Re: Matrox G550 - MGA X server fails
It does seem to be related to video drivers more generally. Outside X the console driver from grub fails to reduce the size of text. Since I am using grub version 2, it will take a lot of research to find out what the scripts are doing. There is no simple VGA= parameter to change. I have set the X server to setuid and am going to swap the video card back in and try again later. On 22 Mar 2017 8:12 pm, "Sven Joachim" <svenj...@gmx.de> wrote: > On 2017-03-22 10:25 +0000, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > > I am unable to start X using a Matrox Millennium G550 PCIe card. > > > > This is what I think is the relevant part of the log for the session: > > > > #011compiled for 1.19.2, module version = 0.1.0 > > #011ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0 > > (--) MGA(0): Chipset: "mgag550" > > xf86TokenToOptinfo: table is NULL > > xf86TokenToOptinfo: table is NULL > > (==) MGA(0): Using HW cursor > > (--) MGA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF000 > > (--) MGA(0): MMIO registers at 0xF702 > > (--) MGA(0): Pseudo-DMA transfer window at 0xF680 > > (EE) MGA(0): Unable to map Framebuffer F000 200. Permission > > denied (13) > > (II) MGA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section > > #011"Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32 > > (==) MGA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > > (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 888 > > (==) MGA(0): Using AGP 1x mode > > (==) MGA(0): Using XAA acceleration > > (WW) MGA(0): Could not retrieve video BIOS! > > (EE) MGA(0): Unable to detect video RAM. > > (II) UnloadModule: "mga" > > > > The full log is attached. > > > > Can anyone indicate what the problem is, please? > > Probably that the X server is no longer running with root rights, and > it has to do that if there is no kernel driver for the graphics card. > See /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/NEWS.Debian.gz: > > , > | xorg-server (2:1.17.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium > | > | The Xorg server is no longer setuid root by default. This change > reduces the > | risk of privilege escalation due to X server bugs, but has some side > effects: > | > | * it relies on logind and libpam-systemd > | * it relies on a kernel video driver (so the userspace component > doesn't > | touch the hardware directly) > | * it needs X to run on the virtual console (VT) it was started from > | * it changes the location for storing the Xorg log from /var/log/ to > | ~/.local/share/xorg/ > | > | On systems where those are not available, the new xserver-xorg-legacy > package > | is needed to allow X to run with elevated privileges. See the > | Xwrapper.config(5) manual page for configuration details. > | > | -- Julien Cristau <jcris...@debian.org> Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:54:11 > + > ` > > In short, you need to install xserver-xorg-legacy. > > Cheers, >Sven > >
Matrox G550 - MGA X server fails
I am unable to start X using a Matrox Millennium G550 PCIe card. This is what I think is the relevant part of the log for the session: #011compiled for 1.19.2, module version = 0.1.0 #011ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0 (--) MGA(0): Chipset: "mgag550" xf86TokenToOptinfo: table is NULL xf86TokenToOptinfo: table is NULL (==) MGA(0): Using HW cursor (--) MGA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF000 (--) MGA(0): MMIO registers at 0xF702 (--) MGA(0): Pseudo-DMA transfer window at 0xF680 (EE) MGA(0): Unable to map Framebuffer F000 200. Permission denied (13) (II) MGA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section #011"Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32 (==) MGA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 888 (==) MGA(0): Using AGP 1x mode (==) MGA(0): Using XAA acceleration (WW) MGA(0): Could not retrieve video BIOS! (EE) MGA(0): Unable to detect video RAM. (II) UnloadModule: "mga" The full log is attached. Can anyone indicate what the problem is, please? Packages:15:40:59 phoenix systemd[1]: Started User Manager for UID 118. (--) Log file renamed from "/var/lib/gdm3/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.pid-9327.log" to "/var/lib/gdm3/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" X.Org X Server 1.19.2 Release Date: 2017-03-02 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian Current Operating System: Linux phoenix 4.9.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.13-1 (2017-02-27) x86_64 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-2-amd64 root=UUID=72b9d4db-4d0e-466f-b90e-0a1a72dffcba ro quiet Build Date: 03 March 2017 03:14:41PM xorg-server 2:1.19.2-1 (https://www.debian.org/support) Current version of pixman: 0.34.0 #011Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org #011to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, #011(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, #011(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/lib/gdm3/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Mar 20 15:40:59 2017 (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "" (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". #011Using a default monitor configuration. (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) Automatically adding GPU devices (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1f (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. #011Entry deleted from font path. (==) FontPath set to: #011/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, #011/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, #011/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, #011/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, #011/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, #011/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, #011built-ins (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. #011If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. (II) Loader magic: 0x557672802e00 (II) Module ABI versions: #011X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 #011X.Org Video Driver: 23.0 #011X.Org XInput driver : 24.1 #011X.Org Server Extension : 10.0 (++) using VT number 1 (II) systemd-logind: took control of session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/c313 (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/dri/card0 226:0 fd 12 paused 0 (--) PCI: (0:0:2:0) 8086:0412:1458:d000 rev 6, Mem @ 0xf740/4194304, 0xe000/268435456, I/O @ 0xf000/64 (--) PCI:*(0:2:0:0) 102b:2527:102b:22c0 rev 1, Mem @ 0xf000/33554432, 0xf702/16384, 0xf680/8388608, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" #011compiled for 1.19.2, module version = 1.0.0 #011ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0 (==) Matched mga as autoconfigured driver 0 (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 1 (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 2 (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 3 (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout (II) LoadModule: "mga" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/mga_drv.so (II) Module mga: vendor="X.Org Foundation" #011compiled for 1.19.1, module version = 1.6.5 #011Module class: X.Org Video Driver #011ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0 (II) LoadModule: "modesetting" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation" #011compiled for 1.19.2, module version = 1.19.2 #011Module class: X.Org Video Driver #011ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0 (II) LoadModule: "fbdev" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation" #011compiled for 1.19.0, module version = 0.4.4
Re: Unwanted on-screen keyboard - which package.
On Sun, 2016-06-26 at 03:13 +1200, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 05:06:13PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > I enabled the on-screen keyboard applet in Cinnamon so as to write > > some > > text with French accents. But then it kept on coming up when I > > didn't > > want it, every time I went into any text field. I removed the > > applet > > from my toolbar - no difference. I found the cinnamon on-screen- > > keyboard and deleted its entire directory - no difference. I logged > > off > > and even rebooted - no difference. I switched to Gnome (from > > Cinnamon) > > - no difference, and now I sometimes got a second small keyboard > > coming > > up, which seemed to be something to do with antlr. I deleted its > > package. It still came up! > > > > Nothing I do could get rid of this confounded nuisance until I > > rebooted > > again, after purging the antlr packages. > > > > But what package should have a bug filed? > > Install it again. Does the problem reocurr? In fact it is still occurring, without reinstalling anything, but not in all the cases that it formerly was. For instance the virtual screen appears when I start synaptic and it wants me to type in the password, but not when I search something inside synaptic, where formerly it did occur. On reinstalling caribou and caribou-antler, the small virtual keyboard also appears (and won't go away again).
Unwanted on-screen keyboard - which package.
I enabled the on-screen keyboard applet in Cinnamon so as to write some text with French accents. But then it kept on coming up when I didn't want it, every time I went into any text field. I removed the applet from my toolbar - no difference. I found the cinnamon on-screen- keyboard and deleted its entire directory - no difference. I logged off and even rebooted - no difference. I switched to Gnome (from Cinnamon) - no difference, and now I sometimes got a second small keyboard coming up, which seemed to be something to do with antlr. I deleted its package. It still came up! Nothing I do could get rid of this confounded nuisance until I rebooted again, after purging the antlr packages. But what package should have a bug filed? Using Debian testing on amd64, updated this morning. Thanks Oliver Elphick
Debian testing - update has partly broken X, but which package?
System : amd64 testing latest With the same update to testing that brought in the new kernel, about 2 days back, some other package got changed that has partly broken the display of window contents in X. Symptoms - In most windows (except Iceweasel) there is no scroll bar. The top menu line items are all run together with no spacing, although they do still work. Drop-down lists have no surround. Where Gnome presents an ON/OFF switch, it is not properly displayed and does not appear to work. It is no longer possible to highlight text in certain places (as when renaming files in the file browser). Highlighted text is no longer visible in evolution. The general appearance is very poor. Screenshot available at http://www.lfix.co.uk/images/x-problem.jpeg I would like to know which package is responsible for these features, please. Oliver Elphick Lincolnshire, UK
Re: Creating launcher in Gnome 3
On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 17:19 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 13:27 +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > > > I'm trying to create a launcher. Following the explanation in > > https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/in > > de > > x. > > html > > > > I created the following file in ~/.local/share/applications > > ... > > However, this is ignored. It appears from the xdg reference that > > the > > directory (and its subdirectories too?) should be read > > automatically, > > but my entry still does not appear in the menu. > > > > So what is missing, please? > Works fine here if I replace the Exec path to something like /bin/ls > so > it might be that the path is wrong or estudio is not executable? In fact it does recognise the items. I used alacarte as the other response suggested, and it created almost identical items inthe same place that I had put them. But Gnome ignores the Categories attribute (and alacarte also ignored it) and put them in "Other".
Creating launcher in Gnome 3
I'm trying to create a launcher. Following the explanation in https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/index. html I created the following file in ~/.local/share/applications eiffel-estudio.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Type=Application Exec=/opt/Eiffel_15.12/studio/spec/linux-x86-64/bin/estudio Icon=/opt/Eiffel_15.12/studio/bitmaps/png/estudio.png Name=Eiffel Builder Categories=Programming However, this is ignored. It appears from the xdg reference that the directory (and its subdirectories too?) should be read automatically, but my entry still does not appear in the menu. So what is missing, please? Oliver Elphick
Re: Do not know which package bug is in
On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 11:34 +0100, Robin Oberg wrote: > On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 11:21 +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > Intermittent failures like that sound more like hardware problems. > > I > > seem to recall reading that charging devices like that demands more > > power than the computer can supply. > > > > Oliver Elphick > Would that not mean that the same problem exists in other operating > systems as well? But seeing as it works fine to charge this old > iPhone 4 > in Windows, so it does not seem like a hardware malfunction in this > particular case. Not necessarily. It might be that Windows doesn't use a particular area of memory that Linux does. I should go for the other poster's suggestion, of using a powered USB hub. If the failures cease, it was a hardware problem.
Re: Do not know which package bug is in
On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 10:25 +0100, Robin Oberg wrote: > Hi! > > I'm new to Linux and Debian 8.3, but thought I'd help out by sharing > this bug that I've found. My system crashes randomly when my iPhone > is > charging via USB, and every time that it happens I am forced to > hard-reboot the laptop by holding down the power button. I don't know > where in the system this bug could be located, what package it might > be. ... > > Any help would be appreciated. Intermittent failures like that sound more like hardware problems. I seem to recall reading that charging devices like that demands more power than the computer can supply. Oliver Elphick
Re: How to debug systemd script?
On Tue, 2016-03-29 at 02:33 +1300, chrisb@localhost.localdomain wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 01:00:35PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > How can I find out what is going on to stop the normal init script > > from > > working? Is there some way to force systemctl to log what it is > > doing? > > If it does log, where does it put the log? > See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=731862 > > Near the very end it suggests: > strace -f -o /tmp/strace.log -s 2048 -p 1 & systemctl restart > postgresql.service In fact the other suggestion there, of suppressing the redirect to systemctl, proved helpful. the problem is actually in postgresql- common, in a Perl script. Thanks
How to debug systemd script?
