(solved) Re: ssh fingerprint mismatch for one single client
> Yes. Given the data you've provided, I retract my first hunch: it seems > your student is seeing a different host: > > - either DNS resolves to a different IP address -- then you'd see >different IP addresses for your server as viewed from your student's >workstation wrt the "rest of the world > > - or routing sends your student to a different host (claiming the >same IP address, that stinks ;-) > > Traceroute might help in the second case. Besides, you wouldn't see your > student's access attempts in your server logs -- after all, he's knocking > at another door. > > Cheers > - t > Dear Linuxers, I just want to close this issue by thanking everyone who chipped in with help and attempts to solve the problem Unfortunately the mistery will go on, because my student solve the problem by changing his ISP server. He told that the problem was solved immediately, as we predict and tested (via mobile and the neighbor's internet). So, I cannot run any more tests, and I'll stay curious about what really happened. My bet: the "homebrew ISP" has a DNS problem. Thanks. Dr. Bèco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09 Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional, direitos autorais reservados, ou cuja divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege, reserved copyright, or whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.
Re: ssh fingerprint mismatch for one single client
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 13:59, Beco wrote: > I also asked him to bring his notebook to a neighbor to try to connect > from there. We'll see his reply soon. > > > > Update: He went to his neighbor with his notebook in hand, tried there and he got the correct fingerprint and connected to the server with no issues. Cheers, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09 Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional, direitos autorais reservados, ou cuja divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege, reserved copyright, or whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.
Re: ssh fingerprint mismatch for one single client
ter 0 packets dropped by kernel The server IP is correct (198.200.100.50 fictitious but correct) > BTW, is the server in question public? I.e. can any of the list members > connect to it and find out for themselves that's a good fingerprint > looks like? It is not, sorry about that. But I think the command above "nmap" gives a good example. Bad fingerprint: ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:+2abcdf2312QbKjdsafdkjfIOIjnCCDIOej129831jasROY. or as md5: | 256 5b:6b:4b:3b:2b:1b:8b:2b:7b:9b:9b:0b:3b:5b:4b:3b (ECDSA) --- Good fingerprint: AADSkjdsd98ajdasfnSlkjl2k342ASndsnfjdsfJKJOsdkn123ssasd2dscjcjodifjadsf8jdfjsncFLY or as md5: | 256 cc:99:11:22:33:44:55:66:77:88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd:ee (ECDSA) > Reco > Reco ends - Also: i asked him to try connecting via cable (instead of wifi). Same problem. I also asked him to bring his notebook to a neighbor to try to connect from there. We'll see his reply soon. Thanks all for the rich input. I hope we can find something. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09 Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional, direitos autorais reservados, ou cuja divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege, reserved copyright, or whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.
Re: ssh fingerprint mismatch for one single client
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 18:55, mick crane wrote: > > Just wild guess. > Student can connect via the mobile network but not through the ISP > router? > Might that be the port for ssh on the router ? > > mick > > -- > Key ID4BFEBB31 > > Hello Mick, Thanks for the interest. Yes, student can connect via mobile. And, somewhat "yes", student can kind of connect via ISP. It is not that the port is blocking traffic. The fingerprint appears, and if accepted the wrong one, the password is asked for. But then, of course, the connection fail. Also, he was able to connect the day before. So whatever it is, it is recent, and just for one single student. Also, I asked him to check the router port 22 if it was ok. He did a hard reset (factory reset) on it. He took a look and it is open. My best, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09 Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional, direitos autorais reservados, ou cuja divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege, reserved copyright, or whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.
Re: ssh fingerprint mismatch for one single client
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 18:46, Lucas Castro wrote: > > Check if he's really reaching the right server. > > ping the server from his computer and check with tcpdump on server side. > > If not reaching the server, try traceroute to track where is going on. > > > Local address or Internet address address? > > If local address, maybe he had already accessed other server with the > same address. > -- > > Lucas Castro > > Dear Lucas, thanks for the interest. The ping server side is disabled, so this test is not possible. Traceroute from student to server shows it is the correct server. Not a clue yet. Thanks -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09 Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional, direitos autorais reservados, ou cuja divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege, reserved copyright, or whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.
ssh fingerprint mismatch for one single client
Dear linuxers, I've a server and one of my students is getting a wrong fingerprint when trying to connect via SSH. After a lot of debug, we are still unable to pinpoint why. The server didn't change IP or keys, and other students still log in ok with the correct fingerprint. Just one student, let's call him Bob (because why not), is not getting through. I've asked Bob to try a different machine, which he does not have, being a poor student. But he had a mobile, so after trying the app juiceSSH and wifi on, he again got the wrong fingerprint. I asked him to turn the wifi off for the mobile and yes, he got the correct fingerprint. I also asked him to run a full antivirus scan in his notebook (windows) and nothing was found. He also hard-reseted the router, still the problem continues. He called the ISP for any clues, but it is a small company who doesn't know the word "fingerprint" neither in english nor in their native language. So, not much help there. I also asked him to check if his IP is what he think it is, and he checked with one of these "what is my IP" website and it is ok. As for DNS, I asked him to try to ssh directly using the server's IP instead of the name, but still the wrong fingerprint. Kinda crazy, right? I run out of ideas... What else should I try to help that student? Thanks Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09 Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional, direitos autorais reservados, ou cuja divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege, reserved copyright, or whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.
Re: cron consolekit pam_ck_connector.so: no such file
Thanks Reco, I don't know how you keep up after all these years seen you here on the debian list. Congrats. Beco. On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 11:36, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:19:39AM -0300, Beco wrote: > > Is this pam module deprecated? > > Yes, it was removed from main archive back in 2018 - [1]. > > > I can't find the package that provides it on > > debian buster. > > There's no package in buster that provides the PAM module or ConsoleKit > itself, see above. > > > What is the correct secure approach? Should I just remove the optional > > session line from PAM config? > > Strictly speaking, deinstallation of "libpam-ck-connector" (I'm assuming > it was installed on this system at some point) should have done that. > But no package is bug-free, and ConsoleKit was not the best package in > this regard. > > So, removing offending lines from the PAM configuration is the best > course of action. > > Reco > > [1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/consolekit > > -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09 Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional, direitos autorais reservados, ou cuja divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege, reserved copyright, or whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.
cron consolekit pam_ck_connector.so: no such file
Dear debians, Is this pam module deprecated? I can't find the package that provides it on debian buster. And I get a lot of logs: CRON: PAM adding faulty module: pam_ck_connector.so SSHD: PAM adding faulty module: pam_ck_connector.so unable to dlopen(pam_ck_connector.so): /lib/security/pam_ck_connector.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory What is the correct secure approach? Should I just remove the optional session line from PAM config? I can't even find consolekit for buster. Maybe this is old news (gentoo reports no activity on this since 2017), but I'm only reading about it now. Thanks in advance. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09 Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional, direitos autorais reservados, ou cuja divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege, reserved copyright, or whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.
(solved - part 2) Re: Missing a "9" (possible font missing)
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 18:32, Dan Ritter wrote: > Beco wrote: > > Yes, this test indeed solved the "9" becoming a dash. > > > > I could let that as is, but after many years using linux I learned that > the > > less you personalize your system, the less headache you will have in the > > future. > > > > So, how can I undo some probable mistake in my system and get it back to > > what it is like when first installed? > > > > Is there a debian package for Lucida Grande. I know I've tried to install > > many out-of-repositories alternatives for Lucida Grande that I'm willing > to > > remove them all. > > Sorry, there is not. Lucida Grande is a variant of Lucida Sans that > Apple commissioned and holds the copyright on. > > It's very likely that one of those out-of-repo alternatives is > causing your problem; left to its own devices, the X11 font > system will look for a reasonable match when it doesn't have > precisely the font asked for. The fontconfig trick that I showed > you is the proper way to inform it of a user preference; it is > probably overriding something claiming to be Lucida Grande but > with a poor excuse for a 9 glyph. > > Remove all the alternatives, and it should cope well enough. > > > -dsr- > Dan, I removed all Lucida crap from my system, and then I also removed that small hack from ~/.fonts.conf It is working ok now. It is using an automatic alternative in the absence of Lucida Grande. I can't say exactly what font it is using, but it is probably what is configured as firefox default (Dejavu Sans). (That trick with firefox console don't show the actual font, only the one chosen by the webmaster) So, as a (second) solution, now I would again try to finish this thread with (solved). In summary: Do not install crap Lucida Grande fonts on your system. If I find a better solution on days to come, I reply to this email. Att., -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: Missing a "9" (possible font missing)
Dear Dan, Yes, this test indeed solved the "9" becoming a dash. I could let that as is, but after many years using linux I learned that the less you personalize your system, the less headache you will have in the future. So, how can I undo some probable mistake in my system and get it back to what it is like when first installed? Is there a debian package for Lucida Grande. I know I've tried to install many out-of-repositories alternatives for Lucida Grande that I'm willing to remove them all. Thanks, Béco On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 12:58, Dan Ritter wrote: > Beco wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 20:03, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > Beco wrote: > > > > Guess I was wrong. The problem persists, now it looks like the > problem is > > > > Helvetica. > > > > > > > > I found this link: > > > > > > > > https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/2120514?hl=en > > > > > > > > I don't use chrome, I use firefox. But it appears that the problem > > > happens > > > > in both browsers. > > > > > > > > Still a mystery. > > > > > > > > > Open up the offending page in Firefox. Find a paragraph where > > > the 9 is missing. > > > > > > Use the three-bar menu, Web Developer, Inspector. That should > > > open up a debugging console underneath the webpage. > > > > > > On the left of the debugging console you should see a tree of > > > HTML elements. When you mouse over them, they will be > > > highlighted and so will the relevant portion of the page. Some > > > parts of the tree might be folded down into triangles, which you > > > can open up. > > > > > > Find the smallest element that contains the 9. Click on it in > > > the tree to select it. > > > > > > Now look over at the right side of the debugging console. > > > There's a Fonts tab. It will show you the precise font being > > > used. > > > > > > That is your culprit. Tell us and we'll see if we can help you > > > remove it. > > > > > > -dsr- > > > > > > > > > Thanks Dan, > > > > Did that. Still Lucida Grande. > > > > I failed to install this font like 3 times from 3 different download > sites. > > > > Any official debian solution to it? > > > Let's try substitution at the X11 layer. > > This syntax in your ~/.fonts.conf will change the response for one > font into an answer from another: > > > Lucida Grande > > DejaVu Sans > > > > Add as many stanzas as you like; then run fc-cache and restart > your application. > > -dsr- > -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: Missing a "9" (possible font missing)
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 20:03, Dan Ritter wrote: > Beco wrote: > > Guess I was wrong. The problem persists, now it looks like the problem is > > Helvetica. > > > > I found this link: > > > > https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/2120514?hl=en > > > > I don't use chrome, I use firefox. But it appears that the problem > happens > > in both browsers. > > > > Still a mystery. > > > Open up the offending page in Firefox. Find a paragraph where > the 9 is missing. > > Use the three-bar menu, Web Developer, Inspector. That should > open up a debugging console underneath the webpage. > > On the left of the debugging console you should see a tree of > HTML elements. When you mouse over them, they will be > highlighted and so will the relevant portion of the page. Some > parts of the tree might be folded down into triangles, which you > can open up. > > Find the smallest element that contains the 9. Click on it in > the tree to select it. > > Now look over at the right side of the debugging console. > There's a Fonts tab. It will show you the precise font being > used. > > That is your culprit. Tell us and we'll see if we can help you > remove it. > > -dsr- > Thanks Dan, Did that. Still Lucida Grande. I failed to install this font like 3 times from 3 different download sites. Any official debian solution to it? Thanks. Dr. Bèco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: Missing a "9" (possible font missing)
Hi guys,
A while ago I started this thread.
After installing tt-mscorefonsts-installer I wrote a new email with the
subject "solved" on it.
Guess I was wrong. The problem persists, now it looks like the problem is
Helvetica.
I found this link:
https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/2120514?hl=en
I don't use chrome, I use firefox. But it appears that the problem happens
in both browsers.
Still a mystery.
Maybe I messed up my system fonts. I wonder if there is a way to clean all
fonts and the the system back to its original set of fonts from the
installation.
Any clue on how to do that?
My best,
Bèco
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 19:04, Michael Lange wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:39:24 -0400
> Larry Martell wrote:
>
>
> >
> > There are many font finder apps. I use the WhatFont Chrome extension.
> > That page looks to be entirely in Verdana.
> >
>
> that depends on which fonts you have installed, according to the style
> sheet the requested font for the body is one of:
>
> "Segoe UI", Verdana, "Lucida Grande", Arial, Helvetica,sans-serif;
>
> however in the section "für die Turnierdatenbank" (tournament database)
> there is only
>
> FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Helvetica;
>
> Maybe this is the problem (although I would be surprised to learn that
> neither firefox nor chrome can handle this)? Anyway, installing
> ttf-mscorefonts-installer might be worth a try.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
>
> .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.
>
> There's a way out of any cage.
> -- Captain Christopher Pike, "The Menagerie" ("The Cage"),
>stardate unknown.
