w output all screwed up
Hi, this is on slink: (M-x auto-fill-mode) aseq:/usr/local# w 1:13am up 3 days, 22:27, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT ttyp0dak..ca 11:15pm 13:45 0.33s 0.24s tcsh ttyp1palpatine.xx 6:58pm 2:09m 0.55s 0.52s tcsh ttyp2obiwan.. 3:00pm 1:33m 11:15? - ttyp3tk421..c 11:27pm 0.00s 0.30s 0.03s w Why does the output screw up like this? In particular, why are the tcsh's so out of wack? This is the same on the less cluttered w -s. Please [g]cc: me. Thanks, Navin. PS Why was the default output of w changed? Wasn't w -s the default output before? -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
Emacs on non-X machine
Montreal Wed Apr 14 14:26:23 1999 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can't install Emacs on a Debian system without first install X?! That's quite a showstopper. Is it a bug? -N. [Cc's are always appreciated] -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
Re: Emacs on non-X machine
Montreal Wed Apr 14 15:10:50 1999 Small, Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be running n mine and I don't have X working yet. It is just text mode Emacs, but then again, it isn't much uglier than the graphics mode one I have running on my NT box Didn't you have to install xlib and xfree86-common? -N. -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
Re: Emacs on non-X machine
Montreal Wed Apr 14 15:36:19 1999 Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Navindra Umanee wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can't install Emacs on a Debian system without first install X?! That's quite a showstopper. Is it a bug? Install emacs 20, not 19...version 19 does seem to depend on xlib6g. That doesn't make sense if you ask me. Maybe it should suggest it or something, because it is compiled with X support, but it's definitely not required. The depends list for emacs20 doesn't mention anything about X: Depends: emacsen-common, liblockfile0, libc6, liblockfile0 (= 0.1-1), libncurse Hmmm, according to http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/editors/emacs20.html emacs20 does depend on xlib which depends on xfree86-common. -N. -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
Re: Emacs on non-X machine
Montreal Wed Apr 14 15:44:38 1999 Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Navindra Umanee wrote: Hmmm, according to http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/editors/emacs20.html emacs20 does depend on xlib which depends on xfree86-common. According to dselect it doesn't. The Depends line I showed you was copied directly from it. Make sure that your dselect is wide enough. ;-) -N. -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
Re: LyX 1.0 for slink?
Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when building. It thinks it needs root to set the ownership of files to root (among other things), but in actual fact dpkg will do the right thing Ahh, that actually makes sense. What package building does is very much like installing using a tool like stow - you build the package, and then install it into its own directory tree. This usually uses whatever procedures the package uses, so a lot of times install is involved. After this the appropriate wands are waved to pull everything into .debs and source package. I've heard of stow not too familiar with how it works though. Thanks for the info. information isn't pushed at users. This is a real pity. I've known at least a couple of Debian users who've struggled to build .debs from source packages or who've wanted to roll their own .deb so that the system could keep track of the files ultimately they give up in disgust... There is certainly no FAQ I could find dealing with this. Personally I always found dpkg easier than RPM for building packages, but perhaps it's just me. IIRC all it took to build SRPMS is one single rpm command. I know, but I never felt like I was in control. It also seemed very I guess if you wanted that control then you'd have to edit the SRPM (SPEC file, I believe). attached to using /usr/src and leaving files around there. Ugh, typical Red Hat. -N. -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
Re: LyX 1.0 for slink?
Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dpkg-source -x (or unpack yourself). Then cd into the top directory of the package and say dpkg-buildpackage. Specifying -b will stop a source package being generated, which will speed things up a bit. -us and -uc disable signing of the .dsc and .changes respectively. You know, I tried almost exactly this but bailed when one of the commands wanted root priviledges and then started doing some unexpected /usr/bin/install's (which failed because my /usr/bin/install is atypical). I mean, all I wanted was to build a package to generate a .deb not *install* it or do *anything* that would require root privileges. I'll give the other poster's make suggestion a shot. Personally I always found dpkg easier than RPM for building packages, but perhaps it's just me. IIRC all it took to build SRPMS is one single rpm command. -N. -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
(fwd) Re: silly sound-module question
Kurt Stallknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I compiled sound as a module and it works fine, but in which file do I have to put the insmod sound so that the module is loaded at boot-time? Can anybody help? Last I checked all you had to do was put the module name (eg, sound) in /etc/modules. Debian has been fooling around with module configs though so this *might* have changed in the version of the distribution you are using. Cheers, Navin. PS I'm sorry if you see this twice. The first time I tried to post it but apparently it failed. -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Montreal Thu Feb 18 07:43:30 1999 MacKenzie, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my understanding that on Debian, the KDEDIR variable does not have to be set. I could be wrong but I think I read that somewhere. I just installed KDE1.1 Debs from KDE.org and unless dpkg modified my .bashrc, the KDEDIR is not set and all works fine. Personally, I recommend that you don't use the .debs because you won't find debs for any of the many other KDE applications available. I think it is better that you keep KDE separate in /opt/kde or /usr/local/kde and use a program such as Smart Install to keep track of KDE packages. You might also steal /etc/menu-methods/kde from the .debs before you get rid of them (and edit it to use a proper directory). -N. -- These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer. [Microsoft website] http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/
list archive
Montreal Thu Feb 18 07:48:14 1999 Is it just me or is the archive for this list dead? -N.
