Re: pétition de l'april

[fred]

Bonjour,

Là où je travaille, LibreOffice de MS Office 2013 cohabitent. Donc
effectivement, office 2013 sait travailler avec fichiers de type ods,
odt, ...

Notre nombre de licences MS Office 2013 étant limité, seuls quelque uns
(les cadres en général) l'on d'installé. Par contre, comme ce sont les
cadres qui sont généralement à l'origine des fichiers les plus partagés,
on se retrouve au mieux à travailler avec des fichiers enregistrés en
mode de compatibilité (.doc, .xls, ...) et au pire avec les formats par
défaut de la suite MS Office 2013 (docx, xlsx, ...).

Tout le monde ou presque enregistre ses fichiers dans le format proposé
par défaut, ce qui n'est pas sans poser parfois quelques problèmes. J'ai
récemment vu un fichier en .docx tout bonnement illisible avec
LibreOffice par exemple (pas trop vu de pb dans l'autre sens si ce n'est
des problèmes de compatibilité entre des macro excel et l'équivalent de
calc).

Fred

Le 25/09/2016 à 21:26, Erwan David a écrit :
> Le 25/09/2016 à 21:11, Christophe a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> Le 22/09/2016 à 14:39, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
>>> j'ignorais que maintenant et déjà en 2013, M$-Word propos(ait)e
>>> de créer des documents à des formats Libres.
>>> Es tu sûr d'être sous  M$-Word ?
>>
>>
>> Moi, j'en suis sur :)
>>
>> Et pas que depuis Office 2013 ... Office 2010 le permet déjà : en
>> enregistrement et lecture des ods/odt, depuis Word et Excel, et sans
>> addon particulier (et pas d'OpenOffice/LibreOffice installé non plus).
>>
>> Exemples en image lors de l'enregistrement depuis Word et Excel :
>>
>> http://perso.stux6.net/debian/20160925/word_odt.png
>>
>> http://perso.stux6.net/debian/20160925/excel_ods.png
>>
>> Moyennant mises à jour pour gérer les évolutions potentielles des
>> formats (et de gestion de ceux ci), ça fait donc globalement 6 ans que
>> le sujet n'est en fait plus vraiment un sujet si on se place de mon
>> point de vue.
>>
>> Attention : loin de moi l'idée de privilégier MS Office aux logiciels
>> libres, et encore moins de privilégier Windows à Linux, mais en ce qui
>> concerne ce point, je me devais de donner mon avis.
>>
>> @+
>> Christophe.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Sauf que personne utilisant MS Office ne sauvera en odt.
> De même au moins avec 2010 le support était minable, aucun format ne
> passait.
> 

Re: Typing Cyrillic script with a UK keyboard in an en-gb setting

[ken]

On 09/24/2016 10:10 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

My husband has just asked to do this.  His system is vanilla from this point
of view.  (Mine is in a mess, with a messed-up scim and no foreign
fonts "working", but that is another story.)

Advice please on the best way to achieve this for him.  I.e., what do those of
you doing this or similar find works comfortably.

Thanks,
Lisi

This may be of some help: 
http://linuxmanagers.blogspot.com/2016/09/using-multiple-language-keyboards-in.html

Re: Probar una alternativa para instalar Debian

[divagante]

El 25/09/16 a las 16:52, Miguel Matos escribió:

Muy buenas, quiero exponer mi caso: quiero instalar debian, ya tengo la
imagen del netinstall, del CD y DVD; pero, no tengo quien me facilite un
pendrive o microsd, y no dispongo de fondos para comprar un cd o dvd.
Quiero saber qué otro método puedo probar para instalar debian 8. Estaré
atentos a sus respuestas.

Sinceramente suyos, en espíritu y en ceros y unos,
@mamptecnocrata

--
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Interesante el link Miguel. El problema es que la gente que hace 
preguntas no-inteligentes no se tomara el trabajo de leer toda esa 
informacion.
 Igual sabes, sabemos: la intencion es buena y para algunos funciona. 
Gracias che.
<>

Re: A quien le pueda interesar

[Lesly Cintra]

Bueno lo que buscamos es primeramente lograr construir un repositorio local, 
pero ojo, paquete por paquete a medida que los vallamos consiguiendo y por 
orden de prioridad, con esto lograríamos, no sobrepasar las barreras, pero si 
que nos afecten menos. La otra idea que surgió es la de tratar de ir eliminando 
poco a poco y dentro de lo posible la dependencia del sistema a internet, ya 
que la mayoría de los cubanos aún no tenemos pleno acceso a este, así como 
brindar soporte local, etc. Crees que nos puedas ayudar.
Te agradezco de antemano.

Atentamente ..::LESCLAZ::..



En sept. 25, 2016 10:58 PM, en 10:58 PM, Emezeta  escrito:
>
>
>On 25/09/16 03:12, Lesly Cintra wrote:
>>
>> Hola, soy amante de la filosofía del compartir y por eso me he
>> enamorado del maravilloso mundo del software libre, pero tengo un
>> problema y es que no tengo acceso a internet desde el hogar y el
>> acceso que tengo es desde lugares públicos como parques, aparte de
>que
>> es un acceso muy muy lento y costoso. El problema real radica en que
>> hay ocasiones en la que puedo darme el lujos de gastar unos pesitos
>> para instalar tres o cuatro paquetes (con todo y dependencias) pero
>la
>> mayoría de las veces no lo puedo hacer, yo y varios de mis amigos nos
>> hemos enamorado de Debian y lo consideramos la mejor distro GNU/Linux
>> por lo que para solucionar nuestros problemas decidimos crear una
>> distro basada en Debian pero por mucho que hemos buscado no hemos
>> encontrado documentación sobre el tema, solo hemos encontrado
>> tutoriales de como personalizarla con herramientas como remastersys y
>> otras, pero no como crear una distro real basada en Debian.
>> Nuestro objetivo es crear nuestra propia distro con nuestro propio
>> repositorio de paquetes e irlo modificando para proporcionarle a los
>> cubanos un sistema GNU/Linux con calidad (ya que va a estar basado en
>> Debian) y sin limitaciones.
>> Agradezco de antemano las respuestas positivas que me puedan ofrecer.
>>
>> Sin más. Les deseo muchos éxitos.
>>
>
>Hola,
>
>¿Cual sería el orden de prioridades en cuanto a ventajas esperadas al
>disponer de una distro propia? Eso podría ayudar a orientar la búsqueda
>de posibles soluciones.
>
>Saludos

