Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 10:37 PM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 12:22 AM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mathematics: R, g++, Octave g++? yes, g++ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ g++ -v Using built-in specs. Target: i486-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c ++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/l ib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suff ix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --en able-mpfr --with-tune=i686 --enable-checking=release i486-linux-gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I meant I saw it listed under mathematics. I already saw someone who listed Python under mathematics, and maybe it's because she uses it as a calculator. What about you? Numerical analysis of various kinds - less so now since I have started using R, but its still a good way to understand the fundamental details of the calcs. involved in various techniques (at least to a pretty elementary level) and how to use some of the BOOST libs and TMP etc which can be useful in some cases. Kind regards, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 12:22 AM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mathematics: R, g++, Octave g++? yes, g++ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ g++ -v Using built-in specs. Target: i486-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c ++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/l ib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suff ix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --en able-mpfr --with-tune=i686 --enable-checking=release i486-linux-gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Cheers Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 12:22 AM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mathematics: R, g++, Octave g++? yes, g++ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ g++ -v Using built-in specs. Target: i486-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c ++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/l ib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suff ix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --en able-mpfr --with-tune=i686 --enable-checking=release i486-linux-gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Cheers Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories: desktop OR window manager: Gnome, fvwm DBMS: MySQL development: gcc/g++, Qt, R, autoconf/make file manager: The one that comes gnome, ls ftp client: ftp image editor: gimp image viewer: gimp mathematics: R, g++, Octave package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: xpdf terminal emulator: xterm text editor: vi, nedit web browser: Iceweasel word-processor: vi anything unreleased and anticipated: * anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): autoconf/automake, R , gcc/g++, Qt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude
Michael M. Moore wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 19:02 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 08:33:00PM -, BartlebyScrivener wrote: So exercising an abundance of caution I usually stick with synaptic. Maybe on my next install I'll look into Aptitude. What do you do when X dies or needs changing? I don't understand the question. Aptitude doesn't need X. It's an ncurses/command-line app. Usually, I run it (curses interface) from a VT when I'm logged out of X. I think they meant synaptic, not aptitude. The point is exactly that, that you don't need X for aptitude, but you do for synaptic. Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?
Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 05:27:36PM +0100, Martin Waller wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xscreensaver [2] 10481 [1] Exit 127xscrennsaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Error: Cairo does not yet support the requested image format: Depth: 16 Alpha mask: 0x Red mask: 0x003f Green mask: 0x07c0 Blue mask: 0xf800 Please file an enhacement request (quoting the above) at: ^^ Hi Martin, Were the errors, underlined above, the actual on screen errors as printed? If so then it is sloppy coding and a bug should be filed. If not, but caused by mistyping on your part, then could you please in future either: 1) cut 'n' paste errors into your email client. or 2) use the script program or redirection and then read the program into your email program. If you are using mutt + vim, then from within vim while you are composing your mail: * move the cursor to where you want to type the errors produced * press esc to get in command mode * type :r filename where filename is the file either from using script or from using redirection. Mistakes in transcribing error messages can only lead two confusions. :-) The errors were 'cut'n'pasted' - thats how the errors appears. I musts admit I hadn't even noticed the missing 'n' in 'enhancement'. I think 'sloppy coding' is a bit strong for a simple typo like that tho, don't you? At least it reported an intelligible error. The problem is now fixed however (follow rest of thread). Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED: Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?
Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: Martin Waller wrote: aah - I only get this error through a vnc connection (running vnc4server, etch package version 4.1.1+X4.3) - at the actual box it seems to work OK...? Then the vnc is running under 16bits depth, that's why ;-). Ah yes - that was it. I installed xscreensaver, which then comes available in gnome, and had to change the xvnc startup in inetd.conf to use -depth 24 from the default 16 (didn't set the depth previously). Thanks - I was actually after the 'poltyopes' screensaver I've seen on other machines - it was in xscreensaver. Happy now - thanks for your help Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?
Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/27/07 10:39, Martin Waller wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Hello, I don't seem to have a very wide variety of screensavers under gnome (5 basic ones). 1) Are more available? 2) From where? 3) How do install them? Before we can answer that, you must tell us how many screen saver packages do you already have installed. Hi Ron, package gnome-screensaver 2.14.3-3 (etch). In gnome, 'desktop | Preferences | screensaver shows screeensavers 'Cosmos', 'Floationg Debian', Floating Feet', Pictures Folder', 'Pop artsquares'. I hope that's sufficient information. This will give you (amongst the noise) a list of other screen savers to install: $ apt-cache search screensaver|sort Ok - I actually used '/ screeensaver' in aptitude and installed xscreensaver which has the particular one I'm after in. After some tweaks to my Xvnc server sratup as per the other branch of this thread, all is sorted. Thankyou for your valuable input. Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome screensavers - can I get more?
Hello, I don't seem to have a very wide variety of screensavers under gnome (5 basic ones). 1) Are more available? 2) From where? 3) How do install them? Thanks, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PG6:49, Martin Waller wrote: Hello, I don't seem to have a very wide variety of screensavers under gnome (5 basic ones). 1) Are more available? 2) From where? 3) How do install them? Before we can answer that, you must tell us how many screen saver packages do you already have installed. Hi Ron, package gnome-screensaver 2.14.3-3 (etch). In gnome, 'desktop | Preferences | screensaver shows screeensavers 'Cosmos', 'Floationg Debian', Floating Feet', Pictures Folder', 'Pop artsquares'. I hope that's sufficient information. Thanks for your time, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?
Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: Martin Waller wrote: Hello, I don't seem to have a very wide variety of screensavers under gnome (5 basic ones). 1) Are more available? 2) From where? 3) How do install them? Hi Martin, there's rss-glx and the hacks of xscreensaver but you need to installe the full package of xscreensaver (including the application!), right now I'm working in a package that makes this easier for gnome-screensaver including the hacks of xscreensaver as well ;-). Regards, Jose Luis. Hi Jose, OK - I installed those and tried to run xscreensaver, but go tthe following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xscreensaver [2] 10481 [1] Exit 127xscrennsaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Error: Cairo does not yet support the requested image format: Depth: 16 Alpha mask: 0x Red mask: 0x003f Green mask: 0x07c0 Blue mask: 0xf800 Please file an enhacement request (quoting the above) at: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=cairo xscreensaver-demo: /home/dajobe/dev/debian/cairo/cairo-1.2.4/src/cairo-image-surface.c:155: _cairo_format_from_pixman_format: Assertion `NOT_REACHED' failed. xscreensaver: 18:15:59: 0: child pid 0485 (xscreensaver-demo) terminated with signal 6. X error in juggler3d: X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id in failed request: 0x3600093 Serial number of failed request: 16 Current serial number in output stream: 17 e... But thanks for the suggestion - just seems to have created a new problem :) Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?
Martin Waller wrote: Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: Martin Waller wrote: Hello, I don't seem to have a very wide variety of screensavers under gnome (5 basic ones). 1) Are more available? 2) From where? 3) How do install them? Hi Martin, there's rss-glx and the hacks of xscreensaver but you need to installe the full package of xscreensaver (including the application!), right now I'm working in a package that makes this easier for gnome-screensaver including the hacks of xscreensaver as well ;-). Regards, Jose Luis. Hi Jose, OK - I installed those and tried to run xscreensaver, but go tthe following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xscreensaver [2] 10481 [1] Exit 127xscrennsaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Error: Cairo does not yet support the requested image format: Depth: 16 Alpha mask: 0x Red mask: 0x003f Green mask: 0x07c0 Blue mask: 0xf800 Please file an enhacement request (quoting the above) at: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=cairo xscreensaver-demo: /home/dajobe/dev/debian/cairo/cairo-1.2.4/src/cairo-image-surface.c:155: _cairo_format_from_pixman_format: Assertion `NOT_REACHED' failed. xscreensaver: 18:15:59: 0: child pid 0485 (xscreensaver-demo) terminated with signal 6. X error in juggler3d: X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id in failed request: 0x3600093 Serial number of failed request: 16 Current serial number in output stream: 17 e... aah - I only get this error through a vnc connection (running vnc4server, etch package version 4.1.1+X4.3) - at the actual box it seems to work OK...? But thanks for the suggestion - just seems to have created a new problem :) Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (etch) Using aptitude after using dselect - any issues?
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 11:41:02AM +0100, Martin Waller wrote: Thanks for the input - I asked because I thought I'd seen warnings about using aptitude after using dselect since installation. I am using aptitude now without apparent issue, although my system isn't a very complex setup and I'm on stable. Don't top post. :( sorry The first things to do: Run aptitude interactively (no command args) Select options, tell it not to include recommends. Then, go down the list of all packages and if its one that you yourself don't specifically want installed, then mark it as automatic. Continue going down the list. When you think you have it all good: hit 'g' to see what aptitude would like to do. If its wrong, fix it (marking things manuall, install, whatever), then it 'q' to go back to the main screen. Then hit 'g' to see if its correct. When everything in the first 'g' screen is correct, hit 'g' again and it will clean out any cruft build-up you have. Then you can continue to use aptitude as your package manager and it will keep the system tidy. Doug. OK - thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (etch) Using aptitude after using dselect - any issues?
Thanks for the input - I asked because I thought I'd seen warnings about using aptitude after using dselect since installation. I am using aptitude now without apparent issue, although my system isn't a very complex setup and I'm on stable. Martin Miles Bader wrote: Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's true, but that wasn't what he asked. Martin wanted to know if it is safe to use aptitude after having used dselect up to now, and the answer is no--unless certain steps are taken in aptitude. Christ Mumia, would you stop spreading this clueless FUD? It should be perfectly safe, in general, to use aptitude having used dselect up to now. -Miles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Math Package to Solve Linear Equations?
