Empreender de Casa com Sucesso é Possível

[Luciano Terra]

Title: Empreender de Casa  com Sucesso é Possível
Oi ‍, tudo bem, aqui é a Aninha!Gostaria de compartilhar com você uma oportunidade.Se você conhece uma ou mais mulheres que estejam com dificuldades para conseguir um trabalho, ou mesmo que estejam insatisfeitas com o trabalho que exercem atualmente, você poderá ajudar a partir de hoje.Essas mulheres podem empreender em negócios honestos, lícitos e de forma segura e, o que é melhor, a partir de sua própria casa, sem a necessidade de deslocamentos cansativos; isto é possível.Não se trata de pirâmides ou de outras atividades ilícitas que vemos por ai, mas sim de uma metodologia de trabalho séria, voltada para mulheres, para mães e futuras mamães, que desejam desenvolver uma atividade lucrativa de sua própria Casa e ter a oportunidade de estar perto do filho.Minha amiga Lary, da Lary Baby, trabalha a mais de 5 anos de sua casa e hoje fatura bem acima da média de mercado.O bom da história da Lary, é que além de ela ser uma super profissional, ela também adora compartilhar seus conhecimentos e, com esta finalidade, criou o Curso Mamãe Empreendedora.Neste Curso, que possui 9 módulos com aulas gravadas em ambiente seguro, que você poderá assistir no dia e horário que for mais conveniente, você aprenderá todos os segredos que fizeram da Lary Baby um sucesso nas vendas e poderá replicar a metodologia que ela desenvolveu para obter sucesso no seu negócio.Clique aqui para conhecer um pouco mais do Curso Mamãe Empreendedora 2.0E tem mais uma oportunidade bem legal, como a Lary acabou de lançar o seu novo site, ela estará realizando um sorteio de 3 prêmios no próximo dia 10/08 às 20h. Clique aqui e confira.Quer participar de sorteio de prêmios?Eu tive a oportunidade de conhecer a Lary pessoalmente e ela é uma figura impar, competente, engraçada, mas acima de tudo uma ótima pessoa, uma mulher batalhadora que serve de exemplo para todos nós. Se ainda não conhece, recomendo que conheça o trabalho dela, garanto que também vai virar fã.Grande beijo!Adoro ter você aqui comigo, mas caso não queira mais receber meus emails, basta clicar aqui para se descadastrar.

Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

[Richard Hector]

On 06/08/17 13:18, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> On Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:31:29 -04 Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 05/08/17 03:56, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>>> Thanks to all.  The problem seems to be solved with such a cable:
>>>  https://www.thomann.de/at/pro_snake_78219_yadapterkabel.htm
>> Except that it's hard to tell what size those connectors are. Unless
>> there's something in the description that I can't read that says they're
>> 3.5mm, they look to me more like 6.25mm. I'm not sure what it is - I
>> think 3.5mm plugs are usually more rounded on the end, while the larger
>> ones often have that point. Also, it looks like the case comes apart,
>> and I think the only ones I've seen with such skinny bodies are moulded
>> plastic. If that's 3.5mm, I think it would be very hard to assemble by
>> hand, which the body designs suggest.
>>
>> Richard
> 3.5mm and 2.5mm plugs can be soldered all right but

Yes - I was trying to suggest that the plugs in the picture, if it's a
3.5mm plug, look a bit small in the body to be user-assembled - yet they
clearly come apart. The ones I've soldered have bigger bodies relative
to the actual connector. The really thin ones tend to be moulded.

I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear ... it would help if the site
actually specified what they're selling :-)

Richard

Re: howto restart a service in postinst script (Stretch and newer)

[Richard Hector]

On 06/08/17 04:43, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Harald Dunkel  wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 11:56:07 +0900 Mark Fletcher  wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 12:30:25PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> 
 What is the right way to restart a service from the postinst
 script for Stretch and newer?
> 
>>> I may be misunderstanding your question but on a system that has 
>>> migrated to systemd, you can restart a service with: 
>>>
>>> systemctl restart 
> 
>> I think you missed the point. To run it from a postinst script we need
>> a universal(!) way to restart a service, regardless whether systemd or
>> sysvinit-core or whatever is installed.
> 
> invoke-rc.d does just that and is included in postinst by
> dh_installinit for both SysV-init *and* systemd.

I've only looked through it briefly, but it looks like it invokes the
initscript regardless of whether systemd is in use - systemd can run
init scripts, after all - and so it relies on an init script being
present. I guess that's ok if you're the packager, because you can
provide one.

Regardless, I'd tend to ask packaging questions on debian-mentors.

Richard

Re: cannot get node dns program to work externally

[Lck Ras]

On 08/06/2017 10:42 AM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a node.js based dns program on port 53 and have it working as
> localhost on debian 8.5 but I cannot seem to get it to work externally
> despite getting the firewall rules right having tested them with Bind9.

Check if it's listening on localhost. Make sure that the server is not
listening on 127.0.0.1 'ss -unl'. Otherwise, you need to do a bit of
forwarding magic, but listening on the proper interface is a cleaner
solution, I believe.

> I have mainly been using :-
> 
> https://github.com/tjfontaine/node-dns/blob/master/examples/forwarder.js

>From what I can see from the code you linked, 127.0.0.1 is hardcoded.
Make sure you change that.

Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

[Doug]

On 08/05/2017 08:11 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:

On Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:31:29 -04 Richard Hector wrote:

On 05/08/17 03:56, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Thanks to all.  The problem seems to be solved with such a cable:
  https://www.thomann.de/at/pro_snake_78219_yadapterkabel.htm

That's 1/4" ~ 6.35mm
Stereo on one end and 2 x mono on the other end
but both 6.35mm


Except that it's hard to tell what size those connectors are. Unless
there's something in the description that I can't read that says they're
3.5mm, they look to me more like 6.25mm. I'm not sure what it is - I
think 3.5mm plugs are usually more rounded on the end, while the larger
ones often have that point. Also, it looks like the case comes apart,
and I think the only ones I've seen with such skinny bodies are moulded
plastic. If that's 3.5mm, I think it would be very hard to assemble by
hand, which the body designs suggest.

Richard


I have put together a number of 3.5mm connectors, which you used to be 
able to
get in Radio Shack. I confess that they were not stereo. Also put 
together the
power connectors for 5V and 12V. It's a little hairy, and you need a 
soldering
iron with a fine tip, a good light, and probably magnifying 
lenses--which I have.


--doug

Re: Live recording

[Glenn English]

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Curt  wrote:

> My understanding is that a stereo microphone is comprised of two
> microphones in a single unit. That's pretty black and white.\

There was discussion of whether there is such a thing. And I
considered two mics in one device is kinda half way between one and
two. Grey :-)

> Why you would use such a device rather than recording with two discrete
> microphones in an X-Y, ORTF, or MS (et al) configuration (but I read
> there are single, MS recording units) I dunno.

I use my C-24 because of the mind boggling sound that comes out of it.
And I can pretty easily just hang it from the ceiling in the middle of
a concert hall and get an outstanding recording.

