Re: Holiday Project for my job
On 10/29/2011 05:28 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 05 sep 11, 14:45:16, ZephyrQ wrote: Again, thanks for all the advice...and I would appreciate any other wisdom y'all might throw my way...I ran into another snag where I wanted to remove some software but synaptic insists that it will remove Gnome-core (like Evolution and Epiphany...these machines will never be connected to the internet) and while I vaguely remember this issue on the list, I don't remember the fix. FAI (Fully Automated Install) http://fai-project.org/ Wow, thanks. This is perfect. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eb6028b.9000...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Holiday Project for my job
On 09/04/2011 07:48 AM, Rob Owens wrote: On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 10:35:12AM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote: I am trying to set up several Linux desktops for a secure (locked) facility for troubled teenagers. I brought one home to set up (so I can have unfettered internet access) but then I need to be able to 'clone' it to others without internet access (so package retrieval is impossible unless I bring home every single desktop; and we are talking about up to 50). So I need advice on the following: 1. Which distro to use? I've used Mint before in a similar setting (and was pleased) but I'm now stuck with 6 year old Dells with almost no video acceleration and .5 G memory each. I'm thinking XFCE with Mint or Xbuntu, but am open to others (even a stock debian install which I use on my home machine) but I will not be able to update unless I do so manually (which a CD or thumbdrive). 2. How do I 'clone' the machine to a CD or, preferably, a thumb drive so I can install the same configuration to all machines (limiting menu options, put in educational games, add openoffice or libreoffice, etc.)? Both of these will allow you to keep a pristine image that only you update (and you only have to update it on a single machine). When a client boots, it gets its OS over the network. It always gets a pristine copy of the image on each boot. Thanks for the advice from all of you. I decided upon a stock Debian (stable) box which I will reproduce with Clonezilla. It is going to take longer than I thought (I still have to modify the menu and retool the partitions a bit--seems the netinstall gave only 9 G to the root partition but 27 G to /home which caused it to overfill when I did the first big download of educational packages). The basic Gnome desktop seems snappy enough on the machine, but I'll be playing with both LXDE and XFCE--I'm running up against common perceptions with both the students and the teachers who have never seen a Linux desktop and I have to keep it as easy for them as possible. Unfortunately, this set of installs will NOT be networked--they are meant to be stand-alones in various classrooms around the building. However, I will be needing the additional advice when I get to actually re-doing the lab I'm in charge of (with a 500 G 3GHz server that has never been used) that I will want to perform some nifty-ness with. Again, thanks for all the advice...and I would appreciate any other wisdom y'all might throw my way...I ran into another snag where I wanted to remove some software but synaptic insists that it will remove Gnome-core (like Evolution and Epiphany...these machines will never be connected to the internet) and while I vaguely remember this issue on the list, I don't remember the fix. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6526cc.2000...@sbcglobal.net
Holiday Project for my job
I am trying to set up several Linux desktops for a secure (locked) facility for troubled teenagers. I brought one home to set up (so I can have unfettered internet access) but then I need to be able to 'clone' it to others without internet access (so package retrieval is impossible unless I bring home every single desktop; and we are talking about up to 50). So I need advice on the following: 1. Which distro to use? I've used Mint before in a similar setting (and was pleased) but I'm now stuck with 6 year old Dells with almost no video acceleration and .5 G memory each. I'm thinking XFCE with Mint or Xbuntu, but am open to others (even a stock debian install which I use on my home machine) but I will not be able to update unless I do so manually (which a CD or thumbdrive). 2. How do I 'clone' the machine to a CD or, preferably, a thumb drive so I can install the same configuration to all machines (limiting menu options, put in educational games, add openoffice or libreoffice, etc.)? Thank you for your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e624930.4000...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Another mouse issue+Xorg after upgrade
On 03/31/2011 11:49 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: 01/04/2011 03:52, ZephyrQ wrote: On 03/31/2011 01:45 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mi, 30 mar 11, 22:09:15, ZephyrQ wrote: Is it that the boot-up is not reading it? Please boot, count to ten, replug your mouse and then post the full output of 'dmesg'. Did you already replug the mouse? Because I see this: (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech Trackball (/dev/input/event5) Is your mouse a Trackball? Later: Yes, it is. The same I've used through 3 stable releases. (not the same physical trackball, but I've used the same brand/type for years...) (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech Trackball (/dev/input/mouse0) (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) which might be related to your problem. Please attach the full xorg.conf used. Xorg.conf first, then after full output of dmesg: # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (pbuilder@windlord) Sun Jun 13 06:03:17 UTC 2010 Section InputDevice # generated from default Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection [snip] Hi, I also use a logitech trackball (the cordless one with a blue ball currently) and this is what I use on Squeeze and Wheezy (mind the line wrapping) : Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver evdev Option Device /dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_Trackball-event-mouse EndSection man evdev will give you a list of valid options you may need. Without this in my xorg.conf I have the same problem you are facing, the device initialisation is unreliable. Hope it helps. That seems to have done the trick. I tried evdev before, but had the 'device' option wrong... Thank you for the help! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d993b95.9070...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Another mouse issue+Xorg after upgrade
On 03/31/2011 01:45 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mi, 30 mar 11, 22:09:15, ZephyrQ wrote: Is it that the boot-up is not reading it? Please boot, count to ten, replug your mouse and then post the full output of 'dmesg'. Did you already replug the mouse? Because I see this: (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech Trackball (/dev/input/event5) (**) Logitech Trackball: Applying InputClass evdev pointer catchall (**) Logitech Trackball: always reports core events (**) Logitech Trackball: Device: /dev/input/event5 (II) Logitech Trackball: Found 3 mouse buttons (II) Logitech Trackball: Found scroll wheel(s) (II) Logitech Trackball: Found relative axes (II) Logitech Trackball: Found x and y relative axes (II) Logitech Trackball: Configuring as mouse (**) Logitech Trackball: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Logitech Trackball: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Logitech Trackball (type: MOUSE) (II) Logitech Trackball: initialized for relative axes. Is your mouse a Trackball? Later: Yes, it is. The same I've used through 3 stable releases. (not the same physical trackball, but I've used the same brand/type for years...) (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech Trackball (/dev/input/mouse0) (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) which might be related to your problem. Please attach the full xorg.conf used. Xorg.conf first, then after full output of dmesg: # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (pbuilder@windlord) Sun Jun 13 06:03:17 UTC 2010 Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 Screen0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Files EndSection Section InputDevice # generated from default Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice # generated from default Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Unknown ModelName Unknown HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Device0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 EndSubSection ~~~ Now dmesg output: ~~~ [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [0.00] Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-31) (b...