Unable to boot from hard drive
Hi, i have a problem booting from my hard drive after installation. I've installed the stable release on a clean hard drive, no problems with installation. If i boot from a floppy or a cd, the filesystem is intact on the hard drive partitions. The hard drive is a large one, but the BIOS autodetects the size and geometry fine. I have no problem with reinstalling and trying again; i've already reinstalled four or five times, tried different partitioning schemes. Basically, here's what i've determined so far: If i boot with no floppy or cd, i get a no system disk error message. The O'Reilly Running Linux book mentions this message, and suggests a failed or incorrect lilo installation, or no partition marked as bootable. I've tried messing around with the lilo.conf, changing settings in there, but i still get the same message. I've also tried a bunch of other boot loaders (the 'install-mbr' util from the debian cd, SBM from btmgr.sourceforge.net, and GRUB), and i get no results with those as well. Finally, if i try to boot from a floppy, but load the kernel on my hard drive from the boot loader, it either can't find the kernel image or can't read the hard drive. And yes, even though the bios seems to have no problem with my hard drive, i have a small hda1 partition for the /boot directory, which is marked bootable in cfdisk. -- \ / Mike Miller \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/GATech - CmpE \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/\/CS1322 TA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\/\
Re: Unable to boot from hard drive
You wrote: When you say that you messed around with lilo.conf changing settings, did you also try doing /sbin/lilo after changing the settings? Did you see where the label for linux was installed when you ran it? I think it might help to see your /etc/lilo.conf and the partition table. I am more familiar with how that looks from fdisk and usually just do: fdisk -l /dev/hda partition.table to make the file to paste into an email. Yes, i ran /sbin/lilo after changing lilo.conf and it prints the message that Linux was added, the master boot record was written. In particular, the settings i tried playing with were the lba32/linear options, and adding the hard drive geometry to the file. None of that made any difference (no system disk error, lilo not loaded at all). Here's what i have now (i believe it's the default lilo.conf that debian sets up directly from the installation), minus comments: lba32 boot=/dev/hda root=/dev/hda3 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map delay=20 vga=normal default=Linux image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only image=/vmlinuz.old label=LinuxOLD read-only optional And here's the result of fdisk -l /dev/hda: Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 1 8001 83 Linux /dev/hda2 232249007+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda333 4865 38821072+ 83 Linux As i said in my first email, /boot is on /dev/hda1, which is marked bootable and is at the beginning of the drive. Thanks in advance for any help or insight :) -- \ / Mike Miller \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/GATech - CmpE \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/\/CS1322 TA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\/\
Re: Unable to boot from hard drive
You wrote: I see you have two kernel's, does lilo add both when running lilo? I would check cmos settings to see if your computer is set up to boot from harddrive. HTH Dean I agree that's exactly what it looks like, but the BIOS is set to boot from floppy, cd, and hard drive. I've also tried playing with the boot order there. Also, the second kernel is just what the install puts in the lilo.conf by default. It's set to optional, i only have the one kernel image, so the second one doesn't get added when i run lilo. -- \ / Mike Miller \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/GATech - CmpE \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/\/CS1322 TA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\/\
Re: Unable to boot from hard drive
You wrote: The manual says this: (nothing) No part of LILO has been loaded. LILO either isn't installed or the partition on which its boot sector is located isn't active I don't know what it means by that except that it sounds like it would be important if you were putting LILO in a partition and not in the mbr. I have the line boot=/dev/hda as the first line. That may be important. That's how i have mine, set to /dev/hda instead of /dev/hda1 (the mbr instead of at the start of my boot partition). If lilo is installed in a partition instead of in the mbr, (a) should the mbr be wiped clean, and if so how, and (b) how does the system know which partition to transfer control to if there is nothing in the mbr? Is that where the partition flagged bootable takes over? I'm curious what would happen if you tried installing lilo on a floppy. I know it's not a solution, but it would be additional information. You can do this by changing the top line to boot=/dev/fd0 and put a floppy in the drive and run /sbin/lilo. Then see if it will boot from that. If that works, then it at least shows you that this problem has to do with where LILO is getting installed. Maybe you could just install it on /dev/hda1 instead of the mbr. OK, after installing to a floppy (the boot=/dev/fd0 was the only change i made), i get a 'L 01 20 20 20 ...', but at least it's loading. I don't know what that means; i can get lilo to load when installed to a floppy, but not when installed identically to the mbr of my hard drive. Is there a way to check what the mbr should look like after lilo has been properly installed? I ran 'dd if=/dev/hda of=./mbr.dat bs=512 count=1' and 'LILO' shows up in bytes 6-9, so it looks like it's being installed (either correctly or not) in the first blocks of the hard drive. -- \ / Mike Miller \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/GATech - CmpE \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/\/CS1322 TA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\/\
regframe, XFCom_Rage128, LD_PRELOAD and acroread interaction
I've installed the redhat xrage and regframe packages so that I can run the XFCom_Rage128 X server on a slink machine. The server needs the regframe library to be preloaded, so I've added /lib/libregframe.so to /etc/ld.so.preload. A consequence of this is that acroread segfaults when started. I can get around this by removing /etc/ld.so.preload and running startx after exporting LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libregframe.so. Then, once X is running, I can unset LD_PRELOAD from within a terminal window and run acroread with no trouble. What I'd like to do is use xdm with LD_PRELOAD set for the server, but not for subprocesses that are started by my window manager. Where can I set an environment variable for the X server so that I don't have to use /etc/ld.so.preload or startx? Mike
Re: Subjects not so comfortable
Andrea == Andrea Novara [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! I have a small config feeling question? Since we spawn hundreds of messages each day, it would be more comfortable to have a constant string in subjects such as [ DEBIAN ] that allows easy filtering. There is an X-Mailing-List header that you can filter on - it includes the list name. Mike
Re: ZIP Disk mounting
Dale == Dale E Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Once a filesystem is on the disk, you can mount it just like any other partition: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt To simplify mounting even further, I put this in my /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1 /zip ext2 noauto,user,nodev,noexec,nosuid,rw 0 0 This lets me (or any user) mount a zip disk with the command mount /zip. Mike