Should have said 'used' instead  of 'use'. I got out of the recording
business when digital audio came along, and became a computer geek --
computers are as much fun as tape recorders...

MS is trouble because of the transformer(s) used to decipher the
cardioid/bidirectional mic patterns.

Jeremy's post explains all this pretty well.

--
Glenn English

cannot get node dns program to work externally

[Aaron Gray]

Hi,

I have a node.js based dns program on port 53 and have it working as
localhost on debian 8.5 but I cannot seem to get it to work externally
despite getting the firewall rules right having tested them with Bind9.

-A INPUT -p udp --dport 53 --sport 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -p udp --sport 53 --dport 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -p udp --sport 53 --dport 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p udp --dport 53 --sport 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT

-A OUTPUT -p udp --sport 53 --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p udp --dport 53 --sport 53 -j ACCEPT


Also I have done :-

setcap cap_net_bind_service=+ep /usr/bin/nodejs

to allow node to work with ports less than 1024.

I have my node dns program working on port 53 UDP with dig from localhost
but Basically not externally on the local network and cannot work out why ?

I have mainly been using :-

https://github.com/tjfontaine/node-dns/blob/master/examples/forwarder.js

for testing.

Its probably something obvious hope someone can help !

-- 
Aaron Gray

Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language Researcher,
Information Theorist, and amateur computer scientist.

Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:31:29 -04 Richard Hector wrote:
> On 05/08/17 03:56, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > Thanks to all.  The problem seems to be solved with such a cable:
> >  https://www.thomann.de/at/pro_snake_78219_yadapterkabel.htm
> 
> Except that it's hard to tell what size those connectors are. Unless
> there's something in the description that I can't read that says they're
> 3.5mm, they look to me more like 6.25mm. I'm not sure what it is - I
> think 3.5mm plugs are usually more rounded on the end, while the larger
> ones often have that point. Also, it looks like the case comes apart,
> and I think the only ones I've seen with such skinny bodies are moulded
> plastic. If that's 3.5mm, I think it would be very hard to assemble by
> hand, which the body designs suggest.
> 
> Richard

here's a good write-up of phone connectors of all kind
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)

Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:31:29 -04 Richard Hector wrote:
> On 05/08/17 03:56, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > Thanks to all.  The problem seems to be solved with such a cable:
> >  https://www.thomann.de/at/pro_snake_78219_yadapterkabel.htm
> 
> Except that it's hard to tell what size those connectors are. Unless
> there's something in the description that I can't read that says they're
> 3.5mm, they look to me more like 6.25mm. I'm not sure what it is - I
> think 3.5mm plugs are usually more rounded on the end, while the larger
> ones often have that point. Also, it looks like the case comes apart,
> and I think the only ones I've seen with such skinny bodies are moulded
> plastic. If that's 3.5mm, I think it would be very hard to assemble by
> hand, which the body designs suggest.
> 
> Richard

3.5mm and 2.5mm plugs can be soldered all right but the problem mostly is to 
purchase the really fine cable with two inner conductors, both shielded.
Common "Stereo Shielded Cable" is commonly too fat and its use always results 
in ugly and unwieldy kludges.
Sometimes I resorted to reusing the cables of old earphone sets, which I had 
otherwise no use for anymore.

Cheers
Eike

Re: caja as administrator

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 8/5/17, Dominic Knight  wrote:
> I guess this is something I have done at this end but, although it
> works fine as a normal user (right click and open new instance), when
> trying to open any folder from Caja as administrator (right click on
> folder in Caja, select open as administrator) I get the message:
>
> "Please start Chromium as a normal user. If you need to run as root for
> development, re-run with the - no-sandbox flag."
>
> I wasn't aware of trying to run Chromium at all, it used to open a
> separate instance of Caja with su privileges. Anyone else or something
> I have done badly somewhere and forgotten about?
>
> Debian Testing(Buster)
> Mate 1.18.0
> Caja 1.18.3


Hi.. What I'm about to write is more about WHY this is happening. I've
not used Caja, but I *might* have at least some insight.. kinda sorta.
Does Caja open up in part by using a web browser to do whatever it
does?

I've just tried "apt-cache show caja" and got some insight again. It's
talking about file managers in the description. I remember WAYYY back
when I was using Knoppix that something would open file manager type
sessions in a web browser. "apt-cache search kde web browser" to
the rescue when it reminded me that the web browser was Konqueror.

*IF* Caja somehow interacts with a web browser, that's what is going
on, that's why you're seeing that message. I learned about that
message accidentally when I was logged in as root while having
problems debootstrap'ing one time.

Root is and always has been about get in, get the barest minimum admin
duties accomplished as needed, and get out. So our systems default to
where we are *not allowed* to use games.. and we are *not allowed*
to use browsers for casual browser without giving it an extra special
flag. That extra special flag means we're capable and that we're
consciously aware we are web browsing as root.

A quick search on the Net hints that's what that "--no-sandbox" flag
is about. That's not what I used to get my browser to work. I was
offered the "--user-data-dir=DIR" flag during my fails.

After struggling for a long time, I realized what a similar error
message was trying to tell me in my case... use the offered flag along
with the "chromium" command. When you do, you're acknowledging that
you're really desperate to use a web browser as root (when it's not
the safest, secure thing to do) so there are flags that remain as an
advanced avenue to do so.

How to get Caja to work, I don't know because I don't know that
package. Is there a preference menu where you can set it to point to
something else file manager'y comparable?

That's the only thing I can think to do... unless there's an advanced
way under "Preferences" to addend whichever chromium flag will work
under these circumstances.

Hope this helps someone... some day.. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:31:29 -04 Richard Hector wrote:
> On 05/08/17 03:56, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > Thanks to all.  The problem seems to be solved with such a cable:
> >  https://www.thomann.de/at/pro_snake_78219_yadapterkabel.htm
> 
That's 1/4" ~ 6.35mm
Stereo on one end and 2 x mono on the other end
but both 6.35mm

> Except that it's hard to tell what size those connectors are. Unless
> there's something in the description that I can't read that says they're
> 3.5mm, they look to me more like 6.25mm. I'm not sure what it is - I
> think 3.5mm plugs are usually more rounded on the end, while the larger
> ones often have that point. Also, it looks like the case comes apart,
> and I think the only ones I've seen with such skinny bodies are moulded
> plastic. If that's 3.5mm, I think it would be very hard to assemble by
> hand, which the body designs suggest.
> 
> Richard

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Jape Person]

On 08/05/2017 07:38 PM, Richard Hector wrote:

On 05/08/17 07:52, Jape Person wrote:

It's funny (in much the same way that hitting your thumb with a hammer
is funny) that the Brother support site does indeed list a later
firmware update than the one I installed when I first got the printer.
If one looks at the driver update history at the site, the version
number jumps from 1.07 to 1.09. I have 1.08.


Perhaps 1.08 was so buggy they decided to withdraw it altogether?

Richard




Yup! That's what I was inferring from their site and implying here. But 
they don't have to allow downloads of a bad firmware version to keep a 
record of its release (and it's "features" and flaws).