@decadent.org.uk) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Tue Mar 8 21:36:00 UTC 2011 [0.00] KERNEL supported cpus: [0.00] Intel GenuineIntel [0.00] AMD AuthenticAMD [0.00] NSC Geode by NSC [0.00] Cyrix CyrixInstead [0.00] Centaur CentaurHauls [0.00] Transmeta GenuineTMx86 [0.00] Transmeta TransmetaCPU [0.00] UMC UMC UMC UMC [0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map: [0.00] BIOS-e820: - 0009f800 (usable) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0009f800 - 000a (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0010 - 7fee (usable) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 7fee - 7fee3000 (ACPI NVS) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 7fee3000 - 7fef (ACPI data) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 7fef - 7ff0 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: f000 - f400 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: fec0 - 0001 (reserved) [0.00] DMI 2.4 present. [0.00] Phoenix BIOS detected: BIOS may corrupt low RAM, working around it. [0.00] e820 update range: - 0001 (usable) == (reserved) [0.00] last_pfn = 0x7fee0 max_arch_pfn = 0x10 [0.00] MTRR default type: uncachable [0.00] MTRR fixed ranges enabled: [0.00] 0-9 write-back [0.00] A-B uncachable [0.00] C-C7FFF write-protect [0.00] C8000-F uncachable [0.00] MTRR variable ranges enabled: [0.00] 0 base 00 mask FF8000 write-back [0.00] 1 disabled [0.00] 2 disabled [0.00] 3 disabled [0.00] 4 disabled [0.00] 5 disabled [0.00] 6 disabled [0.00] 7 disabled [0.00] x86 PAT enabled: cpu 0, old 0x7040600070406, new 0x7010600070106
Re: Another mouse issue+Xorg after upgrade
On 03/29/2011 07:01 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 28 mar 11, 18:15:04, ZephyrQ wrote: The current workaround (and how I'm able to send this now) was to erase/move the old xorg.conf and run nvidia-xconfig. Are you doing this 1. erase xorg.conf 2. run nvidia-xconfig 3. reboot or this 1. erase xorg.conf 2. reboot 3. run nvidia-xconfig The reason I'm asking is that without an xorg.conf nouveau would be used (assuming it is installed and everything else is ok). You also told us nothing about the method used to install nvidia. This also makes a big difference because the Debian packages will disable nouveau. In any case, please attach the full /var/log/Xorg.0.log from a successful boot and an unsuccessful one. Seems that wasn't what fixed it. Tried several different times to boot, and no mouse (not invisible...visible but not moving). However...I moved the mouse to a different USB port, while running, and it worked. Tried again today (sorry late response...work issues), and the same thing: I would boot, no mouse. When I unplug from usb port, and plug into the *same* port, viola', usable mouse. Is it that the boot-up is not reading it? However, since you asked, here is my log file (from latest non-working boot up): X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32.29-dsa-ia32 i686 Debian Current Operating System: Linux Cave 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Tue Mar 8 21:36:00 UTC 2011 i686 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686 root=UUID=b9afb61a-0865-46c6-9977-bf803b73322b ro quiet Build Date: 19 February 2011 02:37:36PM xorg-server 2:1.7.7-13 (Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org) Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Mar 30 16:10:32 2011 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d (==) ServerLayout Layout0 (**) |--Screen Screen0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor Monitor0 (**) | |--Device Device0 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0 (**) |--Input Device Mouse0 (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, built-ins (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 (WW) Disabling Mouse0 (II) Loader magic: 0x81ecca0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (++) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:2:0:0) 10de:0641:19f1:0dd9 nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] rev 161, Mem @ 0xfa00/16777216, 0xe000/268435456, 0xf800/33554432, I/O @ 0xac00/128, BIOS @ 0x/524288 (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) LoadModule: extmod (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension SELinux (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: dbe (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: glx (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 195.36.31 Tue Jun 1 23:22:44 PDT 2010 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: record (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI
Another mouse issue+Xorg after upgrade
My mouse became unusable (frozen) after the upgrade (done the debian way, with the kernel and udev upgraded first). It would come back after a reboot, maybe, or not. i.e.--sometimes it would work, sometimes not. Very Windows-like, btw... Here's the pertinent info from Xorg: Section InputDevice # generated from default Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 The current workaround (and how I'm able to send this now) was to erase/move the old xorg.conf and run nvidia-xconfig. This gave me a usable desktop but I'm not confident that I'm going to have the issue again (the above entry is the *new* xorg.conf...and it reads the same as the old). How do I fix this? (and kernel building, while possible, is not plan 'a' as I really don't have a lot of time.../rant on: I waited on debian squeeze to get stable to keep a workable system for my job and other issues. Now, my 'stable' distribution is not stable and I can't count on it to work when I need too.../rant off) I read somewhere that the xorg.conf will be eliminated...are we there yet and, if it will help, how do I get it done? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d911678.2090...@sbcglobal.net
Re: A question for the list:
Stan Hoeppner wrote: ZephyrQ put forth on 11/4/2010 9:50 PM: If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? What situation are you in that motivates this question? Not a specific situation, merely an exploration. I've been using Debian stable for years. I've tried Ubuntu (in the early years) and Mint. Before Debian I used SuSE. Lately, though, Debian seems 'stale'. I know that Squeeze is coming up the pipe fairly soon; but I'm in process of moving my office and upgrading equipment and am taking opportunity to see what others like besides Debian. I may try out another flavor. I realize that Debian's 'stableness' contributes to its 'staleness', and I like/need that stability as I do a lot of work from home. But I also want to try out some software that is often not supported yet in stable (dependencies, usually) and I don't have time (middle-aged teacher...) to track down fixes/kludges/etc. So I'm looking for a good balance between stability and usability while staying up to date (sort of). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3ede6.20...@sbcglobal.net
Re: A question for the list:
Klistvud wrote: Dne, 05. 11. 2010 03:50:07 je ZephyrQ napisal(a): If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? gNewSense. How stable/solid is it? I've looked at it and am intrigued... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3ef76.6060...@sbcglobal.net
Re: A question for the list:
