Re: Single-page application [was: debian.org - broken Download link.]
> Tastes can be so different :) Looks like our tastes quite the same. - Plain HTML with Caching is a robust but now days rare used. - SPA widely used, but with high resource consumption.
SIP programs on PowerPC
Hi. I have Debian/SID on iBook G4 (powerpc), updated on a weekly basis. Of the SIP programs I tried, only Twinkle succeeded to produce sound. Ekiga and LinPhone connect to 500 at ekiga-dot-net (test call), with no sound. Ekiga shows that no sound input stream is received from the ekiga server (but video is ok). Blink (built from source) could not be installed because of dependencies. QuteCom does not provide a GUI option to register to a SIP account. I wonder whether those issues are laptop specific, or powerpc specific (big endian etc)? Thanks, Dima. P.S. Please CC me, I am not registered to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120107010522.e8deb7a...@minignu.minidns.net
lenny kernel mode pppoe
Hello all, After upgrade to lenny from etch I found strange think, I could not rebuild pppoe source package with kernel mode support. With etch I can still do it without any problems. Does anyone has seen same strange think ? BR, Dmitri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Load does not distributes per CPU cores
Hello All, I have one box with CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPUQ6600 @ 2.40GHz Fresh installation with Etch amd64, kernel 2.6.26-core2-amd64 (backport) The problem consist that load do not distributes per CPU cores . In time when first core loaded 100 % (0% idle), other cores have load approx. 13% (87% idle). Type of load -- PPPoE sessions termination (1000) + mysql. Interrupts do not distribute per CPU cores as well ! server:/# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3 0: 36 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 8 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge i8042 8: 1 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc0 9: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi 16: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb4, ahci 17: 76 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi ide0, ide1 18: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb3 19: 44641518 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb2, ata_piix, ata_piix, eth1 21: 46246974422 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth3 22:193 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi HDA Intel 23: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb1, ehci_hcd:usb5 1273: 2290156220 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth0 1274: 532003458 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth2 NMI: 0 0 0 0 Non-maskable interrupts LOC: 3499690657 101451884 83962573 76629102 Local timer interrupts RES: 16526462 16022276 16402552 16051127 Rescheduling interrupts CAL: 43627 42308 35745 38946 function call interrupts TLB:3551429324446420948092700859 TLB shootdowns TRM: 0 0 0 0 Thermal event interrupts THR: 0 0 0 0 Threshold APIC interrupts SPU: 0 0 0 0 Spurious interrupts ERR: 0 server:/# I have one more box with more fresh hardware. There is no such kind of problem and all works very well with exactly same installation of Etch: server:/# ssh u...@server2 'cat /proc/interrupts' CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3 0: 1997 1973 1976 1987 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 1 0 1 0 IO-APIC-edge i8042 8: 0 1 0 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc0 9: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi 12: 2 0 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042 16: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb1 18: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb3, ehci_hcd:usb5, uhci_hcd:usb7 19: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb6, ide0, ide1 21: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb2 23: 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb4, ehci_hcd:usb8 1272: 160723401 160486121 160786676 160502068 PCI-MSI-edge eth2 1273: 635355568 636393198 635203303 636454623 PCI-MSI-edge eth1 1274: 290877702 290021095 290952980 289980421 PCI-MSI-edge eth0 1275: 19917870 19824531 19928985 19818790 PCI-MSI-edge ahci NMI: 0 0 0 0 Non-maskable interrupts LOC: 597673455 593601582 581710941 578993322 Local timer interrupts RES:2040904195686123632432485440 Rescheduling interrupts CAL: 81397 78067 75621 76000 function call interrupts TLB:1874481303981217126942825544 TLB shootdowns TRM: 0 0 0 0 Thermal event interrupts THR: 0 0 0 0 Threshold APIC interrupts SPU: 0 0 0 0 Spurious interrupts ERR: 0 server:/# First box has following hardware: Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC. Product Name: P5B-Premium Version: Rev 1.xx Serial Number: MB-1234567890 TOP on the first box: Cpu0 : 1.0%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 80.7%id, 0.0%wa, 2.7%hi, 15.3%si, 0.0%st Cpu1 : 0.3%us, 1.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.4%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Cpu2 : 0.6%us, 0.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Cpu3 : 1.6%us, 0.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st iostat on the first box: avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 2,980,006,930,280,00 89,80 Device:tps Blk_read/s Blk_wrtn/s Blk_read Blk_wrtn sda 32,1618,14 690,07 10957688 416916080 sda1 32,1618,14
Re[1]: Предлагаем быстро выучить Разговорный ан глийский язык Sean
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Re: fetchmail and friends
David Stern wrote: Hi, My fetchmail, sendmail, and procmail configuration has passed initial testing for use with ppp and imap (my isp recomends imap over pop3), though it's not been automated or tweaked as of yet. I have one important issue to resolve: when I view my email in exmh (57 messages), I found that all my messages were concatenated into a single message. I'd say you're using mbox (all messages in a single file) format whereas exmh wants mh folder format (each folder is a directory, messages are in individual files named 1, 2 etc). You have to set up mh maildir (usually ~/Mail) and folder(s) in there (default is inbox: ~/Mail/inbox), and tell procmail to deliver there, eg. :0w:~/Mail/inbox/.mh_sequences.LCK * ^TOfilter-expr.* | /usr/lib/mh/rcvstore +inbox see procmail manpages and docs for details. HTH -- Dimitri if replying to a Usenet posting, reply to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au The views expressed above (hereafter, views) are mine and ownership remains with me. They are provided as is without expressed or implied warranty of any kind, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of the suitability of the views for any purpose. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PAP PPP, take 3
Alex Yukhimets wrote: how do you configure Internet explore dialer? I understand you type in the phone number and what else? DO you specify it needs pap authorization? May be your ISP uses chap (hardly probable), not pap? You also type in username and password. AFAIK it does PAP by default (you don't specify it anywhere), and text login if you select a script. Some terminal servers (eg. annexes) can be configured to go into text login if they receive a CR, or straight into PPP/PAP if they receive PPP frames. Rick (?), try editing your chatscript so that its last line is CONNECT Also, check if you have passive or silent option enabled in /etc/ppp.options_out or /etc/ppp/options, remove (comment out) them if they are. That will start pppd and get it to send PPP frames right after your modem connects. HTH -- Dimirti my real address is emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- If Jesus was Jewish, why did he have a Puerto-Rican name? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a bit more on that PPP PAP
Rick Hawkins wrote: It just occurred to me that I haven't set anything for PPP to tell it an initial route to the world, other than including the nameserver IP's in /etc. Is there something I should be setting in /etc/options_out? It sets up the route automagically. However, if you want it to be the default route (you probably do) you need to add defaultroute to /etc/ppp.options_out. HTH -- Dimirti my real address is emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- If Jesus was Jewish, why did he have a Puerto-Rican name? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ppp error question
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I received this last night: Excessive lack of response to LCP echo frames connection terminated In /etc/ppp/options there's a number of lcp-echo* options. Comment them out. What does this mean? ppp sends out echo-requests to see if the link is up. If it doesn't receive replies it assumes the link is down and terminates. Some servers out there don't understand echo-requests, looks like your ISP has one of those. I had to reboot because my box quit seeing my modem. setserial would say /dev/modem, unknown UART, 0x2f8 irq 3 with `setserial /dev/modem`. It is an internal Best Data uses dip switches and has served me faithfully for many moons. Is there some way to reset a modem without a coldboot (which this required, reboot did no good)? I'd say the problem is somewhere else... You shouldn't use /dev/modem unless it's a pcmcia modem or something. Use /dev/ttyS? instead. HTH -- Dimitri if replying to a Usenet posting, reply to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au The views expressed above (hereafter, views) are mine and ownership remains with me. They are provided as is without expressed or implied warranty of any kind, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of the suitability of the views for any purpose. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
apologies and fix for fetchmail
Apologies to Raul and everyone who got bounces from me. I upgraded fetchmail to 4.3.2-1 and did some rtfm'ing -- that helped. New fetchmail wants to be told where to deliver mail: add eg. smtphost localhost to your .fetchmailrc. Don't forget to check if your MTA knows localhost is this box here. It turns out that qmail doesn't know that -- hence the bounces. dream mode I'd love to see VERY BIG WARNING repeatedly printed by a postinst script when a program's behaviour has changed in the new version - especially when it's one of the base programs, daemons, or has something to do with mail delivery. /dream mode -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help Kernel Oops!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I interpret this kernel debugging output? How do I learn to interpret kernel debugging output? How do I fix my system so I don't need to learn to interpret kernel debugging output? By UTSL'ing; however Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address blah is a known bug in 2.0.x kernels, especially 2.0.30. I've seen it on 2.0.31, too. Downgrading to 2.0.29 or .27 is the only solution that I know of. -- Dimitri --- This is the official notification that I do not wish to receive any unsolicited commercial e-mail, so don't try. Or else. (Solicited advertisements huh? and other such can be sent to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: netscape
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Nov 01, 1997 at 11:52:59AM +0100, Egon Schmid wrote: Ever since I upgraded to XFree86 3.3 (in unstable), netscape won't run. First it complains that it can't find XKeysymDB, so I set that environment variable; then I get a bus error. I don´t think that XFree86 3.3 is the problem. Can you reinstall netscape. There will be two possibilities. I did it (the debian way), I was running the netscape as opposed to netscape3 package, so I thought that might helpm but it didn't. Right now I am trying to do some web development with mysql and www-sql and I really need a web browser with tables :-( Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib/libc5-compat fixed my netscraper. It didn't get bus error, though, it segfaulted. Try running ldd and/or strace on it. -- Dimirti my real address is emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- If Jesus was Jewish, why did he have a Puerto-Rican name? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Thanks for the help with compiling a new kernel... BUT!
