Re: Xerrada sobre Sobirania Tecnològica (Difusió a guifi)
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 03:26:14AM +0200, Mònica Ramírez Arceda wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 23:30 +0200, Blackhold wrote: El bloc 3 serà una mica extens (per al munt de temàtiques introduïdes), totes les persones que parlarem al bloc 3 farem un treball de síntesi bastant important, però els 20 minuts disponibles els gastarem en explicar els diferents temes. Si intentem explicar un tema, i després preguntes, no acabarem mai. Potser no cal tocar tots els temes de la llista. I només parlar d'aquells que la gent tingui interès. D'altra banda, hem de tenir present que cada punt exposat en cada bloc dóna per una xerrada d'una hora sencera (o més!). Potser m'equivoco, però la idea seria fer cinc cèntims de cada cosa i fer que el públic pregunti i en sigui protagonista. Almenys és el que vaig entendre jo... Precisament vaig ser jo qui va aixecar la llebre amb OpenData, però penso que tampoc hem de pretendre donar tanta informació com sigui possible en 60-90' sinó donar la que puguin assimilar, per no saturar-los. Crec que seria interessant redactar un document amb referències i que així les tinguin i les puguin consultar un cop hagi acabat la xerrada. Jo havia pensat d'imprimir alguna cosa de la filosofia de Debian (ja que tot plegat ha sortit d'aquesta llista), però dubto que tingui temps de fer un recopilatori de tot. Si algú té temps/ganes, endavant! Fins divendres! Jo portaré impreses les 4 llibertats i el Contracte Social de Debian. Fins divendres. -- Adrià García-Alzórriz ad...@fsfe.org GPG Key: 09494C14 A perro que no conozcas, nunca le espantes las moscas. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Dans son message du 09/04/13 à 21:33, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit : […] Petite correction : […] Donc allons-y ;o) De plus, quelque soit au tout début de ma conversion à Linux ou aujourd'hui (voire demain), quelque soit avant ou après l'installation d'un système GNU/Linux, je consulte toujours la documentation (qu'elle soit spécifique à la distribution ou non). […] D’abord, c’est toujours « quel(le)(s) que soi(en)t » et jamais « quelque ». Ensuite, je pense qu’ici, c’est plutôt « que ce soit » que tu voulais dire. D'accord. Donc le fautif se mettra dans un coin avec un bonnet d'âne sur la tête. De plus, il copiera cent fois la phrase suivante : De plus, quels que soient au tout début de ma conversion à Linux ou aujourd'hui (voire demain), que ce soit avant ou après l'installation d'un système GNU/Linux, je consulte toujours la documentation (qu'elle soit spécifique à la distribution ou non). :-D Cordialement et à bientôt, Stéphane. Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2101510518.50649.1365576572937.JavaMail.www@wwinf8309
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Dans son message du 09/04/13 à 23:57, Bzzz a écrit : J'ai tjrs considéré que Débian était une distro orientée admin; pour le pousse-bouton, il existe trudububu avec les risques inhérents à des packages dont la sécurité reste à tester. Vouloir tout et tout de suite est à la mode actuellement… jusqu'à ce qu'on gros crash vienne remette les pendules à l'heure (et pas que pour l'informatique); alors, avoir une politique inflexible sur la sécurité, même au prix d'une certaine obsolescence, ne me paraît pas si déplacé que cela, d'autant qu'un tas de solutions qui gravitent autour de Debian existent pour palier à ces problèmes. Et pour ce qui est de l'installation, le fait que certains packages viennent sans configuration de base me semble particulièrement formateur. Encore une fois, celui qui cherche une distro user friendly devrait plus se reporter vers trudububu ou d'autres. Parce qu'il y a quand même un point à ne pas perdre de vue: Debian est LA distro plébiscité par les admins… Je suis assez d'accord avec les avis des intervenants qui ont répondu à mon message du 09/04/13 à 21:12. Néanmoins et pour ajouter à ce j'ai dit dans mon précédent message, tous ceux-ci ne doivent pas nous décourager ou nous interdire de faciliter le travail des administrateurs et des utilisateurs (et pas seulement pendant le processus d'installation d'un système Debian) qu'ils soient des simples débutants (mais plein de bonne volonté) ou déjà très expérimentés. Surtout si nous voulons répondre l'ambition de notre distribution préférée d'être le système d'exploitation universel. En fait, il n'y a qu'au moment où on veut un système quelque peu personnalisé qu'il faudra se résoudre de mettre la main à la pâte comme on dit. :-) tu veux bien sortir avec moi ? je sortirais avec toi le jour où tous les linuxiens seront d'accord sur la meilleure distribution Euh là, ce n'est pas gagné (et pour longtemps encore) ! :-D Cordialement et à bientôt, Stéphane. Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/263856926.53256.1365579027597.JavaMail.www@wwinf8309
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
Le 09/04/2013 23:36, Manu Baylac a écrit : Le 09/04/2013 22:46, Bzzz a écrit : Je plussois, plusieurs de mes connaissances sont sous Debian et je me connecte rélugièrement pour faire les MàJ par SSH (quoique pour le prochain ça deviendra chiant, étant donné que dyndns n'est plus gratuit et que mes 5 possibilités sont épuisées). j'ai fait ça pour mes 4 amis et proches parents, avec openvpn. les postes se connectent au serveur vpn automatiquement bien entendu. et un x11vnc au cas où le grand-père ne sait plus commenter aller sur yahoo. tous les postes sont derrière un FW bien entendu. Jusqu'ici, à part l'installation de pgms correspondant à leurs attentes, je n'ai eu aucune récrimination (ni PB:). Tous sont sous XFCE et personne n'a moufté par rapport à w$. \o/ On est tous d'accord. Donc si l'on revient au mail source de ce thread, je cite : cela signifie qu'une install de debian requière (encore) un vrai admin linux debian (car sous ubuntu ou même bsd, j'ai pas ce genre de soucis). là vraiment, c'est honteux quoi. je suis fâché. Y'a de quoi remettre les points sur les i non ? en effet, le ton peut être dur, suite à mon immense déception. j'aurais peut-être du mettre un xubuntu ... voire, un pcBSD. Et même si je ne mets pas de smiley ni de phrase de politesse à la fin, tout ceci reste sur un ton très cordial :-) -- Manu -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51651b7a.9000...@freeatome.com
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
Bonjour /All, Dès la fin de l’installation de Debian, tu te retrouves dans ton sources.list pour le modifier! Donc oui, Debian n'est pas user-friendly, il est advanced-user. Il est fait pour l'utilisateur qui souhaite paramétrer lui-même son environnement. Et c'est là la force de Debian, de préparer des deb stables tout en laissant l'aspect modulaire. Tout en étant plus simple qu'une Arch. Et c'est la raison pour laquelle il existe des distributions comme Ubuntu LinuxMint et autres, qui se basent sur cette stabilité/modularité en pré-configurant l'ensemble de la distribution. Pour résumer l'écosystème GNU/Linux super geek, super advanced-user = gentoo, Archlinux advanced-user administrators = Debian RedHat newby-user on desktop/laptop = Ubuntu, LinuxMint, Maegia, Fedora ... pour ne citer que les plus connus La déception provient souvent d'une manque d'information sur le produit. Moi aussi, je suis chaque jour déçu par M$ lorsque je sais ce que je peux faire sous GNU/Linux! 2013/4/10 admini adm...@freeatome.com Le 09/04/2013 23:36, Manu Baylac a écrit : Le 09/04/2013 22:46, Bzzz a écrit : Je plussois, plusieurs de mes connaissances sont sous Debian et je me connecte rélugièrement pour faire les MàJ par SSH (quoique pour le prochain ça deviendra chiant, étant donné que dyndns n'est plus gratuit et que mes 5 possibilités sont épuisées). j'ai fait ça pour mes 4 amis et proches parents, avec openvpn. les postes se connectent au serveur vpn automatiquement bien entendu. et un x11vnc au cas où le grand-père ne sait plus commenter aller sur yahoo. tous les postes sont derrière un FW bien entendu. Jusqu'ici, à part l'installation de pgms correspondant à leurs attentes, je n'ai eu aucune récrimination (ni PB:). Tous sont sous XFCE et personne n'a moufté par rapport à w$. \o/ On est tous d'accord. Donc si l'on revient au mail source de ce thread, je cite : cela signifie qu'une install de debian requière (encore) un vrai admin linux debian (car sous ubuntu ou même bsd, j'ai pas ce genre de soucis). là vraiment, c'est honteux quoi. je suis fâché. Y'a de quoi remettre les points sur les i non ? en effet, le ton peut être dur, suite à mon immense déception. j'aurais peut-être du mettre un xubuntu ... voire, un pcBSD. Et même si je ne mets pas de smiley ni de phrase de politesse à la fin, tout ceci reste sur un ton très cordial :-) -- Manu -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/**FrenchListshttp://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-REQUEST@**lists.debian.orgdebian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**51651b7a.9000...@freeatome.comhttp://lists.debian.org/51651b7a.9000...@freeatome.com
[HS] Connexion distante sans DynDNS
Salut, Le mardi 09 avril 2013 à 22:46, Bzzz a écrit : (quoique pour le prochain ça deviendra chiant, étant donné que dyndns n'est plus gratuit et que mes 5 possibilités sont épuisées). J'ai été confronté récemment au même problème, j'ai passé tout mon petit monde chez afraid.org, la mise-à-jour de l'IP se fait via inadyn sous Debian. Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410095906.gb6...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
Le Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:42:58AM +0200, honeyshell a écrit : Dès la fin de l’installation de Debian, tu te retrouves dans ton sources.list pour le modifier! Donc oui, Debian n'est pas user-friendly, il est advanced-user. Il est fait pour l'utilisateur qui souhaite paramétrer lui-même son environnement. Bonjour, Debian fonctionne très bien avec un installation par défaut, comme rappelé plus haut dans ce fil de discussion. On peut configurer et modifier le système, mais ce n'est pas une nécessité. Avoir un système qui fonctionne bien avec les choix par défauts est un des buts de Debian. Amicalement, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410122458.gf19...@falafel.plessy.net
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 02:24:58PM CEST, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org said: Le Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:42:58AM +0200, honeyshell a écrit : Dès la fin de l’installation de Debian, tu te retrouves dans ton sources.list pour le modifier! Donc oui, Debian n'est pas user-friendly, il est advanced-user. Il est fait pour l'utilisateur qui souhaite paramétrer lui-même son environnement. Bonjour, Debian fonctionne très bien avec un installation par défaut, comme rappelé plus haut dans ce fil de discussion. On peut configurer et modifier le système, mais ce n'est pas une nécessité. Avoir un système qui fonctionne bien avec les choix par défauts est un des buts de Debian. Une installation par défaut ne peux pas répondre à tous les besoins. C'est juste un défaut. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410123223.gf4...@rail.eu.org
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
Le 10/04/2013 14:24, Charles Plessy a écrit : Le Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:42:58AM +0200, honeyshell a écrit : Dès la fin de l’installation de Debian, tu te retrouves dans ton sources.list pour le modifier! Donc oui, Debian n'est pas user-friendly, il est advanced-user. Il est fait pour l'utilisateur qui souhaite paramétrer lui-même son environnement. Bonjour, Debian fonctionne très bien avec un installation par défaut, comme rappelé plus haut dans ce fil de discussion. ben comme je l'ai décrit dans le poste initial. une installation par défaut de wheezy, avec environnement graphique coché lors de l'install, ne retrouve pas le réseau filaire si le câble n'est pas branché au boot. il y a mile et une façon de remédier à ça, bien entendu. et la solution a été trouvée peu après. ça serait dû à une mise à jour de testing à un moment donné qui bugait??? le laptop est parti à l'étranger, impossible et pas envie de refaire l'install pour retester. On peut configurer et modifier le système, mais ce n'est pas une nécessité. Avoir un système qui fonctionne bien avec les choix par défauts est un des buts de Debian. Amicalement, -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51656104.1000...@freeatome.com
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
Le Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 02:54:28PM +0200, admini a écrit : ben comme je l'ai décrit dans le poste initial. une installation par défaut de wheezy, avec environnement graphique coché lors de l'install, ne retrouve pas le réseau filaire si le câble n'est pas branché au boot. il y a mile et une façon de remédier à ça, bien entendu. et la solution a été trouvée peu après. ça serait dû à une mise à jour de testing à un moment donné qui bugait??? le laptop est parti à l'étranger, impossible et pas envie de refaire l'install pour retester. Si le comportement persiste sur une installation fraîche, c'est un bug qu'il faut rapporter. Par défaut, Wheezy doit installer GNOME et NetworkManager, qui détecte à chaud quand un cable réseau est branché ou débranché. Le CD 1 d'installation sera produit en s'assurant qu'il contiendra le paquet network-manager, afin que Debian par défaut prenne en charge le réseau sans configuration au préalable dans les mêmes conditions que ses concurrents. Bonne journée, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410131214.gg19...@falafel.plessy.net
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
Bonjour, Le 10/04/2013 14:24, Charles Plessy a écrit : Debian fonctionne très bien avec un installation par défaut, comme rappelé plus haut dans ce fil de discussion. Dans beaucoup de cas, mais c'est loin d'être une réalité (cf. mes autres mails). Et une fois de plus, je rappelle le mail source du thread, un autre passage : je suis en train de m'amuser avec un wheezy sur un laptop toshiba, dont le chip eth n'est pas supporté par la squeeze. Exemple concret. A la base, on se fiche même du niveau de l'utilisateur. Mais le même cd installé par la même personne qui installe une squeeze, je dirais que le par défaut tout marche est proche du 100% avec un Dell, un hp, asus (je ne fais pas de pub) et à moins de 50% avec un acer (beurk), fujitsu-siemens etc... -- Manu -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51656dbc.7040...@ldd.fr
Re: impossible to bring up eth0 without link up at boot time
Ooops, Le 10/04/2013 15:48, Manu Baylac a écrit : Dans beaucoup de cas, mais c'est loin d'être une réalité :s/réalité/généralité -- Manu -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/516570e9.3030...@ldd.fr
Re: samba 4 gpo
Bonjour, J'ai mis en place un domaine Samba4 depuis quelques mois, j'ai un Windows 2008 avec RSAT pour gérer facilement quelques GPO.Cela fonctionne bien, cependant j'ai un petit soucis, si par hasard quelqu'un a une idée : - Si je crée de nouvelles GPO (et donc que je ne touche pas à la Default Domain Policy), un message d'erreur est renvoyé, et les paramètres ne sont pas appliqués lorsque je clique sur 'Appliquer'. L'erreur n'est pas très explicite, mis à part un commentaire 'NT_STATUS_DENIED' ... J'aurais aimé ne pas modifier trop la stratégie par défaut du domaine. -- View this message in context: http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/samba-4-gpo-tp2899599p2911430.html Sent from the debian-user-french mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1365602037048-2911430.p...@n7.nabble.com
Lodzkie Dni IT-wiosna-2013.