I have installed Debian alongside Linux Mint and wish to have PostgreSQL use the same database. So I have copied the system configuration files in /etc/postgresql from the Linux Mint partition. They point to the PostgreSQL data files in /lvhome/postgresql. This works in Linux Mint but not in Debian; PostgreSQL does not start. There is nothing in the logs of either system or PostgreSQL. It works if I call pg_ctl or if I run postgres directly. I put set -x in the init script. When it is run, we see: # /etc/init.d/postgresql start ... + echo -n Starting postgresql (via systemctl): postgresql.service Starting postgresql (via systemctl): postgresql.service+ log_daemon_msg_post Starting postgresql (via systemctl) postgresql.service + : + /bin/systemctl start postgresql.service + rc=0 ... There is a long pause at /bin/systemctl, but no error is indicated. However, the server is not started. How can I find out what is going on to stop the normal init script from working? Is there some way to force systemctl to log what it is doing? If it does log, where does it put the log? Thanks Oliver Elphick
Re: Multi-display - one monitor active but blank
On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 16:36 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > > I didn't see a response to the question if this was a laptop? > It isn't. It's a tower PC. The on-board Intel video is not used; there is a dual-head Nvidia card with both monitors.
Re: Multi-display - one monitor active but blank
On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 20:55 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Oliver Elphick composed on 2016-03-21 22:56 (UTC): > > > What gfxchip powers your displays? > > > > Card: Nvidia > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [NVS > > 300] > > (rev a2) > > > > (I hope that is an answer!) > According to the log, you have both NVidia and Intel gfx hardware, > which to > me means you're probably using a laptop, making my help available to > you very > limited. AFAIK, those two together are a special hybrid that for > optimal use > requires a special driver, either Bumblebee, or Prime, depending on > whether > you want a FOSS solution (latter), or a proprietary one (former). > > Is it actually a PC with a separate NVidia card in a PCIe slot? If > yes, are > the cables actually both DisplayPort cables? Sometimes the logs > identify > connections differently from the actual physics. I've often seen > physical DVI > connectors identified as HDMI with Intel gfx hardware. > The latter is the case. The dual-head Nvidia card has both monitors; the Intel port on the motherboard is not in use. ... > First, ensure the display itself is not a problem by trying two > things if you > haven't already: > > 1-boot the computer with the 1920x1200 display powered off The second (problem) display came up for the boot messages, but X still treated the powered-off display as the primary display, so I had to turn it on to log in. However the secondary display is currently active, which is an improvement! > > 2-if the cables are twins, boot the computer with the cables > switched, so > that the smaller is primary rather than the larger Bizarre results - the swapped primary (now secondary) was clearly using the wrong driver settings, giving a very unclear picture, but both screens came up. On restoring things and rebooting, both screens came up. I'll wait to see what happens when it blanks the screen after inactivity. > Docs for solving such problems as yours are usually very good on > Arch, so you > might wish to look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME if > nothing > yet tried helps. Another place to look for video-focused help is: > https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Thanks for the suggestions.
Re: Multi-display - one monitor active but blank
On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 23:07 +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > It couldn't be a dodgy cable, could it? > > Mark I don't think so. If that were the case it would flash on and off as the cable moved. It is resolutely blank, except just sometimes. The cable is behind the desk, so it doesn't ge tmoved. It may have something to do with the momitor itself, but I don't have another one to substitute. Oliver
Re: Multi-display - one monitor active but blank
On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 17:27 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Oliver Elphick composed on 2016-03-21 21:01 (UTC): > > > > > I have two monitors; the second one sometimes comes to life but is > > usually blank. However, the system thinks that it is active and > > displaying. > > > Which Debian? MATE testing # cat /etc/debian_version stretch/sid (up to date) > What gfxchip powers your displays? Card: Nvidia 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [NVS 300] (rev a2) (I hope that is an answer!) > Maybe you hit a known bug, such as: > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94171 It is not the same chipset as reported in that bug, and I don't know what I'm doing well enough to play with randr at the moment. > Show us Xorg.0.log and .xsession-errors and maybe we can help. .xsession-errors does not exist, so far as I can see. As far as the system is concerned, it doesn't think that there is any error. Xorg.0.log attached. Both monitors are recognised. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Oliver Elphick Lincolnshire, England [53.349] (--) Log file renamed from "/home/olly/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.pid-1584.log" to "/home/olly/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" [53.350] X.Org X Server 1.18.2 Release Date: 2016-03-11 [53.350] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [53.350] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian [53.350] Current Operating System: Linux phoenix 4.3.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.3.5-1 (2016-02-06) x86_64 [53.350] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.3.0-1-amd64 root=UUID=72b9d4db-4d0e-466f-b90e-0a1a72dffcba ro quiet [53.350] Build Date: 12 March 2016 07:32:38AM [53.350] xorg-server 2:1.18.2-1 (http://www.debian.org/support) [53.350] Current version of pixman: 0.33.6 [53.350] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [53.350] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [53.350] (==) Log file: "/home/olly/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Mar 21 22:37:03 2016 [53.372] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [53.406] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [53.406] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [53.406] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [53.406] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [53.406] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [53.406] (==) Automatically adding devices [53.406] (==) Automatically enabling devices [53.406] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices [53.406] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1f [53.406] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. [53.406] Entry deleted from font path. [53.406] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, built-ins [53.406] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" [53.406] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. [53.406] (II) Loader magic: 0x55f22c60ddc0 [53.406] (II) Module ABI versions: [53.407] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [53.407] X.Org Video Driver: 20.0 [53.407] X.Org XInput driver : 22.1 [53.407] X.Org Server Extension : 9.0 [53.407] (++) using VT number 2 [53.408] (II) systemd-logind: took control of session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/_31 [53.409] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card1) [53.409] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/dri/card1 226:1 fd 9 paused 0 [53.409] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) [53.410] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/dri/card0 226:0 fd 10 paused 0 [53.410] (--) PCI: (0:0:2:0) 8086:0412:1458:d000 rev 6, Mem @ 0xf740/4194304, 0xd000/268435456, I/O @ 0xf000/64 [53.410] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:10d8:10de:0862 rev 162, Mem @ 0xf600/16777216, 0xe000/67108864, 0xe400/33554432, I/O @ 0xe000/128, BIOS @ 0x/524288 [53.410] (II) LoadModule: "glx" [53.428] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [53.452] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [53.452] compiled for 1.18.2, module version = 1.0.0 [53.452] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0 [53.452] (==) AIGLX enabled [53.452] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 0 [53.452] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 1 [53.
Multi-display - one monitor active but blank
I have two monitors; the second one sometimes comes to life but is usually blank. However, the system thinks that it is active and displaying. The primary monitor is a Samsung 24" and the secondary (usually non- functioning) one a Mirai - Chi Mei Optoelectronics 22". Just occasionally the second monitor comes up and can be used normally, but once the displays are turned off by the screen saver, it remains blank when the display comes back. However the "Displays" utility says that it is in use. Previously I avoided the problem by turning off the screen-savers and leaving the monitors turned on 24 hours a day, but I have just installed Debian (instead of Mint) and the problem has come back. Any ideas where to start to solve this, please? -- Oliver Elphick Lincolnshire, England
Re: Dual monitor problems
On 25/06/13 12:34, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 25 iun 13, 06:56:14, Oliver Elphick wrote: I am trying to use two monitors at once, for the first time, using an Nvidia dual head card. I have now got the two monitors displaying a single screen and the mouse passes from one to the other. However, the second screen blanks after around 20 seconds of non-use and nothing will bring it back to life. I can pass the mouse into it, or select a window that is on it, but it remains black. The only exception is that it will restore when the screen is locked and I enter my password to unlock it. Sounds like screensaver or similar. Based on your description I would guess you are using the separate screens setup, but more information about this, the driver and the desktop environment you are using would be necessary to help you. Thanks Andrei. Package release level is 2:1.12.4-6 (amd64). The primary screen works OK, the new, smaller one (DP-0, Monitor1) is the problem. The primary is connected with a DVI cable, the second is connected with a DVI/RGB adapter. This is the xorg.conf: Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen Screen0 Screen Screen1 RightOf Screen0 Option DontVTSwitch Off Option DontZap Off EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Mirai ModelName DML-522W100 Option DPMS Option Primary Option Position 0 0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor1 VendorName Relisys ModelName TL765-RU Option DPMS Option Rightof Monitor0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation Option Monitor-DFP-1 Monitor0 Option Monitor-CRT-0 Monitor1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Device0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Device0 MonitorMonitor1 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection $ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 2960 x 1050, maximum 8192 x 8192 DP-0 connected 1280x1024+1680+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 338mm x 270mm 1280x1024 60.0*+ 75.0 1280x960 75.0 70.0 60.0 1152x864 75.0 70.0 60.0 1024x768 75.0 70.1 60.0 800x60075.0 72.2 60.3 56.2 640x48075.0 72.8 59.9 DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP-3 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 473mm x 296mm 1680x1050 60.0*+ 1440x900 75.0 59.9 1360x765 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1280x960 60.0 1280x720 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 70.1 60.0 800x60075.0 72.2 60.3 56.2 640x48075.0 72.8 59.9 DP-4 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP-5 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajyqwwqp2mb4wh2zuavk1cuigcu3d33fkv7u-mmqekybecj...@mail.gmail.com
Dual monitor problems
I am trying to use two monitors at once, for the first time, using an Nvidia dual head card. I have now got the two monitors displaying a single screen and the mouse passes from one to the other. However, the second screen blanks after around 20 seconds of non-use and nothing will bring it back to life. I can pass the mouse into it, or select a window that is on it, but it remains black. The only exception is that it will restore when the screen is locked and I enter my password to unlock it. Where should I look? Debian version: sid, recently updated Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51c922ee.8060...@lfix.co.uk
Re: Problems with CD insertion - sid
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 22:31 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: ...I'd try installing cdtool, and see if it plays with that. Yes, it does. The position is that udev recognises when an audio CD is inserted or ejected and it updates the symlinks. Programs that can be told what drive to use can see and access the CD. The problem is that Gnome (?) does not recognise that the CD has been inserted and so does not initiate the program to play it. Rhythmbox needs that same notification to tell it to put the CD device into the sidebar and thus make it accessible, so rhythmbox cannot be used at all with an audio CD. Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371806284.3409.0.camel@ruth
Re: Problems with CD insertion - sid
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 10:32 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 18 iun 13, 07:55:51, Oliver Elphick wrote: When a CD is inserted, it does not get mounted (data CD) or properly notified (audio CD). ... I don't know where the problem resides. Which package should I be looking at? You should start by telling us what Desktop Environment you are using. Kind regards, Andrei Sorry. Gnome 3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371544040.8800.0.ca...@linda.lfix.co.uk
Re: Problems with CD insertion - sid
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 20:31 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: For a start: Does eject -T open/close the drive? 'eject /dev/sr0' opens it (once unmounted), and -t closes it. -T gives an I/O error Any error messages in /var/log/syslog? No Does udevadm trigger help? --verbose gives a long list of stuff. But I'm not currently familiar with udev; I don't see anything immediately relevant. What options should I use, or what should I expect to see in that list? Something updates the symbolic links /dev/cdrom1 /dev/cdrw1 /dev/dvd1 and /dev/dvdrw1 when a disk is inserted or ejected. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371553934.8800.11.ca...@linda.lfix.co.uk
Re: Problems with CD insertion - sid
First, I was wrong about it's not mounting the data CD. I was looking in the wrong place. So it is only about audio CDs. When one is inserted: $ sudo udisks --monitor-detail Monitoring activity from the disks daemon. Press Ctrl+C to cancel. changed: /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sr0 Showing information for /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sr0 native-path: /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:07.0/ata2/host1/target1:0:0/1:0:0:0/block/sr0 device: 11:0 device-file: /dev/sr0 presentation: /dev/sr0 by-id: /dev/disk/by-id/ata-TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S223C_R41368DB120810 by-path: /dev/disk/by-path/pci-:00:07.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 detected at: Tue 18 Jun 2013 15:30:23 CEST system internal: 0 removable: 1 has media: 0 detects change:1 detection by polling: 1 detection inhibitable: 1 detection inhibited: 0 is read only:0 is mounted: 0 mount paths: mounted by uid: 0 presentation hide: 0 presentation nopolicy: 0 presentation name: presentation icon: automount hint: size:0 block size: 0 job underway:no usage: type: version: uuid: label: drive: vendor:TSSTcorp model: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C revision: SB06 serial:R41368DB120810 WWN: detachable:0 can spindown: 0 rotational media: Yes, unknown rate write-cache: disabled ejectable: 1 adapter: Unknown ports: similar devices: media: compat: optical_cd optical_cd_r optical_cd_rw optical_dvd optical_dvd_plus_r optical_dvd_plus_r_dl optical_dvd_plus_rw optical_dvd_r optical_dvd_ram optical_dvd_rw interface: scsi if speed: (unknown) ATA SMART: not available As far as I can see, then, the problem is further on in the chain that leads to a media player's being started. How does udev notify gnome that something has happened? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371563772.26431.1.camel@ruth
Problems with CD insertion - sid
When a CD is inserted, it does not get mounted (data CD) or properly notified (audio CD). I found that rhythmbox never showed an audio CD as available to play - it should come up under devices on the left-hand sidebar. I then tried setting the system to run VLC instead, using System Settings. Still nothing happens when a CD is inserted. (But VLC can play the CD if directed to.) I found that a data CD is not mounted when it is inserted; I had to mount it manually. The Debian version is sid - up-to-date. I don't know where the problem resides. Which package should I be looking at? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371534951.4856.6.ca...@linda.lfix.co.uk
Re: plusieurs serveurs Postgres : accès par libpq ?