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Vi, 05 nov 10, 10:18:04, John Hasler wrote: Drew writes: Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. Good point. Also, don't feel that you should track Unstable. Upgrade individual packages as needed and do an occasional dist-upgrade if you feel the need to clean things up. Still, upgrading too seldom can make the upgrade more painful, even for testing. YMMV, of course. I hate to ask the question this way, but in terms of problems/fixes/downtime--approximately how often do you find that you have to 'fix' something in Sid? 1x week, 1x month? (I know that my MMV, but if I start playing with either testing or unstable, I don't want to get into a problem/find fix/fix lather/rinse/repeat cycle too often). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd428af.70...@sbcglobal.net
A question for the list:
If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd370df.8030...@sbcglobal.net
Comparison of using Sidux as opposed to Squeeze
I keep a fairly vanilla Lenny box to do most of my personal/work stuff get frustrated when I want to play a newer game and/or upgrade some software that is requiring a newer library. Usually backports aren't available and/or too unwieldy. My question is how usable is Sidux? I've read a few accounts that Squeeze is still very glitchy (yes, I know Sidux is based on Sid) but Sidux updates often enough to work through the problems on a daily (almost) basis. Anyone had any experience using Sidux and how usable was it compared to Squeeze? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ba78a6a.7050...@sbcglobal.net
Out of the box USB wireless adapter
I'm helping another family (not tech savvy) that is trying to use a debian flavored OS and they have 2 computers...one is running XP and has the wireless modem (a 2Wire) but the other computer is running linux and we need a USB wireless adapter that works out of the box. They have bought 3 so far and none work. There was one they had that *did* work out of the box, but it got broke and they no longer make it (Linksys). They tried another Linksys, but it requires ndiswrapper to install, which requires more tech knowledge than they possess. So, what USB wireless adapters will work out of the box, or is there a website that will list them? (They are running Ubuntu, btw). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Are there any major issues with Debian testing?
Just picked up a BBuy cheapo that I will lather/rinse/repeat and put Deb on...just wondering if testing has any major issues that I should be aware of before I make the jump (my main system runs stable). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Are there any major issues with Debian testing?
I appreciate the input, Squeeze it is...but... I'm playing with an Athlon 64-bit processor (LE-1620 specifically) and need to download an image...which one? I'm looking at the How-to(s) but they seem to be out of date and I would like to know if I should go full 64bit or stick with the 32bit image. As far as I know, I am not running any unusual software that isn't currently supported... Thanks to all for your input... ZephyrQ wrote: Just picked up a BBuy cheapo that I will lather/rinse/repeat and put Deb on...just wondering if testing has any major issues that I should be aware of before I make the jump (my main system runs stable). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mass conversion from ogg to mp3
Stefan Monnier wrote: I have a large number of music files (17 gig worth...yes, for all prying eyes they are legal...) that I find I need to convert from .ogg to .mp3. Not that I want to...but between a teenager with an iphone and being saddled with cell phone that won't play .ogg...well, you get the picture. What is the best way to do this? I would prefer a CLI option that I can run in the background, but I want to save as much sound quality as I can with the transfer... You may want to consider this conversion, not as a way to replace your Ogg collection with an MP3 collection, but just as a way to get a specialized version of your collection for some particular devices. My main collection is in Flac format, but I convert it to Ogg(96kb/s) before uploading it to my MP3 player, since Flac would take up too much space. The quality is not as high, but given the circumstances in which I listen to it, I can't really tell the difference. As for the conversion, I use the script below. script cut This looks great...just to make sure...I can use it to convert my oggs to mp3 on the fly? Just point it to a directory and pipe it to a destination and I have my mp3s? Forgive my ignorance concerning scripts, but I haven't written one since DOS 6.2... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
mass conversion from ogg to mp3
I have a large number of music files (17 gig worth...yes, for all prying eyes they are legal...) that I find I need to convert from .ogg to .mp3. Not that I want to...but between a teenager with an iphone and being saddled with cell phone that won't play .ogg...well, you get the picture. What is the best way to do this? I would prefer a CLI option that I can run in the background, but I want to save as much sound quality as I can with the transfer... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mass conversion from ogg to mp3
Just for the record, I did just that (minor differences). My issue isn't finding a way...it is finding the *best* way...and I don't have time to go through a kajillion options... ...which is why I asked a list full of knowledgeable users who know a lot more than I about CLI... JoeHill wrote: ZephyrQ wrote: I have a large number of music files (17 gig worth...yes, for all prying eyes they are legal...) that I find I need to convert from .ogg to .mp3. Not that I want to...but between a teenager with an iphone and being saddled with cell phone that won't play .ogg...well, you get the picture. What is the best way to do this? I would prefer a CLI option that I can run in the background, but I want to save as much sound quality as I can with the transfer... The _first hit_ when I googled 'convert ogg to mp3 linux command line': http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/short-tip-convert-ogg-file-to-mp3/ There are probably a kajillion others :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mass conversion from ogg to mp3
This sounds like what I need...now I just have to dust off a few websites to remember how to write a bash script... Matthew Moore wrote: On Monday 25 May 2009 11:55:53 am ZephyrQ wrote: What is the best way to do this? I would prefer a CLI option that I can run in the background, but I want to save as much sound quality as I can with the transfer... You should write a script that does the following: -) decodes the ogg files (using oggdec) -) saves their tags (using vorbiscomment) -) use grep to parse out tags like artist, album, etc -) give lame the wav file from the decode and the tag information and encode at high quality Any way that you do this you are going to lose quality since you are transcoding. The only thing that you can do is make sure that you encode your mp3s at high enough quality so that you cannot tell the difference between them and the original ogg file. If you don't have a regular directory structure, you might want to do something like find . -name *.ogg | while read oggfile; do at the start of your script. MM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mass conversion from ogg to mp3--open formats
