Re: PLEASE: standard package README file/orientation

2000-08-19 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
  I heartily agree with Daniel's plea.  Eveb a simple listing of what 
  configuration files the package uses (and where they are), and where it 
  stores data (i.e., does it use space in /var) would be a big help.
 less /var/lib/dpkg/info/package.list
 
 If you really care, write a nice wrapper users can use to read the file.

 Uhm, how about.. ?

dpkg-l()
{
dpkg -L $1
}

 =)
 



Re: WANPIPE X.25

2000-03-15 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 Is there anybody here using the Sangoma WANPIPE cards to do X.25?

 I'm doing exactly that.


New HD, DMA, errors...

1999-10-04 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 Hi! I've bought a new HD and I'm having troubles with it. It's a Seagate
ST310232A (10 Gb).

 Boot:

PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1020-0x1027, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1028-0x102f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: WDC AC26200R, ATA DISK drive
hdb: ATAPI CDROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdc: ST310232A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: WDC AC26200R, 5937MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=756/255/63, UDMA
hdc: ST310232A, 9768MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=19846/16/63, UDMA
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
 hdc: [PTBL] [1245/255/63] hdc1 hdc2 hdc3

 When I use it I get:

# cat /dev/hdc  /dev/null
hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdc: DMA disabled
ide1: reset: success

 Could it be the motherboard (Intel SE440BX-2)? Should I go to the shop and
ask for a refund? Please, if you could help me I would apreciate it...!

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Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-19 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
   Here's a revised version of the script taking into account all comments
   so far.
   I guess Argentina isn't the only country that uses the SQL format. There
  must be some others too. It would be great to find a source for this
  information
 
 Hmm... the question is why we dont simply use locales. Thats the POSIX way
 of describing national support and is supported by Java and Unix. Even NT
 has a centryl place to set up things like date, time and currency.
 
 It has nothing to do with a specific package, it should be asked in the
 libc, like the timezone.

 Well.. the libc maintainers don't want to add the locale for my country for
no reason, even if it is included in the package as source.


Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-19 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
  Well.. the libc maintainers don't want to add the locale for my country for
 no reason, even if it is included in the package as source.
 I use a target in the glibc makefiles to generate the locales, if it 
 doesn't generate the one for your country, there's nothing I can do 
 about it.

 Modify the makefile; report it upstream; compile it from the debian/rules.


Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Style  DateDatetime
---
ISO1999-07-17  1999-07-17 07:09:18+01
SQL17/07/1999  17/07/1999 07:09:19.00 BST
POSTGRES   17-07-1999  Sat 17 Jul 07:09:19 1999 BST
GERMAN 17.07.1999  17.07.1999 07:09:19.00 BST
NONEURO07-17-1999  Sat Jul 17 07:09:19 1999 BST
US 07-17-1999  Sat Jul 17 07:09:19 1999 BST
EURO   17-07-1999  Sat 17 Jul 07:09:19 1999 BST
 
 I propose to include the attached script. If the zone belongs to USA or
 Canada, I use American format; if it belongs to another country I use
 European format; if the country is unidentified I try to guess from
 the zone abbreviation and its offset from UTC.  For zones which aren't based
 on regional names I use ISO.
 
 Are there any other countries besides USA and Canada which use American
 datestyle?  Am I right in thinking that Canada does? 

 Argentina uses dd/mm/yy, not dd-mm-yy.


Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 Here's a revised version of the script taking into account all comments
 so far.

 I guess Argentina isn't the only country that uses the SQL format. There
must be some others too. It would be great to find a source for this
information


Re: cfdisk and multiple active partitions

1998-04-27 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
   Is it legal to have multiple partitions marked as active (at work a machine
  wouldn't boot untill I removed one of those marks)?
   If it isn't, a bug should be filed against cfdisk.
 I don't know if it is legal have multiple partitions marked as active but
 if I understand correctly what is going on, it is certainly not logical.
 The reason for this is that the active partition is the one that its boot
 sector will actualy be used to boot the machine. I might be wrong, though.

 In any case we should prevent users from hitting themselves in their heads,
if we can... =)


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Re: Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! (fwd)

1998-04-21 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 11:33:49AM -0400, James A.Treacy wrote:
 For those few of you who don't read http://slashdot.org, the
 Mining Co has posted their Linux Best of the Net site awards.
 Debian was number 1. I'd never heard of this company before,
 but am not adverse to any good publicity for Debian.
 The awards page is at http://linux.miningco.com/library/awards/blapr98.htm
 
 Three cheers for Debian.

 Are we really that good?? =)


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Re: DPKG question.

1998-04-05 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 Is there a dpkg command to veryify the integrity of a package too make
 sure it downloaded okay? I skimmed through the manpage and documentation, but 
 I
 didn't find anything like that.

 You may use dpkg -c package.deb.


