Re: clavier azerty en tty

2012-10-11 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour,

Le mercredi 10 octobre 2012 à 19:42, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
 XKBVARIANT=oss_latin9

Chez moi j'ai « oss ».

Seb

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Re: clavier azerty en tty

2012-10-11 Thread D. Barbier
Le 10 octobre 2012 19:42, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
 Le Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:23:57 +0200,
 D. Barbier bou...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Le 10 octobre 2012 16:43, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
  Le Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:36:01 +0200,
  François francois.le@free.fr a écrit :
 
  Le 09/10/2012 17:05, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
   bonjour,
  
   j'emploie kbd et je n'arrive pas à trouver ceci ! en TTY
   j'ai cela à la place =
  
 
  dpkg-reconfigure console-data
 
  Peut-être aussi :
  dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
 
 
  bonjour,
 
  toujours pas de résultat probant

 Bonjour,

 Tu as quoi dans /etc/default/keyboard ?
 Est-ce que le paquet console-setup est installé ?

 Denis

 bonjour,

 le paquet console-setup est installé
 voici ce que donne /etc/default/keyboard:

 # KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE

 # Consult the keyboard(5) manual page.

 XKBMODEL=pc105
 XKBLAYOUT=fr
 XKBVARIANT=oss_latin9
 XKBOPTIONS=

 BACKSPACE=guess

Je ne vois rien de bizarre.
Normalement, tu exécutes la commande showkey, tu appuies sur la touche
qui t'intéresse, et tu récupères le keycode correspondant (53).
Ensuite, tu regardes dans les fichiers
/etc/console-setup/cached*.kmap.gz à quoi correspond ce keycode. Tu
t'attends à trouver 0x21 (! en ascii).
Soit c'est la valeur qui s'y trouve effectivement, et alors quelque
chose modifie ta configuration de clavier après que cette carte est
chargée, soit il y a une autre valeur, ce qui signifie que ce n'est
pas la bonne carte.

Denis

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Création Widget Gnome

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas Froidure

Bonjour à tous,

Je souhaiterai créer un petit Widget Gnome pour mon usage 
personnel. Il permettrait de tracer mon activité en choisissant le type 
d'activité que je fais et possédant un bouton Play/Pause. L'idée est de 
tracker mon temps de travail avec grande précision. Le tout serait 
enregistré en base via des appels Rest.


Je me dis que le mieux serait de faire un Widget pour Gnome, 
seulement, j'ai aucune idée de l'endroit où je peux trouver des infos 
pour déjà faire un simple Hello World. Avez-vous déjà réalisé un Widget 
et si oui, où puis-je trouver des infos, est-ce très compliqué ou assez 
accessible pour quelqu'un qui connaît un peu c/C++ mais ne travaille pas 
avec au quotidien ?


D'avance merci.

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Gestion d'un repository support d'apt-mirror [was Re: Apt-mirror et Le fichier « Release » a expiré]

2012-10-11 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Comme ce sujet intéresse apparemment d'autres personnes et que j'ai
beaucoup de mal à trouver du support sur l'outil apt-mirror, je
retente ma chance ;-)

Concernant ma question précédente (Le fichier « Release » a expiré),
je n'ai toujours pas de réponse. J'ai essayé d'écrire aux mainteneurs du
paquet sans succès. Est-ce que, par hasard, vous savez à qui je
pourrais m'adresser ?

Ensuite, sur mon repository local, j'ai de nouveaux besoins qui
arrivent. Ainsi, je souhaiterais mettre à disposition des packages
Debian internes. Pour cela, j'aurais besoin que ces paquets soient
visibles à partir des serveurs (via apt-cache search, apt-get install,
etc...). Je suppose donc qu'il faudrait que les fichiers
Contents-amd64.gz, Release, Release.gpg, etc... intègrent les bonnes
informations. Savez-vous comment je dois procéder ?

Merci d'avance.

David.

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Création Widget Gnome

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas Froidure

Bonjour à tous,

Je souhaiterai créer un petit Widget Gnome pour mon usage 
personnel. Il permettrait de tracer mon activité en choisissant le type 
d'activité que je fais et possédant un bouton Play/Pause. L'idée est de 
tracker mon temps de travail avec grande précision. Le tout serait 
enregistré en base via des appels Rest.


Je me dis que le mieux serait de faire un Widget pour Gnome, 
seulement, j'ai aucune idée de l'endroit où je peux trouver des infos 
pour déjà faire un simple Hello World. Avez-vous déjà réalisé un Widget 
et si oui, où puis-je trouver des infos, est-ce très compliqué ou assez 
accessible pour quelqu'un qui connaît un peu c/C++ mais ne travaille pas 
avec au quotidien ?


D'avance merci.
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Re: Gestion d'un repository support d'apt-mirror [was Re: Apt-mirror et Le fichier « Release » a expiré]

2012-10-11 Thread David BERCOT
Le Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:51:30 +0200,
David BERCOT deb...@bercot.org a écrit :
Bonjour,

Comme ce sujet intéresse apparemment d'autres personnes et que j'ai
beaucoup de mal à trouver du support sur l'outil apt-mirror, je
retente ma chance ;-)

Concernant ma question précédente (Le fichier « Release » a expiré),
je n'ai toujours pas de réponse. J'ai essayé d'écrire aux mainteneurs
du paquet sans succès. Est-ce que, par hasard, vous savez à qui je
pourrais m'adresser ?

Ensuite, sur mon repository local, j'ai de nouveaux besoins qui
arrivent. Ainsi, je souhaiterais mettre à disposition des packages
Debian internes. Pour cela, j'aurais besoin que ces paquets soient
visibles à partir des serveurs (via apt-cache search, apt-get
install, etc...). Je suppose donc qu'il faudrait que les fichiers
Contents-amd64.gz, Release, Release.gpg, etc... intègrent les bonnes
informations. Savez-vous comment je dois procéder ?

J'ai oublié un petit détail... J'ai trouvé l'outil reprepro (qui
semblerait être une possibilité) mais je n'ai pas osé le lancer sur
mon repository. Si vous l'avez déjà utilisé...

Merci d'avance.

David.

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Re: clavier azerty en tty

2012-10-11 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:51:37 +0200,
Sébastien NOBILI sebnewslet...@free.fr a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 
 Le mercredi 10 octobre 2012 à 19:42, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
  XKBVARIANT=oss_latin9
 
 Chez moi j'ai « oss ».
 
 Seb
 
bonjour,

en employant juste la valeur oss tout est rentré dans l'ordre ...

merci

slt
bernard

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Re: Apt-mirror et Le fichier « Release » a expiré

2012-10-11 Thread Jérôme
Le lundi 17 septembre 2012 à 15:39 +0200, David BERCOT a écrit :
 Je sais que je peux passer outre en mettant l'option
 Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false mais je préférerais que le
 repository n'indique pas cette erreur, sous-entendu que sa date
 d'expiration soit modifiée. Savez-vous s'il est possible de faire
 ça ? 

Je ne connais pas le truc, mais d'une part ça me parait très logique, il
est absolument critique de garder la cohérence des version, d'autre part
au vu du nom du paramètre, je suppose qu'on peut changer la valeur.


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Re: Création Widget Gnome

2012-10-11 Thread Jérôme
Le jeudi 11 octobre 2012 à 09:42 +0200, Nicolas Froidure a écrit :
 j'ai aucune idée de l'endroit où je peux trouver des infos 
 pour déjà faire un simple Hello World. 

Comme il existe déjà au moins une extension dans ce genre sur
http://extensions.gnome.org , tu devrais récupérer le code pour voir
comment c'est fait. (j'ai oublié lesquelles, mais il me semble qu'il y
en a une qui monitore les applications ouvertes et il doit y en avoir
une ou deux qui interfacent un gestionnaire de temps externe)



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Re: Gestion d'un repository support d'apt-mirror [was Re: Apt-mirror et Le fichier « Release » a expiré]

2012-10-11 Thread Jean-Jacques Doti

Salut,

Le 11/10/2012 09:51, David BERCOT a écrit :

Bonjour,

Comme ce sujet intéresse apparemment d'autres personnes et que j'ai
beaucoup de mal à trouver du support sur l'outil apt-mirror, je
retente ma chance ;-)

Concernant ma question précédente (Le fichier « Release » a expiré),
je n'ai toujours pas de réponse. J'ai essayé d'écrire aux mainteneurs du
paquet sans succès. Est-ce que, par hasard, vous savez à qui je
pourrais m'adresser ?
Dans chaque répertoire dists créé par apt-mirror (ou plutôt dans le 
sous répertoire de la distribution, par exemple 
.../ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy), il y a un fichier Release 
qui contient une donnée Valid-Until:. Je pense que ton problème 
survient lorsque la date indiquée est dépassée. J'ai tout de même peur 
que si tu modifie cette date, la signature contenue dans le fichier 
Release.gpg ne soit plus valide. Tu as donc, il me semble, deux 
solutions : soit tu ne vérifies pas la date, soit tu ne vérifies pas la 
signature (ou alors tu ressignes avec une clé t'appartenant, mais tu 
devras aussi distribuer le certificat).



Ensuite, sur mon repository local, j'ai de nouveaux besoins qui
arrivent. Ainsi, je souhaiterais mettre à disposition des packages
Debian internes. Pour cela, j'aurais besoin que ces paquets soient
visibles à partir des serveurs (via apt-cache search, apt-get install,
etc...). Je suppose donc qu'il faudrait que les fichiers
Contents-amd64.gz, Release, Release.gpg, etc... intègrent les bonnes
informations. Savez-vous comment je dois procéder ?
Il me semble que pour cela, l'idéal serait que tu créés ton propre 
dépôt, en plus des dépôts officiels que tu répliques. Ça t'obligera tout 
de même à ajouter ce dépôt sur les machines en ayant besoin (fichier à 
ajouter dans  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/).
Pour faire les choses proprement, il faudrait aussi que tu signes les 
fichiers de ton dépôt ou que tu ne vérifie pas les signatures (ajout de 
l'option trusted=yes [cf man sources.list]) pour ce dépôt.




Merci d'avance.

De rien. J'espère que cela te sera utile.


David.


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Re: Apt-mirror et Le fichier « Release » a expiré

2012-10-11 Thread Alexandre Cartier
Oubli de la liste :/

Le 11 octobre 2012 11:17, Alexandre Cartier fiyor...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Pour les problème de langue : il faut ajouter ceci au postmirror.sh pour
 squeeze et wheezy

 rsync --recursive --times --links --hard-links --delete --delete-after
 rsync://debian.med.univ-tours.fr/debian/dists/squeeze/main/i18n//var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/
 ftp.be.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/i18n/

 rsync --recursive --times --links --hard-links --delete --delete-after
 rsync://debian.med.univ-tours.fr/debian/dists/wheezy/main/i18n//var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/
 ftp.be.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/i18n/

 rsync --recursive --times --links --hard-links --delete --delete-after
 rsync://debian.med.univ-tours.fr/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/i18n//var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/
 ftp.be.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/i18n/

 rsync --recursive --times --links --hard-links --delete --delete-after
 rsync://debian.med.univ-tours.fr/debian/dists/wheezy/non-free/i18n//var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/
 ftp.be.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/non-free/i18n/

 pour ton autre problème a tu déjà lancer le script clean.sh pour nettoyer
 tes vieux fichiers?


 Le 11 octobre 2012 10:11, Jérôme jer...@aranha.fr a écrit :

 Le lundi 17 septembre 2012 à 15:39 +0200, David BERCOT a écrit :
  Je sais que je peux passer outre en mettant l'option
  Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false mais je préférerais que le
  repository n'indique pas cette erreur, sous-entendu que sa date
  d'expiration soit modifiée. Savez-vous s'il est possible de faire
  ça ?

 Je ne connais pas le truc, mais d'une part ça me parait très logique, il
 est absolument critique de garder la cohérence des version, d'autre part
 au vu du nom du paramètre, je suppose qu'on peut changer la valeur.


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Re: Création Widget Gnome

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas Froidure

Bonjour,

La bonne nouvelle, c'est qu'on dirait que c'est du Js et que je 
maîtrise, la mauvaise nouvelle, c'est que ce site nécessite Gnome 3 et 
comme je suis sur une release Stable, j'ai Gnome 2.30.2 : 
https://extensions.gnome.org/about/


L'extension dont tu parlais est : https://github.com/jcrussell/Arya

Je me vois difficilement sortir de la release juste pour ça. Gnome 
2.3 n'a pas de mécanisme d'extension par hasard ?


Bonne journée.

On 11/10/2012 10:05, Jérôme wrote:

Le jeudi 11 octobre 2012 à 09:42 +0200, Nicolas Froidure a écrit :


j'ai aucune idée de l'endroit où je peux trouver des infos
pour déjà faire un simple Hello World.


