Re: Problem with ncurses when making make menuconfig

2001-09-24 Thread Calvin Chong
pseudo-html
Did somebody says

libncurses5-dev? :P

moreover, please refrain from using HTML posts..
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- Original Message -
From: Ricardo Diz
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:39 PM
Subject: Problem with ncurses when making make menuconfig


Hi!

I tried to config my kernel using make menuconfig in a console and it
exited with

/usr/bin/ld : cannot find -lncurses
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

 Unable to find the Ncurses libraries

although I have ncurses installed.

I can use make xconfig in a X environment but I rather do it in a console.

I tried to reinstall ncurses (ncurses-base, ncurses-term and libncurses5)
with no sucess in my next attempt. What should be the problem?

Thanks in advance,
Ricardo Diz





Re[2]: startx not for normal user?

2001-09-04 Thread Calvin Chong
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Hello Remco,

With reference to your great message on below,
RvtV My FreeBSD installation (also using XFree86 3.3.6) sets up like this:

RvtV lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel9 May 11 11:01 /usr/X11R6/bin/X - 
XF86_SVGA
RvtV -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  3482353 May 11 11:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA
RvtV -rws--x--x  1 root  wheel 7573 May 11 11:01 /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper
RvtV -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 1652 May 11 11:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
RvtV -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel10344 May 11 11:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit

RvtV As you can see only the trusted Xwrapper executable is SUID.  But
RvtV Xwrapper is missing from my Debian potato installation..

On my holy debian:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/X11$ ls /usr/X11R6/bin/X -l
- -rwsr-sr-x1 root root 7100 May 30 08:22 /usr/X11R6/bin/X

X should be Xwrapper thyself.. :-)


RvtV On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 01:32, Calvin Chong wrote:

 Hello Martin,

 With reference to your great message on below,
 MFK also sprach Calvin Chong (on Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:21:25AM +0800):
  Please check that your X is chmod'ed to rwsrwsr-x

 MFK don't make X setuid!!!

 if I don't make /usr/bin/X11/X suid how can Xwrapper work?
 correct me if i'm wrong.. :-)

 regards,
 evil

 MFK martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
 MFK   \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED]






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Re[2]: Ethernet Card recommendation

2001-09-04 Thread Calvin Chong
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Hello Antonio,

With reference to your great message on below,
AR I have the 3c* in the kernel (not as module), my 3c509b has pnp disabled (i
AR did it using tjhe dos utility), but still the kernel does not recognize it!
AR The only thing that I could think of is that the kernel image was created
AR and installed when the pnp had not been disabled yet, but I am not sure it
AR would influence the kernel image creation (i am not sure if the kernel image
AR creation involves comparing options with running machine hardware).
AR Any ideas? Thanks

I think you need PNP and ISAPNP enabled.. :-)

AR - Original Message -
AR From: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AR To: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AR Cc: Jordi S . Bunster [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-isp@lists.debian.org
AR Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:54 AM
AR Subject: Re: Ethernet Card recommendation


 On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 06:30:52PM +0300, Vasil Kolev wrote:
 
  On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Jordi S . Bunster wrote:
   Are the 3COM a good choice? Which ones exactly?
 
  I recommend 3com 3c905B or 3c905C cards - they work wonderful for me.

 i'll second that.

 excellent cards.

 craig

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Re[2]: startx not for normal user?

2001-09-03 Thread Calvin Chong
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Hello Remco,

With reference to your great message on below,
RvtV Hmm, after trying gdm (with partial success) and reinstalling xdm,
RvtV the latter seems to work..  But I still don't understand why I am not
RvtV allowed to run startx.  I noticed /etc/X11/Xserver reads Console,
RvtV which seems to imply anybody on the console is allowed to run X.

RvtV I am sorry about replying to my own post..

Please check that your X is chmod'ed to rwsrwsr-x

:-)

regards,
evil

RvtV On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 18:04, Remco van 't Veer wrote:

 Hi,

 I just installed Debian on a fresh workstation but only root can open
 a X session.  First I tried startx using a normal user but it
 complains:

   xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions.
   You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm.
   We strongly advice against make the server SUID!

 I am unable to find Xwrapper and xdm doesn't let me login.  Xdm
 restarts immediately after I type my password.  The logfile xdm.log
 reads:

   AUDIT: Mon Sep 3 16:00:00 2001: 599 X: client 2 rejected from local host
 Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
   Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
   ..