Witam. Za nieco ponad tydzien bedzie kolejne spotkanie. Lodzkie dni IT. Witryna pod http://ldi.uni.lodz.pl i wydarzenie na Facebooku pod https://www.facebook.com/events/575737189112345/ Czas i miejsce. I dzień - 24 kwietnia 2013. Wydział Matematyki i Informatyki UŁ - ul. Banacha 22. II dzień - 25 kwietnia 2013. Wydział Fizyki i Informatyki Stosowanej UŁ - ul. Pomorska 149/153. Oto wstepna agenda. Agenda I dzień - 24 kwietnia 2013 - Open Source w zastosowaniach komercyjnych Wydział Matematyki i Informatyki UŁ - ul. Banacha 22 Poniżej przedstawiamy jedynie część tematów, które zostaną zaprezentowane: 09:00 - 09:30 Rejestracja uczestników 09:30 - 10:30 TypeScript – poznaj JavaScript na sterydach - Comarch 10:45 - 11:45 Temat w przygotowaniu - Accenture 12:00 - 13:00 Jeden login do wszystkiego - uwierzytelnianie i autoryzacja pomiędzy aplikacjami internetowymi - AMG.net 13:15 - 14:15 Projekty Open Source bez których nie istniałby Internet w takiej jak dziś formie - Ericpol 14:30 - 15:30 SONAR - platforma do zarządzania jakością kodu - Izabela Superson - Transition Technologies 15:45 - 16:30 GENIVI - otwarty samochód nowej generacji - Konrad Zapałowicz, Senior Software Consultant - Cybercom II dzień - 25 kwietnia 2013 - Technologie i urządzenia mobilne Wydział Fizyki i Informatyki Stosowanej UŁ - ul. Pomorska 149/153 10:00 - 10:30 Rejestracja uczestników 10:30 - 11:30 Stary, gdzie moja pamięć? - Mobica 11:45 - 12:45 Sencha Touch! Szybki sposób na wieloplatformowe aplikacje mobilne - Transition Technologies 13:00 - 13:45 Zielony robot i mapy. Nowe znaczy lepsze? - Maciej Górski, Software Consultant - Cybercom Przyjezdnym proponuje tani nocleg w Szkolnym Schronisku Mlodziezowym blizszy budynek ul. Legionow 27 , lub dalszy ul. ul. Zamenhofa 13. Witryna pod http://www.yhlodz.pl Rezerwacja pod tel. (42) 630-66-80. Pokoj 1-osobowy bez lazienki 45 zl./doba. Uczestnikom z Trojmiasta i okolic proponuje nastepujaca podorz Ja jade dzien wczesniej. Wyjazd. 23 kwietnia. Wtorek. Gdansk-Glowny godz. 7 : 10 -- Lodz-Kaliska godz. 14 : 18. TLK. 53102. Stoczniowiec. Bilet normalny w jedna strone 66 zl. (rel. Gdynia -- Krakow.) Ja pojade w wagonie 7 miejsce 66 okno. Powrot. 25 kwietnia. Czwartek. Lodz-Kaliska godz. 23 : 45 -- Gdansk-Glowny godz. 6 : 04. TLK. 45200. Pogoria. (rel. Bielsko-Biala -- Gdynia.) Obok siebie jak zwykle postawie Pingwinka TUX-a. Czy i kto mialby ochote mnie towarzyszyc w kolejnej podrozy i szerzeniu linuxowej idei Open Source? Open Source jest dziś największym i najważniejszym nurtem w sektorze IT - albo dasz się ponieść na fali, albo utoniesz próbując płynąć pod prąd... -- Konczac Pozdrawiam. Krzysztof. Registered Linux User: 253243 Powered by Aurox 11.0, Ubuntu Studio 8.04 i Fedora 9.0 Krzysztof Zubik. | kzu...@netglob.com.pl| kzu...@wp.pl http://www.kzubik.cba.pl http://wpolsce.it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165ec5e.9070...@netglob.com.pl
Statistik Penerjemahan Debian Handbook
Salam, Saya baru tahu ada fitur untuk mengetahui statistik penerjemahan di publican. Saya baru menyelesaikan bab 00a, 00b, dan 01. Bab 15 sedang proses. Ada yang tertarik untuk kontribusi? Berikut statistik penerjemahan debian handbook: $ publican lang_stats --lang=id-ID == File Name Untranslated Fuzzy Translated == id-ID/00a_preface.po 0 0337 id-ID/00b_foreword.po 0 0 3365 id-ID/01_the-debian-project.po 0 0 11127 id-ID/02_case-study.po 1778 0 1 id-ID/03_existing-setup.po 1737 0 1 id-ID/04_installation.po7417 0 1 id-ID/05_packaging-system.po8775 0 1 id-ID/06_apt.po11728 0 1 id-ID/07_solving-problems.po3612 0 1 id-ID/08_basic-configuration.po15507 0 1 id-ID/09_unix-services.po 14399 0 1 id-ID/10_network-infrastructure.po 8937 0 1 id-ID/11_network-services.po 13814 0 1 id-ID/12_advanced-administration.po19798 0 1 id-ID/13_workstation.po 5820 0 1 id-ID/14_security.po 13049 0 1 id-ID/15_debian-packaging.po 62 0 6299 id-ID/70_conclusion.po 626 0 1 id-ID/90_derivative-distributions.po1205 0 1 id-ID/92_short-remedial-course.po 5517 0 1 id-ID/Author_Group.po 4 0 1 id-ID/Book_Info.po 254 0 1 id-ID/Revision_History.po 4 0 1 id-ID/debian-handbook.po 0 0 1 == Total for id-ID 134043 0 21148 Remaining hours for id-ID 536.17 0.00 == -- Zaki Akhmad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-indonesian-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAE7Ck-SA05sswNo+K8vK-Tv2rpisYH5qucs2gfBZ0qO6V=w...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Monitorizar y cargar una determinada página web con nagios
El 2013-04-09 19:46, Maykel Franco Hernandez escribió: El abr 9, 2013 6:42 p.m., Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 18:21:27 +0200, maykel escribió: Hola muy buenas, he instalado nagios sobre debian y tengo una pequeña duda en el binario de plugin check_http. Me funciona bien y demás, el tema es que me gustaría que no sólo comprobará si está abierto el puerto, ni que existe una determinada página, sino que la cargue... ¿Que la cargue dónde, en el navegador? :-? check_http -H example.com [1] -u http://example.com/index.html [2] -- esto no me valdría, puesto que śolo comprueba si existe ésa página web. No sé si será posible, porque viendo las opciones de nagios no lo he encontrado. http://nagiosplugins.org/man/check_http [3] Hum... sin tener muy claro qué es lo que quieres hacer exactamente, Google recomienda el plugin check_selenium o check_website_speed para simular lo que sería la carga de una página web (tiempo de renderizado, etc...). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kk1gd0$e9b$5...@ger.gmane.org [4] Gracias camaleon es justo lo que necesitaba. Que me compruebe el tiempo en cargar la pagina y que si no pueda cargarla o supere um tiempo maximo me envie un correo nagios. Voy a probar a ver si lo consigo. Gracias Camaleon. Saludos. Links: -- [1] http://example.com [2] http://example.com/index.html [3] http://nagiosplugins.org/man/check_http [4] http://lists.debian.org/kk1gd0$e9b$5...@ger.gmane.org Para quien le interese, voy a poner aqui como lo he realizado al final, a más de uno le será muy útil. He usado al final el script check_website_response -- http://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Websites,-Forms-and-Transactions/Check-website-response/details Lo primero que he probado, ha sido ejecutar el script con sus parámetros de testing: ./check_website_response.sh -w 1000 -c 3000 -u www.google.es/index.html RESPONSE: OK - 50 ms|Response=50ms;1000;3000;0 Pasos que he realizado: 1- Me descargo el script y lo dejo donde están los plugins de check en /usr/lib/nagios/plugins 2- Hay que definir el script como un comando para que lo pueda usar nagios, abrimos /etc/nagios3/commands.cfg y añadimos: # ‘check_website_responce’ command definition define command{ command_name check_website_response command_line $USER1$/check_website_response.sh -u $ARG1$ -w $ARG2$ -c $ARG3$ $ARG4$ } Reiniciamos nagios3 para comprobar que no hay error de sintaxis, a mí me los ha dado porque estas lineas las he copiado de http://www.unix.com/infrastructure-monitoring/171466-nagios-check-website-command-help.html 3. Usamos el comando para monitorizar una página de un servicio web, abrimos (en mi caso) el fichero cfg donde he definido los hosts y los servicios a monitorizar y añado: define service{ use generic-service host_name prueba service_description HTTP-Load-Page check_command check_website_response!http://www.google.es/index.html!3000!4000!-nocert } Espero les sirva. Saludos y gracias por todo Camaleón. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f54f3cdbf5e880cd0fac7f8b635bc...@maykel.sytes.net
Re: [OT] Impresora multifunción WI-FI
El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:58:37 -0300, Ariel Martín Bellio escribió: El 09/04/2013 10:25 a.m., Camaleón escribió: (...) De todas formas, considera pagar 300$ por una láser a color, te aseguro que la amortizas en un año y tu corazón (tu salud en general) te lo agradecerá. Las impresoras de inyección de tinta son un auténtico saca- cuartos :-/ Lo que busco es carísimo http://computacion.mercadolibre.com.ar/impresoras/multifuncion/hp/laser-color_OrderId_PRICE :-( No sé cómo está la divisa argentina pero sí, los equipos láser/led (y encima a color) son más caros, eso ya te lo dije, pero realmente merecen la pena. Obviamente siempre dependerá del uso que le des y de la suerte que tengas con el dispositivo pero en el 95% de los casos te diría que el láser es la mejor opción. Por otra parte, considera si necesitas un equipo multifunción en lugar de una impresora ya que las impresoras láser/led son mucho más baratas que los MFD y son realmente compactas (en comparación con los equipos de hace unos años). También podrías pensar en adquirir un equipo de segunda mano donde los precios te bajan hasta casi más 50% del PVP, es cuestión de buscar. En cuanto a marcas majas (buena relación calidad-precio) para impresoras láser/led son: HP, OKI, Brother o Samsung (huye de fabricantes como Canon o Lexmark). Es importante que tengan soporte para emulación del lenguaje PostScript. Pero si realmente no tienes más posibilidad que una impresora multifunción a chorro de tinta, no lo dudes: HP. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kk3pd0$oo$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Monitorizar y cargar una determinada página web con nagios
El Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:02:17 +0200, maykel escribió: Para quien le interese, voy a poner aqui como lo he realizado al final, a más de uno le será muy útil. He usado al final el script check_website_response -- http://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Websites,-Forms-and-Transactions/Check-website-response/details (no carga la página...) Hala, ya te has cargado el sitio ;-P http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:78HvbPzaAaoJ:exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Websites,-Forms-and-Transactions/Check-website-response/details+%22check_website_response.sh%22hl=enstrip=1 Lo primero que he probado, ha sido ejecutar el script con sus parámetros de testing: ./check_website_response.sh -w 1000 -c 3000 -u www.google.es/index.html RESPONSE: OK - 50 ms|Response=50ms;1000;3000;0 (...) O sea, defines unos parámetros de tiempo límite en el plugin que entiendo son los que harán saltar una alerta administrativa en Nagios en el caso de sobrepasarse cuando esté en modo de monitorización. Mola, es como lo que tienen los de Pingdom ¿no? Prueba con una página lentorra (p. ej., http://exchange.nagios.org/;) a ver cómo te pone Nagios en Defcon 2. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kk3qig$oo$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Monitorizar y cargar una determinada página web con nagios
El 2013-04-10 13:02, may...@maykel.sytes.net escribió: El 2013-04-09 19:46, Maykel Franco Hernandez escribió: El abr 9, 2013 6:42 p.m., Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 18:21:27 +0200, maykel escribió: Hola muy buenas, he instalado nagios sobre debian y tengo una pequeña duda en el binario de plugin check_http. Me funciona bien y demás, el tema es que me gustaría que no sólo comprobará si está abierto el puerto, ni que existe una determinada página, sino que la cargue... ¿Que la cargue dónde, en el navegador? :-? check_http -H example.com [1] -u http://example.com/index.html [2] -- esto no me valdría, puesto que śolo comprueba si existe ésa página web. No sé si será posible, porque viendo las opciones de nagios no lo he encontrado. http://nagiosplugins.org/man/check_http [3] Hum... sin tener muy claro qué es lo que quieres hacer exactamente, Google recomienda el plugin check_selenium o check_website_speed para simular lo que sería la carga de una página web (tiempo de renderizado, etc...). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kk1gd0$e9b$5...@ger.gmane.org [4] Gracias camaleon es justo lo que necesitaba. Que me compruebe el tiempo en cargar la pagina y que si no pueda cargarla o supere um tiempo maximo me envie un correo nagios. Voy a probar a ver si lo consigo. Gracias Camaleon. Saludos. Links: -- [1] http://example.com [2] http://example.com/index.html [3] http://nagiosplugins.org/man/check_http [4] http://lists.debian.org/kk1gd0$e9b$5...@ger.gmane.org Para quien le interese, voy a poner aqui como lo he realizado al final, a más de uno le será muy útil. He usado al final el script check_website_response -- http://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Websites,-Forms-and-Transactions/Check-website-response/details Lo primero que he probado, ha sido ejecutar el script con sus parámetros de testing: ./check_website_response.sh -w 1000 -c 3000 -u www.google.es/index.html RESPONSE: OK - 50 ms|Response=50ms;1000;3000;0 Pasos que he realizado: 1- Me descargo el script y lo dejo donde están los plugins de check en /usr/lib/nagios/plugins 2- Hay que definir el script como un comando para que lo pueda usar nagios, abrimos /etc/nagios3/commands.cfg y añadimos: # ‘check_website_responce’ command definition define command{ command_name check_website_response command_line $USER1$/check_website_response.sh -u $ARG1$ -w $ARG2$ -c $ARG3$ $ARG4$ } Reiniciamos nagios3 para comprobar que no hay error de sintaxis, a mí me los ha dado porque estas lineas las he copiado de http://www.unix.com/infrastructure-monitoring/171466-nagios-check-website-command-help.html 3. Usamos el comando para monitorizar una página de un servicio web, abrimos (en mi caso) el fichero cfg donde he definido los hosts y los servicios a monitorizar y añado: define service{ use generic-service host_name prueba service_description HTTP-Load-Page check_command check_website_response!http://www.google.es/index.html!3000!4000!-nocert } Espero les sirva. Saludos y gracias por todo Camaleón. Una ultima cosilla, podría monitorizar nagios a los respectivos host usando snmp? es decir, como hace cacti que defines los hosts configurando snmp para obtener los datos de los servidores a monitorizar. Actualmente, uso el plugin nrpe de nagios que utiliza el puerto 5666 creo. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3ed3164cfbad116a7c819e8c701f3...@maykel.sytes.net
Re: Monitorizar y cargar una determinada página web con nagios
El Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:40:14 +0200, maykel escribió: (hay que ir borrando texto...) Una ultima cosilla, podría monitorizar nagios a los respectivos host usando snmp? es decir, como hace cacti que defines los hosts configurando snmp para obtener los datos de los servidores a monitorizar. Actualmente, uso el plugin nrpe de nagios que utiliza el puerto 5666 creo. Pues supongo que sí, vamos, debe de ser una configuración muy común :-? Tienes esto por aquí: http://nagiosplugins.org/man/check_snmp Check status of remote machines and obtain system information via SNMP Y mira... en español: Habilitar SNMP en Servidores Linux con CentOS Red Hat http://www.nagios-do.org/?p=130 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kk429d$oo$3...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Monitorizar y cargar una determinada página web con nagios
El abr 10, 2013 5:59 p.m., Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:40:14 +0200, maykel escribió: (hay que ir borrando texto...) Una ultima cosilla, podría monitorizar nagios a los respectivos host usando snmp? es decir, como hace cacti que defines los hosts configurando snmp para obtener los datos de los servidores a monitorizar. Actualmente, uso el plugin nrpe de nagios que utiliza el puerto 5666 creo. Pues supongo que sí, vamos, debe de ser una configuración muy común :-? Tienes esto por aquí: http://nagiosplugins.org/man/check_snmp Check status of remote machines and obtain system information via SNMP Y mira... en español: Habilitar SNMP en Servidores Linux con CentOS Red Hat http://www.nagios-do.org/?p=130 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kk429d$oo$3...@ger.gmane.org Muchas gracias. Pensaba que el check_snmp era para monitorizar servicio snmp. Saludos.
