Re: How to arrange for booting to console

[davidson]

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016, Harry Putnam wrote:


That sounds promissing.  Used one of the methods below and quickly
realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
much higher resolution than the standard. (Previously my OS of choice
was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup as I recall it
is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf

Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
a console frame buffer.


Maybe OP will find this thread helpful:

 "Debian Jessie : regular console instead of a hi-res one!"
 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00127.html

Re: Gnome 3.21: how to define compose key?

[davidson]

On Mon, 12 Sep 2016, david...@freevolt.org wrote:


And if I wanted that behavior all the time, I would edit the file
/etc/default/keyboard, adding compose:rwin to the comma-separated list
of pairs in XKBOPTIONS.


Of course, editing that file will change the default system-wide, for
everybody. Even, erm, Mark! (...if running Ubuntu.)

Maybe that is not what you want.

Re: SSH Connection Behind A Router/Firewall

[Arun Khan]

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Tim McDonough  wrote:
> I have a very straightforward Debian Jessie machine on my network. For SSH
> it uses the standard/default Port 22 and accessing it via ssh works just
> fine from anywhere on the local network.
>
> I also have a NetGear router configured so that a connection from the
> outside world using Port 1024 gets forwarded to the local IP and Port 22 on
> the LAN. My problem is when I attempt a connection from the outside world
> the connection is refused.

Presuming the ssh "client" is on the WAN, have you set the
"destination" port to 1024 in that client?
For example in *nix box, it would be "ssh -p 1024 someuser@your_wan_pub_ip"

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Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

[Felix Miata]

David Wright composed on 2016-09-11 21:44 (UTC-0500):
...

Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

...
How is it beneficial to list anyone here or searching list archives to 
continue a thread by chastising an OP for being imperfect more than 12 hours 
after OP added string "solved" to the subject and thanked people who provided 
useful help?


https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00398.html
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Re: Fwd: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

[David Wright]

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 18:49:47 (-0400), Alan McConnell wrote:
> From: "Brian" 
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:51:50 PM
> Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved
> 
> On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 15:17:00 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
> 
> > On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
> > 
> > > Addendum:  during my Jessie install, the install program commented at one 
> > > point:
> > > "There doesn't seem to be any other OS on your system".  Jeez!!  I hope 
> > > some
> > > maintainer reads this complaint and Debian  works hard to make sure that 
> > > the
> > 
> > What is the exact name and version of this OS which is not found?
> >  Windows 10.  If there is a more exact name, I don't know it.
> 
> Deconstruction of this statement follows:
> Brian, you are in a bad temper.  Did you read the amended title of 
> this
> and previous messages? "Problem solved".
>  
> Suggestion: simply don't reply to any of my (perhaps) forthcoming 
> questions
> and/or comments.  That will save both you and me time and spare us 
> both
> annoyance.

This is a summary of what I've gleaned from your posts:

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00296.html
 How do I boot the new jessie installation?

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00337.html
 I don't need [rescue mode].
 I played with the BIOS.
 I am busy installing stuff.
 How do I do it? [sic]

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00364.html
 Do I want to install a different grub?
 I'd like a response from one of them(if they exist here) letting me
 know how [a dual boot system] works.

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00398.html
 What works for me now is the following: [and your solution]
 I shudder to think of someone taking my advice [etc]
 Jeez!!  I hope some maintainer reads this complaint and Debian  works
 hard to make sure that the operation of installing a second OS(Linux)
 on a Windoze box is as easy and error-proof as it is possible to make it.

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00408.html
 Why?  why all this?  What good will it do? to anyone?  To do this I'd
 have to get out of this URL(mail.his.com), shut down my Windoze,
 reboot to Jessie, copy the output you are requesting to a piece of
 paper, and then get back here.(*)
 May I ask: are you the Debian installation maintainer?  if you are,
 I'd be happy to work with you.


Now, I'm happy that you have what you consider is a working solution.
I don't know what you see when you press F12, and I don't understand
what the "L or M" business is in times past.

I can't find any description of what your actual problem is, with
some symptoms, other than that the computer doesn't do what you want
it to do, in some way that's unspecified.

I don't think that the maintainers of grub or the Debian installer
will be interested in this, beyond asking you to read the Debian
installation guide and the grub documentation (a long web page).
You need to report more specifically where what you read diverges
from what happens with your computer, including objective descriptions
of the problem rather than vague complaints.

People here will try to help you, but they can't divine what's
happening on your machine in the absence of facts. If there's really
a bug, then you may get help on how to either fix it, or report it
in such a way that the busy maintainers can isolate and act upon it.

Re your last post quoted above, what's the problem with running jessie
and reporting the information you were asked for? I assume that you
installed jessie so that you could run it occasionally.
I know some people on this list treat it like the telephone ("I'm
going to bed now, and will try it in the morning" kind of thing) but
the list will wait for the next occasion that you boot up your jessie.
In fact, it often pays *not* to give quick responses because it gives
you time to think on the problem, and you *are* the best-placed
person to come up with a solution (as you have done, in a way).

Cheers,
David.

Re: Gnome 3.21: how to define compose key?

[davidson]

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:


I want to use my right super key (right win) as my compose key to be
able to type accented letters.


I don't use gnome, but I expect

 $ setxkbmap -option "compose:rwin"

would do what you want.

And if I wanted that behavior all the time, I would edit the file
/etc/default/keyboard, adding compose:rwin to the comma-separated list
of pairs in XKBOPTIONS.

So, for example, if I found this there, originally,

XKBOPTIONS="lv3:caps_switch,compose:ralt,grp:menu_toggle"

I would replace it like so:

#XKBOPTIONS="lv3:caps_switch,compose:ralt,grp:menu_toggle"
XKBOPTIONS="lv3:caps_switch,compose:rwin,grp:menu_toggle"

I would expect it to work. Maybe it will.

Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

[David Wright]

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 15:28:03 (-0500), Mark Allums wrote:
> >I was amazed a couple days ago, I switched my default browser to
> >chromium, more for S than any other reason, as its now quite long in
> >the tooth.  I had to go thru an email driven procedure to verify the pw
> >at PP, but then it worked.  And its kept on working...
> >
> >And I've been using it for my daily dose of fake news from the mainsleaze
> >news sites, and except for cbsnews.com, nearly every video plays AND
> >stays in lip synch.
> >
> >I can now buy something online, and it works again. I think I'll leave it
> >that way for a while. :-)
> >
> >Firefox is still busted.
> 
> Agreed.

And yet there are few complaints here. Up to the time of writing, I've
had no problem reaching the sites you mentioned, and no security warnings
(except that I intentionally browse with an old flashplayer configured
so that it doesn't start playing them but asks for confirmation instead).

> I believed our problems were related, and I still do.  I
> have run into other problems since I installed libnss3 from sid,
> problems that I haven't had time to relate here on debian-user up to
> now.  For instance, I couldn't verify my email with a certain site
> using Firefox, the site simply said email not verified. (You know,
> how they send you an email, and you click on a link.)  I copied the
> link address to Google Chrome, and it worked, first try.  There are
> a number of examples like this that I won't bother to enumerate,
> because they are incidental.  The problems surfaced with an update
> to firefox, that's why I blame Firefox.

I thought you just wrote "I have run into other problems since I
installed libnss3 from sid" above and "I blame a crypto update
for this" earlier. I couldn't follow your posts because I read a
lot of statements of blame before I saw any evidence of what your
problems were.

> I think now that Gene's
> problems won't all be cured by installing a recent libnss3.  Some
> people blame the age of Gene's system,

Gene and I both run "wheezy" (though I run jessie too). He has many
problems, often reported here, and some of the fixes he uses are
very un-Debian to say the least. (I wrote "wheezy" because Gene's
system is really only *based on* wheezy.)

> but I am running stretch, and
> I have run into the same problems (plural). You can blame my
> problems on my running Testing, but it's funny that both of us on
> two completely different systmes starting having trouble with the
> same update to Firefox/Iceweasel.

I've still only seen your assertions that they're the same
problems?/symptoms?/messages? (Not even sure which of these applies.)

Hoping things sort themselves out (often happens on testing)...

Cheers,
David.

Re: atualizacao

[Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro]

2016-09-11 18:30 GMT-03:00 Rodrigo Cunha :
> Cara, faça isso apenas se for um teste, versões instaveis não são
> completamente testadas.

A /testing/ funciona muito bem como computador pessoal.  Não se
recomenda para uso em produção como servidor.


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Re: Fwd: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

[Dutch Ingraham]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 06:49:47PM -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
> Deconstruction of this statement follows:
> Brian, you are in a bad temper.  Did you read the amended title of 
> this
> and previous messages? "Problem solved".
>  
> Suggestion: simply don't reply to any of my (perhaps) forthcoming 
> questions
> and/or comments.  That will save both you and me time and spare us 
> both
> annoyance.

Given your responses to someone who was, in any event, trying to help, cross me
off your list as well.  *PLONK*

Re: How to arrange for booting to console

[The Wanderer]

On 2016-09-11 at 18:52, Harry Putnam wrote:

> The Wanderer  writes:
> 
>> On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> 
>>> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With
>>> the ability to startx when I feel like it.

>> The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera;
>> those are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login
>> prompt. With none of them present, what you get is the traditional
>> text-mode login prompt, and your configured shell after login.
> 
> That sounds promissing.  Used one of the methods below and quickly
> realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with
> a much higher resolution than the standard. (Previously my OS of
> choice was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup as I
> recall it is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line
> grub.conf
> 
> Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to
> allow a console frame buffer.

AFAIK, the GRUB2 menu is defined from /boot/grub/grub.cfg; the headers
of that file say that it's generated from templates in /etc/grub.d/ and
settings in /etc/default/grub.

Based on a quick look in those locations, you probably want to adjust
one of the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX* settings in the latter file. I haven't
done much tweaking in that area myself, however (I only migrated to
GRUB2 within the last year, give or take), so I can't confirm that with
any certainty.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Mon, 12 Sep 2016 00:20:41 +0200
Bernard Schoenacker  a écrit:


> > > > Bon en fait c'est un problème de résolution de nom ! 
> > > > Je ne sais pas pourquoi apt ne fait plus la résolution du nom de
> > > > mon serveur. En remplaçant par l'ip dans sources.list ça
> > > > fonctionne de nouveau ...
> > > > 
> > > > Gaëtan
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > bonjour,
> > > 
> > > qu'est ce que tu as mis dans ton fichier hosts ?
> > > 
> > > slt
> > > bernard  
> > 
> > Rien de spécial. La conf par défaut lors de l'installation.
> > 
> > Gaëtan
> > 
> 
> bonjour,
> 
> pourrais tu inscrire l'ip et le nom du serveur ftp (exemple) :
> 
> 192.168.0.11  hexentisch.happy-tux.org hexentisch
> 
> slt
> bernard

J'essaierai (il se fait tard) mais la résolution s'effectue bien pour toutes
les autres applications ...

Gaëtan

Re: How to arrange for booting to console

[Harry Putnam]

The Wanderer  writes:

> On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
>> ability to startx when I feel like it.
>> 

[...]

> The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; those
> are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login prompt. With
> none of them present, what you get is the traditional text-mode login
> prompt, and your configured shell after login.
>

[...]

That sounds promissing.  Used one of the methods below and quickly
realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
much higher resolution than the standard. (Previously my OS of choice
was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup as I recall it
is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf

Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
a console frame buffer.

Michael Biebl  wrote:

> Assuming you use jessie (and systemd),
>
> systemctl set-default multi-user.target
>
> should do the trick. You can get the current default with
>
> systemctl get-default
>
> It's typically graphical.target.

Thanks, I actually used  your suggestion of
   systemctl set-default multi-user.target

Worked just as suggested.  I have the job running that was running out
of memory.. so I'll see if leaving X out of things is enough to allow
it to complete.  See above for some sniveling about the default
console.

david...@freevolt.org writes:

> If using systemd, these look relevant:
>
>> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.
>
>  
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/#changingthedefaultboottarget
>
>  # ln -sf /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target 
> /etc/systemd/system/default.target
>
>> With the ability to startx when I feel like it.
>
>  https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>
>  # systemctl isolate graphical.target

Thanks, your suggestion is a little more complete version of Davidson
above again thanks.

