Re: Can't get sound to work!
Ok, I got sound working. On my windows boot the sound was on IRQ 5, it kept trying to put it on IRQ 7 in linux. I added a /etc/modutils/sound file and put options sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1 in it, but when I rebooted it seemed to ignore that file. So instead I edited /etc/modules. It had a single line in it that said: sb So I change it to read: sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1 That worked. What is confusing me now, is that when I shut down, during my shutdown messages I get a message that the alsa driver isn't running. This is correct, it shouldn't be. But I can't figure out why my machine is trying to shut it down. I checked in rcS.d and my rc5.d directories (I'm running in mode 5) but I can't figure out where my machine is trying start/shutdown the alsa drivers. Also, during my boot sequence my machine scans for SCSI interfaces. I don't have any scsi interfaces so how can I stop it from doing this scan everytime I boot? BTW, apt-get rocks. Now I know why people who use debian never go to anything else. I'm addicted :) Kent West wrote: Rev. Ferret wrote: Ok, I added myself to user audio and I now get sound from things. There is just one problem. The sound skips. It sounds like a broken record player, where it plays the same bit over and over again. I tried chmod'ing the audio things to world usable, but it didn't help. Any ideas on how to get it to stop skipping? At least I'm getting some sound now :) Probably one of two things: (1) wrong sound driver or problems with the driver (2) IRQ or IOPort conflict If this is an ISA card, it's probably the second. Do you have a dual-boot with Win9x? If so, what IRQ/io does it report the card being on? Does this match what Linux thinks? Or maybe it's a jumper-configured card, in which case, make sure Linux sees the same settings that the card is actually on. If Linux doesn't match the actual settings, you can feed the settings to the module when it installs. For example, I have a file /etc/modutils/sound which has the two lines: options uart401 irq=9 io=0x330 options sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1 hth, Kent
Can't get sound to work!
Hi, I'm having problems getting my sound blaster 16 working. I used modconf to select the sb module, which in turn selected a bunch of the oss modules. After doing this, I can play audio cd's, but whenever I try to run gmix it tells me that I do not have a mixer installed or my kernel doesn't support sound. When I run XMMS, it tells me my kernel either doesn't support sound or my card is not configured correctly. I figured my kernel supports sound because I can load sound modules and play audio cd's, so something else must be wrong. What else do I have to do to get sound to work under debian? Thanks, Steve
Re: Can't get sound to work!
It seems that my card is recognized. Everything looks normal except for the output of my /dev/sndstat. I can use apps to control tracks of audio cd's and things like that. I just can't use any mixer apps or play any audio except for cd audio. I can't figure out what's wrong. Using redhat and mandrake I was able to just do sndconfig and pick soundblaster and everything worked. I only seem to be having this problem with debian. The results of cat /proc/interrupts has the following entry: 7:4soundblaster The output of /proc/ioports has this entry: 0220-022f : soundblaster lsmod contains these entries: sb,uart401,sound,soundlow,soundcore cat /dev/sndstat lists the following: OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130 Load type: Driver loaded as a module Kernel: Linux neuro 2.2.18pre21 #1 Sat Nov 18 18:47:15 EST 2000 i686 Config options: 0 Installed Drivers: Card config: Audio devices: 0: ESS ES1879 AudioDrive (rev 11) (3.01) Synth devices: Midi devices: 0: ESS ES1688 Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster Kent West wrote: Rev. Ferret wrote: Hi, I'm having problems getting my sound blaster 16 working. I used modconf to select the sb module, which in turn selected a bunch of the oss modules. After doing this, I can play audio cd's, but whenever I try to run gmix it tells me that I do not have a mixer installed or my kernel doesn't support sound. When I run XMMS, it tells me my kernel either doesn't support sound or my card is not configured correctly. I figured my kernel supports sound because I can load sound modules and play audio cd's, so something else must be wrong. What else do I have to do to get sound to work under debian? Thanks, Steve I'm no expert, so if you have any further questions, reply to all, not just to me, so that the list members can throw in their two cents. (1) You need to have support in your kernel for your sound card. There are two methods of doing this; one is to compile it in; the other is to plug it in as a module. Your description indicates that you're using the module method. (2) Playing an audio CD doesn't really depend on the software sound support; most CD drives will start spinning as soon as you put in a CD, and the sound from an audio CD is piped through the audio cable directly to the sound card. What a broken software setup will do is prevent you from using apps to control tracks, volume, etc. About the only thing playing an audio CD proves is that the hardware is functional (which is a good thing to know); it also points strongly to a lack of IRQ conflict (although not necessarily). (3) When you boot up, you should see some info scroll by concerning your sound card. But generally it goes by too fast to see, and you can see it after the fact by running dmesg|more. (4) You should be able to see if you card is recognized, and on which IRQ, by running cat /proc/interrupts (my card is on IRQ 5 and 9). (5) Ditto for IO by running cat /proc/ioports (my card's on 220-2FF and 330-3FF). (6) You can see what modules are loaded by running lsmod (I've got soundcore, sound, uart401, and sb). (7) I'm not sure what cat /proc/devices indicates, but it lists my sound card, so it might be relevant. (8) Perhaps the most informative command is cat /dev/sndstat, which on my machine reports: OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130 Load type: Driver loaded as a module Kernel: Linux westk03 2.2.18 #2 Thu Jan 18 22:52:14 CST 2001 i586 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Card config: Audio devices: 0: Sound Blaster Pro (8 BIT ONLY) (3.02) Synth devices: Midi devices: 0: MPU-401 (UART) MIDI 1: Sound Blaster Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster Perhaps this info will get you a bit further on your quest to get your card working. Good luck! Kent
Re: Can't get sound to work!
Ok, I added myself to user audio and I now get sound from things. There is just one problem. The sound skips. It sounds like a broken record player, where it plays the same bit over and over again. I tried chmod'ing the audio things to world usable, but it didn't help. Any ideas on how to get it to stop skipping? At least I'm getting some sound now :) Marcial Zamora III wrote: - Forwarded message from Rev. Ferret [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Hi, I'm having problems getting my sound blaster 16 working. I used modconf to select the sb module, which in turn selected a bunch of the oss modules. After doing this, I can play audio cd's, but whenever I try to run gmix it tells me that I do not have a mixer installed or my kernel doesn't support sound. When I run XMMS, it tells me my kernel either doesn't support sound or my card is not configured correctly. I figured my kernel supports sound because I can load sound modules and play audio cd's, so something else must be wrong. What else do I have to do to get sound to work under debian? - End forwarded message - I had the same problem, and you can do one of 2 things.. you can add yourself as a user to the audio group, or just chmod all the /dev/mixer devices to where they are world usable.. man chmod =) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Possible AWE32 package bug
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 11:35:38AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, both the program and the library should be under /usr, according to the File-system Hierarchy Standard (you don't need them to boot, restore, recover or repair the system). Except /etc/modules is read before mounting filesystems. Yes, but you should be able to let the awe_wave module be loaded first as the kernel docs says, removing from modules.conf the post-install line which runs sfxload, and run sfxload later from an /etc/init.d script (with /usr mounted). Except, the correct way to use modutils IS to use the post-install line, because unused modules can be set to be periodically removed. A better solution would be to leave the post-install line and move the LOADING of awe_wave into /etc/init.d, after all FS' mounted. Or maybe we need a '/etc/modules.later' or something which would list modules not necessary for booting. I dunno. =) This might be a missing documentation bug in the sfx-drv package, though. (Sorry, I meant the awe-drv package) At least. Or the script for loading the sound modules in /etc/init.d should be provided by sfx-drv (maybe). Yes. It would be a nice idea. ALSA works that way, BTW. On the other hand, we should be able to provide some useful sound patches in order to be able to call sfxload from there. I don't know if there are any DFSG compliant ones available... k
ext2 compression on Slink
I'm wondering if anyone has a set of Debianised 'e2cfs' packages for Slink to go along with the ext2 compression kernel patch. The version on the ex2 website (http://e2compr.memalpha.cx/e2compr/index.html) is a patched e2fsprogs 1.18. Slink has e2fsprogs version 1.13, and version 1.18 does not compile in slink. I'm not sure if it needs glibc 2.1 to compile or something else. And the older 'ancilary' package supplied as a tarball requires libc5. :/ There is a define in the e2fsprogs package that is supposed to compile against headers included in the package instead of headers under /usr/include, but I found out that it references files that it doesn't include. I'll post the error messages I get if anyone wants to take a crack at this. I can't dist-upgrade the machine I'm trying to get this on to Potato, because it has only a 100MB hard drive and a floppy. And I'm not sure that a compile of libc6 from potato would work on it.
Re: SB live SMP drivers?
You seem to have the right idea with #1 below. Compiling the modules seems to be a little tricky for some people, so I'll tell you how I handle it. Install the alsa-source and other alsa debs. You'll have an 'alsa-driver.tar.gz' file in /usr/src that you'll have to extract yourself (I believe it's done because upgrading the source in-place will likely break it) Now go into your kernel source tree (kernel-source-2.2.17?), run the config (make menuconfig or make xconfig) and make sure you have sound support marked as module, and none of the card-specific stuff selected. Save your kernel config and then run: make-kpkg clean make-kpkg modules-clean make-kpkg [--revision=revision#] configure make-kpkg modules make-kpkg kernel-image And the alsa drivers build will complain if you don't have pgp installed, but I just ignore that. No idea if the live will be happy, but I'm running an awe64 and a sb16 on an SMP machine. Hope this helps. On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Svante Signell wrote: I've finally taken the time to install a Soundblaster Live card on my SMP-box. Trying to switch from oss- to to alsa drivers at the same time creates problems. Background is: 1. SMP kernel compiled from kernel-source-2.2.17. 2. Download of binary (non SMP) kernel-image-2.2.17 is set on hold. 3. Installed alsa packages: alsa-base, alsa-utils, alsaconf Trying to install alsa-modules-2.2.17 to get access to the binary modules, such as snd-card-emu10k1.o the lock on kernel-image is released, downloading the (non SMP) kernel-image!! What to do? 1. Download alsa-source-0.5.9c-4.deb and compile. If this is the recommended way to do this: how? Is there something simular to make-kpkg available? 2. Download alsa-*.tar.gz from http://www.alsa-project.org and compile from source. 3. Download emu10k1.tar.gz from http://opensource.creative.com and compile from source. 4. Skip the whole thing, and reinstall the old SB16 :-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help updating calendar
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:54:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: If there are no fixed events then everything should go in the yearly files. The events are fixed. The main point is that the Jewish calendar is based on the motion of the moon, so that a regular Jewish year is 354 days long (Yet there are years with an extra month and maybe other mechanisms to compensate for that). But as far as I know every Jewish event could be calculated in advance. In this context, fixed = have a set Gregorian date. So there are no fixed events in the Jewish calendar. Julian And events in the Wicca 'calendar' are based on the solstices and equinoxes and would not be fixed either.
Strange syslog messages on console
I'm getting these funny messages broadcast to all open shells on my machine. I think it started happening after I disabled denied packet logging in ipchains (having 8MB compressed logfiles isn't fun) I think this is the third time happening, and it doesn't seem to follow any known pattern. Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Sat Sep 9 22:26:20 2000 ... tarot Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Sat Sep 9 22:27:12 2000 ... tarot last message repeated 2 times
Re: please help updating calendar
A calendar.wicca-n and calendar.wicca-s file would also be appreciated. Note that the sabbats and esbats are reversed between northern and southern hemispheres due to being agriculturaly-based. On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Marco d'Itri wrote: A calendar.hindu file is needed for 2000/2001 and the yearly calendar.christian needs to be updated to the new syntax. Duplicated events needs to be removed from the yearly calendar.judaic files. I'll also be happy to add the events of your religion of choice. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delete key not working as expected in emacs under X
I'm using GNU emacs 20 with mule. In xterm and on console emacs gives me what I consider to be proper behaviour. My BackSpace key on keyboard will quote as '^?' and is described with 'describe-key as 'DEL runs the command backward-delete-char-untabify'. My Delete key quotes as '^[[3~' and is described as 'deletechar runs the command delete-char'. However, when I run emacs in native X mode, both the BackSpace and Delete keys behave as the BackSpace key, quoting as '^?' and describing as 'DEL runs the command backward-delete-char-untabify'. xemacs works 'correctly' in native X mode, but has a much larger footprint. So what do I need to do with GNU emacs to make it work in native X the way I want it to?
Re: Is it just me or.......