OT: Mucho de cierto y un poco de humor
Esto circula por acá por nuestra lista de usuarios de las tecnologías libre. Saludos y que lo disfruten. El humor también es vida. ¿Cuantos usuarios de linux son necesarios para cambiar una bombilla? http://planetubuntu.es:/post/humor-cuantos-usuarios-de-linux-son-necesarios- para-cambiar-una-bombilla - 1 para postear en el hilo que la bombilla se quemó. - 1 para sugerir que intente encender la lámpara mediante linea de comandos. - 1 a quejarse de que el usuario rompió el hilo. - 1 para preguntar que nueva bombilla va a instalar. - 1 para advertir de que no debemos utilizar la palabra fuego para referirse a que la bombilla no funciona, porque no hay combustión y que sería correcto decir que la bombilla se rompió debido a un exceso de corriente eléctrica. - 25 para sugerir la instalación de todos los tipos de bombillas existentes e imaginables. - 5 usuarios para decir que el problema de la bombilla quemada, es del upstream y no de la distro. Que hay un bug abierto en la lista de desarrolladores de la bombilla. - 1 “noob” para sugerir la instalación de una bombilla de microsoft. - 250 para inundar la casilla de correo electrónico del “noob“. - 300 para decir que una bombilla de Microsoft, se quedaría azul y tendrías que apagar y volver a encender continuamente para volver a la normalidad. - 1 ex-usuario de linux que aún frecuenta la lista, para sugerir la instalación de una iBombilla de Apple, que tiene un diseño fresco e innovador y cuesta 250 $. - 20 para decir que las iBombillas no son libres, y tiene menos funciones que una bombilla estándar que es 20 veces más barata. - 15 para sugerir la instalación de una bombilla nacional. - 30 para decir que las bombillas nacionales, son remasters mal hechos de las extranjeras y que no aportan nada nuevo. - 23 para discutir si debe ser blanca o transparente. - 1 para recordar que el nombre correcto es GNU/Bombilla. - 1 para decir que las bombillas son cosa de Winusers y que los usuarios de Linux no tienen miedo a la oscuridad. - 1 para anunciar finalmente cual será el modelo de bombilla instalada. - 217 para descartar la elegida y sugerir otra. - Media docena para reclamar que la bombilla elegida tiene elementos propietarios, y que debería ser elegida otra. - 20 para decir que una bombilla totalmente libre, no es compatible con el interruptor de la lampara. - La media docena de antes, para sugerir que el interruptor sea cambiado por otro compatible. - 1 para gritar: “PAREN DE DISCUTIR Y CAMBIEN ESA BOMBILLA POR EL AMOR DE DIOS!” - 350 para preguntar al usuario anterior de que Dios está hablando, y si tiene pruebas científicas de su existencia. - 1 para decir que no podemos confiar en las bombillas hechas por las corporaciones y que debemos confiar en las bombillas hechas por la comunidad. - 1 para postear un link de un archivo ODF que explica como construir una bombilla desde cero (from scratch). - 14 para quejarse del formato de archivo anterior y pedir que se lo envíe en txt o Latex. - 5 para decir que no les gustó la decisión tomada y van a crear un fork de la instalación eléctrica de casa e instalar una lampara mejor. - 1 para postear una serie de comandos que se deben introducir para cambiar la bombilla. - 1 para comentar que ejecutó las ordenes y recibió un mensaje de error. - 1 para advertir que los comandos se deben ejecutar como root y finalmente: - El padre del usuario inicial, que mientras todos discutían, fue al almacén de la esquina y compró la bombilla más barata. -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201304101456.53944.vcljav...@infomed.sld.cu
Re: [OT] Impresora multifunción WI-FI
El 10/04/2013 10:28 a.m., Camaleón escribió: El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:58:37 -0300, Ariel Martín Bellio escribió: El 09/04/2013 10:25 a.m., Camaleón escribió: (...) De todas formas, considera pagar 300$ por una láser a color, te aseguro que la amortizas en un año y tu corazón (tu salud en general) te lo agradecerá. Las impresoras de inyección de tinta son un auténtico saca- cuartos :-/ Lo que busco es carísimo http://computacion.mercadolibre.com.ar/impresoras/multifuncion/hp/laser-color_OrderId_PRICE :-( No sé cómo está la divisa argentina pero sí, los equipos láser/led (y encima a color) son más caros, eso ya te lo dije, pero realmente merecen la pena. Obviamente siempre dependerá del uso que le des y de la suerte que tengas con el dispositivo pero en el 95% de los casos te diría que el láser es la mejor opción. Por otra parte, considera si necesitas un equipo multifunción en lugar de una impresora ya que las impresoras láser/led son mucho más baratas que los MFD y son realmente compactas (en comparación con los equipos de hace unos años). También podrías pensar en adquirir un equipo de segunda mano donde los precios te bajan hasta casi más 50% del PVP, es cuestión de buscar. En cuanto a marcas majas (buena relación calidad-precio) para impresoras láser/led son: HP, OKI, Brother o Samsung (huye de fabricantes como Canon o Lexmark). Es importante que tengan soporte para emulación del lenguaje PostScript. Pero si realmente no tienes más posibilidad que una impresora multifunción a chorro de tinta, no lo dudes: HP. Saludos, Entiendo... Me recomendaron esta http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-455978724-impresora-hp-8600-plus-multifuncion-wifi-fax-cristal-oficio-_JM ¿Que opinan? Saludos! attachment: sisisisol.vcf
Re: OT: Mucho de cierto y un poco de humor
El 10 de abril de 2013 15:56, Javier Sánchez González vcljav...@infomed.sld.cu escribió: Esto circula por acá por nuestra lista de usuarios de las tecnologías libre. Saludos y que lo disfruten. El humor también es vida. ¿Cuantos usuarios de linux son necesarios para cambiar una bombilla? http://planetubuntu.es: /post/humor-cuantos-usuarios-de-linux-son-necesarios- para-cambiar-una-bombilla Gracias Javier, hacía mucho que no lloraba de la risa
Re: [OT] Impresora multifunción WI-FI
On 10/04/13 16:49, Ariel Martín Bellio wrote: El 10/04/2013 10:28 a.m., Camaleón escribió: El Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:58:37 -0300, Ariel Martín Bellio escribió: El 09/04/2013 10:25 a.m., Camaleón escribió: (...) De todas formas, considera pagar 300$ por una láser a color, te aseguro que la amortizas en un año y tu corazón (tu salud en general) te lo agradecerá. Las impresoras de inyección de tinta son un auténtico saca- cuartos :-/ Lo que busco es carísimo http://computacion.mercadolibre.com.ar/impresoras/multifuncion/hp/laser-color_OrderId_PRICE :-( No sé cómo está la divisa argentina pero sí, los equipos láser/led (y encima a color) son más caros, eso ya te lo dije, pero realmente merecen la pena. Obviamente siempre dependerá del uso que le des y de la suerte que tengas con el dispositivo pero en el 95% de los casos te diría que el láser es la mejor opción. Por otra parte, considera si necesitas un equipo multifunción en lugar de una impresora ya que las impresoras láser/led son mucho más baratas que los MFD y son realmente compactas (en comparación con los equipos de hace unos años). También podrías pensar en adquirir un equipo de segunda mano donde los precios te bajan hasta casi más 50% del PVP, es cuestión de buscar. En cuanto a marcas majas (buena relación calidad-precio) para impresoras láser/led son: HP, OKI, Brother o Samsung (huye de fabricantes como Canon o Lexmark). Es importante que tengan soporte para emulación del lenguaje PostScript. Pero si realmente no tienes más posibilidad que una impresora multifunción a chorro de tinta, no lo dudes: HP. Saludos, Entiendo... Me recomendaron esta http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-455978724-impresora-hp-8600-plus-multifuncion-wifi-fax-cristal-oficio-_JM ¿Que opinan? Saludos! Antes de comprar algo, asegurate que despues consigas cartuchos de tinta. me pasó de comprar una impresora y que despues el mismo vendedor me diga esos cartuchos no estan entrando -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165daf0.2030...@arnet.com.ar
Re: OT: Mucho de cierto y un poco de humor
El 10/04/13 15:56, Javier Sánchez González escribió: Esto circula por acá por nuestra lista de usuarios de las tecnologías libre. Saludos y que lo disfruten. El humor también es vida. ¿Cuantos usuarios de linux son necesarios para cambiar una bombilla? http://planetubuntu.es:/post/humor-cuantos-usuarios-de-linux-son-necesarios- para-cambiar-una-bombilla - 1 para postear en el hilo que la bombilla se quemó. - 1 para sugerir que intente encender la lámpara mediante linea de comandos. - 1 a quejarse de que el usuario rompió el hilo. - 1 para preguntar que nueva bombilla va a instalar. - 1 para advertir de que no debemos utilizar la palabra fuego para referirse a que la bombilla no funciona, porque no hay combustión y que sería correcto decir que la bombilla se rompió debido a un exceso de corriente eléctrica. - 25 para sugerir la instalación de todos los tipos de bombillas existentes e imaginables. - 5 usuarios para decir que el problema de la bombilla quemada, es del upstream y no de la distro. Que hay un bug abierto en la lista de desarrolladores de la bombilla. - 1 “noob” para sugerir la instalación de una bombilla de microsoft. - 250 para inundar la casilla de correo electrónico del “noob“. - 300 para decir que una bombilla de Microsoft, se quedaría azul y tendrías que apagar y volver a encender continuamente para volver a la normalidad. - 1 ex-usuario de linux que aún frecuenta la lista, para sugerir la instalación de una iBombilla de Apple, que tiene un diseño fresco e innovador y cuesta 250 $. - 20 para decir que las iBombillas no son libres, y tiene menos funciones que una bombilla estándar que es 20 veces más barata. - 15 para sugerir la instalación de una bombilla nacional. - 30 para decir que las bombillas nacionales, son remasters mal hechos de las extranjeras y que no aportan nada nuevo. - 23 para discutir si debe ser blanca o transparente. - 1 para recordar que el nombre correcto es GNU/Bombilla. - 1 para decir que las bombillas son cosa de Winusers y que los usuarios de Linux no tienen miedo a la oscuridad. - 1 para anunciar finalmente cual será el modelo de bombilla instalada. - 217 para descartar la elegida y sugerir otra. - Media docena para reclamar que la bombilla elegida tiene elementos propietarios, y que debería ser elegida otra. - 20 para decir que una bombilla totalmente libre, no es compatible con el interruptor de la lampara. - La media docena de antes, para sugerir que el interruptor sea cambiado por otro compatible. - 1 para gritar: “PAREN DE DISCUTIR Y CAMBIEN ESA BOMBILLA POR EL AMOR DE DIOS!” - 350 para preguntar al usuario anterior de que Dios está hablando, y si tiene pruebas científicas de su existencia. - 1 para decir que no podemos confiar en las bombillas hechas por las corporaciones y que debemos confiar en las bombillas hechas por la comunidad. - 1 para postear un link de un archivo ODF que explica como construir una bombilla desde cero (from scratch). - 14 para quejarse del formato de archivo anterior y pedir que se lo envíe en txt o Latex. - 5 para decir que no les gustó la decisión tomada y van a crear un fork de la instalación eléctrica de casa e instalar una lampara mejor. - 1 para postear una serie de comandos que se deben introducir para cambiar la bombilla. - 1 para comentar que ejecutó las ordenes y recibió un mensaje de error. - 1 para advertir que los comandos se deben ejecutar como root y finalmente: - El padre del usuario inicial, que mientras todos discutían, fue al almacén de la esquina y compró la bombilla más barata. Muy bueno. Acabo de enlazarlo en el grupo de Debian en facebook. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/516611e2.7070...@gmail.com
câmeras + ip dinâmico + NOip
Olá a todos, Preciso acessar de fora da rede duas câmeras que estão na empresa.Aqui a internet o IP é dinâmico então fiz um cadastro no site do NOip criei um domínio lá mas não consigoacessar as câmeras pelo navegador.O que preciso verificar ? Porta 80 esta liberada mas como direciono para que quando digite o endereço caia no IP da câmera ?Alguém ja passou por algo semelhante ?