Thalia L. Hooker wrote: Hi, ... I tried the kernel package and compilation went fine except it didn't seem to compile any of the new modules even though I requested SCSI support, SCSI disk support, and the driver AHA152x. I say this because when I noticed it had not detected any scsi hosts, I searched for a file: aha152x.o and didn't see anything like it on the whole hard drive. ... CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X=Y Looks like you've compiled it in, shouldn't it be M for module? It still doesn't explain why SCSI is not being detected, perhaps you need to add some command-line options? ... - If I add new RAM to my system, do I need to recompile the kernel for it to be able to use all of it? You may need to tell kernel mem=24M (see LILO docs) if your bios doesn't report 16 Mb. HTH -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: exmh configuration
Lance Levsen wrote: Oh yeah, on other thing. The last filter should be to your +inbox. and shoul d be generic: :0 * |/usr/lib/mh/rcvstore +inbox This allows anything that failed all tests to get dumped into the inbox instead of the bit bucket (or where ever else it might go or do). Another bit of advise is that rcvstore (apparently) does not lock files properly, so it is possible that multiple copies of rcvstore will mess up folder/mh_sequences files. Use file locking, like :0:$MAILDIR/$FOLDER/mh_sequences (details in procmail manpage) -- Dimirti my real address is emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- If Jesus was Jewish, why did he have a Puerto-Rican name? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mail failed, returning to sender
Funny, I got one of those too last time I posted to debian-user. What's up (and who tf is dodo)? Pete? |- Failed addresses follow: -| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... transport smtp: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown |- Message text follows: | -- Dimirti my real address is emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- If Jesus was Jewish, why did he have a Puerto-Rican name? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: netscape and linking
Karsten Bolding wrote: Hi When I start Netscape (v. 4.03) as root - no problems, when I do the same as an ordinary user I get a segmentation fault. I compared the output from 's trace /usr/local/netscape/netscape' the root started version links to /usr/ lib/libc5-compat/* where as the user started version links to more /usr/X11 R6/lib/* . Now how do I change the order where a programme looks for libraries? Make a wrapper script (or edit the existing one) and put LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/libc5-compat export LD_LIBRARY_PATH exec /path/to/netscape $@ HTH -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Objects in the mirror appear further then they are (etched on a rear view mirror of a Mitsubishi Mirage) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
weird X problem
- Hi, I've an interesting X problem and I'm out of ideas. Any help much appreciated, TIA. Problem: I install any xlib-3.3-[ 5 ] (running hamm) and I can't startx as a user. I can if I specify full path to server (i.e. startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/X) but then X apps won't start saying connection to server refused. Sounds like permissions to me but I can't work out where/which. I diffed the contents of xlib6-3.3-5 and -7 debs, diffed contents of /usr/X11R6 before and after xlib6 upgrade, checked setuid bit on X and nothing looks wrong to me. Yet downgrading xlib6 to 3.3-5 fixes it. Suggestions? -- Dimitri --- This is the official notification that I do not wish to receive any unsolicited commercial e-mail, so don't try. Or else. (Solicited advertisements huh? and other such can be sent to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: THANKS 4 - WinNT syscalls insecurity (fwd)
JD Thomlinson wrote: Nuts! I'm damn glad that you sent what you sent to the list! Considering how much space is already wasted on irrelevant flame wars on who's in charge of what and in what manner, it's refreshing to see useful, detailed information about real code and what's going on in NT. This I can take to someone and point out why they should be considering Debian. I don't have the time to check out every URL that someone includes in a post. Thank you!!! Please include me in any future mailings of yours. Ditto. -- Dimitri The views expressed above (hereafter, views) are mine and ownership remains with me. They are provided as is without expressed or implied warranty of any kind, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of the suitability of the views for any purpose. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MC
Peter Bodnar wrote: ... I know this, but learn key don't work correctly...but some weeks ago somebody wrote about patch on MC You have to use terminfo file supplied with mc for xterm. It then breaks all ncurses packages -- dselect, ncftp etc. (RT mc docs, description of how to modify your terminfo database is there somewhere). HTH -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: serial port speed
David Wright wrote: Perhaps there's some history here. I installed Debian 1.3 on a 1997 pentium and setserial -a /dev/ttyS? all say that baud_base is 115200 and Flags: spd_normal... Both mgetty and minicom will satisfactorily handle 115200, so all this messing with spd_vhi seems to be a thing of the past. Presumably, by now, any software that can't ask for 38400 should have a bug report filed against it. Unless you care about POSIX compliance. IIRC baud_base and whatever's the option to specify divisor allow you to use any clock frequency on your serial port -- as long as hardware supports it. Very neat, but non-POSIX. Which means if software relies on it, it's not POSIX compliant. Conversely, software that asks for 38400 is POSIX compliant and (hopefully) portable. So, you're suggesting that POSIX compliance is a bug, and so is portability :-) -- well, not exactly: that absence of non-standard and non-portable features is a bug. Just kidding -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Please CC to me when replying to Usenet or a list -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Dselect failure
Remco Blaakmeer wrote: ... Have you tried this one? Works for me (dpkg-ftp 1.4.9). I think so [1]. It works now, thanks. [1] What happened is new Packages.* files made it crosslink before packages themselves did. So, I was getting heaps of no such file OR directory messages during install stage and -- well it was rather late... Last night only a few packages were missing from crosslink, so it worked fine. -- Dimitri --- õ ÍÁÔÒÏÓÏ× ÎÅÔ ×ÏÐÒÏÓÏ×: Õ ÎÉÈ ÅÓÔØ ÍÎÏÇÏ ÐÁÐÉÒÏÓÏ×. ( nursery rhyme ) (the .sig is in KOI-8, unless someone stole high bits. Oh, and if you're replying to a Usenet article my e-mail is emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Dselect failure
Bruce Perens wrote: Never mind my previous answer. Tell dselect: Enter Debian Directory: /pub/debian/dists/unstable Distributions to get: main contrib non-free ( this should probably go to developers list ) Bruce, it doesn't work. It'll either find packages files during Access and Update steps, and then fail on Install, or it'll fail on Access/Update, depending on how you specify Deb Dir and distributions. I tried all possible combinations and ended up hacking dpkg-ftp. -- Dimitri --- This is the official notification that I do not wish to receive any unsolicited commercial e-mail, so don't try. Or else. (Solicited advertisements huh? and other such can be sent to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Intermittant PPP connection
Rob MacWilliams wrote: ... My ISP has a 10 min. no activity timer once I am logged in and have done something, so I just grab the mail every 9 min. Your ping should work fine and grabbing the mail every 10 sec. is a little excessive. If I were you I would contact your ISP and ask them to change the 10 sec. timeout, it does seem a little unreasonable. Has anyone suggested checking LCP-echo? -- I missed the beginning of this thread. /etc/ppp/options has LCP echo interval N and LCP echo failure M options which can cause this if your ISP doesn't reply to LCP-echoes. What happens is your pppd sends echo-requests every N seconds and expects replies. After M unanswered echo-requests pppd assumes remote end is down and terminates. Try commenting them out. -- Dimitri --- This is the official notification that I do not wish to receive any unsolicited commercial e-mail, so don't try. Or else. (Solicited advertisements huh? and other such can be sent to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MS-DOS Long Files Name
Wiria Atmadja Kusuma wrote: ... 56 KB snipped ... You gotta be kidding! Did you HAVE to CC install.html to the list? Please consider sending a URL next time. TIA -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Starting out...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Ms. Geek wrote: Are there still any pitfalls to using Debian Linux with the K5 chip or any of the other hardware I mentioned above? Eventually I plan on upgrading to I dont know about any other hardware, but I am running Debian on my AMD 586/133mhz motherboard and it works fine. The K5 and K6 chips are designed more for data processing and file movement.. Linux will in most cases run faster on these motherboards then it would on a Pentium motherboard. This is what I have been told and also seen.. There is a K6 vs Pentium thread in c.o.l.d.system (IIRC), have a look. Main thing about non-Intel chips is that they come with slower FPUs and are optimized for integer math. Anything that uses FPU (like Quake) will run slower on these chips. OTOH apparently K6 is faster that Pentium when it comes to kernel compiles etc. -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ESS vs SB16 sound cards?
