Re: User-oriented backup tools

[solitone]

On Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:37:40 CET Francesco Porro wrote:
> Which backup tool do you use?

I'm happy with backup2l [1]. It's very simple to configure, supports 
incremental backups, and it's fully automated. Here you can find a short guide 
[2]. 

I also like it because it is simple to extract specific files you may need from 
a backup. For instance I had to recover just my old thunderbolt emails, and it 
was quick and easy with backup2l.

[1] http://backup2l.sourceforge.net
[2] http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/backup2l.htm

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Tony Baldwin]

On 02/15/2017 03:38 PM, David Wright wrote:

On Wed 15 Feb 2017 at 12:50:33 (-0500), Anthony Baldwin wrote:



On 02/15/2017 11:05 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Wed 15 Feb 2017 at 10:49:06 (-0500), Tony Baldwin wrote:


I get random ID crashes, pretty well daily, but no consistently
identifiable cause. It really seems to be occurring very randomly,
I'll just be reading messages when suddenly *pop* it dies like a
soap bubble on a Christmas tree, no error msg, no prior indication
of instability, etc.; Just sudden, random crashing. It generally
comes right back up without issue and functions normally afterwards.
Thankfully, it rarely does it while I'm composing a message, that
would REALLY annoy me, and I would likely have already appeared here
seeking a solution to the problem, but since, so far, it hasn't
caused me any real loss, but rather just minor annoyance, I haven't
mentioned it, until now.


If you compose in an editor like emacs, it auto-saves periodically.
With your email tmpdir set to /var/tmp, these will even survive reboots.



But why would I install an entire VM+OS like E.M.A.C.S. when Icedove
has its own message composer/editor ?
if I wanted to use a different editor I'd be using MUTT with VIM. ;-)


Indeed. But you wrote "Thankfully, it rarely does it while I'm
composing a message". So someone else (we're on a list) might
appreciate the advice. I was under the impression that changing the
composition editor in ID was not immediately obvious. Perhaps I'm
out of date here.


No. you're right. It is not obvious, in fact, I didn't know it could be 
done at all, tbh.

Sorry my attempt at humour was even less obvious, apparently.

Tony

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Re: User-oriented backup tools

[Martin McCormick]

I use rsnapshot. I have 4 128 GB thumb drives that are
combined in to 1 large drive with the idea of backing up the
system I do most tinkering on on a daily basis for a year and
then I swap out the drives with other drives so that the year
just completed gets stored and the new drives start a new year.
At the end of the new year, I will store those drives, erase last
year's backups and re-use those older drives for the upcoming new year.

Your mileage will vary if you must backup mysql or other
data bases so you need to make sure the backup tool you want to
use safely does those backups.

Martin

IPv6 connection problem with https://www.flickr.com/

[Vincent Lefevre]

On my Debian/unstable machine at home, IPv6 connection to
https://www.flickr.com/ freezes most of the time:

zira:~> wget -d https://www.flickr.com/
DEBUG output created by Wget 1.19.1 on linux-gnu.

Reading HSTS entries from /home/vinc17/.wget-hsts
URI encoding = ‘UTF-8’
Converted file name 'index.html' (UTF-8) -> 'index.html' (UTF-8)
--2017-02-16 02:46:17--  https://www.flickr.com/
Certificates loaded: 173
Resolving www.flickr.com (www.flickr.com)... 2a00:1288:7c:800::4001, 
2a00:1288:7c:800::4000, 87.248.114.11, ...
Caching www.flickr.com => 2a00:1288:7c:800::4001 2a00:1288:7c:800::4000 
87.248.114.11 87.248.114.12
Connecting to www.flickr.com (www.flickr.com)|2a00:1288:7c:800::4001|:443... 
connected.
Created socket 3.
Releasing 0x55fbccaf8f70 (new refcount 1).

Then, I no longer get anything.

I don't have any problem with:
  * IPv4 to https://www.flickr.com/ from this machine
(using wget -4 ...).
  * IPv6 to http://www.flickr.com/ from this machine (well, the
redirection to https is done, then it blocks for https as above).
  * IPv6 to https://www.debian.org/ or https://www.google.com/ from
this machine.
  * IPv6 to https://www.flickr.com/ from an Ubuntu machine on a
different network (even when the used IP is the same, i.e.
2a00:1288:7c:800::4001).

Note: I've used wget here for the information it gives, but from
this machine to https://www.flickr.com/ the connection also freezes
with Firefox and Lynx.

Any idea on where the problem could come from?

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Re: Stretch als desktop

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Paul van der Vlis:
>  Icedove die regelmatig crashed onder Debian stable en oldstable.
> Nu ben ik aan het zoeken naar (nood)oplossingen en workarrounds. Een
> van die noodoplossingen zou kunnen zijn snel upgraden naar Stretch.

Ik heb de Nederlandstalige Thunderbird gedownload van hier:
www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/all/  en in Stretch gezet.
Geen installatie nodig; alleen ./thunderbird/thunderbird uitvoeren.
Zo te zien werkt het goed. Maar ja, ik heb het geen week lang
uitgeprobeerd. Maar je zou deze kunnen proberen, in Jessie of in
Stretch.

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[D. R. Evans]

Paul van der Vlis wrote on 02/15/2017 01:24 PM:
> On 15-02-17 16:32, D. R. Evans wrote:
> 
>> That said, I had an icedove crash a few days ago, but it was the first time
>> for perhaps a month, whereas at one point it was happening several times per 
>> day.
> 
> Do you use Stretch?

