Re: Apt and NFS?
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 12:02:34PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way to do it is to use the kernel space NFS server, as it does support file locking and will allow programs like dpkg to work as intended. I *am* using the kernel NFS server, and it doesn't work. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will take the Ring, though i do not know the way. --Frodo Baggins pgpsFCRG1hqTP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: reccomended IMAP4 compadible server?
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 01:15:01PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: currently the job i work at uses the UW imap server(since its the default with redhat) i was curious if anyone had any ideas for a more robust IMAP server that co-operated well with qmail if posssible. I'm a fan of Courier IMAP myself. It only supports Maildirs, though, and for some strange reason not everyone has been convinced of their superiority. :) It works fine with qmail and postfix, and i suppose any other MTA that uses Maildirs. I use it with postfix, and have never used qmail, so i can't comment on that. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will take the Ring, though i do not know the way. --Frodo Baggins pgpXChCAMw2VC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Apt and NFS?
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 10:53:18PM -0800, Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try this program i found it in the BTS regarding mutt and NFS: It seems to have the same problem. # ./a.out /mnt/apt/foo fcntl()=-1, errno=9 -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will take the Ring, though i do not know the way. --Frodo Baggins pgpYCWOP8N8dV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [ot] dns questions
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 10:40:01PM -0400, Samuel Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to buy a domain name, and use one of my debian boxen as the primary DNS server for it. I'm already running a caching-only DNS server, and I've read about how to add a domain to bind. However, it seems like there's a catch-22 involved in the registration process. NSI wants me to already have a name server set up for the domain before I buy it. However, I thought I would have to own a domain before I added it to my name server. So how does one do this? First, Network Solutions sucks; don't deal with them. I buy my domains from gandi.net, and i have been very satisfied. They have very nice policies (for example, you actually own the domain), and they've very cheap. Second, you should have two name servers responding authoritatively for whatever.net before registering. That's OK even though you don't own them yet, because none of the root name servers point to yours yet. Also, I'm within a university network. Do you think the university net admins would have to do anything for me to get this set up? I guess I don't fully understand the system. *sigh* This was a violation of policy when i was in school, so you should check on that before registering. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will take the Ring, though i do not know the way. --Frodo Baggins pgpLrUU9S5SGR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Apt and NFS?
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 02:29:53PM -0500, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure you want to share /var/state/apt/lists? I'm just sharing /var/cache/apt on my boxen here. Quite sure. The Packages files are enormous and we're both tracking unstable over a dial-up link. IIRC, that's the problem that prompted me to mount /var/cache/apt nolock. Whether it was or not, I haven't had any problems with it since adding the nolock. That fixed it. Thanks! -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will take the Ring, though i do not know the way. --Frodo Baggins pgp6fejvDroL4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Apt and NFS?
My roommate and i are trying to share /var/cache/apt/archives and /var/state/apt/lists over NFS. I got it working with the user-space daemons, but running apt-get update gives the following error: W: Not using locking for nfs mounted lock file /var/state/apt/lists/lock W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these missing files I was able to dig up some old references on debian-user saying that you have to use the kernel-space NFS daemons, so i recompiled and switched to that. I stopped and removed the user-space daemons, and then mounted the filesystem. Same error. Any ideas? -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will take the Ring, though i do not know the way. --Frodo Baggins pgpoYb03nijhb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: why so hard to decline recommend packages dselect/apt
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 04:26:26PM -0800, Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally i just use apt-get as much as possible and dselect as little as possible. I agree, but sometimes it's nice to have that full-screen interface. That's why i *love* console-apt. It's so nice i use it for pretty much everything. I haven't used dselect in months. My only complaint with console-apt is that for some reason it won't upgrade all packages. For example, if i update the package listings and then tell console-apt to upgrade all packages, it will do that, but as soon as it's done i can run 'apt-get upgrade' and it will upgrade a few more packages. I don't understand why that happens, but it does. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I give food to the poor I am called a saint, when I ask why they go hungry I am called a communist --Bishop Helder Camara pgpywLvDWmvHr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mailbox Formates (was: Expiring mail)
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 01:26:49PM -0600, Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiosity, anyone ever seen any good documentation on the advantages/disadvantages (even if it's biased, since we're *ALL* biased...) of the different mailbox formats? In my experience, Maildir is best for spooling new messages and mbox is best for large message archives. 1000 messages in a Maildir isn't pretty :) Maildir is great for spooling because no locking is necessary, making it perfect for NFS. It's slower (on very large mailboxes only) because MUAs must stat every single file in the directory, which is quite slow. I use Postfix as MTA which hands messages off to maildrop, which drops messages into various Maildirs in ~/Maildir. I read these over IMAP with courier-imap. When a mailbox gets to be about 200 messages, i convert it to an mbox in my archive directory. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I give food to the poor I am called a saint, when I ask why they go hungry I am called a communist --Bishop Helder Camara pgpQFaQK7Iqki.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: maildir imap
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 01:45:57PM -0700,
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did this. Using mutt directly it works fine. But courier-imap does not
provide any mail. Trying with mutt I get an empty screen and the status line
says No mailbox. With worldpilot I cannot even connect. It just times out.
Are you using the {host}INBOX format? Try opening a connection
to the server yourself.
~$ telnet localhost 143
courier-imap's greeting stuff
Enter these commands:
A1 LOGIN name pass
A1 STATUS INBOX (unseen)
That should tell you how many new message are in the Inbox. Did
that work? If it did, it's a Mutt problem. Otherwise, the problem
is somewhere else. You can look in ~/Maildir/cur and
~/Maildir/new to see if there are any actual messages in there.
Do I need a subfolder at this stage? I take it it should work with just
Maildir, won't it?
No, you don't need subfolders; i was just demonstrating how to
use them.
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Re: maildir imap
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 02:53:11PM -0700, Dr. Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~$ telnet localhost 143 courier-imap's greeting stuff Enter these commands: A1 LOGIN name pass A1 STATUS INBOX (unseen) Now that helped me a bit. After typing my password I get Connection closed by foreign host. Sounds like an authentication problem. Here's my /etc/pam.d/imap: auth required pam_unix_auth.so account required pam_unix_acct.so password required pam_unix_passwd.so session required pam_unix_session.so Does yours look something like this? If this isn't the problem, then you have me stumped. Sorry. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I give food to the poor I am called a saint, when I ask why they go hungry I am called a communist --Bishop Helder Camara pgp1VfBhMQRcD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Fwd: Re: maildir imap [SOLVED]
This wasn't sent to the list, so i'm forwarding it in case someone else finds it useful. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I give food to the poor I am called a saint, when I ask why they go hungry I am called a communist --Bishop Helder Camara ---BeginMessage--- On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 08:06:58AM -0500, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote: Does yours look something like this? Exactly the same. I just removed all other modules from courier-imap and now it works. Thanks a lot. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael@Fam-Meskes.De Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL! ---End Message--- pgp4KAjoqUqmP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: maildir imap
On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 05:13:43PM -0700, Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install courier-imap on my server, so I can get some system in the way all the mails are stored. But I never used a maildir type mailbox before. However, I cannot find any sufficient docs. I know I have to configure procmail accordingly which was rather easy. Then I ran maildirmake.courier with several names. It worked since mutt was able to read the mail. But the imap server keeps telling me there is no mailbox. I'm using Postfix, Courier-imap, and Mutt successfully. You have to use 'maildirmake.courier Maildir' in the user's home directory, which will create ~/Maildir. This is the INBOX courier uses. Then, if you want to create sub-folders (for example, a sent box) use a command like this: ~$ maildirmake.courier-imap -f Sent Maildir This will create ~/Maildir/.Sent which you can access via IMAP as INBOX.Sent. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I give food to the poor I am called a saint, when I ask why they go hungry I am called a communist --Bishop Helder Camara pgpMtohT2hHiV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Lastest sawfish debs?
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 11:09:06PM +0800, Corey Popelier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats all good and well if you want to upgrade to helix gnome. What if you just want to run standard gnome, and use sawfish Helix GNOME is standard GNOME. GNOME itself no longer provides packages; that is left up to separate packaging projects (Debian, Red Hat, Helix) instead. The difference between the Debian and Helix packages is that the Helix packages are always more up to date because Peter Teichman (the Helix Debian guy) is paid to package GNOME for Debian, rather than doing it in his free time. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the metabolism of a dead turtle. --David Austin pgpeRZSupZ2tC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Quake2 debs?