Re: problemas de autenticacion squirrelmail

[OddieX]

2016-09-24 3:16 GMT-03:00 Norveris Noa Labañino :
>
>
> El 24/09/16 a las 00:51, OddieX escribió:
>
> 2016-09-23 19:50 GMT-03:00 Norveris Noa Labañino :
>
> Gracias hermano por responder:
>
> El puerto 143 y 993 estan habilitados para imap, he hecho varias pruebas, y
> los log del servidor de correo (IredMail) el dovecot me muestra esto:
>
>
> Sep 23 17:50:07 imap-login: Info: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts in
> 0 secs): user=<>, method=PLAIN, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=
> Sep 23 17:50:23 imap-login: Info: Disconnected (auth failed, 1 attempts in 0
> secs): user=<>, method=CRAM-MD5, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=
> Sep 23 17:50:23 imap-login: Info: Disconnected (auth failed, 1 attempts in 0
> secs): user=<>, method=DIGEST-MD5, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=<1IjtwzM98AAKAQEe>
> Sep 23 17:51:27 imap-login: Info: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts in
> 0 secs): user=<>, method=PLAIN, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=<4GzHxzM9+AAKAQEe>
> Sep 23 17:52:08 imap-login: Info: Disconnected (no auth attempts in 0 secs):
> user=<>, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26, session=
> Sep 23 17:29:36 imap-login: Info: Disconnected (auth failed, 1 attempts in 0
> secs): user=<>, method=CRAM-MD5, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=
> Sep 23 17:29:36 imap-login: Info: Disconnected (auth failed, 1 attempts in 0
> secs): user=<>, method=DIGEST-MD5, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=
> Sep 23 17:30:00 imap-login: Info: Disconnected (no auth attempts in 0 secs):
> user=<>, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26, session=
> Sep 23 17:30:15 imap-login: Info: Disconnected (auth failed, 1 attempts in 0
> secs): user=<>, method=CRAM-MD5, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=
> Sep 23 17:30:15 imap-login: Info: Disconnected (auth failed, 1 attempts in 0
> secs): user=<>, method=DIGEST-MD5, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=
> Sep 23 17:30:29 imap-login: Info: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts in
> 0 secs): user=<>, method=PLAIN, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=
> Sep 23 17:30:53 imap-login: Info: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts in
> 0 secs): user=<>, method=PLAIN, rip=10.1.1.30, lip=10.1.1.26,
> session=
>
> Si se daran cuenta he probado con diferentes metodos PLAIN LOGIN DIGEST-MD5
> CRAM-MD5
>
> y con cada uno el webmail me da errores diferentes, ejemplo:
>
> con el metodo:
>
> Authentication type: plain  o login o CRAM-MD5 o DIGEST-MD5
> Secure IMAP (TLS)  : true
>
> me da este error
>
> Error connecting to IMAP server: tls://10.1.1.26.
> 0 :
>
> con el metodo
>
> Authentication type: plain
>
> Secure IMAP (TLS)  : false,
>
> el webmail me da este error
>
> Unknown user or password incorrect.
>
> con el metodo
>
> Authentication type: login
>
> Secure IMAP (TLS)  : false
>
> el webmail me da este error
>
> ERROR:Bad request: The IMAP server is reporting that plain text logins are
> disabled. Using CRAM-MD5 or DIGEST-MD5 authentication instead may work.
> Also, the use of TLS may allow SquirrelMail to login. Please contact your
> system administrator and report this error.
>
> con el metodo
>
> Authentication type: CRAM-MD5 o DIGEST-MD5
>
> Secure IMAP (TLS)  : false
>
> el webmail me da este error
>
> ERROR:Bad request: IMAP server does not appear to support the authentication
> method selected. Please contact your system administrator.
>
>
> El 23/09/16 a las 18:25, OddieX escribió:
>
> El día 23 de septiembre de 2016, 19:13, Norveris Noa Labañino
>  escribió:
>
> Colegas estoy usando un servidor IredMail, y funciona perfecto con su
> webmail, he montado otro servidor para alojar un webmail externo que se
> conecte al server IredMail, he provado con roundcube y squirrelmail, y no he
> podido encontrar la manera de poder ver los correos en un servidor webmail
> externo al iredmail.
>
> alguna sugerencias.
>
>
>
> Tenes que habilitarle el puerto 143 "IMAP" para afuera para que tanto
> squirrel o roundcube puedan consultar los correos...
>
> De todas maneras, deberias brindarnos un poco mas de informacion para
> poder determinar la falla... Con tu explicacion digamos que estamos en
> el aire :P
>
>
>
> Envia los archivos de configuracion, no se que usas por ej cyrus o
> curier, pero fijate el archivo imap.conf que tengas!
>
>
> Uso IredMail un complemento de postfix+dovecot+OpenLDAP +Amavisd +rouncube
> en un servidor externo rouncube y tambien estoy probando squirrelmail con
> los dos webmail estos ultimos mencionados es que me esta dando el problema,
> repito que el webmail que se encuentra en el mismo servidor de correo
> funciona muy bien.
>
> la configuracion de imap.conf
>
> ##
> ## IMAP specific settings
> ##
>
> protocol imap {
>
> }
>
>
> la configuracion de dovecot
>
> # Listen addresses.
> #   - '*' means all available IPv4 addresses.
> #   - '[::]' means all available IPv6 addresses.
> # Listen on all available addresses by 

Re: A quien le pueda interesar

[Emezeta]