That sort of information can be pretty important to a customer. It could 
help me decide whether or not it makes sense to go ahead with an upgrade 
to 1.09. As it is, I don't have even a clue as to whether or not 1.09 is 
meant to fix the resolution misreporting issue -- or anything else that 
might be affecting me.


I only have experience applying one update to the printer. I had to buy 
a Windows computer to accomplish the update, and the update didn't 
provide any improvement whatsoever that I can see in the functionality 
of the printer. It may, in fact, have caused some of the weirdness I've 
seen. I only got it because the Brother site recommended the update to 
improve paper-handling (eliminate smudging and paper wrinkling). 
Paper-handling on this printer has, in my experience, always been excellent.


That doesn't exactly encourage me to proceed with another update. I'm 
spoiled by the changelogs I can see for every package in my Debian 
installations. Most of them are excellent. A few contain very little in 
the way of specific information, except for the fact that they always 
provide version numbers which I can use to find out what's changed from 
upstream.


Heh. I don't want to go through this silly process (mechanically / 
logistically difficult in my little condo) just to go to their site a 
few months from now to see the firmware version number in their update 
history jump from 1.07 to 1.10.


;-)

I'm waiting to see if there's any fallout from people going to 1.09.

caja as administrator

[Dominic Knight]

I guess this is something I have done at this end but, although it
works fine as a normal user (right click and open new instance), when
trying to open any folder from Caja as administrator (right click on
folder in Caja, select open as administrator) I get the message:

"Please start Chromium as a normal user. If you need to run as root for
development, re-run with the - no-sandbox flag."

I wasn't aware of trying to run Chromium at all, it used to open a
separate instance of Caja with su privileges. Anyone else or something
I have done badly somewhere and forgotten about?

Debian Testing(Buster)
Mate 1.18.0
Caja 1.18.3

TIA,

Apple Magic Mouse

[Leonardo S. S. da Rocha]

Alguém sabe como resolver o problema de pareamento do apple magic mouse com
o Debian 9 (buster)?

Encontrei uma documentação que fala do bluetooth-agent mas ele não instala
no debian quando instalo o Bluez.

Agradeço qualquer ajuda.

P.S.: O computador é um notebook dell inspiron 14 7000.

-- 
Atenciosamente,
(Best regards),


Leonardo Rocha
about.me/leonardo.rocha

Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

[Richard Hector]

On 05/08/17 03:56, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Thanks to all.  The problem seems to be solved with such a cable:
> 
>  https://www.thomann.de/at/pro_snake_78219_yadapterkabel.htm

Except that it's hard to tell what size those connectors are. Unless
there's something in the description that I can't read that says they're
3.5mm, they look to me more like 6.25mm. I'm not sure what it is - I
think 3.5mm plugs are usually more rounded on the end, while the larger
ones often have that point. Also, it looks like the case comes apart,
and I think the only ones I've seen with such skinny bodies are moulded
plastic. If that's 3.5mm, I think it would be very hard to assemble by
hand, which the body designs suggest.

Richard

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Richard Hector]

On 05/08/17 07:52, Jape Person wrote:
> It's funny (in much the same way that hitting your thumb with a hammer
> is funny) that the Brother support site does indeed list a later
> firmware update than the one I installed when I first got the printer.
> If one looks at the driver update history at the site, the version
> number jumps from 1.07 to 1.09. I have 1.08.

Perhaps 1.08 was so buggy they decided to withdraw it altogether?

Richard

Re: Java perspective missing in Eclipse 3.8.1-10

[rudu]

Le 05/08/2017 à 13:57, Joey Corleone a écrit :

The Eclipse Debian package is outdated and not maintained currently [0].
I recommend downloading the most recent version of Eclipse directly from
their website [1]. The installation is trivial and works out of the box.

[0] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681726
[1] https://www.eclipse.org/


Thank you Joey.
That's what I finally inferred.
Preferring to stick with debian packages, I'm in the process of 
transferring my code to the netbeans IDE.

Seems to be the best way to keep my development safe in the future.

Regards
Rudu

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Jape Person]

On 08/05/2017 03:12 PM, Brian wrote:

On Sat 05 Aug 2017 at 14:44:46 -0400, Jape Person wrote:


On 08/05/2017 02:28 PM, Brian wrote:

On Sat 05 Aug 2017 at 13:12:40 -0400, Jape Person wrote:


On 08/05/2017 12:44 PM, Curt wrote:


[A bit of snipping for poetical reasons].


Frankly I would be leery of going through the procedure without a lot of
wine for fear of bricking my device.


A lot of wine is almost always good.


You have forgotten the other two essential ingredients:

  A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread — and Thou


It's getting a little cheesy in here. I fear that someone will be along at
any moment to smack our hands with a ruler.


You have in mind that nonentity who wrote

   A Jug of Wine, a Chunk of Cheddar — and Thou

and who didn't understand scanning. Don't worry about it. Most people
here are fans of Edward FitzGerald.



I might have been thinking of my wife.

She's always asking if I want some cheese to go with my whine.

Bug in Brother HL4040 driver?

[Andrew W]

Can anyone help me determine the location of an annoying bug which seems 
to persist in the driver(s) for the Brother HL404CN laser printer 
please? It has existed since Wheezy and is still present in Stretch.


Printing from most apps (but interestingly not GIMP) will often fail 
with the printers firmware locking up and showing Error E1 on its 
display - the only way out of this is to turn the printer off and back on.


I've tried several of the drivers listed and all seem to have the same 
issue. Further more in Stretch the web interface for CUPS doesnt seem to 
work on localhost:631 and the Gnome system settings GUI for print queue 
management doesnt do anything. Its as if the buttons have no event 
handlers behind them to actually do anything!



Thanks

Re: Live recording

[David Christensen]

On 08/04/17 00:06, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

David Christensen  writes:

One more question that might explain the ring -- do the
microphones have switches?


They don't.  The two ones that come with headsets have volume control
wheel, but I don't know if it is for the headsets only.


My first guess would be that the volume control is a stereo logarithmic 
potentiometer wired between the earpieces plug and the earpieces. 
Electronic test equipment might provide more clues.



On 08/04/17 00:06, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

David Christensen  writes:

What is the make and model of your netbook?


It's an Acer Aspire One, and the model should be ZG8.


When I go to the Acer support page:

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/drivers


"ZG8" is not a valid model number -- it should be something like "AO521".


If your netbook has a stereo microphone/ line-in connector, then you 
might be able to make stereo recordings by patching the left microphone 
to the tip (+) and sleeve (-) and the right microphone to the ring (+) 
and sleeve (-). (e.g. the negatives are commoned).




Do the headsets have one or two phone plugs?  What color or
colors? What size or sizes -- original 1/4 inch, miniature 3.5 mm,
or sub-miniature 2.5 mm?


They all have one green 3.5mm stereo plug.


So, one green stereo 3.5 mm miniature phone plug for the earpieces and 
one black stereo 3.5 mm miniature phone plug for the microphone?



As you know the make and model, perhaps you can find the specifications
and/or contact technical support to ask them what signals are connected 
to the tip, ring, and sleeve.