Where can i find quake2 debs for unstable? I remember using debs once before, but i can't find any now (except for 2.0, which don't work). -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the metabolism of a dead turtle. --David Austin pgpMMsL2rWl0C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changinf from xinitrc to xsession
On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:55:52AM +0100, Mário Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having installed helix-gnome I am now running gdm. I used to do startx to run X. So i had a .xinitrc file. On this file i called the wm, gnome-sesion, etc, and i had the following command xset fp+ unix:/7001 so that i could use tt fonts. I know that i have to move this command to .xsession, have .xsession executable but still it produces no result, i.e., apparently xset is not run. How do i add this thing to .xsession, or how do i run this thing? If you're using the Gnome startup from GDM (not Debian or XSession), it will start gnome-session for you and will not read ~/.xsession. However, it will source ~/.gnomerc. So you can put your xset command there. Don't put your window manager in ~/.gnomerc either; gnome-session will start that for you, and you can select a different window manager in the control center. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. --RFC 1925 pgpMMOWmNj7uK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Postfix troubles
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 08:36:21PM -0400, S.Salman Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having some problems with Postfix. I added the following lines to /etc/postfix/main.cf after reading the Postfix FAQ esp. the Dialup section: relayhost = smtp.pathcom.com delay_warning_time = 4 With this configuration change, I can send email to non-local address without any problems. Also, I am able to send email to my local account (ie [EMAIL PROTECTED]). However, I can't seem to send email to the root user locally. Whenever I try, Postfix relays email for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to my ISP's smtp server which bounces it back to me. I also have to use a dialup account, and the only changes i made to the default Postfix configuration were the following lines: relayhost = mail.netdoor.com home_mailbox = Maildir/ The first line is related to the dialup link, and the second is for Maildirs. With this setup, i am able to send mail to root without problems. Do you have an alias for root in /etc/aliases? -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. --RFC 1925 pgpAsmT5DHSDD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: postfix help
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 01:31:25PM +0200, Joachim Trinkwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about poor guys who don't have a valid hostname (dynamic IP) and, There's no such animal. I mentioned DynDNS in my post, and i'm mentioning it again. It's a free service that will give you a valid domain name which can be updated everytime you're IP is reassigned. Works great for those of us stuck on dialup links. moreover, have another username at the ISP as on their own computer? I'm not really sure how that could be a problem. Just set your email address properly in the MUA. That's all i had to do for my wife's account (whose ISP username is different from local usrname), and everything works fine. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. --RFC 1925 pgpcw1Fdd9QWY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: postfix help
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 06:55:01PM -0500, Dave Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I managed to get postfix on my machine and exim off, but I could use a hand configuring postfix. Even though a little config script hasn't been written for postscript (like they have for smail and exim), it's simple to set it up for a dial-up machine. If your computer has a valid hostname (for example, you've registered with DynDNS or a similar service), then you might want to set the myorigin variable to your fully qualified domain name, and use your email program to set the proper From: header (more below). Add the following lines to the bottom of /etc/postfix/main.cf: myorigin = your fqdn # /etc/mailname should contain the same name relayhost = your ISP's mail server That's it! bash-2.04$ cat .fetchmailrc poll pop.mindsprind.com protocol POP3 username batemand is dsb password xxx fetchall This looks okay. Have you tested it? Same question about mutt, will it work w/ postfix/fetchmail? edit .muttrc? It will work fine with fetchmail and postfix without any changes to the configuration, though you will almost certainly want to configure some things to behave the way you want rather than the way the maintainer wants. Seems like a-lot of work compared to netscrape, but then, when X goes down and your only help is this mail-list...well, you get the point. Not nearly as hard as it looks :). -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. --RFC 1925 pgpT6SbVoudUs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Will Debian run on my system?
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 05:15:58PM -0500, Matthew W. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at buying a used computer and want to install Debian on it. I've taken a serious liking to the following and would appreciate any comments on whether or not there will be any hardware problems with it. Many thanks! It all looks fine to me. The only thing that might give you trouble are the Soundblaster and TNT cards, tough i'm not sure. Probably someone more informed about newer graphics and sound cards will tell you. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. --RFC 1925 pgpaUGRrvDVCJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome E-Mail-Client
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 12:05:07PM +0200, Oliver Schoenknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anyone of you know of a good and recommendable E-Mail-client for GNOME ? I have tried several ones now but wasn't that satisfied yet ! Something in the vein of kMail... http://www.cscmail.net/ -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. --RFC 1925 pgpsNTMQIi2KP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sawmillthemestodeb conversions
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 05:28:25PM -0400, Now, they list in the GNOME Control Center's Appearences tab just fine, but when I Try them the Try button has no effect. This is because of something stupid sawmill.themes.org started doing. They started putting the Sawfish version number in the name of the archive, but not in the directory inside the archive. So, if you upload NewTheme.tar.gz, sawmill.themes.org renames this to NewTheme-0.25.2.tar.gz, but the directory inside the tarball is still NewTheme, not NewTheme-0.25.2. The sawmillthemetodeb program just stores the tarball in the themes directory; it does not extract it. This is to save disk space, since Sawfish is smart enough to load themes from tarballs, but only if the directory name inside the tarball matches the name of the tarball. Thanks to the strange sawmill.themes.org policy, this doesn't work. The quick fix is to remove the version number from the tarball name before running the conversion program. The solution is for the sawmill.themes.org people to stop messing with the filenames. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. --RFC 1925 pgpG7vHOw097c.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: staroffice
On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 05:57:24PM -0700, Joseph de los Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, I recently installed staroffice and it works on only one user (the default one) and I was wondering how I can make my other users be able to use it too because when other users try to execute soffice nothing happens. I tried changing the permissions (chown, chgrp, chmod, and anything else I can think of but still nothing happens). Hopefully somebody here can shed some light on what I can do abt this. Star Office is incredibly stupid. You have to install it with the '/net' option, and then each user who wants to run it has to run the setup program. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. --RFC 1925 pgpevUsanzedh.pgp Description: PGP signature
ipchains question
I'd like to set up ipchains so that no on can connect to my dialup computer at all except for identd (for IRC). I read the Firewall and IPCHAINS howtos, as well as the ipchains man page, and it looks like the following lines should do what i want: ipchains -P input DENY ipchains -I input -p all -s localhost -j ACCEPT ipchains -I input -p icmp -j ACCEPT ipchains -I input -p tcp --dport 113 -j ACCEPT Unfortunately, they don't. After dialing up my ISP, i can't do anything with the connection unless the default input setting is ACCEPT. I made sure output was set to ACCEPT, but it still doesn't work. I can't download mail, can't connect to web sites, etc. What am i doing wrong? -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgpySPq3T71F0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bag o' Questions
On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 12:19:25AM -0400,
Patrick Dahiroc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) I'm running gnome-terminal as my xterm. The title on the
window simply says 'Terminal'. Is possible to have the window
title dynamically change to the current working directory. Kinda
like the way emacs changes the window title to the name of the
current file.
I have this in ~/.zshrc. Not sure how to do it in bash (why would
you use bash, anyway?).
settitle() {
case $TERM in
*xterm* | *rxvt* | (dt|k|E)term)
print -Pn \e]2;$*\a
;;
esac
}
seticontitle() {
case $TERM in
*xterm* | *rxvt* | (dt|k|E)term)
print -Pn \e]1;$*\a
;;
esac
}
precmd() {
[[ -t 1 ]] || return# return if not on a terminal
settitle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: %~
seticontitle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: %~
}
P.S. Please wrap lines at 65 columns.
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Re: Gnome gripes
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 07:04:23PM -0400, David S. Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: edited Xsession according to _Learning Debian GNU/Linux : I assume you mean ~/.xsession. I should hope the book wouldn't advise that you screw up /etc/X11/Xsession. #!/bin/bash xterm gmc enlightenment panel exit 0 ## The only thing that should be in ~/.xsession is #!/bin/sh exec gnome-session how do you get gdm working? do I really want to? That's entirely up to you. I have a screenshot up at http://www.pobox.com/~epg/gdm.png, if you want to see what it looks like. GDM offers something XDM doesn't: multiple types of X sessions. By default, Debian comes with a Debian session (which works just like logging in from XDM), an X session (similar to the Debian session, but i can't remember the difference except that it tries to use the X session manager, xsm), and a Gnome session. The Gnome session ignores ~/.xsession, but you can run programs from ~/.gnomerc if you want. how do you get the fonts (like in xterm) larger? For xterm, you will need to add a line to ~/.Xresources like this: Xterm*font: fontname For Gnome apps, this is in a rather unintuitive place. It's in the Theme Selector section of the Control Center. For other apps, there's no telling, but it might be an X resource. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgpsQjwkBZLBv.pgp Description: PGP signature
moving from procmail to exim
I have all my procmail rules converted to exim .forward rules,
except one, and i don't think it can be done with exim.