Fwd: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

[Alan McConnell]

I tried to send this only to Brian, but he has set his system to
not accept messages to him.  So I have to send this to the whole
List.  Sorry.

- Forwarded Message -
From: "Alan McConnell" 
To: "Brian" 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:38:06 PM
Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

This only to you, Brian.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian" 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:51:50 PM
Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 15:17:00 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:

> On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
> 
> > Addendum:  during my Jessie install, the install program commented at one 
> > point:
> > "There doesn't seem to be any other OS on your system".  Jeez!!  I hope some
> > maintainer reads this complaint and Debian  works hard to make sure that the
> 
> What is the exact name and version of this OS which is not found?
>  Windows 10.  If there is a more exact name, I don't know it.

Deconstruction of this statement follows:
Brian, you are in a bad temper.  Did you read the amended title of this
and previous messages? "Problem solved".
 
Suggestion: simply don't reply to any of my (perhaps) forthcoming 
questions
and/or comments.  That will save both you and me time and spare us both
annoyance.

Best wishes,

Alan McConnell

Consulta sobre port forward con shorewall

[OddieX]

Estimados, estoy teniendo un tema con shorewall y ya me he quemado la cabeza...

Necesito hacer un forward de un puerto a otro ip...

Es algo sencillo pero no esta funcionando y ya me he vuelto loco...

Necesito que, cuando se haga una consulta al puerto de LDAP "389"
desde cualquier IP hacia "192.168.0.249", este lo forwardee a
"192.168.0.50"

Cree la regla del shorewall:
DNATloc loc:192.168.0.50:389tcp
 389 -   192.168.0.249

Cuando tiro iptables -t nat -L me tira:

target prot opt source   destination
DNAT   tcp  --  anywhere 192.168.0.249tcp
dpt:ldap to:192.168.0.50:389


Ahora bien, no funciona... Intente hacerlo con la variable $FW y me pone

target prot opt source   destination
DNAT   tcp  --  anywhere 192.168.0.249tcp
dpt:ldap to:0.0.1.133

He intentado hacerlo de diversas formas y nada funciona! Es muy raro...

#REDIRECT   $FW:389 loc:192.168.0.50:389
#DNAT   all $FW:389 tcp
 389 -   192.168.0.50
#DNAT   $FW loc:192.168.0.50tcp 389
#ACCEPT all $FW tcp 389
#DNATdmzloc:192.168.0.50tcp 389
#DNATloc loc:192.168.0.50:389tcp
  389 -   192.168.0.249
#DNATlan loc:192.168.0.50tcp 389
#DNAT   $FW loc:192.168.0.50tcp 389

Ya no se que mas probar... Alguien me podria sacar la duda, de si esta
mal el forward o el shorewall tiene algo raro?

Re: Debian Stretch/Sid : bug dans gnome-control-center

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:51:19 +0200
Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:

> Le Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:02:19 +0200
> Jean-Marc  a écrit:
> 
> > Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:24:27 +0200
> > Gaëtan PERRIER  écrivait :
> > 
> > > ça ne semble pas être aussi simple que ça. L'installation de libmutter0i
> > > impose la mise à jour de pas mal d'autres paquets qui eux même en impose
> > > d'autres ...
> > 
> > Sur mon système, voilà ce que cela a entraîner comme mises à jour :
> > libmutter0i:amd64 (3.21.91-2, automatic),
> > gnome-shell-extension-weather:amd64 (0~20160325.gitb5415ec-1,
> > 0~20160325.gitb5415ec-2), gir1.2-mutter-3.0:amd64 (3.20.3-2, 3.21.91-2),
> > mutter-common:amd64 (3.20.3-2, 3.21.91-2), gnome-shell-common:amd64
> > (3.20.3-1, 3.21.91-2), gnome-shell-extensions:amd64 (3.20.1-1, 3.21.91-1),
> > gnome-shell:amd64 (3.20.3-1+b1, 3.21.91-2), mutter:amd64 (3.20.3-2,
> > 3.21.91-2)
> > 
> > Rien de bien extraordinaire.
> > 
> > Tu as plus de détails ?
> > 
> > > 
> > > A+
> > > 
> > > Gaëtan
> > 
> > 
> > Jean-Marc 
> 
> Effectivement j'ai réussi à mettre à jour avec pas trop de paquets de
> unstable: gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0_3.21.90-3_amd64.deb
> gir1.2-mutter-3.0_3.21.91-2_amd64.deb
> gnome-desktop3-data_3.21.90-3_all.deb
> gnome-shell_3.21.91-2_amd64.deb
> gnome-shell-common_3.21.91-2_all.deb
> gnome-shell-extensions_3.21.91-1_all.deb
> libgnome-desktop-3-12_3.21.90-3_amd64.deb
> libgnome-desktop-3-dev_3.21.90-3_amd64.deb
> libmutter0i_3.21.91-2_amd64.deb
> libmutter-dev_3.21.91-2_amd64.deb
> mutter_3.21.91-2_amd64.deb
> mutter-common_3.21.91-2_all.deb
> 

J'ai fait la mise à jour sur 2 machines et sur une des 2 je n'ai plus
l'affichage des icones sur le bureau ...

J'ai regardé dans gnome-tweak-tool et c'est bien activé ...

Chose étrange mais sûrement liée, sur la machine où je n'ai plus les icones
sur le bureau, maintenant quand j'ouvre la session ça m'ouvre une fenêtre
nautilus automatiquement.

Gaëtan

Re: apt et ftp local

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Mon, 12 Sep 2016 00:16:37 +0200,
Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit :

> Le Mon, 12 Sep 2016 00:12:22 +0200
> Bernard Schoenacker  a écrit:
> 
> > Le Mon, 12 Sep 2016 00:07:26 +0200,
> > Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit :
> >   
> > > Le Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:47:12 +0200
> > > Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:
> > >   
> > > > Le truc c'est qu'il semble vouloir un fichier Packages alors que
> > > > moi j'ai des Packages.gz ...
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Bon en fait c'est un problème de résolution de nom ! 
> > > Je ne sais pas pourquoi apt ne fait plus la résolution du nom de
> > > mon serveur. En remplaçant par l'ip dans sources.list ça
> > > fonctionne de nouveau ...
> > > 
> > > Gaëtan
> > >   
> > 
> > bonjour,
> > 
> > qu'est ce que tu as mis dans ton fichier hosts ?
> > 
> > slt
> > bernard  
> 
> Rien de spécial. La conf par défaut lors de l'installation.
> 
> Gaëtan
> 

bonjour,

pourrais tu inscrire l'ip et le nom du serveur ftp (exemple) :

192.168.0.11  hexentisch.happy-tux.org hexentisch

slt
bernard

Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Mon, 12 Sep 2016 00:12:22 +0200
Bernard Schoenacker  a écrit:

> Le Mon, 12 Sep 2016 00:07:26 +0200,
> Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit :
> 
> > Le Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:47:12 +0200
> > Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:
> > 
> > > Le truc c'est qu'il semble vouloir un fichier Packages alors que
> > > moi j'ai des Packages.gz ...
> > >   
> > 
> > Bon en fait c'est un problème de résolution de nom ! 
> > Je ne sais pas pourquoi apt ne fait plus la résolution du nom de mon
> > serveur. En remplaçant par l'ip dans sources.list ça fonctionne de
> > nouveau ...
> > 
> > Gaëtan
> > 
> 
> bonjour,
> 
> qu'est ce que tu as mis dans ton fichier hosts ?
> 
> slt
> bernard

Rien de spécial. La conf par défaut lors de l'installation.

Gaëtan

Re: apt et ftp local

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Mon, 12 Sep 2016 00:07:26 +0200,
Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit :

> Le Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:47:12 +0200
> Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:
> 
> > Le truc c'est qu'il semble vouloir un fichier Packages alors que
> > moi j'ai des Packages.gz ...
> >   
> 
> Bon en fait c'est un problème de résolution de nom ! 
> Je ne sais pas pourquoi apt ne fait plus la résolution du nom de mon
> serveur. En remplaçant par l'ip dans sources.list ça fonctionne de
> nouveau ...
> 
> Gaëtan
> 

bonjour,

qu'est ce que tu as mis dans ton fichier hosts ?

slt
bernard

Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:47:12 +0200
Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:

> Le truc c'est qu'il semble vouloir un fichier Packages alors que moi j'ai des
> Packages.gz ...
> 

Bon en fait c'est un problème de résolution de nom ! 
Je ne sais pas pourquoi apt ne fait plus la résolution du nom de mon serveur.
En remplaçant par l'ip dans sources.list ça fonctionne de nouveau ...

Gaëtan

Re: How to arrange for booting to console

[davidson]

If using systemd, these look relevant:


How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.


 
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/#changingthedefaultboottarget

 # ln -sf /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target 
/etc/systemd/system/default.target


With the ability to startx when I feel like it.


 https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/FrequentlyAskedQuestions

 # systemctl isolate graphical.target

Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le truc c'est qu'il semble vouloir un fichier Packages alors que moi j'ai des
Packages.gz ...

Gaëtan

Re: How to arrange for booting to console

[Michael Biebl]

Am 11.09.2016 um 23:04 schrieb Harry Putnam:
> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
> ability to startx when I feel like it.
> 
> I'm not familiar with grub2 and the debian vm I'm using on a solaris
> host appears to be using grub2.
> 
> Can anyone stear me to the files I'd need to edit?
> 

Assuming you use jessie (and systemd),

systemctl set-default multi-user.target

should do the trick. You can get the current default with

systemctl get-default

It's typically graphical.target.


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universe are pointed away from Earth?



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Re: How to arrange for booting to console

[The Wanderer]

On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:

> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
> ability to startx when I feel like it.
> 
> I'm not familiar with grub2 and the debian vm I'm using on a solaris
> host appears to be using grub2.
> 
> Can anyone stear me to the files I'd need to edit?

Unless you actually want to be able to get to the graphical login
prompt, I don't believe you need to mess with GRUB, the bootloader, or
the initrd at all.

The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; those
are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login prompt. With
none of them present, what you get is the traditional text-mode login
prompt, and your configured shell after login.

From there, assuming other permissions are configured correctly (which I
seem to recall may take some tweaking, under the systemd paradigm),
'startx' should work normally. It may or may not pick up your desired
window manager; I believe the Debian Way to specify that is to select
one as the preferred alternative for the 'x-window-manager' link group.

If you do want to keep one or more of those packages present, or if you
want to do this more explicitly / manually, you'll probably need to look
at those packages and figure out what it is they do to hook themselves
in as the login prompt. I haven't investigated exactly what they change
in order to do that, so I can't directly help you there.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: atualizacao

[Rodrigo Cunha]

Cara, faça isso apenas se for um teste, versões instaveis não são
completamente testadas.
Se for o caso, faça altere os repositorios da sua distro atual para a
distro que vc quer, feito isso apt-get dist-upgrade

Em 10 de setembro de 2016 08:53, Fred Maranhão 
escreveu:

> 2016-09-10 1:07 GMT-03:00 Célio Roberto :
> > Fala galera, muito obrigado pelas dicas, todas foram avaliadas e foram de
> > grande importancia.
> > Como fazia: a bastante tempo tenho um pendrive com Debian, utilizo
> > basicamente para acesso a web e multimedia(audio), ele fica ligado
> direto,
>
> ele fica ligado direto? então por que não instalar o debian no disco?
>
>


-- 
Atenciosamente,
Rodrigo da Silva Cunha

How to arrange for booting to console

[Harry Putnam]

How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
ability to startx when I feel like it.

I'm not familiar with grub2 and the debian vm I'm using on a solaris
host appears to be using grub2.

Can anyone stear me to the files I'd need to edit?

Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

[Mark Allums]

I was amazed a couple days ago, I switched my default browser to
chromium, more for S than any other reason, as its now quite long in
the tooth.  I had to go thru an email driven procedure to verify the pw
at PP, but then it worked.  And its kept on working...

And I've been using it for my daily dose of fake news from the mainsleaze
news sites, and except for cbsnews.com, nearly every video plays AND
stays in lip synch.

I can now buy something online, and it works again. I think I'll leave it
that way for a while. :-)

Firefox is still busted.

