Re: Broken Konqueror?
On Thursday 06 January 2005 21:21, Carl Fink wrote: On a newly-updated Sarge system I'm now finding a totally broken Konqueror. No - you're finding a Konqueror built for old versions of the libraries you just upgraded. Log out and back in and you should be OK. -- Kirk Strauser pgpXfsoEbwycB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] crossing nebraska
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 03:30, Nate Duehr wrote: Let's put it this way -- it looks nice, but the view doesn't change much for many many miles after Lincoln. Come on out to Denver sometime, and you'll see. ;-) I plan to next summer. Nothing but fresh air, open skies, and three screaming kids and a fed-up wife in a minivan for hours and hours. Ahh, vacation... There's supposedly been some Pioneer exhibit and bridge built somewhere out there on I-80 now -- at least that would break the monotony. Tourist trap though, I'm sure. Can't be any worse than the Wall Drug and Corn Palace signs on I-90 for about 400 miles in either direction. :-) I-76 from the Nebraska border on into Denver isn't exactly anyone's idea of excitement either... anyone that I know of anyway. I wondered about it. Is it at least a little rugger? I don't know much about Colorado's topography (I was 4 years old when I last approached Denver from the east). I also used to do all this long before MP3's... but then again, I'm a fan of tuning around the dial on AM broadcast to see what's out there on the air when travelling through new places in the States. I still do that. I always think it's neat to find out that I'm picking up a station from Fargo, or Rapid City, or Chicago. -- Kirk Strauser pgpVqudDhnQct.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] crossing nebraska
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 20:26, dorn hetzel wrote: No, it's quite nice actually. My wife is from Omaha and we were out in NE over thanksgiving (drove out from Atlanta). I live about 100 miles northwest of Omaha. We're still far enough east to be in the Missouri River valley terrain instead of the open plains. My favorite parts of Nebraska are way out west around Alliance. I can't explain why, it's just got a real good feel to it. We spent a whole week or so of family vacation one year just driving around western Nebraska and southwest South Dakota (Rushmore and all that). We drove up to South Dakota and across to Rapid City, Mt. Rushmore, and the Badlands over the summer. That was some of the most beautiful country I've ever seen. -- Kirk Strauser pgp1N1tiZO0BB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Big Open Roads (Was: Linux Functionality?)
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 03:23, Paul Johnson wrote: I-10 has some pretty cool stuff along it, though. But I guess you have to be in the right frame of mind to really go tooling around the southwest. I lived in Springfield, Missouri when I enlisted in the Navy. I did my basic training in Chicago, then got transferred to a school in San Diego. I drove from Chicago to Springfield, spent a couple of weeks, then spent three days driving from Springfield to Dallas to College Station, TX to visit a friend, then San Diego. I personally thought the drive was breathtaking (although admittedly pretty boring in parts), since the landscape was completely and utterely different than what I'd grown up with at the edge of the Ozark Mountains. -- Kirk Strauser pgpTOTeNItinD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] crossing nebraska
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 06:58 pm, Vineet Kumar wrote: Finally, a topic I'm qualified to speak on (living in northeast Nebraska and all that). I've never been on I-80 west of Lincoln - is it really *that* bad? As a fairly new resident of the state I'm not too well acquainted with the south and west portions. SWA #2062 crosses over its length in about an hour on the way from MDW to OAK =) Smartass. :-) -- Kirk Strauser pgpsCqpRk26wf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 'ls' caching?
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 06:37, michael wrote: Is there some caching going on for 'ls'? Not in the sense you mean, no. See the example below where I deleted files in another window and then re-exported from CVS, but the listing doesn't appear unless I cd out and back in again. Are you sure that you hadn't deleted and then recreated the vcoord directory (and not just its contents)? If you cded into vcoord and then rm-rf'ed it from another window, then you'd get the behavior you described. Basically, your pwd would effectively be a non-existent directory with no contents. When you cd out of it and then back in, you're really changing from a non-existent directory to one that exists. This is easy enough to recreate: $ cd /tmp $ mkdir foo $ cd foo $ touch bar $ touch baz $ touch qux In another shell: $ rm -rf /tmp/foo Back in the original shell: $ ls -la total 0 $ pwd /tmp/foo $ cd $PWD cd: no such file or directory: /tmp/foo -- Kirk Strauser pgpUVIZEZIFbt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: best IRC client for Debian
On Monday 20 December 2004 07:10 pm, James Vahn wrote: Yes, it's a problem with AOL. The date was 05/09/1953 and variations of it. The page kept returning an error with the date highlighted. Lie. No, seriously: lie. My daughter is an AOL'er. She was camped out there and I couldn't reach her by phone (dialup), so I drove over and there she was, in her UNDERWEAR sitting in front of the computer. Is she cute? DARN! Too many years on IRC/Slashdot/Fark have made that a reflex. Sorry 'bout that. -- Kirk Strauser pgpmRiKZjjWaD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xv
On Saturday 18 December 2004 08:52 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: Funny, I seem to recall the GPL saying the reverse: When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for this service if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs; and that you know you can do these things. I have never seen one single piece of shareware that allows you to use pieces of it in new free programs. None. Not one. I'll stick by me original statement that shareware is not Free software in general, and explicitly not so in the case of xv. No doubt you know more than RMS does. OK, Marc, I've got to know: what's with your crusade to be pissed at me? The OP wondered why xv wasn't in Debian, and I told him. I don't recall ever making a single value judgement about xv; I just explained that it wasn't Free. If the Debian criteria was author must live in a green apartment complex, and xv's author lives in a blue condo, and I pointed that out, then I wouldn't be commenting on whether green apartments are better than blue condos. Why do you want to take it personally? You seem to have a problem with paying for what you get. That is irrational, unsupported, and completely orthogonal to any of the topics being discussed. As such, I will not reply further to such pointless (and inaccurate) musings. Please excuse me while I return to installing (purchased) Win2K on a (purchased) copy of VMWare. -- Kirk Strauser pgpdBajAvMw2L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xv
On Friday 17 December 2004 10:22 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: The fact that it's shareware has nothing to do with it. Yes, it does. That means (by definition) that it's under a non-Free license, and therefore not eligible for distribution in Debian/main, and that most Debian users and maintainers find it less attractive than working with and on other, Freer counterparts. Or are you one of the less-than-clued who thinks you can't pay for software? Are you a jackass who paints his car in polka-dots? Seriously, where'd that ad-hominem non-sequitur come from? -- Kirk Strauser pgpM3PMurb1BV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xv
On Friday 17 December 2004 11:15, Ivan Glushkov wrote: I have a simple question: Why xv is not any more supported by Debian? I have a simple answer: Because it's shareware. See http://www.trilon.com/xv/pricing.html for details. Basically, there are any number of functionality identical programs (ie 'display' from ImageMagick) that are Free and available through the normal Debian channels. -- Kirk Strauser pgpmyBgixvGxA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X.org ----- Xfree [SOLVED]
On Monday 13 December 2004 05:35 pm, Thomas Dickey wrote: actually I only saw that spew as I was looking for bug reports. My regards to the slashdotters. I hate to ask, but: what spew? -- Kirk Strauser pgpi1u2QudRV0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X.org ----- Xfree
On Thursday 09 December 2004 05:16, Jon Dowland wrote: I see a lot of discussion about packaging and which distro it may end up in but nothing about why you might want to use X.org instead of XFree :) In a nutshell, X.org was created because the XFree86 people wouldn't accept patches from outside developers in a timely way (if at all). A group of people who were actively patching XFree86 to add new functionality, refactor its code, and improve its performance got tired of having their work tossed aside, so they forked it into their own new server, X.org. Essentially all active XFree86 developers switched to working on X.org since they finally had someone willing to evaluate their work and accept it if it was good. There's almost noone left to work on XFree86, except David Dawes and a few hangers-on. Finally, XFree86 changed the terms of their license for XF86 4.4. Although people disagree on whether the changes still allow it to be Free Software, it's almost universally agreed that the new license is not GPL-compatible. Since XFree86 announced plans to move libraries to the new license in future versions, that means that you couldn't link GPL applications to XFree86's xlibs. Ouch. So, if you're completely happy with the current state of XFree86 to the point that you're willing to never upgrade, then stick with it. However, if you're a developer of GPL software, or you want to buy a new graphics card that's only supported by X.org (since manufacturers are loudly and publically switching to support that distribution), or you want to use a system that's still being actively developed, then you're pretty much stuck upgrading to X.org. -- Kirk Strauser pgpPY1DOpgjRL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X.org ----- Xfree
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 12:51, Roelof Wobben wrote: Is X.org better than Xfree ?? Yes. Does someone has X.org getting on work with debian Sarge ?? If you're asking if X.org will be packaged for Sarge: yes, although it might take a while. -- Kirk Strauser pgphuUTpWAr9X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: down with memory protection!
