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Salut liste,

désolé de polluer avec ça, mais ça parait quand même important:
https://secure.avaaz.org/fr/fr_touche_pas_a_mon_internet/

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Re: à signer

2012-12-11 Thread Olivier Lange

Le 11 décembre 2012 17:05, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit :
 Salut liste,

 désolé de polluer avec ça, mais ça parait quand même important:
 https://secure.avaaz.org/fr/fr_touche_pas_a_mon_internet/

OUR APOLOGIES! THIS LINK DID NOT WORK.

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Voila le mail qui devrait avoir les bons liens pour la pétition

Fait chier, quand j'ai envoyé le 1er le lien était bon:(

Celui-là est plus intéressant parce qu'il contient des liens vers
des articles de presse portant sur la chose; à savoir une nouvelle
tentative des gouvernants de prendre le pouvoir sur le web.

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:06:18 -0500
From: Avaaz.org av...@avaaz.org
To: lazyvi...@gmx.com
Subject: Faites passer le mot pour sauver Internet

Merci d'avoir agi pour empêcher des gouvernements de censurer Internet.Envoyez
le mail ci-dessous à tous vos proches, et postez ce lien sur votre mur
Facebook:http://www.avaaz.org/fr/fr_touche_pas_a_mon_internet/?tAzNQcbMerci
encore pour votre aide, L'équipe d'Avaaz.

Chères amies, chers amis
d’Avaaz, En ce moment même se tient à Dubaï une conférence de l’ONU mais des
régimes autoritaires tentent d’imposer un contrôle gouvernemental total sur
Internet par le biais d’un traité international contraignant. S’ils
réussissent, Internet pourrait devenir moins ouvert, plus cher et plus lent.
Nous n’avons que deux jours pour les arrêter.Internet est, depuis sa création,
un incroyable outil d’expression et de contre-pouvoir citoyen: il nous permet
de discuter, d’échanger nos idées et d’exercer une pression sur les dirigeants
politiques avec une ampleur inédite. Cela s’explique simplement: Internet est
régi par ses utilisateurs et des associations à but non lucratif, pas par des
gouvernements. Mais aujourd’hui, des pays comme la Russie, la Chine et les
Émirats Arabes Unis tentent de réécrire un important traité, le RTI (Règlement
des télécommunications internationales). Le web serait alors soumis aux
gouvernements et non plus à nous, ses utilisateurs. Tim Berners Lee, l’un des «
pères » d’Internet, a souligné que ce traité pourrait intensifier la censure et
mettre fin à notre vie privée. Notre mobilisation par cette pétition vient
renforcer qui se battent contre ce hold-up. Nous sommes déjà parvenus à contrer
ce type de menaces à nos libertés. Nous pouvons à nouveau y parvenir avant la
révision du traité. L’opposition s’organise. Signez cette pétition pour dire:
«Touche pas à mon Internet!» Envoyez cet e-mail à toutes les personnes que vous
connaissez. Notre appel sera remis directement à tous les délégués présents à
la
conférence :http://www.avaaz.org/fr/fr_touche_pas_a_mon_internet/?tAzNQcbCette
rencontre destinée à réviser le RTI est organisée par un organe de l’ONU,
l’Union internationale des télécommunications (UIT). Mais la Russie, la Chine,
l’Arabie saoudite et d’autres pays tentent de saisir cette opportunité pour
renforcer leur contrôle d’Internet par le biais de mesures pour faciliter les
coupures, restreindre la confidentialité, légitimer le traçage et les blocages
et taxer l’accès à certains contenus en ligne.Aujourd’hui, il n’existe pas
d’organe réglementaire pour Internet: plusieurs organisations à but non
lucratif travaillent ensemble pour gérer les différents intérêts
technologiques, commerciaux et politiques et faire tourner la machine. Ce
modèle n’est certes pas sans défauts: la domination américaine et l’influence
des entreprises ne font que souligner le besoin de réformes, mais ces
changements ne doivent pas être dictés par les États. Ils doivent naître d’un
processus ouvert et transparent, créé par les utilisateurs et pour les
utilisateurs.L’UIT effectue un travail très important, allant de la baisse des
coûts d’accès pour les pays pauvres à la sécurisation des réseaux, mais les
propositions qui sont en train de voir le jour ne doivent pas lui être
confiées. Internet doit rester libre et régi par ses utilisateurs. Montrons à
l’UIT et au monde entier que nous ne resterons pas silencieux. Cliquez
ci-dessous pour signer et parlez-en à tous vos
proches :http://www.avaaz.org/fr/fr_touche_pas_a_mon_internet/?tAzNQcbLes
membres d’Avaaz ont déjà réussi à préserver la liberté du web. Plus de 3
millions d’entre nous ont demandé aux États-Unis d’abandonner une loi
permettant au gouvernement de fermer un site à sa guise. Grâce à nous, la
Maison-Blanche a cessé de soutenir la loi. En Europe, le Parlement européen
écouté les 2,8 millions de membres qui lui demandaient la suppression d’ACTA,
une autre menace à la liberté. Ensemble, nous pouvons gagner à nouveau. Avec
espoir, Pascal, Ian, Paul, Luca, Caroline, Ricken, Kya et toute l’équipe
d’Avaaz 
POUR EN SAVOIR PLUS
Conférence mondiale des télécoms: faut-il craindre
pour l'internet ? (France TV)
http://www.francetvinfo.fr/conference-mondiale-des-telecoms-faut-il-craindre-pour-l-internet_180505.html
L'avenir d'Internet se négocie à Dubaï (Le Figaro)
http://www.lefigaro.fr/hightech/2012/12/03/01007-20121203ARTFIG00379-l-avenir-d-internet-se-negocie-a-dubai.phpNet
neutralité : une table ronde à Bercy fin janvier (La
Tribune)http://www.latribune.fr/technos-medias/internet/20121207trib000735867/net-neutralite-une-table-ronde-a-bercy-fin-janvier.htmlQui
contrôle Internet (Le

Re: à signer

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:40:31 +0100
Olivier Lange olang...@gmail.com wrote:

 OUR APOLOGIES! THIS LINK DID NOT WORK.

Merde, ça marchait au moment où j'ai expédié le mail;
je renvoie l'email de réponse avec les liens articles.

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Re: à signer

2012-12-11 Thread Yann Coleu - Free Opensource Mail

Due to high traffic, not all Avaaz website functions are currently  
available. We are working hard to get the site back to its awesomeness as  
soon as possible.


Dommage ;)

Le Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:05:01 +0100, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit:


Salut liste,

désolé de polluer avec ça, mais ça parait quand même important:
https://secure.avaaz.org/fr/fr_touche_pas_a_mon_internet/




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Re: Voila le mail qui devrait avoir les bons liens pour la pétition

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:52:18 +0100
Gaël gag...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello !
 
 Par contre, ça me fait rire qu'ils parlent de la censure, de la neutralité,
 toussa... et qu'ils disent postez sur votre mur facebook...
 
 LAWL :)
 
 /troll

gros troll poilu

Ça, mon cher, c'est la nouvelle presse, celle qui se déclare libre
et indépendante quand son patron (ou son groupe, ou la majorité de
ses actionnaires) fait partie des multinationales les plus nauséabondes
(maaais cela ne les... regarde pas).

Pour la presse comme pour le reste, Coluche est plus que jamais d'actualité:
et dire qu'il suffirait qu'on l'achète pas pour que ça ne se vende pas.
Les gens sont très cons, parce que s'ils réfléchissaient à cette simple
phrase et l'appliquait, le monde changerait (vite, très très vite).

Et c'est justement l'objet de cette pétition, que ces gens-là ne touchent
pas à notre ternet (ou alors pour se le tailler en pointe et... le reste;)

/gros troll poilu

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Re: à signer

2012-12-11 Thread jpb

Le mardi 11 décembre 2012 à 20:51 +0100, Yann Coleu - Free Opensource
Mail a écrit :
 Due to high traffic, not all Avaaz website functions are currently  
 available. We are working hard to get the site back to its awesomeness as  
 soon as possible.
 
 Dommage ;)
 
 Le Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:05:01 +0100, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit:
 
  Salut liste,
 
  désolé de polluer avec ça, mais ça parait quand même important:
  https://secure.avaaz.org/fr/fr_touche_pas_a_mon_internet/
 
 
 
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Re: [HS] clavier et souris sans fil Unifying Logitech

2012-12-11 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER

Le Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:47:37 +0100
tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit:

 On 11/12/2012 02:25, Ro Bo wrote:
  Le 2012-12-10 18:14, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
  Bonjour,
 
  Est-ce que les claviers, souris ou ensembles clavier/souris sans fil
  Unifying
  de Logitech fonctionnent complètement sous Debian ou bien est-ce que ça
  utilise un pilote Windows ?
 
  Gaëtan
 
  Bonsoir!
 
  J'ai le modèle K360 de Logitech depuis plusieurs mois et ça fonctionne
  bien 99% du temps sur les 4-5 distributions installées, Debian et Ubuntu .
 
  La où ça flanche c'est lors de l'installation avec les 2 derniers
  debian-installer de la prochaine stable; ça fonctionne durant la
  sélection initiale mais on perd la main par la suite. Et de temps à
  autre lors d'un démarrage régulier. Agaçant ça d'ailleurs; il faut avoir
  une souris standard à côté pour redémarrer...
 