Comme il existe déjà au moins une extension dans ce genre sur
http://extensions.gnome.org , tu devrais récupérer le code pour voir
comment c'est fait. (j'ai oublié lesquelles, mais il me semble qu'il y
en a une qui monitore les applications ouvertes et il doit y en avoir
une ou deux qui interfacent un gestionnaire de temps externe)






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Re: Création Widget Gnome

2012-10-11 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:21:33 +0200,
Nicolas Froidure froidure_nico...@yahoo.fr a écrit :

  Bonjour,
 
  La bonne nouvelle, c'est qu'on dirait que c'est du Js et que je 
 maîtrise, la mauvaise nouvelle, c'est que ce site nécessite Gnome 3
 et comme je suis sur une release Stable, j'ai Gnome 2.30.2 : 
 https://extensions.gnome.org/about/
 
  L'extension dont tu parlais est :
 https://github.com/jcrussell/Arya
 
  Je me vois difficilement sortir de la release juste pour ça.
 Gnome 2.3 n'a pas de mécanisme d'extension par hasard ?
 
  Bonne journée.

bonjour,

en gestion de projet et de temps, il est possible de le trouver
avec Emacs : org-mode

 - keep notes, maintain ToDo lists, and do project planning in emacs

 il est possible d'en trouver d'autres à base de gantt

 ma recherche à partir de mots clefs :

 apt-cache search planning |grep project
calligraplan - integrated project management and planning tool
org-mode - keep notes, maintain ToDo lists, and do project planning in emacs
tryton-modules-project-plan - Tryton Application Platform (Project Plan Module)
kplato-trinity - an integrated project management and planning tool [Trinity]
kteatime-trinity - KDE3 utility for making a fine cup of tea


 si cela ne convient pas alors tant pis ...

 après il suffira de générer l'icône start/stop

 slt
 bernard

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Re: Acceder a mi Linux desde windows

2012-10-11 Thread Debian GMail

El 10/10/12 12:36, Cristian Prado escribió:

Hola a todos
Tengo que acceder (Remote Desk) al linux de casa con la compu
del trabajo (windows 7) que programa me recomiendan ?
Lei que se puede hacer con VNC pero tengo entendido
que no es muy seguro.
Gracias por las respuestas




Por experiencia:

Si es para acceso consola y ejecución remota de programas:
GNU/Linux: openssh-server bien configurado.
WinX: cualquier cliente telnet.

Si es para acceder a archivos sin necesidad de ejecutar en forma remota 
programas:

GNU/Linux: openssh-server bien configurado.
WinX: algún gestor de archivos de doble pantalla como Double Commander o 
WinSCP.


Si es para todo por GUI:
Ambos: NX Nomachine http://www.nomachine.com/

O las tres cosas juntas.

Nota: bien configurado significa leer el manual de openssh-server y 
usar la tonelada de cosas que tiene para encriptar, comprimir datos y 
enmascarar puertos.


JAP


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Re: como inclinar mi pantalla.

2012-10-11 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El mié, 10-10-2012 a las 14:07 -0700, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta
escribió: 
 hola listeros debianeros.
 
 
 
 jugando con las teclas en windows me di cuenta que con ALTGR + alguna
 flecha. la pantalla se inclina en 90 grados a la izquierda o derecha.
 inclusive se puede rotar la imagen de pantalla 180 grados. en este
 caso el mouse funcionaria al reves.
 
 
 pues bien, ya con esa introducción quisiera saber si alguien tiene
 experiencia exitosa logrando rotar no solo de forma lógica sino
 tambien física.
 
 
 hay algunos monitores que tienen la opcion de empotrado, tienen unos
 agujeritos para el rack. y uno elige si lo pone en forma vertical u
 horizontal.
 
 
 esto de la pantalla vertical es una ventaja.
 
 
 en todos los portales. se necesita correr hacia abajo la pantalla
 muchas veces. el que el monitor este inclinado representaria más
 contenido visual en forma vertical y una persepción más agradable. la
 que tienen los libros, las revistas, los periodicos etc.
 
 
 para leer correos eso seria un gran avance porque se podria leer un
 correo extenso sin necesidad de darle para abajo con el scroll del
 mouse.
 
 
 y ya se podran imaginar la inmensa ventaja que esto representaria para
 el uso de la terminal. los manuales estarian explicados en forma más
 compacta y en teoria en la pantalla entraria 60 por ciento más
 contenido. debido a que poseeria casi el doble de lineas.
 
 
 tengo el caso de mi vecino que usa dos pantallas. eso es posible y no
 es una novedad.
 
 
 lo ideal sería. una pantalla horizontal para ver peliculas de alta
 definición y la otra pantalla para usar la terminal. ambas empotradas
 en la pared frente al escritorio de cada uno.
 
 
 espero que mi idea no les parezca tan extrafalaria o chiflada.
No es tan estrafalaria, man xrandr tiene la respuesta ;-)

Creo que había un cosito gráfico para jugar con esto (front-end, que le
llaman)... pero como a mi me gustan las pantallas en 4:3 la verdad es
que nunca lo investigué...

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Re: Acceder a mi Linux desde windows

2012-10-11 Thread Maykel Franco Hernández

El 2012-10-11 13:50, Debian GMail escribió:

El 10/10/12 12:36, Cristian Prado escribió:

Hola a todos
Tengo que acceder (Remote Desk) al linux de casa con la compu
del trabajo (windows 7) que programa me recomiendan ?
Lei que se puede hacer con VNC pero tengo entendido
que no es muy seguro.
Gracias por las respuestas




Por experiencia:

Si es para acceso consola y ejecución remota de programas:
GNU/Linux: openssh-server bien configurado.
WinX: cualquier cliente telnet.

Si es para acceder a archivos sin necesidad de ejecutar en forma
remota programas:
GNU/Linux: openssh-server bien configurado.
WinX: algún gestor de archivos de doble pantalla como Double 
Commander o WinSCP.


Si es para todo por GUI:
Ambos: NX Nomachine http://www.nomachine.com/

O las tres cosas juntas.

Nota: bien configurado significa leer el manual de openssh-server y
usar la tonelada de cosas que tiene para encriptar, comprimir datos y
enmascarar puertos.

JAP



Estoy de acuerdo, ni vnc ni leches, si es entorno gráfico freenx de 
nomachine es tu software...



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Correos en cadena en postfix

2012-10-11 Thread cosme
Hola listeros

Como puedo quitarme un poco el rollo de los mensajes en cadenasen postfix,

hay usuarios que envían correos hasta de 10 usuarios a la vez o mas

como puedo restringir esto por ejemplo a 4 correos.

**

Crear cuenta every...@dominio.com

Como puedo definir una cuenta every...@dominio.com que solo esta puede
mandar correos a todos las cuentas de mi dominio.

Salu2







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Re: Correos en cadena en postfix

2012-10-11 Thread Josué Marrero Bermúdez

revisa en gutl.jovenclub.cu


- Original Message - 
From: co...@esid.gecgr.co.cu

To: Josué Marrero Bermúdez i...@zetihl.azcuba.cu
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Correos en cadena en postfix



Estas con la idea del Mdaemon ..

prueba crear una lista de correo con mailman..subcribes las cuentas que
quieras que reciban esos mensajes y declaras una como moderador..supongo
la
tuya.


- Original Message -
From: co...@esid.gecgr.co.cu
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: Correos en cadena en postfix



Hola listeros

Como puedo quitarme un poco el rollo de los mensajes en cadenasen
postfix,

hay usuarios que envían correos hasta de 10 usuarios a la vez o mas

como puedo restringir esto por ejemplo a 4 correos.

**

Crear cuenta every...@dominio.com

Como puedo definir una cuenta every...@dominio.com que solo esta puede
mandar correos a todos las cuentas de mi dominio.

Salu2







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Puedes ponerme un ejemplo como hacer esto??/









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Re: ¿como hago para enclavar una ventana?

2012-10-11 Thread Carlos Zuniga
Me llego al privado, reenviando...

2012/10/11 Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta cespedes.zuleta.vic...@gmail.com:
 uso el navegador de ventanas nautilius.

 el manejador de ventanas. dentro de preferences y windows no me da la
 opcion de quitar los tres botones del título de la ventana.

 screen es un multiplexador de ventanas (o solo de terminales) con un
 manual de mas de 1000 lineas, es demasiado para leer.

 mi proposito es lograr realizar un torneo informático de ajedrez en 
 simultaneo.

 es decir que mi PC juegue con el motor GNUCHESS contra unas cincuenta 
 personas.

 la interfaz de gnuchess es a traves de la terminal de forma nativa.

 el torneo se realizara de la siguiente manera.

 todos dictan su jugada en orden. luego el computador responde
 inmediatamente a cada jugada. en orden ascendente. de la mesa uno a la
 50.

 y para no estar cambiando de terminales. seria bueno screen (como
 multiplexador) o por lo menos que las terminales no se cierren por
 descuido perdiendo la sesión.

 no pude invesitgar sobre tilda o quake. disculpa.



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Re: ¿como hago para enclavar una ventana?

2012-10-11 Thread Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta
uso el navegador de ventanas nautilius.

el manejador de ventanas. dentro de preferences y windows no me da la
opcion de quitar los tres botones del título de la ventana.

screen es un multiplexador de ventanas (o solo de terminales) con un
manual de mas de 1000 lineas, es demasiado para leer.

mi proposito es lograr realizar un torneo informático de ajedrez en simultaneo.

es decir que mi PC juegue con el motor GNUCHESS contra unas cincuenta personas.

la interfaz de gnuchess es a traves de la terminal de forma nativa.

el torneo se realizara de la siguiente manera.

todos dictan su jugada en orden. luego el computador responde
inmediatamente a cada jugada. en orden ascendente. de la mesa uno a la
50.

y para no estar cambiando de terminales. seria bueno screen (como
multiplexador) o por lo menos que las terminales no se cierren por
descuido perdiendo la sesión.

no pude invesitgar sobre tilda o quake. disculpa.


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Proxy-SNMP

2012-10-11 Thread Walter Reverdito
Gente,

estoy tratando de configurarme un proxy-snmp, en si tengo dos servidores
con debian squeeze (un sparc y un 686), el primero tiene acceso a las redes
para hacer las consultas SNMP y el segundo esta filtrado, por lo cual
necesitaria utilizar el primero como puente para hacer las consultas...
estuve viendo que el squid lo podria hacer, pero no vi ninguna
documentacion completa. Alguien lo hizo? o lo sabe?. Dije Squid, pero
podria otro paquete..

desde ya muchas gracias


como hago para quemar un disco DVD desde consola.

2012-10-11 Thread Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta
me podrian ayudar a usar cdrdao para quemar una imagen iso.

esto se los pido debido a que no puedo instalar k3b por problemas con
sus dependencias.


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Re: como hago para quemar un disco DVD desde consola.

2012-10-11 Thread nicopixel
Hola Victor Hugo,

2012/10/11 Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta cespedes.zuleta.vic...@gmail.com

 me podrian ayudar a usar cdrdao para quemar una imagen iso.

 esto se los pido debido a que no puedo instalar k3b por problemas con
 sus dependencias.


0- Instala cdrecorder

 # aptitude install cdrecorder

1- Averigua cual es tu dispositivo de grabacion:

 # wodim  --devices

2- Crea una ISO con el contenido de lo que queramos grabar

 # /usr/bin/genisoimage -l -R -J -o miISO.iso /etc

3- Graba:

 # /usr/bin/wodim -v -eject dev=/dev/scd0 miISO.iso


Saludos,
Nico





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Systemd

2012-10-11 Thread Javier San Román
 Por enredar un poco, ando mirando la posibilidad de poner un híbrido System 
V/Systemd con miras de, según como vaya, volver a System V o pasar a Systemd 
completo. Y antes de hacer nada me gustaría saber vuestras opiniones al 
respecto, sobre el Systemd en concreto. Gracias.

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¿como hago para quitarle la voz de los cantantes a las pistas de audio?

2012-10-11 Thread Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta
quisiera crear música de karaoke y para eso pregunto

¿como hago para quitarle la voz de los cantantes a las pistas de audio?


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Re: ¿como hago para quitarle la voz de los cantantes a las pistas de audio?

2012-10-11 Thread Edwin Carrillo
Pues tapandoles la boca es mas facil. Aaa por cierto llego a una lista
de Debian o me parece
El 11/10/2012 13:28, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta 
cespedes.zuleta.vic...@gmail.com escribió:

 quisiera crear música de karaoke y para eso pregunto

 ¿como hago para quitarle la voz de los cantantes a las pistas de audio?


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Re: como hago para quemar un disco DVD desde consola.

2012-10-11 Thread alexis

El 11/10/12 13:14, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta escribió:

me podrian ayudar a usar cdrdao para quemar una imagen iso.

esto se los pido debido a que no puedo instalar k3b por problemas con
sus dependencias.



dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/usuario/disco.iso


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Re: ¿como hago para quitarle la voz de los cantantes a las pistas de audio?