Fwd: câmeras + ip dinâmico + NOip
-- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com Data: 10 de abril de 2013 17:04 Assunto: Re: câmeras + ip dinâmico + NOip Para: Rodrigo Silva rodrigo...@live.com http://ip:PORTA Em 10 de abril de 2013 16:53, Rodrigo Silva rodrigo...@live.com escreveu: Olá a todos, Preciso acessar de fora da rede duas câmeras que estão na empresa. Aqui a internet o IP é dinâmico então fiz um cadastro no site do NOip criei um domínio lá mas não consigo acessar as câmeras pelo navegador.O que preciso verificar ? Porta 80 esta liberada mas como direciono para que quando digite o endereço caia no IP da câmera ? Alguém ja passou por algo semelhante ?
Re: Fwd: câmeras + ip dinâmico + NOip
Esplique melhor sua estrutura de rede. Em 10/04/2013 18:05, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu: -- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com Data: 10 de abril de 2013 17:04 Assunto: Re: câmeras + ip dinâmico + NOip Para: Rodrigo Silva rodrigo...@live.com http://ip:PORTA Em 10 de abril de 2013 16:53, Rodrigo Silva rodrigo...@live.comescreveu: Olá a todos, Preciso acessar de fora da rede duas câmeras que estão na empresa. Aqui a internet o IP é dinâmico então fiz um cadastro no site do NOip criei um domínio lá mas não consigo acessar as câmeras pelo navegador.O que preciso verificar ? Porta 80 esta liberada mas como direciono para que quando digite o endereço caia no IP da câmera ? Alguém ja passou por algo semelhante ?
[OFF]Emulador de Swicth SAN
Caros, boa noite! Alguem na lista ja ouvi falar de algum emulador de switch SAN. Att. -- Leandro Moreira Network Administrator LPIC1 - Linux Professional Institute Certified e-mail/msn: lean...@leandromoreira.eti.br Tel.: + 55(32) 9906-5713
Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)
On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: To be honest, I must admit I found them absolutely useless too in tiling layout. But in stacked or tabbed ones, how could I see on what kind of window I'll go if I can not see their titles? (I guess this is why they are preserved by i3 in those layouts?) If I understand, what you want is a fullscreen mode where you can still switch windows? Spectrwm doesn't have stacked windows in the way that i3 does. It has much the same layouts as dwm, xmonad etc., i.e. with a master window plus others beside it or beneath it, or fullscreen. Amyway, I'd say that both these are very good tiling WMs, and it's a matter of personal taste which you prefer. Of course, tiling WMs in general are an acquired taste and they are not for everyone. -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk http://www.acampbell.org.uk http://www.reviewbooks.org.uk http://www.skepticviews.org.uk http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410072606.gd16...@acampbell.org.uk
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
Le Mar 9 avril 2013 18:59, David Christensen a écrit : I have used the proprietary NVIDIA driver in the past, but would like to use the free Debian drivers instead. Free NVidia drivers by Debian does *not* exists. There is only a package which installs NVidia's drivers. The easier and simpler, if you do not need good 3D acceleration is to install nouveau instead of NVidia, which is a driver made from reverse engineering. In last kernels (around 3.8), it seems that there is also support for better 3D acceleration, however I did not tried it since Debian at the moment only have that kernel in experimental (and when I tried it, few things broke. Did not investigate though). Nouveau have the very good feature of not needing any Xorg.conf file: you install it, you boot with it, it detects everything alone. In short: _ nouveau: free software, perfect integration in the system, average and unfinished support (in linux 3.2 kernel) of 3D harware acceleration, support all cards: both new and old(nouveau-vieu is what you would want). _ NVidia: proprietary software, bad integration in the system, support for advanced 3D features, no support for old cards. 2. How do I determine the current color depth (e.g. 8/16/24 bits per pixel)? IIRC: xrandr --output port you used: VGA, HMDI, etc --list 3. How do I change the display settings -- resolution, refresh, color depth? xrandr --output port you used --mode your parameters Play with xrandr in a terminal emulator, and when you have what you want, add the command to your DE's startup list (depends on your DEs) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/fa889e62f916e1ac2600cc11dcf07cbe.squir...@www.sud-ouest.org
Re: Pioneer BDR-*206* Internal Blu-Ray Disc DVD/CD writer and Debian
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 01:54:37PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: On 04/03/13 22:05, David Christensen wrote: I looks like it's time for a backup/ wipe/ reinstall cycle. [cut] 9. Another pop-up appears Error while burning. Merging of data is impossible with this disc. I click Save log (see below). Any suggestions? TIA, David $ cat brasero-session.log Checking session consistency (brasero_burn_check_session_consistency brasero-burn.c:1741) Session error : Merging data is impossible with this disc (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2839) According to this[1] bug (found by searching the internet for Merging data is impossible with this disc), brasero doesn't support BluRay discs. [1]https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/637379 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 10:51 +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: In last kernels (around 3.8), it seems that there is also support for better 3D acceleration Nouveau was a PITA for a long time, but nowadays it usually works like a charm, 3D acceleration is very good. xrandr As mentioned by me in a previous post. You might need a modeline and you can get the needed values by The command cvt resolution v-frequency, e.g.: cvt 1152 864 90 Regards, Ralf -- Political correctness I'm working for human rights and childcare, one of my latest jobs was working 1 year with children from more than 40 nations. Many of them ask for political asylum, because they will be killed in their countries. Everybody who calls me a racist, please send me a list with Islamic nations that care for human rights. Another issue is sexism. In Germany we've got locations where it's forbidden for male musicians to doff a t-shirt on stage. Everybody who advocate this, please send me recommendations how to avoid a heat stroke. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1365586104.2607.390.camel@archlinux
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
Le Mer 10 avril 2013 11:28, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 10:51 +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: In last kernels (around 3.8), it seems that there is also support for better 3D acceleration Nouveau was a PITA for a long time, but nowadays it usually works like a charm, 3D acceleration is very good. It is not still not working like a charm, since I tried kernel 3.8 to try a game (regnum online, bugged as hell, but at least it have a linux client which is playable) which perfectly works with official NVidia. The result with nouveau of 3.8 was only a black screen (for 3.2 the game simply said that some features were lacking and closed). Another problem I know by following linuxfr, is that automatic adjustment of fan speed according to temperature is not functional. At least, according to a guy who claimed to be a contributor of nouveau :) (I did not checked his assertions, I have other things to do than mistrust people which give fairly good technical explanations and are recognized by more ancient people of the community than me) There is still a lack of support for dual card configuration (I have such configuration, but I do not use it anyway: my two cards are just cheap ones and the second were bought after an error of mine about which component of my computer was out of order...) and IIRC card switching that we can find in some portable computers. Of course, those features which are lacking are only for special cases, and for all other stuff, nouveau is really good, my intent is not to deny that fact, and I am waiting impatiently to see the 3.8 kernel in debian testing, to get rid of that piece of crap named nvidia drivers, which only give me problems and the ability to play one or two games I could not otherwise play (nexuiz is still unplayable with nouveau 3.2 too, but it's engine really became a PITA in performance point of view). Wesnoth, unvanquished, openmw and so many other which have a free engine works like a charm (on the graphic point of view, since I have real problems with unvanquished, which I should try to solve, one day, because this game is a really good -and different than average FPS- one). Anyway, nouveau have always (since I know it, so, not so many time, maybe 2 years :D) be the best when you have no need for 3D features. And now, 3D features are coming, so, I will profit from that message to say Good job, guys, and thanks you a lot! to it's developers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/83e6924edb2e84492401e587040a0fc9.squir...@www.sud-ouest.org
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
Yes, AFAIK all your claims a correct! I needed the nv driver for a long time, because nouveau completely didn't work, today it can be possible (but it also still can be impossible) to use 3D and even to use the driver for real-time applications, even for cards that completely didn't work in the past. It's much better than it was a long time ago. At the moment I use my ATI, it seems to be less good supported than my NVIDIA. I switch the cards from time to time, regarding to unusual needs, in my case it's audio real-time. I still use xorg.conf, but it could be that xrandr does work as good as the xorg.conf does work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1365588144.2607.402.camel@archlinux
wheezy still missing php5-suhosin
Hi, I'm working on a server replacement, the old (current) server is running latest stable release and the new server is running from this downloaded installer ISO: debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso Now, php5-suhosin provides some real protection against programming problems that could very easily exist and it is not uncommon to see messages from Debian stable installs reporting bugs / vulnerabilities detected by suhosin It seems to me that this is an essential package for most servers running PHP5 and it's non-availability is a very serious concern. I've found the following: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php-suhosin/news/20120320T163911Z.html Will php5-suhosin be re-instated any time soon? And if not, what measures can we take to protect Wheezy servers now? Thanks AndrewM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165409b.9000...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: text from serial port + IP camera + Debian for loss prevention?
Nick Lidakis wrote: Forgive me if I'm not using the proper terminology or not explaining this properly. This aspect of running a small business is foreign to me. My wife and I run a small independent coffee shop and I'm the geek in charge. I've got m0n0wall running great with the customer wifi on DMZ and all our machines on a private LAN. We've got a recycled Pentium 4 running Debian stable for our Music Player Daemon server. Motherboard is a Tyan with real serial ports. We have a mid-line Casio cash register setup that has 2 serial ports. 1 is dedicated to the credit card machine. The other can be connected to a serial pole display. I understand that this second serial port outputs formatted text of all buttons pressed and transactions processed. This is also useful for overlaying this text with a CCTV camera connected to a DVR. Though, this setup limits how you can search for mistakes or theft, having to sift through hours of video. I'd like to do the following with Debian: Use the text from the serial port in conjunction with an IP network camera connected to our server. I'd like to be able to search the text for particular triggers, e.g., look at video whenever someone hits the NS (no sale) key to open the drawer. I think I can connect the Casio to one of the serial ports on the server and capture data through tty(?). The text would not necessarily need to be overlayed but must sync with the video. The Casio has a pretty accurate clock, running on 60Hz; the IP camera can sync via NTP on our m0n0wall router. I've Googled a few commercial solutions but they are very expensive and are proprietary. One is this: http://www.geovision.com.tw/english/Prod_GVDataV3E.asp I'm thinking something like this must have been done with Linux for other fields, e.g., scientific sensors outputting text on a live stream. Any ideas or suggestions? A keyword is framegrabber or frame grabber {note alternative spellings}. www.google.com/search?q=frame+grabber+linux and www.google.com/search?q=framegrabber+linux give a different mix of results. Browsing the links may provide ideas. HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51654c49.7000...@cloud85.net
Re: text from serial port + IP camera + Debian for loss prevention?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:28:44AM +0200, sp113438 wrote: I know there is a program that records audio. It records several seconds/minutes to memory and writes the interval to disk when a button is hit. I forgot it's name :-( You need something similar, but for video. Timemachine is the program: Timemachine writes the last 10 seconds of audio _before_ the button press and everything from now on up to the next button press into a WAV-file. The idea is that you doodle away with whatever is kicking around in your studio and when you heard an interesting noise, you'd press record and capture it, without having to try and recreate it. But I don't want to record just triggered events. The IP camera will be recording from open to close. I'd like to archive the whole day's cash registers journal as well. Integrating the two and searching based on triggers or text would be the key. If I wanted to search latte the DVR would show me all the video footage of lattes being rung up; same for when the No Sale key was hit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410114714.GA7446@phobos
Re: wheezy still missing php5-suhosin
Le Mer 10 avril 2013 12:36, Andrew McGlashan a écrit : Will php5-suhosin be re-instated any time soon? I have no clue about what instated means :) And if not, what measures can we take to protect Wheezy servers now? Maybe you can reuse the old package. Check the dependencies, it is possible that there has been no changes in them. If there has been, take a look to applications' changelogs, to see if the new versions are compatible with the existing dependencies. As you might know, there is a more or less standard versioning scheme named semantic versioning (it is quite easy to understand even for a non-native english user like me. You can find it's description here: http://semver.org/). If dependencies uses it, you will be able to check compatibility quite quickly: if major number did not changed, then you are fine. Of course, since you are willing to use this tool on a production server, I strongly encourage you to take a look into changelogs and/or ask to their developers to ensure nothing should be broken. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1c745219c5708a1fbe6875efe44ab43f.squir...@www.sud-ouest.org
Re: wheezy still missing php5-suhosin
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 01:54:43PM +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Mer 10 avril 2013 12:36, Andrew McGlashan a écrit : Will php5-suhosin be re-instated any time soon? I have no clue about what instated means :) https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/reinstate signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: sync apt/dpkg state between systems?