Raymond A. Ingles wrote: With the ESS 16-bit sound cards about $20 cheaper than the SB16 stuff, I'd consider getting one. How good is the ESS support under Linux? ESS are supported by SB16 driver. They don't sound too well, especially midi, but I suspect SB16 won't sound much better. How about DOS? (I'd like 16-bit sound for the few DOS games I play, and so far as I know the ESS cards are only compatible with the (8-bit) SB Pro. Depends. Some games worked when I selected SB16, some didn't. Sorry, I can't be more specific, but I haven't touched any DOS games recently. Does anyone have any info or recommendations? Thanks! Also, ESS cards are PnP (at least the ones I've seen) so you'll need isapnp tools. -- Dimitri --- By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment. By Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. (Solicited advertisements huh? and other such can be sent to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Many questions (mostly Network)
Mike Patterson wrote: ... So my questions are: * Can I have two ne-2000 compatible cards in the same system? You can stop other drivers from probing i/o ports and tell them which port to use as well, so it doesn't have to be 2 ne2k's -- other cards will do, too. Some ne2k's have to be initially set up using DOS software, btw. * assuming the gateway can pump data extremely fast, will I be losing a ton of permformance by going from 10baseT to thin BNC? Why? Thinwire is 10base2, still 10Mbps. In other words, should I switch my whole system to 10BaseT instead? (Downloads are VIA satellite... That can be fast.) 10baseT will be easier to upgrade to 100/1000baseT later on. I don't think it matters in your case, but I may be wrong. 3) Ok, now let's say one of the A Machines is a Linux box that uses PPP to hook into a secure site (behind a firewall). Let's say (oh, for example) that everything behind the firewall is 15.19.*.*, and the machine is assigned an address for PPP that is in th 15.19 domain. What this machine would want to do is communicate with the PPP line for everything behind th firewall, and communicate with the fileserver/gateway for everything else -- I assume requiring it to look like a diffrent IP number for each (remembe r, the Server/Gateway will be using masquerading). So the question is, how can I do this and ensure that people on other machines in the network can 't get to the 15.19 domain? Assume that I'm the only one that can log onto t he Linux System I just described... (whew!) Well... sounds like a box with 2 network i/faces -- the fact that one of them is a ppp link, not a 2nd network card doesn't make much difference. --- 4) I can't for the life of me figure out what the startup files are defined as or where they are defined (say, .login and .startup.x11 from my old dec days) Dot files (per-user config) are in ~ or its subdirectories, system-wide files are in /etc and its subdirs. Is that what you're looking for? -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian
OK Dave, here's a fresh one for you: remember LiGNUx? Here's what made him do that: Note that FSF is the same kind of corporation, a non-profit with a 501(c)3. :) -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Please CC to me when replying to Usenet or a list -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Virtual memory problem?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I've successfully installed Debian Linux 1.3.1 before a few times, but now I've got a problem with a computer. So, I think it's not a problem of the distribution, nor the kernel. Maybe a problem of configuration, maybe a hardware problem, ... I don't know. It's both kernel and hardware. AFAIK the problem exists in all 2.0.x kernels, but it wasn't noticed until 2.0.30 (hint: don't upgrade to 2.0.30 ;) FWIW I can configure my box to produce Unable to handle paging request stack traces on 2.0.29, too. Try disabling PCI burst, increasing wait states, RAM timings, or whatever your BIOS allows you to do to slow down your box. Also, try making a custom bootdisk with kernel 2.0.27. Hope this helps -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au, if you're replying to --- a Usenet posting Avoid reality at all costs. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Dima wrote: Also, runlevels _are flexible. Nobody can force me to start networking daemons at RL 2 -- I can bloody well start them from ip-up when I ring my ISP, at whatever runlevel I happen to be then. (In practice I don't care: when I don't need networking daemons, they waste about $0.5 worth of my swap partition. Big deal). This is a different thing all together. What you are doing is saying that runlevels are not flexible enough to handle your networking daemon requirements, so you'r gonna do it manualy. You are just saying that they are flexible because you don't have to use them. What I meant was, let's say on my box I have runlevels 0 - 2 for powerdown (you're quite right about that not belonging in rl 5, btw), halt and reboot, rl 3 = single-user, 4 = multi-user and 5 = multi-user with xdm running. I'm not concerned with, e.g. networking daemons. A person configuring web/mail/newsserver would be concerned with the order in which daemons are started, and s/he would edit rls 4 - 6 accordingly. S/he doesn't care about xdm. On, say, a router programs running at rls 4 - 6 will be different again. What remains is the order in which various programs are started/killed; I think that can easily fit into a stack-like thingy (or a state machine, for that matter). We don't know which exactly various programs they'll happen to be on a given machine; we can, however, provide a reasonable, easy to modify default. Anyway, I'd prefer any (open would be nice) standard, as long as it's supported by at least 3 - 4 different unices. As long as it's not a single program group called startup... :) -- Dimitri --- By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment. By Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. (Solicited advertisements huh? and other such can be sent to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manoj Srivastava writes: *Nothing* has an S* in more than one level. A package is meant to be at a certain run level and higher. A level 3 package is started at run level 3, killed in run level 2, and at *no* other level. See how this works? Simple and elegant, but not very flexible. How about a state machine approach? Assuming runlevel is roughly equivalent to state, the above model is a stack of states. A state transition diagram would be a (potentially fully connected) graph of states. (Potentially) what a mess. :) Next question is how to define a state -- 6 basic states is what we have now. If we want more states (finer grain) our graph becomes messier. Also, runlevels _are flexible. Nobody can force me to start networking daemons at RL 2 -- I can bloody well start them from ip-up when I ring my ISP, at whatever runlevel I happen to be then. (In practice I don't care: when I don't need networking daemons, they waste about $0.5 worth of my swap partition. Big deal). If you let user similarly customize the states, you _will end up with a fully connected graph for STD -- definitely a mess. (One program implementing a complex state machine is sendmail, BTW.) Stack is a much simpler structure -- easier to implement, less bugs etc. Besides, it's almost there already. -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au, if you're replying to --- a Usenet posting Avoid reality at all costs. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Qmail ./qmail-config does not work! hard error???
David M wrote: Hello guys, more surprises! ;) Everything compiled ok but when I got to step 7 there is a hard error message when the ./qmail-config script tries to run ./dnsfq hostname. It reports hard error! Have any of you qmail installed on Debian? Did you encounter this problem? If so how to go about fixing it? I am also somewaht confused on the impact of installing a non-package program into the filesystem doing things manually...? Well, why not use the *.deb package from project/experimental then? Anyway, IIRC qmail-config tries to create file /var/qmail/control/me that contains eris.dev.null on my box -- use vi and put your fqdn there. (I think it's in the docs actually.) HTH -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au, if you're replying to --- a Usenet posting Avoid reality at all costs. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: [ ... ] ... I always used to think it was me who didn't get it. I customized one runlevel to run without xdm. I used this runlevel to upgrade XFree86, so that if anything screwed up, I would not have xdm continously restarting a bogus X setup. This can be very annoying and very hard to escape, I know from experience. However, after the configuration script is done, it starts xdm as if no runlevels exist (I guess it only checks /etc/X11/config). I agree fully that a proper implementation of sysvr4 would be a Good Thing. Ditto. I always wandered why there are all those redundant links in rc?.d dirs, and why I can't easily make a runlevel for xdm I used to have in Slack. -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au, if you're replying to --- a Usenet posting Avoid reality at all costs. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Using procmail to filter and MH to read.
Peter S Galbraith wrote: Looking for advice here... Suppose I use procmail as my delivery agent (instead of deliver) and MH (actually mh-e in Emacs) to read mail. What do people do to separate out (filter) the Debian mailing? Do you use a new sendmail ruleset? Or some /etc/procmail or ~/.procmailrc file? Put the following in your ~/.procmailrc: :0:$MAILDIR/debian-user/.mh_sequences.$LOCKEXT * ^FROMdebian-user.* | /usr/lib/mh/rcvstore +debian-user HTH -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Mirrors and copulation are abominable because they multiply entities (corollary to Occam's Razor) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: .deb file corruption?
Dave Neuer wrote: ... BTW, I can't get the Linux box connected via Ethernet (no drivers) or modem (can't seem to find modem, and can't transfer any communications programs like minicom to the Linux box to test for the modem). By default only 2 serial ports are configured. Edit /etc/rc.boot/0setserial and uncomment apropriate line for your modem -- should be easy as the script is well commented. However, you do need to know which port and IRQ your modem uses. You may have to open the box and have a look at the modem to see how jumpers/switches are set. If serial driver is loaded cat /proc/ioports will show you I/O ports currently configured, something like ... 02f8 - 02ff : serial (set) 03f8 - 03ff : serial (set) ... BTW, cat /proc/interrupts will show you IRQs currently in use. The gotcha is that if serial driver is demand-loaded, when serial ports haven't been in use the driver gets removed from memory, and the above will not show serial ports. Run setserial first to load the driver. That is assuming serial driver was luckier than ethernet and mouse drivers and it is installed. HTH -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Mirrors and copulation are abominable because they multiply entities (corollary to Occam's Razor) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Driver installation problems
Rob Browning wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The modem in the PC is an ISA card modem. Will this map to one of the /dev/ ttyS's? Rember, I'm primarily a Mac person, so I don't know an IRQ from my left knee, and to me an I/O address is a place one one of the moons of Jupiter that the postman delivers mail to. ... What you'd really like is something like this: /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) /dev/ttyS2 at 0x0??? (irq = 5) is a 16550A (spd_vhi) Hopefully your modem is smart enough to have jumpers or dip switches selecting COM port and IRQ. Selecting COM3 and IRQ5 should give you this from setserial: /dev/ttyS2 at 0x03e8 (irq = 5) is a [8250|16450|16550A] There are couple of gotchas, though. Hopefully you won't run into them... I'll download the software directly that way. In the meantime, anyone else have any ideas? I could use MacGZip to gzip the .deb files and transfer them on a PC-formatted floppy, but would I get much compression, or are the files already compressed to the max? .deb files are already compressed, so you'd be wasting your time. Disk images, however, will probably compress. Get gzip.exe for DOS to uncompress them and you'll be able to use 1.44 floppies. I think nobody had can't find misc.o problems with 1.44 floppies recently. -- Dimitri reply to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au --- What color is a chameleon on a mirror? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Use Joystick to reboot.