 I removed the .Xauthority file, but that does not help.  Does anybody
 know how I can fix this?

 TIA,
 Remco






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Re: Weird font problem with gnumeric, gimp and others

2001-09-03 Thread Calvin Chong
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Hello Dominique,

With reference to your great message on below,

DD Hello

DD When I launch gimp (for the first time), the 'GIMP Installation'
DD window shows only lines and lines of squares instead of text.

Please give some information about your locale set.. :-)
and it would be best if you could

[problematic program] 21 | tee error_msg

and attach it :-)

DD I have the same problem with gnumeric cells but only for a
DD magnification above 75%. And if I type 6 letters in a gnumeric cell,
DD only 3 square blocks are shown. (could it be an attempt to display 16
DD bits characters ?)

Then i wonder that it's a function-not-a-problem... :-)
it may be an attempt to hide small character (correct me if i'm wrong)
to give u a general look on your spreadsheet.

DD The number are displayed correctly in gnumeric if I choose a
DD magnification below 100%.

[Question] what about 100%  magn  75%? huh? :P

DD I'm running unstable debian on a 1600x1200 display.

DD Here's the configuration of my xserver:
DD Font Path:
DD   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
DD   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,
DD   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
DD   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
DD   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
DD   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,
DD   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,
DD   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/

These are not a problem...

DD Has anyone a clue on how to fix this problem ?

DD Thanks





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Re: xwrapper not available? (Re: startx not for normal user?)

2001-09-03 Thread Calvin Chong
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Hello Remco,

With reference to your great message on below,
We strongly advice against make the server SUID!

eh?!

please stat /usr/bin/X11/X urself!! :p

RvtV So, I won't..  But thanks for your workaround.  Does anybody know were
RvtV Xwrapper can be found for a Debian potato installation?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/X11$ cat Xwrapper.config
allowed_users=console
nice_value=-10

check if your Xwrapper.config is looking like this.

RvtV On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 00:21, Calvin Chong wrote:


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Re[4]: startx not for normal user?

2001-09-03 Thread Calvin Chong
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Hello Martin,

With reference to your great message on below,
MFK also sprach Calvin Chong (on Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:21:25AM +0800):
 Please check that your X is chmod'ed to rwsrwsr-x

MFK don't make X setuid!!!

if I don't make /usr/bin/X11/X suid how can Xwrapper work?
correct me if i'm wrong.. :-)

regards,
evil

MFK martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
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Re: Problems with APM after recompiling of kernel.

2001-09-02 Thread Calvin Chong
I suggest NO APM for SMP machines...

Ma che mistero, e la mia vita, che mistero!
Sono un peccatore dell'anno ottantamila, un menzognero!
Ma dove sono e cosa faccio, come vivo?
Vivo nell'anima del mondo perso nel vivere profondo!
- Original Message -
From: Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Problems with APM after recompiling of kernel.


 On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:06:58PM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote:
  Interestingly, I have a similar problem on my laptop.  The 2.4.9
  kernel broke apm (/proc/apm didn't exist) but it appeared to load
  properly on bootup.  2.4.8 still works fine though.

 I can not see /proc/apm even in my stock 2.4.8-686-smp (from
kernel-image).

 Does the use of intrd affects power-off feature of apm bios?

 I have append=apm=on apm=power-off set in lilo.conf

 Intrigued


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Re: Off Topic: Mailing Agents?

2001-09-02 Thread Calvin Chong
 also sprach Adam Bell (on Wed, 25 Jul 2001 04:04:35PM -0400):
  Okay, so can anyone tell me what popular (to Debian Users) MUA sends
every
  single message as an attachment to an empty message?

 as others have said, it's micro$oft's inability to stick to standards
 --- PGP/GPG nowadays uses MIME for signed and encrypted messages,
 which mickysoft can't handle...

huh, however, outlook express on an hackintosh can read these messages
*correctly*...
what a shame on microsoft (and on me..)