Hello Bob, Excerpt from Bob Proulx: -- snip -- Let me tell you why i suggested etckeeper. Here i use it to commit /etc into $VCS on a regularly basis. This helps me to keep track of what is going on in /etc. Being able to compare my modifications with the original is a feature you surely will not miss anymore, after you get used to it. This is where our strategy of attack on the problem is different. I started from the idea that there are a lot of files in /etc but only a few of them need to be excluded from the restoration. Therefore identify the files that should be excluded. Then restore everything *except* for the files that should be excluded. Whereas I think you were started from the idea that there a lot of files in /etc and only the known okay files to restore should be restored. Identify the files that should be restored and only restore those files. Basically one strategy is include all but those excluded and the other strategy is exclude all but those included. I think we are in agreement that some files must be restored and some files must be excluded. We differ on the technique to get there. Excellent summary! It is like positiv vs. negativ logic in bollean algebra. If you know the rules with both you can reach your goal, just the way in between is different. -- snip -- Dpkg::Options { --force-confdef; --force-confold; --force-confmiss; } credits for this go to: http://raphaelhertzog.com That controls the behavior of dpkg when it would normally stop and interact with the user admin who is installing or upgrading a package about the handling of a conffile. Should you install the new package file, keep the existing file, or merge them? Or see the differences between them? The above answers those questions globally so that it never stops to ask a question. I fully agree with confmiss. I routinely set that too. But I have seen heated arguments from people who have argued (apparently successfully because the change went in) that removing a required /etc file is a desired configuration and that it must be preserved. (Regarding the /etc/network/interfaces file.) This adds yet another logical state to be considered. I use a system configuration management system similar to cfengine, puppet, chef that I have programmed to configure the system. I have directed it to read-modify-write various configuration files to set them as desired. In that type of environment it is advantageous to me to use confnew. With confnew I will always get the package version of the file with the package default configuration. Which will then immediately be reconfigured into my desired configuration by the system management tool. I understand we do have a common understanding of handling such things. As i do not have to administer a bulk of systems i differ in that i do not have the need for an advanced configuration system as cfengine. But apart from that my workflow to handle /etc is similar to yours. With 'confold' dpkg by default keeps the configuration that is already in place in production and installs new configurations from DMs as foo.dpkg-dist. My VCS then notifies me about new or changed files and the i go through them and merge them as i see fit. -- snip -- * Exclude /etc/fstab * Exclude /etc/lvm * Exclude /etc/mdadm + /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume Ha! I always use lvm and so for me the names in the /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume file are always logical names and would be the same across systems. But point taken. If that is a UUID then it should be excluded from the restore. here on my system it does: $ grep -o 'RESUME=UUID=..' /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume RESUME=UUID=7bb317c1-e Plus there is your note about ethernet addresses. In addition to the 70-persistent-net.rules file that may also affect people using guessnet or other such networking packages. ..and maybe some more. This is why i would look into the difference prior to rsyncing. After i had become confident i would use rsync, too. At the center between the strategies of include and exclude is the need to identify which files must be included in the restoration and which files must be excluded. Having that list then we would restore what should be included and avoid those that should be excluded. I think you and I would both identify these files on-the-fly by seeing the files, by looking at the file contents, by other dynamic decision making. But I fear that for many people that would be beyond their level of skill. Our discussion shows that it isn't trivial. It takes some experience. Can we document what we have learned from this discussion? Would someone be able to follow that documentation and successfully peform a restoration as described? Is it possible to create a script that would analyze the backup and the new system and would then identify the files that should be included and
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
Le Mer 10 avril 2013 12:02, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : Yes, AFAIK all your claims a correct! I needed the nv driver for a long time, because nouveau completely didn't work, today it can be possible (but it also still can be impossible) to use 3D and even to use the driver for real-time applications, even for cards that completely didn't work in the past. It's much better than it was a long time ago. At the moment I use my ATI, it seems to be less good supported than my NVIDIA. I switch the cards from time to time, regarding to unusual needs, in my case it's audio real-time. I still use xorg.conf, but it could be that xrandr does work as good as the xorg.conf does work. The main interest of xrandr in my opinion is, that it is far easier to play with than what I can easily name the ugly Xorg.conf. Here are some examples: _ user can configure his screen himself, no need to sudo or su _ no need to restart anything, it's dynamic. You can add/move/remove/resize screens without any problem at your will. _ far easier to learn for a beginner: it took less than 10 minutes, while Xorg.conf will require hours of web browsing. And web browsing without a good resolution is a pain in... _ if your multiple screens have different resolutions, there is no ghost space, so you can not loose your mouse cursor. _ it have nice GUI interfaces (I do not use them, but I think it is a power to have some) like lxrandr. So if you want a normal user to use it, he will not need to learn anything :) Considering that my 2 computers are some of the cheapest I know about (an eeepc laptop and a desktop repaired multiple times with 2 different screens, and one which will blow it's 10th candle this year, with its 1024x768 max resolution :D) this power of the randr extension is really comfortable. And nouveau supports all of this out of the box since at least 2 years, unlike NVidia. I think you should take a look at this http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix if you want to have a good viewing of were it is for your GPU. Just one question: what is the link between audio stuff and graphic card? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e5473090038f6b9c40e4c8b424c49e22.squir...@www.sud-ouest.org
Re: Pioneer BDR-*206* Internal Blu-Ray Disc DVD/CD writer and Debian
Hi, According to this[1] bug (found by searching the internet for Merging data is impossible with this disc), brasero doesn't support BluRay discs. [1]https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/637379 Well, that bug seems somewhat outdated. But of course, Debian packages are outdated too. Maybe this bug is even too young for Brasero 2.30 as is packaged in Debian 6. Current Brasero source from git seems to have clue of BD media. Other than xfburn, where BD media might work nevertheless, because i cannot spot code for their rejection and because libburn supports them in version 0.8.0 of Debian 6. So there remains xorriso command line. Like xorriso -outdev /dev/sr0 -map ./my_disk_file /my_iso_file which puts the file ./my_disk_file as /my_iso_file into a ISO 9660 + Rock Ridge filesystem on the blank medium in /dev/sr0. The BD-R medium will stay appendable, i.e. more files can be added in further sessions until the medium is full. For adding another session: xorriso -dev /dev/sr0 -map ./some_disk_directory /some_iso_directory Good for about 300 sessions on the same BD-R. More than one -map command can be used in one run to add multiple files or directories. (Actually there are lots of commands available.) This should work even with the frightening old xorriso-0.5.6 as packaged for Debian 6. After unfreezing of Debian, i hope for xorriso-tcltk to appear in testing. It is half way between GUI and command line :)) http://www.gnu.org/software/xorriso/xorriso-tcltk-screen.gif Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/10941633369932428...@scdbackup.webframe.org
Re: Fixing a half-configured package
Hello Bob, Excerpt from Bob Proulx: -- snip -- I will pull back to the safer higher level tool dpkg-reconfigure which runs the postinst scripts. root@junk:~# dpkg-reconfigure nfs-kernel-server insserv: Service nfs-common has to be enabled to start service nfs-kernel-server insserv: exiting now! update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header To fix it means enabling nfs-common to start. This can be done with update-rc.d but the safe answer is to use dpkg-reconfigure and let it run the postinst script. Here is the fix. root@junk:~# dpkg-reconfigure nfs-common Stopping NFS common utilities: idmapd statd. Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd. root@junk:~# dpkg-reconfigure nfs-kernel-server Stopping NFS kernel daemon: mountd nfsd. Unexporting directories for NFS kernel daemon Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon Starting NFS kernel daemon: nfsd mountd. Bob Thank you for your analysis of the problem. I did learn new things from that! -- Regards, Thilo 4096R/0xC70B1A8F 721B 1BA0 095C 1ABA 3FC6 7C18 89A4 A2A0 C70B 1A8F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:25:59 +0200, Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Just one question: what is the link between audio stuff and graphic card? One claim is, that shared memory could cause issues. I own a card with it's own memory and currently I use an onboard device, that does share RAM for frame buffer. I can't confirm this claim. Shared memory seemingly never caused issues for me. Sometimes when getting xruns (audio glitches), they can go away when using another graphics or graphics driver. Using proprietary drivers sometimes doesn't work with real-time patched kernels, regarding to licensing issues. There are workarounds to ignore the license, that often do not work. Instead of using a real-time kernl, it's possible to use a full preempted kernel and as boot option using threadirqs, however, a real-time patched kernel still could be a little bit better than a full preempted and since the hardware registers aren't accessible directly by PCs, as it is possible for the C64, Atari ST, PC anyway don't have that good real-time abilities, so IMO it's better to use a rt-patched kernel. Last but not least, as for all hardware, the graphics could share the IRQ with the sound device, fortunately modern kernels seem to ensure that the graphics get it's own IRQ. On my machine 2 USB ports, the graphics and my sound card share IRQ 18. With modern kernels, the graphics gets another IRQ and I wrote a script to unbind the USB ports. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wvbti9asqhadp0@suse11-2
RAID 6 mdadm
i was watch a person's video regarding RAID 6 with mdadm his configuration was very low, some old system probably 2GB RAM, 3x8TB Hard Drives, 4port Ethernet card for channeling. and the guy was giving review of his home server. he says he will channel the 4 port Ethernet to achive 4Gbps network throughput. and 2 drive redundancy with RAID6. my question is since i can not invest that huge money for testing so just asking from experience users. isn't it going to be a problem because of bottleneck and limited throughput of SATA 7200 rpm 3TB drives? actually what i need is 4GB LAN throughput with teaming (802.3ad) for data storage to backup VMs and same huge data manipulations will be done. so just confused if it going to work or not. Thanks, MYK
Re: RAID 6 mdadm
On 10/04/13 10:15 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: i was watch a person's video regarding RAID 6 with mdadm his configuration was very low, some old system probably 2GB RAM, 3x8TB Hard Drives, 4port Ethernet card for channeling. and the guy was giving review of his home server. he says he will channel the 4 port Ethernet to achive 4Gbps network throughput. and 2 drive redundancy with RAID6. my question is since i can not invest that huge money for testing so just asking from experience users. isn't it going to be a problem because of bottleneck and limited throughput of SATA 7200 rpm 3TB drives? actually what i need is 4GB LAN throughput with teaming (802.3ad) for data storage to backup VMs and same huge data manipulations will be done. so just confused if it going to work or not. Thanks, MYK That's an odd setup. Why use RAID6 with only 3 drives? He'd get better performance with RAID1 with only 3 drives. However, your question is about performance. My RAID5 array with SATA 2 drives gets about 200MBps. SATA 3 performance should be double that. Caching is critical. Disk access is dramatically slower than memory access so that your real throughput will depend on how much disk access can be avoided or optimized. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165796f.2070...@rogers.com
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49:14AM +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: [Nouveau]'s not still not working like a charm, since I tried kernel 3.8 to try a game (regnum online, bugged as hell, but at least it have a linux client which is playable) which perfectly works with official NVidia. The result with nouveau of 3.8 was only a black screen (for 3.2 the game simply said that some features were lacking and closed). For *you*, which does not mean that this is the experience for *everyone*. Therefore there's no reason to try and discourage *anyone else* from using Nouveau, unless you know categorically what in particular about your setup is to blame for your troubles (e.g. a specific video card), and the person you are discouraging has the same setup. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410144332.GB4314@debian
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
David, Since you are willing and able to reinstall from scratch, it may be worth trying the next release of Debian, currently considered 'testing', known as 'wheezy'. You can get wheezy Release Candidate 1 release installation media from here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ Wheezy is to be released imminently, so it should not be significantly more unstable to use than you would expect from a stable release. However it is much newer than squeeze, and the open source nouveau driver has been under rapid development, so the version in wheezy is likely to have a much larger set of supported cards, and many bugs squashed compared to squeeze. Once you've done that, if you could try attaching a Xorg.0.log that results in running X *without an xorg.conf*, that may be useful too. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410144637.GC4314@debian
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 07:21:22PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I recommend to use a more or less classical xorg.conf. I'm still using CRTs myself. From my current Ubuntu: OP beware, please do not try something like Ralf's xorg.conf yourself. For a start, it specifies the radeon driver; but it also declares modelines that may not be appropriate to your monitor, which in extreme cases could result in hardware damage, apparently. Modern X should not require any xorg.conf at all, with all relevant information automatically detected, and the goal here should be to get you to a desired resolution without introducing one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410144900.GD4314@debian
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 11:43:44PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: When opening your links they were not good formatted, they are being sent (incorrectly) as content-type: text/html, so web browsers will try to render them as HTML - but a simple tool like 'GET' is OK: $ GET http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/squeeze/amd64/X/a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410145329.GF4314@debian
RE: RAID 6 mdadm
-Original Message- From: Gary Dale [mailto:garyd...@rogers.com] Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 12:39 AM To: debian Subject: Re: RAID 6 mdadm On 10/04/13 10:15 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: i was watch a person's video regarding RAID 6 with mdadm his configuration was very low, some old system probably 2GB RAM, 3x8TB Hard Drives, 4port Ethernet card for channeling. and the guy was giving review of his home server. he says he will channel the 4 port Ethernet to achive 4Gbps network throughput. and 2 drive redundancy with RAID6. my question is since i can not invest that huge money for testing so just asking from experience users. isn't it going to be a problem because of bottleneck and limited throughput of SATA 7200 rpm 3TB drives? actually what i need is 4GB LAN throughput with teaming (802.3ad) for data storage to backup VMs and same huge data manipulations will be done. so just confused if it going to work or not. Thanks, MYK That's an odd setup. Why use RAID6 with only 3 drives? He'd get better performance with RAID1 with only 3 drives. However, your question is about performance. My RAID5 array with SATA 2 drives gets about 200MBps. SATA 3 performance should be double that. Caching is critical. Disk access is dramatically slower than memory access so that your real throughput will depend on how much disk access can be avoided or optimized. This is really not debian related at all -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165796f.2070...@rogers.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002901ce35fd$20ec7b10$62c57130$@riseup.net
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
Le Mer 10 avril 2013 16:43, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49:14AM +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: [Nouveau]'s not still not working like a charm, since I tried kernel 3.8 to try a game (regnum online, bugged as hell, but at least it have a linux client which is playable) which perfectly works with official NVidia. The result with nouveau of 3.8 was only a black screen (for 3.2 the game simply said that some features were lacking and closed). For *you*, which does not mean that this is the experience for *everyone*. Therefore there's no reason to try and discourage *anyone else* from using Nouveau, unless you know categorically what in particular about your setup is to blame for your troubles (e.g. a specific video card), and the person you are discouraging has the same setup. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49:14AM +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: Of course, those features which are lacking are only for special cases, and for all other stuff, nouveau is really good, my intent is not to deny that fact, and I am waiting impatiently to see the 3.8 kernel in debian testing, to get rid of that piece of crap named nvidia drivers, which only give me problems and the ability to play one or two games I could not otherwise play This other part of my message was also explaining that it depends on the needs of the person which want to try it. The cases were it currently does not fit the needs of people is when heavy 3D acceleration, optimius support, or dynamic fan speed depending on temperature is needed. In other situations, I have not said it was not a good idea, did I? I also said that the kernel 3.8 seems to have a fairly bettre version of nouveau driver, which I was not able to test efficiently due to problems I did not even tried to diagnose and fix. I thought it was clear, but is sounds it was not, so I present my apologies, and thanks you to have fixed my unclear words. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5aee3254a878e990cb3e0c1f80a43979.squir...@www.sud-ouest.org
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On 2013-04-10 16:46 +0200, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Since you are willing and able to reinstall from scratch, it may be worth trying the next release of Debian, currently considered 'testing', known as 'wheezy'. You can get wheezy Release Candidate 1 release installation media from here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ Wheezy is to be released imminently, so it should not be significantly more unstable to use than you would expect from a stable release. However it is much newer than squeeze, and the open source nouveau driver has been under rapid development, so the version in wheezy is likely to have a much larger set of supported cards, and many bugs squashed compared to squeeze. While this is true in general, there are many known issues with David's card (GeForce 6150), and I would not recommend to use it with Nouveau. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hajexvn5@turtle.gmx.de
Re: RAID 6 mdadm
exactly, i am using RAID 1 with mdadm and not more then 230 or 300MB throughput. and the people are harnessing 4GB so this is the point where i am confused On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote: On 10/04/13 10:15 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: i was watch a person's video regarding RAID 6 with mdadm his configuration was very low, some old system probably 2GB RAM, 3x8TB Hard Drives, 4port Ethernet card for channeling. and the guy was giving review of his home server. he says he will channel the 4 port Ethernet to achive 4Gbps network throughput. and 2 drive redundancy with RAID6. my question is since i can not invest that huge money for testing so just asking from experience users. isn't it going to be a problem because of bottleneck and limited throughput of SATA 7200 rpm 3TB drives? actually what i need is 4GB LAN throughput with teaming (802.3ad) for data storage to backup VMs and same huge data manipulations will be done. so just confused if it going to work or not. Thanks, MYK That's an odd setup. Why use RAID6 with only 3 drives? He'd get better performance with RAID1 with only 3 drives. However, your question is about performance. My RAID5 array with SATA 2 drives gets about 200MBps. SATA 3 performance should be double that. Caching is critical. Disk access is dramatically slower than memory access so that your real throughput will depend on how much disk access can be avoided or optimized. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.**debian.orgdebian-user-requ...@lists.debian.orgwith a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**5165796f.2070...@rogers.comhttp://lists.debian.org/5165796f.2070...@rogers.com
A home directory on removeable storage ...