This is the rule:
:0
* !^Content-Type: message/
* !^Content-Type: multipart/
* !^Content-Type: application/pgp
{
:0 fBw
* ^-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-
* ^-END PGP MESSAGE-
| formail \
-i Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=encrypt
:0 fBw
* ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
* ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
* ^-END PGP SIGNATURE-
| formail \
-i Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign
}
This rule converts old-style PGP-signed messages to the new
PGP/MIME format. Is there any way i can get this functionality
with exim? Though i'd rather get rid of procmail entirely, if
having exim call procmail somehow is the only solution, i'll take
it. It's better than nothing.
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Re: mutt and courier-imapd
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 06:36:17PM -0400, Brendan Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a small bug in courier currently which chokes mutt. I've attached a workaround patch against mutt 1.1.12 (should apply to earlier versions) which I'd love people to test - we're trying to get mutt 1.2 out the door soon. So if it works and in particular if it doesn't work, please let me know. Thanks for tracking this down! Hopefully, it will be fixed in courier soon, but in the meantime, your patch works great! I've gone back to using courier again. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgp87k4RiF5YH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how do you set your system clock from a remote time server?
On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 10:54:03AM -0400, Maury Merkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw, just a few days ago, a post with a command to get the current time and reset the system clock. You're looking for ntpdate. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgpPXUrlLpmwh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 09:44:14AM -0700, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to install an IMAP Server in a client. Can anyone recommends an IMAP server ammong Debian packages? I'm just learning about IMAP myself. I'd recommend courier-imap as long as you don't plan to use mutt with it. mutt seems to have problems talking to courier-imap, but no problems talking to UW imap. I've already filed bug reports. Courier-imap is smaller and faster than UW imap and it supports Maildir (UW imap also supports Maildir, but this is patched into the debian version, whereas courier was designed specifically for Maildir). Can anyone tell more or less what to do after installing this package. I dont know anything about IMAP (yet). IMAP works great out of the box with either of these packages! With courier-imap, each user will have to run 'maildirmake Maildir' to create their INBOX, but that's it! Both packages come with good documentation. Currently I use Exim. Both imap daemons i mentioned work well with Exim (that's what i'm using). P.S. Please wrap lines at 65 columns. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgpeEq86nmWYY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help with GDM
So, no one knows how to fix GDM? That's too bad. I was hoping that updating to Debian unstable would eliminate my needs for Red Hat. Looks like it's back to stupid old RPM... -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgpRdPKNguNwb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help with GDM (SOLVED!)
Not so much solved as the problem mysteriously went away. I really hate when that happens, but all i did was purge gdm, reinstall it (and apt did not download a new version, so it's not that the problem was fixed in a new version) and it works! I even changed gdm.conf back to the way i want it, and it works! -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgpM6Q3jjE4ay.pgp Description: PGP signature
Help with GDM
I've just upgrade from Debian 2.1 to unstable, and i have everything working except gdm. X comes up, and i can see that /etc/gdm/Init/Default is being run because the xsetroot command there turns the background blue, but this script does not complete because the xterm it's supposed to run never appears. Then X dies. This happens about 5 more times, and then i'm left with X running, along with my xterm and gdmlogin. gdm is no longer running at this point. gdmlogin reads in my username and password, but then disappears, but both X and the xterm are still running. I have to ctrl-alt-backspace it. Attached are the relevant parts of /var/log/syslog and the only two files i've modified from the default debian install, /etc/gdm/Init/Default and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) #!/bin/sh xterm /usr/bin/X11/xsetroot -solid #00 [daemon] Chooser=/usr/bin/gdmchooser --disable-sound --disable-crash-dialog DefaultPath=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games DisplayInitDir=/etc/gdm/Init Greeter=/usr/bin/gdmlogin --disable-sound --disable-crash-dialog Group=gdm HaltCommand=/sbin/shutdown -h now Halted from gdm menu. KillInitClients=0 LogDir=/var/log/gdm PidFile=/var/run/gdm.pid PostSessionScriptDir=/etc/gdm/PostSession PreSessionScriptDir=/etc/gdm/PreSession RebootCommand=/sbin/shutdown -r now Rebooted from gdm menu. RootPath=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/games ServAuthDir=/var/lib/gdm SessionDir=/etc/gdm/Sessions User=gdm UserAuthDir= UserAuthFBDir=/tmp UserAuthFile=.Xauthority [security] AllowRoot=0 RelaxPermissions=0 RetryDelay=0 UserMaxFile=65536 VerboseAuth=0 [xdmcp] Enable=0 HonorIndirect=0 MaxPending=4 MaxPendingIndirect=4 MaxSessions=16 MaxWait=30 MaxWaitIndirect=30 Port=177 [gui] GtkRC= MaxIconWidth=128 MaxIconHeight=128 [greeter] Browser=1 DefaultFace=/usr/share/pixmaps/nobody.png DefaultLocale=english Exclude=root,bin,daemon,adm,lp,sync,shutdown,halt,mail,news,uucp,operator,nobody,alias,backup,games,gnats,irc,list,majordom,man,msql,postgres,proxy,qmaild,qmaill,qmailp,qmailq,qmailr,qmails,sys,www-data,sashroot,mp3,ftp,identd,rwhod,telnetd,gdm Font=-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-180-*-*-*-*-*-* GlobalFaceDir=/usr/share/faces Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/gdm.xpm LocaleFile=/etc/locale.alias Logo=/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-large.png Quiver=1 # set SystemMenu to 1 if you want to reboot/shutdown without logging in SystemMenu=1 Welcome=Welcome to %n [chooser] DefaultHostImg=/usr/share/pixmaps/nohost.png HostImageDir=/usr/share/hosts ScanTime=3 [debug] Enable=1 [servers] 0=/usr/bin/X11/X # this second line starts up :1 on vt8 # 1=/usr/bin/X11/X vt8 Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_main: Here we go... Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_local_servers_start: Starting :0 Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_start: :0 Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up access for :0 Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up socket access Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up network access Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up access for :0 - 2 entries Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[382]: gdm_server_start: '/usr/bin/X11/X -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth :0' Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_usr1_handler: Starting display :0! Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_display_manage: Managing :0 Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_display_manage: Forked slave: 383 Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[383]: gdm_slave_start: Starting slave process for :0 Apr 10 02:19:53 trantor gdm[383]: gdm_slave_start: Opening display :0 Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[383]: gdm_slave_greeter: Running greeter on :0 Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[383]: gdm_slave_greeter: Greeter on pid 389 Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_child_handler: child 383 returned 0 Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_child_handler: :0 Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_child_action: Slave process returned 0 Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_start: :0 Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_start: Old server found (382). Killing. Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_stop: Server for :0 going down! Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up access for :0 Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up socket access Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up network access Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_auth_secure_display: Setting up access for :0 - 2 entries Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[390]: gdm_server_start: '/usr/bin/X11/X -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth :0' Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_server_usr1_handler: Starting display :0! Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm[378]: gdm_display_manage: Managing :0 Apr 10 02:19:58 trantor gdm
Re: Help with GDM
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 12:58:07AM -0700, Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net wrote: What xterm? There shouldn't be any xterm until after you've logged in Sorry, should've been more clear. For testing purposes, i started an xterm from /etc/gdm/Init/Default. I suspect a deeper X problem first. Kill gdm and make sure X works. X works just fine from xdm or startx. From your syslog, it looks like gdm is respawning over and over. You don't have it running from /etc/inittab do you? You don't also have xdm running on the same VT do you? Yes, it seems to be respawning after dying. I just can't figure out why it's dying. xdm is not even installed; gdm conflicts with it. Thanks for the speedy response. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgp2rtH7kbds1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux Scripts
On Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 05:59:19PM -0700, Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting closer to getting my dialog script to work, but I don't know enough about linux scripts ( like the -ge -ne operators). So I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a website on scripting. First of all, they're not Linux scripts; they're Bourne shell scripts, and, if written correctly, should run on any Unix system. Try 'man bash' for all the details. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgpTqRnMVo2ms.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A-x not defined in XEmacs
On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 03:32:38PM +0100, Jan Ulrich Hasecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and say xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc I am now looking for a place where I can put this command to make it permanent. On Debian, you don't need the command at all. Just rename ~/.xmodmaprc to ~/.Xmodmap, and the Debian X startup script (/etc/X11/Xsession) will load it for you. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. --OMM (THX 1138) pgpetAwu71Oyq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is ppp still active when ip-down is called?
