Re: resize pictures received by mailserver
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:26:08 +0100, Tixy wrote in message 1339781168.3116.8.ca...@computer2.home: On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 04:34 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:37:18 -0500, Christofer wrote in message caoevnyujsmftaqze+suzcvhjnvk48hnvjlngofzg5bxu-xv...@mail.gmail.com: It's much simpler to do: mogrify -resize '800x600' testimage.jpg or to limit it to 800 in any dimension mogrify -resize '800x800' testimage.jpg (These commands preserve aspect ratio and only resize if image is greater than the given dimensions.) Well, color me impressed! I didn't know about that notation. That certainly would have saved me a lot of pain with some shell scripts I wrote awhile back for image management! I'll keep that in my bag of tricks and thank you for the tip! ..I lost you guys here; is the new trick in the bag the use of mogrify, or is it putting the in '800x600', inside the single quotes, typo style like? It's the but as that is treated specially by shells, you need to include the argument in '' or take other precautions. ..ah, thanks. imagemagic has a wealth of options, it's well worth reading them whenever you have an image manipulation task. [1] ..aye, I went the graphicsmagick route but I don't recall why. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120616122213.0670c...@celsius.lan
Re: ..selling a surplus wintendo sticker, was: dd_rescue No additional sense
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:03:33 +0200, Ralf wrote in message 1339837413.3429.58.camel@precise: On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 18:01 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Maybe this?: Just some results from 'intel microsoft vista home basic scandal' search on Google: http://www.technoledge.com.au/pdfs/marketing-windows7.pdf http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/microsoft-employee-caught-out-by-windows-vista-capable-logo/1288 http://www.tech-archive.net/Archive/WinXP/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/2012-01/msg00016.html I dunno, nevertheless I enjoyed reading :). ..well, it's no wonder Microsoft has a problem with people selling counterfeit Microsoft stickers, that's forgery and fraud, but it's refreshing to see them caring about it as a way to stop software piracy. ..and, I'm _perfectly_ ok with losing my right to run Wintendo XP Pro, exactly by selling that right to somebody else and in return for money, that's exactly how a lawful sale works. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120616200533.778ed...@celsius.lan
..selling a surplus wintendo sticker, was: dd_rescue No additional sense
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:57:13 +0100, keith wrote in message 1339750633.2316.9.camel@hp-g62: However, there is a code sticker on the bottom of a laptop, that may let you get a copy from the manufacturer. ..I bought a laptop with a wintendo install that I used to pick up the http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ installer, how much is a surplus wintendo sticker sticker worth on e.g. Ebay? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120616003400.26072...@celsius.lan
Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:32:56 +1000, Scott wrote in message 4fd9a1b8.9050...@gmail.com: On 14/06/12 04:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:27:22 +1000, Scott wrote in message 4fd7de6a.6020...@gmail.com: On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote: On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 16:52:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in message 20120612100122.GJ30016@desktop: The DVD is a USB device. She cannot boot from USB on the machine she wishes to install Debian to. snipped I've tried that a number of times with old machines whose BIOS didn't support USB booting, only on a couple of occasions did GRUB manage to use the root=/dev/sdb line. :-( ..the key is use the cdrom grub boot as a stepping stone to find the usb dvd's boot record, and boot that. E.g. Knoppix have a few 16?MB boot only isos to boot their 4GB dvd isos. Yes - I think (guess) it's the same as the one from DamnSmallLinux, (and uses the same mechanism as SBM), - a floppy chainloader for CD boot. It gets around the BIOS not being able to see the device attached to the USB. AFAIK GRUB can't get around that limitation (boot a device unseen by the BIOS) - though I don't doubt GRUB has the capacity to do so if SmartBootManager type hooks were written into a GRUB module (the spaceinvaders module for GRUB is a good example of how simple that might be). ..easiest way is chainload SBM, I suspect that may be what SBM does, I was able to hop back and forth between harddisk and cd or floppy by simply picking that item in SBM's menu. Got that idea idea trying to set up lilo boot on a box with a raid1 disk setup. ;o) ..in my (grub legacy) experience, I did this 3 ways, chainload the next boot loader, or, use memdisk as kernel and the iso image as initrd, Which should (I suspect) allow you to boot from devices not 'seen' by the BIOS (e.g. attached to cards, removable) ..correct. and finally the grub way, root ([tab][tab]. I borrowed memdisk from syslinux. ;o) ..but yes, grub and the kernel will often disagree on what's where. Your third way (I suspect) allows you to boot a device that is seen by the BIOS, but is seen by the BIOS as unbootable. Eg. BIOS sees USB, but doesn't allow for booting from a USB device (possibly the scenario in question). ..probably, I was trying to make money getting it out my door. ;o) snipped ..the first time I pulled such a stunt, (5 1996 vintage IBM 760ED thinkpads that came with 3 cdrom and 2 bootable floppy drives to fit the auxillary disk|battery compartment,) I put Smart Boot Manager (http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/about.html) on the harddisk mbrs, then removed the floppy drives and put in the cd drives and booted the distro installer cds from the harddisks. I suspect SBM uses the same mechanism as the Knoppix/DSL boot CD from floppy method. First X boot was an early knoppix clone that took 2.5 hours off that poor 4x cd drive. ;o) ...but almost certainly it got you some sort of graphical display - a major Linux achievement at the time (kudos to kudzu and Klaus's config scripting). ..probably, I don't recall any details other than that black screen suddenly lighting up into X half way thru my tax return, most installers back then (2000-2002?) used ncurses style graphics. Not much earlier than that it was just floppy installs as CDs wouldn't boot off card controllers - so DOS and laplink was considered corner cutting (I'd forgotten how unreliable floppy disks were). ..aye, I came aboard with a SuSE-5.2 cd trying to save data from ~25 Wintendo-95 crashes in a coupla weeks. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120615042455.26a37...@celsius.lan
Re: resize pictures received by mailserver
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:37:18 -0500, Christofer wrote in message caoevnyujsmftaqze+suzcvhjnvk48hnvjlngofzg5bxu-xv...@mail.gmail.com: It's much simpler to do: mogrify -resize '800x600' testimage.jpg or to limit it to 800 in any dimension mogrify -resize '800x800' testimage.jpg (These commands preserve aspect ratio and only resize if image is greater than the given dimensions.) Well, color me impressed! I didn't know about that notation. That certainly would have saved me a lot of pain with some shell scripts I wrote awhile back for image management! I'll keep that in my bag of tricks and thank you for the tip! ..I lost you guys here; is the new trick in the bag the use of mogrify, or is it putting the in '800x600', inside the single quotes, typo style like? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120615043403.21ec1...@celsius.lan
Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:47:37 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message pine.bsf.4.64.1206122132390.12...@server1.shellworld.net: but I am working with very limited information, and have more than enough room on the 30gig hard drive I am using for all of the packages. ..oh yeah? ;o) root@celsius:~# du -sch /usr /boot/ /bin/ /etc/ /li* /sbin /var/lib 17G /usr 70M /boot/ 7.7M/bin/ 18M /etc/ 461M/lib 3.0M/lib32 4.0K/lib64 17M /sbin 6.2G/var/lib 23G total root@celsius:~# dpkg -l |grep ^ii |wc -l 4350 root@celsius:~# ..aptitude says: Not Installed Packages (33823)... ;o) Then I can choose so that for my next machine I can install less. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120613194440.52e05...@celsius.lan
Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:27:22 +1000, Scott wrote in message 4fd7de6a.6020...@gmail.com: On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote: On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 16:52:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in message 20120612100122.GJ30016@desktop: The DVD is a USB device. She cannot boot from USB on the machine she wishes to install Debian to. Make and model? I can't think of any common laptops (or netbooks) manufactured in the last ten years that can't boot from a USB device only the Toshiba R series laptops, and then only if it's the Toshiba external DVD not using a Toshiba OEM DVD/CD - for which there is a work-around. Enable legacy USB support in the BIOS (and disable any USB performance modes) and USB usually becomes bootable. snipped ..once in grub, Karen wants to issue:root ( and then hit the tab button twice, to get grub's suggestions on what it can boot. If that fails, take a standard grub meny entry and strip it down upwards from the bottom until the root ( and try again from there, grub 2 is more modular than legacy grub, and I don't remember if I've ever done this in anger from grub-2. I've tried that a number of times with old machines whose BIOS didn't support USB booting, only on a couple of occasions did GRUB manage to use the root=/dev/sdb line. :-( ..the key is use the cdrom grub boot as a stepping stone to find the usb dvd's boot record, and boot that. E.g. Knoppix have a few 16?MB boot only isos to boot their 4GB dvd isos. ..in my (grub legacy) experience, I did this 3 ways, chainload the next boot loader, or, use memdisk as kernel and the iso image as initrd, and finally the grub way, root ([tab][tab]. I borrowed memdisk from syslinux. ;o) ..but yes, grub and the kernel will often disagree on what's where. I've have had some success in those case with floppy image from DamnSmallLinux designed for that purpose. PLoP will also allow you to boot from a CD/DVD that's not supported by the BIOS (pre-1998 BIOS) ..the first time I pulled such a stunt, (5 1996 vintage IBM 760ED thinkpads that came with 3 cdrom and 2 bootable floppy drives to fit the auxillary disk|battery compartment,) I put Smart Boot Manager (http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/about.html) on the harddisk mbrs, then removed the floppy drives and put in the cd drives and booted the distro installer cds from the harddisks. First X boot was an early knoppix clone that took 2.5 hours off that poor 4x cd drive. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120613200418.66f70...@celsius.lan
Re: unique install question?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:14:16 -0400, Mark wrote in message 201206130514.16720.m...@neidorff.com: On Tuesday 12 June 2012 5:55:21 pm Karen Lewellen wrote: ...it is also the bit that does not work, which is why I asked here. Karen, who is playing catch up, and profoundly appreciative of all the wisdom shared here today. Karen, Have you contacted U of Toronto for help with your problem? From the outside, the university seems to be on the cutting edge of technology and linux development. ..while you're there, Karen, ask them for their opinion of the http://knopper.net/knoppix-adriane/index-en.html, it speaks. ;o) ..if you go the Knoppix route, stay with version 6.7.1, todays current version 7.0.2 has a wee bug that denies you your use of useful menus, you'll need a new /etc/inittab.adriane: http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix702-en.html section Known bugs in version 7.0.2, should be fixed in 7.0.3. ..knoppix is a good way towards Debian. Can Debian Installer match it for blind people? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120613202214.45a2a...@celsius.lan
Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:59:19 +0200, Ralf wrote in message 1339610359.8093.26.camel@precise: On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:44 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] Since I mentioned already that 30GB aren't that much today and Arnt also didn't explain why, I feel the need to explain what at least is my guess: A packages contains packed, compressed data, that means, that as soon as it's enpacked and installed, the needed space is much more than the bytes, the compressed package needs. ..to simplify further: ;o) 4350 packages installed onto 23GB, Karen could expand that to say 5673 packages: arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ qalc 30Gbytes*4350/23Gbytes (30 * gigabyte * 4350) / (23 * gigabyte) = approx. 5673.913 ..which is roughly one sixth of what Debian can offer: arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ qalc 30Gbytes*4350/23Gbytes/33823 ((30 * gigabyte * 4350) / (23 *gigabyte)) / 33823 = approx. 0.1677531 ..I'm able to squeeze in a little more into my 750GB laptop disk: arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ qalc 750Gbytes*4350/23Gbytes (750 * gigabyte * 4350) / (23 * gigabyte) = approx. 141847.83 ..or if you will, 4 foie gras installs on top of Karen's. ;o) arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ qalc 750Gbytes*4350/23Gbytes/33823 ((750 * gigabyte * 4350) / (23 * gigabyte)) / 33823 = approx. 4.1938275 arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120613210228.1f0ce...@celsius.lan
Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:14:16 +0200, Ralf wrote in message 1339611256.8093.31.camel@precise: On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:04 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..in my (grub legacy) experience Pff, you prefer grub legacy too? ..only when I get stuck with v2. ;o) I'm using GRUB legacy myself, but I suspect newbies need to be able to handle GRUB 2 when installing most common distros?! ..yup, and they need docs and pointers to those. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120613210605.52121...@celsius.lan
Re: books on debian of a beginner nature?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:01:26 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message pine.bsf.4.64.1206131047400.36...@server1.shellworld.net: ..newbie-doc online: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/newbiedoc/ ..newbie-doc deep in the woods: http://127.0.0.1/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Index.html?type=html arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ apt-cache show newbiedoc Package: newbiedoc Version: 0.8.0-2 Installed-Size: 1546 Maintainer: Vanessa Gutierrez vane...@gmail.com Architecture: all Suggests: www-browser Description-en: Debian documentation FOR newbies BY newbies This is a snapshot of the documentation currently being developed by the Debian NewbieDOC project. See http://newbiedoc.berlios.de for the most recent versions, or if you wish to contribute eg by writing or editing articles. . Current release includes: * Help installing Debian GNU/Linux * Help installing software in Debian GNU/Linux * Help managing a Debian system * Help with network and internet * Help with multimedia in Debian * Help with printing * Help with programming . The documentation will be installed in /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc, and newbiedoc(1) is a script that starts a browser on the newbiedoc collection. Homepage: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/newbiedoc/ Description-md5: 8b0e6d835828f08d2753b73ac2946dc6 Tag: interface::web, made-of::html, role::documentation, suite::debian Section: doc Priority: optional Filename: pool/main/n/newbiedoc/newbiedoc_0.8.0-2_all.deb Size: 735608 MD5sum: 08673ec354bbcd5c6bbbaaf7bb476457 SHA1: 323e1ba78238af957cd902aefecea780a539627b SHA256: 35b953355276d80746019421224d897719dae9c5886b1c6998e8929b7df8f62b arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120613212125.6a06d...@celsius.lan