No: jessie.

  Doc

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Re: User-oriented backup tools

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 15 February 2017 17:37:40 Francesco Porro wrote:

> Hi guys, It's the first time I'm posting here. I'm both a Fedora and
> Debian user.
>
> Which backup tool do you use?
> At this time I feel comfortable with rsync, which I use to sync my
> home to an external Usb drive. No automation, no scheduling for now. I
> just launch rsync from the command line and let it backup all the
> stuff when I need it.
>
> Now I'd like to move to more powerful utility. It should be reliable
> and very user-friendly. A friend on Irc suggested me borg [1], which
> also feature decuplication, encryption and seems easy enough to use.
>
> Otherwise I discovered a scripting hot-to to make some kind of
> snapshots via rsync (and hardlinking) [2], but I haven't tryed it out
> yet.
>
> So... What's your opinion about user-oriented backup tools? ^^
>
Very simple: amanda

> Thanks in advance.
>
> [1] https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
> [2] http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Mark

On 15/02/17 19:43, Mark Fletcher wrote:

>>> I am using Jessie, Icedove v. 45.6.0 at the moment, on AMD64;

>> It's a known bug in Jessie. My question is about Stretch.
>>
>> With regards,
>> Paul

> Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as 
> Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox?
> 
> I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right 
> now)

It looks like it's currently in Sid. Has anyone tried it?

https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names=thunderbird


Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Mark Fletcher]

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 09:18:37PM +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> On 15-02-17 16:49, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> > I am using Jessie, Icedove v. 45.6.0 at the moment, on AMD64;
> 
> It's a known bug in Jessie. My question is about Stretch.
> 
> With regards,
> Paul
> 

Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as 
Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox?

I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right 
now)

Mark

Re: User-oriented backup tools

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:37:40PM +0100, Francesco Porro wrote:
> At this time I feel comfortable with rsync, which I use to sync my home
> to an external Usb drive. No automation, no scheduling for now. I just
> launch rsync from the command line and let it backup all the stuff when
> I need it.

This is what I do, too.  Except I also rsync changes from my VPS, and
also make a second copy of parts of the data and burn that to a DVD+RW.

> Now I'd like to move to more powerful utility.

Why?  What do you want to do that your existing solution doesn't do?
Just swapping out a working solution for something more complex without
some compelling reason is not a good idea.

Re: Rie4wudu

[Mark Fletcher]

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:29:39PM +0800, mkprint4u wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

Someone just broadcast their password to the world...

User-oriented backup tools

[Francesco Porro]

Hi guys, It's the first time I'm posting here. I'm both a Fedora and
Debian user.

Which backup tool do you use?
At this time I feel comfortable with rsync, which I use to sync my home
to an external Usb drive. No automation, no scheduling for now. I just
launch rsync from the command line and let it backup all the stuff when
I need it.

Now I'd like to move to more powerful utility. It should be reliable and
very user-friendly. A friend on Irc suggested me borg [1], which also
feature decuplication, encryption and seems easy enough to use.

Otherwise I discovered a scripting hot-to to make some kind of snapshots
via rsync (and hardlinking) [2], but I haven't tryed it out yet.

So... What's your opinion about user-oriented backup tools? ^^

Thanks in advance.

[1] https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
[2] http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/

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[SOLVED] testing reportbug broken?

[songbird]

Sven Joachim wrote:
> songbird wrote:
>
>>   anyone else seeing this?
>>
>> $ reportbug
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 2234, in 
>> main()
>>   File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 1084, in main
>> if newui.initialize():
>>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 1778, 
>> in initialize
>> gi.require_version('Vte', '2.91')
>>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py", line 118, in 
>> require_version
>> raise ValueError('Namespace %s not available' % namespace)
>> ValueError: Namespace Vte not available
>
> This seems to be bug #854405[1], allegedly fixed in reportbug 7.1.5.
>
> Cheers,
>Sven
>
>
> 1. https://bugs.debian.org/854405


  thank you.  :)  i read through the bug reports for
reportbug and didn't see anything that looked like 
what i was hitting.


now with installed missing package reportbug crashes with:

  TypeError: Couldn't find foreign struct converter for 'cairo.Context'

  missing some other piece...


upgraded to unstable version of reportbug.  worked.

  thank you again,


  songbird

konqueror annoying with certificate messages

[Hans]

Hi folks,

I am running konqueror 4.14.24. Since a long time, konqueror is annoying me, 
with messages of "new" certificates, which I have to accept. However, these 
messages appear everytime again and again. 

Is there a way, just to accept the new certificates automatically? I 
understand, that it is no good idea, but this is ok for me.

Or did I miss to install a package with certificates?

At the moment I changed to firefox. 

Thanks for your help.