Linh Dang wrote: I remember having seen somewhere that you can use the joystick to make a cl= ean reboot. That's handy when X freezes and your keyboard and mouse get stuck. = Any info, pointer ? Did you try searching on sunsite or tsx-11? It's been a while since I last heard about that program. Anyway, you can grab joystick source package and modify included test program to do a system(telinit 6) when a button's pressed. And a sleep(5) between checks -- ugly, but it'll work. -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Objects in the mirror appear further then they are (etched on a rear view mirror of a Mitsubishi Mirage) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How I fixed my trashed Debian system
Rick Macdonald wrote: OK. If this helps just one person I think it's worth typing up. I welcome any suggestions of things I may have missed fixing or cleaning up. My system has been up-to-date with unstable for over a year and a half without problems. I stopped making updates a few weeks ago when Bruce said that it wasn't in a working state due to the ongoing conversion to libc6. ... FWIW, my box has been in sync with unstable since [never released] debian-1.0 and it still is, including libc6-dev stuff. At the moment you need to put 3 packages on hold for this to work: libc5-5.4.33-[3], locales, libgdbm1. I think you can't install libgdbmg1 without upgrading libgdbm1 first, so this has to go, too. (I was able to fix my box by manually downgrading the 2 libraries. Note that I was upgrading only a handful of packages, so it didn't exactly look like all hell broke loose; the box worked except for perl.) As usual, this works for me, YMMV. Hope this helps somebody. -- Dimitri reply to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au --- What color is a chameleon on a mirror? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ICQ
Stefan Berndtsson wrote: Dima [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me that what you're really looking for is an add-on to -- IRC seems to be the best candidate -- a protocol that would allow a person joining the channel/network send their ID (eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to the server. ... Uhh.. what do you think the client DOES send to the server when signing on? nickname, username, hostname, servername (of the server they connect to) and their so called Realname, which is a text they can pick on their own. Well, I guess I didn't mean _just_ that. Remember, we may want to send some data via ftp or start a talk, or whatever else that icq thing does. So that should be a block of information such as whether I accept ftp connections, talk requests, what else. I may not want that kind of info be readily available to anyone, so I want encryption and some kind of authentication -- ftp bit may include username password. Then, why not throw in something like rexec or ORB, or at least leave room for that -- we're talking about integrated services thingy. Also, I'm on a dial-up connection, so my hostname may not resolve -- and my ip address may well be different next time I sign on. That could be stored in the Realname I suppose, as long as everyone agrees on the format. I guess icq also keeps my e-mail address while I'm off-line, but I don't see why that can't be done by the client. Anyway, it's just my $.05 worth. -- Dimitri if replying to a Usenet posting, reply to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au The views expressed above (hereafter, views) are mine and ownership remains with me. They are provided as is without expressed or implied warranty of any kind, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of the suitability of the views for any purpose. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ICQ
Travis Cole wrote: ... Have him run a finger daemon on the Win95. I think those already exist; at least I've heard of one. (I don't use Win95, so I don't know for sure... But fingerd is easy to write.) I will have to look for that. But I will run into that dynamic IP problem. It seems to me that what you're really looking for is an add-on to -- IRC seems to be the best candidate -- a protocol that would allow a person joining the channel/network send their ID (eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to the server. Interested parties can now retrieve it and start ftp/talk/whatever. Of course you'd ideally want an integrated client that spawns all those when needed, but that can come later. Difficult part is figuring out the protocol -- how IDs propagate, how to make it secure etc. -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list
Alex Yukhimets wrote: It's getting kind of loud here. I've been thinking of splitting the debian-user list into several lists: debian-user: user discussion debian-install: installation problems debian-novice: newbies are intimidated by other lists, so here's one of their own. And who's gonna answer their questions? I don't think many maintainers will sign for this list. Well, whoever maintains bootdisks, Installation-HOWTO (?) etc. would subscribe to debian-install I expect. I'm not sure about debian-novice, though. Perhaps something like debian-X, debian-networking, etc. instead? -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect wigged out and everything's seg-faulting!
Joe Emenaker wrote: ... Does anyone know of any other libraries Perl needs or what else could be making it segfault? Downgrading libgdbm1 to the version from stable fixed it for me -- I purged libgdm1 and libgdbmg1 manually first. YMMV. You really can't use dpkg until you fix perl because [at least] half of the *install scripts call Perl scripts, eg. things like install-info. Methinks I should subscribe to developers list and post there -- IMO this is something developers should keep in mind. HTH -- Dimirti my real address is emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- If Jesus was Jewish, why did he have a Puerto-Rican name? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Minimizing Mail Packages?
Buddha Buck wrote: ... With the exception of qmail instead of exim, your mail packages are identical to mine. I also have procmail installed, but I haven't converted my slocal setup to procmail yet, so I'm not actually -using- procmail. Put | preline procmail in your ~.qmail and :0:$MAILDIR/inbox/.mh_sequences.$LOCKEXT * ^TOwhatever | /usr/lib/mh/rcvstore +inbox in ~.procmailrc. Procmail can deliver to inbox directly, but it won't update mh's unseen-sequence. Rcvstore doesn't lock .mh_sequences and can mess it up if procmail spawns several rcvstores to one folder. And ways to inc = none in exmh. Just a side note... -- Dimirti my real address is emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- If Jesus was Jewish, why did he have a Puerto-Rican name? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Host/nslookup, sendmail, bash
Tessa Lau wrote: On Sunday, Steve Hsieh mumbled: I don't know the answer to this...but did you try removing your domain entry from your resolv.conf file to see if that made a difference (so that there are only nameserver lines and a search line)? I don't have a domain entry in my resolv.conf: search cs.washington.edu washington.edu edu nameserver 128.95.1.4 order hosts, bind Are there any other ideas? :-) dpkg --purge sendmail; dpkg -i qmail_1.00-2.deb (qmail is in project/experimental). As for netscrape, IIRC netscape installer package fixes some of the problems. It is in contrib; you have to place original tar.gz from netscape into /tmp in order to install. Alternative is to unpack it somewhere using dpkg -x package target_dir, look at the contents and modify your netscrape setup accordingly. Hopefully that'll cure it. HTH -- Dimitri reply to emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- What color is a chameleon on a mirror? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: why kernel 2.0.29 in Debian 1.3.1?
Stefan Baums wrote: # insmod msdos /lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/msdos.o: unresolved symbol fat_get_entry_R1dbb54c9 ... [plus about twenty other unresolved symbol errors] Looks like you're using a wrong kernel. Did you compile it yourself? :) I've no problems with msdos module and 2.0.30 -- there shouldn't be any problems with modules that come with kernel source. My complaint about 2.0.30 is that couldn't get a free page stack trace I see every time I send my box swapping. -- Dimitri --- õ ÍÁÔÒÏÓÏ× ÎÅÔ ×ÏÐÒÏÓÏ×: Õ ÎÉÈ ÅÓÔØ ÍÎÏÇÏ ÐÁÐÉÒÏÓÏ×. ( nursery rhyme ) (the .sig is in KOI-8, unless someone stole high bits. Oh, and if you're replying to a Usenet article my e-mail is emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to fix ldso? Urgent.
joost witteveen wrote: ... i.e., mount and cp arn't bash internals. But cat is, so that's why I suggested the use of cat ... (Somehow I was sure cp was a builtin) cat isn't listed in the docs as a builtin either; type cat says cat is /bin/cat. Just curious -- Dimitri if replying to a Usenet posting, reply to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au The views expressed above (hereafter, views) are mine and ownership remains with me. They are provided as is without expressed or implied warranty of any kind, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of the suitability of the views for any purpose. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qmail?
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: ... However, how can I tell the Debian packaging system that I have an undebianized MTA? Many Debian packages depend on a message transfer agent, and just removing smail in favour of undebianized qmail will generate _lots_ of dependency problems. You can a) hit SHIFT+Q in dselect every time to override dependecies or b) install a dummy package that provides MTA. Search for messages about equivs package in the list archive. All binary distributions of qmail must be authorized. The same goes to modified source distributions. I am assuming that this is one reason for the fact that qmail is in experimental rather than in non-free. My impression was that it's in experimental because it has no license. At least when I last visited the website it hadn't -- there only was a page on how software should be free. None of my acquaintances and friends who use pirated MS software have been arrested. Just kidding. I assume debian is authorised to distribute a pre-compiled binary of qmail. As for modifications to the source, all I can see is a symlink from /var/qmail/control to /etc/qmail. In other words, I doubt that qmail package violates Bernstein's copyright. -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Mirrors and copulation are abominable because they multiply entities (corollary to Occam's Razor) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qmail? (was:Re: sendmail vs smail)
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: A related question: is there any chance of getting a Debianized distribution of qmail in the near future? A mere source could do. You can use a non-debianized version: the only difference is that Debian already have qmail users and groups in /etc/passwd /etc/group so you'll need to skip most of INSTALL.ids part of qmail setup. And you'll need to write a startup script. I know that there is qmail in project/experimental (at least my mirror has it), but I'd rather not use alpha software -- and I think I would be violating Dan's copyright if I were to use the experimental package, wouldn't I? I don't know about the copyright, or why using debianized qmail-1.0 in experimental would be different from using non-debianized qmail-1.0 wrt copy rites. I'm using it, and I've been using non-debianized qmail before Christian packaged it, and they haven't arrested me (yet). :) -- Dimitri --- By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment. By Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. (Solicited advertisements huh? and other such can be sent to emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Q: gcc and flex/bison ?