There are several matrix languages that support array data and provide matric inversion as well as solvers, including: Matlab/octave, IDL/gdl, S+/R. Of these, the S+/R language is the most modern. It is written by and for statisticians, but offers much the same linear algebra capabilities found in Matlab/octave and IDL/gdl. If you aren't already familiar with Matlab or IDL then I recommend R. The documentation is excellent and it is very widely used. Whilst I agree with the R recommendation, the 'documentation is excellent' bit I strongly disagree with. I count on one hand open source projects with 'excellent' documentation, although this a subjective subject. I have recently been introduced to R and forced to learn it after many years C++, and have found the experience quite (pleasantly) eye-opening, but not through the documentation - rather through a colleague mentoring me. R has huge applicability far beyond statistics, yet all the beginner docs I have read over-stress its (very capable) statistical functionality and provide only very rough guides to its expressive abilities and its wide applicability outside of statistics. It might not sound like it, but this is really a strong vote for R. I just think the docs are too biased towards to stats, thats all. FWIW, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(etch) Using aptitude after using dselect - any issues?
Hello, Is it safe to switch to using aptititude as my package manager after having used dselect up to now? Thnaks, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?
Thanks guys - I was mistaking 1024x768 for 88x600... And changing the bit depth down to 16 allowed 166x1200 as somoene tirelssly pointed out. Maybe I'm rusty or my brain's atrophied - never used to take me a day to get this stuff sorted - coudln't have done it without this list and tghe pateince of those who responded.. Sincerest thanks. I'll crawl back under my stone now Martin Martin Waller wrote: duh! My x freezes on start after I installed etch and I want to use xf86config to reconfigure it. What happened to that utlitlty? I cannot work out what package its in. Also, in the debian reference manual, at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xsrvr, it refers to xserver-common-v3 (I think I need this as I have an old matrox card)- I can find no such package in etch - is the ref manual out of date or something? Surely not? Thanks for any help, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?
(600x800, 1600x1200, etc - man I can't even type now :( ) Martin Waller wrote: Thanks guys - I was mistaking 1024x768 for 88x600... And changing the bit depth down to 16 allowed 166x1200 as somoene tirelssly pointed out. Maybe I'm rusty or my brain's atrophied - never used to take me a day to get this stuff sorted - coudln't have done it without this list and tghe pateince of those who responded.. Sincerest thanks. I'll crawl back under my stone now Martin Martin Waller wrote: duh! My x freezes on start after I installed etch and I want to use xf86config to reconfigure it. What happened to that utlitlty? I cannot work out what package its in. Also, in the debian reference manual, at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xsrvr, it refers to xserver-common-v3 (I think I need this as I have an old matrox card)- I can find no such package in etch - is the ref manual out of date or something? Surely not? Thanks for any help, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?
duh! My x freezes on start after I installed etch and I want to use xf86config to reconfigure it. What happened to that utlitlty? I cannot work out what package its in. Also, in the debian reference manual, at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xsrvr, it refers to xserver-common-v3 (I think I need this as I have an old matrox card)- I can find no such package in etch - is the ref manual out of date or something? Surely not? Thanks for any help, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?
s. keeling wrote: Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: xf86config to reconfigure it. What happened to that utlity? I cannot work out what package it's in. (0) heretic /home/keeling_ apt-file search xf86config doc-linux-html: usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Xinerama-HOWTO/editxf86config.html doc-linux-html: usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Xinerama-HOWTO/xf86config.html xmanpages-ja: usr/share/man/ja/man1/xf86config.1x.gz sorry - just what does that add to the issue? I'm not intersted in Xinerama or html pages... Also, in the debian reference manual, at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xsrvr, it refers to xserver-common-v3 (I think I need this as I have an old matrox card)- I can find no such package in etch - is the ref manual out of (0) heretic /home/keeling_ lspci | grep -i vga 01:08.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2164W [Millennium II] That's a 4 Mb PCI card. Works fine with Version: 1:7.1.0-19 (Etch). For some Matrox cards, you may be better off trying the generic vesa svga server. Lucky you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?]
---BeginMessage--- Ralph Katz wrote: On 09/30/2007 01:25 PM, Martin Waller wrote: duh! My x freezes on start after I installed etch and I want to use xf86config to reconfigure it. What happened to that utlitlty? I cannot work out what package its in. Also, in the debian reference manual, at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xsrvr, it refers to xserver-common-v3 (I think I need this as I have an old matrox card)- I can find no such package in etch - is the ref manual out of date or something? Surely not? Thanks for any help, Have you looked at the release notes? Perhaps: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#s-xorg OK - thanks. This just takes me to section 5.14 - default editor...I know you're trying but that doesn't help much ;) It seems the bits of documentation I can find on the debian site don't match up with etch. I cannot undertsand that and will not comment. Release Notes for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (etch), Intel x86 - Issues to be aware of for etch 5.3 XFree86 to X.Org transition I'm not transitioning - install from scratch on an old machine. Also, /etc/X11/xorg.conf and $ man xorg.conf. Post errors from /var/log/ for more help. The best I can do to determine my (PCI) card is read what's on the card/chip which says: MATROX - MGA 1164SG-A I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, which asked lots opf questions many of which bore no semblance of what xf86config used to ask. In particular something about a PCI Bus ID... I took the defaults when prompted as I knew not what else to put. xf86config in woody/sarge worked fine with this card - I know its old but c'mon...even shitty windows can provide a driver for it. /var/log/Xorg.0.log output as follows: X Window System Version 7.1.1 Release Date: 12 May 2006 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1 Build Operating System: UNKNOWN Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03:12 UTC 2007 i686 Build Date: 04 September 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sun Sep 30 21:12:36 2007 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor DELL D1226H (**) | |--Device matrox (**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi (==) RgbPath set to /etc/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3 X.Org Video Driver: 1.0 X.Org XInput driver : 0.6 X.Org Server Extension : 0.3 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so (II) Module bitmap: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0 (--) using VT number 7 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,1130 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,1132 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card , rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip
Re: [Fwd: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?]
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 09:10:08PM +0100, Martin Waller wrote: Thanks for yours and other's input to my irritating problem :) Did you try dexconf? I did now. It just did nothing - no error message, no output of any kind, nothing. Changed nothing. Thanks for suggestion,. but given the above, and without wishing to cast doubt on the quality of dexconf, something don't work somewhere! Man page for it gave no clues either. Is it just me or was it easier when stuff wasn't dumbed down to 'attract windows users'? I was never very quick, bit when I had to find out I could - I mean at least the docs were up to date so RTFM was actually a useful suggestionif only I could find it (or an uptodate version)! Regards, Andrei Mine to, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: 'manual' x configuration - where's xf86config?]
Right - got X working (dunno how - just ran through dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again with same inputs and suddenly it gives me something) but with crappo resolution. Here's my Xorg.conf: (what dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wrote): # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. # (Type man /etc/X11/xorg.conf at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section Files FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1 FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi # path to defoma fonts FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType EndSection Section Module Loadbitmap Loadddc Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadvbe EndSection Section InputDevice IdentifierGeneric Keyboard Driverkbd OptionCoreKeyboard OptionXkbRulesxorg OptionXkbModelpc105 OptionXkbLayoutgb EndSection Section InputDevice IdentifierConfigured Mouse Drivermouse OptionCorePointer OptionDevice/dev/psaux OptionProtocolPS/2 OptionEmulate3Buttonstrue EndSection Section Device Identifiermatrox Drivermga EndSection Section Monitor IdentifierDELL D1226H OptionDPMS HorizSync30-95 VertRefresh50-160 EndSection Section Screen IdentifierDefault Screen Devicematrox MonitorDELL D1226H DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth1 Modes1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth4 Modes1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth8 Modes1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth15 Modes1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth16 Modes1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth24 Modes1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout IdentifierDefault Layout ScreenDefault Screen InputDeviceGeneric Keyboard InputDeviceConfigured Mouse EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 and here's my /var/log/Xorg.0.log: X Window System Version 7.1.1 Release Date: 12 May 2006 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1 Build Operating System: UNKNOWN Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03:12 UTC 2007 i686 Build Date: 04 September 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sun Sep 30 22:20:55 2007 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor DELL D1226H (**) | |--Device matrox (**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW)
Re: Accessing software programs from disk
