Re: Need help in X Windows installation

1997-12-13 Thread Bryan Barcelo
At 08:50 AM 12/12/97 +0100, Sten Anderson wrote:
Tommy Lakofski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 whoops, this should have gone to the list too.
 
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 On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
  [ I said: ]
   It is NOT necessary for the last command to be started with exec. In
   fact, exec should only be used on the window manager, and only if
that 
   is the last command in .xinitrc. The problem is more likely the use of
   's. Every program started in .xinitrc should have  appended EXCEPT
   the window manager. 
 
 Doesn't a /bin/sh stick around if you don't use exec? Or did that change
 at some point? I think I put exec in my .xsession before the windowmanager
 when I first installed debian (buzz) to make the /bin/sh go away, and it's
 been there ever since. 

Yes, by using exec to launch a command from a script, the process
associated with the script (/bin/sh) is replaced by the process
associated with the command. This saves a few system resources, since 
the script process is not laying sleeping in the background for no
purpose. The program pstree is an excellent tool to see the effect of
this. However, the improvement of performance by this is barely
measurable. I am simply arguing that while it is generally a good
idea to uses exec, it is not that important, and certainly not
required. In fact it might give you some unexpected effects, if exec
is used on anything else than the last command in a script.   


The last line of my .xinitrc file 'exec's a window manager without the
ampersand and so far, I have installed all window managers and by far they
all worked except for olvwm. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Bryan


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Re: Need help in X Windows installation

1997-12-11 Thread Bryan Barcelo
At 09:15 AM 12/10/97 -0600, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
These messages do not indicate a fatal error, only that you haven't
installed these X extensions. If you're using your own .xinitrc,
are you sure that the last command uses 'exec' rather than just
running a program? This would cause the X server to immediately exit.

Yes, my last command was an 'exec' which I used to load olvwm. Regarding
the extensions, are these options I can choose from dselect?

Bryan


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Re: Need help in X Windows installation

1997-12-11 Thread Bryan Barcelo
At 04:32 PM 12/10/97 +0100, Sten Anderson wrote:
Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 These messages do not indicate a fatal error, only that you haven't
 installed these X extensions. If you're using your own .xinitrc,
 are you sure that the last command uses 'exec' rather than just
 running a program? This would cause the X server to immediately exit.

It is NOT necessary for the last command to be started with exec. In
fact, exec should only be used on the window manager, and only if that 
is the last command in .xinitrc. The problem is more likely the use of
's. Every program started in .xinitrc should have  appended EXCEPT
the window manager. 

Well, that's right. All the commands in my .xinitrc script end in  except
for the one loading the window manager.  Thanks.

Bryan


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Re: Need help in X Windows installation

1997-12-10 Thread Bryan Barcelo
Hi Paul,

Sorry to bother you again, but I found the file you said and checked it out
and it seemed okay. I also made changes to the .xinitrc file in my
subdirectory. It worked for fvwm2 but when I replaced fvwm2 with olvwm,
xwindows loads up to the light blue background and then shuts down totally
with the last 2 messages reading:

PEX extension module not loaded
XIE extension module not loaded

Any idea how to solve this problem?

Thanks in advance,
Bryan

At 08:25 AM 12/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
Hello Bryan,yes there is a file that has the windows manager information.
It also tells what order to start them in.  But you can only have one
running at a time.  Here is mine, it is in /etc/X11/windows-managers

# This file contains a list of available window managers. The default
# Xsession file will start the first window manager that it can
# in this list.
/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2
/usr/local/bin/enlightenment -theme
/usr/local/enlightenment/themes/dreamworks
/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95-2
/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm
/usr/X11R6/bin/twm
#-- afterstep begin
/usr/X11R6/bin/afterstep
#-- afterstep end

I hope this helps.  If you have any more questions then email me.
Paul


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Need help in X Windows installation

1997-12-09 Thread Bryan Barcelo
Hi! I'm having problems running X Windows after installing it. There's no 
default window manager after running 'startx' at the command prompt even 
if I specified one during the installation, so I have to type whatever 
window manager I want to use at the console after it starts up. Does 
anyone know what files should contain what lines? Any help will be highly 
appreciated.

Bryan Barcelo
EarthGate Information Services, Inc.
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