Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?
On 9/25/23 17:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 04:49:52PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Lastly, do I understand correctly that the root of this whole issue is simply misformed headers in the original spam mail that I receive at my Dreamhost account? Oh, and does all this lead to the "Frozen Message" emails I receive (described in a prior email)? I'm not an exim expert, but it seems the fundamental issue here is that your actual receiving MTA (Dreamhost) accepted these messages, but your local exim MTA refused to accept them. Fetchmail kept trying to move the messages from the former to the latter, which failed each time, and caused exim to generate a new bounce message. Each time. The same issue would have arisen in any situation where the first MTA and the second MTA have differing acceptance criteria. Could be syntax errors, could be antispam policy, could be anything that's different between the two MTAs. One of the big revelations in email administration in the last few decades is that the original SMTP design, in which messages were accepted liberally, with bounces generated after the fact if deliveries were not possible, was flawed. It led to many kinds of abuse by malicious senders. The preferred policy nowadays is to perform all possible checks *during* the initial SMTP conversation. If a message fails to meet acceptance criteria for any reason, it should be rejected during that initial conversation. Generating a bounce message almost always ends up sending spam to an innocent third party address, which the malicious sender has forged. How this relates to fetchmail and exim, specifically, I can't say. These aren't tools I'm deeply familiar with. But if you can do it, try to arrange it so that any message that can't be accepted gets dropped into a black hole, rather than generating a bounce message. Thanks Greg. Your summary matches my new understanding. I looked at the Dreamhost mail options and don't see where I can change anything, so the next time I get an email stuck there I'll try adding the fetchmail --nosoftbounce option which should quietly delete the bad message on the server, and stop any future bounce messages. Rick
Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?
On 9/25/23 14:58, Rick Macdonald wrote: Some of the mail in the queue is up to 4 days old. I'm going to clear it all out to see what new arrives in this state. I've made a bit of progress. First, I deleted the almost 6000 messages in the mail queue: # mailq | grep 1q | cut -c11-26 | xargs exim4 -Mrm Then I noticed that I was still getting more, but always the same 4 messages. I checked on the Dreamhost server where I pull my mail from and sure enough found those 4 messages "stuck" there. I deleted the 4 from Dreamhost, and now all is quiet for the moment. These 4 messages were all spam. I think the mail in the "mailq" kept growing because fetchmail was repeatedly trying but failing to retrieve the same messages over and over. I see a fetchmail option that might help, but I'm wondering if I might then lose some non-spam problematic mail that fetchmail can't fetch? *--nosoftbounce* (since v6.3.10, Keyword: set no softbounce, since v6.3.10) Hard bounce mode. All permanent delivery errors cause messages to be deleted from the upstream server, see "no softbounce" below. *--softbounce* (since v6.3.10, Keyword: set softbounce, since v6.3.10) Soft bounce mode. All permanent delivery errors cause messages to be left on the upstream server if the protocol supports that. Default to match historic fetchmail documentation, to be changed to hard bounce mode in the next fetchmail release. I'm running fetchmail v6.4.37. It appears that --softbounce is still the default. Since they intend to change the default someday to --nosoftbounce, maybe this option isn't as dangerous as it sounds to me? Lastly, do I understand correctly that the root of this whole issue is simply misformed headers in the original spam mail that I receive at my Dreamhost account? Oh, and does all this lead to the "Frozen Message" emails I receive (described in a prior email)? Rick
Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?
On 9/25/23 14:25, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Rick, Your system has rejected a spam email, not because it worked out it was spam, but because it was syntactically invalid. That's good, but unfortunately your system decided to helpfully tell the (spam) sender what had happened, by trying to send this bounce message back: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 12:24:52PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: # exim4 -Mvb 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V-D --foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801 Content-Type: text/plain This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. Reason: General SMTP/ESMTP error. The following address(es) failed: rickm@localhost SMTP error: 550 header syntax --foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801 Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; timshel Final-Recipient: rfc822; rickm@localhost Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:50:01 -0600 (MDT) Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: 550 header syntax --foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801 Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers X-Original-To: ri...@timshel.ca Delivered-To: x2959...@pdx1-sub0-mail-mx207.dreamhost.com Received: from tulsa.turntext.co (unknown [104.234.25.229]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-mx207.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RtbVJ37KPz6m2v for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2023 23:20:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=k1; d=turntext.co; h=Mime-Version:Content-Type:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Message-ID; i=wornkneecartil...@turntext.co; bh=CBxd431jRA2owpgtRRwIfhh07HQ=; b=gHSMnk0fIYnLGQMVojCZV3z41dNcSDXALZjYjGOQIeWpdDRnH1sBJQfHSP1kzPxUfJa/crsQxxk0 EEY0hk6SjSg1YMK0YDqaT3OXZpz67fAgfVqbB+/ZLA7peSq+mggzKwXIfesN5AC+H7c6pFd6rOii E7T+FwmD2FKVnP6z0is= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=k1; d=turntext.co; b=FZY5bgp2/ypBd4Xc/Efzs345ind+OlkYi2NY3G5/m9tEesrUIeIGeE3JR8wlb2+gDhJDNA2BmzYx 53+nwYoiSBgyl/seZvILf1Ojhxg2y0YQWVwzF4LYDunZHfOV8RsiXxhHwL+xjbcTK3zPuKvdOjRF 1yRVz4iZe7AkjSr5Veo=; Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="21ceb14ceae19fd582462d70f2ee8d8a" Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 23:19:41 -0700 From: "Knee Hurts?" Reply-To: "Knee Hurts?" One of those two are probably the headers that your Exim objects to, since they have spaces in the local parts of the address without quoting. The whole emails are of course, unwanted spam. Your other problem, and the reason you have noticed this, is that your smarthost does not want to accept these helpful bounce messages that you are generating. They are using a temporary failure code (451) but their mention of the "AUP" string leads me to believe that they may suspect the messages are spam or spam-related and want nothing to do with them. Either way, they are useless messages and you should stop trying to send them. If my system is trying to reply tho them, should I stop it from trying to reply? (Of course I don't know how to do that!) You can remove them from your mail queue with: # eim4 -Mrm You can get the ids from the "mailq" command or reading your logs. You can specify multiple ids per command line. After doing that you may want to look into how you can avoid sending bounce messages to emails that your system doesn't want to accept. These bounce messages are happening outside of the original SMTP connection (which was between the sender and the MX for your domain) and are generally "too little, too late". Additionally, it seems like you may be sending them as rickm@localhost, which is not helpful even when they are justified. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with your setup so wouldn't know how to configure that. The mailq command shows many of the following: 16m 2.6K 1qks1r-005B1x-2l <> 6626-879-8427-40-rickm=timshel...@mail.purecuresol.co 15m 3.1K 1qks2o-005BHh-0S <> bounce+c764ac.103fa-rickm=timshel...@inputhealth.com 15m 2.6K 1qks2o-005BI0-2K <> 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co 15m 2.7K 1qks2p-005BIG-0u <> 6613-452-119912-590-rickm=timshel...@mail.ikariacool.co 15m 2.6K 1qks2p-005BIL-2m <> 6626-879-8427-40-rickm=timshel...@mail.purecuresol.co ...etc... 2m 2.7K 1qksFP-005Hqj-0e <> *** frozen *** 6613-452-119912-590-rickm=timshel...@mail.ikariacool.co 2m 2.6K 1qksFP-005Hqs-2U <> *** frozen *** 6626-879-8427-40-rickm=timshel...@mail.purecuresol.co 1m 3.1K 1qksGL-005IAq-2A <> *** frozen *** bounce+c764ac.103fa-rickm=timshel...@inputhealth.com 1m 2.6K 1qksGM-005IBF-0n <> *** frozen *** 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co 1m 2.7K 1qksGM-005IBh-2h <> *** frozen *** 6613-452-119912-590-rickm=timshel...@mail.ikariacool.co 1m 2.6K 1qksGN-005IBo-1O <> *** froze
Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?
On 9/25/23 12:42, Michael Kjörling wrote: The following address(es) failed: rickm@localhost SMTP error: 550 header syntax So something running on your local system almost certainly tried to send mail to either "rickm" or "rickm@localhost", and that triggered queuing the non-delivery notice which you're seeing evidence of in your outgoing mail logs. Do you have something like fetchmail set up in multidrop mode, any forwarding procmail rules, spam filtering, or anything similar, especially ones that would be triggered by something being sent to... Not multi-drop mode, no forwarding procmail rules: only delivery to mail folders (and a few to /dev/null). I did find that I had Thunderbird Return Receipts turned on for some cases. I thought it was set to "always ask me". I've used Thunderbird forever, and it's asked me maybe once. However, I see now something that I missed understanding: If I'm not in the To or Cc of the message: Ask me These spam emails would have me in the To field. Could this be the origin of these reply attempts? I've now set it to "Never", but based on your comments and Andy's, this doesn't seem to be the source of the messages? Rick
Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?
On 9/25/23 08:29, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 24 Sep 2023 20:58 -0600, from rickm...@shaw.ca (Rick Macdonald): My /var/log/.exim4/log file is flooded with messages such as shown below. I'm not trying to send mail to any of those .co or .com addresses. I use my ISP (shaw.ca cable provider) as a smarthost. Are people trying to use my system as a relay? The log snippet you show doesn't include enough information to tell for certain where those emails were originally accepted from, but given what you wrote I wouldn't dismiss the possibility out of hand. I've sent some more log info just now in a reply to Andy Smith. If so, can I block them without cutting myself off from remote access to the IMAP server I run on my system? You don't seem to be exposing any SMTP server to the outside world, so I don't know what might reasonably be going on. Otherwise blocking off TCP ports 25 and 587 would probably have been a good place to start. Sorry if I sound lame. I set this up over 20 years ago and haven't done anything to it since. If you set it up in the early 2000s and haven't done anything since then, there's certainly a non-zero probability that it's set up as an open relay. But although that's a potential problem, it would only be a _big_ problem if it was accessible from outside of your network, which does not _immediately_ appear to be the case. Ports 25 and 587 are not forwarded by my ASUS router. They may well have been back in the day. However, on a semi-unrelated note, you might want to make sure that the firmware and software is up to date on everything you _do_ expose to the Internet. It looks like ASUS' web server has had stack-smashing vulnerabilities previously (not sure if the RT-AC66U is affected), and whatever is running through Restlet Framework on port 23424 reports a version of server software that hasn't been updated since 2014. And that's just some of what I plausibly found barely looking. Well spotted! Port 23424 was for a server that I stopped running just last week. I have now removed it from my port forwarding. Thanks Michael! Rick
Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?
On 9/25/23 10:03, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Rick, On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 08:58:04PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: 2023-09-24 20:48:37 1qkRDH-001Zqh-1Z == 6626-879-8427-40-rickm=timshel...@mail.purecuresol.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-54): retry time not reached for any host for 'mail.purecuresol.co' There isn't anything shown except delivery attempts so we can';t see how these messages got in to your system. You can see all logs related to this message with: # exim4 -Mvl 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V and view its headers and body with "-Mvh" and "-Mvb" respectively. That might give you some more hints. Thanks Andy! Here are those lists: # exim4 -Mvl 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V 2023-09-24 06:50:01 Received from <> H=(timshel) [::1] P=smtp S=2662 2023-09-24 06:50:05 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 06:50:08 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 06:50:08 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:38:45 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:38:48 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:38:48 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:56:28 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:56:31 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:56:31 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 08:37:50 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 08:37:53 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 08:37:53 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 09:23:46 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 09:23:49 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 09:23:49 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 10:54:59 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 10:55:02 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 10:55:02 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 12:50:28 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:&
Are people trying to relay mail through my system?
My /var/log/.exim4/log file is flooded with messages such as shown below. I'm not trying to send mail to any of those .co or .com addresses. I use my ISP (shaw.ca cable provider) as a smarthost. Are people trying to use my system as a relay? If so, can I block them without cutting myself off from remote access to the IMAP server I run on my system? Sorry if I sound lame. I set this up over 20 years ago and haven't done anything to it since. 2023-09-24 20:48:37 1qkRDH-001Zqh-1Z == 6626-879-8427-40-rickm=timshel...@mail.purecuresol.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-54): retry time not reached for any host for 'mail.purecuresol.co' 2023-09-24 20:48:37 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V == 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-54): retry time not reached for any host for 'mail.turntext.co' 2023-09-24 20:48:37 1qkLEb-000vn2-2D == bounce+c764ac.103fa-rickm=timshel...@inputhealth.com R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-54): retry time not reached for any host for 'inputhealth.com' 2023-09-24 20:48:37 1qk8eb-00HQEW-2o == bounce+c764ac.103fa-rickm=timshel...@inputhealth.com R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-54): retry time not reached for any host for 'inputhealth.com' 2023-09-24 20:48:37 1qkRGA-001aA2-2k == 6613-452-119912-590-rickm=timshel...@mail.ikariacool.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-54): retry time not reached for any host for 'mail.ikariacool.co' 2023-09-24 20:48:37 1qkDDB-000ChQ-2S == bounce+c764ac.103fa-rickm=timshel...@inputhealth.com R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-54): retry time not reached for any host for 'inputhealth.com' 2023-09-24 20:48:37 1qkZIY-002gsG-0D == 6613-452-119912-590-rickm=timshel...@mail.ikariacool.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-54): retry time not reached for any host for 'mail.ikariacool.co' Rick
Re: upgrade to bookworm broke phpmyadmin
On 8/24/23 07:53, Stefan Monnier wrote: So, given that I purged everything and re-installed and it still didn't work, is this indeed a packaging error? I've been running Debian for well over 25 years (I started with a pre-release before buzz was released) and I don't remember anything that didn't work after installing. I don't know the history of this precise thingy, but there can be valid reasons to install both PHP and Apache, yet not to intend to run PHP from Apache or not in the way that `a2enmod php8.2` does (especially given the security risks it entails). I have a vague recollection of having to explicitly enable/activate PHP support in Apache's config many years ago, so I believe this is not a new requirement. Fair enough, but if somebody installs the phpmyadmin package, which requires both PHP and Apache, clearly the intention is to "run PHP from Apache in the way that `a2enmod php8.2` does". So, I finally found the following in /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian: phpmyadmin for Debian - USAGE The application will be available at http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ after install if you use one of supported web servers (Apache and Lighttpd at time of writing this). Please note that you need to have enabled PHP support in your webserver (for Apache you can do this by a2enmod php8.2, for Lighttpd by lighty-enable-mod fastcgi). I've been running phpmyadmin for years, so I can't swear I didn't manually enable this back in the day. I've done other Debian releases along the way but it never broke before. However, I'm perfectly happy to say it's "my bad": for not scouring through these doc files. Thanks again to all, I REALLY do appreciate the help! Rick
Re: upgrade to bookworm broke phpmyadmin
On 8/23/23 18:14, Dan Ritter wrote: Rick Macdonald wrote: Silly me though, I see I didn't actually describe the failure when I try to connect to localhost/phpmyadmin. The browser just opens and shows the text of the file /usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php. Is this a clue? That generally means that the web server -- apache2? nginx? -- does not know how to hand the .php file off to a php processor. For apache2, you would need to install libapache2-mod-php8.2 and then run a2enmod php8.2 and service apache2 restart Bingo! That's it! Thank-you so much, Dan! libapache2-mod-php8.2 was already installed, so I just ran a2enmod and restarted. So, given that I purged everything and re-installed and it still didn't work, is this indeed a packaging error? I've been running Debian for well over 25 years (I started with a pre-release before buzz was released) and I don't remember anything that didn't work after installing. Rick
Re: upgrade to bookworm broke phpmyadmin
On 8/23/23 11:03, Michael Kjörling wrote:
I don't use roundcube any more. Would it help to uninstall it? Although, at
the moment I have only php5.6 and php8.2 installed. I'm guessing the
bookworm upgrade removed php7.x.