Hi Purple Penny, Many thanks for your kind response - my mail was actually a bit of a late night drunken rant :( - you know, you regret it once you've hit the 'send' button... Also, I felt a bit bad as it wasn't really helping your cause much so apologies. Yes, it's a paradigm shift going from Windoze to Linux - I just got frustrated as I was fairly comfortable with previous versions of Debian, but little bits and pieces have changed - the sum of the parts being enough to make tasks I used to be able to do happily different enough that they wouldn't work without digging around in the docs or asking on this list (which is very good BTW). One little example is the way a program called xconsole worked - I have problems with a cheap wireless network card (acx100 - don't ask...) that keeps giving transmission errors so I like to have the xconsole open as it reports me when it starts giving those problems. There's been a small change in how it works from the previous versions of Debian to Etch, and it caught me out...I hope you get my drift as to why I got a little frustrated. On the other hand, the wireless card was a little easier to set up under Etch than Sarge. So swings and roundabouts I guess. It's like having to relearn everything again which takes time. You know what I mean - kind of like when going from Windows 95 to Windows XP - trying to find all those things that have changed places between one version and another. Anyway, yes Linux is much more fun than Windows if you like learning new things - and there's always another level deeper you can go if so desire giving the potential for absolute control over the computer and great flexibility of what you can do. I like Debian because I know (knew...?) it enough to be able to use it - never quite an expert though! I don't hate it at all despite my rant - just having an argument with a good friend :) Stick at it - it pays back the time you invest in it. I have CCed this to debian-user but cut your reply, hope thats OK - glad the apt-cdrom add suggestion worked! Best wishes, Martin violet penny wrote: ... From: Martin Waller To: debian user Subject: Re: Accessing software programs from disk Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:14:03 +0100 violet penny wrote: If the ... apt-get blah, blah ... command line thingmee is the only way to do this, then I'll just have to forget it: even if I didn't have M.E. (a fatigue disorder), my middle-aged brain simply isn't capable of dealing with SO much new and totally unfamiliar data at once. It's just too much. I used to like Debian because it was free of such stuff - once learnt, you could always use it. Even if at first it was a paradigm shift. Yeah, there's that apt-get shite, but once you got it it was constant. But now, well, I sympathise with you - there seems to be too much pressure to conform with people's 'windoze' expectations of things being 'automagically' updated, things getting updated 'for you', 'for your own good'. Too many changes to too many key aspects of the system to be able to keep up with unless your some college student with no real-life mundanities (is that a real word? wotevah...) to sort out every day. Complexity was never an issue for me, just change for the sake of change, and I can't help Debian has somehow lost it's way. Just my upgrade from sarge to etch seems to have brought so many changes into my system without me being able to control them. I want to be in control - that's what I hate about windoze (lack of control or choice). Two examples - update available packages using dselect front end to apt - new kernels automatically get installed! Never used to happen. I don't want that by default - never had issues with it in previous Debian versions. 2nd eg - X - used to be a pain to set up, but you knew what the 'bejeezuz' was going on once it was set up. Etch install - worked it out all automatically! Great - but I want (need?) to know wtf is going on behind the scenes so I can tweak stuff the way _I_ want. I'd rather it was hard to configure for _every_ aspect but have control than easy to configure in some aspects and hard in others. With that I lose two ways - I lose control in some aspects and the other aspects they keep f***ing changing every upgrade. Smells like s**t to me - eat windoze! Expect flames - talk to the hand. Once a debian advocate, now an ubuntu-maybe (hurts). I gotta deal with 'Redhat Enterprise 64 bit' (F**k!) for my new job, so perhaps I shouldn't complain but, well, it's the thought that counts. I just get the feel something's changed for the less-good with Debian. Maybe thats just the way Linux is evolving. - Original Message - -- *We've Got Your Name @ Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?utm_source
Why doin't I have StringDefs.h in X11 include? (etch)
Hi, Trying to compile something that requires X11/StringDefs.h, but I get an error sayinf StringDefs.h can't be found. A find cannot locate it anywhere on my system - have I missed some important X!! dev package or something? Other includes appear to be present in /usr/include/X11... ? Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why doin't I have StringDefs.h in X11 include? (etch)
Martin Marcher wrote: Hi, 2007/9/12, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A find cannot locate it anywhere on my system - have I missed some important X!! dev package or something? Other includes appear to be present in /usr/include/X11... apt-file search StringDefs.h after aptitude install apt-file -s has helped me a lot of times when searching for stuff like this hth martin Thanx! That's a useful tip. To answer my own question in the meantime via sepearate methods was that I was missing xorg-dev (which I wrongly thought I had already installed)... Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessing software programs from disk
violet penny wrote: If the ... apt-get blah, blah ... command line thingmee is the only way to do this, then I'll just have to forget it: even if I didn't have M.E. (a fatigue disorder), my middle-aged brain simply isn't capable of dealing with SO much new and totally unfamiliar data at once. It's just too much. I used to like Debian because it was free of such stuff - once learnt, you could always use it. Even if at first it was a paradigm shift. Yeah, there's that apt-get shite, but once you got it it was constant. But now, well, I sympathise with you - there seems to be too much pressure to conform with people's 'windoze' expectations of things being 'automagically' updated, things getting updated 'for you', 'for your own good'. Too many changes to too many key aspects of the system to be able to keep up with unless your some college student with no real-life mundanities (is that a real word? wotevah...) to sort out every day. Complexity was never an issue for me, just change for the sake of change, and I can't help Debian has somehow lost it's way. Just my upgrade from sarge to etch seems to have brought so many changes into my system without me being able to control them. I want to be in control - that's what I hate about windoze (lack of control or choice). Two examples - update available packages using dselect front end to apt - new kernels automatically get installed! Never used to happen. I don't want that by default - never had issues with it in previous Debian versions. 2nd eg - X - used to be a pain to set up, but you knew what the 'bejeezuz' was going on once it was set up. Etch install - worked it out all automatically! Great - but I want (need?) to know wtf is going on behind the scenes so I can tweak stuff the way _I_ want. I'd rather it was hard to configure for _every_ aspect but have control than easy to configure in some aspects and hard in others. With that I lose two ways - I lose control in some aspects and the other aspects they keep f***ing changing every upgrade. Smells like s**t to me - eat windoze! Expect flames - talk to the hand. Once a debian advocate, now an ubuntu-maybe (hurts). I gotta deal with 'Redhat Enterprise 64 bit' (F**k!) for my new job, so perhaps I shouldn't complain but, well, it's the thought that counts. I just get the feel something's changed for the less-good with Debian. Maybe thats just the way Linux is evolving. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving MySQL database from one machine to another and remotely accessing dbs?
Many thanks to all who replied. Martin Martin Waller wrote: Hi, I'm using MySQL 4.1 on Etch and have a database (that I created) on another machine (still Sarge) that I want to transfer to the other before upgrading to etch on that machine also. Where should I look to find out how to do this? Is it just a matter of locating the database and copying or is it more subtle? Are there any security considerations? On the security note, I'd also like to be able to access the database from other machines but am unable as by default remote access to the server isn't allowed - again, where should I be looking for information on how to change this? The MySQL docs are pretty daunting for a database newby, and I was hoping there'd be some debian-specific documentation somewhere... Thanks if anyone can help point me to the relevant information source, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xconsole 'can't open console' (etch) - why not?
Hi, Am trying to run xconsole as normal user as I have done on other versions of debian. When I try to run it on an etch box it pops up as expected but with the message 'Can't open console' in it. Now, on my sarge box, which is due for an upgrade, it runs fine. I noticed on sarge /dev/console's group is tty but on etch it's root. So I changed the group of it to tty, but still no joy. So I added myself to group tty (probably silly - it doesn't need that on sarge), but still no luck. I can't see why it can't open the console - can anyone suggest what the problem is as I'm a bit stuck? Thanks, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xconsole 'can't open console' (etch) - why not?
Krzysztof Luban'ski wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 18:44 +0100, Martin Waller wrote: Am trying to run xconsole as normal user as I have done on other versions of debian. When I try to run it on an etch box it pops up as expected but with the message 'Can't open console' in it. Now, on my sarge box, which is due for an upgrade, it runs fine. I noticed on sarge /dev/console's group is tty but on etch it's root. So I changed the group of it to tty, but still no joy. [...] xconsole seems to be using /dev/xconsole - on my Lenny system, its group is set to 'adm'. Thanks - that was it. Just added myself to adm group. Cheers, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moving MySQL database from one machine to another and remotely accessing dbs?
Hi, I'm using MySQL 4.1 on Etch and have a database (that I created) on another machine (still Sarge) that I want to transfer to the other before upgrading to etch on that machine also. Where should I look to find out how to do this? Is it just a matter of locating the database and copying or is it more subtle? Are there any security considerations? On the security note, I'd also like to be able to access the database from other machines but am unable as by default remote access to the server isn't allowed - again, where should I be looking for information on how to change this? The MySQL docs are pretty daunting for a database newby, and I was hoping there'd be some debian-specific documentation somewhere... Thanks if anyone can help point me to the relevant information source, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
etch - how to relax security of xconsole and Xnest
Hi, When I try and run 'xconsole' as a normal user, I get the error message Couldn't open console'. When I try to use Xnest to get a root x login (gdm), I get the error message 'System administrator is not allowed to login to this screen'. I understand the need for secuity, but would like to be able see xconsole as a normal user and Xnest into localhost as root occasionally. I did man xconsole - nothing relevant came up; also man console_ioctls - nothing relevant came up. I have also reduced my x security so that root can remotely login via gdm from other machines on the local net - specifically via xdmcp from either Exceed, XWin32 or even Xnest from cygwin on a windoze box. Trouble is Xnest on the lcoalhost can't... Can anyone help with these two niggling problems? Thanks, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! Update screwed my box up 'automagically'!
Jeff D wrote:
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007, Martin Waller wrote:
Hi,
No idea whats gone wrong - I did a get updates thing using dselect
whilst installing some other software and find loads of my
configurations have changed.
I guess its a result of this: http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070817
First, my /boot/grub/menu.lst has been dicked around with:
- originally I had two options - multi and single user mode (Debian
GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-4-686)
now I have four with kernel 2.6.18-5-86 options higher up the
list...this stopped my network from working unless I select the now
not default option I wanted originally. I remember some operating
system called Windows that dicked around with configuration files
without asking - I avoid it wherever possible.. Don't tell me Debian
has gone this way? *rolls eyes*.
Does this mean my kernel has been updated automatically? Please no.
Secondly, OK so I can delete that crap from my menu.lst or select the
other oirignal options - but now my X sessions all start up in
640x480 (gnome) and I can't change the resolution!
I'd got all this set up nicely, and a simple update dicks around with
stuff and screws up my system - how can this be possible?
I guess I need 'educating' in how Debian operates now, and how to
'undo' the bad side effects I'm suffering, but if I can't resolve
this stuff I'll switch distros. I've only just updated from
Debian3.1 where I never had such issues - I'm upset and confused.
Thanks for any help,
Martin
First thing, take a deep breath. It will be fine. Second, read this:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. As 'help I just
updated my kernel and now stuff is broke', really doesn't help anyone,
epseicially you. How are we to advise you on that?