  Roger
 
 
 J'utilise des souris de ce type, et un trackball sans problème depuis 
 environ un an et demi (Debian Wheezy amd64). Par contre jusqu’à 
 maintenant il fallait utiliser un récepteur/périphérique, pour unifier 
 plusieurs périphériques c'était Windows only. Le support arrive sous 
 Linux, en plus du lien que tu cites :
 
 http://julien.danjou.info/blog/2012/logitech-unifying-upower
 
 Mais il va peut-être falloir attendre un peu.
 

Bon ça semble en bonne voie. Merci pour le lien.

Gaëtan

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Re: Problème d'affichage en lecture vidéo

2012-12-11 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER

Le Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:20:50 +0100
Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit:

 On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:45:58 +0100
 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr wrote:
 
 Ça semble définitivement lié à la disparité de résols:
 http://forum.teamxbox.com/archive/index.php/t-563520.html
 

Oui effectivement ce soir j'ai fait l'essai en branchant uniquement la télé et
résultat aucun soucis ...
Par contre j'ai aussi fait l'essai depuis une autre machine sous Windows 7
avec une CG ATI HD5450 avec le même câble et aussi deux écrans (l'autre est en
1600x1200) et là je n'ai aucun soucis malgré la disparité de résolutions ...

Gaëtan

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Re: Problème d'affichage en lecture vidéo

On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:40:46 +0100
Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr wrote:

 
 Oui effectivement ce soir j'ai fait l'essai en branchant uniquement la télé et
 résultat aucun soucis ...
 Par contre j'ai aussi fait l'essai depuis une autre machine sous Windows 7
 avec une CG ATI HD5450 avec le même câble et aussi deux écrans (l'autre est en
 1600x1200) et là je n'ai aucun soucis malgré la disparité de résolutions ...

Difficile d'en être sûr et certain, les logs de w$ ça cause moins que ceux
de Linux…

Et il ne serait pas inintéressant de poser qq questions aux devs du driver
(comanksassfè, doukçavien, petonyrmédié:) histoire de savoir si c'est une
impossibilité physique (électronique, comme par exemple l'impossibilité
d'accéder au même moment à la même case RAM (dur à croire)) ou bien si ça
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Re: OT: un error lógico (Gnu/Linux+filesystem)de disco puede producir sectores defectuosos?

2012-12-11 Thread Felix Perez

El día 10 de diciembre de 2012 17:06, Cristian Mitchell
mitchell6...@gmail.com escribió:
El día 10 de diciembre de 2012 16:40, Flako subfo...@gmail.com escribió:
El día 10 de diciembre de 2012 13:05, Cristian Mitchell
mitchell6...@gmail.com escribió:
El día 10 de diciembre de 2012 09:26, Flako subfo...@gmail.com escribió:
El día 7 de diciembre de 2012 12:40, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
escribió:
El Fri, 07 Dec 2012 10:37:24 -0300, Flako escribió:

Te recomiendo que antes de nada analices el disco con la herramienta del
fabricante (ahora Seagate) y le pases el test largo. Si te da algún
error y el disco es nuevo y está en garantía, gestiona un RMA y que te
manden uno nuevo.

Si el test no detecta fallos, los errores que mencionas pueden ser
debidos a factor externos: cables y conexiones del disco en mal estado
(doblados, forzados o partidos), fuente de alimentación, placa base,
voltajes... tendrías que descartar uno a uno estos elementos.

Por último, quedaría un error/problema de software. Probar con un kernel
nuevo sería una posible opción para descartar alguna incompatibilidad
entre la controladora del disco duro y el driver utilizado (libata, ahci,
etc...).

Hola Camaleón
Me puse a buscar con mas detalle los errores y puede ser un tema de
kernel con el disco.
De cierta forma los errores son genéricos, pero es como que hay veo en
google una cierta similitud en algunas cosas.
Voy a ver si cambio kernel y veo si se repite.

Saludos.

Hola
si estas suponiendo que es el kernel o el file system
por que no pones las versiones y tipos que estas usando

un disco nuevo no te olvides que puede aver golpeado en el traslado
el error cuando comenzo
justo antes de comezar paso algo diferente
corte de suministro electrico
la maquina que fuente tiene
pudiste probar el disco en otra maquina y en la maquina pudiste probar
otro disco
y si podes cambia cables de datos y aliemntacion
la fuente es grande y de marca
con estos datos podemos ver de donde vien el problema

saludos

Hala Cristian
El kernel es 2.6.32, y por el disco es lo que pensé (que estuviese ya
roto), por eso lo remplace por uno que verifique antes. pero el disco
parece no estar roto..
Por el hardware es un servidor HP DL120 G5 y como esta en producción
no puedo jugar mucho..
Por ahora voy a dejar el tema en standby, a esperar si falla de nuevo.

Gracias a todos.
Saludos.

Controlate que no haya condiciones externas como fallas electricas
temperatura etc

Que un técnico en electricidad verifique la tierra de protección y
servicio en la instalación eléctrica, la cual supongo es exclusiva del
sistema informático. Revisa que nadie haya conectado; cafeteras,
hervidores, calentadores o enfriadores a la red eléctrica.
Recuerdo de un equipo especialmente sensible a fluctuaciones
eléctricas en una red que verifiqué hace unos años.

Suerte.

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Re: OpenVZ - Pasaje de venet a veth

2012-12-11 Thread Cristian Mitchell

El día 11 de diciembre de 2012 07:38, ciracusa cirac...@gmail.com escribió:
Cristian Mitchell wrote:

2012/12/5 ciracusa cirac...@gmail.com:

Camaleón wrote:

El Tue, 04 Dec 2012 11:23:13 -0200, ciracusa escribió:

(...)

Será que falta montar un bride entre el VETH del contenedor y la IP
del host anfitrión?

Pues mira que no he usado nunca el OpenVZ ese pero de tanto leerlo por
aquí ya me está picando la curiosidad :-)

A ver, el VirtualBox tendrías que definir la interfaz en modo puente,
efectivamente, y en OpenVZ... pues vamos a leer:

http://wiki.openvz.org/Virtual_Ethernet_device

(...) When veth is bridged to a CT0 network interface (e.g., eth0), the
container can act as an independent host on the network. The container's
user can set up all of the networking himself, including IPs, gateways,
etc.

Pues parece que sí.

Saludos,

Camaleon, estoy siguiendo el tuto que me decías hasta que llego a este
punto:

Independent Virtual Ethernet communication through the bridge

Bridging a CT interface to a CT0 interface is the magic that allows the
CT
to be an independent host on the network with its own IP address,
gateway,
etc. CT0 does not need any configuration for forwarding packets to the CT
or
performing proxy arp for the CT or event the routing.

To manually configure a bridge and add devices to it, perform steps 1 - 4
from Simple configuration chapter for several containers and/or veth
devices
using FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF as a CT0 veth side MAC address and then follow
these
steps.

Ahora bien luego indica:

[host-node]# brctl addbr vzbr0

Y luego:

[host-node]# brctl addif vzbr0 veth101.0

Aquí es donde no comprendo veth101.0

Esto es una interface creada en el CT0 (host-node) o en el CT101?

Bueno, espero haber sido claro :/

MUchas Gracias.

Saludos.

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Ciracusa no creas quese desvirtua el hilo
es untema importante que le puede pasar a cualquiera

en openvz podes crear una archivo de ejecucion en el inicio asi

/etc/vz/conf/$id.mount

y relacionado con un script

/etc/vz/conf/$id.sh

Cristian, gracias por tu respuesta.

No logro comprender la relación de tu respuesta con lo que yo consultaba?

(Te escribo a tu privado para no generar controversias que -como siempre-
hagan que el hilo se caiga).

Muchas Gracias.

Saludos.

cuando te repgunte por los archivos de configuracion, vos me
preguntaste si abia mas , o algo presido (no recuerdo bien la
pregunta)
entonces te aclare que se podian usar este tipo de archivos
por que yo los uso para levantar la configuracion de red de la virtual
por que lo que te deve estar faltando son las configuracion de bridge
que las podes poner en estos archivos de configuracion

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Telnet dentro de telnet me mata el cursor

2012-12-11 Thread adriancito


Buenos días.

Les consulto por si a alguien le pasó:

Tengo un equipo con Debian Lenny desde el cual me conecto por telnet (ya 
se que no es seguro, pero es el único protocolo que soporta el 
dispositivo destino), a un dispositivo destino (llamado destino1).


Del mismo (destino1), llego a su consola y hago un nuevo telnet a otro 
dispositivo llamado destino2.


La cuestión es que cuando llego a dispositivo2 no me aparece el cursor.

Este es el gráfico:

Debian - Dispositivo1 - Dispositivo2

El tema es que llego a la consola de dispositivo2 pero no me aparece 
el cursor para poder ingresar.


A alguien le paso algo similar?

Muchas Gracias.

Saludos.


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Re: No aparece el selector remoto XDMCP

El Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:49:47 +0100, Javier Silva escribió:

 El día 10 de diciembre de 2012 18:40, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El Sun, 09 Dec 2012 21:18:29 +0100, Javier Silva escribió:
 
 Recuerdo una pregunta similar en la lista inglesa de Debian de hace ya
 algunos meses y al menos por aquel entonces no recuerdo que el usuario
 encontrara una solución al problema pero gdm3 estaba aún en pañales,
 por así decirlo, desconozco si ya es posible hacer esto :-?


 Hola Camaleón,
 he visto tu respuesta, uno de los enlaces que enviaste, es el mismo que
 pongo en la pregunta y el otro, es para versiones anteriores, con lo que
 no parece que salga con este tema, pero gracias.
 