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Re: kbhit() MSDOS equivalent in Linux

1998-03-27 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 Our protocol suport, theorically yet, half duplex and we use the serial
 and parallel ports. Because other caracteristcs, we need something like
 kbhit function defined in conio.h of C for MSDOS. This function is like a
 keypressed and we are looking for something like that because we must
 emulate the following procedure:

 There's some info in Spanish about this at:

   http://www.debian.org/~nick/Linux/Prog/


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Re: Slackware-----Debian

1998-03-04 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 So, when removing Slackware it is not necessary to format the drive?  What
 will happen to slackware?  Will it just be replaced by Debian?  Or will it
 just install side-by-side to Slackware.

 What you can do is this:

  1) Move every binary you think you should need from /usr/bin,/bin to
/usr/local/bin (and libs, etc.). Then remove everything in usr (outside of
/usr/local, of course).
 2) Start the install process. When you have the target partition mounted,
ask for a shell and remove /etc, /lib, /bin, /sbin, /var and /boot.
 3) Install Debian.


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Re: multiple fs types for user floppy access?

1998-01-09 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 02:38:52PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I currently have my floppy set up so that users can mount ms floppies with 
 the 
 line
 
 /dev/fd0/floppy msdos   user,rw 0   0
 
 in /etc/fstab
 
 I tried changing msdos to auto, but no dice.  Is there a change so that 
 it 
 can automount both msdos and ext2 disks?

 What about having several mount points?

/dev/fd0/floppy/fat msdos   user,rw 0   0
/dev/fd0/floppy/ext2ext2user,rw 0   0
[etc...]


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Re: works under Red Hat, not Debian

1998-01-08 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 #include unistd.h
 
 main()
 {
   execl(/home/Gandalf/octave_test.mex,
 (void *) 0);
 }

 Bad code. First argument should always be program name:

   execl(/home/Gandalf/octave_test.mex,octave_test.mex,
 (void *) 0);


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Re: In the interests of standardation ...

1997-12-29 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
  I sangged the below from the Caldera mailing list. It describes a method
  that Red Hat has come up with so that packages can add themselves to the
  menus of different window managers when the package is installed. It is
  GPLed and looks like a good idea.
 Debian already has the excellent menu package, that does just this. It's
 been around for over a year now, and about 275 packages in unstable
 currently use it.

 And surely the RH solution works only with X programs..!


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Re: Simple Unix utility?

1997-12-06 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 Now I notice that cut seems to buffer everything up.

 You should file a bug against cut, it should do line buffering when output
is a tty.


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Re: FileSystem Sizes

1997-11-27 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 If I remember (off the top) correctly, lseek() is/was the limiting factor on
 filesystem sizes...  At one time, this was 32bit, so max addressable
 filesystem size was 2GB.
 
 Has this changed?  i.e. what is the max ext2 filesystem size?

 It changed a long time ago. I used a 9 Gb partition without problems more
than a year ago.


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Re: mtools

1997-11-27 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
   You can pipe the file through tr -d '\r'. Ignore the other message
   about mcopy. This is restrictive since it *assumes* that the file
   is on a floppy disk (or other FAT volume).
 
   A much bigger problem of mtools is that when copying *to* an MS-DOS
 file system, it writes long filename entries to the directory.
 Apparently it assumes that everyone using DOS filesystems is using
 Windows '95.  This is not just the default; you can't turn it off (at
 least, I found no way to do so - if anyone knows how please let me
 know).

 It does that only when the file is not acceptable to normal FAT. So if you
don't like the so called `VFAT' don't use those names, that would fail in
normal FAT anyway.
 Still, if you aren't happy you can wrap mcopy into a script that check its
arguments to be traditional 8.3 filenames.


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Re: Commands Manual

1997-11-24 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 I think his needs are far more basic than that. He seems to be wanting a
 list of utility-names, as most first-time Linux users (including me) want. 
 There are not many things more frustrating than thinking I know it can be
 done, but I don't know how and I don't even know with what utility, so I
 don't know what man page to look at -- if you have already discovered the
 very existance of the 'man' utility.

 You may use apropos. e.g:

newton:~$ apropos gif
giftrans (1) - transform gif from gif87 to gif89, making one color 
transparent
gif2tiff (1) - create a TIFF file from a GIF87 format image file
whirlgif (1) - a quick program that reads a series of GIF files, and 
produces a single gif file composed of those images.
zgv (1)  - view GIF/JPEG/PPM/BMP/TGA/PCX/PNG files on VGA/SVGA 
displays
newton:~$ _


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Re: Sementation fault

1997-11-23 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 All has been going so well in my upgrading to Libc6 but I have just 
 trien to read a man page and I get the message Segmentation fault
 Can anyone give me a clue as to what to llok for.

 There was a bug in the man-db package. It has been fixed. Get the newer
version from one of the ftp archives.

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Re: Commands Manual

1997-11-23 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 I just got finished installing Debian Linux on my system.  Well after
 all of that work I have no idea what to do next.  Is there a list of
 commands and or sysntax available. I have poked around at the Debian
 site and others with no luck.  I guess I am just stupid.  Takes me back
 to the pre-windows age:)  

 With each software package you have installed you have a matching
/usr/doc/X directory. There you can find info about each package. And
for simple usage instructions you can just type `man utility-name' and read.

