. All it could take is for someone to bookmark the page and suddenly the page is known. By the way, I shan't make any judgements on your hosting provider looking like a porn site :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installation
[Please trim you posts, thanks.] On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:01:13AM +0200, David Cho-Lerat wrote: Le 11/09/2012 04:23, Weaver a écrit : I get the point. It's just not an accurate or germaine one...because you quoted out of context. it's germane, now. Germaine has been a firstname for some time. More seriously : I don't mean to offend you, Weaver, but you should probably try to stick to simple English. This is an international list, LOL, You mean all those other debian-user (debian-user-catalan ... debian-user-vietnamese) are for show? Do you mean words of one syllable, when you refer to simple English At one time, having a rich vocabulary was desired, now its considered pompous? :( -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911103609.GA32259@tal
Re: ntpd crashes.
On 11 September 2012 10:58, Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote: Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best solution is uninstall ntp and use ntpdate with cron. Not a particularly good solution for a number of reasons. Mainly, though, you need to be aware that ntpdate is quite likely to jump the clock. If ntp stops running with apparently no reasons I don't know what else I can do. I need to have time synchronized between my servers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cae17a0xeit6qthg3ewn+uhegu73p71pvc-ns6hqb1dvjerz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ntpd crashes.
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 12:54 +0200, Mauro wrote: On 11 September 2012 10:58, Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote: Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best solution is uninstall ntp and use ntpdate with cron. Not a particularly good solution for a number of reasons. Mainly, though, you need to be aware that ntpdate is quite likely to jump the clock. If ntp stops running with apparently no reasons I don't know what else I can do. I need to have time synchronized between my servers. I'm a ntpdate and sntp user. I never had issues using ntpdate and sntp manually. I don't sync the clock by a cron job. Does jump the clock mean that the time is synced hard, ignoring timestamps? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347361420.1250.23.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: Storage server
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:03:43PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: If you ignore the references to the proprietary backup software this is a very interesting reading http://www.taobackup.com/ Kind regards, Andrei Yes, very interesting. Thanks Andrei! Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012092521.gb11...@angelina.example.org
Re: Storage server
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:16:00PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: GRUB needs a space between MBR and first partition. Maybe that space was to small? Or more likely you GPT partitioned the disk (as its 3 TB and MBR does only work upto 2 TB)? Then you need a BIOS boot partition. Unless you use UEFI, then you´d need about 200 MB FAT 32 EFI system partition. Never used BIOS partition till now, but on the other hand, I've never used 3TB disks. Debian reserve 1MB on start of the partition, but I guess that part is used for MBR. But it wasn't hard to find necessary information. I'm not sure what is being copied on freshly installed system. What do you mean by that? SoftRAID just makes sure that all devices data is in sync. Thats needed for a block level based RAID. An hardware RAID controller would have to do this as well. (Unless it uses some map of sectors it already used, then only these would have to be kept in sync, but I am not aware of any hardware RAID controller or SoftRAID mode that does this.) Didn't think it would took that much time to sync empty disks, but now it does make sense. BTRFS based RAID (RAID 1 means something different there) does not need an initial sync. But then no, thats no recommendation to use BTRFS yet. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 I've tried BTRFS in testing environment, it worked well, but I wouldn't use it until btrfsck is ready and stable. Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012092602.gc11...@angelina.example.org
Re: Storage server
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 07:47:52PM +0200, lee wrote: Did you get it to actually install on the RAID and to boot from that? Last time I tried with a RAID-1, it didn't work. It's ridiculously difficult to get it set up so that everything is on software raid. Yes, everything is on RAID. 2 boot partitions are on RAID1, everything else, 4 big partition are on RAID10. Didn't work until I used mentioned 1MB BIOS boot partition at the beginning of all four disks. Anyhow, this is output of cat /proc/mdstat: Personalities : [raid1] [raid10] md1 : active raid10 sda3[0] sdd2[3] sdc2[2] sdb3[1] 5859288064 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/4] [] [==..] resync = 32.1% (1881658368/5859288064) finish=325.2min speed=203828K/sec md0 : active raid1 sda2[0] sdb2[1] 488128 blocks super 1.2 [2/2] [UU] unused devices: none I'm not sure what is being copied on freshly installed system. On top of that, by default it'll do a check or rebuild of some sort every first Sunday night of every month. Thanks for the heads up. Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012092617.gd11...@angelina.example.org
