Re: Red Hat 5.1
On Wed, 03 Jun 1998 13:59:02 -0400, you wrote:
So Red Hat 5.1 (their second libc6 version) is out before Debian 2.0...
Not that there's a competition between Debian and Red Hat. Just a
comment...
(Not that *I'm* doing anything to further Debian progress, so I cannot
complain! I just wonder if that bugs developers a little)
Peter
It's common knowledge to *never* use a RedHat x.0 version, wait at least until
the x.1. The x.2 is probably fairly solid.
My guess is that Debian 2.0 is going to be more stable than RedHat 5.1, but
that is only from my experience with 4.{0,1,2}.
Dale
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Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:00:56 +0200 (CEST), you wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote: At my lab, after installing MS-Outlook as the `corporate EMail system', the Informatics guy send 200 users a document explaining that each user had a 20 MB mailbox limit and explained how to automatically delete `old' mail. His 1-page note was sent as a 1MB Word document filling up 5% of everyone's mailbox, using up a lot of ressources to send in 200 copies! Well, I can tell you that where I work (not for Philips actually, don't blame them.) 15,000 other people work. And yes, we do get sent word documents by the mass. The address list they use for that purpose is split on alphabet. The result is that the word document is not the biggest part, the header is: 300KB just for the letter k. Add to that the size of the body and multiply by 15,000 sigh This same thing happens here. If you send to a mailing list it adds everyone on that list to the To: line. Ugh. Last place I worked, we used cc:Mail. Our connection to our parent company was by a 14.4 modem. Some people would send huge (3Meg) power point things, or 3 line word documents with full color company logo bitmaps for letterhead. The real problem was that the phone line was shared with our fax machine and our dial up ISP. I considered those 2 hour messages as a denial of service attack and limited the size of received mail to 100k or so. I was about ready to write a program that would examine the cc:Mail logs and generate some kind of reply, containing some hints on proper mail conduct, but never got my roundtuit. Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multi-Boot
On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:54:57 +0100, you wrote: You can use bootpart: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gvollant/bootpart.htm It generates such chain loaders. Then the boot-sequence looks like: nt thingie bootpart lilo bootsector on your linux disk That's *EXACTLY* what I was looking for! It works great. Thanks! Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multi-Boot
On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:47:56 -0600, you wrote: So, you may indeed be able to do this. In any case you should be able to use the NT Boot Loader to start linux. This is in fact what I do. Set up LILO in your linux partition and have it write the boot block there. Eg., if your linux partition were on the third scsi disk in the first partition, a command to do this would be 'dd if=/dev/sdc1 bs=512 count=1 of=linuxboo.bin'. Then copy that boot block to a file and stick that file in your main NT partition. Now edit your c:\boot.ini file and add a line for Linux, ala 'C:\linuxboo.bin=Linux' (assuming you named the file linuxboo.bin). As long as your BIOS supports reading from the third drive this should work. I have read about this in one of the HOWTO's. This is a real pain for me because my NT partition is ntfs, and I can't use linux tools to copy the boot sector. Is there some way to make a chain loader of some kind? This would be a boot sector that the NT boot loader uses. It would boot whatever partition it points to. Then, whenever you re-compile a kernel, running lilo would update the linux partition boot sector. You would never have to touch the NT chain boot sector again, unless you are changing drives. Am I making any sense? Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hamm on CD
Greetings Debian Users Now that Hamm is frozen, I'm thinking I'd like to try it out. Are there any cd images available yet? I would *much* rather install from cd. We have a fairly quick net connection at work, and I can burn a cd there, while my home machine only has a 33.whaterver modem (on a good day). If I have to make my own cd image, can anyone point me to some instructions? Or tell me how they did it? Or what to watch out for? Thanks! Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NVidia Riva 128
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:03:30 -0500 (EST), you wrote: Was wondering if anyone has had experience with this card on Debian systems. I've (kinda-sorta) got the SuSE X server running, but things seem to be a bit weird and I was wondering if anyone on the list had already got it working perfectly, before I try and do all the legwork myself. What kind of weird? I recently installed the SuSE server with help from this list and have had no problems. Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Modem /dev/cua vs /dev/ttyS (The Long, True answer to this reappearing question)