Re: what causes these apt-get/aptitude errors?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:48:44 -0400, Neal wrote in message 201206131348.44297.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu: Any idea what would cause the following errors and how to recover? The system was fine until I installed updates recently. -- (...) E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. -- The system's in pre-deployment and won't hurt to reinstall it. But it'd be nice to know why this happened. ..network problems. Fix those, and try again. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120613212439.50fdd...@celsius.lan
Re: books on debian of a beginner nature?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:32:54 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message pine.bsf.4.64.1206131724530.50...@server1.shellworld.net: ahem, I think I said, but it may have been lost in the mayhem of ideas. 1. I seek a single book, one that can either be read in the standard fashion, it has pages, or b, exists as a single file that can be read entirely off line...think of say a word processor like wordperfect, or a plain text reader. ..uh-oh ;o), I thought you would prefer and over or between the options. as I have no debian system at all yet, and want this information both before that install takes place now, and available in a format that need not require an installation, I think the information below does not fit my request. Karen ..worst part of newbiedoc is its age, Etch was 5 years ago. ..you may want http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ , details http://debian-handbook.info/about-the-book/ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120614071857.77eb4...@celsius.lan
Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:23 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message pine.bsf.4.64.1206131456410.45...@server1.shellworld.net: oh my...what have I started? ..nobody told you what happens when you toss lighted matches down gas tank holes? Hint, it's usually audible. ;o) put a creative challenge to this bunch and the ideas flow. *however* I have the equipment I have for this project, no more, so will need the the knowledgable human first with extra if I am going to spend energy this way. Honestly, I remain amazed, but there is only so much possible WITH this present box, its a Pentium II, which I admit I felt should have allowed for DVD booting from usb but it does not. ..pentium II or III (2 or 3) or both? Very old, you could buy a new machine for the money you'll save on power. On the other hand, these slow old boxes will help heat your home. ..a bigger question is, does a Pentium II have enough omph to run an audio installer? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120614074644.13177...@celsius.lan
Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in message 20120612100122.GJ30016@desktop: The DVD is a USB device. She cannot boot from USB on the machine she wishes to install Debian to. ..she can. She must put grub on her hard disk, or get e.g. the http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ on a cd, and then boot into grub. ..once in grub, Karen wants to issue:root ( and then hit the tab button twice, to get grub's suggestions on what it can boot. If that fails, take a standard grub meny entry and strip it down upwards from the bottom until the root ( and try again from there, grub 2 is more modular than legacy grub, and I don't remember if I've ever done this in anger from grub-2. ..tutorials etc: http://wiki.debian.org/Grub Some other distro's points of views: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120612165243.5d9b5...@celsius.lan
Re: Recommend System requirements for Linux Debian
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:08:28 +0200, Marcin wrote in message 1339366108.2085.9.camel@Mint-Desktop: I installed Squeeze in august 2010, when squeeze was a testing distro. Now after dist-upgrades I got Wheezy, so I am using testing distro. There was time when I mixed repo from wheezy and squeeze so maybe that's why is something wrong. People tell me this is low memory problem. But I testing the same system on 2 cores CPU with 4GB of RAM and 4 cores CPU with 8GB of RAM (32bit Debian detected all 8 GB RAM, ..are you trying to tell us you run 32bit Debian on 64bit cpu's? how is it possible?) but system still boot up slow, and slow starting apps. On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 17:47 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: Are you running Debian/Squeeze or Wheezy? Stable/Squeeze uses the older init system which starts things in sequence instead of in parallel. I believe Wheezy is moving toward a more modern startup system. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120611030446.72bf8...@celsius.lan
Re: Random system freezes - need your input
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:02:36 +0200, Matthias wrote in message cabo4i4zuz_0oeh6oeoz0reo3l2qt6wmwdwzlmdjuts24mjh...@mail.gmail.com: Hello everybody It happened again, and yes this time I was using nouveau. # lshw -c video *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: G84 [Quadro FX 1700] vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:01:00.0 version: a1 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0 resources: irq:16 memory:e200-e2ff memory:c000-dfff(prefetchable) memory:e000-e1ff ioport:2000(size=128) That means I can exclude the video driver from the list of potential culprits... /var/log/messages: Jun 1 14:09:23 celsius kernel: [ 657.427962] CE: hpet increasing min_delta_ns to 40226 nsec Jun 1 14:38:55 celsius kernel: [ 2429.379636] nautilus: sending ioctl 2285 to a partition! == reboot Jun 1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: imklog 4.6.4, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Jun 1 17:48:36 celsius rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd swVersion=4.6.4 x-pid=1317 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] (re)start Jun 1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset Jun 1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu /var/log/debug: Jun 1 16:41:16 celsius kernel: [ 9770.619675] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:0b:6b:db:1f:f1 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=1) Jun 1 16:41:16 celsius kernel: [ 9770.619679] wlan0: associated == reboot Jun 1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] e820 update range: - 0001 (usable) == (reserved) Jun 1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] MTRR default type: uncachable Any ideas? ..bootflags and latency? We'll probably need more info on your current setup with nouveau. ..is this your post? http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:6SYWe3USA_kJ:kb.datencamp.org/entry/86/+%22product:+G84+%5BQuadro+FX+1700%5D%22+%22configuration:+driver%3Dnouveau%22+%22latency%3D0%22cd=2hl=noct=clnkgl=no ..more hits here: http://www.google.no/search?ix=acbsourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=%22product%3A+G84+%5BQuadro+FX+1700%5D%22+%22configuration%3A+driver%3Dnouveau%22+%22latency%3D%22#hl=nosclient=psy-abq=%22G84+%5BQuadro+FX+1700%5D%22+%22nouveau%22oq=%22G84+%5BQuadro+FX+1700%5D%22+%22nouveau%22aq=faqi=aql=gs_l=serp.3...5835.8481.4.9105.9.9.0.0.0.0.138.725.7j1.8.0...0.0.LhOvNp2ShFEpbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbfp=2d65dd964f5bcc75ix=acbbiw=1170bih=715 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120601172747.4ad72...@celsius.lan
Re: libmx-1.0-2 : Depends: libmx-common (= 1.4.5-1) but 1.4.6-1 is installed
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:19:06 +0800, Hor wrote in message 4fc8188a.4050...@gmail.com: On 05/30/2012 10:23 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..ok, since you're not pointing me back to your post, I assume you solved it, and since your solution may help somebody else here, you may want to post your solution with a nice tag like [Solved], was:$your-subject-on-your-original-post. ;o) The problem was not solved. There wasn't any feedback to my last post as below: ..ok, start a new thread on it, this thread is about libmx-1.0-2. Is this bug (Bug#665000: SUMO2: blank screen after load radeon module) related to my issue? As I am using Sumo chip too AMD Llano A6-3670 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics stepping 00 root@szechuan:~#: dmesg | grep -i sumo [ 7.451590] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (SUMO 0x1002:0x964A 0x1043:0x84C8). [ 7.453403] [drm] Loading SUMO Microcode -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602001904.3e5e3...@celsius.lan
Re: ad-hoc wireless connection with Netgear N150 USB adapter
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 21:12:49 +0200, ACro wrote in message 4fc91431.60...@bluebottle.com: # /etc/network/interfaces - [machine#1] auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.15.2 [machine#2] auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.15.2 ..maybe 192.168.15.3 on #2? ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602002938.64ee3...@celsius.lan
Re: Installing Debian on Acer Aspire One
On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:28:45 +0100, Brian wrote in message 20120529082845.GA2847@desktop: On Tue 29 May 2012 at 07:52:21 +0200, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: I have move a step forward: I used the testing netinstall ISO, copied to my memory stick using cat image.iso /dev/sdX. The installation is able to recognize my HDD now :-) Great news... but it is still failing. After partitioning the HDD, the Debian base system could be installed, but I get an error about installing busybox from the CD-ROM (I imagine that it refers to the memory stick). Is it anything like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627488 ? A stable businesscard iso from the CD section on this page: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ allows testing to be installed and should avoid the busybox problem. ..after that you simply swap wheezy/testing for sid/unstable and dist-upgrade, and since we don't usually want newbies to do that, I leave the precise where and how as an exercise. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120530161315.0bc95...@celsius.lan
Re: libmx-1.0-2 : Depends: libmx-common (= 1.4.5-1) but 1.4.6-1 is installed
On Tue, 29 May 2012 13:07:40 +0800, Hor wrote in message 4fc4599c.5080...@gmail.com: On 05/29/2012 06:03 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..did you, or somebody else ask for help on an AMD64 or a Radeon card, 3 or 4 weeks back, cc:ing me and 2 other guys here? (I lost track of it because of the cc:ing.) Yes, it's me. ..ok, since you're not pointing me back to your post, I assume you solved it, and since your solution may help somebody else here, you may want to post your solution with a nice tag like [Solved], was:$your-subject-on-your-original-post. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120530162357.7be3b...@celsius.lan
Re: [OT] Annoyances
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Re: laptop battery cycling
On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:16:53 +0200, steef wrote in message 4fc31855.9080...@home.nl: acpi -b (?) ..I raise you i: arnt@celsius:/tmp$ acpi -bi Battery 0: Unknown, 91% Battery 0: design capacity 5200 mAh, last full capacity 5200 mAh = 100% arnt@celsius:/tmp$ ..acpi -V and acpi -h are also handy. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120528225506.521af...@celsius.lan
Re: libmx-1.0-2 : Depends: libmx-common (= 1.4.5-1) but 1.4.6-1 is installed
On Mon, 28 May 2012 22:42:32 +0800, Hor wrote in message 4fc38ed8.1030...@gmail.com: Hi All, Seeking advice from anyone on this issue of libmx-1.0-2 : Depends: libmx-common (= 1.4.5-1) but 1.4.6-1 is installed. Many thanks. Debian Sid AMD64 ..did you, or somebody else ask for help on an AMD64 or a Radeon card, 3 or 4 weeks back, cc:ing me and 2 other guys here? (I lost track of it because of the cc:ing.) Kernel: Linux szechuan ..what|who is|are szechuan here, a Chinese distro, or the host name on your own box? 3.2.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon May 21 17:45:41 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux libmx-common Version: 1.4.6-1 libmx-1.0-2:amd64 Version -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120529000340.2325b...@celsius.lan
..solved: useless pedantic argumentative noise: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:29:55 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpqbb3$dh7$6...@dough.gmane.org: On Sat, 26 May 2012 01:48:15 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [...] I'm just trying you to understand what the problem of the OP _is_ but I'm starting to feel wasted with this and given the emptiness of your last comments, you neither seem to be interested on this. Game over. ..it is, it is. Now, you may have missed a post (or 2?) in this thread, so here is where it all starts with OP's post: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/05/msg01735.html -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120526130927.769bb...@celsius.lan
Re: Help identifying an old wireless card
On Fri, 25 May 2012 09:00:21 -0800, Greg wrote in message 201205250900.21839.gomadtr...@gci.net: On Friday 25 May 2012 7:34:07 am Brian wrote: On Fri 25 May 2012 at 10:46:29 -0400, Michael Mehrazar wrote: Andrei, Thank you. It's attached. Still no wireless card in there. 'lsusb' if it is a USB device. If the a card is broken somehow, , ls* won't show the device, modules will not load etc. ..we don't know that yet. OP, put your dmesg on pastebin and post the link here, if lsusb fails to list your device. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120526013605.18dfa...@celsius.lan
OT: useless pedantic argumentative noise: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:00:17 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jplie1$a15$1...@dough.gmane.org: On Wed, 23 May 2012 20:59:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:41:06 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpj7fi$kr$2...@dough.gmane.org: ..that probably depends on the usefulness of your definition of $subject. ;o) There's no much room for guessing: ..no? ;o) Sure not. What's what you understand? ..er, why you carry onlike this? ;o) Withdrawn, yer'onnor! ;oD $subject is the subject of this thread which -regardless its usefulness- states: *** Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list *** ..ok, _that's_ your definition. ;o) My definition? No, it's what it can be read in the subject. ..$subject!=subject, and if you argue otherwise, you'll face a wee chicken-and-egg problem, one of us came here before the other one of us. ;o) Bug or feature? Does aptitude changelog need the corresponding deb-src entry in order to avoid the error message (E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list)? ..IMO both, 1.) a feature, because it does this thing differently than apt-get, which offers a viable workaround when a bug hits it, and 2.) a but, because aptitude's error message suggestion does not work her, because of a second bug. We've covered this, no need to get too dizzy looping this bird over and over again. So you neither know. Okay, then please don't say _there's_ a bug ;-) ..we just disagree. No big deal. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120526014815.2fa6c...@celsius.lan
Re: Dying Iceweasel.