Re: terminfo
timothy == timothy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! The export, or 'set' in this case term variable works. However, I modifed the .login file as you suggested set TERMINFO=~/.terminfo, but it still doesn't recognize xterm-debian when I login. :(. Any ideas? The shell is csh. Well, are you sure that you've correctly copied the Debian xterm-debian file to ~/.terminfo/x/xterm-debian? If so, I think that setenv TERMINFO ~/.terminfo is what you'll need for csh. Mike
Re: terminfo
timothy == timothy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am telnetting an AIX machine and trying to run pine and it says No terminfo entry for XTERM-DEBIAN. in xterm, and similarly for when i'm in rxvt. Before my terminfo was just xterm i think, and it worked, how do i get it back to this so I can check my mail when I telnet in? I know of two possibilities... The simple fix (that gets tedious after a while) is to do an export TERM=xterm on the AIX machine each time you login. The nearly as simple fix (that is automatic once it is set up) is to create a ~/.terminfo/x/ directory on your non-Debian account. Copy /etc/terminfo/x/xterm-debian from your Debian machine to the new .terminfo directory and, in your non-Debian machine shell initialization scripts (i.e. .bashrc), add export TERMINFO=~/.terminfo. That will do it. I also tend to make a copy of terminfo/r/rxvt for machines that don't have rxvt entries. Mike -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
freeing space on /usr?
I'd like to make a little more room on my /usr partition. Is it safe to move /usr/doc to somewhere else and make a symbolic link back? Is there something more appropriate that can be moved to make space? Mike
Re: Problems with debian-user-digest?
Gary == Gary L Hennigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't received anything from the digest version of this list in about 6 days. I've had the same problem - haven't received anything from either debian-user-digest or debian-devel-digest since Aug 13. I've asked the listmaster about it and will follow up here when I hear back. Mike -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
smalleiffel eiffel-mode for emacs?
Has anyone got a working copy of eiffel-mode for emacs? The copy I have works somewhat, but does not do font-lock-ing properly with emacs 20.0. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Date-stamp in filename for a script
Jay == Jay Barbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TIMESTAMP='date +backup%y%m%d.tar.gz' tar czvf $TIMESTAMP Try reversing the quotes: TIMESTAMP=`date +backup%y%m%d.tar.gz`. That will do the trick. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to administer Debian Linux cluster? [Re: How to build Debian Linux cluster?]
I have a related question. We are considering putting together a collection of Linux machines, but our major concern is administration. Because we are the fortunate recipients of government funding, we are in the situation where we can fairly easily purchase hardware, but there is no way we can afford to hire someone to administer the hardware. That means that we need to come up with a collaborative administration scheme that keeps things fairly simple while maintaining security. Any comments on successful (or not so successful) schemes? Regards, Mike -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I check disk space?
Keith == Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to know how do I check how much disk space I have left on my drives. df reports free disk space. `du -s' can be used to find how much space a particular directory tree uses. Mike -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ppgplot and G77_getenv_0?
I'm trying to build the python ppgplot module (two p's) on a Debian 2.0 (frozen) system. I've been able to compile it, but when I try to use the module, I get the following error: Traceback (innermost last): File examples/tstsimple.py, line 3, in ? from ppgplot import * ImportError: /home/miller/lib/python/ppgplot.so: undefined symbol: G77_getenv_0 Has anyone managed to get ppgplot running on a 2.0 system? Anyone have ideas on where G77_getenv_0 is? Regards, Mike -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian 1.2 CD?
I'm looking for a Debian 1.2 cd. Does anyone know where I might find one? Regards, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PINE Debian Package
Michael == Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My advice would be for the maintainer of the pine package, (or whoever it was George is accusing of changing the interpretation of the copyright) to answer George's question about why it was done That was done some time ago - see Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to this list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PINE Debian Package
George == George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, I think someone is taking the politics of free software to an extreme. It looks like someone in Debian decided that their patches to configure it resulted in a derivative work and since pine does not allow derivative works to be called pine, it looks like it got yanked. What about the pine package that /is/ in non-free? It apparently has not been yanked - only moved to non-free, which seems a reasonable place for non-free software. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pcmcia install help
Michael == Michael Stutz stutz@dsl.org writes: I'm ready to conclude that you cannot install Debian on a laptop that uses a pcmcia modem as its primary interface to the world. I would really love it if somebody proved me wrong. Well, it is certainly possible to do the installation with pcmcia devices. I've done it with an ethernet card, and hope that the process would be about the same with a modem. Here's how I installed the pcmcia packages... First, I installed base system with floppies. Then I copied the pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules packages from the debian archive to a different linux machine and put them on a floppy. Since you've got a cd, you might not need to do that. On the other hand, since you've had problems with pcmcia-cs_2.9.6-2.deb and the pcmcia-modules packages on your cd, I suggest you get the current versions from the stable directory at your-favorite-debian-ftp-site. The versions that are there now are pcmcia-cs_2.9.6-3.deb, pcmcia-modules-2.0.29-7 and pcmcia-modules-2.0.30-7. There is also the question of whether or not it will work on this kernel, which is 2.0.32. So I went to www.debian.org and downloaded pcmcia-modules-2.0.32_3.0.0-5k5.deb. How did you get a 2.0.32 kernel while installing Debian 1.3.1? If you are installing Debian 1.3.1, I think you will save a lot of effort by using either of the kernel-images available for 1.3.1 (kernel-image-2.0.29 or kernel-image-2.0.30). You are very likely to have problems using modules compiled for a kernel version different than the one you are running. Once you have an installed system, it is relatively simple to change to a different kernel version. You will have to change you pcmcia modules at the same time. Once I had the pcmcia packages, I installed them with dpkg: dpkg --install pcmcia-csversion.deb dpkg --install pcmcia-modulesversion.deb That's all it took. I hope that using the 2.9.6-3 version of pcmcia-cs solves your troubles. Mike P.S. I'm curious - is this a test to see if you can do this installation with a modem? Or is there some reason that you can't install directly from your cd? If you have a pcmcia scsi card and a scsi cdrom, that'll certainly be quicker than down loading everything via modem. If you have a built-in cdrom, you may be able to access it directly. -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: Suport for IR?