Anyway, did this happen in the transition from sarge to etch? or after
the etch upgrade? What kind of network card do you have? Any reason
you were doing this through dselect rather than apt-get or aptitude?
Maybe even a 'aptitude update aptitude upgrade' may solve some of
these issues for you as well..
For your video problem, you can try :
dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
that might clear that up.
But, in order for anyone to help you, you're going to have to give us
some more info.
Thx
Jeff
OK - understood the problem now.
The problem was I _didn't_ upgrade the kernel - a did an update (via
dselect with apt sources) and 'automatically' got a latest kernel image
installed, _prepending_ it to my grub\menu.lst so it became the
default. I am a bit behind the times - my kernel only ever got
'updated' when _I_ chose it and built it from scratch using kpkg (or was
it kernel_pkg?). You know what I mean...
This prevented my network card from working as its an acx100 thing
('specially compiled' (as a module I think from befuddled recollection)
with acx100 package).
The X resolution problem was booting up without having the monitor
connected - X appears more 'windoze' like now and seems to 'auto detect'
monitor capability - none attached, lowest res used. When monitor
attached (have switch between different boxes) it brings up expected
resolution. I'm happy with that as I remember configuring X in the old
days with bizarre crappo video cards and cheap monitors with little
documentation on their horiz/vertical refresh rates...that was fun :) :(
With regards to your response, for which I am grateful:
First thing, take a deep breath. It will be fine. Second, read this:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. As 'help I just updated
my kernel and now stuff is broke', really doesn't help anyone,
epseicially you. How are we to advise you on that?
Sorry - i said 'update' as it thats what I did, not _upgrade_. Yes, I am
aware everything will be fine (and it kind of is now)- with more time
investment since the goalposts have moved since earlier versions of
Debian which I cut my teeth on.
Any reason you were doing this through dselect rather than apt-get or
aptitude?
How do I get a list of packages installed/availbale through the apt
interface? If I can I will happily move on from dselect which I know and
is easy to use and anyway uses uses apt sources. Again, down to cutting
teeth on older verisons of debian...
I accept a a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and sincerely thank
you for your response which was of use and informative.
I am merely surprised that doing an 'update available packages' in
dselect automatically installed a new kernel image and made it the
default boot option in my grub menu.lst.
Now fixed.
Best wishes, a friendly interaction is always a pleasant one,
Martin
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Help! Update screwed my box up 'automagically'!
Hi, No idea whats gone wrong - I did a get updates thing using dselect whilst installing some other software and find loads of my configurations have changed. I guess its a result of this: http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070817 First, my /boot/grub/menu.lst has been dicked around with: - originally I had two options - multi and single user mode (Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-4-686) now I have four with kernel 2.6.18-5-86 options higher up the list...this stopped my network from working unless I select the now not default option I wanted originally. I remember some operating system called Windows that dicked around with configuration files without asking - I avoid it wherever possible.. Don't tell me Debian has gone this way? *rolls eyes*. Does this mean my kernel has been updated automatically? Please no. Secondly, OK so I can delete that crap from my menu.lst or select the other oirignal options - but now my X sessions all start up in 640x480 (gnome) and I can't change the resolution! I'd got all this set up nicely, and a simple update dicks around with stuff and screws up my system - how can this be possible? I guess I need 'educating' in how Debian operates now, and how to 'undo' the bad side effects I'm suffering, but if I can't resolve this stuff I'll switch distros. I've only just updated from Debian3.1 where I never had such issues - I'm upset and confused. Thanks for any help, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ASDL with potato? FreeSWAN with potato?
Hello, Two (well 3 I suppose) questions. Can I get ASDL with British Telecom to work under potato, and if so how? Otherwise, how hard is ISDN to get working? Secondly (or thirdly I suppose) has anyone got FreeSWAN to work under potato? Say if I install it myself? Ta, Martin _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
LILO gives: L 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 (ad infinitum,) after install (2.2r0)
Hello, Never had lilo probs quite like this before - after installing on a new machine I get: L 40 40 40 40 40 etc. Whats up? Tried with/without a small /boot partition, installing LILO on /dev/hda, /dev/hda1, etc. (all combinations). But same result. Pointers appreciated, ta Martin _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
ah1542 scsi CD probs, deb potato
Hello, I've swapped a scsi cd I had (working fine, btw) in an old machine to a newer one. Trouble is, when booting from the deb potato rescue floppy I get the following: scsi0: Adapatec 1542 scsi: 1 host aha1542.c: Unable to abort command for target 0 aha1542.c: Trying device reset for target 0 aha1542_out failed(2): aha1542.c: Unable to abort command for target 0 sent BUS RESET to scsi host 0 . . (this then repeats) . . Vendor: Model: Rev: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 This cycle repeats through the other 6 possible ids, and at the end says: scsi: detected 7 SCSI disks total Then the whole thing repeats again... aarrgghh! I had this working before in the other machine - WTF can the problem be? Thanks for reading this far if you have! Martin _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
how? - downloaded debs on one PC as preferred apt source on another?
Hello, I have a small network masqueraded (which is so easy to do with debian - it's the best). On the Masquerading machine (one with modem...) I get my updates off the net (and haven't deleted downloaded debs!). I don't want to spend hours on the modem to update each PC - can I set the other's up to use the downloaded .debs on the modem PC as their default (preefrred) apt source? How (if yes)? Martin _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
(deb potato) How to set default window manager for a) system b)indivdual users
Hello, The subject line says it all...there's no /etc/X11/window-managers file any more in potato and I want to change the default system window manager and find out how to get users to be able to change their own on login. Martin _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Getting gnome helix running on potato
Hello, I have a friend here who abandoned potato 'cos he couldn't get gnome helix running under potato. Can it be done (without resorting to woody)? How? Thanks _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Getting gnome helix running on potato
Unfortunately, the computers in question are behind a web proxy which requires manually logging on, so that http access method of apt won't work are we unstuck? Martin From: Robb Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Getting gnome helix running on potato Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:00:18 -0400 Martin Waller wrote: I have a friend here who abandoned potato 'cos he couldn't get gnome helix running under potato. Can it be done (without resorting to woody)? How? I did a little Woodage for the Helix-GNOME install. I'm still mostly Potato. Here's what I did: 1) Change the stable to unstable lines to /etc/apt/sources.list and add deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main to it. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install task-helix-gnome 4) Change the unstable lines in sources.list back to stable. (Except for the helixcode entry.) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Install problem with AHA 2940 SCSI (older PC)
Current stable versions of Debian won't install on AHA2940s as I have found - allegedly it is a bug. Use another distro or get the bug fixed (I believe there's a page where updated boot disks can be downloaded with a fix, but this posted to the list maybe a year or more ago so good luck finding it!) Martin Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Upgrading X (without buggering up desalect?)
Hello, I have a nice new 8MB Savage4 Pro. XFree 3.3.2 does not support it - I need a newer version of X. Seems Debian's getting a bit behind the times of late (? - well over a year since the last full release!) and there's no deb packages for newer X (for slink (2.1), that is, current stable). So, does this mean I have to upgrade X manually, and if so, will this screw up dselect? Hints appreciated, before I resort to other distros! Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: ppp hangups...me to!
I have exactly the same problems on a 2.0.36 kernel (slink - and whatever ppd comes with that) (i.e. regular echo request failures and hangups). I can't stay on line for more than about 10 minutes at a time max. My phone line is good - assuming it's not a pppd bug, what should my ISP be doing? How can I convince them it's a problem at their end? Martin From: Jonathan Lupa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ppp hangups... Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:52:50 -0500 On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:15:35PM -0500, Tom Allard wrote: According to the Changes file, (usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes), kernels after 2.2.11 needs a newer version of pppd: Yoink! Missed that! (I also noticed that it isn't in the known 2.2 problems on the web page). Oh well. :) Does anyone know of a packaged version closer to unstable's 2.3.10 for slink, or should I try and build it myself? Thanks! -Jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG public key available from http://www.jamdata.net/~jjlupa/gpg.asc attach3 __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Xlib / imake
Hi all, I'm working my way through the O'Reilly Xlib book for something to do at work and I've hit a problem. If I try and build the first basicwin.c file using $gcc -g -owin basicwin.c -lXlib Try adding -L/usr/X11R6/lib to the command line before -l and using -lX11 instead of -lXlib. I get ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory and if I try and build O'Reilly's example file usin imake I get a Take a look at autoconf/automake instead of Imake: ftp://ftp.ugcs.caltech.edu/pub/elef/autotools/toolsmanual.html Quite a good example to get simple progs working here. HTH Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: GUI toolkit for a beginner?
