Re: DHCP weirdness? broken?
On 11-02-03 5:19 AM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: Hi, I am having serious troubles with dhcp. The resolv.conf file is being continuosly overwritten by some program/daemon I can't guess. I tried the supersede/prepend directives in dhclient.conf with no success, the same with the dhclient-script hooks I tried using network-manager connections to get rid of dhcp client settings. I have removed dhcp* packages and reinstalled again from scratch and as a result the /etc/dhcp3/ directory is not there anymore. I really can't figure out what to do. Any suggestion? Best regards Raffaele I had that same problem a few years ago. I can't remember what package caused the problem, but I do remember that there wasn't some obscure configuration option to change, I just had to remove a package. Maybe it was resolvconf? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d4ac488.7030...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: DHCP weirdness? broken?
On 11-02-03 5:19 AM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: Hi, I am having serious troubles with dhcp. The resolv.conf file is being continuosly overwritten by some program/daemon I can't guess. I tried the supersede/prepend directives in dhclient.conf with no success, the same with the dhclient-script hooks I tried using network-manager connections to get rid of dhcp client settings. I have removed dhcp* packages and reinstalled again from scratch and as a result the /etc/dhcp3/ directory is not there anymore. I really can't figure out what to do. Any suggestion? Best regards Raffaele -- /L'unica speranza di catarsi, ammesso che ne esista una, resta affidata all'istinto di ribellione, alla rivolta non isterilita in progetti, alla protesta violenta e viscerale./ Me again. Do you have dhcpc installed? If so, try setting SET_DNS='no' in the config file. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d4ac693.2030...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: Can't reboot after power failure (RAID problem?)
On 11-01-31 8:47 PM, Andrew Reid wrote: The easy way out is to boot from a rescue disk, fix the mdadm.conf file, rebuild the initramfs, and reboot. The Real Sysadmin way is to start the array by hand from inside the initramfs. You want mdadm -A /dev/md0 (or possibly mdadm -A -uyour-uuid) to start it, and once it's up, ctrl-d out of the initramfs and hope. The part I don't remember is whether or not this creates the symlinks in /dev/disk that your root-fs-finder is looking for. All's well. After the Real Sysadmin way got me into the system one-time-only, I could do the easy way which is more permanent without needing a rescue disk. Thank you so much. I have one more question, just out of curiousity so bottom priority. Why does this work? mdadm.conf is in the initramfs which is in /boot which is on /dev/md0, but /dev/md0 doesn't exist until the arrays are assembled, which requires mdadm.conf. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d49816b.1040...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: Can't reboot after power failure (RAID problem?)
On 11-01-31 8:47 PM, Andrew Reid wrote: On Monday 31 January 2011 10:51:04 dav...@alcor.concordia.ca wrote: I posted in a panic and left out a lot of details. I'm using Squeeze, and set up the system about a month ago, so there have been some upgrades. I wonder if maybe the kernel or Grub was upgraded and I neglected to install Grub again, but I would expect it to automatically be reinstalled on at least the first disk. If I remove either disk I get the same error message. I did look at /proc/cmdline. It shows the same uuid for the root device as in the menu, so that seems to prove it's an MD device that isn't ready since my boot and root partitions are each on MD devices. /proc/modules does show md_mod. What about the actual device? Does /dev/md/0 (or /dev/md0, or whatever) exist? If the module is loaded but the device does not exist, then it's possible there's a problem with your mdadm.conf file, and the initramfs doesn't have the array info in it, so it wasn't started. The easy way out is to boot from a rescue disk, fix the mdadm.conf file, rebuild the initramfs, and reboot. The Real Sysadmin way is to start the array by hand from inside the initramfs. You want mdadm -A /dev/md0 (or possibly mdadm -A -uyour-uuid) to start it, and once it's up, ctrl-d out of the initramfs and hope. The part I don't remember is whether or not this creates the symlinks in /dev/disk that your root-fs-finder is looking for. It may be better to boot with break=premount to get into the initramfs in a more controlled state, instead of trying to fix it in the already-error-ed state, assuming you try the initramfs thing at all. And further assuming that the mdadm.conf file is the problem, which was pretty much guesswork on my part... -- A. I found the problem. You're right, mdadm.conf was the problem, which is amazing considering that I had previously restarted without changing mdadm.conf. I edited it in the initramfs, then did mdadm -A /dev/md0 as you suggested and control-d worked. I assume I'll still have to rebuild the initramfs; I might need handholding, but I'll google first. I think what went wrong might interest some people, since it answers a question I previously raised under the subject RAID1 with multiple partitions There was no concensus so I made the wrong choice. The cause of the problem is, I set up my system under a temporary hostname and then changed the hostname. The hostname appeared at the end of each ARRAY line in mdadm.conf, and I didn't know whether I should change it there because I didn't know if whether it has to match the current hostname in the current /etc/host, has to match the current hostname, or is just a meaningless label. I changed it to the new hostname at the same time that I changed the hostname, then shut down and restarted. It booted fine. I did the same thing on another computer, and I'm sure I restarted that one successfully several times. So, I foolishly thought I was safe. After the power failure it wouldn't boot. After following your advice I was sufficiently inspired to edit mdadm.conf back to the original hostname, mount my various md's, and control-d. I assume I'll have to do that every time I boot until I rebuild the initramfs. Thank you very much. I'd already recovered everything from a backup, but I needed to find the solution or I'd be afraid to raid in future. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d4828e7.9030...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions
On 10-12-16 3:13 AM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, David Gaudine dav...@alcor.concordia.ca wrote: The temporary hostname is in each ARRAY line in mdadm.conf. I've never seen a hostname value on the ARRAY line in mdadm.conf. Are you confusing hostname and array name? The array name is based on the hostname. ARRAY /dev/md/0 metadata=1.2 UUID=ca74958e:22f7fbfc:05211e6a:b4750387 name=gradstudies2:0 I later went ahead and changed the hostname and the corresponding part of the array name and it booted. Then I changed them back. But wait... I forgot to change the array name back! The above line is from a host that was initially called gradstudies4, then gradstudies2, now back to gradstudies4, and it works. So apparently it doesn't matter. I guess it's the name on the HOMEHOST line that has to match what's in the superblock, and since the default is system... well, system means the local system, and I don't know if that's taken from the superblock or /etc/hostname. But it works. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0a3cf6.4050...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions
On 10-12-10 10:22 PM, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:57 PM, David Gaudine dav...@alcor.concordia.ca wrote: grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sdb grub-install /dev/sda grub-install /dev/sdb --root-directory=/boot will have installed grub in /boot/boot/grub. That's it! Thank you! I didn't report back sooner because I've been testing, testing, testing. I have one last raid-related question. I'm going to have to rename this computer, because it's a replacement for another computer (running Linux for 7 years without a hitch, time to retire) so I'll shut down the old computer and give the new one its hostname and IP address. I've done this before, so I do know I have to update /etc/hostname, /etc/interfaces, my exim configuration, etc. Only the part about RAID is new to me. The temporary hostname is in each ARRAY line in mdadm.conf. As I understand it, the temporary hostname is also in the superblock, and these must match or I won't be able to boot. So, do I have to do something about the superblock (how?), or just edit the name in the ARRAY lines, or not touch it at all? I'm afraid to experiment because my last encounter with rescue mode (trying to fix my grub-install mess) didn't go very well. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d08f3fd.4060...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions
On 10-12-15 11:59 AM, David Gaudine wrote: The temporary hostname is in each ARRAY line in mdadm.conf. As I understand it, the temporary hostname is also in the superblock, and these must match or I won't be able to boot. So, do I have to do something about the superblock (how?), or just edit the name in the ARRAY lines, or not touch it at all? I'm afraid to experiment because my last encounter with rescue mode (trying to fix my grub-install mess) didn't go very well. Sorry to answer my own question, but a power failure caused a corrupted filesystem on another computer and gave me a free IP to experiment with. So, I went ahead and renamed my computer. I did edit the name in mdadm.conf, and the system booted without problems. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0915e5.1000...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions
On 15/12/2010 9:57 PM, Doug wrote: On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, David Gaudine wrote: Sorry to answer my own question, but a power failure caused a corrupted filesystem on another computer and gave me a free IP to experiment with. So, I went ahead and renamed my computer. I did edit the name in mdadm.conf, and the system booted without problems. What might that file be called in another Linux? It doesn't seem to exist in PCLOS. --doug I don't know anything about pclinuxos/PCLOS. I looked at www.pclinuxos.com/forum and mdadm.conf is mentioned. Are you using RAID? If not then the file is probably in a package that's not installed. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d098a74.8010...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On 10-12-10 8:04 AM, Wolodja Wentland wrote: Upgrading between releases is typically not just a simple apt-get/aptitude upgrade (dist-,full-) run. The upgrade process and things you have to consider when you upgrade are documented in the release notes and it is a good idea to follow them, as there might be substantial changes to the system that have to be taken care of. When I upgraded from Etch to Lenny used those names explicitly in sources.list so the upgrade happened at a time of my choosing when I had time to fix any problems. But, I didn't read the release notes. I ended up with a broken exim configuration, and a warning message that was something like It appears that you upgraded without following the release notes, here's what you should have done. I couldn't figure out how to fix the configuration, but fortunately removing and reinstalling exim solved the problem. Next time I think I'll read the release notes. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d023f73.7070...@alcor.concordia.ca
RAID1 with multiple partitions