>
>
--
Dr Beco
A.I. researcher
"I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure
you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan
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Re: (solved) Re: Missing a "9" (possible font missing)
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 06:37, Nicolas George wrote: > Beco (12019-10-21): > > Installing: > > > > # apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer > > > > solved the mystery. > > No, it hid it. > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas George > Hello Nicolas, Yes, you are right, from the point of view of whoever is the webmaster. But as I'm just a user in this case, it is solved in my end. I'll send an email to the webmaster to let them know about the problem. Though I have no hopes, and no intention to follow up. Thanks, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
(solved) Re: Missing a "9" (possible font missing)
Dear Michael, You got it right: [...] > "Segoe UI", Verdana, "Lucida Grande", Arial, Helvetica,sans-serif; > > however in the section "für die Turnierdatenbank" (tournament database) > there is only > > FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Helvetica; > > Maybe this is the problem (although I would be surprised to learn that > neither firefox nor chrome can handle this)? Anyway, installing > > ttf-mscorefonts-installer might be worth a try. > > Regards > Michael > Installing: # apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer solved the mystery. Thanks. Att., Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Missing a "9" (possible font missing)
Hi guys, When I open this website: https://chess-results.com/ Every "9" is written as a dash "-". If you look for any event year for the current year you (well, at least me) will see 201- I'm not sure how this come to be. I tried to look at the "html page source" to detect what font it uses, but I saw no explanation there. Some time ago I remember removing A LOT of fonts I don't need from my computer (mostly not-latin). So maybe I removed something I shouldn't. I tried with firefox and google chrome, both the same results. I installed back fonts-ibm-plex and fonts-noto-core to test, but still no "9" at the page. I thought maybe it was a site problem, but when I used virtualbox and chrome over windows 10, the "9" was there. I changed the default font from firefox to "liberartion sans" but no luck. Not sure how to proceed. What is the mystery? My best, Bèco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: (solved) Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi
Hello guys, As I promised, here a more detailed solution, with the steps I really used: The problem: * You have a Windows 10 UEFI and a Linux Legacy boot. They both work, but to choose what to boot you need to change the BIOS option each time. Possible solutions discussed in the thread: 1. Let it be. Don't try to fix what ain't broke. 2. Try to make grub legacy find and boot windows 3. Move Linux boot to UEFI as well. Solution I chose was 3: lets move Linux Legacy to Linux UEFI under these conditions. Step-by-step solution to "MY" case. Be careful as your system might have small differences that would make a huge difference in the end. Special attention to /dev/sdXN partition names and the respective UUID used in FSTAB. First step: with a UEFI setup on BIOS, bring up the Linux Legacy. To do this, you need to boot from a USB stick, as your Linux won't boot. Then you need to give control to the Linux on the harddrive (chroot). The steps are: # boot do debian live of your choice, preferred the same version you have on HD. You will need the internet. Check if apt-get is working on your live system. Maybe install some innocuous/small package like "ascii" Create a point for the new root (in my example it is in sda8): # mkdir /mnt/root # mount -t ext4 /dev/sda8 /mnt/root Now we need to setup the EFI boot # mkdir /mnt/rooot/boot/efi Find your current UEFI partition (maybe fdisk -l will help you), then mount it: # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/rooot/boot/efi Now prep to change root. Mount all essencial filesystems: # mount --bind /sys /mnt/rooot/sys/ # mount --bind /proc /mnt/rooot/proc/ # mount --bind /dev /mnt/rooot/dev/ # mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/rooot/dev/pts/ # mount --bind /run /mnt/rooot/run/ Be sure the internet will work after chroot with: # cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/root/etc/resolv.conf Find the correct UUID of the UEFI partition. You will need this information to add to fstab file. (Use commands like blkid or fdisk -l -o +UUID or ls /dev/disk/by-uuid) Add it to your FSTAB echo "UUID=A2YOUR14-9UUID22 /boot/efi vfat defaults0 2" >> /mnt/rooot/etc/fstab Now finally, do the magic: chroot /mnt/root You should now "be" on the main Linux on your HD. Test apt-get to be sure with some small/useless package. You really don't want to mess up the following commands! # apt-get install figlet This is the "almost" irreversible part. Until now you were playing with kid's commands. Remove the old legacy grub. Add the new UEFI grub Re-install the grub menu and hopefully it will recognize your windows. # apt-get remove grub-pc # apt-get install grub-efi # grub-install /dev/sda Check if this file exists, to be sure you are on a UEFI partition now: # file /boot/efi/EFI/debian/grubx64.efi Chek also the output of this command and find DEBIAN there: # efibootmgr Go back to your old root # exit Remove your USB-stick and... # reboot Check this website for some other insights: https://blog.getreu.net/projects/legacy-to-uefi-boot/ On my machine I needed also to remove this options in the BIOS: BIOS - removed secure boot That is all. Have a good hacking. My best, Dr. Béco PS. These instructions come WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY. Always have your backup ready to reinstall everything. On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 18:15, Beco wrote: > > Hello all, > > Thank you very much for all this thread and discussion. > > Let me get back to you. > > On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 18:26, Pascal Hambourg > wrote: > > > Dear Pascal, > > > >> >> If Windows boots in EFI mode : >> Mount the EFI partition on /boot/efi. >> Install grub-efi-amd64. >> Boot some Linux media in EFI mode. >> Chroot into the Debian system, mount the usual pseudo-filesystems >> (/proc, /dev...) and the EFI partition. >> Run grub-install. >> Run update-grub. >> Done. >> >> >> > > Your simplified solution nailed it! Thank you. > > I mark this thread as solved basically because of this small paragraph. So > if you are reading this in the near future trying to find a solution, this > step-by-step and some duckduckgo will get you into business. > > > There are more details for a complete response, and some commands needs to > be in a different order, that I'll reply later in this thread, just to make > sure the procedure that I made and worked flawlessly, is registered for > posterity. > > For now, if you are in a hurry, this answer above will get you in the > right path. > > My best, > > Beco > > > > -- > Dr Beco > A.I. researcher > > "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure > you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan > > GPG Key: > https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A > Creation date: pgp
(solved) Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi
Hello all, Thank you very much for all this thread and discussion. Let me get back to you. On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 18:26, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Dear Pascal, > > If Windows boots in EFI mode : > Mount the EFI partition on /boot/efi. > Install grub-efi-amd64. > Boot some Linux media in EFI mode. > Chroot into the Debian system, mount the usual pseudo-filesystems > (/proc, /dev...) and the EFI partition. > Run grub-install. > Run update-grub. > Done. > > > Your simplified solution nailed it! Thank you. I mark this thread as solved basically because of this small paragraph. So if you are reading this in the near future trying to find a solution, this step-by-step and some duckduckgo will get you into business. There are more details for a complete response, and some commands needs to be in a different order, that I'll reply later in this thread, just to make sure the procedure that I made and worked flawlessly, is registered for posterity. For now, if you are in a hurry, this answer above will get you in the right path. My best, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi
Hi guys, I have this laptop problem to solve: the original windows 10 is kept, shrunk partition to 1TB, originally cryptographied (but now normal). The rest was given to Linux, Debian 10: 800GB root and 8.2GB swap. Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one you want, you need to enter the BIOS, change legacy to UEFI, and vice-versa, then you can boot. Not a good way to keep. Lets give the devices some names. /dev/sda4 is windows 10 /dev/sda5 is debian buster 10 /dev/sda6 is swap Other partitions are the usual that comes with a Windows Dell laptop (boot, backup, etc.) Grub is installed at sda5 with Debian, but when updated it doesn't recognize A Windows partition. Can you point me to a possible howto, blog, set of instructions or even abstract ideas that are in the right direction? My best, -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
(solved) Re: Debian 10 freezes upon shutdown, reboot and logout
Short answer: # apt-get install nvidia-detect and then you install the driver it recommends after detection. That is it. alternative version: the driver nouveau is broken (for my system). It not only hangs the system during the tasks on the subject of this email, but also during init 1, init 3, a simple alt+f1 to get a tty, etc. And sometimes doing nothing, just using the computer (say, gimp, editing an image). To test without the necessity to change the system and risk a "blank screen", I went in the BIOS and disabled the nvidia graphic card, letting only the intel_integrated card running. The system booted flawlessly, with no nouveau driver. Worked just fine. Then I just installed nvidia proprietary on top of it, getting nouveau automatically removed in the process. A few boots, reboots, shutdowns and logouts after, just to be sure, and voilà! The system is perfect. Cheers, Beco On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 00:31, Beco wrote: > Some updates on testing I'm doing: > > $ init 1 > also hangs > > Booting from grub using init 3 gave me a single chance to reboot without > hanging, other variables being acpi=off. But somehow I was not able to > reproduce the behaviour. > > Messages appearing on screen when init 3 was running, or in kernel.log: > > --- > TTM Buffer eviction failed > nouveau DRM failed idle channel 0 > --- > > > Now the messages below appear while the shutting down (or rebooting) is > running its course, so I have no terminal at hand. Just the notifications > scrolling: > (I took a picture with a mobile and wrote them by hand. Forgive any typos > or abbreviations) > > after init 1 or reboot or shutdown actually > > INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: > rcu: $3-...0: (0 ticks this GP) idle=51a/1/0x4 > rcu: $(detected by 6, t=5252 jiffies, g...) > NMI watchdog: Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 3 > INFO: rcu_sched detected expedited stalls on CPUs/tasks: > rcu: blocking rcu_node structures: > watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#5 stuck for 23s! [systemd:1] > ... > repeats in an endless loop > ... > > INFO: task irq/87-ELANO611:556 blocked for more than 120 seconds > Tainted: GWOEL4.19.0-6-amd64 #1 Debian 4.19.67-2+deb10u1 > echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs disables this message > ... > repeats for other tasks (haveged, systemd-logind, wpa_supplicant, > dhclient, QQm1Thread, GlobalQueue, gdbus, ...) > ... > > > > i2c_transfer+0x51... > elan_i2c_get_report+0x1c... > ? __switch_to+0x8c/0x440... > elan_isr+0x4b... > ? __schedule+0x2aa... > ? __wake_up_common_lock+... > ? irq_finalize_oneshot > irq_thread_fn+0x1f... > kthread+0x112 > ret_from_fork+... > watchdog: BUG: soft lockup... > Modules linked in: ufs qnx4 hfsplus hfs minix vfat msdos fat jfs xfs > dm_mod pc sst_ssp snd_hda_ext_core snd_soc_acpi_intel_match > x86_pkg_temp_thermal btbcm irqbypass videobuf2_vmalloc btintel ideapad_l... > pcspkr xor btrfs ecb zstd_decompre... xtables autofs4 media pcc_cpufreq... > CPU: 5 PID:: 1 Comm: systemd Tainted: G > Hardware name: LENOVO 81G3/LNVNB161216, BIOS 6JCN23WW 01/23/2018 > RIP: 0010:smp_call_function_many+0x1f8/0x250 > Code: c7 e8 6c 3f 5f 00... > RAX: 0003 RBX: 9e RCX: fff... > RDX: 0001 RSI: RDI: fff9e... > RBP: R08: R09: > R10:... R11:... R12:... > R13:... R14: R15:... > FS:... GS:... knlGS:... > CS: ... DS: ... ES: ... CRO: > CR2: CR3:... CR4: > Call Trace: > ? tcp_v6_pre_connect... > ? add_nops... > on_each_cpu... > text_poke_bp > __jump_label_transform... > arch_jump_label... > __jump_label_update... > __static_key_slow_dec_cpu... > __cgroup_bpf_detach... > __cgroup_bpf_prog_detach... > __x64_sys_bpf... > do_syscall_64+0x53/0x110 > entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x44/0xa9 > RIP: 0033: > ... > repeat, different memory dump > ... > Task dump for CPU 3: > Xorg R running task > Call Trace: > ? nvif_object_fini... > ?nouveaus_vmm_fini > ?nouveau_cli_fini > ?nouveau_drm_postcl... > ?drm_file_free.part > ?drm_release+... > ?__fput > ?task_work_run... > ?do_exit > ?handle_mm_fault > ?do_group_exit > ?__x64_sys_exit_group... > do_syscall_64+0x53/0x110 > entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x44/0xa9 > > > -- > > > I would prefer to read that on logs instead of a mobile picture... Not > sure yet what logs to look (or maybe turn on) > > dmesg shows only the starting process, not the hanging avenue when trying > to shutdown. > > Thanks for any help or tip. > > Att., > Beco > > > > > > > On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 at 21:27, Beco wrote: > >> >>
Re: Debian 10 freezes upon shutdown, reboot and logout
Some updates on testing I'm doing: $ init 1 also hangs Booting from grub using init 3 gave me a single chance to reboot without hanging, other variables being acpi=off. But somehow I was not able to reproduce the behaviour. Messages appearing on screen when init 3 was running, or in kernel.log: --- TTM Buffer eviction failed nouveau DRM failed idle channel 0 --- Now the messages below appear while the shutting down (or rebooting) is running its course, so I have no terminal at hand. Just the notifications scrolling: (I took a picture with a mobile and wrote them by hand. Forgive any typos or abbreviations) after init 1 or reboot or shutdown actually INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: rcu: $3-...0: (0 ticks this GP) idle=51a/1/0x4 rcu: $(detected by 6, t=5252 jiffies, g...) NMI watchdog: Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 3 INFO: rcu_sched detected expedited stalls on CPUs/tasks: rcu: blocking rcu_node structures: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#5 stuck for 23s! [systemd:1] ... repeats in an endless loop ... INFO: task irq/87-ELANO611:556 blocked for more than 120 seconds Tainted: GWOEL4.19.0-6-amd64 #1 Debian 4.19.67-2+deb10u1 echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs disables this message ... repeats for other tasks (haveged, systemd-logind, wpa_supplicant, dhclient, QQm1Thread, GlobalQueue, gdbus, ...) ... i2c_transfer+0x51... elan_i2c_get_report+0x1c... ? __switch_to+0x8c/0x440... elan_isr+0x4b... ? __schedule+0x2aa... ? __wake_up_common_lock+... ? irq_finalize_oneshot irq_thread_fn+0x1f... kthread+0x112 ret_from_fork+... watchdog: BUG: soft lockup... Modules linked in: ufs qnx4 hfsplus hfs minix vfat msdos fat jfs xfs dm_mod pc sst_ssp snd_hda_ext_core snd_soc_acpi_intel_match x86_pkg_temp_thermal btbcm irqbypass videobuf2_vmalloc btintel ideapad_l... pcspkr xor btrfs ecb zstd_decompre... xtables autofs4 media pcc_cpufreq... CPU: 5 PID:: 1 Comm: systemd Tainted: G Hardware name: LENOVO 81G3/LNVNB161216, BIOS 6JCN23WW 01/23/2018 RIP: 0010:smp_call_function_many+0x1f8/0x250 Code: c7 e8 6c 3f 5f 00... RAX: 0003 RBX: 9e RCX: fff... RDX: 0001 RSI: RDI: fff9e... RBP: R08: R09: R10:... R11:... R12:... R13:... R14: R15:... FS:... GS:... knlGS:... CS: ... DS: ... ES: ... CRO: CR2: CR3:... CR4: Call Trace: ? tcp_v6_pre_connect... ? add_nops... on_each_cpu... text_poke_bp __jump_label_transform... arch_jump_label... __jump_label_update... __static_key_slow_dec_cpu... __cgroup_bpf_detach... __cgroup_bpf_prog_detach... __x64_sys_bpf... do_syscall_64+0x53/0x110 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x44/0xa9 RIP: 0033: ... repeat, different memory dump ... Task dump for CPU 3: Xorg R running task Call Trace: ? nvif_object_fini... ?nouveaus_vmm_fini ?nouveau_cli_fini ?nouveau_drm_postcl... ?drm_file_free.part ?drm_release+... ?__fput ?task_work_run... ?do_exit ?handle_mm_fault ?do_group_exit ?__x64_sys_exit_group... do_syscall_64+0x53/0x110 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x44/0xa9 -- I would prefer to read that on logs instead of a mobile picture... Not sure yet what logs to look (or maybe turn on) dmesg shows only the starting process, not the hanging avenue when trying to shutdown. Thanks for any help or tip. Att., Beco On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 at 21:27, Beco wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently having issues with a LENOVO ideapad320. > > Using Stretch was smooth. But this weekend I've updated to Buster and I'm > having trouble to shutdown the system. > Rebooting also freezes. > > Watchdog says the CPU number #something is 22 seconds froze. > > I usually don't use "logout" since it is my personal laptop and I only > uses KDE, but I've decided to give i3wm a try and because of that I > discovered that not only shutdown and reboot hangs the system, but also > logout. > > I need to finish shutdown with SysReq commands everytime to sync, umount > and turn off. > > Not sure what logs I need to look, but kern.log shows nouveau driver > having problems. Not much to go after, but may be a tip. > Also, I've tried to add ACPI=force to grub, just in case, to test. Nothing > changed. > > A small detail: my var partition is separated from the root. I'm telling > this because in the old system ever reboot gave me a "unable to umount > var". But it was ok. When I installed Stretch in 2018 I researched the > problem and it was only a warning from journal.conf that could be solved by > using "volatile". Anyway, I even considered to move /var to the root just > to test, but after reading more about the problem I decided not to pursue > this way. > > It must be something else... Maybe I could try to remove nouveau just to > test. But since removing and adding nouveau is really hard, and the video > is working great, I want to check with you g
Debian 10 freezes upon shutdown, reboot and logout
Hi, I'm currently having issues with a LENOVO ideapad320. Using Stretch was smooth. But this weekend I've updated to Buster and I'm having trouble to shutdown the system. Rebooting also freezes. Watchdog says the CPU number #something is 22 seconds froze. I usually don't use "logout" since it is my personal laptop and I only uses KDE, but I've decided to give i3wm a try and because of that I discovered that not only shutdown and reboot hangs the system, but also logout. I need to finish shutdown with SysReq commands everytime to sync, umount and turn off. Not sure what logs I need to look, but kern.log shows nouveau driver having problems. Not much to go after, but may be a tip. Also, I've tried to add ACPI=force to grub, just in case, to test. Nothing changed. A small detail: my var partition is separated from the root. I'm telling this because in the old system ever reboot gave me a "unable to umount var". But it was ok. When I installed Stretch in 2018 I researched the problem and it was only a warning from journal.conf that could be solved by using "volatile". Anyway, I even considered to move /var to the root just to test, but after reading more about the problem I decided not to pursue this way. It must be something else... Maybe I could try to remove nouveau just to test. But since removing and adding nouveau is really hard, and the video is working great, I want to check with you guys first for more fresh ideas. Has anyone had trouble shutting down Buster? What other options do I have to try to find the problem and a possible solution? Any other logs may be of interest? Thanks. Bèco, -- Linux user since it was called "just a hobby" (by L. Torvald) -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Install fest debian linux - Recife/Brazil - UPE/POLI - Oct, 05, 19
Dear Debian users, It is with great satisfaction that I'm bringing you this news. We (UPE/POLI, Recife, BR) are holding a *Linux Install Fest / Debian*, next Oct, 05, 19. Please, if you are from Debian marketing department, or know the proper channels, help us to share this news officially. If you are responsible for the news, you may contact me directly for more information. Thank you. Prof. Dr. Ruben Carlo Benante - organizer. PS. Attention: if you want to attend, be aware that there are limited spots available. Event link: http://csec.poli.br/eventos/semana-universitaria/ PPS. *Moderators* of other lists, please approve this one-time message from a sender that is not subscribed, or if otherwise, please be kind to forward this email yourself. Thank you very much for your support. -- Forwarded message - From: Prof. Dr. Ruben Carlo Benante Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 22:06 Subject: Re: Install fest debian linux To: all debian linux users Boa noite senhores e senhoras, É com muita alegria e satisfação que informo sobre a pré-inscrição do evento na SU que iremos realizar (*): *Linux Install Fest / Debian!* Será durante o evento da SEMANA UNIVERSITÁRIA, no último dia, Data: sábado, 05/Out/19. Local: LIP7 Horário: das 9h as 17h Tragam seus notebooks e dêem o seu grito de liberdade! Com estimas! Prof. Ruben PS. Vagas limitadas! PPS. (*) Ainda aguardo o aval da Extensão para confirmar o evento, local e hora, mas deixo este email como "teaser" e é quase certo que o dia/horário será mantido. Volto a confirmar com vocês todos na segunda-feira. Por favor, espalhem a notícia aos quatro ventos. -- Prof. Dr. Ruben Carlo Benante UPE - Universidade de Pernambuco ECOMP - Eng. da Computação DCA - Eng. de Controle e Automação (Mecatrônica) Rua Benfica, 455 - Madalena CEP 50720-001 - Recife - PE PABX: +55 (81) 3184-7555 FAX: +55 (81) 3184-7501 DCA: +55 (81) 3184-7570 "As I grow older, I pay less attention to what men say. I just watch what they do." (Carnegie) -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Install fest debian linux - Recife/Brazil - UPE/POLI - Oct, 05, 19