I have a Logitech headset that came with a Logitech webcam.  Neither
have an obvious model or part number on them.   The headset has:

- One black stereo 3.5 mm miniature phone plug with a headphone symbol

- One pink stereo 3.5 mm miniature phone plug with a microphone symbol.


Checking the DC resistances between the tip, ring, and sleeve of the 
microphone plug using my Fluke 77 DMM:


tip-ring0.3 Ohm
tip-sleeve  1080 Ohm
ring-sleeve 1079 Ohm

I expect that the headset microphone is monophonic, the signal common
is wired to the plug sleeve, and the signal hot is wired to the plug tip
and ring in parallel.


Checking the DC resistances of the earpieces plug:

tip-ring46.1 Ohm
tip-sleeve  23.8 Ohm
ring-sleeve 24.3 Ohm

using some jumper cables, and playing some music on my computer, I 
expect that the two earpieces are monophonic, the earpiece negative 
terminals are wired to the plug sleeve, the left earpiece positive 
terminal is wired to the plug tip, and the right earpiece positive 
terminal is wired to the plug ring.




What size are the phone plugs on the non-headset microphones?


Same: 3.5mm, stereo.  All of them.


Color?


David

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Jason.

On 25/07/17 21:54, Jason Wittlin-Cohen wrote:

> Sorry for the oversight.

No problem.

> I am actually running on Stretch, so I'm using
> Enigmail 1.9.7.  Perhaps someone can backport the version from Stretch
> to Jessie to resolve this issue.

It seems that it is already solved.

Thanks too, Frank, for your contribution. It seems that now it is
possible to install it without making the change in sources.list that
you had suggested.

Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: I am troubled after I saw you here Sarah

[Kelly Emerson]

I get these e-mails all the time that I do not send

On Saturday, August 5, 2017, 3:28:07 PM EDT, Sarah Chirikeni  
wrote:



Now, I am dismayed as I don’t know will you want to chat to me? 
http://bitly.com/2vAzp45

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Brian]

On Sat 05 Aug 2017 at 14:44:46 -0400, Jape Person wrote:

> On 08/05/2017 02:28 PM, Brian wrote:
> >On Sat 05 Aug 2017 at 13:12:40 -0400, Jape Person wrote:
> >
> >>On 08/05/2017 12:44 PM, Curt wrote:
> >
> >[A bit of snipping for poetical reasons].
> >
> >>>Frankly I would be leery of going through the procedure without a lot of
> >>>wine for fear of bricking my device.
> >>
> >>A lot of wine is almost always good.
> >
> >You have forgotten the other two essential ingredients:
> >
> >  A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread — and Thou
> >
> It's getting a little cheesy in here. I fear that someone will be along at
> any moment to smack our hands with a ruler.

You have in mind that nonentity who wrote

  A Jug of Wine, a Chunk of Cheddar — and Thou

and who didn't understand scanning. Don't worry about it. Most people
here are fans of Edward FitzGerald.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Problem with port forwards for LXC Masqueraded Bridge, page outdated?

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 05/08/2017 à 08:03, david...@freevolt.org a écrit :

On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, jakob notland wrote:


Hello dear Debian support


This is not the Debian support. This is a user mailing list.

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -d $external_ip -m conntrack 
--ctstate NEW -j DNAT --to-destination 10.3.0.2
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i lxc-nat-bridge -d $external_ip -m 
conntrack --ctstate NEW -j DNAT --to-destination 10.3.0.2
iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -d $external_ip -m conntrack --ctstate NEW 
-j DNAT --to-destination 10.3.0.2



All the commands returns "Bad argument `conntrack'",


Is the variable $external_ip defined?


And does it contain a proper value ?

By the way, "-m conntrack --ctstate NEW" is totally useless in NAT rules 
and can be removed. The "nat" chains see only packets in the state NEW, 
so no need to check.

RE: Des choses vraiment spectaculaires t'attendent Aurelie

[didier silvestre]

bonjour   on  de  connait





De : Aurelie Aziurey 
Envoyé : vendredi 4 août 2017 05:11
À : debian-user@lists.debian.org
Objet : Des choses vraiment spectaculaires t'attendent Aurelie



Rejoins-moi pour discuter
http://bitly.com/2vvN4JD

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Jape Person]

On 08/05/2017 02:28 PM, Brian wrote:

On Sat 05 Aug 2017 at 13:12:40 -0400, Jape Person wrote:


On 08/05/2017 12:44 PM, Curt wrote:


[A bit of snipping for poetical reasons].


Frankly I would be leery of going through the procedure without a lot of
wine for fear of bricking my device.


A lot of wine is almost always good.


You have forgotten the other two essential ingredients:

  A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread — and Thou

It's getting a little cheesy in here. I fear that someone will be along 
at any moment to smack our hands with a ruler.


 And no spam! I hate spam! 

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Brian]

On Sat 05 Aug 2017 at 13:12:40 -0400, Jape Person wrote:

> On 08/05/2017 12:44 PM, Curt wrote:

[A bit of snipping for poetical reasons].

> >Frankly I would be leery of going through the procedure without a lot of
> >wine for fear of bricking my device.
> 
> A lot of wine is almost always good.

You have forgotten the other two essential ingredients:

 A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread — and Thou

-- 
Brian.

Re: Live recording

[Nicolas George]

L'octidi 18 thermidor, an CCXXV, Rodolfo Medina a écrit :
> Please, could you explain that?  Suppose I have two usb audio cards, one for
> each microphone.  Will they be plugged together into the usb port of the PC?

You would need a hammer. Better plug them in two different USB ports.

But that may not work correctly. Two different audio controllers will
have clocks running at slightly different speed. It may not be much, but
it accumulates over time. IIRC (I did the test once) the difference
could be 10^-4. That may sound like not much, but after half an hour of
recording that makes a tenth of second difference, and that is way
beyond unacceptable for your use.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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Re: Live recording

[deloptes]

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Please, could you explain that?  Suppose I have two usb audio cards, one
> for each microphone.  Will they be plugged together into the usb port of
> the PC?

It might be also PCI card but you said you have a notebook.
You plug them to the pc and you get two separate mic inputs. Now use some
utility like jack (I haven't played with it for years) or something else to
assign the inputs to L/R line in or perhaps Audacity offers a mapping of
input to output as well.

Consider the data volume - perhaps USB 3 will give you better results.

regards

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Jape Person]

On 08/05/2017 12:44 PM, Curt wrote:

On 2017-08-05, Brian  wrote:

On Fri 04 Aug 2017 at 20:19:33 -0400, Jape Person wrote:


On 08/04/2017 06:39 PM, Brian wrote:

It's sad, isn't it? There must be enough Linux / Unix folks using brother
printers to make it worth Brother's trouble to provide a utility for this. I
guess most environments have either Windows or Mac available, but mine
didn't until I got the little NUC. $300 so I can do firmware upgrades.

Making lemonade, I'll probably try to play some old games on the little box.
There's always a silver lining.


I wonder whether wine would help (with installing the firmware, I mean).
  


I was wondering whether a native utility like flashrom could be used for
this. However when I looked at the Brother firmware executable to see
whether the firmware part could be extracted, I found that in fact the
exe file doesn't contain the firmware at all, but rather downloads the
latter from a Brother internet server somewhere in the cloud and then
installs into the printer.