Suppose I must use C++, will it work with lesstiff? How difficult would it be comparing to using lesstiff from a C prog? Try V (http://objectcentral.com/). Works with lesstfif if you want (but hides details...). Added advantage that it's portable. I thoroughly recommend this, especially for beginners. BTW: Isn't lesstiff written in C++? No. Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: cfdisk and fdisk with slink hang writing partition to SCSI disk...uh-oh
I already tried that - Debian still hangs when initialising the partitions (made with RH). I guess I'll have to stick with RedHat, which I'm none too happy about I can tell you. I say bug. Martin From: Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cfdisk and fdisk with slink hang writing partition to SCSI disk...uh-oh Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:48:40 -0800 On 27/10/99 Martin Waller wrote: (I've resorted to installing RH (6.0 or 6.1) which seems to be coping OK (still indstalling...but got through the partition bit and now throwing packages on) hmmm). why didn't you just partition with redhat and then install debian skipping the partition step? all linux on i386 use the same kind of partition table... Best Regards, Ethan Benson To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/ __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
cfdisk and fdisk with slink hang writing partition to SCSI disk...uh-oh
Hi, I've come into an old DEC Prioris HX590DP server which has an aha2940/2940W scsi card, scsi disks a scsi CD and a scsi tape. Installing slink progresses to partiton a hrad disk, but when writing the partition table, cfdisk just sits there saying 'Writing partition table to disk...', and the machine cycles through resetting the disk, tape and CD time and time again. Using fdisk came up with 'Calling IOCTL() tyo re-read partition table' (or something similar) and again just hung. It is annoying that debian can't install/partition the SCSI and that no error messages are generated. What's going on? (I've resorted to installing RH (6.0 or 6.1) which seems to be coping OK (still indstalling...but got through the partition bit and now throwing packages on) hmmm). Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
I screwed up w/ shadow passwords
Hello, I have on old 486 on which I installed debian (slink) (any excuse), but forgot my root password. So I went in and edited /etc/passwords, where there were 'x's fro the password fields. Then I changed the root password after deleting the 'x' in root's /etc/passwords entry. But now, the password only works under xdm login. Under console login, _no_ password is required. How do I fix this? Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: LILO won't load win95, but no error...??SOLVED
Worked like a dream - mucho thanks! Martin sounds like you may have, at one point, had this line in your lilo.conf file... boot=/dev/hda1 if the above is the case an easier way is to uninstall lilo as follows: lilo -u /dev/hda1 this will restore the saved boot sector from /boot/boot. of the device specified with the -u option. -- groetjes, carel __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: LILO won't load win95, but no error...??
Oops - you're quite right. fdisk /MBR from a dos boot disk...? Martin From: Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: LILO won't load win95, but no error...?? Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:09:16 -0400 This is a guess based on your description of what happens. It almost sounds like you may have, at one point, had this line in your lilo.conf file... boot=/dev/hda1 and the rest of the file was the same as it is now. That would have installed lilo in the boot sector of /dev/hda1, and it may still be there, even though you have since installed Lilo in the MBR (/dev/hda). So when you choose win95, it turns things over to the Lilo boot sector in /dev/hda1 which then gives you the same menu. Linux would still boot normally in that case, but choosing win95 would keep looping you back to the same boot sector in /dev/hda1, and give you the menu again. Have you tried booting from a Win95 floppy disk and see if you can access that partition from a DOS prompt? Because if what I'm suggesting did happen, your Win95 boot record is overwritten with Lilo, and you won't be able to access your C drive. Actually, I hope I'm wrong for your sake. Tom __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
LILO won't load win95, but no error...??
Help me! I have win95 on /dev/hda1 with extended partition /dev/hda2 hda5. Debian on /dev/hdb1, /dev/hdc1=swap, /dev/hdc2=/usr/local. lilo.conf= boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b read-only prompt timeout=100 vga=normal image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 label=linux other=/dev/hda1 label=win95 table=/dev/hda Typing win95 at LILO prompt, it syas 'Loading win95' then goes right back to lilo prompt, no error messages. The linux section works OK. What's the problem? (slink). __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Easy lilo question (win95 on /dev/hda, deb. on /dev/hdb)
Hello, Having had to installk win95, I did (on the first hard drive /dev/hda) and then installed debian (on second ide drive /dev/hdb). When it came to the lilo bit, it asked me if wanted to install lilo on on /dev/hdb - well, I wanted it on /dev/hda so I said no but it didn;t give me the option. Evreything's installed Ok except I need to use f loppy to boot it. How can I install lilo on /dev/hda so i can chose between winb95 anf debian? The docs. I'm afraid have confused me as they are about multiple OS's and I'm not really quite sure about installing lilo on /dev/hda - I daren't experiment lest I balls things up. Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Best API for g++?
Try V - free, and portable to MS shite to if you have to do that stuff. http://objectcentral.com/ Good tutorial, helpful mailing list (hosted by debian.org, so you can view the list archives from the debian web site). Martin What's the best API (GUI) for writing/generating C/C++ code in Linux X Windows, in your opinions? I need some suggestions or recommendations from those of you who have used them. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Device busy
Make sure your not in the directory where it's mounted still, e.g. if your current dir is /where/cd_mounted you can't umount the CD as you're in that directory...cd back to ~. Martin From: Sami Dalouche [EMAIL PROTECTED] Often, when I want to umount a filesystem (especially the CD-Rom), it says Device Busy. So, I have to check all my xterms, apps, consoles... to see __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Language of www.debian.org.....
er - who's been hacking into the Debian www site? The main page appears to be in elvish or something... ??? Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Language of www.debian.org.....
Stranger - www.debian.org brings up the 'elvish' (Turkish...) version, yet www.debian.org/index.html brings up the english version.. er what? Something's not right, especially if some people aren't having probs. and some are. I'm connecting from the UK using IE4. Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
bizarre dselect front end differencs...
Hello, I have a couple of systems at home. One is an upgraded from hamm-slink box, and the other is installed as slink staright away. Dselect on the first (upgraded from hamm) does not include the 'multi CD' option on the front end - this was of no consequence until I installed slink on another machine and it had the multi-cd option (without it, stuff from CD 2 gets out in 'obsolete/local' pacakages when CD 1 is being read). I guess aomething screwed up on the upgrade, but both dselect --version and dpkg --version report the same version numbers on both computers. I want the multi-CD option for dselect on both compoters Help please, Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Debian to be too late released
Yes - I'm trying to persuade some people here at my work place to switch to Debian from RedHat as they 'discover' linux, but they're put off by the lack of a stable 2.2.x debian release, especially as they want to do some SMP work. OK - upgrade slink to 2.2.x, but then there's more faffing about getting dchcpcd to work properly again so that these can sit happily on our MS driven network. Let alone 2.4.x... 2c Martin Surely I would appreciate a 2.4 [kernel] ready distribution. Why? Didn't think of any speacial reason, but only thought that an up-to-date distribution is always something good (surely it also becomes more attractive by this). __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
er - how to print?
Hello, My father-in-law just hgave me an OKI OL600ex laser printer. Never having had a printer before, I've never had to set one up under linux. I read the (long and waffly) printing howto and printing-usage howto , but am having problems just getting started. I have pirnting support in the kernel (lp appears under /proc/devices) and proc/ioports gives: blurb 0378-037f : lp blurb Doing any prinitng (e.g. cat afile.txt /dev/lp or echo hello /dev/lp does nothing - lpq just says: waiting for lp to become ready (offline?) the jobs waiting WTF? The printers connected up Ok and the thing's on and like plugged in and stuff - what do I have to do? What's wrong? My /etc/printcap has a load of entries in it (not put there by me...( Could they be wrong? I don'#t undetrstand the printcap manpage - it just refers to me some bloddy bsd 4.2 (?) manual! Thuis should be easy, no? Help! Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Wordperfect for Linux
Worked fine for me, but since you can't use lots of options in the free version (equations, etc.) I deleted it. Martin From: Jeff Flowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there any problems downloading and installing Wordperfect for Linux on Debian 2.1 (Slink)? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: idiot's question on Xlib programming
You need to link in the Xlib library with the switch -lX11.
Martin
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Subject: idiot's question on Xlib programming
I write a simple program but can't compile it. Below is the program:
#include Xlib.h
main()
{Display *d=XOpenDisplay(NULL);
if(d==NULL)
{printf(can't open display\n);exit(0);} XCloseDisplay(d);
}
I use gcc -I/usr/X11R6/include/X11 xhi.c to complie it and get the
following message:
/tmp/cca002281.o: In function `main':
/tmp/cca002281.o(.text+0x9): undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'
/tmp/cca002281.o(.text+0x45): undefined reference to `XCloseDisplay'
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dhcpcd (0.70) under Debian - some problems...
Hi, I have Debian 2.1 (dual boot with another OS...) sitting on a network here at work. Under win95, dhcpcd always gives me the same IP address, but when I boot under Debian, it always gives me a different IP which is annoying as it makes it hard to find by others and myself on the network. Can I get dhcpcd to give me a) the same address each time or preferably b) the same address I get when I boot into win95? Also, when installing the dhcpcd .deb, it would exit with a config error: Error: Post installation script exited with -1 but no more info, and wouldn't work. To get it to work I went into /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and ran the dhcpcd.postinst script I found there directly and it worked fine... But dselect marks it as a failed config and everytime tries to re-install it, thus re-breaking it (I've put it on 'hold' now). Anyway I can found out what the trouble is as the error message is pretty un-informative. Finally, I want to upgrade to a 2.2.x kernel as there a dual processor machine here I want to use - I believe there are some issues with dhcpcd 0.70 and 2.2.x kernels? Are there any easy workarounds so I can use dhcpc and 2.2.x kernels on our internal network? Ta Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: M$CHAP with PPP
I had problems connecting to my provider with chap (but whether its the same version as your chap I don't know), and I used the ppp-config to set it up once all my 'by hand' efforts had failed. It worked a charm, but I say I'm not sure my provider uses your provider's version of chap. HTH Martin From: Michael Merten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: M$CHAP with PPP Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:25:34 -0500 On Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 01:14:30PM -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: I'm going to bet that it isn't liking the entries in your chap-secrets file. It probably isn't matching the entry you've made. Ok, my chap-secrets file is set up like this... ntdomain\\username isp password isp ntdomain\\username password I do know that the ntdomain must be given. Even logging in with Win, you get repeated authorization dialogs until you enter the correct NT domain. In my /etc/ppp/peers/isp file I have: hide-password noauth connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/isp debug /dev/ttyS1 115200 defaultroute noipdefault -am user username remotename isp ipparam isp usepeerdns Note that I had to include the -am option in the above because when my side of the connection sent an LCP packet requesting asyncmap negotiation (usually the first thing sent), the other side dropped carrier. Finally, /etc/chatscript/isp is: ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' '' ATZ OK-AT-OK ATDT*70,ispphone CONNECT \d\c I'm at a loss to figure out anything else to do. I have logged in using Win dial-up, so I know the username/password/ntdomain are correct. Any ideas? Mike -- Michael Merten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- NRA Life Member (http://www.nra.org) --- Debian GNU/Linux Fan (http://www.debian.org) --- CenLA-LUG Founder (http://www.angelfire.com/la2/cenlalug) -- It is now pitch dark. If you proceed, you will likely fall into a pit. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Star Office 5.1 with Slink?