Re: Storage server
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:41:04AM +0200, Denis Witt wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:38:22 +0200 Veljko velj...@gmail.com wrote: Any particular reason for avoiding rsnapshot? What are advantages of using rdiff-backup or obnam? Hi Veljko, I don't know a reason why someone should avoid rsnapshot. rdiff-backup is very similar to rsnapshot but handles the backup generations differently. rsnapshot always backup whole files (and uses hardlinks if a file didn't change). rdiff-backup just save the newest backup as normal files, every older version is stored as compressed delta. If you have to backup large files like databases or huge logfiles rdiff-backup will save you a lot of diskspace doing so (which is for me the biggest advantage of rdiff-backup). On the other hand it takes much longer to restore an old rdiff-backup than an rsnapshot one. rdiff-backup is a bit more flexible when it comes to decide when to delete old backups. rsnapshot has a fixed scheme. rdiff-backup has a command you can trigger manually (or by a script when the diskspace is running low). So, for example, you can guarantee your users that there will be a backup for at least 7 days but in fact keep files as long as there is diskspace available. rdiff-backup stores metadata (such as ownership) separately. rsnapshot just keep the settings the file has. rsnapshot have a larger user basis, so you might can expect some more support if you're running into problems. obnam uses a completely different approach. Everything is stored in a repository. It has some nice features but last time I had a look I decided against using it (but I can't remember exactly why) so I can't tell much about it. bup is very interesting but at the moment not mature enough to be used, IMHO. Also there is (at the moment) no function to delete old backups, so if you're running out of diskspace you have to buy new hardware. I'm using rsnapshot for most of my backup needs. It's very easy to use and understand. Best regards Denis Witt Hi, Denis! Thanks for your valuable input. So, in case I have to backup lot of small files and only some of them are changed I should go with rsnapshot. If there are big text files that changes through time, I should go with rdiff-backup. Would it be reasonable to use them both where appropriate or thats just unnecessary complexity? Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012092648.ge11...@angelina.example.org
Re: Storage server
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 09:45:14PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 05:38:10PM +0200, Veljko wrote: Not that hard to comprehend. My boss sees backup as necessary evil. And only after I pushed it. Before I got here, there was no backup. None whatsover. I was baffled. And I had situation few days on my arrival, that one of databases got corrupted. Managed to find some old backup and with data we already had saved, restored database. But that situation is You could use the database management tools and take a pg_dump and stick it on a USB stick each night? I'm backing it up on my machine for the moment, just to have something if, God forbid, another situation arises. But not for long. :) Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012092714.gf11...@angelina.example.org
Re: Storage server
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:06:16PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: If you made sure to explain the risks to your boss you can say in case anything bad happens: I recommended doing backup in a different, safer way than you allowed me to do it and thats the result. Thats exactly what I had in mind. I advised verbally and used emails so I can always have something to put in front of his and his bosses noses. And you are right: Some backup is better than no backup. (PS: And I didn´t want to imply that you were an idiot - my above sentence could be read as that. Sometimes its about a feeling of lack of choice. I wish that you will create more choice for yourself in the future. From what I read from your answers you are quite aware of the situation.) -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de I haven't read it that way. I know what you wanted to say. I'm very grateful to all of you who took your time to read my emails and shared your thoughts on the subject. And thanks for your wishes, Martin, much appreciated. Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012092743.gg11...@angelina.example.org
Re: [OT] web hosting server files