On Thursday 02 December 2004 09:30, Sam Watkins wrote: Current mainstream OSes like Linux implement memory protection primarily to prevent buggy or malicious processes trampling on each-others memory and memory-mapped devices, or spying on other processes. No, they don't. Memory protection is generally a free side effect of virtual memory (not to be confused with swap). That is, virtual memory is the goal, and memory protection is a good thing that comes along with it. All processes could run on a single address space, there would be no need for context-switching, pipes could be implemented as shared buffers, and processes could send messages to eachother without needing to copy memory. Congratulations - you've just invented shared memory (see shm*(2) for details on the Linux syscalls that implement it). I think people don't normally use more than 4GB of VM on 32-bit computers, at least they won't now that 64 bit CPUs are taking off, Not even close to correct, actually. Programs could call yield every now and again, Get a pre-OS X Macintosh and see how well you like it. Seriously, it's called cooperative multitasking, and it's generally not well-regarded. and the compiler and programmer could be required to prove that the code would not loop forever without calling yield. This is provably impossible. Reference the halting problem. Files could be accessed by partially mapping them to memory. See man 2 mmap for details. Anyway, if anyone would comment on any of this vapourware, I'd like to hear it - off the list if you think it's too off topic. Sorry, but your ideas have pretty much already been implemented (and in some cases discarded). :-/ -- Kirk Strauser pgpUdv3WcPAp2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: down with memory protection!
On Thursday 02 December 2004 17:26, Ron Johnson wrote: I'm pretty sure that they are distinct features, i.e., it's possible to do mem prot w/o VM , and vice versa. I should've said virtual memory as implemented by modern Unix systems. Sam, to clarify: since the VM abstracts physical addresses away from programs anyway, memory protection is largely a result of the fact that programs simply cannot address memory outside of their abstraction. You can't write to another program's memory if you think that the whole address range belongs to you in the first place. In effect, each program thinks that it owns the entire machine. You think this guy is a CompSci student with just enough knowledge to be dangerous? I kind of got that idea. :) -- Kirk Strauser pgpasZwtPPtMQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laser Printer
On Wednesday 24 November 2004 04:43, Peter Robinson wrote: I am looking to buy a laser printer in the range of 200-250 Euro and would like to get one that will work under Debian without all too much fuss. From the specs and the price, Lexmark E232t is looking pretty nice. Has anyone set this up under a testing Debian system? Can this (or another printer) be recommended? I have an HP Laserjet 1200 and absolutely love it. It's fast, barely sips toner, can easily have its memory upgrade, and speaks Postscript natively. -- Kirk Strauser pgpw3aBZLzzv4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to back up from sid to testing?
On Friday 19 November 2004 09:08, Christian Convey wrote: Hey guys, I recently took a stab at upgrading my testing installation to sid. I've had some instability when logging out from KDE, so I've decided I'd rather live with testing. Did you upgrade your entire system or just select packages? I ask because I've seen no KDE instability on my sid system in many months. What's the most reasonable way to *downgrade* a system from sid to testing? Do I need to suck it up and do a reinstall? That's pretty much it. :-/ -- Kirk Strauser pgpJhp7tq6Uuk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [CONFUSED NEWBIE] Cron
On Friday 05 November 2004 12:49, Joseph wrote: I added a new line to crontab: 0 0 * * * root /usr/lib/cgi-bin/send_hit_count.cgi 1. send_hit_count.cgi apparently is not being executed. 9 times out of 10 when this happens to me, it's because I forgot to add an extra blank line to the end of the crontab. Basically, cron really wants the last character of the file to be a newline. -- Kirk Strauser pgpx308nytqr2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Memory Management in Linux
On Friday 05 November 2004 12:37, Silvan Villiger wrote: My goal is to write a script to monitor the memory-usage of a program and to detect memory-leaks using the ps-command. How would you detect memory leaks with it? You wouldn't. A memory leak, in a nutshell, is a call to malloc() without a corresponding call to free() sometime afterward. It'd be approximately impossible to deterministically tell from the outside whether a program is truly leaking memory, or whether it was simply delaying the free() call until some later time. If have access to the program's internals, you can probably get a much more accurate answer. -- Kirk Strauser pgp8OLHegSvCM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: $50,000 for the Linux kernel!