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Re: CVS for debian?

1997-11-23 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 Remeber to use the package finders when you are looking for packages.  It
 makes life a lot nicer.
 
 One of there (there are about four I believe) is at:
   http://badger.alaska.net/debian/

 There's also a package list in the Debian WWW site, in
http://www.debian.org/packages.html

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Re: Introduction for new users

1997-11-23 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 more [textfile]:   lists [textfile] to the screen in pages so that
you can read it
 less [textfile]:   like `more' but with more features and somewhat
different behaviour

 I would just recommend only less.

 ed [file]: the original line editor (not friendly)
 
 vi [file]: full-screen editor (find a book about it)

 ? This is for newbies, isn't it?
 I would list `joe', or even `ae'


 I also think that we need such a document.

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Re: XFree86 and Threads...

1997-09-11 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On 9 Sep 1997, Dale Martin wrote:

 I was just curious - since libc6 is thread safe, and GUIs seem to be
 something that can be naturally multithreaded, is XFree86
 multithreaded under Linux? (or any other system, for that matter?)
 I'm about to get a second PPro for my box at home, and I already have
 SMP at work, so the prospect of a multithreaded X is quite interesting
 to me.

 X in unstable will soon be thread safe. But X itself isn't multithreaded.
 But don't worry. As the X server and each application run in its own
process, the Linux kernel will use all your CPUs for them.

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Re: Status of wide character support in Linux

1997-09-11 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sat, 6 Sep 1997, David B. Teague wrote:

 I'm curious if anyone knows the status of wide character support under
 Linux, and under gcc/g++ in particular. 
 I know its coming, but I hope for a 2, 5, or 10 year availbility
 estimate, and a remark on 'whatz happening.'

 The new libc6 in the `unstable' distribution has new support for
extended chars. Check /usr/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz and the `info' documentation
in libc6-doc package. 

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Re: lftp

1997-09-11 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote:

 I've been trying to download a large file (~32Mb) without sucess using
 ftp and ncftp, so I pulled lftp (because it advertises that it will
 checkpoint).  When I try to download, however, it seems not to do
 anything.  For example:
 lftp ftp.corel.com
 ls
 and it just hangs.  Same if I do cd pub instead of ls.  Anyone spare a
 clue for the clueless?

 lftp automaticaly retries if the connection fails, so that's what
happening there. Type `debug' before any other command to see what is
really happening.

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Re: [OFF TOPIC] sig 14?

1997-09-03 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 where can I find a list of which signal numbers correspond to which
 error?  

 man 7 signal

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Re: playmidi

1997-08-07 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

 I'm triny to play sound with playmidi,  as users other than root (I'm
 hoping to do some serious work in rosegarden for a composition class this
 semester).
 But I'm getting /dev/sequencer: permission denied errors.

 You should have a /dev/sequencer file like this:

crw-rw   1 root audio 14,   1 Dec 31  1969 /dev/sequencer

 So you may add sound-allowed users to the `audio' group by typing as
root:

 adduser username audio

 These users will be allowed to use the sound devices. Note that this may
imply a potential security risk, as these users will be allowd to peek
through a connected microphone.

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Outputting tabs with sed

1997-08-07 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier

 How can I output tabs with sed?

 I need something like: `s/insert tab here/\t'

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Re: Migrating from Slackware to Debian?

1997-08-05 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Gonzalo A. Diethelm wrote:

 If I do get the Debian Linux distribution, how hard will it be to
 install it in my Slakware system? My current system has been heavily
 modified by installing patches, new releases of existing software
 packages and new packages altogether. Will I face absolute madness, or
 is there a recommended way of going about this business?

 You may move all your manually installed software to the /usr/local
hirerarchy. i.e.: /bin,/usr/bin -- /usr/local/bin ; /usr/lib --
/usr/local/lib
 Then you should slowly switch to Debian packaged versions...

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Re: Any chroot experts

1997-07-21 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:

 Beware of this. It's only 99% safe.
 The remaining 1%: the sockets and devices remain global.
 Ie as root in the playpin:
   mknod /dev/hda b major minor
   cat /dev/zero  dev/hda
 will wipe your hard disk...

 Or...

 mkdir /proc
 mount -tproc none /proc
 cd /proc/1/root

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Re: logon message

1997-07-16 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 how do I change the logon message?

 Note that the first line of /etc/motd is automatically edited at boot
time to include system information. You may disable this feature in
/etc/init.d/boot (look there, it's easy).

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Re: man page viewer

1997-07-16 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 How can I change the program used to view the manual pages from more to
 less?

Add

export PAGER=less

to your /etc/profile (for a system setting) or to your ~/.bash_profile
(for a per user setting).

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Re: Minimal hardware for web server

1997-07-08 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Paul Wade wrote:

   8 Mb should be enough too.
 I don't know about that. Like I said before apache runs ok on the 8mb
 machine until I run some cgi/perl script. It was even worse when I had
 slackware and then redhat on the machine. Even a 486DX2 was sluggish until
 I went from 8mb to 12mb. I suppose I could eliminate some daemons to free
 up memory, but that would take away from the joy of running linux.
 I find that the 386 w/8mb works well as a combination router, firewall,
 file server, print server, and more. It will run X if you don't mind the
 startup time. Maybe there are a few tweaks I need to try.

