Re: le réseau pour les nuls ?

[david427]

Merci pour cette réponse détaillée

J'ai moins de temps que prévu pour faire des tests, mais je garde toutes ces 
réponses précieusement pour me lancer dès que possible !

David


De : Erwann Le Bras 
À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Sujet : Re: le réseau pour les nuls ?
Date : 19/02/2021 09:37:48 Europe/Paris

Le 02/02/2021 à 08:28, david...@mailo.com a écrit :

Bonjour,



Chez moi, j'ai :

- plusieurs ordinateurs fixes et portables en debian-10 (RJ45 et Wifi)

- une free-box crystal (uniquement internet, pas de boitier tv)

- une imprimante avec une carte réseau

- 1 lecteur de dvd avec une prise réseau au dos



Je suis novice (nul ?) en réseaux domestiques, mais j'aimerais que n'importe 
quel ordinateur puisse partager de fichiers avec les autres, imprimer sur 
l'imprimante réseau et qu'on puisse regarder des dvd à partir du 
lecteur-dvd-réseau.



Est-ce que vous auriez quelques liens qui pourraient m'aider (le réseau pas à 
pas pour les nuls ?), adaptés à debian ? (je trouve beaucoup d'infos pour 
windows, peu pour linux)



d'avance merci,

David



bonjour

Je suppose que tout est branché derrière la Box qui s'occupe de distribuer les 
adresses réseaux, et que chacun se voit, tant en filaire qu'en wifi.

pour partager un répertoire réseau entre Debian, le mieux est de définir lequel 
parmi les ordinateurs fixes ferait le serveur ; les autres seraient client. 
Discriminant : disponibilité (allumé quand on a besoin d'accéder et espace 
disque nécessaire. Configurer la box pour lui donner une IP fixe ou veiller à 
ce qu'elle est un nom
Ensuite installer NFS sur le serveur (nfs-kernel-server) et configurer le 
répertoire à exporter (/etc/exports).

Installer NFS client sur les autres (nfs-common) et configurer fstab 
(/etc/fstab) pour monter le répertoire distant au boot.

Ne pas négliger l'aspect sauvegarde : les données sont mises à disposition, pas 
synchronisées, elles restent sur le serveur. En cas de crash, ya plus rien.

L'imprimante a une interface réseau ; il suffit de la déclarer sur chacune des 
machine, sans la partager à son tour. Cups fait ça très bien. La déclarer en 
"IP Fixe".

Le lecteur DVD réseau sait partager le contenu d'un DVD? Le mien ne sait pas, 
il ne sait qu'aller chercher un contenu partagé par NDLA/UPNP. S'il le peut 
j'imagine que VLC saurait se débrouiller avec...



Pour IP fixe : au boot, par défaut, une machine demande une adresse IP à un 
serveur DHCP qui lui en attribue une pour un temps limité. Elle est donc 
susceptible de changer régulièrement, ce qui peut être gênant pour s'adresser 
une machine en particulier par son adresse. On peut donc soit passer par son 
nom, soit forcer le serveur DHCP à attribuer toujours la même adresse. C'est 
ainsi que pour le serveur web de Debian, on préfère s'adresser à 
"www.debian.org" plutôt qu'à 130.89.148.77.



N'hésite pas si besoin :)

amitiés,
-- 

Erwann

Re: Problems installing Debian

[Charles Curley]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:00:09 -0800
"M.R.P. zensky"  wrote:

> One problem that I am having is the Debian install menu asks for if I
> use a network card. I don’t I use home based wifi which I don’t see
> an option for this.

Debian considers wifi to be just another network card.

However, many wifi cards require a special proprietary program, called
firmware. These do not fit the Debian ideals, so they come separately.
If your wifi card requires proprietary firmware, you may have to copy
that onto your Debian computer manually.

Let us know what kind of wifi card you have. As root, run

lspci

Copy and paste the results into an email. Then we can help you further.

> The other problem is that it asks for a proxy for adding a
> repository.  I don’t know what to do with this either.

Ignore this.

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Does anybody read signatures any more?

https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: Problems installing Debian

[David Wright]

On Sat 20 Feb 2021 at 16:00:09 (-0800), M.R.P. zensky wrote:
>  Hello I have successfully installed ubuntu linux on my system but I want to 
> use Debian. I download the iso file from their home page. One problem that I 
> am having is the Debian install menu asks for if I use a network card. I 
> don’t I use home based wifi which I don’t see an option for this. The other 
> problem is that it asks for a proxy for adding a repository.  I don’t know 
> what to do with this either. How do you connect Debian to my home wifi?

If you downloaded a file with firmware included, like
firmware-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso, then the wifi will normally
be detected, and you can choose the wl… interface.

However, if the firmware version wasn't chosen, then you can
install Debian using the firmware from your ubuntu system. If you
 # dmesg | grep firmware
or
 $ sudo dmesg | grep firmware
on the ubuntu system, the firmware that was required will be listed
there. Copy the corresponding files from the /lib/firmware/… tree
onto a USB stick, preferably at top level, and plug the stick in
after you've started the Debian installation. The installer should
then find it at the appropriate time.

Ignore the proxy field: it's optional.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[David Wright]

On Sat 20 Feb 2021 at 13:12:39 (+), Curt wrote:
> On 2021-02-20, David Wright  wrote:
> >
> > For each MTA, you also have to ensure that their well-known recipes
> > for passing off work to other software (like MDAs) still work, else
> > Debian gets lumbered with supporting all the breakages that occur
> > (or, worse, loses reputation).
> 
> Did someone mention (I have neglected to read most of the thread) that
> Fedora has a switching mechanism?

Yes, in the OP. In case you missed it:

 "Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism
  to allow install multiple MTAs at the same time?

 "Fedora, Centos etc. allow users to install
  multiple MTAs at the same time.
  There's a "alternatives --config mta" command
  to allow to choose between alternative MTA."

>  Fedora 12 provides three MTAs: Sendmail, Postfix, and Exim. If all
>  three are installed, sendmail is the default MTA. The Mail Transport
>  Agent Switcher allows for the selection of either sendmail, postfix, or
>  exim as the default MTA for the system.
> 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/12/html/Deployment_Guide/s1-email-switchmail.html
> 
> The Mail Transport Agent Switcher. Almost sounds like a name invented by
> the marketing department. Anyway, I guess the MTAS is irrelevant because
> we're not concerned with Fedora here. But I suppose its existence proves
> its usefulness---or maybe the word is practicality---at least for
> Fedora users. 

I think Andrei answered it in the third post of the thread:

 "Installing and removing/purging packages has traditionally been very
  easy in Debian, such a mechanism would have limited benefits for
  significant added complexity."

