So whos going to ALS

1999-10-05 Thread Johnie Ingram

... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community
pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in
Atlanta?  Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from Dallas?


netgod



mwr Oh, and my /proc/kcore is over 50MB -- can I remove it and get
  back that disk space?
calc mwr, yea do that :P


Re: apt-get error

1999-08-03 Thread Johnie Ingram

Jason == Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jason It's quite amazing that these days the archive has been so
Jason consistent that people have forgotten that option ;

And I bet that you really didn't want that missing file anyway.  :)

netgod




* Cyberlink wants the I survived makdev, but all I got was
  this lousy T-shirt T-shirt...


Re: ProFTPd feature kept me from logging in

1999-08-02 Thread Johnie Ingram

bruce == bruce  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

bruce I'd suggest it prompt for the login and password and then
bruce dump you with a message as soon as you succeed in logging in.

I've asked the proftpd authors to do tihs.

netgod




* Asterix commits heinous errors of grammar just to see if his teacher notices
* Asterix is rapidly turning into the Bastard CompSci Student From Hell


Re: [Re: [Re: deb pkg of X-server for Matrox Millennium G200 AGP] ]

1999-06-08 Thread Johnie Ingram

rathon == rathon  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

rathon zlib1g_1.1.3-2.deb depends on libc6(= 2.0.7u). On the Debian
rathon stable site, I found one called lic6(2.0.7.19981211-6).

rathon Is this the right one ? if not how do I get the right libc6..

I think thats the right libc6; only the dpkg author truly understands
how dpkg compares version numbers.


netgod


Re: [Re: deb pkg of X-server for Matrox Millennium G200 AGP]

1999-06-07 Thread Johnie Ingram

rathon == rathon  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

rathon deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/

rathon Brian, There is no many of the xservers at this website,
rathon which is for the Matrox Millennium AGP ??

xserver-svga_3.3.3.1-2_i386.deb

netgod


Re: Mattrox Millenium card

1999-05-28 Thread Johnie Ingram

Alec == Alec Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Alec The PCI version ought to work... I would venture to guess the
Alec AGP version might work too.

Hm.

(--) SVGA: PCI: Matrox MGA G200 AGP rev 1, Memory @ 0xe800, 0xe400
(--) SVGA: detected an SGRAM card
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1600x1200
(--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)

The Marvel G200 also works (for the features Linux supports), and I
would venture to guess the PCI versions work too.  :-)

netgod


Re: Linus Torvalds: Linux-2.2.4..

1999-03-25 Thread Johnie Ingram

shaleh == shaleh  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

shaleh acct.c: In function `sys_acct': acct.c:197: too few arguments
shaleh to function `filp_close' acct.c:203: too few arguments to
shaleh function `filp_close'

Add , NULL to the invocations of filp_close.

netgod


Linus Torvalds: Linux-2.2.4..

1999-03-24 Thread Johnie Ingram

I've put the source, patch, and debs of this at the usual place
(http://netgod.net/).  ISDN is compiled in now (I think).

netgod

--- Forwarded Message

Date:   Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:46:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kernel Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux-2.2.4..


There's a new 2.2.x version out there now.

As of 2.2.4, I shoul dbe synchronized with the Sparc[64] and PPC ports,
which is the major reason why the patch is pretty huge. Apart from the
architecture synchronizations, 2.2.4 does:

 - dumping core over NFS could do bad things. Core-dumping cleaned up and
   fixed.

 - various small TCP/IP buglets fixed. Linux got confused by hosts that
   didn't report any mss, and had problems with zero-sized fragments, etc.

 - various small, often silly bugs fixed (PC BIOS PCI buglet, alpha
   semaphores, bottom half interrupts, fork() returns wrong error code).

 - tons of driver updates

 - updated net scheduling code (CONFIG_NET_SCHED)

Most of the fixes aren't all that noticeable, but some of them can be
showstoppers depending on whether you've ever seen them.

I hope to hear reports of the new kernel, and I'm going on a two-week
vacation starting mid next week, so please give this a whirl.

Linus


Re: ftp-ing permissions not set correctly

1999-03-16 Thread Johnie Ingram

Brian == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Brian directory, they get the default file permissions of: -rw-r-
Brian I would like them to be: -rw-r--r-- How do I change this as
Brian default?  Is it something in the proftpd package?  Apache?
Brian Debian?  The specific user?

ProFTPD.  The Umask directive: http://www.proftpd.org/reference.html#Umask

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Re: Pine: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA

1999-03-03 Thread Johnie Ingram

Brian == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Brian cryptic messages, and often swarm the help-line with fears of
Brian viruses and other nonsense!  Can anyone help?

The only fix I know of is to use the pop3 daemon that comes with
imapd -- unlike other poppers Debian has, it quietly suppresses that
message.

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Johnie Ingram

Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The release of 2.1 Slink will happen: in Australia: at 11:00 AM
 ACT on Tuesday Mar 2

Hamish (If you mean Australian Central Time, that would be GMT+0930,
Hamish or GMT+1030 in summer (now). The eastern states are
Hamish GMT+1000/1100 as above.)

I'm not sure what it means -- the format was lifted from the hamm freeze
announcement from a year ago.  :-)   When I asked #linuxaus if ACT was
still +1000, someone told me to TZ=Australia/Canberra and date
--rfc-822 said +1100.

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Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-26 Thread Johnie Ingram

TIME:  Slink release - 3 days 1 hours

We are mere hours away from the largest IRC party Debian has ever
thrown -- bigger than Bo, bigger even than Hamm.  :-)

The release of 2.1 Slink will happen:

in Australia:   at 11:00 AM ACT on Tuesday Mar 2
in Europe:  at 0:00 midnight UTC on Tuesday Mar 2
in America: at 7:00 PM EDT on Monday Mar 1
   4:00 PM PDT

Debian's developers and users are already gathering on IRC channel
#debian, irc.debian.org.  Everyone is invited for the Great Event,
which will begin 2 hours before and probably last well into the night
-- or afternoon as the case may be.

There's a live countdown page at http://netgod.net/ which will also
cover the LinuxWorld Expo that begins the same day.  Debian
developers will be there in force to give away thousands of CDs.