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Re: Installing a single file

2001-09-01 Thread Calvin Chong

Ma che mistero, e la mia vita, che mistero!
Sono un peccatore dell'anno ottantamila, un menzognero!
Ma dove sono e cosa faccio, come vivo?
Vivo nell'anima del mondo perso nel vivere profondo!
- Original Message -
From: Steve Dondley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian-Users debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:46 PM
Subject: Installing a single file


 Background:
 I just installed the vim text editor.  When I try to access the help file
 with :help, it says the file, /usr/share/vim/doc/help.txt, is not found.

 Question:
 How do I find and install this one single file from my CDs?

 Thanks.


apt-get install vim-rt



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Re: ALERT: XFree86 4.1.0-3 maintainer scripts hosed; please wait for 4.1.0-4

2001-08-31 Thread Calvin Chong
You should NOT purge the ash package if you, by any means
need something called 'initrd' or 'kernel-image'.

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To: Bruce Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: ALERT: XFree86 4.1.0-3 maintainer scripts hosed; please wait
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Re: apt-get - segmentaton fault

2001-08-31 Thread Calvin Chong
- Original Message -
From: cdpye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:44 PM
Subject: apt-get - segmentaton fault


 Hi,

 apt-get update is causing problems ever since I tried to install gnupg

 It failed to install due to a segmentation fault. Now whenever I try
apt-get
 update I get the following error,
 E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object

 Could someone please tell me if they know of a way to fix or at least why
 this is happening.

try to deinstall gnupg first -

# dpkg --purge --force-all gnupg
# apt-get update
# apt-get install gnupg

that should work for you.
moreover, please do give a bug report with respect to your segfault to
the package maintainer of {gnupg|apt}.

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Re: old bbkeys version

2001-08-31 Thread Calvin Chong
- Original Message -
From: Jorge Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:42 PM
Subject: old bbkeys version


 Hello, I just realized that the version of bbkeys in Debian (testing
 and unstable) is quite old (0.3.6) while the current version is 0.8.2.

 Is it correct to file a bug for this or what should I do to make
 the mantainer aware of this in case he is not?

normally you would want to file a wishlist bug to the package; and
send a nice mail to -devel mailing list too. i suggest that the package
maintainer may have been really busy that he haven't been working
with the package with a while (no pun intended..)

-C


 thank you

 jorge santos


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Re: RedHat vs Debian?

2001-08-30 Thread Calvin Chong
   I'm looking for a study/comparison of RedHat vs Debian.  We have a
number
 of boxes, some production, which run everything from RedHat 6.0 and newer.
 I'd like to look at converting to Debian stable but need to justify my
case
 before I can even formally suggest it.  I've started listing my own
 reasons and issues but need more.  Any good suggestions or comparisions
 already done?

Let's say,

(1) your systems are _production models_, and you want to use debian
because you don't want to take risk on security and stability.

resolvation -
do not upgrade - the risk of upgrading is always higher than the
risk of getting the system screwed up by a upgrade.
however, any further machines can be debian w/o problems since you
are building it from scratch.

woody for you :-)

(2) your systems are _upgradable production models_, and you want to
use debian for admin-wise ease.

resolvation -
ok, try cloning some working station to a testing platform, backup the data
on a third computer, install debian on testing platform; upgrade to woody,
put back working files, run it for a day or two, see if you get some
complaints
if no, try a box or two for a month, if still working, do it. (remember to
set
cron job to upgrade _potato_ boxes, however, for woody and sid, i suggest
manual upgrade packages (apt-get update; apt-get install [package] = upgrade
ONE package.. :P))

(3) you think i'm a nerd to answer such short question in paragraph length

resolvation -
close this mail

my $6.62*10**-34 dollars :P

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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:33 PM
Subject: RedHat vs Debian?





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[Quite-OT] Kernel bombs on debian instalation

2001-08-29 Thread Calvin Chong



Recently thrown to a case from friends, having such 
configuration:

IWill KD266 Mainboard (ALi1535D+ south 
bridge)
Athlon Thunderbird 1GHz Tested, Functional by 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
another M.B.
128 MB Tested (Memtest86) RAM

Isolated Hardwares:

Seagate ST330620A (Functional, Tested on my Intel 
system)
Rioch MP7083A (Functional, Tested)

Now i wonder that the chipset may be failed; having 
googled on
Ali Chipset and discovered some post on kernel 
mailing list about
that - however, there are no quite good replies 
there except quite
a bit of code from alan cox. :~

anyone have experience on this?