I thought this was just my ISP having another goof-up. I guess not. On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Cam Ellison wrote: Me, too .. and quite a few with empty bodies. On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:33:26 -0700 (PDT), Greg Strockbine. wrote: No its not just you. I've noticed the dups too. - g.s. On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Christopher W. Aiken wrote: Is it just me or has every message posted to this Debain list been posted 3-4 times today? I've had 150+ emails and they were just duplicates of previous postings over and over !! Cam Ellison, Ph.D., R.Psych. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the lovely Sunshine Coast, where it only SEEMS to rain. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Emacs meta-key
Depends on what keyboard map you're using. I'm running xfree86 4.0.1 from Brandon's phase1 debs, but it's about the same way under 3.3.6. If you have a keyboard with the windows keys you want to select a 104 key keyboard; then the window key is 'Meta' and the alt key is 'Alt'. Or if you use the 101 key keyboard, then one of your alt keys is 'Alt' and the other one is 'Meta'. And I don't remember for sure which is which. And if you're using Enlightenment as your window manager, you may have additional bucky-bit[1] complications. Last I used E, it completely ignored the X keyboard mappings and the ICCCM input conventions. [1] bucky bits: Shift, Control, Alternate, Super, Hyper, Meta, Para and perhaps others. Refer to the Jargon File for 'bucky bits' and 'space-cadet keyboard' On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Nick Croft wrote: I have Debian woody on one machine, and in Emacs the Alt key functions as the Meta-key. That's fine. I installed potato on another machine (without going through slink). The alt-key won't function as meta in Emacs on this one. I've used xev to check. Sure enough alt is there, but not for Emacs. I've looked int Jespersen's Emacs book; for this problem he suggests asking your system admin. Well that's me and I'm no help. I've googled the topic, and got one posting to this list with the same question but no follow-up in the thread! ___ A related question: The .Xresources seems to get ignored by emacs when it loads, even though netscape pays attention to the .Xresources file. ( I do the xrdb -merge .Xresources, btw). Any emacs users there? Nick. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Video Sorenson
Does Apple's quicktime/java implementation work at all? On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Carl Fink wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 03:09:01PM +, Jaume Teixi wrote: how to view Video Sorenson under Debian ? xanim still doesn't support because of restricted license from Sorenson. The only way I know of is to use Apple's QuickTime under VMWare or equivalent. Unless Sorenson releases their codec, everyone else is stuck. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] I-Con's Science and Technology Programming http://www.iconsf.org/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Video Sorenson
Hmmm. I seem to remember the installer telling me it was a client. Go figure. Oh, and !lart Sorenson and Apple for licencing twinkiness. On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Carl Fink wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 10:23:21PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Apple's quicktime/java implementation work at all? According to Apple's web site, it's not a client. It's a development tool to write Java programs that incorporate QuickTime video. The web site or whatever would have to use QT for Java -- it isn't something you can install on your own computer. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum http://dm.net -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hardware Modems
This is a Lucent Venus chipset modem. AFAICR, this is a PCI modem chipset with an hardware DSP. You will need to have PCI serial support in your kernel, or you will have to use 'lspci' to determine resource use. You may want to check out www.linmodems.org for more information. There should be a little HOWTO about manually configuring setserial. Or you could try a 2.4.0-test kernel, if you are really desperate. On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to think that way, to. But, according to the reply they gave me (with an English even worse than mine), they did it !!! Our modem is a hardware modem, but it has not direct access to the COM port, so it will not work under weird operating systems, or something like that. Actually, the modem runs well under windows, reaching the capacity of 115 Kbps (at least, windows say that). Take a look at their DOS readme section: For WINDOWS 3.1 or DOS 6.X users: Because you need to tell modem what resource is available on your system, you need to run CONFIGP.EXE first. For example: To set modem on com2 use: CONFIGP /i3 /0x2F8 To inquire usage: CONFIGP /? - I think this CONFIGP is a TSR that makes the connection between the (hardware!!!) modem and the COM port. Isn't great? I spent a lot of money ($150) buying a hardware modem that cannot work under linux. I think that writing a driver for it is painless than doing so for winmodems. By the way, what does oxymoron mean? David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.wcu.edu cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Assunto: Re: Hardware Modems 17/08/00 14:43 On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're making hardware modems that DON'T work under Linux. What do you mean? Does anyone know what this is about? I know about WinModems, all winmodems are certainly hardware modems, but different from the ones that have intelligence left in, that don't off load the work to the CPU to save fifty cents in chips, and don't require a propriatary driver that are also hardware. I thought the usage here was hardware modem meant modems that don't off load to the CPU and don't require a propriatary driver, so either already work under Linux or can be made to do so by some good soul writing a drivers? What does he mean hardware modem that don't work under Linux? I HOPE that is an oxymoron, but given the rapacity of some companies, I fear the worst. I would normally edit the message in a reply, but someone may be able to decipher what these folks are talking about for me from the stuff I left in. --David David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely, useful, technically accurate, and friendly. - Repassado por Romeu Freitas Flores Junior/RJ/Petrobras em 17/08/00 11:49 - Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] m.brcc: Assunto: En: E0008224/Lucent Venus 16/08/00 Voice Modem 23:22 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:50 AM Subject: FW: E0008224/Lucent Venus Voice Modem -- Âà§eªÌ support/askey_notes ©ó 2000/08/15 11:49 AM --- kain 2000/08/14 03:31 PM ¦¬¥ó¤H¡G support/[EMAIL PROTECTED] °Æ¥»§Û°e¡G ¥D¦®¡G FW: E0008224/Lucent Venus Voice Modem Dear Sir This modem is hardware modem But we not have set com port tool for linux Regards Askey Technical Support Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED] ©ó 2000/08/10 06:56:39 AM ½Ð¦^À³ µ¹ Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED] ¦¬¥ó¤H¡Gsupport/askey_notes °Æ¥»§Û°e¡G ¥D¦®¡G Lucent Venus Voice Modem Is FCC H8NV 1456VQH-T (Lucent Venus Voice Modem) a hardware modem? I bought it expecting so. It works fine with MS Windows, but I cannot set it up under linux. It's not detected. Thanks Romeu F. Jr. Rio de Janeiro Brazil - att-1.htm (See attached file: att-1.htm) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe
Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error)
Are there any graphical browsers that will run on the console and render to framebuffer or GGI, and currently work fairly well? I remember hearing about one, but don't remember the name, and I recall at the time it was in alpha/developmental stage. On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Rogerio Brito wrote: On Aug 16 2000, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: Mozilla should improve much of this, but the default build is far too complex for a basic browser. Not to mention that this implies that Mozilla is *slow* (since it doesn't fit in core), depending on what it is doing (for basic navigation, it is ok; opening a new window makes it slow; navigating through the Preferences menus is even *slower*). Gzilla and/or Gnutella look like far more promising projects. Both are based on the Gecko rendering engine, but strip out much of the bloat being pumped into Mozilla. I don't know why the rationale of such a complex application is. Not even making considerations from a usability standpoint, the Mozilla coordination must have nightmares every single night for maintaining such a huge project. One of the basic laws of engineering is the KISS principle, of course. Anyway, back on the alternatives, Gzilla indeed looks like a promising project. It is nowadays called Armadillo and, last I checked, its homepage was http://www.gzilla.com/. Another free web-browser is Mnemonic, which even has packages for Debian. Its site is http://www.mnemonic.org/. BTW, it would be nice if people started using these browsers and giving feedback to their developers. In the mean time, we may continue to use w3m or links or lynx as our nice text browsers. All three are packaged in potato. :-) []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/nectar/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Modeline for ADI Multiscan E75
I had a quick look-through in my Jameco catalog but couldn't spot one. You're basically looking for a two-part ferrous oxide core with a shell that snaps around the cable. I'd expect almost any electrionic component supply store would carry them. On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Andrew McRobert wrote: sounds like a possibility ... what are those ferrite beads you're talking about? cheers Andrew - Andrew McRobert LLB B.Sc(Comp. Sci) IT Liaison Officer, School of Law MURDOCH UNIVERSITY Perth, Western Australia Ph: [+61 8 9360 6479] Fax: [+61 8 9310 6671] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:39 PM To: kmself@ix.netcom.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Modeline for ADI Multiscan E75 Shadowing.. Sounds like a cable problem actually. I get the efect on my system because I'm running it through a KVM switch. One of the systems I use where I work is also run through a switchbox and displays the same kind of problem. Perhaps you could try using a shorter cable (if the cable can detatch from the monitor) or add one or two of those ferrite beads around the cable. Might or might not work. On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 02:51:41PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote: hi Does anyone have a good Modeline for this monitor? I can get X running @ 1024x768 with 16bpp, but there's a bit of shadowing around eterm windows etc Have you fiddled with xvidtune? -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Licensing Information Request
Also, if you need the extras (such as paid per-incident technical support) you may wish to go to www.stormix.com and peruse their Debian-based commercial offerings. I believe they may be better-equipped to answer your concerns regarding the United States exports and sanctions laws. Also keep in mind that the concept of export restrictions is outside the scope of our social contract. On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Ron Rademaker wrote: I'd advice you to go to www.debian.org and read the social contract, I think it'll give you enough information. Ron Rademaker PS. Basically it says that debian is and will remain 100% free (it also says what's meant by free), and some other things... On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Dompnier, Frank wrote: Name: Frank Dompnier Company Name: Talisman Energy Inc. Address: Suite 3400, 888 3rd Street SW Calgary, Alberta T2P 5C5 Phone: (403) 237-1284 Fax: (403) 237-1674 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Request type: S/W Export restrictions We are interested in purchasing Debian Linux for our subsidiary company based in Khartoum, Sudan. Please confirm that the use of this technology will not constitute a prohibited export of goods or technology under existing United States sanctions laws for this country. If I've contacted you in error, please forward this correspondence to your sales or legal representative. I look forward to your reply. Regards, Frank Dompnier
Re: Modeline for ADI Multiscan E75
Shadowing.. Sounds like a cable problem actually. I get the efect on my system because I'm running it through a KVM switch. One of the systems I use where I work is also run through a switchbox and displays the same kind of problem. Perhaps you could try using a shorter cable (if the cable can detatch from the monitor) or add one or two of those ferrite beads around the cable. Might or might not work. On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 02:51:41PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote: hi Does anyone have a good Modeline for this monitor? I can get X running @ 1024x768 with 16bpp, but there's a bit of shadowing around eterm windows etc Have you fiddled with xvidtune? -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
Re: can't compile cdfs
Symlinking /usr/include/[linux|asm] into /usr/src/linux-dir is generally
a bad idea. I suggest deleting those symlinks and reinstalling your
libc6-dev, and then edit the Makefile to something like this:
heathen:/usr/src/patches/cdfs-0.3d# less Makefile
OBJS=audio.o cdXA.o cddata.o hfs.o iso.o proc.o root.o utils.o
cdfs.o: $(OBJS)
$(LD) -r $(OBJS) -o $@
$(OBJS) cdfs.o: cdfs.h
.c.o:
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17-usb-trelos/include
-O -Wall -c $
.PHONY: clean reload
clean:
-rm -f *.o *~ core
reload: cdfs.o
umount /cdfs; rmmod cdfs; insmod cdfs; mount /cdfs
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Armin Wegner wrote:
Hello,
I've installed yesterdays frozen and recompiled the kernel 2.2.17. It's
up and running. Fine.
But I failed to compile the non standard kernel module cdfs.o.
I've linked /usr/include/{linux,asm} to
/usr/src/linux/include/{linux,asm-i386}.
I get following output from make.
I get the same error with 2.2.16 kernel sources installed.
I must have forgotten something?
What`s wrong?
Armin
Re: Frame buffer devices on unconventional monitor
Renato, Have you checked out xi87.com for information? I have an IBM 9504 workstation display, and found a lot of info about it on their site. They also custom-BIOS video cards which initialise into the proper settings for your monitor, if you want to go that route. I recall having a lot of trouble converting the supplied XF86 modeline into an fbdev modeline. I was also not able to get modeline2fb to produce a working modeline for my monitor. If gentlebeing Mahoney's supplied fb mode works for you, though, write up a little boot-time script to have fb set the video mode. On my Potato systems I would put the script in /etc/init.d/setfbdev.sh for startup with priority 07, so your display is viewable BEFORE the root fs gets checked. Oh, after boot you will want to log in on the first console and run 'fbset -a mode name' because the above script only has one active VC to work with. AFAIK there is no way on i386 to set the VC default. If you want to play with the 2.3-series or 2.4.0 test kernels (-test4 seems to be the last stable one on my systems), then you should be able to add your custom mode into the fbdev driver's mode table and boot the kernel straight into it. On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Pat Mahoney wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 09:12:50PM -0300, Renato Carmo wrote: Hi there! I use an adapted HP A2094-B monitor (an old 19'' monitor intended for HP workstations) which I adapted to use in a PC running Linux (the only way I can afford a 19'' monitor ... ;). After getting the synch timings from HP and making the cabling, I got it to work fine with XFree86. However the monitor has one single synchronization frequency (tech data goes at the end of this mail) and allows no use of text mode. When I first heard about frame buffer devices, it sounded as the answer to my prayers ... However, I tried to use fbset according to the instructions and got no satisfactory results. I would be really grateful if anyone could shed some light on this ... Do you have fb support in the kernel? Tech info follows: -- Video board: onboard SiS 530, 8Mb of the main memory as video memory. Motherboard: ASUS P5S-B rev 1.02, with a K6-500MHz and 128Mb of RAM. Monitor technical data (from HP Service Notes pp. 8-3, 8-4) is: # Product Number: HP A2094B # Exchange Part Nymber: 2090-0315 # Hemisphere: Southern # Size: 19'', 1280x1024 pixels # Refresh Rate: 72Hz # # Cables: 98700-61603 BNC to BNC # C2300-60005 9 pin to RGB # # Video: # Pixel rate: 135MHz # Pixel period: 7.4047ns # Horizontal display: 1280 pixels # Vertical display: 1024 pixels # # Horizontal: # Horizontal frequency: 78.125 KHz # Horizontal period: 12.800 microseconds (1H) # Horizontal front porch: 0.474 microseconds (H-FP) # Horizontal sync pulse width: 1.422 microseconds (H-SYNC) # Horizontal back porch: 1.422 microseconds (H-BP) # Horizontal blanking: 3.318 microseconds (H-BL) # Horizontal display time: 9.482 microseconds (H-DISP) # # Vertical: # Fields per frame: 1 # Field fraquency: 72.005 Hz # Field period: 13.888 ms (1 V) (1085 lines) # Vertical front porch: 38.40 microseconds (V-FR) (3H) # Vertical sync pulse width: 38.40 microseconds (V-SYNC) (3H) # Vertical back porch: 704.0 microseconds (V-BP) (55H) # Vertical blanking: 780.8 microseconds (V-BL) (61H) # Vertical display time: 13.107 ms (V-DISP) (1024H) Modeline (calculated manually) which works with XFree86: Modeline 1280x1024 134.9931280 1344 1536 17281024 1027 1030 1085 According to the instructions in Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt, I calculated: Modeline 1280x1024 134.9931280 1344 1536 17281024 1027 1030 1085 DCF HR SH1 SH2 HFL VR SV1 SV2 VFL - pixclock: pixel clock in ps (pico seconds): 100 / DCF = 7407.79151512 - left_margin: time from sync to picture: HFL - SH2 = 192 - right_margin: time from picture to sync:SH1 - HR = 64 - upper_margin: time from sync to picture:VFL - SV2 = 55 - lower_margin: time from picture to sync:SV1 - VR = 3 - hsync_len: length of horizontal sync: SH2 - SH1 = 192 - vsync_len: length of vertical sync: SV2 - SV1 = 3 Do you have modeline2fb utility? I believe it is in same package as fbset. When I run it on your modeline, I get the following, suitable for entry in /etc/fb.modes: # modes.fb - video mode descriptions for fbset # # See fbset(8) and fb.modes(5) for more information
Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian
Here's my 2 cents. This happened years and years ago, back in the days when the world was still Slackware, Red Hat was version 3, and Debian was bo. I had a little 486 system with a couple small IDE hard drives. One day my root inode disappears off my / partition. I have a shoebox full of Slackware floppies, which I was going to use to load a bootable system onto a spare 100MB hard drive I had laying around. Of course most of my floppies had developed format errors since the last time I'd used them. Plus, at that time Slackware had uploaded a corrupt set of floppy images. Some people I knew suggested I try Red Hat. Well, at the time the choices for Red Hat seemed to be either to install from a CD (I had no cdrom drive) or download the contents of the CD to a partition and install from there. Debian, as I soon found out, has a single-disk installation program and a five-disk installation set, which included ppp support and the ability to install from a network connection. Everything past that point was just icing on the proverbial cake. On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, John L. Fjellstad wrote: Hi, I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because it was available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating Debian for a possible switch. Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian Linux over Redhat Linux? I would also love to hear any the weaknesses Debian has compared RedHat. Thanks, -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Starting/Stopping SCSI HD's
You want scsi-spin. I'd suggest getting it out of woody, in the scsitools package. There's recently been a minor documentation fix done on it. I use it from /etc/init.d/halt on my headless all-SCSI machine so I know when I can turn it off even when I don't have serial console up. It's an OEM drive out of a Sparc that sounds like a jet engine. On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Simon Hales wrote: Hi Thanks for the quick reply, but unfortuately, no luck. I have done hdparm -h and man hdparm (I already had it, it seems), but very many of the features of hdparm (including all that seem to be relevant to starting/stopping/putting to sleep hard disks) are for IDE disks ONLY. These are hdparm -y, hdparm -Y, hdparm -s, [/dev/sdb] as far as I know, and when I try them, I get operation not supported on SCSI disks Regards Simon Hales On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, C. Falconer wrote: hdparm can do this I have memories of it being mentioned earlier try as root apt-get install hdparm to get it faster than using dselect. At 05:05 AM 7/28/00 +0100, you wrote: Hi I have a Debian Slink 486DX4-100, with 1Gb IDE and 2GB SCSI II hard disks (hda and sda) partitioned and mounted on /, /usr, /home, /var, and /usr/local. I also have a 420Mb SCSI II hard disk (sdb) which has no fixed mount point, but which I am using to store stuff I don't access frequently, eg, moving downloaded *.deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives. I leave my box running Debian all the time, day+night, and the 1Gb IDE and 2Gb SCSI disks are fairly modern, and very quiet, but this 420Mb disk consumes a fair amount of power, and sounds like a large aircraft taking off. I have configured this drive to respond to the start/stop unit SCSI command, and configured the Host Adapter (PCI AHA 2940 fast SCSI II) to send the start unit command to this drive during system boot. What I need to know now, is (how) can I send the start/stop unit command when Linux is running, so I can keep the thing spun down when is not mounted (which is most of the time), and only send the command to spin it up again when I need to mount it. I know that you can do this in FreeBSD, (which I run on another PC), the command is camcontrol stop [channel:device-id:LUN] or camcontrol start [channel:device-id:LUN]. I presume there is also a way I can do this in Linux? What packages (if any) will I need to add using Dselect? Hope someone can help (and I can take out these earplugs :-) Simon Hales -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Criggie -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 05:16:55PM -0700, John L. Fjellstad wrote: 4. The organization of the file system in Debian is superior, I don't know, still getting used to it. What I really liked from RedHat is that they moved all the startup files into a subdirectory of /etc/rc.d. Debian (at least 2.1) is using the Solaris style, i.e. /etc/rc?.d like he said, Debian's filesystem organiazation is superior. /etc/rc.d/* sucks. i very much prefer the saved typing when starting stopping services that debian has ie: /etc/init.d/foo stop instead of the unnecessarily verbose /etc/rc.d/init.d/foo stop Perhaps you meant the symlink farm of /etc/rc?.d/[SK]??* apt-get install file-rc will take care of all that for you. As the administrator you edit /etc/runlevel.conf instead of making and deleting symlinks.