2012-10-11 Thread Debian GMail

El 11/10/12 15:27, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta escribió:

quisiera crear música de karaoke y para eso pregunto

¿como hago para quitarle la voz de los cantantes a las pistas de audio?




Audacity (está en los repositorios oficiales), y mucha paciencia para 
borrar las frecuencias de audio de cada cantante.


http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacity

Luego de lograrlo, postularse con Horatio Caine como especialista en 
audio para CSI Miami.


Nah, chiste. Si mal no recuerdo, tiene un complemento que hace 
específicamente eso.



JAP.


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Re: como hago para quemar un disco DVD desde consola.

2012-10-11 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El jue, 11-10-2012 a las 14:12 -0430, alexis escribió: 
 El 11/10/12 13:14, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta escribió:
  me podrian ayudar a usar cdrdao para quemar una imagen iso.
 
  esto se los pido debido a que no puedo instalar k3b por problemas con
  sus dependencias.
 
 
 dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/usuario/disco.iso
 
 

pero eso para hacer la iso. El preguntó cuando ya tiene la iso hecha y
quiere pasarla a un disco


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Re: como hago para quemar un disco DVD desde consola.

2012-10-11 Thread Ratman
http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/1221322/Crear-imagenes-y-grabar-desde-consola.html

El 11 de octubre de 2012 17:54, Gonzalo Rivero
fishfromsa...@gmail.comescribió:

 El jue, 11-10-2012 a las 14:12 -0430, alexis escribió:
  El 11/10/12 13:14, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta escribió:
   me podrian ayudar a usar cdrdao para quemar una imagen iso.
  
   esto se los pido debido a que no puedo instalar k3b por problemas con
   sus dependencias.
  
  
  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/usuario/disco.iso
 
 

 pero eso para hacer la iso. El preguntó cuando ya tiene la iso hecha y
 quiere pasarla a un disco


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Re: como inclinar mi pantalla.

2012-10-11 Thread Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta
¿como hago para inclinar mi pantalla?
(de forma lógica) virtual. pantalla inclinada para luego inclinarla de
forma física.


Re: ¿como hago para enclavar una ventana?

2012-10-11 Thread Jorge A. Secreto
El día 11 de octubre de 2012 14:39, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta
cespedes.zuleta.vic...@gmail.com escribió:
 uso el navegador de ventanas nautilius.

 el manejador de ventanas. dentro de preferences y windows no me da la
 opcion de quitar los tres botones del título de la ventana.

 screen es un multiplexador de ventanas (o solo de terminales) con un
 manual de mas de 1000 lineas, es demasiado para leer.

Hu esto es justo lo que no tenías que decir 


 mi proposito es lograr realizar un torneo informático de ajedrez en 
 simultaneo.

 es decir que mi PC juegue con el motor GNUCHESS contra unas cincuenta 
 personas.

 la interfaz de gnuchess es a traves de la terminal de forma nativa.

 el torneo se realizara de la siguiente manera.

 todos dictan su jugada en orden. luego el computador responde
 inmediatamente a cada jugada. en orden ascendente. de la mesa uno a la
 50.

Pregunta:
¿querés abrir 50 terminales o vas a pasar las 50 jugadas en la misma terminal?
Si solo va a haber una terminal abierta, ctrl-alt-F1 al F6 te da lo
que necesitas.
Una ventana (mejor dicho 6) sin botón de cierre, ni minimizar, ni
nada. Texto puro y duro.
¿o necesitas las 50?
Se me ocurre que también se podría, pero no sé como invocarlas.
A lo mejor otro compañero te da la pista de como hacer eso.


 y para no estar cambiando de terminales. seria bueno screen (como
 multiplexador) o por lo menos que las terminales no se cierren por
 descuido perdiendo la sesión.

 no pude invesitgar sobre tilda o quake. disculpa.

Un abrazo

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Problema cargando pxelinux.0

2012-10-11 Thread Ruben Cervantes Rodríguez
Hola lista necesito ayuda bueno según tengo entendido en el sitio de
syslinux.org dicen que se puede cargar la configuración del pxelinux.cfg
que tengo en mi directorio raíz de mi Trivial TFTP, usando la mac de la
tarjeta o la dirección ip en hexadecimal pero esto no me funciona solo
funciona con el archivo default dentro de la carpeta pxelinux.cfg.
Necesito saber que tengo que hacer para que me funcione usando la mac o la
ip en hexadecimal según syslinux el fichero default debería funcionar en
cualquiera de estas carpetas o en la raíz:

   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/01-88-99-aa-bb-cc-dd
   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C25B
   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C25
   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C2
   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C
   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C000
   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C00
   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C0
   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C
   /mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/default

No se si es el TFTP que estoy usando le falta alguna opción o que dentro
de esas carpeticas hay que poner algo mas. Revisé mi syslog y me sale un
error que dice que no se encuentra el archivo o el directorio o que no
tengo acceso, espero por la ayuda de alguien que haya chocado con esto
gracias de antemano.

Lic. Ruben Cervantes Rodríguez
Instructor y administrador de red
JCCE Vtes1
Camagüey Cuba



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Re: como hago para quemar un disco DVD desde consola. (OT)

2012-10-11 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El jue, 11-10-2012 a las 19:04 -0200, Ratman escribió:
 http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/1221322/Crear-imagenes-y-grabar-desde-consola.html
 
ot: solo para decir que si estoy suscripto a la lista, no hace falta que
me manden una copia a mi propio correo.

muy oftopic: Además, si usan evolution (supongo que los otros clientes
*de verdad* (los webmail no son de verdad, outlook tampoco) también
podrán hacerlo) al responder un mail de esta lista les pregunta si al
privado o a la lista, lo que puede ser una buena motivación para
configurarse uno, tampoco es taan difícil

 El 11 de octubre de 2012 17:54, Gonzalo Rivero
 fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió:
 El jue, 11-10-2012 a las 14:12 -0430, alexis escribió: 
  El 11/10/12 13:14, Victor Hugo Cespedes Zuleta escribió:
   me podrian ayudar a usar cdrdao para quemar una imagen
 iso.
  
   esto se los pido debido a que no puedo instalar k3b por
 problemas con
   sus dependencias.
  
  
  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/usuario/disco.iso
 
 
 
 
 pero eso para hacer la iso. El preguntó cuando ya tiene la iso
 hecha y
 quiere pasarla a un disco 
 
 
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OT: Camaleon

2012-10-11 Thread Sergio Bessopeanetto

¿Alguien sabe algo de Camaleon?
Hace ya casi 3 semanas que no se la ve por acá.

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Re: OT: Camaleon

2012-10-11 Thread ghaspaer

El 12/10/12 04:30, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

¿Alguien sabe algo de Camaleon?
Hace ya casi 3 semanas que no se la ve por acá.


es verdad siempre es muy activo,... que raro?...


Re: Problema cargando pxelinux.0

2012-10-11 Thread Pablo Jiménez
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 09:15:07PM -0400, Ruben Cervantes Rodríguez wrote:
 Hola lista necesito ayuda bueno según tengo entendido en el sitio de
 syslinux.org dicen que se puede cargar la configuración del pxelinux.cfg
 que tengo en mi directorio raíz de mi Trivial TFTP, usando la mac de la
 tarjeta o la dirección ip en hexadecimal pero esto no me funciona solo
 funciona con el archivo default dentro de la carpeta pxelinux.cfg.
 Necesito saber que tengo que hacer para que me funcione usando la mac o la
 ip en hexadecimal según syslinux el fichero default debería funcionar en
 cualquiera de estas carpetas o en la raíz:
 
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/01-88-99-aa-bb-cc-dd
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C25B
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C25
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C2
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C000
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C00
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C0
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/C
/mybootdir/pxelinux.cfg/default
 
 No se si es el TFTP que estoy usando le falta alguna opción o que dentro
 de esas carpeticas hay que poner algo mas. Revisé mi syslog y me sale un
 error que dice que no se encuentra el archivo o el directorio o que no
 tengo acceso, espero por la ayuda de alguien que haya chocado con esto
 gracias de antemano.

Si puedes enviar el mensaje que ves en syslog, creo te podemos ayudar 
mejor.

Saludos.

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Re: OT: Programar en python

2012-10-11 Thread Carlos Carcamo
El 10 de octubre de 2012 11:50, Santiago López Denazis
sldena...@gmail.comescribió:

 El día 10 de octubre de 2012 14:04, Hector Garcia
 hectorogar...@gmail.com escribió:
  El día 9 de octubre de 2012 22:46, Carlos Carcamo eazyd...@gmail.com
 escribió:
  Saludos lista.
 
  Hace días que me he venido interesando por aprender python, ya conozco
 java,
  php, scala, y otros lenguajes, ahora quiero aprender python nada más por
  hoby,  pues veo que es muy usado en la comunidad open source, pero no
 se por
  donde empezar, me he bajado algunos libros sin leerlos aun pues no se
 cual
  es el indicado para mi...
 
  me pregunto si ustedes me pueden recomendar uno que me ayude a entender
 las
  bases de este lenguaje, pues he bajado unos y me doy cuenta que se
 centran
  en como programar y usan python para los ejemplos, pero no se centran
 en el
  lenguaje en si.
  Me gustaría saber si habrá un libro al estilo de como programar en
 java de
  deitel que se centra de lleno en las cualidades de java, o también al
  estilo de scala for impatient que igual se centra en las
 características
  del lenguaje scala.
 
  Otra razón por aprender python es porque en pocos días comienza el
 curso an
  introduction to interactive programming in python en coursera aunque
 ahí me
  darán algunas de las bases quiero tener un libro como referencia para
 seguir
  el curso.
 
  Cual libro me recomiendan?
 
  De antemano muchas gracias por sus respuestas.
 
 
  --
  El desarrollo no es material es un estado de conciencia metal
 
  Dive into Python. Es EL libro de referencia.
  Tambien está en español
  http://es.diveintopython.net/
 
  Saludos
 
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  El Pic no pudo Iniciar correctamente.
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Gracias a todos por responder, ya elegí un libro para comenzar con
python, Aprenda
a pensar como un programador con Python me decidí por este si bien es
una introducción a la programación creo que en general enseña las bases de
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Debian agarra ao tentar instalar.

2012-10-11 Thread Deivison Moraes
Pessoal, estou tentando instalar debian 6 em um servidor HP DL380. O cd 
boota normalmente e quando eu aperto enter em INSTALL  trava e não sai 
da tela inicial. Nem aparece nenhuma mensagem, troquei a midia várias 
vezes, baixei outra ISO. Mas nada faz passar dessa parte.


Alguem ja sofreu com isso?


Grato deste já!
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Favor não responder SPM, ERA Copacabana Temporada ... ou Longa

2012-10-11 Thread Gerson Haus
Prezado(a)s:

1. Eu desconheço as estatísticas, mas o fato é que estas mensagens estão 
incomodando mais do que antigamente, não sei se pelo aumento delas ou pelo 
aumento do número de RESPOSTAS a elas.

2. Quando alguém RESPONDE um spam mantendo o conteúdo, está AJUDANDO o spammer. 
No meu caso o anti-spam do Yahoo bloqueou a mensagem original, mas não bloqueou 
as respostas.

3. Entendo que a ideia da lista é ser livre e de fácil acesso. Porém os tempos 
mudaram e também sou a favor de que se crie algum mecanismo que dificulte estas 
mensagens, mesmo ao custo de um pouco e trabalho para enviar a primeira 
mensagem para a lista (não sei se é possível fazer uma votação entre os 
usuários para definir isso).
Mas, como não sei como colaborar com a implantação deste mecanismo, fico quieto 
no meu canto sem ficar exigindo que pessoas que trabalham voluntariamente façam 
proteções para meu e-mail.

4. Sim, é mais um desabafo: se não está satisfeito com os spams na lista, 
trabalhe voluntariamente para criar um mecanismo de evitá-las (eu sou a favor). 
Mas e, principalmente, por favor, não fiquem respondendo o lixo - e muito menos 
reincluindo o mesmo.

Att,
Gerson.
  
 
CAMPANHA ANTI SAPM
Se você for enviar esta mensagem para alguém, por favor:
1. Apague o MEU ENDEREÇO eletrônico e demais dados pessoais, assim como as 
listas de mails que estiverem contidas no corpo da mensagem;
2. Encaminhe como cco (Cópia oculta) aos seus destinatários;
3. Não respondam SPAM.
Essa é uma atitude de que preservará o endereço de todos, dificultando o 
trabalho spamers na internet.
Obrigado pela colaboração.



 De: Hélder Pinheiro pinheiro.helde...@gmail.com
Para: Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@gmail.com 
Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 10 de Outubro de 2012 14:00
Assunto: Re: Copacabana Temporada - Rio de Janeiro - Excelentes Apartamentos 
para Alugar por Temporada Curta ou Longa
 

Eu acho que sim. A mail list está com muito spam. Não há possibilidade de 
metermos moderação na mail list? Se não der, temos de começar a denúnciar como 
spam estes emails 
Cumprimentos, 
Hélder Pinheiro 



Re: Debian agarra ao tentar instalar.