Best

Hans

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[David Wright]

On Wed 15 Feb 2017 at 12:50:33 (-0500), Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/15/2017 11:05 AM, David Wright wrote:
> >On Wed 15 Feb 2017 at 10:49:06 (-0500), Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >
> >>I get random ID crashes, pretty well daily, but no consistently
> >>identifiable cause. It really seems to be occurring very randomly,
> >>I'll just be reading messages when suddenly *pop* it dies like a
> >>soap bubble on a Christmas tree, no error msg, no prior indication
> >>of instability, etc.; Just sudden, random crashing. It generally
> >>comes right back up without issue and functions normally afterwards.
> >>Thankfully, it rarely does it while I'm composing a message, that
> >>would REALLY annoy me, and I would likely have already appeared here
> >>seeking a solution to the problem, but since, so far, it hasn't
> >>caused me any real loss, but rather just minor annoyance, I haven't
> >>mentioned it, until now.
> >
> >If you compose in an editor like emacs, it auto-saves periodically.
> >With your email tmpdir set to /var/tmp, these will even survive reboots.
> >
> 
> But why would I install an entire VM+OS like E.M.A.C.S. when Icedove
> has its own message composer/editor ?
> if I wanted to use a different editor I'd be using MUTT with VIM. ;-)

Indeed. But you wrote "Thankfully, it rarely does it while I'm
composing a message". So someone else (we're on a list) might
appreciate the advice. I was under the impression that changing the
composition editor in ID was not immediately obvious. Perhaps I'm
out of date here.

Cheers,
David.

Re: testing reportbug broken?

[Michael Lange]

Hi,

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:05:47 -0500
songbird  wrote:

>   anyone else seeing this?
> 
> $ reportbug
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 2234, in 
> main()
>   File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 1084, in main
> if newui.initialize():
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line
> 1778, in initialize gi.require_version('Vte', '2.91')
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py", line 118, in
> require_version raise ValueError('Namespace %s not available' %
> namespace) ValueError: Namespace Vte not available

this looks like a Python-vte module is missing.
There is a package python-vte, but only for Python2, whereas the error
says Python3 is in use.

Regards

Michael


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Re: testing reportbug broken?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2017-02-15 15:05 -0500, songbird wrote:

>   anyone else seeing this?
>
> $ reportbug
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 2234, in 
> main()
>   File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 1084, in main
> if newui.initialize():
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 1778, 
> in initialize
> gi.require_version('Vte', '2.91')
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py", line 118, in 
> require_version
> raise ValueError('Namespace %s not available' % namespace)
> ValueError: Namespace Vte not available

This seems to be bug #854405[1], allegedly fixed in reportbug 7.1.5.

Cheers,
   Sven


1. https://bugs.debian.org/854405

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Paul van der Vlis]

On 15-02-17 16:05, Boyan Penkov wrote:
> 
> On 02/15/2017 10:03 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> 
>> I do not have problems with Iceowl, but I don't use Google. What I use
>> is my own caldav server (sogo).
>>
>> Do you use Iceowl or Lightning?
>> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/iceowl-extension
>>
>> If you turn off the plugins, do you still have crashes?
> 
> Unfortunately, I do, yes...

Do you use Stretch (=Debian testing) ?

With regards,
Paul





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Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Paul van der Vlis]

On 15-02-17 16:32, D. R. Evans wrote:

> That said, I had an icedove crash a few days ago, but it was the first time
> for perhaps a month, whereas at one point it was happening several times per 
> day.

Do you use Stretch?

With regards,
Paul



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Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Paul van der Vlis]

On 15-02-17 16:49, Tony Baldwin wrote:

> I am using Jessie, Icedove v. 45.6.0 at the moment, on AMD64;

It's a known bug in Jessie. My question is about Stretch.

With regards,
Paul




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testing reportbug broken?

[songbird]

  anyone else seeing this?

$ reportbug
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 2234, in 
main()
  File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 1084, in main
if newui.initialize():
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 1778, in 
initialize
gi.require_version('Vte', '2.91')
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py", line 118, in 
require_version
raise ValueError('Namespace %s not available' % namespace)
ValueError: Namespace Vte not available


  songbird

Re: Stretch als desktop

[Paul van der Vlis]

On 15-02-17 18:20, Rob van der Putten wrote:

> Ik gebruik het vn voor news. Crashed soms. Een paar keer per jaar ofzo.

Dat het na een update crashed, is vrij normaal. Dan staat er een andere
versie in het geheugen dan op de schijf. Als je dan iets speciaals doet
wat van schijf moet komen, dan doet hij rare dingen.

Eigenlijk zou Debian een melding moeten geven dat het programma herstart
moet worden na de update. Hetzelfde geldt voor Firefox.

> Heb je enige verschillen kunnen vinden tussen de machines die wel en die
> niet crashen?

Hmm, ik heb hier een paar machines waar ik het nog nooit heb zien
crashen. Dat zijn workstations met ECC geheugen e.d. Maar het lijkt me
dat dat er niets mee te maken kan hebben.

Groet,
Paul



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Re: Problems with installing Debian-Testing in a Virtualbox and on an old Toshiba-Laptop