Re: magicfilter trouble (was: apsfilter on Epson Stylus Color... Who can help?)
FWIW: Here's /etc/printcap on this machine: lp|esc660|Epson Stylus colour 660:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/esc660:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: You also want to install everything that magicfilter 'suggests'; all the converting programs that do the actual work aren't installed if you 'apt-get install' magicfilter. You can find the names of the programs by grepping through the filter file and checking the against the contents file. Or just run a pass through dselect. ;) On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Andreas Hetzmannseder wrote: I have the SC 660, amd the magicfilter package works well with it. I would like to see your printcap entry. Mine looks like this: lp|esc600|Epson Stylus Color 600:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/esc600:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/stylus_color_720dpi-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: But right now the printer does *nothing at all* - not even error messages. I have checked /dev/lp1, so this can't be the problem The SC 600 is well supported. Magicfilter has 3 filters for it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you create the filters by yourself? I only found two corresponding driver entries: stylus_color_360dpi and stylus_color_720dpi (with magicfilter version 1.2-28). Please tell me, how you made it work, I'm really curious... Best regards, Andreas -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Using Partition Magic with Debian
I used partition magic 4 when it first came out. It worked fairly well, but I found that it would corrupt logical partitions made under linux fdisk. Basically it would change the partition type of the extended partition which would hide the logical partitions. And if I recall re-setting the partition type did not work. Don't know if that's been fixed or not. On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone used Partition Magic in order to resize partitions under Debian? The software claims to support resizing Linux EXT2 filesystems, etc, but will I trash my system if I do so? I used Norton Ghost to image my system from a 2.1 gig drive to an 8.4 gig drive and it's working great so far, but I have all this slack space I would like to assign to various partitions, /usr etc. So, has anyone done this sucessfully and/or have alternate methods that can be used to add slack space to existing partitions? Any suggestions would be appreiciated, Regards, Todd - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: cannot talk with AT modem
Tom, Try feeding the IO port and IRQ you see from lspci into setserial. Or try building a 2.4.0-pre4 kernel, which has PCI serial support. I've heard that some PCI hardware DSP modems might not even use an uart, but I've never seen anything specific. On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Tomasz Barszczak wrote: Having the modem recognize the Hayes AT command language is not a reliable indicator. Many winmodem drivers have an AT command interpreter to satisfy older programs. When I bought the modem I was assured it is not a winmodem (software modem) but a hardware modem. I also searched the web and it seems it is not a winmodem. According to the USRobitics web site, this is a PCI modem device; are you able to open the case on your computer to verify that? Yes it is a PCI modem, I am sure of this. The contents of the file /proc/pci will also tell us if this is a PCI modem. I don't really understand output, but typing by hand what seems to be relevant: PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Serial controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 1). Vendor id=12b9. Device id=1008. Medium devsel. IRQ 5. I/O at 0xd400 There are 5 more devices: Multimedia audio controller, vendor 1274(Ensoniq) device 5800 IDE interface, vendor 1022(AMD) device 7409 ISA bridge, vendor 1022 device 7408 PCI bridge, vendor 1022 device 7007 Host bridge, vendor 1022 device 7006 Tomasz. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: apsfilter on Epson Stylus Color... Who can help?
My stepmother just got the SC 660. Unfortunately has only a 14.4k modem
connection. I'd guessed to use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] filer.
Color looks good with it?
BTW, have you heard anything about these printers burning out when
connected to an UPS?
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
I would also suggest giving magicfilter a try if you don't resolve your
apsfilter problem. I have the SC 660, amd the magicfilter package works
well with it. The SC 600 is well supported. Magicfilter has 3 filters
for it:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom
Andreas Hetzmannseder wrote:
I've grown a long grey beard (no, not really :) ...) about the
following problem: Attempting to print a simple text file with
lpr filename on my Epson Stylus Color 600 produces a single line:
Unknown device: escp2
Then it prints the same sentence on new sheets of paper over and over
again, so that I have to remove the paper to stop the printer.
The standard printcap entry by apsfilter looks like this:
lp|lp2|escp2-a4-auto-mono|escp2 auto mono:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/escp2-a4-auto-mono:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/escp2-a4-auto-mono/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/escp2-a4-auto-mono/acct:\
:if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-escp2-a4-auto-mono:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
The corresponding logfile tells me something like this:
[Total: 1 page on 1 sheet]
/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-escp2-a4-auto-mono: line 111:
246 Broken pipe
$DECOMPRESS a2ps ${A2PS_OPTS}
247 Done(1) | eval $PRINT_PS
I made several troubleshooting checks:
1. I created a simple printcap entry, which worked just fine. It looked
like this:
lp:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
2. a2ps and rewindstdin seem to be correctly installed, although not in
/usr/lib/apsfilter (the base directory) as proposed, but in
/usr/lib/apsfilter/bin. To be sure, i copied the two files into the
base directory, but the problem remained.
3. Ghostscript (gs) is installed (as well as netpbm and two
jpeg-libraries: libjpeg62 and libjpegg6a). gs resides in the /usr/bin
directory, which is in the search path of GLOBAL.sh as required.
4. I even forced some debugging output, but I haven't learnt shell
scripting yet, so I don't know what to make of it ... If someone is
interested in this, I will post it.
Have I forgotten something? Did I choose the wrong printer driver
(escp2)? Do I need to install additional packages (like X, which I don't
have at present)? Who has experience in using apsfilter on an Epson?
Please, answer...
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Re: Using Netmeeting thought a Debian Firewall
Closed-source software unfortunately. :/ I've been looking for something like it myself, but they have neither source nor a sparclinux build. On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Marc Dubrowski wrote: On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, Jay Kelly wrote: Will NetMeeting work thought a firewall or will I need to port the box to let it out. If I reme\mber right in the past I was able to send video out but not receive it for the other side. Anyone haveany ideas to fix this ? And what port will I need to open if this is the case ? Thanks Guys -- It feels so good, It's a marginal risk, when I clear off windows with fdisk Powered by Debian GNU/Linux. http://www.debian.org -- Check http://www.equival.com/phonepatch Marc Dubrowski Kind of a Network Administrator K.B.I.N.I.R.Sc.N.B. 29 rue Vautier B-1040 Brussels, Belgium -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: AWE64 making loud noise on bootup
AWE64 ISA works great with alsa, at least alsa 0.5.7 from Woody. I'm actually running a sb16 AND the awe64 in the same computer. Only popping I hear is from power on, but that's unfortunately normal. I'm not using anything midi, though. On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Félix Almeida wrote: Paulo J. da Silva e Silva wrote: Same here with an AWE 64 value. Hi Paulo! How are you? It's good to hear from you again. It happens when I use sfxload do load the midi table to the card at start up. But this only happens at boot time, and not at very boot. The card works perfectly well afterthat. I have this problem for more than a year now, so I believe it goes back to the time I had kernel 2.0.xx in my machine. A possible solution (that I never tried) would be not to call sfxload at boot time and call it by hand when you need to play midi. I don't remember hearing the noise if sfxload is called after the boot. Hmm... I don't think so. I do not load the sound driver at boot time and it makes this noise too. My sound driver is compiled as a kernel module that is loaded just when needed (I set the things up using those pre-install/post-install directives in /etc/modules-conf). Probably this noise is heard just at the first time the driver is loaded after turning on the system. No, I didn't any test at all, it is just a speculation. :-) Hey, could anyone explain (or point me to an explanation) what is the main diference between ALSA and OSS sound drivers? I'm not sure, therefore I won't try to explain it, but I think that the ALSA project will prevail... Anyway, I use the OSS (but I bet that the AWE64 works with ALSA driver too). Thanks, Paulo See you. -- Félix Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian is makeing errors when I have my CPU overcloked.
Interesting. I usually see more errors under Windows with overclocking than I do linux. FE: system I'm rebuilding right now, AMD K6/450 with 100MHz bus. If I clock to 105MHz windows dies with VMM loading explorer. Linux has yet to see a problem. On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Colin Watson wrote: G0DModE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) When I have installed my debian (2.1r2) and reboot the computer, system load Linux in half - error: Kernel panic blablaabla, inode table have corrupted... I need to say that in the first problem my CPU was overcloked to 366 (I now that tiz is not much ; ), so I thought that this might be fault of my mother board or cpu that debian is makeing errors. Then I start win`98 to find out, if my fathers files didn`t corrupted too, but win was working good. I don`t have any ideas what is wrong with my Debian. Linux makes more intensive use of the processor than Windows, in general, so it's likely to show up errors you might not encounter in Windows. Try clocking it back to its normal speed and see if that helps. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: AWE64 making loud noise on bootup
I'm using alsa 0.5.7 (from Woody) and an awe64 on one of my machines. The only problem I have like that is a pop when the computer powers on. I have had problems with OSS emulation under 2.2.15 and 2.2.16 though, not specific to that particular computer. I'd reccomend using the new alsa packages if you aren't already, and trying kernel 2.2.14 if you have any problems with OSS. On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Tom Lancaster wrote: IMHO, you're lucky to have that soundcard working at all. If it makes a loud noise during bootup, may I suggest cotton balls in the ears? ;-) No, really, congratulations on getting it to work. I gave up and just got a $20 ensonic. which works like a charm. Tom Maciej Kalisiak, Maciej Kalisiak wrote: Has anyone experienced their AWE64 soundcard making a loud clash/crash/explosion noise during bootup? Is there a fix? I'm using a mix of potato/woody, with a hand-rolled 2.2.16 kernel. The problem was also present with previous kernels I think. Help! It's going to give me a heart attach one of these mornings... :) -- Maciej Kalisiak | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mac [McQ] PGP-finger|www; (0x39AC36F5) 9F BB 9E 11 F0 1E 5D 20 0B 31 3D 37 47 D0 67 C7 GE/CS d- s++:+ a- C++(+++) ULAI++ P+++ L+++ E+++ W++ N- o? K? !w--- O- M- V-- PS PE+ Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 !X-- R+ tv-- b+ DI+ G+ e+++(*) h--- r+++ y? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: whiteboard software?
There is something called CVW which was reccomended to me some time ago. I've not actually used it, and I don't seem to have an URL for it any more. On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, John Foster wrote: Michael A. Miller wrote: Can anyone recommend whiteboard software (for networked conferencing) that will work well on a Debian system? How about in a mixed Debian/Mac/MS group? == I seem to remember reading somewhere that Amaya has that capability, though I have never tried it. Best wishes! -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
problems configureing apcupsd as slave. Help?
I'm trying to configure apcupsd for master/slave operation on a local network. i'm using the examples in /usr/doc(!)/apcupsd/examples/, and I notice that when I follow the examples for master and slave setup both machines pause for a few minutes, then error, usually with a message to the efect of being unable to release shared memory. Interestingly, after a couple stop/start cycles both machines are up and running. Foo?
Re: non-contiguous vs Fragmentation
Also, if you happen to have a file larger than approx. 8MB (at least with 2.0-compatible fs) it WILL be fragmented, because the inode tables and block groups are laid out on the fs at 8MB intervals. Not sure what it is on a fs made for the 2.2 kernel options. On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Joe Smith wrote: I know Linux uses the ext2 filesystem which is supposed to be anti-fragmenting. It fragments when it has to (as opposed to `always' like windows). during boot up, I see my hard drive is 9.7 % non - contiguous. I'm not sure what this means. I assume that 9.7% of the file space is fragmented. What then is the difference between non-contiguous and fragmentation? Don't know. How can my hard drive be 9.7 % non-contiguous if the ext2 filesystem is supposed to be anti-fragmenting? It's not _anti_ -fragmenting. If your disk is getting full, it may start to get fragmented. Someone have the URL to the good/bad secretaries analogy? Is there a way to make my hard drive contiguous again? I thought that there were no linux defragmenters. See the defrag package in section admin (I've never used it). -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: multiple monitors
I hear that we will have the support soon. It will be in Xfree86 4.0, which I hear we will have when it becomes 4.01. It is also heavily dependant on what vedio cards you have. I would reccomend checking on www.xfree86.org for information. If you're interested in having text consoles on both monitors check out the fbcon development list. Check out www.linux-fbdev.org for that, and keep in mind that there's a LOT more hardware dependancy right now and heavy development. I'd actually reccomend NOT attempting fbdev on two vedio cards (excepting if you have an old Hercules monochrome somewhere) unless you want to help out heavily with testing. Basically, wait about a month or whatever for xfree86 4.01 to be packaged. On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, simon c wrote: dear sir / madam, i am currently a microsoft windows 98 user (not by choice!). i am currently taking a-levels and when i go to university in september, it is most likely that i will be switching to debian linux. i was just wondering whether i can use 2 monitors to create one extended desktop. i know it is possible to do this in windows 98 - using windows' multiple monitors feature. i was just wondering whether debian has this feature too? i look forward to your reply. thank you. simon c. England, United Kingdom. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Driver for Lexmark Z11 Printer?
I hear the Z11 can supposedly handle Deskjet 500. I have a Dec Colorwriter 520ic which is hardware DJ 500 compatible, and I use magicfilter with the dj500-filter. You could try it to see if it works. If not, you might try contacting Lexmark and politely asking them to disclose the Z11's command interface. On Tue, 30 May 2000, Art Lemasters wrote: Has anyone written a linux driver for the Lexmark Z11 printer?
Re: Strange GPM behavior
I have this with XF86 4.0 (compiled locally) but not with 3.3.6 installed from Potato. I'm using a Logitech multiprotocol ps2 mouse in ps2 mode. On Sun, 28 May 2000, Craig McPherson wrote: Hmm, this is a new one. When GPM is running, the mouse will work in the console... but the mouse cursor in X freezes and won't move. When I stop GPM, mouse access is lost in the console, and the X mouse cursor comes back to life. I've never before seen GPM cause the mouse to stop working in X... what could cause this? The mouse is an old three-button Logitech-brand serial mouse. gpm.conf looks like this: device=/dev/ttyS0 responsiveness= repeat_type=ms3 type=ms append=-l \a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\ Thanks. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Does the VIA chipset work with Linux?