There is the Linux/IR project [1]. I've never looked into it though. I've got an IrDA port on my laptop, but don't have anything to talk to with it. Mike [1] URL:http://www.cs.uit.no/~dagb/irda/irda.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
r3chard == r3chard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is Gnus able to use the References: line in mail messages to thread? Yes, Gnus uses the Reference: header(s) to build threads. If references aren't available, it does what it can using Subject: headers. It can also use fuzzy matching of subjects - sort of a noise filter to make guesses about what might be related to what. With no customization to threading, Gnus 5.5 made this thread look like this: A [ 22: Ray Schultz ] Threading list subjects? 34: Nathan E Norman 23: Nathan C. Burnett 22: Marco Anglesio 26: Ionut Borcoman 10: Mike Miller 20: Christian Weisgerber 37: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still do this with debian-user-digest, splitting the digest and adding a dummy Message-ID and some other fields to keep the news system happy. The debian-user-digest that I get already has Message-ID's. I wonder if not snipping the References line would be useful to anybody else? I think that would be handy. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
With either emacs or xemacs, Gnus can be completely mouse driven. xemacs is likely to satisfy even the most pointy-and-clicky folks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux freeform text database
I've used a thing called grok some, but not extensively. It may be just what you are looking for. From the help intro: Grok is a program to present unstructured data in a row/column format using an index card paradigm. Each database row (line) is a card; each database column (field) is an item in the card. Items can be presented in the card as various types and shapes. The presentation of a database is determined by a form. The forms can be easily edited with a graphic layout tool. It comes with a couple of examples. It runs well under linux and other unix systems, which is a big plus for me. There is not currently a debian grok package, but there are linux binaries available. There's info at URL:http://www.in-berlin.de/User/bitrot/grok.html. Regards, Mike -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Threading list subjects?
I use Gnus - a powerful, customizable news- and mail-reading part of emacs (and xemacs). It will thread, score, sort and do just about anything you want to your mail. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On Debian, currently.
James == James D Freels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (1) The stable version is stable (really runs for days, months, years, etc.). The MTBF becomes tied to hardware failures (hard drives being the most vulnerable) not software. Absolutely. We've run a data acquisition and control system using a Debian 1.2 machine. Since the project started about 15 months ago, typical uptimes have been 50-60 days with reboots due to hardware adjustments or our own mistakes in daq, along with the occasional longterm power failure. Never had the Debian end of the software crash. Mike -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
python import question: /lib/libm.so.5: undefined symbol: __getfpucw
I recently moved a machine from 1.3 to unstable and am now getting lib errors when I try to import a python module. The module (dislin) is one I've installed myself, as is the python version (1.5). Before the move to libc6, this worked fine. After the move I recompiled python and now find that importing dislin gives me this error: --- Python 1.5 (#11, Feb 26 1998, 15:46:35) [GCC 2.7.2.3] on linux2 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam import dislin Traceback (innermost last): File stdin, line 1, in ? ImportError: /lib/libm.so.5: undefined symbol: __getfpucw --- I don't know how to track down this problem though. Does anyone know if this is a problem in my libm.so.5 (part of the oldlibs/libc5 package)? Or is it likely that I'll have to come up with a libc6 version of the dislin library? A related question - how does one list the symbols in a shared library? Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
auctex failing on hamm system
I've found that auctex cannot find default tex formats on my recently upgraded hamm system. I do not yet know if this is a problem with emacs, xemacs, auctex, or the tetex packages. Has anyone else seen this behavior? To sort this out, I'm installing my own emacs from scratch at the moment. Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
troubles with pcmcia-modules-2.0.32_3.0.0-1k5
I recently built a kernel using kernel-source-2.0.32 from hamm. Since this replaced my older 2.0.29 kernel, I installed the newer pcmcia-cs_3.0.0-1 and pcmcia-modules-2.0.32_3.0.0-1k5. Now when PCMCIA services start at boot time, I get the following messages: --- Starting PCMCIA services: modules/lib/modules/2.0.32/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: unresolved symbol apm_unregister_callback_Rb7166c6e /lib/modules/2.0.32/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: unresolved symbol apm_unregister_callback_R4e72ac41 /lib/modules/2.0.32/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol unregister_ss_entry /lib/modules/2.0.32/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol register_ss_entry /lib/modules/2.0.32/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol CardServices /lib/modules/2.0.32/pcmcia/ds.o: unresolved symbol CardServices --- Some of this may be because I have not enabled apm in my kernel (I have an old, non-standard BIOS and cannot use apm), so I tried to `make-kpkg modules_image' my own modules after installing the pcmcia-source_3.0.0-1 package. This fails with the messages: --- chmod -R g-ws debian/src chmod: debian/src: No such file or directory --- Any ideas on what might be happening here? Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
looking for hamm/binary-all/oldlibs
The oldlibs directory at several Debian ftp mirrors is empty? Anyone know where they went? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bullshit--Fired for Linux?