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Re: vim syntax highlight on C program files only?

2001-08-28 Thread Calvin Chong
You need to tell vim that your terminal is white on black - it's defaulted
to the opposite :-)
A gas which obeys to the perfect gas equation is a perfect gas,
where the perfect gas equation describes the relationship
between pressure, volume and temperature of a perfect gas.
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From: Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com
To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:26 AM
Subject: OT: vim syntax highlight on C program files only?





Re: vim syntax highlight on C program files only?

2001-08-28 Thread Calvin Chong
set background=dark
syntax on

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Subject: Re: vim syntax highlight on C program files only?





Re: IBM P/2 MCA BUS

2001-08-28 Thread Calvin Chong

A gas which obeys to the perfect gas equation is a perfect gas,
where the perfect gas equation describes the relationship
between pressure, volume and temperature of a perfect gas.
- Original Message -
From: Joanne  Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:22 PM
Subject: IBM P/2 MCA BUS


 Hello and good day to you


 I Have an old P/2 486 scsi system MCA BUS

 which version can I use ?

Slink, Potato and Woody, also sid.


 Thanks Dave


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Re: a news reader able to extract correctly the stuff of a.b.* groups?

2001-08-28 Thread Calvin Chong

A gas which obeys to the perfect gas equation is a perfect gas,
where the perfect gas equation describes the relationship
between pressure, volume and temperature of a perfect gas.
- Original Message -
From: Bruno Boettcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:42 PM
Subject: a news reader able to extract correctly the stuff of a.b.* groups?


 Hello!
 i am experiencing some problems with my favourite newsreader (trn) to
 extract archives from alt.binary groups.

 in fact if the order isn't exactly matched or if by some means another
 archive begiinning crosses the actual decompression process and the
 whole thing vanishes in the void

 is there any newsreader out there that is less error-prone and more
 indulgent concerning the extraction of archives? beeing notably be able
 to reorder itself the parts it downloaded?

 would be nice if i could select by regexp or everything from a group and
 let it extract without needing to save all to disk and then reorder
 using a mail-client

What about PAN?


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Re: Options passed to ./configure for the official debian packages

2001-08-28 Thread Calvin Chong

A gas which obeys to the perfect gas equation is a perfect gas,
where the perfect gas equation describes the relationship
between pressure, volume and temperature of a perfect gas.
- Original Message -
From: Francois Fayard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:54 PM
Subject: Options passed to ./configure for the official debian packages


 Hello,

 I would like to know where to find wich options where passed to
./configure
 before the compilation of Debian packages (Especially for gcc).

apt-get source [package]

and then RTFS :-)


 Thanks
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Re: Rerunning software installation utility

2001-08-28 Thread Calvin Chong

A gas which obeys to the perfect gas equation is a perfect gas,
where the perfect gas equation describes the relationship
between pressure, volume and temperature of a perfect gas.
- Original Message -
From: dman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian-Users debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: Rerunning software installation utility


 On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:51:07PM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote:
 | Hi,
 |
 | Situation:
 | I did a bare installation of Debian on my computer.  In other words,
when
 | the Debian installation asked me which kinds of packages I wanted to
install
 | on my hard drive, I didn't select anything.  To clarify, I'm talking
about

 | installation option.
 |
 | Question:
 | What I'd like to do is run that package installation program again so I
can
 | install all the HOWTOs, Info, faqs, etc. docs on the hard drive in one
fell
 | swoop.  How do I run this utility?

 That utility is called dselect.  You can use it or any of the other
 apt programs or frontends.  apt-get, aptitude and console-apt
 come to mind.  Try them out and pick the one you like the best.
 (apt-get is a command-line tool, the others are curses based).

  | the utility that runs after the user selects the Simple package

it's simple one - so tasksel, not dselect :-)
-C


 HTH,
 -D


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Re: Installing Perl 5.6.1

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong
- Original Message -
From: Steve Dondley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian-Users debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:11 PM
Subject: Installing Perl 5.6.1


 Situation:
 Debian ships with Perl 5.005.  But there are more recent versions of Perl
 and Debian lists two versions of Perl 5.6.1, testing and unstable.