On Mon, 29 May 2000, Brian Stults wrote: Paul McHale wrote: Hi, I am interested in replacing my motherboard, but the current replacement available is based on the VIA chipset. Does anyone have any experience with this chipset? paul These are tricky to configure (Way too many jumpers IMO) and I recall seeing about an 80-90% failure rate when they came out a bit over a year ago. No idea how they are now, since I don't touch them anymore. VIA makes a lot of different chipsets. Personally, I have been having very good results with FIC VA-503+ motherboards which use the the VIA MVP3 chipset. I've used kernels from 2.0.36 to 2.2.15, all with no problems. -- Brian J. Stults Doctoral Candidate Department of Sociology University at Albany - SUNY Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 Web: www.albany.edu/~bs7452 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: scsi disk question: u2w vs. uw
Not a driver bug. Western Digital's technical support spake thusly. Foo. OTOH, a Tekram DC390U2W dual-channel would knock me back about $160. Kernel config suggests this should be an NCR 8xx-based controller, so I'm happy with that. On Wed, 24 May 2000, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I'm not myself a SCSI expert. I sought advice on what to buy (before I purchased my LVD drive) from the aic7xxx mailing list and was told specifically that I should buy an LVD drive to get more performance later on when if I get a new controller (perhaps with a new computer). I was assured that it would work, and it did. Perhaps ask that list if yours should work too? Might be a driver bug? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh the other hand, my WDE 18310 SCA LVD drive won't talk to my Adaptec controller, or (when I tested it at work with a dual-channel drive) it worked on the LVD connector but not on the ultrawide connector (using a SCA adapter. I have been told that in general LVD drives will not work on normal controllers unless designed for it (and would be specified) On Tue, 23 May 2000, Peter S Galbraith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't ultra2 usually LVD interface? If it is LVD you probably won't be able to use it on the narrow channel. Not true. My Seagate Barracuda ST39173LW is LVD and works fine on my 50 pin 2940U adapter (using to 68-to-50 pin adapter).
Re: linux usb modem support
Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ On Wed, 24 May 2000, David C. Ables wrote: I'm a debian newbie stuck with an annoying winmodem, so I'm about to buy an external modem for my system. (the diamond supraexpress 56e has been recommended to me.) my question is whether linux supports usb modems. the hardware-howto only mentions serial and internal modems, and I know usb is just making its way into the linux kernel. I'd also be interested in modem recommendations. I'd like eventually to set up my linux box as a ppp server when I eventually get a cablemodem. thanks, -david --- David C. Ables 3D Printing Lab Massachusetts Institute of Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: scsi disk question: u2w vs. uw
Isn't ultra2 usually LVD interface? If it is LVD you probably won't be able to use it on the narrow channel. If it isn't LVD, where do you find these drives? On Tue, 23 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2000, John Gould wrote: Sorry, but this is rubbish! The SCSI controller will have no effect on the disk rotational velocity. However this is not what the poster asked! If you put an Ultra 2 wide on a non wide channel the transfers will be eight bits at a time instead of 16, i.e. half the speed, but it will work fine. Some cards like the AHA2940UW have a wide and a narrow channel, if the Ultra wide disk is put on the UW channel and the Ultra disk is on the standard channel there will be no effect on performance. HTH JohnG On a somewhat related note.. I have a 2940UW. Can I use a 50 pin Ultra2 drive on the 50 pin Narrow channel? I know I wouldn't get U2 speeds, but the 50 pin narrow channel is all I have to use. 68 pin UW is too expensive and hard to find these days. I can find 50 pin Ultra2 18 gig drives for pretty cheap. Thanks. Ian -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: scsi disk question: u2w vs. uw
Oh the other hand, my WDE 18310 SCA LVD drive won't talk to my Adaptec controller, or (when I tested it at work with a dual-channel drive) it worked on the LVD connector but not on the ultrawide connector (using a SCA adapter. I have been told that in general LVD drives will not work on normal controllers unless designed for it (and would be specified) On Tue, 23 May 2000, Peter S Galbraith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't ultra2 usually LVD interface? If it is LVD you probably won't be able to use it on the narrow channel. Not true. My Seagate Barracuda ST39173LW is LVD and works fine on my 50 pin 2940U adapter (using to 68-to-50 pin adapter). (scsi0) Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter found at PCI 18/0 (scsi0) Narrow Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.1.11/3.2.4 Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices scsi : 2 hosts. Vendor: COMPAQPC Model: ST34371N Rev: 0472 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 (scsi0:0:0:0) Synchronous at 20.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 15. Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST39173LW Rev: 6246 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 [cut] -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/
How to configure xfree86 for a monochrome/greyscale monitor?
I have a fixed-frequency greyscale monitor which I was finally able to get to work after downloading the modelines from si87.com (very nice people) I have a stable X display and all. However, I am having a few problems. As this is a greyscale monitor (green signal) it only displays 256 out of 256 'colours', so using 16 or 24 bpp is pointless. However, the apps running seem to think they have an 8-bit palette out of 24-bits of possible colour, and I get netscape and xv switching contexts as they're wont to do at 8-bit colordepth. What I would like to know is how to make them stop. I think what would have to happen is to force all apps to use a single greyscale palette. I just haven't been able to find anything in the documentation for the X servers and the XF86Config manpage except for setting the 'visual' to 'grayscale' in XF86Config, which seems to have no effect at all. So what do I do?
Re: remapping M$ windows key to act as meta under console emacs (like X)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I had this set once before, but not in a while to be sure now.. I think you need to hack the console keymap to bind 'M$' to ALT. But there's a little thing on console about ALT--META mapping. I don't believe emacs will recognise META and ALT seperately on the console. Could be wrong by now, though. #include rants/console_mappings.text On Mon, 15 May 2000, Britton wrote: I notice that under X, emacs now uses the little window key as a meta, while doing something totally other with Alt. This is fine, but I like to use emacs from the console, and there Alt is still needed. I don't think it's a good idea to have emacs requiring different keystrokes depending on where is is run. Anyone know the best way to make things consistent? Should this perhaps be changed in the package? Britton Kerin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBOSIlLrwBUxk9hu41AQEsPQf/U7f4KJjTtGUz/AUYvsrfGVN+PM42XaV+ pEptIXDn/927LWwlHhhyc4FEGUH+GdqHSEDShq8uGolDO2TIn0Vw9jBUxhw/EcAU L4Ek/yHeDa6T8a+YU0YPNfOZAxNtZPbvhQD8KRt7Ob42KxXttyyFM4PEOF+f+6pr CV40114B+DBqfoHTKMP6AgD0zW9e4OjZa3ITB5WeXi5SjrfzXiTbUDfqNCajX8eD /KDrBibEiFVde+f0JoIBo7pu4TOEKvcQdj70ii32Z5AvJ6vjLACuDaQbWTT1nXKD lqLP1/42y/P3k0BD4e+/vnfuCBx7O+7Iy907TgMXxrjMMB6huZb53w== =L5tI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Subject: LS-120 install
It's a lot more tricky. Basically with a compliant x86 system the BIOS calls that access the FDC/FDD are translated into ATAPI calls so REAL-MODE accesses work. This allows bootloaders such as syslinux to transparantly boot floppy disks in one of these drives. I don't know how this happens in detail, but it is the observed behaviour. However, when the kernel takes control it looks specifically for an FDC and checks in the BIOS data area to learn what physical devices are registered there. So basically why disk change doesn't work with LS-120 drives is that the kernel recognises fd0 and fd1 only being legacy floppy devices. This might change as part of devfs, but I really don't understand the inner kernel or BIOS workings to be able to more than just guess. On Thu, 4 May 2000, Thomas Crulli wrote: is this just an issue of having an option in the install script that specifies what device to use for the floppies or are there more tricky issues? thomas --- Kenneth Scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was trying to install debian (frozen) on my laptop the other day but got stuckon the following. i have a LS-120 drive (for superdisks which is backwards compatible with 1.44MB disks) which i was using to boot the install disk. the images i used were the ones from the idepci subdirectory. the system started booting, the image on the floppy started booting as well until it gave the following message: Insert the root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press Enter. (or something like that) i tried pressing enter with the disk i had used to boot from since i believe that's all i needed (i was gonna do an harddrive install with base2_2.tgz on another linux partition). i even tried the driver disk just in case... nothing seemed to do it... Actually you need two floppy disk images (at least) the boot disk, and the root disk. The boot disk has the kernel, the root disk has the rest of the system (includes the installer). However (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the disks were written to run on a real floppy NOT off an ide-floppy (which the ls120 is) and would probably die at the point that you tried to insert the the root disk and hit return, it would never find the root disk since it was looking at /dev/fd0, not /dev/hdxx where the ls120 is! I have never managed to install of an ls120 so I still have a floppy in my computers.along with an ls120. I bet zip drives have the same problem. OTOH booting off a cd rom drive DOES work am i doing something wrong with the disks i'm using or is it a problem with the LS-120 support? thanks for any help, thomas = Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
APM was: Re: New kernel (2.2.15), now keyboard/machine freezes often
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 09:41:09AM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote: Do you have append apm=on in /etc/lilo.conf? some things changed about apm settings lately, IIRC. My workstation doesn't do power off on shutdown anymore without passing apm=power-off to the kernel on boot, for example. This is something that changed since 2.2.14. Where can I read about these options? I don't remember exactly, and browsing through the kernel documentation, I found that the apm=power-off should only apply to smp mobo's And here I thought APM was disabled completely on SMP kernels with more than one CPU. I so wish my dual socket 7 system would power itself off.
Re: Subject: LS-120 install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- There's currently no superfloppy support in boot-floppies. I'm doing some work on it, and I do have a working ls120 image you can use. There are a couple problems with it on my machine at least, and you do have to manually mount the disk. dbootstrap doesn't know how to see it yet. I'll have it up on http://ferret.phonewave.net/boot-floppies/ soon. I'm hoping I can work it into boot-floppies CVS in the next month or two, but at least it boots. Oh yeah, you might be able to make it work by zcatting the image to a zip disk's partition 4 in a pinch, but I haven't and won't try it. On Thu, 4 May 2000, Kenneth Scharf wrote: I was trying to install debian (frozen) on my laptop the other day but got stuckon the following. i have a LS-120 drive (for superdisks which is backwards compatible with 1.44MB disks) which i was using to boot the install disk. the images i used were the ones from the idepci subdirectory. the system started booting, the image on the floppy started booting as well until it gave the following message: Insert the root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press Enter. (or something like that) i tried pressing enter with the disk i had used to boot from since i believe that's all i needed (i was gonna do an harddrive install with base2_2.tgz on another linux partition). i even tried the driver disk just in case... nothing seemed to do it... Actually you need two floppy disk images (at least) the boot disk, and the root disk. The boot disk has the kernel, the root disk has the rest of the system (includes the installer). However (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the disks were written to run on a real floppy NOT off an ide-floppy (which the ls120 is) and would probably die at the point that you tried to insert the the root disk and hit return, it would never find the root disk since it was looking at /dev/fd0, not /dev/hdxx where the ls120 is! I have never managed to install of an ls120 so I still have a floppy in my computers.along with an ls120. I bet zip drives have the same problem. OTOH booting off a cd rom drive DOES work am i doing something wrong with the disks i'm using or is it a problem with the LS-120 support? thanks for any help, thomas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBORG+H7wBUxk9hu41AQEC8ggAsRCIgdBsVkmE9f3hQ/P4IZ79C02XiLfC xw0DwwS2CiHg3tKLl+fCxfOa6SKkZWGyhmjlqG8NqICpfDeWB51unQWltUiPeASn l8uwrmKRSI0wBEkEpwXPPNk7fswCxvwbyf89vYOYOkaxeVr9R5ecYr8N0W3hNyiH 2y5C/ItYLZCabOBXjHA9ZBMJhPNdjCFSuhT0aKSAE9H3HUw7hMfLcNST0J+JSjGi t0zPE7yH9z4PPNsP+Zd61930WrgyHi0UZl2PDS+AnmEwoYqWuwoWAn8wGeiuBbu6 X+8TMC8T7U3U+djNI8TW95QUUEUQ4G5oMAPWZna5kDCwyQlUvROlkA== =nWHV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Subject: LS-120 install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 4 May 2000, Thomas Crulli wrote: i'm actually just trying to get good ol' 1.44 floppies to work with the LS120 drive. (which have been working great until now that i'm trying to install debian with floppies). Won't work. The kernel ramdisk-from-floppy loader seems to be able to only use the primary FDC from what I can tell (without actually verifying code) You'll want to use an actual LS120 (or a 2.88MB floppy if you can still get one of those and IF they'll even work in the LS120 drive. I've only seen three of the things in my entire life) i almost got it to work by setting root=/dev/hdd but it then complained that it couldn't mount my root disk and that it couldn't find init (i think these were for different things i tried). i later tried to mount the root disk that i got from the idepci subdirectory of the frozen 1.44 disks but wouldn't work... are the root floppy images supposed to be ext2? i thought they were but the one i have doesn't seem to be... The root images are supposed to be FAT, I think in part so the predominant Intel OS can read them, but I know I'm missing most of the reasoning. thomas --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- There's currently no superfloppy support in boot-floppies. I'm doing some work on it, and I do have a working ls120 image you can use. There are a couple problems with it on my machine at least, and you do have to manually mount the disk. dbootstrap doesn't know how to see it yet. I'll have it up on http://ferret.phonewave.net/boot-floppies/ soon. I'm hoping I can work it into boot-floppies CVS in the next month or two, but at least it boots. Oh yeah, you might be able to make it work by zcatting the image to a zip disk's partition 4 in a pinch, but I haven't and won't try it. On Thu, 4 May 2000, Kenneth Scharf wrote: I was trying to install debian (frozen) on my laptop the other day but got stuckon the following. i have a LS-120 drive (for superdisks which is backwards compatible with 1.44MB disks) which i was using to boot the install disk. the images i used were the ones from the idepci subdirectory. the system started booting, the image on the floppy started booting as well until it gave the following message: Insert the root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press Enter. (or something like that) i tried pressing enter with the disk i had used to boot from since i believe that's all i needed (i was gonna do an harddrive install with base2_2.tgz on another linux partition). i even tried the driver disk just in case... nothing seemed to do it... Actually you need two floppy disk images (at least) the boot disk, and the root disk. The boot disk has the kernel, the root disk has the rest of the system (includes the installer). However (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the disks were written to run on a real floppy NOT off an ide-floppy (which the ls120 is) and would probably die at the point that you tried to insert the the root disk and hit return, it would never find the root disk since it was looking at /dev/fd0, not /dev/hdxx where the ls120 is! I have never managed to install of an ls120 so I still have a floppy in my computers.along with an ls120. I bet zip drives have the same problem. OTOH booting off a cd rom drive DOES work am i doing something wrong with the disks i'm using or is it a problem with the LS-120 support? thanks for any help, thomas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBORG+H7wBUxk9hu41AQEC8ggAsRCIgdBsVkmE9f3hQ/P4IZ79C02XiLfC xw0DwwS2CiHg3tKLl+fCxfOa6SKkZWGyhmjlqG8NqICpfDeWB51unQWltUiPeASn l8uwrmKRSI0wBEkEpwXPPNk7fswCxvwbyf89vYOYOkaxeVr9R5ecYr8N0W3hNyiH 2y5C/ItYLZCabOBXjHA9ZBMJhPNdjCFSuhT0aKSAE9H3HUw7hMfLcNST0J+JSjGi t0zPE7yH9z4PPNsP+Zd61930WrgyHi0UZl2PDS+AnmEwoYqWuwoWAn8wGeiuBbu6 X+8TMC8T7U3U+djNI8TW95QUUEUQ4G5oMAPWZna5kDCwyQlUvROlkA== =nWHV -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBORHf1LwBUxk9hu41AQEzZgf/TAikDguiJg03dBWbwyiGwPAElPaBodf5 Me2Vhywrdgz1qajkJGgUi3InHi02Ut65ts2d+vjxWu//i9j5ewvPXww2yiAh7lZj 4yju5ohN06JbZg06TpDtB45kgPQmZPgD7HkSo9bu5pQuO7rV5DYRTKgu1Mj+6B+M Mn5MtD1T2k2oere/T5ZUdDTxDCGcUT8EQIWOA3bl7gioj9sE8GxNvfVH/IkXmn8/ Ni2K1iZWLsEuQDFtUSQ8/W59p02dO10m+i6wlGEWzf79Aj/ux0VXNS4bzA86OVqM k8koqZoj9S4XYs3UTpopmETtGJtjEZtP+4DUE4BZJV1j3QEZWaB3vw== =wpFh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: OpenBSD Secure Shell