On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 06:50:07PM -0500, Marc Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When pppd is shutting down and calls ip-down, is the ppp interface already dead, or can the network still I just did a quick test, and the connection is apparently down at that time. You can write your own poff to tell dyndns.org the new IP and then call the Debian poff. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpssLENESn3j.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: = = = Beginner's Question = = = =
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 10:51:14AM -0500, Lim, Sang-Bin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gcc mypgm.c problem is : bash: stdio.h : not found error message Well, it's hard to tell without posting mypgm.c, but I'm guessing that you put stdio.h in quotes (stdio.h), when it should have been in greater-than/less-than brackets (stdio.h). %PATH does not include /usr/include now. Nor should it. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgp6UxzWUFt84.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to use ntp/ntpdate to fix my clock
On Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 08:46:07AM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edit /etc/init.d/ntpdate and add the server(s) you selected. Remove hwcloch --adjust calls in /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh because it will bite you sooner or later. Just out of curiosity, what kind of problem does hwclock cause for ntp? -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpUV7KksvFPh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Emacs with neXtaw?
I'm trying to compile emacs against neXtaw (an Xaw replacement based on NextStep), but I can't get it to work. First I tried with the emacs20 that comes with slink, but it didn't work, so I downloaded 20.5a from potato and tried to compile that. Still no luck. I first tried to do what the instructions in /usr/doc/nextawg/README.Debian, but that didn't work. Running ldd on the emacs binary told me why: that binary doesn't use Xaw at all. Hmm. That's when I tried to recompile it. First, I edited src/Makefile.in to change -lXaw to -lneXtaw, and then changed debian/rules to call ./configure with --with-x-toolkit=athena. This produced the exact same binary that came with slink. Then I tried making the same changes to the potato sources, and I still get a binary that doesn't use athena at all. Is there any way to do this? -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpm63vSLTx2k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What's the deal with .gnome-desktop?
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 11:26:32PM -0500, Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to the few replies, I got it copied, however the links are not quite working the same. On my system, the floppy and cd-rom links pop open a gmc windows open to the correct paths, however, it does not mount the relavent device. And the little menus you get when you right click on them are different. On the source system you have options like unmount and eject While I just have the typical open properties etc etc.. Instead of copying his .gnome-desktop, just right-click on the desktop and select the Recreate Default Icons item. This should create the device icons, with the proper mount/umount/eject menu items. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpyC81KaA6C9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!?
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 12:26:43PM -0500, Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just thought of something. I thought the whole reason why KDE wasn't included in the Debian download trees because of the licensing issues with QT. If that's the case, then why is QT included in the download tree?!? If QT is OK to put in there then what's the point of saying KDE can't be there? QT is DFSG free, but it is not GPL. The QT license and GPL are not compatible, but the KDE people have mixed GPL and QT licensed code. It is illegal to redistribute this mixed code, and Debian will not do it. The KDE guys shouldn't either, but they don't seem to care. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgppyNZ9npBB1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DocBook Tools?
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 10:07:24PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % zgrep db2html Contents-alpha usr/bin/db2html text/cygnus-stylesheets usr/lib/debbugs/db2html misc/debbugs usr/man/man1/db2html.1.gz text/cygnus-stylesheets Please excuse my stupidity. Apparently, temporary insanity led me to use grep instead of zgrep. I feel like a newbie. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpXaESRKdvBG.pgp Description: PGP signature
DocBook Tools?
Where can I get the tools db2html, db2ps, db2rtf, etc.? They are used in generating documentation for Gnome, but I can't find them. I've grepped the Contents file for slink and potato, but don't see them. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpaN8YuAjTT1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DocBook Tools?
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 02:10:27PM +, Steve George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help you with the Debian package but you may be able to Alien the RPM from Cygnus which is stylesheets-0.10-2 which is here http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/Mirrors/sourceware.cygnus.com/pub/docbook-tools/docware/RPMS/noarch/ the source should also be there so you could roll your own. Thanks, I'm downloading now. Are there any plans to package these? I'd do it of course, except they haven't started taking new maintainers yet... -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpLjF79vA5cZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ssh pam
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 02:16:56AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, AFAIK, you'll have to hand out some $$ if you want a Windoze (95/98/NT) ssh client. Nope. See http://www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html for TTSSH, which allows TeraTerm Pro (linked to from that page, and also free) to use SSH. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpwFFLFya9wp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DocBook Tools?
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 08:28:33PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are packaged. 'cygnus-stylesheets'. Contents.gz is your friend. As I said in my original message, I grepped the Contents.gz for potato and slink, and came up with nothing. ~$ grep db2html Contents-i386.gz ~$ Hmmm. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpDoUGJNcyGo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Outlook and HTML
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:28:57AM -0500, Arcady Genkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Standard signature separator is -- with a blank following it. Actually, it's -- . Notice the trailing space. Mutt, slrn, and Netscape all do this correctly. I'm sure most other software does as well. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpDCQ9pAv7Fi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: same-gnome kills sawmill
On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 02:26:46PM +, Pedro Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following looks to me like a bug against sawmill: Launch the same gnome game and click the maximize button. This always logs me out of the gnome-session (which is my only command in .xsession) killing all other applications except communicator which has to be killed manually. This doesn't happen when running Enlightenment. Can you verify this? Just tried it, and I had no problems. I'm running October Gnome with Sawmill 0.17 (both latest). Maybe you should upgrade? -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgpqOlEgKPrtU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt group reply
On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 01:11:23PM +1100, Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I give mutt a list of E-Mail addresses that are mine? set alternates=([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]) This will take care of the group reply problem you described. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I was in love once. Later I learned it was an inner ear infection. --Constable Benton Fraser (Due South) pgp2c6OOEcr6x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt group reply
On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:17:01PM +1100, Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strange it is not mentioned in: /usr/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz I am running mutt v0.95.3i from slink, and it *is* in /usr/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz, beginning at line 2848. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I was in love once. Later I learned it was an inner ear infection. --Constable Benton Fraser (Due South) pgpN13KXINCgd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt group reply
On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 04:22:51PM +1100, Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My fault - I was searching for alternatives, not alternates :-( This is why I search for things like 'lternat', which matches both words. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I was in love once. Later I learned it was an inner ear infection. --Constable Benton Fraser (Due South) pgpqD5WyZtSXa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gnomeicu w/out the rest of gnome?
On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 06:05:15PM -0800, Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to use gnomeicu without the gnome panel and stuff opening gnomeicu -a -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I was in love once. Later I learned it was an inner ear infection. --Constable Benton Fraser (Due South) pgpMFimVh2oEw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cron jobs
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:41:19AM -0500, Brian Schramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I want is it to email me if it does not exit out prematurely. That way I can tell when I had to run the script so I can get a feal as to how often I end up with a problem. Just echo whatever you want. The output of your cron jobs is mailed to you. You could also use mail to do it yourself, like this: cat EOF |mail -s cron errors username This didn't work. Blah blah $f. EOF -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I was in love once. Later I learned it was an inner ear infection. --Constable Benton Fraser (Due South) pgpRkR4sKmNZ3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can Navigator spawn other mail proggy?
On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 09:01:56PM -0700, Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net wrote: Was wonder if anyone knows if Navigator can be configured to spawn another program when following a mailto: hyperlink? I suspect no. But I Yes, it can. See http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/brian_winters/mutt/ for an example. While this launches mutt, I'm sure it can easily be modified to launch another mailer. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I was in love once. Later I learned it was an inner ear infection. --Constable Benton Fraser (Due South) pgpK1SBKeqtfB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Postgresql Beginner
On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 02:32:32AM -0400, Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This novice is confused by the role of the user 'postgres'. It seems I can't do anything with this package unless I first su to root user, then su again to 'postgres' user. All you have to do as postgres is add and destroy users. Use the command 'createuser' to add yourself. I used the same username and user id as in /etc/passwd, but I'm not sure that's necessary. Give yourself permission to create databases. Now you can do all your work without being root. I would gladly be directed to a usable FAQ for beginners. The Postgresql HOW-TO is long on philosophy and testing, but lacking in basic intro kind of stuff. Install postgresql-doc and check out /usr/doc/postresql-doc/index.html for lots of good information. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpUqCfT9lVbw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Good News Reader?
