Re: Nuevo modem
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 12:37:06PM +0200, J. Parera wrote: Actualmente tengo un modem Mwave (no sirve para Linux) y estoy pensando en comprarme otro, agradecería que me recomendasen un buen modem, que sea externo. (o al contrario, una lista de los que no sirven) Cualquier cosa que diga Windows o Winmodem o cosas por el estilo. Un Winmodem es uno que carece de ciertas partes con el fin de hacerlo más barato. La función de las partes faltantes se realiza por medio de drivers para los cuales (obviamente) no está disponible el código fuente, por lo tanto no se pueden usar en Linux. Probablemente si lo único que dice es Windows 95 Certified (o sus equivalentes), esté bien, pero asegúrate que NO sea un Winmodem. Los Plug and Play funcionan bajo linux pero hay que tener paciencia. Es necesario hacer una que otra pirueta. (Ahora que lo pienso, no recuerdo por qué tu modem no funciona). Como quieres un modem externo, no tienes que preocuparte por la parte de los IRQ's y direcciones y cosas de esas... claro, tienes que estar seguro que los puertos seriales en tu computadora soportan el modem (en estos días eso se da casi por un hecho) Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt+rxvt
Hi, I'm currently using Pine as my mail reader, but I'm considering switching to Mutt (or Rmail). I'm having a little trouble with mutt. First, I can't get it NOT to display characters with a bold font on an rxvt (on an xterm the colors are a total mess[1]). And second, I can't get the pager to display things like áéíóú (accented characters, or anything not ascii for that matter). Instead of the characters, it prints a . Also, does anybody have a muttrc with more pine-like bindings? (The one's on Pine.muttrc are not close enough) I don't mind getting used to new bindings, but some of them are annoying. For example, on the pager, it'd be nice to scroll by lines instead of pages using down (I haven't looked into this particular one, I'm just asking) Thanks, Marcelo [1] If I say color index white black, I get normal (not bold) white text on black, but if I change black for something else (using :color index white something from mutt) I no longer have white text. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problemas con un IDE
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Antonio Vieiro Varela wrote: ¿Se puede meter el CD en el segundo IDE como maestro? ¿Se obtiene más velocidad teniendo los dos discos duros en el primer IDE o no? Teoría: da lo mismo. Práctica: no da lo mismo. Si el BIOS (o la BIOS, como ustedes dicen ;-) es un poco malo (los chipsets CMD sobresalen aquí) no solo no da lo mismo, ¡sino que el disco duro camina a la velocidad del CD-ROM! Los chipsets nuevos manejan esto a la perfección. En *teoría* el aparato funcionando como maestro debe ser capaz de transferir más rápido que el esclavo, pero usualmente no se observa diferencia con discos iguales... mira en http://www.motherboards.com (creo que así era) para una buena discusión de chipsets y sus ventajas y desventajes... pista: si les ofrecen un chipset 4[43]0[VT]XPro (el Pro es el detalle importante), salgan corriendo como locos... Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: menus don't show up in hamm
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:
Thanks for looking into this.
My pleasure.
It does look ok... are /etc/menu-methods/{wmaker,wmstyle} executable?
(This gotta be it!)
If you do:
$ chmod +x /etc/menu-methods/{wmaker,wmstyle}
$ update-menus -v
does it work?
Marcelo
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Anybody know how to tell for how long has ppp-if been up?
Hi, I'm looking into hacking asmodem/wmppp to make one of them display for how long has the ppp line been up, but I don't have a clue on how to do that. Any ideas? Just for the record. wmppp already does that, but it depends on its own scripts to do that, and I want it to use Debian's pon and poff. asmodem is really neat, 'cause it can be started after the line has come up, and it works, but it does very little besides flashing TX/RX/CD. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Random Broken Pipe
I get this: [79 jacinta:~] while true ; do echo -n . ; /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display WindowMaker | grep -q 'WindowMaker-newstyle' ; done .Broken pipe ..Broken pipe ..Broken pipe ...Broken pipe ..^C do you see a problem with the statement? (It's just for test purposes, I'm only interested on the 'update-alternatives ... -newstyle' part) It says broken pipe randomly. Thanks Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anybody know how to tell for how long has ppp-if been up?