On 25/09/16 03:12, Lesly Cintra wrote:
>
> Hola, soy amante de la filosofía del compartir y por eso me he
> enamorado del maravilloso mundo del software libre, pero tengo un
> problema y es que no tengo acceso a internet desde el hogar y el
> acceso que tengo es desde lugares públicos como parques, aparte de que
> es un acceso muy muy lento y costoso. El problema real radica en que
> hay ocasiones en la que puedo darme el lujos de gastar unos pesitos
> para instalar tres o cuatro paquetes (con todo y dependencias) pero la
> mayoría de las veces no lo puedo hacer, yo y varios de mis amigos nos
> hemos enamorado de Debian y lo consideramos la mejor distro GNU/Linux
> por lo que para solucionar nuestros problemas decidimos crear una
> distro basada en Debian pero por mucho que hemos buscado no hemos
> encontrado documentación sobre el tema, solo hemos encontrado
> tutoriales de como personalizarla con herramientas como remastersys y
> otras, pero no como crear una distro real basada en Debian.
> Nuestro objetivo es crear nuestra propia distro con nuestro propio
> repositorio de paquetes e irlo modificando para proporcionarle a los
> cubanos un sistema GNU/Linux con calidad (ya que va a estar basado en
> Debian) y sin limitaciones.
> Agradezco de antemano las respuestas positivas que me puedan ofrecer.
>
> Sin más. Les deseo muchos éxitos.
>

Hola,

¿Cual sería el orden de prioridades en cuanto a ventajas esperadas al
disponer de una distro propia? Eso podría ayudar a orientar la búsqueda
de posibles soluciones.

Saludos

Re: unsigned linux-image?

[Richard Hector]

On 26/09/16 14:59, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> On 26/09/16 14:43, Richard Hector wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> Does anyone know what the deal is with the recently-released
>> linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned package? It installs without
>> complaint, so aptitude doesn't mind its unsigned-ness - does the
>> 'unsigned' refer to something else?
>> Richard
> 
> Richard,
> 
> in this context, "signed" means signed for use with UEFI Secure Boot.
> Some recent kernels with no mention of signedness in their package name
> contain text like this:
> 
> "The kernel image and modules are signed for use with Secure Boot."
> 
> From: https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-4.7.0-1-amd64

Cheers - I don't tend to look at the detailed descriptions of packages I
think I'm familiar with :-)

I might make a suggestion on the kernel list, to add something to the
description of -unsigned packages ...

Richard

Re: unsigned linux-image?

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 26/09/16 14:43, Richard Hector wrote:

Hey all,
Does anyone know what the deal is with the recently-released
linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned package? It installs without
complaint, so aptitude doesn't mind its unsigned-ness - does the
'unsigned' refer to something else?
Richard


Richard,

in this context, "signed" means signed for use with UEFI Secure Boot. 
Some recent kernels with no mention of signedness in their package name 
contain text like this:


"The kernel image and modules are signed for use with Secure Boot."

From: https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-4.7.0-1-amd64

Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

unsigned linux-image?

[Richard Hector]

Hey all,

Does anyone know what the deal is with the recently-released
linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned package? It installs without
complaint, so aptitude doesn't mind its unsigned-ness - does the
'unsigned' refer to something else?

Richard

Re: keyboard options on gnome crashes

[Pavlos Parissis]

On 26/09/2016 02:06 πμ, Pavlos Parissis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am using testing and since last week, and without me changing
> anything, the keyboard settings crashes every time I click it.
> 
> How can I debug this? which daemon is handling this so I can strace it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Pavlos
> 

It is being fixed in 3.22.0-1 [1], which isn't available yet in testing.

Cheers,
Pavlos

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=838336, w



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Re: keyboard options on gnome crashes

[Pavlos Parissis]

On 26/09/2016 02:06 πμ, Pavlos Parissis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am using testing and since last week, and without me changing
> anything, the keyboard settings crashes every time I click it.
>
> How can I debug this? which daemon is handling this so I can strace it?
> 

Running gnome-control-center from a terminal gives me the following when
I click on keyboard:


gnome-control-center

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: Error building template
class 'CcKeyboardPanel' for an instance of type 'CcKeyboardPanel':
.:2:1622 Invalid property: GtkScrolledWindow.propagate_natural_width

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed

(gnome-control-center:5773): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add:
assertion 

keyboard options on gnome crashes

[Pavlos Parissis]

Hi,

I am using testing and since last week, and without me changing
anything, the keyboard settings crashes every time I click it.

How can I debug this? which daemon is handling this so I can strace it?

Thanks,
Pavlos



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Re: Building Debian Package From Upstream Source

[Ben Finney]

Stephen Allen  writes:

> So, I downloaded the upstream source, downloaded the most recent
> version of the Debian Package, so that I have a Debian source tree.

Is the upstream source you downloaded, different from the upstream source
(the ‘….orig.tar.gz’) to which the Debian packaging is intended to apply?

Especially when patches are needed, you shouldn't expect those patches
to apply to anything except the exact upstream version. The work of a
Debian package maintainer includes re-working the patches for each version.

-- 
 \   “You've got the brain of a four-year-old boy, and I'll bet he |
  `\ was glad to get rid of it.” —Groucho Marx |
_o__)  |
Ben Finney

Re: debian 6 ssh telnet not working

[Mark Fletcher]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 02:25:47PM -0400, Dave Cullins wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am using Debian 6 for my server.

Debian _6_? As in Squeeze? (if I remember right, given Jessie is 8)

> 
> SSH & telnet are not working, they both used to work.  Router setting look
> good and were confirmed by the Linksys support.
> 

My guess is either incompatibility of SSH libraries, or, since telnet 
also seems to be affected, incompatibility of mDNS eg your older server 
is not running Avahi and hence isn't making its presence known. That is 
a guess though, and is based on the assumption that both server and 
client are on your local network. Situation will no doubt be more 
complicated if they are not.

> when i try to telnet to my server i get 
> "Connection Refused By Host"
> 

I echo Brian's comment -- start with trying to ping the server from the 
client. Can the client see the server? Well actually...

1) Can the client ping the server by IP address not by name? If no, 
you have a routing problem between your client and your server and we 
will need to know much more about your setup to help you diagnose it. 