- Hi, anyone used flex bison lately? While compiling lex.yy.c gcc says parse error before yylval, which is defined in bison-generated header as extern YYSTYPE. Bison part fails with too many errors to list, YYSTYPE undeclared being one of them. The code in question used to compile -- half a year or so ago. Is there a magic word to make gcc work, or should I downgrade gcc to 2.7.2.1? (I'm running off hamm, except for libc6-dev and friends; dpkg -l gcc gives 2.7.2.2-4). Thanks -- Dimitri reply to emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- What color is a chameleon on a mirror? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Q: gcc and flex/bison ?
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: Have you linked with -ly. Is there a liby at all? The bison in bo (1.25-4) seems to be missing it altogether. Dunno, it doesn't get past 'gcc -c' stage. It looks like gcc doesn't understand extern anymore. As for liby, I don't seem to have either. FWIW, the code linked without it (no libl/libfl, either) -- when it linked. Thanks -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au, if you're replying to --- a Usenet posting Avoid reality at all costs. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: is awk working?
Dima wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If I use awk --re-interval, it should accept reg-expr like [0-9]{5} to mean
five numbers in row (a reg-expr definition of ZIP code?), but it doesn't.
...
Interval expressions ...
... are requested with this option, or when
--posix is specified.
Sorry: a follow up on my own, and incorrect, post. I forgot to clip
awk output in, and now that I re-run it I (finally :) got the message.
Eris:dima:~$ awk --posix '{ if($0 ~ /[1-9]{4}/) print $0; }' MICE
From - Wed Jun 25 04:08:57 1997
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 09:41:31 -0500
Eris:dima:~$ awk --re-intervals '{ if($0 ~ /[1-9]{4}/) print $0; }' MICE
Eris:dima:~$
(I used a wrong awk switch when I wrote that reply). It looks like bug
indeed, I suggest you report it.
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Re: is awk working?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm using an 'old' release of debian (1.1.13), and I'm happy with it. I found
out the other day that awk is not working the way its man page says.
If I use awk --re-interval, it should accept reg-expr like [0-9]{5} to mean
five numbers in row (a reg-expr definition of ZIP code?), but it doesn't.
It never matches things like 29100, instead matches 0{5} literaly. Am I
missing something or is it really broken?
From awk manpage:
--re-interval
Enable the use of interval expressions in regular
expression matching (see Regular Expressions,
below). Interval expressions were not tradition
ally available in the AWK language. The POSIX stan
dard added them, to make awk and egrep consistent
with each other. However, their use is likely to
break old AWK programs, so gawk only provides them
if they are requested with this option, or when
--posix is specified.
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Re: nobody is running find at too high a priority
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George Bonser writes: Ok, then why not adopt some default standard (Say PAP like windows does) that you MAY CHANGE but for newbies, asks them what the phone number is, what their password is and username and then sets the darned thing up to act like Win95 does on a PPP login so that any ISP that supports Windows DUN by default... Good idea. ditto I also still think that the install script should offer Dial up an ISP and use dynamic IP as a separate menu item. Selecting this would bring up a menu in which Would you like to set PPP up like Win95 DUN would be one of the choices. No, you're assuming that a user knows what dynamic IP is. They should be separate entries at top-level. ...this is about 100% of US providers... There are still plenty of ISP's out here using screwball arrangements. Well, even if only 50% of ISP's are Win'95-oriented this will still make ppp config easier for 50% of new users -- and that's about 50% better then what we have now. -- Dimitri reply to emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- What color is a chameleon on a mirror? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP connection problem
Lazar Fleysher wrote: Hi, I am trying to configure PPP... and after connection is established it hangs up in a short while. (I use MCI as internet provider ) The tail of messages file is: send (ATDT) Serial Connection established Using interface ppp0 Connect:ppp0--/dev/ttyS2 LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Connection terminated Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 _Most_likely_ cause is ppp not starting at the other end: a) you didn't tell it to in your chat script or b) remote server is slow. First of all pass debug option to pppd to see what's happening during login -- you should be able to figure out whether a) is true. It also helps to login manually once (use minicom) to find exactly what's your ISP's login sequence. If it's b) try silent or passive option to pppd, and/or try setting timeouts in your chat script (explained in pppd manpage). Link not 8-bit clean in this case means that your pppd is talking to command line prompt of the remote server, and it echoes everything back. HTH -- Dimitri --- õ ÍÁÔÒÏÓÏ× ÎÅÔ ×ÏÐÒÏÓÏ×: Õ ÎÉÈ ÅÓÔØ ÍÎÏÇÏ ÐÁÐÉÒÏÓÏ×. ( nursery rhyme ) (the .sig is in KOI-8, unless someone stole high bits. Oh, and if you're replying to a Usenet article my e-mail is emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: preferred way to build web sites?
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Hello ! I'm a happy Debian User and I live with unstable. I like Debian, because I can do everything very easy (killer apps for mail, web and so on). But I cannot find a good way to build web pages. How do you build web sites with Debian? Via SGML (with Emacs) or with simple vi? I need something like a meta-html, because I don't want to change links in all *.html, if I change the location of one file. Suggestions, anyone? Is there a Debian package of a good (text-based) HTML-editor? I use make and cpp. Depending on what pages are like, you can have a header, footer, sidebar etc. simply #include'd from separate files. Cpp's -D defines are also handy, except they don't work inside quoted strings (i.e. A href=DEFINED_URL doesn't work). :( Cpp also doesn't like unmatched apostrophes etc. (I think if I have to do more html, I'll write a specialized cpp replacement ...) I use jed to edit the stuff -- it does syntax highliting etc. I suspect nowadays vi does, too. It works quite well when you're making a large number of more or less standard pages. YMMV. Speaking of html, how does one use sgml tools to do dtd validation? -- is there a howto somewhere? -- Dimitri --- õ ÍÁÔÒÏÓÏ× ÎÅÔ ×ÏÐÒÏÓÏ×: Õ ÎÉÈ ÅÓÔØ ÍÎÏÇÏ ÐÁÐÉÒÏÓÏ×. ( nursery rhyme ) (the .sig is in KOI-8, unless someone stole high bits. Oh, and if you're replying to a Usenet article my e-mail is emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian Installation experience
Brandon Mitchell wrote: ... So you don't want your users (that is if you have any) to run perl scripts? Well why didn't you say so: chmod go-x /usr/bin/perl. This won't break dpkg, and since the system is down during upgrades (on a different kernel), there's no race condition. Or am I missing something? You can also install perl, dpkg and whatever on a partition that isn't even mounted during normal operation. Or you could pick a right tool for the job in the first place -- if UNIX protection model's too weak for your purposes, why use UNIX? I'm sure there are a few OS'es around that use decent protection schemes. (There's also a possibility of rewriting dpkg and everything else in Ada, of course.) -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: nobody is running find at too high a priority
m* wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim writes: I don't know debian well enough to know which process is running find at 7AM in the morning,... ... sounds like your system/cmos clock might be off an hour or so. anyone working at 7am needs a vacation... Why? -- that's when normal people fire up quake for a few minutes before logging off for the day. -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xauthority
BG Lim wrote: Installing Xfree3.3 form bo-updates gives me Xauthority as well. My question is, how do i use it to authorise other users to display on the same server? I know the xauth program is used but I have followed the instructions in the man page but still I can't get it to work. cd ~ xauth add :0 . `mcookie` xinit $clientargs -- $serverargs -auth .Xauthority if this is what you're asking about. xinit thinks any argument that is a path is the X server to run, so you need to have quotes around ~.Xauthority HTH -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mc problem - solved
Hi
1) Please disregard my previous posting with lots of Perl and stuff:
I was falling asleep when I posted that. I'm attaching a patch for
/usr/local/lib/mc/extfs/deb (or wherever it is on your box) below.
Note that the patch has Y2K bug, which leads me to
2) Is there a function in Perl to convert month from 2-digit MM to
3-letter Mon or do I have to roll my own?
---
Explanation: it seems that original scripts expects the date in
`dpkg-deb -c` output to be in either MM DD HH:MM YY or
Mon DD HH:MM format (not sure which) and it gets MM-DD-
instead. That breaks split() and consequently the rest.
mc needs date converted to either MM-DD-YY or Mon DD .
In the patch below I simply subtract 1900 from to get YY,
which is ugly. What I really need is to convert MM to Mon --
hence the question above.
When that's done I'll send the patch to mc team, meanwhile you can
try the following hack.