I have no experience of Fedora installations myself.

Then, as frequently happens, the thread expanded into such options as
distributing different tasks, that one MTA normally does, amongst
several different MTAs. Even more complexity. No thanks. Configuring
just one is enough for me.

Cheers,
David.

Re: OT: Router behaviour

[David Wright]

On Sat 20 Feb 2021 at 12:36:24 (+), Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 08:23:39PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > I powered the router down again, plugged its WAN port into one of the 
> > > LAN ports of the ISP-supplied router, and brought it back up.
> > 
> > I you sure you plugged your ISP-router into the WAN port of your
> > (Buffalo) router and not into one of the LAN ports?
> > 
> > The behavior you describe would be easy to explain if it was plugged
> > into a LAN port (or if the WAN port was somehow bridged with the LAN
> > ports) since in that case you'd have basically a single network with
> > packets forwarded between the two routers, and two DHCP servers, making
> > it quite possible that a DHCP request received on your router ends up
> > being answered by the ISP router instead (since the request is
> > broadcasted to all connected machines).
> > 
> So thanks to everyone who replied to this thread, some really great 
> links and suggestions which I am following up. One thing for the record, 
> there is absolutely no possibility I connected the LAN port to LAN port 
> -- the LAN port on the ISP's router is plugged into the WAN port of the 
> old router. That has been checked, double checked and triple checked. 
> Whatever is causing it, it isn't that.

Sorry, causing what? A bad thing or a good thing? By now, perhaps you
have some preferences to report as well as just symptoms.

For example, if you want to run any device anywhere in the house with
minimal work, it helps but is not essential to set both WAPs to the
same SSID and password. Otherwise you have to configure two different
passwords on each movable device. That only affects connections to
wireless devices, of course, and is a separate issue from the IP.

The other decision is whether every device only needs to reach the
Internet, or whether each device must be able to connect to any other.
AIUI, the former will be the default if you just chain the routers:

~Ұ~  ~Ұ~
 ||
  Internet —cat5— WANport=router.1=LANports —cat5— WANport=router.2=LANports


but I think that you can make configuration changes in router.2 for the
latter. Otherwise, if a device connected to router.1 tried to connect
to a computer on the other router, router.2 would firewall it off as
an intrusion. I don't know what this change would be exactly.

My own router.2 (previously called "tertiary") has a broken WANport,
so I configure them thus:

~Ұ~   ~Ұ~
 | |
  Internet —cat5— WANport=router.1=LANports —cat5— LANports=router.2=LANports

Now, any device can broadcast and connect to any other device.
DHCP is set Off in router.2, so that it's all handled by router.1.
This configuration is simpler to set up, but you lose one LANport
on router.2 of course. Not an issue for me as I have four Powerline
devices that I can use for ad hoc needs.

> There is a switch on the back of the old router, with 2 settings, "AP" 
> and "WB". "AP" is obviously "Access Point". Not sure yet what "WB" 
> stands for but I suspect some of the links you guys supplied will help 
> me figure that out. The router is set to "AP" -- I _think_ it always has 
> been, but I might be misremembering that and the switch could easily 
> enough have been moved in the course of an international move or while 
> lying around on my spare bedroom floor for the best part of a year.

AIUI Wireless Bridge is for:

~Ұ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~Ұ~
 | |
  Internet —cat5— WANport=router.1=LANportsLANports=router.2=LANports

So with cat5 cable linking the two routers, I don't think we want WB.

> Anyway -- thanks very much all for the input supplied, I have plenty 
> reading to do! :)

Cheers,
David.

Re: debian installation is no longer working

[David]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 at 20:27, Semih Ozlem  wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I installed debian 10 on a 64 GB usb. It had been working fine. Last I 
> installed apache server, virtualbox, docker. After all this it worked fine 
> for a while, though at times slowly. Currently it is not working. It does not 
> finish booting, and it gets stuck at a certain point. The scrolling lines 
> indicate DEPEND problem and failing to start network manager and some other 
> issues, that I have not been able to write down.

On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 02:05, Semih Ozlem  wrote:

> When Debian is starting the following are the highlighted messages and or 
> places where booting pauses and at the very end pauses almost indefinitely 
> (or rather when I lost the patience for waiting for new messages to come up 
> and shut down the machine).

> I am writing everything down I was able to get out of the system below. I 
> have the following questions
> (i) is there any automatic system recovery tools worth trying
> (ii) is there a set of commands that could be executed when in rescue mode to 
> restore the system
> (iii) is it worth the time to try to rescue the system (or better of giving 
> up and reinstalling the system from scratch on the device)
> (iv) is there something to be learned from this series of errors so that if 
> not repeated, this problem can be avoided in the future from occuring again? 
> (i.e. a correct diagnosis of the reason for the problem)

> Can anyone help?

Hi

And I see that elsewhere you have mentioned btrfs.

When I hear about a Debian system that is running from a USB
flash memory stick, I do not expect high performance from that
system, due to the slow response of the USB flash memory
compared to an internal hard drive.

If you want to run a Debian system from a USB flash memory
stick, then I suggest to keep it as simple as possible and not
install software that requires a reasonably responsive internal
hard drive.

If you want to run btrfs, apache, virtualbox, docker, etc then I
suggest to work on a Debian system that is installed
on an internal hard drive.

Re: rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin

[David]

On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 04:50, Semih Ozlem  wrote:

> Anyone correct me if I am wrong,

Ok, while the details of most of what you wrote might be correct, it
is all based
on an error and is completely inappropriate advice for the original question.
So the original questioner should ignore all of it.

Your advice about executing a file is entirely irrelevant.

> to install (or run ) a file with .bin extension you need to [...]

In this situation, installing a firmware binary image is NOT achieved by
executing the image file. That's not how Debian works.

After installing the Debian, the firmware can provided by installing the
firmware-realtek package. Or that package can be provided during
the install process.

Re: Problems installing Debian

[IL Ka]

If Debian can't detect your network card, I suggest using Debian DVD iso to
install Debian, and then deal with the network card.
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
You need "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso". It can be used to install Debian
without a network connection.

You do not need to provide a proxy. Just leave this field blank.

After successful installation, check that you can log into your system, and
google " + Debian" or check this wiki:
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi

You can also write the name of this card to this list: someone may be able
to help you.