 Well... Maybe it's that I don't use perl.. =) I've always used compiled c
programs...

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Re: Minimal hardware for web server

1997-07-07 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Paul Wade wrote:

 I would think that 16mb ram would be a minimum regardless of CPU. 

 8 Mb should be enough too.

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Re: libreadlineg2 and upgrade to unstable

1997-07-01 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Andrew Martin Adrian Cater wrote:

 1.  Can anybody tell me how to satisfy the dependencies etc. to install
libreadlineg2 (ftp'd from master.debian.org).  Using dpkg -r on
libreadline doesn't work as it's needed by other packages.

 Get and install the newest libreadline2.

 And please: don't crosspost user questions to debian development miling
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Re: Linux 2.1.** kernel support for Intel 82557-based ethernet card?

1997-05-17 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:

 Also, does anyone know what website to check out to get a list
 of drivers available for Linux or a list of devices supported
 by the 2.1.** kernel?

 Check http://www.linuxhq.com/ for info about the Linux kernel.

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Re: fetchmail troubles?

1997-05-10 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sat, 10 May 1997, Ciccio wrote:

 :-) `ni-Chufa' is spanish and means more or less like `nothing;' so it is not.
 Thanks to all replys; didn't expect anything else, but if somebody repeats so
 often the same thing, one starts to believe... The host names where real,
 'cause maybe something happens to make them think about their
 installation. BTW, since then, all mail retrieval was OK, but I always access
 the second of the hosts.

 I want to add something: The POP3 protocol deletes messages only when
the client closes succesfully the connection. So if this happens..

RETR 1
DELE 1
RETR 2
DELE 2
connection lost, client didn't issue QUIT command

 Messages 1 and 2 won't be deleted.

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Re: Bo.

1997-04-29 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote:

 I have had debian linux running for about 9 months (So I still a newbie)
 in this time I have learned alot about system admin and system keepup.
 also in this time I have made some royal srewups. so I have made the
 desion to wipe clean my hard disk and start anew with a 1.3 system. I was
 wondering if any one knew when 1.3 would be released and also I was
 wondering how well / stable bo is now ... as I would like to order a cd
 with 1.3 on it and start with the base disk install from 1.3. so any info
 you have I would appreciate.

 Debian 1.3 is just about to be released. I think that there is a small
risk, but it's very acceptable. Install 1.3!

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STL

1997-04-28 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier

 I'd like to use/test the Standard Template Library. A GCC faq says that
it's included in libg++, but I couldn't find it? Where is it?

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Re: STL

1997-04-28 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Oleg Krivosheev wrote:

   I'd like to use/test the Standard Template Library. A GCC faq says that
  it's included in libg++, but I couldn't find it? Where is it?
 what do you mean you couldn't find it?
 Any error messages?
 Works well for me

 I couldn't find any include files... where are they?
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Re: STL

1997-04-28 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Clint Adams wrote:

 They're in /usr/include/g++
 For container classes, you'll need to use /usr/bin/genclass

 I saw that.. But genclass seems to be an ugly replacement for templates..
I want templates..! =)

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Re: STL

1997-04-28 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

   I'd like to use/test the Standard Template Library. A GCC faq says that
  it's included in libg++, but I couldn't find it? Where is it?
 Try /usr/include/g++. You can just include stl headers with a normal
 #include vector.h when compiling with G++.

 Ops.. I see them now... I should have searched better before posting..
sorry...

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Re: Things I miss from Slackware - Could I implement this in my Debian system?

1997-04-25 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:

2: Adjust the colors used. From what I remember, the Slackware used
   green on keywords, and white on err... filnames? (The colors
   aren't that important, but it _did_ improve readability.
 
 This is one problem which stops me from converting my server to
 Debian...  You can patch the terminfo database but I believe it is
 more difficult than editing /etc/termcap (which isn't used anymore).

 Terminfo is fine, is the console that should be configured to do so. Add
this to /etc/profile (or user's equivalent):

echo -ne \\033[1\;6]

 I think this kind of things should be included by default... but some
seem to think that the configuration should be minimal... (I don't
agree... A user with knowledge can change every configuration detail, but
new users are forced to live with ugly colors, no dir in the bash promptm
no support for LESSPIPE...)

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Re: globally override/fool dpkg dependency mechanism?

1997-04-24 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Roderick Schertler wrote:

 I do Perl development and I like to keep a current binary as
 /usr/bin/perl so that it gets a good workout.  How should I tell the
 dpkg system that perl is available even though I don't have the standard
 perl package installed?

 Install the perl package, and then replace the files you want with the
newer versions...

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Re: Shell with cd command

1997-04-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Paul Serice wrote:

 I seem to remember someone speaking of a shell that prevented the 
 user from leaving his or her home directory.
 Can someone point to the right Debian Package?