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: Cant help jumping in, is there an easy way to add/subtract times from the output of date??? Or do you mean that the time-stamp file would be null length and use its creation time? even then, how can you work out the time since creation? I'm thinking C... use time_t, and add and substract that. strftime is your friend here. From the shell, use date with some funky formating (something like date +%Y%m%d%H%M.%S). You man add and substract that, and convert it to another format. And yes, for what I asked, it would be a null file, and use creation date for reference. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compute Farm
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: The powers-that-be around here have almost decided to scrap Slowaris x86 for the 200 machine PPro compouter farm, and go with Linux... I need to convince them to use Debian and not RH. They want to be able to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine in the farm, without having to go to each of the remaining 199 and configure it by hand. Someone told them that RH made this easy, and no other dist could do it! Other people have given some excellent advice already. I may be doing something like this in the near future, in a much smaller scale (20+2 node farm aiming at 4+ Gflop/s). Reading the documentation, bootp seems like a good option for network configuration detailts, but, as Craig Sanders pointed out, not a very dependable one. In a more fixed situation, it seems better to statically configure the machines using smart scripts... I don't know if this is what you are up to, but you may want to check out Beowulf's home page (shows up in Yahoo! rather easily). It's RH based, but I don't see anything there that's Red Hat specific. There are a couple of kernel patches and and bunch of rpm's. I recall there's PVM and MPP. Drake Diedrich has already packaged PVM and dqs. If I ever get the time, I'd like to try to make a Debian version of the requiered packages. Marcelo PS: What I'm still pondering is exactly how RH does this easy. Last time I poked at RH, it didn't had anything to automate this kind of task. PPS: Since neither RH nor Debian actually have anything built-in for this task, Debian is still a better choice: several times ppl in the developer's list have expressed interest in further developing Deity into this direction. I know this doesn't buy you anything right now, but it may be worth mentioning. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: wmaker_0.12.3-0.4 install scripts ...
On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote: I was wondering if anybody else has yet installed the latest (as of Jan 24 98) package of wmaker (ver. 0.12.3-0.4). I had some problems with the install scripts; one I'm sure is a bug - somewher along in the install process, I got an error saying that the 'ldconfing' command is not available. I made that non-maintainer release... and yes, it's a bug, and I don't know how it went unnoticed, that is, until it was uploaded. Unfortunately it was incorporated into main rather quickly, and I didn't notice the bug reports until a few days ago. Anyway, it's fixed in 0.5. It also fixes a stupid mistake I made and nobody seems to have noticed yet. It doesn't show unless you are upgrading from 0.12.3-0.x to 0.12.3-0.y. And as a bonus, I managed to add wmaker-traditional for those of you who doesn't like the newstyle. That solved the problem. The second problem was with updating the menus, (you know the part, where the dpkg forks in the background...). Well, in this case the install script never exited from that forking -- it hung for about 10 minutes with the error saying 'aborting' and in the end I just Ctrl-c out of the dpkg process. I can't reproduce this. wmaker depends on libwraster0, which is the package that had the typo. You have to --configure libwraster0, and then --configure wmaker. P.S. Is anyone running hamm Ddebian with the wmaker_0.12* and has a working asmail docked? It won't dock. As I understand it, asmail has to be patched. I can get the 'noMail icon in the dock, but the asmail won't start unless it creates additional window...Any solutions? Install wmmail. It's the same as asmail. It's on incoming right now. It's based on asmail 0.50. The author seems to have corrected a few bugs (?) on asmail, and has plans to add more capabilities to it. The catch here is it doesn't work with AfterStep's Wharf. Sorry for the troubles I might have caused. Marcelo PS: I'll upload 0.12.3-0.5 tomorrow... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
nsgmls and W3C HTML 4.0 recommendation
Hi, I was trying to feed the HTML declaration that comes with the HTML 4.0 recommendation to nsgmls (sp version 1.1.1-4.1), but it complains a lot. When I do: $ nsgmls -e -g -s -u HTML4.dec nsgmls:HTML4.decl:23:32:E: this system requires that characters in the document character set not have numbers exceeding 65535 nsgmls:HTML4.decl:25:0:E: the specified character set is invalid because it does not contain the minimum data characters having the following numbers in ISO 646: 39-41, 43-58, 61, 63, 65-90, 97-122 The first error can be fixed changing the number of characters in the last line of the DESCSET. The other one can be fixed, but only if the BASESET is changed. I don't think that's right... This is what sp doesn't like: BASESET ISO Registration Number 177//CHARSET ISO/IEC 10646-1:1993 UCS-4 with implementation level 3//ESC 2/5 2/15 4/6 Basically it doesn't understand ESC 2/5 2/15 4/6. Is there a new version of sp that supports this? Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problem with cfdisk