 Aquí tienes el enlace de una de los hilos de la lista que mencionas:
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02306.html

Ah, sí... debe ser ese (ha pasado ya un año, madre mía).
 
 El otro que leí, llevaba 2 enlaces, además del anterior.
 
 También veo que al iniciar con Xephyr en el cliente, la ventana aparece
 en modo fallback de GNOME, con lo que tampoco parece que me vaya a
 servir.

Si no has encontrado ninguna solución quizá es que aún no lo hayan 
resuelto porque debe ser una petición bastante común por parte de los 
usuarios.

Una preguntonta... ¿te permite introducir manualmente el usuario remoto 
con el que quieres iniciar la sesión?

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debian custom

2012-12-11 Thread francisco cid

Hola, muy buenos días, los saluda Francisco desde Chile, mi consulta
es si podría hacer el Debian que tengo instalado en un computador,
instalable, con todas las modificaciones que éste tiene, incluyendo
una compilación que hice a mano, el sistema va a ser instalado en un
laboratorio, son todos los computadores con el mismo hardware. uso
Debian wheezy, amd64, gnome3, y muchas herramientas de desarrollo y
testeo. y si es posible también como poder modificar las imágenes del
grub para que salga el nombre de mi institución. saludos!


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Re: Proxy offline

El Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:40:47 -0600, Francisco Eduardo Ascencio Dominguez
escribió:

(bufff, vaya formato de correo... debe ser cosa del webmail del 
demonio :-/)

  pero puedo poner la reglas temporal ?
 
 Sí, pero:
 
 a) Tendrás que cargarlas cada vez que inicies el equipo o no podrás
 navegar.
 
 R= si pero para cargarlas al inicio primero debo saber cuales son las
 reglas correctas.

Pues hombre, las que te pone en las instrucciones que estás siguiendo, no 
tienes que inventar nada, salvo cambiar el rango de direcciones IP para 
adecuarlo al de tu red.

 b) Comprueba que efectivamente están cargadas porque tu lista de reglas
 está vacía.
 
 estoy ingresando en la consola  como root. iptables -t nat -A
 POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.5/25 -o eth1 -j SNAT --to 192.168.1.3iptables
 -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth2 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to
 192.168.1.3:3128iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 80
 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128 

(...)

Estooo ¿pero toso eso seguido, al mogollón? :-? 

Tienes que ejecutar:

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.5/25 -o eth1 -j SNAT --to 
192.168.1.3

Pulsa [Enter] y comprueba que la regla se haya añadido. Si es así, sigue con 
el resto.

Y oye, verifica que ese rango de direcciones sea el correcto porque en
el ejemplo que ponen en la web usan dos rangos distintos para cada tarjeta 
de red (eth0 → 192.168.1.x y eth1 → 10.10.10.x).

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[OT] Re: Telnet dentro de telnet me mata el cursor

El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:34:38 -0200, adriancito escribió:

 Buenos días.
 
 Les consulto por si a alguien le pasó:

Vale, pero márcalo como OT y así te curas en salud ;-)

 Tengo un equipo con Debian Lenny desde el cual me conecto por telnet (ya
 se que no es seguro, pero es el único protocolo que soporta el
 dispositivo destino), a un dispositivo destino (llamado destino1).

Bien.

 Del mismo (destino1), llego a su consola y hago un nuevo telnet a otro
 dispositivo llamado destino2.
 
 La cuestión es que cuando llego a dispositivo2 no me aparece el
 cursor.

Demasiado misterio para poder sugerirte algo. A ver, ¿de qué 
dispositivos estamos hablando exactamente? 

 Este es el gráfico:
 
 Debian - Dispositivo1 - Dispositivo2

¿No hay _nada_ entre los tres aparatos? ¿Y cómo están intercomunicados 
físicamente (mediante adaptadores de red, puerto serie, USB o algún 
conversor usb-serie de por medio...)?
 
 El tema es que llego a la consola de dispositivo2 pero no me aparece
 el cursor para poder ingresar.

Aunque no veas el cursor, siempre pulsa [Enter ↵] a ver si obtienes 
respuesta.
 
 A alguien le paso algo similar?

¿A qué dispositivos tienes acceso físicamente? Aparte de Debian, claro :-)

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Re: debian custom

El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:10:16 -0300, francisco cid escribió:

 Hola, muy buenos días, los saluda Francisco desde Chile, 

Saludos.

 mi consulta es si podría hacer el Debian que tengo instalado en un
 computador, instalable, con todas las modificaciones que éste tiene,
 incluyendo una compilación que hice a mano, el sistema va a ser
 instalado en un laboratorio, son todos los computadores con el mismo
 hardware. uso Debian wheezy, amd64, gnome3, y muchas herramientas de
 desarrollo y testeo. 

Puedes hacer una imagen del sistema completo con Clonezilla (o algún 
programa similar) y restaurar esa imagen en el resto de equipos. Si todo 
el hardware es igual (discos duros y tamaño de  particiones, etc...) 
apenas tendrás que modificar nada.

 y si es posible también como poder modificar las imágenes del grub para
 que salga el nombre de mi institución. saludos!

Puedes usar una imagen de fondo, aquí explican cómo hacerlo:

http://wiki.debian.org/Grub2

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Re: debian custom

2012-12-11 Thread Emiliano M. Rudenick


On 11/12/12 12:10, francisco cid wrote:

Hola, muy buenos días, los saluda Francisco desde Chile, mi consulta
es si podría hacer el Debian que tengo instalado en un computador,
instalable, con todas las modificaciones que éste tiene, incluyendo
una compilación que hice a mano, el sistema va a ser instalado en un
laboratorio, son todos los computadores con el mismo hardware. uso
Debian wheezy, amd64, gnome3, y muchas herramientas de desarrollo y
testeo. y si es posible también como poder modificar las imágenes del
grub para que salga el nombre de mi institución. saludos!


Yo uso partimage, muy bueno. Lo corres desde un live, creas la imagen y 
luego la restauras en las máquinas que quieras.


Saludos!


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Re: debian custom

2012-12-11 Thread oseargent...@gmail.com

El 11/12/12 12:10, francisco cid escribió:
 Hola, muy buenos días, los saluda Francisco desde Chile, mi consulta
 es si podría hacer el Debian que tengo instalado en un computador,
 instalable, con todas las modificaciones que éste tiene, incluyendo
 una compilación que hice a mano, el sistema va a ser instalado en un
 laboratorio, son todos los computadores con el mismo hardware. uso
 Debian wheezy, amd64, gnome3, y muchas herramientas de desarrollo y
 testeo. y si es posible también como poder modificar las imágenes del
 grub para que salga el nombre de mi institución. saludos!
 
 

hola francisco, estoy en un proyecto parecido; te cuento que por ahora
[0] la mejor herramienta que encontré para hacer esto es remastersys,
también uso whezzy para mi proyecto pero todavía no se llevan del todo
bien por unos problemas con el paquete live-initramfs si mal no
recuerdo, de todos modos podes hacer un backup de tu instalación
completa con todas las personalizaciones y te genera una iso que podes
usar como live-dvd e incluso instalarlo, el uso es EXTREMADAMENTE
SENCILLO!

actualmente el equipo de remasterys esta testeando la versión 3.0 para
que trabaje con whezzy, pero esta algo verde todavía aunque muy bien
encaminado

yo hago un poco de pinning entre squeeze y wheezy para mezclar los
paquetes live-* que necesita remastersys 2.0


la versión que estoy armando ahora de mi proyecto la quiero basar en
Debian-Live [2] estoy en eso ahora mismo

saludos espero te sirva la data


[0] http://www.remastersys.com/debian.html
[1] http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?topic=2511.0
[2] http://live.debian.net/


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Re: debian custom

2012-12-11 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

- Original Message - 
From: Emiliano M. Rudenick emr.deb...@gmail.com

To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: debian custom

On 11/12/12 12:10, francisco cid wrote:

Hola, muy buenos días, los saluda Francisco desde Chile, mi consulta
es si podría hacer el Debian que tengo instalado en un computador,
instalable, con todas las modificaciones que éste tiene, incluyendo
una compilación que hice a mano, el sistema va a ser instalado en un
laboratorio, son todos los computadores con el mismo hardware. uso
Debian wheezy, amd64, gnome3, y muchas herramientas de desarrollo y
testeo. y si es posible también como poder modificar las imágenes del
grub para que salga el nombre de mi institución. saludos!

Yo uso partimage, muy bueno. Lo corres desde un live, creas la imagen y 
luego la restauras en las máquinas que quieras.

Saludos!

Tengo un problema con eso, yo instalé una laptop nueva y le hice una imagen 
a la partición. Y restauré dicha imagen en otra laptop nueva para cuando la 
enciendo no encuentra el MBR para inicializar.

Como soluciono esto?

GRACIAS
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Problemas con el MBR tras restaurar imagen (era: debian custom)

El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:59:20 -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Ismael, no secuestres hilos, o al menos cambia el asunto del correo para 
indicar que estás hablando de otra cosa distinta de la del OP.

 Tengo un problema con eso, yo instalé una laptop nueva y le hice una
 imagen a la partición. Y restauré dicha imagen en otra laptop nueva para
 cuando la enciendo no encuentra el MBR para inicializar.

Supongo que hablas de Debian o al menos de linux... ¿y el mensaje 
exacto que recibes cuál es? ¿Y en qué fase te aparece?

 Como soluciono esto?

Pues normalmente (y digo normalmente porque sin saber el mensaje 
exacto que te aparece y con los pocos detalles que has puesto puede ser 
cualquier otra cosa...) se soluciona volviendo a reinstalar el gestor de 
arranque (GRUB/LILO o el que sea) en el equipo.