On Wednesday 13 October 2004 17:03, Steven Jones wrote: says a lot for the dodgy canopy group does it not? An alternative viewpoint: I'm glad that somebody seriously asked, and that the answer was a resounding no!. Granted, $50,000 isn't a lot of money as far as these things go, but the answer was it's not for sale instead of the offer is too low. Personally, I'm *glad* that it all happened just the way it did. -- Kirk Strauser pgpaBSgbqXykm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Secure Password Storage
On Thursday 14 October 2004 11:28, Icebiker wrote: This isn't a linux or open license solution, but FWIW I've been very happy using password vault software on my Palm to hold ~100 passwords and magic numbers. Same here. I've been using SplashID as a vault and am completely happy with it. What would make me *happier* is to see a conduit that synced SplashID with the KDE wallet manager. The happiest solution for me would be that conduit syncing with a Free password manager that works as well as SplashID. -- Kirk Strauser pgpyir4rgVxYB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Sound recording in ALSA
I'm using Sid with Debian's 2.6.8-1-686 kernel package on a Dell PC with an Intel 8x0 sound device and ALSA. My ultimate goal is to get liveice to read from the line in on my sound card, but I'm trying to take baby steps to get there. Right now I'm attempting to record by: 1) Going into KMix and selecting Line as the capture device (verified with amixer). 2) Using something like arecord -t wav -d 10 /tmp/foo.wav to attempt to record the sound that's being played through my speakers to a file. However, that file seems to be silent on playback, regardless of what permutations of the steps above I've messed with. Any pointers on how I can get started with this? -- Kirk Strauser pgpe5wgwI6czz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: parallel port using lots of CPU
On Monday 20 September 2004 17:07, Marc Wilson wrote: Uh, that's a CUPS back-end, not the hardware directly. The port itself cannot consume CPU. Well, it can, but not in the sense that you mean. In what way do *you* think it can consume CPU? -- Kirk Strauser pgpSLMRaidtRT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: parallel port using lots of CPU
On Monday 20 September 2004 07:29 pm, Ross Boylan wrote: I'm not sure who *you* means, but my original thought was that the device driver associated with the port might be using a lot of CPU cycles. I think that's exactly what's happening, and I was curious as to why others thought that it wouldn't be. So the thing reported as parallel:/dev/lpt0 (or whatever it was) is actually part of CUPS? Yep. It it's most likely the kernel accumulating all of that CPU time, but since CUPS is the application making the IO request, it gets the blame. Is your parallel port running in DMA mode? Mine is, based on dmesg: parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP,DMA] If it's in a non-DMA mode, then I wouldn't be surprised to see the poor performance you're describing. Also, I'd strongly consider migrating to using the USB interface if at all possible - it really is much faster (and typically better-behaved) than parallel. -- Kirk Strauser pgphSM226WFcQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: parallel port using lots of CPU
On Monday 20 September 2004 10:09 pm, Ross Boylan wrote: Mine says parport0: Printer, Lexmark International Lexmark Optra E310 lp0: using parport0 (polling). parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP] I don't really know what that means, but it apparently has no interrupts and there's no reference to DMA, just PCSPP. Perhaps I can tweak my BIOS. Unfortunately, my system is interrupt starved. Yep, that's what it means. What do you have contending for interrupts? The (polling) certainly suggests that I am, umh, polling. Which would explain the CPU useage. Would this also slow down how fast it takes to ship stuff out? Printing graphics is painfully slow, e.g., 20 minutes per page (with 300dpi!). Absolutely! I have an HP LaserJet 1200 hanging off a FreeBSD server. When I was using CUPS to print large PostScript images, it could easily spend 20 minutes pushing the data across. DMA mode wasn't significantly faster - maybe 20% or so - but the CPU was mostly idle the whole time instead of pegged at 100%. Switching to USB cut those times in half, but that would be even more pronounced if my printer didn't have a dog-slow engine. I was under the impression that USB was a bit experimental on Linux, but I did form that impression awhile ago. I hope not! That'd make my keyboard, mouse, Palm, and keychain drive stop working. ;-) Partly as a result of that, and on a more mundane level, I don't have a USB cable, and I remember them costing more than a completely trivial amount. I'm sure you can get one for $5 or less. -- Kirk Strauser pgplaRfgnLyNZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 13:58, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: But SMTP is for mail, NNTP is for threaded discussions. I had once subscribed to several lists, and seeing how awfully inefficient it is for such things, I had summarily stopped all my list subscriptions, and I will not subscribe to a single list anymore, no matter what, as a principle. That's the dumbest thing I've read today. SMTP and NNTP are transport protocols - how your client handles the messages is entirely up to your client. I used Gnus for a long time and it makes essentially no distinction between mail and news. I had several topics with Usenet and IMAP folders intermixed in alphabetical order and there was no visible difference in their appearance. If you've used bad mail clients, then it's time to find better ones. -- Kirk Strauser pgpDt8yArnjgf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 07:01 pm, Travis Crump wrote: I don't mean the latency of posting-post appearing, I mean the latency of clicking a subject and seeing the body. For e-mail the latency is roughly equal to a hard drive access since fetchmail fetches my mail in the background. So install Leafnode and use that as your local server. For usenet, it is equal to a network access as the body needs to be fetched from a usenet server. I suppose that you could pre-fetch all the bodies, but that would negate one of the 'benefits' that the post I was reponding to mentioned. I take it you're using POP3 to read your email. IMAP works basically the same way as NNTP, so there's no clear win either way. -- Kirk Strauser pgptuqNFFNzNi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which wiki?
On Monday 30 August 2004 08:15 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: Raquel Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use, and like, TWiki. It's available as a Debian package. Sort of oriented towards the business environment, no? Not particularly. I host http://subwiki.honeypot.net/ with TWiki and absolutely love it, since I'm able to partition off parts of it into topics of specific interest. I routinely make a new web for friends to use as a part of their own personal projects. That way, their topics don't contaminate the rest of the site; in effect, they have their own unique namespace to work in. I've been using TWiki for years and I love it. -- Kirk Strauser pgpNAPGNitwkL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: automating sa-learn via cyrus mailbox?
On Saturday 28 August 2004 10:31 pm, Will Trillich wrote:
we're running cyrus21 and exim4 for email services, and would
like to automate the sa-learn feature system-wide.
Here's what I'm using for that purpose:
###
#!/usr/bin/env python
# Copyright 2004 by Kirk Strauser. BSD licence, etc.
import os
import re
mailboxes = {
'mailserver.example.com':
{ 'ham' : 'INBOX.spam.train.ham',
'spam': 'INBOX.spam.train.spam', }
}
learncmd = 'fetchmail %(options)s --silent --folder %(folder)s --mda sa-learn
--%(type)s %(server)s'
printed = None
resre = re.compile(r'Learned from (\d+) message\(s\) \((\d+) message\(s\)
examined\)\.')
totalexamined = totallearned = 0
for server in mailboxes.keys():
for mailtype in mailboxes[server].keys():
# print 'Fetching', mailtype
execcmd = learncmd % {
'folder' : mailboxes[server][mailtype],
'server' : server,
'type' : mailtype,
'options': '',
}
# print execcmd
cmdoutput = os.popen(execcmd).readlines()
if not cmdoutput:
continue
learned = examined = 0
for line in cmdoutput:
result = resre.match(line)
if result:
learned += int(result.group(1))
examined += int(result.group(2))
if not printed:
print 'sa-learn results:'
print
printed = 1
print ' Type:', mailtype
print 'Examined:', examined
print 'Learned :', learned
###
I preconfigured fetchmail with my username and password like so:
###
poll mailserver.example.com with proto IMAP
user 'myusername' there with password 'password' is 'myusername' here options
fetchall batchlimit 100
###
Then, I run the script as a cron job every 15 minutes. It downloads mail
from 'INBOX.spam.train.ham' and uses that for ham training, then repeats
the process for .spam. This is a single-user setup, but you should be
able to extend it pretty easily.
I read my mail with Kmail and drag false positives and negatives into the
appropriate folders as I go.
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Re: OT: Gmail invitations
On Friday 27 August 2004 05:54, John Summerfield wrote: This is not the place for advertising. We might just as well have people here flogging Windows software, sex aids and intoxicants. I'd have to disagree. Gmail invitations are kind of coveted right now, and I think Jeff was trying to do a nice thing my passing them out to his friends and those who have helped him. -- Kirk Strauser pgpJBn1kkUseN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Gmail invitations
On Friday 27 August 2004 09:49, John Summerfield wrote: Here is the official guide: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ When using the Debian mailing lists, please follow these rules: Do not send spam; see the advertising policy below. Yes, yes, I've read that, but what part of one Debian user sending a free list of coveted invitations to a popular service to other Debian users constitutes Spam in your opinion? -- Kirk Strauser pgpYireMFfbs6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ask for fwbuilder, get AOHellServer?!? [stable/woody]
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 13:26, s. keeling wrote: What the heck is this? On the basis of recomendations from this list, I decided I ought to look into fwbuilder. aptitude install fwbuilder What do I get? An httpd running on my machine. Why do I need that? Why do I need aolserver? Why is aolserver the obvious choice for an httpd server? I'm running unstable. From here: $ sudo aptitude install fwbuilder Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following NEW packages will be automatically installed: fwbuilder-common fwbuilder-linux libfwbuilder6 The following NEW packages will be installed: fwbuilder fwbuilder-common fwbuilder-linux libfwbuilder6 0 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/1779kB of archives. After unpacking 6128kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n Abort. I don't have Apache installed, and fwbuilder doesn't require it. -- Kirk Strauser pgpTBXR4D0g29.pgp Description: signature
Re: Is the new installer creating too small a / partition?