I'm trying to use RAID 1 for the first time. I've gone ahead and set up a system to test, using primarily these two guides: http://mikeoverip.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/debian-5-lenny-step-by-step-installation-with-software-raid-1-with-screenshots/ http://dev.jerryweb.org/raid/ My system looks like this: - Squeeze - 2 drives - 4 physical partitions for RAID on each disk, thus 4 MD arrays ( /boot, swap, /, /home ) /boot is EXT2,/ and /home are EXT3. The system works, but I still have some questions about whether what I've already done is OK. 1) Is it OK to use 4 MD arrays like this, or should I use just one and LVM like the jerryweb link? I got a bit confused reading about LVM and I don't need anything fancy like being able to resize partitions. 2) I put the SWAP partition on RAID. The first guide doesn't use RAID for swap. The author emailed me his comments about the pros and cons, and I think I want it on RAID for peace of mind. It shouldn't really matter since I have much more RAM than I need. Is there any reason I might regret putting SWAP on RAID? cat /proc/mdstat reports the MD1 (the swap device) as auto-read-only. 3) The first guide doesn't use a separate boot partion, the second does. Comments? I've never used a separate boot partition. I think it used to be important on large disks, to keep the kernel in the first 1024 cylinders, but isn't important anymore. 4) The first guide shows how to install Grub on both disks. After that's done once, do I have to do it again whenever there's a new kernel package? Or in any other situation that I have to watch out for? 5) Besides question 4, is there any foreseeable problem that could leave me with an unbootable system? Like, in the past have RAID systems broken when upgraded from Etch to Lenny or Lenny to Squeeze? 6) I have lots of questions about disaster recovery, but can anyone recommend something I should read about that so I don't have to bug you with too many questions? The installation went entirely smoothly. The initial sync of MD3 (/root) is happening now. It's taking much longer than the installation. That surprises me, but if that's the biggest surprise I got from my first attempt at RAID the beta2 installer must be pretty good. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d028a68.8080...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions
On 10-12-10 3:50 PM, Reiner Buehl wrote: On 10.12.2010 21:15, David Gaudine wrote: 2) I put the SWAP partition on RAID. The first guide doesn't use RAID for swap. The author emailed me his comments about the pros and cons, and I think I want it on RAID for peace of mind. It shouldn't really matter since I have much more RAM than I need. Is there any reason I might regret putting SWAP on RAID? cat /proc/mdstat reports the MD1 (the swap device) as auto-read-only. In Linux, all raid arrays stay in auto-read-only mode until they are access the first time after each reboot, so this seems to imply that your system has not yet initialized the swap. Did you add your swap to /etc/fstab and mark it as swap there? Usually the installer does that for me. I can't say if that happened this time, because I played with Grub and now I can't boot. 4) The first guide shows how to install Grub on both disks. After that's done once, do I have to do it again whenever there's a new kernel package? Or in any other situation that I have to watch out for? You only need to install grub on both disks once. After that, there is no need to repeat that again unless you upgrade grub itself. Here I have a big problem. The guide said to run grub and do root(hd0,0) setup(hd0) and repeat for the other disk. I don't have an executable file grub. grub-pc is installed. After a bit of reading I tried this: grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sdb Not a good idea. Now the system boots into a Grub command prompt, but root(hd0,0) says no such partition. I tried other values besides zero, but always get no such partition, File system is unknown, or Cannot get C/H/S Values. Where did I go wrong? Is grub in some package other than grub-pc, or is the method different now with grub2? If you can tell me how to do it right I can probably save my installation by using rescue mode, but that's not important since I can reinstall if necessary. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d02b045.4090...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions
On 10/12/2010 8:11 PM, Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 05:57:09PM -0500, David Gaudine wrote: Here I have a big problem. The guide said to run grub and do root(hd0,0) setup(hd0) and repeat for the other disk. I don't have an executable file grub. grub-pc is installed. After a bit of reading I tried this: Are you trying it as root? I assume you mean the part about root(hd0,0), not the part later that you snipped. I did try it as root. The first problem is, on this and on my working Squeeze system I don't have an executable file called Grub, although I do have grub-install. When I boot it boots directly to grub, but root(hd0,0) (or any other values instead of the zeros) gives an error. With a system set up using the Squeeze beta2 installer, should I be running grub or grub-install? It seems that the command that clobbered my system was grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda I tried that again in rescue mode, with the same effect; a message that the command was successful, but an unbootable system. My first mistake was I didn't reboot after installing Squeeze and before trying to install Grub, so I don't even know if the installer left me with a bootable system that I then messed up or if the system was never bootable. I'll be away for a couple of days but then I'll reinstall. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d02e21d.5020...@alcor.concordia.ca
Upgrading postgresql-8.0 to 8.1
I use postgresql 8.0, but since this is local/obsolete in Etch I want to upgrade to 8.1. I've already done this on a backup system, but I got a few warnings so I want to make sure I'm doing it right before I do it on my main system. Here's what I did that seemed to work but gave some of warnings; - Install postgresql-8.1 and packages that it depends on - Stop the 8.1 server (I don't remember if I stopped the 8.0 server) - pg_dropcluster 8.1 main - pg_upgradecluster 8.1 main - start the 8.1 server Is there a better way? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading postgresql-8.0 to 8.1 (correction)
Sorry, that's pg_upgradecluster 8.0 main, not 8.1 David Gaudine wrote: I use postgresql 8.0, but since this is local/obsolete in Etch I want to upgrade to 8.1. I've already done this on a backup system, but I got a few warnings so I want to make sure I'm doing it right before I do it on my main system. Here's what I did that seemed to work but gave some of warnings; - Install postgresql-8.1 and packages that it depends on - Stop the 8.1 server (I don't remember if I stopped the 8.0 server) - pg_dropcluster 8.1 main - pg_upgradecluster 8.0 main (corrected line) - start the 8.1 server Is there a better way? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hardware RAID, software RAID, 3ware 9550SX, level 1 vs. level 5
I have to set up a system that is totally reliable w.r.t. data integrity. That is, if a disk (or anything else) fails, it's OK if the system is down for a few hours, but when it comes back up it has to be exactly as it was, i.e. I can't restore from the previous day's backup. The obvious solution is to use RAID level 1. Questions; - Is level 1 as reliable as level 5? My understanding is that level 5 has better performance than level 1, but comparable reliability (maybe a bit less, since disaster occurs if 2 out of 3 disks go bad at the same time.) - I need to use RAID for everything, not just some partitions, so the root has to use RAID. I've found lots of websites that describe doing that with software (mdadm), but very little about hardware. Using software is cheap and seems to be simple, but I assume hardware gives better performance. Is the performance difference significant? If not, I guess my further questions don't matter. But I'd rather spend money than give up performance. - Many/most modern motherboards claim to support RAID. Are any of them useful, or do they all just provide a BIOS that fakes it well enough for Windows but not for Linux? - The 3ware 9550SX looks good, and there's even a Sarge install: http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=14860 Has anyone tried the installer? I can't unless I buy the card (and a computer to put it in) first. I don't know whether it will do the whole job of allowing me to properly set up everyting on RAID at installation time, although that seems like the point of having it in an ISO instead of just having a driver module. - Any other ideas about a RAID board that's supported by a Sarge install or for which there are step-by-step instructions how now to install Sarge and then move it to RAID as is frequently done for mdadm? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list
I know that this is not recommended. But I often set up Debian machines for friends who have virtually no clue whatsoever and no intentions of changing this. The machines are obviously not very important but I want to provide at least a minimal level of security because if I do not it will be sooner that I have to spend time and efforts in fixing their broken-into boxes. I do it too, but I set it up to mail the output to me so I can check that there were no errors. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list
and if ththeresroblem with MTMTApgrade ?:) True, now and then I have to count the subject lines to make sure all systems are accounted for. But it's still better than logging in to all the systems every day. I've been doing it on about 10 systems for about 2 years, and haven't had a lot of trouble; indeed once my mail servers went down for a few hours for that reason, but my mail servers are always looking for an excuse to go down. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Letter to TigerDirect
On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 10:46 AM, Kent West wrote: I've done business with TigerDirect in the past, but recently they've added a pro-MS banner to their home page. I wrote this note to them, and would encourage other Debianistas who have done business with them to make your feelings known to them also. Note, I realize many (most?) of you aren't anti-Microsoft (unlike myself), but are rather pro-Debian, but the banner just seems -- wrong, somehow, for freedom-loving folks. I'm probably over-reacting (and hopefully this message won't get me in a bunch of killfiles), but it just seems like I should make you folks aware of this. I interpret it as being aimed at Windows users, encouraging them to spend extra for Windows XP instead of copying some old version of Windows from a friend. As a Debian user I don't care what version of Windows they recommend. If they recommended Redhat, then I'd be annoyed. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to login as ROOT as start
On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 11:33 AM, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi folks, How can I login as ROOT after booting at 'Desktop Manager popup. I am only allowed to login as USER both KDE and GNOME. Although the person who said you shouldn't is probably right, with Gnome try (at the login screen) system/configure, enter the root password, then the security tab. David (ironic that I found a gnome question that I can answer when I still haven't found the desktop.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome in sarge; is there a default desktop?