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote: It's already filed as a bug. [CTRL]-[C] ...# dpkg --pending --configure or something similar will fix everything (I think.) I saw this on i386 today when doing an update (reason why they say don't run frozen on critical systems. -- Hrmmph, the hardware is less stable) I was doing the update through 'apt-get' over SSH when the daemon wouldn't restart. Did the update again at the console and it was fine. -- Beiad Christian -Original Message- From: Jim McCloskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 12:57 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OpenBSD Secure Shell When I did an upgrade against `froozen' today, the post-install script for OpenBSD Secure Shell hung. PS reports it as a zombie process. The last message to the console was: Unpacking replacement ssh ... Setting up ssh (1.2.3-2) ... Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. The server was not started. (I had answered NO when asked if I wanted the server configured with the SUID bit set.) I was able to fix things (I think---haven't tried it much yet) by running dpkg --configure ssh , Jim McCloskey -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: usb keyboard + mouse and xfree86
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Kendall Shaw wrote: From: Ron Rademaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 2:53 AM USB is not supported in the 2.2.x kernels, however it is supported in the 2.3.x (I don't know in any version, but the newer ones support usb). You should try a 2.3 kernel. I must have some magic 2.2.14 kernel then, because my usb keyboard works. I'm not sure how to test my usb mouse outside of X. You might have BIOS legacy support turned on. This is a basic keyboard-only driver (in a few cases, keyboard+ps2 mouse), that interprets USB keyboard compliant with the USB boot protocol as a standard keyboard in the super IO controller so the PC keyboard controller can use it. There is also a backport of the 2.3 USB stack to 2.2.1x that has most things in it (anything for parallel ports isn't, because of some changes at the kernel level) Try doing a web search for linux usb FAQ and looking for the backport. My question is about X. Is there a way to have my usb keyboard at least recognized by X? Will upgrading my kernel help me to get my keyboard and mouse recognized by X? Kendall On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Kendall Shaw wrote: Do you think it's possible to use usb keyboard + mouse in xfree? The keyboard and mouse are unresponsive in XF86Config under 3.3.6. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: cable modem and LAN
Fairly simple: Make sure your internal network interface is on one of the private networks. I usually use 192.168.1.1 for the interface (192.168.1/24 is the network) Make your kernel with the ipmasq options, install ipmasq package, and restart with the new kernel. I'm assuming you're going to use 2.2.x kernel, 2.0.3x needs a couple patches, AFAIK. Or you can try doing everything by hand. But I found ipmasq did it better than I knew how at the time. :) And you might want nice things on your server for the network: squid, dhcp, DNS. And there is an ICQ helper patch for 2.2.1x ipmasq if you guys happen to need it. Just websearch. On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, matt garman wrote: Hello: I'm getting a cable modem installation this weekend (ATT @home). In order to not pay for multiple IPs, my three roommates and I are setting up a home network. I plan to run the cablemodem into my Linux box to use it as the server. I have two ethernet cards that are correctly recognized by Linux. Now I'm not sure what else I need to do to get IP sharing working. I know I need to recompile my kernel with the IP masquerading and some other options, but beyond that I'm not sure what software I need to setup (which config files to edit, etc). I got the home network mini howto, but it's assumes a redhat distribution, which apparently does configuration of these things a bit differently. Does anyone know of a step-by-step guide for setting up my network for Debian? Thanks, Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was just reading the interview with Korn in _Guitar_World_, and one of the guitarists said they don't play guitar solos because they've been done. Well, I guess that's true if you stick with what's been done. But you have to look beyond that; there's a lot more left to say on the guitar. -- Warren Haynes of Gov't Mule -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: XEmacs use 'Alt' as 'Meta'
I've been rather fighting the inconsistancies myself. I might get to fixing up console someday. Oh yeah, there's something called ICCCM which xemacs follows under X which among other things describes a method (IMO the Right Way) to consistantly read and interpret keypresses. Basically (going from memory) Apps like Enlightenment and gnome seem to assume that any key that generates mod1 modifier is ALT ICCCM apps like xemacs assume that the shift keys that generate ALT_L and ALT_R with the same modifier bit, said bit not shared with any other shift keys, is ALT. Also assumes that the shift keys that generate META_L and META_R with a dictinct modifier bit (doesn't matter exactly WHICH modifier bit) is META. I mean, you can map SHIFT_L and SHIFT_R to use mod1 and Eterm will suddenly decide that pressing SHIFT+R will be ALT-R. People in general don't seem to care, at least not the last time I brought up the subject. See the list archives and the bug system. Heh, maybe I'll make a proposal in my spare time, if I could get at least one official developer to back me. This is on my list of peeves. -- Beiad Ian Q. Dalton On 18 Mar 2000, Brian May wrote: Sean == Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sean On 16-Mar-2000 Joseph A. Martin wrote: Hello, I feel like this should be a simple thing to do, but I haven't been able to figure it out so far. I want XEmacs to my Left Alt key as the Meta key. It works like that when I am running XEmacs from the console. However, if I run XEmacs from XWindows ESC is my meta key and Left-Alt is not recognized by XEmacs. What do I need to change to have XEmacs in XWindows use Left-Alt as the Meta key? Sean if you have one, the windows key is bound as meta. Is it possible to use the windows key as meta in XEmacs for text mode sessions? I don't like this inconsistency... Some combinations work, others don't. Tested: text mode console: alt -- meta gnome-terminal:alt -- meta xterm: windows -- meta -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: gpm config for Logitech MouseMan+ PS/2
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: What is the correct gpm configuration for a Logitech MouseMan+ PS/2 three-button wheel mouse ? I keep getting the following message in my logs: _possibly_ the right config may be imps (IntelliMousePS/2) - but that's just an idea ... From experience in my shop: imps2 works with the retail Mman+ mice (the logitech logo on top) but not with the OEM Mman+ mice (the mouse drawing on top), and I think it's been posted before.
Re: PCI BIOS problems
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Jonathan Heaney wrote: Phil Brutsche wrote: : : : : If the ethernet card gets a 255 IRQ, then it's possible that you need to change the setting that looks something like PnP OS (that's how it appears on my computer) to None or No. Setting PnP OS to On or Yes only makes sense with Win95 and it's derivatives. You can also try the card in another PCI slot. This isn't the case Phil. PnP OS setting only affects ISA PnP cards, so this problem has nothing to do with that. Er, My Spacewalker boards (Intel 430TX, Award BIOS, K6 CPUs) assign PCI interrupts differently between PnP (yes|no). I seem to remember having PnP no (necessary to get an opti 931's IDE interface to be seen) also made EVERY device on the IDE bus use irq 11: video, USB, network, and SCSI. How it operates - if set to 'no', bios attempts to configure ISA PnP cards (because it assumes your OS can't). Bioses in general aren't very good at this, esp. with something like an Awe32 / 64 - a fairly common piece of hardware. If it's set to 'yes', bios thinks your OS is capable of handling ISA pnp cards, therefore it does nothing. As far as Linux goes, Debian like most dists uses isapnptools to configure ISA PnP cards for you which e.g. has a well documented solution for Awe problem, it is essentially a PnP OS as far as the PnP OS Installed? line in bioses goes. I know it isn't strictly PnP (yet) but bios only cares about configuration of ISA PnP cards. So for Linux w/ isapnptools correctly set up, PnP OS Installed should most definitely be Yes. When I set it to No, my Awe64 stops being seen by Linux, the bios can't configure it correctly and isapnptools won't work - so the card doesn't either. Jonathan
Re: SMP
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Sean Johnson wrote: Phil Brutsche wrote: it's one of two ways Linux can use Intel-based SMP systems (the other is IO-APIC used on PIIs on up, and maybe PPros). Seems to be on the PPros too Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.1 Virtual Wire compatibility mode. OEM ID: OEM0 Product ID: PROD APIC at: 0xFEE0 Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17 Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17 I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC0. Processors: 2 mapped APIC to e000 (fee0) mapped IOAPIC to d000 (fec0) ... the above being snipped from my dmesg I seem to remember seeing an I/O APIC on my dual P133 system, but I can't say for sure since it got sent back due to the glue chip for the secondady CPU going bad. Instant reboot whenever anything tried to initialise it.
Re: DVD
Last I was browsing creative.com (looking for tech info on an OEM sound card ALSA doesn't like) I blundered into a CVS repository of a driver for their Dxr2 decoder kit. It's at opensource.creative.com, and it looks fairly spiffy from what I know about DVD (nothing). On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, aphro wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, David Wiard wrote: dave I can get a DVD player pretty cheap. Is there any point in doing so when dave all my machines run non-Winblows? I don't keep up with the DVD camp, so dave could those of you that do enlighten me? xmovie, see www.freshmeat.net claims to be able to play DVDs. the source is available but only the binaries have the encryption code in it. i dont know if it uses decss(?) or not, if its not available lemme know i can send it to u. available in glibc2.1 only i believe. it crashed on both my debian 2.1 systems but ran ok on my mandrake system(dont have a dvd to test but the program loaded) i emailed the author about a binary for glibc2.0 but he hasnt replied yet(~3 weeks ago) btw this is a software-only decoder i believe, you need a powerful(really powerful) machine to run it on, say 450-500mhz or better. it is multithreaded so dual cpus really scream according to the www page. he tested it on a dual celeron 500 i think(i run dual celeron 466) nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 8:52am up 173 days, 21:06, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.02, 1.04 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ARGH! Frozen is back....
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Mike Werner wrote: On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 05:20:46PM -0700, Gary Hennigan wrote: Mike Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not just point apt at the *name* of the release that you want? deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free This way you don't have to worry about it. I assume this works fine now, with apt, because I've seen a couple of people recommend it, but there used to be a problem with this method because the Packages file referred to the the status release name, eg., stable, frozen, unstable, rather than the name. I know the Packages file still does this, eg., Package: 3dchess ... Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/games/3dchess_0.8.1-4.deb ^^ but perhaps apt-get can figure it out? Maybe the trouble I experienced came before the apt-get days? I've been following Potato as potato on my i386 development system and haven't seen problems with potato versus unstable/frozen. Except: I had to manually adjust symlinks on my local apt-cache for apt-move and apache to be happy. I THINK that little problem might be fixed with the current apt-move, though I haven't bothered to check yet. Have to do that before Potato goes stable, though. That I do not know, as I only recently switched to Debian (to be slightly more specific it was right after Slink became available on CD from the usual vendors - LinuxMall / CheapBytes as in). What I do know is the the two lines I quoted are the only active lines in my /etc/apt/sources.conf (IOW all other lines are comments) and it works just fine. When I first started with Debian, I did use dselect some. But since discovering apt I've not even touched dselect once. Definite kudos to the folks that developed / maintain apt. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | Where do you want to go today? ICQ# 12934898 | As far from Redmond as possible! '91 GS500E| Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.
Re: `unable to open console' afteinstall on Dell Optiplex GX1
I couldn't install slink at all on my Optiplex DGX. The machine locked completely during the ramdisk image load. I bootstrapped the CD installer from a DOS boot disk. Maybe the Potato boot floppies would work better for you? On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I'm trying to install slink on Dell Optiplex GX1. Strangely, during initial installation I was not able to install LILO or even a kernel on a floppy, getting failure messages for each. I created a boot floppy and unpacking resc1440.bin unto another floppy, copying `linux' (the kernel) to disk and then dd'ing it to the floppy again. Lastly, I rdev'ed the floppy to set the root partition as /dev/hdb2. This floopy boots okay until the end where I get the error `unable to open console' and then it hangs there. Any hints? Booting the rescue CD again, I see that /dev/console does exist on /dev/hdb2 (my initial guess). Thanks, -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: HELP: FTP through squid proxy wants to get ENTIRE area under /
Actually, the point was that when proxied, wget decends through the parents, and when not proxied it doesn't. I'm suspecting something to do with squid, but I'm not sure what I should look for, since I don't know HOW wget decides where to recurse. On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Junichi Uekawa wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:27:00 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] was crying out from somewhere about: HELP: FTP through squid proxy wants to get ENTIRE area under / You should try wget -r --no-parent ftp://. --- Junichi Uekawa, a.k.a. dancer a member of the Dept. of Knowledge Engineering and Computer Science Doshisha University. ... Trying to run Debian and trying to maintain it. ferret ferret It didn't do this to me with the previous set of images, but this go ferret around I'm getting stuff outside the tree I specify: ferret ferret # wget -r ftp://marcus.debian.net/pub/debian/disks-sparc/2000-02-04/ ferret ferret ferret ferret # du ferret ferret 912 ./marcus.debian.net/pub/dce-patches ferret 3 ./marcus.debian.net/pub/sxid/deb ferret 4 ./marcus.debian.net/pub/sxid/old ferret 18 ./marcus.debian.net/pub/sxid ferret 48580 ./marcus.debian.net/pub ferret 2 ./marcus.debian.net/bin ferret 2 ./marcus.debian.net/etc ferret 2 ./marcus.debian.net/lib ferret ferret I did move my proxy and modem to a different machine, but I copied ferret /etc/squid.conf right over and initialised it, so that shouldn't be it. ferret ferret Suggestions?