... is possible. I understand the concept of mounting the filesystem. Additionally there can be a backup home directory which stays with the machine, on a hdd for example. I imagine that when the machine powers up without the removeable storage, the backup home directory is instated. When the removeable storage is connected, the backup is remounted as another directory in /home and the removeable is mounted as the home. So for example, without the removeable present /home/peter is on the hdd. With the removeable present, /home/peter is on that and the hdd is /home/peter.bak with the same ownership and privilages as /home/peter. With udev, it might be accomplished with one or two scripts. This can't be an original idea. Is it available? Thanks,... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057994.34243.26614@cantor.invalid
Re: A home directory on removeable storage ...
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 08:23:03AM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: ... is possible. I understand the concept of mounting the filesystem. Additionally there can be a backup home directory which stays with the machine, on a hdd for example. I imagine that when the machine powers up without the removeable storage, the backup home directory is instated. When the removeable storage is connected, the backup is remounted as another directory in /home and the removeable is mounted as the home. So for example, without the removeable present /home/peter is on the hdd. With the removeable present, /home/peter is on that and the hdd is /home/peter.bak with the same ownership and privilages as /home/peter. With udev, it might be accomplished with one or two scripts. This can't be an original idea. Is it available? Is pam_mount of any use to you? It's intended for mounting home directories on login. I'm not sure how you'd access the original /home/peter once you'd mounted the removable home on top of it, though. Someone will know how, though. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: RAID 6 mdadm
Am Wednesday 10 April 2013 17:21:35 schrieb Muhammad Yousuf Khan: exactly, i am using RAID 1 with mdadm and not more then 230 or 300MB throughput. and the people are harnessing 4GB so this is the point where i am confused You cannot get more than about 200MB/s out of a RAID1 setup, not even with 15krpm SAS drives. the RAID1 will never be faster than a single disk. How would it. If you want to saturate 4G*bit* ethernet (gigaBIT! not byte!) which comes down to 500MB/s raw across all interfaces, so 125MB/s on one nic you definetly do *not* want linux softraid 6. either patch up the kernel with ZFS or if you wanna cross the t's and dot the i's: get a HP Proliant N40L, put a KVR1333D3E9SK2/16G 2x8GB ECC mem kit in it, install FreeNAS, add 4 7k2 rpm drives of your choice and create a z-raid over it, you should see 400MB/s. Has 2 slots, on pcie16x, one 1x so should take a 4xGBE card and there you go. Due to the massive caching and whatnot zraid uses and hence the amount of data in the 16GB make sure it's UPS backed. So far we're looking at roundabout 450 USD without disks and UPS, but you'll have one heck of a NAS. Now, *this* totally is not debian anymore, so back on topic: I have a 5x1500GB raid5 from 72krpm sata drives and without optimizations, LVM2 and xfs on top of it get about 80MB/s write speed. raid6 probably would slow to a crawl (platform is a core i5 quad @2.3GHz) On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote: On 10/04/13 10:15 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: i was watch a person's video regarding RAID 6 with mdadm his configuration was very low, some old system probably 2GB RAM, 3x8TB Hard Drives, 4port Ethernet card for channeling. There is no such thing as a 8TB hard drive in the year 2013 and the guy was giving review of his home server. he says he will channel the 4 port Ethernet to achive 4Gbps network throughput. and 2 drive redundancy with RAID6. ...maybe 8x3TB rahter with 2 spares? my question is since i can not invest that huge money for testing so just asking from experience users. isn't it going to be a problem because of bottleneck and limited throughput of SATA 7200 rpm 3TB drives? actually what i need is 4GB LAN throughput with teaming (802.3ad) for data storage to backup VMs and same huge data manipulations will be done. so just confused if it going to work or not. VM storage: make that N40L FreeNAS a N54L and use block dedup. Cost more, but worth it. -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C UL++ P+++ L+++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h++ r* y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
which operation leads to the close all opening terminals
Hi, Right now, I have three or four terminals open, with 1 to 5 tabs in each terminal, most are ssh out. In one terminal, I typed more just one blink, all those terminal-emulators gone. It's my first time meet this issue. So I wonder which may lead to this episode? Thanks, Best regards, $ dpkg --get-selections | grep termin gnome-terminal install gnome-terminal-data install terminal.appinstall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51658cdd.2080...@gmail.com
Re: RAID 6 mdadm
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 17:57 +0200, Dexter Filmore wrote: Am Wednesday 10 April 2013 17:21:35 schrieb Muhammad Yousuf Khan: exactly, i am using RAID 1 with mdadm and not more then 230 or 300MB throughput. and the people are harnessing 4GB so this is the point where i am confused You cannot get more than about 200MB/s out of a RAID1 setup, not even with 15krpm SAS drives. the RAID1 will never be faster than a single disk. How would it. It can read faster than a single disk by combining reads from different sectors on different disks. I think your assertion is incorrect for reading, though not for writing. Ross Boylan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1365609908.29211.12.ca...@corn.betterworld.us
Re: which operation leads to the close all opening terminals
On 04/10/2013 06:01 PM, lina wrote: Hi, Right now, I have three or four terminals open, with 1 to 5 tabs in each terminal, most are ssh out. In one terminal, I typed more just one blink, all those terminal-emulators gone. It's my first time meet this issue. So I wonder which may lead to this episode? Thanks, Best regards, $ dpkg --get-selections | grep termin gnome-terminal install gnome-terminal-data install terminal.appinstall Imho, the geeks are interested in the output of `dmesg' and the contents of `/var/log/syslog'. The closer in time to the incident, the better. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51659a49.7010...@online.de
Re: A home directory on removeable storage ...
Am Mittwoch, 10. April 2013 schrieb peasth...@shaw.ca: ... is possible. I understand the concept of mounting the filesystem. Additionally there can be a backup home directory which stays with the machine, on a hdd for example. I imagine that when the machine powers up without the removeable storage, the backup home directory is instated. When the removeable storage is connected, the backup is remounted as another directory in /home and the removeable is mounted as the home. So for example, without the removeable present /home/peter is on the hdd. With the removeable present, /home/peter is on that and the hdd is /home/peter.bak with the same ownership and privilages as /home/peter. With udev, it might be accomplished with one or two scripts. This can't be an original idea. Is it available? If you mount a new filesystem onto an mount point of an already mounted filesystem, processes which have their current working directory within the mount point will not recognize the change. The Linux kernel doesn´t take the original filesystem away from these processes unless the change their directory to outside of the mount point and then inside of it again. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201304101923.01860.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: which operation leads to the close all opening terminals
Am Mittwoch, 10. April 2013 schrieb Benjamin Egner: On 04/10/2013 06:01 PM, lina wrote: Hi, Right now, I have three or four terminals open, with 1 to 5 tabs in each terminal, most are ssh out. In one terminal, I typed more just one blink, all those terminal-emulators gone. It's my first time meet this issue. So I wonder which may lead to this episode? Thanks, Best regards, $ dpkg --get-selections | grep termin gnome-terminal install gnome-terminal-data install terminal.appinstall Imho, the geeks are interested in the output of `dmesg' and the contents of `/var/log/syslog'. The closer in time to the incident, the better. I´d also be interested in ~/.xsession-errors by the time of the incident. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201304101923.58699.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: wheezy still missing php5-suhosin
Andrew McGlashan wrote: Now, php5-suhosin provides some real protection against programming problems that could very easily exist and it is not uncommon to see messages from Debian stable installs reporting bugs / vulnerabilities detected by suhosin The question isn't whether the suhosin patch did good with older PHP versions. The question is whether newer PHP versions benefit as much from it. Because in recent years AIUI many of the features of suhosin were merged into the mainline PHP. And supporting suhosin isn't easy. At least some other distros have also stopped supporting it too. Will php5-suhosin be re-instated any time soon? And if not, what measures can we take to protect Wheezy servers now? Here is a good place to read up on the current state of PHP plus suhosin in Debian. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657698 It is a long thread with a lot of references to research. Grab a comfortable chair and a stimulating beverage. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: RAID 6 mdadm
Am Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:05:08 schrieb Ross Boylan: You cannot get more than about 200MB/s out of a RAID1 setup, not even with 15krpm SAS drives. the RAID1 will never be faster than a single disk. How would it. It can read faster than a single disk by combining reads from different sectors on different disks. I think your assertion is incorrect for reading, though not for writing. Ross Boylan Then dm would have to manage/combine the reads from the involved disks. I do not know better, but I doubt this is done. I'll ask the raid list for curiousity's sake. -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C UL++ P+++ L+++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h++ r* y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: which operation leads to the close all opening terminals
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:01:33AM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, Right now, I have three or four terminals open, with 1 to 5 tabs in each terminal, most are ssh out. In one terminal, I typed more just one blink, all those terminal-emulators gone. It's my first time meet this issue. So I wonder which may lead to this episode? Without data, we can only speculate. Here's my wild speculation: You thought you had multiple terminals open, but what you had was a single master process with multiple sub-processes. A failure of some kind happened in the master process and when it died, it took all the children with it. -dsr- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410172438.gg27...@randomstring.org
Re (2): A home directory on removeable storage ...
From: Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 16:32:18 +0100 I'm not sure how you'd access the original /home/peter once you'd mounted the removable home on top of it, ... The removeable shouldn't be mounted over the non-removeable. First unmount the non-removeable and mount it on /home/peter1, for example. Then mount the removeable on /home/peter. Is pam_mount of any use to you? It's intended for mounting home directories on login. The remount-followed-by-mount should be independent of login. Similarly, if the removeable storage is removed, then the non-removeable filesystem should be moved back to /home/peter, for example. Anything for mounting specifically at login does not appear to be appropriate. I imagine a script invoked by udev where insertion of storage triggers remount-followed-by-mount and removal triggers the remount. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057994.43658.26615@cantor.invalid
Re (2): A home directory on removeable storage ...