Dear Debian users, It is with great satisfaction that I'm bringing you this news. We (UPE/POLI, Recife, BR) are holding a *Linux Install Fest / Debian*, next Oct, 05, 19. Please, if you are from Debian marketing department, or know the proper channels, help us to share this news officially. If you are responsible for the news, you may contact me directly for more information. Thank you. Prof. Dr. Ruben Carlo Benante - organizer. PS. Attention: if you want to attend, be aware that there are limited spots available. Event link: http://csec.poli.br/eventos/semana-universitaria/ PPS. *Moderators* of other lists, please approve this one-time message from a sender that is not subscribed, or if otherwise, please be kind to forward this email yourself. Thank you very much for your support. -- Forwarded message - From: Prof. Dr. Ruben Carlo Benante Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 22:06 Subject: Re: Install fest debian linux To: all debian linux users Boa noite senhores e senhoras, É com muita alegria e satisfação que informo sobre a pré-inscrição do evento na SU que iremos realizar (*): *Linux Install Fest / Debian!* Será durante o evento da SEMANA UNIVERSITÁRIA, no último dia, Data: sábado, 05/Out/19. Local: LIP7 Horário: das 9h as 17h Tragam seus notebooks e dêem o seu grito de liberdade! Com estimas! Prof. Ruben PS. Vagas limitadas! PPS. (*) Ainda aguardo o aval da Extensão para confirmar o evento, local e hora, mas deixo este email como "teaser" e é quase certo que o dia/horário será mantido. Volto a confirmar com vocês todos na segunda-feira. Por favor, espalhem a notícia aos quatro ventos. -- Prof. Dr. Ruben Carlo Benante UPE - Universidade de Pernambuco ECOMP - Eng. da Computação DCA - Eng. de Controle e Automação (Mecatrônica) Rua Benfica, 455 - Madalena CEP 50720-001 - Recife - PE PABX: +55 (81) 3184-7555 FAX: +55 (81) 3184-7501 DCA: +55 (81) 3184-7570 "As I grow older, I pay less attention to what men say. I just watch what they do." (Carnegie) -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: all files moved to lost+found
Hello guys, Just an update. I was lead to believe that a problem with the UUID in the file: $ cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume RESUME=UUID=e07e74f3-fa2f-blablabla caused the error. For some reason, this UUID was not reflecting the real UUID of the swap file. I was about to mark this as "solved" by that. But for my surprise, look at this events (reported as an image here in imagebin, sorry about that): https://ibin.co/4IZlwCvE6Ey0.png After gcc fatal error saying the file (that is open in another terminal, with vim, which I just compiled a few lines above successfully,) didn't exist, I went to the other terminal, typed ":w" in vim, so to save it again, and back to the compile terminal it found the file. How come!?? It is amazing. This machine is doomed, or the system, not sure. Something is really wrong here. I can lose files just like that!? Thanks for any input. Att., Beco. PS. Maybe I should start a new installation from scratch, or maybe just to be sure, start using the dual boot I've installed as Devuan, which I'm still not fully using. It is just there, just in case. I don't know. Maybe it is a KDE thing, because I tried to TEST all hardware (disk and memory). PS. Ok, I was fast in screenshot, afraid to lose the error. But now that I wrote this email easily, here it is, the same info in the image above, as text. No need to see the image anyway. [20181010.010115, !5088]$ gcc mequine.c -o mequine.x -Wall -Wextra -g -O0 mequine.c: In function ‘main’: mequine.c:21:17: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘printcscc’ [ -Wimplicit-function-declaration] printcscc(s[6]); ^ [20181010.010304, !5088]$ gcc mequine.c -o mequine.x -Wall -Wextra -g -O0 gcc: error: mequine.c: No such file or directory gcc: fatal error: no input files compilation terminated. [20181010.010328, !5088]$ gcc mequine.c -o mequine.x -Wall -Wextra -g -O0 [20181010.010345, !5088]$ springe ~/tmp/nofileScreenshot_20181010_010612.png status:4IZlwCvE6Ey0 url:https://ibin.co/4IZlwCvE6Ey0.png *>>>> It was a simple cycle: compile, error, fix, save, compile again (AND THE FILE DISAPPEARED), save again, compile again (ALL GOOD).* On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 10:33, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 05 October 2018 08:53:14 Beco wrote: > > > Dear linux users, > > > > The memtest86+ came out clean. > > > > I run out of ideas to what was the problem. > > > > Wasn't it a very serious problem I would already stop writing emails. > > But to have the whole /home disappear, is something that changes your > > expectations for the whole linux experience. > > > > It has to have a simple explanation hidden somewhere (and > > testable/repeatable/provable, not just guesses) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Beco > > In that event, I'd be checking the drive makers web site for firmware > updates for YOUR drive(s) > > Seagate is pretty good about that. > > I'm not saying this is your problem, but it is something to investigate. > > The last 1T drive I updated had already used up 25 sectors as > re-allocated at < 5,000 spinning hours. After the update it was about > 25% faster, and 80,000+ spinning hours later, still had that same 25 > re-allocated sectors. Its a good drive yet but amanda needed more space, > so it got replaced with a 2T drive. Stretch isn't stable yet,way too > many networking problems so I'll probably wait till buster turns stable. > Networking already Just Works from the reports I read here. > > -- > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: all files moved to lost+found
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 01:07, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > But the journal is passing through on-disk controller, too. If the drive is > mishandling its on-drive cache, then an FS corruption is still possible. > Even > if journal writes are "direct", the drive could be ignoring that (i.e. > caches > it nevertheless) without flushing it prior to power-off, corrupting the > journal > as well. > > If the FS survives through reboots, but falters when the laptop is power > cycled, then a cache flush issue is still probable. > > Another test method might be hibernation. If resume from hibernation works, > then that rules out on-disk caching problem. > > Regards > -- > Abdullah Ramazanoğlu > > > Thanks Abdullah, (Somehow your message went to spam) I'll try hibernation test. Good idea. This behaviour has to have something to do with cache. I don't see how this could happen otherwise. Regards, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: all files moved to lost+found
Dear linux users, The memtest86+ came out clean. I run out of ideas to what was the problem. Wasn't it a very serious problem I would already stop writing emails. But to have the whole /home disappear, is something that changes your expectations for the whole linux experience. It has to have a simple explanation hidden somewhere (and testable/repeatable/provable, not just guesses) Thanks, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: all files moved to lost+found
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 08:34, songbird wrote: > also, perhaps malware is a possibility? once you said > chrome and other backport repositories i'm not sure i'd > > Of course it crosses ones mind, but from backport I used ONLY nvidia, then back to nouveau when the video card wasn't recognized. Chrome as malware facilitator, yes, it could be, but I doubt this strange thing would happen. Lets try to focus on other possible explanations before assuming that. But I'll run some sort of scanner just to be 100% sure, thanks. We need to keep in mind what happened if we are to solve the puzzle. I don't know if there would be, for example, a LOG referring kernel panic at some level. Maybe somehow there is a EXT4 table of inodes that got lost? I'm not sure how that would be. Is there anyone more familiar with the implementation of linux, or we are just users guessing? Reporting back the HD test, after the seagate destructive test, I can safely rule out that the HD is in perfect condition. I also installed a new grub menu (memtest86+) and I'll let it running tonight. Tomorrow I'll post the results. After HD and RAM, I would go to intel chip. It baffles me that nowadays, every now and then, there is a new microcode update. Intel really did a job on all of us. Also, maybe systemd has some services that could do something like that. Not sure. I used a new partition to install Devuan today. The dual boot is set. Both distros are running ok, no problems at all, not signs of nothing. Just a empty /home. This is really something new for me. I'm in this list since emails were sent by paper, and I never saw that, even once. My best, Beco. PS. Just to remind us how strange it is: stay 5 seconds wondering: lost+found$ ls http://sprunge.us/FlKCOY -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: all files moved to lost+found
> > >> Is the "swap" partition something that could cause that if turned off by > >> "swapoff"? > > > > I don't think so. > > +1 > > Good, I also suspected so. I'm a linux user since slackware installed from floppies, I never saw something like that! Look this "ls" command in the lost+found folder. It is amazing. Some of those numbers are actually folders containing other files. Files inside the folder have their names, which make things easier. Be amazed: http://sprunge.us/FlKCOY The whole /home disapeared, EXCEPT: http://sprunge.us/KnXpEJ Isn't that puzzling?? I did last time only non-destructive tests using the seagate tool. I could just today make a full backup (not that I was ignoring anyone, I know the importance of backups. My laptop stayed turned off until I got the time to properly do it). Now it is running a destructive test, and it will take more 5 hours to finish. Until now (46%) all good. Anyway, I don't believe it is a HD issue. If it was a cache not sync, it would affect only like 100 files opened at the time of turning it off. Not the whole drive. Regarding the "shop list", I use debian since etch (I used redhat before it was sold, and suse -- again sold), and it is my policy to (almost) never install software if not from sources. I only installed I believe "scidvspc" (a chess program) in other laptop, not this one. I have 3 laptops, 2 local servers, 1 server in my name at the university (as I'm a professor and my students use them), and 2 outside the country (rented), all of them using the same debian version. $ uname -a Linux raposa 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.110-3+deb9u5 (2018-09-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list # generated by # Debian Sources List Generator (Beta) # 2013-01-13 # http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free add to that the google chrome repository and we are done. (I used also skype and spotify, not in repos, but again, not in this particular laptop, so, yep... brand new laptop, 3 months of usage, still tweeking it, setting my develop environment, vim, gcc, latex, fonts, etc.) About the hardware itself, I add, from lshw: description: Notebook product: 81G3 (LENOVO_MT_81G3_BU_idea_FM_ideapad 320-15IKB) vendor: LENOVO version: Lenovo ideapad 320-15IKB description: CPU product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz Other informations on this command regarding HD is not updated, since this is a file from a backup and I can't run the command in the current machine state (and I changed HD and added SSD to it). But the memory (RAM) is SAMSUNG 8GB and a nvidia card with 4GB (that won't work, and I remember adding backports to sources.apt and trying, then giving up, removing backports, and cleaning the packages from it). Also, another nice question you guys asked: hybernation or sleep: I never use them. I always turn off completely, then in the next day, turn it on. What else? Did I forget something? Sorry, I need to go to sleep now. I'll keep updating as soon as I can, not so fast as I wish. Thanks for your interest and tips. My best, Béco PS. I see this now: > Another test method might be hibernation. If resume from hibernation works, > then that rules out on-disk caching problem. > I'll do it only after the destructive test is done, and I re-fill the /home. I'm also thinking in installing a second linux distro in another 200GB partition I have free in the 2TB drive. (Summary: 2TB is 200GB free - reserved for the future, 8GB swap, and the rest is /home) OP done for today. Sincerely, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: all files moved to lost+found
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 15:25, David Christensen
wrote:
>
> Download and run Seagate's diagnostic tool on the 2 TB drive:
>
> https://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/seatools/
>
> (I have been using the bootable CD image for years ("legacy"), but it
> looks like they finally have a bootable USB image.)
>
> Use a camera and take pictures of the various screens. Transcribe them
> into a reply to this list.
>
>
>
>
Dear David, hi guys/girls that are following this problem.
First, the delay in my response is due to the fact that I'm fighting a lot
of parallel battles here, but I'm still trying to solve this problem.
In the next days I'll always try to reply.
I've done the bootable seagate HD test. It came up 100% ok, all tests. The
HD is new, I wouldn't expect different, but it is always reassuring to do
the real test and see the results.
To recap, I used the computer all day, since morning until late night. From
time to time, say, about 3 times that day, I noticed a small 5 seconds long
freeze. Sometimes, in other days, KDE wouldn't open plasmashell, but I did
not need to reboot; just open tty1, and run systemctl restart sddm, and it
would run ok. Not sure if this is related.
That night, I turned off the computer, no errors, nothing.
Next morning, first boot, it booted fast and I was faced with an empty
desktop. Also empty /home. After e2fsck, all my files reappeared as inode
numbers in lost+found. I was able to recover some of them, and I have
backup for others. But I'm not still putting them on the hard disk.
I'm still waiting for possible causes or solutions, or just to know what
have happened in the first place.
Is the "swap" partition something that could cause that if turned off by
"swapoff"? Because I remember turning it off during that afternoon. But I
used the computer a LOT until night, so, I don't think there was any link
to the disappearance of ALL files. Also, when I used swapoff, it was almost
without use anyway.
I read above from Abdullah, that it is very unlike to have such major FS
fail, and it looks like it didn't "flush" the night I turned off. This is
also my guess, it is the only thing that make sense. Maybe the inode table
was in the memory and got corrupted. But it is strange to figure that,
since the filesystem is EXT4, and it is very stable nowadays.
Someonelse asked if 2TB is ok for this laptop, Causey I believe, my inbox
got deleted, but yes, this configuration accepts a 2TB; also, this would be
a problem during the installation 3 months ago, and the consequences would
be far different from the reported problem here.
Thanks all for inputs and lets reason what else. I may be able to create a
virtualbox to test some theories in the future, to get to the bottom of it.
The laptop is still in guarantee period, I need to know if there is
something really wrong or if it was just an occasional, yet rare, event.
My best,
Beco
PS. Sorry for not copying Abdullah and Causey on the reply, my inbox got
cleaned here.
--
Dr Beco
A.I. researcher
"I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure
you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan
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Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: all files moved to lost+found
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 16:40, bw wrote: > > 286699 files on a partition with only /home on it sounds a little high? > > Hi BW, the directory lost+found is also in the /home partition. Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: all files moved to lost+found
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 14:11, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:09:50 -0300 Beco said: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have a bit of a problem I never faced before and I'm in need of some > > guidance that may require some patience if to do it right and not lose > any > > data. > > > > I have a lenovo ideapad 320, and I changed its internal HD to a 2TB > > seagate, 3 months ago. > > > > In the last couple of weeks I got this "small" problem twice: > > > > Laptop won't boot saying it couldn't read /home partition. The only > > partition in the 2TB plus a swap. OS is in a SSD. > > > > So, twice I could login as root single mode, run: > > > > e2fsck -vy /dev/sda3 > > > > and boot ok after lots of messages of inodes failing to do their inodes > > thing. > > > > This time was different: I booted the machine and it won't complain, just > > opened KDE with no icons on it. Blank desktop, with my owl wallpaper. > > > > I was worried, moved to tty1, killed the desktop section and then run the > > same e2fsck above. Again, lots of inodes errors. > > > > No badblocks. I also run e2fsck -pckv /dev/sda3 which took 5 hours to > > finish, and no badblocks. > > > > Now, I rebooted it, and still, same empty /home/user > > > > I notice on the other hand that there are A LOT of files under > > /home/lost+found > > All names are just numbers in the form "#383389933" and so on. Even > > directories like that. > > > > I used "file #339938383" to see what the file is about. I found some PGN > > images, and I could also identify some of my directories. They seem to be > > all there. Just the names are crazy, and they are not in /home/user. > > > > Now that I never got before. > > > > How should I proceed? > > > > Is there a command that brings back lost+found files to theis > > "found-and-not-lost" correct places? > > > > Thanks guys. > > > > Beco > > Hi Beco, > > As I understand it you had repeated disk failures and consecutively a > massive > file-system corruption. > > The files in lost+found are those that are recovered by fsck. There are > probably unrecovered ones too (lost forever). As for restoring their > original > names and directory hierarchy, I don't know if it is possible at all - > other > than manually inspecting and renaming/relocating every one of them > separately. > I think the best course of action would be dealing with the hardware and FS > corruption issue first, and then reformatting /home and restoring from > backups. > > -- > Abdullah Ramazanoğlu > > > Dear Abdullah, Thanks for your reply. I tend to agree. I am still not sure what CAUSED the problem in the first place. If I need to change HD? (I'm not convinced, HD seems ok). Is there any kind of hardware problem with LENOVO IDEAPAD 320? Maybe... But what? And the logs... I looked at various logs, no problems, except some minor drivers that won't read (like wireless and nvidia). Same old, same old. Now this, this is my first time. To loose ALL /home?? In the first morning boot, without warning, just a clean boot and a empty desktop? What sorcery is that? Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: all files moved to lost+found
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 15:25, David Christensen
wrote:
> On 9/30/18 7:09 AM, Beco wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have a bit of a problem I never faced before and I'm in need of some
> > guidance that may require some patience if to do it right and not lose
> any
> > data.
> >
> > I have a lenovo ideapad 320, and I changed its internal HD to a 2TB
> > seagate, 3 months ago.
> >
> > In the last couple of weeks I got this "small" problem twice:
> >
> > Laptop won't boot saying it couldn't read /home partition. The only
> > partition in the 2TB plus a swap. OS is in a SSD.
> >
> > So, twice I could login as root single mode, run:
> >
> > e2fsck -vy /dev/sda3
> >
> > and boot ok after lots of messages of inodes failing to do their inodes
> > thing.
> >
> > This time was different: I booted the machine and it won't complain, just
> > opened KDE with no icons on it. Blank desktop, with my owl wallpaper.
> >
> > I was worried, moved to tty1, killed the desktop section and then run the
> > same e2fsck above. Again, lots of inodes errors.
> >
> > No badblocks. I also run e2fsck -pckv /dev/sda3 which took 5 hours to
> > finish, and no badblocks.
> >
> > Now, I rebooted it, and still, same empty /home/user
> >
> > I notice on the other hand that there are A LOT of files under
> > /home/lost+found
> > All names are just numbers in the form "#383389933" and so on. Even
> > directories like that.
> >
> > I used "file #339938383" to see what the file is about. I found some PGN
> > images, and I could also identify some of my directories. They seem to be
> > all there. Just the names are crazy, and they are not in /home/user.
> >
> > Now that I never got before.
> >
> > How should I proceed?
> >
> > Is there a command that brings back lost+found files to theis
> > "found-and-not-lost" correct places?
> >
> > Thanks guys.
> >
> > Beco
>
> Download and run Seagate's diagnostic tool on the 2 TB drive:
>
> https://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/seatools/
>
> (I have been using the bootable CD image for years ("legacy"), but it
> looks like they finally have a bootable USB image.)
>
> Use a camera and take pictures of the various screens. Transcribe them
> into a reply to this list.
>
>
> Do you have backups?
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
Thanks David,
I'll give it a try. I just run
e2fsck -pckv /dev/sda3
It lasted 5 hours running. I took a picture, here is the transcript:
286708 inodes used (0.25% of 112926720)
3776 non-contiguous files (1.3%)
84 non-contiguous dir (0%)
ind/dind/tind blocks: 0/0/0
extent depth histogram: 285759/645
67067830 blocks used (14% of 451678229)
0 bad blocks
11 large files
240878 reg files
45498 dir
0 char devs
0 block devs
2 fifos
0 links
319 symbolic links
2 sockets
-
286699 files
--
but if you look /home/user, it is just empty. Ok, I found a couple of
hidden files, like .bashrc, .profile, .config and things inside it. For
example, inside .config there are files like cache, git-config, etc.
Some are missing. My .ssh dir for example, with keys, missing.
Inside /home/lost+found is just madness
A LOT A LOT of #32432432 #2342342 #52343242 #5234234 #4234324
and many dirs:
#123123123/ #5235235234/
etc.
Should I install this software regardless? I mean, I don't want to start
installing things on the HD that I'm supposed to recover somehow.
What could cause this in the first place? Yesterday I turned it off ok,
went to sleep, and today the first boot and nothing on /home.
Regarding backup, I was afraid my last backup was 3 months old. It turns
out I have one just one month old. It is a big loss yet, but well, what can
you do after the fact...
Is it possible that this microcodes updating everyweek turned our computer
into timebombs? My laptop is new, debian was installed 3 months ago,
nothing much here.
I'm writing from my old laptop, 6 years old, debian, still working. The
same configuration I used in the new one. This old is DELL, the new one is
LENOVO.
Original HD was 1TB and no SSD. That was the only modification I made: SSD
with / root, and 2TB HD seagate with /home.
Yesterday I noticed while using google chrome to browse that everything
froze. I needed to go to tty1 (ALT+F1) and kill sddm (systemctl restart
sddm), and then back to ALT+F7 , login again, and all good to use.