On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:06 AM M.R.P. zensky 
wrote:

>  Hello I have successfully installed ubuntu linux on my system but I want
> to use Debian. I download the iso file from their home page. One problem
> that I am having is the Debian install menu asks for if I use a network
> card. I don’t I use home based wifi which I don’t see an option for this.
> The other problem is that it asks for a proxy for adding a repository.  I
> don’t know what to do with this either. How do you connect Debian to my
> home wifi?
>

Problems installing Debian

[M.R.P. zensky]

 Hello I have successfully installed ubuntu linux on my system but I want to 
use Debian. I download the iso file from their home page. One problem that I am 
having is the Debian install menu asks for if I use a network card. I don’t I 
use home based wifi which I don’t see an option for this. The other problem is 
that it asks for a proxy for adding a repository.  I don’t know what to do with 
this either. How do you connect Debian to my home wifi?

Re: Sendmail et authentification par saslauthd

[BERTRAND Joël]

didier gaumet a écrit :
> 
> pataper: j'y connais vraiment rien
> 
> mais peut-être ici auras-tu un début de piste (utilisation de telnet et
> du port 587 pour tester sasl/smtp)
> 
> https://networking.ringofsaturn.com/Protocols/howtotestsendmailauthentication.php

Merci. Mais ça, je connais, je suis un barbu capable d'envoyer des
mails par telnet. Mon problème est surtout que sendmail semble
totalement ignorer sasl. J'en suis à comparer deux sendmail.cf, celui
d'un site fonctionnel et celui du site que je suis en train de monter.
Et même là, je ne vois rien d'aberrant.

Bien cordialement,

JKB

Re: Firefox and Citrix on Debian Testing

[Semih Ozlem]

Just out of curiosity, does one have to be in an organization that has a
contract with citrix to be able to use citrix products or is it available
for individual use?

For your question Aaron, the following link
https://docs.citrix.com/en-us/citrix-workspace-app-for-linux/system-requirements.html
has some requirements listed. Maybe it would help.

Aaron Elmquist , 20 Şub 2021 Cmt, 17:45 tarihinde şunu
yazdı:

> I am on debian testing.  I installed the latest citrix workspace client
> from here:
>
>
> https://www.citrix.com/downloads/workspace-app/linux/workspace-app-for-linux-latest.html
> - amd64 bit version.
>
> This seemed to work fine except firefox no longer downloaded content
> (chrome did) and syslogd was throwing errors.
>
> Removing the icaclient from the system seems to have resolved the issue.
>
> some of the error messages from the /var/log/syslog
> Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-chrome[7962]: Failed to connect with logd.
> Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-AppProtectionService[697]: Failed to connect
> with logd.
> Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-kded5[2284]: Failed to connect with logd.
> Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-kactivitymanagerd[2465]: Failed to connect
> with logd.
>
> Basically they are all saying that citrix cannot connect to logd.
>
> Also I did not install anything beyond just the client - did not configure
> citrix for any remote desktop.
>
> Wondering if this is just broken on testing, or are there other packages I
> need to install or workarounds available.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>

Re: question regarding live usb versus installed usb

[Stefan Monnier]

> A live usb works on almost any machine that it is plugged into
> But if you install debian on a usb drive that usb drive works only in the
> machine that it was installed in (or maybe a machine that is exactly the
> same as the one it was installed in)
>
> Is this correct?

In my experience, no: if installed "properly" in the USB drive, it's
likely to work just fine in "any" machine, just like the "live" system.
Of course, the "live" systems are usually tweaked so that they work on
as wide an array of machines as reasonably feasible, so it wouldn't
surprise anyone if they work on more machines than a "normal install",
but I've often moved USB/HDD/SSD drives (or cloned root partitions) from
one machine to another without any trouble.


Stefan

Re: blocage au démarrage /var/ plein

[cs_debusr_fr]

Bonjour,

Pour le /var en général des pistes on déjà été données.

Pour docker, il y a 2 possibilités pour évité qu'il remplisse le /var, en cas 
d'erreurs sur un conteneur il peut facilement prendre 10G en quelques heures, 
les logs se trouvent dans 
/var/lib/docker/containers//-json.log, un truncate 
permet de faire le ménage.

Pour évité de docker remplisse le /var:
Option 1: Création d'un file system et faire un point de montage dans 
/var/lib/docker, aucun risque de remplir le /var
Option 2: Changer le répertoire ou se trouve les conteneurs dans 
/etc/docker/daemon.json
S'il existe modifier sinon le créé avec:
{ "graph": "/monnouveauvarlibdocker" }

Un redémarrage de docker et il devrat se trouver dans sa nouvelle localisation, 
et ne pourra plus remplir le /var.

C.S.

20 février 2021 03:09 roger.tar...@free.fr (mailto:roger.tar...@free.fr) a 
écrit:
PS : en mode recovery, solution radicale pour vider le bazar docker :
# cd /var/lib/docker # rm -rf *
Résultat immédiat : machine débloquée.

Comment éviter ce genre de situation d'un système qui se laisse étouffer 
jusqu'au blocage sans rien dire ? (à part une alerte graphique : "il reste plus 
que 40 Mo sur /var/, pauvre pomme !")
ça pourrait aussi être des logs énormes ou autre. C'est un risque important de 
bloquer une machine.

Merci

De: "roger tarani" mailto:roger.tar...@free.fr)>
À: "Liste Debian" mailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org)>
Envoyé: Samedi 20 Février 2021 01:52:04
Objet: blocage au démarrage /var/ plein

Bonjour,
J'ai tardé à corriger un problème de /var/ plein, apparemment causé par la 
gourmandise excessive de docker.
Au redémarrage, la machine reste bloquée sur "Press Ctrl-C to cancel all 
filesystem checks in progress". Au bout de quelques heures et sans réaction à 
Ctrl-C, il y a de sérieux indices que la machine est bloquée.

Je ne sais pas comment ajouter un disque via LVM sans avoir démarré la machine.
Je ne sais quoi vider dans /var/ (a priori la marchandise de docker, ce qui 
nécessite de démarrer sur une clef USB)
Avant de commettre l'irréparable, je préfère vous demander :
quelle est la manoeuvre à privilégier pour débloquer la machine ?
Merci

Re: blocage au démarrage /var/ plein

[laurent]

Bonjour,

Pour le /var en général des pistes on déjà été données.

Pour docker, il y a 2 possibilités pour évité qu'il remplisse le /var, en cas 
d'erreurs sur un conteneur il peut facilement prendre 10G en quelques heures, 
les logs se trouvent dans 
/var/lib/docker/containers//-json.log, un truncate 
permet de faire le ménage.

Pour évité de docker remplisse le /var:
Option 1: Création d'un file system et faire un point de montage dans 
/var/lib/docker, aucun risque de remplir le /var
Option 2: Changer le répertoire ou se trouve les conteneurs dans 
/etc/docker/daemon.json
S'il existe modifier sinon le créé avec:
{ "graph": "/monnouveauvarlibdocker" }

Un redémarrage de docker et il devrat se trouver dans sa nouvelle localisation, 
et ne pourra plus remplir le /var.