From: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:23:01 +0200 If you mount a new filesystem onto an mount point of an already mounted filesystem, ... Please review my original posting. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057994.45313.26616@cantor.invalid
Re: wheezy still missing php5-suhosin
Hi Bob, On 11/04/2013 3:26 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Andrew McGlashan wrote: Now, php5-suhosin provides some real protection against programming problems that could very easily exist and it is not uncommon to see messages from Debian stable installs reporting bugs / vulnerabilities detected by suhosin The question isn't whether the suhosin patch did good with older PHP versions. The question is whether newer PHP versions benefit as much from it. Because in recent years AIUI many of the features of suhosin were merged into the mainline PHP. And supporting suhosin isn't easy. At least some other distros have also stopped supporting it too. I understand that Ubuntu have 12.10 locked in on 5.3.9 because of lack of Suhosin patch / support. Don't know what later Ubuntu will be doing. Will php5-suhosin be re-instated any time soon? And if not, what measures can we take to protect Wheezy servers now? Here is a good place to read up on the current state of PHP plus suhosin in Debian. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657698 It is a long thread with a lot of references to research. Grab a comfortable chair and a stimulating beverage. Great, thank you very much for your post and the reference. To cut a long story short, if PHP upstream has incorporated the features of Suhosin, then we should be fine; is it the final conclusion from that long thread and all the references from it, that we are in good shape with 5.4.4 -- better than pre 5.4 with Suhosin? Thanks. AndrewM signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On 04/10/13 01:51, Morel Bérenger wrote: 2. How do I determine the current color depth xrandr --outputport you used: VGA, HMDI, etc --list xrandr works: dpchrist@a64x23800p:~$ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.0* 800x60060.3 56.2 848x48060.0 640x48059.9 DVI-D-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) TV-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) My xrandr apparently has no --output X --list option: dpchrist@a64x23800p:~$ xrandr --output VGA-1 --list usage: xrandr [options] where options are: -display display or -d display -help -o normal,inverted,left,right,0,1,2,3 or --orientation normal,inverted,left,right,0,1,2,3 -qor --query -s size/widthxheight or --size size/widthxheight -r rate or --rate rate or --refresh rate -vor --version -x(reflect in x) -y(reflect in y) --screen screen --verbose --dryrun --nograb --prop or --properties --fb widthxheight --fbmm widthxheight --dpi dpi/output --output output --auto --mode mode --preferred --pos xxy --rate rate or --refresh rate --reflect normal,x,y,xy --rotate normal,inverted,left,right --left-of output --right-of output --above output --below output --same-as output --set property value --scale xxy --transform a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i --off --crtc crtc --panning wxh[+x+y[/track:wxh+x+y[/border:l/t/r/b]]] --gamma r:g:b --primary --noprimary --newmode name clock MHz hdisp hsync-start hsync-end htotal vdisp vsync-start vsync-end vtotal [+HSync] [-HSync] [+VSync] [-VSync] --rmmode name --addmode output name --delmode output name xrandr --output X --refresh produces similar output. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165b166.1080...@holgerdanske.com
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On 04/10/13 07:46, Jonathan Dowland wrote: ... it may be worth trying the next release of Debian, currently considered 'testing', known as 'wheezy'. I'll keep it in mind; certainly when Wheezy becomes the new stable. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165b25e.9020...@holgerdanske.com
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On 04/10/13 07:53, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 11:43:44PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: When opening your links they were not good formatted, Agreed. Iceweasle seems to be dropping the newlines and folding the lines together. View - Page Source looks much better. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165b31f.2050...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Information not on relavant man page - where to find on WEB?
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:48:26 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Man pages generally do not include information some users would find vital. In fact http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=introsektion=1apropos=0manpath=Debian+6.0+squeezetitle=Introduction%20Section%201 explicitly states in part: ... Man pages are terse, and allow you to find quickly some forgotten detail. For newcomers an introductory text with more examples and explanations is useful. and later states: A lot of GNU/FSF software is provided with info files. I often do not have available a functioning Linux system, thus my need for web based source of information. My current problem is proper use of dpkg-scanpackages. I need examples of its typical and atypical use. I need those to give me the background for a sensible question. Pointers please. TIA Try the info package -- it should be installed on your system. Enter info info at a terminal. Then enter info dpkg. After that, you're on your own. -- cmg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410151241.043ff330.cgrigs...@att.net
Re: Information not on relavant man page - where to find on WEB?
Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:48:26 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Man pages generally do not include information some users would find vital. In fact http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=introsektion=1apropos=0manpath=Debian+6.0+squeezetitle=Introduction%20Section%201 explicitly states in part: ... Man pages are terse, and allow you to find quickly some forgotten detail. For newcomers an introductory text with more examples and explanations is useful. and later states: A lot of GNU/FSF software is provided with info files. I often do not have available a functioning Linux system, thus my need for web based source of information. My current problem is proper use of dpkg-scanpackages. I need examples of its typical and atypical use. I need those to give me the background for a sensible question. Pointers please. TIA Try the info package -- it should be installed on your system. Enter info info at a terminal. Then enter info dpkg. After that, you're on your own. -- cmg BUT I SAID I often do not have available a functioning Linux system, thus my need for web based source of information. That is my current situation, hence my explicit request for we based information ;/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165bb34.5020...@cloud85.net
Re: Partitioning problem
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 01:52:57PM +0200, Alexandre De Muer wrote: Hi, When installing from Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 6.0.7 Squeeze - Official kfreebsd-i386 DVD Binary-1 20130223-17:32the following problem issued from guided partition layout:unable to set mount from file-system type swap on ** to none. The hardware I'm using: AMD Athlon XP 2200+, MSI 6511 ver1 motherboard, 386 Mb RAM, 250 Gb Maxtor drive.I'm a regular user and wanted to hear what fix exists for this problem. Alexandre De Muer Since there doesn't seem to be any users of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD on this list who can help you, you may have better luck on the debian-bsd list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/ -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410192355.GD29469@tal
Re: wheezy still missing php5-suhosin
Andrew McGlashan wrote: To cut a long story short, if PHP upstream has incorporated the features of Suhosin, then we should be fine; is it the final conclusion from that long thread and all the references from it, that we are in good shape with 5.4.4 -- better than pre 5.4 with Suhosin? To be honest I have not read through all of that information myself yet in enough detail to know one way or the other. It really needs the skills of an upstream interpreter developer to know. I would love to hear from someone who is familiar with the code well enough to make an intelligent summary. What I have read (caution unverified) is that the PHP interpreter isn't intrinsically insecure. It only becomes that way when used with insecure php code. Which makes sense. Any upstream interpreter vulnerability would have a CVE number associated with it that would be tracked. I see people calling for those reports but none are being provided for any current vulnerabilities. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Information not on relavant man page - where to find on WEB?
On 04/10/2013 09:19 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:48:26 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Man pages generally do not include information some users would find vital. In fact http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=introsektion=1apropos=0manpath=Debian+6.0+squeezetitle=Introduction%20Section%201 explicitly states in part: ... Man pages are terse, and allow you to find quickly some forgotten detail. For newcomers an introductory text with more examples and explanations is useful. and later states: A lot of GNU/FSF software is provided with info files. I often do not have available a functioning Linux system, thus my need for web based source of information. My current problem is proper use of dpkg-scanpackages. I need examples of its typical and atypical use. I need those to give me the background for a sensible question. Often the info-pages do not give any additional details (I have just verified this for dpkg-scanpackages where both info and manpage seemed equal after a quick glance). However, I can not help you with dpkg-scanpackages-usage. Pointers please. TIA Try the info package -- it should be installed on your system. Enter info info at a terminal. Then enter info dpkg. After that, you're on your own. -- cmg BUT I SAID I often do not have available a functioning Linux system, thus my need for web based source of information. That is my current situation, hence my explicit request for we based information ;/ -- http://masysma.ohost.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165c00a.6010...@web.de
Re: RAID 6 mdadm
On 10/04/13 12:05 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 17:57 +0200, Dexter Filmore wrote: Am Wednesday 10 April 2013 17:21:35 schrieb Muhammad Yousuf Khan: exactly, i am using RAID 1 with mdadm and not more then 230 or 300MB throughput. and the people are harnessing 4GB so this is the point where i am confused You cannot get more than about 200MB/s out of a RAID1 setup, not even with 15krpm SAS drives. the RAID1 will never be faster than a single disk. How would it. It can read faster than a single disk by combining reads from different sectors on different disks. I think your assertion is incorrect for reading, though not for writing. Ross Boylan Exactly. Most data is read more often than it is written so that read performance is critical. In the particular setup of RAID6 with only 3 drives, each drive gets the same amount of information as they would in RAID1 so that write performance also does not change. However RAID1 requires less CPU time and is arguably more reliable (please let's not start a debate on this - it's not a big issue). The advantage of RAID6 comes when you have 4 or more disks. Because each disk then gets only part of the data, write performance can improve. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165c1c2.7010...@rogers.com
Re: Information not on relavant man page - where to find on WEB?
Richard Owlett wrote: I often do not have available a functioning Linux system, thus my need for web based source of information. The FreeBSD man page site is an excellent source for online web access to various system man pages. More than just FreeBSD. They are hosting the service but include access to many other systems man pages. Unfortunately Debian is not among them. But I mention it for you in your quest for online man pages. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi Debian man pages are provided here at this site: http://manpages.debian.net/ My current problem is proper use of dpkg-scanpackages. I need examples of its typical and atypical use. I need those to give me the background for a sensible question. The online debian man page for dpkg-scanpackages is available here: http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=dpkg-scanpackagesapropos=0sektion=0manpath=Debian+6.0+squeezeformat=htmllocale=en The Debian wiki is also a good source of information. Follow the links through from it and you will find a HOWTO document on it. http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository As an alternative many people use other package pool management systems. Such as reprepro. I have converted over to using it and am happy with it. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Information not on relavant man page - where to find on WEB?
Linux-Fan wrote: Often the info-pages do not give any additional details (I have just verified this for dpkg-scanpackages where both info and manpage seemed equal after a quick glance). Uhm... Are you sure you were looking at info pages? AFAIK the dpkg-dev package which includes dpkg-scanpackages does not provide any info pages. It only provides man pages. I think you must have been looking at the man page in the info viewer which falls back to man pages if no info pages are present. I think this entire subthread talking about info pages is a red herring and off the scent of looking for dpkg-scanpackages documentation. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Data Archiving
On 08/04/13 20:59, Rob Owens wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 09:30:52AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: As for as OCR vs retyping vs scan and preses - still up in the air at this point. I suspect that all three methods might be used. There are commercial companies that will do bulk scanning and OCR. I used one in the past and I found the price to be pretty reasonable. I'm not sure if anybody has OCR software that works on hand-written documents, though... -Rob If the database / digital storage space is not a problem I'd rather suggest storing scanned documents as they are (in graphical format) - you never know when this may come handy. Sometimes you want to see how the document looked like, not just to read its content only. And OCRed version for searching purposes, linked with the images. I remember there was a (commercial, MS Windows) Russian OCR software some years ago, really good working then; probably it could handle handwriting to some extent: http://finereader.abbyy.com/ I never used it for handwritten text though. Another option is to hire some teenagers or students who'd like to earn some additional money if you have funds for that - both ways need proof-reading afterwards. Not sure which database would be good for storing images; is MySQL capable of managing it in an efficient way; perhaps Postgress SQL or another solution is better. You could also store the images on the drive and keep links (paths) to the images in the database. Did you try contacting other institutions which might have similar needs - what do they use? Kind regards, Michal -- Michal R. Hoffmann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165c6c2.20...@o2.pl
Re: Information not on relavant man page - where to find on WEB?