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--- deb.origFri Jul 4 05:31:31 1997
+++ deb Sun Jul 6 17:21:12 1997
@@ -34,8 +34,10 @@
{
while(PIPEIN)
{
-
($perm,$owgr,$size,$month,$day,$time,$year,$path,$arrow,$link,$link2)
+
($perm,$owgr,$size,$date,$time,$path,$arrow,$link,$link2)
= split;
+ ($year,$month,$day) = split(/-/,$date);
+ $year -= 1900;
$owgr=~s!/! !;
next if $path=~m!/$!;
if($arrow eq 'link')
@@ -49,7 +51,7 @@
$arrow=' ' . $arrow;
$link= ' ' . $link;
}
- print $perm 1 $owgr $size $month $day $year $time
CONTENTS/$path$arrow$link\n;
+ print $perm 1 $owgr $size $month-$day-$year $time
CONTENTS/$path$arrow$link\n;
}
}
}
Re: mc problem - solved
As Lindsay pointed out, the patch in my previous post will break *.deb viewer for those who have tar-1.11. Be very afraid and do `dpkg -l tar` before applying the patch. :) (patch works for tar-1.12-1) -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mc problem
Joost Kooij wrote:
... snip ...
Why does (amongst other keys) F3 not work in an xterm{-color} ?
It will if you patch your terminfo and X resources. IIRC the procedure
was explained somewhere in the docs for mc-3.xx.
Dimitri
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Re: mc problem - solved
Alex Yukhimets wrote:
How about:
$Mon=(Jan,Feb,Mar,Apr,May,Jun,Jul,Aug,Sep,Oct,Nov,Dec)[$mm-1] || bad_thing;
?
I did, patch's below. I'd rather use an existing function if there was one
-- must be a software engineer in me (типа внутренний шпион).
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Dimitri
--- deb.origSun Jul 6 22:32:52 1997
+++ deb Sun Jul 6 23:54:54 1997
@@ -34,8 +34,10 @@
{
while(PIPEIN)
{
-
($perm,$owgr,$size,$month,$day,$time,$year,$path,$arrow,$link,$link2)
+
($perm,$owgr,$size,$date,$time,$path,$arrow,$link,$link2)
= split;
+ ($year,$mon,$day) = split(/-/,$date);
+ $month =
(Gee,Jan,Feb,Mar,Apr,May,Jun,Jul,Aug,Sep,Oct,Nov,Dec)[$mon]
|| Gee;
$owgr=~s!/! !;
next if $path=~m!/$!;
if($arrow eq 'link')
Re: mc problem -- anyone speaks Perl out there?
Dale Scheetz wrote:
One posibility is that perl is somehow broken.
[Sorry, this is rather long-winded]
Ok, here's what happens (from MC_LIB/extfs/README):
... command should list the complete archive content in the following format
(a little modified ls -l listing):
AAA NNN DATETIME [PATH/]FILENAME [- [PATH/]FILEN
AME[/]]]
where (things in [] are optional):
AAA is the permission string like in ls -l
NNN is the number of links
is the owner (either UID or name)
is the group (either GID or name)
is the file size
FILENAME is the filename
PATH is the path from the archive's root without the leading slash (/)
... (about '- PATH' bit etc.)
Here's what MC_LIB/extfs/deb does:
...
print dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 0 $date CONTENTS\n;
print -r--r--r-- 1 root root $info_size $date INFO\n;
print -r-xr--r-- 1 root root $install_size $date INSTALL\n;
if ( open(PIPEIN, dpkg-deb -c $archivename |) )
{
while(PIPEIN)
{
($perm,$owgr,$size,$month,$day,$time,$year,$path,$arrow,$link,$link2)
= split;
...
# a bit of magic here, and
print $perm 1 $owgr $size $month $day $year $time
CONTENTS/$path$arrow$link\n;
# reformatted by mh, sorry
}
}
Here's what it outputs:
$ ./deb list perlmagick_1.12-1.deb | less
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jul 06 1997 04:29 CONTENTS
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 940 Jul 06 1997 04:29 INFO
-r-xr--r-- 1 root root 515 Jul 06 1997 04:29 INSTALL
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 1997-06-22 09:17 ./ CONTENTS/
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 1997-06-22 09:17 usr/ CONTENTS/
... etc. Note this ^^
It is my impression that it should show
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 1997-06-22 09:17 CONTENTS/usr/
I don't know enough Perl to work out wtf's going on. Any suggestions,
anyone?
Dimitri
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Re: mc problem
David Puryear wrote:
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindsay Allen) wrote:
I am nearly certain that, some time back, I could put the cursor (in mc)
over a .deb file, press Enter and find myself inside the package. I ca
n
do it right now on .tar.gz files, but with .deb files it shows a
directory OTHER with a filesize of 0.
In your /etc/mc/mc.ext you should have these:
# deb
regex/\.deb$
Open=%cd deb:%d/%p/
View=%view{ascii} dpkg-deb -c %f
^^^
Thanks. Using '%f' is recommended, tho'.
It enables you to view contents on F3, but it's not what Lindsay asked
about. That is done by /usr/local/lib/mc/extfs/deb -- it's a Perl script
and I can't see anything wrong with it (I don't know much about Perl tho'.)
I guess either *.deb format has changed since it was written or the problem
is with Perl.
FWIW I've perl-5.004-2 here, and *.deb browser doesn't work for me.
Dimitri.
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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure FIPS does a good job for a one off re-size of a partition, but I've never used it, so I wouldn't like to comment. I've used FIPS some a couple of years ago - I really liked what it can do. However, the is one caveat - when shrinking a partition with a FAT file system, remember that the cluster size is *not* going to change. IIRC FIPS also refuses(-ed?) to work on non-primary partitions, '95, NT partitions etc. Partition Magic OTOH does change cluster size and supports several partition types, including ext2 (as of PM 3.0) Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
Shaya Potter wrote: On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Dima wrote: Partition Magic OTOH does change cluster size and supports several partition types, including ext2 (as of PM 3.0) I don't think it support ext2, it just recognizes it. From checking their web pages, I don't see any mention of being able to resize an ext2 partition. I should've added IIRC -- I thought I've read somewhere that it does... (I have PM 2.03 here) Dimitri PS. please cc me when replying to the list :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: .gz ??? what, how?
John Foster wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote: This is not readable by an editor. Is there something special about th e .gz?? snip (Funny how an non-Debian specific question still generates so many responses on this list!) Not really. What we have here is a real problem for the newbies. To access the documentation you really need to be able to access the documentation. Then you can determine what is (and isn't) a Debian specific issue. Having a system which can hold the newbies' hand till they can walk for themselves has probably never been a design goal for Debian, but I think that the user base is growing at such a rate that it could be time... Perhaps there should be a quick intro to gzip, zless and zcat in the opening scripts (just after the first dselect run?). Even better, a quick intro to mc (and make mc a standard admin package.) Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Spam filtering and mailagent
Paul Wade wrote: I have a problem in that spammers who got busted are trying for revenge by posting in usenet as [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. I am getting a lot of junk mail and complaints from people who can't read headers and see the obvious. I have 2 questions: 1) Where can I automatically redirect mail for Jena, Aleisha, etc.? I had thought of redirecting it all to a spamsite autoresponder since it all comes with reply-to addresses that are invalid or autoresponders. Does anyone have a favorite destination address? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) No, but whatever it is, it should be on your localhost -- so as to not waste any more bandwidth... 2) Is there an easy way in pine to change the From and Reply-to headers for a message or two? I want to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the few times I post anything. Consider [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- to stop spam at the source ... It will help to get even more of these people disconnected when they mail to such an address. OTOH you're right, of course: simply ignoring them doesn't make them go away. Sorry, can't help you with pine... -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problems with dosemu, fvwm95, xbase
>>Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: >Hi, > >I'm running Debian 1.3 with some packages from unstable (aka hamm), >eg. libc6, xfree 3.3 and several packages depending on it. I noticed >the following (minor) problems: > >1) DOSEmu >I installed DOSEmu 0.66.6 [ snip ] >DOSEmu complains about missing hdimage.first. After >copying hdimage to hdimage.first it works. Well, fdos seems to have problems >with lredir. I only get garbage on drive d: (which should actually be the >whole linux fs). Yup. Create an MS-DOS hdimage file and lredir will be fine. There is a nice script /usr/lib/dosemu/setup-hdimage that does it -- all you need is a dos partition/floppy. About hdimage.first -- this is a bug. Report it. Also, /etc/dosemu/conf tells dosemu what to use as boot drive (among the other things.) Edit it to point at your newly created hdimage. And there's also /etc/dosemu/users. All this is documented BTW. -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
quick exmh question
- Hi, horrified by how my last message looks in exmh-2.0g anyone knows what/where do I edit to change the font exmh uses to display text/enriched? -- it's not in on-line help and I thought I'd better ask before going through the fine manuals... Thanks -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: setting switching screen densities
stealth vram (#124), which is an S3. I've set it for 432 under 8 bits, and 32 under 16 (1mb vram). ^^^ Do you mean you have 1 Mb VRAM on the card? Then it can't do better then 800x600x16 bpp (800x600x2 / 1024^2 = 0.92 Mb.) -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: striping, etc.