On Tuesday 11,September,2012 06:35 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 06:25:14PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, I put some files on the hosting server, those files can be viewed via the explicit url, such as web.xxx.com/~lina/some_file.html There are no any link built from homepage. I wonder if someone else, without knowing the explicit name, whether can they get or not? I tried wget -c web.xxx.com/~lina/* not work. Try just http://web.xxx.com/~lina/ Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~lina/ on this server. Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at www.xxx.edu Port 80 Some web servers, when told to serve a directory, will provide a listing of the files in the directory; some will check for index.html first. I'd suggest talking to the webmaster for web.xxx.com and seeing how the web server is configured. If the link I provided above gives you a listing, then look at either turning that feature off or countering it with an index.html page. Once that's done then, no, it should be difficult to find the page without knowing the direct link. However, don't mistake this for security. All it could take is for someone to bookmark the page and suddenly the page is known. By the way, I shan't make any judgements on your hosting provider looking like a porn site :) I gave my words, it's a very decent website. Just let me keep some privacy. The xxx is something I used to substitute something else. Thanks with best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f23ba.1040...@gmail.com
Re: Installation
Le 11/09/2012 12:36, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:01:13AM +0200, David Cho-Lerat wrote: Le 11/09/2012 04:23, Weaver a écrit : I get the point. It's just not an accurate or germaine one...because you quoted out of context. it's germane, now. Germaine has been a firstname for some time. More seriously : I don't mean to offend you, Weaver, but you should probably try to stick to simple English. This is an international list, LOL, You mean all those other debian-user (debian-user-catalan ... debian-user-vietnamese) are for show? no, I mean people on debian-user-catalan, for instance, may also be on debian-user - in fact it's very probable. Do you mean words of one syllable, when you refer to simple English no, I mean the Simple English Wikipedia sort of English (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_English_Wikipedia) For short : don't try to sound smart, most people are here looking for help, not looking to be impressed by your mastery of the English language. Or by your clever one-syllable joke :P At one time, having a rich vocabulary was desired, now its considered pompous? :( I'm all for rich vocabulary, when it doesn't get in the way of getting your point across. Do read the posts I'm talking about carefully and I think you'll understand what I mean. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f24f4.1080...@asterion.fr
Satellite P870 issues
heya-- Long time no post, please be nice. :-) I've recently had a stolen laptop replaced with a Toshiba Satellite P870[0]. I currently have debian wheezy 64bit installed, but am having issues getting some hardware to work. The kernel I'm currently running is 3.4.0-10.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 from liquorix.net. My major issue is the video devices. They are apparently a switchable type, so you have the choice to use either the intel or nvidia GPUs. The liquorix kernel made the intel driver work. I had full resolution 1920x1080 and the HDMI worked(no sound). Then I installed xul-ext-firegestures which then caused the i915 kernel module to give me exec format error. After some googling I found the bumblebee[1] project. This apparently allows you to switch video cards. Without researching to much I installed this package from their debian repo. Now the i915 kernel module is loaded, but lspci does not show it as the driver being used for the video card. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device fb12 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 43 Memory at da00 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at 5000 [size=64] Expansion ROM at unassigned [disabled] Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit- Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [a4] PCI Advanced Features root@vengeance:~# lsmod | grep i915 i915 462952 0 intel_agp 11729 1 i915 intel_gtt 16373 3 i915,intel_agp drm_kms_helper 39025 2 i915,nouveau drm 247551 4 ttm,i915,drm_kms_helper,nouveau i2c_algo_bit5749 2 i915,nouveau i2c_core 25541 7 drm,i915,i2c_i801,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,nouveau,videodev video 12217 2 i915,nouveau button 5121 2 i915,nouveau What I'd like to do is run the nvidia card as my primary video, if I don't have the choice to switch between the two. The next issue with this laptop is the ethernet card. 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8161 Gigabit Eth (rev 10) Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff1e Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 7 Memory at da60 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K] I/O ports at 3000 [size=128] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [c0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/16 Maskable+ 64bit+ Capabilities: [d8] MSI-X: Enable- Count=16 Masked- Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting Capabilities: [180] Device Serial Number ff-22-6b-b8-00-26-6c-ff To try and get this to work I downloaded the comapt[2] wireless source for the 3.4 kernel. I then ran the select-driver script for the alx drivers. The make ran fine. However during the make install I received. Note: iwlagn detected, we're going to disable it. If you would like to enable it later you can run: sudo iwl-load iwlagn Running iwl-enable iwlwifi... modprobe: invalid option -- 'l' Module iwl4965 not detected -- this is fine modprobe: invalid option -- 'l' Module iwlagn not detected -- this is fine Note: atl1c detected, we're