Over 80 people are on the #debian channel already.  If you'd like to
join us just point your IRC client at one of these servers:

irc.us.debian.org  irc.eu.debian.org
irc.au.debian.org  irc.linux.org

(See http://www.openprojects.net/services/irc.html for more servers.)

And since irc.debian.org is linked with the Linux Internet Support
Cooperative (http://www.linpeople.org/), there are plenty of experts
around to help with things like ppp, sound, and X setup.

If you don't already have a linux console IRC client, try installing
this:

ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/net/bitchx_75-2.deb

And invoking it like this:

bitchx -c#debian

Chat clients for other operating systems are available at
http://www.irchelp.org/. 

Hope to see you there.  :-)

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Re: dselect and downloading kernel

1999-02-16 Thread Johnie Ingram

ktb == ktb  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

ktb OK I took a look at ftp.debian.org and I see no kernel package.
ktb Where would I find a deb 2.2.1 package?  I found a kernel package
ktb at ftp://ftp.netgod.net/linux/v2.2/ but can dselect can't handle
ktb this?  I've looked all over the debian site, I can't believe it
ktb isn't listed there.  Thanks, Kent

To install a individually, use dpkg --install.  Dselect can only
install from complete archives.  We'll put a kernel-image-2.2.2 in
potato once slink is released, which is just under 13 days away.

I assume you'll all be at the mandatory IRC party?  :-)

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Debian FTP Security Update

1999-02-10 Thread Johnie Ingram

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

A security problem has been found in proftpd and wu-ftpd-academ.  It
allows, once logged in, to potentially execute commands as root.  This
is the Palmetto bug reported by Netect, and should be fixed as soon as
possible.  (http://www.netect.com/advisory_0209.html)


Debian 2.0 
- 

PROFTPD:

i386:
   wget http://netgod.net/debian/security/proftpd_1.2.0pre1-2_i386.deb
   dpkg --install proftpd_1.2.0pre1-2_i386.deb

m68k:
   wget http://netgod.net/debian/security/proftpd_1.2.0pre1-2_m68k.deb
   dpkg --install proftpd_1.2.0pre1-2_m68k.deb

WU-FTPD:

i386:
   wget http://netgod.net/debian/security/wu-ftpd-academ_2.4.2.16-12.2_i386.deb
   dpkg --install wu-ftpd-academ_2.4.2.16-12.2_i386.deb

Debian 2.1 Beta
- -

   The slink and potato releases already include a secure proftpd
   1.2.0pre1-1. For wu-ftpd download and install the package above.


These packages will be in place for regular dselect and APT upgrades
by tomorrow.

The wu-ftpd package above includes the security patch from Olaf Kirch.
The proftpd package is source from Flood's CVS which includes the
patch at ftp.proftpd.org.  Thanks to Jordan Ritter of Netect for
detailing this bug, and to these authors for fixing it.


6fa9921e694972015d4e3d34184c4f2b  proftpd_1.2.0pre1-2_i386.deb
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Slink CDs available

1999-02-03 Thread Johnie Ingram

With the Bug count under 20 now, I figure it's time for some final
testing of Slink.

For CD beta testers I've put the 2 i386 binary and 2 source images up
on a server in Michigan (US), accessible via ftp, http, and rsync:

-rw-r--r--   588021760 1999/02/02 20:17:16 slink1.raw
-rw-r--r--   546574336 1999/02/02 20:20:57 slink2.raw
-rw-r--r--   632743936 1999/02/02 20:25:00 slink3.raw
-rw-r--r--   590200832 1999/02/02 20:29:00 slink4.raw
total size is 2357541044

Just the first 2 are necessary to test the install, and if you're
lucky you can get by with 1.  :-)  They're completely unofficial, but
made with Steve McIntyre's slink-cd deb, and so should approximate
what the final CDs will look like.

If you're just testing the 2.1 upgrade, and not the CDs themselves,
all you need is the APT deb in /debian/dists/slink/main/upgrade-i386
on any mirror.  Put this in /etc/apt/sources.list:

   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free
   deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US

And then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.

The links for these images are on my site, http://netgod.net/ --
instructions on burning them are at http://cdimage.debian.org/ and in
cdrecord docs.  Please let me know what problems remain, or if you
prefer pre-burned CDR.

BTW the vote for the next Debian Project Leader is almost over (17
hours to go) and I'll post the pic of the winner.  :-)  The nominees
are BenC, dark, Knghtbrd, and wichert.

See you on IRC.

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linux 2.2.0: System is 666kB

1999-01-26 Thread Johnie Ingram

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Hm, now theres a worrisome compile message.  :-)

Anyway, for you early adopters, I've made source and debs available at:

ftp.netgod.net/linux/v2.2

Heres the checksums:

ca629746d5baa1f3024a780312c96e28  kernel-doc-2.2.0_2.2.0-1_all.deb
40d6ddb94ac0c0239a2a5b16818cbbdb  kernel-headers-2.2.0_2.2.0-1_i386.deb
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35fa180e872cd6180ae0cab22730938f  kernel-source-2.2.0_2.2.0-1.dsc
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Re: Adding NEW Apache Modules: Completely confused.

1999-01-15 Thread Johnie Ingram

Lyndon == Lyndon Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lyndon file. They also don't seem to have documented this process. So
Lyndon you see I have the Apache way, which is documented, and the
Lyndon Debian way, which isn't.

The Debian way is now the Apache way, documented in the 1.3.x Manuals 
(the apache-doc package).  We've used runtime loadable modules since
before it was officially supported, and apxs written.

Lyndon I have a few questions.

Lyndon 1) Is it possible to just run configure and make a standard
Lyndon Linux binary of Apache 1.3.3 the way Apache.org does it? Will
Lyndon it work? Will the various config files be compatable? If not
Lyndon what would I need to change to make this new binary work.