Re: list archive
Montreal Thu Feb 18 08:42:46 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *- On 18 Feb, Navindra Umanee wrote about list archive Montreal Thu Feb 18 07:48:14 1999 Is it just me or is the archive for this list dead? -N. It must be you. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9902/threads.html says: debian-user Feb 99 Messages are listed by thread. The last update was on 19:23 GMT Wed Feb 17. There are 2441 messages. How weird. Mine was saying: Messages are listed by thread. The last update was on 19:23 GMT Mon Feb 15. There are 2147 messages. Now I turned off my proxy. :) Thanks, Navin.
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Montreal Thu Feb 18 17:21:22 1999 George Richard Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Navindra Umanee wrote: Personally, I recommend that you don't use the .debs because you won't find debs for any of the many other KDE applications available. I think it is better that you keep KDE separate in /opt/kde or /usr/local/kde and use a program such as Smart Install to keep track of KDE packages. You might also steal /etc/menu-methods/kde from the .debs before you get rid of them (and edit it to use a proper directory). Could you expand on how to do this? I installed from the same source tarballs as on Suse, and the configure script didn't detect it was being installed on debian. So I have no debian menus in kpanel :-( You probably need a configure option (--debian or --enable-debian or --with-debian?). Dunno. Short of installing binary debs, can I do this? Okay. (1) Copy kdebase/debian/menu-method to /etc/menu-methods/kde (2) Edit it to use the proper directory. Here's mine: --- menu-method Tue Mar 31 07:46:39 1998 +++ /etc/menu-methods/kde Wed Feb 10 05:09:39 1999 @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ endmenu= #submenutitle= rootsection= -rootprefix=/var/spool/kdeapplnk +rootprefix=/opt/kde/share/applnk/Debian userprefix=/Personal/Debian prerun=test -n \prefix()\ rm -rf prefix() /* #treewalk=c() (3) The first time, run update-menus to generate Debian menus for KDE. How do debian users setup local printers? I see no front end like Redhat control panel or YasT. The /etc files are rather intimidating and I can't find the relevant documentation. (I have the Debian 2 official binary CD for 1386) IIRC, I installed magicfilter and followed the instructions (magicfilterconfig). It generated the appropriate entry for /etc/printcap. I may have had to tweak this file manually. Does Debian 2.1 come with a Window Maker deb compiled with --enable-kde? Probably not. Debian is lame. -N.
Re: KDEDIR and Debian packages
Montreal Thu Feb 18 18:30:36 1999 Kirk Hogenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Navindra Umanee wrote: Does Debian 2.1 come with a Window Maker deb compiled with --enable-kde? Probably not. Debian is lame. 2.1, No. That's because the WindowMaker version in 2.1 is 0.20, which didn't yet support KDE. Presumably, the support was added after the 2.1 freeze. But in potato there is: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/wmaker-kde_0.51.0-3.deb I am not sure what else you'll need from unstable. I'm impressed. :) -N.
xterm-debian?
Montreal Tue Feb 16 18:22:18 1999 Does anyone know why the default TERM for xterm under Hamm is xterm-debian? No other remote system has this term type defined and when I ssh from an xterm to such a remote system, I always get errors. (I'm aware of solutions like if TERM == xterm-debian then TERM = xterm) Please CC: me. Thanks, Navin.
gnome binaries
Montreal Tue Feb 9 22:17:18 1999 Why do GNOME binaries go to /usr/bin/ instead of /usr/bin/X11/? Just curious. Thanks, Navin.
[whine] Power down. vs System halted.
Montreal Wed Feb 3 15:37:50 1999 My bo system used to say System halted. everytime I halted the system but since I upgraded to hamm it sez Power down.. Where has this changed? I grepped for Power in /etc/init.d/* and /etc/*/* but couldn't find where to configure this. Please enlighten and Cc: the luser. Thanks, Navin.
Re: [whine] Power down. vs System halted.
Montreal Wed Feb 3 17:18:14 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *- On 3 Feb, John Goerzen wrote about Re: [whine] Power down. vs System halted. On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 02:26:44PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: I belive we now use the POWER_OFF mechanism by default as machines with APM bioses and ATX power supplies actualy do shut off. My Alpha, which has zero APM suport either in the BIOS or in the kernel, also displays that message. Hmm, my P233 still shows 'System halted'. APM in Bios is disabled and no APM in kernel and not ATX power supply. For the record, I have APM disabled and don't have ATX. Thanks all for the help. I now understand the change/difference and I've gathered that removing the -p should revert back to the old situation. -N.
bo - hamm upgrade failure
Montreal Sat Jan 30 10:19:03 1999 Hey, anyone know what's going on here?: [asimov] [/cdrom/debian/main/upgrade-i386] sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...ok E: Internal error, ScoredFix generated breaks. Exit 100 I'm using 0.1.4.bo. Btw, I think it would be a good idea if apt-get supported the --version option. Please CC: me as I'm too lame to subscribe to YA extremely high volume mailing-list. Thanks, Navin. PS The Cheapbytes hamm CD is a broken piece of censored. Even after creating bogus directories to fool the script, [asimov] [/home/navindra/debian/upgrade] sudo ./cd_autoup.sh ldso_1.9.9-1.deb libc5_5.4.38-1.1.deb libc6_2.0.7t-1.deb timezones_2.0.7t-1.deb locales_2.0.7t-1.deb ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2.1.deb ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-8.8.deb libreadline2_2.1-10.1.deb libreadlineg2_2.1-10.1.deb bash_2.01.1-3.1.deb libg++27_2.7.2.1-14.4.deb libg++272_2.7.2.8-0.1.deb libstdc++2.8_*.deb Can't find ../debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/libs/libstdc++2.8_*.deb! aborting upgrade. Exit 100