(1)
Debian Stable (2.2r*) ships with Perl 5.005 - here, stable refers to the
whole
distribution and have nothing to do with the software inside. For example,
if
software foo-1.0 released just after potato has released, no one can put
foo-1.0 into the Stable distribution without waiting for next release.

And debian should list one version of Perl 5.6.1 in two different
distribution
(Sid and Woody) and not two version in one distribution. Testing and
unstable,
too, refers to the whole distribution, and not perl.

 Questions:
 5.6.1 has been out quite a while and Perl.com lists 5.6.1 as stable.
What
 about it is not considered stable for use on Debian?  Or is the
unstable
 label just some kind of formality?

as described in (1)


 Is there a way to install 5.6.1 without wiping out 5.005?  In other words,
 can I have both versions running on my machine, allowing the scripts to
 determine which version of Perl to use?  Please keep in mind I'm a total
 Linux newbie and barely know how to use apt-get.

yes, however, i suggest that you should install it by yourself using source
from perl.com (and install it into /usr/local/bin and not /usr/bin, by
convention.)


 Thanks for your help.

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Re: Sharing files between Linux Windows machines on LAN

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong
My heartily suggestion

# apt-get install samba

then

# vi /etc/samba/smb.conf

(or if you are that newbie,)

# nano /etc/samba/smb.conf

add:

# requires user-level access to computer to access this resource;
# however, it's read-write.

[sharing]
   comment = File Sharing
   browseable = yes
   read only = no
   create mask = 0700
   directory mask = 0700

and comment the whole [homes] thing.

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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: Sharing files between Linux  Windows machines on LAN



Re: Installation of Debian

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong

A gas which obeys to the perfect gas equation is a perfect gas,
where the perfect gas equation describes the relationship
between pressure, volume and temperature of a perfect gas.
- Original Message -
From: Stathy G. Touloumis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Installation of Debian



 Another possiblity is to install a base system, modify the bootloader,
 put a getty on serial, and pray.  Not that I've tried this.

 That is actually what I did but the base system is the Cobalt 2 OS.  I
have
 to follow a portion of their procedure up until the Init process because
 the bootp, nfs mounting and kernel loading is done from eprom which at
this
 time I cannot reprogram (nor do I want to).  After that it is all shell
 scripts and Perl which handle the OS reload.

 What on the standard debian installation takes care of partitioning and
 package installation?

cfdisk
tasksel + dpkg + apt-get



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Re: adminning mult boxen

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong
 On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 11:52:06PM -0700, der.hans wrote:
 | moin, moin,
 |
 | luckily we're all debian at work. Makes life really, really easy
admin-wise.

 I'd like to use Debian at work.  Lucky.

 | We are now, however, needing to get serious about making sure config
changes
 | get rolled out as appropriate. In previous gigs I've used roll your own
 | packages. At one place, however, we had an admin using cfengine. Looks
 | interesting, but even I know enough to not consider des encrypted :). It
 | also mightily takes away from the wonderful, simple file structure
 | configuration that *NIX has[1].
 |
 | Anything out there that anyone wants to recommend? Anything that works
 | really well with debian? Not often that I get a homogenious Linux
network to
 | play with :).

 Perhaps you can take the hard drives out of most of the boxes and
 stick them in a single high-powered box.  Then make that high-powered
 box the server and the rest as diskless X terminals.  This way the
 terminals have no config on them to deal with, it is all unified on
 the server.

I suggest a ramdisk on all those client (i.e. ramdisk cached /home/user
and non-ramdisk /home/user/storage/) for all those thin-clients. this
is to solve the 'customization problem'.


 -D

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Re: Installing woody without downloading lots of MB?

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong
Magnus von Koeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Hi,

 I currently have a Mandrake 8.0 and although I like some parts of it I am
 very intrigued from the experience of installing / maintaining Debian 2.2
on
 two firewalls / routers. The problem, though, is that I am depending on a
 working copy of KDE 2.2 and would very much like to try out stuff like
 XFree86 4.10 ...

 Now, I have Debian 2.2 CDs and a high-bandwidth but VERY expensive
internet
 connection. If my traffic costs weren't so high I would simply install 2.2
 and then upgrade to testing (woody) but that would cost me huge amounts of
 money.

use the flat access connection to get {unofficial} woody image from fsn.hu,
etc.
then burn it. (I suggest that apt-get updating and apt-get dist-upgrading
will get
you a painful bill, though).