[Patrick Bartek]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:24:28 +0100 Michael Siemmeister
 wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> This is the first time I am writing to a Debian mailing list.
> Therefore I don't really know whether or not this is the right place
> for this mail. Please tell me if not. I want to report the following
> problem.
> 
> Last week I tried to install Debian in a virtual-box. Currently I use
> Debian 8.7 for running the virtual-box program. I managed to install
> Debian stable without any problems. Then I cloned the virtual-box and
> tried an upgrade to Debian-testing. I think, it worked. After a while
> I shut down the virtual-machine. When trying to reboot, it did not
> start properly. I just got some messages like 'Created slice User
> Slice of Debian-gdm.', 'Starting User Manager ofr UID 117.', and
> finally 'Started Daily apt activities.'. Then the virtual display just
> starts blinking. Nothing else happens. After three minutes or so the
> display freezes.
> 
> Then I thought, okay, maybe the virtualbox program has got a bug. So,
> I downloaded the Debian-Testing-DVD-1 via jigdo-lite and copied it to
> a USB drive. I tried to install Debian-Testing on an old laptop, a
> Toshiba Satellite from 2009. Unfortunately I don' remember the exact
> model number. I had already installed Debian Stable without any
> problems on that laptop some months ago. The Debian-Testing installer
> worked fine and finally, it asked me to reboot the PC. After rebooting
> similar problems occured. There was a message about the graphics card
> and after 30 seconds the display started blinking. Nothing else
> happened.
> 
> As I have written above these errors only occured with Debian-Testing.
> Debian-Stable worked fine on Virtualbox and the Toshiba laptop. So, I
> don't think there are some hardware problems.
> 
> Now, the question remains, where to post this bug. I'd be glad at any
> help.

There's probably not any bug in VirtualBox.  You probably did something
that's causing your problems. Did you read the VirtualBox User Manual
first?. A wealth of information, and step-by-step instructions.

Also, did you install VirtualBox from the Debian repos?  My
suggestion is to download and install the appropriate version directly
from VirtualBox.  More current version.  The install will also create a
dedicated VirtualBox repo.  You'll still need to install a few other
things manually that VirtualBox uses, but are not a part of VirtualBox.
You still need to read the manual first.

B

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[GiaThnYgeia]

Anthony Baldwin:
> 
> 
> On 02/15/2017 11:05 AM, David Wright wrote:
>> On Wed 15 Feb 2017 at 10:49:06 (-0500), Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Thankfully, it rarely does it while I'm composing a message, that
>>> would REALLY annoy me, 
>>
>> If you compose in an editor like emacs, it auto-saves periodically.
>> With your email tmpdir set to /var/tmp, these will even survive reboots.
> 
> But why would I install an entire VM+OS like E.M.A.C.S. when Icedove has
> its own message composer/editor ?
> if I wanted to use a different editor I'd be using MUTT with VIM. ;-)

In 45.6.0 (at least) in preferences ==> composition ==> save every X
minutes ... you can make it really small for all the text you can type
in subminute time :)

Thinking of this it may be at times where autosave takes place that it
crashes so the question becomes does it crash when at rest or when you
are editing a message?  Does it crash while reaching a pop or an imap
server, does it crash while trying to reach a specific server, does it
crash while trying to reach mozilla for an update ..

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Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Anthony Baldwin]

On 02/15/2017 11:05 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Wed 15 Feb 2017 at 10:49:06 (-0500), Tony Baldwin wrote:


I get random ID crashes, pretty well daily, but no consistently
identifiable cause. It really seems to be occurring very randomly,
I'll just be reading messages when suddenly *pop* it dies like a
soap bubble on a Christmas tree, no error msg, no prior indication
of instability, etc.; Just sudden, random crashing. It generally
comes right back up without issue and functions normally afterwards.
Thankfully, it rarely does it while I'm composing a message, that
would REALLY annoy me, and I would likely have already appeared here
seeking a solution to the problem, but since, so far, it hasn't
caused me any real loss, but rather just minor annoyance, I haven't
mentioned it, until now.


If you compose in an editor like emacs, it auto-saves periodically.
With your email tmpdir set to /var/tmp, these will even survive reboots.



But why would I install an entire VM+OS like E.M.A.C.S. when Icedove has 
its own message composer/editor ?

if I wanted to use a different editor I'd be using MUTT with VIM. ;-)

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Re: Bumblebee sur Asus UX501VW/Debian Stretch

[maderios]

On 02/14/2017 06:19 PM, Pascal Ognibene wrote:

Bonjour à tous,

(Heureux) possesseur d'un Asus UX501VW sous Debian Stretch, je voudrais
exploiter la deuxième carte graphique Nvidia disponible, avec
Bumblebee+les drivers Nvidia propriétaires. J'ai déjà fait cette
opération sur un autre modèle de portable équipé 'optimus' sans
problème. Avec ce modèle, choux blanc.

Symptômes : je peux installer les paquets nvidia, compiler les modules
avec dkms, installer bumblebee, primus/optimus, etc.
Redémarrage du laptop : j'ai le login de gnome.
Je me logge : freeze du laptop. Pas de logs Xorg à analyser.

J'ai essayé tous les contournements trouvés sur le web (en particulier
sur les listes Arch linux) sans succès. Si quelqu'un a réussi à faire
fonctionner cette configuration sur Debian Stretch, je suis preneur de
toute information :-)

Bonsoir
Sur un pc bi-carte intel+nvidia, la carte intel est utilisée par défaut, 
la carte nvidia n'étant utilisée que pour la 3D et autres besoins 
'gourmands'.
Chez moi, sur Stretch et asus X751, exemple pour lancer nvidia-settings 
en utilisant la carte nvidia:

optirun -b none nvidia-settings -c :8
On peut utiliser également 'primusrun' ---> voir les doc en ligne.

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Re: Issues with power management

[solitone]

For reference, I resend Darac's advice on this thread, that is the correct 
one:

On Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:38:59 CET Darac Marjal wrote:
> The OP could also try the information in, for example:
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
> https://01.org/blogs/rzhang/2015/best-practice-debug-linux-suspend/hibernate
> -issues
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management/Suspend_and_hibernate
> #Troubleshooting

Re: Issues with power management

[solitone]

Sorry for the hijacking, I mistakenly replied to a message in this thread, it 
wasn't deliberate :^)

In the meanwhile I did open another thread, and if you will we can discuss 
there. For now, thanks for the links.