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 02:39 pm, stan wrote: Am I missisng something here? Yes: telling us the size of your / directory so that we can decide whether it was too small. :) -- Kirk Strauser pgpj0lcxaNlIn.pgp Description: signature
Re: Error: Please disable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent.
On Monday 16 August 2004 12:06, Lance W. Haverkamp wrote: The use of GnuPG Agent is enabled in GnuPG's configuration file (/home/lance/.gnupg/gpg.conf). However, the agent doesn't seem to run. This could result in problems with signing/decryption. Please disable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent. In short, /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession from the kdm package is a copy of the official version from KDE, and not the Debian-customized version that you're used to using. You can manually revert it to the correct contents: #! /bin/sh # Xsession - run as user # invoke global X session script . /etc/X11/Xsession and log back in to get the environment you're used to having. -- Kirk Strauser pgprpvobZeF9k.pgp Description: signature
Re: VMware and QEMU (was Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable)
On Thursday 12 August 2004 02:14, Johann Spies wrote: Gregory, (Kirk, actually) Could you get the network connection working from Windows XP? I have also installed XP on qemu but I had no success in getting the network working. Yep. It wasn't mentioned in the docs, but if you want to use TUN/TAP networking, then you have to activate NAT on the host computer. Steps I took (as root) to make it work: 1) Added a line in /etc/sudoers (using visudo) to allow me to execute /etc/qemu-ifup as root: kirkALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /etc/qemu-ifup 2) Loaded the tun module: modprobe tun 3) Gave myself access to /dev/net/tun: chown kirk /dev/net/tun 4) Turned on forwarding: echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 5) As me, ran qemu. Note that I have perms for /dev/hdb8; it's a partition I configured just for this experiment: qemu -hda /dev/hdb8 -localtime -m 192 6) Turned on NAT: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE You might be able to swap steps 5 and 6, but I'm not sure whether it's necessary to have tun0 configged before starting NAT. I just got this working late yesterday afternoon and haven't had time to refine it yet. :) -- Kirk Strauser pgpLsm93fVfdr.pgp Description: signature
Re: Obsessed with a clean system
On Thursday 12 August 2004 12:36, Lourens Steenkamp wrote: I have also aquired a mirror (woody, sarge, sid, experimental, security stuff, no src). Could you tell me how you keep your mirror in sync? I cheated on my mirror: I installed a Squid server and pointed apt at that proxy. That way, there's no penalty of downloading more packages than needed, but additional hosts benefit from the packages already downloaded by earlier hosts. -- Kirk Strauser pgpbD9MiDfzlU.pgp Description: signature
Re: So you think you are (or wanna be) a hacker
On Thursday 12 August 2004 15:38, Jason Rennie wrote:
Something a bit safer...
char *home = getenv(HOME);
if (home == NULL || cfgfile == NULL) hittheuseronthehead();
int sz = strlen(home) + strlen(cfgfile) + 2;
char *configfile = malloc(sizeof(char)*sz);
sprintf(configfile,%s/%s,home,cfgfile);
I'm sure someone can do better (and be more creative :)
I'm partial to:
if not os.getenv('HOME') or not cfgfile:
raise ForgotToSetConfigfileError
return '%s/%s' % (os.getenv('HOME'), cfgfile)
but that's just me. ;-)
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Re: Obsessed with a clean system
On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean system? No. Drives are cheap, but my time is not. I have a ridiculous number of packages installed (because Debian makes it cheap to experiment and I don't get too worked up about removing the ones I don't use often), and the total size of my system (excluding /home, but including /usr/src and all of the kernel tarballs extracted in there) is 5.2 GB. That's roughly 5% of the size of a hard drive that I can buy for $60 at the local office supply store, or $3 worth of space. Even if I could cut that in half, I'd be saving about $1.50 worth of space at a cost of hundreds of dollars of time. I used to be obsessed with clean drives before I upgraded the 120MB Connor in my Amiga. Since then, I haven't spent much time worrying about it. -- Kirk Strauser pgpVZioTZJlpA.pgp Description: signature
Re: Obsessed with a clean system
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 10:33, William Ballard wrote: But keeping it clean primarily saves time. Nobody cares about disk space. Why download upgrades to all those packages you never need? Why fight broken upgrades on things? The OP did - he was deleting the contents of packages but leaving them in the package database. If there were unused packages that were causing problems, then, sure, I'd delete them. That hasn't been a problem for me, though. -- Kirk Strauser pgpkA9AI3w1ca.pgp Description: signature
VMware and QEMU (was Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable)
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 07:31 pm, Gregory Pierce wrote: you can emulate the whole Windows XP (or any other brand of WIndows) environment with a proprietary package called VMware. My new favorite toy is QEMU, which is a system emulator built around a CPU emulator ala Bochs, except that it's actually fast enough to be usable. How good is it? I installed Windows XP in a QEMU virtual machine today at work, and tomorrow I plan to install SP2 on it. For me, it's good enough that I expect to be wiping the drives on the little computer that I currently keep around solely to run Quickbooks Pro. -- Kirk Strauser pgpyjKtjRTtr2.pgp Description: signature
Re: See what a weak password will get ya?
On Thursday 22 July 2004 17:42, Paul Stolp wrote: See what a weak password will get ya? No. I do, however, see what allowing password logins to an SSH server will get you. I could set my password to foo and you still aren't getting in without my RSA key (or Kerberos ticket). Oh, and disable root logins while you're at it if you haven't already. -- Kirk Strauser pgpO1AqXYGwe2.pgp Description: signature
Re: Do kernel-image-2.4.26-2-686-smp at least support the same drivers as kernel-image-2.4.26-2-686?