I imagine that uninstalling roundcube won't do anything either way.
However, if it was me, unless there was some compelling reason to keep
it I'd consider uninstalling php5.6 and seeing if that helps.
Can't really help you further at this point because I've never
installed phpmyadmin myself; sorry.
I removed or purged roundecube, squirrelmail, phpmyadmin and every php5*
package, then reinstall phpmyadmin. No change.
Silly me though, I see I didn't actually describe the failure when I try
to connect to localhost/phpmyadmin. The browser just opens and shows the
text of the file /usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php. Is this a clue?
PHP 7.2.5+ is required.Currently installed version is: ' .
PHP_VERSION . '');
}
// phpcs:disable PSR1.Files.SideEffects
define('PHPMYADMIN', true);
// phpcs:enable
require_once ROOT_PATH . 'libraries/constants.php';
/**
* Activate autoloader
*/
if (! @is_readable(AUTOLOAD_FILE)) {
die(
'File ' . AUTOLOAD_FILE . ' missing or not
readable.'
. 'Most likely you did not run Composer to '
. 'https://docs.phpmyadmin.net/en/latest/setup.html#installing-from-git;>'
. 'install library files.'
);
}
require AUTOLOAD_FILE;
global $route, $containerBuilder, $request;
Common::run();
$dispatcher = Routing::getDispatcher();
Routing::callControllerForRoute($request, $route, $dispatcher,
$containerBuilder);
Rick
Re: upgrade to bookworm broke phpmyadmin
On 8/22/23 03:08, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 21 Aug 2023 20:00 -0600, fromrickm...@shaw.ca (Rick Macdonald): # dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin Determining localhost credentials from /etc/mysql/debian.cnf: succeeded. dbconfig-common: writing config to /etc/dbconfig-common/phpmyadmin.conf dbconfig-common: flushing administrative password apache2_invoke phpmyadmin: already enabled $ dpkg -l php php8.2 phpmyadmin Which exact version of each respective package is installed? # dpkg -l php php8.2 phpmyadmin Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Architecture Description +++-==-===--=== ii php 2:8.2+93 all server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (default) ii php8.2 8.2.7-1~deb12u1 all server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage) ii phpmyadmin 4:5.2.1+dfsg-1 all MySQL web administration tool Also $ aptitude why php8.2 # aptitude why php8.2 i roundcube Depends roundcube-core (= 1.6.1+dfsg-1) i A roundcube-core Depends php i A php Depends php8.2 I don't use roundcube any more. Would it help to uninstall it? Although, at the moment I have only php5.6 and php8.2 installed. I'm guessing the bookworm upgrade removed php7.x. _IF_ the version of phpmyadmin which Bookworm ships doesn't work with the version of PHP which Bookworm ships, that's at a minimum a packaging bug. But that would be an awfully obvious one that a lot more people should already have run into in that case, so I'm reluctant to assume that that's the problem. I'm more inclined to believe that maybe you're somehow running a non-Bookworm version of phpmyadmin which for whatever reason doesn't work with PHP 8, or for some reason your installation of phpmyadmin is being run through a different version of PHP. Buster and Bullseye were both PHP 7.x; which could help explain why it worked there but not after you upgraded to Bookworm. Package phpmyadmin * buster-backports <https://packages.debian.org/buster-backports/phpmyadmin>(web): MySQL web administration tool 4:5.0.4+dfsg2-2~bpo10+1: all * bullseye (oldstable) <https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/phpmyadmin>(web): MySQL web administration tool 4:5.0.4+dfsg2-2+deb11u1: all * bullseye-backports <https://packages.debian.org/bullseye-backports/phpmyadmin>(web): MySQL web administration tool 4:5.2.1+dfsg-1~bpo11+1: all * bookworm (stable) <https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/phpmyadmin>(web): MySQL web administration tool 4:5.2.1+dfsg-1: all * trixie (testing) <https://packages.debian.org/trixie/phpmyadmin>(web): MySQL web administration tool 4:5.2.1+dfsg-1: all * sid (unstable) <https://packages.debian.org/sid/phpmyadmin>(web): MySQL web administration tool 4:5.2.1+dfsg-1: all Rick
upgrade to bookworm broke phpmyadmin
I've been running phpmyadmin for years. It survived the upgrade to
bullseye about a month ago but now the upgrade to bookworm broke it.
I don't see any similar bug reports. I do see similar error messages
around the web from over the years, but I don't expect to have to do a
manual re-install or repair. I removed it and installed again, but the
result is the same. My mariadb is accessible from other apps and the
"mysql" command line program, so it's up and running. "Composer" as
mentioned in the error message isn't something that I have installed.
PHP 8.2.7 is the default version of php.
PHP 7.2.5+ is required.
Currently installed version is: ' . PHP_VERSION . '
'); } // phpcs:disable PSR1.Files.SideEffects define('PHPMYADMIN',
true); // phpcs:enable require_once ROOT_PATH .
'libraries/constants.php'; /** * Activate autoloader */ if (!
@is_readable(AUTOLOAD_FILE)) { die( '
File ' . AUTOLOAD_FILE . ' missing or not readable.
' . '
Most likely you did not run Composer to ' . '' . 'install library
files
.
' ); } require AUTOLOAD_FILE; global $route, $containerBuilder,
$request; Common::run(); $dispatcher = Routing::getDispatcher();
Routing::callControllerForRoute($request, $route, $dispatcher,
$containerBuilder);
I tried reconfigure, but I didn't select the option to "reinstall the
database"*:
*
# dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin
Determining localhost credentials from /etc/mysql/debian.cnf: succeeded.
dbconfig-common: writing config to /etc/dbconfig-common/phpmyadmin.conf
dbconfig-common: flushing administrative password
apache2_invoke phpmyadmin: already enabled
Any ideas?
Rick
Re: gnome-schedule gone from bullseye and bookworm
On 2023-07-14 16:26, songbird wrote:
here's the removal bug for more details:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=808060
BTW, for anybody interested, I found a simple Tcl-based cron/at GUI:
vcron. No binaries (but requires Tcl/Tk installed) and the tar file is
set up to put the files into /usr/local/{bin,lib}.
Rick
gnome-schedule gone from bullseye and bookworm
I fell behind with my major upgrades, and just upgraded from buster to bullseye (soon to be followed by bookworm). I've been using gnome-schedule, a simple cron GUI, for quite some time now but it seems to be gone. The upgrade REMOVED it, as shown below. Strange thing is, searching the web site I can't even find the old buster gnome-schedule package that I had. What happened to it? Is there an alternative GUI? The following packages will be REMOVED: ... gnome-schedule inkscape kodi kodi-data lib32stdc++-8-dev libgfortran-8-dev libmailutils5 libodbcinstq4-1:i386 libphonon4 libqscintilla2-qt4-13 libqt4-dbus libqt4-dbus:i386 ... Thanks
Re: Adding wine64 to wine installation (buster)
On 2021-03-25 11:50 p.m., Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: "wine" command is a 32-bit ELF binary and "wine64" command is a 64-bit ELF binary. In my experience it doesn't matter which one to use, as long as you run programs inside a prefix that supports both 32-bit and 64-bit (WoW64). [1] You can use just one prefix for both 32-bit and 64-bit programs, or you can have as many prefixes as you want, each could be setup with different settings and\or DLLs, tailored specifically for some program. It is up to you how to manage them all. I use "q4wine" program (it could be installed from Debian repo) that helps to make some things easier. There is also commercial software "CrossOver" [2] from the authors of WINE project, but I've never used it. [1] https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_User%27s_Guide#WINEARCH [2] https://www.codeweavers.com/crossover Everything is working perfectly now. Thanks for the help. Rick
Re: Adding wine64 to wine installation (buster)
Thanks! I ran the wineboot --init command and it worked, and I was able to install the 64bit program with "wine app64.exe", and it launches. Is there a difference between the commands wine and wine64? Now, do I need to reinstall all my previous 32bit programs, or can I use WINEPREFIX pointing to the old .wine directory that I renamed ".wine32"? Rick On March 25, 2021 12:10:59 p.m. MDT, "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: >On 25.03.2021 22:47, Rick Macdonald wrote: >> I've been running a few 32bit Windows programs with wine for many >> years, but now I need to run some 64bit programs. >> >> The Debian wine wiki says "Users on a 64-bit system should make sure >> that both wine32 and wine64 (or wine32-development and >> wine64-development) are installed". >> >> I have "deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/ buster main" in > >> sources.lists. I installed "wine64". The package lists before and >> after are below. When I try to install a 64bit program using "wine >> 64bitprogram.exe", I get the message: >> >> "This program can only be installed on versions of Windows designed >> for the following processor architectures: x64". >> >> So then I ran "wine64 64bitprogram.exe" and I get the message: >> >> "wine: '/home/myacct/.wine' is a 32-bit installation, it cannot >> support 64-bit applications." >> >> Installing wine64 didn't create a .wine64 directory. It seems like >I'm >> close, but what am I missing? Something to do with WINEPREFIX? >Correction, command should be: >$ wineboot --init > > >-- >With kindest regards, Alexander. > >⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ >⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system >⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org >⠈⠳⣄
Adding wine64 to wine installation (buster)
I've been running a few 32bit Windows programs with wine for many years, but now I need to run some 64bit programs. The Debian wine wiki says "Users on a 64-bit system should make sure that both wine32 and wine64 (or wine32-development and wine64-development) are installed". I have "deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/ buster main" in sources.lists. I installed "wine64". The package lists before and after are below. When I try to install a 64bit program using "wine 64bitprogram.exe", I get the message: "This program can only be installed on versions of Windows designed for the following processor architectures: x64". So then I ran "wine64 64bitprogram.exe" and I get the message: "wine: '/home/myacct/.wine' is a 32-bit installation, it cannot support 64-bit applications." Installing wine64 didn't create a .wine64 directory. It seems like I'm close, but what am I missing? Something to do with WINEPREFIX? Before installing wine64: # dpkg --get-selections|grep wine fonts-wine install libwine:i386 install libwine-cms:i386 install libwine-gphoto2:i386 install libwine-ldap:i386 install libwine-openal:i386 install libwine-print:i386 install libwine-sane:i386 install wine-stable install wine-stable-amd64 install wine-stable-i386:i386 install winehq-stable install winetricks install After installing wine64: # dpkg --get-selections|grep wine fonts-wine install libwine:i386 install libwine-cms:i386 install libwine-gphoto2:i386 install libwine-ldap:i386 install libwine-openal:i386 install libwine-print:i386 install libwine-sane:i386 install wine-stable install wine-stable-amd64 install wine-stable-i386:i386 install winehq-stable install winetricks install Thanks, Rick
remmina toolbar icons missing using stretch-backports
On my stretch system, I just upgraded remmina to 1.2.32 using
stretch-backports. It works fine except now many of the toolbar icons
show [X] as if they're are missing.
Some are OK, such as Tools, Preferences, Screenshot. Missing ones are:
Resize, Toggle Fullscreen, Switch Tabs, Toggle Scaled Mode, etc.
I imagine this is just peculiar to backports and that a system running
testing might be OK, and it should fix itself when buster is released,
but is there anything I can do to fix it now?
Here is what I have from backports. I had to grab libssh-4 because
remmina depended on a newer version.
dpkg -l |awk '/^ii/ && $3 ~ /bpo[9]/ {print $2}'
libayatana-appindicator3-1
libayatana-ido3-0.4-0:amd64
libayatana-indicator3-7:amd64
libfreerdp-client2-2:amd64
libfreerdp2-2:amd64
libssh-4:amd64
libwinpr2-2:amd64
remmina
remmina-common
remmina-plugin-exec:amd64
remmina-plugin-rdp:amd64
remmina-plugin-secret:amd64
remmina-plugin-vnc:amd64
Thanks,
Rick
Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable
On 19/07/18 12:19 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: I would do the downgrades. Then do an "apt-get clean", and after that, re-install firefox-esr. If you want an up-to-date firefox, install it directly from Mozilla in /opt/firefox. Thanks to Dan, Jochen and songbird for the advice to do the downgrade. I backed up some config files and let it rip, and it did it all perfectly. I'm giving the latest firefox directly from Mozilla a try. Easy to install and is running now. I've always used deb packages (iceweasel, firefox-esr, etc) but from time to time I had reason to notice that the stable version was old. Cheers!
Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable
On 19/07/18 12:19 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: This isn't absolutely awful; you can recover from this. Here is the list of downgrades if I pin stable to 1001: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: fonts-stix libevent-2.1-6 libhunspell-1.6-0 libjsoncpp1 libvpx5 python-automat python-hyperlink Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them. The following packages will be REMOVED: firefox The following NEW packages will be installed: python-twisted-web The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: deluge deluge-common deluge-console deluge-gtk deluge-web deluged fontconfig-config libbluray1 libboost-chrono1.62.0 libboost-python1.62.0 libboost-random1.62.0 libfontconfig1 libfontconfig1:i386 libnss3 libnss3:i386 libtorrent-rasterbar9 python-attr python-click python-libtorrent python-serial python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-zope.interface rtmpdump yasm 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 25 downgraded, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It shows the same 25 packages as the list of "newer" above, but I don't like that it wants to remove firefox. I have version 58.0.1 installed, and to be honest I can't figure out where this version came from. I do have some backports installed but that's not where firefox came from: # dpkg-query -W | grep '~bpo' libcec3v4:amd64 3.1.0+dfsg1-4~bpo8+2 libcrossguid0v4:amd64 0.0+git200150803-2~bpo8+1 libmysqlclient18:i386 5.6.30-1~bpo8+1 libp8-platform2v4:amd64 2.0.1+dfsg1-1~bpo8+1 libx265-79:amd64 1.9-3~bpo8+1 remmina 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1 remmina-common 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1 remmina-plugin-rdp:amd64 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1 remmina-plugin-vnc:amd64 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1 My question is: If I just leave it be, won't the packages eventually be upgraded from stable as the stable versions become newer than the unstable packages that I currently have installed? Or might I hit some dependency problems along the way? Should I instead do the downgrades now by pinning stable to priority 1001 (with I'm guessing is a one-time thing to do, and then remove the pinning)? I would do the downgrades. Then do an "apt-get clean", and after that, re-install firefox-esr. If you want an up-to-date firefox, install it directly from Mozilla in /opt/firefox. When you have a limited requirement for unstable or testing packages, you can use pinning to get just those packages and their dependencies. That's much more manageable than just blasting off in the direction of unstable. Dan, thank-you so much for your reply. I've been running Debian since maybe mid 1995, well before Bruce released Buzz. That doesn't make me smart, just old. ;-) This is the first time in all these years that I felt I needed mixed packages. I certainly don't think I "blasted off in the direction of unstable". My stance was that I had "a limited requirement for unstable", and thought that's what I did. If you don't mind, here's what I did for your insight in case I could have done better. Because I had never mixed packages or used pinning, I was and still am a bit vague about it. With unstable in my sources.list, and the following preferences file, I installed only deluge using "apt-get -t unstable install deluge", or maybe the deluge/unstable format. I may have grabbed another one or two library packages in desperation, but I think the rest were dragged in as dependencies. Package: * Pin: release a=stretch Pin-Priority: 700 Package: * Pin: release a=stretch-backports Pin-Priority: 650 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 100 Thanks! Rick
Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable
I'm going to pose my question here at the top in case it can be answered without wading through all the details that follow: Now that I have removed unstable form sources.list and preferences (pinning), won't my packages from unstable eventually be upgraded from stable as the stable versions become newer than the unstable packages that I currently have installed? Or might I hit some dependency problems along the way? Should I instead do the downgrades now by pinning stable to priority 1001 (with I'm guessing is a one-time thing to do, and then remove the pinning)? Here is the background: I upgraded to stretch back in November or so, and a couple of programs that installed OK didn't actually run properly. I grabbed them from unstable and all was good again. Today I removed all references to unstable in sources.list, and the pinning for unstable that I had in preferences. Prior to removing unstable from sources.list and preferences, "apt-show versions | grep unstable" showed, for example: deluge:all/unstable 1.3.15-2 uptodate "unstable" is gone from show-versions so I grep for "newer" instead. Now it shows: deluge:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive Here is the full list of "newer" files: # apt-show-versions |grep newer deluge:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive deluge-common:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive deluge-console:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive deluge-gtk:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive deluge-web:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive deluged:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive fontconfig-config:all 2.13.0-5 newer than version in archive libbluray1:amd64 2:0.7.0-dmo1 newer than version in archive libboost-chrono1.62.0:amd64 1.62.0+dfsg-7 newer than version in archive libboost-python1.62.0:amd64 1.62.0+dfsg-7 newer than version in archive libboost-random1.62.0:amd64 1.62.0+dfsg-7 newer than version in archive libfontconfig1:amd64 2.13.0-5 newer than version in archive libfontconfig1:i386 2.13.0-5 newer than version in archive libnss3:amd64 2:3.38-1 newer than version in archive libnss3:i386 2:3.38-1 newer than version in archive libtorrent-rasterbar9:amd64 1.1.5-1+b1 newer than version in archive python-attr:all 17.4.0-2 newer than version in archive python-click:all 6.7-5 newer than version in archive python-libtorrent:amd64 1.1.5-1+b1 newer than version in archive python-serial:all 3.4-3 newer than version in archive python-twisted-bin:amd64 18.4.0-2 newer than version in archive python-twisted-core:all 18.4.0-2 newer than version in archive python-zope.interface:amd64 4.3.2-1+b2 newer than version in archive rtmpdump:amd64 2:201412272202-git-1 newer than version in archive yasm:amd64 1.3.0-dmo2 newer than version in archive Here is the list of downgrades if I pin stable to 1001: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: fonts-stix libevent-2.1-6 libhunspell-1.6-0 libjsoncpp1 libvpx5 python-automat python-hyperlink Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them. The following packages will be REMOVED: firefox The following NEW packages will be installed: python-twisted-web The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: deluge deluge-common deluge-console deluge-gtk deluge-web deluged fontconfig-config libbluray1 libboost-chrono1.62.0 libboost-python1.62.0 libboost-random1.62.0 libfontconfig1 libfontconfig1:i386 libnss3 libnss3:i386 libtorrent-rasterbar9 python-attr python-click python-libtorrent python-serial python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-zope.interface rtmpdump yasm 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 25 downgraded, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It shows the same 25 packages as the list of "newer" above, but I don't like that it wants to remove firefox. I have version 58.0.1 installed, and to be honest I can't figure out where this version came from. I do have some backports installed but that's not where firefox came from: # dpkg-query -W | grep '~bpo' libcec3v4:amd64 3.1.0+dfsg1-4~bpo8+2 libcrossguid0v4:amd64 0.0+git200150803-2~bpo8+1 libmysqlclient18:i386 5.6.30-1~bpo8+1 libp8-platform2v4:amd64 2.0.1+dfsg1-1~bpo8+1 libx265-79:amd64 1.9-3~bpo8+1 remmina 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1 remmina-common 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1 remmina-plugin-rdp:amd64 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1 remmina-plugin-vnc:amd64 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1 My question is: If I just leave it be, won't the packages eventually be upgraded from stable as the stable versions become newer than the unstable packages that I currently have installed? Or might I hit some dependency problems along the way? Should I instead do the downgrades now by pinning stable to priority 1001 (with I'm guessing is a one-time thing to do, and then remove the pinning)?
Re: Upgraded to stretch but apache2 still uses php5
On 04/12/17 04:51 AM, x9p wrote: The downside of upgrading php5 -> php7 is.. some apps can break. Still, there are some workarounds to make them work with php7 (most of cases). check if you have libapache2-mod-php7.0 installed. remove/purge any other previous versions of this package and restart apache2. I had both installed: # dpkg --get-selections |grep libapache2-mod-php libapache2-mod-php5 install libapache2-mod-php7.0 install after that, check if there is still something there with: # egrep -rs php5 /etc/apache2/ # egrep -rs php5 /etc/apache2/ /etc/apache2/mods-available/php7.0.load:# Conflicts: php5 /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.load:LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so It didn't seem necessary to uninstall any php5, so I did this: # a2dismod php5 # a2enmod php7.0 # systemctl restart apache2 Now apache2 is using php7.0, and the apps that I checked all seem to work. I re-installed roundcube and installed the missing dependency php-net-idna2 ( https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=866895 ) and now roundcube works! Just curious, should the upgrade to stretch have done this for me or is it known that this switch is to be done manually? Thanks for the help! Rick also in hole system: dpkg -l | egrep php5 If so, repeat process of upgrade the packages, restart apache2 PS: Assuming your apps works with php7 cheers. x9p I thought I'd try a better webmail than squirrelmail, so I tried to install roundcube. After many hours I gave up (missing php pdo modules), purged it all, and then tried a non-debian package: rainloop. I spent may hours with it, trying to solve missing php curl modules. What had me going in circles in both cases was that php was telling me that the missing modules were in fact there. I finally realized that the php cli is v7.0, whereas apache2 runs runs with php5. There are all sorts of apache2 config files for php7 but apache2 is still using php5. php7 has the pdo and curl modules, but I think the php5 modules were uninstalled during the upgrade to stretch. I don't know if it is intentional that the apache2 environment didn't change to the newer php7? If it should be using php7, how do I go about forcing the change, and is there any downside to doing this? Regards, Rick
Upgraded to stretch but apache2 still uses php5
I thought I'd try a better webmail than squirrelmail, so I tried to install roundcube. After many hours I gave up (missing php pdo modules), purged it all, and then tried a non-debian package: rainloop. I spent may hours with it, trying to solve missing php curl modules. What had me going in circles in both cases was that php was telling me that the missing modules were in fact there. I finally realized that the php cli is v7.0, whereas apache2 runs runs with php5. There are all sorts of apache2 config files for php7 but apache2 is still using php5. php7 has the pdo and curl modules, but I think the php5 modules were uninstalled during the upgrade to stretch. I don't know if it is intentional that the apache2 environment didn't change to the newer php7? If it should be using php7, how do I go about forcing the change, and is there any downside to doing this? Regards, Rick
Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?
On 28/11/14 05:21 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
My apologies for the delay in replying.
On 28 November 2014 at 16:08, Rick Macdonald rickm...@shaw.ca wrote:
On 26/11/14 04:20 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 27/11/14 06:32, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On 26/11/14 08:24 AM, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On 26/11/14 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 26/11/14 16:14, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
snipped
I do have an udev rule (see attached and cp it to /etc/udev/rules.d)
that will automagically mount a NTFS formatted slice on an external
drive that has the LABEL WinBackup to /media/WinBackup, that uses
mount options that allow a user to write to it, and 'should' work for
Plex.
https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200288606-Mounting-NTFS-Drives-on-Linux
I have tested this using an USB Flash Drive with a single slice
formatted as NTFS, with the LABEL WinBackup. Thunar Vol Man is set to
automatically mount external drives (though it may be redundant).
$ groups
scott cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev users fuse netdev
$ mount -l | grep Win
/dev/sdb1 on /media/WinBackup type fuseblk
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[WinBackup]
$ grep ^user /etc/fuse.conf
user_allow_other
It's a far from perfect udev rule, but:-
;regrettably I'm out of time for the moment (apologies to the poster
waiting for assistance with Apple, resuming that is next on my to-do)
;I can't work out how to get around the limitations of NTFS support
(you could try Tuxera, but I suspect they work within the limitations
set by MS)
;I don't understand how Thunar populates the sidebar, and XFCE the
desktop, with the link to the disk LABEL despite digging through 860
results from a find for WinBackup. Hopefully someone will post a
solution for me.
With respect to your Post's Subject - I don't know. They are limited
by /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/25-ntfs-3g-policy.fdi, which
'seems' to be limited by the option in the ntfs-3g binary. I don't
like the idea of recompiling it and running it setuid (the dangers of
that with a Windows file system seem great). I suspect it's an xy
problem. Do let me know if the default's in the rule (attached) are
insufficient for Plex[*1].
$ mkdir /media/WinBackup/Test;echo This is a test
/media/WinBackup/Test/test;ls -lR /media/WinBackup
/media/WinBackup:
total 0
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 144 Nov 29 11:17 Test
/media/WinBackup/Test:
total 1
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Nov 29 11:17 test
[*1] I can make some modifications to permissions in the rule (default
mount options, user command is run as, commands that are run).
Let me know how it goes. Hope this makes sense, sorry if I've missed
posts - I can't get at my usual work machine remotely at present and
are reduced to using the Gmail web interface (sob).
Hey, thanks for all this!
I created a thumb drive for testing. Using the actual drive takes too
long, as the cable is awkward, the drive spins up and down, etc.
I added my uid/gid to the rule for jollies, so it mounts as me instead
of root. Plex should work in either case with wide-open 777 mode.
ACTION==add, PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/%k,
RESULT==ntfs,
ENV{mount_options}=%E{mount_options},utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000
There was a problem in the dir_name, so I changed these two lines:
#ACTION==add, PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s TYPE %E{device},
RESULT==ntfs,
ENV{mount_options}=%E{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002
ACTION==add, PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/%k,
RESULT==ntfs,
ENV{mount_options}=%E{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002
# Get label if present, otherwise assign one
#PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s LABEL %E{device}, ENV{dir_name}=%c
PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s LABEL /dev/%k, ENV{dir_name}=%c
When I unmount the drive, the directory is not deleted. The
owner/permissions change from me/777 to root/755. I see you have
commands for umount and rmdir (Clean up after removal), but I'm not
sure what is meant to kick those off. I pulled out the drive without
umounting first, not that I think you had that in mind, but that didn't
change the behaviour (much).
It seems that only root can umount the drive, but I've seen mention of
that for NTFS, or maybe it was udisks in general?
Almost there!
Regards,
Rick
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Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?
On 26/11/14 04:20 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 27/11/14 06:32, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On 26/11/14 08:24 AM, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On 26/11/14 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 26/11/14 16:14, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
snipped
Sorry for replying to my own post...
I see now that it's the XFCE's volume management that is initiating the
(hotplug) mount. Some digging found that udisks is involved, so I
attached strace to the udisks-daemon and found this:
[pid 29472] 10:58:32 execve(/sbin/mount.ntfs, [/sbin/mount.ntfs,
/dev/sdg2, /media/WinBackup_, -o,
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177],
[/* 3 vars */]) = 0
So the mode that I'd like to change is coming from the udisks-daemon (or
its parent). Strace on udevd shows that it's involved but I don't see
any file modes.
That's were I'm at now. I played with udev rules a bit but I've never
worked with them before.
Quick comment (I will get back to this later today or early tomorrow):-
grep ntfs /lib/udev/rules.d/*.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules:ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}==ntfs|vfat, \
If this does control the effect you note, (which is easy to determine),
then it's simple to create a rule based on it
(/etc/udev.d/$something.rule) that will treat your WinBackup disk
differently
I grabbed the src for udisks, but didn't get very far. It has code that
checks fstab and uses its entries if found, but that code isn't used. It
always makes a call to udev_glib instead.
Regards,
Rick
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Re: disk group (was ... Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?)
On 26/11/14 04:36 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: I vaguely remember reading somewhere (may have been on this list) that putting anybody in the disk group is a big no no, I think it was to do with security. *It is* (shoot foot material). So is setting ntfs-3g setuid. Which is another practise used for what the OP wanted to achieve - in the way he wanted to do it. Like sudo no password it's a common practise - in hindsight I should have refused to help with that option (I did suggest udev) - and there are other ways. Whether I'm misremembering or not it would be nice to get it cleared up. You didn't misremember it - unfettered access to raw disks is not good practise. I was wrong. Following those instructions could have caused the OP to inadvertently break Windows. Thanks, I've removed myself from the disk group. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5475dec0.4030...@shaw.ca
Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?