2) If yes, can the client resolve the name of the server into an IP address 
for itself? (determined by whether a ping by name instead of IP address 
works in the presence of a positive answer to 1) ). If so, I would start 
to suspect incompaitibilities between client and server libraries. If 
not, and 1) was yes, you can ssh using the IP address while we 
collectively try to figure out why name resolution is not working.

3) If the server is _not_ on the same network as the client, what is the 
output of -- "dig " when run from the client?

eg dig myserver.made.up.address.com

(you may need to first install the dnsutils package for dig to work)

For what it's worth, either during wheezy days or maybe late squeeze, I 
forget, some other ssh clients I use stopped working with my server because 
the client upgraded to a later version of SSH and the server didn't, and 
the client would not accept the server's version, regarding it as 
insecure, but the error message you got wasn't clear that that was the 
issue. Something similar could be going on here if the client side is 
less prehistoric than your server side.

I presume advocating an upgrade of your server wouldn't be considered helpful?

Mark

boot problem after updating dropbear

[Andrew McGlashan]

Hi,

After dropbear update as follows:

< ii  dropbear   2012.55-1.3
   amd64lightweight SSH2 server and client
---
> ii  dropbear   2012.55-1.3+deb7u1
   amd64lightweight SSH2 server and client

Debian Version 7.11 (Wheezy)

Before the update I could ssh to box, connecting with dropbear, and
unlock crypt volumes, then kill the askpass process to continue the boot.

After the update, the ssh session with dropbear is missing all sorts of
stuff; my aliases and other setup files aren't available.

I managed to manually boot by  attaching a keyboard to the box and doing
the following:

  - answer "askpass" prompt, it unlocks md0_crypt device which has root

  - it fails to mount other lvm2 volume groups, so Iogin at the
maintenance prompt.

  - I open the two other crypt volumes using:

  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/md1 md1_crypt

  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/md2 md2_crypt

  - then I exit from the maintenance prompt and the machine boots
normally from there.

Once back in to the machine, I run the following:

# update-initramfs -k all -u -v
Available versions:  3.2.0-4-amd64
Execute: /usr/sbin/update-initramfs -u -k "3.2.0-4-amd64" -b /boot -v
Keeping /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64.dpkg-bak
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64
Adding module
/lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/e1000e.ko
Copying module directory kernel/drivers/hid
(excluding hid-*ff.ko hid-a4tech.ko hid-cypress.ko hid-dr.ko
hid-elecom.ko hid-gyration.ko hid-icade.ko hid-kensington.ko hid-kye.ko
hid-lcpower.ko hid-magicmouse.ko hid-multitouch.ko hid-ntrig.ko
hid-petalynx.ko hid-picolcd.ko hid-pl.ko hid-ps3remote.ko hid-quanta.ko
hid-roccat-ko*.ko hid-roccat-pyra.ko hid-saitek.ko hid-sensor-hub.ko
hid-sony.ko hid-speedlink.ko hid-tivo.ko hid-twinhan.ko hid-uclogic.ko
hid-wacom.ko hid-waltop.ko hid-wiimote.ko hid-zydacron.ko)
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-ezkey.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-keytouch.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/usb/usb-common.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/usb/core/usbcore.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbhid.ko
Adding module
/lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-logitech-dj.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-chicony.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-roccat.ko
Adding module
/lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-roccat-common.ko
Adding module
/lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-roccat-arvo.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hv/hv_vmbus.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-hyperv.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-ortek.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-belkin.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-primax.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/input/ff-memless.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-sjoy.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-logitech.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-samsung.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-cherry.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-microsoft.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-monterey.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-topseed.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko
Adding module
/lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-device.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/sound/core/snd-rawmidi.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-prodikeys.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-sunplus.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-apple.ko
Copying module directory kernel/drivers/net
(excluding appletalk arcnet bonding can hamradio irda pcmcia tokenring
usb wan wimax wireless)
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/sungem_phy.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/fs/configfs/configfs.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/netconsole.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/mii.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/ifb.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/sb1000.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/macvlan.ko
Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/macvtap.ko
Adding module 

Re: Strange Gnome-terminal behaviour

[Michael Biebl]

Am 24.09.2016 um 10:02 schrieb Mark Fletcher:
> Not sure where I should be looking for the source of the problem.
> Keyboard is completely normal in other apps. (it is a Japanese keyboard,
> in a British English language environment, in case that matters. That is
> what I have been using all along).

Maybe create a fresh test user account and see if you can reproduce the
problem there. If not, this would suggest that it has something to do
with your current user configuration.

Michael


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Re: Servidor para receber sms

[Rodolfo]

Sou leigo no assunto, mas acredito que, assim como a internet, os serviços
de SMS (Short Message Service) precisam de um provedor, independente se
você vai utilizar um software e/ou hardware para isso, esses provedores são
chamados de SMC (Short Message Center) ou SMSC (Short Message Service
Center), no caso você poderia criar um SMSC, mas para isso não sei o que
precisa, mas com certeza seria algo como um registro de domínio, só que com
números telefônicos, claro, se você for seguir a linha GSM, se for via
internet ou conexões wireless, tem um software livre que talvez seja
interessante você estudar, segue o link:

http://www.kannel.org/

Bom, já cheguei a criar um software para envio de SMS, criei ele em Java,
era só o cliente conectar um aparelho GSM registrado na sua provedora, e o
software detectava e podia usar as conexões desse GSM para enviar os SMSs
via software standalone.

Boa sorte.