going to disable it. If you would like to enable it later you can run: sudo alx-load atl1c Running alx-enable alx... modprobe: invalid option -- 'l' Module atl1c not detected -- this is fine modprobe: invalid option -- 'l' depmod will prefer updates/ over kernel/ -- OK! I haven't done anything else for this issue, so any tips would be greatly appreciated. Full lspci -v output[3] and lsmod[4] output have been placed on pastebin. On my wish list to get working also is: - backlit keyboard (I've tried acpi=off[5]) - keyboard special keys - tv tuner Bonus points for tips to get drivers for the ones in lspci that don't have a kernel driver loaded. I've tried to supply as much information as I can, if anything is missing please let me know! --julian 0 - http://bit.ly/RFWoLB 1 - http://bumblebee-project.org/ 2 - http://bit.ly/OnkXCb 3 - http://pastebin.com/a0dPFeLB 4 - http://pastebin.com/zbWrDVx3 5 - http://bit.ly/NXrFz9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f2966.4040...@jdcomputers.com.au
Re: Storage server
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:26:48 +0200 Veljko velj...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be reasonable to use them both where appropriate or thats just unnecessary complexity? Hi Veljko, I prefer backups as simple as it could get (one reason why I use rsnapshot). So personally I wouldn't mix. But if you may want to provide an restore share for your users so they could recover their text files on their own (even then if they deleted/changed them some days ago) I would use rsnapshot for those files. For your Virtual Machines rdiff-backup should be better regarding backup size. So mixing might be worth it. If you don't want your users to recover files on their own, or only the most recent version you can use rdiff-backup for all of your files. If you want a fixed backup policy (e.g. 72h,7d,5w,12m, which means: keep the last 72 hourly backups, the last 7 daily backups, the last 5 weekly backups and the last 12 monthly backups), delta updates and don't want a restore share, take a look at obnam. If you want a fixed policy but there is no need for delta backups take rsnapshot. If you want something in between rdiff-backup might be a good choice. As you can see, it always depends on what you're trying to achieve. So I would suggest you do some tests on your own and choose the tool that fits you most. A nice comparison between rsnapshot and rdiff-backup can be found here: http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2008/02/backup-on-linux-rsnapshot-vs-rdiff/ (Also the comments are very insightful.) Best regards Denis Witt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911141830.0970c664@X200
Re: Installation
On Tue, September 11, 2012 4:48 am, David Cho-Lerat wrote: Le 11/09/2012 12:36, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:01:13AM +0200, David Cho-Lerat wrote: Le 11/09/2012 04:23, Weaver a écrit : I get the point. It's just not an accurate or germaine one...because you quoted out of context. it's germane, now. Germaine has been a firstname for some time. More seriously : I don't mean to offend you, Weaver, but you should probably try to stick to simple English. This is an international list, LOL, You mean all those other debian-user (debian-user-catalan ... debian-user-vietnamese) are for show? no, I mean people on debian-user-catalan, for instance, may also be on debian-user - in fact it's very probable. Do you mean words of one syllable, when you refer to simple English no, I mean the Simple English Wikipedia sort of English (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_English_Wikipedia) For short : don't try to sound smart, most people are here looking for help, not looking to be impressed by your mastery of the English language. Or by your clever one-syllable joke :P At one time, having a rich vocabulary was desired, now its considered pompous? :( I'm all for rich vocabulary, when it doesn't get in the way of getting your point across. Do read the posts I'm talking about carefully and I think you'll understand what I mean. Well, I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm pompous. Possibly just your sense of perception? Regards, Weaver -- It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. -- Thomas Paine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/abb021b71c593813adcb494e7699ad1a.squir...@fulvetta.riseup.net
Re: Adding entry to /dev
On 10/09/12 11:39 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: Dear list - How do I add a new entry to /dev; eg, /dev/sdb? Thanks, Ethan Rosenberg You don't. If the device is detected, it will automatically be added. The trick is to make sure the device is recognized. Can you provide details about the device you want added? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f310e.4070...@rogers.com
Re: OT: Installation
On Tue, September 11, 2012 12:58 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 19:49 -0700, Weaver wrote: MC isn't installed by default and I think it should be. I didn't know that MC comes with an editor. I'll install mc today and test it again. Yes, in the configuration settings, you can select 'Internal Edit'. Regards, Weaver -- It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. -- Thomas Paine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8750758dc11f95aa2115256cc4fb1c77.squir...@fulvetta.riseup.net
Re: Adding entry to /dev