C.S.

20 février 2021 03:09 roger.tar...@free.fr (mailto:roger.tar...@free.fr) a 
écrit:
PS : en mode recovery, solution radicale pour vider le bazar docker :
# cd /var/lib/docker # rm -rf *
Résultat immédiat : machine débloquée.

Comment éviter ce genre de situation d'un système qui se laisse étouffer 
jusqu'au blocage sans rien dire ? (à part une alerte graphique : "il reste plus 
que 40 Mo sur /var/, pauvre pomme !")
ça pourrait aussi être des logs énormes ou autre. C'est un risque important de 
bloquer une machine.

Merci

De: "roger tarani" mailto:roger.tar...@free.fr)>
À: "Liste Debian" mailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org)>
Envoyé: Samedi 20 Février 2021 01:52:04
Objet: blocage au démarrage /var/ plein

Bonjour, 
J'ai tardé à corriger un problème de /var/ plein, apparemment causé par la 
gourmandise excessive de docker. 
Au redémarrage, la machine reste bloquée sur "Press Ctrl-C to cancel all 
filesystem checks in progress". Au bout de quelques heures et sans réaction à 
Ctrl-C, il y a de sérieux indices que la machine est bloquée. 

Je ne sais pas comment ajouter un disque via LVM sans avoir démarré la machine.
Je ne sais quoi vider dans /var/ (a priori la marchandise de docker, ce qui 
nécessite de démarrer sur une clef USB)
Avant de commettre l'irréparable, je préfère vous demander :
quelle est la manoeuvre à privilégier pour débloquer la machine ?
Merci

Re: Sendmail et authentification par saslauthd

[didier gaumet]

pataper: j'y connais vraiment rien

mais peut-être ici auras-tu un début de piste (utilisation de telnet et 
du port 587 pour tester sasl/smtp)


https://networking.ringofsaturn.com/Protocols/howtotestsendmailauthentication.php

Re: editer un pdf

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2021-02-20 12:49:57 +0100, ajh-valmer wrote:
> Ça semble mieux marcher maintenant :
> "soffice --draw" => ouvrir => je choisis format PDF,
> le fichier PDF s'ouvre, je modifie,
> pour l'enregistrer,  mais le seul format proposé est ODG.

C'est "Export" qu'il faut utiliser. Mais dans la barre d'outils,
il y a déjà un bouton pour exporter en PDF directement.

-- 
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100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: 
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Sendmail et authentification par saslauthd

[BERTRAND Joël]

Bonsoir à tous,

Je suis en train de monter pour une association un serveur de mail et
je butte sur un problème que je n'arrive par à résoudre.

J'utilise un sendmail des familles (parce que ça fait trente ans que
j'utilise sendmail sur tous mes systèmes allant de VMS à Solaris et que
je maîtrise à peu près l'engin, donc ne me répondez pas de passer à
postfix, exim ou pire qmail...).

Il reçoit sans problème avec tous les milters qui vont bien, mais je
n'arrive pas à envoyer un mail. L'authentification échoue. Et là, je ne
sais plus quoi faire.

J'ai bien configuré sasl2 (avec pam qui va prendre les informations
dans passwd/shadow). saslauthd fonctionne :

root:[/etc/mail] > testsaslauthd -u bertrand -p 
0: OK "Success."
root:[/etc/mail] > testsaslauthd -u bertrand -p 
0: NO "authentication failed"

J'ai naturellement redémarré sendmail après saslauthd (c'est un grand
gag, je me suis fait avoir un certain paquet de fois).

J'ai tenté de lancer sendmail avec la ligne suivante :

/usr/sbin/sendmail  -d95.99 -bD -X test.log

histoire d'avoir toute la transaction dans le fichier test.log. Le
client de messagerie envoie le mot de passe après STARTLS en plain puis
login et se fait claquer la porte aux nez. Si je lance saslautd dans un
terminal, je ne note aucune tentative vers saslauthd de la part de
sendmail (un testsaslauthd montre bien une requête).

J'ai comparé la configuration d'un serveur fonctionnel (celui à partir
duquel je poste) avec celui que je viens de monter, je ne vois pas les
différences. J'ai même vérifié les droits des différents fichiers.
Sendmail ne semble par renvoyer d'erreur, mais n'appelle pas le
mécanisme d'authentification.

Mon sendmail.mc se termine par :
LOCAL_CONFIG
include(`/etc/mail/sasl/sasl.m4')dnl
include(`/etc/mail/tls/starttls.m4')dnl

Je suis preneur de toute idée raisonnable pour débugguer la chose.

Bien cordialement,

JKB

Re: question regarding live usb versus installed usb

[Charles Curley]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 21:14:57 +0300
Semih Ozlem  wrote:

> A live usb works on almost any machine that it is plugged into
> But if you install debian on a usb drive that usb drive works only in
> the machine that it was installed in (or maybe a machine that is
> exactly the same as the one it was installed in)
> 
> Is this correct?

Maybe. These days, with most peripherals containing information about
themselves, the kernel can walk the computer's hardware, and configure
devices and load modules as it goes.

Of course the kernel has to have the drivers handy to do this. So when
you install to a USB drive, put all modules in the initrd, not just
those specific to the hardware on which you are installing.

> 
> If a live usb has missing firmware then it would have to be installed
> everytime the live usb is plugged in
> 
> Is this also correct?

Yes.

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https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin

[Charles Curley]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 20:13:44 +0300
IL Ka  wrote:

> I think you can also download .deb file, copy it to your machine
> using USB flash drive, and install it with dpkg -i

Correct. In addition, if the installer needs it (e.g. firmware), the
installer will find it if you put the .deb in the root of the USB
device.

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https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: question regarding live usb versus installed usb

[David Christensen]

On 2021-02-20 10:14, Semih Ozlem wrote:


... if you install debian on a usb drive that usb drive works only in the
machine that it was installed in (or maybe a machine that is exactly the
same as the one it was installed in)

Is this correct?


I have several computers based on the Intel x86_64 architecture -- 
laptops, desktops, and servers.  I installed Debian [1] onto a 2.5" SATA 
SSD in each of them using:


debian-9.11.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso


I also installed the above onto a SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 16 GB flash 
drive, for maintenance and trouble-shooting purposes.



I can put any SSD or the USB flash drive into any of my Intel x86_64 
computers, and Debian will boot and run.