Beco
--
Dr Beco
A.I. researcher
"I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure
you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan
GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A
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all files moved to lost+found
Hi everyone, I have a bit of a problem I never faced before and I'm in need of some guidance that may require some patience if to do it right and not lose any data. I have a lenovo ideapad 320, and I changed its internal HD to a 2TB seagate, 3 months ago. In the last couple of weeks I got this "small" problem twice: Laptop won't boot saying it couldn't read /home partition. The only partition in the 2TB plus a swap. OS is in a SSD. So, twice I could login as root single mode, run: e2fsck -vy /dev/sda3 and boot ok after lots of messages of inodes failing to do their inodes thing. This time was different: I booted the machine and it won't complain, just opened KDE with no icons on it. Blank desktop, with my owl wallpaper. I was worried, moved to tty1, killed the desktop section and then run the same e2fsck above. Again, lots of inodes errors. No badblocks. I also run e2fsck -pckv /dev/sda3 which took 5 hours to finish, and no badblocks. Now, I rebooted it, and still, same empty /home/user I notice on the other hand that there are A LOT of files under /home/lost+found All names are just numbers in the form "#383389933" and so on. Even directories like that. I used "file #339938383" to see what the file is about. I found some PGN images, and I could also identify some of my directories. They seem to be all there. Just the names are crazy, and they are not in /home/user. Now that I never got before. How should I proceed? Is there a command that brings back lost+found files to theis "found-and-not-lost" correct places? Thanks guys. Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
(SOLVED) Re: Xsession.d ssh-agent
On 25 November 2017 at 17:07, Ulf Volmer <u.vol...@u-v.de> wrote: > On 25.11.2017 20:27, Beco wrote: > > I've changed the line to: > > > > SSHAGENTARGS=-st36000 > > > > removing spaces and quotes, in hope it would get it. > > > > Still no solution. > > interesting. i have tried another way and it works for me: > > SSHAGENTARGS="-t 1h" > > ulf@deb9-desktop:~$ ps -ef|grep [s]sh-agent > ulf 4307 4221 0 21:04 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent -t 1h > startxfce4 > > -s is the default, so i guess you can ignore this option. > > BTW: you have replied to me personally. normally you should answer to > the mailing list. > > best regards > Ulf > Hi Ulf, hi list, Sorry about the "reply-to-all" that I forgot. Now it goes to all. So, I found this answer here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/122511/configuring-the-default- timeout-for-the-ssh-agent (in the end of the text of the accepted answer) and it says to do exactly as your second suggestion. SOLUTION: These options works: SSHAGENTARGS="-t 1h" SSHAGENTARGS="-t 3600" BUG: These causes a strange boot as KDE not initializing: SSHAGENTARGS="-s -t 3600" SSHAGENTARGS=-st3600 Thanks all, specially Ulf. Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Xsession.d ssh-agent
Dear users, Does anyone knows why KDE won't start if I change this file... ```Original $ head -n8 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent # $Id: 90x11-common_ssh-agent 305 2005-07-03 18:51:43Z dnusinow $ # This file is sourced by Xsession(5), not executed. STARTSSH= SSHAGENT=/usr/bin/ssh-agent SSHAGENTARGS= ``` ...line SSHAGENTARGS= to simple add this arguments: SSHAGENTARGS="-s -t 36000" (10h for identities lifetime) It (KDE) just freezes in a blank screen during boot. Not even the mouse cursor comes up. There it stays... Maybe that is not the place to add such arguments? Thanks, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
(SOLVED) Re: kde4 can't find file usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/lines
On 1 July 2017 at 07:02, Curt <cu...@free.fr> wrote: > On 2017-06-29, Beco <r...@beco.cc> wrote: > > >>From time to time, every one or two boots, KDE won't load, it shows a > > dialog with only an "OK" button and the message: > > > > kde can't find file usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/lines > > > I click ok and get redirected to a console login. > > > > If I just boot again, it will likely boot just fine. > > > > The first time I saw the problem was during the first boot after the > > upgrade. I didn't know then that I could just boot again, and I started > > digging in the console to realize that I could not solve the problem and > I > > started all the install process again, which took me some of my weekend > > time. > > > > I tried to google then, and today again after the problem reappears, but > I > > can't find any forum with another case similar. > > This looks similar: > > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=116488 > > > Any ideas ? Thanks. > > Yes, Curt, It is similar indeed. Also, by the solution they figured out, (editing Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen-air) I can see that it is using "kdm" instead of sddm. That is the root of the problem. A proper solution is just what I said in the previous email: install sddm as your default and remove old kdm. Thanks! Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: kde4 can't find file usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/lines
On 29 June 2017 at 16:40, Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflyby...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/29/17, Intense Red <intns...@golgotha.net> wrote: > > > >The changes between KDE in Jessie and KDE in Stretch are substantial, > > including killing off kdm and replacing it with sddm. > > > >On multiple machines I've had the upgrade go pretty rocky, not only at > > the dm level but on the desktop itself. > > > Based on what Intense Red stated along with this being about "themes", > my first thought is... what about configuration files within the > user's /home files (~/)? > > My next thought was that I could see myself trying to track down the > file hierarchy changes in the switch from kdm to sddm. Maybe there's a > similar path that could be manipulated to suit personal desires. > > Hello Cindy, First, thank you for such broad chat. Sometimes when we don't know exactly the problem it is good to just hear from someone else to just get ideas. My first thought was just try to find the freaking file somewhere in my hierarchy and, I don't know, fix it, remove write permissions, hard link, anything, just to be sure it is always there. But the file is not to be found anyware. Anyhow... > I wrote more after that, but I've deleted it. I just plugged that > "usr/share" path into an Internet search while asking "what package > contains". > > Top of the list returned was using the word "purge" with respect to > kdm. If this was happening to me, I'm getting the warm fuzzies about > that word "purge" in this case. That would be because that sounds like > a *fast* way to attempt to correct this. > > I think "purge" is an appropriate word to add to my first thought > about the personal configurations. I just don't know the what and > where with respect to being safe to purge while playing around with > it. Purging would let a user start over and catch up to speed with how > Intense Red's mention of a changeover to sddm now handles things. > > This is what I was talking about. The fact that KDE changed to SDDM was vague in my mind. Now that you mentioned it, I just checked to realize that after the upgrade I was still using KDM. I've changed to SDDM and the first boot went fine. Let's hope this is a definitive solution. > Using a word like "purge"? ALWAYS after a *BACKUP* is made, of > course Of course. *grin* > > Cindy :) > -- > Cindy-Sue Causey > Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA > > * runs with duct tape * > > I don't really dig workarounds. If I make one myself, it keeps in my mind forever, and I always try to find a solution that meets "the unix way" sooner or later. But well... whatever floats your boat, as they say... See y'a. Bèco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
kde4 can't find file usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/lines
Hi guys/girls, hello. Does anyone else have this problem with KDE4 after Jessie/Stretch upgrade? >From time to time, every one or two boots, KDE won't load, it shows a dialog with only an "OK" button and the message: kde can't find file usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/lines I click ok and get redirected to a console login. If I just boot again, it will likely boot just fine. The first time I saw the problem was during the first boot after the upgrade. I didn't know then that I could just boot again, and I started digging in the console to realize that I could not solve the problem and I started all the install process again, which took me some of my weekend time. I tried to google then, and today again after the problem reappears, but I can't find any forum with another case similar. Any ideas ? Thanks. Bèco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
April's fool
Hi guys, I admin a server with some 80 users (students) and tomorrow is april's fool. Now, help me out... What is a "reversible" prank I could play? * It should be easy to make it working in some minutes (half an hour of configuration at most). * It should be harmless and reversible (of course) * It should last the whole day, people trying to figure that out. As I am a professor, and the class just got a warning they were not studying hard enough, I can say something like It was a punishment for their laziness, so I have a "cover up" story that can scary them for sure. What are your suggestions? Thanks for playing. My best, Bèco. PS. None of them are subscribed to this list! ;) -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Bash crashed in a alias to view markdown
Hello guys,
This alias caused bash to crash:
http://sprunge.us/PMhe
The alias is now corrected to check if `$1` is empty (*), but still, bash
should not crash like this.
I'm not opening a bug report because I don't really know (nor have the time
to find out) how/where this things are correlated. Anyway, I still think
this information would be useful to those who are working closely to bash
maintainers, so here it is, shared with you.
I hope this helps.
Thank you,
Beco.
PS. All I did was calling the alias without an argument (a file to open)
and pressing CONTROL-C to interrupt it, twice in a row. And bang, crash.
(*) The new alias, in case someone finds it useful to view markdown files:
alias mdless='_mdless() { if [ -n "$1" ] ; then if [ -f "$1" ] ; then cat
<(echo ".TH $1 7 `date --iso-8601` Dr.Beco Markdown") <(pandoc -t man $1 )
| groff -K utf8 -t -T utf8 -man 2>/dev/null | less ; fi ; fi ;}; _mdless '
Just add to your ~/.bash_aliases ;)
--
Dr Beco
A.I. researcher
"I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure
you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" -- Alan Greenspan
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Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: wlan disappeared
On 6 August 2015 at 02:28, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Earlier today I picked at BIOS to see if there was something there I could change. The only reference to network there is to select where to boot from. But I'll double check to be sure. Ok, I got some results. I found on BIOS an option to disable NIC, and I did. Booted to see: # lspci -v 09:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 [Rainbow Peak] (rev 34) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 BGN Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 50 Memory at f7e0 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [e0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting Capabilities: [140] Device Serial Number 4c-eb-42-ff-ff-7b-a0-16 Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi # rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes Booted again, enabled and things got very weird. First, the FN+F2 key started working just as rffill block/unblock. So I unblocked it. At start, the network worked for a minute. I thought that all would be good. But then, NetworkManager told me wifi connection deactivated. So I run some tests: dmesg [Thu Aug 6 05:17:50 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode [Thu Aug 6 05:17:50 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: loaded firmware version 18.168.6.1 op_mode iwldvm [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Error sending REPLY_TXFIFO_FLUSH: time out after 2000ms. [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Current CMD queue read_ptr 141 write_ptr 142 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Loaded firmware version: 18.168.6.1 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Start IWL Error Log Dump: [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Status: 0x004C, count: -30718 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x14607C40 | ADVANCED_SYSASSERT [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x8802 | uPc [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x000A | branchlink1 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x | branchlink2 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x0024 | interruptlink1 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x | interruptlink2 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x14607C80 | data1 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x8802 | data2 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0xA0557620 | line [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x | beacon time [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x16192C14 | tsf low [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x8802 | tsf hi [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x | time gp1 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x | time gp2 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x14607CD8 | time gp3 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x8802 | uCode version [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0xA0416B0A | hw version [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x | board version [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x8802 | hcmd [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x0020 | isr0 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x8802 | isr1 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x14607CE8 | isr2 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x8802 | isr3 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x14607CA8 | isr4 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x8802 | isr_pref [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x15CB8000 | wait_event [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x8802 | l2p_control [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x00A01C30 | l2p_duration [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x | l2p_mhvalid [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x0001 | l2p_addr_match [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x | lmpm_pmg_sel [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x0001 | timestamp [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: 0x | flow_handler [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Log capacity -1515870811 is bogus, limit to 1 entries [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Log write index -1515870811 is bogus, limit to 1 [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Start IWL Event Log Dump: display last 1 entries [Thu Aug 6 05:22:01 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: flush request fail [Thu Aug 6 05:22:03 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Failing on timeout while stopping DMA channel 0 [0x5a5a5a5a] [Thu Aug 6 05:22:05 2015] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Failing on timeout while stopping DMA
wlan disappeared
Hi guys, Something odd happened today, on my first clean boot of the day. (notebook DELL vostro v131) Simply, no wlan0 at all. $ ifconfig -a #shows only eth0 and lo. $ lspci #shows no wifi at all (should be a Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1030 BGN Rev=0xB0) $ lshw -C Network #shows only eth0 $ rfkill list #shows nothing I checked all logs, no error. dmesg, syslog, kernelog, messages... (what else?) It simply disappeared out of the blue. I bought a usb wifi dongle to work a bit, and its working fine as wlan2. But well... What can I do, or check? Maybe try to recreate the interface. I tried $ rmmod iwlwifi $ modprobe iwlwifi but nothing seems to bring it back. Also, old dmesg shows (when it was working) that the driver should be: /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode, version 18.168.6.1 I found this driver related to * Intel Wireless 6005/6205 firmware, version 18.168.6.1 * Intel Wireless 6030 firmware, version 18.168.6.1 Not the Wireless-N 1030. Why it was working on what seemed to be the wrong firmware? Why it disappeared now? The driver * Intel Wireless 1000 firmware, version 39.31.5.1 (iwlwifi-1000-5.ucode) will work with intel Wireless-N 1030 BGN? How could I test it? Because modprobe do not select the driver. Thanks any help. Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: wlan disappeared
On 6 August 2015 at 01:04, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 23:23:35 -0300 Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Hi guys, Something odd happened today, on my first clean boot of the day. (notebook DELL vostro v131) Simply, no wlan0 at all. there is often a hardware switch which disables WLAN. Is it possible that it's been turned off ? lspci should _absolutely_ show it's existence regardless of whether or not the drivers have been loaded. Either it's off, if it's a separate card it's come loose/disconnected, or if it's on-board then you probably have a hardware failure. Brian Hi Brian, Thanks for trying to make sense of this mess. This notebook has onboard wifi, no physical switch, but a combination of keys FN+F2 that would supposedly turn it on or off. This combination never worked since day one of all older debians I started with, and I never used it. But since you mentioned, I tried some keystrokes, no luck though. Let me put lspci here. Maybe I'm mistaken. lspci shows: # lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b5) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev b5) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b5) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev b5) 00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 (rev b5) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM67 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05) 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06) 0b:00.0 USB controller: Texas Instruments TUSB73x0 SuperSpeed USB 3.0 xHCI Host Controller (rev 02) As you can see... No wifi there. I also read carefully lshw again. Nope. Nothing. Thanks, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: wlan disappeared
On 6 August 2015 at 01:54, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: i forgot to ask an important question, although i'm sure you would have mentioned it. you can't boot into Windows on this machine, right ? No windows near me in any machine. :) Sure seems like a hardware failure. I'm starting to think that also. But today this notebook is so weird, I don't know. I'm still puzzled. Maybe something debian-related, you know. These Debian Jessie 8.0 and 8.1 are a bit unstable to my taste. I hope we move on soon to 8.2.(*) oh- one other thing to try. boot up into BIOS and see if there's anything at all in there about your WLAN hardware. Earlier today I picked at BIOS to see if there was something there I could change. The only reference to network there is to select where to boot from. But I'll double check to be sure. Tx., Beco. PS. Or Debian Stretch, see my ascii-art for it (in monospaced font, please): _\O/_ /|\ -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
(solved) Re: / 100% used
