Re: clear screen on logout
Colin Telmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Karl Ferguson wrote: At 09:50 AM 29/04/97 -0700, Ryan Shaw wrote: i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at the top. i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm sure there is a better way. any ideas? Best way (the way I do it) is to do this: clear /etc/motd However, make sure you make a backup copy of your original MOTD so you can then edit the file and after all the ascii characters put it back. Well, actually adding clear to motd will cause the screen to clear after the login has been entered. If you want a clean screen after every logout this should go into /etc/issue. The way I did this was: cd to /tmp (or some other reasonable place) clear temp1 cp /etc/issue ./temp2 cat temp1 temp2 issue cp issue /etc/issue After which a logout clears the screen. I first wanted to do this when I began using linux years ago and thought the solution was quite simple - edit /etc/issue and add 40 or so blank lines before what ever you want displayed with the login. That might be too simple though:) Cheers, Colin. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Has no one got any editors installed? I seem to recall they make these jobs a bit easier... :) Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: help with printing, please...
Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just type command lpr. Replace command with the command you want print That should be command | lpr. Otherwise you'll just get a file called `lpr', which of course one could print :) Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem: client/server file sharing
Michael J Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: something I need to do in the etc/passwd file to get the client to recognize the users and passwords? Make sure you run `make' in /var/yp after you add users to the system. This will update the NIS maps. Also, make sure you have the following line at the end of /etc/passwd- +:: and /etc/group +::: Cheers, Graeme
Re: extracting tar with nonexistant users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried extracting a tar tape on a machine which did not have the same users as the machine on which the tar tape was created, it resulted in all the files created being owned by root. I would have expected that it should have created the files with the same uid/gids as on the original machine. Yes. If you want to extract the same u/gids use the option --same-owner. Otherwise the files become the property of the extractor. Graeme
Re: debian in a lab
Hi Kay, We currently have 5 Debian clients running with /usr, /home and bits of /var (shared tfm and pk font files). The system runs really well over our not too busy 10Mbps ethernet. This may be because we have a good server, PPro 200MHz with 64MB and a fast-wide SCSI disk, so your milage might vary if your server's not so good (memory and disk are probably more important than CPU here). As to package control, I have to confess we did everything by hand, first getting a workable small installation on each local machine (about 100MB), then mounting /usr et al. over the top of this. At the moment our clients then have a local /usr with the most basic packages installed, but, in normal use, hidden under the NFS /usr. This is an inefficient use of disk space, I know, but does mean that the machines are usable in case of server failure, and it also simplifies upgrades with dpkg when necessary. Most things work without any trouble then, although on one very small disk machine I had to hand copy a few config files across (e.g., /etc/lynx.cfg). It is a pain to upgrade: we have to umount all network disks, run dselect, remount the network. The ideal situation, I think, would be for dselect to have an option where by it can be told that certain directories are NFS mounted. It should then do the installation as normal, but not copy files to these directories (or attempt to delete them upon uninstalling). Would that be hard to implement? I don't think so, though I never got farther than thinking... If one wanted to be really clever, one could get dselect on a client to download the server's list of installed packages and issue a warning if the client tried to install a different version of the package or a package that the server didn't have. I think that with those sort of changes Debian could be made very user friendly to NFS networks like ours. If I were in your shoes I'd test with one client, until everything works well, then export the package list and run dselect on each machine out of a script (mounting the packages NFS, of course!). I'd be interested to hear how it goes, because I think that our setup is a bit of a munge, even if it does work. Cheers, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: Seem to be hitting a snag.