David


[1] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/

question regarding live usb versus installed usb

[Semih Ozlem]

Hi everyone,

A live usb works on almost any machine that it is plugged into
But if you install debian on a usb drive that usb drive works only in the
machine that it was installed in (or maybe a machine that is exactly the
same as the one it was installed in)

Is this correct?

If a live usb has missing firmware then it would have to be installed
everytime the live usb is plugged in

Is this also correct?

Re: rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin

[David Christensen]

On 2021-02-20 07:49, 郭 灵贤 wrote:

I use USB flash disk to install debian , the monitor display Some of your 
hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate . The firmware can be loaded 
from removable media , such as a USB stick or floppy . The missing firmware 
files are : rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin . If you have 
such media available now , insert it , and continue . What should I do ? I’d 
like to know the detailed steps .

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Debian documentation is here:

https://www.debian.org/doc/


Here is the administrator's handbook:

https://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#debian-handbook


This manual is focused on installing Debian:

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual


This guide is focused on the Debian package management system:

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-guide/index.en.html


Regarding the message displayed by the Debian installer, "Some of your 
hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate", I know of three options:


1.  Skip installing the firmware, install Debian, and install the 
firmware later.  This is what I have done in the past with laptop 
computers that have both a wired (Ethernet) network interface and a 
wireless (Wi-Fi) interface.


2.  For laptops without a wired network interface, in the past I have 
put the firmware files on a USB flash drive.  I can either install the 
firmware while installing Debian, or install them later.  See:


https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.en.html

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/sect.manipulating-packages-with-dpkg.en.html#id-1.8.8.5

3.  Use an "unofficial" installer image that includes firmware.  I will 
try this method the next time I want to install Debian onto a laptop 
with a wireless network interface:


https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/


David

Re: rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin

[IL Ka]

>
>
> Anyone correct me if I am wrong, to install (or run ) a file with .bin
> extension you need to make that file executable.
>

This file is firmware: a special program written for hardware by the vendor
(kind of BIOS).
You shouldn't execute it. Instead, you must load it to the hardware.

https://authmane512.medium.com/how-to-install-a-missing-firmware-on-linux-debian-21c0a9213c56

Re: rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin

[Semih Ozlem]

Anyone correct me if I am wrong, to install (or run ) a file with .bin
extension you need to make that file executable. You can do that if you
have a graphical user interface (GUI) desktop environment, by going to the
location of that file with your file manager which is the program Nautilus,
right-clicking with mouse to the icon for the file, selecting Properties
from the menu, clicking on execution permissions box. You can do that also
from command line (by starting the program terminal) changing to the
directory that the file is at by command "cd "+pathoffile . Then executing
command "chmod a+x" filename or "chmod +x"filename (firstone makes any user
of the machine be able to execute the file). Then running the command
"./"filename or "sh ./"filename should run the program to install. Maybe
after making the file executable you can run it simply by double-clicking...

郭 灵贤 , 20 Şub 2021 Cmt, 19:24 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

> I use USB flash disk to install debian , the monitor display Some of your
> hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate . The firmware can be
> loaded from removable media , such as a USB stick or floppy . The missing
> firmware files are : rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin .
> If you have such media available now , insert it , and continue . What
> should I do ? I’d like to know the detailed steps .
>
>
>
> 发送自 Windows 10 版邮件 应用
>
>
>

Re: rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin

[IL Ka]

Hello.
Install debian. Then, enable non-free software (you can do that while
installing or later: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList)
Then, install this package:
https://packages.debian.org/en/sid/firmware-realtek

I think you can also download .deb file, copy it to your machine using USB
flash drive, and install it with dpkg -i



On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 7:24 PM 郭 灵贤  wrote:

> I use USB flash disk to install debian , the monitor display Some of your
> hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate . The firmware can be
> loaded from removable media , such as a USB stick or floppy . The missing
> firmware files are : rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin .
> If you have such media available now , insert it , and continue . What
> should I do ? I’d like to know the detailed steps .
>
>
>
> 发送自 Windows 10 版邮件 应用
>
>
>

rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin

[郭 灵贤]

I use USB flash disk to install debian , the monitor display Some of your 
hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate . The firmware can be loaded 
from removable media , such as a USB stick or floppy . The missing firmware 
files are : rtlwifi/rtl8723befw_36.bin , rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin . If you have 
such media available now , insert it , and continue . What should I do ? I’d 
like to know the detailed steps .

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Re: Firefox and Citrix on Debian Testing

[Aaron Elmquist]

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 8:51 AM Dan Ritter  wrote:

> Aaron Elmquist wrote:
> > I am on debian testing.  I installed the latest citrix workspace client
> > from here:
> >
> >
> https://www.citrix.com/downloads/workspace-app/linux/workspace-app-for-linux-latest.html
> > - amd64 bit version.
> >
> > This seemed to work fine except firefox no longer downloaded content
> > (chrome did) and syslogd was throwing errors.
> >
> > Removing the icaclient from the system seems to have resolved the issue.
> >
> > some of the error messages from the /var/log/syslog
> > Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-chrome[7962]: Failed to connect with logd.
> > Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-AppProtectionService[697]: Failed to
> connect
> > with logd.
> > Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-kded5[2284]: Failed to connect with logd.
> > Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-kactivitymanagerd[2465]: Failed to connect
> > with logd.
> >
> > Basically they are all saying that citrix cannot connect to logd.
> >
> > Also I did not install anything beyond just the client - did not
> configure
> > citrix for any remote desktop.
> >
> > Wondering if this is just broken on testing, or are there other packages
> I
> > need to install or workarounds available.
>
> Have you asked Citrix to support the product that they are delivering to
> you?
>

No, I did not. You're right. I should start there.

Incidentally, what you are describing is "syslog is showing me
> the errors", not "syslogd was throwing errors" which implies
> that syslogd is not functioning properly.
>

Correct.  I don't believe there is an issue with syslogd and wrote that
incorrectly.

-dsr-
>
>

Re: blocage au démarrage /var/ plein

[Jean-Michel OLTRA]

Bonjour,


Le samedi 20 février 2021, roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit...


> Comment éviter ce genre de situation d'un système qui se laisse étouffer
> jusqu'au blocage sans rien dire ? (à part une alerte graphique : "il reste
> plus que 40 Mo sur /var/, pauvre pomme !") 

Tu peux utiliser un outil de surveillance, comme Icinga2, et/ou un outil
comme Ossec (créer des commandes personnalisées pour faire des `du -sh` ou
df). Ou un script perso lancé par cron, je suppose. Ou snmp ?