On 26/11/14 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 26/11/14 16:14, Rick Macdonald wrote: On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Sorry, I don't know what DE means! Desktop Environment e.g. GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc KFCE. ?? https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kfcesearchon=namessuite=allsection=all Gives me nothing :( Assuming the best intentions, and that KFCE isn't a typo - it still appears you are not running Debian, it's 'possible' you are using Mint - which is a Debian derivative. This the *Debian*-User list, the wrong place to expect support for anything other than Debian or Debian PureBlends for several[*1] reasons. Are you using Debian?? Scott, I really appreciate your time in helping me, and I realize it's not easy with my typo and perhaps mis-used terminology. As I hinted at, I've been running pure Debian for some 20 years. I forget how long I've been subscribed to this list, but it could be almost 20 years as well. That doesn't make me smart, just old (and happy with Debian). I did indeed mistype, and it should have been XFCE not KFCE. I've been googling and posting with the term auto-mount, but is this more properly hotplug? I'm not trying to get the USB drive to mount at boot; that I can do. It mounts when I plug the drive in to the running system, just not with the permissions that I need. I hope I didn't lead anyone to think I'm asking about a boot-time mount issue. Over the years the hot-plug system (if that's the name for it) seems to have changed a few times, and I admit I've never understood how hal, udev, etc worked/works. It's always worked to some extent, so I've never had to fuss with it. ntfs-3g's umask/dmask/fmask options all default to 0, but somebody is calling it with dmask=0077,fmask=0177. I haven't figured out the chain of commands involved. Regards, Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5475f0ae.6060...@shaw.ca
Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?
On 26/11/14 08:24 AM, Rick Macdonald wrote: On 26/11/14 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 26/11/14 16:14, Rick Macdonald wrote: On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Are you using Debian?? Scott, I really appreciate your time in helping me, and I realize it's not easy with my typo and perhaps mis-used terminology. As I hinted at, I've been running pure Debian for some 20 years. I forget how long I've been subscribed to this list, but it could be almost 20 years as well. That doesn't make me smart, just old (and happy with Debian). I did indeed mistype, and it should have been XFCE not KFCE. I've been googling and posting with the term auto-mount, but is this more properly hotplug? I'm not trying to get the USB drive to mount at boot; that I can do. It mounts when I plug the drive in to the running system, just not with the permissions that I need. I hope I didn't lead anyone to think I'm asking about a boot-time mount issue. Over the years the hot-plug system (if that's the name for it) seems to have changed a few times, and I admit I've never understood how hal, udev, etc worked/works. It's always worked to some extent, so I've never had to fuss with it. ntfs-3g's umask/dmask/fmask options all default to 0, but somebody is calling it with dmask=0077,fmask=0177. I haven't figured out the chain of commands involved. Sorry for replying to my own post... I see now that it's the XFCE's volume management that is initiating the (hotplug) mount. Some digging found that udisks is involved, so I attached strace to the udisks-daemon and found this: [pid 29472] 10:58:32 execve(/sbin/mount.ntfs, [/sbin/mount.ntfs, /dev/sdg2, /media/WinBackup_, -o, rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177], [/* 3 vars */]) = 0 So the mode that I'd like to change is coming from the udisks-daemon (or its parent). Strace on udevd shows that it's involved but I don't see any file modes. That's were I'm at now. I played with udev rules a bit but I've never worked with them before. Regards, Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54762adf.80...@shaw.ca
Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?
On 26/11/14 04:20 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 27/11/14 06:32, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On 26/11/14 08:24 AM, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On 26/11/14 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 26/11/14 16:14, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
snipped
Sorry for replying to my own post...
I see now that it's the XFCE's volume management that is initiating the
(hotplug) mount. Some digging found that udisks is involved, so I
attached strace to the udisks-daemon and found this:
[pid 29472] 10:58:32 execve(/sbin/mount.ntfs, [/sbin/mount.ntfs,
/dev/sdg2, /media/WinBackup_, -o,
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177],
[/* 3 vars */]) = 0
So the mode that I'd like to change is coming from the udisks-daemon (or
its parent). Strace on udevd shows that it's involved but I don't see
any file modes.
That's were I'm at now. I played with udev rules a bit but I've never
worked with them before.
Quick comment (I will get back to this later today or early tomorrow):-
grep ntfs /lib/udev/rules.d/*.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules:ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}==ntfs|vfat, \
If this does control the effect you note, (which is easy to determine),
then it's simple to create a rule based on it
(/etc/udev.d/$something.rule) that will treat your WinBackup disk
differently
Later.
I saw that rule last night, but it is in the section Partitions which
desktops should not display which didn't seem helpful.
Regards,
Rick
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How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?
Well, many hours of googling, and running grep on my entire filesystem, have failed me this time. I'm running up-to-date wheezy. How does one override or change to options fuse gives to ntfs-3g (if I have that right)? I have an NTFS filesystem on a USB-connected hard drive. With nothing in fstab, it gets auto-mounted as /media/WinBackup: syslog: Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Version 2012.1.15AR.5 external FUSE 29 Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mounted /dev/sdg2 (Read-Write, label WinBackup, NTFS 3.1) Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Cmdline options: rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177 Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mount options: rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,fsname=/dev/sdg2,blkdev,blksize=4096 Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Global ownership and permissions enforced, configuration type 7 According to the fuse man page, /etc/fuse.conf only supports mount_max and user_allow_other. I can mount it manually by adding the following entry to fstab (which somehow inhibits the automount), but I'd much rather have it auto mount whenever I plug it in. LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,blkdev,umask= 0 0 Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5474eea1.60...@timshel.ca
Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?
On 25/11/14 04:04 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 26/11/14 08:03, Rick Macdonald wrote: Well, many hours of googling, and running grep on my entire filesystem, have failed me this time. I'm running up-to-date wheezy. DE? Sorry, I don't know what DE means! It's an i386 desktop that's been running Debian since the 0.93 days in the mid-90's before Buzz was released (OK, it's gone through some hardware upgrades ;-). How does one override or change to options fuse gives to ntfs-3g (if I have that right)? I have an NTFS filesystem on a USB-connected hard drive. With nothing in fstab, it gets auto-mounted as /media/WinBackup: syslog: Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Version 2012.1.15AR.5 external FUSE 29 Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mounted /dev/sdg2 (Read-Write, label WinBackup, NTFS 3.1) Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Cmdline options: rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177 Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mount options: rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,fsname=/dev/sdg2,blkdev,blksize=4096 Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Global ownership and permissions enforced, configuration type 7 According to the fuse man page, /etc/fuse.conf only supports mount_max and user_allow_other. I can mount it manually by adding the following entry to fstab (which somehow inhibits the automount), but I'd much rather have it auto mount whenever I plug it in. Without knowing more about your Wheezy the easiest option is probably to create a custom udev rule. I'll look into that, but I hope to understand something about fuse/ntfs-3g since I've come this far. LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,blkdev,umask= 0 0 What does allow_other do? allow_other (man mount.fuse) lets users other than the one who mounted the filesystem access files. You'd think that's all I need, but it's already on the mount command line. The problem seems to be the dmask fmask values restrict access regardless. Why umask= (instead of 0022)? Why not uid=$username,gid=users All the options were copied from the mount options in the syslog above. I removed the ones that mount didn't like (blkdev and fsname). I wanted to start with what (I think) fuse is giving ntfs-3g on it's command line (not that that's a valid thing to do). fuse doesn't seem to be a binary executable, and I can't find where these command line args are coming from when mount is called. Do you want to retain and use standard Windows permissions? How many people will need access to the disk? Nobody else uses the machine, but I need the permissions opened up. When my WinXP server died I moved my videos to my Linux desktop. I usually use Serviio but thought I'd give Plex a try (Plex doesn't support XP so I couldn't give it a try until now). Plex runs as user plex and cannot read any of the files on this USB disk when mounted under my account with mode 600 permissions. Plex has an option to let the client delete videos, so while testing I chose . I could tell Plex to run as me, but that's no good because its files are installed under /var/lib/plexmediaserver, and if I change the ownership of those it would likely break upgrading Plex when the next deb file is released. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/547521cd.4090...@timshel.ca
Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?
On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Sorry, I don't know what DE means! Desktop Environment e.g. GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc KFCE. I had to abandon GNOME when they removed all the customization settings... but it's already on the mount command line. The problem seems to be the dmask fmask values restrict access regardless. No. You need to uncomment line 9 in /etc/fuse.conf so that allow_user will work in your fstab (from not-to-be relied on memory - it still won't allow a non-root user to umount the device). This is the line you need to uncomment:- #user_allow_other I had already uncommented that line, but it made no difference. I couldn't see that I had to restart any service. I didn't reboot. In which case I'd recommend:- *1.* uncommenting the user_allow_other line in /etc/fuse.conf *2.* changing the fstab line to:- LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000,permissions,auto,noatime 0 0 *3.* check that you are a member of the disk group (as a user:- groups |grep disk if you aren't, become one (as root)[*1]:- gpasswd -a $YourUsername disk [*1] groups won't show your changed group membership until after you've logged out, and logged back in. You can use the following if you need to double-check:- grep disk /etc/group OK, I tried all that and it makes no difference. With either line in fstab there are no messages in syslog from fuse/ntfs-3g about that partition, and I have to mount it manually. We're you expecting it to auto-mount? Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/547561b0.2010...@timshel.ca
Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?
On 25/11/14 10:14 PM, Rick Macdonald wrote: OK, I tried all that and it makes no difference. With either line in fstab there are no messages in syslog from fuse/ntfs-3g about that partition, and I have to mount it manually. We're you expecting it to auto-mount? The following run as root mounts it as me with mode 666, exactly what I want. The question is still, how on earth to pass the mask values during the auto-mount? ntfs-3g -o rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=,fmask= /dev/sdg2 /media/WinBackup Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54756730.8070...@timshel.ca
Re: DynDNS no longer free.
On 08/04/14 02:51 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: DynDNS just announced that their free hostname program in 30 days will no longer be gratis. I use that with ddclient to update the IP address for my blog. Are there other free alternatives? Some routers have built-in support for DDNS, so you don't even have to run ddclient or similar. My ASUS router lists these under AdvancedSettings-WAN-DDNS: www.asus.com www.dyndsn.org www.tzo.com www.zonedit.com www.dnsomatic.com www.tunnelbroker.net www.no-ip.com I only looked at a couple before deciding to use the free service from ASUS that is included with the router, so I don't know which of the above are actually free. The domain name is not pretty: [yourhostname].asuscomm.com, but that doesn't bother me for my usage. The biggest problem is that if I ever switch to another brand of modem, I have to suffer another change in service and domain name. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5346b97e.7070...@timshel.ca
Any reason not to run amd64 these days?
I've been running 32bit Debian since release 0.93, before buzz was released. I've been through a few PCs over these 20 years, and now my latest one is dying on me (HP Dual core Pentium D, 4GB RAM). I'd like to take a step up and get a machine with more memory (12 or 16GB). I've done some searching and it seems these days there are no limitations with having access to all Debian packages, especially if one uses the multi-arch feature. Still, I'd like to ask on the list here. Are there any issues with switching to amd64? What about drivers? The new machine will likely be an off-the-shelf HP I7-4470 CPU machine with an NVIDIA GeForce card, somewhere between a GT635 and a GTX660. What about running 32 bit windows and apps in wine or VMWare? Regards, Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52eeb18e.5080...@timshel.ca
Kernel panics after wheezy upgrade (but blaming hardware)
I finally updated my 32bit PC to wheezy in October. Shortly after, I started getting kernel panics (blinking CapsLock/Scroll Lock for about 10 seconds, then it would re-boot itself). I ran memtest for 14 hours; no errors. It often happened while watching videos in iceweasel, especially when seeking with the slider. It also happened with totem and an audio program again when seeking. It also happen on 3 occasions right after I clicked SEND in icedove. Often it would reboot on its own overnight. I admit I thought it was all due to software for many weeks. Then I started getting fsck errors during the re-boot. Then after running OK for an hour or so it started re-mounting the hard drive read-only without rebooting. I was seeing journal errors (ext3 filesystem). Then I saw a BIOS message saying a hard drive failure was imminent. I had a new drive that I wasn't using, so I set it up with ext4 partitions and copied everything to it, fixed up grub, and booted the new drive. It went back to kernel panics! I stole a Gateway desktop from my kids (similar CPU and memory). I put my harddrives (the new one), memory (4x1GB), gigabit LAN card and video card (GeForce 7300LE) into it. No problems at all. When swapping the video card I discovered that the fan was no longer working. I thought maybe an overheating video card could be to blame but it's run for 2 days now without a kernel panic. That pretty much leaves the blame on the original machine's mother board and power supply. I replaced the power supply a few years ago (Antec Earthwatts 430W EA-430D). The machine is an HP Pavillion MutilMedia TV PC, so there's an Hauppage TV tuner card installed. I didn't try removing that. I don't use it but I still have remnants installed from when I played with ivtv some years ago. Any comments about all this? I kind welcome the excuse to buy a new PC with a better video card and more memory (and 64bit), but it would be nice to know what's wrong with the machine before I through it out. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52eeb75a.9040...@timshel.ca
Re: Any reason not to run amd64 these days?
Thanks, Ralf. I do use a couple of 32bit DAWs: Reaper and Power Tracks Pro. I use them in wine but I also have VMWare. If I just stick with the 32bit versions of the DAWs, all the 32bit VST plugins should be OK, right? Or are you saying there could still be issues? Rick On 02/02/14 03:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2014-02-02 at 13:58 -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote: Are there any issues with switching to amd64? What about drivers? There aren't issues. What about running 32 bit windows and apps in wine Wine and at least VBox can do this. There might be issues for 32-bit VSTs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52eecc4c.80...@timshel.ca
Sawfish wm won't start from gdm3
I recently (finally) upgraded from lenny to squeeze. All seems well except if I choose the sawfish window manager from the gdm3 greeter, the dialog goes away and it just sits with the debian logo and the stars background. I can't find any error messages anywhere (~/.xsession-errors). If I start up gnome with the default wm, metacity, I can kill metacity and run sawfish from an xterm: killall metacity; sawfish Any ideas why it won't start from the gdm3 greeter? Regards, Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/503d23df.7090...@shaw.ca
Re: how to check whether a package has been installed
Martin Paraskevov wrote: rpm lets you check whether a packege has been installed. is this possible to do with apt-get or some other tool as well? Here are a couple, not to mention the various GUIs: rickmlinux:~# dpkg --get-selections|grep apt apt install apt-utils install aptitudeinstall gnome-apt install synapticinstall rickmlinux:~# dpkg -s apt Package: apt Status: install ok installed Priority: important Section: base Installed-Size: 3664 Maintainer: APT Development Team deity@lists.debian.org Architecture: i386 Version: 0.5.28.6 Replaces: libapt-pkg-doc ( 0.3.7), libapt-pkg-dev ( 0.3.7) Provides: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libgcc1 (= 1:3.4.1-3), libstdc++5 (= 1:3.3.4-1) Suggests: aptitude | synaptic | gnome-apt | wajig, dpkg-dev, apt-doc Description: Advanced front-end for dpkg This is Debian's next generation front-end for the dpkg package manager. It provides the apt-get utility and APT dselect method that provides a simpler, safer way to install and upgrade packages. . APT features complete installation ordering, multiple source capability and several other unique features, see the Users Guide in apt-doc. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to check whether a package has been installed
Rick Macdonald wrote: Martin Paraskevov wrote: rpm lets you check whether a packege has been installed. is this possible to do with apt-get or some other tool as well? Here are a couple, not to mention the various GUIs: rickmlinux:~# dpkg --get-selections|grep apt apt install apt-utils install aptitudeinstall gnome-apt install synapticinstall rickmlinux:~# dpkg -s apt Package: apt Sorry, bad copy/paste job. This should be: rickmlinux:~# dpkg -s apt Package: apt Status: install ok installed ...etc... Somebody else just offered dpkg -l. I like that better because it shows the versions: rickmlinux:~# dpkg -l|grep apt ii apt0.5.28.6 Advanced front-end for dpkg ii apt-utils 0.5.28.6 APT utility programs ii aptitude 0.2.15.9-1 terminal-based apt frontend ii gnome-apt 0.4.7-1.2 graphical package manager ii libpcap0 0.6.2-2System interface for user-level packet captu ii libpcap0.7 0.7.2-7System interface for user-level packet captu ii libpcap0.8 0.8.3-5System interface for user-level packet captu ii synaptic 0.55+cvs200503 Graphical package manager If you know the eact pavkage name you get to see the column headings: ;-) rickmlinux:~# dpkg -l apt Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii apt0.5.28.6 Advanced front-end for dpkg Status: install ok installed Priority: important Section: base Installed-Size: 3664 Maintainer: APT Development Team deity@lists.debian.org Architecture: i386 Version: 0.5.28.6 Replaces: libapt-pkg-doc ( 0.3.7), libapt-pkg-dev ( 0.3.7) Provides: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libgcc1 (= 1:3.4.1-3), libstdc++5 (= 1:3.3.4-1) Suggests: aptitude | synaptic | gnome-apt | wajig, dpkg-dev, apt-doc Description: Advanced front-end for dpkg This is Debian's next generation front-end for the dpkg package manager. It provides the apt-get utility and APT dselect method that provides a simpler, safer way to install and upgrade packages. . APT features complete installation ordering, multiple source capability and several other unique features, see the Users Guide in apt-doc. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows-toolbar behavior in gnome (your not going to believe this!)