 Try rbash (just bash with other name).

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Re: using shadow

1997-04-14 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Jason Killen wrote:

 
 I know that /etc/passwd must be readable by world but if shadow passwording
 is used can /etc/shadow be set to only read/write by root.
 
 How do I setup shadowing, I know there is the libpam package but other than
 that I'm basically lost.

 The next Debian release (1.3) will include shadow. You can download the
needed packages from that distribution (frozen). Those packages are login
and passwd. You will also need libc5 (= 5.4.0).
 After installing type `shadowconfig on'.

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Re: Journalling: Upgrades, Kernel patching, ...

1997-04-12 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Jim Pick wrote:

  Great!  I
  would like to see
  http://localhost/cgi-bin/dwww?type=dirlocation=/usr/doc done as a
  multi-column table; it would look better and be easier to search with
  the eyes.  You could add tags conditional on $ENV{'USER_AGENT'} being
  a table aware browser, and use pre with added spaces and a hard
  formatted table for non-tableing ones.  It will take some codeing
  for sure.
 That's a good idea.  I hadn't thought of doing that.  I'll add it to
 the to do list.  :-)

 Don't parse UserAgent!  Lynx can ignore the tables... Like it does in
www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/

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Re: Question about dselect..

1997-04-08 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, smorrill wrote:

 I have a base debian system installed on my 586 133 mhz.  I got the
 Cheap Bytes cd and am trying to install packages, specifically the
 Xwindows packages.  These are located in a directory called rex-fixe
 on the cd.  I must be missing something here, but I cannot get dselect
 to recognize that directory.

 The directory you should use is stable, which is a link to rex-fixed.
There's no rex-fixe. You're probably looking the CD from DOS. Linux uses
an extension called `Rock Ridge' to use long filename, that neither DOS
nor Win95 understands.

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Re: RPM

1997-04-03 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

  The proble left is: The .deb uploaded can be generated by a source not
  included in the source package. It would be great if gcc placed some kind
  of signature in binaries...
 But how do you guarantee that someone doesn't pervert gcc?

 Hum.. you're right... I'd better not send this idea to the gcc people..
=)

  let's make all developers upload only the source versions of their
  packages! An automated script can compile all the packages in some trusted
  environment.
 When I last heard, we had some 240 (out of 900) packages not converted to
 the new source format. This gets in the way of automatic compilation.
 Volunteers to work on that are welcome.

 I don't say we would need to recompile all the .deb's... only the newly
uploaded.

 I've poste this to debian-devel, but noboy seeme to like it... and I
still think that it's something we MUST do...

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Re: RPM

1997-04-02 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 Unfortunately, I feel that Debian must bear the cost of certification
 of maintainers and original authors. Unless I can tell someone I know
 where a program came from, no other security procedures can be trusted
 to have any effectiveness whatsoever.

 Yes, they are. Testing, and revising developers diffs. If you could check
package MD5 (someday we'll be able to do this =) ), you'll only need to
see the diff.gz to check for security problems (Asuming we can trust the
mainstream developer).
 The proble left is: The .deb uploaded can be generated by a source not
included in the source package. It would be great if gcc placed some kind
of signature in binaries... but it doesn't... So.. what can we do? I say:
let's make all developers upload only the source versions of their
packages! An automated script can compile all the packages in some trusted
environment.

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Re: RPM and dpkg merger

1997-04-01 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

 The big problem for me is that if the packaging systems converge then so
 will the filesystem layout and the way many services are implemented. This
 reduces the freedom of two distributions. I don't see this as
 strengthening anyone.

 It depends... there are some things that doesn't change the
quality/personality of a distribution... And having different standards
for those things perhaps isn't a good idea... e.g.: the location of rc.d
per level scripts...

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Re: RPM

1997-04-01 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

 Unless GCC is some all powerfull god like compiler this exact problem
 exists in Linux too. Any shard code system basically breaks badly when you
 try and use C++. The problem is quite simply that C++ has no standards for
 binary class layout and no standard way to specify an order in the class
 as well as having no way to upgrade base classes without breaking the
 derived classes.

 I have read that Opendoc/SOM/Bento, etc would probavly be distributed
under GPL. And SOM is the solution to sharing classes... We'll what
happens...

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Re: RPM and dpkg merger

1997-03-31 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

 Why don't we merge the two package management systems?  It would be
 in Linux's best interest in the long term to have a single packaging
 standard.
 Is this feasible?

 Please note that having a single packaging standard won't give the
ability to `cross-install' packages. The distributions differ in the
filesystem layout, and in the way many services are implemented.

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Re: RPM

1997-03-31 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Jim Pick wrote:

   Wouldn't it be great to port dpkg to DOS/Win95? It then could be used by
  shareware/freeware authors... And people would be biased towards Debian
  when adopting Linux
 I'm quite interested in this too.  Klee Dienes also said that he was working
 on doing this (using Cygnus' cygwin32 package).  I'm not sure what the state
 of his efforts are though, he seems pretty busy.