-- 
jm

Re: debian installation is no longer working

[Semih Ozlem]

When Debian is starting the following are the highlighted messages and or
places where booting pauses and at the very end pauses almost indefinitely
(or rather when I lost the patience for waiting for new messages to come up
and shut down the machine).

I am writing everything down I was able to get out of the system below. I
have the following questions
(i) is there any automatic system recovery tools worth trying
(ii) is there a set of commands that could be executed when in rescue mode
to restore the system
(iii) is it worth the time to try to rescue the system (or better of giving
up and reinstalling the system from scratch on the device)
(iv) is there something to be learned from this series of errors so that if
not repeated, this problem can be avoided in the future from occuring
again? (i.e. a correct diagnosis of the reason for the problem)

Can anyone help?

Thanks Semih
--

ERROR MESSAGES:

(A) During boot the following pink/red messages occur:

[DEPEND] Dependency failed for /dev/disk/by-uuid/  and also for swap

(B) after debian switches to rescue mode and root bash line appears,

In the response to  "journalctl -xf" the following problems occur

(i) kernel:Bluetooth:hcio:unexpected event for opcode 0xfc2f
(ii) systemd[1]:Timed out waiting for device /dev/disk/by-uuid/... (for two
disks)
(iii) Failed to get initial list of names:Connection timed out
(iv) dbus.service: Main process exited, status=1/FAILURE
Failed with result 'exit-code'
(v) L1TF CPU bug present and SMT on, data leak possible see CVE-2018-3646
kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/hw-vuln/l1tf.html

(C) systemctl -al gives following problems

Loaded failed: bluetooth.service,dbus.service
Not found: tmp.mount,
auditd.service,connman.service,console-screen.service,fcoe.service,firewalld.service,greylist.service,iscsi.service,
iscsid.serive,kbd.service,lvm2-activation.service,postgresq;.service,snapd.failure.service,spamassasin.service,systemd-machined.service,
systemd-update-done.service,systemd-vconsole-setup.service.

(D) Booting pauses indefinitely (as long as I had the patience to wait for)
at the line
IPv6:ADDCONF(NETDV_UP): docker0, br- : link is not ready
This line appears after some messages regarding vbox (virtualbox)


Semih Ozlem , 20 Şub 2021 Cmt, 15:23
tarihinde şunu yazdı:

> In addition to my earlier message, the usb drive has three partitions FAT
> partition including EFI, swap  partition, btrfs partition where home folder
> is located.
>
> sudo btrfs rescue super-recover /dev/sdc3
> gives the response
> All supers are valid, no need to recover
>
> When starting from the usb, the boot process starts with some messages
> such as not starting network manager. Indeed if I drop to root shell,
> apt-get update won't do what it usually does since internet connection
> can't be established. (similarly neither apt --fix-broken install) there
> was also a message about a bug in kernel at boot time.
>
> Any ideas on what can be done so that booting of the system can be
> restored?
>
>
> Semih Ozlem , 20 Şub 2021 Cmt, 09:26
> tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I installed debian 10 on a 64 GB usb. It had been working fine. Last I
>> installed apache server, virtualbox, docker. After all this it worked fine
>> for a while, though at times slowly. Currently it is not working. It does
>> not finish booting, and it gets stuck at a certain point. The scrolling
>> lines indicate DEPEND problem and failing to start network manager and some
>> other issues, that I have not been able to write down.
>> When I choose to boot in recovery mode, I am able to get to a shell as
>> root. However I do not know and am not sure about what steps to take to
>> rescue the system. Can anyone offer help or indicate a good source to read
>> through?
>> I have not written down machine details, (would this be related to the
>> machine, since it used to work fine).
>>
>> Linux kernel that the debian 10 system is using is 4.19.0.6 or 4.19.0.8
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>

Re: Firefox and Citrix on Debian Testing

[Dan Ritter]

Aaron Elmquist wrote: 
> I am on debian testing.  I installed the latest citrix workspace client
> from here:
> 
> https://www.citrix.com/downloads/workspace-app/linux/workspace-app-for-linux-latest.html
> - amd64 bit version.
> 
> This seemed to work fine except firefox no longer downloaded content
> (chrome did) and syslogd was throwing errors.
> 
> Removing the icaclient from the system seems to have resolved the issue.
> 
> some of the error messages from the /var/log/syslog
> Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-chrome[7962]: Failed to connect with logd.
> Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-AppProtectionService[697]: Failed to connect
> with logd.
> Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-kded5[2284]: Failed to connect with logd.
> Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-kactivitymanagerd[2465]: Failed to connect
> with logd.
> 
> Basically they are all saying that citrix cannot connect to logd.
> 
> Also I did not install anything beyond just the client - did not configure
> citrix for any remote desktop.
> 
> Wondering if this is just broken on testing, or are there other packages I
> need to install or workarounds available.

Have you asked Citrix to support the product that they are delivering to you?

Incidentally, what you are describing is "syslog is showing me
the errors", not "syslogd was throwing errors" which implies
that syslogd is not functioning properly.

-dsr-

Firefox and Citrix on Debian Testing

[Aaron Elmquist]

I am on debian testing.  I installed the latest citrix workspace client
from here:

https://www.citrix.com/downloads/workspace-app/linux/workspace-app-for-linux-latest.html
- amd64 bit version.

This seemed to work fine except firefox no longer downloaded content
(chrome did) and syslogd was throwing errors.

Removing the icaclient from the system seems to have resolved the issue.

some of the error messages from the /var/log/syslog
Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-chrome[7962]: Failed to connect with logd.
Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-AppProtectionService[697]: Failed to connect
with logd.
Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-kded5[2284]: Failed to connect with logd.
Feb 18 13:29:42 debian citrix-kactivitymanagerd[2465]: Failed to connect
with logd.

Basically they are all saying that citrix cannot connect to logd.

Also I did not install anything beyond just the client - did not configure
citrix for any remote desktop.

Wondering if this is just broken on testing, or are there other packages I
need to install or workarounds available.

Thanks,
Aaron

Re: debian installation is no longer working

[tomas]

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 12:23:21PM +, Semih Ozlem wrote:
> In addition to my earlier message, the usb drive has three partitions FAT
> partition including EFI, swap  partition, btrfs partition where home folder
> is located.
> 
> sudo btrfs rescue super-recover /dev/sdc3
> gives the response
> All supers are valid, no need to recover
> 
> When starting from the usb, the boot process starts with some messages such
> as not starting network manager. Indeed if I drop to root shell, apt-get
> update won't do what it usually does since internet connection can't be
> established. (similarly neither apt --fix-broken install) there was also a
> message about a bug in kernel at boot time.
> 
> Any ideas on what can be done so that booting of the system can be restored?