On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:06:41 -0700, Peter wrote in message 4fbe5c91.8070...@shaw.ca: Two systems here with current Squeeze. One is a Compaq Armada E500; the other a generic desktop machine with a Foxconn board. Try this in each. In iceweasel, google site:skype.com create account and attempt to open the account creation page. The URI is too long to mention. In the Foxconn machine, the page opens with no problem. In the Armada, the spinning animation appears for a few milliseconds and iceweasel dies abruptly. ..a WAG: 'aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree \ aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree ' and try the page again, could be they require a new flash version. In 2005 there was a thread about removing ~/.mozilla to fix a dying browser. More recently, there was a thread including a suggestion to try this. ICEWEASEL_DSP=none iceweasel Anyone care to offer ideas about my current problem? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120525030202.47bb0...@celsius.lan
Re: Word Perfect 5.1 under Free Dos
On Thu, 24 May 2012 23:15:02 +0100, Roger wrote in message 20120524221502.gh22...@codelibre.net: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 04:25:23PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: Is this possible now? Installing Free Dos loading in a copy of Word Perfect 5.1 that can also use the system printer under CUPS? You can certainly drive the system printer using DOSEMU. However, how well this will work depends on what type of printer you're using. If you're using a printer supported natively by WordPerfect, then you can just get DOSEMU to run lpr -oraw and it will get passed through without any processing, and behave pretty much as if it was hooked up directly to the parallel port (albeit without direct parallel port access--it's faked by the emulator). However, if you have a modern printer which needs special CUPS drivers, which can't be driven by WordPerfect directly, you'll basically need to see if you can find a PostScript printer driver for WordPerfect to use--then it will send the PostScript directly to CUPS, which CUPS will happily print one any type of printer. You might need to fiddle with timeouts--DOSEMU can't always tell when jobs end, so it ends the job after a delay. WRT WordPerfect itself, can't see why it wouldn't work; I've run plenty of software in DOSEMU without trouble. If FreeDOS doesn't work, then try a copy of real MS-DOS, PC-DOS or DR-DOS. ..and it probably doesn't need real hardware either, run it in a virtual machine and tell us how it worked for you. :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120525030635.48f9d...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:50:21 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpitfd$kr$1...@dough.gmane.org: On Wed, 23 May 2012 00:13:20 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:36:51 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpgirj$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org: On Tue, 22 May 2012 19:26:49 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:04:15 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpgddv$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org: Yes, the one listed in Debian BTS that handles the OP's issue (see $subject). Thanks :-) ..you too have been here long enough now to not trust those too far. ;o) Sorry, but no bug number means there's no real bug: before we can call it a bug we have to prove there's a problem ;-) ..aye, I was referring to your over-reliance on what you called $subject, you have not only seen, how wildly some of these threads morph everywhere else than what each OP asks etc for. But the question is valid, the message is present so then, can we consider the $subject a bug or a feature? ..that probably depends on the usefulness of your definition of $subject. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120523193316.7342d...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:41:06 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpj7fi$kr$2...@dough.gmane.org: On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:33:16 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:50:21 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpitfd$kr$1...@dough.gmane.org: But the question is valid, the message is present so then, can we consider the $subject a bug or a feature? ..that probably depends on the usefulness of your definition of $subject. ;o) There's no much room for guessing: ..no? ;o) $subject is the subject of this thread which -regardless its usefulness- states: *** Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list *** ..ok, _that's_ your definition. ;o) Bug or feature? Does aptitude changelog need the corresponding deb-src entry in order to avoid the error message (E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list)? ..IMO both, 1.) a feature, because it does this thing differently than apt-get, which offers a viable workaround when a bug hits it, and 2.) a but, because aptitude's error message suggestion does not work her, because of a second bug. We've covered this, no need to get too dizzy looping this bird over and over again. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120523205943.03e03...@celsius.lan
Re: Code of conduct (was ... Re: need help on using ffmpeg for video grab)
On Wed, 23 May 2012 00:24:37 +1200, Chris wrote in message 20120522122437.GC25963@tal: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:48:49PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 22 mai 12, 02:49:23, Chris Bannister wrote: Sorry, I don't see it that way. I don't see debian-user as italicthe first port of call and if you don't get any help ***THEN*** google and try to find out where the ***ACTUAL*** place to get support is./italic IMVHO it is entirely apropiate for somebody to ask questions to a specific application packaged for Debian given that the Debian package may be patched or compiled different than the standard options. Good point. Although you find out soon enough about that sort of thing from the other users. Also, some upstreams are even quite hostile to The Debian Way (tm) regarding stable releases and the first advice might be to compile the latest version. Even if running sid you may be a few releases behind[1]. If you think you've found a bug sure, you'll normally get asked to compile against latest git/svn/cvs to see if it still exists. The Debian BTS also has bugs which are signed off as we believe the bug is fixed in the latest upload ... etc. Not to sure about hostile to The Debian Way (tm), I know the exim developers and I think the Ruby developers are like that. But for general usage questions, tips, etc, you can't really beat the actual mailing list for the program. Add to this that even the general Debian[2] advice is to report bugs in the Debian BTS and let the maintainer forward bugs upstream if needed. Yeah, for bugs, but I'm referring to general usage questions. ..these too may be caused by The Debian Way[TM] of doing things. [1] but I do expect sid users to be able to help themselves :) [2] except packages that are prone to receive *a lot* of bug reports, like Gnome, KDE, Iceweasel, etc. Apparently they're swamped with unhelpful bug reports. :( ..some of which are caused by unhelpful responses here to _our_ newbie newcomers. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120522192152.03970...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:04:15 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpgddv$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org: Yes, the one listed in Debian BTS that handles the OP's issue (see $subject). Thanks :-) ..you too have been here long enough now to not trust those too far. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120522192649.7f4bb...@celsius.lan
Re: ..which CAD apps, was: OT: Google chrome stable question
On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:06:57 -0500, John wrote in message 1337641617.23241.4.ca...@beast.johnwfoster.com: On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 23:34 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:00:47 -0500, John wrote in message 1337630447.30951.5.ca...@beast.johnwfoster.com: I do use Windows 7 pro for some things but not as a regular thing. Just for some CAD apps I need. ..which CAD apps? I use 3D Design Home Architect on Windows7pro. Tried to run it under wine but did not perform as I need. ..I tried to google it, and I will be _very_ surprised if your Win7 install of it, isn't an attack vector, all I find is cracked oem torrent downloads with cheap license and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., and of course reviews, not too impressive, and _years_ back. ..who owns, or published this software, Total? Brøderbund only made games, no profits and went out of business, _years_ ago. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120522202927.18556...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:36:51 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpgirj$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org: On Tue, 22 May 2012 19:26:49 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:04:15 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpgddv$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org: Yes, the one listed in Debian BTS that handles the OP's issue (see $subject). Thanks :-) ..you too have been here long enough now to not trust those too far. ;o) Sorry, but no bug number means there's no real bug: before we can call it a bug we have to prove there's a problem ;-) ..aye, I was referring to your over-reliance on what you called $subject, you have not only seen, how wildly some of these threads morph everywhere else than what each OP asks etc for. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120523001320.4442d...@celsius.lan
Re: Random system freezes - need your input
On Mon, 21 May 2012 10:18:22 +0200, Matthias wrote in message cabo4i4wbsdbt8vgl+b++ubypfba23yrkgljjerhhi1fc43l...@mail.gmail.com: 2012/5/20 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de: Am Sonntag, 20. Mai 2012 schrieb Matthias Guentert: I am really running out of ideas here... and becoming unsure if the nvidia driver really is the culprit. I will switch back to the nv driver and test for another month or so... big chill! Again: Have you ever tried the nouveau driver? Thanks for your reply. But no, I have not tried the nouveau driver and I won't. The reason is that I don't want to introduce a new unknown variable until I am sure wehther the nvidia module is causing this or it's really some odd hardware fault. I will switch back to nv. As debian is well known for it's stability, I assume this driver has been tested thoroughly. If my system is then running fine for about a month one can assume that the nvidia driver is the culprit. ..so, will you try nouveau now, or, do we call you troll when you come whining for help next month? No if or but reasons, yes or no, now, is _all_ I ask. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120521125904.60ca3...@celsius.lan
..trolls?, was: Random system freezes - need your input
On Mon, 21 May 2012 06:27:42 -0500, Christofer wrote in message caoevnytq6netamd9bqhkgmoxh0ghlq4zal8xqie1fcbjs-x...@mail.gmail.com: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2012 10:18:22 +0200, Matthias wrote in message cabo4i4wbsdbt8vgl+b++ubypfba23yrkgljjerhhi1fc43l...@mail.gmail.com: 2012/5/20 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de: Again: Have you ever tried the nouveau driver? Thanks for your reply. But no, I have not tried the nouveau driver and I won't. The reason is that I don't want to introduce a new unknown variable until I am sure wehther the nvidia module is causing this or it's really some odd hardware fault. ..so, will you try nouveau now, or, do we call you troll when you come whining for help next month? No if or but reasons, yes or no, now, is _all_ I ask. Did you not read his message? I've quoted the relevant section (from your own email, no less). He's not going to try noveau until he's determined that the system is once again stable using nv, ensuring that the cause of his issue was the proprietary nvidia driver and not a hardware problem with his machine. I don't want to introduce a new unknown variable until I am sure wehther [sic] the nividia module is causing this or it's really some odd hardware fault. How is this line of troubleshooting effort in any way trollish? ..another troll? We asked him to try nouveau to help him diagnose _his_ problem. If it works, fine. If it doesn't, fine, we will then know it doesn't work for him. Instead, he refuses to try it, after having wasted _our_ time on _his_ alleged problem on what looks like endlifed closed source. ..so I ask him to reconsider his refusal and try a boot with nouveau, once, and tell us what happens with that driver, or, a simple No. ..we have enough trolls here, they waste our time with BS nonsense to prove e.g. nouveau doesn't work. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120521135759.17f58...@celsius.lan
Re: Random system freezes - need your input
On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:30:37 +0200, Matthias wrote in message cf8c0e23-d1ec-4131-8f63-b8a0b6791...@gmail.com: Am 21.05.2012 um 12:59 schrieb Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net: ..so, will you try nouveau now, or, do we call you troll when you come whining for help next month? No if or but reasons, yes or no, now, is _all_ I No ..I hear you loud and clear. If you are still interessted in starting a flame war try at least to stay professional and do it ml-offline... ..we'll see next month. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120521155543.46d99...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:00:40 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jpdlao$leu$7...@dough.gmane.org: On Mon, 21 May 2012 00:34:18 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:03:11 +0200, Tom wrote in message CAOdo=Sx_u1QqE5G=kzv1kz5cw0zxarkwuadw6c6xsypzkzz...@mail.gmail.com: On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:51:37 -0400, Tom wrote in message CAOdo=Sy+8WL1a90H1rAqyhhBkmsG_3Pjw4t=e0icyevzucn...@mail.gmail.com: Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries. ..aye, it's because apt-get and aptitude does these things _differently_, and that's handy when a bug in one program makes you try a work-around using the other. This thread is about aptitude and and two bugs that it seems to have when using ...changelog..., not about apt-get. Do you suggest that someone use vi when they have a problem with emacs? Or GNOME and KDE? Or ...? You could've also suggested reading changelogs on packages.debian.org as a workaround, it would nonetheless not have helped with aptitude. Or even, suggested that he switch to Fedora because rpm -q --changelog ... works. ..in principle, yes, until the bug is fixed, that un-dramatic work-around is _precisely_ what's recommended by the aptitude bug fix team. ;o) Would you mind to send the bug# for this aptitude issue? Thanks. ..one? ;o) Google found me these 3290 in a 1/3 of a second: http://www.google.no/search?sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=Debian+bug+aptitude+%22apt-get+changelog%22+work e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/824708 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120521204217.0c5c8...@celsius.lan
..which CAD apps, was: OT: Google chrome stable question
On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:00:47 -0500, John wrote in message 1337630447.30951.5.ca...@beast.johnwfoster.com: I do use Windows 7 pro for some things but not as a regular thing. Just for some CAD apps I need. ..which CAD apps? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120521233406.5cbfd...@celsius.lan
Re: How to install drivers for this nVidia graphics card?