Cheers, Gene Heskett



Agreed.  I believed our problems were related, and I still do.  I have 
run into other problems since I installed libnss3 from sid, problems 
that I haven't had time to relate here on debian-user up to now.  For 
instance, I couldn't verify my email with a certain site using Firefox, 
the site simply said email not verified. (You know, how they send you an 
email, and you click on a link.)  I copied the link address to Google 
Chrome, and it worked, first try.  There are a number of examples like 
this that I won't bother to enumerate, because they are incidental.  The 
problems surfaced with an update to firefox, that's why I blame Firefox. 
 I think now that Gene's problems won't all be cured by installing a 
recent libnss3.  Some people blame the age of Gene's system, but I am 
running stretch, and I have run into the same problems (plural). You can 
blame my problems on my running Testing, but it's funny that both of us 
on two completely different systmes starting having trouble with the 
same update to Firefox/Iceweasel.


MArk Allums

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

[Brian]

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 15:17:00 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:

> On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
> 
> > Addendum:  during my Jessie install, the install program commented at one 
> > point:
> > "There doesn't seem to be any other OS on your system".  Jeez!!  I hope some
> > maintainer reads this complaint and Debian  works hard to make sure that the
> 
> What is the exact name and version of this OS which is not found?
>  Windows 10.  If there is a more exact name, I don't know it.

Deconstruction of this statement follows:

 I do not know. I am unable to extract information from any OS. But I am
 really good at moaning about them. You will get no help from me, don't
 bother me.

> > operation of installing a second OS(Linux) on a Windoze box is as easy and
> > error-proof as it is possible to make it.
> 
> 1. As a user do
> 
>  dpkg -l | grep grub
> 
>Please post the output of this command.
> 
> 2. Suppose there are four packages listed. As root do
> 
>  apt-get --reinstall install 
> 
>for each package
> 
> is in the second column of the 'dpkg -l' output.
> 
>So, for example
> 
>  apt-get --reinstall install grub-common
>  apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc
>  apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc-bin
>  apt-get --reinstall install grub2-common
> 
>is what I would do on my machine. For the grub-pc reinstall please post
>the lines which begin "Found ." in the output.
> 
> 3. As root run the command
> 
>  os-prober
> 
>and post its output.
> 
>  Why?  why all this?  What good will it do? to anyone?  To do this 
> I'd have
>  to get out of this URL(mail.his.com), shut down my Windoze, reboot 
> to Jessie,
>  copy the output you are requesting to a piece of paper, and then get 
> back here.(*)

Deconstruction of this statement follows:

  You are asking questions. Questions are awkward - you have to give
  answers; I do not want to participate in giving answers. Just take
  some notice of me and give me what I want without all this palaver.

>  May I ask: are you the Debian installation maintainer?  if you are, 
> I'd be
>  happy to work with you.

Having chosen to post to debian-user you cannot even work with the
process here. What chance would there be of a working relationship if
you thought you were talking to the Debian Leader.

> (*)  Many years ago, when I ran a dual boot machine of Linux and MS-DOS, I 
> used to be
> able to mount the MS-DOS partition from my Linux system, and copy file to and 
> from it.
> I'm going to try that, when next I (re)boot into Jessie.

Deconstruction of this statement follows:

  Redirection. I've managed to avoid answering anything but I can still
  go down fighting and introduce something irrelevant. Do I have to stew
  in my own juice?

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

[Alan McConnell]

- Original Message -
From: "Brian" 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:32:54 PM
Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:

> Addendum:  during my Jessie install, the install program commented at one 
> point:
> "There doesn't seem to be any other OS on your system".  Jeez!!  I hope some
> maintainer reads this complaint and Debian  works hard to make sure that the

What is the exact name and version of this OS which is not found?
 Windows 10.  If there is a more exact name, I don't know it.

> operation of installing a second OS(Linux) on a Windoze box is as easy and
> error-proof as it is possible to make it.

1. As a user do

 dpkg -l | grep grub

   Please post the output of this command.

2. Suppose there are four packages listed. As root do

 apt-get --reinstall install 

   for each package

is in the second column of the 'dpkg -l' output.

   So, for example

 apt-get --reinstall install grub-common
 apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc
 apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc-bin
 apt-get --reinstall install grub2-common

   is what I would do on my machine. For the grub-pc reinstall please post
   the lines which begin "Found ." in the output.

3. As root run the command

 os-prober

   and post its output.

 Why?  why all this?  What good will it do? to anyone?  To do this I'd 
have
 to get out of this URL(mail.his.com), shut down my Windoze, reboot to 
Jessie,
 copy the output you are requesting to a piece of paper, and then get 
back here.(*)

 May I ask: are you the Debian installation maintainer?  if you are, 
I'd be
 happy to work with you.

(*)  Many years ago, when I ran a dual boot machine of Linux and MS-DOS, I used 
to be
able to mount the MS-DOS partition from my Linux system, and copy file to and 
from it.
I'm going to try that, when next I (re)boot into Jessie.

Best wishes,

Alan

Re: mount problems Please Help! Can't sshfs mount remote debian server, mount local 2nd hdd, nothing...

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Sonntag, 11. September 2016 11:43:17 PYT Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/11/2016 08:59 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > On Sonntag, 11. September 2016 08:12:24 PYT Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> >> On 09/11/2016 06:37 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> >>> On 09/10/2016 07:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>  On 09/10/2016 03:34 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> > On 09/10/2016 03:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >> On 09/10/2016 03:07 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> >>> Le quintidi 25 fructidor, an CCXXIV, Anthony Baldwin a écrit :
>  I apologize, but, I've never quite figured out what to do with
>  dmesg,
>  or what to look for in its output, etc..
>  it really just confuses me...
>  I saw this: 15.690807] EXT3-fs (sda1): warning: checktime reached,
>  running
>  e2fsck is recommended
>  [   15.722318] EXT3-fs (sda1): using internal journal
> >>> 
> >>> Looking for places that talk about the device causing problems would
> >>> be a
> >>> good start. Your problems are on /dev/sdb, so why do you bother with
> >>> lines
> >>> about /dev/sda?
> >>> 
>  and tried to e2fsk /dev/sdb2
> >>> 
> >>> And yet again you did not read part of my previous mail, the one
> >>> about
> >>> using
> >>> Linux's fsck on microsoft's filesystems.
> > 
> > I have no knowlege of what a windows equivalent to fsck would be.
> > I hardly use that system.
> > I only even installed it, because for a brief while I was doing some
> > work for the State (I work freelance from home) that required windows
> > only software (my contacts with the state didn't even know what
> > gnu/linux is), and it had to be run on bare metal, not in a virtual
> > environment.
> > Thankfully, I am no longer doing that work.
> > That system is so slow, stupid and crippled that it's maddening!
>  
>  I let windows do it's auto-repair thingy, and when I booted back to
>  Debian, things looked like maybe they were back to normal. I was able
>  to
>  do:
>  $ ls -li
>  total 12
>  1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
>  1357617 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 win7
>  1357619 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 winhome
>  
>  Then I tried do mount them again, and got the I/O error,
>  and they're back to doing this:
>  $ ls -li
>  ls: cannot access winhome: Input/output error
>  ls: cannot access win7: Input/output error
>  total 4
>  1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
>  
>    ? d? ? ??   ?? win7
>    ? d? ? ??   ?? winhome
>  
>  I don't get it...
> >>> 
> >>> This can't have anything to do with "the microsoft version of fsck",
> >>> because the windows disk (which is actually split into two partitions,
> >>> one with the win7 system, and one that's just storage) is running fine
> >>> when I boot it (for a crippled OS, anyway), and mounting the storage
> >>> partition fine, too.
> >>> PLus, I'm having trouble sshfs mounting a remote server running Debian,
> >>> which worked fine days ago, now when I try it I get the same I/O errors,
> >>> and wierd inode issues I'm getting with this local hdd.
> >> 
> >> To confirm.
> >> I booted back to windows and did a chkdsk (I'm assuming this is the
> >> nearest thing to a Windows approximation of fsck) for both C:// (the
> >> win7 system and /dev/sdb2) and D:// (storage, /dev/sdb3), and still
> >> cannot mount either partition on this drive when I come back to my
> >> Debian system.
> >> The disk itself is fine, the problem is with the debian system somewhere.
> >> Oh, and I have been able to sshfs mount my remote server again, btw
> >> 
> >> ]$ dmesg | grep sdb
> >> [3.098300] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 2930277168 512-byte logical blocks:
> >> (1.50 TB/1.36 TiB)
> >> [3.098341] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> >> [3.098343] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> >> [3.098360] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
> >> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
> >> [3.132979]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
> >> [3.133999] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
> >> 
>  ./Tony
> > 
> > sorry should have read:
> > df -h *and* df -hi
> 
> neither seems to indicate any problem:
> ]$ df -h
> Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda128G   16G   11G  61% /
> udev 10M 0   10M   0% /dev
> tmpfs   3.2G  9.4M  3.2G   1% /run
> tmpfs   7.9G   23M  7.9G   1% /dev/shm
> tmpfs   5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
> tmpfs   7.9G 0  7.9G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
> /dev/sda6   1.3T  589G  663G  48% /home
> tmpfs   1.6G  8.0K  1.6G   1% /run/user/1000
> [504][tony.deathstar: /home/tony]$ df -hi
> Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
> /dev/sda11.8M  514K  1.3M   29% 

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

[Brian]

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:

> Addendum:  during my Jessie install, the install program commented at one 
> point:
> "There doesn't seem to be any other OS on your system".  Jeez!!  I hope some
> maintainer reads this complaint and Debian  works hard to make sure that the

What is the exact name and version of this OS which is not found?

> operation of installing a second OS(Linux) on a Windoze box is as easy and
> error-proof as it is possible to make it.

1. As a user do

 dpkg -l | grep grub

   Please post the output of this command.

2. Suppose there are four packages listed. As root do

 apt-get --reinstall install 

   for each package

is in the second column of the 'dpkg -l' output.

   So, for example

 apt-get --reinstall install grub-common
 apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc
 apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc-bin
 apt-get --reinstall install grub2-common

   is what I would do on my machine. For the grub-pc reinstall please post
   the lines which begin "Found ." in the output.

3. As root run the command

 os-prober

   and post its output.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Installing a MINIMAL Mate Desktop How?

[Brian]

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 10:04:06 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> While waiting for response(s) to my my post I installed marco, xorg, xterm,
> mate-terminal, mate-panel, mate-session-manager and lightdm.
> 
> I now have a workable, if ugly *MINIMAL* install.  ;)
> Now to find some decorative elements and chose the applications I want.

The meaning of "minimal" is very difficult to define as it very much
depends on the purpose of the install, what functionality is required,
how it is to be used now and in the future and who it is to be used by.

If I were doing what you are doing I wouldn't install xorg because it
would take some 213 MB of space on this machine without the recommended
packages. Instead (without recommended packages) I'd have xserver-org,
xserver-org-input-evdev and xserver-xorg-video-nouveau for 15 MB of disk
space. I doubt much (if anything) is lost by taking that route to X.

Adding xterm to my basic X install is 3 MB of space extra. mate-terminal
is 105 MB, so it is no contest if space taken is a major criterion. You
could see less ugliness in mate-terminal so there is little point in
arguing about what is minimal.

lightdm looks nice and only adds an extra 2 MB. nodm adds hardly
anything. Is a fancy DM necessary?

I'd use mc instead of marco but wouldn't give it to a user who expects
clickety-click things and automounting.

Do you see what I am getting at? It could be said that minimal (like
beauty) is in the eye of the beholder.

-- 
Brian.

Re: [OT Consejo sobre portátil]

[Angel Vicente]

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Camaleón  escribió:
> El Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:16:39 +0200, Angel Vicente escribió:
> 
> (...)
> 
> > 14'' igual es un poco grande todavía, es para llevarlo dentro de una
> > mochila.  
> 
> Para llevar en una mochila mejor una tableta pero con una pantalla
> tan pequeña le van a doler los ojos y se le va a hacer muy molesto
> trabajar salvo que sólo quiera jugar al Candy Crush.

Es para la carrera de Biología, no Políticas... XD

Parece que hay alumnos que llevan tabletas, pero la verdad es que me
repelen un poco, y a mi hija también.