I'm trying to use gnome in Sarge. I've never used gnome before, so I don't know what to expect, but I don't think I'm getting what I should. I selected gdm as the default window manager. I get the login screen. After I log in, I get a blank screen, but the mouse buttons let me access a menu; it looks like the default twm menu, but ps ax doesn't show twm running. I was expecting a desktop. The gnome user guide says to select Gnome Desktop from Session in the login screen, but there is no such option in the list; the Session menu has Gnome, Gnome Chooser, Debian, Xsession, and a couple of failsafes. Is there supposed to be a desktop by default? If not, is there something simple to do to enable it? I'm looking through the documentation, but I'm not doing very well. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome in sarge; is there a default desktop?
On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 11:09 AM, David Gaudine wrote: Is there supposed to be a desktop by default? If not, is there something simple to do to enable it? I'm looking through the documentation, but I'm not doing very well. (Replying to myself) I received a suggestion by private email to install gnome-desktop-environment. There doesn't seem to be such a package in sarge, at least not at the moment. That could be the problem right there, or it could just be that gnome is packaged differently in Sarge. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sqwebmail
I'm having trouble with sqwebmail. I'm using sarge, but a quick attempt on a Woody system seemed the same. I followed the instructions in README.Debian; -copied /usr/lib/courier/sqwebmail/html to /home/mywebmail (I used cp -a, so the directory en-us and the link us were copied) - Added SetEnv SQWEBMAIL_TEMPLATEDIR /home/mywebmail to httpd.conf Apache wouldn't accept the SetEnv, so I uncommented the line in httpd.conf that loads mod_env. Now, if I go to http://systemname/cgi-bin/sqwebmail it works, but isn't the SetEnv supposed to make http://systemname/sqwebmail work? the longer url works with or without the SetEnv. I put the SetEnv line at the end of httpd.conf, was it supposed to go somewhere else? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge net.iso
- Original Message - Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Because of previous posts that the stable sarge netiso was not booting I downloaded the 11/15 version on Sunday. Very fast server: could do it easy on my 56kb line. It boots. I'm not sure what you mean by stable sarge, but I'm one of the people who couldn't boot the 11/9 version. I downloaded the 11/18 version today and I can boot it. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Sarge Netinst CD
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 08:25 PM, David Gaudine wrote: Has anyone tried making and booting to a CD using http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/sarge-i386-netinst-iso ? I forgot to specify that I mean the one that's dated Nov 9. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Sarge Netinst CD
On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 10:42 AM, Greg Madden wrote: http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/sarge-i386- netinst.iso This one works here, it is dated Nov 9. Thanks. That's the one I used (I mistyped the link). Strange. As a test of my CD burning, and in a classic waste of bandwidth, I burned the unofficial full CD from the Hungary site. It worked. Then I tried and failed again with the netinst CD. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Booting Sarge Netinst CD
Has anyone tried making and booting to a CD using http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/sarge-i386-netinst-iso ? I get a CD that looks good when I browse it, but that won't boot. I burned it on the same system and with the same software that I used to burn my 3.0R1 CD, and tried it on systems that I've used bootable CDs with before. Did anyone get a bootable CD from this image? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: courier-imap setup - can't authenticate and maildir Q
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 03:56 PM, Carlos Sousa wrote: Besides, an imap server doesn't really work with an MTA. It just sits on top of a few directories and distributes mail to connecting clients according to a configured set of rules. So go ahead and use sendmail and courier-imap, no reason it shouldn't work, especially because none of them has to be aware of the other. The reason I'm concerned is that courier-imap uses the Maildir format (it may also work with /var/spool/mail, but if so that defeats my purpose in considering it.) Does Sendmail allow that format? I didn't see any sign of it, but I've missed things before. Meanwhile I've gone ahead and started using Exim, at least for now. For those who don't know what we're talking about, Maildir format uses a separate file for each message, instead of one huge file. It probably wastes a lot of disk space that way (since a file has to be a multiple of a certain number of bytes), but it has advantages, comparable (I'd say) to a linked list vs an array. I was a bit worried about backing up thousands of tiny files, but I suppose that incremental backups will be fast that way. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing sarge with nforce2
Philippe Makowski wrote: is the official installation cd of sarge (http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/) working with a nforce2 chipstet motherboard (especially networking adaptator) ? is there a success story ? I haven't had any luck with the network adapters. However, I'm sure you'll be able to install. The original Woody install CD wouldn't boot with my A7N8X, but the R1 CD does, and I had no trouble upgrading, so hopefully netinst will work. For agp, I had to go from woody to sid (I skipped Sarge by mistake, I forgot that the next step up from stable isn't unstable). But I think the xfree from Sarge should be OK, if not that can be upgraded easily enough. But still no network, at least I couldn't get it to work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: courier-imap setup - can't authenticate and maildir Q
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 05:38 PM, Micha Feigin wrote: Also the setup file says that courier only handles maildirs. I currently have exim installed for smtp. I uncommented the option for maildirs in the config file and converted the mbox into a maildir with the same name in the same location. Is that the right thing to do? The only option I see for maildirs in the config file is for handling aliases and .forward. My incoming mail goes to /var/spool/mail/david and isn't seen by the imap client, and the maildirs option in the config file doesn't affect that. I was about to ask about that myself. Where is incoming mail supposed to go with exim/courier, and how can I get it there? My sent mail is fine, it sits in a maildir and the client can read it. Another question. I want to switch from wu-imap to courier-imap for efficiency. This seems to require switching from sendmail to exim, so I did, but reluctantly since everyone else here uses sendmail. Is it true that there's no way to use sendmail with courier-imap and maildirs? David (using another server of course) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: courier-imap setup - can't authenticate and maildir Q
On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 10:39 AM, David Gaudine wrote:
The only option I see for maildirs in the config file is for handling
aliases and .forward. My incoming mail goes to /var/spool/mail/david
and isn't seen by the imap client, and the maildirs option in the
config file doesn't affect that. I was about to ask about that myself.