Στις 11/09/2012 06:04 πμ, ο/η Ethan Rosenberg, PhD έγραψε: Dear list - How do I add a new entry to /dev; eg, /dev/sdb? Thanks, Ethan Rosenberg You really shouldn't have to, like everyone else said. But anyway the command you're looking of is mknod. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f38b7.7070...@gmx.com
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Mon 10 Sep 2012 at 22:13:06 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: I can confirm that my userid is in the cdrom and audio groups. I haven't checked the cable connections yet, but I plan to do that tomorrow. But the problem seems to be more systemic. I can't seem to get aplay to work on a .wav file. It runs, and it generates messages on the screen, but no sound. aplay shoud give just one or two lines saying what it is playing, so your diagnosis looks correct. pulseaudio is a depends (not a recommends) dependency of gnome-core; so I can't de-install it. As for killing the daemon, gnome automatically re-spawns pulseaudio if I kill the daemon. I have to stop gnome. But even then, no output from playing audio CDs and no output from aplay. Yet, gnome can generate sounds. Maddening. A quick and reliable way of disabling pulseaudio permanently is with update-rc.d pulseaudio disable But it seems less likely to be at the root of your problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911133343.GZ24280@desktop
Re: Storage server
On 9/10/2012 10:41 AM, Veljko wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I'm not able to find that card here (and I haven't so far), can I have another one? That's hard to believe given the worldwide penetration Adaptec has, and the fact UPS/FedEx ship worldwide. What country are you in? I'm in Serbia. I tried several web sites of more known dealers, but it's possible that they don't have everything listed there on their web sites. If my boss approve buying RAID card, I'll call them to see if they have it or if they can order one. Try German suppliers. Surely they'd have it. If not, how to find appropriate one? One with 8 supported devices, hardware RAID10? What else to look for? One of the big reasons (other than cost) that I mentioned this card is that Adaptec tends to be more forgiving with non RAID specific (ERC/TLER) drives, and lists your Seagate 3TB drives as compatible. LSI and other controllers will not work with these drives due to lack of RAID specific ERC/TLER. I didn't till 30 minutes ago. :) I just installed it for exercise if nothing else. Had a problem with booting. Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda Executing 'grub-intall /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error. After creating 1MB partition at the beginning of every drive with reserved for boot bios it worked (AHCI in BIOS). So now you've run into one of the problems I mentioned that is avoided by booting from a real RAID controller. Anyhow, this is output of cat /proc/mdstat: Personalities : [raid1] [raid10] md1 : active raid10 sda3[0] sdd2[3] sdc2[2] sdb3[1] 5859288064 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/4] [] [==..] resync = 32.1% (1881658368/5859288064) finish=325.2min speed=203828K/sec md0 : active raid1 sda2[0] sdb2[1] 488128 blocks super 1.2 [2/2] [UU] unused devices: none I'm not sure what is being copied on freshly installed system. Someone else already answered this. RAID arrays require initialization of the drives, i.e. filling all sectors with zeros. Always have, probably always will. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f3dfb.80...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Storage server
On 9/11/2012 4:43 AM, Jon Dowland wrote: I would say that neither hardware nor software RAID are a replacement for a working backup scheme. Absolutely correct. RAID protects against drive failure, period. It doesn't protect against accidental file deletion, overwriting a new file with an older version, filesystem corruption due to various causes, etc. It also does not protect against controller or complete host failures, or catastrophic loss of the facility due to man made or natural disasters (hence why off site backup is required for crucial information). -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f3eee.2050...@hardwarefreak.com
Not working ServiceMenus .desktop files in krusader 2.2.0
Im copy *.desktop files in /home/user/.kde/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus Context menu no display in krusader. Debian 6.0.5, Krusader 2.2.0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAKa9F3yDLs951PzZWabo4pv6O6aSq6uYsf5fG=ecwdcvgar...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Storage server
On 9/11/2012 6:26 AM, Veljko wrote: Debian reserve 1MB on start of the partition, but I guess that part is used for MBR. The MBR is stored entirely in the first sector of the drive and is only 512 bytes in size. It includes the bootstrap code, partition table, and boot signature. The reason for the 1MB reservation is to ensure that any partitions created will fall on 4096 byte sector boundaries of Advanced Format drives, i.e. 4096B native sectors with 512B physical sectors presented to the OS. This prevents the drive from being required to read two 4KB sectors instead of one, which occurs with improper partition alignment, causing serious performance degradation. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f43c0.3020...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?