 Yes.. but...
 * Windows users probably don't need dependencies. Programs doesn't
usally depend on external libraries...
 * Windows users like to move files... =)
 * Would authors adopt dpkg?

 Perhaps a more realistic goal is to port dpkg to other popular UNIX
variants, and `market' it as a piece of software independent of Debian.
 (I was told that there is a SGI port being made!).

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Re: RPM

1997-03-31 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:

 Most of the Windows programs I've seen kindly install a DLL or two in the
 \Windows directory.
 I don't know is dpkg would catch on on Windows, but dpkg's dependency
 mechanism provides a much cleaner handing of shared libraries than the
 Windows way... and is something that would do Windows much good, IMHO.

 Yes, not many programs use DLLs... And how many Windows programs do you
know that can share a DLL's that provides some funcionality? In Linux
there are lots of things using libraries like libjpeg, libtiff, libvga,
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Re: RPM

1997-03-31 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Douglas L Stewart wrote:

   Yes, not many programs use DLLs... And how many Windows programs do you
  know that can share a DLL's that provides some funcionality? In Linux
  there are lots of things using libraries like libjpeg, libtiff, libvga,
  etc...
 I was under the impression that EVERY windows program used a set of basic
 DLL's.  Now I'll admit, it's been almost a year since I did much serious
 windows programming, but I'm pretty sure that there are some basic DLL's
 used by every windows program.
 Also, there are basic DLL's you need for say... a program compiled with
 borland's compiler.

 Of course.. every program uses system DLL's... but we should forget that
because MS isn't going to use dpkg.. =)

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Re: RPM

1997-03-31 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:

 More programs would share DLL if it wasn't asking for trouble like it is
 currently. Just take MFC or OWL as an example... Quite a few progams use
 one or the other, both Microsoft and Borland ship them as DLLs, but most
 programs either install their own private copy or get linked statically to
 avoid all the trouble that mismatching versions, etc. cause when
 sharing DLLs (or at least attempting to).

 That's completely true... But even so... Is less common for Windows
packages to depend on external libraries. And if they do so, the depended
libraries are very few... VB*DLL, MFC*DLL, etc...
 I don't know... educate the Windows people would be a huge task... =)

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Re: RPM

1997-03-31 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Jim Pick wrote:

 Initially, I think it would probably concentrate on ports of the
 standard GNU tools and other Unix-based stuff.  This would really
 serve the needs of people who have to do web stuff on Windows NT,
 and want to use some real tools.  People could also develop to
 the Win32 API using gcc and mingw32, or to the Unix-style API
 provided by cygwin32.  One caveat - the cygwin32 .dll is distributed
 under the GPL, but not the LGPL, so it's useless for building
 proprietary apps, unless you get a license from Cygnus.

 I didn't think about porting the whole environment. That wasy it would
make a lot of sense to have dpkg... Wow... that would be very good for the
people who uses linux but are forced to use Win95 at their job... =)

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Re: bug package

1997-03-30 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Francesco Tapparo wrote:

 I'm a happy debian user: I have a bo installation.
 I have noticed that rxvt and emacs don't run automatically update-menus
 after the installation. I think that these are bugs, and I have reported
 thes using bug. Bug has mailed the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I
 don't have received any answer. Is this a problem of bug? Is this a problem
 of the bug tracking System?

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RPM

1997-03-30 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier

 Wouldn't it be great to port dpkg to DOS/Win95? It then could be used by
shareware/freeware authors... And people would be biased towards Debian
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Re: Finding files not present (challenge to your intelligence)

1997-03-27 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:

 Which can be abbreviated with zsh to:
   comm -1 -3 (sort searchlist) (find -type f -printf %f\n | sort)
 Hop ! No more cluttering, no more intermediate files.
 I love zsh's redirection !

 Bash can also do that..! =b

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Re: How do I find package?

1997-03-25 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Rowan Deppeler wrote:

 Can anyone tell me how I can locate which debian package has a 
 required dependancy??
 Ie. Perl5 requires 'Libdl1' but nothing seems to own it?

 You may visit http://www.feedback.com.ar/debian/ and find out

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Re: cfdisk: Cannot seek on disk drive

1997-03-24 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On 23 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You had that problem on Debian _1.2_ ??? I thought that was fixed in 1.2 .

 Today I downloaded the 1.2 boot disks (dated Feb97) tried to install in a
Quatum HD, and cfdisk has that problem `can't fseek...'. fdisk worked.

 The disk was in a LBA mode with unusual values for heads and sectors,
perhaps cfdisk can't handle those higher values...

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Re: problems with shmget

1997-03-23 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 23 Mar 1997, Ken Gaugler wrote:

 Ran into this error when trying to use the GIMP:
 shmget failed: Function not implemented
 gimp fatal error: shmget failed!
 Is there something I need to configure to get the function shmget
 working?
 
 It's your kernel compiled with SYSV IPC support? It's very important to
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Re: Upgrading from slackware to debian

1997-03-19 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

  Any suggestions?
 [...]
 You then need to obtain the non-debian source for dpkg. Once you have this
 compiled and running, you need to carefuly install the base system,
 using dpkg -i. Start with ld.so and libc5 and the rest should go smoothly.