I have looked fairly carefully at the metacity.schemas file and I have not found a way to alter the window behavior to customize metacity. I'm now using KDE because gnome/metacity had diminished my productivty. I miss the simplicity of gnome's presentation and would use it again I think sawfish gives you the controls you want. Here is how to switch to sawfish after installing sawfish and sawfish-gnome. gnome-session-properties Go to the Current Session tab. Find metacity in the list of running programs, and change the Style drop down box from Restart to Normal. Now you can kill metacity without it immediately respawning. killall metacity sawfish To get it to save sawfish as your WM, go to the Session Options and select Automatically save changes to session. Then go to the Focus tab on the Windows settings in Desktop Preferences (or run sawfish-ui directly). I had focus given to new windows for a few days but turned it off just now because I found it to be a PITA. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I just installed etch on a new destop. xset -q shows dpms is off. If I enable it with xset +dpms dpms 300 600 900 it somehow gets turned off some while later. How do I get the setting to stick? I forgot to mention that I'm using Gnome. I have a sarge installation with Gnome but still using xfree, not xorg. Its screensaver (GUI) config has DPMS settings and works fine. The new etch installation doesn't seem to use the same xscreensaver. Running xset dpms off will put the monitor into the off state. ...for awhile, but then it turns back on! I have DPMS in my xorg.conf file. I'm currently running the nv driver. I haven't had time yet to build my own kernel and switch to the nvidia driver. The video is a Geforce 7300LE. Section Monitor Identifier SEC:5034 HorizSync 28-50 VertRefresh 43-75 Option DPMS EndSection ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpms keeps turning off
I just installed etch on a new destop. xset -q shows dpms is off. If I enable it with xset +dpms dpms 300 600 900 it somehow gets turned off some while later. How do I get the setting to stick? Running xset dpms off will put the monitor into the off state. I have DPMS in my xorg.conf file. I'm currently running the nv driver. I haven't had time yet to build my own kernel and switch to the nvidia driver. The video is a Geforce 7300LE. Section Monitor Identifier SEC:5034 HorizSync 28-50 VertRefresh 43-75 Option DPMS EndSection ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Manoj Srivastava wrote: 4% $Get_Root make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image Manoj - I've switched from --revision= to --append-to-version because new kernels of the same version don't clash module directories. It seems much better to me. Do you still prefer --revision for some reason? ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sunbird?
Gregory Seidman wrote: I've started using Sunbird 0.2 at work (under Windows, sadly) and I really like it. I'd love to be using it at home, too, but there doesn't seem to be a sunbird package in table, testing, or unstable. Does anyone know where I can find a .deb, or even a deb-src repository? I'd prefer release 2.0 to a nightly build, if it's available. I've been using it since April. I just downloaded the Linux tarfile from the Mozilla site, as I recall. I just run it from where I untar'd it, as you can see in this script: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/src/sunbird/sunbird-0.2-i686-pc-linux-gnu/sunbird:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH exec /usr/local/src/sunbird/sunbird-0.2-i686-pc-linux-gnu/sunbird/sunbird-bin If there is a deb package someday, I don't have a mess to clean up. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless PCI Cards - Which Work?
Thomas H. George wrote: I did a Google search and found forlorn messages from someone trying to get a Linksys PCI card to work. I have one of those too and wasted over a month two years ago trying to get it to work. Finally gave up and bought the Netgear card which, with a little start up script, worked like a charm. The point of this message? Two years have gone by since my struggles with the Linklsys card and we have progressed from Woody to Sarge and from 2.4 to 2.6 kernels. I thought the problems would all be history but the Google search indicates this is not the case. I bought a LinkSys WRT54GS router and WPC54GS card for my laptop and it works fine. (kernel 2.6.8). It was only back in March but I don't remember many details. I think I already had hotplug/udev/hal etc installed. I even have an icron on the menubar showing the signal strength. I found the following in /etc/network/interfaces just now, but there is probably more to it all. This isn't enough to be helpful but I just wanted to point out the the LinkSys card does work for me. # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface # automatically added when upgrading auto lo iface lo inet loopback mapping hotplug script echo iface wlan0 inet dhcp wireless-essid MySecretEssid wireless-mode Managed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting a Dinamic Remote IP
Charles Hallenbeck wrote: Hi, You need to obtain a program called ddclient from the dyndns.org site, which you run on your system. It will check to see if dyndns.org has the correct IP address every few minutes, and tell dyndns.org about it when it changes. It's also a debian package: apt-get install ddclient However, the deb version is 3.6.2 but the latest is actually 3.6.6. Changelog 3.6.6 - support for olitec-SX200 - added sample-etc_rc.d_init.d_ddclient.lsb as a sample script for lsb-compliant systems. - support for linksys wrt854g (thanks to Nick Triantos) - support for linksys ver 3 - support for Thomson (Alcatel) SpeedTouch 510 (thanks to Aldoir) - Cosmetic fixes submitted by John Owens 3.6.5 - there was a bug in the linksys-ver2 - support for postscript (thanks to Larry Hendrickson) - Changelog out of README - modified all documentation to use /etc/ddclient/ddclient.conf (notified by nicolasmartin in bug [1070646]) 3.6.4 - added support for NameCheap service (thanks to Dan Boardman) - added support for linksys ver2 (thanks to Dan Perik) 3.6.3 - renamed sample-etc_dhclient-enter-hooks to sample-etc_dhclient-exit-hooks - add support for the Allnet 1298 Router - add -a to ifconfig to query all interfaces (for Solaris and OpenBSD) - update the process status to reflect what is happening. - add a To: line when sending e-mail - add mail-failure to send mail on failures only - try all addresses for multihomed hosts (like check.dyndns.org) - add support for dnspark - add sample for OrgDNS.org ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting a Dinamic Remote IP
Colin Ingram wrote: I would get a dynamic dns account so you can ssh to foo.domain and never have to worry about the ip again. try http://www.dyndns.org/ ;the service I use Which update client do you use? ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?
Roy Pluschke said:
On February 9, 2004 04:42 pm, Rick Macdonald wrote:
timidity is installed and works but I need true midi now.
I don't understand the above statement. Timidity is/has true midi. To run
timidity as a alsa synth start up timidity like this:
timidity -Os -iA -B2,8
Its best to have timidity suid root so that it can use the real time
scheduler/clock or whatever it is called.
Yes, this works fine! So far I just tried pmidi -p 128:0.
Now what I really need to do is get the test program working (code is
below), so I need to know an actual device name, but I can't get it
working.
I straced pmidi:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/SRC$ strace -f pmidi -p 128:0 ~/Rainbow4.mid 21 | grep
/dev
open(/dev/snd/seq, O_RDWR)= 3
and it seems that it uses /dev/snd/seq, but playmidi doesn't like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/SRC$ playmidi -D /dev/snd/seq ~/Rainbow4.mid
Playmidi 2.4 Copyright (C) 1994-1997 Nathan I. Laredo, AWE32 by Takashi Iwai
playmidi: No playback device found.
However, telling playmidi to use external midi does work:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/SRC$ strace -f playmidi -e ~/Rainbow4.mid 21 |grep seq
open(/dev/sequencer, O_WRONLY)= 3
Requested buffer size 2048, fragment size 1024
ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 2048, period size 1024 bytes
But putting -D /dev/sequencer on the playmidi command line does _not_ work.
I've tried all these device names in the code below and none work. Any
idea how to get the test program to work? (I tried adding a sleep(3)
before the close in case it was cutting off the note, but it didn't help).
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/SRC$ playmidi --help
Playmidi 2.4 Copyright (C) 1994-1997 Nathan I. Laredo, AWE32 by Takashi Iwai
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
For details please see the file COPYING.
usage: playmidi [-options] file1 [file2 ...]
-v verbosity (additive)
-i x ignore channels set in bitmask x (hex)
-c x play only channels set in bitmask x (hex)
-x x exclude channel x from playable bitmask
-p [c,]x play program x on channel c (all if no c)
-V [c,]x play channel c with volume x (all if no c)
-t x skew tempo by x (float)
-d don't play any percussion
-P x play percussion on channel x
-e output to external midi
-D x output to midi device x
-f output to fm (sb patches)
-4 output to 4-op fm (opl/3 patches)
-a output to awe32 wave synth
-h x skip to header x in large archive
-g output to gravis ultrasound
-E x play channels in bitmask x external
-F x play channels in bitmask x on fm
-G x play channels in bitmask x on gus
-A x play channels in bitmask x on awe32
-z ignore channel of all events
-8 force 8-bit samples on GUS
-M enable MT-32 to GM translation mode
-I show list of all GM programs (see -p)
-R x set initial reverb to x (0-127)
-C x set initial chorus to x (0-127)
-r real-time playback graphics
I couldn't seem to get amidi to work either:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ amidi -p hw:128,0 -S 90 40 ef
cannot open port hw:128,0: No such device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/SRC$ pmidi -l
Port Client name Port name
64:0 Rawmidi 0 - EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UEMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART)
65:0 Emu10k1 WaveTable Emu10k1 Port 0
65:1 Emu10k1 WaveTable Emu10k1 Port 1
65:2 Emu10k1 WaveTable Emu10k1 Port 2
65:3 Emu10k1 WaveTable Emu10k1 Port 3
128:0 Client-128TiMidity port 0
128:1 Client-128TiMidity port 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/SRC$ amidi -l
DeviceName
hw:0,0EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART)
hw:0,1Emu10k1 Synth MIDI (16 subdevices)
hw:0,2Emu10k1 Synth MIDI (16 subdevices)
My midi test program:
//
// Programmer:Craig Stuart Sapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
// Creation Date: Mon Dec 21 18:00:42 PST 1998
// Last Modified: Mon Dec 21 18:00:42 PST 1998
// Filename: ...linuxmidi/output/method1.c
// Syntax:C
// $Smake:gcc -O -o devmidiout devmidiout.c strip devmidiout
//
#include linux/soundcard.h
#include unistd.h
#include fcntl.h
#include stdio.h
int main(void) {
// char* device = /dev/midi ;
char* device = /dev/sequencer ;
unsigned char data[3] = {0x90, 60, 127};
// step 1: open the OSS device for writing
int fd = open(device, O_WRONLY, 0);
if (fd 0) {
printf(Error: cannot open %s\n, device);
exit(1);
}
// step 2: write the MIDI information to the OSS device
write(fd, data, sizeof(data));
// step 3: (optional) close the OSS device
close(fd);
return 0;
}
...RickM...
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ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?
In order to get MIDI going I upgraded to sid, updated kernel 2.4.19 to 2.4.24 and switched form the kernel sound driver to ALSA. Everything still works (xmms can play mp3 to ALSA output, for example), but still no MIDI sound. lsmod shows all the modules as shown below. Playing a midi file goes through the motions (no errors) but no sound. I unmuted and turned up the volume on every device in alsamixer. Searching the web and Debian site uncovered that I may need to load sound fonts with sfxload, but it's not clear to me if this is still required or not. Also, the awesfx package no longer exists. What do I need to do next? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod Module Size Used byTainted: P snd-pcm-oss39172 0 snd-seq-midi4032 0 (autoclean) snd-seq-oss29600 0 (autoclean) snd-mixer-oss 13392 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] snd-emu10k1-synth 4636 0 snd-emu10k174532 7 [snd-emu10k1-synth] snd-pcm60068 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-emu10k1] snd-hwdep 5280 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-page-alloc 6452 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm] snd-ac97-codec 47532 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-emux-synth 28156 0 [snd-emu10k1-synth] snd-util-mem1264 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-emux-synth] snd-seq-midi-emul 5008 0 [snd-emux-synth] snd-seq-virmidi 3288 0 [snd-emux-synth] snd-seq-midi-event 3264 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-virmidi] snd-seq36784 2 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-emux-synth snd-se q-midi-emul snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-midi-event] snd-timer 14724 0 [snd-pcm snd-seq] snd-rawmidi13504 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-emu10k1 snd-seq-virmidi] snd-seq-device 4304 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-emu10k1-synth snd -emu10k1 snd-emux-synth snd-seq snd-rawmidi] snd32004 7 [snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-mixer -oss snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm snd-hwdep snd-ac97-codec snd-emux-synth snd-util-mem sn d-seq-virmidi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-timer snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] nvidia 1962496 6 (autoclean) ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh said: On Mon, 09 Feb 2004, Rick Macdonald wrote: Searching the web and Debian site uncovered that I may need to load sound fonts with sfxload, but it's not clear to me if this is still required or not. Also, the awesfx package no longer exists. What do I need to do next? You can either use timidity (software synthesis), or you need to find something to upload the soundfonts to the wavetable synthesizer in your Live card. And the soundfonts as well, of course. timidity is installed and works but I need true midi now. Any idea why awesfx was removed from the Debian packages? I found one on the web (awesfx_0.4.4-5_i386.deb). I found some SF2 files (CT4MGM.SF2 CT8MGM.SF2) from my Windows machine with an SB Extigy. Will they work? Somewhere I have the CDs from the SBLive card if I need them. Can I mess up the SBLive card running sfxload? ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?