Update on that: I was looking at /usr/doc/exim on a system that had
exim installed but didn't have exim-doc installed, so the file
spec.txt was missing. After a look at that file, I've changed
exim.conf to have these two lines instead of the file = line
in the local_delivery section:
maildir_format
directory = /home/${local_part}/Maildir
It doesn't work, now I can't find my messages at all.
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Re: courier-imap setup - can't authenticate and maildir Q
On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 12:00 PM, Micha Feigin wrote: Exim's default configuration needs to be changed though in order to support maildirs, and you need to either create one (don't remember the command) you send yourself an email to create it. From the courier-base README.Debian: Just run as the email user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# maildirmake Maildir For good directions on setting up courier-imap-ssl and exim: http://talk.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/exim_maildir_imap.shtml Sounds great. I can't connect to it at the moment, but I'll keep trying. It certainly sounds worth reading. My earlier attempt at ssl didn't work, so now I'm going to concentrate on getting courier-imap and sqwebmail working, then I'll worry about SSL. Meanwhile, my mail has magically started to appear in my inbox, a couple of hours after I last changed exim.conf. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, at 10:35 AM, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: Yup, the way I do this with KMail is to add a filter that checks if my domain is in the References-header and puts it in a special folder if it is. There's an idea. I'll try it. Although personally I'd still rather receive the message in my debian-user folder and a CC in my inbox. I suppose I can use a rule to duplicate the message if it's to debian-user with me as a reference. I'm not too handy with procmail but I can probably get by. Anything starting with :0: c (work on a copy) doesn't seem to work on my server. I'm surprised that so many people don't like CCs. When I send a message, I want to know if somebody replies. Without a CC (or the above) I won't get the reply until the next time I check the list, and then only if read every message on the list or remember which subject lines I've been following lately. One person mentioned that he doesn't like to reply to the CC and then find out that the message was also on the list; I agree, but I usually remember to look at the headers to see if it's a CC. Note: I replied to Kjetil's message by reply all, deleting the contents of the to and cc fields, and typing the list address. Which sort of answers Monique's original question. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
Steve Lamb wrote: Also there are other problems with the CC approach. Take, for example, a conversation between 20 people on the same topic (much like this one) all whacking reply-to-all. Ok, fine, why have the mailing list software at all? By the time that 20th person hits reply-to-all he's sending out 20 copies of the message (1 to the list, 19 to the other participants). It is a major duplication of effort. I wouldn't use reply to all, I'd just CC the one person. But indeed, for those who have to choose between reply and Reply to all and don't want to adjust things manually, that problem is there. I mentioned earlier that I'd try filtering on References. That didn't work, and basically gave the same problem that you mention; I see the messages of everyone who replies to a reply to a reply of my message. However, there seems to be an In-Reply-To header that's more useful, so far it seems to have only the most recent reference. What all of this seems to mean is, yes, it's possible to have a situation where everyone just clicks Reply and people who want to see copies in their inbox get them and other people don't. But it's not automatic, people have to actually know they're supposed to do it that way and then figure out how to do it. Darned, almost forgot to change the To: to send the message to the list. I've taken care of the receiving end of it, got to work on sending. David (using a PC this time, didn't plan it that way, just how it worked out.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin+evolution
On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 12:39 PM, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I searched on size in their FAQ and found nothing ... furthermore, the INSTALL documentation shows an example procmail rule that contains no size limit. It may be the case that sa takes a while to process a large message, but I doubt that it can't handle it. That's it. It's somewhere in the documentation, along with a comment that really large messages usually aren't spam anyway so you wouldn't gain much by letting SA look at them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 01:34 PM, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I believe I have the Mail-Followup-To header set on my outgoing messages, which should be a clue for some readers. (I was told that gmane would translate Mail-Copies-To to Mail-Followup-To automagically.) With this mail program (the default Mac mail program, which I've not used much), when I click reply it's your address that gets used. I manually changed it in my earlier followup (surely you didn't get a CC of that.) I don't know if it's because of your headers, the list, or with this mail program. Regardless, the clue is not there. I expect that some people like CCs so that they can see responses to their own messages immediately and file away the rest for later, and assume that everyone shares their preference. But your sig does seem clear enough. This is exactly the kind of message that I would be tempted to send to the individual and not the list, since it doesn't mention Linux anywhere, but I couldn't resist your Pretty please. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fresh install of Woody on Asus A7N8X (NFORCE2)
Has anyone done a fresh install of Woody on an ASUS A7N8X? If so, did you have to make your own installation diskette, and what kernel did you use? I've followed the instructions in the installation guide to put my own kernel on the rescue disk, but I can't mount the driver disk image to put my own modules. (I'm not sure if this is a problem, I don't have the system yet so I don't know what will happen if I have an invalid driver disk but all the drivers are compiled in anyway.) I see that 2.4.21 and 2.5.70 both support the NFORCE IDE, but what about the NVIDIA and 3COM network interfaces? There's a patch for this on the nvidia web site, but it was intended for an earlier 2.4 kernel and I don't think it allows not using modules. I'm tempted to put an ne2k card in for now. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux enigma
Linux enigma: I recently tried to install SuSE linux on a workstation that does not boot from CDROM. There is a suse utility that writes installation files to a windows HD but alas suse could not install and put on Debian. HOWEVER! the suse installation utility created several directories that I cannot remove. In the windows partition of this machine, I have a linux directory where suse created a suse directory and a setup directory therein (windows/linux/suse/setup - when viewed from the now installed debian partition). Inside of the setup directory is an entity called '/linux' that I have tried to delete with rm and rmdir and get an error message: rm: cannot remove '/linux': No such file or directory rmdir: '/linux': No such file or directory I'm really confused. Why is this /linux and not /windows/linux/suse/setup/linux since you said you see the full name of the setup file from debian? when I try to access this entity with Midnight Commander (my trusted friend from MSDOS days) I get the following message File '/linux' exists but can not be stat-ed: No such file or directory. OK, so /linux does exist, is it a hard/soft link? Possibly a broken soft link? But then rm should work. What am I missing? What exactly is /linux? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh and X---where do I switch the remote to X-listen
I'm trying to get X and cygwin working so that I can ssh into the home machine from my notebook. I originally set my Linux box to no-listen. Like some kind of idiot, I cannot find where I put the switch.:) Will some kind soul please let me know where to look so I can hit the FM? Here are a couple of possible locations, there are probably others. /etc/X11/xinit /etc/X11/Xdm/Xservers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh and X---where do I switch the remote to X-listen
Here is a link to a pdf file that contains everything I know about running remote X clients with and without ssh, and with and without xdm. Since it contains everything I know, it's a very short download. http://annette.concordia.ca/~david/X.pdf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting MS Word to postscript
I have tried printing to file from the Windows box, and it ouputs a .prn file, which is apparently of type: steve@gashuffer:~$ file Resume.prn Resume.prn: HP Printer Job Language data I'm more interested in what's in the file, rather than what file thinks. I don't have a postscript driver installed right now for my HP, I'm using the PCL driver. As I recall, when I use the postscript driver the file has a couple of HP-specific lines in it to kick the printer into postscript mode, followed by the postscript. If you're in fact using a postscript driver, you probably only have to remove a couple of lines from the beginning. Perhaps you should show us the first 5 lines of the file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting MS Word to postscript
If you save the file for Word as an RTF, it's alot easier for any other word processor or conversion program like unrtf to read it. I tried that a couple of days ago. I lost all my figures and most of my formatting. - David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: URGENT - How to shutdown Debian 3? - URGENT
I did try that and it worked perfectly Then it's kind of late for me to comment. But that never stopped me before, so... No it does not work, first when I choose GNOME session and do ctrl+alt+del nothing happens, then when I log to KDE session and do ctrl+alt+del I get system guard! ctrl+alt+del doesn't work (at least by default) in X, you have to either use ctrl+alt+backspace first (which works if you use startx, but not for xdm and probably not for GNOME or KDE) or switch to a virtual console before using ctrl+alt+del. -David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thread Stealing (was: Installing debian via network)
Bob Hilliard writes: But most Windows mailers make you read mail on-line, which is an abomination. Outlook Express requires me to go online to download messages or to upload replies. It does not require me to be online while reading or composing. Neither does Eudora, as I recall. What Windows mailers are you referring to? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spam that's good for a laugh for Debian users