Paul Johnson wrote: ZephyrQ wrote: I have a large number of music files (17 gig worth...yes, for all prying eyes they are legal...) that I find I need to convert from .ogg to .mp3. Not that I want to...but between a teenager with an iphone and being saddled with cell phone that won't play .ogg...well, you get the picture. Sounds like an early lesson in why you should use devices that support open formats. More seriously, why not find a program for the iPhone that plays oggs? That seems like a better idea than stripping all the audio fidelity out of the music like MP3s tend to do. Not an early lesson...rather a frustration. I've done this in the past where I research what I can use and then purchase it. I now have to teenage children who, for lack of a better description, do not share the love of tech intricacies as I do. They just want something that works. I constantly have to deal with the 'roll of the eyes' whenever my 16 year-old comes home and wants to upgrade her iphone apps (she has given up and does it at a friends house) or needs marching band music (a HUGE gap in Linux support, BTW). She has also given up trying to convince me to load XP 'just so I can get stuff done'. Now, she is a firm believer in OOffice and other Open Source apps...and she has used Linux for years...but she runs into the same frustration I do: Why is it so hard to find appliances (cell phones, etc.) or production apps (sheet music, etc.) that support open formats? Especially when it is cheaper/easier/faster/more convenient to just 'pick from the list'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: reading USB port on old Thinkpad
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:26:37PM -0600, ZephyrQ wrote: I am trying to use an old Thinkpad 309e. (PII, 128M memory). Etch runs fine (if slow) but I am using it as sound production (recording/playback) machine. Only problem is that I can't get the files OFF the laptop to mix/edit/burn on my home machine. It has a USB port, but I've tried a few things (including some BIOS settings) and I can't get it to read my thumb drives (they work on all other machines, including the linux ones). It does not have a cd-burner on it and I've tried to use the e-net cable to connect to my desktop but really don't know how to make that work (I was hoping it would magically read the other computer as a remote drive...silly me...). How do I get it to read my thumbdrive? You haven't given us any errors to look at re the thumbdrives. If you run $dmesg pre-plug.txt before you plug in the thumbdrive and then again after, $dmesg post-plug.txt Then diff the two files, you'll see what changed and can mail it to us. (if you just want to see what changed, look at the end of the dmesg after you plug in the drive). I did this, and there is no difference in the files. I did both a diff and visually compared both files and there is no difference. If you can't get the thumb drive to work, as for how to get the data off, try setting up networking. I guess that's what you mean by using the e-net cable. Its doesn't happen magically by plugging it in. You have to assign your box an IP address on whatever network you'll be using. Once you get a network setup, then you can use rsync, rcp, or even email to move the files. If you can't get the ethernet to work, that old laptop probably has a serial port. Get a null-modem cable and set up a ppp link between the two computers and you can use that as a network. Alternatively, forget network, set up a getty on one box and minicom on the other, login and send the files with zmodem. My ultimate goal is to get the thumbdrive to work--that is goal #1. The networking thing is a worst-case scenario. Will a serial to usb cable work? It is a 1999 IBM Thinkpad PII 333Mz. I'm not sure if the BIOS has been updated (date still reads 11/18/1999). Thank you for your help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: reading USB port on old Thinkpad
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 07:32:43PM -0600, ZephyrQ wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:26:37PM -0600, ZephyrQ wrote: I am trying to use an old Thinkpad 309e. (PII, 128M memory). Etch runs fine (if slow) but I am using it as sound production (recording/playback) machine. How do I get it to read my thumbdrive? Then diff the two files, you'll see what changed and can mail it to us. (if you just want to see what changed, look at the end of the dmesg after you plug in the drive). I did this, and there is no difference in the files. I did both a diff and visually compared both files and there is no difference. No change in either dmesg or /var/log/syslog. Please confirm that you are runnin Etch (which requires use of udev?). If this is Sarge, I remember having to figure out which module I needed and using either modprobe or modconf to set it up. Install the kernel-doc package for your kernel and look at the USB stuff. My old thinkpad PII-233 had a serial port. As for USB serial dongle, since you're not needing the thing to boot off of it, the BIOS shouldn't matter. The kernel should find the dongle on the USB bus and udev should give you a device (IIRC, its something like /dev/ttyUSB0). Whether you use a dongle or a real serial port, you'll still need a null-modem connector to connect to another box. Do other USB devices work on this laptop (other than a USB light or mug warmer)? I plugged in a USB mouse, and it did not work--no light either. I am running Etch (net-installed it a month ago). After work tomorrow, I will try to track down a serial/USB dongle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
reading USB port on old Thinkpad
I am trying to use an old Thinkpad 309e. (PII, 128M memory). Etch runs fine (if slow) but I am using it as sound production (recording/playback) machine. Only problem is that I can't get the files OFF the laptop to mix/edit/burn on my home machine. It has a USB port, but I've tried a few things (including some BIOS settings) and I can't get it to read my thumb drives (they work on all other machines, including the linux ones). It does not have a cd-burner on it and I've tried to use the e-net cable to connect to my desktop but really don't know how to make that work (I was hoping it would magically read the other computer as a remote drive...silly me...). How do I get it to read my thumbdrive? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Gnome hosed--theme crashing!
Christian Jaeger wrote: Christian Jaeger wrote: Mumia W.. wrote: On 08/25/2008 09:12 PM, ZephyrQ wrote: PauL Lane wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:38:00PM -0500, PauL Lane wrote: Hello, have you recently upgraded libxml2? I had the same problem. Try; $ dpkg -l libxml2 If it comes back; ii libxml2 2.6.27.dfsg-3 GNOME XML library Try downgrading to 2.6.27.dfsg-3. Also have a look at; http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=496125 My bad, should be downgrade to 2.6.27.dfsg-2. I downgraded, but I'm still having the same problem with the themes app in gnome (I can't change theme). I checked out the bug report, but the fix requires me to start using unstable, and I'm not comfortable enough (and don't have the time in the short term to research) with pinning to try and 'mix' my etch sources. Anything I missed? Perhaps this is the problem: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.debian/browse_thread/thread/331c0b7d119affec# Yes that's probably everything the same problem, bug 496125. ZephyrQ: Are you *really* sure that you're running the previous libxml2 now? What is dpkg -l libxml2 showing now? Also: try to create a new user from the console (adduser foo) and log into that one, since the default theme of Gnome does not run into the problem (at least not on Lenny). Also, note that even if you don't manage to downgrade libxml2, you could rebuild librsvg2 instead (which is, depending on viewpoint, the real culprit here). apt-get source librsvg; cd librsvg-*; dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -b -r'fakeroot -u' then install the resulting librsvg*.deb's with dpkg -i (well, at least those which you currently have installed, you could check with dpkg -l librsvg*). Also note that accordant to bug 496125, Mike Hommey, the libxml2 maintainer, has created a new libxml2 package which includes the security fix in a way which does not change the size of structs so that librsvg and other libraries which didn't allocate memory through the libxml2 api don't cause crashes anymore. I don't know if and when that version will be distributed to etch users, though. You could ask on the debian-security mailing list. Sure enough, dpkg -l still showed version 3. However, it looks like version 4 went up today and I upgraded. Seems to work fine--but I did have to reboot to get it to work. I was able to copy my .gconf directory back to my home directory and I've got everything back! Thank you all for your help! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome hosed--theme crashing!