I have installed and run it without a hitch on my pure slink system. Martin From: Matthew Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ben Lutgens [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Jesse Jacobsen [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian user list debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Star Office 5.1 with Slink? Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 15:29:22 +1000 Ben Lutgens wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:56:07PM -0500, Jesse Jacobsen wrote: Matthew Dalton writes: Has anyone used Star Office 5.1 with Slink, or any other glibc2.0 based distribution? So, I'd also like to know if anyone has downloaded it and successfully installed it. StarOffice 5.1 installed and works great uner potato. Very resource intensive though. It seems they've updated thier M$ Office 97 compatibility too. I sent a doc to a windows using friend and it worked fine and didn't prompt to convert at any time. Yes, but potato uses glibc2.1, which is what Star Office 5.1 is meant to run with. I want to know whether Star Office 5.1 is backward compatible with glibc2.0 (ie Slink, RH5.2 etc...). -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
dns helper w/netscape - can it be turned off?
Hello, I managed to break the motherboard of my main pc, so I'm setting up netscape (4.06...) on a an older, funnier machine. Thing is, I'm trying to set up the mail server address under Options|Mail. I enter my providers mail server, and the machine sits for a few minutes. A ps revealed a process (dns helper) running, and eventually netscape responds with the error: mail server address here:unknown host. Can I turn this dns helper thing off so I can set up my mail and news options in netscape off-line? Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: ld/Xm/Xt question
That's normal - I don't know enough to tell you why, but when linking X libs, x11 goes last, Xt next and then Xm first (or Xaw for athena): -lXm -lXt -lX11 That's the way it is and it is documented in various basic intros to X (see http://www.rahul.net/kenton/xsites.framed.html for loads of stuff on X programming, etc., including on-line X tutorials). HTH, Martin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: ld/Xm/Xt question Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:21:14 -0700 (MST) A few weeks ago I wrote and asked about a problem with X on Slink. Due to the under whelming response (including the developers list, except for Oleg who did give me some useful info) I upgraded to XFree 3.3.3 from the netgod.net site. My test case, at first it appeared to fix the problem but my main app was still broken. I noticed by reading the straces of the application runs that on my test case that worked I had -lXm before -lXt, and the main app had -lXT -lXm on the compile line. Both cases compiled cleanly, without warnings or errors, just the app with -lXt -lXm would seg fault and with -lXm -lXt the app would run sucessfully. Is this a problem with the loader/linker or Lesstif or in XFree? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
I am impressed with Debian!
It's happened to me before (under hamm, but not slink) and it was find running. I don't why it ran find but it was a pain in the ass. I haven't had the problem for a while. May be there's some process running that lokks for something in a default loctaion and then if it can't get it there forks a find to try to locate it. I suspected TkDesk when this happened to me, but that could have been unfounded. caveat: this may have nothing to do with the problem you have! Martin From: Gregory Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Patrick Colbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Barry Kauler [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: I am not impressed with Debian so far. Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:45:51 -0500 Patrick Colbeck wrote: Hey, my hard drive did the sudden thrashing thing last night too. Its never done it before (well it has in NT but not in Linux). All I was doing was reading mail remotely over a dialup line using xemacs in a kterm in KDE 1.1.1 (from snowcrash). It stopped after a while (about 4 minutes) and has been fine since. This never happened before in RedHat or with Hamm. Is this a KDE thing perhaps ?. I am running on an AST M series Laptop which has 48Mb ram and a 2GB Linux partition with about 1300MB free and a 92MB swap file. Pat -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null It sounds like a 'cron' job was running. -- Gregory Wood Farsight Computer 1219 W University Blvd Odessa TX 79764 Voice: 1-915-335-0879 CT Pioneers Board Member Novell CNE Appgen VAR -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
linking X11 libs with automake - standard way?
Hi, I'm trying to learn automake/autoconf and was wondering if there's a standard way to link in various X11 libraries (X11, Xt, lesstif, etc.). I can't find any info on that in the docs I've got. Ta __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Making Makefiles
This is good: ftp://ftp.ugcs.caltech.edu/pub/elef/autotools/toolsmanual.html I recommend it as it has a top introduction to autoconf (i.e. the configure.in stuff you're concerned about) It also covers plain makefile writing if you want to do it that way. Martin From: Dennis Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Making Makefiles Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:19:24 +0200 Brad wrote: i'm getting started writing C/C++ programs that are more than one file long, so i decided it's about time i learn to make a makefile. The make info page mentions automake, the automake manpage hints at configure.in... i'm getting confused! What's a good way to learn to make good makefiles? Which packages do i need, and where do i even start to learn to use them? Thanks in advance. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I use the Code Crusader IDE wich can automaticly generate MakeFiles. You find it at http://www.its.caltech.edu/~jafl/jcc/ dennis -- # Contrary to popular belief, UNIX is a user-friendly Operating System.# # It's just choosey about who its friends are. # -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
2.0.36 source .deb - installs REDHAT dir - piss take?
Hi, I don't know what's going on, but when I try to install (from my slink CD) the 2.0.36 kernel package .deb, I get a 2.0.36 aource .tgz under /usr/src (with a rehat package icon under tkdesk...!) and a directory under /usr/src of REDHAT, with al it's associated sub dirs! Is this a practical joke??? I wasn't amused! __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: gui progs as root in x under normal user?
I just use Xnest -query localhost :1 and login via the xdm prompt as root. voila - a root session in a window under a normal users session. No faffing about with authorities and crap. How do i start graphical programs under X as root while I'm logged in as a normal user? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: 2.0.36 source .deb - installs REDHAT dir - piss take?
From: Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] MW == Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MW I don't know what's going on, but when I try to install (from my MW slink CD) the 2.0.36 kernel package .deb, I get a 2.0.36 aource MW .tgz under /usr/src Yes, this is intended. You unpack it when you need it (with tar xfvz ) and it is also easier to handle by the packages manager. so this has changed from hamm then which used to unpack it all for you and make the link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/kernel version ? MW (with a rehat package icon under tkdesk...!) I don't know tkdesk, but if it uses a red hat icon for tarballs, then I would call it a bug. Use the bug package to report it. MW and a directory under /usr/src of REDHAT, with al it's associated MW sub dirs! It you install the rpm package, it will create these directories, as you can check with dpkg -S /usr/src/redhat. Ah - that explains it. Excuse my confusion! It all makes sense now. Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: qt1g_1.42-1.deb
From: Ivan Litovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: qt1g_1.42-1.deb Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:16:06 +0200 Hi there. Is there, and where can I download stable qt1g_1.42-1.deb. Please hurry, I am inpatient to get kde working on my new slink... -- __ Litovski Ivan Java Developer/System Engineer UNet Internet\ | / Phone : ++ 389 91 11 30 10 M.H. Jasmin 20/II - U-Net - 91000 Skopje / | \ E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Makedonija [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Mouse Problems and xdm
I think you will need to recompile your kernel with the proper mouse support, as the default kernel doesn't come with ps/2 mouse support I believe (at least, that was the case when exactly the same thing happened to me!). Martin mouse that plugs into my PS2 port (the one that has a S-Video jack). When I ran xf86config, I selected the /dev/psaux as my mouse __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: writing c/c++ programs under debian
I am looking to start writing c/c++ programs under debian. The question is what utilitys are availble to maintain and write projects. Make, Imake, autoconf also are there any online ducumentation about the options. Probably...possibly lots. Do a search and there'll be hits a plenty I fancy. I also interested about how to write graphical programs (not neseserily complicated ones, just to display images) and i was wondering how to do it under linux/X11. Steep learning curve. Also is there some way to get help about functions (something like clicking on a function in borland c) through some external program. How do i get a list of available functions and library's, and what function is in each library? manpages for c functions Try some X libraries for c++, like Vgui, Qt, wxWindows, etc. V is completely free and works under Winows to (free for that as well). Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Help with PAP!
Helllo,
I am now connecting to a different server from my ISP for X2 V.90
dialup.
Previosly, to dial in all I had to do was change
/etc/chatscripts/provider with my username and password and the number
to phone (there was no PAP/CHAP authentication).
Now allegedly there is some sort of PAP authentification required, and
no script is run (so no expect: ogin stuff).
Under NT 4.0, the settings I use are don't run a script, dynamic DNS
server (but have their IP adresses) and accept any authentication
including clear text. This works.
I'm confused about what to do with Debian (ham) however - shoudl I not
be running my chatscript? If I just change the dialup number,name, etc
in /etc/chatscripts/provider when I dialin I get garbage after expect:
ogin
{}{#}}{*^###
type stuff.
How should I connect now there's PAP authentication and no script being
run at the providers end?
Confused,
Martin
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'Can't open initial console', 'Kernel panic: Free list corrupted'
I've put together an old 486 from bits, and am trying to install Debian (hamm) on it. If I use the boot diskette (doesn't support CD bootup), the bootup stops with 'Can't open initial console', and if I try the rescue disk, it just says: Kernel panic: Free list corrupted'. So - how can I boot this thing up? What do those messages mean in practical terms and what can I do about it? Ta. Martin Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: reading /usr/doc files
Use TkDesk (requires X...) and double click on them. They will be automatically opened up and displayed in a window for you. Martin Is there a tool for reading the oodles of documentation in /usr/doc, or do I just have to go in there, gunzip, and more? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Why not as a newsgroup?