URL:http://www.80s.com/cgi-bin/valley.cgi?url=http://www.zdnet.com/ anchordesk/story/story_1774.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian on laptops; recommended?
Anselm == Anselm Lingnau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The current boot disks won't allow you to install over PCMCIA ethernet or off a PCMCIA SCSI bus, AFAIK, but this seems to be worked on. I've done several installations on laptops with a PCMCIA ethernet card. If you copy the pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules packages to the laptop (with a floppy), you can install them with dpkg and do the rest with dselect and ftp. Should work for a pcmcia scsi adapter as well. Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xdm startup?
Martin == Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most likely you told dpkg to keep your old /etc/init.d/xdm file, which was a dummy script. So that dummy script is part of the base installation? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xdm startup?
I've recently reinstalled Debian 1.3 (on a system with a new disk) and found that after installing xbase and xserver-svga, xdm wouldn't start. After looking about a bit, I found that /etc/init.d/xdm was empty and that the start up script was in /etc/init.d/xdm.dpkg-dist. Can anyone help me sort out where I went wrong? Or is this a feature that I don't understand? Regards, Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Netscape installation info [Re: Whiney little request]
Anthony == Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, since the topic *is* ``Whiney little request'' and wrappers such as this seem the most likely way to integrate commercial software into Debian, is it worth considering a way of specifying how to get needed non-deb files? Something like: Required-nd: netscape.tar.gz Source: netscape.tar.gz ftp://ftp.netscape.com/wherever/netscape.tar.gz would be substantially more intuitive and convenient for the beginner (perhaps the SEUL people would like to think about this?) at the very least. The description of netscape3 in the Packages file does state how and where to get the netscape tar file, but the description for netscape4 doesn't. From netscape3: Netscape Communications Corporation does not allow redistribution of their software. Therefore, this package requires the user to fetch the netscape archive separately and place it in the directory pointed to by the TMPDIR environment variable (or /tmp if TMPDIR not defined) before attempting to install this package. You can get the linux packages via anonymous ftp from archive.netscape.com as: ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/ netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Networking loading on boot before PCMCIA services for network card
Asher == Asher Haig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a problem when my system boots where networking loads before the PCMCIA services that are needed to drive the network card. As a result, I have to run /etc/init.d/network whenever I boot before networking will work. Anyone have any idea why this might happen? The proper rc.* files are all there, as far as I can tell It is simplest not to use /etc/init.d/network with a PCMCIA network card. I suggest that you put your network details in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts and that you trim them from /etc/init.d/network. Then your network will not start until you insert your network card. You might want to leave the loopback in /etc/init.d/network - like this: ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 route add -net 127.0.0.0 For details on how to setup /etc/pcmcia/network.opts, see the PCMCIA faq. If you use your system on multiple networks, you can specify different schemes which make switching among them very simple. Regards, Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: pcmcia install
jan == Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now i wanted to install it on my notebook at home; the easiest way would be via my pcmcia network card and nfs; or otherwise via zip drive. But i guess debian doesn't do either (i guess i could try to install debian base from floppies --- duh), while redhat easily supports pcmcia stuff. This is not at all true. Debian supports ftp and nfs installation methods and easily supports pcmcia stuff I've installed it on several laptops and found it quite easy to install via pcmcia ethernet card. I suggest going about it this way: - install the base system from the floppy images - copy (with another handy floppy) the pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules packages to your laptop - Install them with `dpkg --install pcmcia-cs_version.deb' and `dpkg --install pcmcia-modules_version.deb' - edit /etc/pcmcia/network.opts to match your network configuration. - use dselect to finish the installation, either using an nfs mounted volume of ftp. Regards, Mike -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
fsck general protection and core dumps after ftp does
I've been trying to install hamm on a new disk, but I have twice now had disk problems, or maybe network problems. The installation went well in both cases. After a couple of days, ftp crashed and dumped core, apparently leaving me with a partition that causes fsck to core dump when it checks at boot time. This has happened twice, with a repartitioning, re-mke2fs-ing and re-installing in between. Can anyone help me figure out what's going on here? Mike P.S. This is what fsck tells me # fsck /dev/hda5 e2fsck 1.10m 24-Apr-1997 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 /dev/hda5 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks and sizes general protection: [...] This is what ended up in my /var/log/kern.log: general protection: CPU:0 EIP:0010:[get_hash_table+48/180] EFLAGS: 00010286 eax: ebx: 0305 ecx: 0305 edx: 3f0d esi: befa edi: 0305 ebp: bdff esp: 01e29cc8 ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018 Process fsck.ext2 (pid: 29, process nr: 