Reporting solution. There was basically --- * Immediate problem: --- 1) Identify what was filling /var and stop it. In a terminal, trying to keep system useful, this command saved the day. # while true; do echo clean syslog; cat /dev/null syslog ; sleep 10; done While at it, reading syslogs to understand the problem was a wireless driver. Blacklisting it and disabling it from bios did the job. System usable again. --- * Long term solution to improve the system: --- 1) Shrink a hot /home (/dev/sda3) to free space for /var --- All done via ssh (remotely) Tip: you cant #fuser -km /home, because you'll kick yourself out. write down info from commands: # fdisk -l # df -h # df -B 4k # mount -l # du -chd1 # fdisk -s /dev/sda3 # dumpe2fs -h /dev/sda3 This is the check block. Do it again after critical commands, just to see if its all ok and the way you suppose it should be. To unmount /home you need to login as root. Not sudoing to root. So, if you are in need, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and - AllowRootLogin yes # systemctl restart ssh # ssh root@yourserver Make sure noone else can login, isolate the server. (You can lock passwords, or lock logins, whatever you may like.) # umount /home # fsck -n /dev/sda3 # resize2fs /dev/sda3 850G now 222822400 (4k) blocks long Generate how many bytes multiplying this number by 4*1024 - 912,680,550,400 bytes If your sector is 512 bytes, then divide it by 512 to get number of sectors (to be used in fdisk) 1,782,579,200 sectors Now your partition /dev/sda3 will start still in the same sector (113672192=initial), but it will end at: 1,782,579,200 + 113672192 = 1896251392 --- # fdisk /dev/sda delete sda3 new partition 3 (primary in this case) same start point (113672192) end point = 1896251392 This would be all good, and it actually works as I rebooted and tested. But to save you one boot, I regret this number because when I create the new /var partition (sda4=extended, sda5=logical var), it suggested to start at 1896253440. So, just try to create a new partition and see where it suggests to start. Subtract one from it. Delete all again, and create again sda3. (Till now, no w, nothing written, just fdisk in memory. A simple q will quit all without changes). So: summarizing: create new partition, check where it suggests starts (1896253440), delete it. Delete again sda3. new partition 3 (primary) same start point (113672192) end point = 1896253439 new partition 4 (extended) all size new partition 5 (logical) +14G for /var new partition 6 (logical) all the rest (~13G) for /tmp w (fdisk write and quit) --- # fsck -n /dev/sda3 # mount /home use all the check block of commands from above # reboot (not really necessary, but nice to see all working) # vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config AllowRootLogin no # systemctl restart ssh --- --- 2) Moving /var to /dev/sda5 --- # mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda5 # mkdir /mnt/var # mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/var Now, very important, noone can be writing to var. Research on the matter suggests the better option is to login using single mode (init 1). But via ssh, I tried something a bit risk. If you follow this instructions, its at your own risk. Be warned! # lsof | grep /var And you will see a lot of process writing into /var. Well, if you are SURE noone but you can access the system at this point, you might risk losing some seconds of VAR (logs and other stuff), but the system will recovery ok. So, ignoring the services writing to var, just do: # cp -ax /var/* /mnt/var # ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid to get the UUID to use in fstab #vi /etc/fstab Add the line: UUID=181839181821...bla...bla...bla /var ext4 defaults 0 0 Just update the new var one last time before reboot: # rsync -ihrpgu --stats --progress --delete /var /mnt/var # reboot - System will lose data from the seconds between your last rsync and the reboot. But it will boot ok, unless something very critical happens in this moment. Your system, you should know better if you can ignore this seconds (may you have apache running at full charge, or anything else that are demanding the server? Then you must avoid this and use single-mode. Google for it.) --- System back online, time to use all check commands again. Specially: # mount -l And after checking everything, your system is ready. (I did a last clean reboot just to check dmesg, all ok) I hope this email helps anyone searching for a hot change of partition remotely. It was difficult to gather information on this process. Thanks all that helped. Beco PS. I'll do the same with /tmp now. And /tmp
Re: Something wrong with NetworkManager
On 6 July 2015 at 06:18, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: I thought you are not supposed to have the same interface managed by both ifupdown and networkmanager. The wiki has: If you want NetworkManager to handle interfaces that are enabled in /etc/network/interfaces: Set managed=true in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf. Restart NetworkManager: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManage Hi Brian, Yes, you are right. I used NetworkManager alone some years now. I only turned on ifupdown yesterday after NetworkManager failed to do its job (due to some mysterious reason LOG should clarify). NetworkManager will not manage an interface listed in /etc/network/interfaces, so they say. So its not managed by both. And that is a great thing, no need to change. Because if NM goes crazy like yesterday, you can chose to change who manages it. If you change managed=true, then if NM breaks, you'll be left without options. (Well, there is WICD, but you need internet to install it) After 2 reboots and nothing else from my part except commenting the lines from /etc/network/interfaces (effectively given back control to NetworkManager) it came back alive ok. Now I'm back to it (NetworkManager) and hope it will keep up. Thanks. Beco. PS. Link: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: / 100% used
On 6 July 2015 at 12:03, Marek Salwerowicz marek_...@wp.pl wrote: Hello Beco, cut Did you read Jessie release notes before upgrading and upgrade procedures? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/index.en.html Since you teach students, it would be good to teach them best practices by running well organised and prepared server... I'd re-think the partition layout: https://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/ia64/apcs03.html.en, second paragraph: For multi-user systems or systems with lots of disk space, it's best to put /usr, /var, /tmp, and /home each on their own partitions separate from the / partition. Are there any backups / RAID for users' home directories? Please don't consider it as offensive, I'd like just to let you know that the problems you've encountered could have been much worse Good luck ;-) Cheers Marek Hi Joe, Marek, guys, Joe, I prefer not to disable it on the bios. I like to have some control over ssh. You never know. But after blacklisting it, I think the problem is solved for a while. Marek, thank you for your kind criticize. Most people don't get how to politely point problems without being rude (I'm one, but mostly because the english barrier, I tend to be dry). Why have you performed major upgrade of Operating System on running production server? Well, I had no choice. This server can't go down, and needs to be up to date. But I scheduled to vacations period. Users drop from 200- to almost zero. Never zero. This days, there are only 6 students left, 3 of them online. I am responsible for them as well. But being so many, I could help if things get very wrong. Thanks the system was down only for 2 non-consecutively hours. 1h, when the problem appear, solved with a while loop, and 1h when the next attempt failed (removing wpasupplicant). This last one was horrible, because it took me from home. Now its running using ifdownup. I think I'll let it this way for now. Until things are sorted out by Debian maintainers of what went wrong after upgrade. I still believe there was some misconfiguration issue regarding NetworkManager, specially after my notebook also broke. Did you perform backup of data before performing upgrades? Did you try it before on any development machines? Yes, I set up a backup server. It is used to test upgrades also. I upgraded it some weeks ago. No problem at all. I was quite amazed it worked flawlessly. But there are no backups during vacations, because students get out every 6 months and accounts are deleted after that. So home is almost empty (you can see that in the `df -h`) But to substitute one server to other in case of problems would take at leas a day or two of hard work. Not a good option. Also, all users (but this 6) are locked out. And only 3 are heavily using. Even those 3 did not lost any data or work. That was a very good upgrade, despite this 2 hours down. Next time, Debian 9 will not let me down! :) (And, yes, I read the release notes -- not again, but when upgrading the first system). Anyway, thank you for the tips. I will consider changing /var to another partition. (*) Given my current set up, I think its better to bring some space from /home, isn't so? How many Gigas would you use (given this particular case in hands?) /dev/sda146G 12G 33G 26% / (ext4) /dev/sda3 864G 4.0G 816G 1% /home (ext4) Current usage: $ du -hc var = 1.1 GB (ext4) usr = 8.5 GB (ext4) tmp = 200 KB (ext4) I'm thinking of: var = 10 GB usr = 20 GB tmp = 10 GB Or maybe: var = 15 GB usr = 20 GB tmp = 5 GB And keep all ext4 (to simplify my life, if that is ok, or at least not critical). (**) What configuration tool do you suggest to use for partitioning? Is it safe to do it via ssh? (***) Should I trust better NetworkManager, or let the server using ifupdown? Or change to Wicd? Thanks Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: / 100% used
On 6 July 2015 at 10:45, Linux4Bene linux4b...@telenet.be wrote: Op Sun, 05 Jul 2015 17:32:56 -0300, schreef Beco: # apt-get remove wpasupplicant I could break the while loop deleting syslog. It stoped spamming. Looks like all messages was linked to it. I don't know very much wpasupplicant. Ill this software be needed in the near future? Only if you plan on using wireless on your server (which seems weird) so probably not. Im afraid the system is working only now, and will be unreachable next reboot. Then plan a scheduled maintenance where the users know the system won't be available for a while. Make sure you have backups of the system. Notify the users, shutdown the system, disable wireless in the BIOS, then reboot and fix whatever is on your path. You might want to do this on premise and have a system at hand connected to the net to search for info if you do encounter a problem. Regards Hi Bene, Well, with you I think its 3 suggestions to disable wireless via BIOS. So, I've just changed my mind and I'll disable it. What is the point of asking for suggestions and no following them? If I need it one day, I'll re-enable. Thanks for the tip and for the agenda. Cheers, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: Something wrong with NetworkManager
$ cat /etc/network/interfaces auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid myownnaise wpa-psk e1841746a4f6dc64b7a6fa1f...cut Its an intermittent problem. I commented the lines above and rebooted. Now it is working via NetworkManager again. Also, even when it was not working, I could issue the command: # iwlist wlan0 scanning | grep ESSID ESSID:myownnaise ESSID:101ap ESSID:VENTURE ESSID:phaby ESSID:Monyck ESSID:ATT-7524 ESSID:ATT-4FE3 ESSID:ATT-9382 Mistery... -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: / 100% used
On 5 July 2015 at 16:58, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 07/05/2015 12:19 PM, Beco wrote: 16G of syslog ... over and over, this messages: 1 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859352] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt2860.bin' 2 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859358] rt2800pci :03:00.0: firmware: failed to load rt2860.bin (-2) 3 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859359] rt2800pci :03:00.0: Direct firmware load failed with error -2 4 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859361] rt2800pci :03:00.0: Falling back to user helper It looks like the kernel is trapped in an infinite loop trying to load firmware for a network interface, and filling up your logs with error messages. Possible solutions: 1. Disable or remove the hardware in question. 2. Install rt2860.bin. STFW ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt2860.bin', I see: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7563606.html David David, guys, Just to be sure: this server doesn't have (nor need) wireless interface. root@camelo:/var/log# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 22:60:77:93:3a:1c inet addr:10.0.3.2 Bcast:10.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::3a77:33ff:fe93:3a1c/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:508681 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:213717 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:56644394 (54.0 MiB) TX bytes:107124530 (102.1 MiB) Interrupt:20 Memory:f720-f722 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:2066703 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2066703 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:95588488 (91.1 MiB) TX bytes:95588488 (91.1 MiB) I prefer uninstall it if so. But I'm having trouble identifying it. What exactly should I uninstall? I need eth0 working (and thats all). Also, is wpa_supplicant really necessary? Thanks, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: / 100% used
On 5 July 2015 at 16:19, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote:
Hi guys,
I need some help regarding this problem.
Yesterday I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie. Today I got an email saying
the user could not create a tmp file to do anything.
I checked the filesystem with:
# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda146G 46G 0 100% /
udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev
tmpfs 789M 82M 708M 11% /run
tmpfs 2.0G 4.0K 2.0G 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda3 864G 4.0G 816G 1% /home
tmpfs 395M 0 395M 0% /run/user/1000
tmpfs 395M 0 395M 0% /run/user/1340
tmpfs 395M 0 395M 0% /run/user/1328
tmpfs 395M 0 395M 0% /run/user/1360
Also tried to find what was using such huge space with:
# find / -xdev -type f -size +200M -exec ls -lh {} \;
-rw-r- 1 root adm 4.2G Jul 5 16:05 /var/log/messages
-rw-r- 1 root adm 5.6G Jul 5 16:05 /var/log/kern.log
-rw-r- 1 root adm 16G Jul 5 16:05 /var/log/syslog
-rw-r- 1 root adm 9.6G Jul 5 16:05 /var/log/daemon.log
I'm not convinced that only 16G of syslog is my whole problem. But Id
start with that, if I can make the system usable again. So I check the log
just to see, over and over, this messages:
1 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859352] ieee80211 phy0:
rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt2860.bin'
2 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859358] rt2800pci :03:00.0:
firmware: failed to load rt2860.bin (-2)
3 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859359] rt2800pci :03:00.0:
Direct firmware load failed with error -2
4 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859361] rt2800pci :03:00.0:
Falling back to user helper
...
Jul 5 15:35:58 beco systemd-udevd[16867]: failed to execute
'/lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event'
'socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/u
dev_event': No such file or directory
...
24 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: Could not set interface
wlan0 flags (UP): Cannot allocate memory
25 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: nl80211: Could not set
interface 'wlan0' UP
26 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: Could not set interface
wlan0 flags (UP): Cannot allocate memory
27 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: WEXT: Could not set
interface 'wlan0' UP
28 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: wlan0: Failed to
initialize driver interface
...
30 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco NetworkManager[1812]: error [1436121358.001526]
[supplicant-manager/nm-supplicant-interface.c:856] interface_add_cb(): (w
lan0): error adding interface: wpa_supplicant couldn't grab this
interface.
31 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco NetworkManager[1812]: info (wlan0): supplicant
interface state: starting - down
32 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco systemd-udevd[16870]: failed to execute
'/lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event'
'socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/u
dev_event': No such file or directory
...
Ok, I run:
# apt-get remove wpasupplicant
I could break the while loop deleting syslog. It stoped spamming. Looks
like all messages was linked to it.
I don't know very much wpasupplicant. Ill this software be needed in the
near future?
Im afraid the system is working only now, and will be unreachable next
reboot.
--
To keep up with Santiago and Joe:
Santiago, thanks for the file. I do prefer not use if not necessary,
though. Lets see how things goes.
Joe, I'm runing this server via ssh. And I cannot turn it off, as there are
users online now.
I'll read your other suggestions more easily now that its kind of
working.
Thanks.
Beco.
--
Dr Beco
A.I. researcher
I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure
you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan
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Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
/ 100% used
Hi guys,
I need some help regarding this problem.
Yesterday I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie. Today I got an email saying the
user could not create a tmp file to do anything.
I checked the filesystem with:
# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda146G 46G 0 100% /
udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev
tmpfs 789M 82M 708M 11% /run
tmpfs 2.0G 4.0K 2.0G 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda3 864G 4.0G 816G 1% /home
tmpfs 395M 0 395M 0% /run/user/1000
tmpfs 395M 0 395M 0% /run/user/1340
tmpfs 395M 0 395M 0% /run/user/1328
tmpfs 395M 0 395M 0% /run/user/1360
Also tried to find what was using such huge space with:
# find / -xdev -type f -size +200M -exec ls -lh {} \;
-rw-r- 1 root adm 4.2G Jul 5 16:05 /var/log/messages
-rw-r- 1 root adm 5.6G Jul 5 16:05 /var/log/kern.log
-rw-r- 1 root adm 16G Jul 5 16:05 /var/log/syslog
-rw-r- 1 root adm 9.6G Jul 5 16:05 /var/log/daemon.log
I'm not convinced that only 16G of syslog is my whole problem. But Id start
with that, if I can make the system usable again. So I check the log just
to see, over and over, this messages:
1 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859352] ieee80211 phy0:
rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt2860.bin'
2 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859358] rt2800pci :03:00.0:
firmware: failed to load rt2860.bin (-2)
3 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859359] rt2800pci :03:00.0:
Direct firmware load failed with error -2
4 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859361] rt2800pci :03:00.0:
Falling back to user helper
...
Jul 5 15:35:58 beco systemd-udevd[16867]: failed to execute
'/lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event'
'socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/u
dev_event': No such file or directory
...
24 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: Could not set interface
wlan0 flags (UP): Cannot allocate memory
25 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: nl80211: Could not set
interface 'wlan0' UP
26 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: Could not set interface
wlan0 flags (UP): Cannot allocate memory
27 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: WEXT: Could not set
interface 'wlan0' UP
28 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco wpa_supplicant[2357]: wlan0: Failed to initialize
driver interface
...
30 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco NetworkManager[1812]: error [1436121358.001526]
[supplicant-manager/nm-supplicant-interface.c:856] interface_add_cb(): (w
lan0): error adding interface: wpa_supplicant couldn't grab this
interface.
31 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco NetworkManager[1812]: info (wlan0): supplicant
interface state: starting - down
32 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco systemd-udevd[16870]: failed to execute
'/lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event'
'socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/u
dev_event': No such file or directory
...
This keeps going. You can see above, its only from 15h35min58s. During one
single minute I got more than 7000+ lines added into syslog.
It seems a variety of problems. How can I get out from this EMERGENCY
(system is not usable), and then with more calm and time, figure out what
to do in the long term?
Thank you,
Beco.
--
Dr Beco
A.I. researcher
I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure
you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan
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Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: / 100% used
On 5 July 2015 at 16:58, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 07/05/2015 12:19 PM, Beco wrote: 16G of syslog ... over and over, this messages: 1 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859352] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt2860.bin' 2 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859358] rt2800pci :03:00.0: firmware: failed to load rt2860.bin (-2) 3 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859359] rt2800pci :03:00.0: Direct firmware load failed with error -2 4 Jul 5 15:35:58 beco kernel: [66691.859361] rt2800pci :03:00.0: Falling back to user helper It looks like the kernel is trapped in an infinite loop trying to load firmware for a network interface, and filling up your logs with error messages. Possible solutions: 1. Disable or remove the hardware in question. 2. Install rt2860.bin. STFW ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt2860.bin', I see: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7563606.html David Hi guys, An emergency is an emergency. I opened an terminal and run: # while true; do echo clean syslog; cat /dev/null syslog ; sleep 10; done Now I can think. :) Please, advise. David, I'm looking into your solution now. I'll report back. Thank you. Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: / 100% used