Cheers,
  Davide

Re: Issues with power management

[Darac Marjal]

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 05:22:12PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Wednesday 08 February 2017 10:50:52 solitone wrote:

What do you suggest to do to investigate this issue?


Not hijack another thread.


I'm not sure that I see how hijacking a thread prevents a laptop from 
suspending, but - certainly - avoiding it is SOMETHING to try.


The OP could also try the information in, for example:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
https://01.org/blogs/rzhang/2015/best-practice-debug-linux-suspend/hibernate-issues
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management/Suspend_and_hibernate#Troubleshooting






Lisi



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Re: script purge-old-kernels

[Darac Marjal]

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 03:30:55PM +, Wolfgang Truber wrote:

Hello,



why is under Debian no possibility to install the script purge-old-kernels or
the package bikeshed (this package includes the script purge-old-kernels).


There appears to be a program called "purge-old-kernels" in the byobu 
package. This may or may not be the program you're looking for.


byobu is described as a "text window manager, shell multiplexer, 
integrated DevOps environment", which may be more than you need for such 
a simple script.


However, there appear to be no outstanding bugs which prevent the 
installation of byobu.


As an alternative to installing all of byobu, you could fetch the 
"purge-old-kernels" script from the upstream repository: 
https://github.com/achernya/byobu/blob/master/usr/bin/purge-old-kernels


(Or have you tried that already? What error did you get?)

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Re: script purge-old-kernels

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:30:55 +
Wolfgang Truber  wrote:

Hello Wolfgang,

>why is under Debian no possibility to install the script
>purge-old-kernels or the package bikeshed (this package includes the
>script purge-old-kernels).

bikeshed seems to have been superseded by byobu.  That package contains
the purge-old-kernels script.

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Re: Issues with power management

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 08 February 2017 10:50:52 solitone wrote:
> What do you suggest to do to investigate this issue?

Not hijack another thread.

Lisi

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[David Wright]

On Wed 15 Feb 2017 at 10:49:06 (-0500), Tony Baldwin wrote:

> I get random ID crashes, pretty well daily, but no consistently
> identifiable cause. It really seems to be occurring very randomly,
> I'll just be reading messages when suddenly *pop* it dies like a
> soap bubble on a Christmas tree, no error msg, no prior indication
> of instability, etc.; Just sudden, random crashing. It generally
> comes right back up without issue and functions normally afterwards.
> Thankfully, it rarely does it while I'm composing a message, that
> would REALLY annoy me, and I would likely have already appeared here
> seeking a solution to the problem, but since, so far, it hasn't
> caused me any real loss, but rather just minor annoyance, I haven't
> mentioned it, until now.

If you compose in an editor like emacs, it auto-saves periodically.
With your email tmpdir set to /var/tmp, these will even survive reboots.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Tony.

On 15/02/17 12:50, Tony Baldwin wrote:

> Not sure if relevant, but I use ID with imap with a gmx.com account
> (Perhaps this last was obvious?)

I have three accounts configured in Icedove. Two accounts on my local
IMAP server, and other IMAP account on GMX. But I do not think it have
to do with the GMX account because I have experienced this issue also
when browsing my local emails or it has also died suddenly without any
kind of interaction (I think).

Kind regards,
Daniel




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script purge-old-kernels

[Wolfgang Truber]

Hello,

why is under Debian no possibility to install the script purge-old-kernels or 
the package bikeshed (this package includes the script purge-old-kernels).

Viele Grüße
Wolfgang


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Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Tony Baldwin]

On 02/15/2017 10:49 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:



On 02/15/2017 09:36 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

Hello,

Many peope (not all) have problems because Icedove crashes since an
update last year. Icedove on my laptop with Debian stable crashes random
about one time per week.

I have many customers with Debian stable and oldstable. Most of them
have problems with a crashing Icedove. I have also workstations here
where Icedove has never crashed.

What I want to ask, is what the latest situation is when using Stretch
(testing). I know a few people who are using Stretch and they all told
me they have no problems with a crashing Icedove.

What is your experience?

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis



I get random ID crashes, pretty well daily, but no consistently
identifiable cause. It really seems to be occurring very randomly, I'll
just be reading messages when suddenly *pop* it dies like a soap bubble
on a Christmas tree, no error msg, no prior indication of instability,
etc.; Just sudden, random crashing. It generally comes right back up
without issue and functions normally afterwards. Thankfully, it rarely
does it while I'm composing a message, that would REALLY annoy me, and I
would likely have already appeared here seeking a solution to the
problem, but since, so far, it hasn't caused me any real loss, but
rather just minor annoyance, I haven't mentioned it, until now.

I am using Jessie, Icedove v. 45.6.0 at the moment, on AMD64; My system
is otherwise generally stable (with the exception of occasional
unexplained hiccoughs in the sound system, for which I have sought help
on the list, and which I can resolve with a reboot...again, annoying,
but not a high priority issue).

Tony


Not sure if relevant, but I use ID with imap with a gmx.com account 
(Perhaps this last was obvious?)


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Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Tony Baldwin]

On 02/15/2017 09:36 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

Hello,

Many peope (not all) have problems because Icedove crashes since an
update last year. Icedove on my laptop with Debian stable crashes random
about one time per week.