No. I'm pretty blank on btrfs (and short on time, but who isn't ;-)

Please keep your replies on-list: there may be others who could
help (and others, again, who can profit from the conversation by
reading the archives).

Only one last thing: if you start from the USB (and aren't in rescue
mode), you probably won't be able to check the root file system,
because it'll be mounted (unless that's possible with btrfs, which
I don't know for sure).

Cheers
 - t


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Re: Conflicting alternatives

[Curt]

On 2021-02-20, David Wright  wrote:
>
> For each MTA, you also have to ensure that their well-known recipes
> for passing off work to other software (like MDAs) still work, else
> Debian gets lumbered with supporting all the breakages that occur
> (or, worse, loses reputation).
>

Did someone mention (I have neglected to read most of the thread) that
Fedora has a switching mechanism?

 Fedora 12 provides three MTAs: Sendmail, Postfix, and Exim. If all
 three are installed, sendmail is the default MTA. The Mail Transport
 Agent Switcher allows for the selection of either sendmail, postfix, or
 exim as the default MTA for the system.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/12/html/Deployment_Guide/s1-email-switchmail.html

The Mail Transport Agent Switcher. Almost sounds like a name invented by
the marketing department. Anyway, I guess the MTAS is irrelevant because
we're not concerned with Fedora here. But I suppose its existence proves
its usefulness---or maybe the word is practicality---at least for
Fedora users. 

Re: OT: Router behaviour

[deloptes]

Mark Fletcher wrote:

> There is a switch on the back of the old router, with 2 settings, "AP"
> and "WB". "AP" is obviously "Access Point". Not sure yet what "WB"
> stands for but I suspect some of the links you guys supplied will help
> me figure that out. The router is set to "AP" -- I _think_ it always has
> been, but I might be misremembering that and the switch could easily
> enough have been moved in the course of an international move or while
> lying around on my spare bedroom floor for the best part of a year.

WB is wireless bridge - many routers - same SID

keep it set to AP

Re: OT: Router behaviour

[Mark Fletcher]

On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 08:23:39PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > I powered the router down again, plugged its WAN port into one of the 
> > LAN ports of the ISP-supplied router, and brought it back up.
> 
> I you sure you plugged your ISP-router into the WAN port of your
> (Buffalo) router and not into one of the LAN ports?
> 
> The behavior you describe would be easy to explain if it was plugged
> into a LAN port (or if the WAN port was somehow bridged with the LAN
> ports) since in that case you'd have basically a single network with
> packets forwarded between the two routers, and two DHCP servers, making
> it quite possible that a DHCP request received on your router ends up
> being answered by the ISP router instead (since the request is
> broadcasted to all connected machines).
> 

So thanks to everyone who replied to this thread, some really great 
links and suggestions which I am following up. One thing for the record, 
there is absolutely no possibility I connected the LAN port to LAN port 
-- the LAN port on the ISP's router is plugged into the WAN port of the 
old router. That has been checked, double checked and triple checked. 
Whatever is causing it, it isn't that.

There is a switch on the back of the old router, with 2 settings, "AP" 
and "WB". "AP" is obviously "Access Point". Not sure yet what "WB" 
stands for but I suspect some of the links you guys supplied will help 
me figure that out. The router is set to "AP" -- I _think_ it always has 
been, but I might be misremembering that and the switch could easily 
enough have been moved in the course of an international move or while 
lying around on my spare bedroom floor for the best part of a year.

Anyway -- thanks very much all for the input supplied, I have plenty 
reading to do! :)

Mark

Re: debian installation is no longer working

[Semih Ozlem]

In addition to my earlier message, the usb drive has three partitions FAT
partition including EFI, swap  partition, btrfs partition where home folder
is located.

sudo btrfs rescue super-recover /dev/sdc3
gives the response
All supers are valid, no need to recover

When starting from the usb, the boot process starts with some messages such
as not starting network manager. Indeed if I drop to root shell, apt-get
update won't do what it usually does since internet connection can't be
established. (similarly neither apt --fix-broken install) there was also a
message about a bug in kernel at boot time.

Any ideas on what can be done so that booting of the system can be restored?


Semih Ozlem , 20 Şub 2021 Cmt, 09:26
tarihinde şunu yazdı:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I installed debian 10 on a 64 GB usb. It had been working fine. Last I
> installed apache server, virtualbox, docker. After all this it worked fine
> for a while, though at times slowly. Currently it is not working. It does
> not finish booting, and it gets stuck at a certain point. The scrolling
> lines indicate DEPEND problem and failing to start network manager and some
> other issues, that I have not been able to write down.
> When I choose to boot in recovery mode, I am able to get to a shell as
> root. However I do not know and am not sure about what steps to take to
> rescue the system. Can anyone offer help or indicate a good source to read
> through?
> I have not written down machine details, (would this be related to the
> machine, since it used to work fine).
>
> Linux kernel that the debian 10 system is using is 4.19.0.6 or 4.19.0.8
>
> Thank you
>

Re: spectre-meltdown-checker: Hash Sum mismatch

[didar]

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 04:26:17PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote:
> Harald Dunkel  writes:
> 
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > aptitude shows
> >
> > E: Failed to fetch
> >
> > http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/spectre-meltdown-checker/spectre-meltdown-checker_0.42-1_all.deb:
> >  Hash Sum mismatch
> >Hashes of expected file:
> >- SHA256:a5b777497c860a51ce1f1fd888f727531ea60be625ffe6787aebf12823177e2f
> >- MD5Sum:3e6e8e46213f00c03d1103757bca1fd5 [weak]
> >- Filesize:45208 [weak]
> >Hashes of received file:
> >- SHA256:1dca832b59ff6fce1b506c5291418a30c99e0d1f5b43b504909bfd8bbfdc3490
> >- MD5Sum:2f3d9c6f6a5f7704b64f6f582ee4dcd7 [weak]
> >- Filesize:45208 [weak]
> >Last modification reported: Mon, 27 May 2019 11:14:06 +
> > E: Unable to fetch some packages; try '-o APT::Get::Fix-Missing=true' to 
> > continue with missing packages
> >
> > I already cleared the cache of apt-cacher-ng, but the problem comes back.
> > What would you suggest how to proceed?
> 
I had struggled with a similar problem. I went to
http://localhost:3142/acng-report.html page:

Under "Shared processing options":

Check the following:
`Force the download of index files (even having fresh ones)'

Under "Expiration":
  
  Check the following:
`Ignore the threshold that aborts early when there is probably not much to 
do'
`then validate file contents through checksum (SLOW), also detecting 
corrupt files,'
`then truncate damaged files immediately.'
`Treat incomplete files as damaged.'
`Purge unreferenced files immediately after scan'

Then click on "Start Scan and/or Expiration" button. 