Roy - thanks for all the info! I've had timidity installed and working for years, but I gather it does more than I thought. I might be able to get by with it after all. Am I correct in assuming that with ALSA my MIDI H/W ports are probably working now? I haven't had a chance to test yet. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci | grep SB 02:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08) 02:0d.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 08) Roy Pluschke said: On February 9, 2004 04:42 pm, Rick Macdonald wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh said: On Mon, 09 Feb 2004, Rick Macdonald wrote: Searching the web and Debian site uncovered that I may need to load sound fonts with sfxload, but it's not clear to me if this is still required or not. Also, the awesfx package no longer exists. What do I need to do next? You can either use timidity (software synthesis), or you need to find something to upload the soundfonts to the wavetable synthesizer in your Live card. And the soundfonts as well, of course. timidity is installed and works but I need true midi now. Any idea why awesfx was removed from the Debian packages? I found one on the web (awesfx_0.4.4-5_i386.deb). I found some SF2 files (CT4MGM.SF2 CT8MGM.SF2) from my Windows machine with an SB Extigy. Will they work? Somewhere I have the CDs from the SBLive card if I need them. Can I mess up the SBLive card running sfxload? I use the awesfx package on my debian box without any problems (soundblaster live card). The sound fonts that come with the soundcard are called 2gmgsmt.sf2, 4gmgsmt.sf2 and 8mbgmsfx.sf2 which I'm sure you can find with a quick google. Note that using the cards wave synth under alsa drops an occasional note. See the alsa home page about this bug. timidity is installed and works but I need true midi now. I don't understand the above statement. Timidity is/has true midi. To run timidity as a alsa synth start up timidity like this: timidity -Os -iA -B2,8 Its best to have timidity suid root so that it can use the real time scheduler/clock or whatever it is called. In your application i.e. rosegarden or noteedit just select the timidity synth instead of the soundcard synth. The timidity samples are much better that the 8mb sound fonts that come by default with the soundblaster cards. R.J.P. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cloning Debian hard drive
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.gz Peter Nuttall said: On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 4:27 pm, Victory wrote: Hello all, Now I have a working system, and want to clone it hard drive so that I can install the newly clone hard drive to many identical system configuration rather than install from CD and customize lots of stuff ??? 1, Is there way to clone this hard drive ? 2, Is it possible to create bootable CD of the working system so that when I boot to new system from CD it will install exact the same with the working system I have now. Any help/advice would be very much appreciated. Regards, Victor hi on 1: If it were me and I wanted to do this once I would put the hard disk in the working system, format the disk with cfdisk, and then just use konqueror to copy the whole file system over. This is a btute force method and someone else of the mailing list will have something easier and more elangant. on 2: I guess that there is something to do this but the only thing I can suggest is the progeny autoinstall thingy. sorry that I have not been very helpful pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new mozilla version in stable ?
I've never used any unofficial debs, but a few weeks ago the Debian Weekly News announced unofficial backports of newer versions of mozilla, OpenOffice and a couple other packages. This seemed somewhat official and somewhat part of, or somewhat condoned by, Debian. Any comments on this particular set of debs? Vineet Kumar said: * Ole-Christian S. Hagenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20030312 06:23 PST]: On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 02:07:23PM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote: Hello everybody, I heard of a friend there is a way to get a newer version than 1.0.0 in the stable Debian - but I can't find it. Can anybody tell me what to add to the /etc/apt/sources.list ? A good start would be to take a look at URL:http://apt-get.org/ which is a list of unofficial apt sources. Note that unofficial apt sources means precisely not in Debian. Sure, you can download stuff in .deb format, and you can use apt to do it, but that doesn't make it part of Debian. Woody (Debian stable) has 1.0.0. That's it. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- --Nick Moffitt A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Safe to make long jump from potato to sarge/sid?
Is it OK to run apt-get dist-upgrade to update a potato install to sid, or would it be safer just upgrading to woody first, the to sid? ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?
If you did apt-get update after changing sources.list, then the subsequent apt-get dist-upgrade has you running unstable, which is sid. by way of Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Howdy List! I'm exploring Debian via the Koppix CD, which I installed to an empty partition on my RedHat 8 box. After installation, I modified my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib At this point, I did an apt-get dist-upgrade. Which completed... So, am I now running Sid, Sarge, or WTF? I had tried an install via Woody images and had a bad experience. The Knoppix install worked well, but I'm curious as to where I am after the apt-get dist-upgrade. Thanks from a Debian Newbie, Jeff Elkins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CRASHING HARD DRIVE
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: Hi All, I know that this has been discussed before so I apologize for asking again. I believe that my hard drive is on its last leg. Can I do a quick and dirty bzip2 / and will that bzip2 by drive so that I can copy it to another, then do the bunzip2? I'm looking for a easy solution, I can re-install, that's not a problem, I just hate to loose some programs that I have installed. Thanks in advance. Don Don - you didn't say what the drive problem looks like, but once when I was just about to replace a drive I ram memtest and found that bad memory was the problem causing corrupted files on disk. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recover ext3 deletion
My file was dated 1996 and I too have no idea where it came from. The following makes it even more obvious: PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ ' Brian Potkin said: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 05:43:21PM -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote: Why doesn't the prompt for root ever include showing the current directory? That would probably have saved this poor fellow as he may have seen that he was not in /floppy as he thought. Surely it is relatively easy to change the prompt to whatever is desired. In root's .bashrc on this machine I have export PS1='\h:\w\$ ' which gives what you suggest. The file dates from 1998 so I really cannot recollect whether it came as the default prompt or it was put there by me. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recover ext3 deletion
Why doesn't the prompt for root ever include showing the current directory? That would probably have saved this poor fellow as he may have seen that he was not in /floppy as he thought. On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 09:45:40PM +, Harvey Kelly wrote: Dear All, Oh my. I cannot believe what I did. # rm -rf * Whilst in my /home directory - I thought I was in /floppy. I've been digging around and stumbled across recover, but seem unable (?) to get it to work, though I have ext3, not ext2 on the drive. I run as root: recover -a Scanning devices... Ext2 devices: recover: No valid standard devices found; are you a privileged user? If your device is not listed, you can still use it Please enter the partition's device name To which I enter /dev/hda7 Getting inodes (this can take some time)... debugfs 1.27 (8-Mar-2002) Terminated And I'm back at the prompt, with nothing recovered as I can tell. Please, where am I going wrong? In addition to losing everything (no back-ups, I know, I know), a 3,000 word essay due in Monday has been lost. As far as I am aware debugfs can cope with an ext3 filesystem so see if this helps. As root type debugfs /dev/hdb7 at the prompt. You should see something like this. debugfs 1.30-WIP (30-Sep-2002) debugfs: Now enter lsdel for a list of deleted inodes, file sizes and deletion times. The output is piped through a pager. You will have to use file size and deletion time as a guide to which file you want to recover. The final step is debugfs: dump inode number /tmp/foo.txt Note the angle brackets. Ideally you should have unmounted the partition immediately so that nothing has been written to it. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: best way to have gcc-3.2 on woody?
I installed gcc (g++ and g77) 3.2 last week or so. I added sarge to my sources.list, then ran apt-get update, then installed al the 3.c ompiler packages, then removed sarge from sources.list and ran apt-get update again. I do this often, sometimes even from sid. When I run the apt-get install I use the -d -u flags first to see what it's going to do. If it wants to drag lots of other packages along at the same time, I sometimes change my mind and do without. There are probably more elegant ways to do this these days... Enrico Zini said: On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:34:03AM -0200, Klaus Imgrund wrote: That has nothing to do the compiler as far as I can see - mencoder works for me compiled with gcc 2.96 - no problem.The guys at the mplayer lists Fine for that. But suppose I'm doing some C++ development in woody, and that I've written some piece of legal code using some advanced C++ feature (like throwing exceptions created using multiple inheritance) that only g++3.2 gets right. In that case, I'd like to have g++3.2 available, but I wouldn't want to go through the assle to run an unstable system. What would then be the best way to have gcc-3.2 on wooy? Bye, Enrico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quicken under debian
Neal Lippman said: I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution for using Quicken on my debian woody system. Quicken is essentially the ONLY windows application that I still need, and thus is the only reason that my laptop still has windows98 loaded on it. As far as I can tell, wine does not yet support Quicken, I've been running Quicken 2000 on an old version of wine (Wine release 2526) for two years using Win95 DDLs. No problem. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Comments on the new gnome-terminal.
Alex Malinovich said: On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 14:11, Alan Shutko wrote: Alex Malinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a config file for this terminal anywhere that I can edit by hand so I can at least get a working font set up? ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/%gconf.xml I'm sure there's some way to get gconftool to do it, but I couldn't figure out how. Are you having any luck getting any changes in there to actually stick? I've found the x_font line, but changing the font doesn't have any effect. Changing the font from within the terminal works after I restart the terminal, but the change is never reflected in %gconf.xml I believe the release notes for Gnome-2 say that you have to exit to get changes to take effect, and that this will be fixed for the next (minor) release. Have a look at the release notes. They say the purposely removed many configuration options throughout Gnome. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian take on UnitedLinux?
Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? http://computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0%2C10801%2C71535%2C00.html?nlid=AM ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?
Paul Johnson said: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. 8:o) I wrote to Caldera asking if UnitedLinux is Debian based like their OpenLinux. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?
Google is so amazing I hardly need to post to lists anymore. Sometimes I try it before looking at man pages. ;-) Entering lsb gives this as the first hit: Linux Standard Base Latest Happenings, About the LSB. Specification Proposals The latest draft of various specification proposals are now listed on the specification sub-page. ...Description: The goal of the Linux Standard Base (LSB) is to develop and promote a set of standards that will...Category: Computers Software Operating Systems Linux Projects Standardswww.linuxbase.org/ - 8k - 30 May 2002 - Cached - Similar pages Quenten Griffith said: You know Ben its people like you that make posting anything to newsgroups unenjoyable. I did go to those links and they don't really give a great description exactly what it is. Did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed or are you always just completely rude to other people? ben wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 12:29 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: And what exactly is LSB? [snip] http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ you see those linky type things? they're actually addresses you can go to on the web. you know what the web is, don't you? jeez, dude, does your mommy move the mouse for you? ben ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: squirrelmail -- php4 -- imp login failure
Thomas R. Shemanske said: Both squirrelmail and imp are installed on several machines in our department, but they are used infrequently. The last time I used them was in March when they worked fine; a few days ago, I was unable to login on any installation with either squirrelmail or imp. One setup is sid with squirrelmail 1.2.6-1 apache 1.3.24-3 php4 4.2.1-2 imp2.2.6-5 uw-imapd-ssl 2001adebian-6 Mine works fine (sid). I have the same versions of squirrelmail and apache, but version 4.1.2-4 of php4. I use courier imap and don't have imp or uw-imapd-ssl installed. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bradcast2000 for Woody?
I get this: Get:1 http://http.demudi.org woody/local bcast 2000c-1 [3373kB] Fetched 3373kB in 37s (90.1kB/s) Selecting previously deselected package bcast. (Reading database ... 82734 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking bcast (from .../bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/cjpeg.1.gz', which is also in package libjpeg-progsErrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Tom Massey said: On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 06:46:56PM -0400, stan wrote: Anyone know where i can get this? Add: deb http://http.demudi.org/debian woody local main contrib non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update, apt-get install bcast. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bradcast2000 for Woody?
Tom Massey said: On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 09:15:29PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: I get this: Get:1 http://http.demudi.org woody/local bcast 2000c-1 [3373kB] Fetched 3373kB in 37s (90.1kB/s) Selecting previously deselected package bcast. (Reading database ... 82734 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking bcast (from .../bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/cjpeg.1.gz', which is also in package libjpeg-progsErrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I don't have libjpeg-progs installed, so don't have this problem. You could uninstall libjpeg-progs I guess to install bcast. Note that this isn't an official Debian package. I just ran dpkg -i --force-overwrite and got it installed. I copied the packager on this email; perhaps he'd be interested in the problem. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI front-end for writing CD audio to CD-R?
Paul Baloo Johnson said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 May 2002, Mike Frisch wrote: Can somebody recommend a decent GUI front-end for writing CD audio to CD-R? Essentially a wrapper for cdrecord and some utility to convert MP3 to WAV. I am looking for something easy to use and reliable. MP3 to WAV, I use xmms with the disk writer output plugin. For the burning process itself, I use cdroast. (Baloo - I tried to reply to you privately but the mail bounced) I hope you don't mind this question, but do you know if xmms supports marking start/end points and writing out just that section? I looked but couldn't see such a feature, so I starting testing audacity. It does the job, but is tedious to find the start/end points (15 minutes of an hour-long radio program). I end up using xmms (with it's easy slider control) to find the section I want and then extract it with audacity. ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there any tool like purify(memory leak check tool) for LI
Paul Smith said: %% Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sp none of them are as cool and featureful as purify. Of all of the sp tools I have used, I miss that one most. Unfortunately apps like sp that are decidedly hard to write and the commercial ones are sp REALLY expensive for most home hackers. We'd buy it at work in a heartbeat if it were available on Linux: Purify _is_ cool. But, it's not available on Linux and I've not heard Rational provide any details on whether it ever will be :(. Parasoft's Insure++ is a Purify competetor and runs on Linux. It's not cheap, but neither is Purify. We may well switch because we've become fed up with Rational's dwindling interest in supporting UNIX platforms as well as they used to. Also, we're using Linux in the company now and need a product that runs on LInux. http://www.parasoft.com/jsp/products.jsp ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smail drops off; what to replace it with? exim?
dman said: | Ah, yes, I think you're right: | | timshel# apt-get install -d exim ... | I just tried the above and then exited. I didn't actually run it yet, See the '-s' option. It tells apt to simulate the operation, but to not actually try to execute it. It also gives more details (versions and which release the package will be pulled from). Ah, thanks! I did't know that option. It didn't seem to complain. I won't actualy try the installation tonight because we're in the middle of a snowstorm and the lights are flickering like crazy... timshel# apt-get -s install exim Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: smail The following NEW packages will be installed: exim 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 423 not upgraded. Remv smail (3.2.0.114-4 Debian:unstable) [courier-imap mutt at qpopper mailx ] Inst exim (3.35-1 Debian:unstable) Conf exim (3.35-1 Debian:unstable) ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smail drops off; what to replace it with? exim?
smail keeps dropping off my woody system and I have to continually restart it. Rather than deal with the problem I thought I'd just replace it. A newer woody system seems to have exim. The system with smail has been running Debian _before_ the first offical release (buzz I think). Should I switch to exim, or sendmail? If it matters, I run fetchmail/procmail to get mail from various places. The mail goes into maildirs which I read with squirrelmail and apache with courier-imap. I think smail started having problems when I added procmail/imap to my system. I've never tried to replace a package that has many packages that require it. What do I tell apt to get it to remove smail and install its replacement? ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smail drops off; what to replace it with? exim?