On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 01:22:39 -0500 (EST), you wrote: No difference. If you try on the command line, it will not come back the second time (it seems to work the first time though..) Just try on your serial port.. % stty 115200 echoe -echo -clocal raw /dev/ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0 works % % stty 115200 echoe -echo -clocal raw /dev/ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0 will not return Just a guess, try it *without* redirecting stdout to /dev/ttyS0 . The stty command operates on file handle 0, not 1. Do you really want to output from stty to be fed to your modem (or whatever is hanging off the port)? Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Emacs Menu/Scrollbar Color
On Sun, 08 Feb 1998 11:53:08 +0100 (CET), you wrote: Hi all, I'd like to use GNU Emacs under X with a black background and white foreground. The problem is, this should be true of the menubar as well, but Xresources background foreground don't do the job. (It's possible, though: I saw a screenshot.) And can I set the scrollbar color separately? (This seems to be an unrelated problem: the aforementioned Xresources _do_ affect the scrollbar.) I couldn't find the relevant information in the man pages or info documents. Any ideas? This may help. At work I use emacs on solaris, and the menus had a funky stipple border instead of a cool motif-like shadow look. I started poking around with editres and found a few things. Then I poked around in the source to emacs to see how the resources were being used. I now have this is my .Xdefaults file: !Setting menu background turns off ugly stipple shadows. Emacs*XlwMenu*background: gray75 If debian has editres (or something better) try that to see what resources are availiable and experiment. Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Redirecting to a tcp port
Hi All, This isn't really a Debian question, so please forgive me if I am offending anyone. Is there a way to redirect standard out to a tcp port? Piping to telnet doesn't seem to work. This is probably a job for expect or something. Anyway, anyone have any ideas? Thanks! Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel Configurations
On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:09:13 -0400 (AST), you wrote: Hi, In my haste, I deleted the digest which brings up this question, however, within the last few days someone asked how to tell how a debian kernel is configured. In /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.xx (in my case 30 (soon to be 32)) there is a file named .config . In it are all the options specified when I ran make to configure it in the first place. Can this file be used with another kernel? Say I have the .config form 2.0.29, and I want to build 2.02.33 with the same options. Can I just cp the file to the new source directory? Do I have to run make config again and accept all the defaults? Thanks, Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
XSuSE NVidia X server and Debian
Greetings Debian Users, I am in the middle of installing Debian 1.3.1 from a cd I made from the image files. Unfortunately, my graphics card is a Diamond Viper V330, which has the NVidia Riva 128 chipset. The XF86 FAQ pointed me to the SuSE web site, where they are developing a driver. The install is basically untaring the server and xf86config binaries from /. My question is how will this interact with Debian's idea of who/what/where my x-server is? Has anyone used this (or other) server from SuSE? What problems did you have? Thanks! Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian learning curve
On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:58:21 -0600, you wrote: 1) Recently someone said regarding all the setup differences: after all, linux is linux. I disagree, the networking files, setup files, PPP files, etc... are all notably different; similar but different. This is like the differences between ATT/UCB unix. Yes, they are/were both Unix, but... I wonder why it is necessary/useful to have so many differences in the linux variations. Every distribution wants to do it the Right Way, so of course they are all different. :) Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XSuSE NVidia X server and Debian
On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:57:45 -0500, you wrote: I untarred to /tmp, them copied over the files. Be CAREFUL -- otherwise you will overwrite /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards and /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config -- both of which yu need to configure XFree86. I made a Cards.deb and Cards.suse and symlinked the one I wanted to Cards. I switch back and forth between servers. I made the xf86config xf86config.suse. Otherwise it puts everything in debian dirs. XF86Config is stored in /etc -- no way around that. Encouraged by the responses in this group, (and carefully looking at the .tgz files) I went ahead and untarred them. I ran the supplied xf86config and guessed at my monitor setting. Then I editied the Xserver file to point the new server. Works great! Now to fine tune for my monitor (after I find out what kind it is). Thanks! Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