I should have mentioned that. I was aware that the firmware updater 
connected to a server in order to grab and install the new firmware.


It's all a little patchier than I'd like. The unreliable installation 
instructions, the fact that a recommended firmware upgrade I got from 
Brother and installed is no longer even listed in the update history on 
their site, and the odd documented bug in the firmware that evidently 
provides bad information to CUPS is enough to make me want to avoid 
another firmware update altogether. If I do decide to update the 
firmware again, I'm going to be leery of workarounds. I'll just do it 
via Windows.



Frankly I would be leery of going through the procedure without a lot of
wine for fear of bricking my device.



A lot of wine is almost always good.

;-)

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Curt]

On 2017-08-05, Brian  wrote:
> On Fri 04 Aug 2017 at 20:19:33 -0400, Jape Person wrote:
>
>> On 08/04/2017 06:39 PM, Brian wrote:
>> 
>> It's sad, isn't it? There must be enough Linux / Unix folks using brother
>> printers to make it worth Brother's trouble to provide a utility for this. I
>> guess most environments have either Windows or Mac available, but mine
>> didn't until I got the little NUC. $300 so I can do firmware upgrades.
>> 
>> Making lemonade, I'll probably try to play some old games on the little box.
>> There's always a silver lining.
>
> I wonder whether wine would help (with installing the firmware, I mean).
>  

I was wondering whether a native utility like flashrom could be used for
this. However when I looked at the Brother firmware executable to see
whether the firmware part could be extracted, I found that in fact the
exe file doesn't contain the firmware at all, but rather downloads the
latter from a Brother internet server somewhere in the cloud and then
installs into the printer. 

Frankly I would be leery of going through the procedure without a lot of
wine for fear of bricking my device.

-- 
“Certitude is not the test of certainty.”
--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

Re: howto restart a service in postinst script (Stretch and newer)

[Sven Hartge]

Harald Dunkel  wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 11:56:07 +0900 Mark Fletcher  wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 12:30:25PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:

>>> What is the right way to restart a service from the postinst
>>> script for Stretch and newer?

>> I may be misunderstanding your question but on a system that has 
>> migrated to systemd, you can restart a service with: 
>> 
>> systemctl restart 

> I think you missed the point. To run it from a postinst script we need
> a universal(!) way to restart a service, regardless whether systemd or
> sysvinit-core or whatever is installed.

invoke-rc.d does just that and is included in postinst by
dh_installinit for both SysV-init *and* systemd.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Jape Person]

On 08/05/2017 08:52 AM, Brian wrote:

On Fri 04 Aug 2017 at 20:19:33 -0400, Jape Person wrote:


On 08/04/2017 06:39 PM, Brian wrote:

It's sad, isn't it? There must be enough Linux / Unix folks using brother
printers to make it worth Brother's trouble to provide a utility for this. I
guess most environments have either Windows or Mac available, but mine
didn't until I got the little NUC. $300 so I can do firmware upgrades.

Making lemonade, I'll probably try to play some old games on the little box.
There's always a silver lining.


I wonder whether wine would help (with installing the firmware, I mean).
  


I had that idea back before I purchased the little Windows system. A 
little alarm is flashing in the back of my mind which is telling me to 
not even try it.


I know that a publisher I worked for after my retirement from medicine 
fired an IT guy for doing a BIOS upgrade on a manager's laptop via WINE. 
The attempt bricked the laptop. In that case, of course, the fellow 
could have just burned a bootable BIOS update disc and done it the right 
way. But he insisted that the Windows executable BIOS updater should 
work through WINE. Since this was the *second* time he had done this, 
his boss showed him the door and how to use it.



So "CreateIPPPrinterQueues No" makes the ptinter invisible?


As it turned out, I didn't have to edit the config file. Turning off WiFi
Direct made the driverless printer invisible. Is it possible that Brother is
using "WiFi Direct" as a synonym for Bonjour?

I'm unschooled on this stuff, so forgive if the question is dumb!


Bonjour works on cabled and wireless networks, WiFi Direct is wireless
only. I also thought WiFi Direct did not use Bonjour. Mystifying.

You could try activating and de-activating Bonjour on the printer and
looking for the printer in the output of 'avahi-browse -art', You'll
need the avahi-utils package.



I'm saving this information and will hope to get a chance to experiment 
at some point. I'd like to know more about the features and capabilities 
of CUPS (and this printer), but I'm a little low on energy and time due 
to some health issues.


I was pretty tired when I experimented with the AirPrint and WiFi Direct 
settings. I'm wondering now if I might have failed to restart the 
printer after I changed the AirPrint setting. Then, later on, turning 
WiFi Direct off and restarting the printer might have properly instated 
the change in the AirPrint setting.


Thank you for the additional information.

Re: Sudden death of bluetooth headphone connectivity

[deloptes]

Mark Fletcher wrote:

> 
> 
> No sign of "remove", but I don't know if there would be or not...
> 
> So IF I am interpreting the above correctly, I ran apt autoremove but it
> didn't do anything, I did upgrade a shedload of packages and the next
> thing to do is to sift through that shedload looking for changes
> (somehow) that might have caused the problem. I'm not really sure how I
> am going to tell what changes a package upgrade made, unless the
> changelog happens to mention something useful, but hopefully something
> will turn up... I'll start with packages that look pulseaudio or
> bluetooth-related, and go from there...
> 
> Mark

Can you try bluetoothctl and see if it connects properly.
you can also post the output of "info "

regards

Re: cual es la mejor de debian

[JavierDebian]

El 04/08/17 a las 21:48, Alejandro García escribió:
El 4 de agosto de 2017, 18:23, Oscar Martinez > escribió:


buenas compañeros dbieron, quiero utilizar debian como sistma
operativo de la institucion donde trabajo, pero quiero estar seguro
del paso a paso para editarlo quien me puede ayudar

Ente todo un cordial saludo.

  Te aconsejo lo siguiente:

  1.- Observar la infraestructura tecnológica de la institución 
donde laboras.
  2.- Detallar si el hardware (impresoras, pc, servers, scanners, 
entre otros) conectados a la red de la institución (si existe una red) 
tienen compatibilidad con GNU/Linux.
  3.- Detallar los pasos a seguir para la migración (incluyendo el 
adiestramiento del personal).
  4.- Evitar entorpecer el correcto funcionamiento de la institución 
durante el proceso migración.

  5.- Migrar progresiva o totalmente en el menor tiempo posible.

  Si quieres instalar una versión modificada puedes buscar 
información detallada de como crear un live cd o usb de debian lo que 
debes buscar es: live-tools live-build live-config.


  En mi en la siguiente entrada de mi blog puedes leer un poco al 
respecto:

http://gnu-linux-xx.blogspot.com/2013/06/creando-un-live-usbdvd-con-debian-70.html

  Pero en lo personal para que pierdas menos tiempo puedes hacer 
clonaciones y con un sh cambias las configuraciones de cada pc en la red.