2012-10-11 Thread Daniel Lenharo
Cara,

Aqui na empresa temos este servidor também. Para instalar, primeiro criei
as partições e raid pelo SmartCD da HP, ai consegui instalar o Squeeze.

p.s: a versão 6.0.3 e 6.0.4 esta me dando um erro de instalação (tanto no
servidor, quanto no desktop).

Em 11 de outubro de 2012 08:26, Deivison Moraes 
deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

 Pessoal, estou tentando instalar debian 6 em um servidor HP DL380. O cd
 boota normalmente e quando eu aperto enter em INSTALL  trava e não sai da
 tela inicial. Nem aparece nenhuma mensagem, troquei a midia várias vezes,
 baixei outra ISO. Mas nada faz passar dessa parte.

 Alguem ja sofreu com isso?


 Grato deste já!
 []'s

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Re: Debian agarra ao tentar instalar.

2012-10-11 Thread Deivison Moraes

O meu não passa nem da primeira tela de instalação!

On 11-10-2012 08:41, Daniel Lenharo wrote:

Cara,

Aqui na empresa temos este servidor também. Para instalar, primeiro 
criei as partições e raid pelo SmartCD da HP, ai consegui instalar o 
Squeeze.


p.s: a versão 6.0.3 e 6.0.4 esta me dando um erro de instalação (tanto 
no servidor, quanto no desktop).


Em 11 de outubro de 2012 08:26, Deivison Moraes 
deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br 
mailto:deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:


Pessoal, estou tentando instalar debian 6 em um servidor HP DL380.
O cd boota normalmente e quando eu aperto enter em INSTALL  trava
e não sai da tela inicial. Nem aparece nenhuma mensagem, troquei a
midia várias vezes, baixei outra ISO. Mas nada faz passar dessa parte.

Alguem ja sofreu com isso?


Grato deste já!
[]'s

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Re: Debian agarra ao tentar instalar.

2012-10-11 Thread Daniel Lenharo
entra no TTY4 (CTRL+ALT+F4) e veja em que passo que ele trava.

Ai é possível ter uma ideia melhor.

Em 11 de outubro de 2012 09:09, Gabriel Ricardo gricard...@gmail.comescreveu:

 já verificou pela tecla num lock se ele trava o servidor inteiro?



 Atenciosamente,
 *Gabriel Ricardo.*
 www.tinotapa.com.br



 Em 11 de outubro de 2012 09:00, Deivison Moraes 
 deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

  O meu não passa nem da primeira tela de instalação!


 On 11-10-2012 08:41, Daniel Lenharo wrote:

 Cara,

  Aqui na empresa temos este servidor também. Para instalar, primeiro
 criei as partições e raid pelo SmartCD da HP, ai consegui instalar o
 Squeeze.

  p.s: a versão 6.0.3 e 6.0.4 esta me dando um erro de instalação (tanto
 no servidor, quanto no desktop).

 Em 11 de outubro de 2012 08:26, Deivison Moraes 
 deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

 Pessoal, estou tentando instalar debian 6 em um servidor HP DL380. O cd
 boota normalmente e quando eu aperto enter em INSTALL  trava e não sai da
 tela inicial. Nem aparece nenhuma mensagem, troquei a midia várias vezes,
 baixei outra ISO. Mas nada faz passar dessa parte.

 Alguem ja sofreu com isso?


 Grato deste já!
 []'s

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Re: Debian agarra ao tentar instalar.

2012-10-11 Thread Deivison Moraes

Vou fazer um teste com 32!

On 11-10-2012 09:11, FHRB Toledo wrote:

Por acaso você não está baixando uma ISO de outra arquitetura?

2012/10/11 Deivison Moraes deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br 
mailto:deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br


O meu não passa nem da primeira tela de instalação!


On 11-10-2012 08:41, Daniel Lenharo wrote:

Cara,

Aqui na empresa temos este servidor também. Para instalar,
primeiro criei as partições e raid pelo SmartCD da HP, ai
consegui instalar o Squeeze.

p.s: a versão 6.0.3 e 6.0.4 esta me dando um erro de instalação
(tanto no servidor, quanto no desktop).

Em 11 de outubro de 2012 08:26, Deivison Moraes
deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br
mailto:deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

Pessoal, estou tentando instalar debian 6 em um servidor HP
DL380. O cd boota normalmente e quando eu aperto enter em
INSTALL  trava e não sai da tela inicial. Nem aparece nenhuma
mensagem, troquei a midia várias vezes, baixei outra ISO. Mas
nada faz passar dessa parte.

Alguem ja sofreu com isso?


Grato deste já!
[]'s

Deivison Moraes


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Re: Debian agarra ao tentar instalar.

2012-10-11 Thread Deivison Moraes
Verifiquei, as teclas funcionam normal. Quando trava eu rebooto com o 
CTRL + ALT + DEL. Mas não entra em TTY4, já tentei.


[]'s

Deivison Moraes

On 11-10-2012 09:14, Daniel Lenharo wrote:

entra no TTY4 (CTRL+ALT+F4) e veja em que passo que ele trava.

Ai é possível ter uma ideia melhor.

Em 11 de outubro de 2012 09:09, Gabriel Ricardo gricard...@gmail.com 
mailto:gricard...@gmail.com escreveu:


já verificou pela tecla num lock se ele trava o servidor inteiro?



Atenciosamente,
*/Gabriel Ricardo./*
www.tinotapa.com.br http://www.tinotapa.com.br



Em 11 de outubro de 2012 09:00, Deivison Moraes
deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br
mailto:deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

O meu não passa nem da primeira tela de instalação!


On 11-10-2012 08:41, Daniel Lenharo wrote:

Cara,

Aqui na empresa temos este servidor também. Para instalar,
primeiro criei as partições e raid pelo SmartCD da HP, ai
consegui instalar o Squeeze.

p.s: a versão 6.0.3 e 6.0.4 esta me dando um erro de
instalação (tanto no servidor, quanto no desktop).

Em 11 de outubro de 2012 08:26, Deivison Moraes
deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br
mailto:deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

Pessoal, estou tentando instalar debian 6 em um servidor
HP DL380. O cd boota normalmente e quando eu aperto enter
em INSTALL  trava e não sai da tela inicial. Nem aparece
nenhuma mensagem, troquei a midia várias vezes, baixei
outra ISO. Mas nada faz passar dessa parte.

Alguem ja sofreu com isso?


Grato deste já!
[]'s

Deivison Moraes


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Re: Debian agarra ao tentar instalar.

2012-10-11 Thread Deivison Moraes

Estou instalando outra distribuição e está indo normal. Ubuntu no caso.

On 11-10-2012 09:31, Deivison Moraes wrote:
Verifiquei, as teclas funcionam normal. Quando trava eu rebooto com o 
CTRL + ALT + DEL. Mas não entra em TTY4, já tentei.


[]'s

Deivison Moraes

On 11-10-2012 09:14, Daniel Lenharo wrote:

entra no TTY4 (CTRL+ALT+F4) e veja em que passo que ele trava.

Ai é possível ter uma ideia melhor.

Em 11 de outubro de 2012 09:09, Gabriel Ricardo gricard...@gmail.com 
mailto:gricard...@gmail.com escreveu:


já verificou pela tecla num lock se ele trava o servidor inteiro?



Atenciosamente,
*/Gabriel Ricardo./*
www.tinotapa.com.br http://www.tinotapa.com.br



Em 11 de outubro de 2012 09:00, Deivison Moraes
deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br
mailto:deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

O meu não passa nem da primeira tela de instalação!


On 11-10-2012 08:41, Daniel Lenharo wrote:

Cara,

Aqui na empresa temos este servidor também. Para instalar,
primeiro criei as partições e raid pelo SmartCD da HP, ai
consegui instalar o Squeeze.

p.s: a versão 6.0.3 e 6.0.4 esta me dando um erro de
instalação (tanto no servidor, quanto no desktop).

Em 11 de outubro de 2012 08:26, Deivison Moraes
deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br
mailto:deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

Pessoal, estou tentando instalar debian 6 em um servidor
HP DL380. O cd boota normalmente e quando eu aperto
enter em INSTALL  trava e não sai da tela inicial. Nem
aparece nenhuma mensagem, troquei a midia várias vezes,
baixei outra ISO. Mas nada faz passar dessa parte.

Alguem ja sofreu com isso?


Grato deste já!
[]'s

Deivison Moraes


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Debug Networking

2012-10-11 Thread Hélder Pinheiro
Boa tarde a todos,

Tenho a eth0 configurada em /etc/network/interface como dhcp.
No entanto, tenho um script que  às vezes corro e que me configura um ip
estático atráves do comando ifconfig.
Esse script também activa um servidor dhcpv4, outro dhcpv6 e o radvd.

Tudo começa a funcionar bem, mas passado algum tempo, reparo que a porta
eth0 perdeu o meu ip estático e aparentemente ganhou um ip por dhcp do seu
próprio dhcpsV4.
Quero fazer tentar ver onde está o problema, mas não tenho muitos
conhecimentos de troubleshooting.
Relacionados com isto penso que sei o:
dmes
/var/log/messages
/var/log/syslog
/var/log/kern.log

Podem-me ajuda com mais informação de modo a conseguir fazer um
troubleshooting mais eficaz?



Cumprimentos,
Hélder Pinheiro


Re: Debian agarra ao tentar instalar.[resolvido]

2012-10-11 Thread Deivison Moraes
Pessoal, achei o problema. É a arquitetura mesmo, está máquina só 
suporta 32 bits pelo que eu vi é o DL 380G3.


Trágico

[]'s

Obrigado a todos!
Deivison Moraes

On 11-10-2012 09:33, Deivison Moraes wrote:

Estou instalando outra distribuição e está indo normal. Ubuntu no caso.

On 11-10-2012 09:31, Deivison Moraes wrote:
Verifiquei, as teclas funcionam normal. Quando trava eu rebooto com o 
CTRL + ALT + DEL. Mas não entra em TTY4, já tentei.


[]'s

Deivison Moraes

On 11-10-2012 09:14, Daniel Lenharo wrote:

entra no TTY4 (CTRL+ALT+F4) e veja em que passo que ele trava.

Ai é possível ter uma ideia melhor.

Em 11 de outubro de 2012 09:09, Gabriel Ricardo 
gricard...@gmail.com mailto:gricard...@gmail.com escreveu:


já verificou pela tecla num lock se ele trava o servidor inteiro?



Atenciosamente,
*/Gabriel Ricardo./*
www.tinotapa.com.br http://www.tinotapa.com.br



Em 11 de outubro de 2012 09:00, Deivison Moraes
deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br
mailto:deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

O meu não passa nem da primeira tela de instalação!


On 11-10-2012 08:41, Daniel Lenharo wrote:

Cara,

Aqui na empresa temos este servidor também. Para instalar,
primeiro criei as partições e raid pelo SmartCD da HP, ai
consegui instalar o Squeeze.

p.s: a versão 6.0.3 e 6.0.4 esta me dando um erro de
instalação (tanto no servidor, quanto no desktop).

Em 11 de outubro de 2012 08:26, Deivison Moraes
deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br
mailto:deivisonmor...@mutumnet.com.br escreveu:

Pessoal, estou tentando instalar debian 6 em um
servidor HP DL380. O cd boota normalmente e quando eu
aperto enter em INSTALL  trava e não sai da tela
inicial. Nem aparece nenhuma mensagem, troquei a midia
várias vezes, baixei outra ISO. Mas nada faz passar
dessa parte.

Alguem ja sofreu com isso?


Grato deste já!
[]'s

Deivison Moraes


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Re: Debug Networking

2012-10-11 Thread carne_de_passaro
Em 11 de outubro de 2012 10:35, Hélder Pinheiro pinheiro.helde...@gmail.com
 escreveu:

 Boa tarde a todos,

 Tenho a eth0 configurada em /etc/network/interface como dhcp.
 No entanto, tenho um script que  às vezes corro e que me configura um ip
 estático atráves do comando ifconfig.
 Esse script também activa um servidor dhcpv4, outro dhcpv6 e o radvd.

 Tudo começa a funcionar bem, mas passado algum tempo, reparo que a porta
 eth0 perdeu o meu ip estático e aparentemente ganhou um ip por dhcp do seu
 próprio dhcpsV4.
 Quero fazer tentar ver onde está o problema, mas não tenho muitos
 conhecimentos de troubleshooting.
 Relacionados com isto penso que sei o:
 dmes
 /var/log/messages
 /var/log/syslog
 /var/log/kern.log

 Podem-me ajuda com mais informação de modo a conseguir fazer um
 troubleshooting mais eficaz?