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[OT] Apache Proxy + VNC

2012-12-11 Thread Sergio Villalba

Hola a tod@s,

¿existe la posibilidad de montan un servidor linux con apache+mod
proxy configurado para acceder a un pc que tenga instalado VNC http?

lo único encontrado es esta url:
http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2002-January/027396.html

Gracias por todo,
Saludos.


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Re: Problemas con el MBR tras restaurar imagen (era: debian custom)

2012-12-11 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

- Original Message - 
From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com

To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:09 PM
Subject: Problemas con el MBR tras restaurar imagen (era: debian custom)

El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:59:20 -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Ismael, no secuestres hilos, o al menos cambia el asunto del correo para
indicar que estás hablando de otra cosa distinta de la del OP.

Tengo un problema con eso, yo instalé una laptop nueva y le hice una
imagen a la partición. Y restauré dicha imagen en otra laptop nueva para
cuando la enciendo no encuentra el MBR para inicializar.

Supongo que hablas de Debian o al menos de linux... ¿y el mensaje
exacto que recibes cuál es? ¿Y en qué fase te aparece?

Como soluciono esto?

Pues normalmente (y digo normalmente porque sin saber el mensaje
exacto que te aparece y con los pocos detalles que has puesto puede ser
cualquier otra cosa...) se soluciona volviendo a reinstalar el gestor de
arranque (GRUB/LILO o el que sea) en el equipo.

Saludos,

Si es debian, ya resolví como me indicaste.

Lo que la imagen de la partición no la hice con Linux.

GRACIAS
=
|| ISMAEL ||
=
PD: No pensé que estaba secuestrando el hilo, ya que giraba en el mismo 
tema.

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Re: No aparece el selector remoto XDMCP

2012-12-11 Thread Javier Silva

 Una preguntonta... ¿te permite introducir manualmente el usuario remoto
 con el que quieres iniciar la sesión?


Acabo de probarlo y al final de la lista aparece la opción Otro... tal
y como en local, la seleccionas y le pones el nombre de otro usuario,
su contraseña y listo.

La pantalla de login es idéntica a la que aparece en el server, con
excepción del botón que sirve para apagar, reiniciar, que en remoto,
sólo aparece la opción Disconnect.

Saludos,
Javier Silva.


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Repos sin índices

2012-12-11 Thread J.Alejandro Martinez Linares

Hola gente tengo un problemillla, me han dado un repo donde faltan los 
indices, como se generan esos indices? o sea lo que falta son los 
Packages.gz y Packages.bz2.


gracias de antemano

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Re: [OT] Re: duda servidore home dlna y multimedia

2012-12-11 Thread Javier Silva

 Fijate en esto para ver si te sirve.

 http://usemoslinux.blogspot.com/2012/03/streaming-en-linux-usando-dlna.html
 http://usemoslinux.blogspot.com/2012/11/gnulinux-y-minidlna-en-sony-braviar.html


Aunque no lo he probado, aprovecho para comentar que minidlna se
encuentra en los repositorios de Debian Wheezy, por lo que no hay que
compilar, tan sólo apt-get install minidlna.


 pero creo q alguien me puede ayudar quiero comprar un servidor casero
 multimedia y un reproductor para la casa por wifi y leer los archivos
 de musica desde el y tengo estas opciones no se si me sirvan para lo
 que quiero

 servidor es este producto D-Link DNS-320L


También soy partidario de montar mi propio equipo 'casero', pero si
tuviese que comprar uno, tal vez me inclinaría por el Synology, ya que
incorpora un software de gestión bastante bueno, aunque insisto, mejor
uno casero con una placa miniITX de bajo consumo y varios SATA.

Saludos,
Javier SIlva.


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Re: [OT] Re: Telnet dentro de telnet me mata el cursor

2012-12-11 Thread adriancito


Camaleón va entre tus líneas:

Camaleón wrote:

El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:34:38 -0200, adriancito escribió:
  

Tengo un equipo con Debian Lenny desde el cual me conecto por telnet (ya
se que no es seguro, pero es el único protocolo que soporta el
dispositivo destino), a un dispositivo destino (llamado destino1).



Bien.

  

Del mismo (destino1), llego a su consola y hago un nuevo telnet a otro
dispositivo llamado destino2.

La cuestión es que cuando llego a dispositivo2 no me aparece el
cursor.



Demasiado misterio para poder sugerirte algo. A ver, ¿de qué 
dispositivos estamos hablando exactamente? 
  
El dispositivo1 es una antena wireless que permite la conexión por 
telnet (no dispone de ssh).


El dispositivo2 es un multitoma que permite apagar y encender 
dispositivos a través de la red (solo tiene telnet no tiene ssh).
  

Este es el gráfico:

Debian - Dispositivo1 - Dispositivo2



¿No hay _nada_ entre los tres aparatos? ¿Y cómo están intercomunicados 
físicamente (mediante adaptadores de red, puerto serie, USB o algún 
conversor usb-serie de por medio...)?
  
No, una vez que me conecto a la antena (osea dispositivo1), ésta, como 
el dispositivo2 estan conectados por un hub/switch sin nada en el medio.
 
  

El tema es que llego a la consola de dispositivo2 pero no me aparece
el cursor para poder ingresar.



Aunque no veas el cursor, siempre pulsa [Enter ↵] a ver si obtienes 
respuesta.
  

:) Lo hice, pero nada!
 
  

A alguien le paso algo similar?



¿A qué dispositivos tienes acceso físicamente? Aparte de Debian, claro :-)

Saludos,

  

No entiendo esto?

Saludos.



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Re: mini servidor multimedia para mi hogar

2012-12-11 Thread Carlos Zuniga

2012/12/11 Edward Villarroel (EDD) edward.villarr...@gmail.com:
 Me pueden ayudar tengo un poryecto personal para el año que viene deseo
 crear un mini servidor multimedia para mi casa que debo comprar y que debian
 debo descargar con que librerias para q tenga servidor de web dlna das ftp
 etc y cualquier otro que me recomienden que ustedes le agregarian al de
 ustedes!! y compartir codigos y experiencia con ustedes!!! me recomedaron
 que con una mini ITX

Parece el trabajo perfecto para un RaspberryPi.

Saludos
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Re: Repos sin índices

2012-12-11 Thread jEsuSdA 8)


El 11/12/12 18:35, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió:

Hola gente tengo un problemillla, me han dado un repo donde faltan los
indices, como se generan esos indices? o sea lo que falta son los
Packages.gz y Packages.bz2.

gracias de antemano



Hola J.Alejandro,

Generalmente, para generar un archivo con índices se usan estos dos 
comandos:



# dpkg-scanpackages pool/main/ /dev/null  
dists/lenny/main/binary-i386/Packages


# gzip dists/lenny/main/binary-i386/Packages


Si te surgen dudas, hay un montón de info vía google si buscas algo como 
repositorio local.


Un saludo!
jEsuSdA 8)


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Re: mini servidor multimedia para mi hogar

2012-12-11 Thread jEsuSdA 8)


El 12/12/12 06:37, Carlos Zuniga escribió:

2012/12/11 Edward Villarroel (EDD)edward.villarr...@gmail.com:

Me pueden ayudar tengo un poryecto personal para el año que viene deseo
crear un mini servidor multimedia para mi casa que debo comprar y que debian
debo descargar con que librerias para q tenga servidor de web dlna das ftp
etc y cualquier otro que me recomienden que ustedes le agregarian al de
ustedes!! y compartir codigos y experiencia con ustedes!!! me recomedaron
que con una mini ITX


Parece el trabajo perfecto para un RaspberryPi.




Desde luego!
Sólo hay que instalarle raspbmc y ya tienes un mediacenter completito. ;)
http://www.raspbmc.com/

Salu2 de jEsuSdA 8)


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OFF-TOPIC - Qualificação do Software Público Brasileiro

2012-12-11 Thread Marcus Vinícius Liberani

Pessoal bom dia!
Achei interessante o projeto e o livro, mostrando aqui acredito que ajudaremos 
a divulgar o mesmo. 
 
http://www.softwarepublico.gov.br/spb/download/file/Perspectiva_Sistemica


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Re: Pedido de Entrevista

2012-12-11 Thread Flavio M Matsumoto

Não é por mal não, mas este endereço é uma lista de discussões e não
particular de uma pessoa, portanto na minha modesta opinião não caberia
conceder uma entrevista.

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[OT] O que há de errado com meu e-mail ?

2012-12-11 Thread Robson Dantas

Moderadores, o que há de errado com meu email, recebi esta notificação 
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Re: [OT] O que há de errado com meu e-mail ?

2012-12-11 Thread Flavio M Matsumoto

Olá, eu também já recebi esse e-mail e é uma coisa normal e geralmente
benigna.

Quando o servidor da lista do Debian tenta enviar um e-mail para você e
não consegue, isto é volta por alguma razão (quota de usuário
ultrapassada, seu servidor de e-mail caiu, etc), passa a mensagem abaixo.
Se a taxa de retornos for excessiva a sua inscrição é removida, mas acho
que este extremo só ocorre em caso que uma determinada conta de e-mail
deixa realmente de existir.

No seu caso, somente 1 de 49 mails retornou, isto é, somente 2% que é bem
abaixo de 80% que seria uma taxa preocupante (kick-score).