8, stackpage=01e29000) Stack: 0001 01e20305 0400 01e29d04 001247ed 0305 bdff 0400 be00 01e29f74 0001 01db8b6c 01db8b6c 00129439 0305 bdff 0400 00010a80 0400 000126c8 0007d020 Call Trace: [getblk+49/1112] [block_read+957/1596] [timer_bh+184/328] [timer_bh+240/328] [make_request+1006/1020] [ll_rw_block+348/460] [unlock_buffer+23/316] [merge_segments+1140/1220] [timer_bh+184/328] [timer_bh+240/328] [do_bottom_half+59/96] [handle_bottom_half+11/24] [do_no_page+436/776] [do_no_page+382/776] [do_no_page+0/776] [sys_read+136/176] [02f7fc00] [system_call+85/124] [02f7fc00] Code: 39 28 75 28 66 39 58 04 75 22 8b 4c 24 20 39 48 20 74 22 57 general protection: CPU:0 EIP:0010:[get_hash_table+48/180] EFLAGS: 00010286 eax: ebx: 0305 ecx: 0305 edx: 3f0d esi: befa edi: 0305 ebp: bdff esp: 01b3ccc8 ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018 Process e2fsck (pid: 35, process nr: 8, stackpage=01b3c000) Stack: 0001 01b30305 0400 006c 001247ed 0305 bdff 0400 be00 01b3cf74 0001 01db8b6c 01db8b6c 00129439 0305 bdff 0400 00010780 0400 000126c8 0007d020 Call Trace: [getblk+49/1112] [block_read+957/1596] [inode_getblk+67/404] [getblk+49/1112] [inode_getblk+67/404] [ext2_getblk+183/528] [clear_selection+13/72] [merge_segments+1140/1220] [tty_default_put_char+30/40] [opost+440/456] [do_no_page+436/776] [do_no_page+382/776] [do_no_page+0/776] [timer_bh+240/328] [sys_read+136/176] [02f7fc00] [system_call+85/124] [02f7fc00] Code: 39 28 75 28 66 39 58 04 75 22 8b 4c 24 20 39 48 20 74 22 57 general protection: CPU:0 EIP:0010:[get_hash_table+48/180] EFLAGS: 00010286 eax: ebx: 0305 ecx: 0305 edx: 3f0d esi: befa edi: 0305 ebp: bdff esp: 01b45cc8 ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018 Process fsck.ext2 (pid: 37, process nr: 9, stackpage=01b45000) Stack: 0001 01b40305 0400 00ec 001247ed 0305 bdff 0400 be00 01b45f74 0001 01db8b6c 01db8b6c 00129439 0305 bdff 0400 00010380 0400 000126c8 0007d020 Call Trace: [getblk+49/1112] [block_read+957/1596] [inode_getblk+67/404] [ide_do_request+1194/1664] [clear_selection+13/72] [merge_segments+1140/1220] [timer_bh+184/328] [timer_bh+240/328] [do_bottom_half+59/96] [handle_bottom_half+11/24] [do_no_page+436/776] [do_no_page+382/776] [do_no_page+0/776] [timer_bh+240/328] [sys_read+136/176] [02f7fc00] [system_call+85/124] [02f7fc00] Code: 39 28 75 28 66 39 58 04 75 22 8b 4c 24 20 39 48 20 74 22 57 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list
marcus == Marcus Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Hmmm, my MUA /does/ understand MIME. Maybe your's just doesn't know that. May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in sending messages to the list? I suggest you sort on X-Mailing-List: rather than To: -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Thanks for the help with compiling a new kernel... BUT!
You might have better success it you make your modules using make-kpkg rather than make-ing in the source directory. Try executing `make-kpkg --targets' to get a list of targets (which includes modules). Caveat - I haven't made modules with make-kpkg myself, so I don't know what pitfalls might await you along the way... I'm thinking of starting a Debian custom kernel faq that would address issues such as Ignus' questions and my own experience with pcmcia and the kernel. Any one interested in contributing? Regards, Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Installing a kernel [was Re: Newbie here- please don't flame me!]
I'd like to take Ignus' message as an opportunity to offer what I think is an important caveat about Debian and custom kernels. There have been several good responses about how to install a kernel and where to get information. However, I'd like to point out that it is rather important to follow the Debian instructions in the kernel source package (and also the PCMCIA source package). To make a kernel, you need a kernel-source package *and* the kernel-package, which includes make-kpkg. If you try to use the kernel-source package and the Linux kernel HOWTO instructions, it'll be a bit more complicated that using make-kpkg. This may border on the obvious (but there was a time when it confused me pretty well :-). Hopefully this won't simply add to anyone's confusion... Regards, Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PCMCIA/kernel problems [scheme]
brian == Brian Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Miller) writes: Here's a related question - where is the SCHEME variable set in a Debian 1.3 system? The pcmcia docs state that the default value is `default', but on my system, the default value seems to be `'. The current PCMCIA scheme is stored in /var/run/pcmcia-scheme. If this file is empty, then the scheme is default. To see the current scheme, use cardctl scheme Cardctl works fine for me, but my question was about how the SCHEME variable gets set. When I insert my network card and watch some diagnostic messages (echo $SCHEME) that I've inserted in network.opts and network, I find that the default value of SCHEME is a null value, not `default'. What part of the pcmcia package checks /var/run/pcmcia-scheme and sets SCHEME? That part doesn't seem to be working for me. To fix it, I added checking of /var/run/pcmcia-scheme to /etc/pcmcia/network. Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PCMCIA/kernel problems
After making a new kernel (using make-kpkg and so on, as specified in /usr/doc/kernel-source-version/debian.README), you will have to make a new set of pcmcia modules. Instructions are in /usr/doc/pcmcia-source/README. If you make both the kernel and the pcmcia modules according to the Debian documentation (which is somewhat different than what you'll find in the kernel and pcmcia HOWTO's), then the new modules should work fine. Here's a related question - where is the SCHEME variable set in a Debian 1.3 system? The pcmcia docs state that the default value is `default', but on my system, the default value seems to be `'. Mike -- Michael A. Miller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
enlightenment window manager?