> 
> Saludos,
> 



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Systemd problem regarding resource control

[mo]

Hi Debian users :)

Well i'm back again with another problem i absolutely can't figure out. 
First of some information regarding my system and systemd:


mo@srv:~$ systemd --version
systemd 215
+PAM +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +SYSVINIT +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +ACL +XZ 
-SECCOMP -APPARMOR


mo@srv:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.5 (jessie)
Release:8.5
Codename:   jessie

The problem is the following:
According to the systemd.resource-control man page it is possible to 
manage the resources of slices, scopes, sockets and mount points. 
However, always when i try to set a property on one of my virtual 
machine slices the changes have no effect at all.. no matter what i try.


The commands will be listed in order:

$ sudo systemctl set-property --runtime machine-qemu"\x2d"ts.scope 
CPUQuota=10%


No reply or error returned, so we should be good, then i type:

$ systemctl show machine-qemu\x2dts.scope | grep CPU
CPUAccounting=yes
CPUShares=18446744073709551615
StartupCPUShares=18446744073709551615
CPUQuotaPerSecUSec=(null)

As you can see CPUQutoa is _not_ listed here... which is quite strange 
to me. (Since systemctl did not return any error of any kind)


The vm runs under the user "libvirt-qemu" and is started by hand via virsh.

I honestly can't tell what seems to be wrong.
It would be great if any of you guys has a idea what the reason could be.

Thanks in advance :)

Greets

mo

[Résolu] Re: Les scripts /etc/network/if-up.d bégaient

[Alain Rpnpif]

Une erreur de ma part :
J'exécutais mon script pour chaque interface plus une.
Pour lo (locale) de /etc/network/interfaces,
pour eth0,
et enfin pour... lo implicite issue de systemd ou des scripts par
défaut de Debian.

Bon à savoir :
Ne pas déclarer lo dans /etc/network/interfaces car il l'est déjà par
défaut.

Désolé pour cette fausse alerte.

-- 
Alain Rpnpif

Le 10 septembre 2016, Alain Rpnpif a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> Les scripts dans /etc/network/if-up.d/ sont destinés à être exécutés à
> l'ouverture de connexion d'une interface réseau comme eth0. Par
> exemple : ntpdate, eopenssh-server, etc.
> 
> J'y ai mis un script perso.
> 
> Je remarque que ces scripts sont exécutés trois fois (!) au démarrage
> de l'ordinateur. Par contre, service networking stop puis start, ou bien
> systemctl stop (puis start) ifup ne les exécute qu'une seule fois comme
> il se doit.
> 
> Je n'utilise pas network-manager mais le paquet
> ifupdown. /etc/network/interfaces configure eth0 avec une adresse
> statique.
> 
> Les paquets sont issus de Jessie mis à jour par jessie-backports.
> 
> J'ai remarqué aussi que systemd prend en main beaucoup (trop) de choses
> et semble faire le boulot inutilement en double de ntpdate (entre
> autres choses) !
> 
> Serait-il le coupable de ce bégaiement de script qui entraîne un
> encombrement des logs dans syslog et d'autres effets de bords ?
> 
> Qu'en pensez-vous ?
> 

Re: Installing a MINIMAL Mate Desktop How?

[Richard Owlett]

On 9/11/2016 11:46 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2016-09-11, Richard Owlett  wrote:


"apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core" does not install
marco, xorg, xterm, nor lightdm. My brute force diagnostic
procedure was to install each of them in the order listed with a
reboot in between to see if everything worked. It did not. After
installing each of the 1st three I was left at the command line.
After installing lightdm I was presented with a blank screen.


Well installing xorg without a display manager (lightdm in your case)
would take you to the console, from where you'd have to issue a "startx"
to get into the graphical environment I do believe. Rebooting each time
seems like a waste of time, unless you can explain what magical spell
that is supposed to cast upon the whole affair.


Only as a reproducible test to see if I had installed all the 
right pieces ;)




After installing lightdm you get a blank screen, so you're making
progress (perhaps a graphic card/driver issue lurking in there
somewhere).


I was reporting sucess as you were writing.
Futher experiments await purchasing DVD's of the upcoming point 
release.





As I have minimal bandwidth available I am installing from
purchased DVD's - currently version 8.0.0 . After the point
release later this month I will obtain the latest.

Has anyone successfully done such a minimal install as I am
attempting?
TIA

Re: Installing a MINIMAL Mate Desktop How?

[Curt]

On 2016-09-11, Richard Owlett  wrote:
>
> "apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core" does not install 
> marco, xorg, xterm, nor lightdm. My brute force diagnostic 
> procedure was to install each of them in the order listed with a 
> reboot in between to see if everything worked. It did not. After 
> installing each of the 1st three I was left at the command line. 
> After installing lightdm I was presented with a blank screen.

Well installing xorg without a display manager (lightdm in your case)
would take you to the console, from where you'd have to issue a "startx"
to get into the graphical environment I do believe. Rebooting each time
seems like a waste of time, unless you can explain what magical spell
that is supposed to cast upon the whole affair.

After installing lightdm you get a blank screen, so you're making
progress (perhaps a graphic card/driver issue lurking in there
somewhere).

> As I have minimal bandwidth available I am installing from 
> purchased DVD's - currently version 8.0.0 . After the point 
> release later this month I will obtain the latest.
>
> Has anyone successfully done such a minimal install as I am 
> attempting?
> TIA
>
>
>


-- 
“Whatever is rejected from the self, appears in the world as an event.” 
C.G. Jung

Re: Installing a MINIMAL Mate Desktop How?

[Richard Owlett]

On 9/11/2016 10:04 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 9/11/2016 9:14 AM, Brian wrote:

[snip]

"apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core" does not
install marco,
xorg, xterm, nor lightdm. My brute force diagnostic procedure
was to install
each of them in the order listed with a reboot in between to
see if
everything worked. It did not. After installing each of the
1st three I was
left at the command line. After installing lightdm I was
presented with a
blank screen.


mate-desktop-environment-core depends on marco. There is something
seriously wrong if it was not installed.


Huumm I see another test install in my future as it is listed as
such in the packages file for the DVD I installed from.


Something is definitely *FLAKY* at least.
I just did another test install on another partition.
This time I only had to install xorg, xterm, and lightdm after 
installing mate-desktop-environment-core.
This time it even has the same visual appearance as the full Mate 
install on the same machine.


As Debian 8.6 is due soon, I'll wait until then and copy the 
DVD's to a flash drive and do an install from them. In the 
meantime I'll create an appropriate preseed.cfg to aid repeatably 
to my trials.

Re: [OT] Flash Player para linux "strikes back"

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:06:40 +, Camaleón escribió:

> Aviso a navegantes: la beta 23 no la detecta Firefox. Parece que además
> de Fedora (como dice la nota) tampoco funciona en Debian.

Corrijo: la beta 23 funciona en testing (32 bits) pero no funciona en 
wheezy (64 bits). Misterios "bibliotecarios", seguro.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: mount problems Please Help! Can't sshfs mount remote debian server, mount local 2nd hdd, nothing...

[Tony Baldwin]

On 09/11/2016 08:59 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:

On Sonntag, 11. September 2016 08:12:24 PYT Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/11/2016 06:37 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 07:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:34 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:07 PM, Nicolas George wrote:

Le quintidi 25 fructidor, an CCXXIV, Anthony Baldwin a écrit :

I apologize, but, I've never quite figured out what to do with dmesg,
or what to look for in its output, etc..
it really just confuses me...
I saw this: 15.690807] EXT3-fs (sda1): warning: checktime reached,
running
e2fsck is recommended
[   15.722318] EXT3-fs (sda1): using internal journal


Looking for places that talk about the device causing problems would
be a
good start. Your problems are on /dev/sdb, so why do you bother with
lines
about /dev/sda?


and tried to e2fsk /dev/sdb2


And yet again you did not read part of my previous mail, the one about
using
Linux's fsck on microsoft's filesystems.


I have no knowlege of what a windows equivalent to fsck would be.
I hardly use that system.
I only even installed it, because for a brief while I was doing some
work for the State (I work freelance from home) that required windows
only software (my contacts with the state didn't even know what
gnu/linux is), and it had to be run on bare metal, not in a virtual
environment.
Thankfully, I am no longer doing that work.
That system is so slow, stupid and crippled that it's maddening!


I let windows do it's auto-repair thingy, and when I booted back to
Debian, things looked like maybe they were back to normal. I was able to
do:
$ ls -li
total 12
1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
1357617 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 win7
1357619 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 winhome

Then I tried do mount them again, and got the I/O error,
and they're back to doing this:
$ ls -li
ls: cannot access winhome: Input/output error
ls: cannot access win7: Input/output error
total 4
1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown

  ? d? ? ??   ?? win7
  ? d? ? ??   ?? winhome

I don't get it...


This can't have anything to do with "the microsoft version of fsck",
because the windows disk (which is actually split into two partitions,
one with the win7 system, and one that's just storage) is running fine
when I boot it (for a crippled OS, anyway), and mounting the storage
partition fine, too.
PLus, I'm having trouble sshfs mounting a remote server running Debian,
which worked fine days ago, now when I try it I get the same I/O errors,
and wierd inode issues I'm getting with this local hdd.


To confirm.
I booted back to windows and did a chkdsk (I'm assuming this is the
nearest thing to a Windows approximation of fsck) for both C:// (the
win7 system and /dev/sdb2) and D:// (storage, /dev/sdb3), and still
cannot mount either partition on this drive when I come back to my
Debian system.
The disk itself is fine, the problem is with the debian system somewhere.
Oh, and I have been able to sshfs mount my remote server again, btw

]$ dmesg | grep sdb
[3.098300] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 2930277168 512-byte logical blocks:
(1.50 TB/1.36 TiB)
[3.098341] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[3.098343] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[3.098360] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[3.132979]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
[3.133999] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk


./Tony


sorry should have read:
df -h *and* df -hi



neither seems to indicate any problem:
]$ df -h
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda128G   16G   11G  61% /
udev 10M 0   10M   0% /dev
tmpfs   3.2G  9.4M  3.2G   1% /run
tmpfs   7.9G   23M  7.9G   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs   5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
tmpfs   7.9G 0  7.9G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda6   1.3T  589G  663G  48% /home
tmpfs   1.6G  8.0K  1.6G   1% /run/user/1000
[504][tony.deathstar: /home/tony]$ df -hi
Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/sda11.8M  514K  1.3M   29% /
udev 2.0M   453  2.0M1% /dev
tmpfs2.0M   776  2.0M1% /run
tmpfs2.0M33  2.0M1% /dev/shm
tmpfs2.0M 5  2.0M1% /run/lock
tmpfs2.0M11  2.0M1% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda6 84M  1.2M   83M2% /home
tmpfs2.0M15  2.0M1% /run/user/1000
I was able to load a Trisquel mini liveCD up and mount that hdd from 
that system, and recover some of the most important stuff by rsyncing it 
back to the hdd my Jessie is on.
Still, I'd like to understand and amend the problem and be able to mount 
this disk like I used to on the Jessie system.
Since both Windows and Trisquel can mount and access is, the problem 
must be somewhere here in Jessie...
But I 

Re: Using the result of equivs (dummy package for dependencies)

[The Wanderer]

On 2016-09-11 at 11:13, Mark Fletcher wrote:

> So I've used the equivs-control and equivs-build commands from the
> equivs package to create a dummy package which has all the needed
> dependencies. My problem is I can't do anything with the created
> package -- I obviously can't dpkg -i it because dpkg just complains
> about the missing dependencies -- which was the point of creating the
> dummy package in the first place!
> 
> Is there a way I can get aptitude to add this package to its
> knowledge base, and then let me install it as if it came from a
> debian repository?

You almost certainly want one or more of dpkg's '--force' options.

As a first attempt, try 'dpkg -i pkgname.deb --force-depends', or
similar. If that doesn't work, look through that section of the man page
and see what else you may find.

After it's installed, 'apt-get -f install' (or a comparable aptitude
command) should get you the missing dependencies, as intended.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

[Alan McConnell]

- Original Message -
From: "Felix Miata" 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:33:46 PM
Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time

Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-10 17:45 (UTC-0400):

> Good grief.  I just wrote that I am now logged in to a working jessie.
> So I can run any kind of apt-get, aptitude, etc.