Desconsidere por enquanto, não deve ser nada de mais.
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Em Ter, Dezembro 11, 2012 2:01 pm, Robson Dantas escreveu:
 Moderadores, o que há de errado com meu email, recebi esta notificação
 abaixo e não entendo porque meu email está sendo usado em excesso se eu
 mal envio email para a lista!?

 Eu uso Linux e não Windows para que algum malware faça uso do meu email...

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 emailaddressmeulinux.deb...@gmail.com.

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Fwd: [OT] O que há de errado com meu e-mail ?

2012-12-11 Thread Ricardo Jorge Borges Guimarães

Também, recebi esse email
E a menos de 1 mês havia trocado minha senha do Google.

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From: Flavio M Matsumoto fmats...@ufpr.br
Date: 2012/12/11
Subject: Re: [OT] O que há de errado com meu e-mail ?
To: Robson Dantas meulinux.deb...@gmail.com
Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org

Olá, eu também já recebi esse e-mail e é uma coisa normal e geralmente
benigna.

Quando o servidor da lista do Debian tenta enviar um e-mail para você e
não consegue, isto é volta por alguma razão (quota de usuário
ultrapassada, seu servidor de e-mail caiu, etc), passa a mensagem abaixo.
Se a taxa de retornos for excessiva a sua inscrição é removida, mas acho
que este extremo só ocorre em caso que uma determinada conta de e-mail
deixa realmente de existir.

No seu caso, somente 1 de 49 mails retornou, isto é, somente 2% que é bem
abaixo de 80% que seria uma taxa preocupante (kick-score).

Desconsidere por enquanto, não deve ser nada de mais.
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Re: Pedido de Entrevista (CUIDADO)

2012-12-11 Thread Cleber Ianes

Tahhh, mas todos já perceberam que isso é um golpe, não?

Quem responder a ela terá seu endereço confirmado e ainda pode cair em um 
golpe, ela provavelmente irá pedir seus dados pessoais para lhe enviar um 
pagamento pela entrevista.


Cuidado aí pessoal.






 De: Flavio M Matsumoto fmats...@ufpr.br
Para: Maria Goldes mariagol...@gmail.com 
Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 11 de Dezembro de 2012 13:44
Assunto: Re: Pedido de Entrevista
 
Não é por mal não, mas este endereço é uma lista de discussões e não
particular de uma pessoa, portanto na minha modesta opinião não caberia
conceder uma entrevista.

Atenciosamente,
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Em Ter, Dezembro 11, 2012 12:04 pm, Maria Goldes escreveu:
 ï»¿OlÃ¡!
 Eu sou Maria Goldes, jornalista da UniÃ£o Mundial da indÃºstria de TI
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Re: [OT] O que há de errado com meu e-mail ?

2012-12-11 Thread Alberto Y. Fujihira

As pessoas que receberam essa mensagem tem conta no gmail.
Talvez esteja relacionado com os problemas que ocorreram recentemente nos
serviços do Google, como mostra o Google Apps Dashboard (link abaixo).

http://www.google.com.br/appsstatus#hl=pt-BRv=statusts=1355258453581


2012/12/11 Flavio M Matsumoto fmats...@ufpr.br

 Olá, eu também já recebi esse e-mail e é uma coisa normal e geralmente
 benigna.

 Quando o servidor da lista do Debian tenta enviar um e-mail para você e
 não consegue, isto é volta por alguma razão (quota de usuário
 ultrapassada, seu servidor de e-mail caiu, etc), passa a mensagem abaixo.
 Se a taxa de retornos for excessiva a sua inscrição é removida, mas acho
 que este extremo só ocorre em caso que uma determinada conta de e-mail
 deixa realmente de existir.

 No seu caso, somente 1 de 49 mails retornou, isto é, somente 2% que é bem
 abaixo de 80% que seria uma taxa preocupante (kick-score).

 Desconsidere por enquanto, não deve ser nada de mais.
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 Em Ter, Dezembro 11, 2012 2:01 pm, Robson Dantas escreveu:
  Moderadores, o que há de errado com meu email, recebi esta notificação
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  mal envio email para a lista!?
 
  Eu uso Linux e não Windows para que algum malware faça uso do meu
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  In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
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1 bounce out of 49 mails in 7 days (2%, kick-score is 80%)
(http://lists.debian.org/bounces/lx0SLKplj7hVw7r6dSePGQ)
 
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Bloquear TOR Vidalia no squid

2012-12-11 Thread thiago

Tenho uma rede com proxy setado no browser não autenticado e alguns
usuários estão usando o TOR vidalia para navegar. Esse software é uma
praga, se configurar o proxy no proprio TOR ele funciona mas não loga
nada no proxy. Alguém já conseguiu bloquear-lo?


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Re: Bloquear TOR Vidalia no squid

2012-12-11 Thread Ricardo César

Amigo, tenta descobrir qual porta ele utiliza para conectar na rede e bloqueia 
ela no firewall.
Dependendo da porta que ele utilizar é bem fácil de resolver seu problema.


 
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Para: Debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 11 de Dezembro de 2012 15:22
Assunto: Bloquear TOR Vidalia no squid
 
Tenho uma rede com proxy setado no browser não autenticado e alguns
usuários estão usando o TOR vidalia para navegar. Esse software é uma
praga, se configurar o proxy no proprio TOR ele funciona mas não loga
nada no proxy. Alguém já conseguiu bloquear-lo?


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Re: shell colorido para root

2012-12-11 Thread Éverton Arruda

É só copiar a linha que contem 'PS1=…' do arquivo .bashrc do seu usuário
para /etc/bash.bashrc. Depois logar como root.
Em 11/12/2012 21:22, Logicus logi...@uol.com.br escreveu:

 boa noite amigos,

 como faço para deixar o shell do root colorido como de usuário comum?
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 *Logicus*
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Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!

2012-12-11 Thread Brad Rogers

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:15:18 +0200
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Andrei,

Could you please tell me what makes it a multiarch package?

The skype web site download page labels it as multiarch, that's all I
know.

{snipped}
As far as I can tell this is a plain i386 packages. Besides (haven't 
read the multiarch specification), I don't think applications need any 
conversion. One just needs to activate the proper architecture(s) and 

Previous .amd64 versions depended on ia32 libs packages, so that seems
to be the main (only?) difference.

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Re: Several questions regarding compiled web server (/usr/local)

2012-12-11 Thread - -

Hello Bob

Thank you for your very good explanation! I could not find anything
nearly as good as this in the internet!

Another question came up while reading your message:
Wouldn't it then be better to give ownership of '/usr/local/var/lib/cherokee'
to 'www-data:staff', instead of 'root:www-data'? That way 'staff' would still
have access to that folder, while 'www-data' would be possible to read
and write in that directory?

Another solution would be adding user 'www-data' to group 'staff', but
I presume that Cherokee (or any other software) would be access to files the
service should not care about?

I would be happy if you would clarify.

Kind Regards

- S.






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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: Several questions regarding compiled web server (/usr/local)

- - wrote:
 it's the first time I am not using Debian packages and
 I have several questions regarding the correct use of
 paths and permissions. Cherokee runs under www-data:www-data.

I have no experience with Cherokee but let me try to help with the
issues and questions in general.

 I build Cherokee Web Server from source and there are
 some differences between that and the package installation:

Sure.

   -  Package: Uses /etc/cherokee/cherokee.conf  and /var/www
   -   Source: Uses /usr/local/etc/cherokee.conf and /usr/local/var/www
   - Question: While somehow the path of the config file looks
               reasonable, I am not sure if it's common practice
               to have the www-dir in /usr/local?

It is general practice that packaged things go in /etc and /usr such
as /etc/$pkgname, /usr/bin and /usr/lib while locally compiled
software would go into /usr/local such as /usr/local/etc/$pkgname,
/usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib.  That is the general default values
for 99.44% of all configuration scripts.  If you grab the source to
almost any package and compile it then a location down /usr/local is
what you would expect to get from a self-compiled package.  That is
okay.

But you as the local administrator for your system are allowed to make
your own decisions about the location for the installation.  You may
choose to put it elsewhere.  That is okay too.  You could choose to
install it in /etc and /usr for your own package.  That is okay.  But
it is also a little bit harder to keep local stuff separate from
system stuff and so many people will choose a different location.  A
different location like the default /usr/local to keep them separate
but if that isn't desired then some people would put these in the /opt
and /var/opt trees.  Others would put it in the /srv/ (services) tree.
Those locations would be okay too.  It is an arbitrary choice and you
are okay if you choose something unique to your system.  It is your
system to craft as you wish.

On Debian the /usr/local tree is nice because it is group writable by
the 'staff' user.  If you put yourself in the staff group then you can
read, write, modify files in that directory tree as the group staff
and then you do not need root to work there.  I think that is safer
when compiling and installing software from source.  (I also find
'adm' to be useful to be able to view system logs so I will suggest it
here too even if it isn't related to 'staff' nor /usr/local.)

  # adduser USER staff  # replace USER with your account name
  # adduser USER adm

Then make sure to log out and log back in again.  Groups are only
assigned to your process at login time.  If you have already logged in
then you won't get the additional groups.  Log out and then log back
in again after making the above change.

Then you will have the permissions to do this with most software
packages that use a standard configure-make process.

  $ ./configure
  $ make
  $ make check
  $ make install
  $ make uninstall

And if you are not root at those times then you can be assured that if
there is a bug in the Makefile then it won't be able to damage the
rest of your system because it won't have permissions for any file
outside of /usr/local.  Therefore I believe it to be safer.

   -  Package: Had access to some graphs in /var/lib/somewhere.
               Can't remember but it just worked.