On Thursday 22 July 2004 12:59 am, Jacob Friis Larsen wrote: Do kernel-image-2.4.26-2-686-smp at least support the same drivers as kernel-image-2.4.26-2-686? It most likely will. The easiest way to make sure that the ones you need are present is to install it and look in /lib/modules to see if they're there. -- Kirk Strauser pgptYY7DAWfqT.pgp Description: signature
Re: Xeon HT or not HT
On Thursday 22 July 2004 12:18, Greg Folkert wrote: I think the answer is clear. I'd have to disagree. We're running some Xeon servers with and without HT, and while there is *some* performance increase in some circumstances, it doesn't seem to be anything to write home about. I won't go so far as to recommend disabling HT (although plenty of people suggest exactly that), but don't expect big gains from having it. -- Kirk Strauser pgparOsOFZ7RX.pgp Description: signature
Re: How I set up my Microsoft Trackball Optical (followup)
On Tuesday 20 July 2004 04:45, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: In mho posting it to the list would be great for future references and will increase the likelyhood of being found. The hope is that future searchers would find that link and follow it to the source. The site is getting plenty of traffic so I wouldn't worry about it disappearing. The bigger reason for moving it to the web, though, is that I can take advantage of hypertext and linking to other relevant articles. I split the original topic into about five subtopics, each with more detail than what I'd originally written. That way people who already know some of the information don't have to read it again, and people who don't already know it have a ready reference to the parts they don't understand. I have forwarded your initial post to several friends who don't subscribe to the list for lack of time and they were very grateful and happy. It saved them a lot of time. Great! I'm glad it was helpful. -- Kirk Strauser pgpa8Yz16iLpO.pgp Description: signature
Re: How I set up my Microsoft Trackball Optical
On Friday 16 July 2004 16:43, Ryan Waye wrote: Thanks for the controbution, I actually will probably end up using that in a couple of days. Cool. Let me/us know how well it works out for you. -- Kirk Strauser pgp5LOeJlfAKj.pgp Description: signature
Re: How I set up my Microsoft Trackball Optical (followup)
On Friday 16 July 2004 16:37, Kirk Strauser wrote: This was kind of a pain in the neck, so I'm collecting my experiences into one Googleable post for the sake of the next person. I added a modified version of this post to my wiki at http://subwiki.honeypot.net/cgi-bin/view/Computing/ExtraMouseButtons . I will be maintaining that document as appropriate, but will not post updates to this mailing list (for the sake of the majority who probably couldn't care less about it). -- Kirk Strauser pgpQcN0NmtzqS.pgp Description: signature
Inconsistent results right-clicking on Konqueror's bookmark toolbar
I use Debian/unstable at home and at work, and both machines are updated to within the last couple of days. At home, if I right-click on an entry in Konqueror's bookmark toolbar, I get a menu with Add Bookmark Here, Open Folder in Tabs, and Open Folder in Bookmark Editor. If I do the exact same thing at work, I get a Toolbar Menu with Orientation, Text Position, Icon Size, etc., just as if I'd right-clicked on any random toolbar in another KDE application. Any idea where a config option to enable/disable this behavior would live, whether through a GUI or by editing a text file? -- Kirk Strauser pgpDFvokq8Fbt.pgp Description: signature
Can't switch from X to the console
I'm using XFree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 on a Debian/unstable system. When I press CTRL+ALT+F1, xev reports that the XF86_Switch_VT_1 symbol is being generated, but I can never get to any other virtual terminal. Here're the results from xev of pressing control, alt, and F1 in order: KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x3c1, root 0x8d, subw 0x0, time 71155431, (48,786), root:(52,810), state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x3c1, root 0x8d, subw 0x0, time 71156335, (48,786), root:(52,810), state 0x4, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x3c1, root 0x8d, subw 0x0, time 71157191, (48,786), root:(52,810), state 0xc, keycode 67 (keysym 0x1008fe01, XF86_Switch_VT_1), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: This has been going on for a while and it's driving me nuts. If X ever hangs or I get in some other weird state (such as when BZFlag eats the keyboard - see Debian's bug database for details), then I have to log in to another machine, SSH into my workstation, and fix things from there. This isn't conducive to easy adminstration. Any ideas? -- Kirk Strauser pgp755XgPJaH7.pgp Description: signature
Re: Tiny X pointer
On Thursday 2004-07-15 08:59 pm, dircha wrote: Albeit you never would have guessed there is a package to do it. I didn't either, so I went to Google first. Give the big-cursor package a try; works for me. D'oh! I can't believe I missed that. Thanks! -- Kirk Strauser pgptWLUVOLduJ.pgp Description: signature
Re: Tiny X pointer
On Thursday 2004-07-15 09:31 pm, Greg Folkert wrote: look for: x-cursor-theme There you have it. Actually, after my post I found a similar option in the KDE Control Center (which was obvious enough once I saw it). Although the preview pointers didn't appear to be much larger than the standard pointer, they seem to be significantly bigger in practice. -- Kirk Strauser pgp9l72v6I7J1.pgp Description: signature
Re: LPRng, Debian, and OS X
On Friday 2004-07-16 01:25 am, Jim McCloskey wrote: Well, it's not *my* Mac . Given that you stated OS X in the subject line, yes it is - unless you've done some serious surgery to your setup. More seriously, I've configured CUPS before on a different system, and that experience was as horrific as Eric Raymond's[1]. Do you have kprinter already installed on your system? If not, then apt-get install kdeprint to get it. Honestly, I'd be hard pressed to imagine a much simpler way to configure a local (serial/parallel/USB) or remote (Samba, CUPS, IPP, LPD) printer. It saves the setup to the local CUPS config file, so even if you don't use KDE it's a nice way to bootstrap your system. -- Kirk Strauser pgplYlGwA3b2v.pgp Description: signature
Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p
On Friday 2004-07-16 08:59 am, Duggan wrote: I know that this is a really n00bish question, but I have to ask. What is the command that limits output from a command to just a page at a time, like the /p command in DOS? less (or more). As in, instead of running $ command you pipe it's output into less (or more): $ command | less Et voila! You get the output one page at a time. -- Kirk Strauser pgpKY8EBeDaZB.pgp Description: signature
Re: When Will Postscript PPC FireFox Be Available?
On Friday 16 July 2004 11:45, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: This is in unstable ;-) Excellent! And did you happen to notice if it support Postscript printing as the original poster asked? ;-) -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How I set up my Microsoft Trackball Optical
. *** Step 5: Profit! Now I enjoy the use of those extra little buttons that I'd otherwise be ignoring. In Firefox and Konqueror, they quickly switch between open tabs. In Konsole, they flip between running sessions. I'm only owned the trackball for about two hours total at this point so I imagine I'll find more uses for them as I get used to it. So, in recap, I made a small edit to XF86Config. Then I created config files for xmodmap and imwheel. Finally, made sure that both of those commands are run at login so that my mouse settings are always available. Although each step turned out to be pretty easy and logical, they weren't terribly obvious to me at first. I thought I'd save others the aggravation by sharing the steps that worked for me. In a nutshell, if you're considering a multi-button mouse or trackball but don't know if you could use all of the extra buttons, the answer is probably yes. For my Microsoft Trackball Optical, that's definitely true. Enjoy! -- Kirk Strauser pgp1JEAJvqb7M.pgp Description: signature
Tiny X pointer
I use X 4.3.0 on a Debian/unstable system. It's running at 1600x1200 (at 85Hz :) ) on a 19 monitor, and the display is perfect except that my mouse pointer is tiny (smaller than 12pt fonts). I've been using X for years but it's never occurred to me to want a large pointer. Where should I look for that setting? -- Kirk Strauser pgp2mG0zOu8t8.pgp Description: signature
Re: How I killed^Wdecided Kirk is a good guy.