Em 25 de setembro de 2016 16:00, Rodrigo Cunha 
escreveu:

> Leonadro, aptitude ou ape-get não te dão todos os servidores de um
> serviço, eles lhe dão apenas os servidores que existem dentro dos
> repositórios instalados.
> ou seja, se você der um apt-get ou atitude vai encontrar apenas os
> softwares contidos dentro dos servidores de repositórios instalados.
> no meu caso eu gostaria de mais informações mesmo...mas obrigado pela
> lembrança.
>
> Em 25 de setembro de 2016 16:56, Rodrigo Cunha 
> escreveu:
>
>> srs. alguém tem experiencia com isso?
>> Estou na duvida se eu precisaria de um hardware ou se eu precisaria de um
>> provedor.No caso de um provedor se puderem coloquem os links para eu entrar
>> em contato com eles.
>> tks.
>>
>> Em 25 de setembro de 2016 08:41, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA <
>> l...@dutras.org> escreveu:
>>
>>> Le 25 septembre 2016 00:23:14 GMT-03:00, Rodrigo Cunha <
>>> rodrigo.root...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> >Olá srs. estou montando um projeto e gostaria de saber se existe algum
>>> >servidor Linux que possa receber mensagens sms.
>>>
>>> aptitude search sms gsm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat  Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra
>>> +55 (61) 3546 7191 (Net)gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org
>>> +55 (61) 9302 2691 (Vivo) ICQ/AIM: aim:GoIM?screenname=61287803
>>> BRAZIL GMT−3  MSN: msnim:chat?contact=lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Atenciosamente,
>> Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Atenciosamente,
> Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
>
>

Re: Probar una alternativa para instalar Debian

[divagante]

El 25/09/16 a las 16:52, Miguel Matos escribió:

Muy buenas, quiero exponer mi caso: quiero instalar debian, ya tengo la
imagen del netinstall, del CD y DVD; pero, no tengo quien me facilite un
pendrive o microsd, y no dispongo de fondos para comprar un cd o dvd.
Quiero saber qué otro método puedo probar para instalar debian 8. Estaré
atentos a sus respuestas.

Sinceramente suyos, en espíritu y en ceros y unos,
@mamptecnocrata

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 Hola! no necesitas ni la imagen iso!

 Te dejo con la informacion de un post que hice algun tiempo. Esta muy 
completo y bien explicado 'step by step' -como dicen ahora en mi barrio-:


http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/18325420/Como-Instalar-GNU-Linux-sin-CD-ni-USB-Completo.html

 Saludos.
<>

Re: Strange Gnome-terminal behaviour

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2016-09-25, Mark Fletcher  wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 05:37:14PM +0100, Joe wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 23:29:00 +0900
>> Mark Fletcher  wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 09:20:20AM -0500, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
>> > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:00:33PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:  
>> > > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 03:28:41AM -0500, Dutch Ingraham wrote:  
>> > > > >   
>> > > 
>
> Also I just ran mutt in an X terminal instead by invoking xterm from 
> Gnome-Terminal, and although the font is horrible and the window is too 
> small, it does NOT display the same psychotic intermittent scrolling 
> behaviour. 

[...] 

FWIW, you can tell xterm to use freetype fonts, e.g.,

xterm -fa "Monospace 12"

Alternatively, use the faceName resource in your ~/.Xresources file.

-- 

Liam

Re: Servidor para receber sms

[Rodrigo Cunha]

Leonadro, aptitude ou ape-get não te dão todos os servidores de um serviço,
eles lhe dão apenas os servidores que existem dentro dos repositórios
instalados.
ou seja, se você der um apt-get ou atitude vai encontrar apenas os
softwares contidos dentro dos servidores de repositórios instalados.
no meu caso eu gostaria de mais informações mesmo...mas obrigado pela
lembrança.

Em 25 de setembro de 2016 16:56, Rodrigo Cunha 
escreveu:

> srs. alguém tem experiencia com isso?
> Estou na duvida se eu precisaria de um hardware ou se eu precisaria de um
> provedor.No caso de um provedor se puderem coloquem os links para eu entrar
> em contato com eles.
> tks.
>
> Em 25 de setembro de 2016 08:41, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA <
> l...@dutras.org> escreveu:
>
>> Le 25 septembre 2016 00:23:14 GMT-03:00, Rodrigo Cunha <
>> rodrigo.root...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> >Olá srs. estou montando um projeto e gostaria de saber se existe algum
>> >servidor Linux que possa receber mensagens sms.
>>
>> aptitude search sms gsm
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat  Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra
>> +55 (61) 3546 7191 (Net)gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org
>> +55 (61) 9302 2691 (Vivo) ICQ/AIM: aim:GoIM?screenname=61287803
>> BRAZIL GMT−3  MSN: msnim:chat?contact=lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Atenciosamente,
> Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
>
>


-- 
Atenciosamente,
Rodrigo da Silva Cunha

Re: Servidor para receber sms

[Rodrigo Cunha]

srs. alguém tem experiencia com isso?
Estou na duvida se eu precisaria de um hardware ou se eu precisaria de um
provedor.No caso de um provedor se puderem coloquem os links para eu entrar
em contato com eles.
tks.

Em 25 de setembro de 2016 08:41, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA <
l...@dutras.org> escreveu:

> Le 25 septembre 2016 00:23:14 GMT-03:00, Rodrigo Cunha <
> rodrigo.root...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >Olá srs. estou montando um projeto e gostaria de saber se existe algum
> >servidor Linux que possa receber mensagens sms.
>
> aptitude search sms gsm
>
>
>
> --
> skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat  Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra
> +55 (61) 3546 7191 (Net)gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org
> +55 (61) 9302 2691 (Vivo) ICQ/AIM: aim:GoIM?screenname=61287803
> BRAZIL GMT−3  MSN: msnim:chat?contact=lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm
>



-- 
Atenciosamente,
Rodrigo da Silva Cunha

Probar una alternativa para instalar Debian

[Miguel Matos]

Muy buenas, quiero exponer mi caso: quiero instalar debian, ya tengo la
imagen del netinstall, del CD y DVD; pero, no tengo quien me facilite un
pendrive o microsd, y no dispongo de fondos para comprar un cd o dvd.
Quiero saber qué otro método puedo probar para instalar debian 8. Estaré
atentos a sus respuestas.