man, 10 09 2012 kl. 21:02 +0200, skrev tv.deb...@googlemail.com: Hi, UEFI isn't (normally) a problem, it's the hype around the secure boot feature that gives free operating systems users the chills. I know, but I'm not quite sure exactly what kind of problems I might run into using an UEFI-motherboard. Look into the specs, but I guess many manufacturers will keep around a bios mode for sometimes. I think I'll give it a try then. Anyway, as long as Secure Boot isn't enforced or can be deactivated by the user (which should be the norm), UEFI isn't supposed to be a show-stopper by itself. OK. Thanks. -- Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk ICQ:276707843 www.tomtech.dk If a person belives he is a monkey, it is called insanity. If a billion persons belive they are monkies, it is called darwinism. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347372026.2253.4.camel@TomTech
Re: Storage server
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 08:34 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 9/10/2012 10:41 AM, Veljko wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I'm not able to find that card here (and I haven't so far), can I have another one? That's hard to believe given the worldwide penetration Adaptec has, and the fact UPS/FedEx ship worldwide. What country are you in? I'm in Serbia. I tried several web sites of more known dealers, but it's possible that they don't have everything listed there on their web sites. If my boss approve buying RAID card, I'll call them to see if they have it or if they can order one. Try German suppliers. Surely they'd have it. The cheapest, but anyway reliable German retailer for all kinds of electronic gear: http://www.reichelt.de/index.html?;ACTION=103;LA=2;MANUFACTURER=adaptec;SID=12UE9B@H8AAAIAAEcGSWU702e805c66e3a1b7cce75cd098027793 Perhaps you'll have good luck and find what you need. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347372256.2252.13.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: Storage server
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 16:04 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 08:34 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 9/10/2012 10:41 AM, Veljko wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I'm not able to find that card here (and I haven't so far), can I have another one? That's hard to believe given the worldwide penetration Adaptec has, and the fact UPS/FedEx ship worldwide. What country are you in? I'm in Serbia. I tried several web sites of more known dealers, but it's possible that they don't have everything listed there on their web sites. If my boss approve buying RAID card, I'll call them to see if they have it or if they can order one. Try German suppliers. Surely they'd have it. The cheapest, but anyway reliable German retailer for all kinds of electronic gear: http://www.reichelt.de/index.html?;ACTION=103;LA=2;MANUFACTURER=adaptec;SID=12UE9B@H8AAAIAAEcGSWU702e805c66e3a1b7cce75cd098027793 Perhaps you'll have good luck and find what you need. PS: Regarding to computer gear there are less expensive German retailers and perhaps many of them are reliable too. However, in case of doubt I would choose Reichelt. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347372701.2252.17.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: [OT] web hosting server files
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 07:42:50PM +0800, lina wrote: On Tuesday 11,September,2012 06:35 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 06:25:14PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, I put some files on the hosting server, those files can be viewed via the explicit url, such as web.xxx.com/~lina/some_file.html There are no any link built from homepage. I wonder if someone else, without knowing the explicit name, whether can they get or not? I tried wget -c web.xxx.com/~lina/* not work. Try just http://web.xxx.com/~lina/ Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~lina/ on this server. Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at www.xxx.edu Port 80 That's good news. By the way, I shan't make any judgements on your hosting provider looking like a porn site :) I gave my words, it's a very decent website. Just let me keep some privacy. The xxx is something I used to substitute something else. Ah, I see. In future, I'd recommend sticking with the preferred documentation host example.com. That's explicitly defined as a host to be used for demonstration/documentation purposes (as are example.net, example.org and so on). If you visit http://example,com, you'll see a nice message stating that the host is for example purposes. If you visit http://www.xxx.com... I suspect the message might not be so polite :) My point is, it's fine to not use your real website, but if you use xxx.com it's not immediately obvious that that's a substitution. If you use example.com, it's rather more clear what's going on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911141755.gc17...@darac.org.uk
Re: Installation
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:54:12 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: (...) This is usually a delusion: is not that windows or linux is more or less easy (now or then) but how many people in your circle can solve/cope a problem with your system. Nobody --- and that probably isn't going to change. For Windows, yes, it's plenty of people. No, there aren't. In my planet, yes. Everybody I know uses Windows (starting from my mother and ending with my company partners). Remember: Windows is a toy, MacOS is a dungeon and Linux is an attitude. What's your point? My point is that one of the main obstacles for the Linux introduction into the mass market (i.e., consumers) is not difficulty but the lack of people who can help you when a problem arises. Today, most of the user-friendly Linux distributions you can find out there (Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, Debian...) are