Technically yes -- but its a great hassle, as configure doesnt have a
predefined setup that exactly matches what Debian needs, which is
this:

./configure --enable-shared=max --enable-rule=SHARED_CHAIN \
   --enable-suexec --enable-module=status \
   --suexec-caller=www-data --enable-module=most \
   --enable-module=log_referer --enable-module=log_agent \
   --enable-module=auth_db --enable-module=auth_dbm \
   --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib/apache/1.3 \
   --sysconfdir=/etc/apache
   --localstatedir=/var/state/apache \
   --runtimedir=/var/run --logfiledir=/var/log/apache \
   --proxycachedir=/var/cache/apache --target=apache \
   --includedir=/usr/include/apache-1.3 \
   --datadir=/var/www --without-confadjust

An easier solution is to get the Debian source package and add your
module to that, instead of to the tarball from Apache.   :-)

Lyndon 2) What is involved in adding this new module to the Dynamic
Lyndon module loading scheme used by Debian? Are there special
Lyndon libraries needed? What else will I need to have, what compile
Lyndon flags should I use and which config files are effected?

Ah, this is the easiest solution: just install apache-dev and do this:

 apxs -c your_module.c

Which will produce the .so file needed.  To activate it, add a
LoadModule line in httpd.conf that refers to the file.

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Debian 2.0 Release later today!

1998-07-23 Thread Johnie Ingram

We are mere hours away from the largest IRC party Debian has ever
thrown, as the release of 2.0 hamm will happen:

in Austrailia: at 10:00 AM ACT on Friday Jul 24
in Europe:  at 0:00 midnight UTC on Friday Jul 24
in America: at 8:00 PM EDT on Thursday Jul 23
   5:00 PM PDT

Debian's developers and users are already gathering on IRC channel
#debian, irc.debian.org.  Everyone is invited for the Great Event,
which will begin 2 hours before and probably last well into the night
-- or afternoon as the case may be.

There's also a live countdown page at http://www.netgod.net/.

For new users, the install floppies will be on all of Debian's mirrors
at the moment of release.  And since irc.debian.org is linked with the
Linux Internet Support Cooperative (http://www.linpeople.org/), there
will be experts on IRC to help with things like ppp, sound, and X
setup.

People with Debian releases older than this hamm can upgrade easily
after installing the next-generation package manager, APT, which was
just put on Freshmeat. (Its perhaps better known by its secret
codename, deity.)

To join us, point your favorite IRC client at a server that sounds
close:

irc.us.debian.org   irc.eu.debian.org
irc.au.openprojects.net irc.linux.org

The long wait is over.  :-)


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Re: HELP! can't get my email!

1998-06-25 Thread Johnie Ingram

Brian == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Brian Report from server Err Maillock: 'var/spool/pop/bmorgan.pop'

Sounds like a qpopper bug I ran into in October 96; pity its still
there.  My solution was to install cucipop (packaging it in the
process).  ;-)

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Debian 2.0 Beta Celebration tomorrow

1998-06-22 Thread Johnie Ingram

Since Debian's hamm distribution will become 2.0 Beta on 00:00 UTC
June 24th, there will of course an IRC party on irc.debian.org at that 
time -- its 8 p.m EDT Tuesday.

And for your amusement, theres a live countdown timer at:

http://www.netgod.net/

At least two CD vendors will have Gold CDRs available the same day,
and hamm can be downloaded from the ftp mirrors (listed on
www.debian.org).

This is the last phase before final release, which will happen when
2.0 has no serious bugs.  And since 30 bugs were closed last week, and
only 66 remain, that can't be far off.  :-)

The IRC servers:

irc.us.openprojects.net -- north america
irc.eu.openprojects.net -- europe
irc.au.openprojects.net -- austrailia

The client software:

http://www.irchelp.org/

The chant:

D 2 D 2 D 2   ;-)


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Re: Missing packages?

1998-06-12 Thread Johnie Ingram

 What missing package causes the following in source configure
 scripts?: 'checking for working makeinfo.. missing'

The makeinfo comes in tetex-bin, part of the tetex suite.

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Re: [Hamm Install] package dependency problems

1998-06-11 Thread Johnie Ingram

Francois == Francois Gouget?= us-ascii writes:

Francois 5.004.04-2)'. I tried to find another package
Francois that would provide 'perl' but did not find

Perl itself provides perl:

  ./hamm/hamm/binary-i386/interpreters/perl_5.004.04-6.deb

Francois 'libg++' not the one I expected. I could not
Francois find anything that ould povide 'libg++27'.

Sounds like a release-critical bug in ddd-smotif.

Francois * I'm not sure apache should depend on perl. I

head -1 /usr/sbin/apacheconfig  :-)

The scripts in that package will not work unless more perl is
installed than just whats in perl-base.  More power was needed, and
the logic was people running apache would probably have the full perl
installed anyway.

Francois installation of tcl8.0, tk8.0 which I could
Francois 'dpkg --configure' manually without
Francois problem. Why ?

Both dselect and apt are prone to giving up without doing a final dpkg
--pending --configure.
 
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Re: [Hamm Install] package dependency problems

1998-06-11 Thread Johnie Ingram

Francois == Francois Gouget?= us-ascii writes:

Francois (a rather bad name imho), not perl. perl-base
Francois replaces perl which I guess means it provides
Francois it (once the install worked out ok). Or maybe
Francois the package perl provides perl because it is
Francois called perl then.

Packages do indeed provide themselves, this doesn't have to be
explictly stated.  And counterintuitively, replaces means it gets to
overwrite some files that belongs to perl, not that it actually
replaces perl -- that would be providing it.  ;-)

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Re: Apache package q

1998-05-17 Thread Johnie Ingram

George == George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

George base-passwd.  The trouble is that base-passwd overwrites
George /etc/passwd ... or at least it used to the last time I screwed
George up and selected it.

It no longer does this.

George Why is Apache dependant on that package?  If I select it, I
George bomb the system. I am left in a situation where I can not
George upgrade Apache without creating a bunc of work re-creating my

It does this to ensure the www-data user and group are created
correctly.  But if your existing Apache installation works, you can
force the new package to install without side-effects.


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IRC Interview with Manish Singh

1998-05-15 Thread Johnie Ingram

Saturday, May 16th at 2200 UTC, 6 pm eastern, 3 pm pacific, at
irc.some.net -- be there or be square

--

From http://some.net/forums.html:

   Saturday, May 16th: 6PM EDT

 * This week we welcome Manish Singh, aka yosh on IRC. Yosh is the
   current maintainer of the GIMP, a photoshop like graphics
   program for *nix. He will be speaking about how GIMP has been
   progressing over the past few months, and will be available for
   questions. If we're lucky, he'll talk about ducks too. Please note
   that this forum has been moved up to 6PM EST.