  Si vas a realizar una migración mejor adaptada es mejor que 
instales el debian directamente en cada equipo y preparas un sh que te 
haga gran parte del proceso de configuración.


  Aunque en la lista hay personas que te pueden dar mejores 
explicaciones que yo, o buscar blog o foros para documentarte.


  Espero que te sea de ayuda.




Yo añadiría y modificaría alguna de las preguntas:

¿Cuál es el objetivo de tu institución: comercial con accesos a 
internet, una red cerrada?


¿Qué equipos componen tu red interna: impresoras y computadoras, 
antigüedad de las mismas, conexión directa de las impresoras a la red?


¿Cuantos y cuáles paquetes de programas privativos (bajo Windows) usan 
que no puedan reemplazar: Photoshop o algún programa diseñado a medida?


¿Sólo migrarás el control de tu red, o también los terminales de los 
usuarios?


¿Cuán dispuestos están los usuarios a migrar a un entorno de terminales 
bajo *nix? (Usuarios "pesados", o sea, los jefes).


¿Estás dispuesto a quemarte un poco las pestañas aprendiendo a hacer 
todo por vos mismo, o preferís una distribución  de Debian modificada 
para tareas específicas, como ser Untangle?


JAP

Fwd: Ik heb problemen nadat ik jou hier zag Franzi

[Haenen Marc]

> Begin doorgestuurd bericht:
> 
> Van: "Franzi Adubisi" 
> Onderwerp: Ik heb problemen nadat ik jou hier zag Franzi
> Datum: 5 augustus 2017 16:51:50 CEST
> Aan: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Opnieuw-verstuurd-door: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> 
> 
> Nu, ben ik verbijsterd want ik weet niet of je wilt chatten met me? 
> http://bit.ly/2ub3zXT

Re: Jag är bekymrad av att ha träffat dig här Hilda

[steven]

Jag är också bekymrad därför din kontakt är inte personlig, utan det är att 
skapa mer medlemmar.

Verkar inget ha med känslor att göra utan ren affärsbissniss



-Ursprungligt meddelande- 
From: Hilda Karpinskas

Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 4:42 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Jag är bekymrad av att ha träffat dig här Hilda



Nu är jag förfärad av att inte veta om du vill chatta med mig
http://bitly.com/2vzj9jI 

Parametros con espacios en blanco para un script

[Jose Maria Galeano]

Se que esto es viejo, pero tenía el mismo problema entre 2 archivos scripts en 
una llamada
para pasar una cadena con blanco, y gracias a tu ejemplo empecé a probar en una 
soloscript, al final encontré esta solucién, divide y triunfarás...
a='Lista'
b=' Debian'
directorio=$a$b 
echo "mi  variable $directorio" 
  ls "$directorio" 

SaludosJose Galeano, Bs As Arg,

Re: Network config

[tomas]

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On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 10:37:42AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 05 August 2017 04:13:24 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 12:11:28AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 10:14:20AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > [chattr]
> >
> > > Another command that could be add to /e/n/i :)
> >
> > you nasty ;-)
> >
> > cheers
> > -- t
> 
> Why do you say that Tomas?

Mind the smilie. Zenaan's post has also one.

This chattr thing is a good way to get out of trouble in a pinch
("who the %&@$!# is overvriting my /etc/ponies.d/foo file?"). It
might even help finding out the root cause (once you find it,
you'll also discover the small print in the man page, which was
stating clearly what's up.

Zenaan idea of perpetuating this (useful but ugly) hack in e/n/i
seemed... well, nasty. But funny :-)

> I've been using it precisely because the early 
> versions of network mangler could not be removed without emasculating 
> the whole system, AND it couldn't find a dhcpd server with both hands 
> even if it was nailed to its ass. So it would tear down a working 
> network config and leave you stuck.
> 
> My address  = hostname based home network, several machines, Just 
> Works(TM).  So I sit here and wonder why an estimated 50% of the posts 
> here are network failures. But I got tired of advising how to make it 
> Just Work(TM) and being called an idiot for doing so. So I sit, read, 
> and chuckle.

That's OK, and works... for fixed networks. Networks I have control
over are like that. Each machine there has a static IP address. Only
laptops (which come and go, and are sometimes on other nets) get
an address via DHCP.

No idea why anyone would want to call you an idiot for that.

Cheers
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Re: Network config

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 05 August 2017 04:13:24 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 12:11:28AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 10:14:20AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [chattr]
>
> > Another command that could be add to /e/n/i :)
>
> you nasty ;-)
>
> cheers
> -- t

Why do you say that Tomas? I've been using it precisely because the early 
versions of network mangler could not be removed without emasculating 
the whole system, AND it couldn't find a dhcpd server with both hands 
even if it was nailed to its ass. So it would tear down a working 
network config and leave you stuck.

My address  = hostname based home network, several machines, Just 
Works(TM).  So I sit here and wonder why an estimated 50% of the posts 
here are network failures. But I got tired of advising how to make it 
Just Work(TM) and being called an idiot for doing so. So I sit, read, 
and chuckle.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW

[Brian]

On Fri 04 Aug 2017 at 20:19:33 -0400, Jape Person wrote:

> On 08/04/2017 06:39 PM, Brian wrote:
> 
> It's sad, isn't it? There must be enough Linux / Unix folks using brother
> printers to make it worth Brother's trouble to provide a utility for this. I
> guess most environments have either Windows or Mac available, but mine
> didn't until I got the little NUC. $300 so I can do firmware upgrades.
> 
> Making lemonade, I'll probably try to play some old games on the little box.
> There's always a silver lining.

I wonder whether wine would help (with installing the firmware, I mean).
 
> >So "CreateIPPPrinterQueues No" makes the ptinter invisible?
> 
> As it turned out, I didn't have to edit the config file. Turning off WiFi
> Direct made the driverless printer invisible. Is it possible that Brother is
> using "WiFi Direct" as a synonym for Bonjour?
> 
> I'm unschooled on this stuff, so forgive if the question is dumb!

Bonjour works on cabled and wireless networks, WiFi Direct is wireless
only. I also thought WiFi Direct did not use Bonjour. Mystifying.

You could try activating and de-activating Bonjour on the printer and
looking for the printer in the output of 'avahi-browse -art', You'll
need the avahi-utils package.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[RavenLX]

On 08/02/2017 10:38 AM, david...@freevolt.org wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Juan R. de Silva wrote:


Hi folks,

I installed (fresh install instead of an upgrade) Debian Stretch on my 
laptop.
The installation is full success without any problem except a little 
one -
'beep' does not produce a sound neither from CLI nor from a bash 
scripts. I had

Jessie installed on the same laptop before and it worked just fine.

I checked everything I possibly could: pcspkr module loaded, alsa does 
not have
any muted channels, tried to use it as a user and as a root. No clue 
why it does

not work any longer in Strech.

Any suggestions?


Possibly the following excerpt from https://github.com/johnath/beep/
applies. (TLDR: Skip to the end, read the last three quoted lines.)

| A note about ioctl
| --

[snip]


| What this means is that root can always make beep work (to the best
| of my knowledge!), and that any local user can make beep work, BUT a
| non-root remote user cannot use beep in it's natural state. 