My desktop died. Others on the machine (a KDE and my son's gnome) is ok, but something on mine bit the dust. I've moved the .gtk* files and a couple other directories, but when I try to recreate the desktop, the themes module is unresponsive. There must be a quick fix! (otherwise, I'm creating a new user and moving files over, one by one...forever...I'm *very* picky about my desktop--which is why I'm using Linux...;- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome hosed--theme crashing!
PauL Lane wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:38:00PM -0500, PauL Lane wrote: Hello, have you recently upgraded libxml2? I had the same problem. Try; $ dpkg -l libxml2 If it comes back; ii libxml22.6.27.dfsg-3 GNOME XML library Try downgrading to 2.6.27.dfsg-3. Also have a look at; http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=496125 My bad, should be downgrade to 2.6.27.dfsg-2. I downgraded, but I'm still having the same problem with the themes app in gnome (I can't change theme). I checked out the bug report, but the fix requires me to start using unstable, and I'm not comfortable enough (and don't have the time in the short term to research) with pinning to try and 'mix' my etch sources. Anything I missed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automated downloads for duplicate laptops
Since I am using Ubuntu packages, can I just change the depository listings to the corresponding Ubuntu ones? Shachar Or wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2008 04:12, ZephyrQ wrote: I'm trying to set up five (5) laptops for classroom use with limited menu options and specific programs that I use in my special ed classroom. I have numerous packages that I would like to automate the downloads (instead of picking and clicking), to the tune of about 850M worth. Of course, I'll need to attach it. Any way to do this quicker/easier than pointing and clicking for every computer? Note: I am using Ubuntu for the laptops, but I run Etch on my home machine doing the configuring. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Automated downloads for duplicate laptops
I'm trying to set up five (5) laptops for classroom use with limited menu options and specific programs that I use in my special ed classroom. I have numerous packages that I would like to automate the downloads (instead of picking and clicking), to the tune of about 850M worth. Any way to do this quicker/easier than pointing and clicking for every computer? Note: I am using Ubuntu for the laptops, but I run Etch on my home machine doing the configuring. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automated downloads for duplicate laptops
Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/15/08 20:12, ZephyrQ wrote: I'm trying to set up five (5) laptops for classroom use with limited menu options and specific programs that I use in my special ed classroom. I have numerous packages that I would like to automate the downloads (instead of picking and clicking), to the tune of about 850M worth. Any way to do this quicker/easier than pointing and clicking for every computer? Note: I am using Ubuntu for the laptops, but I run Etch on my home machine doing the configuring. What if you run the laptops as diskless thick workstations, where stuff like /usr, /home, /etc, ... are mounted NFS, but all CPU processing (and and necessary TMP files swapping) are done on the laptop. That way you only configure things once. Unfortunately, I have to run each laptop as a stand alone without net access once they are in the classroom...school starts Monday and I'm trying to get these all configured... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
Angus Auld wrote: --- ZephyrQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip Just played with Opera for a while. I was impressed. Not afraid to pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage (heck, considering how much $ I **don't** pay for software, dropping a few bucks here and there for a program worth it feels good...). Now I just have to make sure it handles .pdf stuff right (work requirement). Pay for it??? Opera doesn't ask for money anymoreunless you wish to donate to their cause. Considering how they have been pushing back against ms's BS, maybe we should all donate. ;) I really like Opera, and inspite of some difficulties having to do with plugins, I haven't found a browser that I am as satisfied with as theirs. The Wand feature is a real winner for me, as well as Speed Dial. If you are adventureous, and want to try Opera beta releases, go here: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ Opera 9.50 promises to be even better. :) Like I said, I really like Opera. Heh, been out of the 'latest-greatest' game for a while. I guess I still thought Opera was a 'for pay' proposition. Imagine my surprise when I didn't see any ads and/or a shareware notice come up while playing with it. I'm setting it up as my new browser now--a long term project as I have decided that I won't import my bookmarks (8+ years of bookmarking has left my bookmarks, well, bloated. I google everything now anyway...) and will just transfer sites/passwords as necessary. Dumb question, if I want a folder of bookmarks on my personal toolbar, can I change the icon from a folder to something else? If so, how? I couldn't find how to do it yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
Kelly Clowers wrote: On Dec 29, 2007 8:50 AM, ZephyrQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all the news of Netscape 'fading off' into mozilla and its ilk, is does anyone know if Galeon is ever going to be updated? I've tried FireFox/etc. and there are a couple of things I've not be able to reproduce: Tabs...on the -right- hand side. After using Galeon for **years**, I miss this and the 'tab' plug-in only lets me put tabs on the top/bottom/left. Quickloading of pages. I don't know if this is a Galeon thing, but side by side with IceWeasel Galeon loads pages *much* faster. Years ago, Galeon was forked to create Epiphany. A few years later, they recombined under the name Epiphany. http://www.linux.com/feature/50021 I don't know how the feature-set of Epiphany+extensions compares to Galeon overall. There is a tabs-left extension, but no tabs-right extension as far as I can see. However, I just changed 5 words and the file names of the tabs-left extension and created a working tabs-right extension. Here is the code for the tabs-left extension: http://rmjokers.blogspot.com/2006/11/dont-let-tabs-control-you.html I think you can see just by looking at it how to make tabs-right. Cheers, Kelly Clowers Thanks for this, but I remember when Epiphany was developed...to be a 'simpler, kinder' browser. Unfortunately, every time I use it, I miss the ability to tweak it (again, I've used the same settings for Galeon for 5+ years...). Thanks for all the input. I'm trying to play with IceWeasel now to make it suit my needs, but I will look at Opera to play with it. Change is hard... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Dec 29, 2007 8:50 AM, ZephyrQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all the news of Netscape 'fading off' into mozilla and its ilk, is does anyone know if Galeon is ever going to be updated? I've tried FireFox/etc. and there are a couple of things I've not be able to reproduce: Tabs...on the -right- hand side. After using Galeon for **years**, I miss this and the 'tab' plug-in only lets me put tabs on the top/bottom/left. Quickloading of pages. I don't know if this is a Galeon thing, but side by side with IceWeasel Galeon loads pages *much* faster. Thanks for this, but I remember when Epiphany was developed...to be a 'simpler, kinder' browser. Unfortunately, every time I use it, I miss the ability to tweak it (again, I've used the same settings for Galeon for 5+ years...). Thanks for all the input. I'm trying to play with IceWeasel now to make it suit my needs, but I will look at Opera to play with it. Change is hard... IMO, GNOME/Gtk apps seem to feel[*] like Windows apps. Some will think that's Bad, but because I need to have a Windows PC right next to my Linux box, that's a Good Thing. If GNOME had a more complete and full-featured control center and Miguel de Icaza didn't have his ass half-way up Bill Gates' ass, it would be the perfect DE for someone who wants to *use* a computer instead of constantly fiddle with it. [*] Except that GNOME/Gtk apps know how to multi-thread, and don't crash. Just played with Opera for a while. I was impressed. Not afraid to pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage (heck, considering how much $ I **don't** pay for software, dropping a few bucks here and there for a program worth it feels good...). Now I just have to make sure it handles .pdf stuff right (work requirement). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Galeon R.I.P?
With all the news of Netscape 'fading off' into mozilla and its ilk, is does anyone know if Galeon is ever going to be updated? I've tried FireFox/etc. and there are a couple of things I've not be able to reproduce: Tabs...on the -right- hand side. After using Galeon for **years**, I miss this and the 'tab' plug-in only lets me put tabs on the top/bottom/left. Quickloading of pages. I don't know if this is a Galeon thing, but side by side with IceWeasel Galeon loads pages *much* faster. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nvidia-glx redux...
I am also still having problems getting nvidia-glx to work under Etch with latest updates. nv works fine (but no glx...). I've checked my apt-sources list and made sure that the appropriate drivers are pointing to the appropriate version. I've edited the xorg.conf file back and forth several times (usually manually changing 'nv' to 'nvidia' and back again when glx couldn't load) and checked the previous thread for help (read the man pages and other docs.) Unfortunately, none of it helped. I'm running a GeoForce FX 5500 on an AMD Duron (1.3G) but using the i386 stock kernel. Does this have anything to do with my problem (i.e. do I need to upgrade the kernel to i686 or k7?). Note that glx worked fine before last xorg up-dates. Or do I need to downgrade xorg to its previous version? Thank you for the help. I was using Ubuntu the past couple of years and I think it made me lazy (I went back to straight Debian this summer). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia-glx redux...
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:56:36AM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote: I've edited the xorg.conf file back and forth several times (usually manually changing 'nv' to 'nvidia' and back again when glx couldn't load) and checked the previous thread for help (read the man pages and other docs.) Just changing nv to nvidia doesn't help. Look at nvidia-xconfig. Doug. This didn't work either. I ran it and re-started--it failed. Current error message says Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module which lead me to the question about kernels... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia-glx redux...
ZephyrQ wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:56:36AM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote: I've edited the xorg.conf file back and forth several times (usually manually changing 'nv' to 'nvidia' and back again when glx couldn't load) and checked the previous thread for help (read the man pages and other docs.) Just changing nv to nvidia doesn't help. Look at nvidia-xconfig. Doug. This didn't work either. I ran it and re-started--it failed. Current error message says Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module which lead me to the question about kernels... Did some double checking. I'm running on 2.6.18-5-486. The nvidia kernel module is the one for 2.6.18-4-486. Installing the module for 5-486 will probably help... ...so dumb question. Running the AMD Duron (1.3), which is better: the i486, the i686, or the k7 modules (and kernel)? Again, thanx for your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia-glx redux...
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 01:54:02PM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote: Current error message says Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module which lead me to the question about kernels... Did some double checking. I'm running on 2.6.18-5-486. The nvidia kernel module is the one for 2.6.18-4-486. Installing the module for 5-486 will probably help... :-)) ...so dumb question. Running the AMD Duron (1.3), which is better: the i486, the i686, or the k7 modules (and kernel)? The more specific the better. I don't know the Duron. I'm assuming that its not amd64. Will it run k7? Again, did some research. The Duron is an Athlon fork (?). So it should run k7. But other than installing the nvidia kernel specific to what I am running now, I'll save the kernel tweaking for another extended weekend ;- Thanx again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating stand-alone learning stations
Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, ZephyrQ wrote: I'm a high school special education teacher who has been given permission to test Linux on a few laptops to use as workstations. I've installed Edubuntu on 3, and would like some direction concerning creating a 'skeleton' desktop so every new user created has the same (limited) options. (I realize this isn't the Edubuntu group, but there is little traffic on the Edubuntu mailing list and I think this is a Debian/Linux specific fix. I could be wrong tho...) These stations will be used as both learning (I am in special need of reading software) tools and incentive (my classroom specializes in 'behavorial needs' students.) Can anyone direct me the to the right sites/documentation? Thank you. You could try logging in with user 'sample', fresh, and customize your standard desktop. Once you're satisfied with it, copy all contents from /home/sample to /etc/skel . When new users are created, their /home will be copied from /etc/skel, thus giving you that same standard. Quick, easy and effective. Just my $.02 Cassiano Leal Thank you. I knew there was a simple solution. Been awhile since I 'opened the hood' on the linux configuration (several years...). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Creating stand-alone learning stations
I'm a high school special education teacher who has been given permission to test Linux on a few laptops to use as workstations. I've installed Edubuntu on 3, and would like some direction concerning creating a 'skeleton' desktop so every new user created has the same (limited) options. (I realize this isn't the Edubuntu group, but there is little traffic on the Edubuntu mailing list and I think this is a Debian/Linux specific fix. I could be wrong tho...) These stations will be used as both learning (I am in special need of reading software) tools and incentive (my classroom specializes in 'behavorial needs' students.) Can anyone direct me the to the right sites/documentation? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using sources to update packages...