 I do have access to a flat internet connection at a friend's house,
though.
 He would burn me on CD anything I want but I don't really know how I can
make
 it easily possible for him to download an update / the whole woody distro
for
 me and put it on CD.

 So, what's the best way for me to get a working woody distro running on my
 computer without downloading lots of stuff over my internet connection?

 Thanks.

 - -M

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Re: adminning mult boxen

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong
  On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:42:17PM +0800, Calvin Chong wrote:

 |  Perhaps you can take the hard drives out of most of the boxes and
 |  stick them in a single high-powered box.  Then make that high-powered
 |  box the server and the rest as diskless X terminals.  This way the
 |  terminals have no config on them to deal with, it is all unified on
 |  the server.
 |
 | I suggest a ramdisk on all those client (i.e. ramdisk cached /home/user
 | and non-ramdisk /home/user/storage/) for all those thin-clients. this
 | is to solve the 'customization problem'.

 What is the 'customization problem'?  /home should be mounted rw
 anyways.  All terminals would be using the same /home directory so it
 wouldn't matter which terminal you logged into.

I was thinking of a internet-cafe like solution for that, but with a bit
permanent
storage - that is, the rebooting-means-reborning-scene.


 -D


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Re: Installation of Debian

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong
Stathy G. Touloumis wrote:
 
 cfdisk
 tasksel + dpkg + apt-get
 
 I was not able to find the cfdisk package or apt-get.  Are they under 
 different package names?

yes

gateway:/var/log# dpkg -S /sbin/cfdisk 
util-linux: /sbin/cfdisk

 
 



Re: Testing upgrade problem?

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong

- Original Message -
From: D. Hoyem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:09 PM
Subject: Testing upgrade problem?


 I had Potato 2.2r.2 installed on my system and did a
 upgrade to testing.  I changed the sources to testing
 and did apt-get update.  Then did a apt-get
 dist-upgrade.  About 270 programs downloaded and then
 started to install. During the installation I kept
 seeing the message Unable to (and I forget this word)
 program. Apt-utils not installed. After those

Not preconfiguring package - Apt-utls not installed.
Deinstallation of startx (xbases-client) does not make
sense with this... :o

 packeages were installed all I could do was use the
 console, I tried startx and that came back command
 unknown.  I then installed xdm (received the same
 message) and the dependicies that it required and was
 up and running.  I then installed apt-utils and then
 another couple of programs and never saw that error
 message again. The question is this, should I
 reinstall the basic Potato, install apt-utils then do
 the dist-upgrade, I can copy all of the downloaded
 files to another disk and then restore them to the
 /var/cache/apt/archives, or is there another way to do
 this.  My system does not currently seem broke.  I
 apologize for not remembering the exact wording of the
 message.

It's working now, then it's not broke now.

 Any help and suggestion are appreciated.
 Thanks
 Don

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Re: Colour coding in vim?

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:58 PM
Subject: Colour coding in vim?


 Hi all you vim fans.

 Is it possible to colour code text in vim?  What I would like to do is
 make vim colour my .c files while I edit them.  For example, it would be
 good to see all the comments coded a different colour.

You need vim-rt (VIM support files) and :syntax on


 How do you do this?

 Thanks.
 Mark.


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Re: Hard disk messages

2001-08-27 Thread Calvin Chong
I would suggest:

- incorrectly set power options (sleep)
- hdparm -Y (dangerous!!)
- hardware failure


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- Original Message -
From: George Karaolides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:29 AM
Subject: Hard disk messages



 Hi,

 I have installed Debian potato on a couple of boxes with IDE disks.
 Sometimes I get the following console message on both boxes:

 hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
 hda: no DRQ after issuting WRITE
 ide0: reset: Success

 What, if anything, is wrong?

 Best regards,

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Re: Can't into my server ?

2001-08-26 Thread Calvin Chong
I suspect /etc/nologin, however.

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From: Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com
To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: Can't into my server ?





Re: VMware related configuration

2001-08-26 Thread Calvin Chong
u wrote:

 How do I configure the kernel to enable VMware to compile and load its
module? What are the necessary kernel configs (such as what should be
compiled as modules/ in the kernel) to enable VMware to work? I'm currently
using an AMD Duron 700 PC with the kernel 2.4.8-ac6 (debianized from
source), GCC 3.0 and glibc 2.1.3 installed.

re run the insatllation script.