On Sun, 20 May 2012 08:35:34 +0530, aditya wrote in message CAJeCY3wTT67dN80pGEKyDxbB=_avw=foc1hmkxdhbm_ljaf...@mail.gmail.com: (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00@00:02:0 (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found ..you have no Section Screen in your xorg.conf. Fix that. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120521002205.7a6c5...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:03:11 +0200, Tom wrote in message CAOdo=Sx_u1QqE5G=kzv1kz5cw0zxarkwuadw6c6xsypzkzz...@mail.gmail.com: On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:51:37 -0400, Tom wrote in message CAOdo=Sy+8WL1a90H1rAqyhhBkmsG_3Pjw4t=e0icyevzucn...@mail.gmail.com: Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries. ..aye, it's because apt-get and aptitude does these things _differently_, and that's handy when a bug in one program makes you try a work-around using the other. This thread is about aptitude and and two bugs that it seems to have when using ...changelog..., not about apt-get. Do you suggest that someone use vi when they have a problem with emacs? Or GNOME and KDE? Or ...? You could've also suggested reading changelogs on packages.debian.org as a workaround, it would nonetheless not have helped with aptitude. Or even, suggested that he switch to Fedora because rpm -q --changelog ... works. ..in principle, yes, until the bug is fixed, that un-dramatic work-around is _precisely_ what's recommended by the aptitude bug fix team. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120521003418.1fe1e...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Sat, 19 May 2012 03:05:03 -0400, Tom wrote in message CAOdo=SxrT0Qr-4L7ug5qLdtz7XTe4qcoA=rsjlx1oj2vq8y...@mail.gmail.com: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org: You have no source repo listed. deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines. True, but aptitude changelog ... seems to require deb-src ... entries: Without deb-src ... # aptitude changelog grub-pc Err Changelog of grub-pc E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed. E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc With deb-src ... # aptitude changelog grub-pc Err Changelog of grub-pc E: Changelog download failed: 404 Not Found E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc ..aye. Now try 'apt-get changelog grub-pc ', both ways. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120519184138.79c96...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:13:52 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jp7ko0$27j$6...@dough.gmane.org: On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:25 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org: You have no source repo listed. deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines. (...) If you want to get rid of the above error, yes _you do_ (see Tom's comment) ;-) ..really? ;o) root@celsius:~# apt-get changelog grub-pc Get:1 Changelog for grub-pc (http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/grub2/grub2_1.99-21/changelog) [134 kB] Fetched 134 kB in 3s (38.5 kB/s) root@celsius:~# grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://192.168.1.140/debian sid main contrib non-free root@celsius:~# Anyway, I guess that can be a comestic error, the main problem was already reported in BTS (#669569). Greetings, -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120519184734.50e0f...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:51:37 -0400, Tom wrote in message CAOdo=Sy+8WL1a90H1rAqyhhBkmsG_3Pjw4t=e0icyevzucn...@mail.gmail.com: Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries. ..aye, it's because apt-get and aptitude does these things _differently_, and that's handy when a bug in one program makes you try a work-around using the other. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120519203056.49070...@celsius.lan
Re: Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot find a free VT
On Thu, 17 May 2012 12:14:01 +0800, Hor wrote in message 4fb47b09.9080...@gmail.com: Is amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run driver the same with the non free debianised fglrx driver ? amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run uses fglrx version 8.961 ..I dunno, I only use the free|open source X drivers. Guys? lspci result under amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run driver: ..guys, this below is, or is not normal with fglrx??? Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6530D] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop+ ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- Reset- FastB2B- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- Reset- FastB2B- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- Reset- FastB2B- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- Reset- FastB2B- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120518152029.4bd28...@celsius.lan
Re: Can anyone please reproduce this crash in X on Sid?
On Thu, 17 May 2012 09:22:31 +0100, Anthony wrote in message 20120517082231.gb5...@acampbell.org.uk: On 17 May 2012, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..ok, what sort of networking do you run? Just connected via cables with static links. ..ok, and not even dhcp? ..ok, they may both be alive, despite the zero response. No blinkenlight trio? (CapLock+NumLock+ScrollLock LED's) Nothing visible when that happens. ..any LED response when you hit any of the lock buttons? Not even after you yank and plug in the keybord again? up. ..the 3 tail -f $logfile ideas; 1, over ssh until ssh breaks, 2, over the grub serial console, or, 3, log to your syslog server on your 3'rd box, to capture log files when you try crash X again. Can you spell this out please? I don/t understand. ..the idea is capture as much log etc debug info as possible, to another box before the network dies, and I'm not sure which way will yield us the most debug info, hence the 3 ideas. ..once one or more of these log traps are set up, you crash X to see what news can be passed on to the bug fixers. Incidentally, in the last couple of days I made a second installation of Debian on a spare section of disk. In stable everything worked correctly, as expected. I upgraded to Testing and it still worked. I then upgraded to Sid and the problem reappeared. I really can't believe I am the only user finding this. Is it a bug in X on Sid? ..;o) Sid is AKA unstable, and for a reason, to get the bugs you find, reported and fixed. (I originally reported it as a bug in i3 but it is not confined to that wm.) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120518154012.4a434...@celsius.lan
Re: something about rm
On Thu, 17 May 2012 20:38:40 +0300, Panayiotis wrote in message 4fb537a0.3090...@gmail.com: I suspect that file recovery is his current priority. It's a she. :-) It's? Shouldn't that be He's a she? ;) :-D :-D :-D ..that I gather would depend on the exact timing of the chain of events in this, er, operation (or accident?), even She's a she? might be wrong in a few conceivable scenarios in this post-9/11 era. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120518155534.787db...@celsius.lan
Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)
On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:22:28 +0100, Lisi wrote in message 201205181222.28673.lisi.re...@gmail.com: I understand American English. I usually do not understand Scottish ..clearly, Kircaldian is a Scottish language, but is it an... English ...language? Yes, I have been there, I mean, Italians, Arabs, Russians etc understand and appreciate the fact that I may have a wee language challenge, and, as a nice bonus, they will even honor my pleas of speaking _s_l_o_w_l_y_ so I can understand their 4'th and 5'th etc words to me, too. :o) ..now, Yorkshirian is _much_ easier, and going by my standard on Kircaldian, it is clearly an English language, it _sounds_ like some Norwegian trying _hard_ to speak English, and since my Norwegian is of little help trying to understand it, I'd be inclined to argue that Yorkshirian is English English. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120518180841.13edc...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:45:11 +0300, Adrian wrote in message 4fb67c97.9030...@gmail.com: Hi. Anybody else experience this? # aptitude changelog ntp Err Changelog of ntp E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed. E: Couldn't find a changelog for ntp My sources.list: http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/ stable main non-free I saw an older bug report regarding this [1]. Has the issue come back? 1. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587775 ..nope. Your first line needs to first say deb , then comes an uri, in your duh case http://cdn.debian.org; etc, like in your other working lines. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120518190051.4dbc5...@celsius.lan
Re: how to practice.
On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:23:04 +0100, keith wrote in message 20120518192304.52e1b58f00613dcfa96cc...@gmail.com: What I have done since my first days of learning 'DOS', is to keep a small notebook at hand jot down everything I think I might want to use into it. Not the basic stuff, but things like how to configure various services, etc. ..an alternative notebook idea; set up a cron job to mail yourself the diff of todays .bash_history and yesterdays command line history, and, make an habit of reading and commenting on it while you still remember why and how etc you did whatever you did today. ..kept in its own mail archive, database etc, your command line history will eventually do for you what you used to come pleading to d-u for, and I guess this new habit can lift d-u to a nice new level. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120518211637.13c21...@celsius.lan
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org: You have no source repo listed. deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines. Which again begs the why Debian at all etc philosophical etc cans of worms. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120518212525.69c6e...@celsius.lan
Re: Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot find a free VT
On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:03:12 +0800, Hor wrote in message 4fb25410.5050...@gmail.com: Hi All, Would be grateful if anyone could provide feedback on the below, thanks. After installing proprietary driver amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run on Sid amd64, both console and X cannot be started. All was left after booting is a blinking - prompt. ..this isn't a kernel panic? What happens _immediately_before_ your blinking dash? Xorg log as below. ..this is relevant only if it was written between your boot and your blinking dash. I then ssh into this pc from another and removed this driver. Managed to get gnome 3 back but under fallback mode. Previously was able to be on gnome3 standard mode. ..your Xorg log is gnome 3 under fallback mode? package: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 x86_64 Debian version: 3.2.17-1 package: xserver-xorg-core: version: 2:1.12.1-2 package: xorg-server version: 1:7.6+13 package: fglrx-driver version: 1:12-4-1 ..first things first: Does this fglrx driver even support your card? ..please post your output of: 'lspci |grep VGA '. If that shows an ATI card, we will probably want to see your dmesg. ..what happens if you try use the ati driver instead? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120516133246.774c6...@celsius.lan
Re: Slow system and switching tabs on google chome
On Tue, 15 May 2012 18:09:57 -0500, Odair wrote in message CADYDv-AVZ5mwrGigCchXeGSr7D+Zq6V=dyi_0xhtkcrzg3x...@mail.gmail.com: Hi, After an update at 20-05-2012, my system is slow down specialy when I switch tabs ..how _many_ tabs? ;o) What happens when you kill flash? (Killing flash can be done both with chromium's own task manager or with htop, hit t to get the threaded view, F3 and flash to find the cpu or ram hogs, paint them yellow thespace bar and kill'em with k, arrow up to 9 if you wanna genocide it.) on Google Chrome, even Chromium, the graphics efects also get down speed specialy kde-window-back effect. ..debug ideas he should try, anyone? I'm using Debian Wheezy i386, with Nvidia GeForce 6200 ..this is old enough to have been endlifed by Nvidea. ..try it with the nouveau driver, and with the nvidea-legacy drivers. and the latest propietary driver, also I was updated the driver from version 290 to 295. (it's maybe a bug of new libcairo?) ..maybe. Guys? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120516141419.7c40d...@celsius.lan
Re: need help on using ffmpeg for audio grab
On Wed, 16 May 2012 01:22:24 -0400, Long wrote in message CAB-gxZBY2jYCp=bsupp+s_z-rktykwr4yjyh-yxaj6ngpcd...@mail.gmail.com: Another application shows: ..it wouldn't by any chance be Microsoft Media Player? Device 00: Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev 4 /dev/dsp Port 00: vol Port 01: line Port 02: mic Port 03: cd Port 04: line1 Port 05: phin Port 06: phout Port 07: video I enter the command: ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 1 -i hw:0 t1.mpg then I test t1.mpg with ffplay, there's no sound, the line is straight ..you a little more than seem to work on the assumtion that we know everything about you. Which would be wise if you think we are e.g. a Chinese government intelligence service. Some of us are. And some not. So, if you want our help, you need to tell us what we need to know about your box, e.g. which distro, what apps etc, so we can help diagnose and help fix your problem. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120516142832.7717e...@celsius.lan
Re: Can anyone please reproduce this crash in X on Sid?