On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 11:11:37AM +1000, Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things I dislike about slrn: - poor support for MIME, and no support for PGP. I know this doesn't help you now, but the author has stated that he will add MIME support. As for PGP, see http://www.ollie.clive.ia.us/jeff/python/anysign/ for a decent method of signing messages from slrn. Unfortunately, that's the only pgp feature it supports. - while messages that are marked are not immediately removed, I constantly get mixed up between the keystrokes required for mutt and slrn, and push q, intending the index of messages to fill the entire screen. Wrong! q in slrn goes back to the index of newgroups, hence I have to try and relocate articles that I accidently marked as read. All keystrokes are configurable, so this shouldn't be a problem. See /usr/doc/slrn/examples/slrn.rc.gz for examples. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpgcmD4Urjdh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SED question
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 11:37:26PM -0800,
Ben Lutgens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am writing a shell script using sed I need to figure out how I can store the
output of
grep florida roam.db | sed -e s/^.*\? //g
to a variable. roam.db has entries like, one per line.
value=`grep florida roam.db | sed -e s/^.*\? //g`
Those are backticks (`), not apostrophes (').
--
Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss.
A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back,
a dangerous shuddering and stopping.
--Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: Did Mutt eat my mail?
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 07:40:48PM -0500, David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just signed up for this listserv, and fetchmail saw/downloaded 76 messages. When I went to Mutt, there were only 10 in the Mutt index pager! Huh? Even weirder, about 10 minutes later, Mutt reported I new mail in my mailbox (I was already off-line) and the rest of those messages fetchmail saw magically appeared. What happened? Did I swamp fetchmail and it needed to catch its breath? Actually, fetchmail swamped smail (or exim or whater your MTA is). Sometimes when I download a lot of mail, smail seems to get stuck. You can type mailq to see how many messages are waiting to be delivered, and runq to tell smail to wake up and deliver the messages. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpbWL12NfZam.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: staroffice - multiuser?
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 06:35:28PM +0530, T.V.Gnanasekaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i remember when i downloaded staroffice 5 from stardivision (before sun's buyout), it used to work only in for a single account, the account from which it was installed. But has it changed now after sun's buyout of staroffice? Because, I don't see 'personal edition' anymore along with staroffice on sun's site. I only see 'free' word. Any insights? Yes, it has changed. The free version allows multiple users to use it now. Install it as root with ./setup /net. Any user who wants to use it should switch to the directory it was installed in and type ./setup. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpQ3ugrc23X5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: writting a Daemon in c
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 10:35:51AM -0400, Evan Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am writting a Daemon in c, I need to know how to disconnect the program from the terminal so that if that terminal is destoyed it will not cause my server to shutdown. I have done this with perl scripts, but can't not figure it out with c. Thanks in advance man 3 daemon -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpavdmpHWjJD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SECOND TRY: Re: Group adm?
On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 09:09:52AM -0400, Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /home: drwxrwsr-x 3 ed ed 1024 Aug 11 1998 home I don't know how the above happened for /home. What should the owner/permissions of /home be? drwxrwsr-x 10 root staff1024 Oct 11 04:01 /home /home/ed: drwxrwxr-x 30 ed ed 3072 Oct 15 05:41 ed Its not SGID. Should it be? I don't know. I just looked and some of the users have sgid, some don't. I don't remember setting it myself, so I'm not sure what's going on. P.S. The group 'ed' does exist, and it doesn't matter whether user 'ed' is a member of 'adm' or not. 'mkdir temp' in /home/ed (executed by the user 'ed') always results in the group owner of the temp subdir being 'adm'. This is why I didn't reply to your original post. I have no idea what's wrong. Sorry. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpcSh5ZTYdRT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SECOND TRY: Re: Group adm?
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 12:25:35PM -0400, Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Cogburn wrote: I've noticed several files in my normal user (ed) home dir, which, instead of ed as group owner, are given the group of adm. These files are all types, a file created by Netscape while downloading, a sub-dir I created, and a config file (.xscreensaver) created by another process, as examples. The user ed, isn't allowed to change this, I have to use chown as root to fix things. Is this normal? Why do they get the group of adm? This is just a guess, and I don't know how it could have happened, but your home directory might belong to group adm. My homedir is SGID, so that all files are owned by the same group as it. If yours is set up the same way, and I imagine it is, this might be it. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpkFynI3NmAv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie Non-FAQ(I think) questions
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 05:01:19PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: APPS and GAMES: - Quake / QuakeWorld -- I'm guessing that the Linux build for these works on the Debian distributionAny pointers? (Debian specific FAQ's) Quake works perfectly on Debian. There are Debian packages that will make installing it easier. XQF makes it easy to browse QuakeWorld. Word 6.0 -- I've been told that StarOffice is pretty good? (Pros / Cons please...) I use AbiWord for a lot of things, but it's far from complete, so I also have StarOffice installed. Access StarOffice has database software. Excel Gnumeric. I've never had to turn to its StarOffice equivalent. It also understands more Excel files than StarOffice. Photoshop 5.0 Gimp. RioShell 3.0 I'm guessing that this communicates with a Diamond Rio. freshmeat.net lists quite a few apps for this. Adaptec EZ CD4.0 Gnome-Toaster. HARDWARE: - Abit BP6 Dual Celery 450 (OC's to 504 ) 128 PC 100 Seagate (Model?) 4.5GB UDMA33 Drive 3Com 3C905B Diamond v770 Ultra Iomega Zip 100 Iomega Jaz 2GB I have a friend with an Abit motherboard with a celeron, and it works great. I can personally vouch for the network card. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpx2GQH5b9rV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A GnuPG package for stable?
I have gpg as well as a few other potato packages compiled for slink at http://www.pobox.com/~epg/debian -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpda60LUk9eB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:17:53AM -0400, Rob Mahurin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use emacs when I'm in a text terminal (like right now) because I haven't figured out how to use Xemacs' menus from the text terminal and some of the functions of Xemacs (e.g., syntax highlighting) seem inaccessible without mouse access to the proper menus. In addition, the cut and paste works differently in Xemacs (in a text terminal) than in any other text-based program, and it always messes with me. I am sure that these things are configureable, but I haven't found them and I don't feel like learning Lisp and reading the source. I'm not sure how to access the menus in a terminal, or why you'd even want to, so I can't help with that. As far as the syntax highlighting and cut-and-paste behavior go, here are the relevant snippets of my .emacs. This tells XEmacs to always use the maximum amount of syntax highlighting with colors rather than fonts, and to have mouse middle-clicks paste wherever the cursor is rather than where the mouse is clicked. I believe that's what you were looking for. (custom-set-variables '(mouse-yank-at-point t) '(font-lock-use-fonts nil) '(font-lock-use-colors t) '(font-lock-maximum-size 256000)) (setq-default font-lock-maximum-decoration t) (require 'font-lock) (custom-set-faces) -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpU2nTYN086m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dselect in xterm
On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 10:08:22AM -0700, Brian E. Lavender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is rather annoying. Any suggestions, so I don't have black text on white blocks when running dselect from an xterm? Add the following two lines to /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm: XTerm*background: black XTerm*foreground: gray90 -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpLWHtOicztG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Manually importing Debian menu to WMaker
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 01:35:03PM -0300, Guilherme Soares Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, After some months w/ fvwm95, I'm experimenting WMaker, and I quite like it (lighter seems more stable)... but there's a problem: The Debian default menus aren't merged w/ WMaker's own menus at installation, and I don't know how to do so... Can someone help me? Read /usr/doc/menu/html/index.html. It's fairly straightforward, and I was able to make a menu method for the FvwmGtk module in CVS fvwm. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpbGLOgckocu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WordPerfect Trouble
On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 08:41:39PM +0300, Marius Aamodt Eriksen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying out Wordperfect 8.0. First of all, the installer couldn't find libXpm.so.4, I fixed this by linking the library in /usr/X11R6/lib to /usr/lib. I installed wp with the text-mode install, however, it segfaults when i try to run it. Has anybody here experienced this before? Any ideas? Feedback? $ zgrep libXpm.so.4 /cdrom/dists/slink/Contents-i386.gz usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 x11/xpm4g usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.10x11/xpm4g usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4oldlibs/xpm4.7 usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4.10 oldlibs/xpm4.7 $ apt-get install xpm4g xpm4.7 Or use dselect and make sure both packages are installed. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgprj33mQ24jn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: TrueType fonts, xfstt and freefont
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 11:37:25AM -0400, Aaron M. Stromas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right, there is a font deuglification mini-howto i came across that mentions that. unfortunately, i can't remember where i found it. thanks, http://members.aa.net/~swear/pedia/fonts.html This page has a lot of information about fonts, including a link to the Font Deuglification Mini-Howto. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpWiHcqTZr7U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nas???