> So I repeat:  apt-cache search grub gives me lots of grub files to install.
> Do I want to install a different grub?

> Possibly, though not likely. What does 'dpkg -l | grep grub' show now?
I have grub 2.0.2

What works for me now is the following:  If I do nothing, I boot 
directly
into Jessie.  However, if I wish to boot into Windoze, which is what 
I'll do
a lot for now, since I haven't even got an X11 system running on my 
Jessie,
I press and hold F12, to get into the choose boot method pre-OS screen.
There I choose Windows boot manager(recall that this is a new machine, a
generic Dell, so OF COURSE it had Windows installed.  And after choosing
this, of course what I get is a nice boot into Windoze.

Before leaving this topic, I have a remark:  I have been telling interested and
non-interested people for years that one doesn't have to completely abandon 
one's
long-held Windoze habit, one can install Linux as a second OS and play with both
until Linux has "sold itself".  I shudder to think of someone taking my advice,
following all the instructions, and winding up with a system where only Linux
is available.  Imagine being taken out of one's English-speaking world and 
dumped
into a village in Uzbekistan!

Fortunately I live in a facility where there is a "computer lab" to which I have
access.  And I was able to go there, use their Chrome browser to get to my 
his.com
E-mail facility, whine to you folks, and blunder my way through to a solution.
Other people won't have that good fortune.

Addendum:  during my Jessie install, the install program commented at one point:
"There doesn't seem to be any other OS on your system".  Jeez!!  I hope some
maintainer reads this complaint and Debian  works hard to make sure that the
operation of installing a second OS(Linux) on a Windoze box is as easy and
error-proof as it is possible to make it.

Best wishes, and thanks to all the kind responders who helped me.

Alan McConnell

Using the result of equivs (dummy package for dependencies)

[Mark Fletcher]

Hello the list!

I am trying to install an open-source submarine simulation game called
Danger From The Deep onto Jessie. The game is not packaged for Debian,
although an old version is packaged for Ubuntu, I've just noticed. The
game has recently seen a lot of developer activity after a long pause,
and I want to try out the latest bells and whistles.

So I've cloned the git repository of the source code and am all set to
build the game from source. Some years ago I did this and got the game
to work, but made a bit of a mess of my installed packages in the
process. Specifically, the game needs a bunch of OpenGL, SDL etc
libraries and their -dev equivalents. Many of the libraries themselves
were already installed but the -dev equivalents weren't. Last time, I
installed them using aptitude install, which was fine until it came time
to upgrade, either from wheezy to jessie or from squeeze to wheezy, I
forget which... Anyway, that upgrade replaced many of the libraries not
with newer versions, but with new library packages altogether which
conflicted with the old ones. Because the dev libraries were explicitly
installed, and not automatically installed, aptitude couldn't see that
it could actually remove them, and so it was desperately trying to come
up with a solution and ended up wanting to completely remove Gnome (not
a terrible idea, some might argue :) ). I got out of the mess by using
aptitude markauto on the -dev packages and then aptitude was able to
figure out that it could remove them, and hence what to do to resolve
the dependencies.

So, this time, I want to avoid that, and I had the idea to create a
dummy package that has all the dependencies that Danger From The Deep
needs. Then, I can install that package and have aptitude install the
missing dependencies and mark them as auto-installed. Then, if I get
into a future similar upgrade situation, aptitude will be able to see it
can resolve the dependencies by removing the Danger From The Deep
package, not ripping out half my system. Also if I go off Danger From
the Deep I can remove the package and have aptitude remove all the
dependencies that were only there for it -- keep things tidy.

So I've used the equivs-control and equivs-build commands from the
equivs package to create a dummy package which has all the needed
dependencies. My problem is I can't do anything with the created package
-- I obviously can't dpkg -i it because dpkg just complains about the
missing dependencies -- which was the point of creating the dummy
package in the first place!

Is there a way I can get aptitude to add this package to its knowledge
base, and then let me install it as if it came from a debian repository?
(Its sole purpose is to reflect the dependency on the required libraries
so they are installed and marked as auto-installed, and not immediately
removed as long as the dummy package is in place) Do I have to set up a
local repository? If so, any pointers to references on doing that? But,
better, can that be avoided? Is there a simpler way?

A lot of the info on the web says create your package with equivs-build
then install it with dpkg -i -- which I can't do as described above.

(I'm an aptitude man but apt-get based solutions also entirely
acceptable!)

Thanks in advance!

Mark

Re: Installing a MINIMAL Mate Desktop How?

[Richard Owlett]

On 9/11/2016 9:14 AM, Brian wrote:

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 06:47:23 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:


When Squeeze was the latest I was able to install without any desktop.
I would then do
apt-get install gnome-session gdm3 gedit gnome-terminal gparted
The result was a nice uncluttered desktop to which I could add what *I*
needed rather than what the proverbial "everybody" should have ;)


gnome-session pulls in xserver-org-video-all and installs it on the
*same* machine. Graphical programs like gnome-terminal and gedit run on
the *same* machine as the X server runs on and will display an output
there. This is a very common situation but it does not have to be like
that.

An X server runs and produces an output on the machine you are sitting
in front of. Programs like gedit could be on a *different* machine. This
is just as valid a setup as the "common" one. It implies that such
things as, for example, window manager packages do not depend on an X
server being installed.


I think I follow the point you are trying to make.
Just to be clear, everything *I* do is on a standalone machine [a 
laptop].





According to http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download#debian I should be able
to do
apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core

That is not enough, it leaves me with only a command line.


You got what was promised - a minimal mate install. You need an X server
on that machine or another one if you want other than the command line.


Whether or not it qualifies as an "install" or not is a matter of 
definition/perspective. A few years ago I thinking about a 
possible Debian Pure Blend aimed at the bandwidth challenged - at 
the time I was on dialup. Someone suggested  "Desert Island 
Swirl" as a working title. That would fit my perspective on how 
an installer should interact with a user. The user could be 
described as one person, with one computer and one stack of DVD's.





I have the full Mate desktop on one machine. Using Synaptic on that machine
and using apt-get install  on the other I was able too identify some
missing pieces.

"apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core" does not install marco,
xorg, xterm, nor lightdm. My brute force diagnostic procedure was to install
each of them in the order listed with a reboot in between to see if
everything worked. It did not. After installing each of the 1st three I was
left at the command line. After installing lightdm I was presented with a
blank screen.


mate-desktop-environment-core depends on marco. There is something
seriously wrong if it was not installed.


Huumm I see another test install in my future as it is listed as 
such in the packages file for the DVD I installed from.




xorg isn't required to be on the same machine as mate; that is why it
was not installed. mate-terminal does the same job as xterm. The mate
maintainers might have decided not have a DM as a depended on or
recommended package.



While waiting for response(s) to my my post I installed marco, 
xorg, xterm, mate-terminal, mate-panel, mate-session-manager and 
lightdm.


I now have a workable, if ugly *MINIMAL* install.  ;)
Now to find some decorative elements and chose the applications I 
want.

Re: [OT Consejo sobre portátil]

[Camaleón]

El Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:16:39 +0200, Angel Vicente escribió:

(...)

> 14'' igual es un poco grande todavía, es para llevarlo dentro de una
> mochila.

Para llevar en una mochila mejor una tableta pero con una pantalla tan 
pequeña le van a doler los ojos y se le va a hacer muy molesto trabajar 
salvo que sólo quiera jugar al Candy Crush.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: [OT Consejo sobre portátil]

[Camaleón]

El Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:27:50 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

> El 10/09/16 a las 15:43, Camaleón escribió:
> 
>> De las marcas que veo en PC Componentes iría por HP, Toshiba, MSI, Asus
>> (por ese orden).
> 
> Yo en portátiles, a no ser que HP haya mejorado mucho, yo no lo
> recomendaría...

HP es de los mejores "montadores" (ellos no los fabrican) de ordenadores 
(portátiles y sobremesa) que pueda haber a día de hoy. Eligen componentes 
de buena calidad, saben cómo ensamblarlos y tienen una relación calidad-
precio excelente.

> Yo tengo uno de 2011 de 17,3 pulgadas de pantalla... y vale que lleva un
> i7 pero el ventilador es bastante ruidoso, y desde siempre me ha
> parecido muy "tostadora". A su favor solo puedo decir que no me ha
> fallado ningún componente todavía. Ahora mismo estoy escribiendo desde
> él :)

Es que... a ver, hay que saber lo que se compra. Un i7 para un equipo 
enlatado como es un portátil, pues como que no :-)
 
> En 2013 compré un Asus pequeñin de 10 ó 11 pulgadas y también estoy muy
> contento con él. Lo mejor, super silencioso :-)

Asus es fabricante de placas y las ha tenido muy buenas, pero para lo 
demás (portátil, gráficas, móviles...) no lo veo, la verdad. 

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: [OT Consejo sobre portátil]

[Camaleón]

El Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:08:41 -0300, Jorge A. Secreto escribió:


> El día 10 de septiembre de 2016, 10:43, Camaleón 
> escribió:

(...)

>> De las marcas que veo en PC Componentes iría por HP, Toshiba, MSI, Asus
>> (por ese orden).
> 
> Cuidado con Toshiba que cerro la división de informática.
> http://www.elintransigente.com/tecnologia/2016/3/17/todo-concluye-fin-
toshiba-cierra-puertas-373768.html

Sí, lo sé. Aún así, sigue siendo referente en cuanto a hardware, vamos, 
que son pioneros en el mercado de portátiles y eso se nota.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: mount problems Please Help! Can't sshfs mount remote debian server, mount local 2nd hdd, nothing...

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Sonntag, 11. September 2016 09:17:41 PYT Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/11/2016 08:54 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > On Sonntag, 11. September 2016 08:12:24 PYT Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> >> On 09/11/2016 06:37 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> >>> On 09/10/2016 07:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>  On 09/10/2016 03:34 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> > On 09/10/2016 03:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >> On 09/10/2016 03:07 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> >>> Le quintidi 25 fructidor, an CCXXIV, Anthony Baldwin a écrit :
>  I apologize, but, I've never quite figured out what to do with
>  dmesg,
>  or what to look for in its output, etc..
>  it really just confuses me...
>  I saw this: 15.690807] EXT3-fs (sda1): warning: checktime reached,
>  running
>  e2fsck is recommended
>  [   15.722318] EXT3-fs (sda1): using internal journal
> >>> 
> >>> Looking for places that talk about the device causing problems would
> >>> be a
> >>> good start. Your problems are on /dev/sdb, so why do you bother with
> >>> lines
> >>> about /dev/sda?
> >>> 
>  and tried to e2fsk /dev/sdb2
> >>> 
> >>> And yet again you did not read part of my previous mail, the one
> >>> about
> >>> using
> >>> Linux's fsck on microsoft's filesystems.
> > 
> > I have no knowlege of what a windows equivalent to fsck would be.
> > I hardly use that system.
> > I only even installed it, because for a brief while I was doing some
> > work for the State (I work freelance from home) that required windows
> > only software (my contacts with the state didn't even know what
> > gnu/linux is), and it had to be run on bare metal, not in a virtual
> > environment.
> > Thankfully, I am no longer doing that work.
> > That system is so slow, stupid and crippled that it's maddening!
>  
>  I let windows do it's auto-repair thingy, and when I booted back to
>  Debian, things looked like maybe they were back to normal. I was able
>  to
>  do:
>  $ ls -li
>  total 12
>  1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
>  1357617 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 win7
>  1357619 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 winhome
>  
>  Then I tried do mount them again, and got the I/O error,
>  and they're back to doing this:
>  $ ls -li
>  ls: cannot access winhome: Input/output error
>  ls: cannot access win7: Input/output error
>  total 4
>  1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
>  
>    ? d? ? ??   ?? win7
>    ? d? ? ??   ?? winhome
>  
>  I don't get it...
> >>> 
> >>> This can't have anything to do with "the microsoft version of fsck",
> >>> because the windows disk (which is actually split into two partitions,
> >>> one with the win7 system, and one that's just storage) is running fine
> >>> when I boot it (for a crippled OS, anyway), and mounting the storage
> >>> partition fine, too.
> >>> PLus, I'm having trouble sshfs mounting a remote server running Debian,
> >>> which worked fine days ago, now when I try it I get the same I/O errors,
> >>> and wierd inode issues I'm getting with this local hdd.
> >> 
> >> To confirm.
> >> I booted back to windows and did a chkdsk (I'm assuming this is the
> >> nearest thing to a Windows approximation of fsck) for both C:// (the
> >> win7 system and /dev/sdb2) and D:// (storage, /dev/sdb3), and still
> >> cannot mount either partition on this drive when I come back to my
> >> Debian system.
> >> The disk itself is fine, the problem is with the debian system somewhere.
> >> Oh, and I have been able to sshfs mount my remote server again, btw
> >> 
> >> ]$ dmesg | grep sdb
> >> [3.098300] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 2930277168 512-byte logical blocks:
> >> (1.50 TB/1.36 TiB)
> >> [3.098341] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> >> [3.098343] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> >> [3.098360] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
> >> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
> >> [3.132979]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
> >> [3.133999] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
> >> 
>  ./Tony
> > 
> > The problem seems to be your system and not the mounted disks with NTFS or
> > any remote shares.
> 
> That's what I'd been trying to say.
> 
> > shot into the dark:
> > might be that your root partition is full or ran out of inodes?
> > df -hi
> > 
> > also start your system using a live cd, e.g. knoppix
> > 
> >  [boot with "knoppix 2" to use only command line] and "fsck /dev/sdxn"
> >  where x> 
> > is the letter of the hard disk where your system resides and n is the
> > number of the pertinent partition(s).
> 
> I had gparted try to check/repair that disk (not mounted anyway, so why
> not?), which failed.
> I have posted the output here:
> 

Re: Installing a MINIMAL Mate Desktop How?