Too vague.  Could be anything.  But /var/lib/pkgname is the standard
system location for writable data from packages.

   -   Source: Now accesses /usr/local/var/lib/cherokee/graphs
               but has no permission.

You would be expected to give it permission there.

   - Question: I am confused because of the permissions in
               /usr/local (2775 root:staff). I would simply change
               the permissions of /usr/local/var/lib/cherokee
               recursively to root:www-data and chmod it to g+w.
               I am not sure if this is common practice or wrong!

It is okay.  The combination of user:group will depend upon how you
wish to work with those files.  If you are setting those files

Anyone using a Terratec Grabster under Debian?

2012-12-11 Thread brian


Hi all,

I've got a bunch of PAL (British) VCR tapes that I'm trying to 
transfer to DVDs which will play on a standard American DVD player. 
(Before someone suggests it, no, I don't have a multi-format combo DVD 
and VHS player!)


The device I'm using for this is a Terratec Grabster, which takes the 
video output in at one end, and produces an MPEG via a USB connection.


I was doing these conversions on an old Windows XP box, and everything 
was working just fine, but unhappily my XP box didn't survive a house 
move. :(


Terratec don't even want to know about Linux, not to mention that my 
version of the device (the 400 Mk II) is now out of support.


I've tried a VirtualBox VM using my old version of XP, but as best I'm 
able to determine, there's some problem with the video under a VM. 
Anyway, I just can't get it to work.


What I would really like to do, of course, is to continue doing the 
conversions on my 64-bit Debian box, but this means I need to find a 
driver for the device (I found about the pvrusb2 drivers, but they're 
a few years old, and there was talk about them being included in later 
distros - anyone know?) AND I need to find software which can capture 
the MPEG stream from the USB port.


If anyone out there has already solved this, or even just has some 
suggestions for what I can try, I'd be grateful.



Brian.


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Re: LVM devices and symlinks

2012-12-11 Thread Roger Leigh

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:09:50PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Neil T. Dantam wrote:
  I'm having an issue (not quite a problem) creating LVM logical
  volumes.  It seems that the way device files and symlinks are created
  has changed between Squeeze and Wheezy (or I have some bad
  configuration).
 
Workarounds
---
  Here are a few workarounds I've figured out:
  
  1. Give lvcreate the '-Z n' flag.  This does create a usable logical
 volume, but won't work with snapshots.
  2. Manually create a symlink 
 '/dev/VGNAME/LVNAME - /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME'
 before running lvcreate 
  3. Give lvcreate the '--noudevsync' option.  In this case, lvcreate
 makes a symlink for
 '/dev/VGNAME/LVNAME - /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME'
 on its own (apparently).
 
 What version of udev are you using?  I could see this being a udev issue.

and/or dmsetup.  Might be worth installing that if missing.


Regards,
Roger

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Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!

2012-12-11 Thread Claudius Hubig

Hello Andrei,

Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 $ dpkg-deb -I debs/skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb
  Architecture: i386
  Depends: libasound2 (= 1.0.16), libc6 (= 2.3.6-6~), libc6 (= 2.7), 
 libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1), libqt4-dbus (= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-network (= 4:4.8.0), 
 libqt4-xml (= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (= 
 4:4.8.0), libqtwebkit4 (= 2.1.0~2011week13), libstdc++6 (= 4.6), libx11-6, 
 libxext6, libxss1, libxv1, libssl1.0.0

Previously, Skype offered this i386 package and an amd64 package that
was really the same but with Architecture:amd64 and a dependency on
ia32-libs*. 

 As far as I can tell this is a plain i386 packages. Besides (haven't 
 read the multiarch specification), I don't think applications need any 
 conversion. One just needs to activate the proper architecture(s) and 
 then let the package managers do their job.

Exactly. And Skype stopped putting out fake amd64 packages and
decided to use multi-arch to support the amd64 users, the result of
which is the above ‘multi-arch’ package.

This doesn’t mean that the package is co-installable with itself or
something like that.

Best,

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Re: LVM devices and symlinks

2012-12-11 Thread Chris Davies

Neil T. Dantam n...@gatech.edu wrote:
 New (broken) Behavior
 Performing an `lvcreate -L10G -nLVNAME VGNAME` creates:

 1. New device file /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME
 (and apparently nothing else)

 Then, lvcreate tries to open /dev/VGNAME-LVNAME, which fails because
 of no symlink with:
/dev/VGNAME/LVNAME: not found: device not cleared
Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV.

Reboot the box after installing LVM.

Based on my empirical sample of two, there's some dependency that I
haven't tracked - and I must admit thought it was related to my weird
installation process - that blocks the symlink creation after installing
LVM but prior to a reboot.


 Also, on a reboot of the machine, the device files end up in the
 original configuration, with both /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME and
 /dev/VGNAME/LVNAME as symlinks pointing to /dev/dm-N.

Is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=593375#25 (fixed)
a related issue? It looks plausible to me.

Chris


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Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

2012-12-11 Thread Chris Davies

P. J. McDermott p...@nac.net wrote:
 I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian
 GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests.

I'd recommend KVM and libvirt/VMM.


 The server has two 3.0-GHz CPU cores (an AMD CPU with the AMD-V/SVM
 virtualization extensions) and 2.0 GiB of RAM (which I'm planning to
 either double or triple).

My home server's running a single twin-core AMD Turion II N40L at 1.5GHz
but has 8GB memory. No problems running several servers (at the moment),
and has enough clout for me to be seriously considering a virtualised
Windows 7 instance, too.


 So I need a virtualization infrastructure that offers efficient CPU and
 I/O virtualization and allows guest systems to gain or forfeit virtual
 memory as their loads require (pooling my limited RAM as efficiently as
 possible).

I have relatively small memory allocations to the guests (~2GB) but with
the balloon driver installed in case I need to tweak on the fly. I figure
that a less-used guest will get pushed out to the host's swap if things
start getting squeaky.


 I'm not sure I like the idea of freeing memory by swapping, but at
 least it's a simple design and easy to set up.  Is there a newer method
 in KVM (in Debian squeeze or squeeze-backports) of automatically growing
 and shrinking guest systems' virtual memory space in RAM, preferably
 without using swap?

I had originally understood that this is what the balloon driver allowed,
but I haven't found a way of controlling it automatically based on the
host's available memory.

Ah, 
http://aglitke.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/automatic-memory-ballooning-with-mom/
might be worth following through.


 All things considered, I'm leaning slightly toward qemu-kvm, because it
 looks like it'll do what I need in a simple and familiar way; but I'm
 concerned about the performance of the CPU and I/O virtualization and
 the page swapping.

What I like about KVM/libvirt is that it (now) handles LVM as a volume
pool, so I don't need to use large files in the filesystem to hold
guests' backing store.

What I don't like about KVM is its dependence on the backing store
being an entire virtual disk, complete with partition table, etc. It
makes growing filesystems an absolute pain (LVM resize, guest shutdown,
fdisk/parted on partition file, resize guest filesystem, restart guest),
but I don't do it too often. I also keep the filesystem layouts for my
guests' primary disk as simple as possible (typically the everything
in one big filesystem approach).

What I do like about KVM is its ability to run non-aware guests. I have
lost track of whether Xen would let me run an instance of Windows 7,
for example.

If you do go for KVM/libvirt, I would recommend the virtualised disk
and network devices. Empirically they work well, and gut feel (i.e. not
quantitatively) suggests that at worst they won't be any slower than
emulations of physical devices and actually might be a little faster
and/or more efficient.

Chris


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Re: NFS automount not happening

2012-12-11 Thread Chris Davies

Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
 The dhcpd will ping the address after the lease has expired and before
 assigning it again and will notice that it is still in use and will
 avoid assigning that address to another client.

ICMP ping? Are you sure?

According to the documents I've read (RFC2131 amongst others) it's the
client that is responsible for renewing the lease. However, if you were to
run a dhcp client on your diskless workstation then it would be assigned
the same address that PXE had previously obtained, so all would be well.

Chris


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APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?

2012-12-11 Thread Berni Elbourn


This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm SMT1000RMI2U 
works with apscupsd on Debian?

Cheers,

Berni

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Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?

2012-12-11 Thread Darac Marjal

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:50:10PM +, Berni Elbourn wrote:
 This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm SMT1000RMI2U 
 works with apscupsd on Debian?

apcupsd SHOULD work in a limited capacity with that unit. The version in
Wheezy or later is best as it has udev rules for the newer devices.
However, while you'll get basic functionality (on-battery, low-battery
etc notifications), you won't get the full functionality of the UPS
without APC's powerchute software. This is because APC (now owned by
Schneider Electric) have gone back to using a proprietary (undocumented)
protocol called MicroLink. Only Powerchute supports this, so if you
want to know how much load is on your UPS or when the battery is due to
fail or any of the other useful information the UPS knows, then either
complain to APC, or use powerchute.

/rant



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Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?

2012-12-11 Thread Federico Alberto Sayd


On 11/12/12 09:50, Berni Elbourn wrote:
This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm 
SMT1000RMI2U works with apscupsd on Debian?


Cheers,

Berni

If your SmartUPS include a management card with network connection, then 
supports PowerChute protocol, you can connect ApcUpsd with your UPS 
through the network


Regards

Federico


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Re: NFS automount not happening

2012-12-11 Thread Wolfgang Karall

On 12/11/2012 11:08 AM, Chris Davies wrote:
 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
 The dhcpd will ping the address after the lease has expired and before
 assigning it again and will notice that it is still in use and will
 avoid assigning that address to another client.
 