 Cumprimentos,
 Hélder Pinheiro



Boa noite, acho que pra começar você poderia verificar se nos seus scripts
não tem nenhum comando dhclient, que força as interfaces de rede a se
configurarem via DHCP.
Outra coisa, como o seu /etc/network/interfaces já está configurado pra
DHCP, caso em algum momento vc executar um ifdown e ifup, ele vai ler esse
arquivo e fazer a interfaces se configurar via DHCP.
Se executar um /etc/init.d/networking restart, vai fazer com que a
interface se configure por DHCP também.

Então, da uma checada se o seus sripts não restartam as interfaces através
desses comandos.

Att,


Re: DVB-T tuning problem

2012-10-11 Thread José Luis Segura Lucas
Thanks linuxlover.

I investigated it a bit deeper, and I found several problems and only
one little advance.

First, I used gnome-dvb-setup and tried to find channels. As I already
stated, my region/antenna is not listed on its lists, so I put no
information about my country or antenna and it, theoretically, perform a
full scan on all the frequencies. It didn't work at all, no channel was
found.

Then, I tried with scan, but I have the problem that I don't have an
input file for scan, so I avoided it at the beginning. As linuxlover
stated, I tried with dvbscan, but it has the same problem for me, it
needs an input file (different file than scan AFAIK).

At the end, I discovered w-scan package, and the w_scan tool. It is able
to generate as output the input for scan, dvbscan or a VDR
channels.conf directly.

I tried first using w_scan -ft -c ES -x for generating an input file for
scan/dvbscan (it is intended to work with gnome-dvb-daemon if you put
that file on the right directory). The three tools perform an scan, but
theynever return me a valid VDR channels.conf (empty files) or was
unable to find nothing (gnome-dvb-setup).

At the end, I tried to generate the VDR channels.conf using w_scan -ft
-c ES  vdr_channels.conf. Then, I tried to use that file is
gnome-dvb-control [1], but no channel was added and I was unable to see
TV through Totem

[1] https://live.gnome.org/DVBDaemon/UserGuide

P.S. I'm trying gnome-dvb-daemon because I'm interested in adopting this
package and I want to know how it works before ITA it.

On 10/10/12 10:25, linuxlover wrote:
 I think that this page can be of help:
 http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Dvbscan
 
 




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Re: newbie question on port forwarding(and ssh, netcat)

2012-10-11 Thread Valery Mamonov
2012/10/11 houkensjtu houkens...@gmail.com

 Thanks Joe, Brian, Murphy

 As I post above, I forgot to say all these experiments were done in my
 home on my laptop...
 Now I am in my office and re-do all this experiment.
 To be short, now all experiment which is done with ip address works well,
 while if I do ssh USER@DEBIAN, it will say:

 ssh: Could not resolve hostname debian: Name or service not known

 I am wondering, who(or what device,server) will resolve the hostname? Is
 it possible to resolve my laptop's name from my office??

 2012年10月11日木曜日 1時00分03秒 UTC+9 houkensjtu:
  Hi debianer!
 
  I am a newbie both of debian and networking...
 
  Recently I am trying to connect my home laptop(I have a router in my
 home) from office. I read several articles on port forwarding. And I
 succeeded in opening an 22 port on my router, also I started ssh server on
 my home laptop.
 
 
 
  (suppose my username at home is USER, and my laptop is called DEBIAN)
 
 
 
  I did several experiment and I got confusing in some of its result.
 
 
 
  1. ssh USER@DEBIAN
 
 
 
  works well!!
 
 
 
  2. nc -vz my_home_external_ip 22
 
  [my_home_external_ip] 22 (ssh) : Connection refused
 
 
 
  I cant understand why is it. Because I have actually succeeded in test 1!
 
 
 
  3. ssh -l USER my_home_external_ip
 
  ssh: connect to host my_home_external_ip port 22: Connection refused
 
  This also doesnt work! I thought it should be equivalent to test 1, but
 things just dont work.
 
 
 
  Any one can explain this?
 
 
 
 
 
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Hello. You can use such services as no-ip.com or dyndns.org to create a DNS
A-record for your home external IP-address. This DNS record will be
resolved everywhere.
Also you can modify the 'hosts' file on your work computer (/etc/hosts in
Linux and c:\windows]system32\drivers\etc\hosts in windows) and put the
name of your home computer there. With second approach you'll be able to
resolve the name on your work computer only.

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Re: wi-fi connection and wicd

2012-10-11 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Lisi,

  What kernel version are you running?
 
 2.6.32-5-686
 
 Thanks for your reply,
 Lisi

there is also another bugreport by me from earlier times. But I guess, this 
reason might be in older kernels, too. At the moment I am running kernek 3.5 
from experimental with no errors at all.

However, I think, it is a kernel bug, and is fixed since kernel 3.5.

Here is my old bugeport, which is closed (and reopened by the bugreport you 
already know):

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687046

At the moment, i know no other solution, than to switch to a running 3.2.0 
kernel (see in my bugreport, which ran for me), or use 3.5 from experimental.

Goo luck!

Hans




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Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-11 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer


Am 10.10.2012 um 00:41 schrieb Wally Lepore:


I am at the critical point in the installation process known as the
partition set-up. I have chosen 'manual' set-up for the partitions and
have arrived at the part where its asking me to partition the 2nd hard
disk (sdb). I have not advanced through this section therefore I do
not know what questions will arrive next. I don't want to mess this
up. I will be installing debian-squeeze to its own hard disk (sdb) in
a dual boot set-up.


The installer ask you, if you want to keep your Win-installation.




My partition scheme (that I have not set-up yet and based somewhat on
the above link) will be as follows:

1st Partition -- Boot Partition
/boot-- Type: Primary -- 500MB -- Ext4 journaling file system --
Location: Beginning

Second Partition -- Root Partition
/  -- Type: Logical -- 15000MB -- Ext4 journaling file system
-- Location: Beginning

3rd Partition -- Home Partition
/home  -- Type: Logical -- 6MB -- Ext4 journaling file system --
Location: Beginning

SWAP Area
Swap   -- Type: Logical -- 2000MB  -- Ext4 journaling file system --
Location: Beginning


If there is no serious reason I always partition swap + / (all in one  
root)


The experience showed me that overpartitioning is time-consuming later.

It depends on the intended usage of the computer how high is the risk  
of repartioning later.


E.g. for a development workstation 10 GB for /usr was to small at  
Debian Sarge times, because of many large packages installed.


Also there was a need to repartition and reinstall my 5 years old  
netbook (dual boot) to have all in one partition of 60 GB.


If you install on software-RAID, then /boot should have its own  
partition like this server:


root@xen07:/# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/vg00-lv_root
   92G  1.8G   86G   3% /
tmpfs 3.9G 0  3.9G   0% /lib/init/rw
udev  3.5G  172K  3.5G   1% /dev
tmpfs 3.9G 0  3.9G   0% /dev/shm
/dev/md0  472M   42M  407M  10% /boot

This is a XEN-host with 2 x 1 TB disks in RAID-1, with LVM. The  
virtual machines each have swap + root like this:


root@dev:/# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/xvda2197G   22G  166G  12% /
tmpfs1023M 0 1023M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev  988M   32K  988M   1% /dev
tmpfs1023M  4.0K 1023M   1% /dev/shm

Helmut Wollmersdorfer


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More on port forwarding(ssh, netcat and amule!)

2012-10-11 Thread houkensjtu
Hi debianer!

I post a question about port forwarding yesterday and got quick reply, big 
thanks!
Now I still have sth. not clear and it can be described as:

I have a laptop in my home, which is connected to my router. Yesterday, I 
succeeded in open a ssh port(22) on router, and start ssh server on my laptop. 
Now I can access my laptop from office by ssh USER@my_home_external_ip.

Also, scan port by using netcat from office:
nc -vz my_home_external_ip 22
gives me:
Connection to my_home_external_ip port [tcp/ssh] succeeded!

Today, I tried to open another port on my router, let me call it 1234. And I 
set amule on my laptop to use port 1234 for both tcp and udp. Fortunatelly, I 
got a High ID as expected.

And then I got confused.
I tried to scan port 1234 from my office:
nc -vz my_home_external_ip 1234
it says:
nc: connect to my_home_external_ip port 1234 (tcp) failed: Connection refused

However, after I remote access my laptop, launch amule on it, netcat now can:
Connection to my_home_external_ip 1234 port [tcp/*] succeeded!

It seems that, not only on the router, but also I should open a specific port 
on my laptop, otherwise netcat will not be able to connect from outside my home.

I wonder why this happens and what is the mechanism behind it.
Is it possible to open a port in debian, without launch certain software so I 
can netcat from outside to my home laptop?

Thanks!


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Re: More on port forwarding(ssh, netcat and amule!)

2012-10-11 Thread Tom Grace
On 11/10/12 09:53, houkensjtu wrote:
 It seems that, not only on the router, but also I should open a specific port 
 on my laptop, otherwise netcat will not be able to connect from outside my 
 home.
 
 I wonder why this happens and what is the mechanism behind it.
 Is it possible to open a port in debian, without launch certain software so I 
 can netcat from outside to my home laptop?

You can have the port open in firewall terms, but if you don't have any
software listening on it you will receive connection refused.




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RE: More on port forwarding(ssh, netcat and amule!)

2012-10-11 Thread Pietro Paolini
Hello,

A port number identifies a process running in your machine, then is implicit 
that a process must be running and listening on that port. When your netcat  
try to connect it will probably receives an ICMP packet advertising the 
Connection Refused or an TCP segment with the flags RST set on.

Hope this can help you.

Pietro.



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From: robo...@news.nic.it [mailto:robo...@news.nic.it] On Behalf Of houkensjtu
Sent: giovedì 11 ottobre 2012 10:53
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: More on port forwarding(ssh, netcat and amule!)

Hi debianer!

I post a question about port forwarding yesterday and got quick reply, big 
thanks!
Now I still have sth. not clear and it can be described as:

I have a laptop in my home, which is connected to my router. Yesterday, I 
succeeded in open a ssh port(22) on router, and start ssh server on my laptop. 
Now I can access my laptop from office by ssh USER@my_home_external_ip.

Also, scan port by using netcat from office:
nc -vz my_home_external_ip 22
gives me:
Connection to my_home_external_ip port [tcp/ssh] succeeded!

Today, I tried to open another port on my router, let me call it 1234. And I 
set amule on my laptop to use port 1234 for both tcp and udp. Fortunatelly, I 
got a High ID as expected.

And then I got confused.
I tried to scan port 1234 from my office:
nc -vz my_home_external_ip 1234
it says:
nc: connect to my_home_external_ip port 1234 (tcp) failed: Connection refused

However, after I remote access my laptop, launch amule on it, netcat now can:
Connection to my_home_external_ip 1234 port [tcp/*] succeeded!

It seems that, not only on the router, but also I should open a specific port 
on my laptop, otherwise netcat will not be able to connect from outside my home.

I wonder why this happens and what is the mechanism behind it.
Is it possible to open a port in debian, without launch certain software so I 
can netcat from outside to my home laptop?

Thanks!


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Re: wi-fi connection and wicd

2012-10-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 10 Oct 2012 at 17:29:13 +0100, Lisi wrote:

[Some selective snipping done]

 I have a newly installed Debian 6.0.6 on my netbook.  I cannot get wi-fi 
 going.  I have checked the wi-fi card itself by booting a Live DVD.  It 
 connects fine on Ubuntu 12.04.

Using a Debian Live CD would have been more instructive, I think.

 wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:off/any
   Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=0 dBm

Confirms the lack of connectivity.

 lisi@Cronos:~$ lsmod | grep ath5k
 ath5k 104138  0
 mac80211  123586  1 ath5k
 ath 6018  1 ath5k
 cfg80211   87645  3 ath5k,mac80211,ath
 led_class   1757  1 ath5k

Looks like all the required kernel modules are there.

 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless 
 Network Adapter (rev 01)

No firmware needed according to the Debian wiki. The installer would
have asked for it.

 wicd has been a bit problematic since I installed it.  It took various 
 adjustments before it got to this stage.
 
 I have never had a problem of any kind with wicd before, and I have installed 
 it frequently.

I'm not familiar with wicd. However, wicd uses wpa_supplicant so we
could see what it can do by itself.

1. Stop the wicd daemon from being run:

update-rc.d wicd disable

   Do the same with network-manager if it too is in /etc/init.d.
   'enable' to revert back.

2. Comment out everything in /etc/network/interfaces (apart from lo) and
   add:

allow-hotplug wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
  wpa-ssid MyAccessPoint
  wpa-psk  passphrase in ASCII

 Where do I go next??

Cross your fingers and reboot.


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Re: wi-fi connection and wicd

2012-10-11 Thread simNIX

Hello,

For me on squeeze all works fine.

When I add wicd (after I did a remove and purge of network-manager) then 
the final step to do to get wifi going is setting in gui part wicd which 
wireless card to use - for me wlan0.


Als during install setup asks me what user should be added to netdev 
group to be allowed to utilize wicd.