I have many customers with Debian stable and oldstable. Most of them
have problems with a crashing Icedove. I have also workstations here
where Icedove has never crashed.

What I want to ask, is what the latest situation is when using Stretch
(testing). I know a few people who are using Stretch and they all told
me they have no problems with a crashing Icedove.

What is your experience?

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis



I get random ID crashes, pretty well daily, but no consistently 
identifiable cause. It really seems to be occurring very randomly, I'll 
just be reading messages when suddenly *pop* it dies like a soap bubble 
on a Christmas tree, no error msg, no prior indication of instability, 
etc.; Just sudden, random crashing. It generally comes right back up 
without issue and functions normally afterwards. Thankfully, it rarely 
does it while I'm composing a message, that would REALLY annoy me, and I 
would likely have already appeared here seeking a solution to the 
problem, but since, so far, it hasn't caused me any real loss, but 
rather just minor annoyance, I haven't mentioned it, until now.


I am using Jessie, Icedove v. 45.6.0 at the moment, on AMD64; My system 
is otherwise generally stable (with the exception of occasional 
unexplained hiccoughs in the sound system, for which I have sought help 
on the list, and which I can resolve with a reboot...again, annoying, 
but not a high priority issue).


Tony
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all tony, all the time

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[D. R. Evans]

Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/15/2017 08:07 AM:

> 
> That does not sound good. I have been experiencing this for a while in
> Jessie and I was hoping it would be fixed on Stretch :(
> 

Getting a bit off-topic, but I have been assuming that icedove must still be
broken in stretch, because surely a fix will be backported to jessie once
there is one -- after all, it was a post-release jessie "update" that broke
icedove, so at some point a similar update should fix it.

That said, I had an icedove crash a few days ago, but it was the first time
for perhaps a month, whereas at one point it was happening several times per 
day.

  Doc

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Re: Bumblebee sur Asus UX501VW/Debian Stretch

[Pascal Ognibene]

Le 15 février 2017 à 16:26,  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> Confronté à des problèmes d'installation sur un portable avec NVIDIA, mon
> réflexe est
> de supprimer la fonction "Optimus" dans le BIOS. Est-ce que sans la
> fonction cela
> change quelque chose ?
>
> Randy11
>

Bonjour,

Je n'ai pas la possibilité de désactiver Optimus dans le bios. Et puis, mon
but est justement d'utiliser la carte nvidia pour du calcul 3D, Cuda et
OpenCL, alors...
Sinon, le PC marche très bien sur la carte Intel intégrée.

Bonne journée,

Pascal





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>
> *De: *"Pascal Ognibene" 
> *À: *"debian" 
> *Envoyé: *Mardi 14 Février 2017 18:19:30
> *Objet: *Bumblebee sur Asus UX501VW/Debian Stretch
>
>
> Bonjour à tous,
>
> (Heureux) possesseur d'un Asus UX501VW sous Debian Stretch, je voudrais
> exploiter la deuxième carte graphique Nvidia disponible, avec Bumblebee+les
> drivers Nvidia propriétaires. J'ai déjà fait cette opération sur un autre
> modèle de portable équipé 'optimus' sans problème. Avec ce modèle, choux
> blanc.
>
> Symptômes : je peux installer les paquets nvidia, compiler les modules
> avec dkms, installer bumblebee, primus/optimus, etc.
> Redémarrage du laptop : j'ai le login de gnome.
> Je me logge : freeze du laptop. Pas de logs Xorg à analyser.
>
> J'ai essayé tous les contournements trouvés sur le web (en particulier sur
> les listes Arch linux) sans succès. Si quelqu'un a réussi à faire
> fonctionner cette configuration sur Debian Stretch, je suis preneur de
> toute information :-)
>
> Merci d'avance de votre aide,
>
> Pascal
>
>
>

Re: Bumblebee sur Asus UX501VW/Debian Stretch

[randy11]

Bonjour, 

Confronté à des problèmes d'installation sur un portable avec NVIDIA, mon 
réflexe est 
de supprimer la fonction "Optimus" dans le BIOS. Est-ce que sans la fonction 
cela 
change quelque chose ? 

Randy11 
- Mail original -

> De: "Pascal Ognibene" 
> À: "debian" 
> Envoyé: Mardi 14 Février 2017 18:19:30
> Objet: Bumblebee sur Asus UX501VW/Debian Stretch

> Bonjour à tous,

> (Heureux) possesseur d'un Asus UX501VW sous Debian Stretch, je
> voudrais exploiter la deuxième carte graphique Nvidia disponible,
> avec Bumblebee+les drivers Nvidia propriétaires. J'ai déjà fait
> cette opération sur un autre modèle de portable équipé 'optimus'
> sans problème. Avec ce modèle, choux blanc.

> Symptômes : je peux installer les paquets nvidia, compiler les
> modules avec dkms, installer bumblebee, primus/optimus, etc.
> Redémarrage du laptop : j'ai le login de gnome.
> Je me logge : freeze du laptop. Pas de logs Xorg à analyser.

> J'ai essayé tous les contournements trouvés sur le web (en
> particulier sur les listes Arch linux) sans succès. Si quelqu'un a
> réussi à faire fonctionner cette configuration sur Debian Stretch,
> je suis preneur de toute information :-)

> Merci d'avance de votre aide,

> Pascal

Re: (deb-cat) Petit repositori

[Narcis Garcia]

Ara faig servir Gitlab per elaborar l'estructura de fitxers,
dpkg-buildpackage per empaquetar, i freight per publicar en un repositori.