On 5 July 2015 at 20:29, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Beco a écrit : Just to be sure: this server doesn't have (nor need) wireless interface. It has one. If you don't need it, you can disable the kernel module autoloading by creating a file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-rt2800pci.conf containing the following line : blacklist rt2800pci Hi guys, I'll report actions in order now: - Upgrade from wheezy to jessie yesterday nigh. No problems during upgrade. - Today email from users telling system is not usable (but online and you could login) - After inquiring the logs, I saw syslog with what seems to be 3 problems, spamming the logs * networkmanager reporting wpa_supplicant * wpa_supplicant trying to setup wlan0 * kernel attempting to load rt2860.bin Status: system could not create any files. I could not apt-get install lshw, for instance. Users (students) could not run gcc to compile, due to lack of resources. System is remote, using ssh to solve problems. 1st action: a loop created with a bash command: # while true; do echo clean syslog; cat /dev/null syslog ; sleep 10; done This would allow me to see whats happening. I could install lshw. The Wanderer asked for - #ifconfig -a eth0 bla bla bla cut lo bla bla bla cut wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0a:0c:49:83:9b BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) - So, yes, it has wlan0. Also this command: - # lshw -C network *-network description: Ethernet interface product: 82579V Gigabit Network Connection vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 19 bus info: pci@:00:19.0 logical name: eth0 version: 05 serial: 38:60:77:93:3a:1c size: 100Mbit/s capacity: 1Gbit/s width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=2.3.2-k duplex=full firmware=0.13-4 ip=10.0.3.2 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100Mbit/s resources: irq:42 memory:f720-f721 memory:f7228000-f7228fff ioport:f040(size=32) *-network DISABLED description: Wireless interface product: RT3062 Wireless 802.11n 2T/2R vendor: Ralink corp. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:03:00.0 logical name: wlan0 version: 00 serial: 00:0c:0a:49:83:9b width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800pci driverversion=3.16.0-4-amd64 firmware=N/A latency=32 link=no maxlatency=4 mingnt=2 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn resources: irq:16 memory:f710-f710 - 2nd action: # apt-get remove wpasupplicant System stabilized. I let all my ssh sessions on, and went to grab a bite. (Not lunched today yet). - OH BOY SECTION!! Just to come back and see all sessions kicked out. System not accessible anymore. Ping was ok. But no connection. Ping was problably ok because a server before mine should be answering the pings. Any ssh give me time out! Oh, boy! So the worst came true: I needed physical access to a server in my room, sunday night. There I went. Drove there, all dark and empty. Sysadmins life. There I saw the Network-Manager icon (KDE) was not active. Well, I downloaded the wpasupplicant package using my notebook, passed via pendrive to the server, reinstalled it. 3rd action: Nothing working. Tried ifup, not recognized. Then I remember I had commented some lines before, in /etc/network/interfaces. I dis-commented this line: --- iface eth0 inet dhcp --- And #ifup eth0 All running. I needed to get out there, because the gate's keeper was not happy. Back to my home, now I think the server is running ok. I need to figure out what is wrong, and if there is a better solution. Because I can't make sense of what just happened as reported above. In my understanding, I was supposed to let Network-manager run the game. Not wpa_supplicant, and not ifup. Now I don't know where is Network-manager. wpa_supplicant was gone, and back again. System is stable. And ifup is configured. Last action: (Pascal's suggestion) I added the referred firmware to the blacklist Just in case So, where I am now after such modifications?! Tomorrow I'll have full access to the server, and hopefully no gatekeeper in my back, so I'll have some time. Should I research for Network-Manager? Comment back this ifup ? I'm kind of lost here. Thanks! Beco. PS. Kernel log was also full with: Jul 5 17:21:47 beco kernel: [73049.254557
Something wrong with NetworkManager
Hi guys, After a battle with wpa_supplicant commented in other thread (*) it's time for this notebook breaks down. I just connected as usual (turning on the notebook and nothing more needed) and the list of available wireless nets are empty. The only way I could connect was to go through my mobile via bluetooth, and from it to my wifi. There is something wrong with this Jessie upgrade. I upgraded my notebook (as well as the server at the university) yesterday. Now, I wrote this piece here: $ cat /etc/network/interfaces auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid myownnaise wpa-psk e1841746a4f6dc64b7a6fa1f...cut And rebooted ok. Wlan0 is connected and working ok. I wonder what is happening. Is there some logs I can share with you so we could understand what is going on? Thanks any tip here (also!) Beco PS. (*)( https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/07/msg00207.html ) PPS. Some useful info I can give in advance. I don't know exactly what we are looking for here. lshw -C network cut *-network description: Wireless interface product: Centrino Wireless-N 1030 [Rainbow Peak] vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:09:00.0 logical name: wlan0 version: 34 serial: 4c:eb:42:7b:a0:16 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.16.0-4-amd64 firmware=18.168.6.1 ip=192.168.0.8 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn resources: irq:50 memory:f7e0-f7e01fff Are these errors relevant to the problem? I was not seing them before: file: syslog 4035 Jul 5 20:41:28 raposa NetworkManager[755]: (NetworkManager:755): libnm-util-CRITICAL **: get_secret_flags: assertion 'is_secret_prop (setting, secret_name, error)' failed 5723 Jul 5 22:05:51 raposa NetworkManager[750]: error [1436144751.645583] [platform/nm-linux-platform.c:1714] add_object(): Netlink error adding 0.0.0.0/0 via 192.168.0.1 dev wlan0 metric 1024 mss 0 src user: Unspecific failure 5724 Jul 5 22:05:51 raposa NetworkManager[750]: error [1436144751.645649] [platform/nm-linux-platform.c:1714] add_object(): Netlink error adding 192.168.0.1/32 via 0.0.0.0 dev wlan0 metric 1024 mss 0 src user: Unspecific failure 5725 Jul 5 22:05:51 raposa NetworkManager[750]: error [1436144751.645683] [platform/nm-linux-platform.c:1714] add_object(): Netlink error adding 0.0.0.0/0 via 192.168.0.1 dev wlan0 metric 1024 mss 0 src user: Unspecific failure 5726 Jul 5 22:05:51 raposa NetworkManager[750]: error [1436144751.645702] [nm-policy.c:693] update_ip4_routing(): Failed to set default route. 5780 Jul 5 22:08:43 raposa kernel: [ 441.864790] iwlwifi :09:00.0: Failed to load firmware chunk! 5786 Jul 5 22:08:52 raposa NetworkManager[750]: error [1436144932.891200] [platform/nm-linux-platform.c:2250] link_change(): Netlink error changing link 3: UP mtu 0 (1) driver 'iwlwifi' udi '/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.3/:09:00.0/net/wlan0': Unspecific failure 5789 Jul 5 22:08:52 raposa NetworkManager[750]: warn Activation (wlan0) failed for connection 'myownnaise' 5820 Jul 5 22:09:08 raposa NetworkManager[750]: info (wlan0): device state change: failed - disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0] -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan GPG Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x5A107A425102382A Creation date: pgp.mit.edu ID as of 2014-11-09
Re: calendar world cup (portuguese) and others
Darac: /usr/share/calendar appears to be owned by the bsdmainutils package. I would suggest filing a wishlist bug against that package with your file attached. Thanks, Darac! I'll do that. Cheers, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan
calendar world cup (portuguese) and others
Hi guys, Last semester I made some calendars. Specially a brazilian one, that is not current on the system. I wonder, to whom should I send them, to ask Debian to keep them in the next version? Thanks! Beco. PS. Bellow a teaser. If you like, please save as a plain text file under the directory cited: -- root@camelo:/usr/share/calendar/pt_BR# cat calendar.copa2014 /* * World Cup 2014 * Prepared by Ruben Carlo Benante [ rcb at beco dot cc ] */ #ifndef _calendar_copa2014_ #define _calendar_copa2014_ LANG=utf-8 12 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo A, Brasil 3 x 1 Croácia (SP) 13 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo A, México 1 x 0 Camarões (RN) 13 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo B, Espanha 1 x 5 Holanda (BA) 13 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo B, Chile 3 x 1 Austrália (MT) 14 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo C, Colômbia 3 x 0 Grécia (MG) 14 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo C, Costa do Marfim 2 x 1 Japão (PE) 14 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo D, Uruguai 1 x 3 Costa Rica (CE) 14 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo D, Inglaterra 1 x 2 Itália (AM) 15 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo E, Suíça 2 x 1 Equador (DF) 15 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo E, França 3 x 0 Honduras (RS) 15 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo F, Argentina 2 x 1 Bósnia e Herzegovina (RJ) 16 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo F, Irã 0 x 0 Nigéria (PR) 16 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo G, Alemanha 4 x 0 Portugal (BA) 16 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo G, Gana 1 x 2 EUA (RN) 17 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo H, Bélgica 2 x 1 Argélia (MG) 17 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo H, Rússia 1 x 1 Coréia do Sul (MT) 17 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo A, Brasil 0 x 0 México (CE) 18 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo A, Camarões 0 x 4 Croácia (AM) 18 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo B, Espanha 0 x 2 Chile (RJ) 18 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo B, Austrália 2 x 3 Holanda (RS) 19 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo C, Colômbia 2 x 1 Costa do Marfim (DF) 19 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo C, Japão 0 x 0 Grécia (RN) 19 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo D, Uruguai 2 x 1 Inglaterra (SP) 20 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo D, Itália 0 x 1 Costa Rica (PE) 20 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo E, Suíça 2 x 5 França (BA) 20 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo E, Honduras 1 x 2 Equador (PR) 21 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo F, Argentina 1 x 0 Irã (MG) 21 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo F, Nigéria 1 x 0 Bósnia e Herzegovina (MT) 21 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo G, Alemanha 2 x 2 Gana (CE) 22 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo G, EUA 2 x 2 Portugal (AM) 22 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo H, Bélgica 1 x 0 Rússia (RJ) 22 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo H, Coréia do Sul 2 x 4 Argélia (RS) 23 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo A, Camarões 1 x 4 Brasil (DF) 23 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo A, Croácia 1 x 3 México (PE) 23 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo B, Austrália 0 x 3 Espanha (PR) 23 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo B, Holanda 2 x 0 Chile (SP) 24 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo C, Japão 1 x 4 Colômbia (MT) 24 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo C, Grécia 2 x 1 Costa do Marfim (CE) 24 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo D, Itália 0 x 1 Uruguai (RN) 24 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo D, Costa Rica 0 x 0 Inglaterra (MG) 25 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo E, Honduras 0 x 3 Suíça (AM) 25 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo E, Equador 0 x 0 França (RJ) 25 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo F, Nigéria 2 x 3 Argentina (RS) 25 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo F, Bósnia e Herzegovina 3 x 1 Irã (BA) 26 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo G, EUA 0 x 1 Alemanha (PE) 26 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo G, Portugal 2 x 1 Gana (DF) 26 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo H, Coréia do Sul 0 x 1 Bélgica (SP) 26 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Grupo H, Argélia 1 x 1 Rússia (PR) 28 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Oitavas, Brasil 1(3) x 1(2) Chile (MG) 28 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Oitavas, Colombia 2 x 0 Uruguai (RJ) 29 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Oitavas, Holanda 2 x 1 México (CE) 29 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Oitavas, Costa Rica 1(5) x 1(3) Grécia (PE) 30 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Oitavas, França 2 x 0 Nigéria (DF) 30 Jun Copa do Mundo 2014, Oitavas, Alemanha 1 x 0 Argélia (RS) 01 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Oitavas, Argentina 1 x 0 Suíça (SP) 01 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Oitavas, Bélgica 2 x 1 EUA (BA) 04 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Quartas, Brasil 2 x 1 Colômbia (CE) 04 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Quartas, França 0 x 1 Alemanha (RJ) 05 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Quartas, Holanda 0(4) x 0(3) Costa Rica (BA) 05 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Quartas, Argentina 1 x 0 Bélgica (DF) 08 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Semi-final, Brasil 1 x 7 Alemanha (MG) 09 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Semi-final, Holanda 0(2) x 0(4) Argentina (SP) 12 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Terceiro lugar, Brasil x Holanda (DF) 13 Jul Copa do Mundo 2014, Final, Alemanha x Argentina (RJ) #endif /* !_calendar_copa2014_ */ -- -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant -- Alan Greenspan
Remote xboard without Desktop Environment
Hello fellows, I find it hard to ask exactly what I need as solution, and so, to avoid XY problem I'll openly discuss the main objective here. So, I have this hobby, chess, and I've being developing since 94 a chess engine (Xadreco) that runs with xboard protocol. (Oldtimes, it just used conio.h/curses.h to print a fine board using ascii-art text to let you play on console). Its a console application, very simple. Now suppose I have this 2 computers: [Fox]-ssh-[Lizard] Fox and Lizard run Debian Wheezy. Fox is a very fast notebook (intel i5, 6GB Ram), with KDE. Lizard is an old computer (pentium 200Mhz MMX, 96MB RAM) used as a backup. It has no DE nor WM. Just plain console. I will work on Fox only. No use of Lizard keyboard/mouse/monitor. I connect to Lizard by ssh. (1) How can I run xboard and play against xadreco issuing the command fox$ xboard -fcp xadreco First: I cannot start xboard on lizard. Xboard needs display . I cannot start it from Fox, nor from Lizard directly. It would be great if xboard would just run on a console. I tried the option -noGUI, but I think its not about that. So the commands: fox$ xboard -fcp xadreco fox$ xboard -fcp xadreco lizard$ xboard -fcp xadreco Wont work. Of course, it tells me: no display. The obvious solution is to install a DE. The machine is too old and slow. I don't want to install a DE unless necessary. (2) xboard can connect to a chess server (a third computer). So the configuration would be: [Fox] - ssh - [Lizard] - xboard-protocol - [Flik] Flik is not mine, I suppose it runs linux. I don't need to know. Flik runs a chess server (ICS), so I can talk to it using xboard protocol ( text commands over the internet that tells the opponents moves, and send the engine moves, in a fashion notation that reminds the coordinates of a naval battle game) In this case, the graphical interface (or the chess board) is really unnecessary, as people will play chess at their computers. Xboard only need to keep the connection alive and send the text commands from the protocol (like moves, etc.). (3) Now, how can I keep xboard running on lizard, after I turn off fox. Also, it happens that the connection break some time. So I would connect via ssh from Fox to Lizard to restart xboard again. Ultimately, the main objective is keep Lizard on, running xboard and xadreco, connected with Flik, playing games. If something goes wrong, use Fox to restart the program. And: saving as much RAM as possible of Lizard, without installing anything unless necessary. [Fox] - ssh - [Lizard] - xboard-protocol - [Flik] - xboard-protocol - [netizens] Thanks any help here (specially with concepts to try to understand and solve the best way possible each approach). Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2xnnuv_82zA3yuqWa1Wus1YBhORexKqFwV=3bxw82e...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Remote xboard without Desktop Environment
On 20 November 2013 12:57, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: The obvious solution is to install a DE. The machine is too old and slow. I don't want to install a DE unless necessary. This is probably the easiest question to answer. If you do ssh -X lizard, then SSH will set up what is known as X forwarding; that is, it sets up port forwarding and environment variables so that programs on lizard will use the display on fox. For example: fox$ xboard # fox executes xboard and displays locally fox$ ssh -X lizard lizard$ xboard# lizard executes xboard and displays on fox Hi Darac, Yep, this solved indeed. First I tried and got an error. I thought it would be because of the fact there is no x-server. But it was just the case of editing sshd_conf and allow port forward. Great! Thanks. One to go. [Fox] - ssh - [Lizard] - xboard-protocol - [Flik] - xboard-protocol - [netizens] One possibility might be to use screen or tmux to provide a detachable console. I don't know if the exact details of this are possible, but it might be possible to do the following: fox$ ssh lizard lizard$ screen# starts a new screen session lizard$ xboard-server # Somehow run xboard in a text-only mode lizard$ Ctrl+A Ctrl+D # Detach the screen session. xboard continues to run in the background lizard$ logout I apt-get-installed screen and Ctrl-A-D worked as a charm. The real mystery now is how to run xboard! :) This line: fox$ xboard # Fox connects to the xboard server in the same way that flik does. Just to clarify, I think you meant: fox$ xboard -ics Flik # Fox connects to Flik server the same way other players (netizens) do. In other words, we treat Flik and Fox the same (as clients, talking the xboard protocol to lizard, which runs purely as a server). Flik is the ICS (internet chess server, or xboard server), not a client. Thanks! Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2zljxjgh_nlkaohzs_ru+av0kfp674fbmkd3se-wsz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Remote xboard without Desktop Environment
On 20 November 2013 13:57, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: Flik is the ICS (internet chess server, or xboard server), not a client. Ah, OK. So Flik rather than Lizard is the server. I think I misunderstood there. In that case you want to make Lizard the client. Hmm. I don't know of a program like screen that works for X connections (i.e. allows you to detach and reattach them). There are, however, programs that will run the client on a virtual display and you can then view that display on Fox. For that, look at a VNC or RDP server. Here, the basic workflow would be similar to screen; you start a VNC or RDP server on lizard, you connect a viewer program on fox to the display on lizard, you start xboard on the virtual display, you can then disconnect and reconnect to that virtual display. Hi Paul (is it Paul, isnt it? Or Darac?), hi guys, Yes, Lizard is a client. It connect to Flik (ICS) with its own login, and play games like other players do. About this last suggestion, I was kind of thinking on it, but... I thought VNC (or RDP for that matter) would only let me see the other computer as if it was local. In that case, Lizard would need a DE anyway, isnt it? Thanks, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2yCgtWNG=hgfssrukwf7qi4ua-bmhwicry8sk5d+mw...@mail.gmail.com
Apper password: sudo or root?
Dear users, Why in some of my systems, when I try to update, apper asks for my sudo password, and in others, it asks for root password? During the installation I always follow the same procedure, and I try to keep all systems as equal as I can, so Im pretty sure I did not changed such option. Actually, I don't even know where to change. If I knew, I would make them all ask for just on kind. The way it is, I never know. And the dialog box do not say which one its expecting. Its bothering me for a while now, so I thought to ask here if some has a solution. Thanks! Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2zv2xixz6xpqncgipe7cthyw9cqlssphsuayecmj9m...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Apper password: sudo or root?