In the resultant page click on "Check all" button and then click on "Delete
selected files". You will be shown another page asking for confirmation of
deleting the files - click on the "Delete now" button.

Now try another run of "apt/apt-get update". I had to do the above steps quiet a
few times before I was able to get things working.

HTH,
didar



> What do you mean "already cleared cache"  I have similar problem with
> other package and I have to pysically
> "rm /path/to/package/in/apt-cacher"
> 
> KJ


> -- 
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Re: editer un pdf

[ajh-valmer]

On Friday 19 February 2021 23:05:49 Th.A.C wrote:

Suppression de /home//.config/libreoffice/

Ça semble mieux marcher maintenant :
"soffice --draw" => ouvrir => je choisis format PDF,
le fichier PDF s'ouvre, je modifie,
pour l'enregistrer,  mais le seul format proposé est ODG.

Si le document PDF fait une seule page, GIMP fait bien l'affaire.

Il semble que Libreoffice n'affiche que la 1ère page d'un doc. PDF,
et je ne vois pas comment les afficher les autres.

Merci en tout cas pour l'aide patiente :-)

Fwd: blocage au démarrage /var/ plein

[Bernard Schoenacker]

- Mail transféré -
> De: "Bernard Schoenacker" 
> À: "roger tarani" 
> Envoyé: Samedi 20 Février 2021 06:18:02
> Objet: Re: blocage au démarrage /var/ plein
> 
> Bonjour Roger,
> 
> avant de supprimer sans réfléchir, je te conseille
> d'employer la commande df -h / /var
> 
> Ensuite, il faut faire le ménage en nettoyant
> le cache des paquets installés (root)
> 
> rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
> 
> refaire une vérification pour obtenir
> la valeur de l'espace occuppé :
>  
> df -h / /var
> 
> paquet intéressant à installer :deborphan
> 
> sudo apt install -y deborphan
> 
> sudo apt purge -y $(deborphan |xargs)
> 
> pour les journaux (log) il suffit de lancer
> la commande via find et de supprimer les anciennes
> archives ...
> 
>
> merci
> @+
> Bernard

Re: debian installation is no longer working

[tomas]

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 12:26:36PM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I installed debian 10 on a 64 GB usb [...]

USB sticks sometimes die slow deaths. It'd be interesting to check
the file systems on your USB stick, perhaps from another Linux
installation, perhaps from a live or rescue system

Without knowing your infrastructure, it's difficult to recommend
more concrete steps.

Cheers
 - t


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debian installation is no longer working

[Semih Ozlem]

Hi everyone,

I installed debian 10 on a 64 GB usb. It had been working fine. Last I
installed apache server, virtualbox, docker. After all this it worked fine
for a while, though at times slowly. Currently it is not working. It does
not finish booting, and it gets stuck at a certain point. The scrolling
lines indicate DEPEND problem and failing to start network manager and some
other issues, that I have not been able to write down.
When I choose to boot in recovery mode, I am able to get to a shell as
root. However I do not know and am not sure about what steps to take to
rescue the system. Can anyone offer help or indicate a good source to read
through?
I have not written down machine details, (would this be related to the
machine, since it used to work fine).

Linux kernel that the debian 10 system is using is 4.19.0.6 or 4.19.0.8

Thank you

Re: Validacions de formularis PDF per internet

[Narcis Garcia]

Té la comissió alguna pàgina informativa, registre d'incidències o forma
de contacte per a què la gent notifiqui casos?
Estaria bé una forma de què els casos es puguin documentar
col·lectivament i fins i tot fer-ne un seguiment de la seva evolució
fins a l'estat [Solved]



Narcis Garcia

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I'm using this dedicated address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator
should fix this against automated addresses collectors.
El 19/2/21 a les 15:46, Joan ha escrit:
> A Caliu hi ha una comissió, acabada de crear, per recopilat tots
> aquests tràmits amb les administracions públiques que no es puguin fer
> amb Linux. Allà a priori també mirarem si la normativa ho ampara, o no,
> i en tot cas la idea és iniciar una campanya perquè això canvii i
> l'administració "oberta" sigui, realment, multiplataforma"
> 

The Elephant and the Philospher [was: Question regarding hardware choices]

[tomas]

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 06:22:31PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:

[...]

> So, metaphorically speaking, rather than blindly groping some
> portion of an unknown beast and attempting to describe it [...]

CONGRATS! You just managed to get hold of that philospher who
was gripping firmly the elephant's tail. No idea what (s)he
was doing there nor why the elephant  was tolerating it (well,
elephants are said to be tolerant and nice, perhaps it's that).

;-D

Cheers
 - t


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Re: OT: Router behaviour

[Rick Thomas]

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Mark Fletcher wrote: 
> > First apologies for the off-topic post, but I know this community is 
> > full of experts on this topic and my ask in the end is a simple one:
> 
> (and you can use Debian to achieve your ends)
> 
> > Can anyone point me at a reasonably accessible guide to the details of 
> > how IP networks work, in particular the communications that occur 
> > between router devices that are designed to support home networks? I'm 
> > computer science trained but from many years ago and if I ever learned 
> > these specific details I have forgotten them, but I feel equipped to 
> > understand them. I'm after a certain amount of detail and would prefer 
> > to avoid adverts or advice of the "just buy our product, plug it in and 
> > your problems will all be solved" type.
> 
> The most useful single doc is https://lartc.org/lartc.html
> which, although omitting more recent developments, is an
> excellent foundation in networking and routing aimed at the
> small office or family sysadmin.

If you want a complete, comprehensive textbook on networking, take a look at
David J. Wetherall, Andrew Tanenbaum: "Computer Networks, Fifth Edition"
This is e-book, but it's also available in paperback and hardback.


https://bellasias.com/product/e-book-computer-networks-fifth-edition-pdf-epub-david-j-wetherall-andrew-s-tanenbaum/?msclkid=6dce151da1951218f101752d64ca293f

Enjoy!
Rick

Re: wine 6 debian stretch

[mattias jonsson]

den lägsta versionen där är som sagt 5.17. för debian 9


Den 19 februari 2021 15:41:32 skrev Jonathan Sélea :


Absolut kan du det!
Du kan installera det ifrån WineHQ's egna repo:

Debian - WineHQ Wiki [1]

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On 2021-02-17 20:18, mattias jonsson wrote:

går det äns installera wine 6 på debian stretch? har lagt till wines apt 
repo men det lägsta är wine staging 5.17 likadant wine devel samma version 
som staging
 


Links:
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