Someone here is having a problem with the dos side of his machine... He installed Debian 1.3.1r6. He has a computer with two IDE disks. One is Windows (/dev/hdb), the other is Debian (/dev/hda). At installation time he didn't touch the second this, and for some reason or other, he had to pull the plug on the Debian disk (he nedeed desperatedly a file on the Windows side, and he didn't know about mount -t vfat ...) He expected nothig to happen, but he got 1FA: on boot (remember, the Debian disk was not plugged). He said 1, and it started to load, but nothing happened. Plugging back the Debian disk, he wrote a lilo.conf, lilo agreed with it, and when he got to the prompt LILO boot: he wrote win, and lilo said Loading win... and nothing. He tried booting with a dos disk, and did FDISK /MBR, but DOS doesn't see the disk (no matter if it's set as primary or secondary or the other disks is plugged or not) dos's fdisk does not see the partition. cfdisk /dev/hdb sees the partition, but it writes DOS FAT16 (big) [^D9] (I know, ^D9 is the disk label... it's funny) mount cann't mount the partition. It gives an error about an invalid super block, or something like that (he is getting anxious, and he's starting not to read what's on the screen... I bet many of you know the tune, and I can't get to his computer right now) If you can reply to me (or the list) and also cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] that'd be most appreciated. TIA, Marcelo Magallón -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
BS in rxvt+ncurses
Hi, I've already asked this, and I'm sure someone must be having the same problem... No matter how I set the backspace in X11, it won't work under rxvt + some ncurses program, for example, pine. At some point the entry in /etc/terminfo/r/rxvt was changed, and the backspace stopped working. The change isn't documented in the Debian changelog, it just says Munged rxvt entry a bit more, and also makes reference to an update to the terminfo database... xterm does work, and infocmp says: comparing rxvt to xterm. comparing booleans. comparing numbers. colors: -1:8. pairs: -1:64. comparing strings. hpa: NULL, '\E[%i%p1%dG'. kend: '\E[4~', '\E[F'. khome: '\E[1~', '\E[H'. kmous: NULL, '\E[M'. vpa: NULL, '\E[%i%p1%dd'. I don't see anything relevant here. There are far more differences between the entry that worked and the one that doesn't. I have: ii ncurses-base1.9.9g-6 ii rxvt2.20-8 The only thing I see that may be relevant is that xterm does use libncurses and rxvt doesn't. I don't think rxvt is broken... it worked before... the problem is, I don't know before what. Also, I don't want to blindy move the old entry over the new one, because I see there are other differences between them and some of them are indeed good. Thank you very much in advance (I mean it, this is getting annoying) Marcelo Magallón -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Diskless WS with Debian/nfsroot 0.5
Hi, I'm trying to setup a diskless workstation using Debian. In the not so near future this can grow to a lab with 10 or more diskless WS's, and I'm just exploring right now. I installed nfsroot (it's the one in hamm as of 07/22, 0.5-1 I think), read use.doc, and also NFSroot and NFSroot-Client howto's. So far, nfsroot looks promising. I set up everything according to use.doc, and as far as I can tell, everythig's OK. First I used the kernel provided by nfsroot but later I rolled one of my own that had everythig that the howto's and use.doc pointed out. The client boots, sends a BOOTP request, the server answers, the client gets it's IP and mounts root... and that's it. It freezes there. I scanned the logs on the server but there's nothing that seems to be related to this. Where do I look for possible problems? (The server machine is hamm, as close to lastest as my local mirror is... that would be, master.debian.org's contents as of 07/22/97 ~1200 GMT) As far as I can remember, after printing VFS mounted root... the machine should print Switching to runlevel 4, but it doesn't. What does the machine run to make the switch? TIA, Marcelo Magallon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Machine rebooting randomly
Hi, A couple of people here (including myself) are trying to set up a router (IP forwarder really) based on Debian. We have an old 486 (it's a Cyrix 486-40) with 4 MB of RAM for the router. According to what I have found on the web, this should do the work. We have installed Debian using the lowmem procedure (kudos to the developers, very very cleaver!) and it works. I replaced the kernel with a custom version that has EVERYTHING stripped (I mean it... this thing has the necessary network functions, netcard, IDE, ELF and nothing else) and uses as little memory as possible. I started stripping other things too, for example, there aren't virtual terminals, the only way to get in is via telnet or rescue floppy. setserial is gone, and I was thinking of disablig the syslog daemon, too. The problem I have right now (and this showed up long before I started tweaking the computer) is that the machine reboots randomly. For example, I was using ae to edit /etc/init.d/network to add a second interface, and the machine rebooted. I was looking for /etc/modules to remove the modules for the ethernet card and the machine rebooted. Sometimes the machine boots, stays there for a while minding its own bussiness and it suddenly reboots. Sometimes it sits there for a little longer. In fact, I used dselect to fetch some upgraded packages via ftp, and it completed successfully (even installed perl... which I didn't want, WTH!) While I was recompiling the kernel I read something about no-hlt, but I haven't tried it yet. Also, I read about no-387 but I guess this disables FPU (which I didn't know was requiered) emulation. I'm recompiling the kernel optimized for a 386 not a 486, and I stripped the floppy (physically and from the kernel). Pointers are sincerely welcomed... Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian Installation experience