Hope this helps you further,
Cor



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Re: Running 32bit OpenGL program with amd64

2012-10-11 Thread Alberto Luaces
lee writes:

 Alberto Luaces writes:

 lee writes:

 Francesco Pietra writes:

 Hello:
 I would like to continue to use a 32bit graphical program based on
 OpenGL. It worked well on i386, requiring libXm.so.3 (from libmotif3).

 Is it conceivable to simply add libXm.so.3 (taken from my dismissed
 i388 PC) to ia32-libs?

 If you're running stable, it might work if all dependencies are
 fulfilled.  You could try it out ...  In testing, 32bit support is
 broken, and ia32-libs seems to be deprecated in favour of brokenarch.

 I had no problems using multiarch in testing and installing the required
 :i386 packages.

 I've been using a 32bit application which stopped working when the
 NVIDIA drivers were updated last time.

Correct.  The same happened to me.

 The reasons why it stopped working are unknown, 

Not quite.  The *nvidia-glx-ia32 packages where emptied/obsoleted.  See
for example http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32 .

 and apparently I would have to switch to brokenarch before having a
 chance to get it working again.  There's no way to tell which i386
 packages would need to be installed, and since it doesn't work anyway,
 there's no point in trying to find out.


Yes it is.  If you have installed the typical 64-bit .deb package that
is actually a 32-bit binary with the ia32-libs package dependency, you
can just quickly install the real 32-bit .deb.  Then apt-get or aptitude
will pull the :i386 dependencies for that :i386 package.  This can be
done for example, for skype or the Humble Bundle games.

If your package is not installed as a .deb file, you would be on your
own as well recollecting the appropriate libraries in 32 bit.
Nevertheless, you can track which ones are required with the command
'ldd' and the Debian packages page
(http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages)  This is not a specific
multiarch advice, anyway.


 However, I had to use the nvidia drivers from experimental in order to
 have working 32-bit OpenGL libraries.

 I have tried that at least three times now.  It doesn't work, causes
 dependency problems and is difficult to fix once it's messed up.

The only tricky part at the time of this writing is to select the right
nvidia drivers if you are using them.  But as I said, now there is
available at the experimental repository a new version that fixes the
multiarch problem for OpenGL.  Just take care of installing the exact
same version of drivers and libraries among the multiple solutions
offered to you by the conflict resolution tool in apt-get/aptitude.

 32bit support is totally broken, brokenarch totally sucks, and I'm
 majorly pissed and don't trust Debian anymore.  It seems unlikely that
 the problem will be fixed before the next release is out, and I find it
 amazing that they will leave the users of stable with this problem and
 have them find out that their 32bit software doesn't work anymore after
 the upgrade.  If it wasn't such a pita to do it, I'd already have
 switched to something else.

I think the opposite.  I see all mature enough, and I expect that tiny
details like the one I described will be ironed out before the release.
The concept is simple: activate multiarch → install 32-bit software by
means of 32-bit .debs.  The wine package for wheezy in amd64 has a nice
documentation on how to activate multiarch.

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PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread Alejandro Santos
Hi,

I'm using Debian Wheezy Testing on both my desktop computer and my
Laptop. On the Laptop the sound works fine, but on the desktop I can't
play two or more sounds at the same time, for example while watching a
video on VLC, hitting pause, then opening a video on YouTube.

Other problem is: after watching a video on VLC and closing VLC, I
have to wait 20 seconds to open a new VLC program since otherwise the
sound coming out of the speakers will be garbage.

Since after killing the PulseAudio daemon with pulseaudio -k the
problems goes away, it is my strong opinion that this is a PulseAudio
issue.

My workaround so far was to remove the execution permissions on
PulseAdio with: chmod a-x /usr/bin/pulseaudio

I have two questions:

1. How can I debug this problem? I'd like to file an appropiate bug on
the corresponding bug tracker.

2. I can't purge the package with aptitude purge pulseaudio since
the package pulseaudio is a dependency on gnome-core. After
killing PulseAudio, the sound works fine. I'm a software developer
myself, and I can't help keep asking myself, why is PulseAudio an
strong dependency on Gnome? What advantages does PulseAudio gives me
as a user over good ol' ALSA?

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Re: PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:21:54AM -0300, Alejandro Santos wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm using Debian Wheezy Testing on both my desktop computer and my
 Laptop. On the Laptop the sound works fine, but on the desktop I can't
 play two or more sounds at the same time, for example while watching a
 video on VLC, hitting pause, then opening a video on YouTube.
 
 Other problem is: after watching a video on VLC and closing VLC, I
 have to wait 20 seconds to open a new VLC program since otherwise the
 sound coming out of the speakers will be garbage.

Is your VLC configured to use Pulseaudio? You'll get best results with
Pulseaudio using an all-or-nothing approach.

 
 Since after killing the PulseAudio daemon with pulseaudio -k the
 problems goes away, it is my strong opinion that this is a PulseAudio
 issue.
 
 My workaround so far was to remove the execution permissions on
 PulseAdio with: chmod a-x /usr/bin/pulseaudio
 
 I have two questions:
 
 1. How can I debug this problem? I'd like to file an appropiate bug on
 the corresponding bug tracker.

Probably your first action is to determine which package is at fault.
Try playing a sound with paplay and then playing it again within 20
seconds. If you hear garbage the second time, then it's probably a
pulseaudio problem. If you don't hear problems, then it probably IS a
VLC issue.

 
 2. I can't purge the package with aptitude purge pulseaudio since
 the package pulseaudio is a dependency on gnome-core. After
 killing PulseAudio, the sound works fine. I'm a software developer
 myself, and I can't help keep asking myself, why is PulseAudio an
 strong dependency on Gnome? What advantages does PulseAudio gives me
 as a user over good ol' ALSA?

Due to various differences of opinion gnome-core isn't as minimal as
its title might have you believe. If you need Gnome without pulseaudio,
try removing the gnome-core package, but add everything it depends on.

In answer to your other question, though, Pulseaudio is a networked
sound server. It has a lot more capability than ALSA does such as the
ability to stream audio over a network, the ability to (fairly) easily
manage multiple sources AND sinks (that is, you can replicate 4.0
surround sound using two sound cards, or even two computers). See the
wikipedia article for a nice intro:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio



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Re: does iceweasel have java plugin?

2012-10-11 Thread Steve Kleene
On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 23:37:36 +, I wrote:
 I do have Java packages installed (gcj-4.4-jre, sun-java6-bin, etc.).  In
 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins, I see:

   libjavaplugin.so - /etc/alternatives/iceweasel-javaplugin.so

 which in turn points to:

   /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

On Wed Oct 10 11:16:52 2012, Michael P. Soulier replied:

 Try symlinking from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ instead. I have plugins there
 that are working fine.

I see I have plugins there too.  I don't really know which ones are called by
iceweasel, but it all seems to work now in any case.  Thanks.


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Re: PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Oct 2012 at 10:21:54 -0300, Alejandro Santos wrote:

 Since after killing the PulseAudio daemon with pulseaudio -k the
 problems goes away, it is my strong opinion that this is a PulseAudio
 issue.
 
 My workaround so far was to remove the execution permissions on
 PulseAdio with: chmod a-x /usr/bin/pulseaudio

The Debian way:

   update-rc.d pulseaudio disable

 2. I can't purge the package with aptitude purge pulseaudio since
 the package pulseaudio is a dependency on gnome-core. After
 killing PulseAudio, the sound works fine. I'm a software developer
 myself, and I can't help keep asking myself, why is PulseAudio an
 strong dependency on Gnome? What advantages does PulseAudio gives me
 as a user over good ol' ALSA?

I'm just a user and I ask myself, why install gnome-core when all the
bits and pieces to make a customised GNOME are in the archive?


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Re: PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

On 11/10/2012 15:21, Alejandro Santos wrote:

Hi,

I'm using Debian Wheezy Testing on both my desktop computer and my
Laptop. On the Laptop the sound works fine, but on the desktop I can't
play two or more sounds at the same time, for example while watching a
video on VLC, hitting pause, then opening a video on YouTube.

Other problem is: after watching a video on VLC and closing VLC, I
have to wait 20 seconds to open a new VLC program since otherwise the
sound coming out of the speakers will be garbage.


Hi, on Wheezy/Sid here I use Pulseaudio without problem. VLC is 
configured to output to pulse (vlc-plugin-pulse installed), works fine 
here, vlc and flash or anything else. I use KDE, did nothing special to 
make it work, only timidity gave me trouble but it was easily solved. 
User belongs to pulse group.


Since after killing the PulseAudio daemon with pulseaudio -k the
problems goes away, it is my strong opinion that this is a PulseAudio
issue.

My workaround so far was to remove the execution permissions on
PulseAdio with: chmod a-x /usr/bin/pulseaudio

I have two questions:

1. How can I debug this problem? I'd like to file an appropiate bug on
the corresponding bug tracker.

Make sure the problem really lies with Pulse.
You could start by dumping pulse config with --dump-conf, change log 
level (--log-level). Install debug packages.




2. I can't purge the package with aptitude purge pulseaudio since
the package pulseaudio is a dependency on gnome-core. After
killing PulseAudio, the sound works fine. I'm a software developer
myself, and I can't help keep asking myself, why is PulseAudio an
strong dependency on Gnome? What advantages does PulseAudio gives me
as a user over good ol' ALSA?



I can play a flash video or listen to the bbc player and watch a video 
in vlc at the same time. I can throw Amarok into the mix or use at the 
same time Tuxguitar outputting through timidity and vlc (nice to write 
tabs from a concert video ;-). I can just click on the kde mixer applet 
and adjust output volume for each application separately.
Record with a lightweight device and stream the sound to another 
powerful computer over the LAN to process it, and I am not even 
scratching the surface of what can be done with Pulse.
I have been defiant toward anything pulse for a long time as it used 
to screw things up out of the box more than often (in KDE in my case). 
I adopted it not long ago, and I would be sad going back. My only 
complaint is that it isn't trivial to make it play with jackd, but given 
the nature of jack and the rarity of this setup it's not surprising.




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Re: PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread Alejandro Santos
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 On Thu 11 Oct 2012 at 10:21:54 -0300, Alejandro Santos wrote:


 My workaround so far was to remove the execution permissions on
 PulseAdio with: chmod a-x /usr/bin/pulseaudio

 The Debian way:

update-rc.d pulseaudio disable


By default, PulseAudio is on Debian Wheezy configured not to start as
an init.d SysV daemon. That won't work.

 2. I can't purge the package with aptitude purge pulseaudio since
 the package pulseaudio is a dependency on gnome-core. After
 killing PulseAudio, the sound works fine. I'm a software developer
 myself, and I can't help keep asking myself, why is PulseAudio an
 strong dependency on Gnome? What advantages does PulseAudio gives me
 as a user over good ol' ALSA?

 I'm just a user and I ask myself, why install gnome-core when all the
 bits and pieces to make a customised GNOME are in the archive?


Since I am not a native English speaker I must be missing something in
the translation on my head. Can you explain further this comment?

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Re: PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread Alejandro Santos
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com
tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi, on Wheezy/Sid here I use Pulseaudio without problem. VLC is configured
 to output to pulse (vlc-plugin-pulse installed), works fine here, vlc and
 flash or anything else. I use KDE, did nothing special to make it work, only
 timidity gave me trouble but it was easily solved. User belongs to pulse
 group.


Before posting my initial message, I have actually read the
debian-user mailing list archives, and I know for a fact that
PulseAudio can generate some heated discussions.

I do know that PulseAudio works for most people. Thanks for your vote
of confidence. But please, don't transform this thread on
yet-anoter-X-software-is-{awesome/crap}. I want my sound working, and
I want to fix PulseAudio.

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Re: PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

On 11/10/2012 18:12, Alejandro Santos wrote:

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com
tv.deb...@googlemail.com  wrote:


Hi, on Wheezy/Sid here I use Pulseaudio without problem. VLC is configured
to output to pulse (vlc-plugin-pulse installed), works fine here, vlc and
flash or anything else. I use KDE, did nothing special to make it work, only
timidity gave me trouble but it was easily solved. User belongs to pulse
group.



Before posting my initial message, I have actually read the
debian-user mailing list archives, and I know for a fact that
PulseAudio can generate some heated discussions.

I do know that PulseAudio works for most people. Thanks for your vote
of confidence. But please, don't transform this thread on
yet-anoter-X-software-is-{awesome/crap}. I want my sound working, and
I want to fix PulseAudio.

Thanks again,



Wasn't my intention, was responding to :

I'm a software developer myself, and I can't help keep asking myself, 
why is PulseAudio an strong dependency on Gnome? What advantages does

  ^^^
PulseAudio gives me as a user over good ol' ALSA?


Kind of sounds as an invite for yet another a heated discussion over the 
merits of pulse... I tried to be factual, give clues of what could be 
missing in your setup, and did say in another part of the message that I 
wasn't a pulseaudio fanboy, just a currently happy user.


Sorry for polluting your thread with silly attempts to help you.