[Brian]

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 06:47:23 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> When Squeeze was the latest I was able to install without any desktop.
> I would then do
>apt-get install gnome-session gdm3 gedit gnome-terminal gparted
> The result was a nice uncluttered desktop to which I could add what *I*
> needed rather than what the proverbial "everybody" should have ;)

gnome-session pulls in xserver-org-video-all and installs it on the
*same* machine. Graphical programs like gnome-terminal and gedit run on
the *same* machine as the X server runs on and will display an output
there. This is a very common situation but it does not have to be like
that.

An X server runs and produces an output on the machine you are sitting
in front of. Programs like gedit could be on a *different* machine. This
is just as valid a setup as the "common" one. It implies that such
things as, for example, window manager packages do not depend on an X
server being installed.

> According to http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download#debian I should be able
> to do
>apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core
> 
> That is not enough, it leaves me with only a command line.

You got what was promised - a minimal mate install. You need an X server
on that machine or another one if you want other than the command line.

> I have the full Mate desktop on one machine. Using Synaptic on that machine
> and using apt-get install  on the other I was able too identify some
> missing pieces.
> 
> "apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core" does not install marco,
> xorg, xterm, nor lightdm. My brute force diagnostic procedure was to install
> each of them in the order listed with a reboot in between to see if
> everything worked. It did not. After installing each of the 1st three I was
> left at the command line. After installing lightdm I was presented with a
> blank screen.

mate-desktop-environment-core depends on marco. There is something
seriously wrong if it was not installed.

xorg isn't required to be on the same machine as mate; that is why it
was not installed. mate-terminal does the same job as xterm. The mate
maintainers might have decided not have a DM as a depended on or
recommended package.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Jessie & Fixed IP Address_Solved

[David]

On Fri, 2016-09-09 at 09:40 +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Sep 2016 09:12:14 +0100
> David  wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Firstly an apology, I did not realise there was a Debian Jessie and
> > a
> > Raspbian Jessie.
> > 
> > I'm working with Raspbian Jessie.
> > 
> 
> Debian is the root of many other distributions such as Knoppix and
> Ubuntu, and many less famous.
> 
> Raspbian is one that rings bells because it is based on the ARM,
> which
> probably no full-sized computer is these days (the Acorn Archimedes
> series used it almost thirty years ago). The range of Debian packages
> ported to the ARM RISC architecture is significantly smaller than
> those
> for i386 and amd64, so some things have to be done differently. The
> limitations of the system-on-chip which composes almost all of the Pi
> hardware imposes further limitations, compared to general-purpose
> desktop hardware or even laptop hardware. The relatively small
> storage
> space available again imposes restrictions.
> 
> So Raspbian may well be quite different to a stock amd64 Jessie,
> utilising many of the tricks of older days of computing to make the
> best of limited hardware.
> 
Many thanks to all those that replied.

The problem was that the person who created the SD card for the Pi did
a few odd things, hence some things did not work.

One was reading the DNS server settings when in fixed IP mode,
resolv.conf was empty. Putting the Pi back into DHCP mode caused a
whole multitude of problems.

The thing learnt here is to wipe the SD card clean, I use GPARTED, then
write the image to the SD card, I use Susie Image Writer.

Just to confirm Raspbian Jessie is working correctly with the
instructions given previously to get it into fixed IP mode.

David.

Re: mount problems Please Help! Can't sshfs mount remote debian server, mount local 2nd hdd, nothing...

[Anthony Baldwin]

On 09/11/2016 08:54 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:

On Sonntag, 11. September 2016 08:12:24 PYT Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/11/2016 06:37 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 07:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:34 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:07 PM, Nicolas George wrote:

Le quintidi 25 fructidor, an CCXXIV, Anthony Baldwin a écrit :

I apologize, but, I've never quite figured out what to do with dmesg,
or what to look for in its output, etc..
it really just confuses me...
I saw this: 15.690807] EXT3-fs (sda1): warning: checktime reached,
running
e2fsck is recommended
[   15.722318] EXT3-fs (sda1): using internal journal


Looking for places that talk about the device causing problems would
be a
good start. Your problems are on /dev/sdb, so why do you bother with
lines
about /dev/sda?


and tried to e2fsk /dev/sdb2


And yet again you did not read part of my previous mail, the one about
using
Linux's fsck on microsoft's filesystems.


I have no knowlege of what a windows equivalent to fsck would be.
I hardly use that system.
I only even installed it, because for a brief while I was doing some
work for the State (I work freelance from home) that required windows
only software (my contacts with the state didn't even know what
gnu/linux is), and it had to be run on bare metal, not in a virtual
environment.
Thankfully, I am no longer doing that work.
That system is so slow, stupid and crippled that it's maddening!


I let windows do it's auto-repair thingy, and when I booted back to
Debian, things looked like maybe they were back to normal. I was able to
do:
$ ls -li
total 12
1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
1357617 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 win7
1357619 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 winhome

Then I tried do mount them again, and got the I/O error,
and they're back to doing this:
$ ls -li
ls: cannot access winhome: Input/output error
ls: cannot access win7: Input/output error
total 4
1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown

  ? d? ? ??   ?? win7
  ? d? ? ??   ?? winhome

I don't get it...


This can't have anything to do with "the microsoft version of fsck",
because the windows disk (which is actually split into two partitions,
one with the win7 system, and one that's just storage) is running fine
when I boot it (for a crippled OS, anyway), and mounting the storage
partition fine, too.
PLus, I'm having trouble sshfs mounting a remote server running Debian,
which worked fine days ago, now when I try it I get the same I/O errors,
and wierd inode issues I'm getting with this local hdd.


To confirm.
I booted back to windows and did a chkdsk (I'm assuming this is the
nearest thing to a Windows approximation of fsck) for both C:// (the
win7 system and /dev/sdb2) and D:// (storage, /dev/sdb3), and still
cannot mount either partition on this drive when I come back to my
Debian system.
The disk itself is fine, the problem is with the debian system somewhere.
Oh, and I have been able to sshfs mount my remote server again, btw

]$ dmesg | grep sdb
[3.098300] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 2930277168 512-byte logical blocks:
(1.50 TB/1.36 TiB)
[3.098341] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[3.098343] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[3.098360] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[3.132979]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
[3.133999] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk


./Tony


The problem seems to be your system and not the mounted disks with NTFS or any
remote shares.

That's what I'd been trying to say.


shot into the dark:
might be that your root partition is full or ran out of inodes?
df -hi

also start your system using a live cd, e.g. knoppix
 [boot with "knoppix 2" to use only command line] and "fsck /dev/sdxn" where x
is the letter of the hard disk where your system resides and n is the number
of the pertinent partition(s).


I had gparted try to check/repair that disk (not mounted anyway, so why 
not?), which failed.

I have posted the output here:
http://tonybaldwin.me/files/gparted_details.htm


is your /usr, /var and /tmp on the same partition than your root?

Yes, my Debian system is all on one disk and one partition, even /home.


hope that helps to analize the problem further

Cheers
Eike




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[Solved] Re: A few questions about cgroups in Debian 8 (Jessie)

[mo]

Hello Debian users :)

I have googled a little bit and came to the conclusion that cgroups 
should be managed with systemd. (Thanks to Nicolas George for the 
systemd hint :^) )


For anyone who is interested here is a good guide from RedHat about 
resource management with cgroups and systemd:


PDF:
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/pdf/Resource_Management_Guide/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-7-Resource_Management_Guide-en-US.pdf

Single page html:
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html-single/Resource_Management_Guide/index.html

Have a nice day guys ;)

best regards

mo

Re: mount problems Please Help! Can't sshfs mount remote debian server, mount local 2nd hdd, nothing...

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Sonntag, 11. September 2016 08:12:24 PYT Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/11/2016 06:37 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> > On 09/10/2016 07:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> >> On 09/10/2016 03:34 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> >>> On 09/10/2016 03:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>  On 09/10/2016 03:07 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Le quintidi 25 fructidor, an CCXXIV, Anthony Baldwin a écrit :
> >> I apologize, but, I've never quite figured out what to do with dmesg,
> >> or what to look for in its output, etc..
> >> it really just confuses me...
> >> I saw this: 15.690807] EXT3-fs (sda1): warning: checktime reached,
> >> running
> >> e2fsck is recommended
> >> [   15.722318] EXT3-fs (sda1): using internal journal
> > 
> > Looking for places that talk about the device causing problems would
> > be a
> > good start. Your problems are on /dev/sdb, so why do you bother with
> > lines
> > about /dev/sda?
> > 
> >> and tried to e2fsk /dev/sdb2
> > 
> > And yet again you did not read part of my previous mail, the one about
> > using
> > Linux's fsck on microsoft's filesystems.
> >>> 
> >>> I have no knowlege of what a windows equivalent to fsck would be.
> >>> I hardly use that system.
> >>> I only even installed it, because for a brief while I was doing some
> >>> work for the State (I work freelance from home) that required windows
> >>> only software (my contacts with the state didn't even know what
> >>> gnu/linux is), and it had to be run on bare metal, not in a virtual
> >>> environment.
> >>> Thankfully, I am no longer doing that work.
> >>> That system is so slow, stupid and crippled that it's maddening!
> >> 
> >> I let windows do it's auto-repair thingy, and when I booted back to
> >> Debian, things looked like maybe they were back to normal. I was able to
> >> do:
> >> $ ls -li
> >> total 12
> >> 1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
> >> 1357617 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 win7
> >> 1357619 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 winhome
> >> 
> >> Then I tried do mount them again, and got the I/O error,
> >> and they're back to doing this:
> >> $ ls -li
> >> ls: cannot access winhome: Input/output error
> >> ls: cannot access win7: Input/output error
> >> total 4
> >> 1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
> >> 
> >>   ? d? ? ??   ?? win7
> >>   ? d? ? ??   ?? winhome
> >> 
> >> I don't get it...
> > 
> > This can't have anything to do with "the microsoft version of fsck",
> > because the windows disk (which is actually split into two partitions,
> > one with the win7 system, and one that's just storage) is running fine
> > when I boot it (for a crippled OS, anyway), and mounting the storage
> > partition fine, too.
> > PLus, I'm having trouble sshfs mounting a remote server running Debian,
> > which worked fine days ago, now when I try it I get the same I/O errors,
> > and wierd inode issues I'm getting with this local hdd.
> 
> To confirm.
> I booted back to windows and did a chkdsk (I'm assuming this is the
> nearest thing to a Windows approximation of fsck) for both C:// (the
> win7 system and /dev/sdb2) and D:// (storage, /dev/sdb3), and still
> cannot mount either partition on this drive when I come back to my
> Debian system.
> The disk itself is fine, the problem is with the debian system somewhere.
> Oh, and I have been able to sshfs mount my remote server again, btw
> 
> ]$ dmesg | grep sdb
> [3.098300] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 2930277168 512-byte logical blocks:
> (1.50 TB/1.36 TiB)
> [3.098341] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> [3.098343] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> [3.098360] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
> [3.132979]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
> [3.133999] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
> 
> >> ./Tony

sorry should have read:
df -h *and* df -hi

Re: mount problems Please Help! Can't sshfs mount remote debian server, mount local 2nd hdd, nothing...