Forum Guidelines

   SomeNet forums consist of two channels. The first channel is
   for interested parties to ask questions, and reply/give
   comments. The second channel is for the guest speaker to
   answer questions (this channel will be moderated so that
   only the speaker can talk). Channel names will be
   announced on the network an hour before the event starts.

   We ask that you observe the following protocol when participating:

 + Ask clear, concise questions relevant to the subject matter.
 + Try not to duplicate a question that has already been addressed.
 + Please be patient and give the speaker enough time to answer
   questions fully.
 + In general, be courteous to the speaker and the other
   participants. We appreciate your assistance in keeping the
   forums clean and high quality. 


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Logs of Eric S. Raymond forum

1998-05-11 Thread Johnie Ingram

Logs of Saturday's open source forum with Eric S. Raymond are now 
on the some.net website:

http://www.some.net/transcripts/esr-980509-opensource.log


ESR ---

lilo   Tylenol (a developer with the gimp project) asks: doesn't the
 Open Group sort of taint the use of the word open?
esrWe thought about that.  But (a) when we cooked up the term,
 they weren't being twits about the X11 license yet, and (b)
 we kicked around a lot of alternatives and couldn't do better
 than open source ... a decision the Freeware Summit
 ratified, BTW.


esrI guess one message I have is that our little factional fights
 don't matter.  We know who the real enemy is, and it's not
 even Bill Gates.  It's inertia, laziness, bad habits, and the
 closed corporate mindset. 


Teknix Do you think their embracing of Open Source will bring others
 with them? 
esrI'm talking with three Fortune 500 companies right now, and
 none of them is Netscape or Corel. 


Culus  esr: Ooh, good question, How is netscape feeling post-open source?
esrCulus: They're damn happy.  Top software engineers are
 banging on their door looking for jobs.


esr   In the long run, what Bill wants won't matter.  If economic
reality favors the open source model (as I believe it
generally does) we'll win. If it doesn't we'll lose.  Either
way Bill Gates is a symptom, not a cause.  Treating him as a
primary cause is a mistake.



Stephen Tweedie ---

lilo  while we're waiting, maybe we can talk with Stephen just a bit
on his experiences in working in the Linux kernel


sct   Of course, there were a lot of _very_ busy people on the
kernel even then: 
sct   for a while, we had EYC, the Eric Youngdale Consortium, a
nickname Eric got because he was _obviously_ submitting more
patches than any one person could generate. :) 


sct   As far as the filesystem is concerned, there will probably not
be much more in 2.2, simply due to the proximity of the code freeze 
sct   although I'm going to try to get raw device access in if we can.
sct   But there are several very important strands of filesystem
extensions going on which we plan to start integrating early
on in 2.3 
sct   Ted Ts'o has started work on doing btree directory support,
and hopefully we can extend that to encompass btree mapping of
file extents
sct   That will make very large directories and very large sparse
files work rather well on Linux.
sct   Journalling support should also be going in (miguel has been
contributing to some of the design work here, too).
sct   Finally there are existing extensions such as the e2compress
and ACL support which need to be merged, and the 64-bit file
support. 


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IRC Interview with Eric S. Raymond

1998-05-09 Thread Johnie Ingram

Saturday, May 9th at midnight UTC, 8 pm eastern, 5 p.m pacific, at
irc.some.net -- be there or be square

--

From http://some.net/forums.html:

 * Eric Raymond of opensource.org and author of The Cathedral and
   the Bazaar will be answering general open source questions
   starting at 8pm EST. Please read the forum guidelines below if
   you plan to attend. 

Forum Guidelines

   SomeNet forums consist of two channels. The first channel is
   for interested parties to ask questions, and reply/give
   comments. The second channel is for the guest speaker to
   answer questions (this channel will be moderated so that
   only the speaker can talk). Channel names will be
   announced on the network an hour before the event starts.

   We ask that you observe the following protocol when participating:

 + Ask clear, concise questions relevant to the subject matter.
 + Try not to duplicate a question that has already been addressed.
 + Please be patient and give the speaker enough time to answer
   questions fully.
 + In general, be courteous to the speaker and the other
   participants. We appreciate your assistance in keeping the
   forums clean and high quality. 

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There are IRC clients and docs at http://www.irchelp.org.  The usual
channel for Debian, for before and after the forum, is #debian at
irc.debian.org.


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mozilla.deb, get it while its hot

1998-04-01 Thread Johnie Ingram

A Mozilla 5 package by Joey Hess is now in our master Incoming, and
will be soon at an Incoming mirror near you.  :-) You can already get
it from:

 ftp://ftp1.us.debian.org/pub/debian/Incoming/mozilla-smotif_5.0b1-0.0_i386.deb

To run it you need libc6, libstdc++2.8, xlib6g, and xpm4g installed.
(The 0.0 version means it still needs a permanent maintainer.)

And yes, its actually usable, and has at least one convenient new
feature in the Window menu.  There are some glitches in HTML rendering
though.

In addition to Incoming, this site also has a full mirror of the
mozilla source (/mozilla/1998-03-31/) and an ISO image of Debian 2.0
suitable for burning to CDR (/CD/Debian-2.0.iso, updated nightly at
0200 GMT).

It looks like the Debian and Openscape developers will work
side-by-side on this -- irc.openscape.org and irc.debian.org are the
same network.  :-)


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Intent to Party like its 1998

1998-03-15 Thread Johnie Ingram

TIME: hamm freeze - 05:13H


After months of work, hundreds of uploads, thousands of bugs, and even
last-moment hardware problems, Debian 2.0 hamm is finally being
frozen for release in April.

To celebrate there's going to be an online IRC party, starting now and
building up till 7 p.m. Eastern ( GMT) -- the moment the freeze
day begins.  Over 15 Debian Developers are aready present, including
one of the authors of deity, the next-generation package GUI.

If you'd like to join us just point your IRC client at server
irc.debian.org, channel #debian.  If you don't already have a linux
console IRC client, try installing one of these:

(1.3)  ftp1.us.debian.org/debian/Incoming/bitchx_0.74p2-4bo1.1_i386.deb
(2.0)  ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/net/bitchx_0.74p2-7.deb

And invoking it like this:

bitchx -c#debian

And IRC clients for other operating systems are available at
http://www.irchelp.org/.