On Tuesday 2004-07-13 06:23 pm, Greg Folkert wrote: Well, the thing that made me decide you were an Good Doobie rather than a stuck up barsterd... Just so I know, is there any reason you thought that I *might be* a stuck up bastard before I emailed you? :) That my dear sir, is one of the signs of some person whom this world needs. So, I have have a sub-menu in my pR0n Coll^W^W tech-docs just related to your stuff. That's very kind of you, Greg. Thank you for the encouragement. -- Kirk Strauser pgp5v1LR0mKQ0.pgp Description: signature
How I killed spam without TMDA
I've been following the thread about TMDA with some interest, mainly because I recently started rejecting about 99.9% of incoming spam *without* using challenge-response or other load-increasing methods. For details, read: http://subwiki.honeypot.net/cgi-bin/view/Freebsd/FilterMailWithPostFix I wrote this article based on my experience on a FreeBSD server, but there's nothing that couldn't be converted directly for use on a Debian system. In a nutshell, before implementing this plan, I was receiving about 600 emails and 50 spams per day. Afterward, I'm receiving about 600 emails and 1 spam (yes, one) per day. In other words, I don't seem to be having any false positives at all. -- Kirk Strauser pgpXtcBAfu2ho.pgp Description: signature
Re: How I killed spam without TMDA
On Tuesday 2004-07-13 11:49 am, Greg Folkert wrote: I like your attitude Kirk. I have used many of your snippets/pages to make things more workable in the WWOIT (Wonderful World Of Information Technology) Thanks, Greg! I appreciate the feedback. I can say this, those .cf directives are portable to Exim(v4.x) as well. No kidding? I don't know much about Exim but that surprises me. I too have seen a severe drop in my Spam. I am even using RulesDuJour I've started using RulesDuJour, too. However, I really mean what I say in the comments: by the time email gets to the ClamAV/SpamAssassin phase, the vast majority (read: nearly all) of spam and viruses have already been filtered. SpamAssassin has been tagging an average of zero to two spams *per day*, and I've not received more than one false negative in a given day. For all intents and purposes, I no longer receive spam. I am so completely thrilled with these filters' performance that I wanted to share the good news. :) -- Kirk Strauser pgpehpAD1niZQ.pgp Description: signature
Re: How I killed spam without TMDA
On Tuesday 2004-07-13 01:17 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: As well as legitimate mail. :) Very little. Most of the filtering magic is via greylisting which has proven to be remarkably effective. But that's only 1/2 the equation. False positives are far more destructive than false negatives. How many false positives do you get in any given day? I don't have figures, but I've noticed no decrease in the amount of mail I'm receiving every day. As for my comment about false positives, here's one for you. Literally. Check your logs for this message I'm sending right to you (I normally trim out copies to the author) and see what it says. :D For the benefit of everyone on the list who isn't me: Jul 13 13:17:25 kanga postfix/smtpd[84603]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from olethros.dmiyu.org[64.251.10.196]: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [64.251.10.196] blocked using sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org; http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL4091; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=ESMTP helo=dmiyu.org Visiting that URL gives: 64.251.0.0/19 is listed on the Register Of Known Spam Operations (ROKSO) database as being assigned to, under the control of, or providing service to a known professional spam operation run by Infolink / Prieur Leary III. [...] As this is a known professional spam operation, it is important that all service to the Infolink / Prieur Leary III spam operation be terminated before this listing can be removed from the SBL. There can be no functioning web site, mail or DNS server still serving the spam operation in 64.251.0.0/19. To have record SBL4091 (64.251.0.0/19) removed from the SBL, the Abuse/Security representative of ARIN (or the Internet Service Provider responsible for connectivity to 64.251.0.0/19) needs to contact the SBL Team to advise how the spam problem has been terminated. I feel badly that your ISP has taken on a spammer as a paying customer, and that it is causing problems for you and their other legitimate customers, but it seems as though the blacklist is returning accurate information. I trust that you're not a spammer, but my mailserver has a pretty good (and seemingly valid) reason to believe that mail originating from your netblock is likely to be spam. Have you screamed at your ISP yet? -- Kirk Strauser pgp9eXFAdytES.pgp Description: signature
Re: How I killed spam without TMDA
On Tuesday 2004-07-13 01:17 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: As for my comment about false positives, here's one for you. Literally. Check your logs for this message I'm sending right to you (I normally trim out copies to the author) and see what it says. :D You just encouraged me to make a long-overdue change that I kept meaning to add but hadn't gotten around to. I just inserted sender and recipient access lists to the ruleset to explicitly white- or blacklist individual senders or destination addresses. -- Kirk Strauser pgp9g04TKVDlU.pgp Description: signature
Re: How I killed spam without TMDA
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 08:13 pm, John Summerfield wrote: Is this correct? check_sender_access hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sender_access check_sender_access hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/recipient_access Nope. Good eye - I made an error when transcribing changes in my local config to the version on the site. I updated the second line to check_recipient_access on the webpage. -- Kirk Strauser pgppVzUgo0qou.pgp Description: signature
Re: personal crontab entry
On Thursday 2004-07-08 02:28 pm, Thomas Adam wrote: --- Rodney D. Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been experimenting with kcron, and setting up couple of personal cron jobs, but I can't seem to find where kcron saves this info to. /etc/crontab Huh? Try /var/spool/cron/crontabs/$USER instead. -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: home videos to DVD
On Monday 05 July 2004 12:57 pm, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Bill, in the name of all debian users home-movie makers, you deserve recognition in the hall of fame for your good howto. Bill's post begins with: +-+ | DV-to-DVD-HOWTO | +-+ v1.0, 2004/01/05, Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank him for posting it, if you will, but note that he didn't claim to have written it. -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which is faster ? ext3, reiserfs, xfs, jfs
here's the fun freebie script to test which filesystem is faster - format the disk(partitions) once - do 3 passes copying 2.3GB of files from /dev/hda to /dev/hdc Your benchmark is fundamentally skewed. It uses tar to copy files from your root dirctory to $MNT without caching the intermediate tarballs. This means that in each case, you're also measuring the read speed of your normal filesystems in addition to the write speed of your target. In the first pass, you're also timing the speed at which your filesystems can fill their directory listing caches, which will artificially improve subsequent runs. -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] yahoo protocol switching
On Wednesday 2004-06-30 03:40 pm, Nori Heikkinen wrote: so i took matters into my own hands. i'm having a small group of us (10-15) download gaim and other clients, and sign up at gabfest.net (thanks a lot, jamin!), for a proof-of-concept; we'll hopefully migrate to our own server soon. i told him about this, and he got all excited about involving developers in the IT side of things (we're a smaaall company, you see) ... looks like the wheels are in motion. Congrats! That was an excellent handling of the situation. Please keep us updated on how it works out, would you? -- Kirk Strauser pgp5TL39zHNQR.pgp Description: signature
Re: ide: Assuming 33MHz
On Monday 2004-06-28 09:11 pm, Alvin Oga wrote: if your cpu is running at say less than 75% load, your system is NOT being used to the fullest extent for the $$$ you paid :-) Exception: we spec our webservers for *latency*, not *throughput*. Even if we only get 20 hits per day, I want them to be served quickly. -- Kirk Strauser pgpSrRly47OJq.pgp Description: signature
Re: ide: Assuming 33MHz
On Tuesday 2004-06-29 09:32 am, John Summerfield wrote: Did you not observe the smiley? Sure, but I've heard people make that argument in all seriousness, and the smiley doesn't necessarily mean that Alvin disagreed with what he was saying. -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: latency Re: ide: Assuming 33MHz
On Tuesday 29 June 2004 02:58 pm, Alvin Oga wrote: for best latency performance: i'm assuming that you have 15K rpm scsi disks or even 10K ide disks to eliminate disk latency Yep. and one ide disk per ide cable and .. and you're using fastest speed ddr memory your mb supports Nope. We're using the fastest ECC DIMMS we could find. and tons of memory in the mb, 2GB seems to make some systems run 10x faster since its all in memory instead of disk Just 1.5GB. and you've tuned nfs and the tcp stack to minimum latency for fastest delivery across the wire Gig-eth across a FreeBSD server. Yeah, we've done some work on it. :) but if they other end is on a 56K dialup, it wont matter that we can deliver content in 10^-99 seconds The biggest bottleneck is that our site does a lot of image manipulation for various reasons. When the user has just requested that we turn a bunch of 300DPI scanned TIFFs into a single PDF, we'd be hard-pressed to overspec our processing and memory needs. That's the kind of latency reduction I find myself optimizing for. Ain't no way I would've told my boss to spend this much on a PHP web forum. :) and more smileys ... :-) Received loud and clear. :) -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox, X-selection
On Monday 2004-06-28 10:48 am, Brendan Halpin wrote: but not Emacs-Firefox. In extremis, I use the xclipboard but this is really inconvenient. Any ideas? Have you tried explicitly yanking from the Emacs buffer with M-w? -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] yahoo protocol switching
On Thursday 2004-06-24 12:48 pm, Nori Heikkinen wrote: has anyone else been bitten by this, and found a workaround? I don't mean to sound like an ass, but that's what happens when you rely on the whims of a proprietary vendor. Set up a Jabber server and start migrating your friends to it. -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] yahoo protocol switching