as easier to install and deal with as can be Windows or MacOS in the event they all have to be installed from scratch. So, if Linux is now accesible and easy for consumers, why still those low number for Linux desktops? Attitude. When a Windows user has a problem (an hey, because of my work, I'm tired of solving Windows problems) the user can easily find someone to fix it so he/she stays with Windows because the problem has gone. This is not happening when the user has Linux. Unless he/she shows a possitive attitude, the problem will stay forever because finding someone that knows about Linux is not that easy. There isn't anyone who could solve a problem they might have with windoze. Ask even an MSCE, and the only thing they say is I don't know. I'm a long time Windows user and there was only one time when I contacted MS official support which finally did not solve my issue and I had to figure out by myself. Microsoft users are one of their most valuable assets, meaning that you don't need to contact Microsoft in order to get a problem solved, the web is plenty of plain users that do their work :-) Now do the same but tell them you have a problem with Konqueror. They will close the door in our nose and say something like The guy on third floor is saying foolishness :-) They would ask what konqueror is and tell you to reboot or to re-install. That's not a significant difference. Ha! People can't even spell konqueror correctly, do you expect they will know what the hell is that? Did you read what I wrote? Yes, and I found it funny because most people don't even know that konqueror is a piece of software... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2nhfl$3ru$2...@ger.gmane.org
[OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:02:42 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Earlier I was complaining about Xsine not working with this new printer but the main problem seems to be that the printer doesn't see any of the computers on the hardwired network. (...) I already gave you some hints about this, did you try them? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2nhj9$3ru$3...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:28:34 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote: I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem. It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk) to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors. What kind of errors? I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to replace it. How did you reach to that conclusion? Maybe is simply a bad cabling or almost-death port :-? BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing and get a Debian install to work on it ? Do you have in mind a specific motherboard model? I don't think UEFI is now the only option available, most of the motherboard manufacturers (MSI, Gigabyte, Asus...) provide a dual boot manager (BIOS/UEFI) for compatibility issues. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2ni6m$3ru$4...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?
On 09/10/2012 08:28 PM, Tom Rausner wrote: Hi Folks. I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem. It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk) to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors. I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing and get a Debian install to work on it ? Hi I bought uefi motherboard 1 year ago. It works well with squeeze weezy and sid. UEFI changes nothing. Greetings -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f4d56.2040...@gmail.com
Re: defoma and its font path
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:37:36 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:59:11 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: TrueType fonts can be simply copied/pasted into one of the available font path folders and that should be all. It isn't that simple. It is for the majority of applications. It seems very likely that in the majority of applications, nowadays tft monitors are being used. Sorry, I don't see the relation between TTF and TFT other that both terms use the same letters but in different order :-) With what you can get from dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config, the fonts don't look too great and they look really awful in emacs-frames. (...) This can be a corner case that needs from manual intervention. Just google for it and you'll find that many ppl have that problem. (...) Still a corner case because it only affects users using the same application: the problem scope is limited ;-) For instance, I also had to create a ~/.fonts.conf so Firefox does a proper font replacement but this kind of tweaks are not the norm and TrueType fonts are detected by the system and applications without a hitch. And they look like crap on a tft. I don't know where do you want to go but we were talking about TrueType fonts, not how fonts render in TTF screens (and mines renders crystal clear and perfect). You can open a new thread so we can continue this conversation there but let's no hijack this one. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2niol$3ru$5...@ger.gmane.org
Re: ntpd crashes.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:54:59 +0200, Mauro wrote: On 11 September 2012 10:58, Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote: Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best solution is uninstall ntp and use ntpdate with cron. Not a particularly good solution for a number of reasons. Mainly, though, you need to be aware that ntpdate is quite likely to jump the clock. If ntp stops running with apparently no reasons I don't know what else I can do. I need to have time synchronized between my servers. You can try a different approach: do not run ntpd as daemon but using cron and see how it goes :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2nj0m$3ru$6...@ger.gmane.org
Re: ntpd crashes.