Vineet Kumar said: * Rick Macdonald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020502 15:31]: I've never tried to replace a package that has many packages that require it. What do I tell apt to get it to remove smail and install its replacement? apt-get install exim Ah, yes, I think you're right: timshel# apt-get install -d exim Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: smail The following NEW packages will be installed: exim I just tried the above and then exited. I didn't actually run it yet, but it looks like it should do the right thing. Thanks! ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need some sound advice - SB Live!
Derek Williams said: ALSA is still officially beta, so the packages are still in a state of flux; it always seems at least a bit broken when I try them with my SBLive. I have gotten alsa working with my sblive... don't think I did anything special. Running alsaconf always seemed to get it working properly. If I remember anything special that I had to do to get it working I'll post it Do you know if alsa (or the kernel drivers) support MIDI on the SBLive? ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla issues
curtis said:
One problem that bothers me with mozilla is printing. I can't seem to
figure out how to add a printer to Mozilla, which might resolve this
situation.
Otherwise, my default printer is listed as PostScript/default and the
print command under properties is for lprng (I use cups). So,
basically everytime I print I open the properties and enter just lp.
Then I can print. There has to be a way to permanently edit the
print command and to add printers. Could someone help me on this?
I don't use Mizilla yet, but in /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref/unix.js I see
these lines:
// On Solaris/IRIX, this should be lp
pref(print.print_command, lpr
${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME});
pref(print.printer_list, ); // list of printers, seperated by spaces
pref(print.print_reversed, false);
pref(print.print_color, true);
pref(print.print_landscape, false);
pref(print.print_paper_size, 0);
...RickM...
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Re: Need some sound advice - SB Live!
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Bill Moseley wrote: Argh! - HOWTO overload. I've got a Sound Blaster Live Value. I'm running Debian Testing. I've build my own kernel 2.4.17 from kernel-source package. I did build the emu10k1 module. I ran modconf and selected emu10k1. emu10k1 loads fine without errors. I can cp some .wav files to /dev/audio and hear the sound. Some .wav files sound ok, some others sound bad. I and others have found that cat'ing to /dev/audio will sound bad but playing the same file with one program or another (try xanim) will sound good. IE, don't use writing directly to /dev as a test. ...RickM...
Re: SquirrelMail help
I recently installed Squirrelmail when I login it just times out, anyone that have had the same problem? I get this error: Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /usr/share/squirrelmail/functions/imap_general.php on line 87 I had this exact error a few days ago. In my case, I had called my mail directory ~/maildir. I renamed it to ~/Maildir and it started working. I also ran /etc/squirrelmail/conf.pl and set a few parameters, but I think it was the Maildir name that fixed it. I had success with an mbox to maildir conversion script that I found with a web search. It's called mb2md-2. Google will find it. ...RickM...
Re: How to use SquirrelMail?
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Ian Duggan wrote: I don't understand if IMAPs role is simply to serve up the mail to the remote client and allow deleting, moving to other folders, etc, or if it will want to replace my existing steps of fetchmail/procmail. Think of IMAP as like POP, but leaving everything on the server. IMAP is just for serving your mail. It also has the notion of folders on the server, rather than being managed by your local mail client. I.e. whatever mail client I open up and point at my IMAP server, I see the same set of folders. No need to set them up on each client again. Which IMAP package should I use? I have used courier-imap for years with great success. My setup is a little complex, but it has worked for years without many hiccups. 1) Domain hosted by an ISP on a colocated server. 2) Fetchmail to bring mail down to my local machine 3) Fetchmail delivers via SMTP to Postfix running locally 4) Postix passes to Procmail for processing 5) Mail delivered to Maildir/ in my home directory. From this point, I can either read the Maildir/ directly with mutt, pine, etc, or 6) courier-imap serves up Maildir/ via IMAP. OK, I'm getting close. I now have fetchmail handing mail off to smail/procmail as before, but added a procmail rule for a particular account to go into a maildir format for courier-imap, which I now have installed. I think the only think missing is how SquirrelMail and IMAP get configured with a userid/passwd to access the maildir that now has one message sitting in it. When I give my regular id/pwd it times out. Any hints? I'm RTFMing still... Rather than install SquirrelMail or something like it, I just SSH into my home net and use port forwarding to access IMAP. SSH is the only thing I offer externally. It makes security easier to think about. Yes, I have ssh access to my machine enabled, but I fear installing putty or anything else on the Windows machines of friends and family, because from then on for the rest of my life they blame me for every little thing that goes wrong with their Win machine! ...RickM...
Re: How to use SquirrelMail?
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Ian Duggan wrote: OK, I'm getting close. I now have fetchmail handing mail off to smail/procmail as before, but added a procmail rule for a particular account to go into a maildir format for courier-imap, which I now have installed. I think the only think missing is how SquirrelMail and IMAP get configured with a userid/passwd to access the maildir that now has one message sitting in it. When I give my regular id/pwd it times out. Any hints? I'm RTFMing still... The first thing to test is that you can access courier-imap directly using another IMAP client. I.e. can you use fetchmail to retrieve from your local courier-imap server? I use Netscape Messenger, but any mature mail reader that supports imap could be used to test. courier-imap recently changed from using pam directly to using a daemon called authdaemond. It listens on a local unix socket. It is configured by /etc/courier/authdamond if you are using the debian package. What version of courier-imap do you have? 1.4.3-1 from sid. Ah, it _just_ started working! but I'm afraid I didn't notice what I might have done to fix it. It may have been as simple as renaming ~/maildir to ~/Maildir. Next up is to set up pine for imap (collections, it seems) so that pine and squirrelmail can share the Maildir folders. If it all works, then I need to convert a bunch of mbox files to maildir format. I did a search and found a script for this. After that, install some plugins! ...RickM...
How to use SquirrelMail?
Below I've outlined what I'd like to do, but I'm not sure if SquirrelMail will do this. I easily installed apache and SquirrelMail, but I haven't installed an IMAP yet. Here's what I do now: - run fetchmail to grab mail from a few different mail servers for deposit locally for a few different users. - some local users running Windows/Netscape get their mail from my machine; I run qpopper for this. - For one of the users (me) procmail sorts the mail into various mail files. - I read my mail with pine, usually. When I'm away from home, I want to access my mail remotely, using web access. People seem to like SquirrelMail. I have apache and SM installed, but that's as far as I've gone. I can't figure out if SquirrelMail will use the existing mail folders that pine sees or not. I don't want SquirrelMail to fetch mail from anywhere to move anywhere else. I don't understand if IMAPs role is simply to serve up the mail to the remote client and allow deleting, moving to other folders, etc, or if it will want to replace my existing steps of fetchmail/procmail. Which IMAP package should I use? ...RickM...
Re: Best Email Web Application
I installed squirrelmail, but which IMAP should I use? Can I still keep running qpopper to provide POP3 for users on my lan (wife and kids)? Or does IMAP conflict somehow? On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Angus D Madden wrote: Dave Scott, Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 12:45:18PM -0800: Anyone have any ideas on what is the best Web Based email application. I was using Neomail, but it's just too plain, is there anything with more options, etc, something more like Outlook Web Access 2000 in an open source alternative. I highly recommend SquirrelMail. There is a deb in woody/sid, but I usually just download and install it directly, as it is simple to install and configure. http://www.squirrelmail.org/ SquirrelMail is very full featured and development is open and active. There was an imap bug which caused apache procs to hang on high load servers but that seems to have been fixed in the latest release. g -- Brought to you by Debian 3.0 Linux took 2.4.16 #1 SMP Sat Jan 5 12:52:24 EST 2002 i686 unknown ...RickM...
Re: configuring ext3 (was Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users)
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Dave Thayer wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 09:13:08AM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: * dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020306 19:12]: I've got 2.4.17 on all my systems. (2.4.18 is out now, but not packaged last I checked) Are there any tricks or gotchas to setting it up? Here's what I know (I did include support in the kernel) : o /etc/fstab -- s/ext2/ext3/ try this instead: s/ext2/ext3,ext2/ If you do this mount won't be able to find fsck unless you create a symlink like /sbin/fsck.ext3,ext2 to the original fsck. Seems odd. fsck isn't the same size as fsck.ext3 and fsck.ext3. What should the new symlink point to? timshel# ls -al /sbin/fsck* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root18968 Feb 23 06:58 /sbin/fsck -rwxr-xr-x2 root root99608 Feb 23 06:58 /sbin/fsck.ext2 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root99608 Feb 23 06:58 /sbin/fsck.ext3 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root21144 Jan 27 00:05 /sbin/fsck.minix -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 413 Jan 25 06:05 /sbin/fsck.nfs ...RickM...
Re: Boottime keymap
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Timo Benk wrote: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:10:06PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote: Hi ! I've renamed boottime.kmap.gz in /etc/console to boottime.kmap.gz.bak and copied es.kmap.gz in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty to /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz, so that the spanish keymap loads every time I boot. Is this the right way to do it ? I think the right way is: # dpkg-reconfigure console-common -timo -- gpg key fingerprint = 6832 C8EC D823 4059 0CD1 6FBF 9383 7DBD 109E 98DC ...RickM...
Re: seti@home
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Carl Fink wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 02:13:16PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: I've been running setiathome on my winboxes and am considering adding my linbox to the mix. So, the question is what is the appropriate directory to unpack and run this little bippy? I put it in ~carlf/bin How does the graphical mode do? There's a graphical mode? Never even occurred to me to use one. I monitor it with Tkseti. The setiathome folks eventually added a graphical extension to the client that communicates via shared memory. It looks like the Windows screensaver. I had a quick look once but it just slows the machine down. Besides, I'm a fairly biased user of TkSETI myself. ;-) ...RickM...
Re: SoundBlaster Live!, /dev/audio, and bad sound quality
On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Richard Cobbe wrote: Greetings, all. New sound card (actually, new computer). It's a SoundBlaster Live!, so I've compiled in support for the emu10k1 module. Up-to-date potato, kernel 2.2.20, SMP. In general, everything works fine, except that sending .au files to /dev/audio has really lousy sound quality. You can hear the sound, but there's a loud hissing or static sound on top of it. I had this behavior both with emu10k1 v0.7 included with the 2.2.20 source, and emu10k1 v0.18 that I just downloaded from SourceForge. I tried playing with various mixer settings, but that didn't help. The only way I could get rid of the hissing was by turning the volume all the way down. Other sound operations, like playing MP3s or WAVs in xmms, work fine; no hissing or static at all. (I only tried this with v0.18 of the driver, though.) I don't know that many things use /dev/audio any more, so this isn't that big a deal, but I'd like to get this working---especially because I typically use english.au from www.kernel.org to test the sound system after I change things. Nice, easy, and short. I wonder if it's meant to work. cat english.au /dev/audio on my system also sounds horrible, but the same file sounds fine when played with xanim, esdplay or play. I actually don't know where play came from. bplay, from the bplay package, sounds horrible just like cat does. I think cat'ing the file _used_ to sound OK on the old sound card (SB16) that I had before the the SBLive. ...RickM...
Re: web-based email for debian?
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: I also use SquirrelMail on both woody and potato machines. I skipped the .debs this time and installed directly. Works great and haven't had a single problem yet. I'm looking at the SquirrelMail web site, and I can't see that the MessageList shows which messages have been replied to, or the size or if there are attachments. There is a column with a + mark, which is maybe one of these three things? Are these other things I mentioned available? ...RickM...
Re: procmail. query use of trailing :
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Ian Balchin wrote: Hi, Why should i, or why should I not, use the trailing : in the first line of a procmail recipe? I know this is to do with a lockfile, but do not understand the whys and wherefores of same. :0: * ^TOscuba scubafile :0 * ^From.*peter * ^Subject:.*compilers petcompil both examples from man procmailex. Even if the second example has two conditions to be satisfied, why does it dispense with the trailing : ? http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~reriksso/procmail/mini-faq.html#locking ...RickM...
Re: NVIDIA driver
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Christian Schoenebeck wrote: Also make sure you comment out the Load dri and Load GLCore lines. There wasn't one in my XF86Config. For starters, you can check that the driver is there. If the nvidia-glx package (the one you built) is installed, you can use dpkg -L nvidia-glx to see a list of its files. One of them should be /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o . this is what 'dpkg -L nvidia-glx' says: Is the driver actually loaded? timshel# lsmod Module Size Used by vmnet 17408 6 vmmon 18032 0 ip_masq_vdolive 1488 0 (unused) ip_masq_raudio 3088 0 (unused) ip_masq_user2620 0 (unused) ip_masq_irc 2096 0 (unused) ip_masq_quake 1492 0 (unused) ip_masq_ftp 3616 0 (unused) NVdriver 814112 10 I found that even after installing the deb files I had to manualy add NVdriver to /etc/modules. I don't know if I should have just turned on the auto option shown below or what, and I'm confused about kmod and kerneld and which if any I should be running... # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are # to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with # a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored. # An entry named `auto' will cause the system to start kerneld immediately. # Kerneld then loads modules on demand. `noauto' disables kerneld completely. #auto NVdriver ...RickM...
Re: Segfaults in seemingly unrelated programs
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Rob Mahurin wrote: On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 08:52:36PM -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had similar symptoms once. Segfaults and apparently corrupted disk files. It turned out to be a bad memory SIMM. Try running memtest86 for awhile (10 minutes to an hour or more; depends on how much memory you have and how fast the cpu is). After I replaced the memory, I reinstalled all packages in-place (declining any config files) to refresh any files that may have been bad. Made me feel better, at least. I had the same thought, though I'm not sure how an overheated CPU fan could damage the memory. It seems more likely that the libraries Jim mentions are corrupted, and the one program that works is somehow lucky. A memtest couldn't hurt, though. My SIMM went bad after 10 months _without_ overheating anything. I would give the same advice even in the absense of the heating issue. Can't hurt! :-) ...RickM...
Re: Segfaults in seemingly unrelated programs
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to a faulty fan, one CPU overheated and brought the system down. On restart, fsck indicated that some filesystem corruption occured. On startup, gdm would not start. After entering my username in the console, the login prompt came back without giving me the opportunity to enter my password. The logical next step, booting in single user mode. In single user mode, it quickly appeared that a few programs segfault. I had similar symptoms once. Segfaults and apparently corrupted disk files. It turned out to be a bad memory SIMM. Try running memtest86 for awhile (10 minutes to an hour or more; depends on how much memory you have and how fast the cpu is). After I replaced the memory, I reinstalled all packages in-place (declining any config files) to refresh any files that may have been bad. Made me feel better, at least. ...RickM...