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 09:10 +0200, Frédéric BOITEUX wrote: Le mer 17 oct 2007 23:07:37 CEST, Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Enveloppe tout dans un script : Ok, j'hésitais à faire ainsi, mais puisqu'il n'y a pas (pour l'instant ?) d'alternative, je vais suivre le conseil. Je crois que jusqu'à présent personne n'a jamais demander l'API C pour les clusters. On peut le contribuer... -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: plusieurs serveurs Postgres : accès par libpq ?
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:04 +0200, Frédéric BOITEUX wrote:
Bonjour,
Sur une machine Debian Etch, j'ai plusieurs serveurs Postgresql (en
différentes versions) qui gèrent chacun des bases de données. Pour un
utilisateur, il a le choix entre plusieurs serveurs, comme on peut le
voir avec la commande pg_lsclusters. Je peux sélectionner le bon
« cluster » dans des commandes comme psql (avec l'option « --cluster
version/nom de la base », mais en revanche, je n'y arrive pas dans
un programme C lié à la bibliothèque libpq : en effet, je n'ai pas
trouvé l'équivalent dans l'API C de l'option --cluster... C'est sans
doute normal vu que c'est un ajout de Debian, mais j'aimerais savoir
comment accéder à une base précise avec cette bibliothèque libpq ?
Il faut trouver le port de chaque cluster. Il n'y a pas de fonction
bibliothèque pour accéder aux clusters ; alors, on doit utiliser une
commande convenable, telle que :
pg_lsclusters | grep '^version *cluster ' | awk '{print $3}'
On peut appeler son programme avec le resultat de cette commande comme
port. Sans doute, le programme aura une option pour ça. Dans le
programme il faut passer le port au PQconnectdb(). Enveloppe tout dans
un script :
#!/bin/bash
VERSION=$1
CLUSTER=$2
mon_programme -p $( pg_lsclusters |
grep ^$VERSION *$CLUSTER |
awk '{print $3}' )
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Re: Commande sync
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 00:46 +0200, Sylvain Sauvage wrote: Franck Joncourt, mercredi 1 août 2007, 00:12:50 CEST Bonsoir, ’soir, On avait, il y a déja quelques temps parlé sur cette liste de comment faire pour vider les caches du systèmes. On en était arrivé à : # sync ; sync ; sync ; echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches Je m'étais demandé pourquoi il fallait flusher 3 fois les buffers avec la commande sync. [...] Pour que le système comprenne bien ce que l’on veut ;o) Faire lentement trois sync et attendre est une vieille habitude transmise de sysadmin en sysadmin. Peut-être y avait-il une autre raison que celle de passer le temps (p.ex. que le nombre de sync empilés était compté quelque part dans un vieil unix (ou pire)) mais je ne vois absolument aucune autre raison de nos jours. Vois içi pour la bonne expliquation : http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/TheLegendOfSync En bref, il y a longtemps, il fallait faire sync pour flusher les buffers [ c'est vraiment Français ?], mais celà ne se passait pas immédiatement. Alors, on faisait la commande plusieurs fois, lentement, comme ceçi : sync sync sync reboot Si on aurait fait sync ; sync ; sync ; reboot il ne faudrait pas assez de temps. De nos jours, ce n'est plus necessaire. Un seul sync est bien assez. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: Configuration DNS avec Bind 9
On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 01:41 +0200, Thibaut LE LEVIER wrote: Salut à tous je revient avec mon petit souci de DNS je viens de m'apercevoir que lorsque que je change d'adresse IP trop souvent (plusieurs coupures ce soir) toutes les machines qui se servent de mon serveur DNS ne charge pas les pages du premier coup je suppose donc que c'est la zone . qui pose problème quelqu'un a-t-il déjà eu ce type de problème? C'est que les définitions DNS durent quelques temps et sont stockées jusqu'à ce qu'ils expirent. Tu ne peux pas changer ça, parce que les serveurs de noms de domaines ne liseront plus tes nouvelles définitions pendant que les vielles sont stockées. Tu ne contrôles pas les serveurs d'autres! Tu peux changer les paramètres de SOA afin de réduire la duration de stockage, mais je pense que ça ne va pas toucher les serveurs qui ont déja lu tes définitions. $TTL 1d @ IN SOA cerberus.lfix.co.uk. olly.lfix.co.uk. ( 23 ; Serial 604800 ; Refresh 86400 ; Retry 2419200 ; Expire 604800 ) ; Default TTL Le paramètre à changer est $TTL pour BIND 9. Concernant Default TTL ( minimum ): min = minimum -- Signed 32 bit value in seconds. RFC 2308 (implemented by BIND 9) redefined this value to be the negative caching time - the time a NAME ERROR = NXDOMAIN record is cached. The maximum value allowed by BIND 9 for this parameter is 3 hours (10800 seconds). This value was (in BIND 4 and 8) used by any RR from the zone that did not specify an explicit TTL i.e. the zone default TTL. BIND 9 uses the $TTL directive as the zone default TTL (and which was also standarized in RFC 2308). You may find older documentation or zone file configurations which reflect the old usage (there there are still a lot of BIND 4 sites operational). -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html
Re: shorewall
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 10:00 +0200, mess-mate wrote: Bonjour, j'ai installé shorewall sur mon routeur/proxy, mais j'arrive pas à l'installer convenablement sur une machine derrière ce routeur/shorewall/squid (etch). Pourquoi veux-tu installer shorewall sur une autre machine ? On l'installe seulement sur le routeur, je crois. C'est l'organisation que j'ai fait ici, laquelle marche tout à fait bien. Le routeur a Etch et shorewall, la carte ADSL et aussi une carte ethernet. Toutes les autres machines sont derrière le routeur. Elles n'ont pas shorewall du tout. C'est le comble :( Surtout le https me pose problèmes. Le routeur est le coupe-feu qui reçoit tous les paquets de l'internet. Sur le coupe-feu on peut dévier certains paquets à autres machines. On peut dévier les paquets https à une machine derrière la coupe-feu, par example. Il faut expliquer ce que tu veux faire exactement. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html
Re: shorewall
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 10:04 +0200, mess-mate wrote: Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Le routeur est le coupe-feu qui reçoit tous les paquets de l'internet. | Sur le coupe-feu on peut dévier certains paquets à autres machines. On | peut dévier les paquets https à une machine derrière la coupe-feu, par | example. | | Il faut expliquer ce que tu veux faire exactement. | Tout simplement protéger également les machines derrière le routeur. Ceci avec shorewall afin de rester partout avec la même application. En se qui concerne le https, je puis accéder depuis les machines derrière le routeur au routeur mais pas depuis le routeur vers les machines. Ces machines n'ont pas de firewall pour l'instant. On protège les autres machines avec un coupe-feu seul -- c'est le routeur. Les règles de Shorewall ( /etc/shorewall/rules ) contrôlent les paquets qui viennent du web au coupe-feu, du coupe_feu aux autres machines, des autres machines au coupe-feu, etc. Il faut simplement écrire les bons règles pour faire ce que tu veux, à moins que tu ne veuilles pas protéger une machine contre une autre derrière le coupe-feu. Par example, pour contrôler les paquets ssh : # # Accept SSH connections between the local network and firewall # ACCEPT fw loc tcp 22 ACCEPT loc fw tcp 22 # and from the net to the firewall ACCEPT net fw tcp 22 Alors, pour que l'on accède depuis le routeur vers les autres machines avec https : ACCEPT fw loc tcp 443 ACCEPT fw loc udp 443 -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html
Cours de français [ Re: Comment utiliser compose ]
Merci à tous pour votre assistance. -On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 18:34 +0200, Sylvain Sauvage wrote: Au clavier azerty il y a le caractère ù ; est-ce qu'on jamais utilise ça en français ? [petite correction : Sur le clavier azerty, il y a le caractère ù ; est-ce que l’on ne l’utilise jamais en français ? ] Merci de la correction. 1. Sur au lieu de à je comprends. 2. J'ai voulu dire (en anglais) Is that ever used in French? mais je traduirais ton expression comme Is that never used in French? ou Does no one ever use that in French? ce qui ne veut pas dire la même chose exactement. Je lis dans le dictionnaire A-t-il jamais vécu à l'étranger ? ce qui est traduit Has he ever lived abroad? Alors j'ai pensé que c'est possible de dire jamais sans ne. En anglais, la forme avec never suggère de la surprise; avec ever c'est plutôt une demande d'information simplement. 3. Est-ce qu'il y a une règle de quand utiliser on ou l'on ? Une autre question : Je vois que dans cette liste-ci on tutoie tout le monde. Mais ce n'est pas normale partout ? Je pense que je dois toujours vouvoyer les gens que je rencontre ailleurs ? ( C'est quelque chose très difficile pour les Anglais, parce que nous avons seulement you. ) -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html
Re: Cours de français [ Re: Comment utiliser compose ]
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 11:54 +0200, on4hu wrote: tu as quel clavier AZERTY ? il y en as une très longue série le clavier Français latin9 utilise comme 1ère ligne: ²é'(-è_çà)= sur le mien qui est un clavier Français j'ai aussi le ù mais le à existe aussi André ON4HU Oui, c'est comme le tien. Je l'ai acheté a Le Clerc ou Intermarché le dernier fois que j'etais en France. Je n'avais jamais eu un clavier avec dead-keys; alors je ne savais pas d'abord comment les utiliser. En fait j'ai maintenant deux claviers - un anglais et un français - et je peux choisir lequel est plus convenable. Est-ce que le tien produit les caractères et avec la touche à côté de W ? Le mien produit \ et |. En Gnome j'ai définé une spécification de clavier (? = keyboard model ) de 105 touches ( Logitech Internet Navigator Keyboard ). Ce n'est pas la bonne pour le clavier français, mais je ne peut pas faire des différences entre ça et l'anglais ( c'est une faute de gnome-keyboard-properties ). Aussi, je ne sais pas quel spécification je devrais choisir pour le français si je pouvais les faire. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html
Comment utiliser compose pour produire l'accent circonflexe ?