I for one would no longer to be able to get the list. I access the internet through a firewall. The policy is restricted viewing only of some newsnet news groups. There is no way to either connect to a different news server nor post to usenet. So the newsgroup way would be impossible for me to access. Martin Why not organize as a newsgroup only available as news.debian.org ? So I download newsgroups only in the cheap night time, and I go at day time only very short online for importnat emails. But because debian is an email list, and not a newsgroup, this technic to avoid high telepohne bills is not useable. So why not change it to a privat (only on one server available) newsgroup? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: PS/2 Mice not working =(
Hi, I was getting the exact same problem with my ps/2 mouse, until someone on the list pointed out that I needed to re-compile with support for non-serial (i.e. ps/2 mice) in the kernel under the 'character devices' section. HTH, Martin HoBzIE wrote: I have a PS/2 mouse, Logitech Mouseman 4 btn, that will not work with either gpm or X, when i start gpm with protocol PS/2 and dev - psaux it says.. gpm: /dev/psaux operation not supported by device and i know what that text mens but i think its strange cuz i have had it working before with the exacly samt comp. and samt hardware, with one exception.. that is that i now have a CD-R recorder in.. could it be that the CD-R are using irq 12?? and how do i se if its like that, and if so. how do i change that?? Thanks alot for helping me out.. (if anyone does that) =P hehe And by the way, im from sweden.. so my english isnt the wery best.. Thanks / Eric Holmbom __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Graphical File Manager
tkdesk is quite useful, and very configurable. It's in the free section somewhere (X11?) Martin Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:45:12 -0500 From: Mike Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Graphical File Manager Can anyone recommend a Win95/WinNT like file manager for X ? thanks Mike Rae -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
upgrade from 14.4 to 56.6 modem - what settings to change?
I've been a lucky boy and have got a new 56.6k modem for xams to replace my old 14.4. An old linux book I have (from kernel 1.2.13, and for slackware...) says to get fast modem speeds I have to run setserial ttys1 115200 to get higher modem speeds. The modem works OK, but I'm only getting a 28.8k connection (could be my ISP). Regradless, do I need to change the 38400 bit in the connect string thing to 115200? Or change some script somehwre to gurantee fastest possible connection speeds? Ta for any info (hamm by the way) Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
\dev\psaux: operation not permitted and keyboard layout changing
Hi, I've recently got a new 'old' computer (a p60) withy 2 ide channels instead of one where my secondary debian system used to live. So after recompiling the kernel to add pci bios support for the new 'old' p60, i threw the disks from the older 486 into the p60. Everything is fine and it works a charm bar acouple of things. 1. The p60 has a ps2 mouse (at least, that's the connector type), but gpm won't coinfigure it (it just gets stuck at trying ttyS0-ttyS3 at various baud rates for ever), and when i try to force it to use \dev\psaux i get an 'operation not permitted' error (\dev\psaux exists - crw-- or something similar). Same problems under X to - the server crashes with the 'operation not permitted error'. I remember when setting up debian, the process guides you through what mouse you have - but it's changed now and I don't want to have to re-install Debian just to get the ps2 mouse working! 2. I was using a spanish layout keyboard (don't ask - the secondary system was a mish-mash of scrounged bit's and pieces), but now I have a UK layout one (with a ps2 style connector...), and I don't where to change the default keyboard setting. Under X i do, but the base system. Any one able to help me? Thanks, Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
FAQ (i guess): how to set up screen saver under X?
Hi, I guess this is a bit of a newbie question, but how do I get a screensaver to come up under X instaed of the screen just blanking? Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
idiots guide to re-arranging directory mount points
Hi, I've come into an extra 2GB hard drive for one of my debian systems - I currently have a ~1GB drive and a ~0.5 GB drive, with swap and \usr on their own partitions (I think /usr is on the 1GB drive). As I'm adding another 2GB, how can I rearrange the mount points for /usr easily? It'd be nice to have have /usr on the 2GB drive, and perhaps /usr/local on the 6500 hard drive. Is this possible, and how in a 'simple' way? Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: X-windows (ATI 3D Rage II)
At the X-Free86 web site they said to run X -showconfig I did and it said that I am using version 3.3.2.3 / window system (Protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300). The release date is July, 15 1998 it OK. I ran ls -a and didn't see any file for X. I tried dpkg --status XF86Config it said not installed and no info available. So I don't know if I am looking in the right spots or not but I can't find a XF86Config file to look at. I also don't know how to find the output of X. I know this isn't much but it's all I can muster at the moment. XF86Config is a (text) file for your X configuration. It's at: /etc/X11/XF86Config - copy that file into a mail and post it. At a command prompt (without X already running) type (exactly): X xerrors.txt 21 and press enter. When that's finished, you should have a file in your current working directory called xerrors.txt. Mail that to. That'll tell us what X is getting from your configuration file, and what it's 'auto probing' for itself. Make sure you read: http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/LDP/gs/node7.html#SECTION0070 This explains all about XF86Config and other stuff that you need to know about before trying to get X running. Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
'Segmentation Fault' - how do i find out what thr problem is?
Hi, Excuse the vague problem definiton, but on a variety of programs I've compiled (but not written...), when i try to run the resulting program I just get a 'Segmentation Fault' immediately. Any clues either as to what causes this, or how to find out what does/doesn't (-for elimination purposes...) cause it? A couple of test progs. I wrote ran fine. One of the programs that seg faults here at work doesn't at home. Of the seg faulting programs, one is compiled with g++ (the standard one in hamm) and the other with g77 (again, the vesion that's in hamm). Ta, Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: X-windows (ATI 3D Rage II)
Hi, Under BO (Debian 1.3), I had the same problem with the same video card and kept getting the message: Warning: Mach64Clkt 16 (or something similar). I upgraded to hamm (with it's newer version of XFree86) and the problem went away. What version of X are you using? What's the output of: X any name for file where x startup messages willbe stored.txt 21 (e.g. X myXerrors.txt 21) Whats your XF86Config file look like? Martin Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:18:07 -0600 From: KTB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: X-windows OK, I called IBM (I'm using an Aptiva 2137-E24). My monitor is SVGA, she said the chipset is ATI (I found more detailed info in Windows, it is an ATI RAGE II + 3D graphic controller); the RamDac she said was 24MB but after looking at the drop down menu (while trying to configure x-windows) I think she was referring to the amount of SDRAM my computer came with; the clockchip she said was an overlay chip and couldn't provide any additional info; the video Ram is 2MB SGRAM. The monitor is a G42 (M/T 6540) color 14 inch crt. So that is the monitor info I don't know if that is enough to go by. The closest chipset to mine seems to be Ati Mach 64 3D Rage II, Internal RAMDAC which I tried and ended up with a black screen. I also noticed when going through the set up of my mouse (it is a PS/2 I set it to /dev/psaux) that by default it sets to a 3 button mouse and I only have two buttons, I couldn't figure out how to change that. I didn't receive any more error messages so I can't add to that. Hope this isn't too convoluted. Thanks, Kent Mark Phillips wrote: Hi, I am trying to install the GUI for the first time. I have tried it twice and failed both times. Don't despair, it sometimes takes a while to configure X properly, but you'll get there. Firstly, what information do you have about your computer hardware? Have you recently bought the computer? You should try and find out what kind of graphics card it has, what chipset the graphics card uses etc etc. Sometimes the graphics card is an actual card that is inserted into the bus on the motherboard of your computer. Other times, the graphics chip is built into the actual motherboard itself. In either case you need to find out what kind of chipset it is. This will tell you which xserver to use. The most common type of xserver that is used is xserver-svga, so it is most likely you will have to use this one. You also need to know what kind of mouse you have. Is it a two button mouse or a three button mouse? Is it a serial mouse? What kind of monitor do you have? the instillation program it tries to bring the the x-windows up but it can't and says there was errono=111 What other information does it tell you? It might tell you what chipset it detected and other information. Does it describe anything else about the error? See what information you can find out, and then get back to this list. Hopefully either I, or someone else on the list, will be able to help some more. Cheers, Mark. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: g++2.8, egcs, gcc 2.7.2, etc. - *very confused*
Subject: Re: g++2.8, egcs, gcc 2.7.2, etc. - *very confused* To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Waller) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:30:50 +1100 (EST) Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: Jiri Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Over the weekend, I downlaoded V 1.20 onto /usr/local/. Did the same last night. I tried compiling it and after finding out that I needed all the OpenGl stuff and isntalling that to (V. annoying by the way - had even to edit some of the source code to get rid of those probelms) I left the source as it was, but added some softlinks, like /usr/include/X11/GL - /usr/include/GL Me to, but I had to edit out some refs. to a /GL/GLw/ directory included file - the header file was actually under /GL, and Glw doesn't exist on my system. But then I got the make error message: In vbglcnv.h:51:Invalid storage class specifiers decalared in friend functions Get rid of the word static on that line. This is what i eventually did, after finally gettinbg a clue as to what it meant. I didn't have a clue what this meant even after viewing the two friend functions alluded to. storage class means auto, static, register or extern; there are two modifiers, const and volatile. In this case, there's only one storage specifier on the whole line (unless there's something in macros), so that had to be what it was complaining about :-) Getting rid of it fixed the problem. I hope it didn't break anything (but FREEdraft compiled and ran okay, so I guess not). But try compiling the vopengl stuff - all the makefiles are set up for windows, even though I downloaded the X version of V. Do you know what's happened to the V mailing list? It just says it's moving on the V site. Being naive enough to try anything, and having heard of all sorts of problems with egcs and g++, I decided to scrap g++2.8 and put g++2.7.2 on. (I had egcs 2.90.29, dated 19980515). Eeventually, I did get it to compile with egcc and g++ (2.8). I had to edit the Config.mk to use CC=egcc instead of CC=gcc so as not to mix and match g++2.8 and GCC2.7.2. I didn't want to do that, because FREEdraft claimed to use fancy exception-handling that 2.7.x doesn't grok - and that's why I was getting V. There's also a way on the ftp site a way to compile V without the OpenGL stuff. But hell - if it's there why not play. (I'm on a HAMM systen still - it took me 4 goes to get a successful upgrade from bo to that, so I'm not ready to slink it yet). slink isn't released yet, anyway. Indeed, but it is clear from this list that many people with time to spare are upgrading anyway... I think I've got what's up with the different compilers now, but since compiling free source is such a typical Unix tradition, I feel that the documentation on what's going on should be more widely publcicised, like in the general info about installing/upgrading to HAMM. Jiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