Amazingly, I tried 'sudo beep' in Konsole and it worked! So this is not 
going to be a problem for my script because some items in the script use 
sudo anyway. I'll just do that with beep as well.

Disabled audio devices

[John Elliot V]

Hi there.

Suddenly my audio device isn't working. I didn't change anything (well,
not on purpose).

I'm running Debian stretch.

If I click System Settings -> Multimedia -> Audio and Video then I see
something like this:

 https://www.jj5.net/file/2017-08-05-220654/disabled-audio-devices.png

Can anyone suggest how I re-enable audio..?

Regards,
John Elliot V
-- 
E: j...@jj5.net
P: +61 4 3505 7839
W: https://www.jj5.net/
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Re: Java perspective missing in Eclipse 3.8.1-10

[Joey Corleone]

The Eclipse Debian package is outdated and not maintained currently [0].
I recommend downloading the most recent version of Eclipse directly from
their website [1]. The installation is trivial and works out of the box.

[0] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681726
[1] https://www.eclipse.org/

On 08/03/2017 07:04 PM, rudu wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> It was almost a year ago when I last used Eclipse to work on some Java
> projects and everything was going fine.
> Today, it freezed on its splash screen on every launch.
> I first removed ~/.eclipse to no avail.
> When I removed path/to/my/workspace/.metadata Eclipse did open a fresh
> window where I should have been able to re-create my Java project ...
> unless there was no way to initiate Java projects anymore.
> I purge eclipse and its dependencies :
> # apt-get autoremove eclipse* --purge
> 
> Then did a fresh install :
> $ dpkg -l eclipse* | grep ^ii
> ii  eclipse 3.8.1-10 all  Extensible Tool
> Platform and Java IDE
> ii  eclipse-jdt 3.8.1-10 all  Eclipse Java
> Development Tools (JDT)
> ii  eclipse-pde 3.8.1-10 amd64Eclipse Plug-in
> Development Environment (PDE)
> ii  eclipse-platform3.8.1-10 amd64Eclipse platform
> without development plug-ins
> ii  eclipse-platform-data   3.8.1-10 all  Eclipse platform
> without development plug-ins (data)
> ii  eclipse-rcp 3.8.1-10 amd64Eclipse Rich
> Client Platform (RCP)
> 
> Still, there is no way to generate a java project.
> Did I overlooked anything ?
> 
> I'am running debian testing.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any hint.
> 
> Rudu
> 

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW [off topic? I think.]

[Charlie S]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 08:58:39 + (UTC) Curt sent:

> On 2017-08-05, Charlie  wrote:
> >
> >  
> >> but I'm an old cat, and you know what they say about that
> >> combination!  
> >
> >  
> >> JP  
> >
> > No, what do they say about that combination
> >  
> 
> You snipped too enthusiastically, eliminating the other part of the
> combination.
> 
> Anyhow, curiosity killed it (the feline, that is).



After contemplation, my reply is:

Ahh, I see, thank you.

Charlie

Can we be friends

[Jessica Meir]

Mi nombre es Jessica U Meir, de Caribou, Maine Estados Unidos de América. Un 
oficial del astronauta del EJÉRCITO / NASA. Por favor, ¿podemos ser amigos?

Re: Live recording

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017, at 10:43, Curt wrote:

> My understanding is that a stereo microphone is comprised of two
> microphones in a single unit. That's pretty black and white.

Yes.  You also get units with more than 2 capsules in them.

 
> Why you would use such a device rather than recording with two discrete
> microphones in an X-Y, ORTF, or MS (et al) configuration (but I read
> there are single, MS recording units) I dunno.

One reason is that it's sometimes physically easier to mount (or suspend
from 
the ceiling) a single unit than a pair.  It's tricky if suspending mics
to get them 
to point in exactly the right direction; the weight of the mic cables
can drag the
thing away from the alignment you want.  You can't use a floor stand for
mics
if they have to be high above an audience (I've four floor stands that
each put 
mics up to 14 feet above the floor, but they're not usable where
audience seats 
are where the stands would have to be, and public safety precludes use
of such 
things if people can trip over them or walk into them.  They're
eminently useful 
for recording sessions in halls where the public are not present, or eg
for putting 
mics above sections of an orchestra or in front of a choir.)

Another reason is on some of these mics the directional sensitivity of
the two (or
more) capsules is controllable from the box of electronics at the other
end of the 
mic cables.  So you can decide for each mic if you want a tightly
focussed hyper-
cardioid response (if you like, a shotgun mic) or something slightly
directional, or 
figure of 8 (ie responsive to sound from both sides but not in
front/behind), or omni-
directional, or various points inbetween.   Since no-one can put their
ears where
the mic is (if it's eg 60 feet down from the ceiling and 20 feet above
the floor), the
ability to fine tune what the mic(s) are doing remotely saves an awful
lot of time.
Otherwise you'd have to haul the mics up to the ceiling, adjust them,
lower them 
again, listen for a while, and repeat.  (Or lower them to the floor then
raise them 
again ... needing several people to do that and walkie-talkies to
communicate).

These are the sorts of mics you often see high up in the space in a
concert hall 
auditorium.

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

Re: No sound in Firefox

[Curt]

On 2017-08-05, Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:
>>
>I have exactly the same problem, but for me installing the listed packages
>didn't solve it. I must then continue with v51.
>the sound works everywhere, but in firefox versions > v51.
>Any idea ?
>I can't understand why firefox is the only browser with this issue.

Did you try configuring the output device with pavucontrol (especially
if you have more than one sound card / HDMI)?

> best regards,


-- 
“Certitude is not the test of certainty.”
--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

Re: Créer un fichier grub.cfg correct

[Fabien R]

On 05/08/2017 11:17, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
> On Saturday 05 August 2017 11:13:35 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> 
>> Qu'appelles-tu un reset de GRUB ?
> 
> Effacement des précédentes configs pour repartir à zéro.
> 
Il te suffit de faire un ls /boot/vm* pour avoir la liste des entrées
générées par grub. Tu n'as alors qu'à supprimer celles qui ne
t'intéresse pas et faire un update-grub.

--
Fabien

Re: Créer un fichier grub.cfg correct

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 05/08/2017 à 11:17, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

On Saturday 05 August 2017 11:13:35 Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Le 05/08/2017 à 10:53, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

Y a t-il une commande pour faire un reset de grub ?



Qu'appelles-tu un reset de GRUB ?


Effacement des précédentes configs pour repartir à zéro.


Si tu veux parler du fichier grub.cfg, il est regénéré à partir de zéro 
à chaque invocation de update-grub.

Re: Live recording

[Curt]

On 2017-08-05, Glenn English  wrote:

> I'm not real sure what you guys are talking about, but the talk of
> stereo microphones leads into a mildly grey area.
>

My understanding is that a stereo microphone is comprised of two
microphones in a single unit. That's pretty black and white.

Why you would use such a device rather than recording with two discrete
microphones in an X-Y, ORTF, or MS (et al) configuration (but I read
there are single, MS recording units) I dunno.