RE: Socket 7 question
There's a Dual-slot 1 board I've seen at work from Intel that has integrated everything, and I'm pretty sure the video is supported. This board has seperate video memory instead of shared, if I remember right. Er, speaking of integrated boards, what's a sound modem slot? I've seen them on Soltek boards. On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, John Krueger wrote: From personal experience with that particular board, I highly recommend spending a few extra dollars and purchase a different motherboard, sound and video card. The PC100 boards use the SiS5xx series chipset, with SiS530 video and a more or less generic sound codec. These boards are difficult to Again, I hold absolutely no reservation in recommending that you don't purchase this particular board. You will save some money with this board, but the money saved will not be worth the setup fun you will have. I've been search for a motherboard with integrated video, sound, and ethernet to use as a diskless workstations with Debian. Can anyone recommend a particular board? I'm also looking for small case/power-supply on the order of the netwinder size. Any ideas here? -- Jean Pierre -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Socket 7 question
On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Phil Brutsche wrote: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... I've been search for a motherboard with integrated video, sound, and ethernet to use as a diskless workstations with Debian. Can anyone recommend a particular board? Not right off hand - all the decent motherboards I know of don't have most of that stuff integrated. I'm also looking for small case/power-supply on the order of the netwinder size. Any ideas here? Are you aware of how small a netwinder is? There aren't any socket 7 motherboard/case combinations that are that size. Heh. I had one of DEC's example set-top boxes about a year ago. Nice little puppy with a bracket for some kind of IDE device, probably a zip or LS120. It was about the size of the box my last set of network cards came in. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
HELP: FTP through squid proxy wants to get ENTIRE area under /
It didn't do this to me with the previous set of images, but this go around I'm getting stuff outside the tree I specify: # wget -r ftp://marcus.debian.net/pub/debian/disks-sparc/2000-02-04/ # du 912 ./marcus.debian.net/pub/dce-patches 3 ./marcus.debian.net/pub/sxid/deb 4 ./marcus.debian.net/pub/sxid/old 18 ./marcus.debian.net/pub/sxid 48580 ./marcus.debian.net/pub 2 ./marcus.debian.net/bin 2 ./marcus.debian.net/etc 2 ./marcus.debian.net/lib I did move my proxy and modem to a different machine, but I copied /etc/squid.conf right over and initialised it, so that shouldn't be it. Suggestions? -- Ferret
Re: Someone must know sparc debain
I always used kernel-package to build my sparc kernels. No problems. Unfortunately I have an IPX, so it's rather slow on the build. I also had to blank out the hard drive (doing Potato boot floppy tests) and for some reason I can't get my NFSroot mounted. And I can't get the cross-compiler to compile. :/ But compiling on Sparc should be fine. On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Aaron Solochek wrote: This is a pain. I compiled 2.2.13, and the first time silo complained that there wasn't enough room when I tried to boot that image. So I built a new one with less bloat (although its still like 2.3meg I think) and now it says it can't find an execuatble portion of the ELF image, or somthing along those lines. What is necessary to do this correctly. Here is what I'm doing now. make menuconfig, make dep, make clean, make boot, copy /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/boot/vmlinux.o /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13, ln vmlinuz-2.2.13 /vmlinuz, silo, reboot Also, where are the config files for X? XF86config is a broken link, there is no XFsparcconfig or something like that. I want to adjust my resolution, color depth, font search order... Are these display options even changable on a sparc 5? I think I have 8mb of memory on the framebuffer card, so it seems decent. Anyways, I'm lost, is there a good source for this sort of info? The debian page seems less than complete. -Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: problem writing CDs
Did you change blank type? Could be software. Did you update cdrecord between it writing and it not writing? Could still be hardware. Mine was. :/ The cheap Memorex green/silver noname blanks flaked apart in my drive and shot the write laser. I sent it back for repair, and now it no longer recognises those blanks. ;P On 30 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to write CDs with cdrecord without problem; but now almost every time I try to write a CD it ends with a SCSI error: cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable error CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: F0 00 05 00 00 00 00 28 00 07 F3 17 2C 04 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x04 (current program area is empty) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (valid) cmd finished after 0.016s timeout 480s I haven't changed anything to the hardware; I am using potato on a Celeron 333; do you think it's a hardware error? thanks for helping Hubert -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: x11amp/xmms
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Philip Lehman wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Wakko Warner wrote: I just have one problem with xmms. I can't find the skin from x11amp which is what's keeping me from upgrading the one copy I have on my machine (I don't like the default skin and I've yet to find one I like other than the x11amp one). Does anyone happen have it or know anyone who has it? I'd love to get a copy. Hint: XMMS supports winamp 1.x and 2.x skins. There are serveral hundred skins available for download at www.winamp.com, I'm sure you'll find something that makes you upgrade ;) Can anyone verify if winamp skins work or not under non-i386 arches? Just curious.
Re: vt220 or higher and 8 bit terminal with latin-1
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Hans Ekbrand wrote: I have problems with this: Conex7.5 on the DOS-side of the null-modem cabel and getty 38400 vt220 in /etc/inittab The problem is that ascii characters in the 160-255 range is displayed alright, but I can't type them from the terminal(emulator). I don't think conex is the problem, but everything worked alright when I used Telix3.5 and 8 bit vt102 emulation. (I thought 8-bit emulation was implemented firstly with the vt220, but debian did 8 bit with vt102, conex only does 8-bit emulation in vt220 and higher). I'd rather not use Telix as it is very slow on my XT-laptop. Anyone got vt220 or higher working with 8-bit terminals? How do I set it up? Would you know if any of these terminal emulators could also handle UTF-8 or full Unicode for input and display? I'm considering hacking the console UTF-8 support (IF I can find the package again) to work over serial link and possibly switch between vt102/UTF-8/Unicode, and I'm hoping there's some prior art someone happens to know about.
gpm repeating Intellimouse protocol?
Has anyone gotten gpm to repeat in Intellimouse protocol for X? I'm trying to get my wheel mouse (logitech forst mouse+ serial) to work with wheel events alongside my USB generic 3-button. According to http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/wwwboard/messages/93.html Zephaniah E. Hull (GPM's maintainer) says that the gpm in Potato (which my machine is running) will repeat into ms3 protocol. Unfortunately, when I set up X to use protocol IntelliMouse with device /dev/gpmdata I get the classic `pointer stays in top left corner and acts jumpy' behaviour. X works with MouseSystems protocol even when gpm is (supposedly) repeating in ms3 protocol. (gpm -t ms3 -R ms3). gpm repeating in raw mode didn't seem to work with ANY X mouse protocol I tried. Looks like a bug somewhere, but is it that potato's gpm is supposed to repeat intellimouse but doesn't, or is it a bug in my setup?
Re: fdformat?
Your machine isn't a Sparc, is it? On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Wayne wrote: Hello, I'm trying to excute fdformat. No matter what I enter I get the following error message: floppy drive state now=13142098 last interrupt=13142098 last called handler=c0182f4c timeout_message=floppy starts: 881369470 f80369470 090369470 ' last results at 13101664 last redo_fd_request at 13101664 status=10 fdc_busy=1 DEVICE_INTR=c0181f50 fd_timer.function=c0181ebf cont=c0227970 CURRENT= command_status=-1 floppy: floppy timeout called ioctl(FDFMTTRK) I/O error ___ end of error message the command I entered was: fdformat /dev/fd0H1440 I should point out that I'm using REDHAT. The system I'm going to is Debian. I'm trying to copy some files off of my old system. TIA. Wayne- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Single quote keyboard chars
I had this happening back when I was running Hamm and Slink was a few months from release. At the time I had a spiffy black keyboard with a DIN5 (matching my machine) and has just purchased an offwhite `multimedia' keyboard. I found the black keyboard worked fine and the offwhite generated random spurious backquotes. Interestingly enough I haven't seen them for a number of years. I still have the mobo and CPU from that machine (though in a different case) and the same offwhite keyboard, which I'm using right now, actually. I'm also running a Belkin fourport CVM switch. I'm pretty sure it's mostly hardware-related, at least in my case. You might try excorcising the keyboard cable. ; (it might work just as well as anything else) On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Randy Edwards wrote: I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this problem with the latest potato. I get random, occasional single quote characters (`) which appear in what apps I happen to be using. This occurs on several different machines. The keyboards themselves are clone MS Natural and/or Dell keyboards. I work primarily in X, which is where I notice it. This phenomenon seems to happen with many different apps (everything from E-Term to Netscape). Has anyone else noticed something similar? And if so, any way to get rid of it? TIA. -- Regards,| Why would anyone want to run an operating . | system that is open source and is developed Randy | by hundreds of hackers worldwide? Find out ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | why at http://www.golgotha.net/why-linux/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ANN: initial sparc potato boot floppies ready for testing
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Ben Collins wrote: [dbootstrap display on serial console vs `linux' console. It already does. The standard dialog is through newt (I think). Depending on the TERM, it uses color and/or extended ansi to create dialog boxes and such. Being that you are from a dumb terminal, it chooses the least common denominator, which is simple text based dialogs. |# echo $TERM |linux |# Doesn't look like it knows I'm on a `dumb' terminal. [more stuff snipped] It might have been a permission problem. I noticed that the sun4* directories were empty save for `index.html' (I ran wget on the base directory) I'm getting those right now then trying the http fetch from my local server. Oookay. wget isn't properly getting.. More than likely it was because you caught me in the middle of unpacking the stuff :) *g* And I find that the `network' installer method can't resolv hostnames(!) |nf_http_fetchfile :: xia01.kachinatech.com:80 couldn't be |resolved, Host name lookup failure (errno=2). Funny thing is, I can shell out and resolve hostnames. |# ping debian.midco.net |pavlov.midco.net is alive! Odd...well the http method is still being developed, so I guess we will see how it goes. H. I can't try an NFSroot install because NFS doesn't want to mount, and I still don't know WTF is up with floppy support. Slink's dbootstrap can read the floppies I feed it, but I can't seem to read them after I boot the installed system. Do you know of a way I can mount ext2fs under NetBSD?
Re: No, irssi, I don't want a GNOME panel
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Colin Watson wrote: According to bug #53088, support for the GNOME panel was recently added to irssi (in potato). Now, I use a window manager which I believe is GNOME-aware (fvwm2), but I don't use the GNOME panel. I upgraded irssi Hmmm. gnome's pager applet says fvwm2 isn't gnome-aware here. tonight, and now when I start it it fires up the GNOME panel and fails to actually display anything in its own main window. You can see what I'm talking about at http://riva.ucam.org/~cjw44/irssi.jpg. I'm reluctant to report this immediately as a bug because my configuration might be broken in some way. The GNOME panel's pretty and all that, though, but I'd rather not have to use it just to use a GNOME IRC client. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who's had similar problems.
Possible date problem in nntpcache?
This just started happening today after a service restart: --- 501 yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] [distributions] --- which is aparantly returned after a `newnews' command from trn. Setting `NNTPSERVER' to my ISP's news server has no problem. A manual connection to port 119 reveals my ISP's server to use a four-digit year in the date field. Sure looks like a date problem on nntpcache's part, but I'm wondering why it chose now to start acting up.. I run on a slow dialup link, and I bring the proxy up and down usually several times each day to keep bandwidth. Could anyone shed some light on what might be going on here? -- Ferret no baka
Re: Problem with ncurses since 01/02/2000 apt-get dist-upgrade
I just had this problem a couple hours ago, actually, on my Potato box. I'm not sure what happened to break it (was working fine just a few days ago) but a purge of all *curses*-dev packages and then a reinstall of libncurses5-dev did the trick. Also let me remove a couple `legacy' packages. BTW, WTH does bash depend on the ncurses in `oldlibs'? On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, John Pearson wrote: On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 12:28:01AM -0500, Todd Suess wrote I recently did a apt-get dist-upgrade on Jan 2nd, which updated ncurses to version 5.0. I didn't notice any problems at first, but I went to build a custom version of Nethack and noticed that it failed to compile with curses errors. In examining the directorys, I found the following. During the update to curses5 all these links were changed in my /usr/include directory. lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Jan 2 20:54 curses.h - ../curses.h lrwxrwxrwx1 root root8 Jan 2 20:54 eti.h - ../eti.h lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jan 2 20:54 form.h - ../form.h lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jan 2 20:54 menu.h - ../menu.h lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 12 Jan 2 20:54 ncurses.h - ../ncurses.h lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 10 Jan 2 20:54 panel.h - ../panel.h lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jan 2 20:54 term.h - ../term.h lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 12 Jan 2 20:54 termcap.h - ../termcap.h lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Jan 2 20:54 unctrl.h - ../unctrl.h All of these are broken symlinks, and with a little furthur testing I have confirmed that no program that requires curses will now build sucessfully on my potato system. Has anyone else ran into this problem, and is there a suggested fix? With so many programs using curses now days, this seems to be a serious problem. Disclaimer: I'm running slink, and have never used the potato ncurses. In slink, /usr/include/ncurses is a symlink to '.'; if this is a real directory in the ncurses5 package and that package installs links to ../*.h in /usr/include/ncurses, you may get something like you describe. If you're feeling brave, try: # rm /usr/include/ncurses # dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/ncurses5-dev*.deb Good luck, John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: alt key in jed under X
Try using your `meta' key instead. That's the left window key if you have them. It turns out most X apps don't agree on metashift (meta, alt, hyper, super) behaviour. FI E uses (the key that sets mod_1) for ALT, while xterm uses (the key that sets mod_4).. if I recall correctly. and Lucid (X) emacs uses (the key(s) with a mod bit set and ALT keysym) for ALT and (the key(s) with a mod bit set and META keysym) for META. And under console, ALT and META mean the same thing. I had a discussion in the bugtraq with enlightenment's maintainer about the lack of consistancy. Probably only two things to do: 0) put up with it. 1) push for partial ICCCM compliance in policy Taken from xemacs: --- (2) (key-mapping/warning) Two distinct modifier keys (such as Meta and Hyper) cannot generate the same modifier bit, because Emacs won't be able to tell which modifier was actually held down when some other key is pressed. It won't be able to tell Meta-x and Hyper-x apart, for example. Change one of these keys to use some other modifier bit. If you intend for these keys to have the same behavior, then change them to have the same keysym as well as the same modifier bit. (3) (key-mapping/warning) The meanings of the modifier bits Mod1 through Mod5 are determined by the keysyms used to control those bits. Mod1 does NOT always mean Meta, although some non-ICCCM-compliant programs assume that. --- We probably also need more modifier bits. I wonder if xfree86 4 will have any differences. -- Ferret no baka On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, matt garman wrote: Hello: I use jed with emacs keybindings as my editor. Often, I need to use the Alt key, but it doesn't take when I'm in X. I know I can use the Esc key to get the same functionality, but I'd rather not (then I might as well use vi if I have to reach for the Esc key all the time :). The Alt key works as expected on the console. Thanks, MG -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] And through the window in the wall Come streaming in on sunlight wings A million bright ambassadors of morning. --Pink Floyd, Echoes -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
reccomendations for a multi-interface NIC?