Nathanael Nunes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am atempting to install debian on a 486. It seems to work fine execpt for the networking part. While booting up it sais NE200 Detected and Sounds like your network is not being setup properly at boot. Even after the card is detected the system needs to add routes in and out over it. This is usually done in /etc/init.d/network. Here's mine: #! /bin/sh ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 route add -net 127.0.0.0 IPADDR=132.248.6.33 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=132.248.6.0 BROADCAST=132.248.6.255 GATEWAY=132.248.6.254 ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST} route add -net ${NETWORK} route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1 IPADDR is your IP address, etc. You could look at the `ifconfig' and `route' man pages for more details, as well as the NET-2-HOWTO. Hope that helps, Graeme pgpL6z7GWPocO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Chmodding a whole directory tree
Thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I make a whole directory tree and it's files readable by everyone? I can't just chmod -R a+r dir because then they won't be able to cd to the directories, but I can't chmod -R a+rx dir because then all the files will be executable... Is there a way to make the directories +x without making all the files +x? Or better yet is there a way to copy the owner's permissions to the group and other's permissions? Thanks You might try something like this: #! /bin/bash for direc in `find . -type d` ; do chmod $direc a+rx done for file in `find . -type f` ; do chmod $file a+r done Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: Problem with Smail
Jonathan A. Buzzard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: now connected via modem. It delivers mail fine *except* the From: field= =2E Instead of reading [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Having read Just a thought, but what's your machine's entry in hosts? I have a similar config at home and my hosts looks like... 207.3.132.200 glasgow.lancaster.mxglasgow And my mail comes out as from glasgow.lancaster.mx just fine. I send it from Emacs, which grabs the host name as glasgow.lancaster.mx. Now, my guess is that if I had just glasgow in hosts, I'd get the same problem as you. What Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said would, I think, back this up. Hope that helps, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: LPD network printing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim O'Brien) writes: but not over the network. Locally, lpr produces a text output quite nicely. But over the network, nothing appears to happen. Using lpc and issuing stat, I find that the pritjob has queued locally, and says it's waiting for the other machine to start a queue. Running lpq tells me 'lpd: lp: Your host does not have line printer access This is a problem with the `lpr' package. My solution (the solution?) was upgrade to lprng (in the unstable tree, but I've had no problems). Some people have reported that it messes up Samba configurations, but that seemed to be surmountable too (and if you have no windoze hosts, it won't be a problem). In my experience `lprng' produces much nicer lpq output than plain vanilla lpr, and we're using sucessfully it here with 6 networked machines, all running Debian, of course. Mail me if you have any problems. Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: Login Logs
St. Johns Computer Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do you view the log of the past logins? St. Johns Computer Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] `last' should do the trick. `last user' for a specific user. Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: block diagrams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Sevenich) writes: I am using tkHTML to create a WebCourse and now need to include some block diagrams. Is anyone aware of a utility that will let me efficiently create such diagrams in gif or jpeg format? I am currently using tgif, but am wondering if something better is out there. Thanks, Richard Try `xfig'. It's a nice drawing package, which I think would do block diagrams without any trouble. And the figures can be exported as JPEGs, X11 bitmaps, etc. Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: HPLaserJet serie II: anomaly on first printed line in text mode
Jean-Paul Lacharme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I configured a HPLaserJet Serie II printer in text mode. My /etc/printcap entry is : I have an HPLJ II which was configured using magicfilter and works just fine. The good thing about magicfilter (and apsfilter) is that the set up filters for lots of different files. However, if you just want to print text, here's what's in /etc/printcap... lp|lj|hplj2|HP Laserjet 2P:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/usr/sbin/ljet2p-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: And the text portion of magicfilter is... # Default entry -- for normal (text) files. MUST BE LAST. default cat \eE\ek2G\e(0N \eE I strongly suggest installing magicfilter, though. Hope that helps, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: running script files.
John == John T Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John On Feb 7, A. M. Varon wrote It seems that shell scripts i have made in my debian distrib. doesn't run. you need to put ./ in front in order for it to execute. John Bash will only execute programs which are specified in your John path (to see what your path is, type echo $PATH). If . John is not in your path, then it won't execute programs in the John current directory. If you want to be able to execute things John in the current directory without specifying the ./ before John it, then try this (in bash): export PATH=$PATH:. This will John add . to the end of your path. To do this every time you John log in (without retyping it every time), put that line in John ~/.bashrc. This is a script that is run every time a shell John is started by you, and in particular, it is run when you log John in. -- - John Larkin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - John http://aij.st.hmc.edu/~jlarkin Bash will, by default, execute /etc/profile then ~/.bash_profile if it is a login shell, but it won't execute .bashrc. That is executed on a non-login invocation. As .bashrc has lots of stuff which one generally wants on logins as well, usually these lines appear in .bash_profile: # Now read from .bashrc, if it exists if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then source ~/.bashrc; fi That will ensure that all aliases, etc. are set up correctly. The info node Bash Startup Files contains more information. Cheers, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