J'ai maintenant un clavier azerty avec quelques caractères qu'on n'utilise pas en anglais. Alors, é, è, à et ç sont faciles. Mais comment faire â, ê, î, ô et û (et les majuscules aussi) ? J'ai définé le clé Win comme Compose, mais je ne sais pas quels caractères je dois mettre après lui. (Maintenant j'ai trouvé les minuscules, mais pas les majuscules.) Est-ce que quelq'un peut me donner une liste de toutes les combinaisons, s'il vous plaît ? Au clavier azerty il y a le caractère ù ; est-ce qu'on jamais utilise ça en français ? -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html
Re: Installation automatisée : partitionnement
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 15:54 +0200, Olivier Gigondan wrote:
Bonjour,
je met au point un cd d'installation automatique de debian au moyen de
preseed.
J'ai un problème avec le partitionnement personnalisé.
Je lui indique un schéma, mais celui-ci n'a pas l'aire de convenir au
système.
j'ai le message d'erreur suivant :
-
Pas de système de fichiers racine :
Aucun système de fichiers n'a été choisi comme racine
Je n'ai jamais utilisé ce système, mais peut-être tu dois définer la
partition racine avant des autres. Tu l'as définée après /boot.
Veuillez corriger cela à partir du menu de partitionnement.
-
Voici ma partie de code pour le partitionnement :
-
#Partitionnement
#selection du disque
d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/discs/disc0/disc
#méthode LVM
d-i partman-auto/method string lvm
#Pour enlever les éventuels avertissements
d-i partman-auto/purge_lvm_from_device boolean true
d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true
d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string \
boot-root ::\
40 50 100 ext3 \
$primary{ } $bootable{ }\
method{ format } format{ } \
use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ ext3 }\
mountpoint{ /boot } \
. \
500 1000 1000 ext3 \
method{ format } format{ } \
use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ ext3 }\
mountpoint{ / } \
. \
64 512 300% linux-swap \
method{ swap } format{ }\
.
#Confirmation pour le partitionnement
d-i partman/confirm_write_new_label boolean true
d-i partman/choose_partition \
select Finish partitioning and write changes to disk
d-i partman/confirm boolean true
-
De plus auriez-vous des précisions sur les données concernant les
tailles de partition les nombres à mettre avant le type de système de
fichiers ?
D'après ce que j'ai compris c'est les tailles mini et maxi des
partitions, ainsi que la priorité. Mais à quoi cela correspond-il ?
Indiquer une taille mini et maxi induit-elle une notion de dynamisme ?
Peut-on mettre deux fois la même valeur afin que les tailles soient fixes ?
Toute aide sera la bienvenue :)
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Re: outil graphique pour relations d'1 db
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 12:31 +0200, De Leeuw Guy wrote: Bonjour Qqun connaîtrait il un outil graphique pour représenter les relations d'une db postgres ? On peut utiliser le paquet de Debian postgresql-autodoc, ce qui peut construire les schemas à lire avec dia. Il faut réviser les schemas après les avoir créés, parce que postgresql-autodoc dispose tous les tables à la même position. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html
Re: Crontab et permissions
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 15:28 +0200, fabrice test wrote: Bonjour, J'ai un petit souci de compréhension sous une debian sarge avec l'utilisation de crontab. Mon objectif était simple : limiter son usage à root. Pour ce faire, j'avais créé le fichier /etc/cron.allow en indiquant root. Puis positionné les droits sur ce fichier en 640, et propriétaire root:root. Après un premier test, je me suis aperçu que n'importe quel utilisateur pouvait utiliser crontab (sans appartenir au groupe crontab) et qu'il n'y avait aucune prise en compte du fichier cron.allow. Je précise que /etc/cron.deny n'existe pas. Je me suis aperçu que je devais repasser les persmission en 644 sur ce dernier pour que la limitation soit prise en compte. Alors, j'ai du mal à saisir le fonctionnement global. Il semblerait que sous debian, si ce fichier n'existe pas alors tout le monde peut utiliser crontab. - Existe t il un moyen de faire l inverse. Que s il n'existe pas alors seul root peut utiliser crontab ? - D'autre part le daemon cron tourne sous le compte root. Avec un ps aux, le compte utilisateur est root. Comment n'arrive t il pas à lire le fichier cron.allow en permission 640 ou 600. Je ne comprends pas non plus l'utilité du group Crontab et le SGID sur /usr/bin/crontab si par défaut tout utilisateur peut utiliser crontab. C'est parce que crontab (le logiciel) a seulement tes droits quand tu l'utilise, pas ceux de root. Alors, crontab ne peut pas lire le fichier. Il faut le donner les droits 644 pour que crontab puisse le lire. Ce logiciel est seulement un commodité pour l'utilisateur, qui donc n'a pas besoin de trouver le bon fichier. [Je suis Anglais, mais je vais m'installer en Bretagne bientôt. Si je fais des bêtises en français, dites-moi s'il vous plait tout le monde, pour que je puisse le parler mieux.] -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html
Re: postgresql installation
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 18:17 -0500, Tom Allison wrote: OK, I'm just getting stuck on something regarding getting this postgresql started up. For starters, there's no way I seem able to make a localhost tcp_ip connection. postgresql.conf tcpip_socket = true port = 5432 pg_hba.conf local all postgres ident sameuser local all all ident sameuser hostall all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 md5 hostall all ::1 :::::::md5 Did you reload the postmaster after changing this? su -c /etc/init.d/postgresql reload I went into the template1 database and set my password for my username so that I could make connections from localhost. I'm not certain about this 'md5' thing. I set the password to match foo and not the md5_hex version of foo. I'm assuming that this is not a problem... But maybe it's a bad assumption. md5 means that the password is compared in md5 format. To set the password, connect to template1 as postgres using a local connection (do not specify any host) and: ALTER USER username WITH PASSWORD 'newpassword'; now you should be able to connect using that password: psql -d template1 -h localhost -U username -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C++: Math function round() does not compile - why?
I am trying to use the math function round() according to the manpage,
but it does not compile. Can anyone explain why not, please?
This is a C++ app compiled with g++-2.95 (because the target is a Sharp
Zaurus).
According to man 3 round:
NAME
round, roundf, roundl - round to nearest integer, away from zero
SYNOPSIS
#include math.h
double round(double x);
float roundf(float x);
long double roundl(long double x);
Compile with -std=c99; link with -lm.
The code is:
class OrderImpl : public OrderForm
{
...
double discpc;
...
void calculate_line(int);
...
};
#include math.h
...
void OrderImpl::calculate_line(int newqty)
{
double price = atof(TextLabelPrice-text());
char tmp[20];
sprintf(tmp, %.4f, round((double) newqty * price * discpc) / 100.);
...
}
The command line and error are:
g++-2.95 -c -pipe -DQWS -fexceptions -fno-rtti -Wall -W -g -std=c99
-I/opt/Qtopia/include -o orderimpl.o orderimpl.cpp
orderimpl.cpp: In method `void OrderImpl::calculate_line(int)':
orderimpl.cpp:84: implicit declaration of function `int round(...)'
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Re: Postgresql pg_autovacuum in Sarge?
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 09:08 -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: ... But I don't see what package includes pg_autovacuum. In Sid/Testing it's in postgresql-contrib-7.4, but on Sarge I don't see it in contrib: $ apt-cache show postgresql-contrib | grep vac indicates whether a vacuum is required. space that vacuum does not reclaim vacuumlo - Vacuum deleted large objects Look for the file pg_autovacuum. It is in postgresql-contrib. (There is a temporary replacement for packages.debian.org up at http://pdo.debian.net) -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C++: Math function round() does not compile - why?
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 14:11 +0100, Jan C. Nordholz wrote: Hi Oliver, g++-2.95 -c -pipe -DQWS -fexceptions -fno-rtti -Wall -W -g -std=c99 -I/opt/Qtopia/include -o orderimpl.o orderimpl.cpp orderimpl.cpp: In method `void OrderImpl::calculate_line(int)': orderimpl.cpp:84: implicit declaration of function `int round(...)' this sounds like math.h doesn't give you the prototype for round(). Try to run math.h through the preprocessor alone (g++-2.95 -std=c99 -E /usr/include/math.h), and grep for round. I don't get the definition with g++-3.3 alone, but with g++-3.3 -std=c99 I do... YMMV. I've got no g++-2.95 here to continue the tests. with g++-2.95, this gives no prototypes for round(). So it appears that -std=c99 does not work. Is there some way to achieve this for 2.95? (This is now academic, since I have written my own version for this application.) -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C++: Math function round() does not compile - why? - resolution
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 15:15 +0100, Jan C. Nordholz wrote: Hi, with g++-2.95, this gives no prototypes for round(). So it appears that -std=c99 does not work. Is there some way to achieve this for 2.95? (This is now academic, since I have written my own version for this application.) you could use the features header. Start your source files with #define _ISOC99_SOURCE #include features.h This will toggle the appropriate __USE_* macros (__USE_ISOC99, in this case) that aren't set by the compiler. There are a few other macros you might want to set (_POSIX_SOURCE, or even _GNU_SOURCE), so perhaps you should have a closer look at features.h if you plan to use it directly. Thanks to you and others for that suggestion. Defining _GNU_SOURCE fixes the problem for g++-2.95. -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C++: Math function round() does not compile - why?