It has been a **long** while since I ran pure Debian (2+ years) and I seem to have forgotten... ...Will I mess up the system if I choose to 'upgrade' a package by compiling from sources (in this case just a game)? I'm on Etch, but thinking of going up to Lenny...has it stabilized a bit? (Realizing that it can be a *long* time between stable upgrades...) Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: synaptic issues...
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 10:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Mar 2003 23:24:49 -0600 ZephyrQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: problem?). I checked /var/cache/apt and most of the files have been downloaded--but when I re-run synaptic to install the debs, it gives me a seg fault. Should I just stick with apt-get? I liked being able to browse available packages in X...aptitude's interface is way to clunky for me (too many places to get lost, IMHO). Once the packages have been downloaded you don't really need to browse the list, right? Do apt-get -f install --no-download to finish what you're trying to do now. Thank you. This will finish things up for me... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
synaptic issues...
I've been trying to do some upgrading to testing. I installed the newest synaptic (I like the interface logic better than aptitude) but it seems to puke when I try to upgrade some things. I walked away from it for it to finish after a *long* download (5+ hours) and I came back to a shutdown computer (which may be a hardware problem?). I checked /var/cache/apt and most of the files have been downloaded--but when I re-run synaptic to install the debs, it gives me a seg fault. Should I just stick with apt-get? I liked being able to browse available packages in X...aptitude's interface is way to clunky for me (too many places to get lost, IMHO). Thanx for the help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quicky about acroread...
I haven't found a .deb for acroread, Acrobat's linux version of their .pdf reader. Does one exist? I realize it isn't free, but I also cannot get xpdf and/or ghostview to deal with passworded pdf files (as sent to me by my wife's student loan people...) I've dled the tarball, but can I install it without screwing something in my woody system? (aka, apt?) Thanks for your patience with the Debian newbie... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quick aptitude question...
I'm trying to take better control of my installation, and fired up aptitude. I inadvertently tried to do an upgrade (to woody rc1) a while back and am trying to cancel it. Is there a way to 'wipe' queued actions and/or reset aptitude? Yes, I've RTFM, but haven't gotten anywhere except 'pkgstate' in /var/lib/aptitude. Can I delete this without undo problems? And will this accomplish my task? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which to upgrade first?
Quick question. I have been slowly (but surely) fine tuning my install of Debian (Woody stock--not the upgrade...yet). I finally redid my kernel to 2.4.18 to enable various things (like sound). But I have an nvidia card (yea, here we go again). Should I upgrade to XFree86 4.2 unstable or testing *before* I mess with the nvidia kernel stuff? Also, will the upgrade to 4.2 mess with the rest of my stable Woody install? Thanx. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing--Wha???
Thank you, the moving the .REAL command fixed it. I was able to configure my printer Now I have to start tracking down little problems...like my audio and upgrading the kernal so I can use the latest nvidia drivers... On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 14:05, Joey Hess wrote: ZephyrQ wrote: I try to run that command, but get an error: Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing It sounds to me like you got a debian system installed that has the fake start-stop-daemon command used by debootstrap when bootstrapping the system. That is supposed to be replaced by the real start-stop-daemon command during installation; I cannot imagine how your system got into this state. If I'm right, you can probably fix it by: mv /sbin/start-stop-daemon.REAL /sbin/start-stop-daemon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing--Wha???
I've just installed Debian this past weekend, but I seem to have quite a few problems getting things to run right. The common thread seems to be the following: I try to run that command, but get an error: Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing I cannot get my printer set up...I keep getting this error. Every time I shutdown (init 0 *or* shutdown -h now) I get a screen full--and I have to shut off the system which, of course, forces a fsck check at next boot up (at ~80 Gigs, quite a chunk of time) It happens at other inconvenient times as well. Including boot up where various daemons are supposed to be starting but don't, giving me the error message. How do I fix it?? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quick way to set up printing?
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 19:40, Jerome Acks Jr wrote: On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 12:06:27AM -0600, ZephyrQ wrote: But I can't seem to link to localhost:631! I tried with both Galeon and Mozilla and Lynx! I keep getting an error! If you cannot connect to localhost:631, the cupsys daemon, cupsd, may not be running. If it is not running, start it by running /etc/init.d/cupsys start as root. I try to run that command, but get an error: Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing (Which, BTW, is also causing a serious problem shutting down. I have to copy the daemon command somewhere else to shut down). Thank you for your help, I really am getting a bit peeved that I haven't been able to get my printer up and going yet--inefficient for work and all that... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quick way to set up printing?
Somehow, printing didn't get set up when I installed lpd. I need a quick and dirty way to get my OOffice stuff printing so I can get some work done--I'll convert to CUPS later (I've never used it, so I'm not familiar with it...) Having used Debian for about 3 days, I am starting to miss SuSE's yast (NOT yast2...which is why I'm switching in the first place...). BTW, I did install/try printtool, but my printer port is not getting detected... Thanx again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quick way to set up printing?
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 22:52, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:05:59PM -0600, ZephyrQ wrote: Somehow, printing didn't get set up when I installed lpd. I need a quick and dirty way to get my OOffice stuff printing so I can get some work done--I'll convert to CUPS later (I've never used it, so I'm not familiar with it...) so was i when i started out. but cups is quick and easy. cupsys, cupsomatic ppd is all that you will need. then links localhost:631. took me less than a day to get it running. But I can't seem to link to localhost:631! I tried with both Galeon and Mozilla and Lynx! I keep getting an error! Help! I'm trying to print a test for my students in the morning through OOffice! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now that I am up (help now please)
Weekend spent messing with dselect and aptitude. I now have a usable-but-not-quit-comfortable system going. Some queries: 1. I keep getting a 'fake start-stop daemon' error when I try to shut down (init 0 from root). It keeps scrolling across the screen and I have to shut off manually--which forces fsck the next boot-up (long time on a 60 G drive!). How can I fix? 2. Can't get wvdial to connect under user--have to use root. I've tried to chmod stuff, but I must be missing something because I keep getting an error 2 from pppd. Fix? 3. What script/file can I create in my user directory so I can control what window manager I am running? (gnome, kde, icewm). Currently, I have to run g/k/x(dm) from root. Thank you for your patience... BTW--I love aptitude, once I figured out how to use it! dpkg-reconfigure, though, is giving me problems; it either won't run or give me a 'laptop fan' error (BTW, I'm not on a laptop!). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stripping EOL feeds...