gzip repair
Does anyone know if there exists a utility to try and repair dammaged gzip files? I have a tar.gz with 13 postscript files which were generated with an MSDOG graphics programme in the Dark Days, unforunately when I gunzip I get $ tar -xvzf figures.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- graeme/staff 23145 Apr 17 11:00 1996 fig1.ps -rw-r--r-- graeme/staff 848606 Apr 17 15:27 1996 fig10.ps -rw-r--r-- graeme/staff 11253 Apr 17 11:00 1996 fig11.ps -rw-r--r-- graeme/staff 1013152 Apr 17 11:00 1996 fig12.ps -rw-r--r-- graeme/staff 888283 Apr 17 11:00 1996 fig13.ps gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file tar: Unexpected EOF on archive file tar: Child returned status 1 I realise that fig13.ps is probably dead, but is there a way to get past the error and recover subsequent files? Thanks, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: Minimal Install
Mike == Mike Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike The problem is that I'm trying to do a debian install in Mike less than 100 megs. Of course this means forgoing things Mike like X, etc... But every time I go through dselect and Mike choose packages to remove, it refuses to comply! As I recall dselect will, by default, select all important and standard packages for installation. You should start off by deselecting all these packages by pressing - at the lines - New Important packages - and - New Standard packages -- That ought to be possible, as the simple base system is, itself, complete. The carefully build up what you really do need. I've done a debain install onto a 120MB disk, with 30MB swap, so I only had 90MB of space (70MB / and 20MB /var) (/usr, /home were to be mounted NFS). First time I selected too many files, ran out of disk space and dselect broke down badly. I had to restart from scratch, but the second time I selected even less files and everything worked fine. It certainly should be possible to do. 100MB is a respectable amount of space! Hope that helps, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | Received: (qmail 26108 invoked by uid 888); 6 Mar 1997 17:59:43 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 26098 invoked from network); 6 Mar 1997 17:59:40 - Received: from speech.braille.uwo.ca (HELO braille) (129.100.109.30) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 6 Mar 1997 17:59:39 - Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:51:11 -0500 (EST) From: Paul McDermott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubsribe
Re: help!
Jamie == Jamie Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jamie How can I access my floppy and cd-rom drives? Also, how Jamie can I access my ms-dos partition on my hard drive? Put the following lines in /etc/fstab... /dev/fd0/floppy autonoauto,user 0 0 /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 noauto,user 0 0 Then you should be able to mount floppies and cds with mount /floppy mount /cdrom Have a look at the fstab manual page to understand the options (you might have to change the /dev/cdrom entry to your cdrom device). For the msdos partition try something like /dev/hda3 /dosmsdos defaults0 0 Where /dev/hda3 you replace with your msdos partition. This should then get mounted at boot time (or become root and mount /dos). Make sure that an empty directry /dos exists! There are lots of options for msdos partitions as many unix features are unsupported. If you have any more problems, feel free to mail me. Cheers, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: gzip repair
Martin == Martin Stromberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if there exists a utility to try and repair dammaged gzip files? Martin Not necessarily so. Perhaps gunzip figures.tar.gz Martin followed by tar -xvf figures.tar works out all right. I have tried that, I get a unexpected EOF error when gunziping, so it's definately a corruption of the gzip file. There are definately 13 files in the tar archive. I even tried reading the binary into Emacs using the hexl mode, but to no avail. Thanks for the suggestion, though. Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: ucbmpeg and libX.so.6
Andrea == Andrea Arcangeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrea I have installed the ucbmpeg package: # dpkg -i Andrea /iomega/debian/ucbmpeg_1r2-2.deb Selecting previously Andrea deselected package ucbmpeg. (Reading database ... 25046 Andrea files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking Andrea ucbmpeg (from .../debian/ucbmpeg_1r2-2.deb) ... Setting Andrea up ucbmpeg (1r2-2) ... Andrea but if i try to run for example mpeg_play: Andrea # mpeg_play mpeg_play: can't load library Andrea '/usr/lib/libXt.so.6' Unknown error mpeg_play: can't load Andrea library '/lib/libXt.so.6' Unknown error mpeg_play: can't Andrea find library 'libXt.so.6' Andrea I have also linked /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 in /usr/lib Andrea and /lib but nothing is changed. Andrea Why? -- Andrea Arcangeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrea http://www.imola.queen.it/user/arcangeli/ Make sure that /usr/X11/lib exists in the file /etc/ld.so.conf, then run ldconfig as root. This should ensure that all your X11 libraries are known by the dynamic loader. My ld.so.conf looks like this (/lib and /usr/lib are included automatically): /usr/local/lib /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout /usr/X11R5/lib /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout /usr/X11R6/lib That should fix the problem :-) BTW, xanim plays mpeg movies and a lot more formats too, so I'd consider it a good alternative to ucbmpeg. Cheers, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)