Sinceramente suyos, en espíritu y en ceros y unos,
@mamptecnocrata

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Re: pétition de l'april

[Erwan David]

Le 25/09/2016 à 21:11, Christophe a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> Le 22/09/2016 à 14:39, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
>> j'ignorais que maintenant et déjà en 2013, M$-Word propos(ait)e
>> de créer des documents à des formats Libres.
>> Es tu sûr d'être sous  M$-Word ?
> 
> 
> Moi, j'en suis sur :)
> 
> Et pas que depuis Office 2013 ... Office 2010 le permet déjà : en
> enregistrement et lecture des ods/odt, depuis Word et Excel, et sans
> addon particulier (et pas d'OpenOffice/LibreOffice installé non plus).
> 
> Exemples en image lors de l'enregistrement depuis Word et Excel :
> 
> http://perso.stux6.net/debian/20160925/word_odt.png
> 
> http://perso.stux6.net/debian/20160925/excel_ods.png
> 
> Moyennant mises à jour pour gérer les évolutions potentielles des
> formats (et de gestion de ceux ci), ça fait donc globalement 6 ans que
> le sujet n'est en fait plus vraiment un sujet si on se place de mon
> point de vue.
> 
> Attention : loin de moi l'idée de privilégier MS Office aux logiciels
> libres, et encore moins de privilégier Windows à Linux, mais en ce qui
> concerne ce point, je me devais de donner mon avis.
> 
> @+
> Christophe.
> 
> 
> 

Sauf que personne utilisant MS Office ne sauvera en odt.
De même au moins avec 2010 le support était minable, aucun format ne
passait.

Re: pétition de l'april

[Christophe]

Hello,

Le 22/09/2016 à 14:39, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

j'ignorais que maintenant et déjà en 2013, M$-Word propos(ait)e
de créer des documents à des formats Libres.
Es tu sûr d'être sous  M$-Word ?



Moi, j'en suis sur :)

Et pas que depuis Office 2013 ... Office 2010 le permet déjà : en 
enregistrement et lecture des ods/odt, depuis Word et Excel, et sans 
addon particulier (et pas d'OpenOffice/LibreOffice installé non plus).


Exemples en image lors de l'enregistrement depuis Word et Excel :

http://perso.stux6.net/debian/20160925/word_odt.png

http://perso.stux6.net/debian/20160925/excel_ods.png

Moyennant mises à jour pour gérer les évolutions potentielles des 
formats (et de gestion de ceux ci), ça fait donc globalement 6 ans que 
le sujet n'est en fait plus vraiment un sujet si on se place de mon 
point de vue.


Attention : loin de moi l'idée de privilégier MS Office aux logiciels 
libres, et encore moins de privilégier Windows à Linux, mais en ce qui 
concerne ce point, je me devais de donner mon avis.


@+
Christophe.

Re: debian 6 ssh telnet not working

[Brian]

On Sun 25 Sep 2016 at 14:25:47 -0400, Dave Cullins wrote:

> I am using Debian 6 for my server.
> 
> SSH & telnet are not working, they both used to work.  Router setting look
> good and were confirmed by the Linksys support.

You are using Jessie on the client?

Now they do not work. You have made no changes whatsoever on the server
or client in the past week or month?

> when i try to telnet to my server i get 
> "Connection Refused By Host"

What does

  ping 

give you. Please post the complete output of the command.

> can you advise or forward me to a resource

When you clarify it might be possible.

-- 
Brian.

debian 6 ssh telnet not working

[Dave Cullins]

Hello

I am using Debian 6 for my server.

SSH & telnet are not working, they both used to work.  Router setting 
look good and were confirmed by the Linksys support.


when i try to telnet to my server i get 
"Connection Refused By Host"

can you advise or forward me to a resource

Thx

Dave

Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory), but the script DOES exist in $HOME/bin, openbox users, especially take a look, please.

[Brian]

On Sat 24 Sep 2016 at 20:38:50 +0100, Brian wrote:

> On Fri 23 Sep 2016 at 17:36:11 +0100, Brian wrote:
> 
> I don't think I shall be pointing a user to this wiki page in its
> present state.

~/.xessionrc as the primary file for configuring startup of X is not
only not necessary but has a disadvantage from an administrator's
point of view.

 > System-wide configuration of the Debian X session consists
 > mainly of options inside the /etc/X11/Xsession.options file,
 > and scripts inside the /etc/X11/Xsession.d directory. These
 > scripts are all dotted in by a single /bin/sh shell, in the
 > order determined by sorting their names. Administrators may
 > edit the scripts, though caution is advised if you are not
 > comfortable with shell programming.

Correct, but it neglects an aspect of ~/.xessionrc integration into
Debian's X which renders any editing of Xsession.options by an
adminstrator ineffective. Essentionally, 50x11-common_determine-startup
has

 if [ -z "$STARTUP" ]; then
   if has_option allow-user-xsession; then
 for STARTUPFILE in "$USERXSESSION" "$ALTUSERXSESSION"; do

There is no corresponding restriction in 40x11-common_xsessionrc and a
user can put what she wants in ~/.xessionrc. Security is first designed
in and then designed out.

To be fair, the documentation is hazy on this and it is probably a bug.
But surely the purpose of a wiki page is not only to fit and explain the
official documentation but, where necessary, expand on it and even
correct it.

The existence of ~/.xessionrc appears to cause more problems than it
purportedly solves.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Typing Cyrillic script with a UK keyboard in an en-gb setting

[Brian]

On Sat 24 Sep 2016 at 15:07:10 +, david...@freevolt.org wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> >My husband has just asked to do this.  His system is vanilla from this point
> >of view.  (Mine is in a mess, with a messed-up scim and no foreign
> >fonts "working", but that is another story.)
> >
> >Advice please on the best way to achieve this for him.  I.e., what do those 
> >of
> >you doing this or similar find works comfortably.
> 
> This is what I use in my /etc/default/keyboard file:
> 
>$ grep '^[^#]' /etc/default/keyboard
>XKBMODEL="pc101"
>XKBLAYOUT="us,ru,sy"
>XKBVARIANT=""
>XKBOPTIONS="grp:caps_toggle,compose:menu"
>BACKSPACE="guess"
> 
> The "ru" portion of the XKBLAYOUT value, and the "grp:caps_toggle"
> setting in XKBOPTIONS are the relevant parts for your purposes.
> 
> It makes capslock a toggle between en_US, russian, and syrian arabic
> keyboard layout.
> 
> The usual capslock function is still available via Shift+Capslock.
> 
> I'll be interested to see other responses.