I got this spam today complimenting me on my web site: I visited annette.concordia.ca today and have the following comments. Your Images and Icons are creative and interesting. The content is informative and precise. ... As much as this warms my heart, I can't take credit for the design of this page, which begins This is a placeholder page installed by the Debian release of the Apache Web server package I thought some Debian users might get a laugh out of this compliment to the Apache maintainer. Creative and interesting... informative and precise, right out of the box. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I start a X session on another machine
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Andrew Lindley wrote: I went for option 2 - ssh. I can ssh between the 2 hosts but the $DISPLAY variable does not get set on the server machine. I have ssh_config on both sides defaulting to ForwardX11=yes and can see the x11_get_proto line if I give ssh the -vv option. So I have a situation where I can ssh for command line but no X support. Any ideas? This message is 3 days old, so there may have been answers that I missed, but here goes. I had the same problem. I found many references that say you have to default ForwardX11=yes in ssh_config. What most references don't seem to mention is, you also have to default X11Forwarding to yes in sshd_config on the other system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xdm: getting back to chooser with ctl-alt-backspace
I have this line in inittab: 7:5:respawn:/usr/X11/R6/bin/X -indirect daisy I have these lines in Xaccess on the same system: daisy daisy CHOOSER dewey daisy huey The system has xdm installed, but I changed Xservers to not put a prompt on the local system. This basically works, I can log in to the local system or to my choice of two other systems. But, there are two problems. First, if I exit X using ctl-alt-backspace, I get back to the login prompt for the system that I previously chose. If I exit X by using Yes, really exit from the twm menu, I get back to the chooser. How can I make ctl-alt-backspace get me back to the chooser? This is important because other people may use this system and may find themselves with login prompts to systems that they don't have accounts on. Second, I don't want daisy to make an indirect query to itself, I want it to make an indirect query to dewey. I changed the Xaccess file on dewey in the same way. Then, when I make the indirect query to dewey, I get the menu of all three systems, but for dewey and huey it says that I'm not authorized to use those systems. That seems strange considering that I can use those systems if the indirect query is handled by my local system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using Linux system as an X terminal
I changed one of my systems to act as an X terminal by changing one line of /etc/initab and adding another line as follows: id:5:initdefault: 7:5:respawn:/usr/X11R6/bin/X -query systemname This seems to work. Is there anything wrong with doing it this way? Is it appropriate to use run level 5? Is there a list somewhere telling the difference between run levels 2, 3, 4, or 5? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X -query hostname
I use xdm, and I want other systems to be able to use X -query hostname to act as terminals connected to my system. When they try, they get a blank X screen and no login prompt. I don't know whether they're successfully connecting and not getting the prompt, or not connecting at all. On my system, I made only these two changes; /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess I put the name of each terminal on a line by itself /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config I commented out this line: DisplayManager.requestPort: 0 What else do I have to do? Is there a HOWTO that I missed that covers this exactly? Once I get this working, I want to change at least one of the terminals so that it permanently acts like a terminal, i.e. so that the user doesn't have to use X -query, the login prompt appears immediately after booting. I expect to have to change /etc/inittab (maybe just change the default runlevel and then go into rc#.d), but I have no idea where to go from there. Any hints to get me started? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME installation screw-up
I just installed Gnome today, without having any clue what I was doing. I put exec gnome-session in the .xsession file, copying what Matthew said. (I suppose copying someone who's having problems may not be the best thing to do, but what the heck.) My .xsession-errors tells me gnome-session not found, and indeed there's no such thing on my system. I did install all of the non-developmental Gnome-related packages. dpkg -S gnome-session tells me not found, though I can't find the -S switch on the dpkg man page so I may be confused about that too. - Original Message - From: Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Userslist debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 10:14 AM Subject: Re: GNOME installation screw-up MMD == Matthew Myers Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MMD a) why X won't start as root (the account with exec MMD gnome-session in the .xsession file) Check ~/.xsession-errors for clues about why it didn't start properly.
undefined symbol: _fxstat when using NAG FORTRAN with potato (only)
I have an application that runs fine on hamm and slink, but on potato it says undefined symbol: _fstat The application was compiled with NAG FORTRAN 95, and the symbol is referenced by a shared library that was provided with the compiler. I've verified that _fstat is a system routine of some sort, not a NAG routine. Does anyone know more specifically where it comes from, and in what way it has changed between slink and potato? (If indeed it has changed; I may just not be able to link with it.) After looking at some web pages that are way over my head, all I could determine is that it has something to do with gcc and/or libc6. I've reported my problem to NAG, but I expect better results here because it's Linux that's changed recently, not the compiler.
ssh and libgpm2.so (potato)
I'm trying to install ssh (not ssh2) on potato. It can't find libgmp2.so. That sounds suspiciously like something that should be in the libgmp2 package, but that package is installed. ssh is 1.2.27-1 libgmp2 is 2.0.2-1.2 Perhaps I should mention that I previously installed ssh2 and had to remove it, for reasons I can't remember (I think I just couldn't connect to it.) running dpkg --pending --configure ... Setting up ssh (1.2.27-1) ... Generating 1024 bit host key. ssh-keygen: error in loading shared libraries: libgmp2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Sudden problem with root password
I just telnetted to my potato system and tried to su to root. (I know I should be using ssh, but it's my ssh problem that I was trying to fix, thanks Brad.) I got the message su: incorrect password Surely I didn't forget my own root password, but just in case, I went physically to the system which already had a window logged in as root, and changed the root password. I still can't SU using either the old or new password. I hope somebody can tell me what's wrong before the next power failure. (i.e. while I'm still logged in and don't have to work from a rescue disk.)
Potato system can't export NFS file systems
My Slink systems can export NFS file systems to each other and to my Potato system, and can mount remote file systems from each other. My Potato system can mount remote NFS file systems from my Slink systems. But, my Potato system can't seem to export a file system. On the Potato system, I edited /etc/exports to include the names of the clients. I then used showmount -e, which gave me an error message something like RCP - program not registered I rebooted (a bad habit we Windows users develop) and then tried showmount -e, which now shows me the export list. But, when I try to mount the file system on a Slink system, I get mount: backgrounding huey:/home3 rcp.nfsd and rcp.mountd are running on both systems. Ideas?
problems with smbfsx and acct (potato)
I just upgraded from slink to potato. This seemed like the best way to get support for my video card which has the Rage 2 C chipset. That works, but the upgrade affected a few other things, including; Where is smbmount for the 2.2 kernel? It seems to be present in smbfs but not in smbfsx which is the version intended for the latest kernels. But, when I searched for smbmount / unstable using the web site, I got unstable 100% smbfsx 2.0.4b-1 (289.2k) Also, I installed the acct package, and configured the 2.2 kernel with accounting support, but when I use lastcomm I get things like this: (note in particular the lack of program name, the unlikely date, and the fact that I'm not logged as root.) $ lastcomm root ?? 836239.37 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 root ?? 865075.22 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 ? root ?? 1389496.26 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 ? root ?? 1389464.54 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 root ?? 865075.22 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 root ?? 836239.36 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 root ?? 836239.36 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 root ?? 896532.50 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 root ?? 865075.22 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 ? 32512?? 1386741.76 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 ? 32512?? 1386741.76 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00 root ?? 896532.50 secs Wed Dec 31 19:00
Daylight Savings Time
One of my Slink systems, a fresh install, currently reports all times in EST, i.e. it doesn't acknowledge daylight savings time. My other system, which was upgraded from Hamm, reports times in EDT. How can I control this?
Re: apt-get question
I've heard a lot about apt-get in slink but I have a question about it. In hamm, it was such a task to install a package in dselect because it rolls through every single package on the dist. Does slink resolve this problem and more specifically, is apt-get the resolution? What exactly do you mean it rolls through every single package on the dist? If you mean what it sounds like, you only have to roll through every package if you don't know the name (or part of the name) of the package, otherwise just type /searchstring (and then \ to continue the same search) Or do you mean the fact that after you select install you have to wait while it checks the list internally? I admit that was a problem when I ran debian on a slow system that did everything from network drives.