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 10:54 -0600, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: hmmm, have you tried to add the -lm ??? i was thinking the same, but it looks as though he is only compiling, not linking, so one would think that '-lm' would have no impact. That's right; the -c option was used. This is just one module of many, with the compilation of each module called from a makefile. -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Source
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 10:38 +, Bob wrote: ...So I decided to install the kernel source, but I can't find a package for it? Am I missing something here, or can I not download the 2.6.x kernel source via apt...? On sid, the packages are now called linux-source-2.6.x rather than kernel-source-2.6.x. I think that will apply to etch as well. Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unsure about security requirements for workstation/server
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 20:03 +1100, Yasir Assam wrote: ... I know that for production servers only the Stable distribution is recommended and as little software as possible should be installed. But as a workstation, I'd like to install Unstable and a lot more software on it than I would on a pure server (e.g. Gnome/KDE, GIMP and loads of other stuff that I like to play around with). What should I do? Is it possible to run Unstable in a secure fashion? I know the security team focuses on releasing security updates to Stable first, but doesn't Unstable get the updates soon after? unstable is most likely to get the updates first, if the same version is being used, because the security team will then need to check the changes. If it is a different version the security updates may be irrelevant and you will depend on having problems promptly fixed by the package maintainers. As a compromise, you could install testing, which will be some way behind unstable, but somewhat less likely to contain serious problems. For security of your internet connection, install a firewall such as shorewall (Debian package) and configure it very restrictively. Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP forwarding problem
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 14:52 +, Oliver Elphick wrote: Can anyone help with this network problem, please? This machine is an internal router, with two network cards. iptables is not configured in the kernel, since masquerading and filtering is not required. (There is a separate firewall machine.) 192.168.2 (eth0) is a network with Windows machines. Packets to and from that network are no longer being forwarded. The routing table appears to be correct and IP forwarding is turned on. Machines on 192.168.2.* are able to ping 192.168.1.18 (the other network card on the routing machine) but they cannot ping any other machine on the 192.168.1 network. Similarly, the router can ping 192.168.2.* but no other machine on 192.168.1 can do so. This set up was working until it was shut down and rebooted :-( To close this thread for the benefit of readers of the archives, the problem was that the routing table on the main gateway did not have an entry for the 192.168.2.0 network. All the server machines had been shut down and rebooted together because the UPS batteries had to be replaced. It seems that the gateway machine came up before the internal router and was unable to add a route for 192.168.2.0 because the router was not yet responding. Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP forwarding problem
Can anyone help with this network problem, please? This machine is an internal router, with two network cards. iptables is not configured in the kernel, since masquerading and filtering is not required. (There is a separate firewall machine.) 192.168.2 (eth0) is a network with Windows machines. Packets to and from that network are no longer being forwarded. The routing table appears to be correct and IP forwarding is turned on. Machines on 192.168.2.* are able to ping 192.168.1.18 (the other network card on the routing machine) but they cannot ping any other machine on the 192.168.1 network. Similarly, the router can ping 192.168.2.* but no other machine on 192.168.1 can do so. This set up was working until it was shut down and rebooted :-( Kernel 2.6.13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.140.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:81:2E:17:30 inet addr:192.168.2.1 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:81ff:fe2e:1730/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:29786 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:17333 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:3292835 (3.1 MiB) TX bytes:3704290 (3.5 MiB) Interrupt:153 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:81:2E:17:31 inet addr:192.168.1.18 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:81ff:fe2e:1731/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2202383 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1480881 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:524809613 (500.4 MiB) TX bytes:358879507 (342.2 MiB) Interrupt:161 Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP forwarding problem
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 12:31 -0600, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 14:52 +, Oliver Elphick wrote: Can anyone help with this network problem, please? This machine is an internal router, with two network cards. iptables is not configured in the kernel, since masquerading and filtering is not required. (There is a separate firewall machine.) 192.168.2 (eth0) is a network with Windows machines. Packets to and from that network are no longer being forwarded. The routing table appears to be correct and IP forwarding is turned on. how are you turning forwarding on? $ cat /etc/network/options ip_forward=yes spoofprotect=yes syncookies=no what does: # sysctl -a | grep forward list? ie: # sysctl -a | grep forward net.ipv4.conf.eth1.mc_forwarding = 0 ... net.ipv4.conf.eth0.mc_forwarding = 0 net.ipv4.conf.eth0.forwarding = 1 net.ipv4.conf.eth1.mc_forwarding = 0 net.ipv4.conf.eth1.forwarding = 1 net.ipv4.conf.default.mc_forwarding = 0 net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding = 1 net.ipv4.conf.all.mc_forwarding = 0 net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding = 1 net.ipv4.conf.lo.mc_forwarding = 0 net.ipv4.conf.lo.forwarding = 1 net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 That's the same as yours, bar sorting. Machines on 192.168.2.* are able to ping 192.168.1.18 (the other network card on the routing machine) but they cannot ping any other machine on the 192.168.1 network. Similarly, the router can ping 192.168.2.* but no other machine on 192.168.1 can do so. This set up was working until it was shut down and rebooted :-( sometimes after a kernel upgrade or a reboot physical interfaces will be renamed by the kernel. that will screw things up, but if you can ping interfaces from the clients that doesnt sound like the problem, just thought i would mention it. I can't see that that is a factor here. -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get upgrade fails due to kernel-image problem
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 12:43 +0100, gregory duchesnes wrote: Hi all, I have a problem with apt-get when upgrading kernel-image, here is what i got : # apt-get upgrade ... utilisant .../kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386_2.6.8-16sarge1_i386.deb) ... The directory /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386 still exists. Continuing as directed. Dépaquetage de la mise à jour de kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 ... dpkg : erreur de traitement de /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386_2.6.8-16sarge1_i386.deb (--unpack) : échec dans « buffer_write(fd) » (8, ret=-1) : backend dpkg-deb pendant « ./lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-emu8000-synth.ko »: Aucun espace disponible sur le périphérique ... Seems like a space problem thouh here is a df -h : Sys. de fich. Tail. Occ. Disp. %Occ. Monté sur /dev/hda1 89M 58M 27M 69% / ... Doesn't look like any of my partitions is full? You have 27Mb available. The size of kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386_2.6.8-16sarge1_i386.deb is over 14Mb which suggests that it will unpack to perhaps 30Mb. I think you need to make more space in your root partition. I remounted /boot rw before the apt-get upgrade (as well as /usr which is remounted automatically through a pre-invoke command in apt.conf) How to solve this? Can i do the --unpack anywhere else than in the default partition? (and where does it unpack by the way?) I think it unpacks into its intended location. I don't know how to make it do anything different through dpkg or apt. I don't use a sound card on this computer, can i remove this module (safely and how?) You could just delete it from /lib/... but that won't help you much because you can't do that until _after_ it has been unpacked. You can unpack the .deb file manually cd /some/path ar x /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386_2.6.8-16sarge1_i386.deb That will give you a control tar archive and a data tar archive. Unpack the data archive and you should have the filetree that would be installed. Oliver Elphick
Re: HELP
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 13:07 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all , I'm very sorry for disturbing you but I had a serious problem when I tried to installing qt3-3.0.4-3.1mdk.src.rpm . I digited rpm -i qt3-3.0.4-3.1mdk.src.rpm and then it compaired : warning: user juanma does not exist - using root warning: group juanma does not exist - using root ... That is a Mandrake source rpm. If you are using a Debian system, there is absolutely no need to install Mandrake rpms of qt, for which there are already Debian packages. If you aren't installing on a Debian system, you are asking the wrong list. Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get upgrade fails due to kernel-image problem
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 14:14 +0100, gregory duchesnes wrote: Do you know where i could find those 3Mb? I don't wnanna break anything and i don't know what i could remove from / It all depends what you have installed. What might be simpler is to swap your /tmp and / partitions: reboot into single user mode unmount all filesystems except /tmp rm -rf /tmp/* cp -a /[A-Z0-9a-su-z]* /tmp cp -a /t* /tmp except for /tmp itself mkdir /tmp/tmp chmod a+trwx /tmp/tmp vi /tmp/etc/fstab and swap the devices for / and /tmp either (if you boot with grub) vi /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the root partition in both (hd0,n) and the root specification to the kernel, or (if you use lilo) vi /etc/lilo.conf and change the root partition and then (very important) run lilo to rewrite the boot sector reboot (note that the boot clearance of /tmp will now delete all your old root partition files, so it is vital to make sure that everything in /tmp is correct before you do this) You should now have your root partition in a 449M partition and your other problem will have gone away. Of course, if you get it wrong you could have wrecked your system... Oliver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get upgrade fails due to kernel-image problem
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 09:08 -0500, Michael Marsh wrote: On 12/16/05, gregory duchesnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know where i could find those 3Mb? I don't wnanna break anything and i don't know what i could remove from / Have you tried apt-get clean? That empties /var/cache/apt, but he already has /var in a separate partition. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get upgrade fails due to kernel-image problem
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 15:11 +0100, gregory duchesnes wrote: Yes i did, didn't help. Listen guys, i have 36Mb of modules in /lib/modules, what would happen if i erase (or just move for the moment) modules that i'm sure i don't need, like (isdn drivers)? No problem. IF they aren't used, they are just taking up space. If they are used (check with lsmod) that bit of your kernel stops working. Oliver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get upgrade fails due to kernel-image problem
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 15:25 +0100, gregory duchesnes wrote:
Is there a quick way to get the list of modules and drivers i can erase?
Try this script:
#!/bin/bash
export module
for m in $(find /lib/modules -name '*.ko')
do
module=$(basename $(basename $m) .ko)
if [ -z $((echo $module
lsmod | tail --lines=+2 |
awk '{print $1}') | sort | uniq -d) ]
then
echo $m
fi
done
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Re: How to install debian on an external hard disk drive
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 08:10 -0700, Bob A wrote: Hi, Im greatly interested in learning linux and wish to install debian distribution onto an external disk drive. Here are my machine specifications: Processor: Pentium4 Existing OS: Windows XP Home edition 120GB external hard disk Please help me regarding the steps to follow to partition my external hard disk, setup the boot loader to direct it to external hard drive and basic steps for installing debian through the internet. Boot from a Debian CD. If the installation program can see the external drive, you simply choose that one to install on; if you allow it to do so, it will construct its own default partitioning scheme. If it cannot see the external drive, you will need to load the appropriate drivers. Since you don't say how your drive is connected, I can't say what they would be. If the BIOS does not see the drive as a boot option, you may have to write a boot CD with a kernel and initial root image (initrd) on it. Once you have a system that can boot into Debian, you can install further packages over the net. -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian can't connect to internet gateway
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 23:01 -0700, Dan wrote: Hi, I have a debian box (192.168.2.12) that acts as a dhcp server ... I want the debian box to connect through the internet gateway also. Right now, I can only get the debian box to connect to the internet through pppoe. Any suggestions? cat /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf -- ... option routers 192.168.2.1; ... cat /etc/network/interfaces -- ... auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.2.12 network 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.2.255 Don't you need a line here to specify the router? gateway 192.168.2.1 Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postgresql encoding
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 12:08 -0400, Tony Heal wrote: I have just upgraded my distro from woody to sarge and postgresql's encoding got messed up. Is there a way to change the encoding of a database without dumping and recreating it? I also need to change the default decoding of postgresql. It is set to SQL_ASCII and I want to change it to UNICODE No. You have to dump and reload. -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Y or I, N or O
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 10:49 +0100, Joseph Haig wrote: When upgrading with apt-get upgrade I get the option to install a new configuration file or keep the existing one. The options are Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version Now, I know that with either Y or I and N or O, both old and new versions of the file are saved, but it doesn't say which! Which of N or O do I need to use to save a copy of the new file? Either. If you choose Y, the existing configuration file will be saved as filename.dpkg-old and replaced by the package's version. If you choose N, the existing configuration file will be left untouched and the new version will be saved in the same directory under the name filename.dpkg-dist (or filename.dpkg-new). -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6Gb of invisible files, or what?