Anybody managed to get enlightenment to run under Debian 1.3? Any hints? Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian 1.2 archive?
Is Debian 1.2 available by ftp anywhere? Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Laptop for Linux Debian
dale == Dale Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If one were to buy a laptop these days what would be a good brand that is widely supported by Linux (Debian)? As someone else mentioned, I had to install off of CD in order to get PCMCIA support, to get network support. But the CD only cost $10, or whatever, so it's not too big of a deal in my mind. On the other hand, a cdrom on a laptop costs a lot more than $10. I've installed Debian 1.3 on my laptop using pcmcia and ftp (via ethernet) with no problems. You'll need to install the pcmcia package(s) before you can do that. This was simple to do with a floppy - not much different than the base floppy install. I have some notes detailing the installation on a laptop at URL:http://www.npl.uiuc.edu/~miller/linux/debain-notes.html. They deal with Debian 1.2, but I have Debian 1.3 laptop installation notes that I keep meaning to type up. I'll do that rsn. Mike -- Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Can't delete a file
I have a file on my machine that I created that begins with a hyphen. How can I delete it. rm -test says can't delete est using option -t (or whatever). How do I tell it not to use the hyphen as a switch? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X on a CL 5428 chipset
Has anyone gotten X working using on a Cirrus Logic 5428 Video card/chip. When trying to run it, it crashed my machine, no matter what resolution, RAMDAC setting, nothing helped. Any info would be greatly appreciated. TIA , , ,',' ; ; `.`. A)bort, R)etry, I)nfluence with hammer.) ; G-d is real, unless declared integer. ,,,-',' _---'',,,-' ___,,--'_--'' __,,--'__,,--' ,-_,,--'#define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) ; ,' .,--,___ ; ; / ; If at `---.._ `.``-.._,/ My; first you don't ``. ``--...___/--; you don't succeed,\ ```; Quotes ; call it version 1.0. ;; ;;If it still doesn't / ; ;;___ work, call it Win95 ; ;; ;-,___`--..._ ,' ; ; ; ``---...__-...,-' ,' ; ; Mike Miller `-,-' / `-._ _---_ ,' `--'``--..,,' `---' Virtual means never knowing where your next byte is coming from. f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng. Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Does Linux use BIOS parameters for disk?
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 1997 at 11:03:10AM -0400, Mike Miller wrote: On my machine at home I'm running a 486sx33 IBM PS/1 with an old BIOS. For dos, I installed the western digital overlay that allows access, but in Linux, it ran perfect w/o it. According to WD, however, if you ask them, Linux is broken because it doesn't use the BIOS. Yeah, and Win95 is fixed. That'll be the day. There's a largedisk howto (or maybe it's a mini-howto). Check it out, I found it to be very helpful. Good luck. Fortunately, if you do need Disk Manager anyway (due to booting to DOS etc), Linux is fine with it. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 51% Your train has been cancelled due to defective government at Spring Street.. True. For that matter, it does recongnize the drive as having a 63 offset to allow for DM -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X on a CL 5428 chipset
Kevin J Poorman wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:19:24 -0400 Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone gotten X working using on a Cirrus Logic 5428 Video card/chip. When trying to run it, it crashed my machine, no matter what resolution, RAMDAC setting, nothing helped. Any info would be greatly appreciated. TIA I had it working ... still have the config file around hint ... make sure there is a line that turns off linear addressing Could you send that file to me via private email? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Does Linux use BIOS parameters for disk?
Chris Brown wrote: I have several old 386 machines around that would be nice for different tasks. These machines have older BIOSs in them that can't deal with larger IDE drives. My experience with DOS is that you need to fdisk and format the drive on a machine that properly supports the particular disk but once that is done DOS is happy to ignore the BIOS. Is this the case with Linux? Is it necessary to pass the disk parameters to the kernel at boot time? * Chris Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] !!! HELP FIGHT SPAM !!! On my machine at home I'm running a 486sx33 IBM PS/1 with an old BIOS. For dos, I installed the western digital overlay that allows access, but in Linux, it ran perfect w/o it. According to WD, however, if you ask them, Linux is broken because it doesn't use the BIOS. Yeah, and Win95 is fixed. That'll be the day. There's a largedisk howto (or maybe it's a mini-howto). Check it out, I found it to be very helpful. Good luck. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list
brandon == Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If people who read debian-{novice,help,install,newbie} set
up a procmail filter that removes cross postings, and this
is made known, [...]
^^
This sounds like a good idea here. What if a Debian package were
available that set up a filter for the mailing lists so that
sorting would be easier for new users? This would require
someone to be trusted not to editorialize too much in the filter,
but perhaps it could be done.
Another idea/question - can a filter explode messages from
debian-user-digest?