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Sonntag, 11. September 2016 08:12:24 PYT Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/11/2016 06:37 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> > On 09/10/2016 07:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> >> On 09/10/2016 03:34 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> >>> On 09/10/2016 03:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>  On 09/10/2016 03:07 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Le quintidi 25 fructidor, an CCXXIV, Anthony Baldwin a écrit :
> >> I apologize, but, I've never quite figured out what to do with dmesg,
> >> or what to look for in its output, etc..
> >> it really just confuses me...
> >> I saw this: 15.690807] EXT3-fs (sda1): warning: checktime reached,
> >> running
> >> e2fsck is recommended
> >> [   15.722318] EXT3-fs (sda1): using internal journal
> > 
> > Looking for places that talk about the device causing problems would
> > be a
> > good start. Your problems are on /dev/sdb, so why do you bother with
> > lines
> > about /dev/sda?
> > 
> >> and tried to e2fsk /dev/sdb2
> > 
> > And yet again you did not read part of my previous mail, the one about
> > using
> > Linux's fsck on microsoft's filesystems.
> >>> 
> >>> I have no knowlege of what a windows equivalent to fsck would be.
> >>> I hardly use that system.
> >>> I only even installed it, because for a brief while I was doing some
> >>> work for the State (I work freelance from home) that required windows
> >>> only software (my contacts with the state didn't even know what
> >>> gnu/linux is), and it had to be run on bare metal, not in a virtual
> >>> environment.
> >>> Thankfully, I am no longer doing that work.
> >>> That system is so slow, stupid and crippled that it's maddening!
> >> 
> >> I let windows do it's auto-repair thingy, and when I booted back to
> >> Debian, things looked like maybe they were back to normal. I was able to
> >> do:
> >> $ ls -li
> >> total 12
> >> 1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
> >> 1357617 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 win7
> >> 1357619 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 winhome
> >> 
> >> Then I tried do mount them again, and got the I/O error,
> >> and they're back to doing this:
> >> $ ls -li
> >> ls: cannot access winhome: Input/output error
> >> ls: cannot access win7: Input/output error
> >> total 4
> >> 1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
> >> 
> >>   ? d? ? ??   ?? win7
> >>   ? d? ? ??   ?? winhome
> >> 
> >> I don't get it...
> > 
> > This can't have anything to do with "the microsoft version of fsck",
> > because the windows disk (which is actually split into two partitions,
> > one with the win7 system, and one that's just storage) is running fine
> > when I boot it (for a crippled OS, anyway), and mounting the storage
> > partition fine, too.
> > PLus, I'm having trouble sshfs mounting a remote server running Debian,
> > which worked fine days ago, now when I try it I get the same I/O errors,
> > and wierd inode issues I'm getting with this local hdd.
> 
> To confirm.
> I booted back to windows and did a chkdsk (I'm assuming this is the
> nearest thing to a Windows approximation of fsck) for both C:// (the
> win7 system and /dev/sdb2) and D:// (storage, /dev/sdb3), and still
> cannot mount either partition on this drive when I come back to my
> Debian system.
> The disk itself is fine, the problem is with the debian system somewhere.
> Oh, and I have been able to sshfs mount my remote server again, btw
> 
> ]$ dmesg | grep sdb
> [3.098300] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 2930277168 512-byte logical blocks:
> (1.50 TB/1.36 TiB)
> [3.098341] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> [3.098343] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> [3.098360] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
> [3.132979]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
> [3.133999] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
> 
> >> ./Tony

The problem seems to be your system and not the mounted disks with NTFS or any 
remote shares.
shot into the dark:
might be that your root partition is full or ran out of inodes?
df -hi

also start your system using a live cd, e.g. knoppix
 [boot with "knoppix 2" to use only command line] and "fsck /dev/sdxn" where x 
is the letter of the hard disk where your system resides and n is the number 
of the pertinent partition(s).

is your /usr, /var and /tmp on the same partition than your root?

hope that helps to analize the problem further

Cheers
Eike

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Re: mount problems Please Help! Can't sshfs mount remote debian server, mount local 2nd hdd, nothing...

[Anthony Baldwin]

On 09/11/2016 06:37 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 07:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:



On 09/10/2016 03:34 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:07 PM, Nicolas George wrote:

Le quintidi 25 fructidor, an CCXXIV, Anthony Baldwin a écrit :

I apologize, but, I've never quite figured out what to do with dmesg,
or what to look for in its output, etc..
it really just confuses me...
I saw this: 15.690807] EXT3-fs (sda1): warning: checktime reached,
running
e2fsck is recommended
[   15.722318] EXT3-fs (sda1): using internal journal


Looking for places that talk about the device causing problems would
be a
good start. Your problems are on /dev/sdb, so why do you bother with
lines
about /dev/sda?


and tried to e2fsk /dev/sdb2


And yet again you did not read part of my previous mail, the one about
using
Linux's fsck on microsoft's filesystems.


I have no knowlege of what a windows equivalent to fsck would be.
I hardly use that system.
I only even installed it, because for a brief while I was doing some
work for the State (I work freelance from home) that required windows
only software (my contacts with the state didn't even know what
gnu/linux is), and it had to be run on bare metal, not in a virtual
environment.
Thankfully, I am no longer doing that work.
That system is so slow, stupid and crippled that it's maddening!

I let windows do it's auto-repair thingy, and when I booted back to
Debian, things looked like maybe they were back to normal. I was able to
do:
$ ls -li
total 12
1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
1357617 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 win7
1357619 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 winhome

Then I tried do mount them again, and got the I/O error,
and they're back to doing this:
$ ls -li
ls: cannot access winhome: Input/output error
ls: cannot access win7: Input/output error
total 4
1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
  ? d? ? ??   ?? win7
  ? d? ? ??   ?? winhome

I don't get it...

This can't have anything to do with "the microsoft version of fsck",
because the windows disk (which is actually split into two partitions,
one with the win7 system, and one that's just storage) is running fine
when I boot it (for a crippled OS, anyway), and mounting the storage
partition fine, too.
PLus, I'm having trouble sshfs mounting a remote server running Debian,
which worked fine days ago, now when I try it I get the same I/O errors,
and wierd inode issues I'm getting with this local hdd.


To confirm.
I booted back to windows and did a chkdsk (I'm assuming this is the 
nearest thing to a Windows approximation of fsck) for both C:// (the 
win7 system and /dev/sdb2) and D:// (storage, /dev/sdb3), and still 
cannot mount either partition on this drive when I come back to my 
Debian system.

The disk itself is fine, the problem is with the debian system somewhere.
Oh, and I have been able to sshfs mount my remote server again, btw

]$ dmesg | grep sdb
[3.098300] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 2930277168 512-byte logical blocks: 
(1.50 TB/1.36 TiB)

[3.098341] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[3.098343] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[3.098360] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: 
enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA

[3.132979]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
[3.133999] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk






./Tony








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Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Celejar

On 09/09/16 18:18, Celejar wrote:

 My laptop has 802.11 a/b/g WiFi and Fast Ethernet.  Wireless data
 transfers are slow (~50 Mbps).  Wired is twice as fast (100 Mbps); still
 slow.  Newer WiFi (n, ac) should be faster, but only the newest WiFi
 hardware can match or beat Gigabit.

>>> You get ~50Mbps over a/b/g? 54Mbps is the theoretical maximum, and
>>> everything I've read says that 20-24Mbps is the real-world maximum.

>> Still, 20-24 Mbps is more than 10 Mpbs I was seeing with rsync. There
>> could be a bottleneck somewhere?

> As per your own suggestion in another message, definitely benchmark
> with iperf to see if that's better.

Yes, it can be. I was thinking about what I said in a previous message
about the control information added by rsync on the packets sent.

I think this would be important only if we focus on the performance
(number of bits of data sent / total number of bits sent). In this case,
the focus is the transfer rate, for which the amount of control bits
used would be irrelevant since I think we need to know how many bits per
second we are getting, regardless of the utility have those bits.

> And as we discussed in another thread some time ago, (especially) if 
> you're using wireless, benchmark throughput in *both* directions,
> since the transmitter (or receiver) may be better on one machine than
> on another.

Interesting sidelight. Thanks for sharing.


Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Installing a MINIMAL Mate Desktop How?

[mo]

Hi Richard

I for one always make a minimal install, which means i only install the 
base. (You can select that in tasksel during the installation)


From there on i build the system so to speak myself. Installing xorg 
and the needed video driver, the core package for my DE of choice (which 
currently is gnome) and then i install my display manager of choice (i 
use gdm atm).

After that you either start gdm yourself by doing:
# systemctl enable gdm && systemctl start gdm
or you simply do a reboot... then you should be presented with your 
display manager of choice and you can login to your DE.


About your problem with having to less applications installed with the 
core mate package:

Have a look at the mate-desktop-environment meta package:
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/mate-desktop-environment
There you can see which applications get pulled in, you can select them 
yourself and then you can install the mate-desktop-environment-core 
package and add the software you need.


I hope this helps you

Best regards

mo

Am 11.09.2016 um 13:47 schrieb Richard Owlett:

When Squeeze was the latest I was able to install without any desktop.
I would then do
   apt-get install gnome-session gdm3 gedit gnome-terminal gparted
The result was a nice uncluttered desktop to which I could add what *I*
needed rather than what the proverbial "everybody" should have ;)

According to http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download#debian I should be
able to do
   apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core

That is not enough, it leaves me with only a command line.
I have the full Mate desktop on one machine. Using Synaptic on that
machine and using apt-get install  on the other I was able too
identify some missing pieces.

"apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core" does not install marco,
xorg, xterm, nor lightdm. My brute force diagnostic procedure was to
install each of them in the order listed with a reboot in between to see
if everything worked. It did not. After installing each of the 1st three
I was left at the command line. After installing lightdm I was presented
with a blank screen.

As I have minimal bandwidth available I am installing from purchased
DVD's - currently version 8.0.0 . After the point release later this
month I will obtain the latest.

Has anyone successfully done such a minimal install as I am attempting?
TIA

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, deloptes.

On 09/09/16 19:06, deloptes wrote:

>> Still, 20-24 Mbps is more than 10 Mpbs I was seeing with rsync. There
>> could be a bottleneck somewhere?

> In my case it was the IO on the disk - I couldn't do more than 12Mbps even
> on wired connection, because I have encrypted disk ... it took me a while
> to understand why though.

This is an interesting fact. Because 'orion' (the notebook used in the
mentioned test) also has an encrypted disk. In the test, the notebook
was pulling the files on the Windows VM on the wired network.

root@orion:~# dmsetup ls --target crypt
sda5_crypt  (254, 0)

root@orion:~# cryptsetup luksDump /dev/sda5 | grep Version -A3
Version:1
Cipher name:aes
Cipher mode:xts-plain64
Hash spec:  sha1

viper@orion:~$ lsblk --fs
NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID MOUNTPOINT
sda
├─sda1 /boot
├─sda2
└─sda5
  └─sda5_crypt
├─main-swap[SWAP]
├─main-root/
└─main-datos   /datos
sr0


I did not think this could affect so strongly in the network transfer.


Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Installing Lenny -- how to deal with expired repo signing keys?