Re: apt-get question
From: Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think what he means is that when you install from CD, it rolls through the CD and checks every packages against the list of selections, like: Skipping deselected package: bash Skipping deselected package: bang Skipping deselected package: beat I remember that from when I had a Hamm system and used dpkg-ftp. I installed Slink from a CD and don't recall getting these messages, certainly I don't get them when selecting/deselecting packages now from the CD (after the install). I don't particularly miss them.
Can't use rsh as root
I'm trying to use rsync from one Debian system to another. It works fine for transferring files from my user directory one one system to my user directory on the other, while I'm logged in to my user account. When I su to root and try, I get permission denied. auth.log shows Mar 19 13:02:19 frankie rshd[779]: rsh denied to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as root: cmd='rsync --server -vunlWogDtpr --delete --force . /backupa1'; Permission denied. /root/.rhosts on each system names the other system. So does /etc/hosts.equiv I'm copying from a hamm system to a slink system.
rsh from root: must use rshd -h
I found the answer to my earlier question about why I could use rsh from my own account but not from root even though .rhosts and hosts.equiv were set. In inetd.conf it's necessary to add the -h option to rshd. I don't know how big a security risk that is, or if there's a good reason why -h isn't included by default, but it works now.
Re: IMAP4-4.1 Broken
On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Dale Harrison wrote: Can someone else out there in Debianland confirm this? IMAP4-4.1 won't delete messages. It might be a new feature or something, but as there was no dox with it, it's hard to tell. I downgraded to IMAP4-4 and everything's hunky dory. IMAP4-4.1 gave me trouble too. However, since I started having problems with IMAP, POP3, and smail simultaneously, I assumed the problem was with smail, and didn't bother downgrading IMAP4. After reading your message I did, and my problems are gone. Outlook Express gives a warning that I need an IMAP 4 rev 1 server, but works fine. Using IMAP4-4.1, my symptoms are different from yours. When I run Outlook Express, it downloads the message headers, and then immediately says your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. If I use the arrow keys fast enough so that the server is kept busy sending the message bodies, the connection does not get terminated, until it's no longer busy, at which point it is immediately terminated. From then on, I cannot download additional message bodies or delete messages because I'm not connected to the server; actually I can download a message by clicking on its header and then selecting file/connect, which downloads the message and then gives the unexpectedly terminated message again. Further on the subject of IMAP4, I'm not sure of the best way to access messages on both the host and the PC. What I do now is, since accessing my mail from the PC causes the messages to be transferred from /var/spool/mail/david to ~david/mbox, I set up procmail to send all unfiltered mail to that file, and set up pine to use that file as its default inbox. This seems to work great, but I only set it up yesterday. One minor annoyance; if I read a message on one system it's still unread on the other. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Deltree command?
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote: It's not rmdir, but just rm; rm -r is what you want - rm -rf does what you want without asking questions (Just plain rm -r will ask you about whether or not to delete files you don't have write access to). I hope I don't need to say how extremely dangerous these commands are, and how careful you should be when using them. For sure. In fact, I'd be careful about counting on rm -r to prompt you. -f or --force means no prompting, -i or --interactive means prompting, and I think the default is no prompting unless the noclobber environment variable is set. This may depend on the shell though. I just tried it with tcsh and noclobber didn't help. [checks the man page] [checks the info page] Aw heck, use -i. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Can't install samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (the one in hamm)
dselect was unable to upgrade my samba using samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb. I then rather foolishly used dpkg --purge samba to see if a fresh install went better, this was a mistake since it left me with no samba at all instead of the older one. I have copied the dselect messages to the end of this message. Is there a known problem? If not, is there a log file I should look into for more details? Unpacking samba (from .../net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb) ... dpkg: error processing debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/ samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/man/man8/smbmount.8.gz', which is also in package ksmbfs dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: errors in hamm upgrade
On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Adam Klein wrote: Yes. Smail now rejects connections from hostnames which don't have a dot in them. The fix is to change the line in /etc/smail/config which reads '-smtp_hello_broken_allow' to read 'smtp_hello_broken_allow=localnet'. I have the same (or a similar) problem, i.e. when I try to send mail using pine I get a message complaining that localhost doesn't have a . in it. But, the above fix didn't work, and neither does smtp_hello_broken_allow=localnet:localhost:127.0.0.1 What does work is: smtp_hello_broken_allow=* but I'm not fond of that, for obvious reasons. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: upgrade to hamm == X problems
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: It worked fine with bo but when i start the server under hamm, my machine switches to video mode, blanks the screen, and stops talking to the console. The server output looks normal (looks like it's not aware there's a problem). I cant switch virtual consoles, i cant toggle numlock, but i can ping the machine and i can log in remotely. I can also reboot with Ctrl-Alt-Del. Are you sure you can't switch virtual consoles? I have the same problem in all other respects. I have to use ctrl-alt-f1 instead of alt-f1 to switch virtual consoles since X is running, did you forget about that? My power save light comes on and my monitor shuts off until I switch to a virtual console. The server output on the console is normal as you said. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I burst my LILO (new user)
On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, ADRIAN CLAYTON wrote: Having installed from diskimage floppies, I accidentally deleted some stuff (in the /dpkg directory) and decided to start over again. Since I reinstalled, LILO sticks every time I boot from harddisk. I then also imported LOADLIN~.DEB and configured it, without visible effect. I can reboot from the Rescue Disk OK, but otherwise it goes: LI LI (hangs without getting to LO) I find that after a new install I have to boot to the boot disk (not the rescue disk, the boot disk that's made during installation) and run lilo. No options, I just log in as root and type lilo. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail gone made
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: Yesterday I upgraded some packages, including smail. Coming in this morning, there was no new mail, which is more than a little odd. Apparently smail was no longer running; trying to stop the daemon failed. I restarted it, and mail begain appearing. But Every message is accompanied by an error message like this: I had to rerun smail-config and specify using a daemon instead of an inet.d entry. (I got that from reading debian-devel.) But, apparently you were already using a daemon; there's obviously something here I don't understand, but try what I did anyway. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How unstable is hamm?
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, bleach wrote: I have also had dselect render my system incapabile of a full boot a couple of times following an install session. The last being a couple of days ago and was an fsck check failure. Dselect had removed libcom_err which it seem caused e2fsck to fail to load. Dselect displayed a conflict and I forced an override--it worked. I am probably remiss in that I have not bothered to record in detail exactly what happened. It was more like, e2fslibsg removed e2fsprogs but didn't install e2fsprogsg to replace it. I did some pouting about that on another mailing list. I think the bottom line is, if you use Hamm you're getting the latest features and the latest bugs, so you have to be a bit of a gambler; it's usually fine, but there's no guarantee that nobody uploaded a bad package today. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Wild interrupt detection, and ATI bus mouse
My ATI bus mouse doesn't work, with either GPM or X. But first, what does Wild interrupt detection mean? While booting I get the message Wild interrupts found: 5 The message is generated by setserial, in /etc/rc.boot/0setserial. It's interesting that IRQ5 is the interrupt of the non-working mouse. I can't find any conflicting device, and the mouse works fine with Windows 95 and ATI's test program. Because of the above message, I imagine that my problems begin before gpm is even started. However, I'll mention a few details; - I compiled the kernel with ati bus mouse support - /dev/mouse points to /dev/atibm which looks like crw--- 1 root sys 10, 3 Oct 12 14:38 atibm - I run gpm -t bm or gpm -t bm -m /dev/atibm - The message returned by gpm is /dev/mouse: no such device (or /dev/atibm: no such device) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Wild interrupt detection, and ATI bus mouse
On 21 Nov 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote: David Gaudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - I compiled the kernel with ati bus mouse support Did you compile it as a module? If so then you'll need `insmod atixlmouse' or just add it to /etc/modules. I didn't compile it as a module. I compiled support for auto loading of modules, but didn't compile anything as modules. If that's not the problem, then check whether the kernel detects it; does it say ATI Inport Bus mouse detected and installed. at boot time? No. I'm afraid that my question about wild interrupt detection was probably misleading. COM1 and COM2 were disabled for some reason, and when I enabled them the warning about wild interrupt:5 disappeared. Or, if I left them disabled and removed the modem (COM 4 IRQ 3) the message also disappeared. This doesn't make sense to me, but it probably means simply that there's an unknown device using IRQ 5 and this was detected during initialization of the serial ports. For what it's worth, here's a snip from /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_MOUSE=y CONFIG_ATIXL_BUSMOUSE=y # CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set # CONFIG_MS_BUSMOUSE is not set # CONFIG_PSMOUSE is not set -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: unstable. How?