Hope to see you there.  :-)


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Hamm CD images available

1998-03-09 Thread Johnie Ingram

To facilitate testing of Debian 2.0 I've set my ftp site to make CD
images every night at 9 p.m. EST; the image can be downloaded as
something like:

ftp://ftp1.us.debian.org/Debian-2.0-980309-0929Z.iso

This is a T1 to Merit, who peers with MCI and others in Chicago.

Please let me know of problems on the usual channel at irc.debian.org,
so we can get bugs fixed quicky.

These completely unofficial images are made with hacked debian-cd
source combined with custom scripts to get around the symlink-to-bo
problem (they basically take the brute-force approach, making a second
copy of the site).  The image is unavailable during the 45-minute
build period.

I'm tweaking this script at the moment because main + contrib is just
slightly too large to actually burn to CD.  Something has to go, and
it isn't main  ;-)

There are conflicting reports from last week on whether the resulting
CD is bootable or not, so your mileage may vary.  Actual pre-burned
gold CDs will be available again once I get my new 4x Yamaha
CD-writer.


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19980302 Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1998-03-03 Thread Johnie Ingram

  Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   $Id: prospective-packages.html,v 1.4 1998/03/03 06:18:57 johnie Exp $
   
   
   This document is intended to identify areas that need your
   contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
   often, so it supplements the regular Debian Developer documentation:
   [1]http://www.debian.org/developers_corner.html. This document
   provides the current list of packages which are either:
   
 * orphaned,
 * withdrawn from the unstable distribution,
 * maintained but its developer would like to find a new person,
 * currently being worked on to include in the distribution, and
 * good ideas -- they would be nice to have, but no one is yet
   working on them.
   
   New versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP:
   
 * [2]http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html
 * [3]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.txt
 * [4]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.html
   
   Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to the WNPP
   maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Please mention which version of this
   document your comments refer.
   
   Try to change the subject of your mail to reflect the packages you're
   talking about, it makes it easier for to sort out all Re:
   Work-Needing and Prospective Packages emails. A suggested subject
   line reads WNPP: removing foopackage or WNPP: working on
   barpackage. Thanks.
   
 _
   
Recent Changes
   
Since version 1998/02/23

 * The vtwm, VRweb, newtonlink, and Xcopilot packages are now
   uploaded.
   
   Packages needing a new maintainer
 * The sendmail, bind, cfengine, libfcgi2, vtprint, iplogger, and
   yabasic packages are offered by Johnie Ingram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The xfractint, fractxtra, xtron, fte, and gmod packages are
   offered by Riku Voipio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The WorldVU-Atlantis BBS package, giftool, and midiplay are no
   longer being worked on.
 * The metrox installer package is now orphaned.
   
   Packages adopted
 * The TIS firewall toolkit has been adopted by Christoph Martin
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   
   Packages being created
 * 'Chain Reaction,' a strategy game for 2 - 4 players, is being
   worked on by Alistair Cunningham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * A urlview package is being created by Alistair Cunningham
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * Cold Project, A free Multi User Virtual Environment, is being
   worked on by Fabien Ninoles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The gpc pascal compiler, currently withdrawn, is being worked on
   by Patrick Ouellette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * A perlindex package is being created by Manoj Srivastava
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   
   Packages someone could package
 * Pathchar, a device to measures bandwidth of remote pipes.
 * The pnmhisteq add-on that came with older versions of netpbm.
 * A free English dictionary (www.dict.org).
   
   
 _
   
   Orphaned packages
   
   An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer.
   Please inform the WNPP maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) via e-mail:
   
 * when you find that you need to orphan a package,
 * when you believe that the following list is incomplete, or
 * when you would like to maintain one of these packages.
   
   The following packages are orphaned:
   
   By the Debian QA Group (debian-qa@lists.debian.org):
   
 * 9wm -- An emulation of the Plan 9 window manager 8-1/2
 * bibindex -- fast lookup in BibTeX bibliography data bases
 * mcvert -- Tool to deal with specially encoded Macintosh files
   (non-free)
 * pari -- A package for number theorists (non-free)
 * paridoc -- The documentation and examples for the PARI system
   (non-free)
 * rc -- An implementation of the ATT Plan 9 shell.
 * sam -- A plan9 derived text editor
 * ucbmpeg -- MPEG video encoder and analysis tools (non-free)
 * ucbmpeg-play -- Software-only MPEG video player (non-free)
 * xabacus -- Implementation of the classic Chinese abacus
 * xbattle -- A concurrent multi-player battle strategy game
 * xmcpustate -- Displays CPU/Swap/Memory/Network load
   
   By Andreas Jellinghaus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * The KDE Suite (contrib)
 * giflib -- shared library for GIF images (non-free)
   
   By Patrick Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * cfs -- cryptographic filesystem (non-us)
 * mailpgp (non-us

Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux

1998-02-16 Thread Johnie Ingram

  Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   $Id: prospective-packages.html,v 1.1 1998/02/16 23:31:33 johnie Exp $
   
   
   This document is intended to identify areas that need your
   contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
   often, so it supplements the regular Debian Developer documentation:
   [1]http://www.debian.org/developers_corner.html. This document
   provides the current list of packages which are either:
   
 * orphaned,
 * withdrawn from the unstable distribution,
 * maintained but its developer would like to find a new person,
 * currently being worked on to include in the distribution, and
 * good ideas -- they would be nice to have, but no one is yet
   working on them.
   
   New versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP:
   
 * [2]http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html
 * [3]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.txt
 * [4]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.html
   
   Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to the WNPP
   maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Please mention which version of this
   document your comments refer.
   
   Try to change the subject of your mail to reflect the packages you're
   talking about, it makes it easier for to sort out all Re:
   Work-Needing and Prospective Packages emails. A suggested subject
   line reads WNPP: removing foopackage or WNPP: working on
   barpackage. Thanks.
   
 _
   
Recent Changes
   
Since version 1.69 1998/02/09

 * Document converted to new DOCTYPE specification (comments on the
   new style are welcome).
 * Steve McIntyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has adopted seyon
   and sigrot.
 * Johnie Ingram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has adopted cfengine.
 * Tony Mancill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has adopted wanpipe.
   