On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 22:34, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: sorry i am not an expert and myself learning to use vim. however, vim contain search and replace command. so basically we are trying to replace EOL with nothing. how exactly the command will look - i do not know :( Thank you to all who sent options. I tried various commands, including the 'cat' command piped to 'tr'. This gave me what I asked for--though a little sloppy. I wish a word processor would make it easier to find/replace such characters--just like Word Perfect used to (I assume they still do, but I haven't used it since ver. 6)--this made reformatting a breeze and allowed me to be creative with some of my macros. Unfortunately, I do *not* see any of the current WYSIWYG linux offerings doing the same...emacs and vi(m) apparently can get the job done, but they both require more expertise than I was able to learn in the time I had. Again, thanx to all! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stripping EOL feeds...
I'm trying to format the debian install manual (text version) for printing and I'm trying to save a couple of trees. Is there an easy way to strip the line breaks so the text will come out unformatted? This way I can reduce the font and print whole pages of itty bitty debian install text which, in my own sick way, helps me find info I need quicker... Thank you. BTW, I have looked in OO, Abiword, Vim, Emacs, etc. and I can *NOT* find a tool to do this like the old Word Perfect 5.2 could (old sigh here...). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ready to take the plunge...
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 19:13, Vineet Kumar wrote: * ZephyrQ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021118 19:48]: I've pretty much decided to take the Debian plunge, but now I need some direction. Congratulations! =) Thanx. Yeah, I'd say wipe it. Back up anything valuable. It's good that you have a separate /home; you can use it straightaway during the installation. The only thing to watch out for are config files under your home directory that may be for incompatible versions of programs installed from woody (Debian stable). For example, if you have a .mozilla from a different version and it chokes -- just be aware that it's a potential source for why does foo seg fault? after installing. Any suggestions which config files to wipe? You've already said Mozilla--my kids have been using KDE3...is that not on woody? Is it available? I would also like a *little* dead-tree documentation to help me through the install as I have heard it is a bear to accomplish. It's not quite as bad as its reputation. Most people think that because it's console-based instead of X11-based, that scores it twice as many difficulty points from the get-go. Especially if you've installed and run a GNU/Linux system before, it's manageable. Finally, what problems should I expect and what is the best way to correct (if possible)? The best way to prevent problems is to read the installation manual. Go ahead and print it out and keep it by your side; it won't hurt (except the trees). Then, if you have problems, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =) Thank you. CDs ordered. Plan to use upcoming holiday weekend for 'changing of the guard', so to speak... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ready to take the plunge...
I've pretty much decided to take the Debian plunge, but now I need some direction. Is it better to wipe my partition clean (it has SuSE 8 right now) and then install? My /home partition is on another physical drive (for now) so it will be fine, but what about other packages I have installed? Save the tarballs and burn a CD? Also, who should I get the distribution from? I have a slow dial-up connection, so downloading a whole system (with OOffice) is a bit unweildy. I would also like a *little* dead-tree documentation to help me through the install as I have heard it is a bear to accomplish. Along those lines, should I perhaps get Libranet? Or is the basic install intuitive enough for me to walk through (4+ years with linux, never re-compiled a kernal but did most everything else)? Finally, what problems should I expect and what is the best way to correct (if possible)? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking to switch to debian...
On Sun, 2002-11-10 at 09:22, Rob Weir wrote: I'm coming from SuSE 8.0 and have been increasingly frustrated with the direction SuSE is going (first installed SuSE 5 years ago) and several have suggested that Debian was the way for me to go. I am looking for the following: --more control over boot process and graphical logins (I hate it) If you don't like graphical logins, then don't install (x|k|g)dm. Surely Suse doesn't actually mandate a graphical login manager? Fresh install of 8.0 does. Unless you jump through the hoops of changing run-level stuff, you don't have a choice. I know, I tried through their admin tool yast2. Didn't use to be this way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking to switch to debian...
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 19:18, Edward Guldemond wrote: --ability to recover when occasional problems happen (without having to reinstall to recover my X desktop) What occasional problems might you be having with SuSE? With my experiences with Debian, there usually aren't many problems unless you are running the unstable distribution, but then, there aren't too many problems there either. Due to a glitch/powersurge/young-un kicking the case (I'm not sure which) I lost my ability to go into X. The startx message kept comming up with a /tmp/**lock file or some such not being available. I tried to fix manually, but to no avail. Which is where I started my frustrating dance with re-installation (even tried YOU which made things worse). I have had to back-grade my system to make it usuable. Debian stable has GNOME 1.4 right now, and it's anybody's guess when GNOME 2.0 will be avaliable. (You could compile it from source...) Gnome 2 seems too flaky yet--and not enough apps are upgraded yet. I'm happy with 1.4 (or was, until SuSE messed it up...) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking to switch to debian...
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 19:26, nate wrote: debian does not have a slick install. It is very easy to install and configure provided your using supported hardware(this is the single biggest obstacle to debian I believe is the supported hardware). You will have to get your hands dirty while you learn about debian. It takes time. I still learn things now and then about it and I've been using it for more then 4 years. Big question here--NVidia drivers. Does Debian handle them well? Having used Debian, and SuSE, and Redhat, and slackware and a dozen other Linux/BSD/Unix variants I always find myself wanting debian the most over anything else. I came up with a list of the things I like about debian in this message: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/msg03338.html You may want to browse through the thread to see what people said, its quite lengthy: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/thrd7.html#03149 Thank you. I've bookmarked these and have started on them--lots to chew on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