On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 01:21:22PM +0100, John Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now I can open xmms on my daughter's display, but when I start to play an MP3, the sound plays from the speakers on the PII! I am hoping when I get nas running properly, I'll be able to play the sound from the speakers on the PC I'm sitting at rather than only the PII. I believe xmms is based on a MP3 player that is nas compatible, so I should only need to get nas working properly and the rest Can't help you with nas, but I can help with your xmms problem. It uses esd (package esound), not nas. All you have to do make sure the environment variable ESPEAKER is set to HOSTNAME:5001, where HOSTNAME is her hostname. For example, my .xsession contains the following line: export ESPEAKER=dethstar:5001 All sounds from esd are played on my system rather than the remote one. Just make sure xmms is set up to use the esd plugin. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpzKFWuQgcDC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xemacs's shell mode
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 09:45:07AM -0500, W. Paul Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use ls --color=none [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shao Zhang) writes: Hi, When I use the shell in xemas, the filenames does not display properly. The filename is actually displays as ^[[0mfilename^[[0m What am I doing wrong? Thanks. Shao. Even better, use term mode instead of shell. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpvgVUwGzRpF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xterm
On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 09:27:27AM -0500, Brian Servis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *- On 19 Aug, Stavros wrote about Xterm 2) i dont know if it is a xterm or a bash problem but when i start a new xterm the ~/.bashrc isn't being read. .bashrc is only read in a 'login' shell. By default xterms don't start as a login shell, you need to use the -ls option to xterm. See the man pages for bash and xterm. No, you're thinking of .profile and .bash_profile, which are only read in login shells. .bashrc is read by bash in all interactive shells, unless it is invoked as sh. The only thing I can think of is that his xterm is invoking sh rather than bash. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgp2w1c1LmQ4e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sound programs
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 10:15:50AM +0200, Jocke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just some small wonderings concerning sound configurations. I have a Soundblaster Live that I can play .au files on by piping (AS ROOT ONLY) $ cat sound.au /dev/audio You need to add yourself to the audio group. man adduser Been reading the Howtos and understand that I need some more things installed. Is there a list of a basic working sound package (mixers, cd-player, mp3 etc) for debian. I am running WindowMaker and got hold of wmcdplay, wmsoundserver, wmsoundprefs. If I try to startr wmsoundserver I get segmentation fault and wmcdplay says: unable to open cdrom device '/dev/cdrom'. In addition to this I also have the following installed xmms, playmidi, xmix, tracker, sox, tcd, sound-recorder. Looks like you have enough software to me. Make sure /dev/cdrom is a symbolic link to your cdrom device, most likely /dev/hdb or /dev/hdd. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpi8QdE2yC43.pgp Description: PGP signature
permissions/ownership of /tmp
What are the permissions and ownership of /tmp supposed to be? I don't know how, but the permissions became set to rwxr-xr-x and ownership became 4534.310, obviously invalid user/group numbers. Also, will the staroffice3 installer deb work with Star Office 5.1? I asked both these questions twice on the Debian IRC channel, and got no response at all. I supposed I'll stick to the mailing list, where I've always gotten speedy help. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpiqb18qMjrY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems compiling Citadel/UX
On Sun, Aug 15, 1999 at 11:43:27PM -0500, Michael Merten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: === /* Encode or decode file as MIME base64 (RFC 1341) by John Walker http://www.fourmilab.ch/ This program is in the public domain. */ #define REVDATE 11th August 1997 #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include ctype.h #include string.h #define TRUE 1 #define FALSE 0 #define LINELEN 72 /* Encoded line length (max 76) */ typedef unsigned char byte; /* Byte type */ static FILE *fi = stdin;/* Input file */ static FILE *fo = stdout; /* Output file */ The problem is in the previous two lines. fi and fo are being initialized with a variable, which isn't legal. They should be set in main(), not here. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche
Re: looking for a mail client
On Sun, Aug 08, 1999 at 06:23:46PM -0700, Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net wrote: I'm certainly no expert on using mutt, but it does have mail filtering capabilities. See folder-hook for more info. No, it doesn't. folder-hook is used to apply settings only to one folder. For example, I have mutt set the reply-to properly whenever I'm reading a folder for a mailing list (like this one, check my headers). -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche
Re: BE MORE SIMPLE!!!!
On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0400, Kristopher Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm the guy that asked which package had the HOWTOs. I know it seemed like a dumb question, but I did try searching on HOWTO in both dselect and on the Debian web site, and came up with nothing. And I started paging through the 2700+ packages shown in dselect, but gave up after an hour or so of that. Maybe it would help if the package was named doc-howto or something useful like that, or if it was installed as part of the Complete Developer Workstation profile I selected when installing Debian. I hope you didn't take my message to be insulting to you, because I didn't intend it that way. There's nothing wrong with asking questions, I do it all the time. I was just saying that the person answering your question should have told you how to search the Contents file (dists/slink/Contents-i386.gz). -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Contents file [was Re: BE MORE SIMPLE!!!!]
On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 10:08:04PM -0500, ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I kind of hate to jump into a string like this but at the risk of sounding real stupid how can one create this /var/lib/dpkg/Contents-i386.gz file. I've searched for it on my Slink system and it just isn't there. I took a look at the dpkg man page and see no reference to the file. I see that you can look for packages in /var/lib/dpkg/available but that's not the same. Thanks, kent You can pull it out of your Debian mirror from dists/slink/Contents-i386.gz -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Re: BE MORE SIMPLE!!!!
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 09:31:54AM +0200, Urban Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no disrespect, but M$ makes you forget thinking. (Cf the subscription! :-) ) I would suggest an other install description with step-by-step texts of what to do. And redesinging Debian web site can help a lot. It is not Wintendo that makes people forget how to think, it is something else. This is a problem with people in general, not just in relation to computers. No one wants to think, because they're used to having things spoon-fed to them. That's what push content was all about, people have to be kept glued to the TVs, we can't have them going back to reading, learning, and thinking. We should not encourage this process. I see so many questions on this list that shouldn't be answered. Instead, the user should be told how to use man pages, info pages, etc. For example, someone asked if there was a package containing the Howtos. Instead of telling him the name of the package, he should have been told how to grep the Contents file, that way he can find things on his own instead of asking the list every time. Remember, catch a man a fish and you feed him that day, teach the man to fish, and he'll never starve again. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Floppy Mounting Problems
I have a stack of floppies that i'm sorting through, and i need to know what's on them. Some of them, however, aren't formatted. I have know way to know which ones aren't until i mount them. Every time i try to mount an unformatted floppy, mount segfaults. Afterwards, if i try to mount another floppy it says mount: /dev/fd0 already mounted or /floppy busy. I can mount a floppy to other directories, so it must be /floppy that's busy, even though /etc/mtab and /proc/mounts both show it as not mounted. Further, i can't remove the floppy module from the kernel. Eventually i run out of directories to mount to and have to reboot. This is unacceptable. Any ideas? -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Re: Floppy Mounting Problems
On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 02:45:21AM -0500, Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try umounting /floppy? i had this problem when i was playing around with smbmount (stupid !@)#' $(%^* characters in the sharenames) (literally those characters, especially , ', and space) and it would fail and leave the directory wedged... IIRC umount fixed it. Nope, it says /floppy is not mounted according to mtab, which is correct, /floppy is not mounted. Someone else suggested checking the codepage modules, but this is not the problem. I have no problems mounting/umounting floppies until I (try to) mount a non-formatted one. Just in case, however, I loaded the modules manually anyway. No luck. Like I said, I can still mount the floppy to other directories, but that doesn't solve the problem. The floppy module never gets unloaded and /floppy can't be mounted to. This is unacceptable. I would think this is a bug in the kernel (the mount() call) or in the mount program, since mount segfaults before its done. I'm guessing it isn't unlocking the directory or something. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Re: /bin/bash - /bin/sh
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 03:15:39PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you be specific and point me to what fails. if it is a matter of making ash posix happy, it will be done -- we have the code. Bash is just way too heavy for many things. You could also provide another posix complient bourne shell. I was not speaking from knowledge of code in ash, so I couldn't be more specific. Run tests/posix.tests (from the bash source directory) through ash, and it will say what tests were failed. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Re: /bin/bash - /bin/sh
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:30:37AM -0500, Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 23 May 1999, Werner Reisberger wrote: I would really aprecciate if the debian base system uses in all important system scripts /bin/sh. It would be also safer to use for sh not a symbolic link to bash but instead to ash or another bourne compatible shell to avoid problems if the bash is broken. IIRC, they're trying to do this. But first they have to get rid of the bash-isms from those scripts, and from a lot of other scripts that use /bin/sh expecting it to be bash. Just out of curiousity, which important startup script has the /bin/bash? So i can watch out for it if i ever have a broken bash This is not a good idea. Ash is Bourne-compatible, but not POSIX, which bash is. That's why bash is used as sh. Install the bash source and look in the tests/ directory. Run the file posix.tests with bash, and it passes every test. Ash fails 8 of the tests. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Re: HOWTOs to txt..