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:52 -0400, Angelo Bertolli wrote: Juha Pahkala wrote: Angelo Bertolli wrote: No, actually Oliver was 100% correct, I somehow had some dvb recordings under one of my nfs mount points and they took up the space that didn't show up using du. Ok, I guess I don't understand why df would report such high disk usage. Does it have something to do with nfs caching data locally or something? df reports from the device what space is available and what is used. du examines the filesystem. When another filesystem is mounted on a mountpoint, the portion of the original filesystem below the mount point is concealed by the newly mounted filesystem. The two utilities are answering different questions. Because of the different ways they work, du cannot answer the question How much space is left? and df cannot answer the question How much of the used space is visible in the filesystem? -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6Gb of invisible files, or what?
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 17:44 +0300, Juha Pahkala wrote: But today I found out, that out of my 10Gb root partition df only shows around 300Mb free! So, I started looking and trying to find out what took all this disk space. But I didn't get very far. As previously, I used du on all the directories on root level / to see, which directory was excessively large. But using du, I only managed to find a bit under 4Gb of files! And now I'm wondering where the difference comes from and what can I do about it? Can anybody help me here, to free up some disk space, to help me understand what's going on? Do you have any extra partitions mounted? If so, any contents of the mount directories will be concealed (but will still take space, of course). Unmount all filesystems except root and check that the mount directories are empty (don't forget about hidden files -- use ls -a). -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie --Admin access problem on KDE... HELP!!
On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 00:45 -0400, Faithful John wrote: Hi all, I'm a relative newbie who's been using the debian sarge. I recently have been trying to install kubuntu on my friends laptop. She wants to use linux as a primary system (she doesn't like micro$oft). Anyway, when I was installing kubuntu off a disc, the network connections did not set up properly. Anyway, I have no connection to the internet on that laptop and so I am having lots of trouble updating the thing. I don't even have admin access. I know it's a bug with KDE, and it's been reported, but I can't make any sense of the advice people give. Either it doesn't seem to work, or there isn't enough information for a newbie to follow the instructions. When I try to do something to change the network settings, I can't seem to log in as the administrator to do that. I don't even know where to start to get it going, especially since I can't get admin access. Selam To get admin access, you need to log in as root, for which you will need the root password you set up when asked. Since you talk of a bug in KDE, you would probably do better not to use the graphical screen, so: press Ctrl+Alt+F1 that should take you out of the graphical screen and display the first virtual terminal (a black and white screen). If you don't see a login prompt, press return a couple of times until it appears. In response to the login prompt, enter root In response to the password prompt, enter the root password you set up Now type ifconfig which will show you what network connections there are. There should always be one called lo, which is the loopback interface (for the machine to talk to itself. If that is the only one, you need to set up the network connection; unfortunately, just what you need to do to accomplish that depends on what went wrong. To start with, you need a stanza in /etc/network/interfaces to describe the connection. It will look something like this: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.18 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.14 The address and gateway addresses and the prefix of network and broadcast will depend on your local setup. address is the address of the machine you are setting up and gateway is the machine that is connected to the internet. If you want to use DHCP to get an address automatically, it will be different - sorry, I haven't got an example here. If you have that, try typing ifup eth0 That may either work or show other errors - see how far you get. Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ktechlab on sarge
On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 07:16 +0100, debian wrote: Please, there are no packages for ktechlab. So I download the debs from : http://ktechlab.fadedminds.com/download/deb/ dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libgtkextra: libgtkextra depends on libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.6.0); however: Package libgtk2.0-0 is not configured yet. and when I try to install libgtk2.0-0 I get still more dependencies problems. When I try to install these depended-upon packages I get still more dependencies and so on. I am worried that I will either waiste a lot of time and/or screw up other applications on my system. Sorry to be such a coward, but might ktechlab be just too new for my sarge ? Any other advice ? That site says the packages are for sarge, so you should have no problem. First, the site says you need three packages from there: libgtkextra, gpsim and ktechlab. Obviously you need all of them and I presume you have used dpkg to install them all? If that is so, you now want to do: apt-get update # to get any security updates apt-get -u -f install which will sort out the mess. The -u option ensures that it tells you what it is going to do before it starts deleting or overwriting stuff you want to keep. Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re:
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 01:27 -0500, Kent West wrote: Prabu Subroto wrote: Dear my friends... I want each user of a desktop can shutdown the desktop after they are finished with their job on the desktop. Till now only root can do shutdown. How can I do to make the non-root user can shutdown and reboot a debian box. Thank you very much in advance. Depends on how X is being started: startx? xdm? gdm? I believe kdm allows this behaviour by default; if you don't mind switching, that might be the easiest fix. If it's gdm, the availablility of this feature is controlled by options in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf: SystemMenu and SecureSystemMenu -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where is autologout control in sarge / gnome?
I have a computer which is kept at current stable release. Since it was upgraded to sarge, it has taken to doing an autologout from an X session after an hour or so of inactivity. Where is this controlled from? I can't find a control for it in Gnome nor in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh are not included in the binary distribution
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 11:16 +0530, Sourabh Bora wrote: hi, I have been trying to install some packages from source(scotty 2.1.11 being one of them). I have got tcl/tk 8.4 installed (using apt-get). Now when I run './configure ' an error is reported saying that tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh are not found. Hence I am unable to install such packages. I need help on this... thank you You should find it in the tcl8.4-dev binary package, at /usr/lib/tcl8.4/tclConfig.sh -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compile kernel for remote machine
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 08:34 +0200, Brent Clark wrote: Hi all Would anyone know how I can compile a kernel for my remote machine on my machine. ... Baring in mind they are both debian machine and both running 2.6 kernel and both running testing. Since they are both Debian machines, you should install kernel-package and use it to make debs of the kernel image that can be installed like any other package. apt-get install kernel-package cd .../kernel-source-2.6.x make-kpkg --revision=1 --append-to-version=.remote kernel-image This makes the package ../kernel-image-2.6.x.remote_1_xxx.deb which you can install on your remote machine. (--append-to-version is optional, but lets you distinguish a kernel image targetted on your remote machine from any other of a different configuration.) Things would be more complicated if the remote machine had a different architecture. Oliver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diary with encryption
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 06:57:53AM +0200, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote: Hi, I am looking for an application which can store my notes in an _encrypted_ way. Preferably it is GTK+ or console based, and has some development to keep up with the current GTK+ version at least. You can use cfs to make a small encrypted filesystem out of a normal directory; then you can store your diary in the encrypted filesystem. -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two problems: Low resolution and login screen
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 07:40 -0700, Alejandro Salas wrote: Hi everyone, I'm still in 800x600 :-(... I've tried with a couple of different drivers and color depths and nothing. Typically, this would mean that the capabilities of your monitor and videocard are inadequately stated in /etc/X11/XF86Config. When X starts, it tries to find the mode with the closest match to the screen resolution you are asking for; in this case, the best it can do is 800x600. Look at the X startup log to see what it was doing. (The log is in /var/log/XFree86.log.0, I think.) -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup/Restore debian package
On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 04:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there is a way to save/backup debian installed package ? For example i have installed package 'test version 1.0' and i have installed package 'test version 1.1'. For some reasons i want to restore to 'test version 1.0' but i have not 'test.deb' file 'version 1.0'. How can i backup 'test version 1.0' for restore purpose after if needed. Old package versions can possibly be recovered from http://snapshot.debian.net/ -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup/Restore debian package
On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 06:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meaned my own deb packages that are not on the Internet. In that case, if you didn't keep copies of old debs, no-one else can help. -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [networking] Computer can't see the outside world any more
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 11:19 +0100, Gareth Adams wrote: ... Now the strange thing is that, from logging into the server, I can ping any local address except for the DHCP server and the default gateway. I can't ping any global addresses, but this is obviously a symptom of not being able to reach the gateway. Another machine plugged into the same hub as the web server has no problem reaching any address, local or global. ... Where do people think I should start looking? No one here has any idea. How about setting it up with a static IP address and see if it works like that? (The DHCP server can be configured to avoid that address.) You could also try running tcpdump on another machine to see if packets from the web-server appear on the network. -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Do you want to know God? http://www.lfix.co.uk/knowing_god.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to bounce emails selectively with exim?
We get a number of spam mails and viruses sent to us with the sender address spoofed to appear to be from our domain. These get bounced for the appropriate reason (unrouteable address, spam, etc) but if the mail got routed through our ISP, the ISP sends the bounce straight back to me because they think the sender is me (though the received headers show the originating machine is in another domain). For example, here is an unwanted bounce message that has come back to me; the original message was sent from 203.101.34.73, which claimed to be lfix.co.uk, but isn't, of course: A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mailgate.lfix.co.uk [80.177.205.209]: 550 unknown user -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [203.101.34.73] (helo=lfix.co.uk) by relay-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1DlJws-0002cD-O7 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:08:23 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Your Account is Suspended For Security Reasons So if I get a bad email that purports to come from my domain but in fact doesn't, I would like to delete it without responding at all, while still bouncing bad emails that were genuinely sent within the domain. Is there a way to configure exim to do this? Oliver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect and a Recent Experience
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 12:06 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: Today, here at work, I was going to install bittorrent on ta Debian system and I used dselect to list the packages in order to find bittorrent. It found it and I started to install from there except I saw that dselect was also going to whack about the same number of packages here that it did when I was on my system at home. Both are very stable woody-installed systems. Does your /etc/apt/sources.list reference woody or stable? They used to be the same, but now there is a new stable, sarge. So if you reference stable, a lot of your packages are now regarded as obsolete. You should either reference woody explicitly or do a complete upgrade (recommended!) using the instructions in the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/index.en.html Oliver Elphick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome doesn't see user's PATH
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 11:49 -0500, Forrest Smith wrote: Hi all! Does anyone know why apps run from the panel aren't aware of user's environment vars, specifically PATH? Example, if Mutt is executed from my panel, I can't execute commands that are in my PATH. If I run it from a terminal window, I can. The same goes for Emacs. I'm using Gnome 2.8.2 in Sarge. If you are also using gdm, the path it sets is defined in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf (DefaultPath and RootPath) I presume kdm and xdm have similar configuration features. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge problems with MySQL and DBI / DBD::mysql
We have an application that has just upgraded to Debian sarge with mysql
upgrading from 3.23.49 to 4.0.24. As far as I know I have followed all
the procedures for upgrading the database.
Some queries always fail in DBD::mysql (in DBI) although they work OK
with the mysql client.
For example, this SQL command:
SELECT description
FROM IncoCountry
WHERE value = EW;
which returns 0 rows, works correctly in mysql. But when it is passed
through this statement in Perl:
my @row = $dbh-selectrow_array($sql) or
failed(__FILE__, __LINE__,
Failed to run the sql statement with error
$DBI::errstr);
it fails inside DBD::mysql without giving any message in $DBI::errstr:
DBD::mysql::db::prepare(/usr/lib/perl5/DBD/mysql.pm:208):
208:my $sth = DBI::_new_sth($dbh, {'Statement' = $statement});
DB2 n
DBD::mysql::db::prepare(/usr/lib/perl5/DBD/mysql.pm:211):
211:if (!DBD::mysql::st::_prepare($sth, $statement, $attribs)) {
DB2 s
DBD::mysql::db::prepare(/usr/lib/perl5/DBD/mysql.pm:215):
215:$sth;
DB2 s
main::failed(/home/domain/www.chpresenters.co.uk/web/cgi-bin/ocms-multi/common/cgi-lib.pl:117):
If a row is added to the table to be returned by this query, the problem
goes away.