Here are some edifying links:

http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/how_to_connect_your_equipment.html
http://www.shure.eu/support_download/educational_content/microphones-basics/stereo_microphone_techniques
http://www.uaudio.com/blog/mid-side-mic-recording/


-- 
“Certitude is not the test of certainty.”
--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

Re: No sound in Firefox

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2017, Marc Shapiro wrote:


On 03/20/2017 03:16 PM, songbird wrote:

Marc Shapiro wrote:

I recently upgraded my Firefox to v52 and immediately lost all sound in
Firefox.  Apparently Firefox now requires PulseAudio, which I had
previously uninstalled due to issues which I no longer remember.  I
tried installing PulseAudio, but still no sound in Firefox.  Also, no
sound anywhere else.  I uninstalled PulseAudio and sound came back
(except for Firefox).  I reverted Firefox to v51.0.1 and I have sound
everywhere.

I would like to reinstall PulseAudio so that I can upgrade Firefox, but
I can't get it to work.  Can anyone help me get sound working with
PulseAudio?

   make sure you have everything installed that you need.


   i had to go find a missing chunk and add it when
this happened to me:

(you may not need the development stuff, but ...)


$ dpkg -l | grep pulse

ii  gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:i386 1.10.4-1 
i386 GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
ii  libpulse-dev:i38610.0-1 
i386 PulseAudio client development headers and libraries
ii  libpulse-mainloop-glib0:i386 10.0-1 
i386 PulseAudio client libraries (glib support)
ii  libpulse0:i386   10.0-1 
i386 PulseAudio client libraries
ii  libpulsedsp:i386 10.0-1 
i386 PulseAudio OSS pre-load library
ii  pulseaudio   10.0-1 
i386 PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-utils 10.0-1 
i386 Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server



=

   hth,


   songbird

It's working, now.  Not sure what the problem was, but after purging and 
reinstalling PulseAudio I now have sound that works in the latest Firefox.  I 
still think that it would be better if this hard requirement did not exist, 
but at least it is working now.  I just hope that whatever the problem was 
(years back) that caused me to purge PulseAudio in the first place has been 
fixed and does not come back to bite me.


I think that I'll keep my copy of Firefox v51.0.1 around for a while, until I 
am sure that I don't need to revert to it.


Marc


  I have exactly the same problem, but for me installing the listed packages
  didn't solve it. I must then continue with v51.
  the sound works everywhere, but in firefox versions > v51.
  Any idea ?
  I can't understand why firefox is the only browser with this issue.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

Re: Créer un fichier grub.cfg correct

[andre_debian]

On Saturday 05 August 2017 11:13:35 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 05/08/2017 à 10:53, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> > Y a t-il une commande pour faire un reset de grub ?

> Qu'appelles-tu un reset de GRUB ?

Effacement des précédentes configs pour repartir à zéro.

Re: Hébergeur à conseiller (pro-debian ?)

[andre_debian]

On Saturday 05 August 2017 10:46:01 Fabien R wrote:
> On 04/08/2017 15:26, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
> > Chez certains hébergeurs, la console KVM ne fonctionne
> > que sur certains software, tel Online où ça marche pas
> > avec les OS 64 bits.

> Tu peux accéder au KVM via un navigateur web.
> Fabien

Oui, comme toute connexion KVM, on se connecte d'abord via un navigateur,
par login et mot de passe,
et on tombe sur une page de configuration matériels du serveur.

Mais chez Online, ensuite pour ouvrir une fenêtre console KVM,
(Java), impossible semble-t-il avec les OS Linux 64 bits.
(pas essayé avec Mac et Windows).

André

Re: Créer un fichier grub.cfg correct

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 05/08/2017 à 10:53, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :


Y a t-il une commande pour faire un reset de grub ?


Qu'appelles-tu un reset de GRUB ?

Re: pesky and persistent "driverless" Brother MFC-9340CDW [off topic? I think.]

[Curt]

On 2017-08-05, Charlie  wrote:
>
>
>> but I'm an old cat, and you know what they say about that combination!
>
>
>> JP
>
> No, what do they say about that combination
>

You snipped too enthusiastically, eliminating the other part of the
combination.

Anyhow, curiosity killed it (the feline, that is).

-- 
“Certitude is not the test of certainty.”
--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

Re: Créer un fichier grub.cfg correct

[andre_debian]

On Saturday 05 August 2017 09:01:22 oblivion.ikiub wrote:
> Il faudrait faire attention car les modifications apportées manuellement sur 
le fichier /boot/grub/grub.cfg sont écrasées par update-grub

On Saturday 05 August 2017 02:03:08 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Je pense qu'il faudrait aussi modifier le /boot/grub/grub.cfg des 
> sauvegardes car update-grub se base dessus pour récupérer des infos :

C'est possible que grub se base sur les autres /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Je vais les modifier sur les autres partitions Linux.

Y a t-il une commande pour faire un reset de grub ?

Merci, bon dimanche,

André

Re: Hébergeur à conseiller (pro-debian ?)

[Fabien R]

On 04/08/2017 15:26, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
> Chez certains hébergeurs, la console KVM ne fonctionne
> que sur certains software, tel Online où ça marche pas
> avec les OS 64 bits.
Tu peux accéder au KVM via un navigateur web.

--
Fabien

Re: Hébergeur à conseiller (pro-debian ?)

[Fabien R]

On 03/08/2017 20:51, Erwan David wrote:
> 
> Sinon dedibox (online) je viens de vérifier, ils prennent les virement
> ("Paiements SEPA")
Je confirme. Ca marche bien.Par contre, il faut être autonome
techniquement...

--
Fabien

Re: Network config

[tomas]

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> On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 10:14:20AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

[chattr]

> Another command that could be add to /e/n/i :)

you nasty ;-)

cheers
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Re: Live recording

[Rodolfo Medina]

deloptes  writes:

> You could however go the cheep way and play with multiple usb/pci audio
> cards, jack and free audio software


Please, could you explain that?  Suppose I have two usb audio cards, one for
each microphone.  Will they be plugged together into the usb port of the PC?

Thanks,

Rodolfo

Re: Créer un fichier grub.cfg correct

[oblivion.ikiub]

Il faudrait faire attention car les modifications apportées manuellement sur le 
fichier /boot/grub/grub.cfg sont écrasées par update-grub


Envoyé de mon Meizu PRO 6

 Message original 
Expéditeur : Pascal Hambourg 
Heure : sam. 8/5 02:03
À : debian-user-french 
 Objet : Re: Créer un fichier grub.cfg correct

>Le 04/08/2017 à 11:36, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
>> 
>> sdb1 et sdb2 contiennent la sauvegarde de sda2
>> et son bootable (leur /etc/fstab est adapté pour ça).
>> 
>> Je désire avoir un grub.cfg me permettant de booter
>> sur sda2, sdb1 et sdb2, avec les UUID corrects mis
>> automatiquement par "update-grub" et ce n'est pas le cas.
>
>Je pense qu'il faudrait aussi modifier le /boot/grub/grub.cfg des 
>sauvegardes car update-grub se base dessus pour récupérer des infos.
>