On Thursday 2004-06-24 03:47 pm, Nori Heikkinen wrote: dude, i totally would, but this one is not under my control -- my company uses yahoo IM to do half of our work, and i don't think they're open to switching. Ouch! That's not a great situation. i'll propose it to my boss, but people can be surprisingly resistent to change ... Here's how you suggest it: Boss, there's a great solution that we can use for free, and it gives us complete control over our messaging system. It's secure because our information never leaves our network unless we want it to, and we can put free encryption on it so that messages from salespeople out in the field can't be intercepted by our Internet company. -- Kirk Strauser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-18T14:34:27Z, Daniel B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone every tried _combining_ a graphical view with a command line in the window? Open Konqueror. Select Window - Show Terminal Emulator. It opens a small shell window that changes working directies as you navigate through the graphical representation above it (if it doesn't, click the little box in the bottom-right corner of the shell and the graphic manager - the piece of chain indicates that those views are now linked together). Now, click to select the files you want. Drag them to the shell and click paste on the window that pops up. That pastes the names of all the files you've selected into the shell's command line. Hit ^A to go to the beginning of the line, type your command, and be happy. :) -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpzlzPZiH6Mn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-16T06:03:14Z, Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another issue is that more gui and more memory mean more power which translate to less battery time on the laptop. OK, that's a valid point that I won't dispute. I've always bought used laptops and I've yet to get one with a working battery, so I've never personally experienced that problem. :) -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp1claFQVr49.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-16T05:35:57Z, William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have P4 3.2 + 9800XT, 1 gig memory === Fluxbox Desktop 1 w/ 4 gnome terminals Gbuffy. Desktop 2 w/ Firefox full screen. I have to ask, what are you doing in those 4 terminal where a gig of memory doesn't give you enough headroom to run some eye candy? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp5o7VuChvwO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-16T15:02:37Z, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is someone actually arguing that 1s were more power than 0s? I choose to believe that they were arguing that desktop environments like KDE and Gnome require more CPU (which I would debate) and more installed memory (which I wouldn't debate, up to a point). -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpCvkJ6ByFho.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-15T08:12:39Z, Tim Connors [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Especially if you only have 256MB ram (think: anything more than 1 year old - ie, what the majority of us own). I have a K6-3/333 laptop that I just upgraded from 96MB to 192MB. I used KDE before the upgrade, and I use KDE now - it's just a little quicker when launching apps. I really don't know where people get this KDE is slow stuff to be honest. So the apps don't start as quickly on small systems - how often do you actually close programs anyway? I typically have Emacs, Kontact, and Konqueror open for a couple of weeks at a time. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpwglarFFld1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-15T03:01:59Z, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pisses me off to no end when i want to copy from folder A to folder B which are both in folder C and I have to open two windows and drill both windows down to that one subfolder and then split when I can just drill once, split from there, copy the files then close all. OK, let me make sure I've got this straight. For example, you want to copy From /usr/share/media/music/albums/Foo1 to /usr/share/media/music/singles/Collection2/ . You don't want to start with two windows at / and drill down separately, right? If so, in Konqueror, you navigate to your .../albums/Foo1 folder. Select the Location - Duplicate Window menu (first menu, third item). Click the up arrow twice to take you back to /usr/share/media/music. Click singles then Collection2. Now you have two windows without having to dig from root in each one. Having said that, do you like or dislike that method, and why? After years of using an Amiga, I kind of like the browser model now. I'm curious about how other people use their file managers differently from the way I use one. Of course, my main file manager is Konsole and Zsh, so most of this is academic on my part. :) -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp7M99GXi3v0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-15T15:52:23Z, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He got it from someone surmising that my KDE was 200Mb without backing it up. I think you're probably right. Maybe it's that people load KDE and launch one program and freak out at the resource usage. They don't realize that KDE is very aggressively factored, so that first program probably loads 90% of the resources that they'll ever use. The marginal cost for launching the second and subsequent applications is almost null. For example, I hear people talking about Konqueror's bloat, which is just plain ignorant. Konqueror is actually pretty darn slim, but it loads a lot of shareable components to serve all of the functionality it provides. It's not like it really has a built-in text editor, PDF viewer, or even HTML renderer - those are all KParts that it calls to handle a specific task. Other applications use the same KParts to do the same tasks. To me, it seems like a very elegant Unix-ish way of doing things. Noone complains that a shell script is bloated because it implements all of the functionality of sed, grep, and cat. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpBjKMupQZ1d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-15T18:27:51Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joachim Fahnenmueller) writes: Not bad. But IMHO far better: $ cd /u[tab]sh[tab] etc. $ mc al[tab] si[tab] Note that you skipped a latter part of my message: Of course, my main file manager is Konsole and Zsh, so most of this is academic on my part. :) Still, one thing that Konqueror lets me do more conveniently than a shell prompt is interact with remote filesystems. I can use the sftp:// or fish:// methods to browse filesystems on servers located elsewhere, then drag-and-drop files to windows browsing local Samba shares (and vice versa). Those things are obviously *possible* from a text shell, but Konqueror makes the process a lot easier. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpF2boVeKYdP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
At 2004-06-16T01:26:28Z, Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried my system with fvwm and gnome (sorry, don't have kde installed) with everything else unchanged, memory usage on startup before starting any programs as about 15MB-20MB difference, that a lot when all I have on my laptop is 256MB memory. Here's the big kicker, though: although startup takes more resources, launching addition programs will take less additional memory. Launching KWord from a Konsole window in a KDE session is very lightweight and loads quickly, while doing the same from xterm in xfce will take substantially longer. Ditto for Abiword, but with a Gnome session. Basically, if you're going to run KDE or Gnome programs anyway, you're almost better off to log into a full-blown desktop environment. For me kde/gnome have their place for M$ refugees but I don't like them myself. Be nice, now. I haven't touched a Windows system in months, and haven't really used one regularly since the '90s. I'm hardly what you'd call a M$ refugee but I love KDE -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpoZMyzm86ch.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Warning: Sid upgrade loses most KDE Styles
At 2004-06-12T16:01:16Z, Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had no problems, neither on ppc nor on i386 ;-) Now close your KDE session and log back in. Welcome to our world. :) -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpcFJHKuskRG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best Window Manager for the Job
At 2004-06-11T16:31:01Z, James W. Thompson, II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am working on building a web browsing kiosk, no other functionality with Debian. I am planning to use FireFox and was wondering about the best Window Manager for the job. Here is the biggest catch, the system is old. Do you have to run the browser on the machine itself? Since you're apparently wanting to network it, can you use it as a thin client to a beefier host located elsewhere? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpVvWWOyXyVR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
At 2004-05-24T12:50:01Z, Katipo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a number of personal acquaintances from Somalia. One is the eldest son of the ex-prime minister. Would you tell him to quit sending me email? I am *not* going to give him my bank account information, regardless of how much money he wants to launder. My inbox thanks you. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpQfsr8jSCVP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is Enlightenment still being developed?
At 2004-05-24T18:19:58Z, Jake Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really like the Enlightenment Desktop, but it doesn't seem to be developed any longer. Is E still being worked on? Apparently so. The first hit from Google: http://enlightenment.org/pages/news.html Of course, it's rumored that E17 will be the official front-end to GNU/Hurd (with a corresponding release schedule), and may incorporate elements of Duke Nukem Forever. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpmWhig2kMCu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: packages in GNU but not in Debian
At 2004-05-19T02:20:56Z, Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is a simpleminded listing of packages in the GNU directory but not in Debian yet. As others have pointed out, many (most?) of those are in Debian already. Furthermore, Debian is not a product of GNU, and is under no obligation to package every GNU utility (although I can't think of any good reasons not to). -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpYhJZ8nUM2C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: addressbook recommendations?