   
 _
   
   Orphaned packages
   
   An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer.
   Please inform the WNPP maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) via e-mail:
   
 * when you find that you need to orphan a package,
 * when you believe that the following list is incomplete, or
 * when you would like to maintain one of these packages.
   
   The following packages are orphaned:
   
   By the Debian QA Group (debian-qa@lists.debian.org):
   
 * 9wm -- An emulation of the Plan 9 window manager 8-1/2
 * bibindex -- fast lookup in BibTeX bibliography data bases
 * byacc -- The Berkeley LALR parser generator
 * csh -- Shell with C-like syntax, standard login shell on BSD
   systems
 * ftplib -- Library of callable ftp routines
 * mcvert -- Tool to deal with specially encoded Macintosh files
   (non-free)
 * netcat -- TCP/IP swiss army knife
 * pari -- A package for number theorists (non-free)
 * paridoc -- The documentation and examples for the PARI system
   (non-free)
 * rc -- An implementation of the ATT Plan 9 shell.
 * sam -- A plan9 derived text editor
 * ucbmpeg -- MPEG video encoder and analysis tools (non-free)
 * ucbmpeg-play -- Software-only MPEG video player (non-free)
 * xabacus -- Implementation of the classic Chinese abacus
 * xbattle -- A concurrent multi-player battle strategy game
 * xmcpustate -- Displays CPU/Swap/Memory/Network load
 * xodo -- Odometer tracking the distance travelled by your mouse
 * xpostitplus -- PostIt(tm) notes for X windows
   
   By Andreas Jellinghaus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * The KDE Suite (contrib)
 * giflib -- shared library for GIF images (non-free)
   
   By Patrick Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * cfs -- cryptographic filesystem (non-us)
 * saytime -- Say the time through your soundcard
 * sniffit -- System administrator TCP/IP snooping tool
 * mailpgp (non-us)
   
   By Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * Kmodplayer -- KDE module player (non-free)
   Ideally, it should be adopted by the same person who takes KDE.
   
   By Steve Dunham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * xtar-dmotif -- Motif front end for tar
 * xtar-smotif -- Motif front end for tar, with static libXm
   
   By Helmut Geyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * ghostview -- The GNU PostScript viewer (X11 frontend to
   Ghostscript)
 * xxgdb -- A X front-end to the GNU debugger gdb
   
   By Orn E. Hansen
   
 * xmailtool -- The good old BSD style mail reader
   
   By Yves Arrouye ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * psptools -- Tools for PostScript printers and devices

Re: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux

1997-12-25 Thread Johnie Ingram

Boris == Boris D Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Boris Does anybody working on the egcs package? If not, I would like
Boris to try.

The egcs package is currently being maintained by Galen Hazelwood
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  Binaries for i386, sparc, and powerpc
architecures are in project/experimental.

Boris Also I am going to do some research on the Scheme-C scheme.

Oh, good.


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Re: Sparc Debian?

1997-09-02 Thread Johnie Ingram

Michael == Michael Solomani Mifsud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Michael  Where can I get more info on Debian Sparc?  I had a quick
Michael look at the debian.org.au mirror and couldn't spot anything
Michael relative in the index.  Also, does this build of debian have
Michael its own setup disks like standard debian?  Thanks.

Theres some info in ftp.debian.org:/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-sparc ---
Install instructions and images.  It can't boot from disks yet.
Instead you need to have a machine on the net already set up to be an
NFS-root and rarp server for it.


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Re: Sparc Debian?

1997-08-27 Thread Johnie Ingram
absolutely need, like bitchx-bin and linux_logo.  :-) Most of it is
going smoothly.  Emacs is the notable exception -- it seems to have a
Source-depends on itself.  And with my bogomip rating (50), load level
(4), and disk throughput (pathetic), every attempt to debian/rules
binary takes over 20 min.  :-(

Incidentially linux_logo source seems to need a sparc patch.

Once everyting is working I'll go back and do everything for real,
with libc6 instead of libc5.


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Re: Compiling Qpopper

1997-08-27 Thread Johnie Ingram

Bruno == Bruno O M Simoes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Bruno  Hi all; I'm compiling qpopper and everything's fine.  But, to
Bruno enable it to recognize shadow, it must to have a shadow
Bruno library.  It complains: #ld: cannot open -lshadow: No such file
Bruno or directory What package must I install, or where do I find

You need to install libc.  :-)  Or put another way, the shadow library
is built in, so just remove the reference to -lshadow.

Same deal if u bomb out on a -lcrypt -- its separate in libc6, but
built into libc5.


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Re: Sendmail dsc file?

1997-08-14 Thread Johnie Ingram

Nathan == Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Nathan  Hmm ... I tried a 'dpkg-source -x sendmail*dsc' and got this
Nathan message: dpkg-source: error: tarfile
Nathan `./sendmail_8.8.7.orig.tar.gz' contains object
Nathan (sendmail-8.8.7/FAQ) not in expected directory
Nathan (sendmail-8.8.7.orig)

As others have doubtless said by now, you need to use the dpkg package
from hamm to unpack it.  Debian is switching to pristine sources for
the next major release -- the original tarball from the author no
longer has to be repacked as sendmail-8.8.7.orig just to suit the
whims of older dpkgs.

Instead only the filename was changed.

This means, not coincidentially, that the source code on the Debian
site now matches the PGP signature published by the author.


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Re: Host/nslookup, sendmail, bash

1997-07-31 Thread Johnie Ingram

Craig == Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Craig the real nslookup is in the bind package. it should probably
Craig be separated from that and either put into an nslookup package
Craig or included in the dnsutils package.

This was just done earlier today for dnsutils 8.1.1-2, now in
Incoming.  It contains nslookup, dig, and host, and can be
installed on any system which has libc6 (even if an older bind is
being used).


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Re: what's the better mta?

1997-07-31 Thread Johnie Ingram

jghasler == jghasler  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

jghasler Perhaps someone who has gotten into sendmail could write a
jghasler sendmail.cf generator?  I know about m4.  It helps, but not
jghasler enough.

Actually this is precisely what Debian's sendmailconfig is supposed
to do, at least for the most common cases.  This is run during
installation, so ideally people can get sendmail going without having to
learn the m4 config language right away.