On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:46:38 +0100, Anthony wrote in message 20120516074638.ga2...@acampbell.org.uk: I am running Sid on two computers, one with Nouveau, the other with Radeon. In both, if I kill the process corresponding to X *from within X*, either the machine freezes completely (Radeon) ..how? Ssh too freezes? It no longer responds even to ping etc? ..are these 2 boxes on wicd etc style networking that dies with X and the desktop? or shuts down completely (Nouveau), ..it powers off??? If I kill it from a tty terminal there is no problem. ..and what happens if you try to kill X over ssh from the other box? Is this something peculiar in my setup or can other people running Sid reproduce it? It happens with several different window managers (i3, dwm, icewm); I don't know about desktop managers. It does not happen in Squeeze. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120516143642.06840...@celsius.lan
Re: How to install drivers for this nVidia graphics card?
On Wed, 16 May 2012 15:42:35 +0530, aditya wrote in message CAJeCY3xZ5JbNZKqvFs5BBZnXmnfoWWfaw-=nlzeqkpgfhes...@mail.gmail.com: Hello everyone, Can you give me an easy way to install drivers for this card *Nvidia GeForce GT520M*? ..is this the card that was considered mid-level in 2006, or the 48 core card that was released as entry level in 2010? I googled. ..in the latter case, the nouveau driver might work. I'm on a laptop. I've tried many things, including this command: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-glx from an answer I got on StackOverflow. Everything I do results in X failing to start. In fact I just re-installed X and now it refuses to start at all. So are there a set of commands I can use to simply install the driver? My primary need is to raise the resolution of the monitor... ..links to your dmesg and to your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, pls. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120516145029.1733b...@celsius.lan
Re: Can anyone please reproduce this crash in X on Sid?
On Wed, 16 May 2012 17:16:21 +0100, Anthony wrote in message 20120516161621.ga4...@acampbell.org.uk: On 16 May 2012, Arnt Karlsen wrote: In both, if I kill the process corresponding to X *from within X*, either the machine freezes completely (Radeon) ..how? Ssh too freezes? It no longer responds even to ping etc? Yes, no response to ping. ..are these 2 boxes on wicd etc style networking that dies with X and the desktop? Nothing like that is running. ..ok, what sort of networking do you run? or shuts down completely (Nouveau), ..it powers off??? The computer is still running but the screen is dead. Whereas, with the Radeon machine, the screen is still lit with the WM background showing. ..ok, they may both be alive, despite the zero response. No blinkenlight trio? (CapLock+NumLock+ScrollLock LED's) If I kill it from a tty terminal there is no problem. ..and what happens if you try to kill X over ssh from the other box? That works too. It's closing from within X itself that locks things up. ..the 3 tail -f $logfile ideas; 1, over ssh until ssh breaks, 2, over the grub serial console, or, 3, log to your syslog server on your 3'rd box, to capture log files when you try crash X again. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120517021729.1f81d...@celsius.lan
Re: chroot or virtual machine
On Tue, 15 May 2012 11:45:58 +0200, David wrote in message 20120515094556.ga4...@pris.crapsteak.org: On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 07:13:23PM +, Ramon Hofer wrote: Hi all I'm planning on setting up my new media server. So I was thinking of putting mythbackend, logitech media server, rtorrent, nfs, samba, etc. into virtual machines. A virtual machine for every server? On what purpose? Is it about security? ..yup, the idea is deny bad code access to as much as possible, it can only kill whatever it can see and touch, such as vm's. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120515125144.22294...@celsius.lan
Re: A Resource Inquiry Regarding Free Speech, Privacy and Technology
On Tue, 15 May 2012 08:59:35 +0300, Andrei wrote in message 20120515055935.GC10116@sid.nuvreauspam: On Ma, 15 mai 12, 15:40:01, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 07:17:47PM -0700, Fiona Causer wrote: Hi There, I am curious if you are the administrator for this site: debian.org/News/weekly/2001/26 I am a researcher / writer involved with a new project whose mission it is to provide accurate and useful information for those interested in the practice of law, whether as a lawyer or paralegal. I recently produced an article detailing the complex relationship between law and technology and the legal implications on personal privacy and free speech. I would love to share this resource with those who might find it useful and am curious of you are the correct person to contact about such a request? Thank you! I'd suggest trying the debian-project mailing list. There is also the debian-news mailing list, but unless it actually is news which involves Debian then I don't think it would be considered relevant, although I could be wrong. debian-news is the list to distribute the news only, see the (outdated) description at http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/ Kind regards, Andrei ..initially, I was surprised you guys responded to what looks like scripted boilerplate spam generated from an old post-9/11 dwn page, but I got curious, and, I found this line at the end of it: rocketworkbench -- Utilities to -- and we're not making this up -- help design experimental rockets. Please use responsibly. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120515130841.696ca...@celsius.lan
Re: Corrupted windows in KDE after last upgrade in debian/testing
On Mon, 14 May 2012 08:13:46 +0200, wzabo...@elektron.elka.pw.edu.pl wrote in message 4fb0a29a.2000...@elektron.elka.pw.edu.pl: On 13.05.2012 15:50, Roman V.Leon. wrote: On 13.05.2012 17:23, wzab wrote: Hi, After last upgrade of my machines, one of them shows strange windows layout in KDE sessions. I attach the photograph (unfortunately in the screen dump performed with import utility the effect was not visible, but import complained about too much input data). What's interesting, problem does not occur in the LXDE session, and it appears only in one of my machines - the one which uses the VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) Other machines - with newer Intel graphics chipsets work normally. Whet can be the reason and cure for this problem? Hello, Wojtek. Please try to use vesa driver in your xorg.conf, it will allow you to make sure that this is a vga driver issue (and maybe not a hardware problem). I've tried vesa driver (as I'm not using xorg.conf, I've simply changed the name of /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so TO /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so.DISABLED to prevent loading)- no corruptions both in LXDE and in KDE sessions. ..`dpkg P xserver-xorg-video-vesa` and try your first|intel configuration again, it looks like your system is trying to setup the intel driver for a vesa config, if that makes any sense to anyone. When I've again restored the original name and restarted X, I've got this corrupted screen back in KDE (in LXDE everything works good). I attach the X.log files for both configurations. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120514135115.4485a...@celsius.lan
Re: Wheezy: VLC player weirdness
On Mon, 14 May 2012 03:28:18 -0700 (PDT), T wrote in message 1336991298.27242.yahoomailclas...@web121905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com: --- On Mon, 5/14/12, Bob s...@homeurl.co.uk wrote: Try opening it from the a shell prompt with the option like below vlc --ffmpeg-threads 1 /home/bob/Videos/lolcat.mkv Let us know if that helps Didn't help but here's the output: $ vlc --ffmpeg-threads 1 file:///some/file/name.mp4 ..try vlc --ffmpeg-threads 0 file:///some/file/name.mp4, the zero here means auto. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120514135758.39f81...@celsius.lan
Re: Corrupted windows in KDE after last upgrade in debian/testing
On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:50:48 +0400, Roman wrote in message 4fafbc38.8030...@meta.ua: On 13.05.2012 17:23, wzab wrote: Hi, After last upgrade of my machines, one of them shows strange windows layout in KDE sessions. I attach the photograph (unfortunately in the screen dump performed with import utility the effect was not visible, but import complained about too much input data). What's interesting, problem does not occur in the LXDE session, and it appears only in one of my machines - the one which uses the VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) ..url to your dmesg? Other machines - with newer Intel graphics chipsets work normally. Whet can be the reason and cure for this problem? Hello, Wojtek. Please try to use vesa driver in your xorg.conf, it will allow you to make sure that this is a vga driver issue (and maybe not a hardware problem). ..note that the vesa driver is only useful for diagnosis and in really bad cases of hardware failures, as a stopgap driver while you get another graphics card airlifted in to whereever your are. ..assuming you have an intel card, you need the firmware-linux (which hauls in firmware-linux-free and firmware-linux-nonfree), libdrm2:i386 (or libdrm2:amd64), libdrm-intel1:i386 (or libdrm-intel1:amd64) and xserver-xorg-video-intel to get these cards working, guys, did I miss anything here? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120513194233.01b08...@celsius.lan
Re: OT: 各類廠商存貨 貨辦 倉底貨 碼頭櫃貨 退港貨等
On Sun, 13 May 2012 13:35:18 +0100, Terence wrote in message CAFG91EOGV5PnX=nF7f8LmbBAskzvnUguitZc6c9KxByfALA=j...@mail.gmail.com: ..I still see no rallies on Fox, CNN or Al-Jaseera pleading for mercy for you? And, there's still a market for tiled ground zero glazing. ;o) I must be doing something wrong, right, and very right! : -) ..um, and you can even correct that wrong by caulking up your home town with crucifixes on the ground, made up by nice tidy 8feet wide by 20feet long for the short horizontal part, and 8feet wide by 40feet long for the long vertical tiles. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120513233858.47713...@celsius.lan
Re: OT: More about GPG signing
On Sat, 12 May 2012 08:51:44 +0200, Ralf wrote in message 1336805504.2741.26.camel@precise: We should create a world of trust, instead of hanging on conspiracy theories. ..theories are harmless, until they become recipes for e.g. Kristallnächt-2.0 on 9/11. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512165632.05c2e...@celsius.lan
Re: OT: 各類廠商存貨 貨辦 倉底貨 碼頭櫃貨 退港貨等
On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:11:50 +0100, Terence wrote in message CAFG91EPrjcheGq+MCsUgNdnBKz0Fwn4VQpOEXCaes_xA4K=a...@mail.gmail.com: Doesn't appear to be in The English Oxford Dictionary. Using the Oxford Dictionary is pretentious, today we're using the urban dictionary :p Nothing like using the uneducated to educate the uneducated! Good luck with that! BTW just who is the we you claim to represent? ..me? 8o) Check your attributions before you present such misrepresentations. ;oD Crack on with the Semi-Literacy Revolution- work hard and the followers won't be even to spell it... Saki -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512170755.48875...@celsius.lan
Re: mounting local filesystem ..... FAILED
On Sat, 12 May 2012 11:06:38 +0500, Muhammad wrote in message CAGWVfM=pmbzv+vfvi-p1hqa0_0hibqf+kmqqfyn81lmjtgh...@mail.gmail.com: is there anyone can help plz? ..not until you post your actual error messages. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512171120.72708...@celsius.lan
Re: Overcoming Debian(Linux?) paranoia - a gnome-ppp example
On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:39:49 -0500, Richard wrote in message 4faddb85.3060...@cloud85.net: I understand that historically Linux's roots are in a *MASSIVELY* multi-user environment. ..correct. *BUT* I'm a single user on an inherently physically secure ..you occupy Bouvet Island??? ;o) single user laptop. ..wrong, you have a multi user system on your laptop. ..and, you're getting useful support for free from people who knows how to debug ppp and gnome-ppp, which is the only _useful_ fact in my post here. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512172337.4e7db...@celsius.lan
Re: Regarding installation of xipdump-1.5.2.tgz on red hat linux 5 Enterprise Edition
On Sat, 12 May 2012 04:36:20 -0500, Indulekha wrote in message 20120512093620.GA7588@radhesyama: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 02:13:37AM -0700, onlymahend...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear sir, I am trying to install xipdump-1.5.2.tgz on my Red hat Linux 5 Enterprise Edition operating system. But while installation it shows many errors. Can you tell me how to install this software. Is there any other packages needed to install. pl reply... This is a debian list, no Red Hat. ..wrong answer, this is where you tell Mahendra to fetch and install one one of the debootstrap packages from e.g.: ... arnt@celsius:~$ apt-cache search debootstrap cdebootstrap - Bootstrap a Debian system cdebootstrap-static - Bootstrap a Debian system - static binary debootstrap - Bootstrap a basic Debian system ganeti-instance-debootstrap - debootstrap-based instance OS definition for ganeti grml-debootstrap - wrapper around debootstrap for installing pure Debian multistrap - multiple repository bootstrap based on apt pbuilder - personal package builder for Debian packages rinse - RPM installation environment arnt@celsius:~$ ... and point him to e.g.: ... http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en or http://kemovitra.blogspot.com/2010/01/use-cdebootstrap-to-install.html ...so he can learn how to play with Debian toys 'n tools. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512173646.23a3e...@celsius.lan
Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux
On Sat, 12 May 2012 09:09:14 +0100, Jon wrote in message 20120512080914.GD27051@debian: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:27:36AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: And it's not a problem as a kernel module either, seeing as though it's the user who has to manually load it. For that, the license could be proprietarded. It's a problem if you ever want help if/when there's a bug or problem with the module, since the kernel will be marked 'tainted'. ..another question is, what kinda performance enhanchement can zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux deliver, 5%, 50% or even 500%, compared to the best GPL file systems? And, no risk of vendor lock-in? ..and, is that performance enhanchement worth the litigation risk? How much has Google paid to their lawyers to date in Oracle v Google? What kinda future would you have, if you put yourself, or, your employer in such an expensive pinch? http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=OracleGoogle ..now, a totally different thing is, learning about zfs-fuse and zfsonlinux so you can make crazy money helping people migrate away from these litigation traps, which is what I gather OP really, really, really wants to do. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512175249.249ef...@celsius.lan
Re: Regarding installation of xipdump-1.5.2.tgz on red hat linux 5 Enterprise Edition
On Sat, 12 May 2012 17:59:41 +0200, Ralf wrote in message 1336838381.4734.11.camel@precise: I recommend the OP to switch from Arch to http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable while I'm writing from Ubuntu ;D ... but in your case I suspect that Debian stable is what you need. Somebody might correct me, but IIRC only http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-i386-CD-1.iso is needed?! I suspect that Arnt's recommendation is much to hard to understand. ..(c)debootstrap* allows installing Debian from and onto a running Linux system, by putting it on its disk and then chrooting into it, some people likes to do it that way. ..based on my own Red Hat experience (RH-5.2 thru 9.0), I could be moved both ways, either the debootstrap dance, or play with the various Debian etc LiveCD|USB|DVD rescue tools, it really depends on how RH-5.0EE developed since RH-9.0 and how OP works admin'ing he's boxes. @ the OP: Are you subscribed to Linux user mailing list? - Ralf -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512185424.2ad9c...@celsius.lan
Re: question about no free repo
On Sat, 12 May 2012 11:02:54 -0500, mike wrote in message 0a4301cd3058$b1725d90$145718b0$@us: hi, i got one of the non-free repos to work but when i use this one at fails any suggestions? deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free ..looks ok. deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free ..fails, because it was _dropped_, _many_ years back. If you haven't updated it in the last 5? years and you have sensitive personal data on it, take it off the net, secure your data, and do a fresh install over it, either Squeeze or Wheezy, both these have reasonable security support, the old stuff is junk and is no longer supported. ..to pick a nice quick speedy mirror, try apt-spy: arnt@celsius:~$ apt-cache show apt-spy Package: apt-spy Version: 3.2.2-1 Installed-Size: 105 Maintainer: Stefano Canepa s...@linux.it Architecture: amd64 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3), libcurl3 (= 7.16.2) Description-en: writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests Parses the list of mirrors downloaded from ftp.debian.org and then based on the region specified by the user each of testes mirrors for bandwidth, at the end it writes /etc/apt/sources.list.d/apt-spy.list using the best mirror it found out. Description-md5: da1a3328493baadab139010ab429ce8b Tag: admin::package-management, interface::commandline, network::scanner, protocol::ftp, protocol::http, role::program, scope::utility, suite::debian, use::downloading, use::scanning Section: admin Priority: optional Filename: pool/main/a/apt-spy/apt-spy_3.2.2-1_amd64.deb Size: 29490 MD5sum: 151f423f917dde02d256e41929b1b60e SHA1: 1b23f6d91ac8cd4d21f1940f1119ff629d770147 SHA256: a0328abb192ef1b796d468ed28fb04c52f3fddc5c1210c901fcd2a2eff1c2b14 arnt@celsius:~$ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512190719.7ccd6...@celsius.lan
Re: OT: 各類廠商存貨 貨辦 倉底貨 碼頭櫃貨 退港貨等
On Sat, 12 May 2012 18:16:53 +0100, Terence wrote in message cafg91epncnxq3tjoyucdryztkvx-jaqhtninqsbsx-zd89f...@mail.gmail.com: Arnt, My apologies! I should have been more careful, and taken more account of the nested messages. My comments still stand , however, in regard to the quoted text. I trust you will forgive me for the misattribution! ..I still see no rallies on Fox, CNN or Al-Jaseera pleading for mercy for you? And, there's still a market for tiled ground zero glazing. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512235955.5ff9f...@celsius.lan
Re: OT: More about GPG signing
On Fri, 11 May 2012 19:11:52 +0200, Ralf wrote in message 1336756312.8142.14.camel@precise: On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 19:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 19:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 04:49 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: And you could tell this from his/her posts?, amazing! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome Hobby-psychologist are able to do this. The less differential diagnosis you know, the easier it is to defame. The ICE + DSM together already are ridiculous for serious psychology and most people even don't know those. ICD not ICE ;) I'm a troll :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment ..as a native Troll National, I'm eminently pleased to confirm that keeping a trawl going at troll speeds, commonly requires at least one ICE. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120511213256.777b8...@celsius.lan
OT: 各類廠商存貨 貨辦 倉底貨 碼頭櫃貨 退港貨等
On Fri, 11 May 2012 18:11:36 +0200, Ralf wrote in message 1336752696.7000.28.camel@precise: On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 17:03 +0100, keith wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 15:55:18 +0100 Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org wrote: a fuckwit :( Doesn't appear to be in The English Oxford Dictionary. Using the Oxford Dictionary is pretentious, today we're using the urban dictionary :p http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuckwit I also don't like the typo in 各類廠商存貨 貨辦 倉底貨 碼頭櫃貨 退港貨等 ;), seemingly a lack of spell checking for the subject :D. - Ralf ..spammers commonly mis-spell to evade spell checking spam filters, paving the path for firmer spam control enforcement such as nuclear drone strikes. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120511214520.1e074...@celsius.lan
Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux
On Fri, 11 May 2012 14:32:54 +0100, Jon wrote in message 20120511133254.GD1319@debian: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 06:40:53PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..it is (at least in theory) possible to crack both GNU/Linux and */kfreeBSD at the same time, and it is also possible to attack GNU Hurd at the same time as the former 2, even if I agree with Microsoft FUD that by extension holds it's less likely because of the wee windfall that can be had from attacking the decidedly _small_ etc number of people running GNU Hurd. But that could change, like it has with GNU Linux. Ah ok, I see. I was not suggesting KFreeBSD for security reasons. ..aye, the *BSD unices _used_ to be good on security a decade or so ago. ..aye, but researching OP's 2 links further, I found this neat wee litigation trap: ;o) http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatAboutTheLicensingIssue Yes that's what I was referring to. The CDDL is incompatible with the GPL, but it is fine with the BSD license, so Debian GNU/KFreeBSD doesn't have those problems. ..er, any Debian GNU/KFreeBSD distro would be mostly GPL, no? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512002221.40174...@celsius.lan
Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux
On Fri, 11 May 2012 09:27:36 -0600, Aaron wrote in message 20120511152735.gn21...@eightyeight.xmission.com: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 02:32:54PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: Yes that's what I was referring to. The CDDL is incompatible with the GPL, but it is fine with the BSD license, so Debian GNU/KFreeBSD doesn't have those problems. And it's not a problem as a kernel module either, seeing as though it's the user who has to manually load it. For that, the license could be proprietarded. ...like the SCO Group, Oracle and Microsoft wants, and that might happen _if_ copyright law or the GPL is defeated. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512001710.4bb70...@celsius.lan
..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux
On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:42:36 +0100, Jon wrote in message 20120510104236.GL8272@debian: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:22:35AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2012 19:18:28 +0100, Jon wrote in message 20120509181828.GG8272@debian: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:07:51PM +0100, Lists wrote: I'm looking at using ZFS for a box that will serve as a storage/backup box. I'm aware of Debian/kFreeBSD, which seems to be ..if you're paranoid enough to worry about Debian/GNU Linux, you may also want to consider Debian/GNU Hurd as a third way to rescue your back-up data. I don't understand your response, here, but I think you may have misunderstood mine. ..it is (at least in theory) possible to crack both GNU/Linux and */kfreeBSD at the same time, and it is also possible to attack GNU Hurd at the same time as the former 2, even if I agree with Microsoft FUD that by extension holds it's less likely because of the wee windfall that can be had from attacking the decidedly _small_ etc number of people running GNU Hurd. But that could change, like it has with GNU Linux. ..bottom line is beavers have multiple lodge exits for a reason, predators. With enough exits, they escape and qualify as paranoid enough. ;o) ZFS has been neatly integrated into FreeBSD and there are no license incompatibilities. Debian KFreeBSD is arguably the most reliable way to use ZFS and Debian together. (The OP's question was based on the premise that they definitely NEED ZFS. Perhaps they don't?) Debian KFreeBSD is a supported architecture for Debian, so you aren't wandering 'off reservation' by doing this, and you would be with the various zfs-on-linux projects. However, if you are comfortable and familiar with administering Debian GNU/Linux, you might be slightly wary of running KFreeBSD on the metal. Running it as a VM instead gives you the opportunity to use your familiar, trusted OS on the outside, but with the stable and supported ZFS system on the inside. ..aye, but researching OP's 2 links further, I found this neat wee litigation trap: ;o) http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatAboutTheLicensingIssue http://zfs-fuse.net/releases/0.7.0 even has a neat wee box License right next to a neat wee clicky linky box CDDL that I hoped would explain the terms of the CDDL. ..instead, it brought me to the software patent plaintiff headlined in todays http://groklaw.net/ which fortunately does have a bunch of reliable links to the CDDL: p ;o) http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110810152617279query=CDDL http://www.groklaw.net/search.php?query=CDDLkeyType=phrasedatestart=dateend=topic=0type=allauthor=0mode=search ...and, to the GPLs: ;o) http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20050131065655645 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120510184053.6a7eb...@celsius.lan
Re: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux
On Thu, 10 May 2012 14:18:37 +0100, Lists wrote in message 4fabc02d.8080...@coffeehabit.net: On 09/05/2012 23:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..exactly _what_ should it do for you? ..after that, you'll be ready for the _how_. I know the what and why of what I'm doing. Why do you assume I don't? ..because you hadn't told us you do when I responded, you merely left us assume you do, and we all (should) know the perils of flawed assumtions, and, because your open ended way of asking is useful both to learn the basics, to learn more and to explore new ideas. ..which again is I tried to nail that _what_ down. I asked for comment on two implementations of one piece of technology. Feel free to comment on that. ..I dunno these weird CDDL licenced fs'es, ext2|3|4 are GPL and has done everything I ever needed done here. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120510180510.77aeb...@celsius.lan