Però veig que ni se m'empaqueta ni publica com a codi font, és a dir,
que em sembla que hauria de ser possible que la gent utilitzi aquestes
dues línies al sources.list.*:

deb https://example.net wheezy main
deb-src https://example.net wheezy main

És quelcom important per un sistema Debian? Important per l'apadrinament
d'un projecte?
Què hi ha de l'ús de la comanda add-apt-repository ?


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> ATENCIÓ: El projecte actualitzat ara és a:
> https://github.com/freight-team/freight
> 
> He fet una prova i sembla anar de fàbula. A veure què tal amb
> l'acumulació de versions de paquets i arquitectures.
> 
> GRÀCIES!
> 
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> El 15/02/17 a les 14:42, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
>> M'estic mirant el Freight, que diu ajudar més encara que el Reprepro.
>> Dono per suposat que a tot arreu on parlen d'un «Debian archive» es
>> refereixen a un «repositori Debian» i no pas a què es tracti d'una cosa
>> a arxivar perquè estigui descatalogada, obsoleta o superada (?).
>>
>>
>>
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>>
> 

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Paul van der Vlis]

On 15-02-17 15:56, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> Ι've had it happen to me but very rarely and this is a wild shot that
> may relate the problem to a certain activity.  Are all of your icedove
> folders on the default home/. directory or do you store some folders in
> other local or network drives?  

No, everything is in a very normal homedirectory without shares over the
network.

See:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=828069
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827267

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis




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Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Daniel Bareiro]

On 15/02/17 11:36, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

> Hello,

Hi, Paul.

> Many peope (not all) have problems because Icedove crashes since an
> update last year. Icedove on my laptop with Debian stable crashes random
> about one time per week.
> 
> I have many customers with Debian stable and oldstable. Most of them
> have problems with a crashing Icedove. I have also workstations here
> where Icedove has never crashed.
> 
> What I want to ask, is what the latest situation is when using Stretch
> (testing). I know a few people who are using Stretch and they all told
> me they have no problems with a crashing Icedove.
> 
> What is your experience?

That does not sound good. I have been experiencing this for a while in
Jessie and I was hoping it would be fixed on Stretch :(

Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Boyan Penkov]

On 02/15/2017 10:03 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

> I do not have problems with Iceowl, but I don't use Google. What I use
> is my own caldav server (sogo).
>
> Do you use Iceowl or Lightning?
> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/iceowl-extension
>
> If you turn off the plugins, do you still have crashes?

Unfortunately, I do, yes...

Cheers!
>
> With regards,
> Paul van der Vlis
>
>

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Re: (deb-cat) Petit repositori

[Narcis Garcia]

ATENCIÓ: El projecte actualitzat ara és a:
https://github.com/freight-team/freight

He fet una prova i sembla anar de fàbula. A veure què tal amb
l'acumulació de versions de paquets i arquitectures.

GRÀCIES!

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> M'estic mirant el Freight, que diu ajudar més encara que el Reprepro.
> Dono per suposat que a tot arreu on parlen d'un «Debian archive» es
> refereixen a un «repositori Debian» i no pas a què es tracti d'una cosa
> a arxivar perquè estigui descatalogada, obsoleta o superada (?).
> 
> 
> 
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>> https://github.com/rcrowley/freight
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/jordifunollet
>>
> 

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[GiaThnYgeia]

Paul van der Vlis:
> Hello,
> 
> Many peope (not all) have problems because Icedove crashes since an
> update last year. Icedove on my laptop with Debian stable crashes random
> about one time per week.
> 
> I have many customers with Debian stable and oldstable. Most of them
> have problems with a crashing Icedove. I have also workstations here
> where Icedove has never crashed.
> 
> What I want to ask, is what the latest situation is when using Stretch
> (testing). I know a few people who are using Stretch and they all told
> me they have no problems with a crashing Icedove.
> 
> What is your experience?

Ι've had it happen to me but very rarely and this is a wild shot that
may relate the problem to a certain activity.  Are all of your icedove
folders on the default home/. directory or do you store some folders in
other local or network drives?  My theory revolves around the mounting
and unmounting volumes of storage or them not responding fast enough and
some threshold intolerance to disk response in icedove makes it crash.
Possibly for security reasons .. I don't know.  I am not confident of
this but as a different user unmounts and remounts the same volume where
icedove stores a mail folder at some point later icedove crashes.  The
occasion when it happens is too infrequent for me to research it as a
problem.  No signs of any data loss or corruption.
I assume there is some log file somewhere in the maze where it records
the crashing condition.
I hope this may help and not confuse the issue.

> With regards,
> Paul van der Vlis

Kat

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Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

[Paul van der Vlis]

Hello,

Many peope (not all) have problems because Icedove crashes since an
update last year. Icedove on my laptop with Debian stable crashes random
about one time per week.

I have many customers with Debian stable and oldstable. Most of them
have problems with a crashing Icedove. I have also workstations here
where Icedove has never crashed.

What I want to ask, is what the latest situation is when using Stretch
(testing). I know a few people who are using Stretch and they all told
me they have no problems with a crashing Icedove.

What is your experience?