Mike
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Re: just how bad is Fortran?
rick == Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I'm familiar with Fortran, C, C++, etc., and the coding for fortran is far more efficient for what i'm doing: it comes down to applying functions to arrays. I also may have the world's only project that really calls for an Object Fortran :) There is an article that you may find interesting on the relative merits of Fortran, C, C++, and Python at URL:http://studbolt.physast.uga.edu/templon/fortran/fort-alternative.html. Although I haven't done any large-scale coding in python, it is object-oriented and has more or less replaced Fortran for much of my small-scale numerical work. Jeff Templon has also collected some information about using Fortran codes under Linux at URL:http://studbolt.physast.uga.edu/templon/fortran.html. The question is really whether the fortran tools available are good enough for real work. There is a good amount of real work being done with Fortran under Linux. The Hermes collaboration is doing a lot of serious number crunching with Fortran ported to a Linux farm. Wolfgang Wander's f77 Problem Page at URL:http://www-hermes.desy.de/ww/f77prob.html discusses some ways to avoid certain pitfalls that he and Hermes came across. The f77reorder script mentioned earlier in this thread is discussed there. There are also a number of web sites that have information in the general category of Linux in science. Many of them include discussions of porting Fortran codes to Linux. I have a few links in that category collected at URL:http://www.npl.uiuc.edu/~miller/linux. Regards, Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: seyon
ralph == Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I also tried man seyon but no man entry was found. Anyone have a clue for me?? Take a look in /usr/doc - there is likely to be a seyon sub-directory there. Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
timezone package: in Indiana, US
Well, it's the time of year for time zone questions. I have a machine in Indiana, US, which has a system clock set to UT. I use xntp to keep it in sync. I look forward to the summer when Illinois and Indiana are on the same time (CDT and EST respectively) because I don't have to remember to add an hour when I go to IU - not that it's that hard, but life is complicated enough. My linux boxes are all using Debian and the timezone package. Timezone allows me to set the zone to US/Eastern, but Indiana isn't really in US/Eastern since they don't use daylight savings time. After EST went to EDT over the weekend, times on the machine in Indiana are 1 hour ahead of the rest of the Hoosiers. I suppose I can fix this by setting TZ=EST5 in the start up scripts. Is there a best place to do this? Or a way to do it more cleanly with the timezone package? I suspect that machines in Arizona have similar problems. Mike -- Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request
troubles with module symbols, PCMCIA (and tar)
I've managed to scramble my modules and am looking for some hints on how to recover. I'm running Debian 1.2 on a portable with a pcmcia ethernet card. Up until a few days ago, I'd been making my own kernel using the kernel HOWTO instructions, rather than the debian scripts. Never wanting to leave well enough alone, I decided to give the debian method a try. After making a kernel package with make-kpkg and installing it, cardmgr would not run because of mismatched module symbols, so I recompiled it using the debian/rules script in the pcmcia-cs package. This still didn't produce modules that were loadable. Going back to the kernel I'd been using before all of this started didn't solve the problem - the modules are now the ones I made and the symbols don't match. Next I tried to back up and compile the old way (as described in the kernel and pcmcia HOWTO's). For the kernel, I did a make config, make dep, make clean, make zdisk, reboot, make modules, make modules_install, reboot. I followed this with a make config. make all, make install for the pcmcia package. Still, I get insmod symbols don't match errors. If all this hadn't broken my network connection (pcmcia ethernet), I'd just reinstall the kernel image and source and the pcmcia packages and try again. With no network, I figured I'd bring the machine upstairs to another linux box we have here and use floppies to transfer the packages over. The kernel image package won't fit on a single floppy, so I used the 'M' option for tar. When trying to read the floppy, tar dumps core. I'm stuck. Any ideas or suggestions? Mike
Re: a question (stupid?)
This is a related comment on X security.
dpk == dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you are trying to run X applications between to machines
you have to set the display and xhost variables.
Not to be overly picky here, but xhost is not exactly a
variable. For details, see the xhost man page or the X
security faq. More importantly, I think it's worth pointing out
that xhost does more than what you pointed out. In particular,
it enables access to the local display for /all/ users on the
remote machine.
[...]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] xhost remote.machine
remote.machine being added to access control list
Then you will be able to run X applications from the remote
^^^ = everybody on remote machine
machine having the display/interface to your X windows
environment.
If you are working with single user machines, this may not be a
problem, but when your work on multi-user systems, you may not
want to open yourself up to this.
A somewhat more secure way of handling display access is to use
xauth. If the display that you want to use has been setup using
xdm, you can get a cookie with the xauth command, i.e.
host xauth list $DISPLAY
host.some.place.blah:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 9087132
The cookie value will vary - normally it's longer. On a remote
host, you can add this cookie (authorization record) to the
authority file on the remote host:
otherhost xauth add host.some.place.blah:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 9087132
This provides access authorization for the remote host to uyse
the display host.some.place.blah:0, but only for the user who has
the correct record in her authorization file.
Regards, Mike
P.S. Suggested readings: xauth, xhost, Xsecurity man pages (I
don't think that the Xsecurity man page is not part of the
standard debian distribution) and the X Security faq available at
an archive near you.