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Re: PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

On 11/10/2012 18:07, Alejandro Santos wrote:

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Briana...@cityscape.co.uk  wrote:

On Thu 11 Oct 2012 at 10:21:54 -0300, Alejandro Santos wrote:




[snip]

2. I can't purge the package with aptitude purge pulseaudio since
the package pulseaudio is a dependency on gnome-core. After
killing PulseAudio, the sound works fine. I'm a software developer
myself, and I can't help keep asking myself, why is PulseAudio an
strong dependency on Gnome? What advantages does PulseAudio gives me
as a user over good ol' ALSA?


I'm just a user and I ask myself, why install gnome-core when all the
bits and pieces to make a customised GNOME are in the archive?



Since I am not a native English speaker I must be missing something in
the translation on my head. Can you explain further this comment?

Thanks,



Not a native English speaker either, but what I understand is: don't 
install metapackages and then complain that they are crap-bags, use them 
as guidance to install what you really need among their dependencies.



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Re: PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread Ivan Shmakov
 Alejandro Santos lis...@alejolp.com writes:

[…]

  1. How can I debug this problem?  I'd like to file an appropiate bug
  on the corresponding bug tracker.

While I'm not a PulseAudio user myself, some of those I know use
it, so I'm somewhat interested in that, too.

(Thanks to Darac Marjal for his hints on P-A debugging elsewhere
in this thread, BTW.)

[…]

  I'm a software developer myself, and I can't help keep asking myself,
  why is PulseAudio an strong dependency on Gnome?  What advantages
  does PulseAudio gives me as a user over good ol' ALSA?

I remember playing with both GNOME and KDE back in 2000 or so.
Honestly, I still don't get what advantages do they give to me
over the good old “bunch of X applications” approach.

(Though I've discovered somewhat recently that there're a few
interesting Qt-based applications in Debian.  Previously,
anything depending on Qt was out of consideration for me.)

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Re: [OT] dhcpd and always-broadcast

2012-10-11 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis
On 10/11/2012 07:51 AM, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Panayiotis Karabassis pan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hey,

 I have an OT question about the always-broadcast option of the dhcpd server.

 Based on the Wikipedia article, all DHCP messages to the client are sent
 to the broadcast address. This makes sense, since the UDP protocol used
 by DHCP runs on top of the IP protocol, and the client does not have an
 IP address until the DHCP negotiation is completed.

 So, what is the use of this option? Under what circumstances should the
 server not broadcast its messages?

 
 In a DHCP request, a client can choose to say that it does not need
 responses to be broadcast.  There is a broadcast bit in the DHCP
 request that the client can turn off.  The always-broadcast option for
 the DHCP server says that the server should ignore the unset broadcast
 bit and always broadcast the response.
 
 How does the client receive a unicast response, you ask?  The response
 will still have the client's hardware address (MAC address).  So the
 response will reach the client's interface.
 
 It seems, though, that this functionality is not often used.  Clients
 always seem to set the broadcast bit, even if they will be able to
 receive a unicast response.  I had a problem recently, where some
 random malfunctioning device on a network was seeing random DHCP
 responses intended for someone else and assigning the offered address
 to itself.  I had to patch dhcpd to ignore the broadcast bit and
 always send a unicast response (a never-broadcast option).  It
 worked surprisingly well.
 

Thanks! I had the reverse problem. My android device (apparently
android's dhcp client is buggy) would not receive the dhcp assignments
even though the server would send them.

Had the malfunctioning device requested an address in the first place? I
think in any case it should not happen, because -I think- the DHCP
packets include a 'transaction' field, by means of which a client can
distinguish whether the packet is intended for it or not.

So, UDP packets can be sent to MAC addresses? I was confused because in
the Wikipedia article, IP addresses where shown in the headers.


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Re: PulseAudio sound issues

2012-10-11 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

[received personally, forwarding to list]

On 11/10/2012 19:20, Yaro Kasear wrote:

On 10/11/2012 12:10 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:

On 11/10/2012 18:07, Alejandro Santos wrote:

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Briana...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

On Thu 11 Oct 2012 at 10:21:54 -0300, Alejandro Santos wrote:




[snip]

2. I can't purge the package with aptitude purge pulseaudio since
the package pulseaudio is a dependency on gnome-core. After
killing PulseAudio, the sound works fine. I'm a software developer
myself, and I can't help keep asking myself, why is PulseAudio an
strong dependency on Gnome? What advantages does PulseAudio gives me
as a user over good ol' ALSA?


I'm just a user and I ask myself, why install gnome-core when all the
bits and pieces to make a customised GNOME are in the archive?



Since I am not a native English speaker I must be missing something in
the translation on my head. Can you explain further this comment?

Thanks,



Not a native English speaker either, but what I understand is: don't
install metapackages and then complain that they are crap-bags, use
them as guidance to install what you really need among their
dependencies.



Fortunately if you don't use GNOME (Why anyone subjects themselves to 
GNOME 3 willingly is beyond me, but a different topic altogether. 
There's a very good reason why MATE forked off.), then you don't have to 
put up with Pulseaudio usually. It really is a pain to work with if you 
don't accept its default configurations, which have a 50% chance of 
guessing the ideal settings for your system wrong. Frankly I've always 
found that bare ALSA works fine in almost all cases, a far higher 
functionality rate than PA.




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Re: Adding user to dual boot laptop

2012-10-11 Thread Curt
On 2012-10-10, Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote:

 3. Permissions, owners and structure for files passwd, shadow and group 
 are exactly the same as my entries.


How about user home directory and other user file permissions (which
shouldn't belong to root)?


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Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-11 Thread lee
Wally Lepore wallylep...@gmail.com writes:

 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:38 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
 Wally Lepore wallylep...@gmail.com writes:

 Thank you for putting up your questions in such a well made way!


 I appreciate that. Takes me forever to reply to all posts because I
 need to make sure my questions are 'somewhat' clear. :-)

It's just nice to see a well made question for a change.  That makes it
so much easier and more fun to answer than the many guessing requests
that can be found on this mailing list :)

 Is this an acceptable partition set-up? Based on a disk capacity of 80
 gigs, are the allotted partition sizes acceptable?  Any suggestions
 please ?

 It depends on what you want to use the computer for.  If you (mainly)
 use it to learn programming in C/C++/Object C, you're not like to need a
 lot of space on /var and probably no /opt partition, for example.

 Ok I'm reading this again and again. Awesome info here. Thank you. I
 have no idea what /var and /opt actually stand for or what they are
 used for but I continue to study?

You may want to take a look at the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard[1].
This standard defines what files go where --- with Linux, you don't have
the total mess you get with windoze so you just know where to find what.

/opt is for optional files that belong to some application (and don't
exactly fit in otherwise) while /var is for variable data, like log
files, spool files, caches, databases.  I don't know why they have files
for the web server under /var --- the FHS probably has some reasoning
about that somewhere ...


[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard

 To give you some numbers:

 swap10GB [1]
 /2GB including /boot
 /usr12GB
 /var 2GB
 /tmp 2GB
 /homethe rest of it

 Wow! Excuse my enthusiasm but you really explain this well! I
 appreciate the amount of time you spent explaining this. Swap 10 gigs
 ?? I'm reading on.

You're welcome :)  That kind of swap just makes sense to me.  It isn't
so much that it would actually hurt you; it doesn't leave you stranded
like only 2GB would, and it gives you time to do something in case
you're about to run out of memory.

 swap10GB [1]
 /3GB including /boot
 /usr15GB
 /var 4GB
 /tmp 4GB
 /homethe rest of it


 [1]: There's a recommendation to have swap partitions at the very
  beginning of the disk because it's supposed to be faster.  I'd make

 I need to place /boot at the beginning of the disk because I am using
 two hard drives in a dual-boot. For booting windows and Debian. /boot
 will be at the beginning of the 2nd drive (sdb).

Hmm I don't know what speaks against having a swap partition first and
then /boot, or against going without a separate /boot partition.  IIRC,
the reason to put /boot onto a separate partition was that some BIOS'
were not able to access/address a partition if it was larger than some
limit or further than some limit away from the beginning of the
disk. Another reason can be that a partition on a RAID might be
inaccessible during boot, so using a partition for /boot that isn't on
RAID can be a (very ugly) workaround.  Are there any particular reasons
for a /boot partition being needed at the beginning of a disk for
instances in which several OSs are installed (on several disks)?

 This drive will be
 100% devoted to debian. I will then change the boot order in BIOS to
 have sdb drive boot. This will display a menu asking which OS to boot
 (windows or debian). See the end of page 2 on this link please:

 http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/

I've never tried that ... If it doesn't work, I guess you could
(inconveniently) always keep changing in the BIOS from which disk to
boot.

 System specs:

 iWill DVD266R motherboard
 'Dual' Pentium III cpu's (1 GHz each) Total: 2 GHz
 1 gig DDR memory
 CD-R/RW
 DVD - R/RW

 That may be somewhat slow for programming when you compile stuff.
 You're really tight on RAM, so you'll probably want a slim X11 session.
 In any case, install a minimal system and add what you need later.  As
 for your X11 session for programming, you might be happy with emacs (and
 gnus for your email, so the first thing is to compile emacs because the
 one in Debian is too old) as an editor, i3 as a window manager and rxvt
 as a terminal, and maybe tmux.


 Ok but words like i3, rxvt, X11 are very foreign to me at this point.
 I won't really get up to speed until I'm finished installing and can
 start learning how to compile packages.

Oh I didn't compile the Debian packages but downloaded the most recent
version and compiled it.  If I had compiled from the Debian source
packages, the outcome won't be much different from the binary packages
and too old as well.  The package management doesn't know about what I
have installed --- that's why it goes into /usr/local.

 Having that said, you might get away with about 

pcspkr

2012-10-11 Thread lee

Hi,

with the pcspkr module installed, shouldn't I hear the beep through the
sound card that otherwise would be played by a little loudspeaker
connected to the mainboard?

Or do I need to have that very loudspeaker installed and the module
loaded to hear the beep?  Or would I hear the beep without the module
installed if I had the loudspeaker?

Without the loudspeaker and with the module installed and the slider
labled Beep unmuted and turned up in alsamixer, I don't hear a beep.

IIRC that used to work --- any ideas why it doesn't work anymore?


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Re: Running 32bit OpenGL program with amd64

2012-10-11 Thread lee
Alberto Luaces alua...@udc.es writes:

 I've been using a 32bit application which stopped working when the
 NVIDIA drivers were updated last time.

 Correct.  The same happened to me.

Yeah and it's impossible to get it working again :

 The reasons why it stopped working are unknown, 

 Not quite.  The *nvidia-glx-ia32 packages where emptied/obsoleted.  See
 for example http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32 .

That doesn't mean that's the reason why it stopped working.

 and apparently I would have to switch to brokenarch before having a
 chance to get it working again.  There's no way to tell which i386
 packages would need to be installed, and since it doesn't work anyway,
 there's no point in trying to find out.


 Yes it is.  If you have installed the typical 64-bit .deb package that
 is actually a 32-bit binary with the ia32-libs package dependency, you
 can just quickly install the real 32-bit .deb.  Then apt-get or aptitude
 will pull the :i386 dependencies for that :i386 package.  This can be
 done for example, for skype or the Humble Bundle games.

There is no Debian package for this 32bit application.

 If your package is not installed as a .deb file, you would be on your
 own as well recollecting the appropriate libraries in 32 bit.
 Nevertheless, you can track which ones are required with the command
 'ldd' and the Debian packages page
 (http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages)  This is not a specific
 multiarch advice, anyway.

What would that help me without knowing why the application doesn't work
anymore?  It seems reasonable to assume that it has something to do with
the NVIDIA drivers --- if I could, I'd just go back to the previous
version.

 However, I had to use the nvidia drivers from experimental in order to
 have working 32-bit OpenGL libraries.

 I have tried that at least three times now.  It doesn't work, causes
 dependency problems and is difficult to fix once it's messed up.

 The only tricky part at the time of this writing is to select the right
 nvidia drivers if you are using them.  But as I said, now there is
 available at the experimental repository a new version that fixes the
 multiarch problem for OpenGL.  Just take care of installing the exact
 same version of drivers and libraries among the multiple solutions
 offered to you by the conflict resolution tool in apt-get/aptitude.

The package management doesn't know anything about unstable or
experimental anymore because that lead to problems, so it doesn't
present any solutions.  If I download and install packages manually, it
causes dependency problems, and I might have to do so indefinitely once
I started doing it.

 32bit support is totally broken, brokenarch totally sucks, and I'm
 majorly pissed and don't trust Debian anymore.  It seems unlikely that
 the problem will be fixed before the next release is out, and I find it
 amazing that they will leave the users of stable with this problem and
 have them find out that their 32bit software doesn't work anymore after
 the upgrade.  If it wasn't such a pita to do it, I'd already have
 switched to something else.