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Meet the Linpeople (Was: Re: EFNet in debian circle)

1997-07-21 Thread Johnie Ingram

Chad == Chad D Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Chad We currently have Undernet , Linpeople and EFNet linked together
Chad through Bots.  Giving people on one irc network access to help
Chad from the other irc networks.

It occurs to me that an orientation might be helpful here.  Here is a
list of notable net personalities on the Debian and help channels, so
everyone will know who they are talking to.

Plus some help on getting a Linux IRC client set up is in the
LISC mini-HOWTO (zmore /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Online-Support.gz).
Basically, install either ircii or bitchx-bin, in the net section.


--- on channel #debian (efnet, undernet, linpeople)

Debian Deities:

Che_Fox Ben Gertzfield
Culus   Jason Gunthorpe


Debian Developers:

borik   Borik Beletsky
Cevad   Dave Cook
Culus   Jason Gunthorpe
Elf Vadik V. Vygonets
igorIgor Grobman
james   James Troup
jim Jim Lynch
JoeyMartin Schulze
netgod  Johnie Ingram
nickNicholas Lichtmaier
vincent Vincent Renardias


Devoted Debian Users:

Adrenolin   Principal of #debian channel on undernet.
KyshPersonality: The Lovable, Lickable, Lapdragon (female).
rcw Robert C. Woodcock, Debian-Developer-in-training.
WildOne-Chad D. Zimmerman, Head of Debian Book Project

Debian Daemons:

dpkgFile area has full Debian mirror.
User68-70   Links #debian on undernet, linpeople, and efnet.


--- on channel #natter (irc.linpeople.org)

People of Note:

CromCyclades tech support (http://www.clyclades.com).
Flood   Author of ProFTPD daemon (http://www.proftpd.org).
FishheadPersonality: archnemesis of netgod.
Hyrlik  Head of Linpeople Quake Clan (http://lpc.linpeople.org).
liloIRC network founder.  Gender indeterminate (female?).
Whizard Computer Programmer, United States Geological Survey.
YodaAll-around funny guy (http://yoda.oaktree.net).

Plus 90 other regulars who answer questions and help with linux
setup.  For list and homepages see http://www.linpeople.org).


--- The major linpeople (Linux Internet Support Cooperative) servers

varley.linpeople.org  -  T1, Pennsylvania (irc.linpeople.org)
anne.mccaffrey.linpeople.org  -  T1, Michigan
james.hogan.linpeople.org -  (port 8001, also true.blackdown.org)
robert.forward.linpeople.org  -  T1, Florida
george.lucas.linpeople.org-  Delaware
robert.jordan.linpeople.org   -  Perth, Austrailia
tolkien.linpeople.org -  T1, Minnesota (port 8001)



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Re: libc5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb

1997-07-20 Thread Johnie Ingram

Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc5.postinst to remove the set -e at the
top, then run dpkg --configure libc5.

Paul == Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul I'm having trouble upgrading to -5 from -3 ... here is my
Paul output: # ldconfig # dpkg -i libc5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb (Reading
Paul database ... 13971 files and directories currently installed)
Paul Preparing to replace libc5 5.4.33-3 (using
Paul lib5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb) Unpacking replacement libc5 ...  Setting
Paul up libc5 (5.4.33-5) ...  dpkg: error processing libc5
Paul (--install) subprocess post-installation script returned error
Paul exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: libc5 #
Paul 
Paul can anyone help?  I'm trying to install the hamm version..
 
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Re: Apache problems with 1.2-1.3 upgrade

1997-06-18 Thread Johnie Ingram

Ted == Ted Okada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ted 1. You indicated the home directory to be /home/www-data Apache
Ted recommends /var/www ... I let Apache use /home/www-data ... In
Ted fact, I understand what happened.  I was using /var/www and
Ted instead of user www- data, I used user www with /var/www as the
Ted home directory.  What would you recommend given new packages?
Ted Should I symlink /var/www with /home/www-data?  In general, with
Ted regards to where Debian is going and for future upgrades of
Ted Apache, what should the strategy be for location to place web
Ted data?

The historic place for the Debian Apache document root is
/home/www-data/webspace.  The other webserver packages used different
conventions, and for 1.3 it was decided to standardize on /var/www as
a default.  But this is only a default -- the administrator can always
change this afterwards.  With apache in particular, only
/etc/apache/httpd.conf is hardwired; the locations of everything else
can be configured from commands in that.

The preinst script should have added /var/www instead of
/home/www-data -- its a Bug symptomatic of its antiquity.  :-)

Personally I still have my site in /home/www-data/webspace -- it makes
it easier to backup, and the parent /home/www-data stuff can be used
for other webserver-related stuff, like other virtual domains.

Ted 2. During the configuration of apache and apache-modules, there
Ted were configuration scripts... Do you know where these scripts are
Ted so I can run these scripts later to both configure apache as well
Ted as configure which apache modules to load?  I'm sorry for this
Ted newbie question...

All config scripts are stored in /var/lib/dpkg/info, named
apache.preinst, apache.postinst, etc.  The apache.postinst is what you
are thinking of, but really all it does is call the apacheconfig
program (which you can run at any time).

If you already have the user and group www-data set up, really you
don't need the scripts at all.  Just copy over the three config files
in /etc/apache -- httpd.conf, access.conf, and srm.conf -- and start
apache with /etc/init.d/apache start.
 
 
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Re: httpd question

1997-03-21 Thread Johnie Ingram

Daniel == Daniel Doro Ferrante [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Daniel I have just upgraded from httpd to apache and I have
Daniel encountered some problems with apache config files (as a
Daniel matter of fact, apache itself found problems with the config
Daniel files...). So I would like to know if there is anything about
Daniel it that I should know that I don't.

The key thing is that the apache in 1.2 won't install correctly -- you
should use apache-1.1.3-5 or later from bo.  But if that's the version
you're using now, it sounds like there's something I need to fix.

What didn't it like about its config files?


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Re: Scanner software recomendations ?

1997-01-14 Thread Johnie Ingram
Stan == Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Stan I am looking for a software package to use to interface am HP
Stan scanner to my Debian system.