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis

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Re: (deb-cat) Petit repositori

[Narcis Garcia]

M'estic mirant el Freight, que diu ajudar més encara que el Reprepro.
Dono per suposat que a tot arreu on parlen d'un «Debian archive» es
refereixen a un «repositori Debian» i no pas a què es tracti d'una cosa
a arxivar perquè estigui descatalogada, obsoleta o superada (?).



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> https://github.com/rcrowley/freight
> 
> --
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> http://www.linkedin.com/in/jordifunollet
> 

Re: Problems with installing Debian-Testing in a Virtualbox and on an old Toshiba-Laptop

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2017-02-15, Michael Siemmeister  wrote:
> Hello!
>
> This is the first time I am writing to a Debian mailing list.
> Therefore I don't really know whether or not this is the right place
> for this mail. Please tell me if not. I want to report the following
> problem.

Welcome to the list.

>
> Last week I tried to install Debian in a virtual-box. Currently I use
> Debian 8.7 for running the virtual-box program. I managed to install
> Debian stable without any problems. Then I cloned the virtual-box and
> tried an upgrade to Debian-testing. I think, it worked. After a while
> I shut down the virtual-machine. When trying to reboot, it did not
> start properly. I just got some messages like 'Created slice User
> Slice of Debian-gdm.', 'Starting User Manager ofr UID 117.', and
> finally 'Started Daily apt activities.'. Then the virtual display just
> starts blinking. Nothing else happens. After three minutes or so the
> display freezes.
>
> Then I thought, okay, maybe the virtualbox program has got a bug. So,
> I downloaded the Debian-Testing-DVD-1 via jigdo-lite and copied it to
> a USB drive. I tried to install Debian-Testing on an old laptop, a
> Toshiba Satellite from 2009. Unfortunately I don' remember the exact
> model number. I had already installed Debian Stable without any
> problems on that laptop some months ago. The Debian-Testing installer
> worked fine and finally, it asked me to reboot the PC. After rebooting
> similar problems occured. There was a message about the graphics card
> and after 30 seconds the display started blinking. Nothing else
> happened.
>
> As I have written above these errors only occured with Debian-Testing.
> Debian-Stable worked fine on Virtualbox and the Toshiba laptop. So, I
> don't think there are some hardware problems.
>
> Now, the question remains, where to post this bug. I'd be glad at any help.
>
> Best regards,
> Michael Siemmeister
>

Normally one would report a bug against the Debian package (virtualbox
in this case). But since that package is about to be removed from stable
the bug report is unlikely to receive much attention. I suggest you try
the upstream repository[1] instead. If you can reproduce the problem
there, then report it using upstream's bug tracker[2].

1: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
2: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Bugtracker

-- 

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Flickering screen on login/off shutdown

[GiaThnYgeia]

AMD64 Stretch LXDE
In recent weeks when logging in from start or from a screensaver login
or when hitting the shutdown/reboot .. I notice a brief (maybe 1/2 sec)
flickering of the screen.  This doesn't appear or happen with anything
else, I don't think it relates to monitor re-adjustment ... even going
from a VGA resolution shell or game full screen back to desktop seems
steady.  It only appears the very moment the click to login/out takes place.

The reason I am asking is not that it is bothering me much but whether
such a behavior is indicative of "something", like when the cat passes
by the door a second time in matrix.

katrin

Problems with installing Debian-Testing in a Virtualbox and on an old Toshiba-Laptop

[Michael Siemmeister]

Hello!

This is the first time I am writing to a Debian mailing list.
Therefore I don't really know whether or not this is the right place
for this mail. Please tell me if not. I want to report the following
problem.

Last week I tried to install Debian in a virtual-box. Currently I use
Debian 8.7 for running the virtual-box program. I managed to install
Debian stable without any problems. Then I cloned the virtual-box and
tried an upgrade to Debian-testing. I think, it worked. After a while
I shut down the virtual-machine. When trying to reboot, it did not
start properly. I just got some messages like 'Created slice User
Slice of Debian-gdm.', 'Starting User Manager ofr UID 117.', and
finally 'Started Daily apt activities.'. Then the virtual display just
starts blinking. Nothing else happens. After three minutes or so the
display freezes.

Then I thought, okay, maybe the virtualbox program has got a bug. So,
I downloaded the Debian-Testing-DVD-1 via jigdo-lite and copied it to
a USB drive. I tried to install Debian-Testing on an old laptop, a
Toshiba Satellite from 2009. Unfortunately I don' remember the exact
model number. I had already installed Debian Stable without any
problems on that laptop some months ago. The Debian-Testing installer
worked fine and finally, it asked me to reboot the PC. After rebooting
similar problems occured. There was a message about the graphics card
and after 30 seconds the display started blinking. Nothing else
happened.

As I have written above these errors only occured with Debian-Testing.
Debian-Stable worked fine on Virtualbox and the Toshiba laptop. So, I
don't think there are some hardware problems.

Now, the question remains, where to post this bug. I'd be glad at any help.

Best regards,
Michael Siemmeister

A new HOWTO page for the Adobe Flash Player plugin under chromium under Linux

[Stephen Powell]

It seems to me that there is much confusion out there for how to install the 
Adobe
Flash Player plugin for chromium for Linux.  Since fools rush in where angels 
fear
to tread, I have created a new web page on my web site for how to do this.
I'd appreciate any comments, positive and negative.  I'd like to make the page 
as
good as I can.  Here's the link:

   http://www.stevesdebianstuff.org/flash.htm

Let me know what you think.

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