 Thanks,

 Paolo Falcone

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Re: [OT] German-English translation tools

2001-08-25 Thread Calvin Chong
- Original Message -
From: Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: trilug@trilug.org
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 10:03 PM
Subject: [OT] German-English translation tools


 Does anyone know of any free (or at least reasonably cheap) tools to
 assist in translation? I'm explicitly *not* looking for a program that
 attempts to fully translate texts, but rather something to help with some
 of the dirty work as I begin translating some previously unavailable
 articles from German. It could be something as simple as a fairly
 comprehensive electronic dictionary, or possibly an NLP tool that makes a
 stab at syntax as well.  Available for linux or solaris is a very large
 plus, but I'll put up with windows if I absolutely have to.

I think that babelfish will do

http://babelfish.altavista.com/


 Thanks for any advice.

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Re: can't find kmod info

2001-08-23 Thread Calvin Chong

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- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: can't find kmod info


 I am having difficulty loading the 2.4.9 kernel, I get an error in kmod,
something to the effect

 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-464c, errno = 8

binfmt-464c is ELF, that means that you got a ELF executable and the kernel
can't execute it natively (reads: no builtin support for ELF).

however, if you get this from 'modprobe', probably you want to do a

alias binfmt-464c off

in modules.conf :)


 I have looked all over and can't find anything documenting kmod.  I don't
know what binfmt-464c is either.  I made a list of all drivers I configured
as modules for the kernel build, and it included binfmt_misc, binfmt_elf,
and binfmt_aout, and that's it.  I guess what I need to know is:

 1) Where is info / documentation on kmod?  I've only found it for
kerneld...

kmod is a sort-of wrapper for loading modules,

extern int request_module(const char * name);

usually we use it when in another module :P

 2) what is binfmt-464c for?

 Thanks!




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Re: Kernel Support for 3COM and Intel EtherExpress

2001-08-22 Thread Calvin Chong
 that 3Com card before but can't recall which module I used before...

the module should be called 3c59x

rgrds,
calvin

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- Original Message -
From: Jeremy T. Bouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: Kernel Support for 3COM and Intel EtherExpress


 I'm not sure on the 3Com card but the Intel EtherExpress Pro 100
 should use the standard eepro100 NIC driver that is built by default on
 any of the pre-compiled Debian kernels... I have several machines which
 use this card and have no problems with it... I believe I might have used


 Hope that helps,
 Jeremy T. Bouse

 On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 08:02:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi, does anyone know what I need to enable to use the EtherExpress Pro
100
  PCI NIC card from Intel, and the 3COM Fast EtherLink PCI 10/100 NIC card
in
  my kernel config? All I can seem to find is ISA. I tried to install
these
  from the Debian installer but it kept failing, maybe those were the ISA
  drivers.
 
  Can anyone help?
  Thanks,
  Deven G.
 
 
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Re: how to make exim run queue only when ppp link is up?

2001-08-22 Thread Calvin Chong
Honestly,

ps aux | grep `cat /var/run/ppp0.pid` | grep ppp  /dev/null  echo yes ||
echo no

Should give something better than that check... eh, but it requires r00t
right.. :)

-calvin

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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: how to make exim run queue only when ppp link is up?





Re: pdf editor

2001-07-30 Thread Calvin Chong
 
 to find out where to put your text in the sourcecode. i did this several
 times and as in most forms the position where to fill in text is marked with
 dots it's easy to find it.

   i tried you suggestion. But all i was a lot of control charc and not much
 of text as it should have been. Looks it is encrypted. In such a case how
 would you edit it and fill up the forms?

 regards
 harsha
consult the code written by the arrested guy in america.. :X

-calvin



Re: Copying Linux to a new drive

2001-07-29 Thread Calvin Chong
Title: Re: Copying Linux to a new drive



How does one copy a complete Linux install from one hard drive to another? I've tried using the cp command with various parameters, but to no avail. There seems to be lots of special files and directories (/proc for example) that cp can't handle. Any suggestions?




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cp -ax should help.





Re: sshd and telnetd startup time

2001-07-24 Thread Calvin Chong
 Hello,
 
 I just installed Debian on an older Pentium 120MHz machine.