I'm hoping someone can reccomend a good and hopefully fairly inexpensive 2-interface 10/100 ethernet NIC that plays nice with Linux. I've taken a look at one of Intel's boards (known to work with recent Tulip drivers but running about $300 at necx.com). I'm also looking at D-link-s fourport card, and trying to find out what else is out there? The card is destined for a medium-use server machine that needs a second interface but doesn't have a free PCI slot. Alternately, I could press my Sparc into use if I could find an sbus 10 or 10/100 NIC that will play nice. -- Ferret no baka
Re: Modem does not work
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote: Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:30:16 GMT From: Pedro Quaresma de Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 11:33:23 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, dyer wrote: [snip] I have compiled the 2.3.31 Kernel and now I have $ cat /proc/pci ... Communication controller: Rockwell International HCF 56k V90 FaxModem (rev 1). IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=64. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe900 [0xe900]. I/O at 0xe800 [0xe807]. ... This means (Rockwell International HCF) that I have bought another Winmodem ??? :( Basically. I'm not sure what all the codes mean, but in general Rockwell chipset==winmodem. (going from memory here) I think there are two types of PCI winmodems - those that run the DSP code in a vxd under windows, and those that upload a firmware image into memory on the modem itself. The second could easily be supported by a kernel-mode or user-mode firmware uploader *if* the chipset vendor and/or modem vendor would release protocol info and a firmware image. Likely the protocol info would be in the chipset's specification. And now I make a semi-educated guess: HSP==Host Signal Processor (classical winmodem) HCF==Host-Controlled Firmware (hardware modem that requires a firmware upload) Last I looked, I don't think either of these are defined or explained on Grommit's winmodem page. Could someone correct or verify what I just said? -- Ferret no baka
Re: Using 3com modem Independent Mode (without Windows)
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Alberto Bigazzi wrote: Thanks everybody for your answers. The end of it is that now I know that there exist at least two programs, KMsgModem and mepl (see also www.freshmeat.net), and some hack to get my 3Com modem use Independent mode under Linux. Being the 'technical' issue now solved, I've been left with some doubts about their (3Com) policy, and about their view of customer satisfaction. What follow are just some comments that might be inappropriate to post in this 'technical' mailing list. I apologise to you if that would be the case. Or just skip them. Talked with the two major computer shops in town this week. Both of them stopped carrying 3com/USR products due to the support issues, and one (the one I purchased my Sportster from secondhand) appears to have a policy of reccomending another brand of modem if a customer asks about ordering a USR modem. Oh, and I recently was able to `borrow' a windows 98 machine. I pointed 3com's update wizzard at my Linux machine through a null-modem cable and scripted a modem emulator together that allowed me to download a windows executable containing the firmware update. Unfortunately I had been getting serial overruns during the `modem update' and have not been able to obtain an uncorrupted image file. BTW, minicom and expect work great on it, and I know it is possible (in fact easy) to update the modem from any OS, provided 3com would admit to it and offer the firmware image for download. The only reason I can think of for them not to offer the image for download under a `free' or UNIX OS is that they SELL a firmware upgrade for their 33.6 modems that bring them up to v.90, and I'd bet my Sparc that it's the exact same binary image as the one I need, or close enough not to matter. I'm beginning to grow an idea, assuming that enough of us who have actually considered or use a 3com/USR product write a letter to the company asking for support and explaining why they would lose our business if they don't provide the support. If we want to do so, probably we should develop a boilerplate letter to use that would be politely and firmly worded. I also suggest if we're going to do something like this we should take it off the list, maybe set up a temporary list for the traffic or something. Perhaps then they'll listen. -- Ferret no baka PS: I used to reccomend USR to everyone who asked me. AFAICT they went downhill only after their acquisition by 3com. == JUST SOME COMMENTS About my complaint that their 3Com 56K Message Modem was NOT a windows-specific modem, and I expected some software under Linux to be around, here is how they answered to me: On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alberto, Please read the minimum requirements in the box of the modem. It doesn't speak about linux or any Unix on there, only windows. I'm afraid that there are no scripts available for Linux that use the ^^^ Independant mode capabilities. Which was not true, indeed. About the minimum requirements then, isn't it a bit like a computer manufacturer said: look, this Pentium computer is good for Windows only? I'm not an expert, but isn't a modem in the end just a piece of hardware that should be made to be programmed? Linux and Unix aren't this odd OSs that it's so difficult for a big company, as they are, to provide proper software for other OSs in the package or at least point you to some existing software. Why don't they do that? Shouldn't they be just happy if more people could happily purchase their products? I found interesting what some of you wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's probably something they want to keep hidden to boost use of that other OS, I'm guessing. I recently had a run-through with them regarding a firmware update for my USR Sportster over a non-intel machine. On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Emile Schwarz wrote: I too have a 3Com USR 56K Message Plus Modem WITHOUT Windows. I too am still waiting for answers... But the specific software communication (voice/fax) sold in what they call a MacPak (350 Francs vat included) was out of date at the time I buy it (but I don't know that when I buy it). Should the conclusion be like Emile's: So, I have to make my consumer work: the next Modem I have to buy will not be a 3Com, I check the software versions given in the box before I buy anything, etc... It's a shame... or maybe like ferret's: Perhaps if enough people request support from 3com they'll start offering support. : What do you think? Alberto. -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ Alberto Bigazzi, PhD. Dept. of Mathematics, Politecnico di Milano, -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ http://www1.mate.polimi.it/~albbig -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/
How do I correctly set up an ntp server?
I've been wrestling with this one for a while now. I was using xntp3 from slink, but I've compiled ntp from potato and used that. The machine is a server for a small network on a single dialup line. My problem is that my ntp server is at stratum 16, precision -17, and my workstations refuse to syncronise to it. i've looked over the ntp documentation, and the only option listed having to do with stratum only works with hardware clocks on the `127.127.x.x' pseudo-addresses ntp uses. Oh, and it was working for a while at first, then mysteriously stopped working, without (AFAICT) my changing anything on either client or server. -- Ferret no baka
Re: Using 3com modem Independent Mode (without Windows)
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Alberto Bigazzi wrote: Hi everybody. I've got a 3Com USR 56K Message Modem. This modem is capable of receiving fax and voice messages WHEN YOUR PC IS OFF (Independent Mode). Very nice feature! ( makes the modem fairly expensive, too). BUT === I can't use it with my Debian (hamm) ! == The 3com package includes a Windows software (Winphone) to deal with the Independent mode. But it does not include any Linux script for enabling that mode. I wrote to them and asked for a Linux script. They told me they haven't got such a thing...! I complained to them and I'm still waiting for an answer. Note that the modem is NOT one of those windows-specific modems. I use it and works fine for connecting to my ISP. Now, how is it possible that it there exist something that Windows can handle and Linux cannot ??! 1) Has anybody a solution to this? 2) What information do I need about the Independent mode in order to write down a script myself and make the modem work? Would that be possible, anyway? (how?) It's probably something they want to keep hidden to boost use of that other OS, I'm guessing. I recently had a run-through with them regarding a firmware update for my USR Sportster over a non-intel machine. My suggestions: Ask for a telephone number and call tech support. I ended up repeating myself in email because each email was answered by a different support droid, only one of which seemed to have any intelligence. One of them suggested I install Windows 98 on my Sparc IPX. ; I spoke to a droid on the phone who was actually helpful, aparantly had called the hardware people to find out if they could do anything. I'm still stuck on the so-called `free' firmware upgrade but at least the guy was nice about it. Perhaps if enough people request support from 3com they'll start offering support. : If you have access to a Wintel anywhere, you can connect it to your machine with a null-modem cable, run minicom (and expect) on the Linux side and set up the Wintel side so it thinks the null-modem is your modem. I had successfully done this with my USR and their Windows-based software (borrowed a friend's computer) and learned the undocumented AT codes for flashing the Sportster. Oh, and aparantly you can change the modem's internal serial number too. rant What's up with these people, anyway? They give you explicit instructions to use their modem on your Sparc, then turn around and say you Ican't/I have your free upgrade unless you purchase from Redmond? Couldn't that be considered breach of contract? /rant Hope this helps -- Ferret no baka
Re: Alsa and 2.2.13
On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Marshal Wong wrote: Did you try using alsa-source to compile a custom kernel module? I did this and couldn't get the modules to initialise, though the precompiled modules worked on the custom kernel. The build scripts in the alsa-source package for kernel-package also seemed to have a few problems finding the kernel source directory. Basically: Custom-compiled ALSA modules failed loading Pre-packaged ALSA modules succeeded on the custom kernel Marshal From: Mark Blunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Alsa and 2.2.13 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:15:13 -0600 (CST) I'm trying to recompile the 2.2.13 kernel with alsa. My custom kernel conflicts with alsa-modules-2.2.13, and I've tried the kernel-image-2.2.13_2.2.13-2.deb, but it also conflicts, ( 2.2.13-1). Is an old version of 2.2.13 available, or better yet, what do I need to do to be able to compile a kernel package that doesn't conflict with alsa modules?
Re: ntpdate[28516]: no server suitable for synchronization found
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Darxus wrote: ntp hasn't seemed to work for me for a while. I figured maybe all the ntp servers I'd set it to use nolonger ran the ntp server or something. But I just pulled 99 servers off of a list at http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/ (1st relavant hit on ntp on www.google.com). Out of all of those 99 servers, ntpdate did not find *one* that was acceptable ? I'm guessing the fact that ntpd doesn't seem to be doing any synchronizing is probably related. I get this when my internet connection is saturated. :/
Re: Modem does not work
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, dyer wrote: I have bought (two day ago) a modem, it says (in the windows software) that it is a Motorols SM56 PCI, Speakerphone Modem and it is on COM4. That says it all. Speakerphone Modem = Winmodem. Take it back and get a real modem. -- Now I have an Supra 2260 PCI Modem Enumerator/Supra Max 56i Voice PCI (dual personality!?), but no luck ... :( It is an internal PCI modem, Windows says that it is on COM3, IRQ10, so it should be in /dev/ttyS3, but I only have two serial connections working, I think you bought another winmodem. To expand on the last response, I would go by the _general_ rule: PCI Modem = Winmodem PCI modem with the string `HCF' in the description under Windows = Winmodem PCI modem listed as `comm controller' in any BIOS verbosity might be a real modem. Currently, AFAIK, PCI serial support is in the unstable 2.3.x kernels, but there is a backport for a couple devices in 2.0.38 Real Modem = External Modem Not if it's a USR Sportster. While 3com/USR supports installing their Sportster modems on UNIX systems and give step-by-step configuration for Sparcstations, they only support using them under Windows 9x or MacOS. They work pretty well, but they're a pain to upgrade if you need new firmware. Now I'm sure you can get some PCI's to work, but I'm just betting you're tired of going to the store. ;-) Take a look at the hardware compatability docs.
Linux Advocacy (dealing with 3com) (was: Re: Macromedia products for linux)
I'm dealing with much the same thing with 3com right now. I'm attempting to flash upgrade one of their 56k Sportster modems without having to go out and purchase a license for Windows 98. Unfortunately, I've gotten three different support people in their support department for four different email replys. Every single person replying to me suggested I connect the modem to a `PC running Windows 95 or 98' after being informed that I do not have access to such a machine. In my last email to 3com's support I asked to be connected with one specific person in their company who would have the authority to be helpful to Linux/UNIX users. Also, I stated that while their company might not be able to offer the same level of hand-holding ^Wautomated support to the Linux community than they to the MacOS and Windows communities, the Linux community would in general be more than happy to do their own support provided 3com met us halfway and offered full support for their own products regardless of the end-user's platform of choice. And yes, I did manage to sound a little bit angry (deliberately, and I hope I managed to stay politely angry) when I indicated that any practice of theirs which requires use or purchase of any specific OS would be considered unacceptable. That said, does anyone on this list happen to have any contacts inside 3com who might be helpful in getting the flash upgrade thing going? On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Tom Allard wrote: This is an email I recieved from macromedia after I asked them to support our OS. I think maybe if enough people show interest maybe we'll get flash for linux. Fire off and email to the address in the email please. I think you should read the Linux Advocacy mini-HOWTO. http://www.datasync.com/~rogerspl/Advocacy-HOWTO.html In the paragraph above, you are well-written seem very capable of a reasoned plea, but your message to macromedia sounds like a childish flame: Look man, I am a BIG fan for the whole vestored graphice thing. I think it rocks. Infact some of my favorite sites use vectored graphics made with and for your products. What really irks me though, is your lack of support for platforms other than that of Billy's Garbage. I am a Linux user and as such get the shaft when it comes to visiting sites made with Flash or whatever. I think it sucks and I think it's pretty sad that you don't support us. Just because we ar emainly an open source community doesn't mean we wouldn't pay for your software. Granted there isn't as many of us but sheesh, it's depressing that I'm cut off from alot of sites cuz I use Linux. For example, the HOWTO urges advocates to refer to another product by it's proper name. It's all fine-and-good on lists like this to talk about WinBlows and such, but telling someone outside the community that you don't like Billy's Garbage won't win you any converts. Think of it from *their* point-of-view: they've made millions writing software that works on Windows, so it's not such garbage to them... Read your message back to yourself, but change Linux to Windows, change Billy's Garbage to Open Source Crap and change the product to something not available in Windows. Think about how reading that would make you feel. Does it make you really want to work with this person and improve your product, or does it just make you defensive about your own product and even a little fearful of the sender?
exim and procmail, and how to stop spammers?
I'd like to make exim use procmail to deliver incoming messages by default, using the ~/.procmailrc file. I haven't been able to make much headway through the documentation, however. I know sendmail will do this by default, but sendmail seems to be (with default configurations) more open to use by spammers. (I just got a spam from localhost relayed TO me aparantly from the spammer's ISP) and I haven't made much headway with sendmail, even with having ORA's sendmail book. This is what I got out of my syslog. --- Dec 2 19:12:28 playdough sendmail[29527]: TAA29527: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1252, class=0, pri=31252, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=SMTP, relay=ip210.albany5.ga.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.3.210] Dec 2 19:12:28 playdough sendmail[29530]: TAA29527: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:09, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent --- And here's the message headers --- Received: from 4kudos2all.com (ip210.albany5.ga.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.3.210]) by playdough.mentasm.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id TAA29527 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:12:19 -0800 Subject: Real Time CC Processing...$39.95/mo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:54:07 -0500 --- Could someone help me get my MTA (whichever one) working more to what I'm wanting? -- Ferret no baka
How to auto-apply kernel patches
I would have thought this were explained better.. I have kernel-package installed and have kernel source for 2.2.13 and the kerneli package installed. The documentation for kernel-package states that make-kpkg can apply the patches during build, then remove them during clean. What I can't figure out is how I use kernel-package to configure the kernel WITH the patches applied. is it meant to do that? -- Ferret no baka
Re: CD-Writer recomendation!