Re: IP Chains question
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, David Gardi wrote: I've just switched to 2.4.x on my laptop, and it was painless. I'm about to do the same on a desktop that runs a firewall using my old original ipfwadm rules, which are magically translated by debian (potato/2.2.x) into (i think) ipchains. Is there someplace I can find instructions to convert to iptables? Is there a similar on-the-fly conversion script? If you intend to switch to iptables from ipchains, I strongly suggest you to take a look at http://netfilter.samba.org/ Oh, are you saying that (initially) I can just install 2.4.17 and leave my ipfwadm stuff as-is and the ipchains script will still work? I'd switch to iptables eventually, but if the old stuff will still work I don't have to figure out how iptables work _before_ I install the new kernel. ...RickM...
Re: IP Chains question
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Eric G. Miller wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:08:45 -0500 (EST), Matt Kopishke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have set up a firewall using ipchains and the bridge patch (bridgein) under potato (2.2.19). The one snag I had was although the firewall works well only letting the world see certain ports (80 443), it doesn't let the servers behind the firewall get out. I set up a rule that allows all traffic that originated behind the firewall out, but because we only have a couple of ports open, and we have no clue what port the reply packets are going to come on, the reply packets get denied. I was wondering if there is any way to mark out going packets so we can let them through on their way back? Yea, it's called iptables/netfilter (kernel 2.4.x). I've just switched to 2.4.x on my laptop, and it was painless. I'm about to do the same on a desktop that runs a firewall using my old original ipfwadm rules, which are magically translated by debian (potato/2.2.x) into (i think) ipchains. Is there someplace I can find instructions to convert to iptables? Is there a similar on-the-fly conversion script? ...RickM...
Re: Compiling pcmcia-source
Well, I'm going to say 2.4.17 anyway... Yesterday, I compiled a 2.4 kernel for the first time. I went for 2.4.16 because I thought it was better for vmware. It failed to compile even before I got to the pcmcia source. The message wasn't exactly what you got; it was from the linker. Unresolved or duplicate symbols or something. A buddy in the office said to try 2.4.17 because he thought 2.4.16 was only out for a day before 2.4.17 came out (so it must have been bad, he figured). Anyway, 2.4.17 compiled, installed and booted up fine, as far as I can tell so far. On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Seneca Cunningham wrote: I need the pcmcia module to get access to my ethernet card and cdrom, but I just can't get pcmcia-source to compile. I've tried to do it with woody and sid, but I just can't seem to get my pcmcia module to compile. I get warnings about how malloc.h is deprecated throughout the entire process, but at the end... In file included from 3c575_cb.c:98: /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.16/include/linux/malloc.h:4: warning: #warning linux/ malloc.h is deprecated, use linux/slab.h instead. 3c575_cb.c:879: conflicting types for `wait_for_completion_R02032293' /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.16/include/linux/completion.h:30: previous declaratio n of `wait_for_completion_R02032293' make[4]: *** [3c575_cb.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/clients' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs' make[2]: *** [build-modules] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs' make[1]: *** [kdist_image] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs' Module /usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs failed. Hit return to Continue This particular version is of my most recent attempt, with the pcmcia-source from sid, and downloaded today. The previous versions were all similar, with an identical result. Please _don't_ suggest that I change kernels to 2.4.17, I had enough trouble floppying 2.4.16 over, earlier this month, and I need the pcmcia module to even attempt to connect to the network (pcmcia ethernet card). I can't burn a cd and use it, my cdrom is an external one, connected through pcmcia. I can't do SLIP or PLIP because of a combination of a hardware and software problem (windoze combined with semi-functional (works when it isn't needed, stops when its needed) hardware). In spite of having to floppy everything (packages 1.6M are made into spanning archives, then reassembled), I generally download new versions of the more important packages if I find them in testing or sid. Probably the only exception to that would be the kernel-source... I don't have enough good floppies to do that. Thanks for any help, Seneca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM...
Debian uses gcc272 for kernel; conflicts with NVidia-kernel-src
When I build my kernel 2.2.19 (using make-kpkg), the gcc version is forced to gcc272. Installing and building the NVidia drivers (sid 2313), it forces you to use the same gcc version. But then the compile fails. I'm forced to build my kernel with 2.95.4. Is this a bug or what? gcc272 -c -Wall -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D_X86_=1 -Di386=1 -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1 -DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=2314 -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include nv.c cc1: Invalid option `-Wno-unknown-pragmas' cc1: Invalid option `-Wno-multichar' make[2]: *** [nv.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel-1.0.2314/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2314' make[1]: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel-1.0.2314' Module /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel-1.0.2314 failed. ...RickM...
Re: Debian uses gcc272 for kernel; conflicts with NVidia-kernel-src
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, nate wrote: quote who=Rick Macdonald When I build my kernel 2.2.19 (using make-kpkg), the gcc version is forced to gcc272. you don't mention whether or not forcing gcc to 2.7.2 is intentional or not. 2.95.x is probably the best compiler for 2.2.19. i have several dozen servers running 2.2 and all of them are compiled with 2.95.x The top level Makefile (usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.19) forces it: # foo-bar-gcc for cross builds # gcc272 for Debian's old compiler for kernels # kgcc for Conectiva, Mandrake and Red Hat 7 # otherwise 'cc' # CC =$(shell if [ -n $(CROSS_COMPILE) ]; then echo $(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc; else \ $(CONFIG_SHELL) scripts/kwhich gcc272 2/dev/null || $(CONFIG_SHELL) scripts/kwhich kgcc 2/dev/null || echo cc; fi) and scripts/kwhich returns the first one it finds, which is gcc272. i only have 1 system that uses the nvidia drivers, 2.2.19 with gcc 2.95.4(debian woody). potato has 2.95.2. i have not tested the nvidia drivers on debian potato ... It seems to me that the only way this would work for you is if you didn't have gcc272 installed, which seems unlikely. Are you uses the nvidia 2313/2314 deb packages? What does /proc/version show? timshel:~$ cat /proc/version Linux version 2.2.19 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Thu Jan 17 11:20:34 MST 2002 ...RickM...
Re: Kernels - The Debian Way
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Romain Lerallut wrote: Thus spake Keith O'Connell on Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 07:34:08AM +: Yes you did, and that was the post that sent me (as a newbie) into dselect looking for newbiedoc but it isn't there. Some of the followup posts make me see that is must be part of woody or sid. Therein lies the problem. As a newbie I am learning on potato, but the docs I need are in woody, If I could run woody reliably, I probably wouldn't need the document - Catch22 That was why I was asking for a source elsewhere Keith Sorry for a late answer, but you can always get doc out of woody, you just have to do it a la RedHat: ftp the package and dpkg -i it. Most of the doc packages don't have dependencies other than 'suggests: www-browser' and the likes, which shouldn't be a problem. Check it out on packages.debian.org. The latest version of debview.el (1.19) for emacs supports ange-ftp, so you can browse deb packages directly from an ftp mirror with emacs dired mode. Behind the scenes the packages get ftp'd to temporary files and then deleted, of course, but it's a handy way to browse packages without installing them. ...RickM...
SOLVED: Re: Can't get DPMS to work with woody/sid
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Rick Macdonald wrote: Ever since I upgraded to woody many many months ago (on two different machines) DPMS no longer powers off my monitors. I just can't figure it out. xscreensaver blanks the screen but it never goes into power-saving modes. I'm actually running woody/sid. Can anybody claim that this works with XFree 4.x? Some more info: When I turn on xscreensaver debug, it puts this message on the screen when it blanks the screen: xscreensaver: X says monitor is powered down; not launching a hack It seems like X thinks the monitor is powered down, but it isn't. I finally found it: Section Device Identifier Asus AGP-V7700 GeForce2 GTS Delux Driver nv # Enable DPMS for powersave mode. Option DPMS EndSection Works again. Only took me 10 months to find the answer! ...RickM...
Re: What is option -P to smbclient?
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Kent West wrote:
In trying to print to a printer hanging off a Windows box, I find that
the smbprint script has this line:
echo print -
cat
) | smbclient $server\\$service -U $password -N -P $logfile
I have been unable to find any documentation that explains what the
option -P is for (am I just blind?). Anyone know?
timshel:~$ /usr/bin/smbclient
Usage: /usr/bin/smbclient service password [options]
Version 2.2.2debian-2
-s smb.conf pathname to smb.conf file
-O socket_options socket options to use
-R name resolve order use these name resolution services only
-M host send a winpopup message to the host
-i scope use this NetBIOS scope
-Ndon't ask for a password
-n netbios name. Use this name as my netbios name
-d debuglevel set the debuglevel
-Pconnect to service as a printer
-p port connect to the specified port
-l log basename. Basename for log/debug files
-hPrint this help message.
-I dest IPuse this IP to connect to
-Ewrite messages to stderr instead of stdout
-U username set the network username
-L host get a list of shares available on a host
-t terminal code terminal i/o code
{sjis|euc|jis7|jis8|junet|hex}
-m max protocol set the max protocol level
-A filename get the credentials from a file
-W workgroup set the workgroup name
-Tc|xIXFqgbNan command line tar
-D directory start from directory
-c command string execute semicolon separated commands
-b xmit/send buffer changes the transmit/send buffer (default:
65520)
...RickM...
Re: how to print to a printer connected to win2000prof
Kent - I may have had a similar problem such as the cat errors and stair-stepping. At one time I think I found that it was the last line of the magicfilter driver (the default) that was the problem (when printing plain text). I think I found that I could cat a file directly to smbclient using the command line args from the smbprint script. Try that to see if it works. I also remember running smbclient interactively and getting it to print. These two things led me to the dj550c-filter being the problem. On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Kent West wrote: Hans Steinraht wrote: hi all, The thing I try to figure out is how I can print from my Debian sid to a printer that's connected to a windows 2000 proffesional machine. I have read something about it and saw that there are different ways that might work. Maybe someone has already experience with it and can point me to the right direction. thanks, Hans I'm not using CUPS (just lprng and samba), and have been trying for a year and a half (off-and-on of course) to print from a Linux box to a printer hanging off a Windows box. I'm confident that it can be done, but the documentation is sadly lacking, or perhaps I'm just too dense to get it. However, for your perusal, here's what I have, and it's fairly close: Contents of /etc/printcap: lp :lp=/var/spool/lpd/hplj3-remote/.null :cm=Helpdesk 3 HP LaserJet 3 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj3-remote :sh :pw#80 :pl#66 :px#1440 :mx#0 :if=/etc/samba/smbprint :af=/var/spool/lpd/hplj3-remote/acct :lf=/var/log/lp-errs Output of ls -ld /var/spool/lpd/hplj3-remote: drwx--2 daemon lp 1024 Jan 3 11:43 hplj3-remote/ Output of ls -la /var/spool/lpd/hplj3-remote: drwx--2 daemon lp 1024 Jan 3 11:43 . drwxrwsr-x5 lp lp 1024 Nov 13 09:06 .. -rw---1 daemon lp 60 Dec 11 15:58 .config -rw---1 daemon lp 0 Nov 26 17:01 .null Contents of .config: server=helpdesk3 service=zel319hp password=myuser%myuser'spassword .null is simply a holding place for a lock file for the lp= line in my printcap as per some footnote to a HOWTO I read somewhere along the way. The real magic apparently takes place in the smbprint file. This file is in the /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/examples/examples/printing/smbprint directory on my box, but I copied it to /etc/samba, although it might more properly go into a /bin directory. The core magic of this script seems to be this section: if [ $TRANS -eq 1 ]; then echo translate fi echo print - cat ) | smbclient $server\\$service -U $password -N -P $logfile I'm able to successfully connect to the share/service, but according to the log file (which I set earlier in the smbprint file to be /tmp/smb-print.log) shows this: SERVER = helpdesk3 SERVICE = zel319hp added interface ip=xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq bcast=xxx.yyy.abc.def nmask=255.255.248.0 Got a positive name query response from xxx.yyy.zzz.dns ( xxx.yyy.zzz.nn ) Domain=[ACU] OS=[Windows 5.0] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager] smb: \ smb: \ echo: command not found smb: \ cat: command not found smb: \ ): command not found smb: \ smb: \ echo: command not found smb: \ smb: \ In addition to this problem, I haven't been able to find any documentation as to what the option -P' means, which makes me suspect that the script was written for an older version of samba that no longer works with this script, but being a non-coder, I haven't been able to figure out how to modify the script to work. In addition, I once got something out of the printer, but I had to force a formfeed at the printer's front control panel to get the page to spit out, and it suffered from the common stair-step problem. When I tried to incorporate magicfilter to compensate, things just got worse, as the documentation I found for that method seems to conflict with the docs for this method, and in trying to figure out how things worked just found that an if filter is apparently not treated as a script, even though it looks (to me) like a script (try creating a Hello world! script and then referencing it in the if= line in printcap -- you'd expect to see Hello world! when you print something, but it never worked for me, so I just got frustrated and gave up, until you asked this question and now I'm playing again -- maybe in another half year I'll have it figured out and can help you then). I could give up on lprng/magicfilter/samba and just use CUPS, but I'm strapped for memory, and have just barely enough for X and Galeon without any extraneous stuff -- if I ever get it working it'll go into production along with 3 clones as a web-browsing-only kiosk. So, in summary, I believe it can be done, but good luck! Kent -- To
Re: make-kpkg exists, right?
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, dman wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 06:23:43PM -0500, Seneca Cunningham wrote: | Right now my system is half-working and is a combination of potato and | woody. I am trying to compile a new kernel after having a number of problems | with my system. The instructions for compiling a new kernel say to enter in | make-kpkg clean, but that doesn't work on my system. | | icosagon:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.16# make-kpkg clean | bash: /usr/bin/make-kpkg: No such file or directory | icosagon:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.16# whereis make-kpkg | make-kpkg: /usr/bin/make-kpkg | icosagon:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.16# cd /usr/bin | icosagon:/usr/bin/# ls make-kpkg | make-kpkg | | First it claims that make-kpkg isn't a file or directory, then it tells me | where it is. Unlike make-kpkg, the manpage can be accessed. I have | reinstalled kernel-package three or four times, with the most recent time | being from a second download. I am attempting to use the version of | kernel-package that is in woody. What do I need to do to get further in my | attempt to compile a kernel? Is /usr/bin in your PATH? Is /usr/bin/make-kpkg executable? No, by the error message it's finding make-kpkg fine or you'd get bash: qwer-qwerq: command not found. It's a perl script, and it's also finding perl fine, or you'd get bad interpreter: No such file or directory. I think the perl script is executing a command or loading or accessing something that isn't being found. ...RickM...