Hi Ralf, On 13 November 2013 15:52, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: What DE do you use? What application to update do you use? Do you have both enabled, su and sudo? Assumed you're using Synaptic on a GTK based DE and both, su and sudo are enabled, than it's likely that you need to change the launcher you use to start Synaptic from gksu synaptic to gksudo synaptic. Sorry to make you have to assume such things. Apper is the application. Its default to KDE (substitutes old synaptic). I don't have synaptic installed anymore, since Apper icon appear on my panel. Thanks for your help. I actually can already start digging based on what you said. Let me try something here. My best, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2yghREqxedT=i7er_wvryefz4j1l_l+zdctuoa3wuy...@mail.gmail.com
Upgrade all kept back packages
libqtgstreamerui-0.10-0 libqtscript4-core libqtscript4-gui libqtscript4-network libqtscript4-sql libqtscript4-uitools libqtscript4-xml libquicktime1 libswscale0 libtag-extras1 libtheora-bin libunicap2 libvpx0 libweed0 libx264-112 libx264-118 libxine2-doc lilypond lilypond-data lilypond-doc lives-data lokalize lsdvd lskat mkvtoolnix nuvola-icon-theme ogmtools okteta optipng palapeli palapeli-data parley-data poxml preview-latex-style python-aeidon python-dateutil python-enchant python-iniparse python-levenshtein python-simplejson python-utidylib python-vobject rdesktop rocs rtmpdump step tex4ht tex4ht-common texlive texlive-bibtex-extra texlive-fonts-recommended texlive-fonts-recommended-doc texlive-latex-extra texlive-latex-extra-doc texlive-math-extra texlive-pictures texlive-pictures-doc transcode-doc transcode-utils translate-toolkit ttf-sjfonts twolame umbrello valgrind wwwconfig-common xsltproc youtube-dl Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: phonon-backend-null The following packages will be REMOVED: akonadiconsole akregator amarok ark blinken bomber devede digikam dolphin dragonplayer dvdrip gwenview juk k3b kaddressbook kajongg kalarm kamoso kanagram kapman kbattleship kblocks kbounce kde kde-baseapps kde-config-cddb kde-full kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-standard kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kdeaccessibility kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-workspace-bin kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdegraphics-mobipocket kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdepasswd kdepim kdepim-groupware kdepim-kresources kdepim-wizards kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdesdk-dolphin-plugins kdeutils kfind kget khangman kid3 kile kipi-plugins kleopatra klettres kmail kmix kmousetool kmplayer knode knotes kollision konq-plugins konqueror konsole kontact kopete korganizer kpat kplayer kscd kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers kshisen ksirk ktimetracker ktorrent ktouch ktuberling kwordquiz libakonadi-contact4 libk3b6 libk3b6-extracodecs libkcddb4 libkdepim4 libkonq-common libkonq5abi1 libokularcore1 libsmokephonon3 lives marble marble-plugins mplayer mplayerthumbs okular parley phonon-backend-vlc plasma-runners-addons plasma-scriptengine-python plasma-scriptengines plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widgets-addons python-kde4 ruby-phonon subtitleripper system-config-printer-kde transcode vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse xvidcap The following NEW packages will be installed: phonon-backend-null 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 117 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 15.9 kB of archives. After this operation, 434 MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n Abort. # apt-get autoremove Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: avidemux-common libaften0 libartsc0 libfame-0.9-1 libgraphicsmagick3 libmjpegtools-1.9 libmkv0 libquicktime1 libx264-112 libxine2-doc 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 10 to remove and 7 not upgraded. After this operation, 12.7 MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y And here I tried remove again the previous command, with the same result: apt-get wants to remove and strip naked my system. How can I eliminate the message The following packages have been kept back: mplayer transcode vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse xvidcap ? Thanks! Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2yoa9qyw_f+cp1+hgjghdtf++mwpodvy5ihxyt+6co...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade all kept back packages
On 10 November 2013 14:05, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: And here I tried remove again the previous command, with the same result: apt-get wants to remove and strip naked my system. How can I eliminate the message The following packages have been kept back: mplayer transcode vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse xvidcap ? I read somewhere that dist-upgrade would do the trick, but it did not work; although I got 2 more! ( transcode and xvidcap ) (This is Wheezy, with Wheezy sources.list) # apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: libavcodec-extra-53 The following NEW packages will be installed: libavcodec53 libbs2b0 libmjpegtools-2.0-0 mjpegtools The following packages have been kept back: mplayer vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse The following packages will be upgraded: transcode xvidcap 2 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 1 to remove and 5 not upgraded. Need to get 6,129 kB of archives. After this operation, 2,357 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Thanks, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2wacH5eXthJttvhpz2cV=67z8cook1_ufrd6ndte22...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade all kept back packages
out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: vlc-nox : Depends: libcdio10 but it is not installable Depends: libiso9660-7 but it is not installable Depends: libupnp3 (= 1.4.3) but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Any light here? Thanks. Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2zQ04omSKy3PZ2yStD_oEXvLd2bhBU=ycpsqxxvhr7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade all kept back packages
++5 live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools live-config live-config-sysvinit ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sazanami-mincho wx-common Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following packages will be REMOVED: live-initramfs 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded. After this operation, 32.8 kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y (Reading database ... 324511 files and directories currently installed.) Removing live-initramfs ... # apt-get install live-initramfs Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: camstream-doc libmysqlclient16 libstdc++5 live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools live-config live-config-sysvinit ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sazanami-mincho wx-common Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. Suggested packages: loop-aes-utils curlftpfs genext2fs httpfs2 squashfs-tools mtd-tools unionfs-fuse The following NEW packages will be installed: live-initramfs 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 112 kB of archives. After this operation, 512 kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/import live-initramfs all 1.236.2-1 [112 kB] Fetched 112 kB in 5s (19.2 kB/s) Selecting previously unselected package live-initramfs. (Reading database ... 324509 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking live-initramfs (from .../live-initramfs_1.236.2-1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/live-initramfs_1.236.2-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/live', which is also in package live-boot-initramfs-tools 3.0.1-1 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 live-boot: core filesystems devices utils memdisk udev wget blockdev. Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/live-initramfs_1.236.2-1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) # cat /var/log/dpkg.log | tail 2013-11-10 15:06:24 startup archives unpack 2013-11-10 15:06:24 install live-initramfs:all none 1.236.2-1 2013-11-10 15:06:24 status triggers-pending initramfs-tools:all 0.109.1 2013-11-10 15:06:24 status not-installed live-initramfs:all none 2013-11-10 15:06:24 status half-installed live-initramfs:all 1.236.2-1 2013-11-10 15:06:25 status not-installed live-initramfs:all none 2013-11-10 15:06:25 trigproc initramfs-tools:all 0.109.1 0.109.1 2013-11-10 15:06:25 status half-configured initramfs-tools:all 0.109.1 2013-11-10 15:06:34 status installed initramfs-tools:all 0.109.1 Is this ok to boot yet? Or do I need to do something urgent before attempt to boot? Thanks any help. Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2wux7ztmkmwokgynxzhkemmrmpb8okvzhnbhcshdxc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade all kept back packages
On 10 November 2013 16:17, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Beco wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Make sense? Hopefully. Good luck! Please report back on your progress so that we (I!) can learn from it! Bob Okey Bob! Thanks a lot. You gave me a LOT of food for thought now. I'll try some paths here and I'll try to log what I do and report back. Rob, thanks also. I'll see if your tip fits here and reply latter. Good news is: system booted okey. But a error message appear just after grub, and I couldn't read it. Something like missing file. There is no Merillat in my sources, but when I imported the GPG from las.ic.unicamp, I got a Merillat message: deb http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/debian-multimedia/ wheezy main non-free #unicamp # apt-key adv --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907 # # Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /tmp/tmp.Nh3SiyWmJu --trustdb-name /etc/apt//trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-squeeze-automatic.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-squeeze-stable.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-wheezy-automatic.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-wheezy-stable.gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907 # gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server keyring.debian.org # gpg: key 1F41B907: public key Christian Marillat maril...@debian.org imported # gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found # gpg: Total number processed: 1 # gpg: imported: 1 Im removing all that does not comply with the Debian packages. But still, I'm having trouble trying to remove specific packages that insist that I need to get rid of KDE or other big stuffs. What a mess! Today I'll clean it for good. Cheers, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2yK4-_M=RkEaLNGafj3-wC7=rl1rzzezd7nt_laap3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade all kept back packages
On 10 November 2013 17:06, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: On 10 November 2013 16:17, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Im removing all that does not comply with the Debian packages. But still, I'm having trouble trying to remove specific packages that insist that I need to get rid of KDE or other big stuffs. apt-get remove $(deborphan) Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libisccc60 libisccfg62 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following packages will be REMOVED: cups-driver-gutenprint foo2zjs lib32tinfo5 libbind9-60 libboost-iostreams1.42.0 libdb4.6 libdb4.7 libdb4.8 libeina1 libescpr1 libevent-1.4-2 libkadm5clnt-mit7 libkadm5srv-mit7 liblwres60 librpcsecgss3 libtar0 libtokyocabinet8 libxcb-composite0 libxcb-xfixes0 linux-image-2.6-amd64 virtualbox-guest-additions virtualbox-ose-qt xulrunner-10.0 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 23 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Then, I went to the list one by one, removing the ones I could, without incurring in a chain of removables. I finally got my system into this situation (8 files not ok): # apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate epson-inkjet-printer-201215w 1.0.0-1lsb3.2 installed: No available version in archive kde 5:66 installed: No available version in archive kdebase 5:66 installed: No available version in archive libmp3lame0 1:3.99.5-0.1 newer than version in archive libvlc5 1:2.0.1-0.6 newer than version in archive libvlccore5 1:2.0.1-0.6 newer than version in archive libxvidcore4 3:1.3.2-0.6 newer than version in archive vlc-data 1:2.0.1-0.6 newer than version in archive And sources.list is: # generated by # Debian Sources List Generator (Beta) # 2013-01-13 # http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free #Third Parties Repos #deb http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/debian-multimedia/ wheezy main non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian wheezy contrib non-free # after apt-get update, run: # Oracle VM VirtualBox - Third Parties Repos, virtualbox.org # wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add - #java oracle automatic deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu precise main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu precise main #apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys EEA14886 #unicamp # apt-key adv --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907 # # Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /tmp/tmp.Nh3SiyWmJu --trustdb-name /etc/apt//trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-squeeze-automatic.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-squeeze-stable.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-wheezy-automatic.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-wheezy-stable.gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907 # gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server keyring.debian.org # gpg: key 1F41B907: public key Christian Marillat maril...@debian.org imported # gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found # gpg: Total number processed: 1 # gpg: imported: 1 From this 8 files: epson-inkjet-printer-201215w 1.0.0-1lsb3.2 installed: ok. need it. its my printer. kde 5:66 installed: I'm quite sure I need this also. ;) kdebase 5:66 installed: and this. Still, I would like them to be from the current sources.list now. How can I do it? downgrade it? how? And if not needed, delete the files: libmp3lame0 1:3.99.5-0.1 newer than version in archive libvlc5 1:2.0.1-0.6 newer than version in archive libvlccore5 1:2.0.1-0.6 newer than version in archive libxvidcore4 3:1.3.2-0.6 newer than version in archive vlc-data 1:2.0.1-0.6 newer than version in archive If needed, make them come from my sources.list. Example: # apt-get install vlc-data=2.0.3-5 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: advancecomp amarok-common amarok-utils amor asymptote asymptote-doc blogilo bovo cantor cantor-backend-kalgebra cervisia cvsservice dblatex digikam-data enblend enfuse gnugo granatier guile-1.8 guile-1.8-libs hugin hugin-data hugin-tools javascript-common kalgebra kalzium kalzium-data katomic kblackbox kbreakout kbruch kcachegrind kcharselect kcolorchooser kde-config-cron kde
Re: Upgrade all kept back packages
On 10 November 2013 15:39, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: find all packages from deb-multimedia.org: aptitude search '~i ?origin(Unofficial Multimedia Packages)' purge all packages from deb-multimedia.org: aptitude purge '~i ?origin(Unofficial Multimedia Packages)' Hi Rob, Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but this command does not find anything here. But now I think I probably removed everything. Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2y6yx_wp42vnck+ix93oabqfzfoaywsg526fl41oce...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade all kept back packages
On 10 November 2013 16:17, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Beco wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: First verify your sources.list file. I didn't see where you said what version of Debian you were using. Stable Wheezy, Testing Jessie, or Unstable Sid. Whatever. Make sure it is consistent. I should have asked, can you post your sources.list file? I see in your message that you are running Wheezy 7. (But I can't say Stable since you have added many destabilizing things.) $ apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate Nice command. It shows me I still have squeeze on my system. Unless you have cleaned then old libs may still be hanging around and they will only be used by the old Squeeze part of the system. Probably need to do some cleaning. The 'apt-get autoremove' tool is a good start for it. I also like 'deborphan'. I'm not quite sure what to do with this response: # apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate deb-multimedia-keyring 2012.05.10-dmo3 newer than version in archive live-initramfs 2.0.15-1 newer than version in archive vlc-nox/wheezy upgradeable from 2.0.3-5 to 1:2.0.1-0.6 Ah, yes, there is the problem. You see that the Merillat version has an epoch on the front. The 1: part. That makes version 1:2.0.1-0.6 newer than 2.0.3-5. But not just that single package. This will be similar across many packages. But it shows the root of the problem. And it is why people have become annoyed that he is doing this. It creates problems for people such as yourself that trip into the pitfall and then have to dig out of it. Meanwhile the work he has done has helped many people for years. I still use some of the his packages and am grateful that they are there. And so I have mixed feelings about it. libisc62 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze8 installed: No available version in archive libisccc60 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze8 installed: No available version in archive These are good examples of old orphaned libraries. Nothing is using them anymore. They can be purged from the system. They don't really hurt anything being there. But they are lint and they confuse the issue so I would purge them. Using deborphan (try 'orphaner') is good to find things like those and clean them out. skype 4.2.0.11-1 installed: No available version in archive This is an example of something that is never going to be in the free archive because it is a nonfree component that you have manually installed. If you want it then that is just the way things are going to be. mplayer is uninstalled for now. The only problem I see is vlc. # apt-cache policy vlc-nox vlc-nox: Installed: 2.0.3-5 Candidate: 1:2.0.1-0.6 Version table: 1:2.0.1-0.6 0 500 http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/debian-multimedia/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages *** 2.0.3-5 0 500 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status The epoch is why it is trying to install from the Merillat archive. Basically you need to make a choice. Politics between Debian and Merillat have gotten to the point that you really need to decide which camp you are in. Debian has gone the libav route. Merillat has gone the ffmpeg route. You need to decide which you want. If you want to use the Merillat sources then you need to take this problem and anything like it there. If you want to go the Debian sources then you need to remove the Merillat archive and go back to Debian. Or you need to learn how to deal with the problem somehow. But certainly the Debian multimedia developers are not happy about the situation for exactly the problems you have found. They don't want to clean up someone else's mess. I can't blame them. Look at how you were sucked into having this problem! The ffmpeg v. libav problem isn't entirely clear cut to the outsider. I am an outsider. But from what I have read I wish Debian had gone the ffmpeg route. (Can't we all just get along?) But they didn't. So to make my life easier for better or worse I have stuck with the Debian packaging of libav. Which means that while I am using some things from Merillat the multimedia components that depend upon these are not any of them. And so I recommend that you remove the Merillat sources from your sources.list file. Then get your system back into a sane state. I am not saying never use a Merillat package. I am just saying that to get your system cleaned up that you should remove the sources.list and remove all of the packages from there in order to get things back into a sane state. After that then you could selectively pick and choose and probably be okay. But fix your system first. Make sense? Now this command won't work: # apt-get install vlc-nox=1:2.0.1-0.6 That version will force an install from the Merillat archive. And therefore by dependency any problems you have should be taken up with his archive and not Debian's. The following packages have unmet
Re: Upgrade all kept back packages
On 10 November 2013 18:14, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Now, guys, how come KDE and KDEBASE does not have archive candidates? Where are they? Thanks, Beco. It seems KDE is just a dummy package. Is the correct package kde-full? # apt-cache policy kde-full kde-full: Installed: 5:77+deb7u1 Candidate: 5:77+deb7u1 Version table: *** 5:77+deb7u1 0 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages If so, my system is now ok, I believe. Thanks! Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2y-h_ts_ctszr0ctbxsaeprbnzmga8yv1rcwcqs8p2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade all kept back packages
Hi guys, Just to report back: To remove kdebase dummy, first: # apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop And to remove kde dummy, first: # apt-get install kde-full Then just remove kde and kdebase. Now: # apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate epson-inkjet-printer-201215w 1.0.0-1lsb3.2 installed: No available version in archive skype 4.2.0.11-1 installed: No available version in archive # deborphan --guess-all (no files) # deborphan (no files) System is pretty clean. Cheers, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2y+ekhk_cxaprd+jbgouykh6qjw_kwzletl5d4um7p...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Why Debian
On 9 November 2013 06:40, Itay deb...@itayf.fastmail.fm wrote: On Sat, 9 Nov 2013, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: So you feel more vanilla is better, is this? I prefer chocolate... ;-) I second that. But the good thing in Debian for me is: I feel that once Ilearn to do something, the knowledge will stay with me, and will be relevant for quite some time in the future. And specially that. Hope this helps. Itay My best, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2z1PkZVyOPQFVb2ASCqxkSByRLPx5EQEaN6k=jj4+m...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Why Debian
On 8 Nov 2013 14:15, Alberto Salvia Novella es204904...@gmail.com wrote: Summarizing: Which are the very important reasons why do you prefer Debian over Ubuntu? Why to use a Debian based OS if you can use Debian? My best, Beco.
Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!
On 6 November 2013 13:43, Neal Murphy neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu wrote: Assuming the problem is /var/log is part of the root filesystem and is crammed with millions of files. Assume other drive is /dev/sdb. The general process is as follows. 1. Reboot to single-user 2. Add partition #1 to /dev/sdb 3. 'mkreiserfs /dev/sdb1' # to avoid the whole issue of inodes 4. 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' 5. 'cd /var/log; find . -depth | cpio -pdv /mnt' 6. 'if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then cd ..; mv log log-; rm -rf log-; fi' 7. 'mkdir log; chmod 755 log 8. 'echo /dev/sdb1 /var/log reiserfs defaults,notail 0 1 /etc/fstab' 9. 'wait' 10. 'umount /mnt; init 6' Hi Neal, I think I'm going to ask about the easier part: What is 9. wait for? Thx, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2x+vyf-h4i_yxgzdsnc2b7+iuxyeq4zqxdjgy7yyow...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] What is an open thread (was Re: 3D printer)
Chris Bannister via lists.debian.org 11:18 (1 hour ago) to debian-user On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 09:21:58AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 03:59:37 -0200 Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Hi guys, This is an open thread, if that is allowed. What's an open thread? At a guess, opposite to a closed thread IOW anyone can contribute, although the terms don't make any sense at all on this list. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X Hi Chris, Please discuss the term in this thread. Thanks! Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2wvahedme2sfhbgfovs-h5+wjonl1w+97zommqnhju...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 3D printer
On 4 November 2013 10:24, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: On 11/03/2013 08:57 AM Mirco Piccin wrote: Hi I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have experience in using such printers with debian/linux? Our local public library bought a couple of these. They give classes on them. And if you want something printed, you email them the STL file, they'll print it, and send you an email back when you can pick it up. I think they charge about 5 cents/pound... hardly anything. Unless you really want to play around with building it, it's a much better way to go than having your own. Hi Ken, I was thinking in build one actually. It can be useful, and I have some students willing to work on it. The problem is that we know all the history of struggle between linux and printers (and devices in general). I was wondering if this is the case with 3D printers. Its not easy to find devices debian/linux compatible. Tell me about building your own! Do you know if the model your library has works on linux? Mirco, I think I like most the Prusa i3. It looks pretty! And being the third version, the site states: he i3 incorporates lessons learned from the previous two Prusa designs, as well as other popular modern RepRap designs. I wonder how to connect it to computer. Is it USB? And do you need any special driver? How debian sees it? Thanks! Beco. PS. No, Charles. I'm not a hit man. :) Actually, I don't like guns that much. If humanity wants to kill each other, go for it. I'll just enjoy my lonely ride with art, programming, music, poetry, science, etc., the best I can! Cheers! -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2xubird5lgrutx-gaqmrq-eu_jwx6h8eo0k6ozhxpu...@mail.gmail.com
3D printer
Hi guys, This is an open thread, if that is allowed. I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have experience in using such printers with debian/linux? What brand would you recommend? How about kits? What software is there available in debian repositories to create 3D projects that can be directly printed? Thanks any input. My best, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle)
Re: 3D printer
On 3 November 2013 10:57, Mirco Piccin pic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have experience in using such printers with debian/linux? here i am :) What brand would you recommend? How about kits? i'm using an opensource 3d printer (RepRap project), specifically a Prusa i2. It arrived as a kit. Low price and good results. Take a tour on the project wiki: www.reprap.org (there's also a forum) What software is there available in debian repositories to create 3D projects that can be directly printed? if you are a programmer, use OpenSCAD. Or you can use Blender. (both opensource), Then you need to export your object in STL format. Then you need to use Slic3r (that is an italian opensource slicing sw) http://slic3r.org/ to generate gcode from this STL. At this point you need a 3d printer :) Thanks any input. regards Mirco Hi Mirco, Very nice tip. Thanks! I'm looking forward to build one. From the link you gave, I see there is some models to build: http://reprap.org/wiki/Build_A_RepRap [1] Prusa Mendel Full-sized RepRap, Focused On Low Cost and Ease of Sourcing [2] MendelMax Full-sized RepRap Focused on Structural Rigidity and Ease of Assembly [3] Wallace Smaller RepRap designed to reduce part count and minimize complexity of build [4] Original Mendel The first Mendel design: fully functional, but more complicated than later variants [5] RepRapPro Huxley Smaller RepRap design to reduce part count and give portability. [6] RepRapPro Tricolour Mendel RepRap design that gives multi-material/multi-colour 3D printing. And the Legacy RepRap 3D Printers. These designs have been replaced by more recent ones (so build them at your own risk).If you are new to RepRap, you should probably start with Prusa Mendel (if you want a big build volume) or Huxley (if you want a small machine). [6] Original Huxley The Original Mini RepRap [7] Darwin The first RepRap --- Very good options! What is the model you have? Did you find it difficult to assembly or find the required pieces? Thanks! Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2zJvQ8bi3wW289H1SR99YC4BDqMzPRJAZO3OVPi3-C==a...@mail.gmail.com
[OT] What is an open thread (was Re: 3D printer)
Curt cu...@free.fr via lists.debian.org wrote: On 3 November 2013 12:51, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 03 November 2013 14:21:58 Celejar wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 03:59:37 -0200 Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Hi guys, This is an open thread, if that is allowed. What's an open thread? +1 Off topic? Patrick It's like a loose thread except when you pull on it everything doesn't unravel. Hi guys, I changed the subject so this meta-discussion does not pollute the other one. I think this meta-discussion is OT, thats why I wrote [OT] on the subject. An open thread, as I stated, was something like curt defined. It is a valid topic, it's related to Debian and printer usage (topics that are not off-topic), but there is not a single problem to solve. There is not a OP who has a specific question and want a specific solution. For example: what driver to use with a model Wh4t3v3R of printer S0M3-1? But, if that question happens in the thread, it fits. Its open, but not so open that people would stop talking about 3D printer and start talking about, lets say, unixes or sysadmins definitions. That would fork the thread in the normal way threads are forked. As I'm not interested in OT in general, and as this thread is OT, I'm not interested in it also. Feel free to keep going with this discussion. My best! Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them (Aristotle) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2w=ASMwQdPGNYK_VEz9zF=3c0v_du3ltjbihpbjzvd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)
On 31 October 2013 13:12, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: Alex, As you can see (from this long conversation), there are a variety of interpretations of what free means and its value to the end user. Getting back to your original concerns, here are some observations I've made about android which indicate to me that it's not free. When you buy a phone with android on it, you don't have root access to the system. You're just a regular user. Yes, you can root the phone, but then you invalidate the warrantee, from what I understand, both the software and hardware warrantees. So if something fails on your phone, the company whom you bought it from won't provide support. If something breaks (whether it's software or hardware), you're on your own. There are some android-specific lists which could be helpful. [cut] Hello Ken, I agree with you in all the topics bellow (the [cut]) but this one above. The fact that you cant be root doesn't add to Android not being FOSS. Lets say, for example, that you create an enterprise that makes software (and hardware, to be more close to the example. Suppose you build a small computer using go'old Z80 processor. The motherboard isn't that big. You call it Z80-Alive! ) Now, you sell this machines in your community (school, church, whatever) with a support contract, and state: You'll be THE only sysadmin, you'll have root access and buyers will be a regular users. As long as buyers don't try to gain root access, you'll give support to software and hardware. In some enterprises, if you try to get root access, you may be fired! :) But Z80-Alive!, as someone buy the piece of hardware and you are just helping out, the buyer can't (won't) be fired, just lose warranty. Well, for me, this enterprise can't be called not free based only on that. I agree with the other topics in your email: closed softwares installed without your agreement, and other stuffs (closed hardware, drivers, etc). But to isolate the feature --become root--, suppose this enterprise will only install FOSS, will only use public domain hardware, and ask you if you are ready for an update before pushing it to your Z80 machine. Avoiding users to become root is just a policy matter of an organization, in which you are part. Of course you can become root anyway and void warranty. That is not bad. That is just an weighted conscious option. My best, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.)