 ICMP ping? Are you sure?

I suppose Bob was referring to the ping-check as per the ISC dhcpd, see
http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=dhcpd.conf

The client has to renew the lease, indeed, but the server also tries to
make sure there are no duplicate IPs in the network.

Cheers
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Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?

2012-12-11 Thread Berni Elbourn


On 11/12/12 12:56, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote:

On 11/12/12 09:50, Berni Elbourn wrote:

This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm SMT1000RMI2U 
works with apscupsd on Debian?

Cheers,

Berni


If your SmartUPS include a management card with network connection, then 
supports PowerChute protocol, you can connect
ApcUpsd with your UPS through the network

Regards

Federico




Sadly the management card adds 40% to the price .. are the USB/RS232 a non 
starter?

Berni

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Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?

2012-12-11 Thread Berni Elbourn


On 11/12/12 12:58, Darac Marjal wrote:

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:50:10PM +, Berni Elbourn wrote:

This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm SMT1000RMI2U 
works with apscupsd on Debian?


apcupsd SHOULD work in a limited capacity with that unit. The version in
Wheezy or later is best as it has udev rules for the newer devices.
However, while you'll get basic functionality (on-battery, low-battery
etc notifications), you won't get the full functionality of the UPS
without APC's powerchute software. This is because APC (now owned by
Schneider Electric) have gone back to using a proprietary (undocumented)
protocol called MicroLink. Only Powerchute supports this, so if you
want to know how much load is on your UPS or when the battery is due to
fail or any of the other useful information the UPS knows, then either
complain to APC, or use powerchute.

/rant


Agree with rant. Does the auto shut-down feature work with those limited 
features?

Easiest protest for me would be to choose another maker who does have a Linux client for power down. Are there any 
alternatives to APC?


Berni

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Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?

2012-12-11 Thread Darac Marjal

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 02:58:13PM +, Berni Elbourn wrote:
 On 11/12/12 12:58, Darac Marjal wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:50:10PM +, Berni Elbourn wrote:
 This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm 
 SMT1000RMI2U works with apscupsd on Debian?
 
 apcupsd SHOULD work in a limited capacity with that unit. The version in
 Wheezy or later is best as it has udev rules for the newer devices.
 However, while you'll get basic functionality (on-battery, low-battery
 etc notifications), you won't get the full functionality of the UPS
 without APC's powerchute software. This is because APC (now owned by
 Schneider Electric) have gone back to using a proprietary (undocumented)
 protocol called MicroLink. Only Powerchute supports this, so if you
 want to know how much load is on your UPS or when the battery is due to
 fail or any of the other useful information the UPS knows, then either
 complain to APC, or use powerchute.
 
 /rant
 
 Agree with rant. Does the auto shut-down feature work with those limited 
 features?

Yes. The UPS does do what it's supposed to, but the added management
niceties are locked away. Poor show, really.

 
 Easiest protest for me would be to choose another maker who does
 have a Linux client for power down. Are there any alternatives to
 APC?

Your best bet is to look here:
http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html. Select * (5 stars)
from the first dropdown and you'll get a list of several UPSes whose
manufacturers have not only provided details of the protocol, but also
sample handware for the good people at NUT to test on.



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Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze

2012-12-11 Thread Kelly Clowers

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Mark Panen mark.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I am replying to all, not used to sitting in the dark with the light of the
notebook to type only, Out here in the sticks there are always power
failures when it rains. I normally use pop, not used to gmail., the mobo is
two years old a midrange board with SATA 6 and USB 3.0, an ASUS, I also
thought it was the Ocean air and humidity but my other ASUS mobo has no
hassles. I have enough lightining protection to protect I dpn't know what
and always unplug before storm, I think I was naughty when I fist received
the board and overclocked it from 2.8 to 3.8 even though the temps where
fine ans I have a fantastic Zalman aftercooler. devede ran quite stable a
sdid prime sorry for the s[peeling my UPS is about to go flat

Well, that was rather rambling, but to me is sounds like there is a
fault in your motherboard. My guess is the heat from your hairdryer
(how did you figure that out anyway?!) either dries out some bit that
overly sensitive to moisture, or causes thermal expansion of some part
that does not make enough contact otherwise... although in the second
case, it should be more about ambient temperature, not about if there
was a rain storm.

Two years old, huh? So the warranty is.probably well over. I would say
just get a new Mobo.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers

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Re: Need help recovering hard drive

2012-12-11 Thread Jack Schneider

On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:42:48 -0600
Dennis Wicks w...@mgssub.com wrote:

 Greetings;
 
 One of my hard drives quit working, and as luck would have 
 it, just before the scheduled backup! So I need to recover 
 some info that has been updated/added since the last backup.
 
 First, is there any thing I can do to get the system to 
 mount that drive even with errors? As it is right now I get 
 error messages at boot time and the drive isn't recognized. 
 Apparently doesn't make any difference whether the drive is 
 on controller 0 or 1 or is master or slave.
 
 Second, is there any program that I can use to get data of 
 off that drive?
 
 TIA for any help!
 Dennis
 
 
Hi, Dennis

Have you looked at testdisk?


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Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze


On 12/11/2012 07:50 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Mark Panenmark.pa...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

Hi,

I am replying to all, not used to sitting in the dark with the light of the
notebook to type only, Out here in the sticks there are always power
failures when it rains. I normally use pop, not used to gmail., the mobo is
two years old a midrange board with SATA 6 and USB 3.0, an ASUS, I also
thought it was the Ocean air and humidity but my other ASUS mobo has no
hassles. I have enough lightining protection to protect I dpn't know what
and always unplug before storm, I think I was naughty when I fist received
the board and overclocked it from 2.8 to 3.8 even though the temps where
fine ans I have a fantastic Zalman aftercooler. devede ran quite stable a
sdid prime sorry for the s[peeling my UPS is about to go flat
 

Well, that was rather rambling, but to me is sounds like there is a
fault in your motherboard. My guess is the heat from your hairdryer
(how did you figure that out anyway?!) either dries out some bit that
overly sensitive to moisture, or causes thermal expansion of some part
that does not make enough contact otherwise... although in the second
case,  it should be more about ambient temperature, not about if there
was a rain storm.

Two years old, huh? So the warranty is.probably well over. I would say
just get a new Mobo.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


   

Hi Mark,

The first thing I would do is run a post check on the motherboard. If 
you are lucky your board has a built in post card. If not, you will have 
to buy one. They are nice to have around for such things. In case you 
are not familiar with post cards they have a numeric readout that 
ratchets up through the motherboards post process. The final number 
displayed can be looked up in a table that will tell you where and 
probably why the process failed. I would advise researching the post 
process on the net. If yours is built in ( like my intel i5-750 board) 
then instructions will be in your board manual. Intermittant problems 
are a bitch.


Gary R.


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Re: Apt-get hangup (SOLVED)


On 12/06/2012 11:03 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Gary Roach wrote:
   

I just had to do a major restore on one of my systems
and am having trouble with updates.
 

What happened?  And what did you do when you say you did a major
restore?

   

Setting up openoffice.org-core (1:3.2.1-11+squeeze8) ...
/usr/lib/ure/bin/javaldx: error while loading shared libraries:
libstlport_gcc.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file
or directory
/usr/lib/ure/bin/regcomp.bin: error while loading shared libraries:
libstlport_gcc.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file
or directory
 

Look at that error message more closely.  It is concerning on a couple
of different levels.  It is trying to open libstlport_gcc.so.4.6 but
it fails.  Start there.  Why isn't that library available?  (But why is
it looking for that library at all?)

   $ ldd -d -r /usr/lib/ure/bin/javaldx
 linux-vdso.so.1 =   (0x7c39f000)
 libuno_sal.so.3 =  /usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libuno_sal.so.3 
(0x7f979b384000)
 libjvmfwk.so.3 =  /usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libjvmfwk.so.3 
(0x7f979b168000)
 libstdc++.so.6 =  /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x7f979ae42000)
   ...

The lines will go on and on for that program.  Do they all resolve?
Any errors?  If so then what are the reasons for those errors?

But why is it looking for libstlport_gcc?  It isn't one of the
libraries used by that program.

   $ ldd -d -r /usr/lib/ure/bin/javaldx | grep libstlport_gcc
   ...nothing...

I can only guess that your restore was not completely successful.

Bob
   

Sorry about the mis-routing of the first message.

The restore problem is a long story. Lets just say that what i've
 got is all I'm going to get.

Things have changed since I started this thread. I found a really good 
missive at:


http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=Repairing_apt-get_database

that got me through the problem. The only package that couldn't be fixed 
was openoffice.org-filter-binfilter. This package is not essential. I 
purged this one and now have a clean system. I do have a major problem 
with KDE desktop icons now but that needs further investigation an maybe 
a topic for another thread.


Thanks for the help

Gary R.



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Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze

2012-12-11 Thread Kelly Clowers

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote:


 The first thing I would do is run a post check on the motherboard. If you
 are lucky your board has a built in post card

Uh, what? I would not call that luck, I would call that I paid big
money for real server-class equipment. I have never seen a post board
come with consumer-class equipment.Maybe nowadays the really high-end
enthusiast space has such things?