Rick Hawkins wrote: wow, that was fast :) I've downloaded it, and read the docs. I compiled the kernel with support for these devices. They will go on a machine with 3 200m ide drives, which will be a poor-man's server. My current thinking is to mount / on the first controller, and use the other pair as /usr on the second interface. /usr will be NFS exported. Or would I be better off putting the two /usr drives on separate controllers? also, would I be better off combining all three? and finally, will linear or raid0 give be better performance on ide drives (i know the answer is raid0 on scsi). Put RAIDed disks on one controller and / and swap on another. Also, IIRC if disks on one controller support different modes, contoller will use the [s]lowest for both. So, if your disks aren't identical you might want to run a few tests on them (hdparm) first. Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Quantum Fireball EIDE uncooperative
Dan Hugo wrote: [ quantum fireball overheated ] I've an older fireball that did the same thing: overheat and pack up. I ended up putting a spare PS fan in the box (full towers have their pluses :) to cool it down -- that fixed it. (Spinning it down with hdparm also fixed it in linux; unfortunately it's my dos drive...) ... What is the likely cause for this? Quantum is the likely cause. In my case 2 WD drives directly above the fireball work just fine -- so it's not room temperature or air flow inside the box -- Quantum drives are s**tty, that's all. -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP with a dynamic address?
Dale Scheetz wrote: My ppp connection is to an ISP that is willing to provide me with a static IP address, allowing me to be the same address every time I connect. I have been asked by a friend to help set up his machine for ppp, but his ISP will only provide a dynamic IP address. I am a bit confused about how to deal with the entry in /etc/hosts. My /etc/hosts has 127.0.0.1 localhost 0.0.0.0 my.Faked.Qualified.Domain.Name :) Works for me. -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?
joost witteveen wrote: ... :0 exec /usr/local/bin/check_sender /dev/null (where /usr/local/bin/check_sender would be started with the current email as stdin, and if check_sender returns true (0), mail would be saved in /dev/null (or another file -- probably /dev/null doesn't work as procmail cannot really lock that file, I guess).) 1) :0: or :0:/dev/null.lock would try to lock the file, :0 shouldn't. 2) isn't it ? /usr/local/bin/check_sender (hint, hint.) -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: After Install: crc error -- rescue disk broken?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... loading linux ... uncompressing Linux ... [there was nothing like Done] crc error --system halted Same here. It seems that current rescue disk is broken (I tried 2 flopies, checked 'em with ndd etc.) -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Easy way to switch from RedHat to Debian?
Anthony Campbell wrote: ... I REALLY don't what to start a flame war : ) ... then cancel your posting ... but I'd like to know why people would want to do this... Because they want to. People are free to switch from RH to Debian whenever they want (errm, not sure about the other way round though ;-) BTW I'm not happy with Christoph's wording in his c.o.l.d.s. post: how to _upgrade_ to Debian. It sounded like a flamebait, and it's not Debian policy to say (imply) bad things about RH, as Bruce says. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Vid card memory
Ralph Winslow wrote: ... Did you try 24/32 bpp? Yes, I got them by default, but CTRLALT+ and CTRLALT- (+ and - on numeric keypad) don't seem to be working. They only switch screen resolutions, not colour depth. Colour depth is in /etc/XF86Config -- by default it's 8 bpp, unless 8 bpp entry is not present (in section Screen, subsection Display. Ways to start X in a given colour depth: `startx -- -bpp N`, DefaultColorDepth N entry in section Screen outside any Display subsections, or having a single Display subsection with Depth N.) Which README are you referring to? Any way, thanks for the reply - I'll try to research what linear addressing is and how to specify it and let you know how trying that works out. Why, /usr/doc/X11/README.trident of course. :-) As for linear addressing, PCI cards don't require that option. If yours is not PCI, then it may work for you (or not -- read the file, it also lists a number of interesting problems with non-PCI cards.) HTH -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: trouble with MH
Ken Lauffenburger wrote: Hello, I sent this message several days ago, but saw no responses so I'm suspecting I mailed it improperly. If the original message was posted, then sorry for the double post. I've seen it several days ago -- probably nobody knows the answer. :-( Perhaps try mh mailing list (is there one?) or Usenet? The problem is that I get the following error message when I try to send a message using MH: post: problem initializing server; [BHST] premature end-of-file on socket send: message not delivered to anyone I feel its just a matter of configuration. Any suggestions? FWIW all the configuration I've done in mh was to change path to maildir in ~/.mh_profile. I did about as much config for qmail (I have qmail for MTA, also debian package) and everything worked. Any suggestions? Yeah... UTSL... Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Vid card memory
Ralph Winslow wrote: I've recently added a 1Mb memory module to my Trident TGUi 9440 vid card, giving a totla of 2Mb. I'd done this with the expectation that I could then use 600x800x2 (16-bit color = 2 bytes) = 96 which is 1Mb. But when I try this (forcing 600x800 in XF86Config) X tries to start and dies over and over (I must reboot from floppy). Now my thinking is that 1Mb means 1MegaBit, so 600x800x16 = 7.68 Mbits thus no joy. Have I finally got it right? TIA for any light you all might add to the heat of my fevered brain. Horiz.Resolution * Vert.Res. gives you number of pixels on your screen. That times BYTES per pixel is VRAM requirements in BYTES. That divided by 1024 and rounded up is VRAM in Kbytes. 7.68 Mbits / 8 / 1024 = 938 Kbytes. 96/1024 = guess what. :-) (What I really don't understand is why VideoModes.[doc,html] was not included in xbase v.3.2 package.) Are you sure 9440 works in 16 bpp? Did you try 24/32 bpp? Is VRAM recognized (look at X startup messages)? Did you read the README (in particular, do you need to specify linear addressing)? -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian 1.3 Release FAQ - Preliminary
Jim Pick wrote: I've never done this myself (setting up PPP from just the base system). Does anyone have a no-fail recipe for doing this that would be suitable for the FAQ? Probably not -- because there are 2 possible easy setups (pap chap) and lots of difficult ones (text logins.) E.g. for the account I'm posting from it is login to terminal server rlogin to sun box (was done via a menu at one stage) start slirp in ppp mode I think you should refer them to ISP-hookup HOWTO and add debian-specific info: pon, poff, /etc/ppp.options_out and /etc/ppp.chatscript (sorry I can't be of much help here -- of these I'm only using poff.) Rgds -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au if you're replying to --- a Usenet posting Avoid reality at all costs. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Security: logging
Matthew Tebbens wrote:
I'm using xinetd(xinetd.conf).
In xinetd.conf I have the following defaults for all services:
defaults
{
log_type= SYSLOG daemon
log_on_success = PID HOST EXIT DURATION
log_on_failure = HOST ATTEMPT RECORD
}
Can I also specify another log for telnet, ftp, rlogin ?
So everything would be logged through SYSLOG, and services like those
above would be SYSLOG'ed AND logged in a seperate file. This way I would
feel better about catching any hacker.
Sorry to rtmf, but `man 5 xinetd.conf` will tell you all you need.
In a nutshell:
you can supply the entries above for each supported service,
you can specify syslog facility and level for log_type,
log_on* assignments are cumulative, i.e. what you define for a
service is added to default assignments above.
HTH
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Re: gpm and X or not?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... With this config, gpm creates pseudo mouse data on /dev/gpmdata. Then I have /dev/mouse linked to /dev/gpmdata, and I can point all other programs (X, dosemu, etc) to /dev/mouse (configured as mouse systems). My mouse is configured like that and I found that occasionally gpm produces spurious middle-button clicks in X. I wonder if others have this problem too, or is it just me. -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Security: logging
I wrote: Sorry to rtmf, but `man 5 xinetd.conf` will tell you all you need. Oops, a typo ^ -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HTML in email
Brian White wrote: I read my mail with pine. Occasionally I get mail from this list and from others that has HTML markup embedded within it. What causes this? Netscape, for one. It sends mail/news as html by default (and of course i t won't tell you that.) Actually, it's communicator 4.0 (beta) that does that. The older versions of netscape don't. You can also turn this feature off from the preference s menu ... after someone's flamed you for sending html. After that you may notice that formatting toolbar's gone. I wonder if it's an oversight on Netscrape's part -- obviously, the right thing to do was to make text mode the default -- or a [pitiful] attempt at MS marketing strategies. :-) -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HTML in email
Civ Kevin F. Havener wrote: A sort of novice question: I read my mail with pine. Occasionally I get mail from this list and from others that has HTML markup embedded within it. What causes this? Netscape, for one. It sends mail/news as html by default (and of course it won't tell you that.) Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I have a problem...