| I installed debian a few weeks ago and I noticed that when an installation | disk is corrupted you have to start the installation all over again. If I Well. Here's what I say to new users here: take seven disks, format them under DOS using a full format (not quick), copy the disks images using rawrite, and verify them. I know it's not nice, but it's better than having to do the whole thing several times. (This happened to me once). Nowadays Debian can be installed using zero, two or seven disks. For floppy-less installations you'll need a CD. For two, you'll need either a CD or NFS, or copy base.tgz to a DOS partition. | Also I have trouble understanding what all those diskettes are for. Five of those disks have the base system. Everything needed to boot linux but the kernel, and a little more. An editor, for example. Several libraries. dpkg. perl-base (bare bones Perl). A shell. The kernel is on the rescue floppy. And there's a ton of drivers for several net cards and stuff like that on the remaining disk. | I think the fact that the debian installation requires 7 diskettes as | opposed to redhat which requires two (three?) and the seemlingly(?) slow | ftp-installation makes a debian-installation _almost_ an order of | magintude slower/more frustrating to install than redhat. I've never used the ftp method. I know stick to mountable. RedHat is a fine product, but it lacks Debian's solid foundation. It's *too* PnP. Once you get it with Debian, it's pretty easy to guess where something is to be found. Debian support is better, too. And Debian went up there and came back. ;-) Cheers, Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
How does Debian sound?
While I was thinking of a logo for Debian, I started brainstorming about what debian is... I know, it's Debbie and Ian, but was thinking of something else. You know, Red Hat is just that, a red hat, and Slackware is, oh, well, slack. Then it occured to me that I don't know how do native English speakers (Bruce, Ian, and plenty of others) pronounce Debian. I speak Spanish, and in Spanish there's a unique way of pronouncing Debian. According to my dictionary, it goes like this: * D, like the d in day * e, like the e in pet * b, much softer than the b in bass * i, like see * a, like a in father (american english) * n, like in now It's De-bian, two syllabes. For some reason, the first time I saw the word Debian, it reminded me of something supernatural. Browsing in my dictionary, I've come to the conclusion that Debian in English sounds *a little* like divine. Something like di'baian, with the last a like the one in bat. Cheers, Marcelo Magallón -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: IMPORTANT: RSA Data Security Challenge participants please read
Bruce, I feel I have to reply after reading some follow ups, including yours. It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real Well Bruce, with all due respect, have you looked at the numbers? This linux group has been participating for 150 hours. We ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) have been participating for about 110... but they have 10 times the keyblocks! Doesn't that tell you something? I don't think there's a real chance of beating them. embarassing to beat them. So please, if you are participating, change your reporting address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOW. I have asked the statistics-keepers to add the figure for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to that for [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I'll change it as soon as someone explains to me what the heck is linuxnet. It's not linux.org. They don't have a web server, and a simple search using AltaVista reveals this is some sort of IRC network based on linux servers. They are NOT Linux. On the other hand I know what debian.org is... well, maybe. Isn't Debian about group collaboration worldwide? That's what the controversial press release said. I think THIS is worldwide collaboration. A LOT of people willing to put machine time to make a POLITICAL STATEMENT. The money? I don't care about it. If I'd care about the prize I'll be running the thing under [EMAIL PROTECTED] who knows? I may get lucky. But that's not it. I beleive in the Debian Project, and I prefer Debian over RedHat and others because of it's users (along with many incredible features it has)! If one of the machines I administer turns out to find the correct answer, I'm donating the money to Debian/FSF/Linux. You have made some really good bad-points about what the people may perceive about Debian if it wins. But I think we can make some really good good-points if that happens. We are not trying to beat Linux. We ARE (part of) Linux. We are Debian/GNU Linux. We are NOT RedHat/Slackware/whatever. We like them, but we are not them. Please reconsider. Marcelo Magallon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