On 11 September 2012 16:48, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:54:59 +0200, Mauro wrote: On 11 September 2012 10:58, Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote: Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best solution is uninstall ntp and use ntpdate with cron. Not a particularly good solution for a number of reasons. Mainly, though, you need to be aware that ntpdate is quite likely to jump the clock. If ntp stops running with apparently no reasons I don't know what else I can do. I need to have time synchronized between my servers. You can try a different approach: do not run ntpd as daemon but using cron and see how it goes :-? What's the difference of running ntpdate instead ntp with cron? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAE17a0UAchE2ZQfMPgFp0vy5QTgoPjHs=q5_sfkzejszoar...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ntpd crashes.
On 11 September 2012 13:03, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 12:54 +0200, Mauro wrote: On 11 September 2012 10:58, Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote: Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best solution is uninstall ntp and use ntpdate with cron. Not a particularly good solution for a number of reasons. Mainly, though, you need to be aware that ntpdate is quite likely to jump the clock. If ntp stops running with apparently no reasons I don't know what else I can do. I need to have time synchronized between my servers. I'm a ntpdate and sntp user. I never had issues using ntpdate and sntp manually. sntp is in debian packages? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cae17a0va4o88rusg2vecbxdcfve34huttmjuv2pfrlv4hjp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Adding entry to /dev
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:04:37 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: How do I add a new entry to /dev; eg, /dev/sdb? What do you want to do and why? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2njh9$3ru$7...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Installation
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:01:35 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:26:15PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 10 sep 12, 14:06:07, Camaleón wrote: disk (well, buy enclosed in quotes because a high percent of Windows users do not pay a cent for their OS, you know...). An Microsoft has no real incentive to force them to, because people would just look for alternatives. Its almost impossible to get it going if you don't have that dammned product number. The web is full of methods and cracks for overcoming that requirement. That alone, should be enough to push people to Linux. :) That (sadly) never works because it requires a motivated user. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2njn8$3ru$8...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] web hosting server files
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:25:14 +0800, lina wrote: I put some files on the hosting server, those files can be viewed via the explicit url, such as web.xxx.com/~lina/some_file.html There are no any link built from homepage. I wonder if someone else, without knowing the explicit name, whether can they get or not? I tried wget -c web.xxx.com/~lina/* not work. is it safe? No, is not safe but security through obscurity so it's a matter of time that someone can access to the resource. I would password protect the file/folder. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2nk7q$3ru$9...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?
Hi. tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 16:40 +0200, skrev maderios: Hi I bought uefi motherboard 1 year ago. It works well with squeeze weezy and sid. UEFI changes nothing. Thanks for the help. I'm buying an UEFI-board. Just wanted to be sure I wouldn't get any bad surprises. -- Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk ICQ:276707843 www.tomtech.dk If a person belives he is a monkey, it is called insanity. If a billion persons belive they are monkies, it is called darwinism. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347376604.2253.7.camel@TomTech
Re: Not working ServiceMenus .desktop files in krusader 2.2.0
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:25:45 +0300, Станислав Буценко wrote: Im copy *.desktop files in /home/user/.kde/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus Context menu no display in krusader. Debian 6.0.5, Krusader 2.2.0 How does the .desktop file content looks like? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2nkj6$3ru$1...@ger.gmane.org