Re: Graphic problem on Debian testing installed on Dell Optiplex 960
On Wed, 9 May 2012 14:06:30 +0900, Johan wrote in message caks5mhqkqwbcmujdneckfyeyckaj-herk+xvcoewyqohzok...@mail.gmail.com: Under kernel 3.2.0-2, I have: *dmesg |grep modeset [7.111909] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. [7.112268] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV620 0x1002:0x95C5 0x1028:0x0342). *dmesg |grep radeon [7.111909] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. [7.111991] radeon :01:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 [7.111997] radeon :01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [7.112558] radeon :01:00.0: VRAM: 256M 0x - 0x0FFF (256M used) [7.112561] radeon :01:00.0: GTT: 512M 0x1000 - 0x2FFF [7.115303] [drm] radeon: 256M of VRAM memory ready [7.115304] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready. [7.115368] radeon :01:00.0: irq 50 for MSI/MSI-X [7.115373] radeon :01:00.0: radeon: using MSI. [7.115404] [drm] radeon: irq initialized. [7.581930] radeon :01:00.0: WB enabled [7.613104] [drm] radeon: ib pool ready. [7.613633] [drm] radeon: power management initialized [7.752123] fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb0) is primary device [8.177088] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device [8.177095] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.12.0 20080528 for :01:00.0 on minor 0 This looks fine, does it ? ..yup, you have everything working allright now? Do you want me to run the same commands on kernel 2.6.32-5 ? ..your problem, your thread, your decision. ;o) Regards Johan 2012/5/8 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net: On Tue, 8 May 2012 13:23:29 +0900, Johan wrote in message caks5mhq_bp+f11zkdkehqrvdjez8joaunr51an2dybjqs8f...@mail.gmail.com: I installed firmware-linux, firmware-linus-non-free, libdrm2 and libdrm-radeon1. I think that radeon is starting with KMS because there is a file called radeon-kms.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ that contains options radeon modeset=1. ..verify that with e.g. 'dmesg |grep modeset' or 'dmesg |grep radeon' or some such search. This fixed the problem for kernels 3.2.0-1 and 3.2.0-2. There is however still a problem with kernel 2.6.32-5 : rectangle of random black and white pixels disappeared but gnome login screen doesn't work. I don't know if Debian want to fix this or not. If yes, I would be glad to help in terms of testing. Thanks a lot for your help. Regards. Johan -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120509115240.20c2d...@celsius.lan
Re: Iceweasel 10.0.4 problem
On Tue, 8 May 2012 17:19:07 -0400, Kjetil wrote in message CAH=m5MiAuR57Un0g5LMYE5bVwHyM5AhVFkM+FhzvXOoN0s6=o...@mail.gmail.com: Hola! This is wheezy+some sid system, amd64. Yesterday I did update with synaptic, and new version of Iceweasel was installed, 10.0.4 And now the laptop is noising all the time, being unresponsive also. top shows firefox-bin at 20-100% cpu usage all the time, even if I am not doing anything special in iceweasel. I hav eonly 8 tabs opened. , only reading pages, no loading of new pages, and cpu usage is from 20-100% all the time. Unbearable! ..file a bug and use e.g. chromium in the mean while, chromium easily handles over 30 tabs, but watch out for flash ads, I use htop to kill those if chromium's task manager fails. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120509120326.404c0...@celsius.lan
Re: grey/white/grey/white/etc bars
On Wed, 9 May 2012 05:02:37 +0100, Sharon wrote in message cam9u--f7hbozjnokrd-qi1hu7dgmxjtjetoccpdda7_ft1m...@mail.gmail.com: On 09/05/2012, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 02:17:46AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: Does anyone know how to get rid of the grey/white/grey/white etc bars in the background of programmes like konqueror, rhythmbox, kmail and virtually everything please? I find them very annoying and they make the black text in the grey bars almost impossible to read for one of advancing years. Any help gratefully accepted :) Try using qtconfig. -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha Thanks, thats made it easier to read the text, but am still playing with it seeing what each option does. :) ..may be a bug, url to your screen shots? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120509120553.5af0a...@celsius.lan
OT: +5, was: gpg/pgp noise
On Wed, 09 May 2012 11:37:23 +0200, Ralf wrote in message 1336556243.2171.373.camel@precise: Or would it be a good idea t close this thread? Regards, Ralf ..+5. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120509121523.3747a...@celsius.lan
Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze
On Wed, 9 May 2012 11:19:10 +0200, Seyyed wrote in message CAKJMja+mrpWmo8uhakjGfwsuk3W0=+a6lmbhfvxkkfcterf...@mail.gmail.com: Hello, Before anybody starts arguing that I don't have 64-bit, this is uname -r and uname -m: root@n03:~# uname -r 2.6.32-3-amd64 root@n03:~# uname -m x86_64 As the subject suggest I have a box that does not utilize the available RAM installed. I noticed that only 3.6gb RAM was recognized when I got segmentation faults during a simulation. The funny thing is that when I remove dims so that only 48gb RAM is available then it works fine, I did a 'lshw -C memory' and it shows all the dims at the correct spot (the output is attached). BIOS and memtest show and successfully test all 64gb. ..post a one core snip of your /proc/cpuinfo, I'm wondering if you've hit some 36 bit address space ceiling. I have ... root@celsius:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz ... bogomips: 3989.93 clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ...and: root@celsius:~# qalc 2^36bytes to GiBytes (2^36) * byte = 64 gibibytes Hope somebody can help me fix this, I cannot think of anything that could cause this Best regards, Mohtadin -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120509123221.5fbba...@celsius.lan
Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze
On Wed, 9 May 2012 13:01:25 +0200, Seyyed wrote in message CAKJMjaJM8PnwFpknfZ+1C62rhFR=szdvjukulc_pa3c_z+w...@mail.gmail.com: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2012 11:19:10 +0200, Seyyed wrote in message CAKJMja+mrpWmo8uhakjGfwsuk3W0=+a6lmbhfvxkkfcterf...@mail.gmail.com: Hello, Before anybody starts arguing that I don't have 64-bit, this is uname -r and uname -m: root@n03:~# uname -r 2.6.32-3-amd64 root@n03:~# uname -m x86_64 As the subject suggest I have a box that does not utilize the available RAM installed. I noticed that only 3.6gb RAM was recognized when I got segmentation faults during a simulation. The funny thing is that when I remove dims so that only 48gb RAM is available then it works fine, I did a 'lshw -C memory' and it shows all the dims at the correct spot (the output is attached). BIOS and memtest show and successfully test all 64gb. ..post a one core snip of your /proc/cpuinfo, I'm wondering if you've hit some 36 bit address space ceiling. I have ... root@celsius:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz ... bogomips: 3989.93 clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ...and: root@celsius:~# qalc 2^36bytes to GiBytes (2^36) * byte = 64 gibibytes Here you go: processor : 31 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 21 model : 1 model name : AMD Opteron(TM) Processor 6274 ... address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual ..ok, your cpus have 48 bit address space, is there anything else that could force you into a 36 bit straitjacket? ..what happens if you remove 2 ram sticks? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120509235625.4d3c2...@celsius.lan
Re: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux
On Wed, 9 May 2012 19:18:28 +0100, Jon wrote in message 20120509181828.GG8272@debian: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:07:51PM +0100, Lists wrote: I'm looking at using ZFS for a box that will serve as a storage/backup box. I'm aware of Debian/kFreeBSD, which seems to be ..if you're paranoid enough to worry about Debian/GNU Linux, you may also want to consider Debian/GNU Hurd as a third way to rescue your back-up data. ..define: the best solution ..exactly _what_ should it do for you? ..after that, you'll be ready for the _how_. if I want to use Debian, but it does introduce some limitations, so I haven't decided on it (yet). You could consider it inside a VM (Xen, KVM or otherwise) with Linux on the outside. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120510002235.00e50...@celsius.lan
Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze
On Wed, 09 May 2012 17:35:51 -0500, Stan wrote in message 4faaf147.7010...@hardwarefreak.com: On 5/9/2012 11:43 AM, Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi wrote: An update: I tried CentOS 6.1 (the only one i had at hand) and it gave the exact same result as Debian. I have in the meantime tried to use other RAM modules, and unfortunately they also did not give more than 3.5gb. Considering that i pulled the ram from a 24/7 stable system i assume that it is indeed the motherboard/BIOS that does not function properly. That is not a safe assumption given how picky socket G34 is with memory channel configuration. I will return the motherboard and see if i can get one that works. Before you return the board, would you mind posting the manufacturer, part number, and specs of each of the 16 DIMMs you have installed? They should all match. Are they all indeed the same part# from the same vendor? Are they unbuffered or registered? Are they single, dual, or quad rank modules? All of these things matter, greatly. Unfortunately, Asus doesn't provide the proper table in the manual for this board that shows which combinations of speed, density, rank, and un/buffered DIMMs work in socket G34. SuperMicro does, and frankly they're the only vendor of AMD server boards I'd ever use because of their attention to all the details. Socket G34 is fairly picky regarding DIMM configurations, especially with high density (8/16GB) modules, though not as picky with low density (1/2/4GB) modules. 16 identical unbuffered, or registered, 4GB DDR3-1333 SR or DR DIMMs *should* work, so long as you don't put both unbuffered and buffered DIMMs in the same two slot channel. ..a test suggestion: remove 2 of the 16 ram sticks and make sure the remaining 14 is set up according to the main board manual's ram stick map, I saw it posted in this thread. If this test works, you should see 56G once booted up. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120510013854.63b36...@celsius.lan
Re: Graphic problem on Debian testing installed on Dell Optiplex 960
On Tue, 8 May 2012 13:23:29 +0900, Johan wrote in message caks5mhq_bp+f11zkdkehqrvdjez8joaunr51an2dybjqs8f...@mail.gmail.com: I installed firmware-linux, firmware-linus-non-free, libdrm2 and libdrm-radeon1. I think that radeon is starting with KMS because there is a file called radeon-kms.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ that contains options radeon modeset=1. ..verify that with e.g. 'dmesg |grep modeset' or 'dmesg |grep radeon' or some such search. This fixed the problem for kernels 3.2.0-1 and 3.2.0-2. There is however still a problem with kernel 2.6.32-5 : rectangle of random black and white pixels disappeared but gnome login screen doesn't work. I don't know if Debian want to fix this or not. If yes, I would be glad to help in terms of testing. Thanks a lot for your help. Regards. Johan -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120508163141.30f7b...@celsius.lan
Re: gpg/pgp noise
On Tue, 08 May 2012 13:00:26 +0100, Phil wrote in message 4fa90ada.80...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/05/12 12:57, Indulekha wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 02:53:30PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: 08.05.2012 14:45, Jochen Spieker kirjoitti: Indulekha: No, I think you may have an incorrect or incomplete configuration This is inline vs. MIME: http://www.phildev.net/pgp/pgp_clear_vs_mime.html J. And that page forgets the problems in MIME. PGP/MIME requires headers, message and the signature.asc to be verified. Some mailing list programs mess up with the headers and this way make PGP/MIME signatures unverifiable. In INLINE, the signature is in message and it doesn't require headers to be verified so it's harder to be messed up by mailing list software. Well, all I know is that Jochen Spieker is able to use it without being intrusive Maybe you should try to follow his example? :) I'm getting the distinct impression you're not quite following this thread as it's written :-) ..me, I follow it in the exact threaded way, my fetchmail fed procmail filtered claws-mail presents my d-u mail list folder to me at the very time I hop in there. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120508164539.55663...@celsius.lan
Re: debian 6.0.4 grub installation failed.