Bruce == Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never placed my position as distribution manager on the line for this point. I just said that if you didn't want me to do my job, then say so. Bruce Indeed you didn't. I think the problem is mine. I've been Bruce able to delegate almost _everything_ about the project, but Bruce I am having a real problem delegating release control. So I Bruce won't delegate it again. I'm sorry that you were the Bruce casualty. This thread seems to have appeared in the debian-user lists a little like a bolt from the blue. I am a very keen Debian user and proselytiser and I'm sure that many of us are very concerned about the future of Debian re. what we have read. I don't want debian-user to become a war zone or a mud slinging forum, but perhaps a short statement from Brain and Bruce would be in order. What is the problem with XFree3.1 that to release Debian 1.2 with it would have been so disastrous? (I have a lot of machines running 3.1 connected to the Internet, I feel I should be told.) What was the nature of Ian's `invasion' into the ftp site? Has Bruce been `held hostage'? How does that reflect on the leadership of the Debian project? I really like Debian, both as an excellent high quality GNU/Linux distribution, and (I thought) as a model of cooperative, dispersed development. I really hope that it succeeds, in fact I hope to contribute to its success, but my _perception_ at the moment is of technical secrets being kept from users (re. XFree3.1) and of possibly dark and unpleasent personal problems dammaging the distribution's development. That, alas, really smacks of proprietary development models. Yours, concerned, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Please support free GNU: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu/ | | software.Debian/GNU Linux: http://www.debian.org/ | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blackout kills harddisk - owner pleads for help!
Mark == Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark Partition check: hda: hda1 hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 VFS: Cannot Mark open root device 08:01 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount Mark root fs on 08:01 Your floppy is trying to boot from the device with major number 8, minor number 1. This is sda1, the first SCSI disk, first partition. Try telling your floppy to boot linux from hda1: LILO Boot: linux root=/dev/hda1 That should do the trick. If your floppy isn't using LILO you should be able to use the debian boot disk instead. More long term, there must be a problem with LILO on your system. Once you get it up from a floppy have a look at /etc/lilo.conf. You should have something along the lines of... boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda1 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only However, the problem you described (`LI' and nothing else) I have seen when the master boot record doesn't seem to hand off properly to lilo on /dev/hda1. My fix was to use `boot=/dev/hda', and install lilo on the MBR, instead of the first sector of the partition. Remember to run lilo after editing lilo.conf. Hope that helps, Graeme PS. You can find out the major and minor numbers of a device with `ls -l' in /dev, e.g. abulafia$ ls -l /dev/sda* brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 0 Dec 31 1969 sda brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 1 Dec 31 1969 sda1 ... you can find out the device associated with a major number by greping... abulafia$ ls -l /dev | grep 8, brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 0 Dec 31 1969 sda brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 1 Dec 31 1969 sda1 ... -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Please support free GNU: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu/ | | software.Debian/GNU Linux: http://www.debian.org/ | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About XFree86 3.2 ...
Carnage == Carnage [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carnage Hello, When you installed XFree 3.2, did you experience Carnage any problems with the xrdb utility not working? When I Carnage first tried it, xrdb would exit with a can't run Carnage '/usr/lib/cpp -Dblablabla' with a whole bunch of '-D' Carnage switches following the 'cpp' part. I haven't tried. I'm in work right now (where I run Debian 1.1, XFree 3.1), but I'll give it a go at home over the weekend. Meanwhile... Q. Does it work with option -cpp /usr/bin/cpp, i.e. going straight to the binary and not through a symlink? Q. What are the permisions on cpp? That might give more of an idea. Cheers, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Please support free GNU: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu/ | | software.Debian/GNU Linux: http://www.debian.org/ | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: date and time
michael == Fundamental [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: michael my debian time is wrong:) The time in my cmos is correct, michael but the time that debian displays is incorrect After doing a `date -s Now' to get the system time right, use `clock -w' or `clock -wu' to set the CMOS clock. (The `u' option applies if you run a Universal Time clock.) Cheers, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Please support free GNU: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu/ | | software.Debian/GNU Linux: http://www.debian.org/ | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop mouse support
Some ideas: Did you recompile the kernel with support for the psaux device? If you compiled it as a module is the module loaded? (`lsmod' to find out - you should see psaux, and probably misc too.) If you're using the kerneld module loader have you done a `depmod -a' to sort out the module dependencies? Is /dev/mouse pointing to /dev/psaux? Hope that helps, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Please support free GNU: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu/ | | software.Debian/GNU Linux: http://www.debian.org/ | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 3.2??