 I think the opposite.  I see all mature enough, and I expect that tiny
 details like the one I described will be ironed out before the release.

It's not a tiny detail when an important feature suddenly disappears
without any warning and without any way to get it back.  It's also not a
tiny detail when you're suddenly supposed to give up amd64 and switch to
brokenarch.  It would be easier to re-install and use i386 instead of
amd64, but I don't like the idea of turning my system back about a
decade because Debian is totally messed up now --- and it's about as
much work as switching.

 The concept is simple: activate multiarch → install 32-bit software by
 means of 32-bit .debs.  The wine package for wheezy in amd64 has a nice
 documentation on how to activate multiarch.

I don't have any use for wine and the two or three times I tried it over
the years, wine didn't work anyway.  Last time it couldn't even run
notepad.

Anyway, the concept sucks and is anything but simple.  So what do I need
to install --- packages from testing only, of course --- to get things
working again?  Why isn't that documented somewhere?


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arp cache incomplete entries

2012-10-11 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis
Hi,

I've noticed that, often, after establishing a connection to the local
network, important entries in the ARP cache, such as that of my
nameserver, appear as 'incomplete' and have not an associated hardware
address. Connection to these hosts often fails.

What are the possible reasons why this could happen? And is there any
way to repopulate the ARP cache without reconnecting? How is the ARP
cache populated in the first place?

Unfortunately, I often have to reset my router, and hence LAN
connections, because of problems with my ISP, so this problem appears
frequently.

Thanks,
Panayiotis


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Re: wi-fi connection and wicd

2012-10-11 Thread steef

On 10-10-12 18:29, Lisi wrote:

I have a newly installed Debian 6.0.6 on my netbook.  I cannot get wi-fi
going.  I have checked the wi-fi card itself by booting a Live DVD.  It
connects fine on Ubuntu 12.04.

I have run various tests with the following results:
root@Cronos:/home/lisi# iwconfig
lono wireless extensions.

eth0  no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:off/any
   Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=0 dBm
   Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
   Encryption key:off
   Power Management:off

lisi@Cronos:~$ lsmod | grep ath5k
ath5k 104138  0
mac80211  123586  1 ath5k
ath 6018  1 ath5k
cfg80211   87645  3 ath5k,mac80211,ath
led_class   1757  1 ath5k
lisi@Cronos:~$
lisi@Cronos:~$ lsmod | grep ath9k
lisi@Cronos:~$

03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001
Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
 Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device e008
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
 Memory at 5520 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
 Capabilities:access denied
 Kernel driver in use: ath5k

wicd has been a bit problematic since I installed it.  It took various
adjustments before it got to this stage.

I have never had a problem of any kind with wicd before, and I have installed
it frequently.

I have Googled - which is how I got this far.  Each tiny step in sorting out
wicd took much Googling.

I have purged and reinstalled wicd.  I have dpkg-reconfigured it.

When I try to connect I get the message that no wireless connection is
available.  There are in fact 7 within easy wireless reach, one of them my
own, and my wireless router is currently about 9 inches away from the netbook
on the same desk.

Where do I go next??

Thanks,
Lisi




hi lisi,

maybe this link (if the atheros driver works; and that is the case) 
could be of some help.


http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Wicd


reg.,

steef


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Re: arp cache incomplete entries

2012-10-11 Thread staticsafe

On 11/10/2012 4:24 PM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:

Hi,

I've noticed that, often, after establishing a connection to the local
network, important entries in the ARP cache, such as that of my
nameserver, appear as 'incomplete' and have not an associated hardware
address. Connection to these hosts often fails.

What are the possible reasons why this could happen? And is there any
way to repopulate the ARP cache without reconnecting? How is the ARP
cache populated in the first place?

Unfortunately, I often have to reset my router, and hence LAN
connections, because of problems with my ISP, so this problem appears
frequently.

Thanks,
Panayiotis




Your router usually is the one doing ARP requests (correct me please if 
I'm wrong) in the format:


Who has x.x.x.x? Tell x.x.x.x
with a response of
x.x.x.x is $macaddress

You can check this behaviour with a tool like Wireshark or tcpdump.

Perhaps this issue is caused by your frequent router resets?

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Re: Adding user to dual boot laptop

2012-10-11 Thread Gary Roach

On 10/11/2012 11:32 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2012-10-10, Gary Roachgary719_li...@verizon.net  wrote:
   

3. Permissions, owners and structure for files passwd, shadow and group
are exactly the same as my entries.

 

How about user home directory and other user file permissions (which
shouldn't belong to root)?


   
That has been checked out and is all OK. The alt F2 to kdesu did allow 
me to open the system settings as root but didn't help the problem. I 
have another single boot system running squeeze that works just fine. I 
wonder if there is something unique about the Toshiba Qosmio or the dual 
boot factor; although I can't imagine what. If anyone has any further 
suggestions between now and sunday evening I would like to hear them. 
After that , I'll be off the air for about 3 weeks.


Gary R.


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Re: arp cache incomplete entries

2012-10-11 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:33:13 -0400
staticsafe m...@staticsafe.ca wrote:

 On 11/10/2012 4:24 PM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I've noticed that, often, after establishing a connection to the local
  network, important entries in the ARP cache, such as that of my
  nameserver, appear as 'incomplete' and have not an associated hardware
  address. Connection to these hosts often fails.
 
  What are the possible reasons why this could happen? And is there any
  way to repopulate the ARP cache without reconnecting? How is the ARP
  cache populated in the first place?
 
  Unfortunately, I often have to reset my router, and hence LAN
  connections, because of problems with my ISP, so this problem appears
  frequently.
 
  Thanks,
  Panayiotis
 
 
 
 Your router usually is the one doing ARP requests (correct me please if 
 I'm wrong) in the format:
 
 Who has x.x.x.x? Tell x.x.x.x
 with a response of
 x.x.x.x is $macaddress

I'm no expert, but my impression is that any machine which is asked to
connect to some other host by IP address will issue such an ARP
request, so if I do 'ping x.x.x.x', and x.x.x.x has not been recently
in contact with my machine, my machine will issue an ARP request.

Celejar


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Re: arp cache incomplete entries

2012-10-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday, October 11, 2012 08:47:37 PM Celejar wrote:
 
 I'm no expert, but my impression is that any machine which is asked to
 connect to some other host by IP address will issue such an ARP
 request, so if I do 'ping x.x.x.x', and x.x.x.x has not been recently
 in contact with my machine, my machine will issue an ARP request.

Recall that all ethernet communication (layer 2) is done using MAC addresses. 
Also recall that point-to-point links do not use ARP.

A little more specifically, if the IP-MAC translation entry is not in the 
cache, the host will issue the ARP request. If the address is not on the local 
LAN, the host will issue an ARP request for the appropriate gateway.


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can't hear any sound ...

2012-10-11 Thread Albretch Mueller
 and this is what it is installed
~
$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: IXP [ATI IXP], device 0: ATI IXP AC97 [ATI IXP AC97]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: IXP [ATI IXP], device 1: ATI IXP IEC958 [ATI IXP IEC958 (AC97)]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

$ for x in /proc/asound/*; do echo $x:; cat $x; done
/proc/asound/card0:
cat: /proc/asound/card0: Is a directory
/proc/asound/cards:
 0 [IXP]: ATIIXP - ATI IXP
  ATI IXP rev 1 with ALC655 at 0xfe02a000, irq 17
/proc/asound/devices:
  1:: sequencer
  2: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
  3: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
  4: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
  5: [ 0]   : control
 33:: timer
/proc/asound/IXP:
cat: /proc/asound/IXP: Is a directory
/proc/asound/oss:
cat: /proc/asound/oss: Is a directory
/proc/asound/pcm:
00-00: ATI IXP AC97 : ATI IXP AC97 : playback 1 : capture 1
00-01: ATI IXP IEC958 : ATI IXP IEC958 (AC97) : playback 1
/proc/asound/seq:
cat: /proc/asound/seq: Is a directory
/proc/asound/timers:
G0: system timer : .333us (1000 ticks)
G3: HR timer : 0.001us (10 ticks)
P0-0-0: PCM playback 0-0-0 : SLAVE
P0-0-1: PCM capture 0-0-1 : SLAVE
P0-1-0: PCM playback 0-1-0 : SLAVE
/proc/asound/version:
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.

if I try to watch a video with mplayer I get

...

Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 192.0 kbit/13.60% (ratio: 23999-176400)
Selected audio codec: [ffaac] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio))

AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused
Failed to initialize audio driver 'pulse'
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
...

~
 What would you suggest?
~
 thanks
 lbrtchx


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Re: can't hear any sound ...

2012-10-11 Thread Mike O
Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com writes:

  and this is what it is installed
 ~
 $ aplay -l
  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
 card 0: IXP [ATI IXP], device 0: ATI IXP AC97 [ATI IXP AC97]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 card 0: IXP [ATI IXP], device 1: ATI IXP IEC958 [ATI IXP IEC958 (AC97)]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

 $ for x in /proc/asound/*; do echo $x:; cat $x; done
 /proc/asound/card0:
 cat: /proc/asound/card0: Is a directory
 /proc/asound/cards:
  0 [IXP]: ATIIXP - ATI IXP
   ATI IXP rev 1 with ALC655 at 0xfe02a000, irq 17
 /proc/asound/devices:
   1:: sequencer
   2: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
   3: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
   4: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
   5: [ 0]   : control
  33:: timer
 /proc/asound/IXP:
 cat: /proc/asound/IXP: Is a directory
 /proc/asound/oss:
 cat: /proc/asound/oss: Is a directory
 /proc/asound/pcm:
 00-00: ATI IXP AC97 : ATI IXP AC97 : playback 1 : capture 1
 00-01: ATI IXP IEC958 : ATI IXP IEC958 (AC97) : playback 1
 /proc/asound/seq:
 cat: /proc/asound/seq: Is a directory
 /proc/asound/timers:
 G0: system timer : .333us (1000 ticks)
 G3: HR timer : 0.001us (10 ticks)
 P0-0-0: PCM playback 0-0-0 : SLAVE
 P0-0-1: PCM capture 0-0-1 : SLAVE
 P0-1-0: PCM playback 0-1-0 : SLAVE
 /proc/asound/version:
 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.

 if I try to watch a video with mplayer I get

 ...
 
 Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
 AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 192.0 kbit/13.60% (ratio: 23999-176400)
 Selected audio codec: [ffaac] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio))
 
 AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused
 Failed to initialize audio driver 'pulse'
 AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
 ...

 ~
  What would you suggest?

Is your user in the audio group? Can root play sounds? 




 ~
  thanks
  lbrtchx


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Re: [OT] dhcpd and always-broadcast

2012-10-11 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Panayiotis Karabassis
pan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 10/11/2012 07:51 AM, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Panayiotis Karabassis pan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hey,

 I have an OT question about the always-broadcast option of the dhcpd server.

 Based on the Wikipedia article, all DHCP messages to the client are sent
 to the broadcast address. This makes sense, since the UDP protocol used
 by DHCP runs on top of the IP protocol, and the client does not have an
 IP address until the DHCP negotiation is completed.

 So, what is the use of this option? Under what circumstances should the
 server not broadcast its messages?


 In a DHCP request, a client can choose to say that it does not need
 responses to be broadcast.  There is a broadcast bit in the DHCP
 request that the client can turn off.  The always-broadcast option for
 the DHCP server says that the server should ignore the unset broadcast
 bit and always broadcast the response.

 How does the client receive a unicast response, you ask?  The response
 will still have the client's hardware address (MAC address).  So the
 response will reach the client's interface.

 It seems, though, that this functionality is not often used.  Clients
 always seem to set the broadcast bit, even if they will be able to
 receive a unicast response.  I had a problem recently, where some
 random malfunctioning device on a network was seeing random DHCP
 responses intended for someone else and assigning the offered address
 to itself.  I had to patch dhcpd to ignore the broadcast bit and
 always send a unicast response (a never-broadcast option).  It
 worked surprisingly well.


 Thanks! I had the reverse problem. My android device (apparently
 android's dhcp client is buggy) would not receive the dhcp assignments
 even though the server would send them.

 Had the malfunctioning device requested an address in the first place? I
 think in any case it should not happen, because -I think- the DHCP
 packets include a 'transaction' field, by means of which a client can
 distinguish whether the packet is intended for it or not.


It may have requested an address.  Truth be told, I did not
investigate the matter further after I hacked my way around it.

 So, UDP packets can be sent to MAC addresses? I was confused because in
 the Wikipedia article, IP addresses where shown in the headers.

Remember, the client does not actually have any IP address assigned to
its interface.  So, it will not care at all what shows up in the UDP
header's destination field.  The MAC address is used by the
intermediate switches to guide the packet.  The clients network
interface will of course pick up the ethernet frame because it has its
MAC address on it.  Meanwhile the DHCP client is waiting for packets
to show up on UDP port 68, and it does not particularly care what the
destination IP address is set in the UDP header.

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kushal


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