g++2.8, egcs, gcc 2.7.2, etc. - *very confused*
Hi, I am stunningly confused about the whole c and c++ suite thing that's going on (I'm still in HAMM - it's *not * the __register_frame_info stuff!). Here's my story and a plea for a clear explanation of what's what and what I need to compile kernels, c++ toolkits and stuff. Over the weekend, I downlaoded V 1.20 onto /usr/local/. I tried compiling it and after finding out that I needed all the OpenGl stuff and isntalling that to (V. annoying by the way - had even to edit some of the source code to get rid of those probelms), the compile seemed like it would work. But then I got the make error message: In vbglcnv.h:51:Invalid storage class specifiers decalared in friend functions I didn't have a clue what this meant even after viewing the two friend functions alluded to. Being naive enough to try anything, and having heard of all sorts of problems with egcs and g++, I decided to scrap g++2.8 and put g++2.7.2 on. (I had egcs 2.90.29, dated 19980515). Well, of course no end of conflicts came up (had to remove libdbm++ and stuff), and further more I had to leave some 2.8 thing installed (libg++2.8? libstdc++2.8? libstdc++2.8-dev?libg++2.8-dev? - can't remember as at the time I was in a frenzy of confusion). Eventually I got the downgrade done, and of course the makefile for v complained about there being no g++, so I changed the definition in the file to g++272, and hallelujah! the thing worked. Phew. What a marathon that was and how pleased i was myself to have got the v library compiled after *so many* problems. Back in the old days, with a 1.2.13 kernel and v 1.14, it was easy! So, please help me - why couldn't egcs g++ compile v? Is that version (like some others it would seem...) broken? Or is v using some non-standard c++ shit that breaks on 'modern' compilers? I suspect egcs I am afraid but understand nothing. Would upgrading to the version referred to in the __register_frame_info FAQ work or what (I'm on a HAMM systen still - it took me 4 goes to get a successful upgrade from bo to that, so I'm not ready to slink it yet). Please help. I love linux, and debian is the dist. I've chosen (i'm happy with that), but it just seems there is so much undocumented stuff that can hgo wrong and it takes a great mental effort and lateral thinking to get the stuff i want working! Sorry for the ramble - if you've got this far thanks, Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: g++2.8, egcs, gcc 2.7.2, etc. - *very confused*
Read /usr/doc/gcc/README.Debian .
I did but was still confused :(
Being naive enough to try anything, and having heard of all sorts of
problems with egcs and g++, I decided to scrap g++2.8 and put
g++2.7.2 on.
(I had egcs 2.90.29, dated 19980515).
g++2.7.2 is intended only for compiling code that cannot be compiled
with
EGCS gcc. It's not supposed to be easy to install or use.
is v using some
non-standard c++ shit that breaks on 'modern' compilers?
That's more likely.
I suspect egcs
EGCS has proven itself to be a very good C++ compiler so far.
OK - then I'd like to understand the error message that came up
('Invalid storage class specifier in friend function declarations').
Here's the code up to the friend functions decls. where the
aforementioned error message is generated:
//===
// vglcnv.h GL Canvas C++ class .h file - X11R5
//
// Copyright (C) 1995,1996 Bruce E. Wampler
//
// This file is part of the V C++ GUI Framework, and is covered
// under the terms of the GNU Library General Public License,
// Version 2. This library has NO WARRANTY. See the source file
// vapp.cxx for more complete information about license terms.
//===
#ifndef VGLCNV_H
#define VGLCNV_H
#include v/vapp.h
#include v/vcanvas.h
//
extern C
{
//
static void CGLKeyInEV(Widget w, XtPointer client_data, XEvent* event,
char *x);
//
// OpenGL stuff here
//
void CgraphicsInit(Widget w, XtPointer clientData, XtPointer call);
//
#include X11/GLw/GLwDrawA.h // Xt OpenGL drawing area widget.
#include GL/gl.h
#include GL/glu.h
#include GL/glx.h
//
}
//
const unsigned int vGL_Default = 0;
const unsigned int vGL_RGB = 0x0001;
const unsigned int vGL_Alpha = 0x0002;
const unsigned int vGL_Indexed = 0x0004;
const unsigned int vGL_DoubleBuffer = 0x0008;
const unsigned int vGL_Stereo = 0x0010;
const unsigned int vGL_Stencil = 0x0020;
const unsigned int vGL_Accum = 0x0040;
const unsigned int vGL_Depth = 0x0080;
//
class vWindow; // we are part of a window
//
class vBaseGLCanvasPane : public vCanvasPane
{
//
friend void CgraphicsInit(Widget w, XtPointer clientData, XtPointer
call);
friend static void CGLKeyInEV(Widget w, XtPointer client_data, XEvent*
event, char *x);
//the two functions here cause the problem with egcs!
(etc.)
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Re: xdm at startup?
And to change the default xdm background, install Xbanner. Martin Subject: Re: xdm at startup? Edit your /etc/X11/config file and change the no-start-xdm to start-xdm. On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Matt Garman wrote: I installed xdm on my system. Everything is fine, but at install-time I chose to *NOT* have it start at boot-time. Now I wish to have it invoked automatically at startup. What do I need to do? Also, is there a way to change the default xdm background (i.e. the login screen)? The greyish default is kinda nasty. Thanks! Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They're always havin' a good time down on the bayou, Lord, them delta women think the world of me. -- Dickey Betts, Ramblin' Man -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled. === -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Can't resolve host names _inside_ firewall!?
Hi, After figuring out that my dhcpcd problems were due to a corrupted file in /var/run/some dhcpceth0conf type file, I now find I can't resolve hostnames/addresses _inside_ our firewall (it's fine for sites outside on the internet). I know littela botu networking so am not sure where the problem is, but under win95 (yuk), winipcfg gives: my hostname the address of 2 DNS servers a node type of 'hybrid' The 'NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS box is ticked My IP address subnt mask default gateway DHCP server Primary WINS server (same as DHCP server) Secondary WINS server Any clues as to why I can't resolve host names inside the firewall? It means I can't get apache to work (get a 'can't resolve address for hostname' error in /var/apache/error.log), and to get Xwin32 to work so colleagues can log in via X (inside firewall), I have to put their hostname and address in /etc/hosts/ to allow them to log in, or I get similar 'can't resolve hostname' errors in /var/log/xdm-errors. Please help a new-ishbie! Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
dhcpc- not getting anything
Hi, After a broken upgrade, I re-installed Debian2.0. With 1.3, I'd installed dhcpc and it like worked right out of the box i think. For my re-install, i set up the base system and said | was on a network and filled in all the info. Then, I installed dhcpc thinking it would like get all that info automatically for me and ignore the /etc/init.d/network file. Bu it isn't getting ignored, and if i take everything out of /etc/init.d/network, dhcpc, although it gets run, won't grab anything like my host ip address and stuff. It worked before without any twaeking - what do I need to do to get it to reun properly? (ip interface is eth0) Ta, Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
where should I put things for rc.local?
I want to set up ip masquerading, but the docs all talk about other dists and puting things in their /etc/rc.d/rc.local file. Where should I put stuff that normally you'd just bung in rc.local for Debian? Ta, Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
my modem keeps 'hanging itself up'!?
Hi, My modem is behaving oddly suddenly - it keeps getting reset or something after about 10mins or so, making big-ish downloads a pain. It's happened under NT as well as Linux, especially in the evenings (UK). Under Linux I get (in ppp.log and in the console) (something like...) 'Echo requests failed 4 times' 'serial connection appears to have been terminated' 'NO LINE' Also, last night, it seemed to happen after ~6 mins, then ~3 mins, then 1min until whenever I dialled up I got 'NO LINE', as if the errors came faster and faster. It seems to happen when ftp-ing (but that could be a coincidence) and before the modem get's reset, the tone on the phone is just a long continuos montonous beep (like you get when you're cut off...). So, whats the prob.? Hardware? (it's worked fine for years - a standard 14.4 internal) Software? (happens more under Linux it seems, esp. after upgrading from bo to hamm [but could be coincidence?]), ISP provider? Telephone line? How can I find out what's causing the problem? Please help, Martin There was a dialling tone tho'... But when it hangs __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: my modem keeps 'hanging itself up'!?
heh - i have one of those coming from Santa :) I'm just worried I'll get the same probelms... Martin Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:24:15 -0500 Subject: Re: my modem keeps 'hanging itself up'!? To: Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Martin Waller wrote: Deleted Crap So, whats the prob.? Hardware? (it's worked fine for years - a standard 14.4 internal) Software? (happens more under Linux it seems, esp. after upgrading from bo to hamm [but could be coincidence?]), ISP provider? Telephone line? Your still using your old 14.4? I'd try a new modem. They have some really nice 56Ks for alot less than you paid for that 14.4 back in the day. -- Kevin Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.concentric.net/~kpm76 ** UN*X ** Live free or die! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Qt going open source!
Great. See http://www.troll.no/announce/qpl.html. Does this mean Qt-dev and KDE stuff will come out of the non-free section eventually? Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