If its a HP scanner, you can use hpscanpbm, a command-line based
acquisition tool in the graphics directory.  You just need a
Linux-supported SCSI card and a kernel with support for scsi-generic
devices (I'm not sure if the Debian kernels support this).


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Re: Apache -- Regarding File Privileges

1997-01-10 Thread Johnie Ingram
Paul == Paul Serice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul To make a long story short, it turns out /usr/lib/httpd was
Paul owned by root and had privileges of rwxr_x___ .  So, I changed
Paul this directory's privileges to rwxr_xr_x which let apache read
Paul further down the directory tree, and all is now o.k.
Paul 
Paul I worry though about my novice hand changing the privileges on
Paul something so sensitive as the cgi directories.  I was wondering
Paul if someone could post the proper file privileges for and who is
Paul supposed to own the files from /usr/lib/httpd on down.

What you did was exactly correct -- the improper permissions are a bug
in that release of apache.  You may want to upgrade to the latest
package, apache_1.1.1-8, which fixes some other things as well.  It's
available in bo/ on the FTP site.

I'm the new maintainer of this package, so please let me know if you
have any more problems.


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Re: news config -- suggested tools?

1996-12-10 Thread Johnie Ingram
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hamish Which software would be best to handle this? From the name,
Hamish suck sounds like just the thing to get the news in, but I'd
Hamish guess it won't be interested in batching for UUCP, so I'd need
Hamish cnews or inn. I'm reasonably familar with configuring Taylor
Hamish UUCP.

Actually, suck does indeed batch for UUCP, after checking the article
ids and stripping duplicates.  Then you can use rnews to send the
files to your INN.  You can rnews the suck batch files: no UUCP
configuration is necessary unless you need to automatically transfer
the batches between hosts.
 
 
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Re: Posting rejected - please read and agree to mailing list rules. (fwd)

1996-11-27 Thread Johnie Ingram
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hamish Ooops. I just bounced this post, hoping elm would let me edit
Hamish it. :-( I tried Linux 2.1.13, and found that
Hamish start-stop-daemons, which Debian uses extensively during
Hamish bootup, did not work, and possibly some other scripts. Hence
Hamish 2.1.13 was useless and I am back to 2.1.10. Has anyone else
Hamish experienced this?

Yes, the exact same thing happened to me, apparently because 2.1.13
does not understand the #!/usr/sbin/perl -- line in the script.  No
script which gives an argument to its processor works with that
kernel.

Miraculously, almost everything will work normally if you change the
line to #!/usr/bin/perl.  Seems like start-stop-daemon is the only
key script that gives arguments to its processor.

This is the first 2.1 kernel I've tried, so I don't know if its a bug
or a feature.  (Its startup messages mentioned being POSIX-certified,
mabye things like #!/usr/bin/perl -w and #!/usr/bin/make -f are
unsupported now?)

 
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Re: Posting rejected - please read and agree to mailing list rules. (fwd)

1996-11-27 Thread Johnie Ingram
Andrew == Andrew Martin Adrian Cater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Johnie  Yes, the exact same thing happened to me, apparently because
Johnie 2.1.13 does not understand the #!/usr/sbin/perl -- line in the
Johnie script.  No script which gives an argument to its processor works

Andrew My guess is that Perl has moved - the canonical location has
Andrew possibly moved from /sbin (very restricted in terms of who can
Andrew use it) to /bin (any user) to avoid all the suid problems ??
Andrew Just my thought.

Sorry -- I mistyped that.  The line really says #!/usr/bin/perl --.

My theory is the problem lies in changes to fs/binfmt_script.c.  Every
script with extra stuff after the interpreter filename now fails with
something like bash: no such file (I don't remember exactly -- I'm
back to 2.0.25 now).
 
I was going to test the theory by replacing binfmt_script.c with the
2.0.25 version, but make-kpkg didn't work under 2.1.13, and by the
time I re-liloed and booted the stable kernel, the heat of the moment
had passed   :-)

 
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Re: Support for Page Scanners (ie. HP ScanJets)

1996-11-15 Thread Johnie Ingram
GREENE == GREENE KENNETH ADAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

GREENE This is important, so any help is greatly appreciated (I am
GREENE to make a recommendation as to a complete system to handle Web
GREENE pages, E-Mail and networks for a small university, and If I
GREENE can get their ScanJet to work, I probably could sell them,

The HP ScanJet is supported -- just install hpscanpbm, in the graphics
section.  The ScanJet needs to be connected to a SCSI card supported
by Linux.  I've had good results with the 4p using Adaptec 2940 and
Buslogic 946C adapters.

Be sure to get the latest version (0.3a-3) -- it includes the manpage
I just wrote.  If you have any problem, please let me know.

GREENE They use Adobe Photoshop, and I think the GIMP could fill that
GREENE need).  Anyways, I need to know, I haven't actually dug into
GREENE Linux yet.

We create web pages for over 100 member libraries here using Linux,
using imagemagick, xv, the gimp, perl, emacs, Apache, and of course
Netscape Gold 3.01b1 for XWindows95.  (Well, fvwm95 2.0.42a-6 anyway.)
The system runs with nine 1280x1024 virtual screens, and is therefore
far more productive, I think, than a similar Windows 95 system would
be.

But I still have to boot the Win 95 partition occasionally to do OCR
(sigh)

http://tln.lib.mi.us/

 
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Re: mailing list as digest?

1996-05-28 Thread Johnie Ingram
On Mon, 20 May 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Matthew To the point: unfortunately, the volume is very large. I'd much
   Matthew prefer to get this mailing list in digest format. Does anyone know
   Matthew if this is possible with the list server that debian.org uses? No
   Matthew mention is made on their web pages, the place I signed up from.
 
 You can use either procmail or mailagent to filter your incoming mail
 into different folders. Very, very convenient. Both packages are in the mail
 directory of the Debian distribution.

I use procmail to forward my linux-kernel mail to a listproc server,
which digestifies it and sends it back to me and some advanced users
here.  The digests come about once per day, and average 150K.  A
related list, debian-user, averages 75K per day.

It's not official or anything, but if you want you can subscribe to
one or both of these by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

subscribe linux-kernel Your Name
subscribe debian-user Your Name
thank you

The politeness tells it to ignore the .signature.  :-)

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