On Wed, May 05, 1999 at 12:26:38AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think all Howtos and mini- are a bit too much for printing... is there any reseller who sells hard copies of the whole set? Walnut Creek (www.cdrom.com) sells the biggest Linux book I've ever seen. It's nearly all the HOWTOs, and some of the other docs from the Documentation Project. I forget how much it is, but it was definitely worth the money. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Re: Address book in mutt?
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 10:36:11AM +0200, Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All! Is it possible to use the address book in mutt? I couldn't find anything about it in the documentation. Maybe it is possible to use mutt combined with another program providing the address book facilities? (I know the simplest solution: Use any database for address book and copy the addresses with gpm :-). TIA Wojtek Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To create aliases with mutt, create an alias file. The filename doesn't matter; I called mine .mutt.aliases. In your .muttrc, add the following two lines: set alias_file=~/.mutt.aliases source ~/.mutt.aliases The alias file contains definitions in the following format: alias bob Bob Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] When mutt asks you who to send the message to, just type bob and it will put the rest of the line into the To field. You can type multiple aliases (and normal addresses) separated by commas. You don't actually need a separate file for your aliases. The source command basically includes the file at that point. You could put all your alias definitions into .muttrc. When adding aliases from within mutt (key 'a'), I believe it appends them to .muttrc by default. Setting the alias_file variable makes it append them to that file instead. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Re: From hdr in mutt
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 08:16:50PM +1000, Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, mutt by default displays my local username as the email address in the From field. I tried to change this with the alternative variable. But it still doesn't work. Can anyone please help?? Straight from my .muttrc: set realname=Eric Gillespie, Jr. unset use_from my_hdr From: \$realname\ \[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Re: IRC and BitchX newbie -- how to get started?
http://www.irchelp.org/ Everything you could possibly need to know about IRC. If you don't feel like reading this here's a few quick commands which should get you through the Debian party: /server SERVER connect to SERVER /join CHANNEL join CHANNEL (channel names begin with #, like #debian) /part CHANNEL leave CHANNEL /quit quit IRC /msg Bob MESSAGE... Send private message to Bob Anything you type that doesn't begin with a / is sent to the channel as a message. Anything you read in those documents that mentions ircII also applies to BitchX, as it is just an improved version. -- /---\ | Eric Gillespie, Jr.| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |*| | Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and| | depriving him of his life there exists only a difference | | of degree. | | --Emperor Paul Muad'dib (Frank Herbert's Dune Messiah) | \---/
Re: Date Problems
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 01:10:08AM -0500, D Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just reinstalled debian hamm on my new 2.5 gig HD with no problems. Except I can't seem to understand the correct syntax for setting my system date and time using 'date'. Can anyone give me an example with an explanation TIA Duane Richards The GNU date command is pretty smart. You can use most common date formats with the -s option. For example, date -s 'Mar 1 8:55am 1999' is the same as date -s '3/1/1999 8:55:00'. -- /---\ | Eric Gillespie, Jr.| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |*| | Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and| | depriving him of his life there exists only a difference | | of degree. | | --Emperor Paul Muad'dib (Frank Herbert's Dune Messiah) | \---/
Re: Help
On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 08:56:25AM +, Pat Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am new to Linux, and am learning fairly quick. But I am having problems getting my Xserver to work at a higher color depth then 8. If I try and remove that particular setting in the XF86Config file then it tells me that it cannot find the 8 bpp color setting and there for am unable to start X. In the XF86Config file, find the section for your server (Section Screen, Driver SVGA for me), and there should be a line above Subsection Display called DefaultColorDepth. If it isn't there, make it. Here's the relevant section from mine: Section Screen Driver SVGA Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor DefaultColorDepth 32 SubSection Display Depth32 Modes1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Also is there a way to save screen size I.E. so that every time I start Netscape I do not have to rezie it to fit the window. I am using FWM95 as my x manager. I find it annoying to have to resize the windows every time I start X and Netscape. Not sure about this. I use FVWM and don't have that problem, but I always thought it was Netscape that was remembering its size. -- /---\ | Eric Gillespie, Jr.| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |*| | Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and| | depriving him of his life there exists only a difference | | of degree. | | --Emperor Paul Muad'dib (Frank Herbert's Dune Messiah) | \---/
Re: Quicktime player for Linux?
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Tino Schwarze wrote: That's what the -f switch is for... (yet, it is nonsense to have this as default) Bye, Tino. Actually it's +f. With xanim, - turns options off and + turns them on. -f (read file into memory), +f plays it straight from the file. /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: Debian goes big business?
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Christian Lavoie wrote: - Debian will lose its spirit if it goes itself for-profit. - A for-profit corporation based on Debian itself will eventually try to influence/own it. (Consequences: See previous comment) Bottom line: Debian should remain developer controlled. I wouldn't mind it if everyone disagreed with what I'm saying. But it seems as if no one even understands what I'm saying. No one would be taking home any profit in the system I'm talking about. The core developers (the ones who currently control Debian) would be a kind of board of directors. Developers would work for Debian instead of doing it in their free time. Bottom line: Debian *will* remain developer controlled. On a side note, if a user-based co-operative society forms, would a developer-based society of the same kind be appreciated? It could for an example provide acquisition of patents (basically, to GPLized them) and work to allow developers for better recognition, allow to access better resources (like an equivalent to a membership to W3C, or other reserved to corporation bodies thingies.) and tries to augment developer communication and tries to 'enforce' major headings of the dist. (Like, say, we're switching to libc7) This sounds more like what I'm saying. Christian Lavoie -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Jernej Zajc wrote: Being a Caldera newbie I find Debian idea so interesting that I'll probably switch. Point is, there is absolutely no commercial interests driving the development into one direction or the other. Developers have total control over what and how is going to be implemented. It's what's made Linux (and other high-end UNIX systems, such as Solaris, HP-UX) what they are - versatile OSs that are configurable to the maximum extent. Windoze, on the other hand, has been developed according to wishes, not needs, of hobbie users that favour clicking icons and stuff like that. I like it too, but found that my data is indefinitely more important and want to use it in the future so Linux is my best bet. Some of us are tired of relying on ever-changing APIs that are being developed according to momental needs (=which rival do we want to wipe out today, Balmer?) The less organization you have the more development will serve real needs; developers that code in their spare time usually know what they're doing and what is needed, and are not directed by boss that puts generating revenue as priority no. 1. Do you think it will ever be possible that in a corporation the work will not be driven by revenue? That shareholders will back off and leave developers total control over their work? I think not. Then you must not be paying attention. As I have said in nearly every message, this would not be a public corporation. The only shareholders would be the same people who control Debian today. The only change is that they will be paid and therefore will not need other jobs. As for two kinds of developers, paid and unpaid ones, don't you think there can arise some tensions between the groups? Money changes much things. Only if we let it. We're not animals. We're human. We can control ourselves. Just because it rarely happens doesn't mean it can't happen. Debian is the only viable non-commercial Linux distribution nowadays. It's the only major Linux distribution of which development is propelled by absolutely no commercial interest. Many many people want it to stay this way. After all, it's the Linux way. Jernej None of this would change. As for your comment about the Linux way, I don't buy it. Over the course of the last year Linux has become *heavily* commercialized. I am dead against that. What I propose is the exact opposite, securing the developers and users as the sole controlling force behind Debian. /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]