Anyway, why do you need one? If the POST is coming up with anything it
will beep a post code. Sure, it is more annoying to decipher than
looking at a display, but you don't have to buy anything... And anyway
it sounds like this MB never gets to post.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze

2012-12-11 Thread Jerry Stuckle


On 12/11/2012 10:50 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Mark Panen mark.pa...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

I am replying to all, not used to sitting in the dark with the light of the
notebook to type only, Out here in the sticks there are always power
failures when it rains. I normally use pop, not used to gmail., the mobo is
two years old a midrange board with SATA 6 and USB 3.0, an ASUS, I also
thought it was the Ocean air and humidity but my other ASUS mobo has no
hassles. I have enough lightining protection to protect I dpn't know what
and always unplug before storm, I think I was naughty when I fist received
the board and overclocked it from 2.8 to 3.8 even though the temps where
fine ans I have a fantastic Zalman aftercooler. devede ran quite stable a
sdid prime sorry for the s[peeling my UPS is about to go flat


Well, that was rather rambling, but to me is sounds like there is a
fault in your motherboard. My guess is the heat from your hairdryer
(how did you figure that out anyway?!) either dries out some bit that
overly sensitive to moisture, or causes thermal expansion of some part
that does not make enough contact otherwise... although in the second
case,  it should be more about ambient temperature, not about if there
was a rain storm.

Two years old, huh? So the warranty is.probably well over. I would say
just get a new Mobo.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers




It's also very possible one of the components is thermally sensitive and 
doesn't work unless it's heated slightly.  I've seen this happen to IC's 
several times over the years.


Unless the op has experience in troubleshooting and replacing components 
on multi-layer boards (and possibly surface mounting), my recommendation 
would also be a new Mobo.



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udev device mapper rules for early boot?

2012-12-11 Thread Nikolaus Rath

Hello,

I have created a udev rule to set the owner of a specific block device:

SUBSYSTEM==block,
ENV{DM_UUID}==LVM-yYuoI8k05GWxZnz9BeEIwPUGGeojzF3dZZmXTYRqC051Tllj76OHdDlzYhKZUu7u,
OWNER=1000

If I disable and re-enable this logical volume with lvchange, it gets
created with the correct owner.

However, when I boot the computer, the device is always owned by
root:disk instead.

I have added a custom hook to copy this rule into the initrd. I also
uncompressed and extracted the resulting initrd, and the rule is indeed
present in lib/udev/rules.d as 99-udev-custom.rules.


Does anyone have a suggestion of how I could debug this further? Why is
my rule ignored when the volume comes up the first time?

Best,
Nikolaus



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Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!

2012-12-11 Thread Charles Kroeger

On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 13:40:02 +0100
Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote:

 Ok, I understood. But last question: Does debian make sure, that I get rid 
 from the old 32-bit libs included in the old ia32-libs package or do I have 
 to 
 search them manually, to get a clean system, without double 32-bit libs?

Dateline the world:

updated Debian Linux Kernel: 3.2.0-4-amd64 (12-10-2012)

#apt-get update
#apt-get dist-upgrade

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gtkorphan lib32v4l-0 libglade2-0 libgtk2-gladexml-perl

The following NEW packages will be installed:

(here it comes, the i386 multi-arch juggernaut)

The following NEW packages will be installed:

actual list removed to avoid tedium

9 upgraded, 197 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 83.5 MB of archives.
After this operation, 118 MB of additional disk space will be used.

Do you want to continue [Y/n]? 

And the answer to that of course is yes, so the waiting is over and the jabber
although I did enjoy reading the solutions from our German fellow users.
Some people don't like to wait, and I can understand that.

Multi-Arch is now history.

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Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

2012-12-11 Thread Nuno Magalhães

Greetings,

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Chris Davies
chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote:
 P. J. McDermott p...@nac.net wrote:
 I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian
 GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests.

 I'd recommend KVM and libvirt/VMM.

I'd go for Xen. Not a virtualization expert, but i've installed a
simple dom0 on squeeze with a sid PVM, on async raid1 with LVM; all
through the debian instaler, no trouble. YMMV

 What I like about KVM/libvirt is that it (now) handles LVM as a volume
 pool, so I don't need to use large files in the filesystem to hold
 guests' backing store.

You can use LVM with Xen too.

 What I do like about KVM is its ability to run non-aware guests. I have
 lost track of whether Xen would let me run an instance of Windows 7,
 for example.

Xen supports HVMs, if the host CPU supports virtualization. You can
also use pv-drivers to speed things up.

Just my 2c.

HTH,
Nuno

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Re: udev device mapper rules for early boot?

2012-12-11 Thread Michael Biebl

On 11.12.2012 19:00, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have created a udev rule to set the owner of a specific block device:
 
 SUBSYSTEM==block,
 ENV{DM_UUID}==LVM-yYuoI8k05GWxZnz9BeEIwPUGGeojzF3dZZmXTYRqC051Tllj76OHdDlzYhKZUu7u,
 OWNER=1000

[..]

 I have added a custom hook to copy this rule into the initrd. I also

[..]

 Does anyone have a suggestion of how I could debug this further? Why is
 my rule ignored when the volume comes up the first time?

Just a wild guess: the initrd does not have a user/group with uid 1000,
so the chown fails.


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Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

2012-12-11 Thread Peter Viskup

On 12/09/2012 07:48 AM, P. J. McDermott wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian
GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests. I'm
trying to decide between Xen 4.0 (with paravirtualized guests and
probably the xend/xm toolstack) and qemu-kvm 0.12 or 1.1 (with the
libvirt tools).

My experience in this area is currently limited; I've only used qemu-kvm
0.12, and only through Virtual Machine Manager. So I'm looking for some
advice and answers to help me decide how to set this up.

The server has two 3.0-GHz CPU cores (an AMD CPU with the AMD-V/SVM
virtualization extensions) and 2.0 GiB of RAM (which I'm planning to
either double or triple).

I'd like to run at least five guest systems to build software, manage
mailing lists, serve files, manage a RAID 5 array using md, etc.

So I need a virtualization infrastructure that offers efficient CPU and
I/O virtualization and allows guest systems to gain or forfeit virtual
memory as their loads require (pooling my limited RAM as efficiently as
possible). (Ease of understanding and maintenance are nice as well,
though I'm happy to read documentation.)

I see that KVM supports a rather simple method of overcommitting memory
[1], relying on Linux's lazy page allocation and swapping [2][3].

[1]:
http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ#Is_dynamic_memory_management_for_guests_supported.3F
[2]: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Memory
[3]:
https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Administration_Guide/sect-Virtualization-Tips_and_tricks-Overcommitting_with_KVM.html

I'm not sure I like the idea of freeing memory by swapping, but at
least it's a simple design and easy to set up. Is there a newer method
in KVM (in Debian squeeze or squeeze-backports) of automatically growing
and shrinking guest systems' virtual memory space in RAM, preferably
without using swap?

Xen used to have a userspace self-ballooning daemon called xenballoond
[4], but it's no longer maintained [5] and it supposedly only supports
Red Hat–family systems [6].

[4]:
http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2008/08/27/xen-33-feature-memory-overcommit/
[5]:
http://old-list-archives.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2011-02/msg01333.html
[6]:
http://xenbits.xen.org/hg/xen-unstable.hg/file/91232efdcfdc/tools/xenballoon/xenballoond.README

Now Xen supports Transcendent Memory or tmem (self-ballooning and
frontswap self-shrinking) [7][8] instead.

[7]: https://lwn.net/Articles/454795/
[8]: drivers/xen/xen-selfballoon.c in Linux 3.1 or later

The tmem code is in the version of Linux in squeeze-backports, and the
XEN_BALLOON option is enabled. But, as far as I can tell, CLEANCACHE,
XEN_SELFBALLOONING, and FRONTSWAP are disabled. I'd rather not have to
rebuild the Linux packages to install in my squeeze and wheezy domUs for
this.

All things considered, I'm leaning slightly toward qemu-kvm, because it
looks like it'll do what I need in a simple and familiar way; but I'm
concerned about the performance of the CPU and I/O virtualization and
the page swapping.

Can anyone show me that I've overlooked something about Xen in Debian or
convince me that qemu-kvm will perform fine for my needs?

Thanks,

I would recommend you to go with Wheezy at least for dom0. It provides
the XCP toolstack which is the new standard of Xen management in Debian.
This will save you a lot of time as it is totally different from xend/xm
toolstack. It doesn't make sense for you to learn xend/xm from scratch
just for three-four upcoming months.
The other thing with Squeeze version of linux-kernel there was strange
bug discovered [1] causing the dynamic memory increase not working
properly. It is not experienced on Wheezy.
Consider LXC [2] in case you have some concerns of CPU/memory overhead
and you plan to run only Linux virtual servers.

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=693851
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/LXC

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Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze


On 12/11/2012 09:10 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Gary Roachgary719_li...@verizon.net  wrote:
   


The first thing I would do is run a post check on the motherboard. If you
are lucky your board has a built in post card
 

Uh, what? I would not call that luck, I would call that I paid big
money for real server-class equipment. I have never seen a post board
come with consumer-class equipment.Maybe nowadays the really high-end
enthusiast space has such things?

Anyway, why do you need one? If the POST is coming up with anything it
will beep a post code. Sure, it is more annoying to decipher than
looking at a display, but you don't have to buy anything... And anyway
it sounds like this MB never gets to post.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


   
Well my board is an Intel DP55KG that I paid about $180 for. Not cheap 
but not that expensive. There is a big difference between beep codes 
and  numeric readouts. The numerics can give very detailed information 
as to the source of the problem. I will be willing to bet that the board 
got through some of the post steps even though nothing noticeable 
happened. Of course all of this is somewhat academic if his board 
doesn't have a built in post card. It's cheaper to just buy another 
motherboard.


Gary R.


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