 It takes forever to connect to this machine via telnet or SSH.
 I suspect it is because the respective servers has to start up
 when a connection request is recieved. There is, however,
 little or no activity on the machine while a connection request
 is in progress.

 I would like to try to keep the servers in memory at all
 times to see if that speeds up connection times. A little
 bit like running smbd and nmbd from daemons instead of
 from inetd Could the same thing be done for sshd and
 telnetd? And if so, how?

please check that if you have an good entry in /etc/hosts



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Re: sshd and telnetd startup time

2001-07-24 Thread Calvin Chong
 I would like to try to keep the servers in memory at all
 times to see if that speeds up connection times. A little
 bit like running smbd and nmbd from daemons instead of
 from inetd Could the same thing be done for sshd and
 telnetd? And if so, how?

 please check that if you have an good entry in /etc/hosts

 Entries for what? The clients that tries to connect? Why?

 The clients gets their IPs assigned to them from a DHCP server,
 so adding them to hosts would be a nightmare to maintain.

check if you have got

[local host name] [local IP]

in your /etc/hosts - that's becuse a server need to resolve its host
name to get itself done.



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Re: What's the NVI recovery program? Could this be a trojan?

2001-07-23 Thread Calvin Chong
 Hi-
 
  I found the message below in my Balsa Inbox.
  Is there such a thing? Why did it appear in my mailbox?
  Should I be worried about trojans and the like?
  Thanks,
  Henry

hello,

nvi is an editor with almost the best recovery option there in the field, i
would say you are probably editing a file before system is down - you can
now save the file by doin this:

# vi -r /usr/share/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf

regards,

lamer :)



 - Forwarded message from Nvi recovery program root -

 On Mon Apr  9 14:15:41 2001, the user root was editing a
 file named /usr/share/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf on the machine
 siddhi.samsara, when it was saved for recovery. You can
 recover most, if not all, of the changes to this file using
 the -r option to vi:

  vi -r /usr/share/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf
 - End forwarded message -







Re: Date Problems...

2001-07-18 Thread Calvin Chong
on 7/18/01 11:34 AM, Leonard Leblanc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey All,
 
 This is probably going to be an easy question for most of you, but I can't
 seem to get a grasp on what the problem is...
 
 # hwclock
 Tue Jul 17 22:38:11 2001  -0.044470 seconds
 # hwclock --localtime
 Wed Jul 18 03:37:34 2001  -0.558978 seconds
 # uname -a
 Sat Nov 18 18:47:15 EST 2000
 
 This one completely has me baffled and I can't seem to find any information
 on it.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

This may be a problem due to timezone settings - but 'm quite SURE that you
get it wrong - use ntpdate



Re: perl question

2001-07-17 Thread Calvin Chong
Simply Speaking, This would have been done better with these
shell commands:

# cd /directory
# rm -rf *
# cd ..;

:)

rgrds,
Calvin Lamer

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To: debian-userdebian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: perl question
Date: Thu, Jul 18, 2002, 4:53 AM


 Hello...

 Here's one for some of the perl guys

 I want to delete a directory that will have files in it...
 I don't know the name of the files there for wildcards might
 be needed

 I understand that rmdir will wipe out an empty directory
 and unlink will wipe out files (only if I know the names of the files)

 What would be a nice command to remove a dirtory that had files in it?
 Even better what would be a nice command to delete all files
 in one directory... (leaving the directory intact)

 Thanks
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Re: PINE

2001-07-17 Thread Calvin Chong
on 7/18/01 11:42 AM, Jeff Maxson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, dude wrote:
 
 
 I know PINE is not what debian users use,
 but i recently convinced my girlfriend to
 let me install debian on her windows computer.
 Her only gripe with using it is
 that there are no debs of Pine.
 
 She has tried building it from source
 downloaded from washington.edu
 but to no avail.
 
 Are there any debian-ized sources around
 
 or even debs being help somewhere?
 
 Thanks
 
 I use pine, and just downloaded the binary from washington's site.  I then
 renamed the huge filename to pine, stuck that file into a directory in
 my path, and it works fine.  (prbably not the *debian* way, but it works
 fine for my home computer...)

by the fine way, making a debian package isn't that hard after-all, right?