On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Brian Skreeg wrote: I just totally give up with this. Running debian 1.3.1 from CD but now I feel I need to delve into unstable again (always happens). Thing is, unstable has moved dir`s in the distribution and I`ll be damned if I can get the right entries into dpkg-ftp to download from it. What paths do I put in? No matter what do , either it can`t get the package file (once updated) or can`t find the files I want to d`load. I use: ftp site: ftp.debian.org debian directory: /debian dists/unstable/main dists/unstable/contrib dists/unstable/non-free -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Incorrect no room message on nfs-mounted /var/lib/dpkg
I installed the Debian 1.3.1 base system from diskettes, on a system that has only 32 megs disk space (not counting the swap partition). I copied /usr and /var/lib/dpkg to a larger system (this one) and did NFS mounts; Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/hda1 31724709622990 24% / annette:/linuxsrv 474227 263166 186567 59% /linuxsrv annette:/linuxsrv/huey_usr 474227 263166 186567 59% /usr annette:/linuxsrv/huey_dpkg 474227 263166 186567 59% /var/lib/dpkg I then tried to complete the installation by using dselect to install the default list of packages by ftp. Everything proceeds as expected until it's ready to download the packages. Then, after the list of required packages, I get Approximate total space required: 33224k Available space in debian: 59%k and it refuses to download more than two or three packages. This is my second attempt at the installation, the first time the message was Available space in debian: k If I do the installation without using NFS mounts, the available space is displayed correctly, but is too small to be useful. Any ideas? How does dpkg-ftp determine the available disk space? If all else fails I'll get a CDROM and try again, which I've avoided so far mainly because I'd have to use NFS to access the cdrom, and probably run into another set of problems. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mail domain
On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Paul Miller wrote: it was set to (none) ... changing it to 3dillusion.com also had no effect.. I don't think I have the NIS package installed, what is it? I have a similar problem; when I run pine I get the message incomplete maildomain annette Return address in mail you send may be incorrect Like you, my /etc/defaultdomain is correct and I created /etc/domainname, and /cat/sys/kernel/domainname returned (none) so I changed it to concordia.ca. The only clue I have is that I think the problem started when I upgraded using Hamm about a week ago. I upgrade every few days, so if there was a problem it was with a package that was updated last week. But, then I would expect everyone to have the same problem, which would then magically disappear at the next update. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mail domain
Sorry if this is a rerun, I think the list rejected it the first time because my email address was bad, which is sort of the point of this thread. On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Paul Miller wrote: it was set to (none) ... changing it to 3dillusion.com also had no effect.. I don't think I have the NIS package installed, what is it? I have a similar problem; when I run pine I get the message incomplete maildomain annette Return address in mail you send may be incorrect Like you, my /etc/defaultdomain is correct and I created /etc/domainname, and /cat/sys/kernel/domainname returned (none) so I changed it to concordia.ca. The only clue I have is that I think the problem started when I upgraded using Hamm about a week ago. I upgrade every few days, so if there was a Hamm-related problem it was with a package that was updated last week. But, then I would expect everyone to have the same problem, which would have magically disappeared at the next update. I can't think of any other reason why my domain name would suddenly be bad after being fine for over a year. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: root.dip: invalid group when installing ppp
On 14 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Gaudine writes: When I try to configure ppp I get: Setting up ppp (2.2.0f-19) ... chown: root.dip: invalid group dpkg: error processing ppp (--configure): I ran into that recently with diald. Turned out to be a typo in /etc/group. My /etc/group doesn't have anything remotely resembling root.dip. I tried installing diald (because of your comment) and it installed without complaint and the group still doesn't exist. Oh well, I'll just addgroup it blindly with a random GID. [switches windows] OOPs, addgroup only accepts letters and numbers, root.dip is invalid. So I edited /etc/group as follows: operator:*:37: root.dip:*:39: src:*:40: and dselect still gives: Setting up ppp (2.2.0f-19) ... chown: root.dip: invalid group Looks like I'm in over my head again.
Re: root.dip: invalid group when installing ppp
On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, David Gaudine wrote: OOPs, addgroup only accepts letters and numbers, root.dip is invalid. So I edited /etc/group as follows: operator:*:37: root.dip:*:39: src:*:40: Thanks to those who pointed out that root.dip is not the group name, it means user root and group dip. addgroup --gid 30 dip worked and solved my ppp configuration problem.
root.dip: invalid group when installing ppp
When I try to configure ppp I get: Setting up ppp (2.2.0f-19) ... chown: root.dip: invalid group dpkg: error processing ppp (--configure): Should I simply create the group using addgroup? What should the group ID be?
Re: xdm : always reply login incorrect
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Mathieu LEGRAND wrote: I just installed Debian Linux 1.2 from Infomagic Pack. I have a problem I can't fix, maybe you will help me : When I start Linux, xdm starts with the graphic banner login but I can't log in from it : it always replies login incorrect. I have then to log in text mode and to enter startx... Do you have any idea ? This is a long shot compared to the other responses, but; I once had the same problem because my password was more than 8 characters.
Re: Debian on the shuttle
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Jonas Bofjall wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: First and foremost - great going guys! But... It saddened me to see no mention of Linus' name in the article. He is more than just a Neither of Richard Stallman or the GNU team... Nor any suggestion that any other Linux distribution may have ever existed. It really sounds like the Debian team finished the job and made Linux into a useable system. [relevant part of Bruce's quote brought back in] A Finnish college student started Linux in the early 1990's, and was joined by others on the Internet who helped develop the system. We united Linux with free software contributed by other volunteers to make a complete system of 800 software packages. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Too many packages!
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Kendrick Myatt wrote: Ok, so somehow I downloaded a lot of stuff I just don't want, like X, emacs, TeX, and a host of little things like the little calculator program... I fire up Dselect and go to remove, and then it comes back to the menu screen with Exit highlighted. Is this normal? Yes, because you didn't select what you want to remove. Use select first. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just a Proposition....:-)))
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A text based installation of the BASE system (whatever it is) plus X. Later we continue the installation under X by just using something like xdselect or xdpkg (without cryptic spells, just checkboxes). Of course there should be an option for all these who love the text version of the installation...:-)) I think installing and upgrading under X by just using the mouse pointer should be possible...and BTW other so called OS can do it too...more or less...:-))) Maybe someone is currently working on an installation routine like this and I think it would make debian more user friendly and debian would gain more users The first time I tried to install X in was on a Diamond Viper before that particular card was supported. Later I encountered various revisions of the mach64, each time having to wait for one more beta of the server. Plus, I've encountered some very interesting mouse-related problems. So maybe this has warped my attitude. But personally, I don't want to even *think* about installing X on a system until I've already installed everything else. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 failure
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Martin Konold wrote: I have now installed: gcc_2.7.2.1-2.deb g77_0.5.18-2.deb gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or directory As I understand it, f77 wants gcc 2.7.2 and not gcc 2.7.2.1 I don't know the correct solution, but I just made a couple of links. And failed to keep a record of what I did. I think it was this; cd /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux ln /2.7.2/f771 2.7.2.1/f771 and it looks like I did the same for libf2c.a and possibly the include subdirectory. Probably not the right way, but it works for me. I should have made soft links. Since I did hard links, I can't even tell whether I made the link from 2.7.2 to 2.7.2.1 or vice versa. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 f2c serious problems
On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Arrigo Triulzi wrote: people here are having very serious problems with both g77 and f2c: the numbers which come out at the end are different from any other architecture we can lay our hands on, i.e. they have declared the boxes unfit for numerical calculations. This is a pretty major problem because the whole idea of getting Linux on fast PCs was to offload the main Unix boxes from jobs. Now the question is: am I the only one seeing this problem or is this a known problem which somehow doesn't make it on the READMEs and FAQs? I'd like to point out that where g77 is in alpha stage, f2c isn't and on other architectures is happily used and gives numerically consistent results with the native Fortran compilers. The only problem I've had is that with one numbercrunching program (NEC) I had to use g77's equivalent of the -static switch even though -static isn't necessary with other compilers for that program. I forget the exact syntax, g77 doesn't support -static by that name, it's something like -fno_automatic (see the g77 info file section on command line parameters.) BTW, I put Linux on this PC for the same reason as you did, and it's worked out quite well, especially since this PC is considerably faster than our aging main Unix boxes. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 f2c serious problems
On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Arrigo Triulzi wrote: I would greatly appreciate any information or patches. A bug report is in the process of being prepared for both the g77 developers and the f2c developers. Incidentally, should I send a bug report to the Debian developers too? I should add that, in the unlikely event that -fno_automatic solves your problem, you should send the bug report to the developers of your source code. -fno_automatic solves a problem that should not come up with correct code. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newsgroup creation RFD - draft
On 6 Sep 1996, Juri Pakaste wrote:
Wouldn't comp.os.linux.distrib.debian.* or something similar be
better? If users of other distributions decide that they'd like to
have newsgroups too, things would be pretty confusing with
c.o.l.{debian,redhat,caldera,slackware,craftworks,yggdrasil,wgs,
linux-ft}.* etc.