Bob Proulx wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I often do not have available a functioning Linux system, thus my need for web based source of information. The FreeBSD man page site is an excellent source for online web access to various system man pages. More than just FreeBSD. They are hosting the service but include access to many other systems man pages. Unfortunately Debian is not among them. But I mention it for you in your quest for online man pages. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi Debian man pages are provided here at this site: http://manpages.debian.net/ My current problem is proper use of dpkg-scanpackages. I need examples of its typical and atypical use. I need those to give me the background for a sensible question. The online debian man page for dpkg-scanpackages is available here: http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=dpkg-scanpackagesapropos=0sektion=0manpath=Debian+6.0+squeezeformat=htmllocale=en Where I started ;) The Debian wiki is also a good source of information. Follow the links through from it and you will find a HOWTO document on it. http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository It had given me just enough to tantalize. As an alternative many people use other package pool management systems. Such as reprepro. I have converted over to using it and am happy with it. I saw that mentioned in passing once. This time I browsed its man page. By the breadth of options it may be overkill but it appears capable. I am impressed with the additional documentation available. So far I've had a quick look at http://wiki.debian.org/SettingUpSignedAptRepositoryWithReprepro http://www.jejik.com/articles/2006/09/setting_up_and_managing_an_apt_repository_with_reprepro/ http://git.debian.org/?p=mirrorer/reprepro.git;a=blob_plain;f=docs/manual.html;hb=HEAD http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=mirrorer/reprepro.git;a=blob_plain;f=docs/FAQ;hb=HEAD A detailed read and link following should keep me occupied for a while. There are advantages to retirement ;) Thanks. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165d6f2.4010...@cloud85.net
Re: RAID 6 mdadm
On 4/10/2013 9:15 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: actually what i need is 4GB LAN throughput with teaming (802.3ad) for data storage to backup VMs and same huge data manipulations will be done. so just confused if it going to work or not. Addressing the bonded ethernet issue: 802.3ad LACP configured at the switch and within the Linux bonding driver will facilitate TRANSMIT TCP stream load balancing. However, it does nothing to address RECEIVE load balancing. Your application is a ~100% receive workload. So LACP is out. Linux balance-alb is required to achieve any level of receive load balancing. It does not require bonding support in the switch. And it only works with IPv4. See: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt Addressing the storage issue: RAID6 only has good write performance in a single scenario: large single streaming writes, such as video recording, large file backup, etc. If your writes are smaller than stripe width you incur read-modify-write cycles. These can triple (or more) the number of heads seeks per drive required to complete the write, and you suffer the extra rotational latency in between the seeks. Thus if you're performing multiple partial stripe width writes in parallel, then your performance, even with expensive hardware, will drop into the teens of MB/s. And if you're doing multiple streams RAID6 isn't suitable simply due to the extra head seek and rotational latency of double rotating parity writes. So if you're serious about achieving an aggregate 400MB/s of write throughput to the array, with this workload, you're very likely not going to get there with 8x 7.2K SATA drives in RAID6. Depending on how many concurrent backup streams you're running, and what filesystem you're using, you might get close to 400MB/s using 10 drives in RAID10. The more concurrent jobs, the more spindles you need to mitigate the extra seeks. This will also greatly depend on your backup job write pattern, and thus the chunk/stripe width you select for the array. The RAID parameters must match the application write pattern or performance may be horrible. And lastly, select the right filesystem for the job. EXT3/4 are not suitable for large parallel streaming writes. You will likely need XFS for this workload for optimal performance, and you'll need to align the filesystem to the md/RAID stripe parameters during mkfs. If you're directly formatting the md/RAID device, mkfs.xfs will query the kernel and configure proper alignment automatically. If you use LVM between md/RAID and XFS then you'll need to do manual alignment during mkfs.xfs. Parting thought: It's very easy to get 400MB/s write throughput from an 8 SATA drive md/RAID6 array when doing single streaming writes from 'dd' or other simple one dimensional tests. However, achieving 400MB/s with real workloads is a completely different matter and much more demanding. Most of the md/RAID throughput data you'll find via Google comes from these one dimensional simplistic tests. Don't trust this information. Look for specific workload tests or synthetic benchmark data from bonnie, iozone, etc. While these won't precisely mimic your workload, they give a much better picture of potential real world performance. And the numbers will always be much, much smaller than 'dd' numbers. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165db76.8010...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: RAID 6 mdadm
On 4/10/2013 12:32 PM, Dexter Filmore wrote: Am Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:05:08 schrieb Ross Boylan: You cannot get more than about 200MB/s out of a RAID1 setup, not even with 15krpm SAS drives. the RAID1 will never be faster than a single disk. How would it. It can read faster than a single disk by combining reads from different sectors on different disks. I think your assertion is incorrect for reading, though not for writing. Ross Boylan Then dm would have to manage/combine the reads from the involved disks. I do not know better, but I doubt this is done. I'll ask the raid list for curiousity's sake. It's not necessary to ask on linux-raid, and as you have not yet done so, I'll clarify this now: Both the md RAID1 and RAID10 personalities will read sectors in parallel from both disks in a mirror pair in most circumstances. This has been the case for many years. This is a read optimization only. Writes occur in parallel as well, obviously, but as it's the same data the net data throughput isn't doubled, only the raw device throughput. This should be obvious to anyone. I'm merely being complete in my description. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165df94.8000...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Wed 10 Apr 2013 at 11:37:26 -0700, David Christensen wrote: xrandr works: dpchrist@a64x23800p:~$ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.0* 800x60060.3 56.2 848x48060.0 640x48059.9 DVI-D-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) TV-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) You have a monitor which can do 1600x1200 but xorg can only see fit to give you 1024x768. This may be because the monitor is not providing suitable information to xorg, so it serves up 1024x768 so as not to disappoint you. Look at the Xorg log in /var/log and search in particular for 'EDID'. Is there anything like that or references to monitor resolution there? My xrandr apparently has no --output X --list option: Neither has anyone elses. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410232816.GB30093@desktop
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
I deleted the earlier messages. Hopefully, this is appropriate: I wrote a startup script to fix my resolution aka `add new modes' to the ones xrandr is showing you. -- #!/bin/bash # Purpose: Setting the monitor parameters for Samsung 943nw # Date: 2013-03-19 # Author: BE # Source: For the startup-script idea: # http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16t=78330 # # # modeline obtained manually via `gtf' call. xrandr --newmode 1440x900_70.00 126.98 1440 1536 1688 1936 900 901 904 937 -HSync +Vsync xrandr --addmode VBOX0 1440x900_70.00 xrandr --output VBOX0 --mode 1440x900_70.00 -- 1. You have to create _your_ modelines 2. Replace VBOX0 with what you see when you run xrandr alone. 3. Hopefully shed tears of joy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165fb27.5040...@online.de
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On 04/10/13 16:28, Brian wrote: dpchrist@a64x23800p:~$ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.0* 800x60060.3 56.2 848x48060.0 640x48059.9 DVI-D-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) TV-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) You have a monitor which can do 1600x1200 but xorg can only see fit to give you 1024x768. This may be because the monitor is not providing suitable information to xorg, so it serves up 1024x768 so as not to disappoint you. I have a KVM (IOGEAR GCS78)that doesn't seem to pass through monitor information. :-( Normally, I provide monitor information to the X server via xorg.conf, using the xorg.conf.new generated by Xorg -configure as a starting point. But, as I stated before, the generated xorg.conf.new is broken. Look at the Xorg log in /var/log and search in particular for 'EDID'. Is there anything like that or references to monitor resolution there? Looking at: http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/squeeze/amd64/X/a64x23800p-20130409-141117-Xorg.0.log I see: (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output VGA-1 (II) NOUVEAU(0): Not using default mode 640x350 (vrefresh out of range) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Not using default mode 320x175 (vrefresh out of range) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Not using default mode 640x400 (vrefresh out of range) ... (II) NOUVEAU(0): Not using default mode 1024x768 (vrefresh out of range) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Not using default mode 2048x1536 (vrefresh out of range) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Not using default mode 1024x768 (vrefresh out of range) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Printing probed modes for output VGA-1 (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1024x768x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 800x600x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 800x600x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 848x480x60.0 33.75 848 864 976 1088 480 486 494 517 +hsync +vsync (31.0 kHz) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 640x480x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 489 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output DVI-D-1 (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output TV-1 (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output VGA-1 connected (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DVI-D-1 disconnected (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output TV-1 disconnected (II) NOUVEAU(0): Using fuzzy aspect match for initial modes (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output VGA-1 using initial mode 1024x768 David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165fade.3010...@holgerdanske.com
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Wed 10 Apr 2013 at 16:50:54 -0700, David Christensen wrote: I have a KVM (IOGEAR GCS78)that doesn't seem to pass through monitor information. :-( Normally, I provide monitor information to the X server via xorg.conf, using the xorg.conf.new generated by Xorg -configure as a starting point. But, as I stated before, the generated xorg.conf.new is broken. First test the display resolution you want to have as described by Benjamin. If it works you can use my xorg.conf as a basis to write yours: Section Device Identifier FX5200 Driver nouveau EndSection Section Monitor Identifier 1905FP Modeline 1280x1024 115.00 1280 1368 1496 1712 1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync HorizSync 30-81 VertRefresh 56-76 EndSection Section Screen IdentifierDefault Screen DeviceFX5200 Monitor 1905FP DefaultDepth 16 SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x1024 EndSubSection EndSection I used 'cvt 1280 1024' to get the Modeline. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130411001052.GC30093@desktop
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 15:53 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 11:43:44PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: When opening your links they were not good formatted, they are being sent (incorrectly) as content-type: text/html, so web browsers will try to render them as HTML - but a simple tool like 'GET' is OK: $ GET http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/squeeze/amd64/X/a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new What's the package name for Debian that does include GET? I only found this: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_GET.htm *?* On Arch I found perl-libwww ... [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Ql perl-libwww | grep perl/lwp perl-libwww /usr/bin/vendor_perl/lwp-download perl-libwww /usr/bin/vendor_perl/lwp-dump perl-libwww /usr/bin/vendor_perl/lwp-mirror perl-libwww /usr/bin/vendor_perl/lwp-request [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ lwp-download http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/squeeze/amd64/X/a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new Saving to 'a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new.html'... 2.63 KB received [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new.html ... cat does show it correctly formatted, but this already does work using wget. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ rm a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new.html [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ wget http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/squeeze/amd64/X/a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new --2013-04-11 04:34:09-- http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/squeeze/amd64/X/a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new [snip] [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1365647917.2427.4.camel@archlinux
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 11:44 -0700, David Christensen wrote: On 04/10/13 07:53, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 11:43:44PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: When opening your links they were not good formatted, Agreed. Iceweasle seems to be dropping the newlines and folding the lines together. View - Page Source looks much better. For Firefox 20.0 it does work with Right click View Page Source I didn't know that. It's not provided by the View-menu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1365648370.2427.6.camel@archlinux
Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 01:52 +0200, Benjamin Egner wrote: I deleted the earlier messages. Hopefully, this is appropriate: I wrote a startup script to fix my resolution aka `add new modes' to the ones xrandr is showing you. -- #!/bin/bash # Purpose: Setting the monitor parameters for Samsung 943nw # Date: 2013-03-19 # Author: BE # Source: For the startup-script idea: # http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16t=78330 # # # modeline obtained manually via `gtf' call. xrandr --newmode 1440x900_70.00 126.98 1440 1536 1688 1936 900 901 904 937 -HSync +Vsync xrandr --addmode VBOX0 1440x900_70.00 xrandr --output VBOX0 --mode 1440x900_70.00 -- 1. You have to create _your_ modelines 2. Replace VBOX0 with what you see when you run xrandr alone. 3. Hopefully shed tears of joy As mentioned by me in two previous posts. You might need a modeline and you can get the needed values by the command cvt resolution v-frequency, e.g.: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cvt 1152 864 90 # 1152x864 89.80 Hz (CVT) hsync: 81.99 kHz; pclk: 127.25 MHz Modeline 1152x864_90.00 127.25 1152 1232 1352 1552 864 867 871 913 -hsync +vsync Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1365648597.2427.8.camel@archlinux
Indonesia Corporate Financial Reporting
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Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?
Ralf Mardorf wrote: What's the package name for Debian that does include GET? $ apt-file search /usr/bin/GET libwww-perl: /usr/bin/GET ... cat does show it correctly formatted, but this already does work using wget. Huh? Works fine for me. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ wget http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/squeeze/amd64/X/a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new --2013-04-11 04:34:09-- http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/squeeze/amd64/X/a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new [snip] [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat a64x23800p-20130409-140018-xorg.conf.new Yep. Works fine here. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wheezy still missing php5-suhosin
On 11/04/2013 5:40 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: What I have read (caution unverified) is that the PHP interpreter isn't intrinsically insecure. It only becomes that way when used with insecure php code. Which makes sense. Any upstream interpreter vulnerability would have a CVE number associated with it that would be tracked. I see people calling for those reports but none are being provided for any current vulnerabilities. Yes, but insecure code is so easy to make and even the so called experts are making them. There is even an O'Reilly book that has wrong information that is leading programmers astray. The protections provided by Suhosin in the past may _always_ be required and necessary. It's not as bad as 95% of people running Java are using older versions that are known to be exploitable, but there is plenty of exploitable PHP code -- some may remain for years on non-patched servers, but new and properly patched servers shouldn't be part of the problem. PHP needs to, upstream, make sure that programming flaws cannot be exploited and that is what Suhosin aims to achieve. Bad code will be there, we need to be protected from it one way or another. Cheers A. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: which operation leads to the close all opening terminals
Imho, the geeks are interested in the output of `dmesg' and the contents of `/var/log/syslog'. Apr 10 23:57:01 dove kernel: [130001.429581] gnome-terminal[6910]: segfault at 1 ip 7fbbadb22816 sp 7e7fc7c0 error 4 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.3200.4 [7fbbadb0b000+4e000] Is it related? The closer in time to the incident, the better. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51663e67.3050...@gmail.com
Re: which operation leads to the close all opening terminals
I´d also be interested in ~/.xsession-errors by the time of the incident. ** (xfce4-session:4890): WARNING **: ICE connection 0x7f00400422b0 rejected ** (gnome-terminal:22938): WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager : Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51663ed6.20...@gmail.com
Starting Iceweasel
Dear list - Thanks for all your help. Finally, I can start Iceweasel from the command line [sort of]: iceweasel -no-remote localhost/choice.php width $1280 height $800 The above works. But ... in a store.desktop multiple windows are opened. #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Store Program snip Exec=iceweasel -no-remote localhost/choice.php width $1280 height $800 Terminal=false X-MultipleArgs=false Type=Application Icon=iceweasel Categories=Network;WebBrowser; MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png; StartupWMClass=Firefox-bin StartupNotify=true = FYI Iceweasel is NOT running when I issue the command or click on the icon. TIA Ethan PS The suggestions on migrating icedove to Thunderbird look excellent. I'm reasonably good at three things at one time, but six is a little much. As soon as I can climb out of the hole I am in, I'll do the migration and give a detailed answer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51663f08.6080...@hygeiabiomedical.com
Re: which operation leads to the close all opening terminals
Without data, we can only speculate. Here's my wild speculation: You thought you had multiple terminals open, but what you had was a single master process with multiple sub-processes. A I did have multiple terminals open. It only happened once, at least in what I can recall. failure of some kind happened in the master process and when it died, it took all the children with it. -dsr- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51663f24.2010...@gmail.com
Mac Mini EFI issues
Hello all, I've been installing wheezy on a Mini for most of the afternoon/evening, and I'm nearly there. The first issue with the install was that grub-pc is installed by default, so I had to manually purge it and install grub-efi before reboot. grub-efi installation was also highly manual and still not complete. Second problem was that that partman set the partition type to EF00 on the root filesystem… So nothing could see it. I manually changed it to 8300 (using gdisk), not sure if that was correct or not, but it has at least let the Mac side see it as something other than Free Space. However, Fuse-ext2 still doesn't see it, so perhaps the partition tag is still wrong. I'm at the point now that grub-efi gives me a command prompt (when EFI loaded from holding down the option key, aka Apple Boot Selector or something), with zero configuration. Got that covered, except the kernel won't load due to not finding the root filesystem (root=/dev/sdb3 not working). I'm about to try UUID next. Course, I had to boot off CD again to find the UUID... rEFInd still doesn't see the bootable Linux partition. But that's out of scope of this mailing list. So my question is: should setting this up have been so difficult? Or is it just not optimized for an Intel Mac and they are inherently problematic? Or did I do things wrong? I am trying to avoid a hybrid partition table, as there will be no Windows on this (well, not directly). My actual goal is to run this Debian install as Xen dom0 and migrate the existing MacOS X into a domU plus add windows as well. But that's a later step. Any suggestions appreciated! Thanks, Aaron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d75cae14-a6cf-4284-8fb5-fc3244cf5...@gmail.com