Hi Gabriele, although I don't own a cdrom drive with a proprietary interface I think that the key might be to give the coordinates of the drive (i.e. io port and interrupt) at boot time. Unfortunately I lack the knowledge to be more precisely. Perhaps someone else can shed more light on this!?! Using a valid Reply-To address also helps: here's a message that's been sitting in my mail queue for couple of days (apologies for sending a long blurb to the list.) begin bounced message -- Hi, did you try sbpcd driver? -- It should work with your cd-rom I think. When installation script asks you which kernel modules to load, select sbpcd module. You may need to do a few extra things to make it work: a) your AWE is a P'n'P card and may need to be configured first, b) you need to pass some parameters to sbpcd driver, eg. i/o port and irq. I'm attaching the readme for sbpcd module. Also, quick web search came up with this: news://it.comp.linux news://it.comp.linux.setup http://www.nllgg.nl/lugww/IT.html -- list of Italian Linux User's Groups Hope this helps -- Dimitri --- This README belongs to release 4.2 or newer of the SoundBlaster Pro (Matsushita, Kotobuki, Panasonic, CreativeLabs, Longshine and Teac) CD-ROM driver for Linux. sbpcd really, really is NOT for ANY IDE/ATAPI drive! Not even if you have an original SoundBlaster card with an IDE interface! So, you better have a look into README.ide if your port address is 0x1F0, 0x170, 0x1E8, 0x168 or similar. I get tons of mails from IDE/ATAPI drive users - I really can't continue any more to answer them all. So, if your drive/interface information sheets mention IDE (primary, secondary, tertiary, quaternary) and the DOS driver invoking line within your CONFIG.SYS is using an address below 0x230: DON'T ROB MY LAST NERVE - jumper your interface to address 0x170 and IRQ 15 (that is the secondary IDE configuration), set your drive to master and use ide-cd as your driver. If you do not have a second IDE hard disk, use the LILO commands hdb=noprobe hdc=cdrom and get lucky. To make it fully clear to you: if you mail me about IDE/ATAPI drive problems, my answer is above, and I simply will discard your mail, hoping to stop the flood and to find time to lead my 12-years old son towards happy computing. The driver is able to drive the whole family of traditional AT-style (that is NOT the new Enhanced IDE or ATAPI drive standard) Matsushita, Kotobuki, Panasonic drives, sometimes labelled as CreativeLabs. The well-known drives are CR-521, CR-522, CR-523, CR-562, CR-563. CR-574 is an IDE/ATAPI drive. The Longshine LCS-7260 is a double-speed drive which uses the old Matsushita command set. It is supported - with help by Serge Robyns. Vertos (Elitegroup Computer Systems, ECS) has a similar drive - support has started; come in contact if you have such a Vertos 100 or ECS-AT drive. There exists an IBM External ISA CD-ROM Drive which in fact is a CR-563 with a special controller board. This drive is supported (the interface is of the LaserMate type), and it is possibly the best buy today (cheaper than an internal drive, and you can use it as an internal, too - f.e. plug it into a soundcard). CreativeLabs has a new drive CD200 and a similar drive CD200F. The latter is made by Funai and sometimes named E2550UA, newer models may be named MK4015. The CD200F drives should fully work. CD200 drives without F are still giving problems: drive detection and playing audio should work, data access will result in errors. I need qualified feedback about the bugs within the data functions or a drive (I never saw a CD200). The quad-speed Teac CD-55A drive is supported, but still does not reach full speed. The data rate already reaches 500 kB/sec if you set SBP_BUFFER_FRAMES to 64 (it is not recommended to do that for normal file access usage, but it can speed up things a lot if you use something like dd to read from the drive; I use it for verifying self-written CDs this way). The drive itself is able to deliver 600 kB/sec, so this has to get a point of work; with the normal setup, the performance currently is not even as good as double-speed. This driver is NOT for Mitsumi or Sony or Aztech or Philips or XXX drives, and again: this driver is in no way usable for any IDE/ATAPI drive. If you think your drive should work and it doesn't: send me the DOS driver for your beast (gzipped + uuencoded) and your CONFIG.SYS if you want to ask me for help, and include an original log message excerpt, and try to give all information a complete idiot needs to understand your hassle already with your first mail. And if you want to say as I have mailed you before, be sure that I don't remember your case by such remarks; at the moment, I have some hundreds open correspondences about Linux CDROM questions (hope to reduce if the IDE/ATAPI user questions disappear). This driver will work with the soundcard interfaces (SB Pro, SB 16, Galaxy,
Re: ELF header message with modutils 2.1.34
You wrote: I just upgraded to modutils 2.1.34, hoping it would correctly analyze the dependencies of my /lib/modules/misc directory (for example); instead depmod -a gives me modprobe: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory if the misc directory (from the kernel version, ie path[misc]=/lib/modules/`uname -r` It's becoming a FAQ: remove all text files from module directories. Specifically, *_MODULES, and don't forget those in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc. HTH -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help with diald/ppp!!!
You wrote: ... When I got all of my option files and connect script in place, I tried it. It has been failing miserably. Q.1. Can you connect with 'pon'? If yes, the problem would be in diald/pppd interaction, else it's in the chatscript. I don't use diald, but I remember that with it you don't specify some of the ppp options -- you pass them to diald instead. I'm sure someone will give you more info on that. May 14 00:30:12 whitehouselocal chat[657]: send (ppp^M) May 14 00:30:12 whitehouselocal diald[387]: Running pppd (pid =3D 658). May 14 00:30:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal diald[387]: pppd startup timed out. Check your pppd options. Killing pppd. Well, here's something about options. Without diald this output would suggest that remote ppp is not starting. Usual fixes for that are passive or silent options to pppd (see manpage.) With diald -- I dunno. HTH -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installationreport 1.3 (Not really, just some remarks)
You wrote: ... Another strange thing I noticed after the upgrade was that, while booting, syslogd takes pretty long to come up (about 5 - 10 s). (That is after 'syslogd' has been printed on the screen it takes at least that amount of time until something happens and 'klogd' is printed. Any idea what the reason could be? It's a temporary fix for something or other -- can't remember what -- :-) the explanation should be in the list archives. Dimitri. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Lyx: Where is Xforms? etc
You wrote: Well, it seems that the current Lyx package is still looking for Xforms, not Xforms0. As I said in my original message, I already installed Xforms0 but Lyx insists in having Xforms. Given that Xforms0 is already installed, is there a way to force dpkg to configure Lyx? (I tried --force-configure-any but it didn't work). Try `dpkg --force-help | more' for options re dependencies. While we're at it, can Lyx depend on tex | sgml-tools, not just tex? Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncsa ServerName problem (fwd)
You wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- A colleague of mine is having some trouble installing ncsa on a dialup debian machine to use for dwww. Given it is a dialup machine and therefore has no valid DNS entry, how can he get around this? Any help is gratefully appreciated. Cheers, Colin. In my /etc/ncsa/httpd.conf ServerName line is simply commented out. Works for me (I don't have dwww here though.) -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: GIF for KDE
You wrote: Rick Jones: Yes. I saw the posting to the kde list by Alan Cox, I believe it was. I wonder if you, or another Debianite, could tell me just how easy it would be to attach to a tcp port and send/recv commands to take advantage of that security hole? I know a programmer would have no trouble exploiting this. What about the common Joe? All it takes is one cracker who writes an exploit script for it. I have no idea how easy it is to do, though Alan gave the impression it was trival.. It's in any book on unix network programming (in Stevens it's in chapter 6.) I'm not familiar with KDE but I suspect it'll crash if you simply stuff enough random bytes in the socket (see ch. 6.6 op. cit. for code.) You'd need to look at KDE sources if you wanted to do something nastier. However, as Rick says, all it takes is one cracker. -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is this a bad, bad sign? (harddisk problem?)
You wrote: Would that include the SB16 software configureable card? What used to be called PNP by some. Mine is a ESS, and Intel's pnptool won't configure it either, if that's what you mean. I run its config utility from dos and then use loadlin to boot linux. In my case the problem went away after I commented out the card's init program in config.sys. I knew I didn't have an irq/port conflict, even though the message was about irq timeout, so the only option left was changing the dma. It worked. :-) (check /proc/ioports, /proc/interrupts, /proc/pci etc. for ports, irqs etc used by your hardware -- disable SB first.) -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Newbie Debian + X Questions
You wrote: ... But everytime I start X I'm stuck with the 1284 mode and I want to use the 1024*768 mode. 1. CTRL+ALT+Grey+ switches X to next videomode, CTRL+ALT+Grey- -- previous. 2. You can edit XF86Config by hand. Start X on one virtual console and 'ae /etc/X11/XF86Config' on another (ALT+F7 gives you default X console, CTRL+ALT+F[1-6] -- text consoles 1-6.) Run xvidtune, adjust the display and copy the numbers into appropriate Modelines in XF86Config. I'm sure you'll work out which numbers go where, if not -- ask. HTH -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: GIF for KDE
... However, as Rick says, all it takes is one cracker. ^^ Oops, I think I mixed my sources -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is this a bad, bad sign? (harddisk problem?)
You wrote:
On Sun, May 04, 1997 at 10:23:39PM +, Sam Ockman wrote:
...
hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
...
It could be just an incompatibility of some kind between your hard disk,
disk controller, and Linux, or something. Try disabling DMA; there
should be a boot parameter to do that (see the BootPrompt-HOWTO).
Speaking of incompatibilities, I had an irq request error (DriveReady
SeekComplete ...) after I added a 3rd hard drive. The problem turned
out to be with my PnP sound card, and the fix was to use DMA 3 for
sound (not 0 or 1.)
So, if you have any PnP devices -- check their settings, too.
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Re: Posting IP
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I'll be damned. If it was a snake it would have bit the shit out of me. I have skipped over that file I don't know how many times, thinking it was another connect script. It's a great place to run stuff like netdate and fetchmail/popclient from (ip-down is a good place to kill fetchmail BTW.) Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Posting IP
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] y ou wrote: What's the best way to extract a dynamic IP for emailing to a remote site. Have a look at /etc/ppp/ip-up. Local IP address is $4 to ip-up: echo $4 /wherever/MYIPADDRESS. HTH -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: depmod error reading ELF header
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Did you remove misc/NET_MISC_MODULES or whatever it is? Thanks. I overlooked this one. -- Dimitri emaziuk @ curtin.edu.au --- Avoid reality at all costs. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