 The procedure you describe is perfect.. but.. I users asks I would
suggest: Moving everything to /usr/local and untar base*.tgz from root.
This should be much safer... I think...
 Perhaps one very secure procedure should be chosen and included in the 
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Re: GNU/Linux Need Help!!!

1997-03-16 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, val.tamarov wrote:

 Can anybody send me basic linux command for Linux?

man any-command  == help on any command
ls = dir
cp = copy
cat = type
ae and joe = editors
cd = cd =) (but always with a space before: `cd/' doesn't work)
pwd = print working directory

 How to switch to floppy?

 Preferred way: Use the mtools package. Then use all the DOS commands plus
a `m' like:

mdir
mcopy /pepe/adios a:fafa.txt
mdel a:fafa.txt

 You can also mount floppydisks... with `mount /dev/fd0 /mnt', remember to
do `umount /dev/fd0' before removing the disk

 How to run program?

 Just type it. Note: the current directory is not in the path, so if you
have a program in a directory that isn't in the path you have to type
./program.

 How to distinguish executable files and directories?

Type this:

alias ls='ls --color -F'
alias l='ls -laF'

 (and put it in /etc/profile or /home/your-user/.bash_profile)

 I already know pwd, ls, edit.

 Uhh.. you should have told this before.. =)

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Re: root.dip: invalid group when installing ppp

1997-03-15 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On 14 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Setting up ppp (2.2.0f-19) ...
chown: root.dip: invalid group
dpkg: error processing ppp (--configure):
 I ran into that recently with diald.  Turned out to be a typo in
 /etc/group.

 I had the same problen. A newline was missing...

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Re: help with mgetty..

1997-03-15 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Mike Patterson wrote:

 Quick and too the point... I have some docs I got from 
 http://www.buoy.com/isp/mgetty.html; that talk about policy.h and
 login.config... Neither of which I have. any ideas? 

 policy.h is the file that is modified when setting compile time options.
You can change these options in the files in /etc/mgetty.
 login.config is a file in /etc/mgetty.. =)

 You don't need to search the WWW for docs..! You have them in
/usr/doc/mgetty...

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Re: fdate

1997-03-14 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote:

 I've run into what appears to be a library problem with one of my debian
 systems. When I try to compile a fortran program one one of them, 
 compilation chokes at the linking stage because a subroutine called 
 fdate can't be found. This doesn't happen on any of the other machines 
 but all of them, as far as I can tell, have the same version of the 
 library packages installed (libc5, libelf etc...) Does anyone know what 
 package contains the library with the routine fdate? Maybe my old version 
 on this machine was destroyed somehow. Thanks..

 Run `strace command-to-compile-fortran 2 out' in the machine that
works, and in the machine it doesn't, and compare out.

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rx vs regex.. Which one?

1997-03-12 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier

 There are two regex packages... and there seems to be regex support in
libc5... which one should I use?

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Re: Serial ports/Speak Freely/Video/Installation Dependencies...

1997-03-06 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Mark Lever wrote:

 getty processed on ttyS1 block modem access to cua1.  When a getty is
 running (getty, agetty, uugetty or mgetty) and I try to run kermit (or
 minicom or statserial) I get a can't open device error.  Why?  They
 didn't used to.  Is this a new kernel feature?

 /dev/cua shouldn't be used. They're there only for backwards
compatiility. You should configure all your software to use /dev/ttyS?.

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Re: xt?

1997-03-05 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Vadim Vygonets wrote:

  I believe one reason is its a 32-bit PROTECTED mode OS.  I don't
  believe that the 286 chip has that feature available.
 You're right.  I believe :)

 Nop.
 The 80286 has protected mode (that's why it can adress up to 16 Mb). But
Linux is a 32 bit operating system, and won't run in a 286.

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Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-02-28 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Alex Lobkovsky wrote:

 Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?

 You'll need to compile support for that into the kernel. The support is
still in alpha state.
 Check http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html

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Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:

 So start by learning what you need to know to have a nicer setup. If
 you dont have the time to trace through all the documentation to find
 out exactly what needs to be done, then at least skim the docs to get an
 overview of how it works and ask specific how do I questions on
 debian-user.
 
 not only will it be more satisfying to have done it by yourself (with or
 without help from the mailing lists), but you'll also learn a lot faster
 as you will have the positive reinforcement of seeing the changes you
 make actually have an affect on the system. You WON'T get that if it's
 all spoon-fed to you.

 I personally think that this is very wrong.

 The classic `UNIX is for real men, so read all the F. man's, and howtos,
etc'.

 I think that we should try to aim at the normal desktop user, not only
the developers. Not only can the developers always changes whatever cames
preconfigured, but it's also more instructive to have a good example.  (I
can learn more about customizing prompts with a `PS1=.\\$' than from
a `' =) ). With good defaults, one can often adapt and reconfigure just
without even looking the manpages. 