How can I debug or fix this problem, please?
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Re: postgresql
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 10:30 -0500, Steve Roberts wrote: I upgraded my web machine from woody-sparc to serge-sparc. (running on an ultra 5) Postgresql now will not start this is the error I get ERROR: pg_controldata: could not open file /var/lib/postgres/data/global/pg_control for reading: No such file or directory Is that a true message? Or is it a permissions problem? Or should PostgreSQL be looking in some other directory? What happened to the old data during the upgrade? Woody has Pg 7.2.1; sarge has 7.4.6. The data formats are not compatible, so the data have to be dumped and reloaded. This can be attempted automatically, but whether it is or not depends on a debconf setting. If an upgrade was attempted, the old data will probably be in /var/lib/postgres/data.save and /var/lib/postgres/data/PG.VERSION should contain 7.4. If there was no upgrade, PG.VERSION will contain 7.2 and global/pg_control may not exist - I've a feeling that it is elsewhere in 7.2 Found a pre-existing shared memory block (ID 0) still in use. If you're sure there are no old backends still running, remove the shared memory block with ipcrm(1), or just delete /var/lib/postgres/data/postmaster.pid. If you run ipcs -m (as root) do you see any blocks owned by postgres? -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [exim4debian] Re: Debian-exim - blech!
On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 23:35, Marc Haber wrote: I never did understand: what was the problem with mail? First, installing exim4 would probably re-use the account mail which might be assigned to a user. This might grant excessive rights to that user (for example, access rights to the mail queue). mail is and always has been a standard system account: mail:x:8:8:mail:/var/mail:/bin/sh Note the uid of 8 in the system range. It would therefore be impossible to create a user account called mail, because it already exists. If someone is stupid enough to take over the mail account as a private user account, they deserve anything they get. Debian maintainers are not supposed to pervert the system to cope with system administrators who are totally incompetent. Of course your argument applies equally to Debian-exim - it might be assigned to a user; it's quite as likely as that mail might be so assigned. Second, purging exim4 in such a situation could lead to all files belonging to that user to be deleted. Purging exim4 should not cause the deletion of the username nor of files that exim4 did not install. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:19 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [exim4debian] Re: Debian-exim - blech!
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 19:47, Tim Kelley wrote: So we shouldn't purge the mail queue and hints database? Since policy requires a purged package to vanish without leaving any trace of its installation, that would be a policy violation. Huh? There is no such policy. The policy defines purge as removing everything in it's file list except conffiles, and since the package's file list could not possibly contain files created post installation, it cannot delete anything in the system mail directory. purge _does_ remove conffiles as well as the whole filelist. I think it should also remove files created by the package for its own use, but not anything else that might happen to be in the same directory, which Marc seems to think it should do. Of course, there are some packages which definitely should not remove all files that they create, not, at least, without asking; editors and databases, for example. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:19 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [exim4debian] Re: Debian-exim - blech!
On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 21:01, Marc Haber wrote: I believe this was done because there is some Debian policy that a weird user name must be created in this case. No, the weird account name was chosen in absense of a formal policy to minimize the chance of clashes with account names deliberately created by the local admin. I never did understand: what was the problem with mail? -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase; So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine. Proverbs 3:9,10 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: getting full package name
On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 05:18, Craig Jackson wrote: Hi, If I would like to know the name of a package, for example dhcp, installed on the system, I would run dpkg -l | grep dhcp Most of the time I get the right name and I'm happy. But there are times when the name of the package is so long that I cannot tell what the name is. In that situation if grep through the file /var/lib/dpkg/available and I find the full name. This is just a helpful hint for newbies that may have this problem. This is easier: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l dhcp\* -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set up CUPS client
On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 12:00, Tom Pfeifer wrote: The part where I'm going blank is how to set up the 2nd machine so that I can use (send jobs to) the printer on the 1st machine. The docs seem to gloss over this, not going into any kind of step by step (or example) as they do with configuring the local machine. In other words, what CUPS packages (if any) are needed on the client machine, and how do I go about accessing and selecting that printer over the network from applications such as Open Office, Mozilla, etc.? Install cupsys-client Edit /etc/cups/client.conf and change the line that sets ServerName -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finance/business
On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 21:13, Alejandro Matos wrote: Got 4 programs (including gnucash) Could anyone else help me with it? We have begun development of a SQL-based system called Advacs (Advanced Accounting System), which can be found at http://alioth.debian.org/projects/advacs/ This is still only in the planning stage and is certainly not a possibility for someone wanting to change right now. On the other hand, if they really want to go open-souorce and would like to contribute to the specification, that would be very good. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Usability Questions
On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 15:13, Ed Sutherland wrote: Is there a way to shutdown my computer within Gnome or KDE without having to first log-out, then picking 'shutdown'? (I know *nix systems are designed for 24/7, but many desktop computer users prefer shutting down overnight.) Ctrl-Alt-F1-- switches to first virtual console Ctrl-Alt-Del -- standard shutdown/reboot Make sure that the shutdown line in /etc/inittab says -h rather than -r, otherwise it will just reboot. Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work in X; that's why you have to switch to a console screen first. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Behold, I stand at the door, and knock; if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Revelation 3:20 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Connection Question
On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 04:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All I am a beginner in Linux using Debian. I have installed Debian in my old computer i386 machine (Configuration given below) I would like to know if there is a way I can have this macine to identlify the network and the ip address. I have DSL Internet connection - I have a DSL Modem and a 4 port Linksys Router. I have 2 computer connecting to this Router - One running Windows XP and the other Debian. I have these following questions 1. How to have it identify the Network connection? You don't mention how you physically connect to the router; is it a network card? or USB? You need to have the appropriate module loaded into the kernel when you boot. 2. Can I have it work as a firewall and a router - the DSL Modem connecting directly to the server.? Yes. A nice firewall to run is Shorewall (Debian package available). Using the computer as a router requires the computer to have two network interfaces. You would need to add a network card which would be connected to your home LAN. I don't how the DSL modem connects and whether that can connect directly or whether it would be easier to connect to the computer through the router. 3. How to set the Time and Date? For example to 23:47 on September 6th 2004 As root: date 090623472004 Then install the ntpdate and ntp-simple packages to keep the time and date accurate by asking Internet servers. 4I have a mouse which connects to the USB Port - but its also not being identified by the X Window. What commands I need to execute? Need some help. Set it up in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. It needs to contain a section looking something like this: Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection and that section needs to be tied into the ServerLayout section. Thanks Regards, AARON ROY ORIGINAL Configuration: Intel Celeron 366MHz (w/128KB Cache) PPGA CPU 32MB SyncDRAM (up to 256 MB) 2 USB Ports (1 is on Front) 1 Serial / 1 Parallel / 3 Expansion Slot Audio In Out / Game Port on Front Internet Ready Microsoft Works ATI Rage Pro Turbo 2X AGP with 4MB SGRAM Crystal CS4280 3D PCI Audio 40x Max. CD-ROM Drive 4.3GB HDD (Ultra DMA EIDE) [ADDED 30 GB NEW HDD] 3.5 1.44MB FDD 56K* ITU V.90 PCI Fax/Modem PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse Stereo Speakers Thanks Regards, -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13
Re: Help!!!! If I'm to get debian up, I need help solving this...
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 07:40, Chris Stockwell wrote: dear debian users, OK, here's the problem: I for the life of me can't connect to the online apt sources. security.debian.org is 194.109.137.218 Can you reach it at all? (ping 194.109.137.218) If not, it is your network setup that is at fault. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent, because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; of which he has given assurance to all men, in that he has raised him from the dead. Acts 17:30-31.
Re: please help
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 17:14, Atiase Favour wrote: Hello: My name is Favour Atiase, I am from Ghana West Africa. I have an HP DesignJet 750C Plus plotter and I have a problem with it. I switch on my plotter and recieced this error message 070010 01E6 on the led display, what does it mean and what do i have to check before. I have change all the cartridges but still. please help me with this ploblem. This is a hardware problem with your scanner. Debian is software. I think you will be more likely to get an anser to your question from an HP website, for example https://www.designjet.hp.com/reg_product_home.html?new_product=750Cpageseq=937897 -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA ...Take heed, and beware of covetousness; for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth. Luke 12:15 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice.org and Spelling
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 04:14, Ed Sutherland wrote: Kevin C. Smith wrote: I had to: # mkdir /usr/lib/openoffice/share/dict # ln -s /usr/share/myspell/dicts/ ooo and then spellchecking worked. I just tried that. Nothing changed. Any switch or toggle I'm forgetting to throw? Thanks. There is an implication of a cd into the new directory before making the link. Would that work? -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Mark 8:36 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postgres phpgroupware login woes
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 05:30, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: Running SARGE. I have everything installed and appears to be installed correctly. If I login as user postgres I can login to a database phpgroupware. If I am any other user and I run command psql phpgroupware -U postgres -W I get error psql: FATAL: IDENT authentication failed for user postgres also, I cannot create phpgroupware database from phpgroupware admin? What have I got setup incorrectly? I don't know the insides of phpgroupware, but let me explain PostgreSQL's authentication. You connect either as a local client using Unix sockets (hostname is blank) or through TCP/IP with or without SSL (hostname is not blank); these three modes of access are represented in /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf by lines beginning local, host-ssl or host respectively. You connect to a specified database as a specified user. If you are connecting through TCP/IP you are coming from some particular host. The first line in pg_hba.conf to match the combination of access mode, database, user and (for TCP/IP only) source IP address is the line that governs how your access is authenticated. The default access mode in Debian PostgreSQL is ident sameuser; this means that the postmaster checks that the database user being requested is the same as the system login. This means that you can access PostgreSQL securely without having to enter a password every time you connect. When you access through the web, you cannot use ident authentication because the system user requesting access is the owner of the webserver (usually www-data) rather than yourself; so web-based database access must use passwords - specify authentication mode md5 in pg_hba.conf. Remember you must set passwords for all users with ALTER USER WITH PASSWORD xxx before you change the authentication mode. A user with no password cannot get in at all. I presume that phpgroupware is the same kind of animal; it must be running under some other user name, so it cannot use ident authentication; you must specify md5 authentication mode in the pg_hba.conf line that governs the connection. If you want to avoid having the same change made for all accesses, arrange to have phpgroupware connect to hostname localhost (thus using TCP/IP) while default psql access will be to a blank hostname, thus using a Unix socket. The two different access modes can have different authentication, as explained above. Oliver Elphick maintainer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postgres phpgroupware login woes
Lance, my reply to you bounced, so I'm sending it to the list instead. Bounce details at the bottom. On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 17:18, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: Is ENCRYPTED PASSWORD necessary for md5 passwords It is now the default. (To be precise, it is controlled by the parameter PASSWORD_ENCRYPTION which defaults to on.) See the man page for create_user. Oliver === Bounce: A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host gomer.august.net [216.87.128.131]: 550-reject sending to address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. 550-The address [EMAIL PROTECTED] was not accepted. 550-Reason given was: (ERR_100) no such user or mailbox. 550 Permanent failure logged. -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mailgate.bray-healthcare.com ([80.177.250.202] helo=solport.bray-healthcare.com) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1C0NqQ-000D92-0U for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:15:26 + Received: from braydb.bray-healthcare.com ([192.168.1.18]) by solport.bray-healthcare.com with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1C0NqQ-0004SI-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:15:26 +0100 Subject: Re: postgres phpgroupware login woes From: Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lance Hoffmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrong interpretation og '\$' by bash?