I hope no one gets angry at me for reviving this thread, but I'm just now reading it and I think this could be an important issue. Christian Lavoie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: My point is that this company would one day tries ot improve it's revenues and influence the Debian distribution to fits its needs. Look at the recent discussions about whether to ship Slink as i386 only, or to wait until m68k and others are ready. If Debian had been commercially distributed by a company, the choice wouldn't be taken on a 'How can this help the Debian dists and end-users' basis, but on a 'How can we get the most bucks' basis. You're thinking in traditional terms. Someone decides these issues now, right? Those exact same people would be in charge of this corporation. They would not be interested in the bottom line, but in what's best for Debian. The word corporation scares a lot of people because of what it's come to represent. But how a corporation is run is decided internally. Just because there aren't any democratic corporations doesn't mean we can't start one. This new democratic Debian corporation could sell shrink-wrapped Debian CDs right next to Red Hat CDs, hopefully cheaper. Combined with Debian's advantages over Red Hat and word-of-mouth, Debian could possibly eclipse Red Hat. Even if it doesn't become the best-selling distro, it could still sell enough to give the developer's jobs. I'm not sure if this would be considered a for-profit corporation or not. No one's really raking in any profit, most of the money is going back into Debian and paying for the packaging and such, but some people are getting paid, so I'm not sure. I can see only two changes in Debian due to this corporation. Development would (presumably) go faster because the developers are getting paid, and Debian would become more well-known. I also liked the idea that someone suggested earlier, that people could pay dues into this corporation and get a vote. A democratic corporation indeed. This may sound radical, but we'll never know if it will work unless we try, will we? /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Christian Lavoie wrote: I starting to think this whole mess started on a word understanding problem. I wouldn't name such an organization a 'corporation', =P Since corporation is the legal term for the type of entity I am describing, I don't see what's wrong with calling it a democratic corporation. Nope. But it does indeed sounds real good. How can we do so? An interesting question. The first step is (obviously) to convince enough people. Especially the developers' we've been talking about. Surely they have opinions? /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Harrison, Shawn wrote: It's possible to have a privately-held corporation, in which the board of trustees and perhaps a few others hold the stock. The company I work for is organized this way - it gives the advantages of a corporation without the possibility of hostile take-overs and other nastities* of public trading. I would think those who are in charge of the project (however loosely that term applies) could just as well be the shareholders and board of trustees. There would never be any necessity that they hand over control to anyone at any time. This is what I'm talking about. To go public would be to remove control from the hands of the Debian community. Definitely not desirable. Of course, when money gets involved, harmony and brotherhood are a bit more fleeting. This is a common assumption about human nature, but it's doubtful that we're incapable of working together without getting greedy. It's because we're raised to put so much emphasis on money and power that this becomes a problem. Unfortunately, this is the society in which we must work. However, the people we're referring to have already demonstrated their desire to work for the betterment of Debian, and not for the sake of money. Even if someone gets ideas about greed, it's extremely unlikely that everyone will be like this. One more reason to include the member votes that someone else suggested. If the board gets greedy, we replace them. But I think this idea of a single business corporation to represent the project, as with RedHat, is misguided. The beauty of the Debian project is that it is a volunteer organization. Let's keep it that way. I am all for a for-profit business forming as a value-added seller of Debian Once again I say that this would not change the attitudes of developers toward Debian, except that it would give them more time to work on it since their jobs would be to develop Debian. We would merely be removing the need for developers to have separate jobs. I'm not sure about the details of Red Hat's internal operations, but I'm quite sure someone is making profit off the distribution, and the developers are merely employees. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about an equal split of the corporation's profits among the developers. rest of Harrison's post snipped /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Mark Phillips wrote: I was actually suggesting this for RedHat rather than Debian. I believe such a model would fit RedHat much better than Debian. The Debian model gives the votes and power to the developers and the role of developer is a voluntary position. This is right and proper --- the developers give their time and efforts for free, and because of this, expect to have complete control over what they do. If Debian moved to a democratic non-profit corporation model, the nature of Debian would change dramatically. The power would move from the developers to the users, and there would become two classes of developers: the paid and the unpaid. This environment would not be nearly so attractive to volunteer developers and would probably result in a deteriorating distribution. Certainly I don't believe existing developers would be keen to change models. RedHat on the other hand, already is much nearer to this model. They already have the separation between paid and unpaid package developers. And because the main developers are paid --- via income generated from users --- it is reasonable that users expect some say over how the organization is run. Of course this isn't how it works currently. Because RedHat is a for-profit company, it is answerable only to its shareholders. My suggestion to RedHat was that they move to a different not-for-profit model, with the power base shifted to users who pay a membership fee. It would be a big sacrifice on the part of the current owners of RedHat, but I believe it would be a wonderful gift to the linux community. Mark. You're proposing this for Red Hat. That's fine, I'm proposing a similar model for Debian. Maybe the membership idea is a good idea, maybe it isn't. I can see some advantages, but I can also see some drawbacks. The key is to get these ideas out on the table. We'll never know until we try. As for what you said about two classes of developers, that doesn't make any sense. If developers are willing to work for free now, why wouldn't they be able to work for free if some of the core group are getting paid? I certainly wouldn't have a problem with it. /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: CDROM ISE-SCSI: Help please!
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Timothy Hospedales wrote: Hello! I have compiled my kernel with IDE-SCSI emmulation to try and burn CDs. However, I can no longer mount my CDROM drives using /dev/hd[x]. Can someone point me to the new devices they are being seen as, and|or the relevant manpages? /dev/sd[x], /dev/sg[x], /dev/scd[x] don't seem to work. :(. Thanks! Timothy I'm using SCSI emulation on my burner and CDROM drive, and they both work fine. I mount them with devices /dev/scd0 and scd1. I have noticed that you must have SCSI support, SCSI CD-ROM support, and SCSI generic support compiled *in* the kernel, not as modules. /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: substitute strings in text files (links in html files)
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Oliver Thuns wrote: Hello! How could I substitute a string (links) in html files with standard Linux (debian) tools? i.e. I want to change every http://one.domain.com in http://two.domain.com in some files and files in subdirs. sed -e s/two/one/g f1.html f2.html Don't redirect to your input file! You will lose it. If you need it to be the same name, just rename afterwards. The s/two/one/g substitutes two for one globally. Read sed's man page for more info. Oliver -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
Re: timezone = 1168 ???
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Edwin Martin wrote:
Hello,
I walked into a strange problem.
The variable timezone doesn't seem to work right. It should give
the timedifference between GMT and the local timezone.
I live in Amsterdam, so the difference should be (-)3600 seconds.
But timezone tells me the difference is -1168 seconds, or about
19 minutes! Bit strange, isn't it?
I use Debian Hamm, so my Linux is not that old. I can reproduce this
on two Hamm-computers, installed by different people.
Here's the code:
// timetest.c
#include stdio.h
#include time.h
main() {
time_t t;
t = time( NULL ); // dummy instruction for localtime()
localtime( t ); // sets tzname and timezone
printf( tzname=[%s,%s]\n, tzname[0], tzname[1] );
printf( timezone=%ld\n, timezone );
}
And this is the output:
tzname=[CET,CEST]
timezone=-1168
tzname Is correct, but timezone is not.
Can anybody explain this? Is this a bug in glibc or something?
Thanx,
Edwin Martin.
---
The world is moving so fast these days
that the person who says it can't be done
is generally interrupted by someone doing it.
-- Harry Emerson Fosdick
I've noticed a similar problem on my system. I first noticed me when
someone pointed out to me that my mail's time says -0600 (EST) which is,
of course, incorrect. It should read CST. I asked what was going on once,
but no one responded. I ran your little program and got this output:
tzname=[EST,CDT]
timezone=21600
That should be CST,CDT and 3600. Does anyone know what's going on here?
I almost forgot. I did not have this problem under bo. It began with hamm
and has continued into slink.
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Re: timezone = 1168 ???
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Oliver Elphick wrote: I can't comment on why you're getting EST instead of CST, but 21600 is surely correct for a 6 hour difference from UTC. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.I Corinthians 10:12 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null You're right, I don't know why I was counting minutes instead of seconds. The real problem is, of course, the EST. /--\ | pretzelgod | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | (Eric Gillespie, Jr.) | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |---*| | That's the problem with going from a soldier to a | | politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to | | people who six months ago you would've just shot. | | --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5| \--/