[Rick Thomas]

On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:41 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater  
wrote:
> 
> Download DVD1. Install a minimum system from it (if it has enough for you, 
> build the whole system). In fact, the netinst will work and produce a 
> _really_ minimal base system if you don't add a network mirror.
> 
> Use apt-key add to add the expired keys if you must.
> 
> Install whatever you need.
> 
> At this point, I'd suggest doing this _only_ in a virtual machine to start 
> with
> before doing this for real on the machine you intend to use long-term.
> 
> Unless this is an absolutely "must do this on Lenny, nothing later will ever 
> work
> and there's bespoke software that we must use and it must be on a real 
> physical 
> machine" it is probably worth moving this to a VM at some point / moving to a 
> later
> version — given that Wheezy LTS expires in 2018 (that's current oldstable) 
> and we'll
> be releasing Debian 9 early next year at which point you'd be three major 
> versions
> behind.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> All the best,
> 
> AndyC

Thanks Andy.  That worked perfectly!

See below for a full explanation (TL;DNR)

What I needed to do was unbrick a Marvel OpenRD/Ultimate machine.  But the 
current (Jessie/Stretch) version of the openocd package doesn’t talk to the USB 
serial/JTAG interface.  I’ll be submitting a bugreport for that.

When all was said and done, Lenny was too far back (openocd would talk to the 
device, but it didn’t have any config files for OpenRD).  What I really needed 
was Squeeze.

So this is what I did:

  Download and burn the squeeze DVD-1.

  Use it to install a minimal Squeeze on a spare disk in an otherwise unused 
Windows PC.  If I didn’t have the PC available, I probably would have used a 
VM, as you suggested.

  Follow the unbricking directions at
https://www.newit.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2835.0
  and then restore the boot-loader environment as described at
https://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/openrd/install/

Big thanks! to Malcolm and James at NewIT and Debian’s own Martin Michlmayr for 
clear and straightforward instruction on the various parts of this process.

Happy ending: My OpenRD/Ultimate is back from zombie-land and feeling fine!

Enjoy!
Rick

Installing a MINIMAL Mate Desktop How?

[Richard Owlett]

When Squeeze was the latest I was able to install without any 
desktop.

I would then do
   apt-get install gnome-session gdm3 gedit gnome-terminal gparted
The result was a nice uncluttered desktop to which I could add 
what *I* needed rather than what the proverbial "everybody" 
should have ;)


According to http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download#debian I 
should be able to do

   apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core

That is not enough, it leaves me with only a command line.
I have the full Mate desktop on one machine. Using Synaptic on 
that machine and using apt-get install  on the other I was 
able too identify some missing pieces.


"apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-core" does not install 
marco, xorg, xterm, nor lightdm. My brute force diagnostic 
procedure was to install each of them in the order listed with a 
reboot in between to see if everything worked. It did not. After 
installing each of the 1st three I was left at the command line. 
After installing lightdm I was presented with a blank screen.


As I have minimal bandwidth available I am installing from 
purchased DVD's - currently version 8.0.0 . After the point 
release later this month I will obtain the latest.


Has anyone successfully done such a minimal install as I am 
attempting?

TIA

Re: [OT Consejo sobre portátil]

[dick]

El 11/09/16 a las 11:16, Angel Vicente escribió:

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El Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:27:50 +0200
Eduardo Rios  escribió:

El 10/09/16 a las 15:43, Camaleón escribió:


De las marcas que veo en PC Componentes iría por HP, Toshiba, MSI,
Asus (por ese orden).


Yo en portátiles, a no ser que HP haya mejorado mucho, yo no lo
recomendaría...

Yo tengo uno de 2011 de 17,3 pulgadas de pantalla... y vale que lleva
un i7 pero el ventilador es bastante ruidoso, y desde siempre me ha
parecido muy "tostadora". A su favor solo puedo decir que no me ha
fallado ningún componente todavía. Ahora mismo estoy escribiendo
desde él :)

En 2013 compré un Asus pequeñin de 10 ó 11 pulgadas y también estoy
muy contento con él. Lo mejor, super silencioso :-)


Varios de vosotros me ha aconsejado Asus, marca que tenía como la
última de la fila posiblemente por las peleas que he tenido con placas
base de sobremesa de esa marca, igual tenía que reconsiderar. ¿Es fácil
instalar Debian?, ¿Qué modelos son más aconsejables?

De MSI no conozco nada.

14'' igual es un poco grande todavía, es para llevarlo dentro de una
mochila.

Saludos



 Yo tengo un Asus hace tres años y no he tenido ningún problema con el 
, eso si , la calidad de los materiales plásticos , deja un poco que 
desear , sobre todo el teclado.
 Atento a las gráficas duales , intel + nvidia ,ya que te tocara 
instalar "Bumblebee".
 En distros basadas en ubuntu , como linux mint , esto esta mejor 
implementado , ya que cerrando sesión te deja elegir con cual de las dos 
quieres trabajar.

 Un saludo.

Actual problem resolution - was [Re: [Probable resolutuio] Re: How to diagnose an "apt-get instal"l problem]

[Richard Owlett]

On 9/10/2016 9:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

[snip]
Made multiple further tries installing various packages. Got
inconsistent results. The pattern leads me to believe the drive
is becoming flaky. I will create an ISO from the DVD for use on a
flash drive. 50+ years of trouble shooting in diverse
environments is educational ;/


Actual problem was intermittent typos in package name.
I mentally pronounce en-viron-ment as en-viro-ment.
I.E. PBKAC ;/

Re: mount problems Please Help! Can't sshfs mount remote debian server, mount local 2nd hdd, nothing...

[Anthony Baldwin]

On 09/10/2016 07:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:



On 09/10/2016 03:34 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 03:07 PM, Nicolas George wrote:

Le quintidi 25 fructidor, an CCXXIV, Anthony Baldwin a écrit :

I apologize, but, I've never quite figured out what to do with dmesg,
or what to look for in its output, etc..
it really just confuses me...
I saw this: 15.690807] EXT3-fs (sda1): warning: checktime reached,
running
e2fsck is recommended
[   15.722318] EXT3-fs (sda1): using internal journal


Looking for places that talk about the device causing problems would
be a
good start. Your problems are on /dev/sdb, so why do you bother with
lines
about /dev/sda?


and tried to e2fsk /dev/sdb2


And yet again you did not read part of my previous mail, the one about
using
Linux's fsck on microsoft's filesystems.


I have no knowlege of what a windows equivalent to fsck would be.
I hardly use that system.
I only even installed it, because for a brief while I was doing some
work for the State (I work freelance from home) that required windows
only software (my contacts with the state didn't even know what
gnu/linux is), and it had to be run on bare metal, not in a virtual
environment.
Thankfully, I am no longer doing that work.
That system is so slow, stupid and crippled that it's maddening!

I let windows do it's auto-repair thingy, and when I booted back to
Debian, things looked like maybe they were back to normal. I was able to
do:
$ ls -li
total 12
1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
1357617 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 win7
1357619 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 10  2015 winhome

Then I tried do mount them again, and got the I/O error,
and they're back to doing this:
$ ls -li
ls: cannot access winhome: Input/output error
ls: cannot access win7: Input/output error
total 4
1349304 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  5 13:55 myown
  ? d? ? ??   ?? win7
  ? d? ? ??   ?? winhome

I don't get it...

This can't have anything to do with "the microsoft version of fsck",
because the windows disk (which is actually split into two partitions,
one with the win7 system, and one that's just storage) is running fine
when I boot it (for a crippled OS, anyway), and mounting the storage 
partition fine, too.

PLus, I'm having trouble sshfs mounting a remote server running Debian,
which worked fine days ago, now when I try it I get the same I/O errors, 
and wierd inode issues I'm getting with this local hdd.




./Tony





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Resolved: no sound?

[Tony Baldwin]

On 09/10/2016 08:07 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 09/10/2016 06:24 PM, deloptes wrote:

Anthony Baldwin wrote:


On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

Suddenly I have no sound.
Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to
Opeth.

Pulseaudio is running:
ps aux | grep pulseaudio
tony  2340  0.5  0.0 370052  6788 ?S

I have verified that there is no hardware problem.
I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine.
Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound
worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or
the speakers.
Still stumped

./tony


I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices correctly
configured (and unmuted)

I couldn't figure out how to do this (no man page for pulseaudio-utils),
but eventually found something in th lxmenu for Audio->Pulseaudio Volume
Contol, and found that analog output was muted.
I Unmuted it and was startled by the glorious sound of YOB (doom metal),
I had inadvertently left playing earlier in an instance of mocp I'd
totally forgotten in a minimized terminal.




Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted.

This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it
stopped
or you rebooted and it was not there anymore?

regards






forgot to mark this resolved...done now
Tony
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Re: A few questions about cgroups in Debian 8 (Jessie)

[mo]

I have found a Fedora guide to cgroups (I know this is Debian.. but i 
could really not find anything specific to Debian)
They mention that there is a cgconfig service for systemd.. My problem 
is that i could not find a equivalent service for my Debian system.
Listing all the units with "systemctl list-units" did not show anything 
regarding cgroups specifically... Maybe i'm blind but i don't seem to 
find any information. (Sorry if i totally overlooked something)


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all ;)

Re: [OT Consejo sobre portátil]

[Angel Vicente]

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El Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:27:50 +0200
Eduardo Rios  escribió:
> El 10/09/16 a las 15:43, Camaleón escribió:
> 
> > De las marcas que veo en PC Componentes iría por HP, Toshiba, MSI,
> > Asus (por ese orden).  
> 
> Yo en portátiles, a no ser que HP haya mejorado mucho, yo no lo 
> recomendaría...
> 
> Yo tengo uno de 2011 de 17,3 pulgadas de pantalla... y vale que lleva
> un i7 pero el ventilador es bastante ruidoso, y desde siempre me ha 
> parecido muy "tostadora". A su favor solo puedo decir que no me ha 
> fallado ningún componente todavía. Ahora mismo estoy escribiendo
> desde él :)
> 
> En 2013 compré un Asus pequeñin de 10 ó 11 pulgadas y también estoy
> muy contento con él. Lo mejor, super silencioso :-)

Varios de vosotros me ha aconsejado Asus, marca que tenía como la
última de la fila posiblemente por las peleas que he tenido con placas
base de sobremesa de esa marca, igual tenía que reconsiderar. ¿Es fácil
instalar Debian?, ¿Qué modelos son más aconsejables?

De MSI no conozco nada.

14'' igual es un poco grande todavía, es para llevarlo dentro de una
mochila.

Saludos



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Re: service distant

[Jean-Michel OLTRA]

Bonjour,


Le dimanche 11 septembre 2016, Alex PADOLY a écrit...


> Existerait-il un paquet Debian ou un service à
> installer qui permettrait de sauvegarder ses fichiers sur un serveur
> mutualisé à accès ftp. 

> Merci pour vos idées. 

backup-manager le fait, et je l'avais utilisé ainsi. Rsnapshot aussi, je
crois.

En définitive, tu peux coupler ce que tu veux comme système d'archivage
avec un script basé sur lftp, par exemple.

-- 
jm

Re: service distant

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Sun, 11 Sep 2016 08:49:39 +,
Alex PADOLY  a écrit :

>  
> 
> Bonjour à tous, 
> 
> Existerait-il un paquet Debian ou un service à
> installer qui permettrait de sauvegarder ses fichiers sur un serveur
> mutualisé à accès ftp. 
> 
> Merci pour vos idées. 
> 
> Bon dimanche.
> 
> 
> Alex PADOLY 
>  

bonjour,

voici un topo :

http://serverfault.com/questions/24622/how-to-use-rsync-over-ftp


slt
bernard

service distant

[Alex PADOLY]

 

Bonjour à tous, 

Existerait-il un paquet Debian ou un service à
installer qui permettrait de sauvegarder ses fichiers sur un serveur
mutualisé à accès ftp. 

Merci pour vos idées. 

Bon dimanche.


Alex PADOLY 
 

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Gnome 3.21: how to define compose key?

[Joost Kraaijeveld]

Hi,

I want to use my right super key (right win) as my compose key to be
able to type accented letters. 

I have read the online manual regarding the compose key but that does
not work: there is no (disabled) "Compose Key" in "Activities-
>Keyboard->Typing". (The manual actually say "Activities->Keyboard-
>Shortcut tab->Typing" but I assume that that is for a previous version
of Gnome)

How do I enable a Compose  Key in Gnome 3.21?

TIA

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