XFree 3.2 is in the new unstable tree: /pub/debian/bo/binary-i386/x11 I recently upgraded to 3.2 and it hasn't crashed on me yet :) Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Please support free GNU: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu/ | | software.Debian/GNU Linux: http://www.debian.org/ | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: displaying pgp public key and xface in finger info???
Andrew == Andrew Y Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrew -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- What file do I put my Andrew PGP public key in to have it displayed in my finger info Andrew in Debian Linux? Any plain text file in .pgpkey should be displayed be cfingerd when a remote finger is done. You should extract your public pgp key with ASCII armour and put it in that file: pgp -kxa [your_name] temp This creates two files `temp', with the binary key, `temp.asc' with the ASCII key. Move `temp.asc' to `.pgpkey'. IMPORTANT: pgp generates files unreadable by the world (mode 600), make sure `.pgpkey' has mode 644 so that it can be accessed by the daemon. Otherwise finger says you have no pgp key! (Tripped me up for a while.) Cheers, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Please support free GNU: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu/ | | software.Debian/GNU Linux: http://www.debian.org/ | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
The way I read the dselect discussion my feelings are that most people are happy with what dselect does (even if they don't know it, cf. standard machine configs), but are perhaps not too enamoured of the programme's interface... Simon == Simon Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon and a great concept, but let's make it pretty. A lot of Simon good products have died through lack of beauty. ...however, while it's probably true that much _propriety_ software goes to the wall for being ugly, I wonder if this is necessarily the case with good free software? My feeling is that the percolation/propagation model for free software is far different to that of proprietry software. Here it's much more important _what_ the programme does then how it looks, because it tends to spread by word of mouth--users impressed with results--rather than glitzy ads. There is also the fact that there is much better support for getting over the unintuitiveness of such programmes (mailing lists such as this) and also I think it's in part due to the fact that the load balance between user and programme is much better, and more honest, than in proprietry models. Free software generally makes no claims to be intuitive (Point and click---at anything; don't worry! I'll read your mind (and if I can't, I'll try to change it...)), but rather to get a good job done (at which it generally succeeds). And what is intuitive anyway? It's only another type of learned behaviour, e.g. I always expect C-a to take me to the beginning of a command line and C-k to delete to the end; if it doesn't I'm not happy. Therefore I think the question is more of consistency than intuition with interfaces. So what are people's favorite programmes? How could they get dselect to work with that learned intuition? I use Emacs most of the time, so that would lead me to be more comfortable with a dselect that behaved like Emacs does (let's say `g' to scan for new packages from an existing packages.gz file, C-x C-f to open a new packages.gz file, `d' to deselect a package, etc.). Certainly pull down curses menus would be a good idea too (menus are generally intuitive because most people have used them). What do other people think? Is this a useful way to look at the problem? Thanks for your time, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp key ftp://ariel.igeofcu.unam.mx/pub/pgp/| | Please support free GNU: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu/ | | software for everyone. Debian/GNU Linux: http://www.debian.org/ | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I am looking for a program
These packages are in the Debian distribution: /pub/debian/non-free/binary-i386/unzip_5.12-13.deb /pub/debian/non-free/binary-i386/zip_2.01-13.deb /pub/debian/rex/binary-i386/misc/zip_2.01-14.deb /pub/debian/rex/binary-i386/misc/unzip_5.12-15.deb and should do the trick. Saludos desde Mexico, Graeme -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Docs for cron.daily?
cron.daily, etc run at the times specified in the file /etc/crontab . The format's pretty obvious, basically MINUTE, HOUR, DAY OF MONTH, MONTH, DAY OF WEEK, with a * meaning run always. # /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab # Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab' # command to install the new version when you edit this file. # This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs do. SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin # m h dom mon dow usercommand 42 6 * * * rootrun-parts /etc/cron.daily 47 6 * * 7 rootrun-parts /etc/cron.weekly 52 6 1 * * rootrun-parts /etc/cron.monthly * * * * * rootatrun -d -l 0.5 Thus, by default, cron.daily is run at 6:42am everyday, cron.weekly as 6:47am every Sunday and cron.monthly at 6:52 every 1st of all months. Hope that helps, Graeme -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]