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Cyrus Patel wrote: Hey Manuel, I've got a Panasonic (Matshita) 8x read/4x write scsi burner and so far it has worked perfectly for me. cdrecord identified it immeadiately and it hooked up to my existing scsi card without any problems. I've had just one problem with the Panasonic OEM burners. Unless you have a retail receipt so you know the reseller (And mine was donated to me) you can end up going though hoops trying to get the right customer support department. The write laser on my drive went out two months ago, and I spent almost a week telephoning and being forwarded to different companies. And all but the actual reseller (Compro) informed me that my warranty was 15 months (And it was month 15 then) but the retail warranty was 12 months with Compro, the only people who would honor the warranty. Manuel Arenaz Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again, A friend of mine is interested in buying a CD-Writer. He asked me to recomend a model to him, but I have no idea. Can anyone help me to go through this situation? Thanks in advance, Manuel Arenaz
modem firmware updating
I've been trying to contact someone at 3com who will actually admit to the fact that their external serial modems even WORK with Linux.. I'm trying to update my external x2 to v.90. I was wondering if anyone on this list has done a firmware update on a modem with a linux system, what companies are nicest about it (3com says they 'dont support linux', and I asked if they supported their own products. 'no. we support windows and mac' was about all the answer I've gotten so far), etc. I seem to remember someone else posting about updating a USR modem, but I can't seem to find a reference in the list archives. -- Ferret no baka
Re: Debian SPARC
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:42:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running a hybrid slink/potato system on a Sparc IPX right now. yes, slink is in general less stable/less working than potato. OTOH, potato and 2.2.13 will not run at all on my system, probably because I use a serial console. Since this is a problem we need to address before release, can you be specific to the problems you are having? This is a console log of a normal 2.2.13 boot of my IPX, kernel compiled on the IPX, console on ttya, before I wiped the drive (AM Nov 17) and reinstalled slink. Potato at that time was not letting me log in on console (PM Nov 16) saying something about a 'function not implimented' on /dev/ttyS0 BTW, kernel 2.2.13 compiled with slink (about noon, Nov 17) booted about 10-20 minutes ago with the same error. (except this time I purged setserial) 2.2.13 took about 4-5 hours to build. I'm booting with 2.0.35 (from the slink install disks) and I'm currently compiling 2.0.35 with the sparc patches (from the slink packages) and will see if that one likes me. I'm running slink with potato's apt, parts of debhelper that aren't in sparc's slink copied from my i386 slink's debhelper, and local-compiled apt-move (slow 21.6k modem connection, so I'm making up a local mirror for later reinstalls) I'd hoped to use the box as a dialup gateway, but with all this (and having learned just how badly the serial ports on it suck) I'll offer it up to test stuff. -- Ferret no baka Power-Up State Test Context Register Bit Test Context Register Addressing Test Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0001 Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0002 Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0003 Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0004 Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0005 Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0006 Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0007 Page Map RAM MATS Pattern Test Limit 0 Register Test Counter Interrupt Level 10 Test Limit 1 Register Test Counter Interrupt Level 14 Test WARNING: Unable to determine keyboard type Synchronous Error Reg Test Synchronous Error Virtual Address Reg Test Asynchronous Error Reg Test Asynchronous Error Virtual Address Reg Test Asynchronous Error Data Reg1 Test Asynchronous Error Data Reg2 Test System Enable Register Bit Test Cache Data RAM MATS Pattern Test Cache Tag RAM MATS Pattern Test PTE Access Bit Test PTE Modify Bit Test PTE Write-Protect Bit Test PTE Write-Invalid Bit Test PTE Read-Invalid Bit Test PTE Type 2 Space Bit Test PTE Type 3 Space Bit Test Synchronous Timeout Test Asynchronous Timeout Test 16 MegaBytes Found in Address Range 0x to 0x00ff 4 MegaBytes Found in Address Range 0x0100 to 0x01ff DRAM Word MATS Pattern Test (0x00fe - 0x0100) Parity/Memory Control Registers Bit Test 33-bit SIMM Parity Test FAILURE: No Trap Taken, Exp Trap Type = 0009 Setting Segment Map Setting RAM Parity Mode Mode set to 33-bit Sizing Memory Mapping ROM Mapping RAM Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 0,0 dma esp sd st le Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 1,0 Nothing there Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 2,0 Nothing there Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 3,0 cgsix Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 0,0 dma esp sd st le Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 1,0 Nothing there Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 2,0 Nothing there Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 3,0 cgsix SPARCstation IPX, No Keyboard ROM Rev. 2.6, 20 MB memory installed, Serial #2165154. Ethernet address 8:0:20:c:dc:80, Host ID: 572109a2. Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Replace CPU Board Testing 20 megs of memory 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 SBus slot 0 le esp dma SBus slot 1 SBus slot 2 SBus slot 3 cgsix Initializing 4 megs of memory at addr 100 3 2 1 0 Initializing 16 megs of memory at addr 0 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 Type b (boot), c (continue), or n (new command mode) n Type help for more information ok boot disk Boot device: /sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED],80/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 File and args: SILO boot: Uncompressing image
Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:48:55PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to set up a cross-compiler on my Lintel (AMD 266) to compile packages for my Sparc IPX. I'd preferably like to package the cross-compiler so I can esaily remove it if I no longer need it. The only cross-compiler in the slink packages list is for m68k. What do I need to do to set one up? The last cross-compiler I built (for kernel compiles) was using the m68k cross-compiler package. I just changed the m68k references to sparc, and ran dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot (change all of the m68k references in debian/ to sparc). I just did a 'debian/rules binary' in 'gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1' after changing 'm68k' to 'sparc', and I get a build error. Looks like the gcc buildstrap isn't working. ./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC-O2 -I./include -I. -I. \ -I./config -g0 \ -finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions -fno-exceptions \ -c ./crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN -o crtbegin.o as: option `-s' is ambiguous make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1' make: *** [build] Error 2 I get the exact same error if I use dpkg-buildpackage. I don't know enough about building gcc to know what's wrong. And this is the source package from ftp.ca.debian.org (us.debian.org not responding to me through lynx for some reason) I also found out I need the binutils-m68k-linux package, and that's being downloaded as I type.. -- Ferret no baka
Re: Debian SPARC
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since this is a problem we need to address before release, can you be specific to the problems you are having? This is a console log of a normal 2.2.13 boot of my IPX, kernel compiled on the IPX, console on ttya, before I wiped the drive (AM Nov 17) and reinstalled slink. Potato at that time was not letting me log in on console (PM Nov 16) saying something about a 'function not implimented' on /dev/ttyS0 Actually it says something about function not implemented on /dev/cua0, see: tty_io.c: process 1 (swapper) used obsolete /dev/cua0 - update software to use /dev/ttyS0 link /dev/console to /dev/ttyS0 and see if it helps. Ah, yeah /dev/console - /dev/cua0 (I'll fix that right up) And I'll try 2.2.13 with it. And btw what is that message about Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Replace CPU Board ? :) I'm using 32-bit memory in a 33-bit system. :/ Took me a while to figure it out. The depmod problem is known, it will soon be fixed. Heard about that. One of the many reasons I reinstalled. Besides, it's practice. : -- Ferret no baka
Re: Debian SPARC
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since this is a problem we need to address before release, can you be specific to the problems you are having? This is a console log of a normal 2.2.13 boot of my IPX, kernel compiled on the IPX, console on ttya, before I wiped the drive (AM Nov 17) and reinstalled slink. Potato at that time was not letting me log in on console (PM Nov 16) saying something about a 'function not implimented' on /dev/ttyS0 Actually it says something about function not implemented on /dev/cua0, see: tty_io.c: process 1 (swapper) used obsolete /dev/cua0 - update software to use /dev/ttyS0 link /dev/console to /dev/ttyS0 and see if it helps. Ah, yeah /dev/console - /dev/cua0 (I'll fix that right up) And I'll try 2.2.13 with it. Fixed /dev/console and booted 2.2.13: Same type of problem: Cleaning: /tmp /var/lock /var/run. Initializing random number generator... done. Recovering nvi editor sessions... done. zs_open ttyS0, tty overwrite. zs_open ttyS0, tty overwrite. zs_open ttyS0, tty overwrite. zs_open ttyS0, tty overwrite. .. And then the kernel panic after a while. I disabled nviboot: still does it. It looks like it's doing it right when it's in runlevel 'S', right before it goes runlevel 2. I'll take a closer look at it in the morning. And btw what is that message about Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Replace CPU Board ? :) I'm using 32-bit memory in a 33-bit system. :/ Took me a while to figure it out. The depmod problem is known, it will soon be fixed. Heard about that. One of the many reasons I reinstalled. Besides, it's practice. :
Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Erik Mouw wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:52:42 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:48:55PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to set up a cross-compiler on my Lintel (AMD 266) to compile packages for my Sparc IPX. I'd preferably like to package the cross-compiler so I can esaily remove it if I no longer need it. The only cross-compiler in the slink packages list is for m68k. What do I need to do to set one up? The last cross-compiler I built (for kernel compiles) was using the m68k cross-compiler package. I just changed the m68k references to sparc, and ran dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot (change all of the m68k references in debian/ to sparc). I just did a 'debian/rules binary' in 'gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1' after changing 'm68k' to 'sparc', and I get a build error. Looks like the gcc buildstrap isn't working. make bootstrap doesn't work for cross compilers, have a look at the cross gcc FAQ: http://www.objsw.com/CrossGCC/ . How was the package suppsed to build itself then, by hand? *g* ./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC-O2 -I./include -I. -I. \ -I./config -g0 \ -finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions -fno-exceptions \ -c ./crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN -o crtbegin.o as: option `-s' is ambiguous make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1' make: *** [build] Error 2 I get the exact same error if I use dpkg-buildpackage. I don't know enough about building gcc to know what's wrong. And this is the source package from ftp.ca.debian.org (us.debian.org not responding to me through lynx for some reason) Looks like you're using the native binutils instead of cross binutils. I also found out I need the binutils-m68k-linux package, and that's being downloaded as I type.. I can't get the cross' binutils-sparc (package hacked from binutils-m68k) to build. dpkg-gencontrol -Pdebian/tmp/binutils -pbinutils-sparc-linux dpkg-gencontrol: error: source package has two conflicting values - binutils-sparc-linux and binutils-m68k-linux make: *** [binary-arch] Error 29 I edited all the references in debian/* from m68k' to sparc', and I don't know enough about the package to even guess what else might need to be tweaked. You also need libc and kernel header files for the target system. The kernel has to be configured for the target system, but that can be done on the build host. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/
Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 02:38:26PM +0100, Erik Mouw wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:52:42 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC-O2 -I./include -I. -I. \
-I./config -g0 \
-finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions -fno-exceptions \
-c ./crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN -o crtbegin.o
as: option `-s' is ambiguous
make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1'
make: *** [build] Error 2
I get the exact same error if I use dpkg-buildpackage. I don't know enough
about building gcc to know what's wrong. And this is the source package
from ftp.ca.debian.org (us.debian.org not responding to me through lynx
for some reason)
Looks like you're using the native binutils instead of cross binutils.
Installing binutils-multiarch and compiling a native gas handles this.
MM. binutils-multiarch and dpkg-cross are in slink for Sparc, but are
only in potato for i386. Time to compile, most likely.
I'll try this stuff out and then get back to the lists if I have any
further problems.
But let me make sure I have this one right. I need to compile an
i386-binary gas that will compile for sparc?
I also found out I need the binutils-m68k-linux package, and that's being
downloaded as I type..
You also need libc and kernel header files for the target system. The
kernel has to be configured for the target system, but that can be done on
the build host.
Install dpkg-cross and convert the native sparc libc6 and libc6-dev
packages. This will install them into /usr/sparc-linux/{include,lib} for
the cross-compile.
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Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 02:38:26PM +0100, Erik Mouw wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:52:42 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC-O2 -I./include -I. -I. \
-I./config -g0 \
-finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions -fno-exceptions \
-c ./crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN -o crtbegin.o
as: option `-s' is ambiguous
make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1'
make: *** [build] Error 2
I get the exact same error if I use dpkg-buildpackage. I don't know enough
about building gcc to know what's wrong. And this is the source package
from ftp.ca.debian.org (us.debian.org not responding to me through lynx
for some reason)
Looks like you're using the native binutils instead of cross binutils.
Installing binutils-multiarch and compiling a native gas handles this.
I also found out I need the binutils-m68k-linux package, and that's being
downloaded as I type..
You also need libc and kernel header files for the target system. The
kernel has to be configured for the target system, but that can be done on
the build host.
Install dpkg-cross and convert the native sparc libc6 and libc6-dev
packages. This will install them into /usr/sparc-linux/{include,lib} for
the cross-compile.
Installed dpkg-cross (isn't listed in the FTP site but a package search
brought it up. And the FTP archive doesn't have a source package)
:# dpkg-cross --install sysvinit_2.76-3.deb libc6_2.0.105-2.deb \
dpkg_1.4.0.34.deb mount_2.9g-6.deb ldso_1.9.10-1.deb
:Building sysvinit-sparc-cross_2.76-3_all.deb
:Building libc6-sparc-cross_2.0.105-2_all.deb
:Building dpkg-sparc-cross_1.4.0.34_all.deb
:dpkg-cross: package mount doesn't provide any useful files. Skipping.
This looks funny
:Building ldso-sparc-cross_1.9.10-1_all.deb
:Unpacking sysvinit-sparc-cross
:Unpacking libc6-sparc-cross
:Unpacking dpkg-sparc-cross
:Unpacking ldso-sparc-cross
:dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of sysvinit-sparc-cross:
: sysvinit-sparc-cross depends on mount-sparc-cross (= 2.7l-1); however:
: Package mount-sparc-cross is not installed.
:dpkg: error processing sysvinit-sparc-cross (--install):
: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
:dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6-sparc-cross:
: libc6-sparc-cross depends on sysvinit-sparc-cross (= 2.76-1); however:
: Package sysvinit-sparc-cross is not configured yet.
:dpkg: error processing libc6-sparc-cross (--install):
: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
:dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of dpkg-sparc-cross:
: dpkg-sparc-cross depends on libc6-sparc-cross (= 2.0.99); however:
: Package libc6-sparc-cross is not configured yet.
: dpkg-sparc-cross depends on libncurses4-sparc-cross; however:
: Package libncurses4-sparc-cross is not installed.
: dpkg-sparc-cross depends on libstdc++2.9-sparc-cross; however:
: Package libstdc++2.9-sparc-cross is not installed.
:dpkg: error processing dpkg-sparc-cross (--install):
: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
:Setting up ldso-sparc-cross (1.9.10-1) ...
:Errors were encountered while processing:
: sysvinit-sparc-cross
: libc6-sparc-cross
: dpkg-sparc-cross
:dpkg -i failed.
All the Sparc packages were moved using dpkg-move running on the Sparc.
I am doing this the right way?
-- Ferret no baka
Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 09:37:00AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: brought it up. And the FTP archive doesn't have a source package) :# dpkg-cross --install sysvinit_2.76-3.deb libc6_2.0.105-2.deb \ dpkg_1.4.0.34.deb mount_2.9g-6.deb ldso_1.9.10-1.deb :Building sysvinit-sparc-cross_2.76-3_all.deb :Building libc6-sparc-cross_2.0.105-2_all.deb :Building dpkg-sparc-cross_1.4.0.34_all.deb :dpkg-cross: package mount doesn't provide any useful files. Skipping. 1) Do this on the cross-compile system (ie. the i386) 2) You only need libraries and -dev packages. So init, and mount are somewhat irrelevant to compilation :(i386)# dpkg-cross --install libc6_2.0.105-2.deb :Building libc6-sparc-cross_2.0.105-2_all.deb :Unpacking libc6-sparc-cross :dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6-sparc-cross: : libc6-sparc-cross depends on sysvinit-sparc-cross (= 2.76-1); however: : Package sysvinit-sparc-cross is not configured yet. :dpkg: error processing libc6-sparc-cross (--install): : dependency problems - leaving unconfigured :Errors were encountered while processing: : libc6-sparc-cross :dpkg -i failed. -- Ferret no baka
Re: Debian SPARC
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 12:08:00PM -0900, Christopher S. Swingley wrote: Hello! I have a Sun Ultra-10 with an UltraSPARC-IIi (300 MHz) processor that is currently running Solaris 2.5.1. It is my web, anonymous ftp and email server. Solaris 2.5.1 has Y2K issues and I was thinking about upgrading to Debian since I'm more familiar with Linux than Solaris. I know I've got a lot of work ahead of me if I want to do this, so I'd like some opinions from those of you using Debian on an Ultra-SPARC machine. * Is this a good idea? * What things might I be missing that were either in Solaris, or in Debian-i386? * Comments on Debian-Sparc? I'm currently running Debian on an UltraSPARC 5 (UltraSPARC IIi cpu aswell). Basically the system is almost exactly the same as the i386 port, even the install is the same (except you have different options for the install media, such as tftp images). Some things to make sure of: 1) Use the 2.2.1-sun4u boot images in the slink distribution 2) Immediately upgrade to potato, and the 2.2.13-sun4u kernel image IMO, slink is less stable than the current potato distribution, for sparc. I'm running a hybrid slink/potato system on a Sparc IPX right now. yes, slink is in general less stable/less working than potato. OTOH, potato and 2.2.13 will not run at all on my system, probably because I use a serial console. -- Ferret no baka
Cross-compiling on Debian systems?
I'd like to set up a cross-compiler on my Lintel (AMD 266) to compile packages for my Sparc IPX. I'd preferably like to package the cross-compiler so I can esaily remove it if I no longer need it. The only cross-compiler in the slink packages list is for m68k. What do I need to do to set one up? -- Ferret no baka
keyboard request not working in Potato?
Does anyone else have this problem? I have a kbrequest line in /etc/inittab, and the default kmap has alt-uparrow bound to KeyboardSignal I'm using kbd 0.99-5, console-data 1999.08.29-?(in the middle of upgrading) Any ideas? It worked just fine before I updated to Potato. -- Ferret no baka