Neat! Done as root, of course, because I do not think a user can change
the keymap. The setupcon manual implies a ~/.keyboard can be used but it
does not work for me.

However, a user can set the screen font by specifing a file to use with
VARIANT. This is ~/.console-setup.CYR:

  ACTIVE_CONSOLES="/dev/tty[1-6]"
  CHARMAP="UTF-8"
  CODESET="CyrSlav"
  FONTFACE="TerminusBold"
  FONTSIZE="14x28"

Load it with 'setupcon -f' CYR.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Strange Gnome-terminal behaviour

[Dutch Ingraham]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:05:44AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> Also I just ran mutt in an X terminal instead by invoking xterm from 
> Gnome-Terminal, and although the font is horrible and the window is too 
> small, it does NOT display the same psychotic intermittent scrolling 
> behaviour. So the problem really does seem to be confined to Gnome 
> Terminal. And, it is worse than it was a few days ago -- in the last 
> week or so I have been doing a lot of shell scripting work and would 
> probably have broken my keyboard over my knee if I had been having the 
> problems all week I've been having in the last few days... Which is 
> really weird when I think about it because this is Jessie and yesterday 
> was the first time I had applied any updates in 2 weeks... And I was 
> seeing the problem before the update...
> 
> That suggests hardware, but the fact that no other application is 
> affected suggests not... Confused.

I don't use gnome terminal, but for lack of anyone throwing anything else 
against 
the wall, the next two things I would try are:

1. If there is an application cache, clear it; and
2. If the application uses profiles of any kind, try a new, blank one.  

Related to those, you could create a new regular user, and log in as him/her, 
which
should give a "blank slate" to test from.  Lastly, purge the application and all
config files and re-install (or just install Terminator or some such
replacement).

Re: Building Debian Package From Upstream Source

[Santiago Vila]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 10:43:04AM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> Then I ran 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j4' as root' [...]

Note: Debian packages do not require to be built by root, so it's better
that you don't. Using fakeroot is the default. Just install it
and it will be used automatically by dpkg-buildpackage.

Re: Strange Gnome-terminal behaviour

[Mark Fletcher]

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 05:37:14PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 23:29:00 +0900
> Mark Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 09:20:20AM -0500, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:00:33PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:  
> > > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 03:28:41AM -0500, Dutch Ingraham wrote:  
> > > > >   
> > > 

Also I just ran mutt in an X terminal instead by invoking xterm from 
Gnome-Terminal, and although the font is horrible and the window is too 
small, it does NOT display the same psychotic intermittent scrolling 
behaviour. So the problem really does seem to be confined to Gnome 
Terminal. And, it is worse than it was a few days ago -- in the last 
week or so I have been doing a lot of shell scripting work and would 
probably have broken my keyboard over my knee if I had been having the 
problems all week I've been having in the last few days... Which is 
really weird when I think about it because this is Jessie and yesterday 
was the first time I had applied any updates in 2 weeks... And I was 
seeing the problem before the update...

That suggests hardware, but the fact that no other application is 
affected suggests not... Confused.

Mark

Re: Building Debian Package From Upstream Source

[Mark Fletcher]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 10:43:04AM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> Hi, wanting to upgrade to a newer version of Liferea than what's in
> Testing.
> 
> So, I downloaded the upstream source, downloaded the most recent version
> of the Debian Package, so that I have a Debian source tree. Next I
> copied the Debian source tree directory from the existing Debian source
> package into the upstream source, with Debian dsc and OrigSrc one level
> up.
> Then I ran 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j4' as root' which gave me the
> following error;
> 



>  dpkg-source: info: applying debian-example-feeds.patch
>  dpkg-source: info: applying www-browser.patch
>  patching file src/browser.c
>  Hunk #1 FAILED at 72.


I think what you have here is a package-specific problem. The Debian 
build is attempting to apply patches to the source. Since you have 
grafted in newer source, I suspect the affected source file has been 
updated in an incompatible way and now the patch doesn't work 
(presumably because the lines it expects to change are either gone or 
are no longer at the expected line numbers in the source file).

What can you do about this? Not a lot, except maybe if you have the 
skills take the Debian Testing source, apply the patch yourself to get 
the patched source file, then diff this with the newer source file and 
figure out if the intent of the patch is still needed. If so, you'd need 
to apply it manually to the updated source, or, if you are lucky, obtain 
an updated patch from somewhere.

Depending on how strong a programmer you are, you may or may not be able 
to do this. Another option would be to go back to the package developers 
(the original developers, not the Debian package maintainer) and ask if 
they have an updated version of the patch, if it is still needed / 
recommended.

I assume there isn't a sufficiently up to date version of the package in 
sid??? :-)

Mark

Building Debian Package From Upstream Source

[Stephen Allen]

Hi, wanting to upgrade to a newer version of Liferea than what's in
Testing.

So, I downloaded the upstream source, downloaded the most recent version
of the Debian Package, so that I have a Debian source tree. Next I
copied the Debian source tree directory from the existing Debian source
package into the upstream source, with Debian dsc and OrigSrc one level
up.
Then I ran 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j4' as root' which gave me the
following error;

dpkg-buildpackage: info: source package liferea
dpkg-buildpackage: info: source version 1.10.19-2
dpkg-buildpackage: info: source distribution unstable
dpkg-buildpackage: info: source changed by David Michael Smith

dpkg-buildpackage: info: host architecture amd64
 dpkg-source --before-build liferea-1.12-rc1a
 dpkg-source: info: using options from
 liferea-1.12-rc1a/debian/source/options: --compression=xz
 dpkg-source: info: applying debian-example-feeds.patch
 dpkg-source: info: applying www-browser.patch
 patching file src/browser.c
 Hunk #1 FAILED at 72.
 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED
 patching file net.sf.liferea.gschema.xml.in
 dpkg-source: info: the patch has fuzz which is not allowed, or is
 malformed
 dpkg-source: info: if patch 'www-browser.patch' is correctly applied by
 quilt, use 'quilt refresh' to update it
 dpkg-source: info: restoring quilt backup files for www-browser.patch
 dpkg-source: error: LC_ALL=C patch -t -F 0 -N -p1 -u -V never -E -b -B
 .pc/www-browser.patch/ --reject-file=- <
 liferea-1.12-rc1a/debian/patches/www-browser.patch gave error exit
 status 1
 dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source --before-build liferea-1.12-rc1a
 gave error exit status 2

 

 I'm new to building Debian packages, so any suggestions appreciated,
 I'm running Debian 'Testing'.