On Tue, 8 May 2012 17:08:10 +0500, Muhammad wrote in message cagwvfmmmgbswr+zt1sha8wrdv0wtmdc6_c00i2+k4msdh48...@mail.gmail.com: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: i just bought 2TBx2 Harddrives and a computer for making it a centralized archiving server. moving forward everything went well but during the installation in RAID creating i noticed that i could not change the boot flag to on it was off and i hit several enters but it stays off. so i just continued with off. now when installation completed . setup stops at grup installation and throw an error grub-install /dev/sda failed its a fatal error any idea why this? i never face this type of error before. please help. Thanks ok i fdisk the the partition via recovery CD clonezilla. but all the partitions doesn't reflect in installation it is showing the old partition structure however when i go to shell and check things via FDISK it showed me the new created parttiion with boot flag on which i have create via commandline. Please help ..try cfdisk, it gives you eyes. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120508165048.08568...@celsius.lan
Re: Panning the screen to get an usable GNOME desktop in netbooks
On Tue, 8 May 2012 13:47:47 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message job863$vio$2...@dough.gmane.org: On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:33:49 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 01:22:14PM +, Camaleón wrote: Yup, I also tried with xrandr --output LVDS1 --rotate right -which works- but from there is very hard to direct the mouse to the right place, i.e., it's unmanageable. Do you have an xorg.conf? No, that's deprecated since Squeeze. But I can try it :-) If so, does it set a virtual screen size? SubSection Display ... Virtual 1024 768 ... Okay, let's see what happens. First, I let xserver generates the xorg.conf for me: service gdm3 stop Xorg -configure It outputs an error¹ an the file is not generated (oh, well, this can be something to report). Okay, let's try another command: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Which makes nothing... no change, no questions, no file :-? Okay, I will generate the file manually: Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor SubSection Display Depth 24 Virtual 3000 2000 ..your graphics iron supports this big a picture? Chk your X log for mention of buffer, vram etc between the modelines and the acceleration setup. EndSubSection EndSection When starting gdm3 I only get a black screen with the GNOME cursor but nothing more. And I can't jump to a tty so I have to force a shutdown. So, unless I have a way to generate a workable xorg.conf file, I cannot try :-) ¹ Error: (...) Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed. Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file. Greetings, -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120508180716.35470...@celsius.lan
Re: check a file within a certain time
On Sun, 6 May 2012 01:55:24 +0800, ron wrote in message caaxo3xk9hoxqqsrgqh3awdvk2pfgzw+0tjjzarubcon5j8d...@mail.gmail.com: Hi All, This is more of a general linux question. I would like to test if a file if exists, and if the test does not respond in 5 seconds it' considered failed. ..you want to do a test within a deadline. The deadline is 5 seconds, and, you want to test if a file is existing. reason for this is that i have web servers that has mounted nfs volumes, but when the NFS server is high on load accessing the nfs mount on the web servers seems slow. the mount is not disconnected, it's just that there is a delay accessing it ..so, the test should be _read_ the file to verify it _is_ useful, rather than test whether it was on a mounted disk before it died? so what i'd like to do is test a file in the nfs mount e.g. /var/www/nfsmount/checknfs.txt if it was detected within 5 seconds it is ok if not i will send me an email alert about it. i was trying the read command: read -t 5 /var/www/nfsmount/checknfs.txt or cat /var/www/nfsmount/checknfs.txt | read -t 5 but it does not give me anything. any idea how this can be done? TIA. ..timeout -k 5 test (chk man timeout) or until [timeout -k 5] ;do test ;done? (I assume you know how to do your tests.) Note that an until loop tests for the terminating condition at the _top_ of the loop. http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/loops1.html Regards, Ron -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120506051645.11f1b...@celsius.lan
Re: non-free Squeeze and sources.list
On Sun, 6 May 2012 06:08:46 +0200, Thierry wrote in message 201205060608.46970.tchate...@free.fr: On Sunday 06 May 2012 05:39:24 Martin McCormick wrote: The line I do have in sources.list is: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze contrib non-free My idea: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free ..you also need main, so say: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120506072050.2298e...@celsius.lan
Re: Random system freezes - need your input
On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:56:01 +0200, Matthias wrote in message CABo4i4y5-=KRW57TdmjVgJVb=t=sf-65gyqsevk6s9yecfs...@mail.gmail.com: 2012/5/1 Matthias Guentert matthias.guent...@gmail.com: Thanks for your reply - very appreciated. Currently I am running Windows Vista on a third harddisk to see if a hardware fault can be excluded being the culprit. So far I did not had one freeze since weeks running Vista. This points back to your suspicion. I will switch back to the opensource nv driver and see if this solves the random freezes. No single freeze since four days, although the nvidia kernel module is loaded. All I did is replace the nvidia string from the xorg.conf file with nv. It seems the nvidia driver is causing this random stops - the USB path can be discarded. This means both nvidia-glx versions are causing my PC to halt. _Debian non-free repository:_ nvidia-glx version 195.36.31-6 _Backports non-free repository:_ nvidia-glx version 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+2 Okay what's next? How can I provide more information / enable debugging for this module? ..ask Nvidea's support team, it's _their_ _closed_ source. ..now, if you were willing to help debug the nouveau driver on your card, you would find a fine team of supporting volonteers here on this list. Thanks in advance Matthias -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504142846.16682...@celsius.lan
Re: Where to store Icon for xv
On Thu, 03 May 2012 17:43:47 -0400, Edward wrote in message 4fa2fc13.3090...@comcast.net: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..really??? _The_ xv icon? 8o) Please post the output of dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/xv.svgz. dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/xv.svgz kde-icons-mono: /usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/xv.svgz ..nope, it isn't, you were right Indulekha, but it close enough to fool _many_ here. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504145143.72754...@celsius.lan
Re: Random system freezes - need your input
On Fri, 4 May 2012 16:09:57 +0200, Matthias wrote in message cabo4i4ygehv6s-o09jglhfsrhxn0aeqfzt9sak+p5scx8pa...@mail.gmail.com: 2012/5/4 Curt cu...@free.fr: Upgrade to the newest stable driver (I guess you'll have to use the nvidia installer, after purging the debian package) and newest stable kernel, try the remedies/workarounds suggested here, if any apply: Okay, I'll give the latest version a try. Let's see how stable that one is... also I've created a thread on the nvidia forum. $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 295.49 Mon Apr 30 23:46:33 PDT 2012 GCC version: gcc version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8) But as the driver is closed-source, non-free, proprietary, and as Bob Proulx would say, evil, debian development people can't help you if the problem fails to be resolved. That is life, as my late mother used to say, in the big city. ;-) Hm, I can feel some malicious pleasure there... ;-) Any real alternatives (in terms of performance, support, opensource drivers) to nvidia? ..you did try nouveau? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504163738.5fbf1...@celsius.lan
Re: problem with video display in X
On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:54:45 -0400, Long wrote in message CAB-gxZBmx_yvYZGZBjHMJZe1rV9MPDUg11z=0uc0xvyhuhz...@mail.gmail.com: i have just installed Debian 6 it has problem with my video card i have to set to 15 bit with /etc/X11/xorg.conf if i use 16 bit or 32 bit, ..chk'ed your logs, your ATI Rage 128 Pro should work best with 24bit colors, these _are_ 24bit cards. ..a few years back, before I got my first Radeon, I pushed an 8MB mach64 card to well past 1600x1200 to its maximum resolution, but I believe it was less than 2048x1536x24bpp@43Hz. My Radeons all run at 2048x1536x32bpp@what ever the crt can handle, with one exception, the laptop I use to write this message, 1920x1200x32bpp@60Hz. the monitor shows incorrectly ..smeared psychedelics, or just darkness? and i have to press power button to shutdown .._much_ easier to ssh into the machine from another machine on your lan. I attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log (now I go to sleep. (I will replay later, Thanks!)) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504232936.1a405...@celsius.lan
Re: How do I remove a bad file??
On Wed, 02 May 2012 15:39:05 -0400, Dan wrote in message 4fa18d59.9010...@kempt.net: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2012 07:04:55 +0200, Jochen wrote in message 20120502050455.ga25...@well-adjusted.de: Dennis Wicks: Greetings; I have a file that looks like the following in an ls list; -? ? ?? ?? Inbox.msf I can't do anything with it. Can't mv, rm, cp, or anything else I have thought of to get rid of it or write over it. Any ideas how I can get this thing out of my life?? Fsck the filesystem. ..first, umount it right _now!_ ..if Inbox.msf is your email,... That looks like a Mozilla SeaMonkey or Thunderbird mail _index_ file. If it is, it can be deleted and SeaMonkey/Thunderbird will re-create it (from the corresponding mail data file) the next time the corresponding mail folder is opened/viewed. In my experience (as a long-time Mozilla user and occasional mail file hacker--but _not_ developer or expert), the only thing the OP might lose is his or her choice of display order (by date vs. sender, etc., and whether threaded display or not). ..that sounds like the very best case scenario. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120503101736.4aa18...@celsius.lan
Re: *URGENT* plz need help system not booting after lvresize command
On Wed, 2 May 2012 23:56:06 +0500, Muhammad wrote in message
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2012 22:07:14 +0500, Muhammad wrote in message
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i tried every single possibility regarding cables i have 3 HD i
tried the smaller HDs cable it gives me the same error.
..good, means hardware failure. Try another machine.
actually i also installed quota module by modeprobe qutoa_v2 and
echo qutoa_V2 /etc/moudels
in fstab i added the UUID and ursquota keyword to for quota
support.
and the next start was very unfortunate .
actually it is showing me the error on the point where RAID md
devices are checked
when i unpluged the problem drive it shows me md1 md2 and md0
status and after few logs it give me the problem but when plug
the drive back, on the stage where it suppose to show the SW raid1
status it shows me this error.
is there any possibility i can at least get the data back. i am
100% sure it is not a hardware problem. it has some configuration
related problem.
..yes, and it could even be both. If your data is important,
keep it safe and away from that machine until you know it is
ok. E.g. flaky grid power can eat your power supply enough
to e.g. kill a file system journal or leave it running on a
read-only fs, force feeding you interesting challenges.
can you please make it easy what you have :P i am not that good in
english :-D
..like I said above, try your disks in _another_ machine.
what do you mean by readonly FS.
..mount each of your disks with e.g.
mount -vo,ro /dev/bad-disk.part0 /mnt.
and what do you mean by kill a file system.
..you can _destroy_ _all_ of your data if you do a fsck or if you
do a normal mount, which is usually a read-write mount, where you
risk having your possibly bad file system journal try to repair
your file system.
..I've had this happen twice on my own, and once on a
client fs in the early days of ext3. No, I have no
experience with lvm.
i am a newbie can you make it easy please
..you asked for advice here on d-u@dlo. A wise start.
but right now the problem is command prompt.
..no. _If_ you want to use that machine with your disks,
_first_ take your disks out of that machine, and _then_
use a LiveCD or LiveUSB or some such to verify your machine
is working ok, check ram, cpu, power supply _etc_, you
probably have an hardware problem that caused your disk
failures.
is there any way that
Debian just ignore the error and continue the boot and at least give
me the command prompt where i can just copy all the stuff to USB or
another drive.
..yes. Use a _working_ machine, one without bad hardware.
You will find that _much_ easier, and _much_ cheaper than
trying to mess with bad file systems on a blown up piece
of junk.
but let me shre you. i tried PXE boot via with clonezilla and
different OS drives but keep giving me the same error and not letting
me use the command prompt.
any idea?
Thanks
Thanks
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Claudius Hubig
debian_1...@chubig.net wrote:
Hello Muhammad,
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
ata3.01 : status: { DRDY ERR }
ata3.01 : error : { UNC }
ata3.01 : exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
ata3.01 : BMDMA stat 0x64
ata3.01 : failed command : read DMA
This looks as if either the hard drive or the connection thereto
is faulty. Try to connect the HDD to another SATA port. I don’t
think it has anything to do with your resizing.
Best regards good luck,
Claudius
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Re: Graphic problem on Debian testing installed on Dell Optiplex 960
On Thu, 3 May 2012 16:10:18 +0900, Johan wrote in message CAKS5mhRBvCDoarP6WfMMdtUGupntXxc6VfZ0FEitt68CL6d=b...@mail.gmail.com: I just installed ATI proprietary driver: fglrx. I can now access the Gnome login screen with any version of the kernel. I however have several problems with the multi-screen management through the Catalyst Control Center. I thus cannot use this solution permanently. However, I think that this prove that the non-proprietary ATI driver are here the source of my trouble. ..I disagree, I'd say it's the package's suggestion of linux-firmware rather than depending on it. Does anyone knows how to fix this ? ..aptitude install linux-firmware, you need linux-firmware-non-free, libdrm2 and libdrm-radeon1 too, and radeon needs booting with KMS. Regards. Johan 2012/5/3 Johan Mazel johan.ma...@gmail.com: Hi I have a Debian testing 64 bits running on a Dell Optiplex 960. I have three different kernels installed: 2.6.32-5, 3.2.0-1 and 3.2.0-2. Until a recent upgrade (through apt-get update/apt-get upgrade), I could not use the Gnome login screen with kernel versions 3.2.0-1 and 3.2.0-2: the top of the screen displayed a strange random pattern of pixels of many colors and the bottom of the screen was black. However, in this case, I was able to use GUI login, and, thus, Debian by using 2.6.32-5 kernel. After a recent upgrade, the Gnome login screen is now not even available with the 2.6.32-5 kernel. I only have a black screen with a cursor on the top-right corner and a rectangle constituted of random pixels in black and white located at the left of the screen and close to the top of the screen. I tried to remove the gdm3 package. This allow me reach the login console with the 2.6.32-5 kernel. In this case, I also have a rectangle constituted of random pixels in black and white located at the same place: left of the screen and close to the top of the screen. And, I still have the same bug as before with kernel versions 3.2.0-1 and 3.2.0-2: random pattern of pixels in many colors on top of the screen and black on the bottom of the screen. I tried to use the command startx when I am in the console but there is a problem. I do not copy here the result but I can extract. I think that this problem is causing the trouble with Gnome. Lspci finds this graphic card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0342 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at fe9f (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] I/O ports at dc00 [size=256] Expansion ROM at fea0 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: radeon I have no idea how to fix this problem. I would be grateful is somebody could help me fix it. Regards. Johan -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120503161406.5b9ae...@celsius.lan