At 2004-05-17T09:59:17Z, Randy Orrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are you using to edit the address book data, and where did you the get the ldap schema? I've been wanting for a while to be able to use LDAP as a shared address book, and found many documents describing how to use it for authentication, but nothing coherent for setting it up as an address book. Thanks for any pointers! I've had the most luck with Evolution as an editor, since all KDE products are read-only which makes them useless for me. I've been using the evolutionperson schema, which comes with the Debian evolution package (at least, the one in unstable), along with person, organizationalPerson, and inetOrgPerson. I created a subdirectory in ou=addressbook,dc=example,dc=com and it's been working perfectly. An example entry looks like # John Smith, addressbook, example.com dn: cn=John Smith,ou=addressbook,dc=example,dc=com cn: John Smith sn: Smith mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] telephoneNumber: 402-132-5435 o: The Smith Company fileAs: Smith, John objectClass: top objectClass: person objectClass: organizationalPerson objectClass: inetOrgPerson objectClass: evolutionPerson but Evolution formats and presents it as expected. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgpEB0sfAQRrE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: sed -n vs. sed
At 2004-05-15T21:53:42Z, William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What semantically huge iceberg of a use case am I missing that makes sed -n useful? Ever notice that sed can be scripted, and that it has commands that tell it to print the current pattern space? You can write a sed script that only prints a few specific items this way. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp1sGR4NElML.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keysigning in Omaha, or Lincoln for that matter?
At 2004-05-12T16:11:35Z, Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm going to be in Omaha, NE, USA on May 14 and 15 (Friday and Saturday). Anyone want to get together to trade PGP/GPG signatures? Furthermore, since I have roughly 12 hours to kill on those two days, I could make a detour to Lincoln, NE for the same purpose. Anyone? Beuler? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Keysigning in Omaha?
I'm going to be in Omaha, NE, USA on May 14 and 15 (Friday and Saturday). Anyone want to get together to trade PGP/GPG signatures? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DVD-rip
At 2004-05-12T20:53:09Z, Jonathan Melhuish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I keep bloody doing that! :-( Why can't the debian-user Reply To: address be set to the list address, like every other list I'm subscribed to? Google for Reply-to considered harmful for the most commonly given answer to that question. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Evolution?
At 2004-05-11T19:31:44Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: anybody know any more about this Novell bought Ximian, so they'd be the ones to support it. and its compatibility with debian? There's a Debian package for Evolution. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Good documentation on Sound ?
At 2004-05-07T15:29:23Z, Michal R. Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wow, it was great, simple and useful. Although it was not my question, thank you too :) Thanks for the nice comments. :) -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ran mkreiserfs and erased my ext2 partition!!!
At 2004-05-03T18:46:36Z, Patrick House [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any way at all to recover this? Got that backup tape handy? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sendmail -- Exim howto?
At 2004-04-19T03:07:10Z, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to convert a mail system from Sendmail to Exim. Anyone know of a tutorial/HOWTO on the subject? OK, I have to ask. If you have a running Sendmail installation, and you don't know Exim, then why are you converting to it? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Chrony vs ntpd (was Re: ntpdate doesn't fix bogus times!)
At 2004-04-08T03:04:46Z, Christian Schnobrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, and... everybody suggests chrony as a far superior and more stable solution than ntpd. More stable? In what way? Not once in the years that I've used ntpd have I ever had problems with it. I occasionally hear someone say that chrony is better than ntpd, but I've never heard the reasons why. I'm apparently Googling for the wrong things, since I can't find a comparison between the two. Can anyone give a link showing why chrony is better than ntpd, or vice versa, or how they're different? I use and like ntpd, but I'm always open to new things. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Chrony vs ntpd
At 2004-04-08T15:09:21Z, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For certain situations, yes. Chrony is much better for high latency, inconstant network access. Ntp is not designed for that, on purpose. OK. That makes sense. If you don't configure ntp right, it can screw up. But that's the operator's fault IMHO. I guess I'd have to agree. Debian's ntp installer seems to do a reasonable job, although I'd like to see it suggest using pool.ntp.org as the default server name. Ntpdate and Chrony, used to sync the system up once a day to a high stratum ( 2) timeserver are a better idea for most people, and much better for the whole time keeping structure. I wish I had a dime for hearing let's use the atomic clocks so our time is more accurate! I sync my nameserver to 4 stratum 2 servers, and sync my network to that machine. I've had clients point every machine in the building at stratum 2 servers, but not understand why their machines weren't in complete agreement. For those, Chrony looks like it is simpler to set up, and it will do better timekeeping than calling ntpdate every so often, when configured to control the host clock's time drift. Gotcha. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Chrony vs ntpd
At 2004-04-08T16:20:02Z, Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess I'd have to agree. Debian's ntp installer seems to do a reasonable job, although I'd like to see it suggest using pool.ntp.org as the default server name. Oops! I guess they already do, and I hadn't noticed. Nice! -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: udev and CD or DVD drives
At 2004-04-07T15:01:54Z, Derrick 'dman' Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you, by any chance, have the file /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd (or something very similar)? Hmmm, you may be onto something. I don't have /dev/scsi at all, although my CDROM *is* visible under /sys: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev% cat /sys/bus/scsi/devices/0:0:4:0/model CD-ROM DR-766 Should my IDE CDROM and DVD be visible under /dev/ide or similar? If so, then there's something definitely wrong with my system. I have very few subdirectories under /dev, and none that resemble bus names: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev% find . -type d . ./snd ./input ./cdroms# - empty ./shm ./pts I'm completely lost. udev at least partially works, since most of the major devices are in there. However, I just ran the 'udevtest-all' script to see what devices udev is analyzing and noted a conspicuous lack of any SCSI or IDE devices that weren't hard drives. Guess I'll file a bug report or two and see what turns up. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: udev and CD or DVD drives
At 2004-04-08T01:24:42Z, Derrick 'dman' Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 11:03:09AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
Hmmm, you may be onto something. I don't have /dev/scsi at all, although
my CDROM *is* visible under /sys:
Odd.
Yeah, I thought so.
Should my IDE CDROM and DVD be visible under /dev/ide or similar?
Yes. Well, if the IDE driver is the one handling it. If a scsi driver is
handling it, then it should appear under /dev/scsi.
It is. I dropped ide-scsi like a hot potato once cdrecord supported ATAPI
drives.
I am not (any more) using the ide-scsi emulation. I have an IDE CDROM
and an IDE CD-RW drive.
That's so strange. I realized that the ide-cd didn't get loaded at boot,
and modprobe'ing it gave me /dev/hd{b,d}, which correspond to my CD-RW and
DVD drives' locations on the IDE bus. Still no /dev/ide or /dev/scsi,
though.
One characteristic you'll notice of udev (and the way debian packages it)
is that it uses a devfs-like naming scheme by default. I suspect that is
simply because the devfs scheme already exists, some systems are already
using it, and its the quickest/easiest migration path.
I'd settle for anything that worked right now. I even purged the udev
package, removed /etc/udev, and reinstalled it to make sure that I'm running
a completely clean installation - no joy. :-/
--
Kirk Strauser
In Googlis non est, ergo non est.
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udev and CD or DVD drives
I'm using Debian's 2.6.4 kernel on an Pentium-3 machine. I'm having problems with udev in that it doesn't seem to identify any of my CDROM or DVD drives. Hotplug installs the appropriate modules, and I can mount /etc/udev/.dev/scd0 without taking any additional steps, but there is no entry in /dev that resembles a CD or DVD: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev% find . | grep -E (cd|sr) ./cdroms I don't even know where to begin to look. Do other people use CDROMs and DVD-ROMs with udev? Does it work without modification? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