P.P.S. In case you have not logged in using xdm, you can make
your own cookie. Just make sure that it is fairly unique and
private (that is, stored only in your authorization file). I use
the following alias in my .bashrc:
alias bake-cookie=
xauth add ${HOST}:0 . `date +%y%m%d%H%M%S``date +%y%m%d%H%M%S`
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Troubles with blt debian package
I'd been using BLT for a while when I noticed that there was a debian blt package. So, I installed it only to find that it does not include a blt_wish binary. In addition, in interacts badly with my earlier installed blt_wish, resulting in core dumps. After purging the debian package, I'm back to my old installation. Has anybody used debianized blt successfully and if so, can you tell me how to access it from tcl scripts? I am a tcl novice - is there something I should know about to access the blt library from scripts? Or should I report the lack of a blt_wish as a feature request? Mike
Re: 'at' command
Thanks to those that replied with a working answer. bash$ at 10:30 enter cdplay enter C-d (I did at least know this much). I was disappointed by the flood of RTFM, however. I couldn't find an example in the man pages, or Running Linux, or Unix in a Nutshell, where the command actually did anything. Just something like 'at now + 5 minute' without anything below. I shouldn't be surprised, but I thought a debian list would be different. I'll return to lurk mode. Mike. hmm does Red Hat have a mailing list or newsgroup? On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Mike Miller wrote: I'm sure this is trivial, but can someone give me an example of an at command that works? I tried at 10:30 cdplay It queued, and left the queue, but did not play. Thinking it was a path problem, I tried at 10:30 /usr/bin/cdplay and got backat: incomplete time Thanks, Mike. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'at' command/ Apology
First an apology. Some of us, at least myself, don't like to be confronted with our stupidity. Why I choose to advertize it, then, is another question. On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Siggy Brentrup wrote: I apologize if you took my citing of the man page as RTFM. Please attribute it to my poor English. No, your reply was my first, and answered my question directly. Thank you. I have also recieved some very helpful, more lengthy responses. hmm does Red Hat have a mailing list or newsgroup? I think so, but why are you asking - some sort of (not so) subtle threat? That doesn't look like good style either. -- Siggy Agreed. I regret saying it. It would be my loss. Mike. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can any one recommend a mailreader...
walter == Walter Tautz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: other than pine. I would like a simple curses based reader I use Gnus, which these days comes with emacs. It (emacs) runs on almost any terminal or in a window - does that satisfy your curses needs?. A word of caution - if you are not an emacs fan, Gnus may not be for you - on the other hand, it may make you an emacs fan. that easily allows one to configure the mail to read automatically into separate folders depending on the address it came from, It allows your to split mail automatically into folders according to regular expressions. allows filename completion when reading files in or when going to different folders,etc. Gnus uses the usual emacs expansion so that's no problem. Preferably any configuration should be built into the interface itself, i.e. it would be nice to avoid editing a configuration file directly. -Walter Some configuration is available by using the cleverly named configure command. I edit my mail splitting by hand, but since gnus runs as part of emacs, which is originally an editor, editing is a pretty straight forward. The system I intend to run it on is the university system running slackware. Should be able to run emacs on that. There is a Gnus faq posted regularly to gnu.emacs.gnus that can get you started if you are interested. Mike -- Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setserial program
chris == Chris R Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is the setserial program contained in any of the Debian packages, or will I have to install it seperately? I didn't do anything special, and it is here on my Debian 1.1 system. I don't know which package it is a part of off hand, but I just used it to set the port for my modem and now I'm up and running and reading your email... Mike -- Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key at URL:http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/miller5
X11 fonts missing from distribution?
I've installed X11, but I find that I cannot run applications that need courier and helvetica fonts. I've looked in the X11 and Debian faqs and readmes, but I haven't been able to find any info on where to get fonts and how to install them. Can anyone help me out? Regards, Mike -- Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key at URL:http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/miller5
Re: dselect/dpkg problem: install/remove
bruce == Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] It's not likely that dpkg/dselect put the system in this state on its own. Things that wedge the system and then make e2fsck not run generally have to do with the shared library files containing corrupt data. This could be a problem with the data on the disk, or bad RAM. Probably a re-install would be a good idea at this point, since the data on the disk is suspect. I agree with that - the next morning e2fsck was able to fix the problem with no trouble! Sounds like hardware to me. Now all I have to do is track down the problem. [...] People get upset when I point at hardware, because of course Windows 95 runs fine... Of course, the first thing I did when I got my machine was delete all that windows 95 stuff. Keeps life simple.
Re: dselect/dpkg problem: install/remove
john == John Houwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to have a similar problem with dselect/dpkg, but not with the dpkg-ftp option (haven't gotten that far yet) The dselect package has given me problems from the first. I made a few errors in my 1st attempt at the CDRom install, but managed to get most of the selected packages unpacked installed. Where dselect hung was on the kernel-source/kernel-headers packages. (where is local/binary ??) [snip] This sounds like the problem that I'm having. I installed debian on a new system and all went well until I tried to use dselect to install the kernel-source package. While doing that, dpkg crashed with a segmentation fault. So I tried to use dselect to purge the kernel-source package and again dpkg crashed, this time leaving me with a hung system. All I could do was power cycle my machine since the keyboard was apparently frozen and I could not log in on any other consoles. This left me with a bad disk which I cannot fix because now e2fsck crashes with a segmentation fault. It looks like I'm going to have to reformat my hard disk and reinstall from scratch. :( I don't have any answers for you, but you are not alone. I'm tempted to try a different distribution in hopes of getting a stable system. I'll let you know if I come up with any solutions. Mike -- Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key at URL:http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/miller5
Re: printing and .profile problems
Chris, I had the same problem with my profile. My work around was editing (creating?) the .bash_profile file. At least I think that's it, I'm at school now. It's just like .profile , but renamed to confuse us ! Good luck. Mike. On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, chris beamis wrote: 2. another problem, which I didn't have under Slackware, is using a .profile in the user's home area. I have just one line in it, alias 'lo'=exit which has always worked before but the lo commanded doesn't get recognized. I also tried renaming the file to .login but still no luck. Any ideas? Leszek, Sorry, I should have mentioned that it is the same .profile which I've always used successfully with Slackware releases. I was going from memory which is the only reason I got the quotes wrong. There is something else going on causing bash or something to ignore my .profile. Thanks anyway. Chris Beamis