 Don't think only at the developer. Think at one poor guy that works in an
ISP with Linux, he doesn't programm in C, he don't like to read manuals.
He's never touched an X resource. And he will never change its RedHat
system... guess why...

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Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:

  Debian comes up in a much rawer form after install - for instance,
  no prompt beyond the basic # for root and $ for the user (RedHat
  gives you the now famous username /home/username$ prompt).
 # and $ are standard/expected prompts. if you want something different,
 customise it yourself. 
 I like my own prompt of `PS1=(\h-\u) [\t] \w\$ ` (looks like:
 (siva-cas) [12:14:32] ~$ ) but I wouldnt force everyone else to use
 it...it takes me 5 seconds on every new debian machine i build to edit
 ~/.bashrc as needed.

 =/

 He's right Debian should provide a nicer default for the prompt. Many
people take this things into account when deciding which distribution they
like best.
 I think we should provide a standard prompt like:

PS1=[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\\w\\$ 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/fvwm2$ _

Or the simpler...

newton:/usr/doc/fvwm2$ _

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Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Pete Templin wrote:

   He's right Debian should provide a nicer default for the prompt. Many
  people take this things into account when deciding which distribution they
  like best.
 If someone is going to evaluate an entire distribution on a prompt (even
 if there are other factors), I'm not going to be upset if they don't
 choose Debian. 

 I'm no talking about just the prompt. We're talking about good and
comfortable defaults, default settings should be like suggestions of how
things can be done.
 Good defaults is very important in a distribution, IMHO.

 Perhaps we could/should point people towards how to change
 it, but I see NO reason to depart from the standard.


 Standard? What standard? Is this...

# _

 POSIX?  =)

 which produces the following two line prompt, always ready at position 6:
   -- Tue 21:17 on templinux : pwd is ~/files/personal
 tcsh 

 Too custom... =)

 The default prompt should only display the cwd, the host, and perhaps de
user...

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Re: RC5 challenge proposal

1997-02-24 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Gleb Arshinov wrote:

 IMO, it would be good publicity to promise 1/3 of potential prize to
 Linux International, 1/3 to FSF, 1/3 to keep for debian, and keep
 running with [EMAIL PROTECTED] identity.

 I second this.

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Re: Filesystemsize

1997-02-24 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Stefan Walder wrote:

 does anyone know how big a ext2-filesystem can be? I think some time ago it
 has been about 2 GB?

 I've successfully formated and used a 9 Gb ext2 file system. I currently
work in one near 4 Gb large.

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Re: FTP problems (not DSELECT)

1997-02-23 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, Bubonic wrote:

 I can FTP to my machine, but only to anonymous.  UNLESS, the account that
 I am FTPing to is running bash for a shell.  If it is running tcsh, it
 says:  user access denied.  

 Check that the shell is listed in /etc/shells, ftpd check if the user's
shell is there.

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Re: People Demanding Credit in the Press Release Silliness

1997-02-22 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 I happen to be married to a professional publicist. She thought I should
 cut out the space shuttle stuff and just talk about volunteers beating
 Microsoft at their own game. Next press release. That will give me a
 _little_ room to talk about Linus and RMS. But I still have to fit it in
 one page.

 I thought about writting about that for a Argentine magazine here.

 Last year I wrote an article for `Byte Argentina' about Linux. It was
before I knew Debian =/.

 I was asked to write an article about `what Unix has to offer to compete
with NT'... I think I could push Linux there, and then: Debian =)

(I don't know if `push' is well used there... My poor English again...)

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Re: Intranet

1997-02-21 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Seth Reinosa wrote:

 I would also like to know if I really need any other software.

 You should probably install Squid in the linux machine. It's a WWW cache
that can save bandwidth and improve performance...

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Re: Zmodem source

1997-02-20 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Timothy Phan wrote:

   Can someone please let me know where can I get zmodem source?

 You can get the source of every program in Debian.

 Connect to ftp.debian.org (or a mirror) and go to
/debian/unstable/source/comm
 There you'll find three files related to lrzsz (the package that contains
zmodem).
1) The .dsc file is a control file.
2) The .orig.tar.gz is the original tar file you can find in Sunsite
3) The .diff.gz is the patches used to transform the package in a
`Debianized' package.

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Re: menu

1997-02-20 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Brad Bell wrote:

 i've got the menu package installed and working great (with fvwm2/95).  i
 was wondering if anyone out there knows how to add a menu item for
 something which is not part of a debian package.  i.e. stuff i've manually
 installed, like x48 or doom or amaya. -- i could just add them to a
 totally unrelated package which happens to be installed, but that doesn't
 seem very proper...  is there a file i can put in /etc/menu which will be
 read in even if there is no debian package of that name?

 Of course! Read the docs in /usr/doc/menu...!

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Re: menu

1997-02-20 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Brad Bell wrote:

   Of course! Read the docs in /usr/doc/menu...!
 oh thank you oh oh so much!  what wonderful wonderful instructions!  i
 never would have thought of doing that!

 It seems that you needed that someone tells you to read the docs. I'm
glad to have helped you... =b

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