As opposed to
c.o.l.d.{debian,redhat,caldera,slackware,craftworks,yggdrasil,wgs,
linux-ft}.*
?
Of course the difference is that these would be clearly separated from
{misc,hardware,networking,announce,setup,answers,x}
but that doesn't seem important.
Re: mailing list
On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Lars Wirzenius wrote: It is also easy to start reading a newsgroup. Many more people read a newsgroup than an average mailing list. [snip] Subscribing to a list takes much more effort, which reduces the number of participants. [snip] linux.* aren't on everyone's news server, so fewer people can easily access them, but anyway who wants to can. There seems to be a pattern here. What about people that hear about Linux for the first time? They're likely to head directly to comp.* and read the Slackware vs. Red Hat threads. I installed Slackware long before I knew there was a Debian mailing list or newsgroup, and I assume that a lot of Debian users are converts for the same reason. This might cut down on the number of silly questions, but it probably also cuts down on the number of Debian users. I would think that a prominent debian newsgroup would get a lot more attention. I guess it depends on whether you want debian to eventually become the major system, or used mainly by people with prior Linux experience. (Am I correct in assuming that most people start with Slackware or Red Hat because they're prominent?) A few months ago, someone asked me to investigate debian. I looked in comp.os.linux.*, and came up empty because the word debian did not appear once in the 7 days of articles that my server still had. I searched for any newsgroup with the word debian in it and there were none. Eventually I found something, probably by doing a web search. Keeping Linux discussion on a mailing list and a hidden newsgroup certainly doesn't make it easy for newcomers looking for Debian info. And they have no reason to try very hard, with people screaming Slackware! at them. * If you think reading news is easier than reading mail, get better software. Some people don't have much control over their software, and some people don't have sufficient disk quotas to use mailing lists. If I were a student here I certainly wouldn't be on any mailing lists. (It's bad enough having to fit a web page into 500K!)
Re: mgetty basic setup
On 27 Aug 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote: Please read the documentation provided. (man mgetty and look into /usr/doc/mgetty!) I have no /usr/doc/mgetty, that was my first problem. dpkg --contents mgetty_0.99.deb and dpkg --search mgetty both can't find it. There is only /usr/doc/copyright/mgetty. Did you mean /usr/info? That seems to have the same information as Gert's Postscript file, which is what I used for my successful Slackware installation. Following that info is complicated a bit by not having policy.h. David Gaudine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : 2) What should the line in /etc/inittab be? I'm using :d3:45:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS2 :because this is what worked with Slackware. man mgetty and info mgetty give no hint about whether d3:45 is correct. Can somebody tell me what line works for them? I realize I'm missing something obvious, since I've been reading the debian and mgetty mailing lists for months and nobody else seems to have such basic problems.
mgetty basic setup
I have mgetty working on a Slackware system, so I assumed I'd have no trouble getting it working on a Debian system. Boy, was I wrong. I have no idea what I'm doing, or why nobody else seems to have trouble. I couldn't find any debian-specific instructions. 1) using dpkg --contents mgetty_099.deb, I see that various configuration files (login.config, mgetty.config, etc.) go in /etc/mgetty. However, after installing the package, that directory was empty. Why? I've removed and reinstalled the package, using both dselect and dpkg; usually /etc/mgetty is empty, once login.config mysteriously appeared. Finally I copied the files from the Slackware system. 2) What should the line in /etc/inittab be? I'm using d3:45:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS2 because this is what worked with Slackware. (not exactly; the other system used com2 (d2,ttyS1), and /usr/local/sbin). Where is this d3:45 stuff documented? The reason I got it working with Slackware is that there were already sample lines commented out. (I think.) BTW, the modem is set to com3, and minicom works using /dev/ttyS2 3) Do I need the gettydefs file? I copied it from - you guessed it - the slackware system. Oh, I should mention what happens; absolutely nothing. No answer, no logs.
Debian-1.1 Packages file sync problem
Bruce Perens writes: I ran a Packages file update yesterday but it apparently did not complete. I am running one now. That should be a pretty popular download. What worries me is whether the market is going to be flooded with CDROMs with bad Packages files. With Slackware that always seems to be a problem; the moment a new release is announced everyone wants to be the first to release a CD, without waiting a few days for last-minute fixes.
Re: Debian-1.1 Packages file sync problem
Kai Grossjohann writes: I suggest throwing away the Packages thingy completely and always telling dselect to update its info based on the actual contents of the directory. People have been hit too often by that problem, I think. This could be combined with the update option in deselect, or a new scan packages option could be added. I tried using dpkg --scanpackages. When that didn't work I tried every variation I could think of (Scanpackages, ScanPackages, scan-packages...) It looks like I'll have to wait for the update.
Re: Debian Linux Distribution Release 1.1 Now Available
I installed the beta a few weeks ago. I realize that there's a procedure to upgrade from 0.93 to 1.1, but is there a procedure to upgrade from the 1.1 beta to 1.1, or do I just grab the packages and Packages.gz? Will dselect ugrade everything, including dselect itself and the files that were originally installed from the 5 disks?
Re: package conflicts
Guy Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: psfonts There's gsfonts, fonts for ghostscript. Is that what you mean? I got some sort of can't find psfonts error, I forget the details, when I was using a bad copy of one of the package in the tex directory. I can't check the name of the package now, something like psnfs(?) I asked here, and someone told me to get the psnfs(?) package from the stable directory instead of unstable, and everything worked. I never did figure out why. However, it did seem that dselect went looking for a package called psfonts when it really wanted psnfs(?) Sorry to be so vague, but a vague answer is better than no answer. Sometimes.
Re: Debian 1.1beta problems
From: Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Is it true that dselect automatically updates to newer versions of packages (if a newer version appears in the directory structure and you run dselect)? What do you do if you want to reinstall the same version of a package - can you do it? (for example you might want to re - set it up) This does work. Since I don't know how to find the configuration programs for some package, I use dselect to remove the package and then to reinstall it. I assume there's a better way, but this does work.
/etc/cron.daily/find exited with return code 1
I get this message daily: From: root (Cron Daemon) To: root Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily Date: Tue, 28 May 96 06:42 EDT run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/find exited with return code 1 /etc/cron.daily/find is; #! /bin/sh # # cron script to update the `find.codes' database. # # Written by Ian A. Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED]. su nobody -c cd / updatedb 2/dev/null What does this mean? If I log in as sroot and enter the above, there is no terminal output. Of course, it's redirected, says I. So, I try without the 2/dev/null part, and get su: cannot run /dev/null: Permission denied Yes, I get the error involving /dev/null only if I *don't* specify /dev/null in the command.