Re: Strange Gnome-terminal behaviour

[Mark Fletcher]

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 05:37:14PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 23:29:00 +0900
> Mark Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 09:20:20AM -0500, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> > 
> 
> Anything in /var/log/syslog when it happens? In sid, GTK is spraying
> out GtkScrollBar errors...
> 

I just scrolled around in Mutt, exercising the issue, for a few minutes 
while another terminal was running sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog and yet 
another was running sudo journalctl -f, and silence from both of them 
while doing the test. The only thing close was this, but it was already 
in the log when I started the test, so is probably caused by something 
else:

Sep 25 22:39:27 kazuki gnome-session[2374]: 
(gnome-settings-daemon:2482): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 1714 was not 
found when attempting to remove it

Apart from that, nothing that looks likely connected and nothing at all 
while I was observing the issue in Mutt in one Gnome terminal while 
watching these logs in two others.

I have noticed since my first post that, if I wait long enough (at least 
several seconds, sometimes almost a minute) the scrolling keystroke IS 
eventually responded to. As I said before, the machine is not under load 
that is in any way abnormal -- 2 Windows 7 VMs that aren't doing 
anything if I am using a terminal because they are on other Gnome pages, 
a bunch of terminals open, and maybe a program or two more open. But the 
box is a chunky machine and all other apps are functioning completely 
normally. I am only seeing this behaviour in Gnome Terminal.

I'd be suspecting my keyboard needs fresh batteries (ASUS Bluetooth 
keyboard) if it weren't for the fact that normal typing is completely 
fine and all other apps are fine anyway. 

Mark

Re: A quien le pueda interesar

[Amid Ale]

Buenas, saludos amigo Cubano. Seguramente si quieren profundizar en la
creación de una distribución linux podrían darle una mirada al
proyecto Linux From Scratch:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org

saludos

El día 25 de septiembre de 2016, 3:12, Lesly Cintra  escribió:
> Hola, soy amante de la filosofía del compartir y por eso me he enamorado del
> maravilloso mundo del software libre, pero tengo un problema y es que no
> tengo acceso a internet desde el hogar y el acceso que tengo es desde
> lugares públicos como parques, aparte de que es un acceso muy muy lento y
> costoso. El problema real radica en que hay ocasiones en la que puedo darme
> el lujos de gastar unos pesitos para instalar tres o cuatro paquetes (con
> todo y dependencias) pero la mayoría de las veces no lo puedo hacer, yo y
> varios de mis amigos nos hemos enamorado de Debian y lo consideramos la
> mejor distro GNU/Linux por lo que para solucionar nuestros problemas
> decidimos crear una distro basada en Debian pero por mucho que hemos buscado
> no hemos encontrado documentación sobre el tema, solo hemos encontrado
> tutoriales de como personalizarla con herramientas como remastersys y otras,
> pero no como crear una distro real basada en Debian.
> Nuestro objetivo es crear nuestra propia distro con nuestro propio
> repositorio de paquetes e irlo modificando para proporcionarle a los cubanos
> un sistema GNU/Linux con calidad (ya que va a estar basado en Debian) y sin
> limitaciones.
> Agradezco de antemano las respuestas positivas que me puedan ofrecer.
>
> Sin más. Les deseo muchos éxitos.

Re: Apt Error at Update

[Stephen Allen]

So, no one else getting these apt script errors on Testing?

Re: Servidor para receber sms

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA]

Le 25 septembre 2016 00:23:14 GMT-03:00, Rodrigo Cunha 
 a écrit :
>Olá srs. estou montando um projeto e gostaria de saber se existe algum
>servidor Linux que possa receber mensagens sms.

aptitude search sms gsm



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Re: libre office fail

[Floris]

Op Sun, 25 Sep 2016 03:22:23 +0200 schreef Ric Moore  
:


Desperate, I tried to use command line to open an odt file. I got this  
running sid:


ric@iam:~/Documents/Dennis/pdf$ libreoffice  
National_Reentry_Resources.odt


(soffice:14215): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_size_request: assertion  
'width >= -1' failed

ric@iam:~/Documents/Dennis/pdf$

This is critical. :( Ric



remove libreoffice-gnome, libreoffice-gtk2 and libreoffice-gtk3
LibreOffice will fallback on the default java style

Floris

A quien le pueda interesar

[Lesly Cintra]

Hola, soy amante de la filosofía del compartir y por eso me he enamorado del 
maravilloso mundo del software libre, pero tengo un problema y es que no tengo 
acceso a internet desde el hogar y el acceso que tengo es desde lugares 
públicos como parques, aparte de que es un acceso muy muy lento y costoso. El 
problema real radica en que hay ocasiones en la que puedo darme el lujos de 
gastar unos pesitos para instalar tres o cuatro paquetes (con todo y 
dependencias) pero la mayoría de las veces no lo puedo hacer, yo y varios de 
mis amigos nos hemos enamorado de Debian y lo consideramos la mejor distro 
GNU/Linux por lo que para solucionar nuestros problemas decidimos crear una 
distro basada en Debian pero por mucho que hemos buscado no hemos encontrado 
documentación sobre el tema, solo hemos encontrado tutoriales de como 
personalizarla con herramientas como remastersys y otras, pero no como crear 
una distro real basada en Debian.
Nuestro objetivo es crear nuestra propia distro con nuestro propio repositorio 
de paquetes e irlo modificando para proporcionarle a los cubanos un sistema 
GNU/Linux con calidad (ya que va a estar basado en Debian) y sin limitaciones.
Agradezco de antemano las respuestas positivas que me puedan ofrecer.

Sin más. Les deseo muchos éxitos.