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 01:52, Nicholas Lativy wrote: PS1=\[\033]0;\$\w/\007\]\$\w/: I tried this here and got the same as you report, a $ for root instead of the expected #. Then I used: PS1='\[\033]0;\$\w/\007\]\$\w/: ' and that worked! I played about a bit and consistently the latter quoting style produced the expected result but the former did not. I have no idea why this is (a bug?) It is a consequence of shell quoting rules. ... does variable substitution and backslash escaping, '...' does no substitution or escaping. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. I Thessalonians 5:2,3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: select N random lines in a file
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 20:35, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: Hello all, I would like to write a script that will select N number of random lines in a file. Any suggestions on how to do this? Use the rand() function in awk -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. I Thessalonians 5:2,3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid and security
On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 16:25, Michael Satterwhite wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I note that when the Sarge installer created my sources.list file, it put a line in as follows: deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main ... Question: Am I correct that a parallel location for unstable is not needed? There is none. It would be far too much effort for the security team to cope with. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first; Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord. I Thessalonians 4:16,17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid and security
On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 16:42, Stefan O'Rear wrote: Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding all this... Security team finds hole. Security team fixes hole. Security team NMU's woody-proposed-updates (exactly what section doesn't really matter.) Security team contacts maintainer. Maintainer applies patch. Maintainer uploads to sid. No. Maintainer agrees patch with security team; security team upload new woody package. The patch must be limited to the security features. Nothing from sid (unstable) ever goes into woody (stable), only into sarge (testing) which is soon to become the new stable. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first; Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord. I Thessalonians 4:16,17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrong interpretation og '\$' by bash?
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 10:10, Daniel M. wrote: Hello everybody, I have the following lines in ~/.bash_prompt (for all users): -- # set prompt and window title (if running in X terminal) case $TERM in xterm*) PS1=\[\033]0;\$\w/\007\]\$\w/: ;; *) PS1=\$\w/: ;; esac -- The problem is, that when I log in as a root, '$' is displayed instead of '#'. Why is that so - '\$' is supposed to display '#' if the effective uid is 0, and how it can be corrected? Quoting, I think. Because you are using double quotes, the backslash is being interpreted by the shell as an escape character, as if you were specifying a literal dollar sign. Use single quotes instead. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first; Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord. I Thessalonians 4:16,17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Questions or Doubts?
On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 14:46, William Ballard wrote: My pet peeve is take a decision vs. make a decision. Great Britains, Old Europe, New Europe, Asia and the Third World all say take a decision when they speak english. We never use that in America. Comment from England: Rubbish! Take a decision is rare and sounds odd. The phrase is take the decision followed by an infinitive expressing what was decided; it is a more verbose synonym of decide. It is usually transitive, whereas make a decision is usually intransitive. I make a decision; I will make a decision; I may make a decision. I made a decision; I took the decision to do something. Take a decision is so passive; it implies studying what my options are, holding my nose, and choosing one. Make a decision is much more American -- we'll just invent the option we want and then take that one. As in Iraq... -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. I Thessalonians 4:13,14 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Obsessed with a clean system
On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 04:04, Tong Sun wrote: Looking at the packages I installed, I know there would be lots of them that I will never use. E.g., kscreensaver ktux xscreensaver kdewallpapers atlantik atlantikdesigner gnome-games gnome-games-data katomic kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kdegames kdegames-card-data kenolaba kfouleggs kgoldrunner khangman kjumpingcube klickety kmahjongg kmessedwords kolf konquest kpat ksirtet ksmiletris ksokoban kspaceduel libgdkcardimage0 libkdegames1 libkpathsea3 lskat I don't want them, but I have to keep them. This to me is a huge list. You do not have to keep them. I used to remove all files in unwanted rpm packages in RH, leaving only empty shells in the system. Anybody has done similar things in Debian? [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo apt-get -u remove kbattleship Password: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: kbattleship kde kde-amusements kdegames 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 963kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Abort. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg -L kde /. /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/kde /usr/share/doc/kde/README.Debian /usr/share/doc/kde/copyright /usr/share/doc/kde/changelog.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg -L kde-amusements /. /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/kde-amusements /usr/share/doc/kde-amusements/README.Debian /usr/share/doc/kde-amusements/copyright /usr/share/doc/kde-amusements/changelog.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg -L kdegames /. /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/kdegames /usr/share/doc/kdegames/AUTHORS /usr/share/doc/kdegames/README /usr/share/doc/kdegames/copyright /usr/share/doc/kdegames/changelog.gz /usr/share/doc/kdegames/changelog.Debian.gz So you see that those three reverse dependencies are actually dummy packages. Their only purpose is to cause other packages to be installed. You can safely allow them to be removed, so far as the current operation of your system is concerned. It might in the future lead to some hiccups; for example, if a new and necessary dependency were to be added to kde, you would miss it. Arguably, that would be added at the wrong level, though. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him; do not fret when men succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes. Psalms 37:7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 14:10, Oliver Elphick wrote: On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 02:14, John Hasler wrote: Oliver Elphick writes: I have the beginnings of the design of such a system; if anyone else would like to contribute ideas, please email me. Your requirements sound good to me, though some of them are not relevant to my needs. Do you want to set up a mailing list, or maybe an Alioth project? I have requested an alioth project. Which has now been created: advacs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 03:00, John Hasler wrote: John Summerfield writes: Web interfaces have their advantages though: for example, you client machine can be anything anywhere running any web browser. One of the things users like about sql-ledger is that you can do work at a client site, connect to your accounts (possibly using their machine), print up an invoice, process the payment give them the receipt. I would never make my accounting system accessible from the Net. I would like it to be accessible on the LAN, though, and https seems like a good way to do that. You can also let your client program talk to the PostgreSQL postmaster through an SSL connection (for remote links) or Kerberos or directly (for a trusted network). I don't actively oppose a web interface; it's just that they are such a pain to debug that I don't want to write one. Also, using a web interface pretty much requires the application be multiuser. That's a given, isn't it? I'd also want a text interface. My wife hates GUIs. A well-written web-interface should support lynx and similar text-based browsers. However, I would prefer a dedicated text input program without the web-browser overhead; so it would work like the old green-screen programs I used to write. The objective here is maximum convenience for data entry: type in the data, press return to go to the next field, predictive text where possible, in-field editing. Eiffel would offend those users who are especially keen on free software, and ensure that the sotware would, at best, be in contrib. I would not be interested in a non-free package. Eiffel is free. As has been pointed out, SmartEiffel is a GPL'd compiler (the official GNU Eiffel compiler, no less!) and the class libraries are free too. It can even be faster than a program written from scratch in C, because the optimisation looks at the entire program before generating the C code rather than the more limited optimisation that a C compiler can do (according to a current thread on the smarteiffel mainlig list). I have a toy system I spent some time on after I dropped out of the Gnucash project. It uses Python and Postgresql and illustrates some ideas I was unable to sell to the Gnucash folks, such as using a journal as the fundamental data structure. I haven't looked at it in years, so it has probably suffered bit-rot. Let me set out what I think are some of the requirements for a good accounting system (in no particular order): 1. It should properly maintain double-entry, so that a non-computer-literate bookkeeper can view accounts and understand them as if he were looking at a written ledger. 2. It should be fully integrated. Cashbook, sales and purchase invoicing, asset depreciation, employee expenses, tax deductions and direct journal entries should all interact; the journal should be able to address any ledger. 3. Account codes should be purely arbitrary. I hate these systems that force you to use numeric codes to sort the chart of accounts. The organisation of accounts should depend on separate attributes of the account definitions, not on their codes. 4. There should be no limits on the number of companies, customers, accounts or whatever. (Proprietary systems tend to impose these to make you pay for upgrades.) 5. The system should be modular, so that you only need to install the bits you use. 6. There needs to be a full printed audit trail. Entries should never be deleted, only reversed. Use printed checksums to enable it to be proved that the current system entries are the same as were originally entered. 7. The system should enforce separation of duties, if the organisation is large enough to need that. (For example, the people who write cheques should not be the same people as the bought ledger clerks). 8. In view of the many different legal and tax systems in the world, it should be easy to integrate tax modules in various places. 9. It should be easy to remove data relating to past years, without affecting the current data; equally it should be possible to keep multiple years' data on-line. I have the beginnings of the design of such a system; if anyone else would like to contribute ideas, please email me. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also; knowing that tribulation worketh patience; And patience, experience; and experience, hope. Romans 5:3,4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?
On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 11:41, Johann Spies wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 12:44:38AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: I found the documentation confusing to say the least. I agree with that. (Once I got it working, I found sql-ledger to be cumbersome and not in my opinion suitable for use as an enterprise accounts system. ) Thanks for your reply. This remark of yours makes me wonder whether it is worth while to try it out. It might suit you better. I have written an accounting system in the past and now I have looked at sql-ledger I prefer to do the same again, since it doesn't suit my ideas of what such a system should be like. But I wouldn't want my strong prejudice to overwhelm your own judgment! I think they made a very good choice of database! -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. I Corinthians 13:4-7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?
On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 13:52, John Hasler wrote: Oliver Elphick writes: I have written an accounting system in the past and now I have looked at sql-ledger I prefer to do the same again, since it doesn't suit my ideas of what such a system should be like. Any chance that you will package it? Or let someone else do so? I'm not pleased with sql-ledger either, but I like the alternatives even less. Once it is written, yes. If you would like to list features you would like to see, that could be helpful. There really needs to be a good free accounting package, but it has to cope with all kinds of things to be a good internationalised package, and I probably haven't even imagined some of them. The old one was written (in BASIC) for UniVerse, which is proprietary. The code is currently stuck on an HP-UX machine to which I have lost the passwords. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. I Corinthians 13:4-7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?
On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 18:09, bob parker wrote: Any chance that you will package it? Or let someone else do so? I'm not pleased with sql-ledger either, but I like the alternatives even less. Once it is written, yes. If you would like to list features you would like to see, that could be helpful. There really needs to be a good free accounting package, but it has to cope with all kinds of things to be a good internationalised package, and I probably haven't even imagined some of them. Are we talking about a web page interface here? Say Pg + Php? If so I have the beginnings of a payroll module I could contribute. It's built to ato rules of PAYE for dotAU but maybe there's enough in common to suit other places. I'm not all that keen on web interfaces; as far as I can see, from my limited and reluctant experience of writing them, the programming languages are poor and debugging is a nightmare. I was thinking on the lines of glade + Python or Eiffel. However the underlying database structure should be the same, and I would insist on putting all the consistency rules into the database (triggers, foreign keys, etc.) so you could possibly have two different interfaces to the same database. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. I Corinthians 13:4-7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kill process by name
On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 19:29, Muratorio, Diego wrote: Hello Rick, I am looking for the same, did you find something about kill process by name? You want killall, from the psmisc package. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. I Corinthians 13:4-7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