Re: alien 32/64 bits
On 30 October 2013 15:28, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: Bonjour, Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package built for a 32bits platform. I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package, as 32bits can be installed. Thank you. Hi Fraçois, You just want to run alien... Convert a RPM (i386) to a DEB (also i386). Nothing more changes. As you said yourself, your 64b machine can run a 32b software. Cheers, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2zFE0yv8=h27231pu3h48tf70gkiizm9y9ebyphuqa...@mail.gmail.com
Re: alien 32/64 bits
On 30 October 2013 19:10, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: Le 30/10/2013 23:07, Beco a écrit : AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i486linux_fra.rpm is for architecture i386 ; the package cannot be built on this system Hi François, What is the exact command you issued? On a first check, I think maybe there is a problem. I see people working around by first converting the RPM to TAR.CZ with : alien --to-tgz AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i486linux_fra.rpm I can check better late in the night when I came back from work. Beco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2yzyZLqRqk7j3Hevn58+AG__cW-cEOEPA0tvP=zdcz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: alien 32/64 bits
On 30 October 2013 19:28, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I think the kind of information he want is, for example, the software's name. Or the software's role. Exactly! If it is ADOBE READER (I'm guessing), in this site http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/ You get to choose operational system, language and package system, to dowload. My best, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2zyq5wqfcjwwzshxqhmiu2pnktpwx_useqaxuslynd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Oddity in synaptic 0.75.13 (Wheezy)
On 18 October 2013 04:26, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: (Apologies for the earlier blank email. Hit Send rather than ... to expand the text...) ;) LMAO! What drama! The developer must've grabbed an Ubuntu patch and not cleaned up that part. It's just a question of filing a bug report to remove this. I agree its too much a drama. Yep, its something simple indeed! But still, we must take care. Debian is a very good product. Regards, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.)
Re: Jessie Minimum Kernel Requirement
On 17 October 2013 07:23, Bonno Bloksma b.blok...@tio.nl wrote: If I remember correctly it was in the step from Lenny to Squeeze. I know for sure I had to do it on several machines. Yup, just found it in my old notes, it was Lenny to Squeeze. Bonno Bloksma Hi Bonno, hi Reco, Yep, I confirm. I did this on my personal computers and two servers a while back. Kind of confusing... I almost lost one of the servers. I hope as time and Debian evolves, these procedures go safer and safer. Best, Beco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2xCV7-05vyqUjT9_XRqWLrHS3Tqg5=rsp7umty+pdf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Oddity in synaptic 0.75.13 (Wheezy)
On 17 October 2013 19:24, Cybe R. Wizard cybe_r_wiz...@earthlink.net wrote: Using synaptic 0.75.13 in Wheezy under the menu item, Settings, Repositories, the updates tab lists, Notify me of a new Ubuntu version. What? Is someone developing for Debian but promoting Ubuntu? Did Ubuntu push this version upstream? Inquiring mind and all that. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes The Barsoom Project I read this and could believe, so I went to synaptic to see. It's there. Debian trade-mark is a very strong, and brings with it so many attributes conquered over time. We must be careful to not let this happen. I understand people must be developing for ubuntu more than for debian, and that sometimes software goes the other way around. This collaboration between distros is very important. But keeping Debian Debian is of utter importance. It's a marketing issue, so I cc'd the debian-publicity mailing list to alert the problem. My best, Beco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2yWzCNuQ5D2=00qmygdicy9f653hbz4pfgb50rmuzg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: xtrs z80
On 16 October 2013 00:37, Glenn English g...@slsware.com wrote:
On Oct 15, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
I don't know if C was even available for the TRS-80 back then. If it
was it didn't cross my RADAR.
It might well have been. One of my first jobs in computing was to write an
evaluation of 3 C compilers on a Xerox CP/M box. I don't remember what they
were called, but I think they cost $$.
Aww, don't make it so easy. Have them do it in assembler. :)
Keep in mind that C is nothing but a collection of macros for PDP-11 assembly
language :-)
Hey guys,
Assembler! LOL! That is to break their legs! No, not so cruel. :)
Just to LINK a c program too much crazy. Considering how the language
evolved, to use, for example,
int main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char **argv;
Wow! That is really strange!
I also learned BASIC in one of these machines, more precisely a MODEL
III. How I loved it! I called it Elephant (all my computers have
names). I really regret that I sold it. Im looking for a good price to
buy one again. Even if it did not work, I can install a raspberry PI
or a arduino intel Galileo running xtrs emulator. But that is for the
future! Now I'm happy to remember the fun in my notebook.
I learned C some years later, in a PC-XT, in 1989 probably. Never
heard of a C compiler for TRS-80. But after so many years programming
C I thought I would give it a try. And I want to tell the fresh news:
I just succeed!
I've found this Misosys C: a complete KR C system at
http://tim-mann.org/misosys.html
Very nice! You also need to download MRAS assembler.
What a JOB to compile a simple program!! :) LOL
But I DID ! Ahahaha! (Bellow the whole sequence for your delight)
Now I want to program another one using printf to see if the link is ok.
Very funny. I think that little game I'm writing to learn debian
packaging, I'll include a port to TRS-80. (Actually, its a old game,
written originally on a TRS-80, in BASIC, that I lost the code, and I
rewrote it in C based on some other BASIC versions I have for PC-XT
and 486. Weird to move it back to TRS-80)
Cheers,
Beco.
PS. Here the C compilation process:
BTW, I renamed the JOB CONTROL LANGUAGE called MC/JCL that do all
the stuff bellow to GCC/JCL ! Now I feel more at home.
Just do:
DO GCC (N=program)
And it runs all the programs.
But here I run one at time:
L is the text editor Lazy Writer
If you know a better one, please tell me. But I kind of like this one.
Reminds me 'vi'.
LDOS Ready
L
int main()
{
putchar('A');
return 0;
}
s PUTCHAR/CCC*
LDOS Ready
MCP PUTCHAR/CCC:1
MISOSYS C Preprocessor - Version 1.6a - DOS 5.1.x
Copyright 1985,86 Riclin Computer Products. All rights reserved
13968 bytes free
Including PUTCHAR/CCC
Output PUTCHAR/TOK - Preprocessed file
LDOS Ready
MC1 PUTCHAR:1
MISOSYS C Compiler - Pass 1 - Version 1.6a - DOS 5.1.x
Copyright 1985, 1986 MISOSYS, INC. All rights reserved
5245 bytes free
...
main() {...}.
No error(s) found
LDOS Ready
MC2 PUTCHAR:1
MISOSYS C Compiler - Pass 2 - Version 1.6a - DOS 5.1.x
Copyright 1985, 1986 MISOSYS, INC. All rights reserved
4917 bytes free
...
main() {...}.
Output: PUTCHAR/ASM
LDOS Ready
MRAS MC +I=PUTCHAR +O=PUTCHAR -NL
MRAS 1.0a - Copyright (c) 1985 MISOSYS, Inc.,
All rights reserved.
Including MC
Including PUTCHAR
including MCMACS
000f is the transfer address
0 Total errors
26263 Free space
Output: PUTCHAR/REL - Relocatable Object File
LDOS Ready
MLINK PUTCHAR:1 +N=PUTCHAR:1 -E
MLINK 1.2 - Copyright (c) 1985 MISOSYS, Inc.,
All rights reserved.
L 5200-5BF4 09F5
32933 Free space
Output: PUTCHAR/CMD
LDOS Ready
PUTCHAR
A
LDOS Ready
Yaaay! :D
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Re: xtrs z80
On 15 October 2013 04:38, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Beco rcb at beco.cc writes: Is xtrs broken under wheezy? What is it anyway? A Tandy Trash 80 emulator? -- Stan Hi Stan, Yep, its an emulator for TRS-80 ! Please, don't call it by its ugly nickname (Trash!) :) I'm having lots of fun with this emulator. Today I could install a harddrive, mind you! It has (I believe, I need to compute it yet) 13 MB!! I'll put all software from various disketts I've collected in this single file. Now I just need to make it boot from the HD and I don't need even the OS on drive :0 anymore. As soon as I put a c compiler on it, I'll start using only my TRS-80 to work. Bye debian! It was nice to be with you! But things evolves, you know! Ahaha! I wonder what my students would do when I ask for the next assignment: -Do a program that reads 2 numbers and calculates the average, in C. - Just it, teacher? - Yep. But on a TRS80. LOL. Cheers, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.)
xtrs z80
Hi guys, Is xtrs broken under wheezy? I cant manage to run it. I only get a blank window. Anyone here uses it? Thanks! Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2z58etd7wCeVL59J49x4LtW6xg4TMCTa=wjphi-a+o...@mail.gmail.com
Re: xtrs z80
On 13 October 2013 17:22, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Hi guys, Is xtrs broken under wheezy? I cant manage to run it. I only get a blank window. Anyone here uses it? Thanks! Beco. Probably nobody uses it, but for the record (someone googling his way to here): Downloading the tar.gz from http://tim-mann.org/xtrs.html and installing from it works ok. (Should mark it as solved?) So, its probably some bug. What I got from the .deb installation is just a blank screen, and CTR-C brings this errors: beco@machine:~/Documents/hobby/cp500$ /usr/bin/xtrs -model 3 -autodelay -keystretch 400 -diskdir . -bg black -fg green XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0 after 2818 requests (2818 known processed) with 7 events remaining. beco@machine:~/Documents/hobby/cp500$ /usr/bin/xtrs -model 4 -autodelay -keystretch 400 -diskdir . -bg black -fg green XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0 after 2818 requests (2818 known processed) with 9 events remaining. Bye, B. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2x5t0dagnwngfybom_wi3uyx1nhfmcbsmurcqp14uh...@mail.gmail.com
Arduino TRE
Hi guys, Anyone have tested this Arduino TRE [1] with Debian? I'm very happy such enterprises still believe in, and produce hardware to linux! :) I bet this 1-GHz Sitara AM335x processor is very fast, suitable for most end-users to do basic stuff, like a small office or something. Cheers, Beco. [1] http://blog.arduino.cc/2013/10/03/a-sneak-preview-of-arduino-tre/ -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2wAiq6Gt0cy84un7gHQXJu7D376D=hucsuvvj2fhqr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Arduino TRE
On 3 October 2013 18:21, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: [1] http://blog.arduino.cc/2013/10/03/a-sneak-preview-of-arduino-tre/ You need to ask on the Debian ARM mailing list, or search the archive. -- Stan Thanks Stan! :) I just did. I hope I can ask without subscribing and read from archives, because it was more of a chat I would ask this list, than subscribing to such specific mailing list as debian arm. My best, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2wCyBE+B5jkXQTXU=i9r+1sda_am8wwdoqwjvva1ba...@mail.gmail.com
Default directory to put .mo file (language)
Hi mentors, Please, Would I better use /usr/share/locale or /usr/local/share/locale I'm programming an old game (from the 8 bits times). I'm starting with this because I got a suggestion on debian-user-list that starting with a library to learn packaging would be too hard. Now, this game is just plain console, text. A RPG you play typing commands. I'm doing the translation, and soon you will be able to play the best game ported to linux ever! :) So, don't assume I know packaging yet. I'm just trying to make my life easier when packaging comes. What would be the correct directory to put the translated/compiled files .mo (from msgfmt command)? And if you please, where would the game binary be installed ultimately? Thanks, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2xe9hs8i458c2eaukypopptxtsfppdstoutljbhrsm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Default directory to put .mo file (language)
On 3 October 2013 02:49, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Hi mentors, Please, Would I better use /usr/share/locale or /usr/local/share/locale I'm programming an old game (from the 8 bits times). I'm starting with this because I got a suggestion on debian-user-list that starting with a library to learn packaging would be too hard. Now, this game is just plain console, text. A RPG you play typing commands. I'm doing the translation, and soon you will be able to play the best game ported to linux ever! :) So, don't assume I know packaging yet. I'm just trying to make my life easier when packaging comes. What would be the correct directory to put the translated/compiled files .mo (from msgfmt command)? And if you please, where would the game binary be installed ultimately? Thanks, Beco Hi debians, This message was supposed to go to mentors. Now I better wait here for some answers instead of resending it to the other list. Sorry the confusion. Thanks any help, Beco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2xFrnoPGRQRJ42H9pxyevQsB=v49rnsjd1mxqsfrk7...@mail.gmail.com
RE: kernel compilation (was ... Re: Building computer)
On 29 September 2013 02:41, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:57:43PM -0300, Beco wrote: On 26 September 2013 22:22, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: (I've compiled a kernel on a netbook; you'd better have a few hours to spare...) Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines: You are better off starting a new thread. You could create a subtopic by changing the subject. Now unfortunately, information about compiling a kernel is buried in a thread about building a computer. :( From the thread Building computer, I've asked: On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 23:57 -0300, Beco wrote: How long a considered fast kernel compilation would last? I'd like to have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM / anything else relevant)? And I got some good answers that is better to join this thread: Just to dig it: Answer from Ralf: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01204.html From Stan: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01212.html From Johnatan: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01213.html From Tom: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01214.html From Stephen: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01245.html From Stan: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01285.html Also, the thread Building a computer for compiling and CPU emulation (Re: Building computer) https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01317.html Started by Joel Rees now looks like a duplicate. Please, join here. Thanks. Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2zBs+KqpPAwf5T-FzgzjiZq8Vnrq8aMgBCohJUM1i=2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: duplicate emails
Hi Cat, I'm receaving only one email at time from you. Might be people ccing you? BTW, I'm reading very interested your topic about building computer. Thanks. Beco. On 26 September 2013 14:49, Catherine Gramze rhia...@gmail.com wrote: I am getting numerous posts by me in my inbox, partially completed posts plus duplicate of full posts, but only for the debian-user emails. If this is happening on the entire list, I apologize. I am not repeatedly sending! I do not know the cause of this and will be trying to eliminate these if anybody can confirm I am inadvertently spamming the list in this way. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.)
Re: Building computer
On 26 September 2013 22:22, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: (I've compiled a kernel on a netbook; you'd better have a few hours to spare...) Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines: How long a considered fast kernel compilation would last? I'd like to have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM / anything else relevant)? Thanks! Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.)
Re: Volunteer in need of a mentor
On 23 September 2013 08:45, Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:24:27PM -0300, Beco wrote: Its time! I believe you want to subscribe to debian-devel, and pose this request there. -dsr- Thanks Dan, I sent to debian-ment...@lists.debian.org They told they don't appoint mentors. I also sent to mentor...@women.debian.org but got no response till now. Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2wJ-xYMSO=etfwwdn763uf6kdtjo6xhpu-xug5d2vh...@mail.gmail.com
Mentoring. (was Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release))
[snip] On 28 November 2012 09:39, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 November 2012 22:31:52 Beco wrote: I would like a mentor during my next vacation, to help me with .deb files. Here is a web-page that explains the scheme. Don't be put off by the mention of women. They mentor irrespective of gender. quote However, this group wouldn't exist within Debian without the support of the men within the Debian community and the mentoring program does administer to both male and female mentees. And there are both male and female mentors. /quote http://women.debian.org/mentoring And/or you can send an email to: mentor...@women.debian.org requesting a mentor. There are more mentors than are mentioned on the link I gave you above. Some have chosen not to make themselves visible in this way. The name, of course, is sexist. It was originally started to try to get more women into developing; to improve the conversion rate for women in Debian, if you will. But that was some while ago, and it now caters for both genders. Do keep me posted on how you get on! [snip] Cheers, Lisi Hi Lisi, Do you have any news about the mentoring program? Catherine Gramze, as Lisi explained, they mentor both male and female. My best, Beco. -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2yx27qtmuu3wzzt6hjxvjqadpj5lzgtahokbhdntg_...@mail.gmail.com
